Mormons on Mushrooms

You Can't Force the Night (#187)

Mormons On Mushrooms

Mike and Doug dive deep into the daily struggle of self-perception—are you a badass Samurai Warrior or... a Horny Santa Claus? Mike shares how his recent beach trip involved a self-baptism (because, why not?) and Doug introduces the golden rule: “You can’t force the night.” It's all about embracing your vibe, whether you're rocking the Samurai or channeling your inner Santa.

Key Topics:

  • Samurai Warrior vs. Horny Santa Claus
  • Mike’s coconut oil hair secrets 
  • Why you can’t force the night—let it unfold naturally
  • Boundary-setting and just rolling with the vibe
  • A spontaneous ocean baptism

Well, well, well, we made it back. I mean, we've been like in every other week podcasts for a while now, haven't we? I know it's like slowly turning into a bi-monthly or a semi-monthly, whatever the twice a month sort of term is, but that's what it's kind of becoming, huh? you know I am doing an episode with Stephanie another like a one with Stephanie and Kelly Yeah So be good. We'll throw that one in there, too. That's gonna be a good one. I forgot that the top It's a good topic whatever it is. I forgot what it was we picked a topic Isn't it cool how they come with topics and it's like, wow, they like have some preparation. Yeah, right. We've been kind of chatting about it and then we have this little Marco Polo Dreams, Dream Queens chat group and we chat about dreams. So. Is your episode gonna be about dreams? No, I think we're going to talk about... Wait for it, wait for it. We were going to talk about misogyny, but I'm like, you guys, can't. I feel like I haven't unpacked it enough. don't know. So we're going to talk about... shit, I don't know. It'll be good. It'll be, it's going to be great. Stay tuned folks. The next episode will be right out. Man, my hair looks so great in this lighting, so great. Is that what you said? It looks great. come on. I told you that about with my hair though, right? Like I've had this thing with my hair. I was almost going to just chop it off again because I just like, mean, do you have a love and hate thing with your hair? Do you just love it or do you love hate it? I, yeah, when you were explaining the thing about your hair to me, I certainly identified with that, which is it's like your biggest strength, but also it's like a pain in the ass. Now imagine, now imagine like if you had a receding hairline like I do and super thin hair, it's just a bigger pain in the ass. You know what I mean? Well, hearing you say that, I, yeah, I have this thing where it's like, sometimes I look in the mirror and be like, damn, I look like a samurai warrior. I'm like, hell yeah. You do look like a samurai warrior. And then other times look at my hair and I'm like, I look like a horny old Santa Claus. And it's either one or the other. And then sometimes it's like, it'll change even just like, you know, I'll go about to go out for the night. I'm feeling all sexy and like, hell yeah. And then I get home and I'm splashing water on my face or something like, my gosh, did I really go out like this? Is this how my hair looked the whole time? So. Let me ask you this, what's your haircare routine? are you, how often are you shampoo and conditioner? What do you put product wise? What are you putting in it? What's the in-betweens, like phases? What are you doing? Tell me everything. This is Welcome to Haircare with Mike and Doug. so I've spread out my washings a lot more. I'll wash it now like once a week. And in the days when I don't wash it, I still get in the shower and scrub it with my hands really good, like my scalp, so it doesn't get all oily. It breaks up the oils. And then every once in a what I've been doing is I've been putting some coconut oil in. Okay, when do you put the cut, like tell me everything. I've tried two different things. Sometimes I put it on in the morning, just a tiny bit. If you put it on too much, it's going to get greasy. But like you put a tiny bit on when it's still wet and kind of rub it in. But then a couple other times what I've done is like the night before I'm going to wash it, I'll put on like a couple teaspoons of coconut oil and really rub it in there and then let it sit overnight and then wash it the next day. But you almost have to shampoo it twice to get all the coconut oil. I'm to be good for it. I know. I saw it on the Spider-Man movie. You know the Indian Spider-Man? It's that multiverse one, the cartoon. Yeah, the guy from India has this really luscious hair and he says, I put coconut oil in it. And I'm like, maybe that's a thing. So I went to Reddit and sure enough it's a thing. I'm still waiting to have hair like that guy does, but... I know dude, isn't it funny? I'll go to all these different things about hair care. I have a buddy who has just great, great long hair. It's just amazing. And you ask for tips. What's that? he does, he has great hair. Yeah, yeah. And so you ask people with great hair for tips and they'll give you a broad range of hair care tips and it turns out they just have amazing hair. My wife is that way, right? I try to follow, because my wife has real thick, luscious hair. So I'll try to learn and ask for tips and she'll tell me and it's just like, dude, Doug, you just have super fine. thinning 44 year old man hair and you're trying to go with it like you're trying to have a man bun so just chillax with your fucking although my beard gets fuller every month you know what I mean Yeah, well, here's the thing I want to talk about with that then and it ties into some stuff that I want to talk about. It ties into some of my trips recently. The way you carry yourself makes such a difference. So like when I was thinking of those two extremes, right? Like the Samurai Dragon Warrior guy and the horny Santa Claus. That came up when... I went to the beach this weekend and I took a little bit of ketamine and smoked a joint and was just like, I was just loving it, man. I was laying there on the beach. It was kind of cold. It was a little chilly, but I was just loving it. But I was feeling this. I was going through that thing with my hair and these two feelings that I have. And then I walk out into the water and just like almost bathed myself in the sea and it was nice and cold. And I was realizing I'm both. I'm both Samurai Warrior and Horny Santa Claus and probably lots of things in between. And there was something about like, okay... The way you carry yourself, reflects, it somehow does it. It just reflects, it's like energetic. Don't you feel like, maybe? Or am I going crazy? No, I, dude, this is a thing that like, I'm glad that I'm, I, I, I, I couldn't agree more. And I think watching you sort of realize it has unlocked in me, the ability to sort of lean more into that, that concept of just like, we live in the story we tell ourselves and that includes the story we tell about ourselves. You know what I mean? And I know we talk about this all the time. But until it's a felt, like until it's a felt knowledge, until it's like a testimonial rather than like a aspirational thing, it's a thing that we can just keep talking about, right? But it's that, there was a while, there was a time period where I was like really into spin classes, you know? Like I was like, all right, I'm gonna. to my first one tonight, man. That's weird. I've never been to one before. Okay. you'll love it. Like they get all like spin instructors are like a different kind of breed, man. They get all like hype and they. I mean, just the fact that they can do that shit and like have a like a running dialogue, like the entire 60 minutes is just amazing. Right. Like, and also at the end of spin class, you feel like you've really accomplished something. It's a, it's a, it's it's a, yeah, you're going to love it. And this one is a spin instructor that I absolutely love going to her. She, at the end of the. at the end of each class, we would get off the bike and do like some stretches and some yoga and stuff like that. And then the last thing, every single class, the last thing that she would do is she was like, all right, stand up straight, put your shoulders back, drop them down, puff your chest out, walk around like that all day and no one's gonna mess with you. And it's just like, you walk out of that spin class. with your shoulders back and down and your chest out and you're kind of walking with that like gym bro strut, you know? And the fact of the matter is this, when you walk out of that spin class feeling that way, that's who you are for the rest of day. You're like, yeah, man, no one's going to fuck with me today. Like I'm feeling good about myself. I got my chest all puffed up and I've got my back is straight and I got good posture and I just feel good about myself. And the reason I tell that whole story, is because it's exactly to me what you're talking about with the samurai warrior and the horny Santa Claus. It's like, bro, the only difference is mentally what you think about yourself. Because you look the same to me, you look the same to the world around you, but also people can pick up on that energetic air, like that aura that you bring with you. You know what I mean? And that's the difference we're talking about. And it's noticeable. And it's been noticeable for you. thank you. Well, and I felt that ever since I had that like experience, I've been carrying myself with that energy and cool shit's been happening, man. Really cool shit's been happening. So it reminds me of being single for the last year or so. I've only been on like a few app dates. I just have not liked the apps. But one of the dates I went on with this photographer woman. and she showed me her pictures and I was like, how do you capture people that way? And she says, have to look at them that way. The camera will pick up how I am looking at them. So if I'm like, if I'm trying to like, let me try to capture this or that, no, I have to gaze at them with, have to like, just be looking at them, loving their bodies and loving their, loving like, Seeing if I'm seeing them in a certain light, the camera will pick it up. And that was fascinating to me that and so I've been trying it. Yeah, I've been trying it with pics. So I've been doing like on my Instagram feed, just like going around. I've only posted like a fraction of the pictures, but just walking around town and just trying to just take pictures, looking at like the city through my eyes, not trying to get a good picture, but like, that looks like a good. Just like. But when I'm taking the picture, I'm looking at the city in a certain way. I don't know. And my pictures have been pretty cool lately, man. Well, you haven't sent me any pictures, but your vibe has been really cool. Like, you know, it's funny, when we spoke two weeks ago, and even earlier, or guess late part of last week when we spoke, you're kind of feeling in the dumps a little bit, right? Dude, even just right now, look at you on the screen. at how much I mean. I mean, obviously the way that we've you know, yesterday, today, Sunday, you've been kind of like, you've been, you know, more energetically, your posture has been better. But even right now, looking at you in the screen, you're like filling it up a little bit more, you know? Like you're just like, it's like, it's like all Mike. I'll mic all the time, ready for the mic show. all the time, baby. Come on, give me what I want. Yeah. So I think, so I guess the point is this, Mike, like a lot of the stuff that you and I talk about is just like, maybe everyone else out there in the world knows all this shit and is like, yeah, duh. But it's like, wow, we still are these two, like wide eyed adventurers who are just sort of holding hands and skipping through. cosmic fields of self-discovery. And it's fun coming across this type of a thing once in a while where it's like, is it really that easy? Dude, you said to me a couple of times in the last couple of days, you're like, man, is life really that easy? And it's just been like, yes, bro. Hell yeah. Fuck yeah, Mike. Go. Well, thank you. Well, I'll... Now I'm little... Yeah, maybe just fucking end it. I mean, we're doing a short one today, so it's gonna be short and sweet, by the way, if you're listening, but like... Because we're gonna watch. I gotta go watch the vice president debate. Like, I'm just like a little bitch about it, you know? hey, it's an important debate for our country. Plus it's gonna be, plus I wanna see how weird, I just forgot his name is, JD Vance. And how much dad energy Tim Walz brings to the whole thing. Well, it's pretty fascinating. I know you were gonna say something. I'm just gonna say a little throwaway comment. JD Vance seems like a guy who loves being one of the boys and wants a little bit of like a strong male influence in his life and kind of like wants a father figure. And then Tim Walz has this sort of like dad energy. Do you know what I mean? For better or for worse. So it's gonna be an interesting dynamic. I think they're both gonna do a good job. I think it's gonna be a little different of a debate than what we've seen with... You know how Trump debates as far as like technically but I think both of them will do a good job But it'll be interesting to watch for me that dynamic Do you know what I mean? Because I think I think what will happen is that JD Vance will be extra special mean Thinking that he needs to do that and I don't think he needs to do that. That's what I I don't think he should do that. I think it's going to come across in that kind of energy. I mean, speaking of, I guess on the topic we're speaking of. But, you know, it ties back into a little bit for me, the conversation I think we had maybe the last episode of how we were talking about the world is end-sold, you know, has soul. Yeah. And so really, if you think of it as a mirror, Is it that simple that like how I'm looking at the world is the way the world's gonna look back at me? I don't know, it is it sounds, I admit is that some too woo woo. Well, I don't think it's too woo-woo at all, actually. I think that's one of the less woo-woo things that you and I have talked about. really? Because for me, that seems like... It's like I'm believing it and I've had experiences of that. That, you know, the way I'm carrying myself and the way I'm looking at the world is how my camera's picking it up, is how the world's looking back at me, is how people are interacting with me. Like, I've had this thing. So, a couple of times, there's people at the office who... Like, it's weird because I'll have like this deep conversation with them one day. And then the next day it's like, they don't say hi, it's like they don't even acknowledge you're there kind of deal. And I'm like, man, those people are kind of weird. And then I'm like, but wait, maybe they're the same thing about me. Maybe I'm super open with them one day and I'm closed one day and maybe they're kind of like, man, Mike's kind of hot or cold, you know? And maybe I am. And so it's like, maybe they're responding based on the energy I'm also putting out. And I don't know. Dude, I'm hyper aware of that kind of thing because like, yeah, it's funny that you asked if this is woo woo, cause this is like mainstream. Like this shit, I mean, this is, this is you get what you give, birds of a feather, like attracts like the love you take is equal to the love you make. Like this is just like basic law of attraction. Like whatever this is like what man, it's so funny that you asked if this is woo woo, because it's like, It was true on my mission. It's been true in sales. It's been true in the workplace. It's been true at conferences, at festivals, at concerts, shindigs, like fucking ecstatic dance type of thing. the vibration with which you're presenting yourself is what everyone else picks up on. And if they want to surf that wave, that's where attraction comes in. And if it's like, he seems a little bit... Like in his own world or he seems a little grumpy or he seems a little standoffish or he seems too good or seems nerdy or seems Weird or seems like he thinks he's better than everybody. Like that's the shit that like like that that that's Bro, this is like disarming people 101 is like a smile and a good vibe and just like being in your own being in your own power is the difference in everything. when you're so good at it. And we've talked about this before, like when you give it off the flavor country vibe, like I love traveling with you because I love going on this adventure where all of a sudden you're getting upgraded to first class. The stewardesses are like filling up, like you don't see the bottom of your glass, you know, throughout the whole flight. And it's like, yeah, and it's It's just a good vibe because it's like you're putting out that vibe and it just, the world's the mirror and it's like, yeah, I'll reflect it back to you. Yeah, I mean, I think that like it's about because because there's some there's some there's some ways to really fuck that up as far as like not being authentic Does that make sense? So like the great thing that you're saying is You can do horny Santa Claus you can do Samurai warrior, there's probably a few more. There's probably some other boxes you could tick or some other quadrants It's not like you to be one or the other right? It's really only those two. It's either horny Santa Claus or they do it. Yeah. Horny Santa Claus or like like like like like like like like Zen out samurai warrior. You're only two personalities, right? But like. yeah. So it's just about, you know, when people talk about alignment and authenticity, like that's what that shit is, man. Because you can be that way, you know, if you have to give like a speech, you know, for work or if you're going to a dinner. Like those are different energies, like those are different people. But there's an authenticity to it. Like I'm talking like I'm some kind of expert. I'm not some kind of expert. I am good at this. Like this is a thing that, like if I had a superpower, this would be my superpower. Do know what I mean? Is like being fun to like, or I guess being authentic. Like being in my, I don't even wanna say being authentic, because I'm full of shit a lot of times too. But like being in my energy is a thing that I think I'm good at. You're good at it and it's contagious. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It totally is contagious. And so I've just been feeling that lately and I'm just kind of like, well, how can my life transform if I just really just start caring myself the way I love seeing myself? look, like you're changing how just like I and how often I sell myself short in how my own self perception and then that gets reflected back to me and it gets When it gets reflected back, it becomes a or like a cycle where it like, then it changes my self-perception. And instead of I'm just like, this is the way I want to engage with the world. And I love how you were talking about like that bright-eyed curiosity, wonder. Like what if just like carrying myself throughout the day with this sense of wonder, with not trying to control an outcome, but getting curious and listening to... get sensing, like you go into a space instead of being like, I want this outcome to happen. Just being like, I'm going to show up, I'm going to be in my vibe, and I'm just going to listen. But listen in like the sensing type of way and like tune into cues, tune into conversations people are having, maybe even join their conversation, you know, and just like kind of just get curious about the world. Has it had an impact on your life in the last few days? It's had a great impact, but I don't know if I can go into details on how it's had an impact, but it's had it. you've you've you've you've come across cool bands. You've had interesting interactions with people. You've been out on the beach getting baptized. Like you've had an amazing time being in your mic power. Right. You've you've been better at work. You've been like all the things. Right. Yeah. it's just made, I mean, I feel like the last few days have been life-changing. like I saying, yeah, all of a sudden I just walk in, I'm walking around and there's this cool jazz band playing at this music venue of mine. Okay, I'll stop in, go in there. Then I meet people at that concert. And now I've got new friends. then last night I was just going to go home because I was tired. And I'm like, hey, let me just stop into this bar and have a drink and take some of those pictures I've been taking. And then started chatting up with some other people and maybe some new friends there. I don't know. It's just been... And it's just really changing the way I'm engaging with the world. And thinking of it in terms of how... Western white men, patriarchy or whatever, the capitalism, know, the stuff we talk about on how we've engaged in the world as an object and how can we exploit it? How can we control the outcome of things? How can we do the opposite of getting curious? How can we control the outcome to be safe and secure and comfortable? And that's even just like the, but then the shadow side of how can we do it to exploit and lift ourselves up and get rich off of other people and, you know, colonize. Instead of what if I just engage and listen and be curious and, I don't know. I think that you're leveling into a new, like you're going into like a new, you know Mario? You know how you could like go into the secret places and do the warp? Did you call it warp? Is that what it was? warp. like, yeah, the cheats. Yeah, the warp. It's warp. Yeah. So I feel like you just went above all of the like little things in the in the underground world And I think you just I think you just warped to level seven. Like I think you're there the big world where everyone's like really big? And they're like everyone, know, they got the big. yeah, dude, whoa, I'm having like a Super Mario Brothers flashback here. Is there, is it? That might be like number three. Like that... number three and then that's where you get the flute and you can take the flute to different like worlds and yeah. like a raccoon that can fly weirdly. I didn't, I never understood what the hell was going on there. Like what, was it a raccoon or a flying squirrel? I think it's a raccoon that you fly. And then you can be a bear that turns into stone on one of the levels. Yeah. That's right. You can be anything. Well, so the point we're trying to make is that just like Mario and Luigi and Princess Peach and on the rest toad you you can like Depending on what you've taken and how you feel about yourself That's how you can sort of like kind of bebop through life. know what I mean? But but you know, it's funny Mike that the other side of this thing that that I deal with like that shows up like Shadow shows up in therapy for me all the time. As I say, like, I'm good at this stuff that we're talking about and you agree with me. But also, it has given me like a thing that I have to talk in therapy about often, which is like caring about what version of me the world sees. And sort of like being really, unaccepting, like judgmental and unaccepting. of the parts of me that are like the horny Santa Claus. So the reason I'm bringing the horny Santa Claus up is because when you describe that to me, you were using it to dis... It's such a good description. It is such a good description. But you were using it to like shit talk yourself, right? Yeah, was, And I was, and meanwhile I was like, I think that there's like a place in this world for a horny Santa Claus. Do you know what I mean? Cause like there's, there's like this, man, I don't know what it is about Santa Claus, but he's always just like kind of kind and he's got my eye and he's always bringing me gifts and he cares about me, but also like him being horny, it's like, okay, let's see what's up. Now again, I'm not talking about Santa Claus and children. I'm talking about Santa Claus and like adult humans who like were raised with the Santa Claus myth. But the point. saw mommy kissing Santa Claus kind of vibes. Yeah, yeah. like mommy issues, daddy issues, that kind of stuff. But what happens to me is, and I think is probably pretty common, is you were talking about that version of you from a negative standpoint. And someone like me who would talk about real, like certain versions of me that I never want the world to see, that I don't want my best friend Mike to see, that I don't want my family to see. Like, that just becomes part of the shadow work that I'm doing and it becomes real painful and like really... I mean, I'm not given too much away about like insights into my own personal, you know, therapy here. But that's the thing we talk about, like that's the thing we mostly talk about is these versions of me that I have a deep distrust and disdain for. And the versions of me that I want other people to see because of how much I... care about what people think or how much I deeply want other people to love me type of thing. Do you see why this is a cool two sides of the same coin? Yeah, because I'm realizing how like I'm riding a good wave right now, but like, okay, so maybe one night I go out and it's just kind of a meh night or whatever, or I'm feeling meh or I'm feeling sad. Like I get hit with another wave of grief or something and I don't want this to turn into a, okay, well, yeah, but let me just put on a happy face and you know, turn that smile, turn that frown upside down and smile that frown away or whatever, you know, the no one wants a frowny face. I, yeah, that's like opposite of what I want to like convey with it. because then you're trying to Samurai, cool Samurai Mike and trying to force cool Samurai Mike like smells like desperation, right? It just, it's like, right? Yeah. And it's like, if I'm just feeling a certain way, you just don't got it or some days you want it, you're sad or some days you want to be horny Santa Claus. Yeah. Dude, always think about, you know who is just like a great, intentional, present teacher is Tasha. You know what I mean? Tasha, if you're out there, I love you so much. my God. I've talked about some of the lessons that she's taught me, but one of my all-time favorites is we're at the revival festival, you and me, and it's been like a long ass day. of everybody tripping and doing multiples and re-upping and bumping and all that kind of stuff. And then it's nighttime and people are like, okay, it's time for the dance party and like, we're going to probably, we're probably going to like transition into some MDMA and get going. And you're like, I'm going up. there were a couple other people in our group. They were going up. I was just like, remember I was just cranky Doug. I was just so fucking tired and cranky I didn't want to go up and dance. And so I was like, give me a minute. I'm just going to sit alone for a sec. then you guys went up and then Tasha walked by and she and I were kind of chatting about that. And she was like, Doug, you don't need to be anything. You don't need to force yourself to do anything. You can just go rest. If you want to rest, you should just go rest. But the whole time I'm sitting there thinking, no, I want to be podcast Doug and go up to the Momozan Mushrooms camp and do my dance moves and do an MDMA and be that guy. but I was feeling like I was like getting ready to put on my costume about being that kind of Doug. And that kind of Doug can't force it, man. That kind of Doug is not fun to be around because he's just like a little grumpy Gus, know, a little grumpy bear. And Tasha was like, you know, you can be a grumpy bear. You don't need to go up there. You just, you can just sit. You can go to bed if you want. And I was like, fuck yeah, I'm going to bed. Like this is, I know this is all simple stuff, dude. I get it. But I think that there are people out there. more than just you and me that juggle this shit. Well, and I realized how good I am at getting down on myself too when I get self-blame. And so yeah, if it's this thing of like, okay, I'm gonna put on this costume or I'm gonna be all cool and get upgraded to first class and this, this, and this, it's like... You're already forcing something. You know what it's coming up for me with it? Is the boundaries kind of do. Is it weird to just kind of talk about boundaries with it? And because I think it's this thing of like, I think lately I've felt better because I've been really good at my nose and really good at knowing where my boundary is and knowing where I'm like leaking energy or I mean, even like when I'm talking about last night going to the bar, I was really content, really content to just chill in the corner. take cool pictures, not chat with anyone, just be in my own vibe. And then as I was sitting there like that, people sat next to me and then I'm like, I would like to talk to these people. But it wasn't a, I'm gonna walk in here, I'm gonna be the samurai warrior guy or whatever and like. No, it's like, no, I'm just gonna be in my own energy, put up my boundaries. If someone comes and talks to me and I don't wanna talk to them, I don't have to talk to them. I can walk away. I don't know, there's something about that boundary shit that I don't know, I've never been good at, and I'm getting better at. Yeah, dude. Honestly, that story. Listen, first of all, side note, I love the era. I love photography, creativity era mic. I'm loving it. Wow. I think that's cool to just be like, you know what? I'm going to go in and just get a feel for the vibe and just be in my own kind of thing for a minute and see if I can. Because what you're basically doing with the photography thing. is you're basically sort of like recalibrating yourself for presence, right? And then you're like, then you're taking a creative look at the world around you. know, God damn it, I'm going to mess up this quote, but Emerson, Ralph Waldo Emerson said, said something along the lines of like, you know, it's basically, you know, true something true something is, is about seeing beauty in the In the commonplace. I fucked up that quote. It's a great, know Emerson Emerson said it so it's like got all flowery and it's cool and to the point but that's what I think that you're doing Mike so I think that just by Like the the photography can be replaced by really any sort of like mindfulness activity But you going I love that story because you going into the bar and sitting with yourself for a second. It's being like, okay Let me actually see what's up in here and let my let my little photographic eye and my my ability to capture people as they truly are and the thing I love about them and sort of like the beauty of this like little area, that's making a huge difference in like allowing yourself to catch up to yourself, if that makes any sense. love that. Allowing yourself to catch up to yourself. Yeah, man. That's what I'm feeling. I know we're about, the bait's about to start, so I think we should wrap this up soon, but like, that's just kind of, I did wanna, I'm loving chatting about this. It's been a little chat. What? What? Okay, hold on a second here. Are we just wrapping up? Like that's it, huh? Well, is there anything more you want to add? was just, I'm just thinking of the terms. Yeah. I guess I just want to like go down that path for second of like, this is like the moment for missionaries where it's like recognizing the spirit. Dude, you tell the funniest, the way you tell recognizing the spirit, you know when you're talking about like pausing the Lord of the Rings and being like, how do you feel right now? Do you know what I mean? I'm doing that. I'm going to currently, I'm going to do that to us right now. Like the way you're feeling right now. is like that empowered feeling that that recognition of of an ensouled world that recognition of an enchanted universe that that recognition of your rightful like like presence in that enchanted universe it's fucking cool man i just wanted to like point out that there's an acknowledge like that there's a there's an opportunity to like to witness to observe it and this sense of Just kind of being more aware of when I'm trying to force an outcome and when I'm listening and just paying attention to the moment and Being okay with the moment regardless what the outcome is It's like, you know Yeah it's so true. Like there's a thing that I say to my, cause once in a while I'll go out. have a few single friends. You're one of my single friends. I have a few other single friends. And so I'll go out with them like in like groups or as just the two, like just me and a pal. And there's a feeling of like, you know how it's like, let's go from here to here and then from there to there and from here to there. And it's like, like keep on pushing, keep on driving, keep on searching for searching for like the, the, the, good, best thing or searching for a good time. We'll always talk about like, dude, you can't force the Like you cannot force the night. The night becomes us. Like the night like, like settles upon us. you know what I mean? And so it's like a recognition of if you're in your own spot and if you're in your own power, it's cool. Shit's going to happen. And sometimes it's not, and it's like, okay, let's just like not try to like force the issue and, and, and get into the fake parts of it. I think it's cool. And I love that line, you can't force the night. You can't force the night ooo. We've been saying that for years to my homies. Yeah. I think that's the first time I've heard that phrase. And I think it's a good motto to live by, and not even just when you're going out at night. you can't force a night. you can't force the night, man. You cannot bend the will of the world around you to fit your temporary desires, needs, whatever it wants. You just gotta roll with it. You just gotta surf, man. just gotta, can't force, yeah, I say that. You can't force the night. You just gotta surf it. Like, dude, you were kind of updating me on the other day as far as like, I'm at the beach and I'm just like feeling everything. I'm at this cool jazz organist band. Like you were updating me as your night was happening, as your day was happening. And it was just like, dude, you were going through a literal conversion. You were going through like a reclamation. I mean when I was on Ketamine I actually baptized myself in the ocean because it just felt like the right thing to do. It felt like a rebirth in a way. I don't think anyone has described ketamine better than you just did. When I was on ketamine, I baptized myself in the ocean because it felt like the right thing to do. Okay, somebody wants to know what it's like to do ketamine? That's the description from here on out. I'm going to put that in the bio. you know how every medicine has like a little, it's like, the little bio for ketamine. That's what I'm going to put in the bio for ketamine is one time I was on ketamine and I felt like And I baptized myself in the ocean because it felt like the right thing to do. That's it. By the way, I do want to add a disclaimer though. It was a very small amount because I do not- I'm not endorsing doing ketamine and going near any body of water. Hot tub, pool, ocean, do not do that. We are not endorsing. We are not- do not do as I did- I mean, even though it was a small amount, I would just say don't fucking do it. Yeah, I agree with that. Don't fuck with these things. yeah, tiny little bit of ketamine, don't go into the ocean. But like, you you're a strong swimmer and if you have just a tiny little bit, like we're not talking about the amounts that you want to talk about the amounts that certain people have been on to die in their hot tubs, right? by the way, it was like 45 minutes to an hour after I had taken the ketamine. So I was not in it anymore. You know what I mean? It was like I was in the light period afterwards. I wasn't, you know, ever going to K-hole in the ocean. I just wanted to clarify. Look, in fact, you know what? You kids out there, you stay away from drugs. You stay in school and you stay off drugs. And Mike didn't even do ketamine that day. We were just making up a story so that Mike could talk about the baptism and the jazz organist. Dude, went to a, you baptized yourself and then went to a jazz organist and it has not lost on me the value of an organ in music. You know what I mean? There's a religious. Yeah. Yeah, fuck yeah. And cool story. Cool story, bro. Cool story, and don't do drugs. Well, I just might try on horny Santa Claus for a little bit and see how it suits me. think that you could also give horny Santa Claus a try because there's something, like the little girl in me, the little boy in me is like, huh, okay. God, I gotta stop saying that. Like, I'm not trying to, just end it before I said that. Or don't, I don't fucking care. real good. No one thinks that only everyone listening but know. I know nobody thinks that, but I, know, if we live in a world where it's like, I got to like, I got to like self like edit, you know what I mean? But every single person on earth knows that I'm talking like that. I'm talking shit when I'm saying, dude, try out the horny Santa Claus and see what's up. Ho ho ho. We'll stop it there.