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empty echoes of space, you know?"},{"startTime":273.204,"endTime":275.331,"body":"You're like a troll coming out from a bridge."},{"startTime":280.114,"endTime":283.459,"body":"Speaking of trolls coming out of a bridge, did watch the debate last night?"},{"startTime":284.093,"endTime":291.458,"body":"I did watch the debate and apparently, you know, I'm glad I don't think the dog eating"},{"startTime":284.093,"endTime":291.458,"body":"stuff has come to California yet."},{"startTime":291.458,"endTime":293.069,"body":"I don't think people are eating dogs in Cal."},{"startTime":293.069,"endTime":300.303,"body":"We haven't gotten to that stage of the apocalypse, you know, where people are eating dogs"},{"startTime":293.069,"endTime":300.303,"body":"and cats that I know of."},{"startTime":301.275,"endTime":303.33,"body":"Dude, wasn't that wild?"},{"startTime":303.551,"endTime":305.764,"body":"It's so wild because here's the deal."},{"startTime":306.426,"endTime":313.246,"body":"In any other 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you?"},{"startTime":464.241,"endTime":464.775,"body":"Did I lose you?"},{"startTime":464.775,"endTime":468.044,"body":"I don't have internet, are you there?"},{"startTime":468.19,"endTime":469.90299999999996,"body":"Yeah, back in, yeah."},{"startTime":470.567,"endTime":472.45,"body":"Just keep going with where you're at."},{"startTime":474.118,"endTime":475.359,"body":"Well, I was just talking about it."},{"startTime":475.359,"endTime":476.9,"body":"Okay, I'll just keep talking."},{"startTime":476.9,"endTime":481.263,"body":"I guess, yeah, because I'm freezing up and it's like throwing off my rhythm here."},{"startTime":481.263,"endTime":483.24399999999997,"body":"But like, I like to talk to those guys."},{"startTime":483.24399999999997,"endTime":489.759,"body":"I guess the point of them trying to say is I like to talk to those guys because then"},{"startTime":483.24399999999997,"endTime":489.759,"body":"they'll get in there and they'll be like, okay, listen, I used to be the CEO of 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newborns."},{"startTime":535.868,"endTime":536.258,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":536.258,"endTime":540.49,"body":"The newborns come out of the mama and they start walking around and they say, hello, my"},{"startTime":536.258,"endTime":540.49,"body":"name is Dan."},{"startTime":540.49,"endTime":543.451,"body":"And then there's like, and then the Democrats kill the newborns."},{"startTime":543.451,"endTime":550.9440000000001,"body":"And you're just like, okay, man, that's a, that's a lot for you to say here on the"},{"startTime":543.451,"endTime":550.9440000000001,"body":"Saturday morning farmers market, but like, good on you."},{"startTime":550.9440000000001,"endTime":551.984,"body":"Like keep doing your thing."},{"startTime":551.984,"endTime":553.565,"body":"And I know you got a good heart."},{"startTime":553.565,"endTime":556.216,"body":"You're a little nuts, but like stay away from, you know, my kids."},{"startTime":556.216,"endTime":557.2760000000001,"body":"Okay, kids don't 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wait."},{"startTime":616.6500000000001,"endTime":617.581,"body":"What are you talking about?"},{"startTime":617.581,"endTime":618.7620000000001,"body":"Like even the Fox News?"},{"startTime":618.7620000000001,"endTime":626.2090000000001,"body":"I watched Fox News after the fucking debate and even the Fox News people were like Boy,"},{"startTime":618.7620000000001,"endTime":626.2090000000001,"body":"that's a lot, huh?"},{"startTime":626.2090000000001,"endTime":627.76,"body":"What are we gonna do now?"},{"startTime":628.7420000000001,"endTime":629.087,"body":"Yeah"},{"startTime":629.087,"endTime":637.2130000000001,"body":"turned it they turned it to the moderators and this and that well But it's like, you know"},{"startTime":629.087,"endTime":637.2130000000001,"body":"three against one with the moderators But what do expect the moderators to do when you"},{"startTime":637.2130000000001,"endTime":647.899,"body":"have one candidate who's like they're eating dogs it's like You know Of 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anything."},{"startTime":693.662,"endTime":698.3420000000001,"body":"He just rambled like a loony old man at the farmer's market."},{"startTime":698.3420000000001,"endTime":704.633,"body":"Like, I feel like I'm coming out of a jazz game and it's those people that hold the signs"},{"startTime":698.3420000000001,"endTime":704.633,"body":"of like, you know, there's like,"},{"startTime":704.633,"endTime":707.0640000000001,"body":"There's a - there's there's a - here's what a fetus looks like!"},{"startTime":707.0640000000001,"endTime":708.2890000000001,"body":"You're like, gross!"},{"startTime":708.2890000000001,"endTime":709.5920000000001,"body":"My kids are here!"},{"startTime":709.682,"endTime":711.69,"body":"or outside of general conference when like..."},{"startTime":711.69,"endTime":712.87,"body":"of conference."},{"startTime":713.051,"endTime":715.4730000000001,"body":"Like that, like Trump would fit in with those 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field."},{"startTime":739.45,"endTime":741.052,"body":"They haven't been in the news."},{"startTime":741.956,"endTime":742.4670000000001,"body":"You know what?"},{"startTime":742.4670000000001,"endTime":743.283,"body":"It happened."},{"startTime":743.283,"endTime":744.605,"body":"could they put them in the news?"},{"startTime":744.605,"endTime":747.577,"body":"Someone crazier became President of the United States!"},{"startTime":747.577,"endTime":750.087,"body":"I just caught myself with as I was saying that."},{"startTime":750.087,"endTime":751.197,"body":"That's what happened."},{"startTime":751.657,"endTime":752.892,"body":"2016 happened."},{"startTime":752.892,"endTime":761.1400000000001,"body":"Yeah, they're not gonna be like, by the way, there's less crazy people doing less crazy"},{"startTime":752.892,"endTime":761.1400000000001,"body":"things than the president of United States."},{"startTime":761.1400000000001,"endTime":762.5110000000001,"body":"Everybody be like, who cares?"},{"startTime":762.5110000000001,"endTime":764.873,"body":"What's the fucking leader of the free world doing?"},{"startTime":764.873,"endTime":768.076,"body":"He's doing crazier shit than the Westboro Baptist Church."},{"startTime":768.317,"endTime":768.941,"body":"There was a"},{"startTime":768.941,"endTime":779.5010000000001,"body":"had to, I was gonna say with Kamala, I had to, I'm glad she eventually, cause when she"},{"startTime":768.941,"endTime":779.5010000000001,"body":"started talking and it was like, well, one, it was good she came with some sort of a plan"},{"startTime":779.5010000000001,"endTime":781.301,"body":"or I tried to articulate it."},{"startTime":781.301,"endTime":790.421,"body":"But when she got too bogged down into like, I have a policy that's gonna give 50 ,000 to"},{"startTime":781.301,"endTime":790.421,"body":"this and this and that, just like the same politicians speak that, you we hear so 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agree with you on that, but it's like..."},{"startTime":822.2900000000001,"endTime":830.99,"body":"Did anyone, so unsurprisingly, he took the bait every single time."},{"startTime":831.35,"endTime":843.0300000000001,"body":"Unsurprisingly, because no matter how hard anybody on his team tries to be like, dude,"},{"startTime":831.35,"endTime":843.0300000000001,"body":"you're gonna win if you just don't say crazy shit and don't get like little dick syndrome"},{"startTime":843.0300000000001,"endTime":846.73,"body":"out there on stage, which he did 40 times."},{"startTime":847.23,"endTime":850.71,"body":"Like nobody cares because people have already made their decision."},{"startTime":850.71,"endTime":851.8340000000001,"body":"Like gone."},{"startTime":851.8340000000001,"endTime":855.7850000000001,"body":"I don't know if it's ever happened, Mike, but like gone or that I guess I I try."},{"startTime":855.7850000000001,"endTime":856.8760000000001,"body":"I guess I try."},{"startTime":856.8760000000001,"endTime":860.596,"body":"And maybe I'm being insincere when I say this, but I do try."},{"startTime":860.5970000000001,"endTime":861.5970000000001,"body":"Like I read J .D."},{"startTime":861.5970000000001,"endTime":862.187,"body":"Vans book."},{"startTime":862.187,"endTime":863.697,"body":"I read Kamala's book."},{"startTime":863.898,"endTime":869.4390000000001,"body":"I believe that we should become informed about the people who are begging for our vote."},{"startTime":869.4390000000001,"endTime":870.72,"body":"I think our vote matters."},{"startTime":870.72,"endTime":875.5060000000001,"body":"I think a vote is a like it's a thing in a democracy, you know?"},{"startTime":875.5060000000001,"endTime":885.359,"body":"know there's a thing with like, mean, because it's a two party system, it gets really"},{"startTime":875.5060000000001,"endTime":885.359,"body":"challenging sometime because you're picking between sometimes tweedle dee and tweedle dum,"},{"startTime":885.359,"endTime":886.138,"body":"you know?"},{"startTime":886.138,"endTime":887.869,"body":"always, that's always kind of the case, right?"},{"startTime":887.869,"endTime":890.48,"body":"I mean, it's like two dipshits."},{"startTime":890.48,"endTime":894.2810000000001,"body":"But it's, no, guess that hasn't always been the case."},{"startTime":894.462,"endTime":899.0930000000001,"body":"Like I used to say that, like I used to say that when it was like McCain and Obama."},{"startTime":899.0930000000001,"endTime":901.965,"body":"I was like fucking dipshit A or dipshit B."},{"startTime":901.965,"endTime":913.0690000000001,"body":"But it's like, no, now it's seriously, you have to like look at people and be like, okay,"},{"startTime":901.965,"endTime":913.0690000000001,"body":"so you saw that he just said Haitian immigrants are."},{"startTime":913.3580000000001,"endTime":917.2800000000001,"body":"Eating dogs and they're eating cats and in 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just"},{"startTime":942.2560000000001,"endTime":944.077,"body":"you guys got to do your own research, man."},{"startTime":944.077,"endTime":954.211,"body":"You got to follow the, you know, follow the clues and you know, it's a, and it's like,"},{"startTime":944.077,"endTime":954.211,"body":"dude, you're basing your entire fucking identity on what one lunatic says."},{"startTime":954.211,"endTime":957.5920000000001,"body":"Like all these people who say like, do your own research."},{"startTime":957.5920000000001,"endTime":969.267,"body":"They're just dismissing that the whole planet earth is like, look, I know that we disagree"},{"startTime":957.5920000000001,"endTime":969.267,"body":"on stuff, but like, we got to agree basically that like, here's like the basic rules of"},{"startTime":969.267,"endTime":970.657,"body":"how we all sort of like,"},{"startTime":971.142,"endTime":972.7420000000001,"body":"interact with one another."},{"startTime":972.743,"endTime":977.003,"body":"But right now, the Trump thing is like, no, we disagree."},{"startTime":977.0640000000001,"endTime":979.0840000000001,"body":"One person is telling the truth."},{"startTime":979.1640000000001,"endTime":990.807,"body":"There's a huge conspiracy that the local police, you you go to like fundraiser for like"},{"startTime":979.1640000000001,"endTime":990.807,"body":"your local fire station."},{"startTime":990.8670000000001,"endTime":992.087,"body":"They're all in on it."},{"startTime":992.087,"endTime":993.558,"body":"The police are all in on it."},{"startTime":993.558,"endTime":999.1840000000001,"body":"The mayors, the county commissioners, the governor, like there's this whole thing."},{"startTime":999.1840000000001,"endTime":1005.609,"body":"that everyone is in on except for like a handful of dipshits like, you know, Alex Jones,"},{"startTime":999.1840000000001,"endTime":1005.609,"body":"Donald Trump, Joe Rogan."},{"startTime":1005.609,"endTime":1014.947,"body":"It's like these guys, these are the guys you're telling me to do my own research, but"},{"startTime":1005.609,"endTime":1014.947,"body":"you'll read an article that someone who went to like fucking journalism school and spent"},{"startTime":1014.947,"endTime":1021.933,"body":"six months researching and double checking and triple checking their sources and like and"},{"startTime":1014.947,"endTime":1021.933,"body":"like going into the front lines and saying, OK, here's what you know, here's what happened"},{"startTime":1021.933,"endTime":1023.4530000000001,"body":"in Afghanistan."},{"startTime":1023.7940000000001,"endTime":1024.7549999999999,"body":"Nope."},{"startTime":1025.436,"endTime":1026.4569999999999,"body":"That didn't happen."},{"startTime":1026.4569999999999,"endTime":1027.607,"body":"Bullshit."},{"startTime":1028.1009999999999,"endTime":1029.513,"body":"Donald Trump said it didn't."},{"startTime":1029.513,"endTime":1032.368,"body":"It's like you're, what are you talking 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any"},{"startTime":1235.938,"endTime":1247.938,"body":"festival and it's like, then it starts being like, okay, man, here's what's really going"},{"startTime":1247.938,"endTime":1249.538,"body":"on around here."},{"startTime":1249.618,"endTime":1252.058,"body":"And it's like, whoa, bro, like, I don't know, man."},{"startTime":1252.058,"endTime":1253.997,"body":"That sounds kind of heavy."},{"startTime":1254.527,"endTime":1256.999,"body":"And here's where I'm landing on all this."},{"startTime":1259.001,"endTime":1268.76,"body":"You can take so much literally and you can take, you know, you get into, so I did this"},{"startTime":1259.001,"endTime":1268.76,"body":"thing recently, man, I've gotten down a Mormon rabbit hole lately."},{"startTime":1268.76,"endTime":1270.772,"body":"So I, binged watch."},{"startTime":1271.393,"endTime":1274.376,"body":"I had to, I binged watch over the weekend."},{"startTime":1274.376,"endTime":1274.9070000000002,"body":"I know 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you."},{"startTime":1300.3700000000001,"endTime":1300.681,"body":"man."},{"startTime":1300.681,"endTime":1301.535,"body":"That's exciting."},{"startTime":1301.535,"endTime":1302.507,"body":"Very cool."},{"startTime":1302.925,"endTime":1303.445,"body":"Thank you."},{"startTime":1303.445,"endTime":1304.756,"body":"It felt so good yesterday."},{"startTime":1304.756,"endTime":1316.54,"body":"In fact, it was a really cathartic moment when I hit send on that thing and But I bring"},{"startTime":1304.756,"endTime":1316.54,"body":"that up because in the last three years not only I mean I love TV I I haven't watched but"},{"startTime":1316.54,"endTime":1323.7930000000001,"body":"I don't watch reality TV I haven't watched reality TV since it was a thing back, you know,"},{"startTime":1316.54,"endTime":1323.7930000000001,"body":"right when it was really getting big and you know the early 2000s when Survivor and The"},{"startTime":1323.7930000000001,"endTime":1331.7250000000001,"body":"Bachelor 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this."},{"startTime":2321.5989999999997,"endTime":2327.8819999999996,"body":"Or you just go and you're front and center at a concert and you just let the music just"},{"startTime":2321.5989999999997,"endTime":2327.8819999999996,"body":"like wash over you."},{"startTime":2327.8819999999996,"endTime":2330.363,"body":"And that's a way of knowing the music."},{"startTime":2330.723,"endTime":2340.187,"body":"Even if you like have no idea what chords they're playing and what you just, you're just"},{"startTime":2330.723,"endTime":2340.187,"body":"knowing it, you know, like in the biblical sense of knowing, you know."},{"startTime":2340.4269999999997,"endTime":2341.538,"body":"Yeah, you're fucking it."},{"startTime":2341.538,"endTime":2342.908,"body":"You're fucking with the music."},{"startTime":2343.163,"endTime":2347.893,"body":"you ever asked Chatchat GPT to write you a song?"},{"startTime":2350.2059999999997,"endTime":2352.211,"body":"Does it does it do music and 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are"},{"startTime":2441.649,"endTime":2452.22,"body":"they saying and she's like I don't know I don't even know but but she's feeling the music"},{"startTime":2452.22,"endTime":2460.779,"body":"do you know what mean whereas I'm the I don't know I'm the opposite I I like I like music"},{"startTime":2452.22,"endTime":2460.779,"body":"like I like the way of song sounds for sure but I like"},{"startTime":2460.779,"endTime":2473.605,"body":"more extreme on the lyric side than you are actually too even like if you put your us in"},{"startTime":2460.779,"endTime":2473.605,"body":"that spectrum, I feel like I lyrics to me can change like I could if a song has or I feel"},{"startTime":2473.605,"endTime":2484.6099999999997,"body":"like just like mundane lyrics or something that but then it has one line and that line"},{"startTime":2473.605,"endTime":2484.6099999999997,"body":"it's it's it's the the words in combination with like you know what they do with the you"},{"startTime":2484.6099999999997,"endTime":2485.2859999999996,"body":"know, yeah."},{"startTime":2485.2859999999996,"endTime":2486.337,"body":"totally agree with that."},{"startTime":2486.337,"endTime":2488.048,"body":"I mean, I love lyrics."},{"startTime":2488.048,"endTime":2489.489,"body":"I love words."},{"startTime":2489.89,"endTime":2493.892,"body":"You and I both love words, right?"},{"startTime":2494.393,"endTime":2501.078,"body":"But I keep getting, I keep being dumb, but like, it's the combination, right?"},{"startTime":2501.078,"endTime":2504.4399999999996,"body":"It's not like she's right or you and me are, like you and I are right."},{"startTime":2504.5209999999997,"endTime":2507.102,"body":"It's like, no, it's gotta be both kind of."},{"startTime":2507.1029999999996,"endTime":2507.673,"body":"You know what I mean?"},{"startTime":2507.673,"endTime":2510.3149999999996,"body":"Like, I guess you can get away with it, like, you 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you"},{"startTime":2524.62,"endTime":2537.049,"body":"were talking about when you're talking about the secret wives of Mormon housewives."},{"startTime":2537.049,"endTime":2537.41,"body":"please."},{"startTime":2537.41,"endTime":2539.9249999999997,"body":"Yeah, I would love to chat about that show."},{"startTime":2540.825,"endTime":2547.306,"body":"So because we've been trying to get music out there a little bit lately, we've got, we,"},{"startTime":2540.825,"endTime":2547.306,"body":"share like a tick tock account."},{"startTime":2547.306,"endTime":2547.968,"body":"You and I do."},{"startTime":2547.968,"endTime":2548.759,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":2550.395,"endTime":2561.8329999999996,"body":"dude, we share this fucking TikTok account and, I, I haven't had, social media for a long"},{"startTime":2550.395,"endTime":2561.8329999999996,"body":"time."},{"startTime":2561.8329999999996,"endTime":2564.855,"body":"And so like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm feeling the pull of it."},{"startTime":2564.855,"endTime":2570.8489999999997,"body":"Like I'm feeling the addiction of it, you know, I'll get on and do like TikTok and then"},{"startTime":2564.855,"endTime":2570.8489999999997,"body":"I'll just be like, God damn it."},{"startTime":2570.8489999999997,"endTime":2572.74,"body":"I just kind of want to watch some TikToks."},{"startTime":2572.74,"endTime":2573.6009999999997,"body":"Like I hate that."},{"startTime":2573.6009999999997,"endTime":2580.4649999999997,"body":"I hate, this is a confession I'm making, but I'll just kind of start scrolling and be"},{"startTime":2573.6009999999997,"endTime":2580.4649999999997,"body":"like, okay, let me check out some of these TikToks, but I can,"},{"startTime":2581.0069999999996,"endTime":2582.698,"body":"I was telling you this earlier today."},{"startTime":2582.698,"endTime":2591.104,"body":"I can tell that you've been watching the secret housewives of the secret Mormon housewives"},{"startTime":2582.698,"endTime":2591.104,"body":"because there's like a shitload of TikToks about them going on."},{"startTime":2591.104,"endTime":2592.0049999999997,"body":"Do you know what I mean?"},{"startTime":2592.0049999999997,"endTime":2593.6659999999997,"body":"It's like, the fuck man?"},{"startTime":2593.6659999999997,"endTime":2601.372,"body":"And then, but also dude, our TikTok stream has got to be the funniest freaking thing that"},{"startTime":2593.6659999999997,"endTime":2601.372,"body":"there is, right?"},{"startTime":2601.372,"endTime":2609.0099999999998,"body":"Cause like the combination of what you're looking at, what I'm looking at, like I get like"},{"startTime":2601.372,"endTime":2609.0099999999998,"body":"also like I'll jump from"},{"startTime":2609.0099999999998,"endTime":2616.6699999999996,"body":"like golf memes, like golf videos to like, Hey, I'm 24 and I'm about to go live."},{"startTime":2616.6699999999996,"endTime":2619.43,"body":"And sometimes 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true."},{"startTime":2671.772,"endTime":2672.8329999999996,"body":"You know what I mean?"},{"startTime":2673.74,"endTime":2679.484,"body":"so let me just talk about a little bit why, let me try to explain why I got sucked into"},{"startTime":2673.74,"endTime":2679.484,"body":"that show."},{"startTime":2680.906,"endTime":2694.335,"body":"cause it is, it is just as trashy as I imagine, you know, the real housewives of whatever"},{"startTime":2680.906,"endTime":2694.335,"body":"ever is, know, but because there's that Mormon aspect, you know, I found myself at first"},{"startTime":2694.335,"endTime":2700.8399999999997,"body":"being like, you know, the inner Mormon in me was like, these women are not Mormon."},{"startTime":2700.8399999999997,"endTime":2710.455,"body":"You know, you know, I know there's all over the internet, Like there's women are not"},{"startTime":2700.8399999999997,"endTime":2710.455,"body":"Mormon, but then that quickly changed to that quickly changed like, wait, no, 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talking"},{"startTime":3043.441,"endTime":3053.0629999999996,"body":"about the whore and the Madonna, like if I'm a little bit of a whore, I better go hard."},{"startTime":3053.0629999999996,"endTime":3054.524,"body":"Like I better go all the way."},{"startTime":3054.524,"endTime":3060.105,"body":"Like I better go all the way if I'm gonna be that prototype, if I'm gonna be that"},{"startTime":3054.524,"endTime":3060.105,"body":"archetype."},{"startTime":3061.152,"endTime":3063.41,"body":"man, I guess maybe I should watch this show."},{"startTime":3063.41,"endTime":3065.354,"body":"Fuck you, Mike, I don't wanna watch this show."},{"startTime":3065.354,"endTime":3074.364,"body":"so like for example, and I almost hesitate talking about a lot of this without a woman"},{"startTime":3065.354,"endTime":3074.364,"body":"here with us, but I am, you know what I mean?"},{"startTime":3074.364,"endTime":3075.584,"body":"We're two 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you're..."},{"startTime":3177.837,"endTime":3178.537,"body":"yeah."},{"startTime":3178.537,"endTime":3179.477,"body":"How?"},{"startTime":3181.6369999999997,"endTime":3182.252,"body":"yeah."},{"startTime":3182.252,"endTime":3186.932,"body":"elder one of the elder Bednar or someone popped up on your feed."},{"startTime":3187.5919999999996,"endTime":3188.312,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":3188.312,"endTime":3193.5319999999997,"body":"And he was talking about how why it's good that the church has stored up $120 billion."},{"startTime":3194.321,"endTime":3195.281,"body":"Yeah, he was defensive of it."},{"startTime":3195.281,"endTime":3196.5609999999997,"body":"He was like, he's giving a speech."},{"startTime":3196.5609999999997,"endTime":3201.441,"body":"And he's like, yeah, people have said, like, why does the Mormon church have to have $120"},{"startTime":3196.5609999999997,"endTime":3201.441,"body":"billion?"},{"startTime":3201.441,"endTime":3205.0009999999997,"body":"And he's like, I think that the rest of the world could learn from it."},{"startTime":3205.0009999999997,"endTime":3213.011,"body":"Like the rest of the world should, like, isn't it smart of us to store up for a rainy day,"},{"startTime":3205.0009999999997,"endTime":3213.011,"body":"you know, and be frugal."},{"startTime":3213.011,"endTime":3214.7709999999997,"body":"And I'm like, I'm sitting there watching this."},{"startTime":3214.7709999999997,"endTime":3219.497,"body":"I'm like, are people taking this, like, are people being like, yeah, good thing our"},{"startTime":3219.7619999999997,"endTime":3224.712,"body":"Good thing my religion has $120 billion because what if there's a rainy day?"},{"startTime":3224.712,"endTime":3226.3819999999996,"body":"What if there's a flood?"},{"startTime":3226.3819999999996,"endTime":3232.9719999999998,"body":"What if there's an earthquake and it puts a crack in the Salt Lake Temple or the"},{"startTime":3226.3819999999996,"endTime":3232.9719999999998,"body":"conference center?"},{"startTime":3232.9719999999998,"endTime":3233.352,"body":"Then what?"},{"startTime":3233.352,"endTime":3235.689,"body":"We need $120 billion to fix it."},{"startTime":3236.225,"endTime":3242.0249999999996,"body":"There's, I can't picture a scenario where the church actually uses that money."},{"startTime":3242.0249999999996,"endTime":3242.9249999999997,"body":"I can't."},{"startTime":3242.9249999999997,"endTime":3249.625,"body":"They're never gonna be, wait, good thing guys, we've got $120 billion here, we're gonna"},{"startTime":3242.9249999999997,"endTime":3249.625,"body":"like spread the wealth."},{"startTime":3249.625,"endTime":3250.375,"body":"They're not gonna do that."},{"startTime":3250.375,"endTime":3251.085,"body":"They're holding onto it."},{"startTime":3251.085,"endTime":3253.865,"body":"It's a fear thing and it comes out of scarcity."},{"startTime":3254.0649999999996,"endTime":3264.305,"body":"Comes out, could we start, like with hunter gatherers, the whole point was we were talking"},{"startTime":3254.0649999999996,"endTime":3264.305,"body":"about the work week and how we were like, the 40 hour standard work week is ridiculous."},{"startTime":3265.1839999999997,"endTime":3273.183,"body":"And in this book I was reading, it talking about hunter gatherers worked an average of 15"},{"startTime":3265.1839999999997,"endTime":3273.183,"body":"hours a week, because that's all they kind of needed to just take what they need."},{"startTime":3273.183,"endTime":3274.1639999999998,"body":"Because they had this trust."},{"startTime":3274.1639999999998,"endTime":3282.0739999999996,"body":"It's like, if I just take what I need and I share, we live in this place where food just"},{"startTime":3274.1639999999998,"endTime":3282.0739999999996,"body":"grows on 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her."},{"startTime":3460.865,"endTime":3466.8239999999996,"body":"Dude, that's, that was, I'm totally going off topic here again."},{"startTime":3466.8239999999996,"endTime":3469.1189999999997,"body":"So we're zig and zag, man."},{"startTime":3469.99,"endTime":3471.491,"body":"We zig and we zag."},{"startTime":3471.9919999999997,"endTime":3478.1969999999997,"body":"Dude, the pundits have been like, that's one of the things that they've tried to do,"},{"startTime":3471.9919999999997,"endTime":3478.1969999999997,"body":"right?"},{"startTime":3478.1969999999997,"endTime":3480.4179999999997,"body":"They try to tell story, it's a narrative."},{"startTime":3480.848,"endTime":3483.761,"body":"yeah, well, we just don't know much about Kamala Harris."},{"startTime":3483.761,"endTime":3485.562,"body":"We don't know much about her."},{"startTime":3485.7419999999997,"endTime":3490.216,"body":"She had a chance on the debate to tell us about herself, and we just still don't know much"},{"startTime":3485.7419999999997,"endTime":3490.216,"body":"about her."},{"startTime":3490.216,"endTime":3490.9959999999996,"body":"What's she hiding?"},{"startTime":3490.9959999999996,"endTime":3492.908,"body":"Like, we just don't know much about Kamala Harris."},{"startTime":3492.908,"endTime":3496.5699999999997,"body":"How can we vote for her when we don't know much about her?"},{"startTime":3497.051,"endTime":3498.652,"body":"And it's just like, dog."},{"startTime":3502.078,"endTime":3506.421,"body":"Your whole life is based on a dude that you never met before, that you don't know anything"},{"startTime":3502.078,"endTime":3506.421,"body":"about."},{"startTime":3506.421,"endTime":3508.841,"body":"Like, there's just like a bunch of fucking, like..."},{"startTime":3510.303,"endTime":3511.4429999999998,"body":"God!"},{"startTime":3512.2039999999997,"endTime":3514.5449999999996,"body":"We know way more about Kamala Harris than we know about God."},{"startTime":3514.5449999999996,"endTime":3514.7949999999996,"body":"A."},{"startTime":3514.7949999999996,"endTime":3515.7349999999997,"body":"That she exists!"},{"startTime":3515.7349999999997,"endTime":3517.1659999999997,"body":"Like, we know..."},{"startTime":3517.486,"endTime":3522.5099999999998,"body":"We know that Kamala Harris is a person and exists and she's running around."},{"startTime":3522.5099999999998,"endTime":3525.2129999999997,"body":"only seen her on TV and you know what else saw on TV?"},{"startTime":3525.455,"endTime":3526.8759999999997,"body":"People eating dogs."},{"startTime":3532.0249999999996,"endTime":3536.2709999999997,"body":"Why do I seem to eating dogs when people are talking about that people eating dogs?"},{"startTime":3536.7529999999997,"endTime":3550.518,"body":"Dude, I'm sorry, that was just a little throwaway side note for the thing because like you"},{"startTime":3536.7529999999997,"endTime":3550.518,"body":"were making the point where it's 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it's, can still be active because, know, you never"},{"startTime":3655.439,"endTime":3664.662,"body":"want to people to just be sitting around being idle because if people are sitting around"},{"startTime":3664.662,"endTime":3666.432,"body":"being idle and just chatting it up."},{"startTime":3666.432,"endTime":3673.734,"body":"So like I told you, someone might accidentally be like, I don't know that I don't know"},{"startTime":3666.432,"endTime":3673.734,"body":"what the thing with God is."},{"startTime":3673.734,"endTime":3675.355,"body":"Like you don't want that to be happening."},{"startTime":3675.355,"endTime":3675.7949999999996,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":3675.7949999999996,"endTime":3684.529,"body":"So it's like, no, you got to be buying wheats and like trading shares of wood, you know,"},{"startTime":3675.7949999999996,"endTime":3684.529,"body":"with people, you gotta be playing like."},{"startTime":3684.529,"endTime":3693.3489999999997,"body":"Mormon monopoly dude settlers of 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do?"},{"startTime":3752.852,"endTime":3754.3129999999996,"body":"They probably were like, you didn't do much."},{"startTime":3754.3129999999996,"endTime":3758.517,"body":"Even though like we did, I mean, we went up there, we hiked, we went on some hikes during"},{"startTime":3754.3129999999996,"endTime":3758.517,"body":"the day."},{"startTime":3758.517,"endTime":3764.672,"body":"We ate some good food and we chilled at night and chatted and drank wine and smoked weed."},{"startTime":3764.672,"endTime":3769.0249999999996,"body":"We did mushrooms one night, but we just kind of chilled and we're in each other's company."},{"startTime":3769.9269999999997,"endTime":3776.0519999999997,"body":"And I came home from that being like, I, at the time I was like, I'd never felt more"},{"startTime":3769.9269999999997,"endTime":3776.0519999999997,"body":"myself."},{"startTime":3776.0519999999997,"endTime":3781.115,"body":"Just, this was like, felt happy, felt content."},{"startTime":3781.9199999999996,"endTime":3786.48,"body":"Then I went to this other 40 year old party, a getaway."},{"startTime":3787.4399999999996,"endTime":3788.2439999999997,"body":"I'm out."},{"startTime":3788.388,"endTime":3794.2369999999996,"body":"And it was with Mormons who I love, a bunch of Mormons, but man, it was golfing."},{"startTime":3794.2369999999996,"endTime":3797.1209999999996,"body":"And then we would go, we would sneak over to Wendover and we'd gamble."},{"startTime":3797.1209999999996,"endTime":3802.408,"body":"And then we would like, or not Wendover Mesquite, whatever, they're both the same."},{"startTime":3803.8709999999996,"endTime":3804.2329999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":3804.2329999999997,"endTime":3807.316,"body":"border towns for Mormons to gamble."},{"startTime":3807.316,"endTime":3811.691,"body":"And then we'd be back in the place and we're like, we have a, we're doing a competition."},{"startTime":3811.691,"endTime":3815.685,"body":"We're doing a competition with games and we're doing, then there's, you know, Rupert"},{"startTime":3811.691,"endTime":3815.685,"body":"floats and this and that."},{"startTime":3815.685,"endTime":3818.1479999999997,"body":"And it was just like, everything was filled with something."},{"startTime":3818.1479999999997,"endTime":3821.0499999999997,"body":"We couldn't just fucking be."},{"startTime":3821.2309999999998,"endTime":3824.2549999999997,"body":"The only time we could be is when we're driving around a golf cart, you know, or whatever."},{"startTime":3824.2549999999997,"endTime":3828.4379999999996,"body":"That's the closest we got to being or sitting at a craps table."},{"startTime":3830.154,"endTime":3838.018,"body":"But that was still, it was involved, there was a game involved, there was something else"},{"startTime":3830.154,"endTime":3838.018,"body":"to keep us occupied, something else to remove us from the presence of each other."},{"startTime":3838.921,"endTime":3843.047,"body":"And it's just an interesting dynamic with the scarcity."},{"startTime":3844.1769999999997,"endTime":3846.3039999999996,"body":"I'm not doing these from my home anymore, dude."},{"startTime":3846.3039999999996,"endTime":3847.971,"body":"This has been..."},{"startTime":3847.971,"endTime":3850.263,"body":"gotta say I love you there in your home."},{"startTime":3850.9849999999997,"endTime":3853.328,"body":"Yeah, I feel like it brings a different energy to it."},{"startTime":3853.328,"endTime":3854.0319999999997,"body":"do."},{"startTime":3854.0319999999997,"endTime":3855.763,"body":"dog is driving me crazy."},{"startTime":3856.884,"endTime":3864.508,"body":"He keeps, okay, right now he's standing at the door looking at me, tapping it with his"},{"startTime":3856.884,"endTime":3864.508,"body":"little paw."},{"startTime":3865.7889999999998,"endTime":3867.109,"body":"Can you hear it?"},{"startTime":3867.99,"endTime":3869.971,"body":"Fuck."},{"startTime":3870.6119999999996,"endTime":3871.922,"body":"He keeps tapping at it."},{"startTime":3871.922,"endTime":3873.884,"body":"So I sneak over there and open the door."},{"startTime":3873.884,"endTime":3875.694,"body":"He looks at me."},{"startTime":3876.395,"endTime":3879.723,"body":"I'm just like, okay, bro, you're toast, man."},{"startTime":3879.723,"endTime":3882.277,"body":"I feel like it's had a more relaxed feeling with you home."},{"startTime":3882.277,"endTime":3883.118,"body":"I like it."},{"startTime":3883.118,"endTime":3886.863,"body":"We just had the one internet hiccup, you know?"},{"startTime":3887.5249999999996,"endTime":3889.528,"body":"We just had the one internet hiccup, that's fine."},{"startTime":3889.528,"endTime":3891.27,"body":"I have those all the time."},{"startTime":3892.645,"endTime":3893.22,"body":"Yeah, that's true."},{"startTime":3893.22,"endTime":3894.2819999999997,"body":"I just had the one."},{"startTime":3894.2819999999997,"endTime":3895.006,"body":"Yeah, it good to..."},{"startTime":3895.006,"endTime":3896.4739999999997,"body":"it was finally on your end, a little in..."},{"startTime":3896.4739999999997,"endTime":3897.1879999999996,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":3897.1879999999996,"endTime":3897.979,"body":"better, I guess."},{"startTime":3897.979,"endTime":3905.2039999999997,"body":"Remember in the early days when it was like, we would try to do it and it was just like"},{"startTime":3897.979,"endTime":3905.2039999999997,"body":"constantly frozen."},{"startTime":3905.2039999999997,"endTime":3908.326,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":3909.1879999999996,"endTime":3910.8489999999997,"body":"I think we're there."},{"startTime":3911.5499999999997,"endTime":3912.7709999999997,"body":"Well, I think we're already there, man."},{"startTime":3912.7709999999997,"endTime":3915.4429999999998,"body":"I think I like the way hit on scarcity."},{"startTime":3915.4429999999998,"endTime":3918.116,"body":"think I just love where we went with this, man."},{"startTime":3918.116,"endTime":3920.337,"body":"Do you want to do want to lead us out with the song?"},{"startTime":3922.319,"endTime":3922.8799999999997,"body":"OK."},{"startTime":3922.8799999999997,"endTime":3926.23,"body":"Didn't want to know if you want to do a closing number, you know."},{"startTime":3926.23,"endTime":3927.716,"body":"want to do the closing hymn."},{"startTime":3931.1409999999996,"endTime":3939.044,"body":"You know the other thing about like it's a new picture of me basically."},{"startTime":3939.044,"endTime":3946.185,"body":"I'm so used to the picture of me on the screen from my office because of work and because"},{"startTime":3939.044,"endTime":3946.185,"body":"you and I talk all the time."},{"startTime":3946.326,"endTime":3952.3869999999997,"body":"So this has been like, know, got things in the background and I'm at a different angle and"},{"startTime":3946.326,"endTime":3952.3869999999997,"body":"I look a little grungy."},{"startTime":3952.3869999999997,"endTime":3955.008,"body":"I look little, I kind of look dirty like all night."},{"startTime":3955.008,"endTime":3957.4489999999996,"body":"like I showered today, didn't I?"},{"startTime":3957.4489999999996,"endTime":3958.989,"body":"I look kind of dirty."},{"startTime":3959.245,"endTime":3960.296,"body":"yeah, out in the mountains."},{"startTime":3960.296,"endTime":3960.8509999999997,"body":"Look at that."},{"startTime":3960.8509999999997,"endTime":3961.845,"body":"good picture."},{"startTime":3962.1319999999996,"endTime":3963.513,"body":"I do wish that I was still outside."},{"startTime":3963.513,"endTime":3964.667,"body":"That was a beauty,"},{"startTime":3964.874,"endTime":3965.7169999999996,"body":"beauty."},{"startTime":3966.437,"endTime":3970.9849999999997,"body":"I'm not kidding you, the fucking dog is now in here and he's scratching to get out of"},{"startTime":3966.437,"endTime":3970.9849999999997,"body":"here."},{"startTime":3970.9849999999997,"endTime":3973.08,"body":"I'm gonna go f"},{"startTime":3974.2369999999996,"endTime":3975.4779999999996,"body":"Just tell them to be man."},{"startTime":3975.4779999999996,"endTime":3982.3979999999997,"body":"Just tell them just yeah, just be here now All right, love you,"},{"startTime":3982.685,"endTime":3985.192,"body":"I know, I know, sorry Mike, I forgot we were..."},{"startTime":3985.192,"endTime":3988.2369999999996,"body":"stay on, stay it open right now, because you're only like 60 % uploaded, so."},{"startTime":3988.2369999999996,"endTime":3990.173,"body":"forgot we were still recording, sorry."}]}