From Solar Eclipses to Baseball Frenzy, Courtside Controversies and NFL Draft Excitement: An Energized Look at the World of Sports

Today's conversation swings from the mundane to the magnificent as we explore the excitement surrounding a breathtaking solar eclipse and dive head-first into the fever of baseball season. We'll navigate the twists and turns of the Oakland Athletics' possible relocation saga, and serve up our hot takes on the teams that are swinging for the fences in the MLB standings.

Now, let's lace up for some courtside controversy. The Iowa-UConn women's basketball game has sparked a firestorm over a foul call that left fans and experts divided – and we're breaking it down. As we dissect the pivotal plays and pivotal decisions, we also celebrate the sheer talent on display at the women's Final Four, and the triumphs of a perfect season. Feel the camaraderie as we delve into the narratives that have us all glued to our screens and cheering on the heroics on hardwood.

Finally, attention all gridiron aficionados, the NFL draft is upon us and with it, a fresh class of football gladiators gearing up to make their mark. We'll analyze Michigan's quarterback conundrum and the chess moves of teams like Denver, Minnesota, and Oakland as they eye the future of the franchise. Then, we step into the ring of debate over the sports world's most polarizing figures,

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Speaker 1: 0:50

Showtime. Welcome back to the all-purpose pod for an all-purpose life, wherever you are and however, you're here and they call me Mr U the podcast. Thank you again for joining us this morning. We appreciate you so much. We are Weekly Marriage check. Before you change the world, baby. Good morning Herb Raj Bo in the house this morning.

Speaker 2: 1:08

How you guys feeling good, my man, how about you?

Speaker 1: 1:12

good, good, you got your Joe. You know it. Cheers, that's a big cup. Today y'all ain't even playing, yeah well.

Speaker 2: 1:23

I'm gonna drink this much anyway. This just keeps me from having to go back to the coffee pot.

Speaker 3: 1:27

There you go. Amateurs do do two different, there you go. I haven't moved on to the professional level yet.

Speaker 1: 1:38

Come on, man Step your game up, brother. This is, this is, this is, this is showtime.

Speaker 2: 1:42

Mostly my normal cups are sitting in the dishwasher and I was like I didn't run it, Don't you?

Speaker 3: 1:48

hate that moment when you realize I've got nothing clean.

Speaker 1: 1:51

Exactly.

Speaker 3: 1:52

My travel mug.

Speaker 2: 1:54

My travel mug was ready to rock.

Speaker 1: 1:56

All right, a little peek behind the curtain there. Huh, all right, I like it. Are you guys excited about this solely Eclipse deal? I'm going to be honest with you. It's one guys excited about this solely cliff deal? I'm gonna be honest with you. It's running non-stop on the weather channel, but I'm like I ain't buying no glasses and I'm not doing nothing different on my monday night. I'm I'm gonna be watching a yukon and, uh, I don't remember what he played yukon and purdue, I'm not gonna be, how about you guys?

Speaker 1: 2:18

you guys into this thing, or what?

Speaker 2: 2:20

well, I mean, the eclipse is going to be before the game anyway. But for me in Seattle the path doesn't really hit us. So you know, the path is from Texas through New York, it's taking an angle through the US. So here in Seattle we're going to see. You know a partial at best, and so you know nothing too cool. When it is close, that's when I grab my camera gear and I'll drive. When it is close, that's when I grab my camera gear and I'll drive to where it is.

Speaker 1: 2:49

I keep forgetting who I'm talking to. I asked that question and I realized who I was talking to. If you can see this, people will drive there. Your sunset chase we know that about you already. Your rainbow chase as well. Let me show you why your rainbow chase as well.

Speaker 2: 3:06

Let me show you why.

Speaker 3: 3:07

Don't go chase waterfalls.

Speaker 1: 3:11

Yeah, he's going to chase waterfalls right now. Where is he going? This is like a live show. Where are you going? Where are you about to show?

Speaker 2: 3:21

me, I do a fair amount of photography, okay Okay.

Speaker 1: 3:24

So there's nothing humble braggers about any of photography? Okay, okay, so there's nothing humble braggers about any of that that you just did, okay.

Speaker 2: 3:30

No, no, no. But what I'm saying is I take a lot of pictures of things that I think are cool.

Speaker 1: 3:37

Can you do that with the eclipse, though? Can you get a good picture of the eclipse?

Speaker 2: 3:41

Yeah, you can. It depends on the lenses that you have.

Speaker 4: 3:43

Okay, okay.

Speaker 2: 3:44

Yeah, so should be clips. Yeah, you can, depends on the lenses that you have, okay, okay, yeah, so if you throw, uh, if you have, if you have a good, good lens and uh, you may have to throw a uh a filter on it so that uh not like a instagram filter but an actual screw-on filter for the lens I got you, I got you, I got you.

Speaker 1: 3:59

Yeah, I'm not doing any of that herb. How about you?

Speaker 3: 4:02

yeah, I don't care. I'm sorry to be into that category. It's a big deal for a lot. So I just choose to not like I won't be broadcasting. Hey, I don't care, Because I kind of don't like people do that, but I just won't be saying it you already did. Only because I was asked a direct question. And I didn't want to lie, you had to brought it up on the show. I mean, I'm looking at our breakdown. Our breakdown doesn't say eclipse.

Speaker 2: 4:29

I was unprepared for a lie, I mean it has to come to me, though I'm not flying around the country to make it happen.

Speaker 3: 4:39

Can you see the path going like this and then all of a sudden going up to bow? Hey, I wouldn't even be mad at it, except the problem Going like this and then all of a sudden going up to bow Wouldn't even be mad at it.

Speaker 2: 4:46

except the problem is here in the Northwest it's always cloudy.

Speaker 1: 4:50

So we miss them anyway. Yeah, I'm not into it, but it is cool. Good morning, chad. Thanks for joining us, brother, good to see you again. Yes, sir, Go, faithful man, glad to be in the house, brother.

Speaker 1: 5:01

All right, major League Baseball started March 28th. We hadn't gotten around to it until about now. But, man, a lot to talk about. We probably won't hit it all today, but the season's going. It feels like the season Well.

Speaker 1: 5:13

First off, I know that we've been already three series in already and it feels like all of the teams that were dead last year are walking and rolling in the shadow. I mean, that makes sense if you have the money. You know you got to spend and make some additions and whatnot, excluding the athletics. Most of the last place teams have done that. But we got some things that are kind of a little weird that we're hearing a lot about the athletics also moving to Las Vegas. We thought Maybe, yep, stopping through Sacramento first, wait Free to Las Vegas. We thought Maybe, yeah, stopping through Sacramento first, wait Free to Las Vegas.

Speaker 1: 5:50

What a cluster this is. I don't know if you guys are aware of the story, but this is just a hot mess. They making big plans to move out of Oakland Don't even have the stadium situation locked down yet. It might take a couple of years, so they're going to hang out in Sacramento rather than where they are. They're going to hang out in Sacramento Rather than where they are. They're going to hang out in Sacramento for who knows how long, until the Las Vegas deal is complete and the stadium is built. The fans in Oakland are probably losing their minds right now. What are your thoughts on this, guys? Real quick.

Speaker 3: 6:18

I think it's crazy the way it's all going down. Like if you're going to move out of your house and into and build a new house, like do you really want to go into a rental for two years? That doesn't even make sense. How do you build any kind of following, any kind of momentum for the next three years going to vegas? That doesn't make sense. And you decide to alienate your fans, who've done nothing wrong, you know, on the way out. So, um, and maybe my, my view of oakland's always been, I guess that they're not a money-spending franchise. I guess that's like where Moneyball and kind of stuff like that came from and that's more of an outside view. So you know, obviously if I'm wrong, I'm just wrong, but it just seems like the wrong way to go about all of this for a franchise like that. So I mean, is the move going to be worth it in three years after just alienating everybody for the whole time?

Speaker 2: 7:03

so I don't know I mean, on the plus side, that just means attendance can only go up, right, I mean, they only had like 13 000 people show up to the game. So I mean, at this point it really doesn't matter if you go to a rental, because the house that you own, uh, is haunted. Now, anywhere else is probably better, um, yeah, so I, I don't, I don't think it matters, it is a weird path. But I mean, at the end of the day, the the governor there, even said that at one point they should stay in Oakland. So the governor of Las Vegas said that, nice, they're trying to leave Oakland. Vegas doesn't seem completely sold on them and, uh, you know now they're gonna have to make another stop, but they've done everything they could to make this the worst situation possible and even if they did, you know, fall in line with your scenario and actually stayed.

Speaker 1: 8:19

I mean, what's actually going to really happen, as long as it's what it is. I mean their first night 13,522 people they came out. I don't know why they expected something. I guess Night two listen to the precipitous drop 3,837 people came on the second night after the first one. I don't know if they even won the first game, but the point is that it dropped that much, it dropped a lot.

Speaker 2: 8:46

Well, both of these days is always a bump to every team, of course, if they didn't stay.

Speaker 1: 8:50

What's going to happen, though? Those numbers are going to get better, not with that same ownership. That's kind of where people are having the problem. It's the ownership. It's not even you can't blame the players. The players are where they are because of the decisions made by management, so it's like this is a hot mess. It's like I don't see a good ending for this. What's the scenario worse?

Speaker 2: 9:11

Yeah, I mean, if you stay, you're still not going to get great attendance because the fan base knows you didn't want to be there. You did everything you could to leave and until that ownership changes, it's going to be the middle finger to that ownership group. It's just like no, I'm just not going.

Speaker 1: 9:29

There's always a chance that somebody can buy the athletes out from one of these guys. I mean somebody making an agreement, of course, because that area has a lot of stars that have been known to invest in sports franchises. I would love to see new ownership there. Those fans deserve a lot better man. I'll just kind of leave it right there. You guys got any closing thoughts on that one before we move on?

Speaker 2: 9:52

I don't know A lot of A's fans might become Padre fans.

Speaker 1: 9:57

Oh God, it's a short drive. I'm hoping for new management. That's my plan.

Speaker 2: 10:04

There's no indication that they're trying to sell the team.

Speaker 1: 10:07

I know, man, but with the backlash and stuff sometimes your plans have to change.

Speaker 2: 10:11

They don't actually need the fans in the stands the way baseball works. They need the good teams to be good because they pay the other teams. There's no incentive for one of these small market teams to blow a bunch of money and be super competitive. They get their money either way, whether people are in the stands or not, because they're getting the money from the TV contracts and the trickle-down effect from the better teams. I mean there's no true incentive unless you have an owner that wants to win. The Mariners have that same problem. We don't have ownership groups that are trying win. You don't believe that the mariners have that same problem? We don't have ownership groups that are trying to spend money and win so you don't believe the impact?

Speaker 1: 10:50

I mean from a mariner standpoint too. You're going to add this into from your insights. So you don't believe that, uh, fans continually don't show, show up for these games. It doesn't impact the tv deals.

Speaker 2: 11:01

That's what you're saying no, because the TV deals aren't centered around the A's Like if if you had the Yankees or the Red Sox or you know, the premier teams in the league that everybody wants to see doing something, um, then then the TV contracts start to have an issue. But when you have, you know, low attendance at an A's game, nobody cares. That doesn't matter. The A's haven, nobody cares, like that, that doesn't matter. The A's haven't been good since the early 90s, right when they had the uh, you know Jose Canseco and Mark.

Speaker 2: 11:32

McQuarrie brothers, yeah exactly so I mean like they haven't been good in in 30 plus years. So no, I mean it. It makes no impact because it's not like. It's not like. The stadium numbers that we're talking about right now are out of the norm. Like you can look back over the last few years, there's plenty of nights that were 3 000. So and if covid taught us anything, they really don't need fans in the stands. Ain't nobody able to go? Baseball still happen that's really depressing he's right.

Speaker 3: 12:05

So it's been that way. Was it florida, or who is it the one? Their two world series, and after every world series they tore the whole team down because they were like, yeah, we don't really need to continue these winning I mean florida, florida, florida did I think they did something like that.

Speaker 1: 12:18

Uh, they're not the only ones twice in a row, not in a row, twice after winning them. So oh, mama's in the house. Good morning Mom, always so thankful. Thank you for joining us again. Appreciate you so much. All right, let's move on, because I was starting to feel I'm feeling good about baseball, but that brought me down a little bit. Andrew Hernandez oh my God.

Speaker 2: 12:40

This is going to make you feel better.

Speaker 1: 12:43

Absolutely not. I'm wondering if I can hold this off until next week, I mean, unless this bagging on the guy is going to make you feel better, because that might. We need to unleash on this clown. You know what? Let's keep moving. We'll talk about him next week, all right?

Speaker 2: 13:01

I'll try and put a video together for next week. Then We'll get some of his highlights.

Speaker 1: 13:05

Oh yeah, you do all the good stuff he's done.

Speaker 2: 13:08

I mean, his show isn't long enough for that, but we'll pick a couple.

Speaker 1: 13:12

Please, sir, may I have some more? Angel Hernandez? Please, sir, you've got to be kidding me. Let's do it next week. It'll be fun, all right. So Iowa-UConn, we, iowa-uconn. We talked a little bit on Twitter and via text while this game was going on Purdue and UConn, but that's cool, oh, I'm talking about the ladies Iowa-South Carolina, then that's what I meant to say. No, no, no, the Iowa-UConn game with the ladies.

Speaker 3: 13:39

Oh, from two days ago, I was going to say the championship game was last night.

Speaker 1: 13:43

Yeah, I know, I know, but we didn't talk about it last week. I want to ask you about the call the foul call. It was a foul. That's your guy's opinion. It was a foul. You threw her. You feel the same way, I just didn't like the call.

Speaker 3: 14:03

It's like if you slow it down and go into it, you like the call. But I'm going to get to your other point. I don't think, like the game was rigged or, like you know, there was some agenda against it. I don't like that call at the end of the game. But I'm also not going to say that that call is what you know decided the whole game.

Speaker 3: 14:19

They're down one with the ball. So you know you still got to have a lot happen just to do that. Iowa's a great team. I think for the end result I definitely would have rather seen Iowa South Carolina. I think that's the end result that women's basketball deserved for the end of the year. It was like momentary outrage and then two minutes later I was like, eh, it's what it is.

Speaker 1: 14:49

There's two things on that. First off, twitter was saying that they was rigged. I I'm not saying but uh. The second thing is that you can't had a string of I don't know how many shots it was, but I probably counted about maybe seven or eight wide open looks that they had uh, not very well defdefensed, to be honest and they missed wide-open looks. So you're playing against the number one team. You get what you pay for with that one. So that foul, you call it what you want to. Whether you call it a foul or not, I mean, you can't miss that many shots in those late minutes.

Speaker 2: 15:20

That's the thing is they could have played better at any point in this game, especially when they had a lead, right that? So that's the thing is they could have played better at any point in this game, especially when they had a lead, right, that's going to be my point.

Speaker 2: 15:27

And so I mean, if you can't protect that lead, this game didn't come down to that shot. So what I'm what I'm sharing with you. Right, there is actually that play. So if you watch, that is a moving screen. She steps out to her left, elbow out, knee out, that is. That is a flat, or I mean a whistle. Every time like that, get that like that's, as the other angle didn't make it look so bad, but when you look straight on, you're like, oh yeah, like that, that's a foul.

Speaker 1: 15:56

Every time I'm with you on that one.

Speaker 3: 15:59

I think challenge is also like a lot of time left when that happens. So it's Bo's earlier point. Sorry I had to do this. Uconn had control of this game in the first half and then they let it slip right before the end of the first half they let Iowa close and then Iowa played a better third quarter and that's kind of where the game got away from it. But you're also talking about the number one seed versus number three seed. Iowa's supposed to be the better team.

Speaker 3: 16:23

So people saying rigged rigged is more as if the three seed beats the one seed or we got some other stuff going on. But if you're really going to say rigged and they were going to wait until nine seconds left and one play to help them win, like that's not rigged, that's the word Like. If that's how you're rigging games for me, like I don't want it, I need like the top three people in UConn fouling out in the third quarter. You know I need technical fouls on the coach. Like I need more than that. If you're going to say rig, no one wastes the nine seconds left in the game, you know, because what's the ref thinking? I got to find something here to call Like, come on.

Speaker 1: 16:54

Yeah, I think there's two different trains of thought on this one. What I'm hearing, like you all, of my Twitter timeline, at the very least. Second thought is what I'm hearing from Sue Bird, Diana Taurasi and some others, even LeBron James, about the inability is not the right word, but I guess not letting the referees kind of ignore that play in that moment because of the intensity of the moment and it being, you know, potential.

Speaker 2: 17:30

There's always the theory, especially with people that have played, is let the players make plays, right, that's what they always want. They don't want a ref determining the end of the game. That's what they always want. They don't want a ref determining the end of the game. That being said, if it's a blatant foul like if it's very obvious, right, because the angle I just showed you is the angle that one of the refs had like that, the original camera angle you're like, ah, that seemed kind of weak, which is whatever, like most people saw initially. And you're like, ah, that's kind of weak. You probably don't call that call in this scenario, right, closing seconds need a shot to tie it up or win. You know you don't really want to see a ref dictate the outcome of the game. But as soon as you look at that other camera angle, you're like, oh yeah, no, that was. I mean, that's a straight up moving screen. Like that was a definition of a moving screen. Like that was a definition of a moving screen. So that's, that should get a whistle. So that's not really. That's not really the ref determining a game.

Speaker 2: 18:33

Like it w it was a foul that was obvious enough that it should have been called. So I mean, I don't. I don't really hate on it and I generally am on the side of let the players make plays like in a football game. I I don't care if they're hand fighting going down the field. That's football to me, right, don't call pass interference on that. Uh, you know things like that. But in this case and the thing that was even, you know, kind of more hilarious about it is, she did that moving screen and she didn't even get the person open. She was trying to get open.

Speaker 1: 19:02

So I don't know if they would have got the shot off anyway on top of that, I mean because I think they just switched out really quick because her defender did go flying, but yeah, yeah, at least. At least in this case we can say that the referee was consistent, because I forgot how many minutes it was, or maybe a minute or so. After this play, there was another was another one for the opposite team, for Iowa, and they got called for the same thing.

Speaker 2: 19:28

This was the last one.

Speaker 1: 19:30

This was the last one. This was the last one. It was the last one. It was the moment the Iowa fans were going crazy. I thought it was afterwards.

Speaker 3: 19:38

No, because after this they get fouled and they shoot free throws and it's a run. That's it, yeah.

Speaker 1: 19:43

Okay, hopefully I have some sound for the Byrne-Taurasi show that I was telling you about. Let's see if I can try to grab that for you guys. Let me know if you can hear it.

Speaker 4: 19:52

I believe I said it in different roles. That's a terrible call. You know we always talk about let the players decide the game, especially a benign call like that where you really didn't even affect the player I mean they still got over the screen um, it's just tough to end a game like that. I mean, sue and I we played enough games where you want players to decide it and you know we didn't get that tonight, which which was disappointing. But you know, beyond that, that was two really really good teams and two well-coached teams that knew what they wanted to do for 40 minutes. And you know, sometimes it comes down to players making great plays and Kaitlin just never shies away from that, and it's really impressive.

Speaker 1: 20:30

I want to lead into that because I want to ask you guys a question about Kaitlin Clark. We've been hearing a little bit about. You know her impact on the game. What's your thoughts on her impact on the sport of basketball itself? Just general thoughts, and then we move on to our next topic. What are you guys thinking about her?

Speaker 3: 20:44

I think she's been huge for the sport and I think she's come along at the right time where, like NIL, has put you in commercials too and the internet and everything. So it's kind of the combination of right time and great player. I think she's been great for the sport. There's been a lot more visibility in the sport and that's why I said having her in the national title game was kind of something that needed to happen, because she probably is your best star, so I think she's brought a lot more eyeballs to it. But the women's tournament had a lot of star power and I think people kind of noticed the other, like the Juju's and the Paige Buecher's of the as well. So I think I think the impact was great.

Speaker 2: 21:23

I watched more of the women's final four than I think I ever have, so easily, easily, you know, and and some of that is impacted by the fact that you don't have the one and done element on the women's side, so you actually get to like follow people the way you used to do with uh ufc right when you, when you, when the ufc started, they didn't have crazy amounts of stars, so you really kind of followed the path of the guys that were fighting.

Speaker 2: 21:48

And that's more or less what we have with women's basketball now, is you get to follow the story? Right, because these ladies are staying in school the entire time. When it comes to the men's, your best players are one and done. You don't have a story to follow at all. So that's why you were seeing the ratings were actually higher for the women's final four, because you had storylines to follow. You had Kaitlyn Clark, breaking records. You had Angel Reese that is the self-proclaimed villain right. You got Cardozo, which is just an absolute beast.

Speaker 3: 22:28

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:29

You know she's incredible. She's seven or something, right.

Speaker 1: 22:32

She's seven from Brazil. She was killed there.

Speaker 2: 22:34

Right, I mean. So there was a ton of star power around, really the Elite Eight and so it made it a lot more fun to watch than the men's so far now am I going to watch the championship game tonight, of course, but more because it's the championship game than like yeah, because you're not following anybody no, and to your point, roger and I talked about this I think last week or the week before and I'm sorry at work.

Speaker 3: 23:01

We were talking about this the women market stars and the men's market, the teams. So yeah, you're following UConn through there, but it's like until I really watched UConn up there, I couldn't name like two or three of their players, but I could name like the best players coming through on the women's game.

Speaker 2: 23:17

That's exactly because of one and done. You're not going to market a player who's not going to be there in six months.

Speaker 4: 23:23

Right.

Speaker 2: 23:24

I mean, why? Why would you waste the bandwidth on that? So, yeah, no, that's. That's exactly the thing. Is you? You're building storylines and, honestly, it's going to help the WNBA's ratings, because now you followed these ladies and now you're going to see them move on to the next level. So now you're going to see them move on to the next level. So now you might finally see some traction out of the WNBA that we hadn't necessarily seen before, and not because people didn't want to watch it, but you might see the media machine finally start to hype it up, because that's really the biggest fault when it comes to the WNBA. Like we have a team here. We don't hear about it until halfway through the season.

Speaker 3: 23:58

Right. Well, the WNBA has got a whole lot of other faults. I don't know if we want to go into that, but one when the season starts, nobody ever knows when it is and what's going on. So that's a huge problem.

Speaker 2: 24:09

And that's why I say the media machine is really at fault there.

Speaker 1: 24:13

Because it's not like they were bad teams.

Speaker 2: 24:16

Like Seattle's won four championships. And we still don't always know when those seasons start. And championships, and we still don't always know when those seasons start. And I think the draft's like next week Probably.

Speaker 1: 24:27

Yeah, I believe you All right. Well, congratulations to the South Carolina Gamecocks. You can call them the Lady Gamecocks. They got rid of that. I don't even know what even happened. It happened so suddenly. But the South Carolina Gamecocks, they had a perfect season and won the national championship. I can talk about Cardoza, 6-7 from Brazil, monster in the middle, fantastic play out of them. Chloe Kitts, fantastic play. See, I know their names. I can't do that. On the men's side I said Edie from Purdue.

Speaker 1: 24:57

Yeah, because he's been there for a while I'm in my bracket at this point? Yeah, because he's been there for a while got a whole bunch of new bandwagon riders on there they've never seen before, so congrats to all y'all.

Speaker 2: 25:22

yeah, of course, absolutely well, I mean they do have a lot of fans. I mean they have won what? Three championships now, and then you know in the final four, what? The last three years in a row.

Speaker 3: 25:33

So I mean yeah, and two out of the last three.

Speaker 1: 25:37

So, yeah, exactly, I know the bandwagon when I see them. They didn't. They ain't hiding, I know they are all right. So let's jump into the uh conversation we had. We had a couple of conversations you guys brought up a couple of weeks ago. We never had a chance to get to. We had so much fun with our other topics we kind of forgot to get back to it. But you guys are talking about, uh, paul bards are endorsement of jj mccarthy, which is going to be, uh, perhaps pivotal, so pivotal, I'm tired, y'all forgive me.

Speaker 1: 26:02

Pivotal going into the nfl draft was gonna start on the 25th, I believe, about 17 days from now, and then we had conversation about deon sanders pulling the eli. So we'll go ahead and start with the hardball one first. Uh, in this case hardball's not in line to draft a quarterback. He got justin herbert already, so he's already set in that regard. But he couldn't stop waving about his former quarterback. In his words at the annual meeting a couple of Mondays ago, or last Monday, he said he's the best quarterback in this draft. Wow, he plays quarterback the best of all the quarterbacks. He's a winner. That was the best workout I've ever seen. A quarterback during a pro day, the best throwing day I've ever seen. Okay, pro day, the best throwing day I've ever seen, okay, so there's a, there's a part of that. It's like you know, okay, that's, that's, that's your boy.

Speaker 1: 26:48

He entered to a national championship undefeated season. Same way. The game cost I I get the uh pouring on of praise. I, I get that part. Uh, his stats were, I think, uh, I think this was last year's. What was it Couldn't have been. It had to have been the entire time 213 and 287. 2630 yards, 19 touchdowns, four interceptions it had to be the entire season Three touchdowns on my foot, rushing 146 rushing yards. So basically, over the Michigan's final five games, mccartney threw one touchdown pass Pretty modest numbers even against Iowa 147 yards passing. They did everything on the ground for the most part.

Speaker 1: 27:34

I mean he filled his role well as far as being one of the best not the best team in the league. Threw one interception all year long Rank team in the league. He won the interception all year long, ranked in the top 10 among FBS quarterbacks, sixth in passing ratings and second in completion percentage. So he did what he had to do in that regard. But even I'm not sure I can say he's the best quarterback in the draft. I don't think, and I'm a fan. I'm a diehard Michigan fan. I don't roll, I think, and I'm a fan, I'm a diehard Michigan fan. I don't, I don't. I don't roll anywhere else. I don't think I could even say that much. But what do you guys talk about McCarthy and where he is projected to be in the draft? What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2: 28:10

I mean he's definitely not the best one, but not necessarily because he can't be, because he just wasn't asked to do that much, right, like that's not what their offense was about, um, but of course you know, when it comes to Harbaugh, not what their offense was about.

Speaker 2: 28:23

But of course you know, when it comes to Harbaugh, he's hyping up his guy, right, because he's not in the market for a quarterback anyway. He's got one. So at the end of the day he's hyping up his guy seeing if he can build some you know draft position for his quarterback. But at the end of the day what we watched is they didn't use him where he was the focal point, right. So we don't, we don't really know if he could be the best guy in the draft. He very well could have been, but we didn't see it and so that doesn't garner a number one pick to me, right. Number one overall type of thing. Like at best he's going to be a fourth pick off off the board at quarterback he's going to be a fourth pick off the board at quarterback Herb.

Speaker 3: 29:04

Yeah, no, I agree, I think the combination of quarterback needy teams and people you know trying to get positioning they're going to take a chance on them before, maybe like Knicks and Pennix. But no, I mean he's hyping his guys. I would expect that from the coach.

Speaker 2: 29:22

We don't even believe you, believe you.

Speaker 3: 29:26

I would only believe it if he had the number one pick and he took JJ. Otherwise, like you're just, we're just talking.

Speaker 2: 29:32

Yeah, no, that would be one thing right, like if he had the number one overall pick and he went after him. Okay, let's see what you got. You saw something that we didn't because you coached him all year. Then I could believe that, but this seems like a smoke show more than anything else.

Speaker 1: 29:48

Yeah, well, that's fine, we can go ahead and go over there. I'm not going to change anything that I did. I'm not sure he's the best quarterback in the entire draft. I mean, we said the same thing.

Speaker 2: 30:00

Say that again, I mean we said the same thing.

Speaker 1: 30:02

Say that again.

Speaker 2: 30:03

I said we said the same thing. We don't think he's the best guy in the draft.

Speaker 1: 30:06

Yeah, I don't think he has to be, but I watched his entire college career. I didn't see any high school, just college. I watched his entire college career. I've seen him make throws that are not always happening with some of the other quarterbacks. I've seen him do things with his legs. I like the quarterback that he is.

Speaker 1: 30:27

I felt like there were some times where in certain games uh, a couple specifically I wish that he did throw the ball more, but that's not what they needed. They were uh, preparing against the run and Corman, it was running it down people's throats and it was like it was working. Nobody was stopping it. Keep doing what you're doing. So I don't know where he is in the draft. I think hopefully next week we can do our top 10 mock. We've been talking about it for several weeks now. Hopefully we can get that done next week.

Speaker 1: 31:01

But I don't know where he's going to fall in you guys' mock draft. I guess you've got time to think about it now, at least a week. But he's not number one overall. I don't see that. But I feel like even if we didn't have quarterback-needy teams the way we do now in the formation that they're in, I feel like he's still in the top 15. Still still in the top 15. Still not in the second round. When we see him mock uh prior to the uh a little earlier in the in the uh preseason off season, excuse me, so yeah I think he'll be the fourth off the board, which will still be a first round pick I think.

Speaker 1: 31:38

I think he's definitely a first round pick. Uh, I think he's going to be definitely higher than a 15. I think he's going to be in that realm even if it wasn't for the quarterback media team, because if you have that, like Herb stated, you're going to be taking a lot quicker off of the board At two with the commanders. I don't know that's going to be interesting, but it does present possibilities for us because we need a quarterback as well. So if the Commanders do decide to make that move, I ain't going to be mad at them. Go right ahead, because that drops guys that I think we actually like into our laps potentially. So that's a good thing. I don't think we're moving back like people are saying. I think we're going to stay there and take a quarterback if he's available, if all the quarterbacks are gone, that we want different scenario, we may either take a wide receiver or kind of move on from there. What grade do?

Speaker 2: 32:23

you guys pick.

Speaker 1: 32:24

You guys are, yeah, six right now.

Speaker 2: 32:26

Six. Yeah, I mean they're not going to all be gone because there's six quarterbacks coming in that are viable quarterbacks yeah.

Speaker 3: 32:36

And I think you need a trade at what four and five to get, even to get you to a point where you'd be taking the sixth best yeah, because I mean there's no way you're getting all six off the board, one through six, like someone's taking harvin harrison yeah no, that's what I'm saying. Somebody would have to trade with the cardinals and trade with the chargers for you to get five in a row quarterbacks, I would think yeah, well, just unless new england does something.

Speaker 1: 32:59

Leaders and the vikings are potentially they potentially going to make a move to that spot because they need to have a quarterback too.

Speaker 2: 33:07

No, but what my point is is there's six good quarterbacks coming into this, like there's more quarterbacks, obviously, but there's six that are potential first rounds. You're sitting at six. I mean, you get one of them, no matter how people trade.

Speaker 1: 33:21

I'm not attacking, I'm just going to make a quick point. Let me. Let me say the point for you before you tell me what's gonna happen. Hold on. So bo nicks he wasn't one of the guys in our conversation. A lot of the times we didn't talk about him. We talked about drake may, we talked about jj, thought about jayden daniels, we talked about c. Bo Nix is, let's be honest, he wasn't at the top of that list. He's one of those six quarterbacks you're talking about. I'm assuming he's not one of the guys that we've been talking about.

Speaker 3: 33:49

When you had me label six quarterbacks, I always put Bo Nix at six, and Raj even said that he thought Bo Nix was going to be the best of the bunch. So we've talked about I'm trying to find out.

Speaker 1: 33:58

Was he serious? I still don't even know. Did he mean?

Speaker 3: 34:01

it. He said he's serious. I said I'm going to hold him to it. No, I mean.

Speaker 2: 34:05

Bo Nix has talent. There's a reason Oregon was good he had to go and make throws. Now he doesn't throw as good of a ball as a Pennix. He's more mobile, so he has an element of his game that maybe he doesn't. I'm not sold on Caleb, because he's found ways to come up short when it matters, right, like when he played good teams. He didn't play his best ball, right. So I mean you know Drake may is is a stat monster, but we'll see what happens when he lands somewhere. You know that doesn't have a good offensive line.

Speaker 1: 34:38

So I mean you know you freeze up on this I don't think you did all right, so yeah, it's okay catch when you come back, bro, but it pertains to pennies and nicks. I got feelings about both of them, the amount of teams that oh, wow, what happened?

Speaker 2: 35:01

but yeah, who knows? But uh, yeah. So I mean, at the end of the day, there's enough quarterback needy teams that potentially all six of them end up in the first round I don't.

Speaker 1: 35:12

I don't doubt that. In fact, I'm almost positive that's going to happen. Uh, for me, though, just I don't. I'm not over the uh giants wallet. This is me talking no, depending on nicks, that's not where I want to go unless I really really have to. I'm not doing spencer rattler and no nonsense like that so you already have those guys on the roster.

Speaker 2: 35:34

So I mean you have Drew Locke, you have, you know, jones, like I mean you're not exactly, that wouldn't be an upgrade. But I understand that you go Knicks through the top. It potentially is.

Speaker 1: 35:48

I don't. I don't want Pennix and Knicks if we don't have to do that. Well, for a couple of reasons that we talked about on the show uh, injuries on pennix side and some other stuff I'm kind of concerned about, and nicks from some other thing I'm concerned about there. So I don't really want to do that. So for me the giants may be thinking differently, but for me it comes down to four quarterbacks and I know caleb is not happening unless he has a precipitous fall for number one. I don't see it happening. So it comes down to us having access to potentially three quarterbacks. It's not six for me, it's just three. And if we don't have this, like okay. So what do we do now? Are we going to go into the day two without a quarterback? Are we going to reach? Are we going to trade for somebody? So it's a different situation for me, but that's just coming from a Giants standpoint. But any other thoughts about the quarterbacks in the draft and the first few quarterback picks Williams, daniels, may, mccarthy, anything else on that?

Speaker 2: 36:43

one, so you wouldn't want McCarthy.

Speaker 1: 36:46

Yeah, he's one of the three.

Speaker 3: 36:48

Yeah, he's saying Caleb Williams is out, so he's focused on the other three. Oh, okay, the three he wants.

Speaker 1: 36:54

I don't see how Williams gets to. I don't see how we even have a chance of that. I'm not quite sure. I don't think you have a chance at the top three unless you move. I don't want to do that either. Yeah, so I wouldn't.

Speaker 2: 37:05

Mccarthy would be so I wouldn't, mccarthy be your best shot. Yeah, cause the other thing.

Speaker 1: 37:11

I don't know what's our best shot man. Like I said, the Raiders and the Vikings. They needed a quarterback. Bad, they're not. They're not sitting here like, okay, we're going to wait until this rattler comes out in the second round. That's not what's happening. No, I'm saying they got the going to do so. They're going to try to make a move up, especially if they have five charges. They're going to do something.

Speaker 3: 37:33

He's saying with no trades, mccarthy is your best shot. With no trades, that's your best case scenario.

Speaker 1: 37:43

I'll take that. If that's it, I'll take that. I'll take him over Pennington. Of course you will, without question. Rattler's now on the table. I take that. I take him over panic. Of course you will, without question. Rattler's now on the table. I'm so sorry, excuse me.

Speaker 3: 37:56

Rattler catching strays over, he's like.

Speaker 1: 37:58

I don't need that.

Speaker 4: 37:59

We apologize to the Rattler family we played here.

Speaker 1: 38:06

We played here, so I got a chance to watch this. I watched him play it. I watched it.

Speaker 2: 38:13

I agree with Travis here. I do think that Pennix will probably. I don't know necessarily if it'll be late, but it'll definitely be like mid to late. First round is probably where Pennix goes. And then, when it comes to Knicks, it'll either be the end of the first early second, would be my thought, because there are enough teams that don't necessarily need a quarterback, but they do need some of these offensive linemen that are coming through.

Speaker 1: 38:40

Ain't no way in the world I told you this. I'm staying on this hill right here. There's no way in the world Knicks is going that late. I'm standing on this hill right here. There's no way in the world Knicks is going that late. Denver, Minnesota and Oakland, just by themselves, ain't letting that man pass to no second round. It's not happening. See, they have one in Washington. They need a quarterback as bad as we do. Yeah.

Speaker 2: 39:06

I mean the Vikings made an indication that they were looking at next year for a quarterback. They were going to rock with Darnold.

Speaker 1: 39:12

I don't believe it. Do you? You believe it?

Speaker 2: 39:16

It depends on if they need offensive linemen, and there's a lot of them that are first-round talent.

Speaker 1: 39:21

Oh my God, that would be a nightmare. But let's keep moving. We've got to watch our time, I mean not really Think of the division they're in.

Speaker 2: 39:29

The Lions are good, right, Green Bay is coming on. The Bears are the Bears, but I mean if the Vikings want to contend they're going to need to protect whatever quarterback they have.

Speaker 1: 39:43

So I mean I got to keep Jefferson happy for the time he's going to be there too. I see them getting a tackle to help protect.

Speaker 2: 39:54

Don't know the Jefferson, no, sir.

Speaker 1: 40:00

I mean it was Jefferson from four different guys this last year. Yeah, and look what that's done. The man is unhappy. If you want to keep him, you got to take him some kind of way. Do that with a quarterback that can give him the ball as much as he wants.

Speaker 2: 40:11

Yeah, I don't know With them because they're probably not keeping Jefferson after this season. You may very well get a quarterback next year. Build your line this year and start your rebuild, because at the end of the day you already have the Lions that own the division. You've got Green Bay coming on. The Bears have potential, right Like their roster if they can figure their coaching out, could actually win games. So I mean it's not like it's a cakewalk to get through the north there. So I mean it might make sense to wait a year on a quarterback for them.

Speaker 1: 40:50

Herb. Any closing thoughts on this?

Speaker 3: 40:52

No, I see where he's coming from.

Speaker 3: 40:53

You know you're trying to say is Nick's going to elevate us enough to keep Jefferson? So if you're grabbing a guy like that, I've always thought before coming into the year that he was more of a second-round talent. But I do agree, somebody's going to get desperate and take him before the end of the first round talent. But I do agree, somebody's going to get desperate and take him before the end of the first round. We believe Raj, he's going to be the best of the bunch anyway, without question.

Speaker 2: 41:16

He'll probably land in the best situation. He's going to be a more complete team rather than an absolute dumpster fire walking in.

Speaker 1: 41:27

Can't wait for the draft. Let's see what happens. All right, so this Dion thing I'm going to let y'all run with this for the most part, because the whole pulling Eli thing I don't know it just hit me kind of weird. I knew what he was trying to say, but it was like I felt like this is not. It felt different to me than what he's describing, but, for those who are not aware, he went on a podcast called million dollars worth a game and he talked about his thoughts on where he wanted to see two of his stars his son shidua, which is the quarterback of the team, and travis hunter, which is a wireless wide receiver. Slash uh d-back, where he wants them to land in the 2025 NFL draft. They both expected to be early first-round picks, but I guess in Deion's mind certain teams are off-limits. He said I know where I want them to go, so with certain cities that ain't going to happen. It's going to be at Eli. And what he mentioned was the five teams that he actually played for himself as a player Atlanta, washington, dallas, baltimore and San Fran.

Speaker 1: 42:32

When he says it's going to be at Eli, he's referring to the time in the 2020, sorry, sorry, excuse me 2004 draft, where Eli was the projected first round pick to go to the Chargers in San Diego. When they were there and him and his dad, I guess, kind of vetoed the idea and there's some reason behind that. It's not just a young kid trying to push his weight around, it was a reason why he didn't want to go to San Diego. So they vetoed that and I think San Diego went ahead and drafted. I know they ended up with Rivers. I forgot how it went up with Rivers. I forgot how it went down. Though I'm going to get drafted, I'm blanking, I'm tired, oh my God. Okay, okay, okay, all right, blind season in full effect. So either way, either way, eli didn't go to San Diego, they got Rivers instead and Eli going to the Giants and of course, you know his uh pedigree on that and the uh the way his season went in New York.

Speaker 1: 43:38

So I don't know this. This is subjective nature to the whole scouting process. We get that part, but I guess these guys, now that they have some money in their pocket, they can, if they want to, they can decide to go ahead and sit out a full year and then re-enter the draft. They can have the potential to do that kind of stuff. I guess it's like why you want to pick a fight when you don't have to. I guess it's some of the things that's been uh speculated about. But what are your thoughts on this whole dion pulling the eli thing? You think this is the future of college football or is this something that probably shouldn't be happening? What are you guys thinking?

Speaker 2: 44:12

I mean, both of those things are true, Probably is the future, but it probably shouldn't be happening. I don't love it. It's a bad look, especially when your coach is the one that's telling you to do this right. When he's like oh, I don't want my kid to go to any cold weather spots because that's not where he's played. Now remind me when's the playoffs in the Super Bowl? Oh, it's in the winter, like when it's cold right. You're going to have to travel places that are cold, so I don't know.

Speaker 1: 44:47

Baltimore's cold too. What's that? Baltimore's cold too? It's cold. Well, what's that? Baltimore is cold too.

Speaker 2: 44:59

It's cold. Well, I mean the thing is, when it comes to college sports, you know their season's kind of done by the time he's done playing. But yeah, it's a bad look Like, I don't like it. You certainly don't want to come out and publicly say it, even if you are saying stuff like that behind closed doors, because now it looks like you're just trying to manipulate the league yeah right and again, I, I don't love it.

Speaker 2: 45:20

Um, I I get it a little bit because of, you know, for his kid. He's trying to land his kid where he wants him to go. Uh, to do it for hunter, uh, man, yeah, that's not great. Yeah, I'd rather hear from hunter himself. By the way, on that one, like you said you talk for, to do it for Hunter, man, yeah, that's not great.

Speaker 3: 45:31

Yeah, I'd rather hear from Hunter himself, by the way, on that one. Like you said, you talk for your kid all the time. But again, hunter we've talked about is like one of the top talents. You know. Shadur has another year to prove to us that he can like. If he has a bad year, we won't even be talking about this. So you're putting this how about concentrating on getting to a bowl game next year versus like where your kid might get drafted? And then you look at this list and it's just dumb atlanta, you know, just got their quarterback. Baltimore, washington, san francisco. So are you saying you want your kid to not start next year? So I don't I don't know.

Speaker 3: 46:04

Based on what we saw from him, I wouldn't want him to start year one right, but some of those like san francisco, you would think, for a while, baltimore for a while, washington drafting a quarterback for a while. So, like I don't, I don't even get this list either. It doesn't make none of this makes a great you know thing. And then we're talking about eli, who's going to be a number one pick versus sugar. We have no idea. Like you're jumping the gun way too much yeah, that was.

Speaker 2: 46:27

that was one of the things in in the same show, I believe, where he, uh, or it was a different press conference, I don't remember exactly offhand, but he, um, he said that he, shador said that he wanted to be the number one quarterback off the board and dion went on to say he didn't think he would be in this draft, but but he wouldn't be below number two, right.

Speaker 3: 46:50

In this draft.

Speaker 2: 46:52

In this draft. I was like man, you are out of your mind. We did not see good enough stuff out of Shador to make me think he was a top two pick.

Speaker 3: 47:00

Right.

Speaker 2: 47:01

Like I don't think he's a first round pick. The only reason you might take him in the first round is because of who his dad is.

Speaker 3: 47:07

Correct. Deion is talking like his team was in the national championship game with Fedor versus. Y'all won four games. Like I don't get all the bluster, I don't get all the talk, you know, like it just doesn't. It doesn't fit what just happened last season.

Speaker 1: 47:23

Yeah, that's all it is. That's all it is. There's nothing else. There's no other ties to this. These are all Deion's old teams, that's it.

Speaker 2: 47:35

What this really reminds me of, more than anything else, is LeVar Ball.

Speaker 3: 47:40

Yeah, who also got into the news again this past week.

Speaker 2: 47:44

Yeah, I mean that makes sense, but I mean that LeVar Ball situation for his first kid coming out. That's exactly how this feels this robert griffin.

Speaker 1: 47:55

I'm gonna go ahead and read. I don't have a sound for this time, but I'm gonna read his quote. I think this is the part that kind of sticks with me. I'm like what are we getting ready to encounter? This is what robert griffin, uh, said in regards to uh sanders comments about shadul and travis hunter. He said the power ship is coming, so everyone needs to buckle up. Without the players, all of these sports leagues are nothing. This is the player empowerment age and you're seeing it coming to the nfl okay, what?

Speaker 3: 48:24

what a lot of these guys need to realize is it's short-lived in the nfl, it's not like other sports. So if you've only got seven, eight good years in the NFL, you're willing to sit out, one like that's just going to hurt you more than it's going to hurt the sports. The owners will find a way and people will object at first and then we'll just go watch whatever you put out there as long as it has, you know like the green Bay name or the Dallas Cowboys name on it.

Speaker 3: 48:48

Somebody has, you know, like the Green Bay name or the Dallas Cowboys name on it. Somebody's going to end up watching. So unless they think that they're going to band together like the whole first round would have to sit out and guess what? You're not getting everybody on board with that, not a chance. Too much money.

Speaker 1: 49:00

I know that these examples are not in hindsight. It makes sense now. But John Elway had a situation similar to this. He didn't want to go to the Colts. He threatened to go to the Yankees and Major League Baseball. Instead they got that thing figured out. He went to Denver, had a Hall of Fame career out there Bo Jackson in 86, he didn't want to go to the Bucs, I think it was. He decided to say I'm going to go to the World's in Kansas City and play baseball. I think he came back into the draft. The Raiders got him seventh, probably one of the greatest in history, if not the greatest in that regard. Jim Kelly same situation Refused to go to Buffalo, except he did end up going. He went to the USFL for a little while, came back to Buffalo and had also a Hall of Fame career there as well. I don't know. In hindsight we know their careers are off and they finished it. We can tell it was a good investment With Shador. It just feels different to me right now. Maybe just me.

Speaker 2: 50:00

I'm like I don't know.

Speaker 3: 50:05

The difference is those guys are like I don't want to go to this one place, dion's like I don't want you to go to these 25 places, like here's the short list. That doesn't. That doesn't make sense to me. You know, like we had one bad experience and you know, I don't know Dallas. I was like I just don't want my kid going to Dallas. I'm like, okay, I at least get that. Maybe that's one particular, but saying I don't want you to go anywhere where it ever gets cold.

Speaker 3: 50:26

Yes, I mean, like you said, who wants to draft a guy who's going to sit out every game in January, february? And then you've also created a narrative for your son. Let's say he does go to Dallas and Dak is gone and he plays right and they fail every playoff game in the cold weather. You just put the bullseye on his back and everyone's gonna talk about it and you're just I. I mean I have the type of hey, dad, can you just, can we calm down? Just like, talk about the team, talk about all this other stuff. Can you leave my future out of this, because all you're doing is making it worse for me, because now, if there is a flop, like he's just made it 10 times worse.

Speaker 2: 51:07

That's the thing. Is he better come out and absolutely ball out? Because, if you push yourself off a team and you're bad oh man, you will get absolutely barbecued in the media.

Speaker 4: 51:19

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 51:20

Oh God All right.

Speaker 1: 51:23

Well, let's keep the train. We only have about nine minutes left. We put out three polls for you guys. Consideration First poll was who's the most polarizing head coach in sports? Did we do the same thing for the most polarizing team in sports? And then the most polarizing individual player?

Speaker 4: 51:41

let's start with so let me answer this real quick right uh, all right.

Speaker 2: 51:47

so his question is is is it possible? Dion is trying to protect his son. Of course he is. Basically, he said he has never played in cold weather, so that's exactly what he's trying to protect him from, and I get it.

Speaker 2: 52:01

The problem is is you're going to have to travel. You're not going to get home games through the playoffs every time you get there, so you're gonna have to be able to play a road game in new york, in baltimore, you know new england like these are, it's cold, like you're gonna have to. You're gonna have to learn how to play when it's cold, like you're gonna. You know what?

Speaker 1: 52:19

chicago, right, it's cold okay, I wonder, travis, are you referring to something else, brother, that you haven't shared? It's just about cold weather, or is this something else? Because I'm not totally catching up.

Speaker 2: 52:33

I mean, there's no way. His kid was like I hate all the teams in the league, so I mean Well, nobody with a mind in their head could possibly think something like that.

Speaker 3: 52:44

I think some of these kids forget it's a privilege to get to the pro leagues, you know, and taking that for granted is going to bite you in the butt. You're sitting there watching.

Speaker 1: 52:52

YouTube all day. It's about highlights and and and and talent, flashes of talent. It's not. It's not the real world. They're going to find that out the hard way, just clearly in this case. All right, so our poll for the who's most polarized and head coach for, but you got to finish talking about them. Dion, pull out and head coach for, but you got finished talking about him. Dion, jim harbaugh, kim mulkey and bill belichick and sanders had a 33 percent vote and won that at the most polarized and head coach. I think this is the kind of stuff that we get these kind of votes for, these kind of comments. Even during the season last year, a lot of things that he did and said I'm like, wow, this is not helpful to the development. That's like what you say. Well, uh, dion is um helpful to the development.

Speaker 2: 53:29

What did you say? Bo Dion is the coach version of Jerry Jones. He cannot stay out from in front of the camera. He seeks out the camera every possible time, and that's part of Dion's personality, always was, so it's not like it's a shock. There's definitely times where it hurts his team more than anything else.

Speaker 1: 53:51

Yeah, absolutely, when you're a coach, it should be a little bit different, because it has to be, because you're representing players and you're being an example, a role model to these players.

Speaker 3: 54:00

When you're a player you can do all that kind of stuff because it more affects you, at least in certain positions. But yeah, you shouldn't put your kids under that. I think Deion out of that list was definitely the most polarizing because he's the one that kind of spans all the sports. Like, your average person is going to have an opinion on Deion when, like the other ones, they might have a particular one like within that sport. They might say, oh, we don't like this guy, but Deion is like across the board.

Speaker 2: 54:23

Well he's out there slinging prime gear and sunglasses and I mean he's always. He's always got all these extra things that he's doing, even during press conferences. So it's just like okay, man, like we get it, you were the best. But you know, at some point I want to hear you talk about your kids upcoming season and how you're going to improve on what you had.

Speaker 2: 54:45

Like great, you've got a contract for sunglasses, sunglasses. But at the end of the day, I don't really care. Like I, I want to know if colorado is going to take a step forward or not I heard from guys that don't even watch college football on dion.

Speaker 1: 54:57

They were on him hard, don't even watch college football. I'm like, wow, that just transcends the sport apparently.

Speaker 2: 55:01

Yeah, hey, rick, thanks for joining us sir, because it gets picked up everywhere, because he was such a dynamic player and he was always a bunch of flash Right Like. Even when he played Right, it was always all the chains, you know, sunglasses and everything. Then Right Like that was. That was always how he was and I'm not hating on that at all. Like build your brand, it's cool, but as a coach, I also still want to learn about your team. Like at some point in this press conference about colorado, I kind of want to hear about colorado yes, sir, absolutely all right.

Speaker 1: 55:38

Next poll who's the most pole rocking player in sports? Well, we had lebron james, cristiano ronaldo, raymond green and dac prescott lebrron. Overwhelmingly sure 55 percent out of 47 votes. I was going to ask, raj, what you thought about that. Good morning, sir, you came in right on time good morning to you, sir.

Speaker 3: 56:02

When the poll first came out we texted and talked about it and it was like LeBron easy, because it kind of like with the Dion one, lebron is the answer that spans all the sports Versus like a Dak. You know he might be polarizing within NFL circles but the average fan is not going to care about most of that. You know most of the other people on the list.

Speaker 1: 56:21

Say what Other three guys only got 15%. It was LeBron, yeah.

Speaker 2: 56:25

Oh, LeBron would have won that going away, no doubt.

Speaker 1: 56:27

Yeah, yeah, absolutely All. Oh. Lebron would have won that going away, no doubt. Yeah, yeah, absolutely All right. Last one who's the most poor-looking team in sports? It's funny but it's like duh. But we had the Lakers in there. We had the Buffaloes Colorado Buffaloes Same team you just talked about that Dion coaches the New York Yankees and the Dallas Cowboys 3% for the Lakers, nothing for the Buffaloes, even though my Twitter timeline was blown up the entire season talking about Deion and the team.

Speaker 2: 56:54

That's the thing.

Speaker 3: 56:57

How you just phrased it.

Speaker 2: 56:58

Polarizing has nothing to do with the team.

Speaker 1: 57:02

Yeah, okay. New York Yankees 41% and Cowboys won at 56%.

Speaker 3: 57:08

Yeah, that's about how I thought it would shake out, because, again, when you're talking about polarizing, you're not talking about are they polarizing this year. You're talking about polarizing like across the board all the time, and Dallas definitely does that. The Lakers are more polarizing right now because LeBron's there, like they are one of the you know great franchises in the NBA, but after lebron leaves, like the talking about them is going to be a lot less well, and after kobe they were bad for a long time.

Speaker 2: 57:32

You're right, so it's not they were.

Speaker 3: 57:34

They were bad with kobe for the end of his career until he got, like paul gasol, for year one, a championship. So exactly they've been I didn't see him.

Speaker 1: 57:40

I didn't see him with polarizing men, but so much only the time that lebron's been there that I've been hearing so many things about them, lakers this and Lakers that, and Rodgers' point, lebron is by far the most polarizing Him. Leaving Cleveland the first time altered everything.

Speaker 3: 57:58

Because Rodgers is not a Lakers fan, he's a LeBron fan, so he won't even be talking about them after he leaves.

Speaker 1: 58:04

I have no idea about that. I got enlightened today. I didn't know that.

Speaker 3: 58:07

I thought he was a fan of that and, like you said, like Bo said, colorado is not polarizing, deion is so we wouldn't even be talking about Colorado if Deion wasn't there.

Speaker 2: 58:17

Yeah, we certainly wouldn't be talking about a four-win team. Yes, like it, just that wouldn't happen.

Speaker 3: 58:21

The greatest four-win team in the history of college football.

Speaker 1: 58:25

Yeah, I think they deserve to be in the conversation. If for nothing else, things that happen on the field we can blame Deion and say, okay, this is your influence. But a lot of things some dirty plays, some other stuff that happened during the season that we talked about on our shows, that kind of put them also under a disparaging spotlight. So I mean, it's not to the level of the Cowboys or Lakers I'm not saying that at all or the Yankees, I'm just saying so dirty plays, dirty plays will happen.

Speaker 2: 58:55

If you're running your mouth right Saying you're the best, you haven't proved anything yet. Other teams take exception to that. Like, if you're running your mouth in their stadium, you can bet you get a little extra. Can bet you, you get a little extra because you're giving them bulletin board material.

Speaker 3: 59:12

Anytime you do that, even if they aren't the better team, they're coming to hit you yeah, colorado, colorado state was a an example of that and don't and don't get me wrong dion has been great for colorado because they were not getting this much exposure and this much press and this much yeah, so he has been great for them. It's just, some of the things are going to have to go Absolutely.

Speaker 2: 59:35

That gets us there.

Speaker 1: 59:37

We are there. This was, this was fun. So next week we're going to be going to heavy NFL draft and Major League Baseball, I think on Well, I don't think I know. The Monday afterwards, I think on well, I don't think I know. The Monday afterwards I'm going to be on assignment, kind of like what Bo's been doing, off and on from here and there I'll be doing it. This will be my turn. So I'm going to figure out another time for the show that week. Is that going to be the same week as the draft or is that the week 14.? So the 22nd, I think, yeah, it's the week 14. So the 20 22nd, I think yeah, it's the week before. No, no, no, okay, no, no, it's the week after that. So the 29th, that's the week that's the monday that I'll be uh driving back, okay, okay, so that's the draft. So we're gonna, we'll do, uh, some extensive, uh post draft draft coverage, maybe, maybe on the 30th. We'll try to figure it out.

Speaker 1: 1:00:36

Good morning, west Coast. What's up, baby? Thanks for joining us, sir. Picks for the title game tonight. Hey guys, real quick. Picks for the title game tonight. I'm sticking with my bracket. It's all about the bracket I got UConn.

Speaker 3: 1:00:51

I'm taking Purdue Just going to like the underdog story and the redemption from last year. Uconn's a better team, so it's easy to pick Purdue, because if I'm wrong, I'm like oh well, you know everybody, they were the favorite.

Speaker 4: 1:01:01

Look at you, hedging your bet.

Speaker 1: 1:01:04

ED is a beast so that's fair.

Speaker 3: 1:01:11

How'd you both do? Yeah, but Klingon's a beast too. Uconn's a better team, don't get me wrong. The line is where it should be. Yeah, I know, I think UConn's enough better that they get to win.

Speaker 1: 1:01:16

It's funny In our bracket challenge.

Speaker 3: 1:01:17

we have two people If UConn wins, they win the bracket challenge, and if Purdue wins, that person wins the bracket challenge.

Speaker 2: 1:01:22

Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 1: 1:01:33

Oh, that all right.

Speaker 3: 1:01:33

Man well I think we're at that place. Guys talk about where they can find you find your shows. Go on youtube herb mirage podcast.

Speaker 2: 1:01:37

You can look us up there, or you see the twitter handle right there where you can see all our stuff streaming copy that oh and uh, yeah, you can see me on my channel football dash talk here on youtube and, of course, you can see me here in two hours on coast to coast on roku and we'll be together again wednesday morning at 9 am est.

Speaker 1: 1:01:57

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