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Stick To The Vision Plan Feat. Special Guest Rodney H. Dixon #Podcast #Vision #Leadership

June 21, 2021 John Lebrun & La'Fayette Lane Season 3 Episode 43
UnScripted: Authentic Leadership Podcast
Stick To The Vision Plan Feat. Special Guest Rodney H. Dixon #Podcast #Vision #Leadership
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🚨 In this episode, John and La'Fayette are joined by special guest Rodney H. Dixon, solar energy guru, international business consultant, and Author of the new book 'The Making of Atoma Merc: Fighting the Ghost of White Supremacy.  John, La'Fayette, and Rodney have a discussion about sticking to the vision plan! Without a vision or plan, you will go through life wandering aimlessly. Many of us have asked the question,  "what is the plan for my life?" We search for the answer to this question from people, places and even things. The answer to this question won't be found in people, places or things but rather the answer lies within every one of us. The plan for your life can be determined by who you are at your core! Hit that PLAY and SHARE button to hear more of this amazing conversation on how to stick with the vision plan!

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Welcome to the Unscripted Authentic Leadership podcast. A podcast where are seeking to lead change and also seeking to understand. We're also here to provide a platform for leaders to unite, to come together, to unite, to develop and empower other leaders in the areas of business, family, faith and community. I'm your host, Lafayette Lane, joined by my co-host, John LeBrun. Today, we are joined by special guest Rodney Dixon to have a conversation about sticking to the vision plan. Those of you that will watch and listen to this, you can put those virtual hands, put those comments in the comments section, the clapping emojis there for our special guest as again, we talk about this incredible conversation of sticking to the vision plan. Those of you that are visionaries, you don't want to miss what's getting ready to take place in this awesome, engaging conversation. Just before we get into it, though, we definitely want to say thank you to all of our unscripted, authentic leadership podcast family. Those of you that are part of our YouTube channel, they're unscripted, authentic leadership. Those are part of our various social media platforms, whether it be Facebook, unscripted, authentic leadership, our Instagram family that our followers there at unscripted leadership are part of our LinkedIn family, unscripted, authentic leadership. And those of those of you that do not watch the podcast. But you are part of our listening audience that can listen to all to our podcast and the various streaming platforms. We're really anywhere podcast can be sharing from Apple to Spotify, Google podcasts. I already own Stitcher and we want you to check us out, connect with us, engage with us, even on our website there, unscripted national leadership dot com. We've got some new merch available there for you when you sign up for our unscripted club email group, those email those that are in the email group will get special previews, get some insights and some information. Lots of things that we have brewing, some things down the road. Again, you'll receive a merch 10 percent off merch call when you sign up for our unscripted email group club. Let's get to the conversation. We definitely want to read Rodney Feel right at home. He's our special guest today, as again, we have special guest Rodney Dixon, who is the author of his new book, The Making of a Time of Work Fighting the Ghost of White Supremacy. He is also a solar energy guru and serves as a business consultant to prominent members of the Arab world, including but not limited to members of royal families. He's also an ancestor to Ramses the third and Egyptian ancient Egyptian pharaoh. Irradiates Dixon is a very interesting gentleman already as we've read that file. And I'm going to allow him to just tell us where he's from a little bit more about himself at this time, Rodney. Zygon, gentlemen, glad to be on your show. Much appreciated. So my background, I'm actually born in Brooklyn, New York, and I consider to be bi coastal because I was raised in both Brooklyn, New York and in Pomona, California. And I went back and forth. One parent lived in New York, the other parent lived in Southern California. So as a basketball guy, I learned how to play on both sides of the pond. And and that elevated my game because of it. And from there, I've been kind of a little bit of everywhere, which I'm sure we'll get into. Different business endeavors have taken me to different places, but those are the main two. Absolutely. That's interesting. I like the analogy that you use for the West Coast to the East Coast. Very good. That is excellent. I think that it opens up right into our topic today when it talks about vision, because literally you've seen a variety of places because of the scenery's that you've been a part of. And that's what we want to talk about, this whole idea of sticking to a vision plan. A lot of people have a vision plan or vision board. They have aspirations, but we want to put emphasis on the part of sticking to it. We've all been in that place where we started the New Year with New Year's resolutions and had many things that we wanted to accomplish and got two to three months down the road. Really, we haven't been consistent with those visions and those things that we wanted to do. But having such a visionary and a leader has yourself on the podcast today. I want you to start us off, Ronnie. Tell us about your vision plan and how you were able to stick through that and have consistency in the vision that you have for yourself in your life before. A very good point. Very good question. So it's it's two different ways you can see how to go about following a plan. So there's different folks who write, they write it out and they put it on their wall. And so every day, every morning, they're looking at that on the wall. And so they can stay focused on that particular thing every single day. And there's the Accademia approach. None of that's my approach. So my approach is more of a holistic approach. It's a religious approach. So for me, it's all about getting a conviction, finding what which is what I do in business and everything else that I do, finding the reason behind it rather than just the the outward goal. I don't know the reason behind it. To me, that's where people start falling short of the goal, because then if it has to be something that you have to remember, if you have to go look at something on a wall, then it's not inside is outside. You always got to find outside motivations or there's too many things that go on with a human being internally, whether it be emotions, things that trip you up in your life. And so if it's only an external motivation, as soon as something hits you internally, you're going to miss that. That's when you're going to fall off. So that's what happens with what you were talking about with those New Year's resolutions. Right. Let's say there's an emotional imbalance and you set these these these goals to work out every day, but you didn't necessarily learn how to combat and overcome that emotional thing that kind of throws you up or the minute that that it hits you, there goes the game plan. Right. And that's usually what throw people off is not the desire they desire to have the motivation there until something hits. And that's when something hit. You don't have that to draw from you. So you need a conviction. You need an internal conviction that an outside source of power. Wow. That's that's a weighty word. That word you talked about conviction and finding the reason. That's one of the things that we emphasize here on the podcast. Many times we talked about having that internal drive, having that reason, as you talked about, whatever that is. And I believe you were alluding to faith, but it could be a variety of things. Whatever is in that core of you is like that apple. You see the apple that's good on the outside, but the root of the apple is the core of the apple. Talk to us about a little bit more about your business, man. You're a leader and we're talking about the vision plan. Talk a little more about the core of who you are. So is that the core of who I am is by faith, is faith led by faith, right? Man of God. And so everything has to have a rhyme and a reason. To what that objective is, and because of that, the plan is the poor, because the plant is the core, right, which is the conviction, then when things become when things start to seem like they're being altered, you already know that all things work out for those who love the law. So as a result, is always going to come back to your center anyway. And so people have seen me involved with so many different things in my life. Right. And then they're like, OK, it's kind of disjointed or whatever. And then all of a sudden they see where, oh, wow, everything came together. It was like, well, yeah, because I'm following the conviction. I'm not necessarily following a beaten path that someone might have drawn up if I follow the conviction. Right. Is going to take me to that center anyway. So you got to have that conviction focused on that. Everything else from need a. Would you say that basically it's similar to saying that when you say your your plan is is the core basically saying that that's that's your calling is essentially what you're trying to say. The plan is what you get called when you when you follow a calling. All you know is that you are called. Yeah. And you know who called you at nine times out of ten. You will know where they called you from. Right. So that's just like a phone call, right? Usually if frantically calls you like I got a friend who drives trucks every time he calls me, one of my first questions that I ask him is, where are you now? The reality is where he is is irrelevant to the call. Right. The bottom line is that he called me, but my curiosity and and caring about my friend is where are you right now? Is if you look at, let's say, the biblical perspective, that's what God did. Adam blew it in the garden. God looking around from him, he's high. And he's like, where are you? So where are you? Is out of concern. So that's where it is. So, yes, the calling could get caught up in the calling. So all I really want to know is who's making the call. Right. And so in that case, as long as I know who's making the call, then it's not on me. It's not on the person making the call. Right. So if the caller is the one who made the plan. It's not my plan anyway. You I want to plan a plan that's not mine, right? The scripture says man makes playing God. Laughs So I just got to stick to his plan. So then what's the key? What's his plan? Well, that he's driving a ship. That's the plan. So then if he's driving the ship, he's given me talents. Talents will drive me to where he wants me to be. And as long as I follow him, that's where the water comes in. Everything else comes from him. So there's no such thing as quote. It was like when I studied out business plans, right when I was first when I first got into the feasibility studies and business plans. Nothing in a business plan that I read that I can't find that principle in the word thing. So if I stay on the higher focus, who's making the call? Everything else comes together. He's the God of all categories, all careers. So I go to the bigger picture. Smaller papers become easier. Now they're specific. I can do specific breakdowns, as I'm sure we're going to do in this particular call. But since you're asking me about where my core is, right, that's the core, the core of a person's body. The hands got to go where the core goes. The legs have to go where the core goes. The it's got to go where the core goes. Right. Basketball playing depends on the guy I'm watching for sure, sure, yeah, I love what you said about when we have these plans. Everybody wants to do it. A, B, C, D, E, F, g. So if this is not if I don't have a child by thirty five, you know, my time clock is up. If I haven't made this certain amount of money by this age, then my life is is in complete shambles and my life is over. But what you said is that if you find your core, if you find your purpose, if you find what you are meant to do, you'll find your plan. And ultimately, whatever you believe about your faith, whatever it is, it's really not in your control or in your hands in the first place. And so I think that was very powerful. Those are that that will listen to this. Don't get so caught up in. I'm not at this particular stage. I see others at the same age that I'm in in life. So I don't think that God has a plan for me or I can't stick to the vision. I can't execute the plan. It's all about finding your core. Whatever age you are, it's never too late to do that. I think it's interesting that you are a international business consultant in solar professional. I don't know what that is, but I would like for you to explain to us. I know I know what a business consultant is. But as far as the solar professional, how did you in your plan of life, how did you end up in that arena of of work and expertize? And can you explain to our audience what your vision is in that particular area of solar energy and being a solar professional? Well, so beautiful question again, and it fits right into the narrative of what we're saying. When I first started looking at solar, it was when I first entered the music industry, so just to show you how things work, I'm in the music industry and at the time, gospel music wasn't really very fun. It is now a nonprofit. So I'm going, OK. I like funky music. Right. So this is not going to get it. But at the same time, the music industry that was wonky was crazy. The themes were crazy, right? Singing about doing about anything. So I'm sitting here between the two and I said, well, how can I be funky? And it not be crazy. All right, so I started coming up with solar energy themes. This was before there was any solar energy running around. So I found a way to basically because solar is light. So my light energy, light versus dark, the night time, the fossil fuels in the dark, etc.. So I was able to basically create characters and things like that that would have this light versus dark and put it in the solar energy space and yet fulfill the narrative that I wanted, which was to make sure that I was on the right side of the thing. I had no idea that it was going to lead into what it led to, but then as time goes on, I started getting deeper and deeper into that, learning more about how energy works. Then I was dealing with some guys from the Arab world and oil and gas. So I found out how that works. I got into an energy coal, hydrogen on demand. So by the time I actually had the solar industry, because the industry didn't really hit intellect. Twenty five, I had already been 20 years and mastering the concepts regarding solar and it didn't exist as an industry. So by the time the industry hit and I entered it, I became the top seller in the country with solar energy because I knew everything about it before it really hit MOUT. If I rewind it back like I do now, I know for sure that was God the whole time. So that's where he has this whole thing. And if you follow in one corner and I said back in the beginning, I got to make this money. And I got to make it now because I can't be waiting too late. I don't want to be too late to capitalize et had I taken that analogy, I wouldn't have written that. I would have been writing the crazy music at that point. I probably never would have matched up to the destiny. What I heard and what you just said was something I think that is very important, especially in the age that we live in. You were unwilling to compromise, even if compromise at the moment seemed that it would benefit you. You stuck to the core of who you were, not knowing that in the future God was going to take care of you anyways. But you had a decision to make and it all wraps up into that vision in that core that I am not going to compromise in this moment. And so you were able to draw that that paradigm between the light and the darkness. And here you have the solar professional solar energy, which was really not even in your wheelhouse, but it was birthed out of your core. That that is that is exactly right. That's exactly right. And the and the not compromising wasn't easy. Sure. But I ended up broke for what. Right. And then there's temptation like, well, you a community song to put some money in your pocket. You know, I just couldn't do it. So as a result, I kind of knew. And then that's when we started talking to me back then, like, you got to look kind of, you know, goofy for a while because I had abandoned basketball as a top basketball player in California and in New York. So I abandoned basketball for this music career. And then when I got to the music scene, it was crazier than I thought it was. Now it's like, oh, shoot, what am I going to do? And I decided to, like you said, stick to the guns. But the guy I was working with was Prince at the time. I had to say to myself, well, I know what I'll do to to kind of control it and manipulate it. I'm going to convert him. That is all good. We're going to make it work. He was like on a long time to try to get on that page. So in the meantime, we were doing like this, clashing heads and it wasn't going. He wasn't yielding and I wasn't yielding. So it was one of these for a long time. And I was the one ended up broken as a result. But then it all works out pretty good, right? Absolutely. So many times and I've seen this with me and everybody, we since we don't see the big picture ourselves all the time, we think that we're behind because we think our life is supposed to look like someone else's life currently looks like. Right. I always say don't compare your beginning to someone else's end. And so people always look at or even someone who has a jumpstart. I remember getting out of college and losing my job right away and working at a warehouse. So all your buddies have like engineer jobs. They look like they're doing great, buying a house, buying fancy cars, mine's a beater, all those things. And then but then at the same time as you can relate, because you've you've made multiple pivots, you're like, I just don't think that's my direction. And so your direction. Well, to everybody else, it looks like what is he doing like just go use your degree or go go over there and make some more money, like we're all but we all got a house and new cars. You have an apartment and your car sucks. What are you doing? And what will still be your friend, but whatever. And then you keep making your steps. And then when they get to be their mid thirties, pushing forties, their life is one boring. Two, they're not happy with their career, but they stick with it because they don't know what else to do. Income quickly slows. Everybody OK, when your buddies become engineers or stuff and whatever they are, it looks like they're doing great. But income eventually slows down real quick as they get older. And then that's when you start to accelerate, because now you've been walking in what you've loved and what you know you're supposed to do, and then now you're getting good at it. And as you said, you're an industry expert, but you didn't know you're going to be an industry expert 20 years ago. Right. Just walking in day, you're supposed to do a guy can always catch you up and his plan will always catch up and surpass what you think you are supposed to be or what you think you know when you think you're behind, as long as you follow that plan. So I love that story. I think so many people can relate, especially the listeners who are like young entrepreneurs or I'm I'm young. I'm thirty almost thirty eight. So I'm not that young, but I'm young, you know, pushing 40. But you can always catch up every listen to this story. It's amazing. So I really appreciate that analogy because I think so many people can relate to having a goal, having a dream and feeling like they are just always a few steps behind everybody else because everybody else has everybody else has more vacation time, as they call it. Everybody else watches more shows on Netflix at night and stuff like that. The reality is like there's no fun in watching Netflix. I'm just saying, like I mean, I'm sure it's fine every now and then. I'll watch the show sometimes to my wife. But who wants to spend every night doing that? Like, how boring is I've been around people. With extreme levels of money, yeah, and. I haven't met too many people with extreme levels of money that aren't kind of I wouldn't say they're all miserable, but they're not very happy. And in a lot of them have serious depression issues because. They've acquired money young. And when they got it, they realized that there wasn't anything other, there wasn't anything else, it's like you can only buy so many things right. I'm running around in Arabia. They try to give me their hand me the credit card so I won't go home. I'm sitting there going, man, drive me. I mean, drive me to the mall, you know, that their family owns. Park in the parking lot. And stay here, don't go, don't go, here's my credit card, go in there and buy anything you want. And I'm in the car doing like this, like, don't hand me the credit card, but one, I don't need your credit card for two, and I've told them there is absolutely nothing in that mall that exists. That can make me stay another day. I will be back. When it's time for me to come back, but I'm just not a guy you can buy. Because money has very little to do with. Where you're trying to hit. Money is there to buy something, pay for something that's really all money can do, it can build something right. But money has limitations and when these guys get a little money, some of them have more money than they have innovation inside that. It makes you frustrated because you don't know what to do with the money, right? You don't know what the what the build. You don't know you bought everything. You have everything. And so there's only so much you can buy. It's like when I say I go, well, there's only so much food you can eat, right. Much food you can eat. I don't care if you if you have one hundred billion in your stomach can only take in so much. So you've got to max out no matter what. Now you can just buy a bigger and bigger and bigger house, more and more and more things. That's why you have people with lots of money now looking for philanthropic things they can get into and they work harder now than they did as a CEO to make the money . And so you should be always working. But when you get people going, oh, I need to make all this money so I can retire, do nothing, I go. At that point, you might as well be dead. Do you know this is a man of our vision shall perish. So. Yeah, definitely so when you're spending all this time with people filthy, wealthy and miserable. How about the opposite, anybody? Well, half opposite, anybody who is very wealthy and still excited about life and moving forward. I have never met that person. OK, I'm just trying to make people aware. They're all amped out when I show up. Yeah, right, because now they couldn't do Rodney, the cool guy showed up, right? So, yeah, now it's not the money I've upset in cars where guys are offering them ridiculous levels of money. They're trying to hand me the phone. Tom, can I get on the phone? Hey, we're offering the guy this much money. You've got a 50 million dollar for a real estate deal. And I'm looking at my buddies over here. I don't have time for that. Right. They just don't care because they've seen it all day long. So you can't have this conversation in the Arab world. Money's not going to make any of those dudes jump. I don't care how much you're talking, you can say 50 billion dollars, 100 billion dollars if they go to sleep. Right. They just don't care. So money doesn't really motivate them. So, yes, I've seen guys not too fired up about things. They might be fired up in the moment because they're doing a deal in the moment. But then soon as they get the money, another another barrel of dough. Right now, to put things in context for the listener, which I don't think listeners know and correct me if I'm wrong, seriously, but I'm pretty sure a lot of the incredibly wealthy families, some of the Arabian nations have acquired, they come into that wealth because of natural resources and so forth. Right. Isn't the oil and so forth. Basically, it was given to the family. The family somehow came into it and they are basically forever wealthy. They probably aren't even doing anything to create that right now. They're just part of the family. That sounds about right. It's about right. And here's the deal on that. Yeah. And then everybody else is dirt poor. Yes, but wealth is relative. Yeah. So a lot of these families were Merchant Bettmann family's merchant families for thousand years. Two thousand years. Right. So one thing about that part of the world is they're connected to that ancestry throughout generation after generation after generation, different than America, especially for African-Americans. So over there, they're really connected like that. So although they hit oil and they hit mega wealth. They were still, relative to their society, wealthy the whole time, they just weren't wealthy compared to the big boys in the oil and gas game or whatever, and now they're wealthy on that side. But a lot of the families are in control of the role of the royal families of the ruling. Families were in control anyway. So that's why I say wealth is relative. They were already wealthy and now they have this mega wealth. And so they start acquiring things. But a lot of it they like to do. They like to do business ventures or build and they want to build up their societies and they have large developments or whatever the case may be. And now they're trying to establish where other people around the world will feel safe in those types of places and come and visit those type of places. So that's a new thing. That's that's a lack of wealth right there. Right. If you have a bunch of money, but people aren't wanting to come hang out with you and hang out in your environment. You know what I mean, that's you know, that's a whole nother animal. Sure. So, Ronnie, you are a multifaceted guy. You are a solo pro. You're an international business consultant, but you're also an author, wants you to talk about your book, Men. I'm interested to hear what the motivation, what the message is behind the book. The title of the book is The Making of a Time of Work and pronouncing that correctly, finding the ghost of White Supremacy . What is the book about? What was your intention and what's your goal, your vision when you wrote the book, the what's the message behind it. So as a tool, no TOMO or go, go. Let some people do pronounce it a term America. But is it because it derives from the concept of an atom at all? So when I explained this, a lot of people aren't aware what I'm saying. They will know more and more as they read the book. But there's a there's a DNA group called Haplogroup A. Haplogroup A is the DNA that comes out of Africa, basically referring to like the first man that ended up being the man that everybody is deriving from. And so that's called a haplogroup AIDS out of Africa. So you've got Adam, which is the core nucleus of cells that make up a person and planets, et cetera. And so this is a basically a universal character. So Atama is a character that I created. He's a solar superhero and his makeup is derived from these atoms. But he's also from haplogroup A the first beginning mankind, which are African-American. So what happens if you have a tumor? And then mother was my nickname. It was short for mercury, for speed and size, et cetera. And I'm the author. So combined is a tumor. Mirch now, the character was first featured in on a cover of a CD I created, which was a solo CD back in nineteen ninety, one of the best of seven. But you can hear on ReverbNation today where I'm talking about solar energy, distribution of solar, marketing of solar and all these solar concepts. Back in nineteen ninety one, of course the Clean Air Act didn't happen until 2005. So when I was singing about all this stuff and creating all this stuff with the solar superhero, my friends over in Minneapolis in the music scene, and it was like, what in the world are you talking about? Of course, years later they're like, Oh, shoot, he knew what he was talking about. So the book goes into all of it. The book is going to where he comes from. That's why it's called The Making of the Atomic Bomb. So it's going into all of that is talking about being a black kid raised up in the African-American world and how back when I was a kid, the stereotypes which still exist , but they were really heavy then, the stereotypes about who you should be, what you should be. And here my dad is a scientist, biochemist. So we were learning about water, power and electricity and things like that as kids. It just wasn't the norm in our community. That's what this book is all about. It's removing those stereotypes to show, hey, this is the making of it and you don't have to fall into stereotypes. Absolutely. I love that. Especially coming off the heels of Juneteenth and the progress that we have made, but we still do have a long way to go. I did have a question for you that you posed. You talked about black people creating a subculture in America. What do you what do you mean by that? So going back to slavery, the basic. Ideals of society, of culture, the things that nonblacks could do, particularly white. Have land till the land gain profits from it, you know, sell it to a market wholesale in and they sell it to the marketplace, retail, all of that, while as a slave, you were a product. Right, you are property, right? Personal property, just like an orange or an apple or anything else that was traded. So as a result, the banking, real estate, housing, all the things where that was just normal in society, the slaves couldn't participate. So the. It's slavery, black Africans come in in America. I can't even call them African-Americans at the time because they weren't American citizens had to develop a culture to exist because you couldn't do any of those things. So by the time freedom hit right after the masturbation proclamation and some years later and now you mentioned Juneteenth right at the time that came about, then there was a good number of people who thought that if you are black and you started to endeavor into those types of things, you were quote unquote being white or want to be white. So the association with what was normal, everyday business, world capitalization was looked at as being white because for the longest blacks didn't participate in it. So the culture of black people was under it was under this normal civilization that some blacks said you got to keep it real and it was keeping it real to a subculture. Right. So you got to understand that that was the mindset. That was the thinking. And now just participating in what's normal is not white is just everybody now can participate in it. I think that is that is great, because as I look around our community, a lot of us still have that mindset. We see somebody that's going to college or someone that talks proper, quote unquote. Then it's deemed as, oh, you're talking white or you're acting white. No, I'm just being the core of who created to be. And so I think that's great, because no matter where you come from, no matter if anybody in your family has never got a degree or went to college on this platform, we believe that you can rise above any circumstance. You can rise above any of the stereotypes, as you talked about, because ultimately God has all given us a vision and a plan on the inside of us of the core of our being to be the best that we can be. And that is above, not beneath. Rodney, is there anything else that you want it to leave? Are unscripted, authentic leadership, family. If you were to give us your last words, what would you leave with the unscripted family as we wrap up? Well, I mean, just that you have to follow God's plan for you, your life, and then I have people ask me all the time, well, how do I figure that out? It's going to be based on your talents now, the key is you might not necessarily know all of your talents. So there's talent inside of you that must be discovered. And those talents can be what's going to get you to that destination that God has acquired for you that set up for you. For example, when my friend gave me the first business plan I've ever seen and I asked him to do one for me, he wouldn't. He was my mentor. He handed it to me and I read it and he said I said, why don't you do it for me? Because you would never learn how to do it. So when I did it, as I was reading it, it was like reading the comic book. It was that simple to me. But I had never seen one in my life. So it was what was inside of me. So I say, if you're going to try to get to where God wants you to be or you want to be, then you can't be afraid to endeavor in the areas that you've never done before . Just that's how you're going to find out what you have. That's why you see me doing so many things a society wants you to be good at. Only one thing. I actually have five talents and gossip. He gives you five. Go bring back five more in society. Only wants you to find your talent if it fits within a specific definition, like when you're a senior west, you go to college for stuff. It's not on the college curriculum. It's probably not. Your talent is essentially how I feel is gone through school. I was literally got to ask you, what do you say if somebody doesn't know how to find your talents? But I think you just answered that with dry stuff, like literally just going to be adventurous and try stuff. And that's that was my exact feeling. You just worded it way better than I would have ever done. So, yeah, everybody out there is going to try stuff. You just just do it. I don't do anything for anybody that they can't do for themselves. Doesn't mean you won't help them. It just means that they got to give it the first shot, get into anything and everything positive, if it's positive to jump in it and then see how if like I'm not I'm not the most gifted at putting stuff together. So I'm not my challenge is not building the building. I'm not the tech guy, but I've created innovative concepts using tech people and understanding how it should work where techs couldn't figure it out. So that's so good. I know I said we were wrapping up, but you just said something that just keep going. You said in the area that you weren't necessarily strong again, but you surround yourself with people that you you were deficient in that area, but you surround yourself with people that were strong or weak. That's correct. But they didn't have vision exactly this vision. I could figure out what that tech should do. Good a new tech, but they didn't have any vision, so they only did what they were shown before. I made tech do something they never thought about. And when they got the tech guy told me, I said, you know, we could do all types of things, but nobody ever came up with the concept you came up with. So. That's how Apple started, nobody thought of touchscreen iPads when we first saw the phones are like, where's the buttons? I need buttons to take with my BlackBerry because it has buttons for 40 board, though. And Steve Jobs said, yeah, we'll see. Anyway, I have a BlackBerry phone anymore. Why not as good. So so what you're saying is that when you walk in your purpose, when you walk in the core, when people are around you, it'll spark the innovation and the creativity in them that they need to know they had because you decided to walk in who you were supposed to be. That's correct. That's amazing. Listen, those of you who don't watch and listen to this, we don't want you to just listen to what Romney has to say on here, but we want you to go out and purchase that book, the making of a tome of Merck, the fighting , the ghost of white supremacy that is available now on Amazon.com and it's also available on Barnes & Noble. You also could connect with rottenly on social media, on LinkedIn. You can find him there. Rodney Dixon, we've mentioned how he is a solo pro. He offers some constant consultations in California and also in the area of North Carolina, something that you are in need of. Excellent, excellent professional. And let me say this as a black man to another black man, proud black man, a black professional, making it happen, going against the stereotypes, improving the overall persona that we are not minorities, we are the majority, and we are making great happen and we're doing it every day. This has been another amazing episode here on the Unscripted Authentic Leadership Podcast has again, we say thank you to our special guest, Rodney Dixon, for the incredible, incredible wisdom and gems that you dropped on this episode. Again, we want you to continue to follow Unscripted Authentic Leadership podcast on our YouTube channel and our various social media platforms. Stream our podcast. Wherever you can find your podcasts, connect with us on our website, unscripted -leadership.com, where you can sign up for our unscripted club email group or receive that much call. And again, follow Rodney Dixon there on his LinkedIn page, get his book, connect with him as he is a solo pro.. There, we thank you and we pray that you'll be the leader that God has called you to be. As always, we're here to build bridges and not walls. Bridges connect and walls divide. Until next time, God bless you.