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mean?"},{"startTime":1848.964,"endTime":1854.987,"body":"But you sent a video of that one singer and she's just like owning everything."},{"startTime":1854.987,"endTime":1855.517,"body":"You know what mean?"},{"startTime":1855.517,"endTime":1857.589,"body":"Like everyone belongs to her."},{"startTime":1857.589,"endTime":1865.865,"body":"And I said back to you, man, being a cool chick with a cool vibe, is there a more powerful"},{"startTime":1857.589,"endTime":1865.865,"body":"person on this earth?"},{"startTime":1865.865,"endTime":1866.7050000000002,"body":"Right?"},{"startTime":1867.106,"endTime":1881.491,"body":"And I'm going to tell you right now, I believe that firmly that that is the most, a cool"},{"startTime":1867.106,"endTime":1881.491,"body":"woman with a cool vibe is the most powerful person, according to me, on the earth."},{"startTime":1881.492,"endTime":1888.855,"body":"Now, president elect Donald Trump is in the most powerful position that we consider, 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