{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":57.778000000000006,"endTime":65.426,"body":"I mean, lately we've just been doing the podcast and just kind of like doing it at our"},{"startTime":57.778000000000006,"endTime":65.426,"body":"kind of whenever we're available type of thing, you know?"},{"startTime":65.426,"endTime":66.04,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":66.04,"endTime":66.714,"body":"huh."},{"startTime":68.119,"endTime":78.756,"body":"What do you think about doing like a, what do I think about doing like a live one where"},{"startTime":68.119,"endTime":78.756,"body":"people can sit and hang out with us in this setting right here?"},{"startTime":79.672,"endTime":81.649,"body":"I like that we can share the link, right?"},{"startTime":81.808,"endTime":87.501,"body":"All we do is say, it's going to be such and such date at such and such time."},{"startTime":88.702,"endTime":99.358,"body":"You know, you buy a, you know, pay a buck and get in, you know, type of thing so 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did."},{"startTime":305.596,"endTime":309.63100000000003,"body":"So I posted something on TikTok today."},{"startTime":309.732,"endTime":311.724,"body":"Did you see what I posted on TikTok today?"},{"startTime":312.04200000000003,"endTime":314.477,"body":"I've been actively refusing TikTok today."},{"startTime":314.477,"endTime":317.495,"body":"Because I'll tell you about the TikTok part and why I've been doing that."},{"startTime":317.495,"endTime":318.82,"body":"let's talk social."},{"startTime":318.82,"endTime":321.138,"body":"We probably should talk social media in general, right?"},{"startTime":321.138,"endTime":321.929,"body":"Yeah,"},{"startTime":323.44,"endTime":332.89,"body":"I posted something on TikTok where I basically just said, look, I, you know, whatever you"},{"startTime":323.44,"endTime":332.89,"body":"voted, like good on you, more power to you."},{"startTime":332.89,"endTime":333.461,"body":"I love you."},{"startTime":333.461,"endTime":345.784,"body":"Whether you 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rights and cared about democracy and cared about the"},{"startTime":410.71999999999997,"endTime":412.652,"body":"fucking whole process."},{"startTime":412.652,"endTime":420.397,"body":"And it turns out, know, the TS Eliot that the world ends not with a bang, but a whimper."},{"startTime":420.457,"endTime":426.39099999999996,"body":"It's a great, know, TS Eliot wrote, you know, April is the cruelest month."},{"startTime":426.39099999999996,"endTime":428.342,"body":"know, TS Eliot, great poet."},{"startTime":429.86199999999997,"endTime":442.21299999999997,"body":"The democracy ends with people not participating in democracy and just being like, well,"},{"startTime":429.86199999999997,"endTime":442.21299999999997,"body":"you know, here's the thing, like, I'm not, I'm I'm not into that whole thing."},{"startTime":442.21299999999997,"endTime":444.214,"body":"You're not into that whole thing."},{"startTime":444.91499999999996,"endTime":447.037,"body":"Motherfucker, it's your whole fucking life."},{"startTime":447.037,"endTime":448.70799999999997,"body":"You fucking idiot."},{"startTime":450.46999999999997,"endTime":451.281,"body":"You're not into it."},{"startTime":451.281,"endTime":453.171,"body":"You're not into it."},{"startTime":454.173,"endTime":457.255,"body":"I mean, like for me, I guess I'm okay."},{"startTime":457.255,"endTime":466.421,"body":"Like living under an oligarchal rule where billionaires decide how I can and can't live my"},{"startTime":457.255,"endTime":466.421,"body":"life because I'm just not into democracy."},{"startTime":466.421,"endTime":469.683,"body":"All you have to do is go fill out a little box."},{"startTime":470.203,"endTime":473.045,"body":"All you have to do is go fill out a box."},{"startTime":473.10499999999996,"endTime":474.37,"body":"It's the easiest thing ever."},{"startTime":474.37,"endTime":476.882,"body":"now they mail it to you, fill it out at home and you can drop it off."},{"startTime":476.882,"endTime":478.313,"body":"I mean, that's what I did in California."},{"startTime":478.313,"endTime":487.959,"body":"Like I had my mail-in ballot that I dropped off just at a ballot box on a random Friday"},{"startTime":478.313,"endTime":487.959,"body":"and got to just fill it out from my own home."},{"startTime":488.68,"endTime":492.702,"body":"But that shocked me, especially when we were hearing the early turnout numbers and"},{"startTime":488.68,"endTime":492.702,"body":"everything."},{"startTime":492.702,"endTime":494.983,"body":"And then I just thought..."},{"startTime":497.45599999999996,"endTime":497.976,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":497.976,"endTime":503.84,"body":"So speaking of like the TikTok thing, man, because yeah, you did say, I think Donald"},{"startTime":497.976,"endTime":503.84,"body":"Trump's going to win it."},{"startTime":504.08,"endTime":507.682,"body":"And I was with you for like most of the election."},{"startTime":508.40299999999996,"endTime":513.706,"body":"You know, I would check the betting markets and it's kind of my thing, right?"},{"startTime":514.667,"endTime":520.59,"body":"It is, but even then, you know, the betting markets were 80-20 for Hillary that night"},{"startTime":514.667,"endTime":520.59,"body":"that, you know, in 2016."},{"startTime":520.59,"endTime":523.8720000000001,"body":"it's like, it only goes so far, but."},{"startTime":524.7760000000001,"endTime":529.519,"body":"But then we know when our Mormons on Mushrooms Instagram got shut down."},{"startTime":529.519,"endTime":537.965,"body":"I've been on, I just, we've talked about this like either last episode or the one before,"},{"startTime":529.519,"endTime":537.965,"body":"just like how much I'm into TikTok lately."},{"startTime":538.6460000000001,"endTime":544.229,"body":"And I got sucked into a TikTok echo chamber."},{"startTime":544.61,"endTime":553.766,"body":"I was like, someone told me to check out this one woman's account and she gets on and she"},{"startTime":544.61,"endTime":553.766,"body":"talks about she's been tracking politics all her life and she's a..."},{"startTime":554.162,"endTime":561.015,"body":"strategists and all this and with so much confidence said, Kamala's got this thing."},{"startTime":561.115,"endTime":562.005,"body":"We got the numbers."},{"startTime":562.005,"endTime":563.516,"body":"I'm looking at early vote numbers."},{"startTime":563.516,"endTime":568.1,"body":"I'm looking at like, which just was so much confidence."},{"startTime":568.1,"endTime":569.198,"body":"I was like, damn."},{"startTime":569.198,"endTime":570.288,"body":"She's like, don't look at the polling."},{"startTime":570.288,"endTime":572.25,"body":"The polling's not capturing enthusiasm."},{"startTime":572.25,"endTime":579.042,"body":"There's things that polling can't capture because they have to determine a likely voter."},{"startTime":579.042,"endTime":583.4440000000001,"body":"And those assumptions change so much, especially in like times like this."},{"startTime":583.764,"endTime":591.224,"body":"So they're like, you know, so I let, I've been, I started listening to her and then all of"},{"startTime":583.764,"endTime":591.224,"body":"sudden the algorithm starts feeding me more like that."},{"startTime":591.224,"endTime":591.844,"body":"Right."},{"startTime":591.844,"endTime":598.1940000000001,"body":"And so over the last couple of weeks, I've accumulated like six or seven people who were"},{"startTime":591.844,"endTime":598.1940000000001,"body":"all saying the same thing."},{"startTime":598.1940000000001,"endTime":600.364,"body":"And they're all like, don't look at the polls."},{"startTime":600.364,"endTime":610.264,"body":"Like, even one was commenting because someone had commented on one of his videos that"},{"startTime":600.364,"endTime":610.264,"body":"like, but what about every, any given Sunday?"},{"startTime":610.4240000000001,"endTime":612.4440000000001,"body":"And he's like, yeah, that 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like,"},{"startTime":641.4920000000001,"endTime":643.2320000000001,"body":"I believed it man."},{"startTime":643.2320000000001,"endTime":645.072,"body":"And I was in it."},{"startTime":645.072,"endTime":646.8420000000001,"body":"To me they were making good points."},{"startTime":646.8420000000001,"endTime":657.2320000000001,"body":"I was like, so clearly I found myself in a TikTok echo chamber."},{"startTime":658.8660000000001,"endTime":661.586,"body":"Yeah, you and I talked about that today, should we?"},{"startTime":661.586,"endTime":663.566,"body":"I like, I..."},{"startTime":663.566,"endTime":667.6260000000001,"body":"I mean, is social media..."},{"startTime":669.4580000000001,"endTime":671.5680000000001,"body":"destroying us as human beings."},{"startTime":678.1840000000001,"endTime":680.676,"body":"I know, I think we're getting sucked into it."},{"startTime":680.676,"endTime":681.326,"body":"think it's new."},{"startTime":681.326,"endTime":686.7900000000001,"body":"I think we're 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we're learning different things."},{"startTime":717.1890000000001,"endTime":719.1700000000001,"body":"And is that too optimistic to say?"},{"startTime":719.671,"endTime":725.1360000000001,"body":"That I think we're learning about echo chambers and I don't know."},{"startTime":725.898,"endTime":727.2990000000001,"body":"I don't know if we are."},{"startTime":728.0360000000001,"endTime":732.034,"body":"I mean, it's just you and me talking here, Mike."},{"startTime":732.4770000000001,"endTime":737.5680000000001,"body":"Have you and I learned from inserting ourselves into echo chambers?"},{"startTime":737.6160000000001,"endTime":739.0360000000001,"body":"No, I just got into one."},{"startTime":739.0360000000001,"endTime":740.408,"body":"I found myself in one."},{"startTime":740.408,"endTime":741.389,"body":"me too."},{"startTime":741.993,"endTime":742.894,"body":"Me too."},{"startTime":743.571,"endTime":744.3760000000001,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":748.1560000000001,"endTime":749.13,"body":"Sorry, go ahead."},{"startTime":749.8330000000001,"endTime":762.0110000000001,"body":"I was just going to say, I noticed it yesterday too, when, cause someone, one of these"},{"startTime":749.8330000000001,"endTime":762.0110000000001,"body":"people I was talking about posted some tweet that like, whatever you call it now on that"},{"startTime":762.0110000000001,"endTime":773.134,"body":"fucking platform, posted like, kind of like all men get out and vote and kind of, you"},{"startTime":762.0110000000001,"endTime":773.134,"body":"know, a request for all men to get on vote."},{"startTime":773.354,"endTime":779.4960000000001,"body":"And one of, one these Trump guys and the lady I was following on, on TikTok was like,"},{"startTime":779.4960000000001,"endTime":780.9970000000001,"body":"Look, they're melting down."},{"startTime":780.9970000000001,"endTime":782.048,"body":"They're already melting down."},{"startTime":782.048,"endTime":783.879,"body":"They know they don't have the vote."},{"startTime":784.0390000000001,"endTime":787.782,"body":"So I decided to go over to X to see for myself."},{"startTime":788.3820000000001,"endTime":794.787,"body":"Found that post, but no, he had so many other posts of like, it was like the flip of what"},{"startTime":788.3820000000001,"endTime":794.787,"body":"I was seeing."},{"startTime":794.787,"endTime":801.392,"body":"So I was seeing all these videos of women crying after they voted saying, you guys won't"},{"startTime":794.787,"endTime":801.392,"body":"believe it."},{"startTime":801.392,"endTime":802.533,"body":"I was there in line."},{"startTime":802.533,"endTime":807.5920000000001,"body":"I've been the reddest county in Indiana and"},{"startTime":807.5920000000001,"endTime":809.863,"body":"People were giving me thumbs up, people were wearing blue."},{"startTime":809.863,"endTime":811.754,"body":"I've never seen women get out and vote like this."},{"startTime":811.754,"endTime":812.974,"body":"I've never seen that."},{"startTime":813.6550000000001,"endTime":825.1690000000001,"body":"And then I'm over on X and this guy's posting pictures of men in line, like lines just"},{"startTime":813.6550000000001,"endTime":825.1690000000001,"body":"with like mostly men in the line saying kind of, look, look at this guys."},{"startTime":825.1690000000001,"endTime":826.219,"body":"got this."},{"startTime":826.5400000000001,"endTime":837.0740000000001,"body":"But by the way, if you are a white man and you are excited because so many other white men"},{"startTime":826.5400000000001,"endTime":837.0740000000001,"body":"are voting in an election,"},{"startTime":837.4480000000001,"endTime":838.4490000000001,"body":"Fuck you."},{"startTime":840.2950000000001,"endTime":845.9970000000001,"body":"but for me it was that I'm like, shit, I'm seeing the other side of the echo chamber right"},{"startTime":840.2950000000001,"endTime":845.9970000000001,"body":"here."},{"startTime":848.658,"endTime":864.5590000000001,"body":"So I spent a big portion of last night and this morning talking to my talking to the women"},{"startTime":848.658,"endTime":864.5590000000001,"body":"that matter most to me in my life and talking about to the queer people that matter most"},{"startTime":864.5590000000001,"endTime":865.71,"body":"to me in my life."},{"startTime":867.736,"endTime":874.2130000000001,"body":"And that's a pretty tough conversation because like,"},{"startTime":876.0160000000001,"endTime":878.2750000000001,"body":"I'm gonna be okay."},{"startTime":879.984,"endTime":883.139,"body":"Nothing's being taken away from me, you know?"},{"startTime":884.2620000000001,"endTime":888.97,"body":"Even in the most, even in the most..."},{"startTime":890.538,"endTime":903.8720000000001,"body":"wild speculative world of the Republicans won the presidency, the House, the Senate, and"},{"startTime":890.538,"endTime":903.8720000000001,"body":"they have control of the Supreme Court, which is currently accurate."},{"startTime":906.422,"endTime":912.416,"body":"Even there, whatever they want to do, I'm okay."},{"startTime":912.416,"endTime":918.481,"body":"You know what mean?"},{"startTime":918.481,"endTime":935.172,"body":"The problem is the way we've radicalized the idea of wokeness, the way we've radicalized"},{"startTime":918.481,"endTime":935.172,"body":"the idea of the fragile male ego."},{"startTime":936.668,"endTime":944.9540000000001,"body":"the way that we have access to things like X and TikTok and Snapchat and Instagram."},{"startTime":944.9540000000001,"endTime":946.465,"body":"Like here's the thing, bro."},{"startTime":946.465,"endTime":949.1170000000001,"body":"It used to be like, I've used this example before."},{"startTime":949.1170000000001,"endTime":950.7280000000001,"body":"I'm gonna use it again because I think it's important."},{"startTime":950.7280000000001,"endTime":964.037,"body":"Like it used to be when you were a kid and there was no internet, there was like this"},{"startTime":950.7280000000001,"endTime":964.037,"body":"weird guy in your neighborhood who might've been a pedophile, might've been like a sort of"},{"startTime":964.037,"endTime":966.13,"body":"like homebound"},{"startTime":966.13,"endTime":969.4200000000001,"body":"couldn't actually get a real job."},{"startTime":969.4630000000001,"endTime":971.84,"body":"There was this one guy in your neighborhood."},{"startTime":973.522,"endTime":975.7420000000001,"body":"who was just weird, you know?"},{"startTime":976.142,"endTime":980.522,"body":"And every like little, every few months this guy would write up a manifesto."},{"startTime":980.522,"endTime":982.922,"body":"He would like type it on his fucking typewriter."},{"startTime":982.922,"endTime":990.7220000000001,"body":"know, he'd clickety clack up this little manifesto and he'd make copies of it at the local"},{"startTime":982.922,"endTime":990.7220000000001,"body":"Kinkos."},{"startTime":990.7220000000001,"endTime":991.642,"body":"Remember Kinkos?"},{"startTime":991.642,"endTime":994.532,"body":"That doesn't exist anymore because we can all print our own fucking shit."},{"startTime":994.532,"endTime":996.3720000000001,"body":"And also who's printing paper anymore?"},{"startTime":996.3720000000001,"endTime":996.8620000000001,"body":"Do you know what I mean?"},{"startTime":996.8620000000001,"endTime":998.782,"body":"You just like send it out on email."},{"startTime":998.782,"endTime":1000.8420000000001,"body":"But there used to be a guy who did that shit guys."},{"startTime":1000.8420000000001,"endTime":1002.3140000000001,"body":"Like everybody who's listening to this."},{"startTime":1002.428,"endTime":1009.874,"body":"There used to be a guy in every neighborhood who printed out a weird newsletter and it was"},{"startTime":1002.428,"endTime":1009.874,"body":"like kind of his manifesto about like, I'm crazy."},{"startTime":1010.214,"endTime":1016.95,"body":"we, you know, the work, earth is flat and, here's some other real crazy shit I've, I"},{"startTime":1010.214,"endTime":1016.95,"body":"believe."},{"startTime":1016.95,"endTime":1018.101,"body":"And he would go door to door."},{"startTime":1018.101,"endTime":1031.302,"body":"would, he would like leave it in your like door jam, you know, and everybody Republican"},{"startTime":1018.101,"endTime":1031.302,"body":"Democrat and everything in between in the eighties and nineties would be like old Brad."},{"startTime":1031.302,"endTime":1033.203,"body":"What a crazy motherfucker."},{"startTime":1033.203,"endTime":1034.244,"body":"That's what we would say."},{"startTime":1034.244,"endTime":1037.768,"body":"We would just be like, that guy has no say in American politics."},{"startTime":1037.768,"endTime":1039.769,"body":"He's just a fucking nut."},{"startTime":1040.65,"endTime":1048.796,"body":"But the internet brought together every single Brad in every single neighborhood and they"},{"startTime":1040.65,"endTime":1048.796,"body":"created a community about it."},{"startTime":1048.817,"endTime":1051.809,"body":"They created 4chan and they create Jesus Christ."},{"startTime":1051.809,"endTime":1058.885,"body":"Elon Musk is the richest guy on planet earth and he is the Elon Musk is the king of the"},{"startTime":1051.809,"endTime":1058.885,"body":"incels."},{"startTime":1058.885,"endTime":1060.092,"body":"He's the king of the"},{"startTime":1060.092,"endTime":1071.645,"body":"conspiracy theory nerd who still can't bro you are the richest person on planet earth and"},{"startTime":1060.092,"endTime":1071.645,"body":"you still can't get a girl you are a fucking dork you're a fucking nerd is what Elon Musk"},{"startTime":1071.645,"endTime":1083.6290000000001,"body":"is I Elon Musk I hope you're monitoring this shit I hope you have like robots that are"},{"startTime":1071.645,"endTime":1083.6290000000001,"body":"monitoring this you are a fucking nerd bro sorry like good job on PayPal way to make your"},{"startTime":1083.6290000000001,"endTime":1088.72,"body":"money using your mom and dad's emerald mine that they that they"},{"startTime":1088.856,"endTime":1096.6190000000001,"body":"seized control of in South Africa during apartheid and then made you rich, gave you this"},{"startTime":1088.856,"endTime":1096.6190000000001,"body":"opportunity to come to America."},{"startTime":1096.6190000000001,"endTime":1104.112,"body":"illegal immigrant, cocksucking bastard who is partaking in American politics."},{"startTime":1104.352,"endTime":1107.413,"body":"You're a fucking nerd, bro."},{"startTime":1107.7340000000002,"endTime":1110.025,"body":"You use that money to invest in PayPal."},{"startTime":1110.025,"endTime":1111.605,"body":"You haven't ever written code in your life."},{"startTime":1111.605,"endTime":1113.6760000000002,"body":"You haven't ever done shit in your life."},{"startTime":1113.796,"endTime":1118.662,"body":"You made your billions because you said Tesla is going to be like,"},{"startTime":1118.662,"endTime":1121.365,"body":"the green energy solution."},{"startTime":1121.365,"endTime":1126.73,"body":"You made your billions because people believed in you when you were talking about like,"},{"startTime":1121.365,"endTime":1126.73,"body":"let's actually change the world."},{"startTime":1126.73,"endTime":1129.403,"body":"Let's actually try to make the world a little more efficient."},{"startTime":1129.403,"endTime":1131.0040000000001,"body":"Let's try to make the world a little more convenient."},{"startTime":1131.0040000000001,"endTime":1132.9560000000001,"body":"Let's try to save the planet Earth."},{"startTime":1132.9560000000001,"endTime":1136.98,"body":"You sold your soul so you could do jumping jacks as goth MAGA."},{"startTime":1136.98,"endTime":1138.662,"body":"You fucking dweeb."},{"startTime":1138.662,"endTime":1140.463,"body":"Holy shit, I'm embarrassed for you."},{"startTime":1140.463,"endTime":1143.506,"body":"You're the richest guy on earth and I'm embarrassed for you, bro."},{"startTime":1143.742,"endTime":1146.57,"body":"Dark MAGA hat man, like what the, that was just..."},{"startTime":1146.57,"endTime":1150.18,"body":"am Natalie Maga, I am Darkgoth Maga."},{"startTime":1150.18,"endTime":1151.81,"body":"You're a fucking geek."},{"startTime":1151.81,"endTime":1155.53,"body":"Like leave me the fuck alone, you weirdo."},{"startTime":1155.53,"endTime":1157.53,"body":"Is what I feel about Elon Musk."},{"startTime":1157.53,"endTime":1165.53,"body":"And I, by the way, I hate on the internet people who go on Twitter and shit on Elon Musk."},{"startTime":1165.53,"endTime":1168.13,"body":"Get the fuck off Twitter, assholes."},{"startTime":1168.13,"endTime":1169.99,"body":"He owns it."},{"startTime":1169.99,"endTime":1171.93,"body":"Get off Twitter."},{"startTime":1172.47,"endTime":1176.104,"body":"B, I deeply"},{"startTime":1176.198,"endTime":1179.391,"body":"deeply have a problem with this part that I'm about to say."},{"startTime":1179.391,"endTime":1180.121,"body":"all the things."},{"startTime":1180.121,"endTime":1189.608,"body":"So people that call him Leon or Elmo or any other version of his name, it's that same"},{"startTime":1180.121,"endTime":1189.608,"body":"thing that I feel like Trump did to like Kamala."},{"startTime":1189.769,"endTime":1201.348,"body":"Calling her Kamala, calling her Kamala, like intentionally using the wrong name to like"},{"startTime":1189.769,"endTime":1201.348,"body":"somehow, somehow like, I guess, insult her."},{"startTime":1202.108,"endTime":1211.8310000000001,"body":"People who on my side of the aisle who call Elon some version of his name, Leon, Elmo,"},{"startTime":1202.108,"endTime":1211.8310000000001,"body":"blah blah blah blah blah blah, you're not clever, you're not cute, you're not doing"},{"startTime":1211.8310000000001,"endTime":1212.521,"body":"anything."},{"startTime":1212.521,"endTime":1218.182,"body":"Call him by his real name, he's a fucking villain, his name is Elon Reeves Musk."},{"startTime":1218.182,"endTime":1219.103,"body":"You're a villain."},{"startTime":1219.103,"endTime":1221.5130000000001,"body":"You're a James Bond level villain."},{"startTime":1221.5130000000001,"endTime":1223.584,"body":"You're the richest guy on planet Earth."},{"startTime":1223.904,"endTime":1231.566,"body":"Tell me a version of a dystopian future that involves the richest guy on Earth being on"},{"startTime":1223.904,"endTime":1231.566,"body":"the right side of history."},{"startTime":1231.836,"endTime":1232.9070000000002,"body":"Tell me a version of that."},{"startTime":1232.9070000000002,"endTime":1233.797,"body":"Tell me the matrix."},{"startTime":1233.797,"endTime":1234.798,"body":"Tell me Mad Max."},{"startTime":1234.798,"endTime":1235.989,"body":"Tell me, tell me anything."},{"startTime":1235.989,"endTime":1238.15,"body":"You fucking idiot."},{"startTime":1238.15,"endTime":1238.8110000000001,"body":"Sorry, Mike."},{"startTime":1238.8110000000001,"endTime":1245.034,"body":"I know I'm like, I'm pissed tonight, but like Elon Musk paid for votes."},{"startTime":1245.395,"endTime":1252.5800000000002,"body":"His criminal mother went on the fucking circuit and like talked about the American"},{"startTime":1245.395,"endTime":1252.5800000000002,"body":"political system."},{"startTime":1252.5800000000002,"endTime":1257.213,"body":"I don't need South Africans who yearn for apartheid."},{"startTime":1257.213,"endTime":1261.904,"body":"The good old days of separate, like of, of, of racism."},{"startTime":1261.904,"endTime":1266.9070000000002,"body":"like legal racism, I don't need them influence American politics."},{"startTime":1266.9070000000002,"endTime":1280.934,"body":"And I certainly don't need them influencing the, the marginalized 18 to 30 year old man"},{"startTime":1266.9070000000002,"endTime":1280.934,"body":"who can't get a girl because they stink and they don't know how to like interact with"},{"startTime":1280.934,"endTime":1281.645,"body":"women."},{"startTime":1281.645,"endTime":1284.066,"body":"Therefore voting against women's rights."},{"startTime":1284.066,"endTime":1284.906,"body":"I don't need those."},{"startTime":1284.906,"endTime":1286.587,"body":"I don't need those motherfuckers, dude."},{"startTime":1286.587,"endTime":1291.73,"body":"like, I, sorry, dude, I like they, they,"},{"startTime":1292.208,"endTime":1302.413,"body":"I got, they got no value to me and that's what the world, that's who's voting and all you,"},{"startTime":1292.208,"endTime":1302.413,"body":"all you motherfuckers that didn't go vote, you're the problem."},{"startTime":1302.413,"endTime":1303.594,"body":"You're part of the problem."},{"startTime":1305.328,"endTime":1308.63,"body":"Man, I might be, this might be our last episode."},{"startTime":1310.538,"endTime":1318.082,"body":"maybe, but it's the fall of humanity anyway, Yeah, so how do you really feel, Doug, about"},{"startTime":1310.538,"endTime":1318.082,"body":"everything?"},{"startTime":1318.6100000000001,"endTime":1320.3310000000001,"body":"I'm sorry, dude."},{"startTime":1320.613,"endTime":1322.115,"body":"I'm so sorry, Mike."},{"startTime":1322.115,"endTime":1326.76,"body":"Should we just cut the recording and just chat you and me to do a therapy session?"},{"startTime":1326.76,"endTime":1328.02,"body":"Or is this okay to?"},{"startTime":1328.02,"endTime":1329.601,"body":"No, I think this is great to have on there."},{"startTime":1329.601,"endTime":1331.171,"body":"I'm not saying we should not do it."},{"startTime":1331.171,"endTime":1338.262,"body":"just, yeah, I just, it's, I'm, I'm confused."},{"startTime":1338.262,"endTime":1338.9850000000001,"body":"I'm baffled."},{"startTime":1338.9850000000001,"endTime":1349.009,"body":"and I, and maybe it cause I was expecting, well, I got swept up in the moment of, you"},{"startTime":1338.9850000000001,"endTime":1349.009,"body":"know, Monday night I'm watching, her rally."},{"startTime":1349.1090000000002,"endTime":1352.034,"body":"Kamala's, Kamala blah, blah, Kamala blah, blah."},{"startTime":1352.034,"endTime":1357.136,"body":"Yeah, you're very cute everyone who pronounces her name wrong."},{"startTime":1357.136,"endTime":1358.757,"body":"It's super easy."},{"startTime":1358.757,"endTime":1362.508,"body":"Everyone on the planet Earth knows how to say the word comma, comma-la."},{"startTime":1362.508,"endTime":1372.923,"body":"Like it's easy to Motherfuckers who want to intentionally insult her are just expressing"},{"startTime":1362.508,"endTime":1372.923,"body":"their A, sexism, and their B, racism."},{"startTime":1372.923,"endTime":1381.442,"body":"I told you, dude, Mike, I don't mean to, I never mean to say I told you so, but I told you"},{"startTime":1372.923,"endTime":1381.442,"body":"that this election was gonna prove how deeply"},{"startTime":1381.442,"endTime":1384.165,"body":"sexist slash racist America is."},{"startTime":1385.307,"endTime":1387.029,"body":"There's no other reason to vote for Donald Trump."},{"startTime":1387.029,"endTime":1387.836,"body":"No other reason."},{"startTime":1387.836,"endTime":1392.555,"body":"People who want to get into economics, go ahead and text me at my fucking phone number."},{"startTime":1392.555,"endTime":1394.6770000000001,"body":"I know economics better than you do."},{"startTime":1394.6770000000001,"endTime":1396.229,"body":"Sorry, I got a master's degree in it."},{"startTime":1396.229,"endTime":1398.422,"body":"Like don't talk to me about the economy."},{"startTime":1398.422,"endTime":1399.944,"body":"You fucking idiots."},{"startTime":1399.944,"endTime":1401.765,"body":"Sorry, Mike, I should shut up."},{"startTime":1401.765,"endTime":1402.29,"body":"Go ahead."},{"startTime":1402.29,"endTime":1403.145,"body":"You"},{"startTime":1407.916,"endTime":1408.868,"body":"I go ahead."},{"startTime":1408.868,"endTime":1409.865,"body":"was, I lost my train of thought."},{"startTime":1409.865,"endTime":1411.1100000000001,"body":"What was I talking about?"},{"startTime":1411.1100000000001,"endTime":1413.281,"body":"I feel like I am such an asshole dude."},{"startTime":1413.281,"endTime":1427.255,"body":"I'm sorry like I am I am tirading and I don't mean to I I just I guess a lot of things are"},{"startTime":1413.281,"endTime":1427.255,"body":"still built like pent up inside of me about About not like like like people who are like"},{"startTime":1427.255,"endTime":1431.796,"body":"open about like here's the thing I think that there should be a patriarchal order."},{"startTime":1431.796,"endTime":1438.778,"body":"I think that Christ is king I think that women are our secondary citizens to men."},{"startTime":1438.778,"endTime":1439.556,"body":"I think that"},{"startTime":1439.556,"endTime":1449.531,"body":"minorities, especially of skin tone and color and ethnicity, are secondary to white,"},{"startTime":1439.556,"endTime":1449.531,"body":"imperial men."},{"startTime":1450.0320000000002,"endTime":1450.752,"body":"Fine."},{"startTime":1450.752,"endTime":1455.405,"body":"Vote the way you need to vote to like to to like make up for your small dick."},{"startTime":1455.405,"endTime":1456.135,"body":"Like, I get it."},{"startTime":1456.135,"endTime":1457.916,"body":"You got to do what you got to do."},{"startTime":1457.916,"endTime":1464.099,"body":"But like the people who are like, well, my parents raised me to be a Republican."},{"startTime":1464.099,"endTime":1465.88,"body":"like, what do what do you think that even means?"},{"startTime":1465.88,"endTime":1468.602,"body":"Like, what do you think that even means in your mind?"},{"startTime":1468.602,"endTime":1469.622,"body":"Was that mean?"},{"startTime":1469.689,"endTime":1470.049,"body":"Same."},{"startTime":1470.049,"endTime":1471.349,"body":"My parents are the same."},{"startTime":1471.349,"endTime":1477.231,"body":"was, I was bred, born and bred to be a Republican and a Mormon."},{"startTime":1477.471,"endTime":1489.996,"body":"And then I had an experience where I'm like, wait, the world isn't like I was taught it"},{"startTime":1477.471,"endTime":1489.996,"body":"was."},{"startTime":1491.6860000000001,"endTime":1494.517,"body":"And instead of like, wait, this world is different."},{"startTime":1494.517,"endTime":1499.9180000000001,"body":"And instead of doubling down on that shit and being like, wait, no, I'm going to like,"},{"startTime":1494.517,"endTime":1499.9180000000001,"body":"blah, blah, blah, blah, put my fingers in my ear."},{"startTime":1499.9180000000001,"endTime":1507.7,"body":"I'm like, let me get curious about this because this is clearly not how I was taught the"},{"startTime":1499.9180000000001,"endTime":1507.7,"body":"world exists."},{"startTime":1508.621,"endTime":1512.002,"body":"And, and ironically that occurred to me on my Mormon mission."},{"startTime":1512.002,"endTime":1520.4840000000002,"body":"So I was on a Mormon mission, but I went to Brazil and found, I was in these dirt poor"},{"startTime":1512.002,"endTime":1520.4840000000002,"body":"areas and they were,"},{"startTime":1521.544,"endTime":1523.164,"body":"so much more content."},{"startTime":1523.865,"endTime":1542.7930000000001,"body":"And here I was preaching happiness and I was depressed as fuck, anxious as fuck, not"},{"startTime":1523.865,"endTime":1542.7930000000001,"body":"feeling happy, doing everything right from a wealthy white family in Utah, privileged"},{"startTime":1542.7930000000001,"endTime":1543.493,"body":"family."},{"startTime":1543.493,"endTime":1551.506,"body":"Here I am and their lives are more full and rich and here I am being like, hey, can I"},{"startTime":1543.493,"endTime":1551.506,"body":"teach you the plan of happiness?"},{"startTime":1552.5,"endTime":1557.14,"body":"All of sudden, it's called that."},{"startTime":1557.14,"endTime":1559.7,"body":"So, hey, you guys, see you guys are happy."},{"startTime":1559.7,"endTime":1562.8400000000001,"body":"You've got friends, you're loving life, you know."},{"startTime":1562.8400000000001,"endTime":1566.14,"body":"And here, let me tell you how to be happy."},{"startTime":1566.243,"endTime":1567.736,"body":"Would you like to know how to really be happy?"},{"startTime":1567.736,"endTime":1570.211,"body":"I know you have like literal carnival."},{"startTime":1570.211,"endTime":1573.256,"body":"You're like a pretty fucking happy people frankly."},{"startTime":1575.432,"endTime":1587.641,"body":"So when that happened to me, instead of just doubling down and being like, well, no, you"},{"startTime":1575.432,"endTime":1587.641,"body":"grow the fuck up and you say, this world's a big place."},{"startTime":1587.8220000000001,"endTime":1592.265,"body":"And maybe I should get a little curious about this world."},{"startTime":1593.226,"endTime":1597.079,"body":"And yeah, it comes with like, it's completely disorienting."},{"startTime":1597.079,"endTime":1599.31,"body":"Your whole world flips upside down."},{"startTime":1600.192,"endTime":1601.222,"body":"But like,"},{"startTime":1602.982,"endTime":1604.57,"body":"Yeah, grow up."},{"startTime":1604.57,"endTime":1605.555,"body":"What?"},{"startTime":1605.555,"endTime":1606.553,"body":"You're laughing over there."},{"startTime":1606.553,"endTime":1608.284,"body":"dude, is such a good..."},{"startTime":1608.806,"endTime":1614.182,"body":"Mike, I just feel like I want to get more detailed about my critique of the American"},{"startTime":1608.806,"endTime":1614.182,"body":"political system."},{"startTime":1614.182,"endTime":1616.554,"body":"May I?"},{"startTime":1616.8400000000001,"endTime":1619.284,"body":"Yeah, I think get into the nitty-gritty."},{"startTime":1619.284,"endTime":1621.018,"body":"I mean, it's it's who cares now."},{"startTime":1621.018,"endTime":1622.451,"body":"So maybe I shouldn't talk more."},{"startTime":1622.451,"endTime":1625.848,"body":"Should I just shut my fucking mouth and let's talk about doing drugs?"},{"startTime":1627.2820000000002,"endTime":1630.2540000000001,"body":"No, I've got no, yeah."},{"startTime":1630.2540000000001,"endTime":1639.794,"body":"to talk about a couple of things because there are people that say like, listen, I'm not a"},{"startTime":1630.2540000000001,"endTime":1639.794,"body":"racist, I'm not a sexist, I'm not a bigot, I'm just voting on basic economic principles."},{"startTime":1639.794,"endTime":1642.2340000000002,"body":"I'm voting on Indian inflation."},{"startTime":1643.0140000000001,"endTime":1649.614,"body":"Things are more expensive now than they were today when they were in Trump's reign, the"},{"startTime":1643.0140000000001,"endTime":1649.614,"body":"economy, blah, blah, blah."},{"startTime":1649.614,"endTime":1651.294,"body":"Here's the thing."},{"startTime":1652.074,"endTime":1653.414,"body":"No, no, that's true."},{"startTime":1656.114,"endTime":1665.884,"body":"If you use the market, which is a really bad indicator of economic prosperity, the market"},{"startTime":1656.114,"endTime":1665.884,"body":"is at all time highs right now."},{"startTime":1665.884,"endTime":1667.394,"body":"When I say the market, I'm talking about the stock market."},{"startTime":1667.394,"endTime":1674.214,"body":"I'm talking about like the S \u0026P 500, the Dow Jones Industrial, the NASDAQ, like every"},{"startTime":1667.394,"endTime":1674.214,"body":"indicator."},{"startTime":1674.214,"endTime":1676.374,"body":"And that includes precious metals."},{"startTime":1676.374,"endTime":1685.194,"body":"mean, every indicator is at all time highs under the Joe Biden economy, right?"},{"startTime":1686.406,"endTime":1690.809,"body":"But that's not a very good indicator of economic growth and stability."},{"startTime":1690.809,"endTime":1701.336,"body":"Things that are good indicators of economic stability are the metrics that we use for"},{"startTime":1690.809,"endTime":1701.336,"body":"gauging inflation."},{"startTime":1701.336,"endTime":1704.838,"body":"those are things like GDP."},{"startTime":1704.919,"endTime":1707.05,"body":"When I say GDP, mean gross domestic product."},{"startTime":1707.05,"endTime":1716.39,"body":"What I mean by GDP, for those of you who are not economists, that is what we produce."},{"startTime":1716.39,"endTime":1720.9750000000001,"body":"that creates value in this country."},{"startTime":1721.817,"endTime":1723.3780000000002,"body":"That's what GDP means."},{"startTime":1723.8400000000001,"endTime":1732.4,"body":"So if you sell something that you produced and generated from this country, that adds to"},{"startTime":1723.8400000000001,"endTime":1732.4,"body":"GDP."},{"startTime":1734.14,"endTime":1740.432,"body":"The other thing is employment."},{"startTime":1741.332,"endTime":1746.613,"body":"We have historically low unemployment numbers, historically low unemployment numbers."},{"startTime":1746.613,"endTime":1762.098,"body":"To the point where we need to have a better accounting of unemployment numbers because"},{"startTime":1746.613,"endTime":1762.098,"body":"that doesn't really truthfully reflect people who have become accustomed to having a side"},{"startTime":1762.098,"endTime":1763.346,"body":"hustle and being"},{"startTime":1763.346,"endTime":1771.303,"body":"partially employed or people who are not looking for employment and have removed"},{"startTime":1763.346,"endTime":1771.303,"body":"themselves from the job market and are doing gig economy type of things."},{"startTime":1771.303,"endTime":1775.957,"body":"When I say gig economy, I'm talking about like DoorDash, Uber, Lyft, that kind of thing."},{"startTime":1776.298,"endTime":1786.9270000000001,"body":"So those are pretty fairly accurate indicators of economic development and people who want"},{"startTime":1776.298,"endTime":1786.9270000000001,"body":"to say like, well, the economy was better under Trump."},{"startTime":1786.9270000000001,"endTime":1787.948,"body":"You're just wrong."},{"startTime":1787.948,"endTime":1789.589,"body":"You're just wrong."},{"startTime":1790.506,"endTime":1793.289,"body":"It's not an opinion, it's not a subjective thing."},{"startTime":1793.289,"endTime":1798.973,"body":"You're just fucking wrong and you don't understand how markets work, how a free market"},{"startTime":1793.289,"endTime":1798.973,"body":"works."},{"startTime":1798.973,"endTime":1804.1580000000001,"body":"People want to talk about, I like laissez-faire free market economics."},{"startTime":1804.1580000000001,"endTime":1805.709,"body":"Okay, that's cool, man."},{"startTime":1805.709,"endTime":1806.349,"body":"Let's do it."},{"startTime":1806.349,"endTime":1811.804,"body":"Let's see how the free market treats some of these capitalists who cheat the American"},{"startTime":1806.349,"endTime":1811.804,"body":"consumer."},{"startTime":1811.824,"endTime":1819.31,"body":"Well, we have backstops in place to protect these fucking cheaters from defrauding."},{"startTime":1819.344,"endTime":1820.894,"body":"the American consumer."},{"startTime":1820.894,"endTime":1827.096,"body":"But we're going to still get into it and say, what about how the price of groceries, what"},{"startTime":1820.894,"endTime":1827.096,"body":"about inflation?"},{"startTime":1827.096,"endTime":1829.1770000000001,"body":"What about inflation as a thing?"},{"startTime":1829.317,"endTime":1830.397,"body":"Cool, man."},{"startTime":1830.577,"endTime":1836.499,"body":"Inflation, a lot of people think the price of my gas and groceries has gone up."},{"startTime":1836.499,"endTime":1839.419,"body":"The price of my gas and groceries has gone up."},{"startTime":1839.419,"endTime":1847.722,"body":"No, inflation measures the value of the $1, like the value of the United States dollar."},{"startTime":1849.036,"endTime":1853.77,"body":"That only counts here in America because that's the currency that we use as our national"},{"startTime":1849.036,"endTime":1853.77,"body":"currency."},{"startTime":1853.771,"endTime":1861.279,"body":"It can be something different in Russia, Brazil, Taiwan, China, know, inflation exists."},{"startTime":1861.279,"endTime":1871.709,"body":"Now, global inflation has been a problem ever since our whole global economy shut down"},{"startTime":1861.279,"endTime":1871.709,"body":"because of the COVID-19 pandemic."},{"startTime":1872.3700000000001,"endTime":1874.722,"body":"Whether you believe that that was a thing or not doesn't matter."},{"startTime":1874.722,"endTime":1876.7740000000001,"body":"It does not matter at all, actually."},{"startTime":1876.7740000000001,"endTime":1877.4940000000001,"body":"Like, good on you."},{"startTime":1877.4940000000001,"endTime":1880.857,"body":"If you believe that it was a hoax, if you believe that it was a whole thing, fine."},{"startTime":1880.857,"endTime":1881.508,"body":"Good on you."},{"startTime":1881.508,"endTime":1881.998,"body":"I love you."},{"startTime":1881.998,"endTime":1883.279,"body":"You're my best friend."},{"startTime":1884.3600000000001,"endTime":1895.89,"body":"You can't deny that it shut down the economy and that the American political system, under"},{"startTime":1884.3600000000001,"endTime":1895.89,"body":"Donald Trump actually, by the way, issued what we call stimulus checks."},{"startTime":1895.89,"endTime":1898.204,"body":"Remember the whole thing, where you got stimulus checks?"},{"startTime":1898.204,"endTime":1899.307,"body":"I got some."},{"startTime":1900.506,"endTime":1909.892,"body":"So there's a thing that happens when you just inject new money into the economy."},{"startTime":1914.559,"endTime":1920.355,"body":"When you create more dollar bills, you devalue the number of dollar bills that are out"},{"startTime":1914.559,"endTime":1920.355,"body":"there."},{"startTime":1920.355,"endTime":1922.727,"body":"That's just math."},{"startTime":1923.068,"endTime":1934.6000000000001,"body":"If there's 100 dollar bills and you create 10 more dollar bills, you have devalued those"},{"startTime":1923.068,"endTime":1934.6000000000001,"body":"100 dollar bills by 10%."},{"startTime":1934.6000000000001,"endTime":1937.402,"body":"That is just how that works."},{"startTime":1939.27,"endTime":1941.57,"body":"And we did that a bunch of times."},{"startTime":1941.991,"endTime":1953.914,"body":"We injected cash into the free market, not only into people's bank accounts, but also we"},{"startTime":1941.991,"endTime":1953.914,"body":"did this thing that's called, it used to be called quantitative easing, but that's illegal"},{"startTime":1953.914,"endTime":1955.624,"body":"under the United States government."},{"startTime":1955.624,"endTime":1957.325,"body":"So now we just call it a different thing."},{"startTime":1957.325,"endTime":1958.566,"body":"We don't call it quantitative easing anymore."},{"startTime":1958.566,"endTime":1963.797,"body":"We just call it repos, which is the Federal Reserve buys stocks."},{"startTime":1964.137,"endTime":1965.057,"body":"They buy them nightly."},{"startTime":1965.057,"endTime":1966.938,"body":"They inject cash into the market using"},{"startTime":1966.938,"endTime":1969.5720000000001,"body":"in invented money that doesn't exist."},{"startTime":1969.5720000000001,"endTime":1972.047,"body":"just buy stocks and then they resell them in the morning."},{"startTime":1972.047,"endTime":1974.3500000000001,"body":"That props up the value of stocks."},{"startTime":1975.954,"endTime":1976.834,"body":"Is this the most boring?"},{"startTime":1976.834,"endTime":1981.194,"body":"This might be the most boring conversation we've ever had on this on this podcast."},{"startTime":1981.454,"endTime":1984.074,"body":"This might be the most boring conversation we've ever had on the podcast."},{"startTime":1984.074,"endTime":1985.914,"body":"And I'm OK."},{"startTime":1985.914,"endTime":1994.174,"body":"I'm OK owning that because so many people have tuned out or don't care or don't listen"},{"startTime":1985.914,"endTime":1994.174,"body":"because of how boring it is."},{"startTime":1994.174,"endTime":1997.554,"body":"And yet this is the thing that motherfuckers wanted to try to vote on."},{"startTime":1997.554,"endTime":1999.2740000000001,"body":"And you're fucking wrong."},{"startTime":1999.2740000000001,"endTime":2000.174,"body":"You're dead wrong."},{"startTime":2000.174,"endTime":2003.074,"body":"You're just wrong about how how it works."},{"startTime":2003.189,"endTime":2009.15,"body":"so I was even on CNN this morning and they had two things that really bugged me."},{"startTime":2009.19,"endTime":2013.131,"body":"One was it was the economy, stupid."},{"startTime":2013.131,"endTime":2014.5510000000002,"body":"Kind of like that was the reason."},{"startTime":2014.5510000000002,"endTime":2018.612,"body":"Like the reason Trump won or the issue that he won on was the economy."},{"startTime":2018.612,"endTime":2020.983,"body":"No, that's just the excuse the exit voters gave."},{"startTime":2020.983,"endTime":2025.2540000000001,"body":"Cause what are they supposed to say when they, I'm scared of women."},{"startTime":2025.2540000000001,"endTime":2029.915,"body":"I'm sexist, I'm misogynistic, I'm a racist."},{"startTime":2029.971,"endTime":2031.382,"body":"They're not going to say that in an exit poll."},{"startTime":2031.382,"endTime":2033.0520000000001,"body":"So they say economy."},{"startTime":2033.893,"endTime":2040.776,"body":"And then the second one was what, where did Kamala Harris go wrong?"},{"startTime":2041.276,"endTime":2044.798,"body":"Did she ran a flawless campaign?"},{"startTime":2044.818,"endTime":2051.941,"body":"from, I mean, joining the race in what July to there to like, I mean, it was flawless."},{"startTime":2051.941,"endTime":2055.863,"body":"Where she went wrong was she was born with the wrong set of parts."},{"startTime":2056.123,"endTime":2058.057,"body":"That's the only place she went wrong."},{"startTime":2058.057,"endTime":2061.7239999999997,"body":"Wrong skin tone and the wrong fucking thing dangling between her legs."},{"startTime":2061.7239999999997,"endTime":2062.848,"body":"Yeah, that's it."},{"startTime":2062.848,"endTime":2063.768,"body":"Okay."},{"startTime":2063.911,"endTime":2069.144,"body":"If that's so I didn't click on the article because if that's what it's going to say, then"},{"startTime":2063.911,"endTime":2069.144,"body":"I'm like, okay, yeah, that's where she went wrong."},{"startTime":2071.122,"endTime":2072.257,"body":"And that's what..."},{"startTime":2076.02,"endTime":2077.2599999999998,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2077.62,"endTime":2078.6,"body":"That's what I to say."},{"startTime":2078.6,"endTime":2080.12,"body":"I know."},{"startTime":2080.299,"endTime":2091.294,"body":"of Listen, I just went on a I get it I just want an eight-minute tirade about how the free"},{"startTime":2080.299,"endTime":2091.294,"body":"market works Like I'm not I'm not trying to pretend like I'm James Madison or Adam Grant"},{"startTime":2091.294,"endTime":2103.259,"body":"like I'm not trying to be some kind of but like please go on about About because there's a"},{"startTime":2091.294,"endTime":2103.259,"body":"thing here Mike about the expectations of Kamala Versus the expectations of Donald Trump"},{"startTime":2103.259,"endTime":2107.02,"body":"Donald Trump our expectations are in the gutter about that"},{"startTime":2107.718,"endTime":2109.314,"body":"Because he can just say"},{"startTime":2111.026,"endTime":2112.3269999999998,"body":"True, true nonsense."},{"startTime":2112.3269999999998,"endTime":2118.3309999999997,"body":"He can just say truthful, like he can just say the most crazy bullshit anybody's ever"},{"startTime":2112.3269999999998,"endTime":2118.3309999999997,"body":"heard."},{"startTime":2118.3309999999997,"endTime":2125.096,"body":"And because we expect him to lie, we're just like, that crazy old Donald Trump, man, he"},{"startTime":2118.3309999999997,"endTime":2125.096,"body":"just does, he just says weird shit, doesn't he?"},{"startTime":2125.096,"endTime":2126.6369999999997,"body":"He's shaved weird."},{"startTime":2126.6369999999997,"endTime":2128.198,"body":"He does weird things with his hands."},{"startTime":2128.198,"endTime":2130.259,"body":"His face is painted."},{"startTime":2130.58,"endTime":2132.0,"body":"He bullies."},{"startTime":2132.261,"endTime":2139.926,"body":"listen, Republicans should be standing up and saying like the first coup that this dude"},{"startTime":2132.261,"endTime":2139.926,"body":"accomplished was a"},{"startTime":2139.926,"endTime":2152.3109999999997,"body":"of the Republican Party because if you'll remember, he bullied and insulted and made"},{"startTime":2139.926,"endTime":2152.3109999999997,"body":"negative comments towards Republicans back in 2015 and 16 and they have been acquiescing"},{"startTime":2152.3109999999997,"endTime":2156.433,"body":"to his bulliness for the last nine years."},{"startTime":2156.6929999999998,"endTime":2158.504,"body":"He doesn't represent conservative value."},{"startTime":2158.504,"endTime":2159.794,"body":"Are you fucking kidding me?"},{"startTime":2159.794,"endTime":2169.306,"body":"Donald Trump represents conservative values about like family and no gays and fucking"},{"startTime":2159.794,"endTime":2169.306,"body":"abortion and fuck."},{"startTime":2169.306,"endTime":2171.578,"body":"You think Donald Trump represents that shit?"},{"startTime":2171.578,"endTime":2173.04,"body":"Are you dumb as shit?"},{"startTime":2173.04,"endTime":2174.962,"body":"Do you want to like, can I sell you shit?"},{"startTime":2174.962,"endTime":2181.368,"body":"got, please contact me if you believe that Donald Trump represents any of those things,"},{"startTime":2174.962,"endTime":2181.368,"body":"cause I want to sell you the most expensive."},{"startTime":2183.3219999999997,"endTime":2188.1459999999997,"body":"I'll shit into a bag and send it to you and tell you that it's Happily, gladly, please."},{"startTime":2188.1459999999997,"endTime":2199.7569999999996,"body":"If you believe Donald, if you believe that Donald Trump is a representative of Christian"},{"startTime":2188.1459999999997,"endTime":2199.7569999999996,"body":"values, you might want to check yourself into a, into a, into a, an actual like facility"},{"startTime":2199.7569999999996,"endTime":2201.098,"body":"cause they need to study you."},{"startTime":2201.098,"endTime":2203.4199999999996,"body":"You're, you're, you might be dumb."},{"startTime":2203.9809999999998,"endTime":2205.8619999999996,"body":"Sorry, Mike, should we end this?"},{"startTime":2205.8619999999996,"endTime":2209.185,"body":"I'm so, I'm so,"},{"startTime":2211.922,"endTime":2216.47,"body":"I think so many of us are feeling this way right now,"},{"startTime":2216.754,"endTime":2222.957,"body":"I don't know, are we or is it just, are you and me just in our own, do you and I have our"},{"startTime":2216.754,"endTime":2222.957,"body":"heads up our own asses?"},{"startTime":2224.618,"endTime":2229.31,"body":"I think at least 70 million people are filming this way today, That's what I think."},{"startTime":2229.995,"endTime":2230.674,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2230.674,"endTime":2231.874,"body":"But guess what?"},{"startTime":2231.874,"endTime":2234.5139999999997,"body":"73 million feel differently."},{"startTime":2234.5139999999997,"endTime":2237.37,"body":"73 million people!"},{"startTime":2237.8219999999997,"endTime":2240.591,"body":"How does anyone watch January 6th?"},{"startTime":2243.1879999999996,"endTime":2246.0679999999998,"body":"And that's just one thing, just one aspect."},{"startTime":2246.0679999999998,"endTime":2247.018,"body":"How does that happen?"},{"startTime":2247.018,"endTime":2253.9559999999997,"body":"They watch the events there and then vote for the guy."},{"startTime":2255.37,"endTime":2256.43,"body":"I don't know."},{"startTime":2256.77,"endTime":2269.779,"body":"I honestly don't know because listen, I hate to admit this, but like you and I are on a"},{"startTime":2256.77,"endTime":2269.779,"body":"text thread with, I mean, it's a text thread that I started and it's you, me and 10 other"},{"startTime":2269.779,"endTime":2272.781,"body":"of my very, very best homeboys, right?"},{"startTime":2273.181,"endTime":2275.0519999999997,"body":"There's 12 of us on that thread."},{"startTime":2277.4559999999997,"endTime":2279.138,"body":"Half of them are Trump guys."},{"startTime":2280.9339999999997,"endTime":2285.788,"body":"Half of them."},{"startTime":2285.788,"endTime":2292.0539999999996,"body":"And a few of those dudes listen to this podcast and so they're gonna like contact me and"},{"startTime":2285.788,"endTime":2292.0539999999996,"body":"be like, dude, you called me a fucking moron."},{"startTime":2292.0539999999996,"endTime":2295.9469999999997,"body":"Yeah, I love you guys."},{"startTime":2296.008,"endTime":2298.31,"body":"Listen, I love you guys."},{"startTime":2298.31,"endTime":2299.401,"body":"Like honestly, let's hang."},{"startTime":2299.401,"endTime":2300.8819999999996,"body":"Let's go do something tonight."},{"startTime":2300.8819999999996,"endTime":2302.053,"body":"I'm down."},{"startTime":2303.955,"endTime":2305.836,"body":"Listen, you guys have always."},{"startTime":2309.852,"endTime":2320.364,"body":"You can't say that you don't pay attention, you don't care about this shit, and then vote"},{"startTime":2309.852,"endTime":2320.364,"body":"the other way, and not expect me to be like, I think that you might be dumb as shit."},{"startTime":2328.4559999999997,"endTime":2329.8619999999996,"body":"I lost where I was going with it."},{"startTime":2329.8619999999996,"endTime":2330.3619999999996,"body":"Ha!"},{"startTime":2330.3619999999996,"endTime":2332.364,"body":"Mike, this thing's off the rails."},{"startTime":2332.364,"endTime":2335.1059999999998,"body":"It's just me on my soapbox."},{"startTime":2335.567,"endTime":2337.638,"body":"Should we talk about spirituality for a minute?"},{"startTime":2337.638,"endTime":2339.8399999999997,"body":"Do want to talk about some of the experiences that we've had recently?"},{"startTime":2339.8399999999997,"endTime":2345.584,"body":"Because we've had some cool experiences lately, and I think we're going to continue to"},{"startTime":2339.8399999999997,"endTime":2345.584,"body":"have some cool experiences."},{"startTime":2347.901,"endTime":2350.5229999999997,"body":"Well, one of things I wanted to talk about with."},{"startTime":2355.4759999999997,"endTime":2357.546,"body":"Why didn't this bring us back to Trump?"},{"startTime":2357.546,"endTime":2361.316,"body":"I was just talking, I want to talk about the, just the lyrics to your song were coming up."},{"startTime":2361.316,"endTime":2364.556,"body":"The one that we then posted on."},{"startTime":2365.816,"endTime":2366.9159999999997,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":2367.676,"endTime":2375.076,"body":"But the, him pedaling Bibles and you know, the upside down Bible in his hand is even know"},{"startTime":2367.676,"endTime":2375.076,"body":"the words of the anthem."},{"startTime":2377.426,"endTime":2379.2059999999997,"body":"Do you even hear when you say that?"},{"startTime":2379.2059999999997,"endTime":2388.866,"body":"Like I know those are lines from a song I wrote but like even thinking about that like"},{"startTime":2379.2059999999997,"endTime":2388.866,"body":"listen all the things I said negatively about Trump are true but like the dude is good for"},{"startTime":2388.866,"endTime":2398.826,"body":"comedy like standing there literally holding an upside-down Bible and then he he doesn't"},{"startTime":2388.866,"endTime":2398.826,"body":"know the right words to the star spangled like how do you not know the words to the star"},{"startTime":2398.826,"endTime":2406.874,"body":"spangled banner even if you're just like even if you're just a casual person who doesn't"},{"startTime":2398.826,"endTime":2406.874,"body":"give a shit about patriotism like watching"},{"startTime":2406.874,"endTime":2410.042,"body":"watching the Super Bowl, watching the World Series, like everywhere."},{"startTime":2410.042,"endTime":2413.149,"body":"The Starswingle banner is like everyone knows that song."},{"startTime":2413.149,"endTime":2414.332,"body":"It's like I'm a child of God."},{"startTime":2414.332,"endTime":2415.7279999999996,"body":"Everybody knows that song."},{"startTime":2415.7279999999996,"endTime":2425.843,"body":"I think it was Trevor Noah or some comedian who made fun of us because he's like, you guys"},{"startTime":2415.7279999999996,"endTime":2425.843,"body":"sing the national anthem at all your sporting events, even when there's no other 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really."},{"startTime":2454.841,"endTime":2460.102,"body":"Like, Happy Birthday only has like, what?"},{"startTime":2460.703,"endTime":2462.533,"body":"Happy Birthday to you."},{"startTime":2462.533,"endTime":2468.424,"body":"Like, Happy Birthday only has like six lyrics you have to remember, right?"},{"startTime":2468.665,"endTime":2473.732,"body":"Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday dear."},{"startTime":2473.732,"endTime":2474.6839999999997,"body":"Insert name here."},{"startTime":2474.6839999999997,"endTime":2475.615,"body":"Happy birthday to you."},{"startTime":2475.615,"endTime":2477.147,"body":"Okay, easy song to remember."},{"startTime":2477.147,"endTime":2478.89,"body":"The national anthem has a bunch of lyrics."},{"startTime":2478.89,"endTime":2480.5519999999997,"body":"I know that shit by heart."},{"startTime":2480.5519999999997,"endTime":2482.104,"body":"I know it by heart."},{"startTime":2482.194,"endTime":2494.3999999999996,"body":"I know all three verses, Well, I did when I was Mormon, because I used to read the Mormon"},{"startTime":2482.194,"endTime":2494.3999999999996,"body":"hymnal and get inspired about all the different verses."},{"startTime":2494.3999999999996,"endTime":2497.9629999999997,"body":"felt I was so patriotic, so patriotic."},{"startTime":2499.122,"endTime":2502.982,"body":"when our cause is just, what's that whole line like?"},{"startTime":2502.982,"endTime":2504.49,"body":"Then, then."},{"startTime":2505.593,"endTime":2506.236,"body":"then conquer."},{"startTime":2506.236,"endTime":2507.805,"body":"must win our cause."},{"startTime":2507.805,"endTime":2509.692,"body":"must when our cause it is justice."},{"startTime":2509.692,"endTime":2511.93,"body":"Like dude, that is a war anthem, bro."},{"startTime":2511.93,"endTime":2514.156,"body":"Like that shit is crazy."},{"startTime":2515.451,"endTime":2518.4489999999996,"body":"And this be our motto in God is our trust."},{"startTime":2519.154,"endTime":2523.709,"body":"Holy shit, do know, dude, you do know the national anthem word for word, man."},{"startTime":2523.709,"endTime":2527.3419999999996,"body":"Francis Scott Key would be proud of you, Mike."},{"startTime":2527.7279999999996,"endTime":2528.7889999999998,"body":"I hope he would be."},{"startTime":2528.7889999999998,"endTime":2531.73,"body":"That's all I wanted to do is make him proud."},{"startTime":2533.2709999999997,"endTime":2542.894,"body":"But yeah, so bring that up because we've had some cool music experiences and doing Dragon"},{"startTime":2533.2709999999997,"endTime":2542.894,"body":"Cat music."},{"startTime":2542.894,"endTime":2545.346,"body":"and just talk about some of the cool shit we've done lately?"},{"startTime":2545.4869999999996,"endTime":2546.2079999999996,"body":"Please."},{"startTime":2546.2079999999996,"endTime":2551.6169999999997,"body":"I'm sorry that I, Mike, I'm okay if we start the recording right now."},{"startTime":2551.6169999999997,"endTime":2553.596,"body":"bow on the election talk."},{"startTime":2553.596,"endTime":2556.028,"body":"just want to talk about and just hit on again."},{"startTime":2556.569,"endTime":2560.7909999999997,"body":"Like if you're it, like be it's a grieving process."},{"startTime":2560.7909999999997,"endTime":2568.274,"body":"Like don't let your mind get caught up in the story of it and the millions of different"},{"startTime":2560.7909999999997,"endTime":2568.274,"body":"stories it's telling."},{"startTime":2568.714,"endTime":2569.734,"body":"Fill it."},{"startTime":2569.855,"endTime":2571.044,"body":"And then you know what?"},{"startTime":2571.044,"endTime":2573.4359999999997,"body":"Yeah, we can worry about those things, but."},{"startTime":2573.4359999999997,"endTime":2574.518,"body":"it just gets some clarity."},{"startTime":2574.518,"endTime":2578.4649999999997,"body":"And I don't know why I'd give advice, but I was just giving advice to myself 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I, you know what?"},{"startTime":3236.812,"endTime":3240.482,"body":"I like to laugh about some of that shit and I like to have a good old time about it."},{"startTime":3240.482,"endTime":3241.332,"body":"So."},{"startTime":3241.332,"endTime":3244.413,"body":"I also like get crazy."},{"startTime":3244.413,"endTime":3246.408,"body":"I haven't said this to you on my first night."},{"startTime":3246.408,"endTime":3252.136,"body":"I'm like, isn't it just great to have a space where you can just get fucking crazy?"},{"startTime":3252.716,"endTime":3257.528,"body":"And I'm twitching, I'm dancing, I'm flowing, I'm yelling."},{"startTime":3257.528,"endTime":3261.109,"body":"kept whooping, whooping, whooping, whooping."},{"startTime":3261.109,"endTime":3261.513,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":3261.513,"endTime":3264.62,"body":"dude, you were fucking go- Dude, by the way, you were like-"},{"startTime":3266.98,"endTime":3268.7549999999997,"body":"Yipping and whooping doesn't quite cover 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a"},{"startTime":3297.031,"endTime":3303.0159999999996,"body":"couple of the words, which, you know, that happens."},{"startTime":3303.0159999999996,"endTime":3303.9959999999996,"body":"That's fine."},{"startTime":3304.297,"endTime":3314.535,"body":"But like that crew was howling in a way that growling, howling, yipping and yelping in a"},{"startTime":3304.297,"endTime":3314.535,"body":"way that no one ever has during that song."},{"startTime":3314.535,"endTime":3315.886,"body":"It made me feel alive."},{"startTime":3315.924,"endTime":3320.624,"body":"Yeah, you know how usually when you sing that song, know, the first couple yelps, people"},{"startTime":3315.924,"endTime":3320.624,"body":"are kind of getting into it."},{"startTime":3320.624,"endTime":3327.754,"body":"And then by the end we had, you know, people are yelping and howling from the very get-go"},{"startTime":3320.624,"endTime":3327.754,"body":"on that one."},{"startTime":3327.754,"endTime":3330.924,"body":"was, and it was so cathartic."},{"startTime":3330.924,"endTime":3334.0739999999996,"body":"So like, and you know, maybe they do this in the way of the warrior retreat."},{"startTime":3334.0739999999996,"endTime":3337.2039999999997,"body":"Maybe they do like a howl like a wolf, but."},{"startTime":3337.2039999999997,"endTime":3343.401,"body":"the whole thing is that they're yelping and howling way better than we could ever like"},{"startTime":3337.2039999999997,"endTime":3343.401,"body":"plan for, but I don't think so."},{"startTime":3343.401,"endTime":3344.794,"body":"That was the best thing ever."},{"startTime":3344.892,"endTime":3346.4339999999997,"body":"It was the best thing ever."},{"startTime":3346.9759999999997,"endTime":3351.0609999999997,"body":"And so, I just loved doing music that night."},{"startTime":3351.423,"endTime":3352.524,"body":"I was just..."},{"startTime":3352.87,"endTime":3355.596,"body":"That was a pretty amazing"},{"startTime":3358.676,"endTime":3359.596,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":3359.596,"endTime":3367.196,"body":"Well, like, one of the things, I guess I was having a little bit of a full house moment"},{"startTime":3359.596,"endTime":3367.196,"body":"there."},{"startTime":3367.196,"endTime":3368.316,"body":"like, okay."},{"startTime":3368.316,"endTime":3374.696,"body":"The lesson that I got from that weekend is that just like, you know, I, was fucking"},{"startTime":3368.316,"endTime":3374.696,"body":"multi-dimensional man."},{"startTime":3374.696,"endTime":3380.966,"body":"And it was like, just lean into all of it, lean into like, okay."},{"startTime":3380.966,"endTime":3384.316,"body":"I wanted to dance like a, almost like a ballerina at one point."},{"startTime":3384.316,"endTime":3385.8559999999998,"body":"Yeah, let's do it."},{"startTime":3385.8559999999998,"endTime":3386.9199999999996,"body":"then I wanted to like."},{"startTime":3386.9199999999996,"endTime":3392.604,"body":"be a warrior with my shirt off and like grunt."},{"startTime":3393.0249999999996,"endTime":3394.0299999999997,"body":"Yeah, do it."},{"startTime":3394.0299999999997,"endTime":3401.792,"body":"know, go and, and I don't know, there's just a freedom to do that, to be in a space with"},{"startTime":3394.0299999999997,"endTime":3401.792,"body":"other men just doing that, man."},{"startTime":3402.533,"endTime":3408.337,"body":"So to even tie it back to the Donald Trump thing, I think men are craving that."},{"startTime":3409.419,"endTime":3413.142,"body":"So you talk about, you talk about the, you talk about the incels, right?"},{"startTime":3413.142,"endTime":3416.198,"body":"I think what they're really craving and"},{"startTime":3416.294,"endTime":3430.153,"body":"is a space where they can voice all their weird shit and be with other men and just like"},{"startTime":3416.294,"endTime":3430.153,"body":"have other, you know, because then you get it out and then you don't need to, you don't"},{"startTime":3430.153,"endTime":3432.506,"body":"have to have a woman validate you to that point."},{"startTime":3432.7239999999997,"endTime":3434.098,"body":"Does that make sense?"},{"startTime":3434.1079999999997,"endTime":3445.908,"body":"Dude, I'm honestly feeling a little bit, I don't know, man, I'm feeling a little bit, not"},{"startTime":3434.1079999999997,"endTime":3445.908,"body":"chastised, but just that I wanna kinda walk back some of the insults that I spewed at the"},{"startTime":3445.908,"endTime":3449.962,"body":"beginning of this thing, because it's like, yeah, I think people are just desperate for a"},{"startTime":3445.908,"endTime":3449.962,"body":"connection."},{"startTime":3449.962,"endTime":3451.673,"body":"They're desperate, right?"},{"startTime":3452.134,"endTime":3452.836,"body":"God."},{"startTime":3452.836,"endTime":3461.276,"body":"found that online and they found that, if I spew all this awful shit, then I do get some"},{"startTime":3452.836,"endTime":3461.276,"body":"connection."},{"startTime":3461.276,"endTime":3463.056,"body":"People are listening to me now."},{"startTime":3463.056,"endTime":3465.0359999999996,"body":"I have a platform now."},{"startTime":3465.0359999999996,"endTime":3466.8559999999998,"body":"I have connection."},{"startTime":3467.696,"endTime":3480.5939999999996,"body":"I think if it's like a deeper connection, you know, in person, not validating that, like,"},{"startTime":3467.696,"endTime":3480.5939999999996,"body":"what they're saying is right."},{"startTime":3480.968,"endTime":3484.3579999999997,"body":"but validating that the feelings that they're feeling are okay."},{"startTime":3484.3579999999997,"endTime":3492.624,"body":"Right, validating their existence and the way they're feeling, the way that they're"},{"startTime":3484.3579999999997,"endTime":3492.624,"body":"feeling marginalized and unheard is okay."},{"startTime":3492.8509999999997,"endTime":3502.4179999999997,"body":"The way they're feeling that, you know what, I am, maybe I do like hugs from guys, maybe I"},{"startTime":3492.8509999999997,"endTime":3502.4179999999997,"body":"am a little gay, maybe I am all the way gay, I don't know, you know?"},{"startTime":3502.4179999999997,"endTime":3510.114,"body":"Or maybe, or maybe I just need some, maybe I just need to feel valued."},{"startTime":3511.272,"endTime":3512.1119999999996,"body":"Yeah."},{"startTime":3513.9939999999997,"endTime":3522.3109999999997,"body":"I'm trying to give all these different like scenarios of what I think what men need."},{"startTime":3522.3109999999997,"endTime":3525.7239999999997,"body":"And I think maybe, maybe that's maybe we just solve the world there, man."},{"startTime":3527.4759999999997,"endTime":3536.136,"body":"If get guys together and doing that shit, then they'll stop spewing their hatred on the"},{"startTime":3527.4759999999997,"endTime":3536.136,"body":"internet and voting against women."},{"startTime":3536.4759999999997,"endTime":3551.176,"body":"maybe we can finally be a part of this awakening of the feminine and the divine feminine"},{"startTime":3536.4759999999997,"endTime":3551.176,"body":"rising and whatever and we can do that shit instead of tearing it down."},{"startTime":3551.176,"endTime":3553.966,"body":"maybe men need other men."},{"startTime":3553.966,"endTime":3555.3799999999997,"body":"Maybe we do need men's"},{"startTime":3555.3799999999997,"endTime":3556.43,"body":"groups and men's retreats."},{"startTime":3556.43,"endTime":3557.172,"body":"But you know what?"},{"startTime":3557.172,"endTime":3557.662,"body":"want to do it."},{"startTime":3557.662,"endTime":3559.904,"body":"If we're doing a fucking men's retreat, let's do a men's retreat, Doug."},{"startTime":3559.904,"endTime":3560.6549999999997,"body":"Let's do a men's retreat."},{"startTime":3560.6549999999997,"endTime":3562.7369999999996,"body":"Let's do it like in our way like we did last weekend."},{"startTime":3562.7369999999996,"endTime":3563.7799999999997,"body":"I mean, that's kind of did."},{"startTime":3563.7799999999997,"endTime":3566.1929999999998,"body":"Okay, let's, let's, hey, do you know what?"},{"startTime":3566.1929999999998,"endTime":3568.4559999999997,"body":"Let's, let's, let's plan one."},{"startTime":3568.4559999999997,"endTime":3570.0679999999998,"body":"Let's put a date out there for the world."},{"startTime":3570.0679999999998,"endTime":3572.942,"body":"Like let's do a, let's do one of these recordings live."},{"startTime":3572.942,"endTime":3580.1409999999996,"body":"Let's put a date out there in the show notes and let's do a men's retreat and put it in"},{"startTime":3572.942,"endTime":3580.1409999999996,"body":"the, let's, you and I can go offline and figure out what day that works, but let's fucking"},{"startTime":3580.1409999999996,"endTime":3580.692,"body":"do one, man."},{"startTime":3580.692,"endTime":3581.173,"body":"I'm down."},{"startTime":3581.173,"endTime":3582.232,"body":"I am so down."},{"startTime":3582.232,"endTime":3589.392,"body":"men's retreat like that, but in a way of like, you guys, we're just going to get fucking"},{"startTime":3582.232,"endTime":3589.392,"body":"weird and warrior-y."},{"startTime":3589.832,"endTime":3591.352,"body":"But there's no pressure to do that."},{"startTime":3591.352,"endTime":3594.0319999999997,"body":"We're just going to be us."},{"startTime":3594.412,"endTime":3597.292,"body":"I realize how much, I guess that's one of the things."},{"startTime":3597.292,"endTime":3600.0719999999997,"body":"The first night I loved you and I doing it."},{"startTime":3600.0719999999997,"endTime":3606.752,"body":"I loved having more of our people like on the next night and it was coed, you know, it was"},{"startTime":3600.0719999999997,"endTime":3606.752,"body":"a group."},{"startTime":3606.752,"endTime":3608.864,"body":"But then the last night,"},{"startTime":3608.9339999999997,"endTime":3613.4739999999997,"body":"It was just guys and I've never I've never tripped with just guys like that."},{"startTime":3613.4739999999997,"endTime":3620.6879999999996,"body":"And for me, there was something so freeing about being with other guys and being weird."},{"startTime":3626.172,"endTime":3641.5829999999996,"body":"Guys, listen, I know that we talk a lot about the divine feminine, but also guys out"},{"startTime":3626.172,"endTime":3641.5829999999996,"body":"there, you're valid, you're real, you're true, we see you, we are the same."},{"startTime":3641.5829999999996,"endTime":3643.644,"body":"Let's fucking hang, bro."},{"startTime":3643.644,"endTime":3645.6859999999997,"body":"Come on, let's do something cool together."},{"startTime":3645.6859999999997,"endTime":3646.7659999999996,"body":"Let's do this."},{"startTime":3647.071,"endTime":3653.9269999999997,"body":"And I should say, because we're talking about a guy's retreat, that includes"},{"startTime":3647.071,"endTime":3653.9269999999997,"body":"trans-gendered men."},{"startTime":3655.5159999999996,"endTime":3659.7059999999997,"body":"If you identify it as Mel, I think it's straight."},{"startTime":3661.348,"endTime":3665.241,"body":"Yeah, man, anyone who's like, want to go to the like, here's the thing."},{"startTime":3665.241,"endTime":3667.964,"body":"Anyone who's like, I want to go to the guys retreat."},{"startTime":3667.964,"endTime":3668.9449999999997,"body":"OK."},{"startTime":3669.0249999999996,"endTime":3669.486,"body":"All right."},{"startTime":3669.486,"endTime":3670.346,"body":"Fine."},{"startTime":3671.107,"endTime":3672.0879999999997,"body":"OK."},{"startTime":3672.209,"endTime":3673.99,"body":"There's not going to be any like."},{"startTime":3675.4719999999998,"endTime":3678.394,"body":"You know, we're not going to try to do any sexual tension or anything like that."},{"startTime":3678.394,"endTime":3679.265,"body":"It's going to a guys retreat."},{"startTime":3679.265,"endTime":3681.2169999999996,"body":"We're going to take our shirts off and howl the moon."},{"startTime":3681.2169999999996,"endTime":3682.6679999999997,"body":"OK, let's do it."},{"startTime":3685.138,"endTime":3685.951,"body":"Amen."},{"startTime":3686.296,"endTime":3687.147,"body":"Ah-ho."},{"startTime":3689.375,"endTime":3690.2569999999996,"body":"I think maybe that's it."},{"startTime":3690.2569999999996,"endTime":3691.02,"body":"Is that it?"},{"startTime":3691.02,"endTime":3692.1279999999997,"body":"Any last parting words?"},{"startTime":3692.1279999999997,"endTime":3694.9779999999996,"body":"let's, no, I mean, I feel like I talked too much."},{"startTime":3694.9779999999996,"endTime":3696.673,"body":"Dude, we're gonna listen back to this thing."},{"startTime":3696.673,"endTime":3702.4109999999996,"body":"I'm gonna send you a text that's gonna be like, sorry that I talk so much and I talk so"},{"startTime":3696.673,"endTime":3702.4109999999996,"body":"vehemently."},{"startTime":3702.4109999999996,"endTime":3705.9049999999997,"body":"Like, I don't mean to be that way, man, sorry."},{"startTime":3705.966,"endTime":3708.118,"body":"I'm just pretty butt hurt today."},{"startTime":3708.118,"endTime":3709.4809999999998,"body":"I'm pretty butt hurt today."},{"startTime":3709.4809999999998,"endTime":3711.393,"body":"you're voicing a lot of people are butthurt."},{"startTime":3711.393,"endTime":3717.098,"body":"My only thing is I feel like, I hope I just can't have a hard time keeping up with you."},{"startTime":3719.04,"endTime":3721.182,"body":"I have hard time keeping up with you sometimes."},{"startTime":3723.0339999999997,"endTime":3730.504,"body":"I don't know what you mean by that because like I feel like I probably just talked over"},{"startTime":3723.0339999999997,"endTime":3730.504,"body":"our conversation."},{"startTime":3731.2259999999997,"endTime":3734.23,"body":"I feel like an asshole tonight a little bit to be honest with you."},{"startTime":3734.23,"endTime":3735.6319999999996,"body":"You know what?"},{"startTime":3735.6319999999996,"endTime":3737.294,"body":"Sometimes we gotta be assholes."},{"startTime":3737.4049999999997,"endTime":3738.687,"body":"we gotta be, you know."},{"startTime":3740.6119999999996,"endTime":3741.826,"body":"Ah-ho, let's do it."},{"startTime":3741.826,"endTime":3743.234,"body":"End of story."}]}