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When Violence Silences Freedom: The Charlie Kirk Tragedy
The brutal assassination of Charlie Kirk has left America reeling, forcing us to confront the devastating reality of political violence in our nation. In this raw, emotional episode, we process this tragedy together, examining not just what happened, but what it means for our collective future.
Charlie Kirk embodied something rare in today's political landscape—a willingness to engage with opposing viewpoints. His "prove me wrong" approach gave a platform to those who disagreed with him most, creating spaces for genuine debate rather than echo chambers. This openness made him not just influential, but dangerous to those who couldn't defend their positions when challenged with facts and reason.
We don't shy away from hard truths in this conversation. We examine the responsibility social media platforms bear for allowing graphic videos to spread unchecked, while mainstream media personalities and politicians who label opponents as "fascists" and "Hitler" create an environment where violence becomes inevitable. The statistics are chilling—studies show alarming percentages of respondents supporting political assassination as acceptable.
Yet amid the darkness, we find light in Erica Kirk's extraordinary response. Her powerful speech, delivered with grace and strength just days after losing her husband, has already inspired 37,000 new requests to start Turning Point chapters nationwide. She isn't just continuing Charlie's work—she's amplifying it, turning tragedy into powerful momentum for the values he championed.
As we navigate these troubled waters together, we return to one of Charlie's most profound pieces of wisdom: "When the world seems crazy, unplug. Put your phone away, turn off the TV, get back to what's important—embrace your faith and family." In a world increasingly defined by division, perhaps this simple advice offers the path toward healing our fractured nation.
Join us for this important conversation about where America stands at this critical turning point, and how we might honor Charlie Kirk's legacy by choosing unity over division, faith over fear, and love over hate.
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The freedoms we take for granted are being taken from us. America's greatest voices are being silenced. It's a sad, scary time in our country. Charlie Kirk was a visionary, a voice for the voiceless and a beacon of faith. The horrific, heinous violence that unfolded cannot be explained or understood. The horrific, heinous violence that unfolded cannot be explained or understood. My sadness, sorrow and confusion cannot be put into words. Instead, I chose prayer, reflection and time with my family. A night spent with my mother, my wife and my daughter ended with snuggles and cartoons. Instead of news and social media, I chose to love and protect my family while in the pit of my stomach I know, with the way of this world, I can't always protect them from hate and violence. Lord, help us heal our nation, protect our leaders, guide our children and give strength and courage to the Kirk family.
Speaker 1:Let me tell you something Everybody struggles. The difference is some people choose to go through it and some choose to grow through it. The choice is completely yours. Which one you choose will have a very profound effect on the way you live your life. If you find strength in the struggle, then this podcast is for you.
Speaker 1:Do you have a relationship that is comfortable with uncomfortable conversations. Uncomfortable conversations challenge you, humble you and they build you. When you sprinkle a little time and distance on it, it all makes sense. Most disagreements, they stem from our own insecurities. You are right where you need to be. I'll take on what I'm fighting for, lord. I'm being blessed to be back with each and every one of you today. No, I didn't feel comfortable doing our normal cheery intro today because it's difficult times that we are living in and I meant everything I said when I said I am blessed to be back with you because, after everything we've witnessed, everything that we've seen play out in social media, mainstream media and reality is that nothing can be taken for granted in this life. Our lives and our time certainly cannot be taken for granted. This is a difficult episode. It's an episode that you know we didn't really want to record because we know that you can't get away from this. You see it everywhere. You hear it everywhere. Hopefully, Hopefully, we put a different spin on it, but we needed to honor the man and to further the movement. There was no way we couldn't have this discussion.
Speaker 1:Share the Struggle podcast is always and will always be about having the courage and the strength to share our struggles. This is currently a struggle for our entire nation. We are all struggling through this time that we live in Knowing what you know about my wife and I and our family. Our business is Loud Proud American because we are some of the most patriotic people you will ever meet. Being those patriotic people, we have our own brand, named Loud Proud American, that focuses on American manufacturing. It puts an emphasis on the American spirit and it calls into focus the importance of being and remaining a Loud Proud American.
Speaker 1:Before we get going on this message, I want to maintain the fact that it has never been more important to remain a loud, proud American. For those people that are listening that are saying how can you stay that you're proud? How do you want to be loud after seeing what happened to one of the biggest patriots of our time for being loud? Here's the truth, folks If you run from evil, then evil will take over. If you hide in the darkness, we lose the light. It has never been more important to say what is right. It has never been more important to align yourself with other individuals than remain positive, optimistic and proud, proud patriots. We need to remain loud and proud the moment that the evil begins to feel that they can suppress your emotions and your beliefs with hate and discontent, they win. If you did not gain any vote of resilience, any shot of optimism and courage from Erica Kirk's speech, then hopefully you hear our message as well that says remain loud, remain proud, remain American.
Speaker 1:Our message today is to remain positive. Our message today is to call out the hate. Our message today is to remain positive. Our message today is to call out the hate. Our message and motive today is to spell what's right and what's wrong. I continue to say our message today because today I am yet again joined by my lovely, beautiful wife and as we have this conversation, I can't help but think and put myself or ourselves in the shoes of the Kirk family. How fortunate and blessed we are. I said I am blessed to be with you today, because I am blessed to be joined here by my wife today, because there are many Americans that cannot say the same. The Kirk family is not moving on and pressing on with the same. I feel very fortunate and blessed to be joined by my wife today.
Speaker 2:I thought that was the intro.
Speaker 1:I did the intro.
Speaker 2:My bad. You know, I was trying to remain incognito because I thought you were still doing the intro. My bad, you know. I was trying to remain incognito because I thought you were still doing the intro. My bad, here I am.
Speaker 1:Here you are. We both are very opinionated about this issue and what's happened and we've spent a lot of time talking about this, the impact it has on us as a family, welcoming in and raising a beautiful baby girl in this wild world, our business, our brand, everything that goes with it. We've had a lot of conversations about this and it's tough because we are quite aligned with Charlie Kirk and Turning Point and their message and their motive, their mission. I can't say you can never say I feel like that I'm 100% aligned with anyone, but we share a lot of the same beliefs and we certainly share a lot of the same message lot of the same beliefs and we certainly share a lot of the same message.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've watched Charlie Kirk's videos just about any time I turn on TikTok to get my daily news, I would always see a video or two of Charlie and I would always get stopped like dead in my tracks because quite a bit of what he was saying was something that you know, I aligned with. Like you said, there are a few things that I'm like I don, I don't know if I stand 100. I'm with you, like I hear you, and I'm like interested in what you're saying, but I'm not 100 aligned and I think that's with, like anybody with anybody, really any topic any reason.
Speaker 2:Like you can be aligned with some of what's happening.
Speaker 1:I feel like I I might be aligned with all of it, but I've never heard all of it. So I don't want to go out on a limb and say, hey, I'm 100% in on everything here. Then have somebody send me an article and be like you, stand for this.
Speaker 1:Ultimately he had a reason for everything and I probably would back everything, but I don't know and hear everything right but it's kind of funny the fact that we both were watching charlie kirk and didn't even discuss it, you know what I mean like, for it went on for years probably, where you were watching him on tiktok and I was watching him on the news you know, yeah, I always used to be like, hey, there's this guy, I don't know who he is like he's got some great things to say, like here, watch this video.
Speaker 2:And you're like, oh, that's charlie. And I'm like I don't, okay, I don't know. I like what he has to say. I don't know his name, I don't know who he is, but he was at the or. I remember the first time I brought it up I was like, yeah, there was this guy at the college and you're like, okay, and you like already knew who it was.
Speaker 1:But I didn't, I just found him on tiktok he's very unique because of his platform and the way he handled things. He opened himself to debate.
Speaker 2:I think he gave an opportunity for tons of people. He gave them a platform, exactly which is huge.
Speaker 1:That's one of the things. One of the first things you said to me when all this happened was and that rang true for me was you said even if you oppose him, he gives you the platform. Yeah, like you're using his platform, he's granting you the opportunity to debate him, to prove him wrong. The message on his tent has proved me wrong.
Speaker 2:He's giving you the opportunity to shed light on something that you feel true about, and he's allowing people to hear your side of the story and his. It's not like he's going out saying like this is my side of the story and this is how it is. No, he's going in front of thousands and thousands of people.
Speaker 1:He's opening himself up to anybody right.
Speaker 2:Well, right, but at the events in particular.
Speaker 1:Right, that's what I mean. He opens himself up to anybody.
Speaker 2:Yes, and anybody can stand in that line and ask him any question. And it's not scripted, it's literally like you can get up there and debate him live in the flesh.
Speaker 1:You don't need a script when you're shooting from your heart and your beliefs. Right, you're speaking the truth and in doing so, I think he revealed that so many of these people don't really know what they believe, and I think that was the gold in a lot of this is he gave them the opportunity. In my opinion, he gave the biggest platform to the people that disagreed with him most. So if you were somebody that was a polar opposite of him and his thoughts and his beliefs and the way he thinks, then he gave you the biggest platform. He gave you his platform and he gave you the opportunity. In doing so, I feel like he often undercovered that people don't really know what they believe. Like, they don't really believe in it. They've been brainwashed in it. They've been overfed something. You know what I mean, because as soon as he started asking factual questions, people had no clue how to handle it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they get choked up. They don't have the answer, had no clue how to handle it. Yeah, they get choked up. But he gave you the platform for it.
Speaker 1:He never ran from his belief and he gave everybody the opportunity to challenge those beliefs.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:So when you said, why would they take somebody out like this? That is literally giving them the opportunity. When you stop and think about it, they don't want the opportunity, no opportunity. When you stop and think about it, they don't want the opportunity. They don't want somebody like Charlie that's out there, that is smart enough, he's intelligent enough, charismatic enough, he has very strong faith. They don't want him out there debating and destroying the logic that they are trying to manifest. He was a threat. He was a threat because he was the cog in the wheel. That was truth. He was the cog in the wheel. That was opportunity. You think you're right? Show me. And they couldn't do it. And that was the biggest thing that they hated is, they knew they couldn't do it thing that they hated is they knew they couldn't do it.
Speaker 2:So if you, if you look back, there were tons of people that spoke truth and they were also shut up about it. Like he took the time to share his beliefs and share the way that he stands and his family stands and the people before him that did the same thing.
Speaker 1:They were shut down and basically like assassinated also or taken out in some way, shape or form I think that people were canceled, they were suppressed, they were um vilified, they were removed, they were never assassinated. And then we've certainly crossed the line, right, right, and I think that there was so much hate and, and today, as we're recording this, the actual um state of utah and the prosecution have come out and they've released a ton of evidence. And there's basically the motive from the killer, the man that assassinated Charlie Kirk or I shouldn't even call him a man, the sorry excuse of a human, and I will refuse to use his actual name because I will give him no credit. He said that there's only one way to get rid of this level of hatred. They couldn't debate, they couldn't convince, they couldn't rationalize, they needed to assassinate him.
Speaker 1:I can't stop thinking about the fact that this all unfolded live for the world to consume, as children going to school reading history books and going through all these classes, we hear the stories of Martin Luther King, we hear the stories of JFK, we hear the Abraham Lincoln, we hear these assassination stories, this history, but you'd never seen it. We saw an attempted assassination on a president and we saw an assassination on a patriot, a beacon of faith and a shining example of an American unfold. Live for everyone, for his children to always, forever see, for his family to always, forever relive. That, to me, is one of the worst things about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's terrible. Unfortunately, everything is in our cell phones nowadays and everything is, you know, readily available. Um, I mean, charlie's children right now are one in three, so it will be some time, um, before they have the ability to google their dad's name, but when they do gruesome videos, are going to come up like Like AI has already taken over this video and made it more gruesome than it actually was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you know, there are still shots of him like where the bullet actually, like he's, he takes on the bullet yeah, and it's even hard for us as adults to look.
Speaker 1:I don't watch it, I refuse to watch it at this point.
Speaker 1:I've seen enough of it. Right, I saw it when it happened and the only reason why I watched it when it happened was looking for a glimmer of hope that he was going to pull through. Right, you watch the video and say, oh my God, is there a chance? Like, did he miss? You know, did what happened here and the? After seeing the video, you know, once or twice you're like I, I don't think he's gonna make it and I don't want to see it anymore. I'm done with it. I don't want to watch this anymore. Right, and the sad thing is, is that for his family, for his friends, they can't not see it you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:See it right.
Speaker 1:His wife can't unsee the fact that when the news was breaking, it was everywhere. You could not turn your phone on on any social media platform, any form of media, without seeing real after real video after video of him getting shot in different angles and different perspectives, just everybody's a svu science expert and it's everywhere yeah, everyone's dissecting the guys behind him doing hand motions and this, that and the third.
Speaker 2:I just want to throw it out there that like, if you're taking the time to dissect the people, his own secret service. Like when I think, yes, of course they have hand signals, hello, it's the secret service for god's sake like I don't.
Speaker 1:I've never looked into his people, but he's not a politician, no.
Speaker 2:But he has security yeah, but I don't know if they're secret service, I don't know how trained his security is, but I'm sure they have signals and coordination that they've been using because they're all over the country doing these things and not only that, but like you don't know if they're going to be like someone 500 feet behind him that needs to throw up a signal like, hey, you know they have. They're throwing baseball signals so other people don't know what's going on. It's it's common knowledge, like so for people to be like. Oh yeah, that guy standing directly behind him called for the shooter Get a grip.
Speaker 1:I would assume that most of them and his team of security is they're assessing what's right in front of them, of course, at the gates, at the fence for them to rush the stage, those types of scenarios. That's what I would assume If people want to get into the whole thing of like what you should be looking into and conspiracy theories and this, and that I want to know why the person that asked the damn question isn't being investigated, because when that person's asking the question about mass shootings and transgender involvement, that's when the shot comes out. Yeah, I think there should be some kind of correlation there.
Speaker 2:And there's no way that that question wasn't related to the shooting, Because, let's be honest, if they are claiming that the shooter is what 200 yards away Is that what they're saying. Well, I mean, new news comes up. Comes up, says 140 yards away. You can't hear the question that far away. The person would have had to have some sort of extra on the ground if it was another person like related.
Speaker 2:And when we just watched the the trial, they're basically saying that they're not, uh, they're not ruling out that there's nobody else involved yeah because there's no way this shooter is in a relationship with a trans at the moment that they're not affiliate, that that question and him shooting him is not affiliated.
Speaker 1:It could be just, I mean, you could look at coincidental, you could look at he was waiting for that type of question, but he had to have heard it. But it happened early too and there had to be some kind of signal. There's all these things that makes me think like instantly when it happened. We're like somebody should find the person that asked the question and we should go there.
Speaker 1:If go there. If I back up my conversation a little bit and I talk about social media and mainstream media's involvement in this and the fact that they were just blaring these videos everywhere, I find that to be disgusting, I find that to be repulsive and as we start to look at this situation, I want to examine some responsibility, and I'm going to start with social media, because there's no reason why the technology at our fingertips couldn't suppress that video.
Speaker 1:Yeah there's no reason why those things needed to be put out for everybody's consumption. And I know there's options for doing this because, if we just think about the 2020 presidential debate and the election cycle, anytime somebody mentioned Hunter Biden's laptop, it was suppressed. It was taken down. Anytime I posted something Trump related, it was taken away. I myself was suppressed, right, it was taken away. I myself was suppressed, right. I know there's the ability to do this and social media didn't do anything to stop it and they continue to not do anything about it.
Speaker 1:I did hear today that one social media platform had to start doing something about it because there was so much about it and I never knew this platform existed, called Blue Sky. Have you ever heard of it? No, I didn't either. Blue Sky is basically the liberals version of TikTok. I mean of Twitter, I apologize. When Musk bought Twitter, turned it into X and started to show his colors as being a Trump supporter, then all these crazy lefties started losing their mind and they started this new social media platform called Blue Sky. Blue Sky had to suppress some of this stuff because it was all liberals celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:Think about this Right now, we're seeing people lose their jobs because they were celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. We're seeing politicians, we're seeing people in Congress. We're seeing all these you know celebrities, these influencers, celebrate his death. That in itself, um, it's sickening. The Omar Ilan whatever the hell her ridiculous name is this this bitch that's in congress that I don't understand how she should be deported just purely off of her hatred for america. The stuff that I've seen her say about charlie kirk and how you know we shouldn't feel sorry for him, and these people coming out and trying to blame president Trump for this is insane. They're now saying on left-wing media like ADC and MSNBC and all these things, they're actually now starting to say that these people that are losing their jobs is a part of MAGA cancel culture, that now Republicans are of the belief that if you don't see things the way we do, then we're going to get you canceled. This is now republican cancel culture. No, you fucking lunatic, you're celebrating the assassination of a political figure. That's this isn't cancel culture. This is reality. I can't. It's not the same thing as when the lefties went, went off their rocker in 2020 and canceled dr fucking seuss. No, you work at a university and you're celebrating the death of a patriot because they don't view the world the way you do, because this man of faith doesn't see the world the way you do. That's not cancel culture, you piece of shit. I can't even handle it.
Speaker 1:I don't know why they're not just putting a stop to all of this. I don't know why Democrats can't come out and condemn all of this. A man lost his life in front of his family, in front of his supporters. A man lost his life and will ever have that video played because he's a Christian, because he loves Jesus, because he's a patriot. I never thought we would live through these times. I thought this was over. I can't put it into words, but there's a grave responsibility that social media has, and I think they need to be held accountable for it. I think these things need to be stopped, because we are building a society of people that glorify this shit. They celebrate this and all you're doing is manifesting more of this. That's how I truly feel about it. President Trump himself said he refused to watch the video. He won't watch it. I wish I never had to watch it.
Speaker 2:He was a friend of Charlie's Exactly.
Speaker 1:I watch it and I think of his little girl, I think of his kids, I think of his wife. I don't like watching it. It has ruined my mental state for an entire week because I don't like watching it. I don't like talking about it, I don't like thinking about it. But the name of the podcast is Share the Struggle. We're going to share our struggles, so we're going to talk through this together and we're going to find some hope in this together.
Speaker 1:Part of this, for me, is calling bullshit to the rug. Part of this, for me, is examining responsibility, and social media has a great responsibility in this. Outside of social media, it starts with the so-called leaders, influencers and members of the media, because for years now, they have been labeling people like President Trump as Hitler. They've been labeling Trump and all of his supporters like Charlie Kirk, as fascists, and they are basically calling us dictators. They are saying that we're the versions of Hitler that need to be removed. You are raising a group of people that are now believing because a mainstream media member, a politician or an influencer said it's okay to take these people out because they are Hitler, because they are fascists. It's unbelievable to me. The responsibility needs to begin to be placed on these lunatic lefties, these celebrities and all this media that wants to continue to label Trump as Hitler, continue to do the same thing for Charlie Kirk and any other powerful person that surrounds themselves with President Trump. They tried doing it to Elon Musk.
Speaker 1:There's a study right now that Rutgers University did and it's on assassination culture that's being bred in the country right now. Rutgers University did this study and they basically interviewed a large amount of people that are, you know, whether they stand to the center, to the right or the left. Are they Republican? Are they Democrats? Are they far leaning left? Are they, you know, in the center, the folks that are far left, openly admitting to being far left, taking claim and being far left, being asked questions about assassination culture, being asked? Do you think it's okay for Elon Musk to be assassinated? Did you see this study on the news?
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 1:So Rutgers University asked Republicans and Democrats. The far-leaning left answered they think 50% of the people that were questioned thought it was okay and they would condone or they would accept someone assassinating Elon Musk.
Speaker 2:Oh, is that the video? There's a video going around that someone was walking around a campus asking a bunch of young people?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I didn't see any video. This is from Rutgers University, so it's an actual poll. There's thousands of people that were questioned.
Speaker 1:And over 50% of Democrats said they would support and they would justify and they're okay with the assassination of Elon Musk. The assassination of Elon Musk Over 56% of them said it was okay and they would support the assassination of President Trump. Over 60% of the population that was surveyed that are liberals are saying yeah, man, kill the president. I think that would be a great idea. That doesn't happen unless you have influences out there, politicians out there, saying he's Hitler, he's a dictator, he's destroying this country. Without that narrative, people aren't thinking that ridiculous. So these things are being manifested, they're being put out there. These politicians, these influencers, are saying crazy shit, not because they're going to do anything about it, but because they're manifesting you to do something about it. This has to end.
Speaker 1:I'm over it. I can't. It's sickening to me. There's channels on TV that I will no longer tune into because I do not want to have this hate rhetoric thrown down my throat. I refuse to watch programs that I used to actually enjoy because I can't stand for the nonsense that they are spewing.
Speaker 1:I just saw, before we turned on the podcast, that Jimmy Kimmel last night in his monologue who I've never watched the Jimmy Kimmel show because I'm sure it's hot garbage, but in his monologue last night he was saying how, basically, the assassin is probably MAGA, and you'll notice all Republicans and all supporters of Trump trying to distance themselves from this person as fast as they can for political motives.
Speaker 1:No, you ridiculous piece of shit. Let it play out and then realize the person that did this is in a love relationship with a transgender individual and he is certainly not MAGA. It's ridiculous. People forget that Jimmy Kimmel made himself famous watching girls jumping on trampolines and having as many sexist jokes possible with him and Adam Carolla in the man show. That shit is so far forgotten at this point, when he can stand up and try to call Trump sexist, try to call Republicans racist. I don't think he is being very forthcoming about his own history and past, and it's examples like that that make me refuse to watch this nonsense. What do you got to say over there? I'm losing my breath over here, I don't really know.
Speaker 2:I'm just, I guess moral support here today.
Speaker 1:I'm just blown away by it that we continue to allow it, that celebrities continue to condone it. I've seen celebrities basically celebrate the death of Charlie Kirk. I will never give you another cent of my money. I will not support anything that you produce, that you star in, that you act in, that you talk about. I'm done with you and we need to hold these people accountable. Right now on the news they're showing Discord, which I thought Discord. I always thought was just a gaming-like platform.
Speaker 2:It is, but they have chats inside of it.
Speaker 1:So in these dark corners of the web, Discord, they have these chats and I mean they're saying this asshole had notified like 30 people as to what was going on, that he was considering um doing this, you know it's the same idea with, like minecraft and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:They have like um chats within the gaming system, so they're basically like you can openly chat, like you're just having a conversation with some friends on there, um, whether they track what's being said or not, is I mean they're claiming that they're reading through all of the communication and they don't see anything, but they're also probably just turning a blind eye because they don't want to have anything to do with it.
Speaker 2:I mean, would you want to have anything to do with it? I mean, would you want to have anything to do with it? I mean, if there was something that I could provide, they should have prevented it.
Speaker 1:They should have prevented some of this stuff. They should be alert to some of this stuff Because you know what? There was alerts during 2020 and during all of Biden's presidency. There was alerts to Christian gatherings. There was alerts to this church is holding a service when they shouldn't be, because we're supposed to be sheltering in place during COVID. They were letting alerts out to that and churches were getting shut down. They were letting alerts out to people that were pro-Trump and they should be called into court for this.
Speaker 1:All these ridiculous things. People were getting cease and desist letters for saying negative things online about hillary clinton. Like these technology companies had the ability to read this shit, these all this. Ai should be going through and finding all this shit my search history on being so patriotic and going through and researching charlie kirk and some of these definitions and things that we go to. They probably watch and read the shit that I say. I bet Alexa right now is recording the shit that we say because we disagree with some of this nonsense, but it's not used for good. I don't understand how we can't go through, comb these things. Be proactive to these things. Ai should have the ability to do that. They should be. They showed themselves to us. They proved to us during COVID. They had the ability to do these things because they were shutting so many things down that people planned on the internet because of COVID. You know what I mean. There's the opportunity there, there's the ability for you to do this. You should be doing it.
Speaker 1:If I can write something, put it this way how many times have you been placed in Facebook jail because you said something on Facebook that they thought was threatening? Like? How many times just, somebody said something like I'm going to come over there and kick you in the nuts and they were shut down for it? My cousin, my cousin Joey's been in Facebook jail a hundred times for saying, like F you, I'm going to punch you in the face, just joking half the time. So you're telling me that you can't see a message where I'm planning an assassination for anything like this. You can't put a stop to that, you can't put a red flag to that. It just seems crazy to me. I there needs to be accountability for social media.
Speaker 1:And when I get back to mainstream media and all these people that are out there saying you know Trump's Hitler and he's a dictator and he needs to go, and they start labeling all Republicans as fascists. You and I both said let's look into this term a little bit more and start to get a better understanding of it. Definition-wise, basically, a fascist is a dictator, centralized power, heavily concentrated at the center, leaving little or no room for representative democracy or other liberal government practices. So this asshole that came out and assassinated Charlie Kirk. He was writing things on ammunition and one of them was hey, fascist catch. So he's labeling Charlie Kirk as a fascist and by definition it literally says leaving little or no room for representative democracy or other liberal government practices. You literally wrote this on a shell casing and assassinated a man who was leaving optimum room, who was actually partaking in democracy, in allowing liberal policies and government to be discussed. He was literally the opposite of this. He was giving them a platform for this discussion.
Speaker 1:Ultranationalism the movement prioritizes the nation above all else, often relying on a mythic or imagined historical past and a narrative of national decline. We know the nation's been in decline for the past four years, but you don't need to create something about it. Militarism and violence Fascism glorifies military strength and views violence as legitimate and even a purifying tool for achieving national goals. So, by definition, a fascist views violence as legitimate and a purifying tool to achieve national goals. This does not at all sound like President Trump. This does not at all sound like Republicans. If we go back to the study from Rutgers that says 56% of liberals are saying it would be a good thing to assassinate President Trump, that right in itself, by definition, is a part of being a fascist Suppression of opposition, opposing political parties, labor unions and other dissenting groups and are forcibly repressed to remove any challenge to one party state. They murdered a man because he opposed their beliefs. They murdered a man because he is not aligned with their beliefs. Can we not understand what's happening here?
Speaker 1:Scapegoating Fascist movements often rely on the demonization of internal or external others, such as ethnic or religious minorities, immigrants or political opponents, to unify their population. All these politicians, all these influencers, mainstream media members that are out there now demonizing President Trump, demonizing Charlie Kirk they're doing these things to unify their population. They, by definition, in scapegoating they are segregating religious minorities and political opponents. They don't believe in Christianity. They were mortified by Charlie's strong convictions and belief in Jesus Christ. If you think about this for a moment, they are demonizing your religion. They are demonizing your president, they are demonizing all political beliefs that you have that do not align with theirs, because they are unifying their population, their lunatic population that believes it's okay to assassinate someone. Social hierarchy fascism promotes a belief in a natural social hierarchy and an inherent inequality among different groups.
Speaker 1:And propaganda. Sophisticated propaganda techniques are used to build popular support and promote the movement's agenda, aka your social media nonsense that I'm talking about right now. That's a sophisticated propaganda. They're suppressing what should not be suppressed. They are releasing what should be suppressed A lot of these rallies and political nonsense things that are happening. They are funded by just big politician and big business. This is ridiculous. The crazy liberals always deploy the same game plan. Let's label our adversaries as what we actually want to be. That way, we can't have our true actions or beliefs criticized. That's my rant on responsibility. You feel okay with my rant. I'm making your chair squeak and I apologize. You bought a nice new leather office chair and I'm making contact with tables and chairs and elbows and I'm getting a little heated.
Speaker 2:Don't bring my chair into this.
Speaker 1:In case anybody hears it out there I'm not.
Speaker 2:Gassy from dinner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I haven't had dinner yet.
Speaker 2:I'm just.
Speaker 1:I don't even know how to the.
Speaker 2:TV says temperature check yeah.
Speaker 1:You're absolutely right. So there's an actual Democrat right there, john Fetterman. I'm going to give him credit because I was never a Fetterman fan and over the past year I've actually seen him come to some senses and offer some actual insight and common knowledge and way of thinking to the Democrats. He's calling for a temperature check amongst all this political hate, because the truth is, if one side is constantly coming out there and labeling Trump as Hitler, saying he's a dictator, they're labeling all Republicans as fascists. You are creating this hotbed of hostility and eventually, at some point, somebody on the right, some right wing folks that maybe are leaning far right, they're going to act out. And then what's going to happen? Because, if you think about this, when Charlie Kirk was assassinated in front of all of us, a man that many of us love and respect were there any riots? Was there any looting? Was there any violence? We all know the answer was no.
Speaker 2:Can we just take a moment and look at his outfit? He's always like this.
Speaker 1:He's always like in a hoodie and shorts and doesn't give two shits. I know, I know.
Speaker 2:That's not professional At least here he's wearing a collared shirt.
Speaker 1:That's part of the reason why I was.
Speaker 2:He's probably wearing basketball shorts underneath or no pants at all, but at least he put a collar on as part of the we had that.
Speaker 1:Whatever he was king of wherever, come over not wearing a suit and tie and, like everybody like, demolished him on what he was wearing how come they're not talking about him well, they used to um, and it used to be one of the things that I was like how is this? How do we take this guy serious? But, uh, the more you listen to him he actually not always, but he has some common sense and it's somebody that you could certainly have a debate and a normal civilized conversation with, and you just wish democrats would maybe take his lead. There's no reason right now to not establish common ground with all parties right now. I mean, I'd never in a million years thought we'd be at a point where democrats are trying to justify the assassination of charlie kirk by saying well, I mean, have you heard some of the things he said?
Speaker 2:well, I mean just before this, obviously like we weren't paying attention too much, because old luigi and mario over here, yeah, we're not on trial, but today they're on trial and they're like hooting and hollering and celebrating a party out on the front lawn of the court because some of his cases were dropped, like also another man that murdered another man cold-blooded, clearly planned um one of the things they're giving, taking off of the table, was that it wasn't premeditated.
Speaker 2:So what you mean to tell me right now is that this man was just walking down the street with a silencer and a hand a handgun, and just was like you know what that guy looks important.
Speaker 1:Let me just take him out. Just going to happen to take out the head of an insurance company that I have a battle with? I don't think so, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't believe in coincidences. I don't, I don't. It's just not something that I believe in, that I believe in.
Speaker 1:The whole LeMangini whatever Luigi effect is part of what I'm worried about with this trial that's going to take place in Utah, because the moment people start to come out and support him and protest for him and raise money for him, I'm going to lose my ever-loving mind.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, the good thing about this one is that it doesn't seem like it's going to be too much time, like they already have a trial date set for september 29th.
Speaker 1:The problem is going to be that they're going to say we can't find a jury because everybody in utah knows about this scenario. We're going to have to move out of utah. Um defense is going to start pushing for that. Utah has the death penalty. They can try to find their way out of it. Also. Utah pretty certain has firing squad for the part of the death penalty. That's one of their options, if you're asking me. This son of a bitch deserves to die the same way he took charlie out firing squad yes that's a.
Speaker 2:Thing yes I honestly believe I'm there with you, like I think I mean this is like a whole other topic for a whole other time, but like for me, when I think about like the death penalty, it really chaps my ass. I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And here's why I'll give you like a quick short and Curly. Yeah, if you are on death row, okay. Do you want to tell me why people on death row are still on death row? Let's talk about one person in particular Boston Marathon bomber. Yeah, still alive. Doesn't make sense, but he's on death row Wasting tax paying dollars.
Speaker 1:and here we are. Yeah, he has a roof over his head, he has warm food in his belly every single day.
Speaker 2:three times a life. Yeah, he has a roof over his head. He has warm food in his belly every single day, three times a day.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He has medical treatment when he needs to like, but he murdered hundreds of people.
Speaker 1:We need a firing squad for this lunatic, and if you want to talk about the video for charlie kirk not being suppressed, then we'll have some video for this piece of shit that's not suppressed. Yeah, and when all his supporters watch his head explode like a watermelon after a 50 cal goes through his forehead, then maybe they'll understand that you don't mess with jesus, you don't mess with patriots and you don't pull this lunatic nonsense.
Speaker 2:But you have to think, though, like, if that's the case, like I'm 110% on board, like you know, if you read the Bible, if you did something outside of you know the box you were taken to town and you were stoned Like not getting high, but like you were stoned like not getting high, but like you were stoned to death.
Speaker 1:so like we should be doing that, like you know, if you yeah, that's a whole other debate that we could get into here, but and there's some of that stoning stuff. You see, overseas is pretty gruesome and ridiculous.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, so wasn't the death on charlie kirk, but what I'm saying is that, if that is what's going to happen which you and I both know it's not going to happen they'll do it behind closed doors and it'll be his family and maybe Erica.
Speaker 1:I kind of feel like this could be a case in US history where an example is made, accountability is established, responsibility is established is established, responsibility is established and, um, the right people are in charge to make this piece of shit pay and set an example for everybody else but what I was going to say is that if that's the case and they do advertise it, let you, let us watch, we as the bigger people.
Speaker 2:I guess you can say we need to make sure that we do not celebrate his death right because then we're just as bad. I understand that that is the right thing to do I'm gonna disagree with you on this one well, I mean, I understand that like, yes, we want him, we want him gone.
Speaker 1:I celebrated when os Osama bin Laden was put to death. I will certainly celebrate when this piece of shit is put to death.
Speaker 2:I know, but what I'm saying is that there are people right now that stand on the same side that we do, that are Going out in public saying you are a piece of shit and you are a terrible human if you are celebrating the death of any man.
Speaker 1:I understand what you're saying, but this person assassinated someone.
Speaker 2:I understand that.
Speaker 1:He deserves what's coming to him. Absolutely I will celebrate right and wrong. I will celebrate the accountability, responsibility. I will certainly celebrate someone that assassinated a man in front of his wife. I will celebrate someone being put to death that assassinated and destroyed Charlie Kirk's family, Charlie Kirk's family, the pain that his family is going to have to endure.
Speaker 2:his friends, I will celebrate the death of this disgusting human being.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's what it is on this one. If he was just a civilian in the street and this happened, no, I'm not going to celebrate it, but I'm telling you right now you stole something. You stole an American treasure. You stole an American icon. You stole a father, you stole a husband, you stole a brother, you stole a son.
Speaker 2:I understand you deserve what's coming to you. I just think that the left side doesn't look at it that way. They're going to look at it as like oh look, now you're celebrating the death of someone.
Speaker 1:You're damn right I am, because he took from us.
Speaker 2:But that's how they feel about Charlie.
Speaker 1:I don't understand what you're saying here, because Charlie didn't take anything from them.
Speaker 2:That's what they think.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying me. I'm not saying me personally. I understand that, but I don't. I still don't think that they're saying he took anything from them. I think that they're saying he didn't believe the way we believe.
Speaker 1:He, um, is a fascist. He is this, he is that. He didn't take anything from them. He's suppressing our beliefs. He doesn't agree with our philosophies. He doesn't agree with my religion. He doesn't agree with my sexuality. He must go. It's not that he took anything from them. He didn't see life the way they saw it, so he must go. He's leading a large group of people that agree with him, that disagree with us. He is a polarizing figure. He's in a position of power. He helped this president win an election because he rallied the youth vote. He must go. That's the way they looked at it. That's how I feel about it. I can certainly say that if some lunatic assassinated a member of my family, murdered somebody in my family, you were not going to tell me that I'm not going to celebrate the murder of that person, the death of that individual. You know what I mean. Look at it that way. If somebody shot me today and they went on trial and they got the death penalty, would you or would you not celebrate their death?
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't really know. I mean obviously like I don't want you to die, hello, obviously. But I'm not like, I think it's, I think it's bigger than this and I I just think that we don't want to be looked at as they're being looked at right now.
Speaker 1:We have reasons for what we would be doing.
Speaker 2:I agree with you.
Speaker 1:We are upholding the law and justice and there are consequences and these people, they continue to live in this life unchecked, without consequences. Then none of us are safe.
Speaker 2:I agree with you and I agree that you know he deserves the death penalty and he deserves a quick, quick trial. Like I am there 110% I just think that I don't know. There needs to be caution with the way that it's handled, with the way that it's handled.
Speaker 1:I don't think there's going to be a Super Bowl parade for the way that it's handled, but I think that justice needs to be served.
Speaker 2:I agree.
Speaker 1:And consequences need to be established.
Speaker 1:Accountability responsibility needs to be upheld and I hope they don't drag this out. I feel like they're going to drag this out, but I feel like this're going to drag this out. But I feel like this sorry excuse of a human needs to be put to death. It needs to be done quickly and we need to get the point across that this is not acceptable. It also wouldn't be acceptable if someone came out and assassinated um you know freaking Barack Obama or something right. They would be put on trial and put to death just the same. And that's my whole point, where they're saying temperature check right. And to establishing common ground.
Speaker 1:After Charlie Kirk's assassination, no right wing political groups went out there and rioted. They didn't light businesses on fire, they weren't shooting and looting in the streets. That didn't happen. But we know, if temperatures remain unchecked, if things remain the way they are, at some point, someday, some way, that's going to happen. The right side, eventually, there's going to be a portion of the right that begins to fight back. There's going to be a portion of the right that they might decide.
Speaker 1:We need to make an example, we need to put an end to this and right now the right is not in all of us. We don't think that's the way of going about it. But there is definitely far, far right lunatics as well that are hiding in the woods somewhere that are thinking if this shit doesn't come to an end, I'm going to bring it to an end. You can't tell me. There's not people thinking that way. If they don't put a cool to the temperature, if they don't establish common ground, this world can come unhinged. Right now is the opportunity for Democrats to come out and say we are not about this. We stand with Charlie Kirk, we stand with his family. This is not the way things should be. We stand with freedom of speech. We stand with debate. This is not the way things should be. But they're not doing that. They're celebrating it, and by celebrating it they are creating a boiling pot of hot tensions in this country, and we can't have that.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 1:I don't want to end this podcast on just hot rants and hot takes over what's happened and where the blame goes and the direction for this trial and all these things. I want to end it with the biggest sign of courage, of resilience, of compassion, and that was the speech that Charlie's wife made. I know that you watched that entire speech and and it um really hit home for you. So, uh, I'd like it if you would share a few thoughts on um watching that 16, 17 minute speech and some of the conversations that we we had after that.
Speaker 2:I just think that she's a huge inspiration. She just shows um grace, strength and power across the board. I think um within 24 hours or 48 hours, I can't remember what the time frame was of her husband being assassinated. She got up there and performed the most beautiful, heartfelt speech. That goes to show that she has no interest in like anything other than making her husband's mission bigger and better than it has ever been. At this point, she doesn't care about left or right.
Speaker 2:She cares about her husband's mission and she cares about um turning point and she's planning on making that bigger and better than she, than Charlie, ever thought, and the message of her going through saying like his podcast will continue, his meetups will continue. Turning point will be larger than it's ever been and, if you know, we haven't written a chapter for you, write one like yeah and we watched today. 37 000 new chapters have been requested like she's gonna do things, she's gonna move mountains and she's gonna show her kids that, no matter the setback, you keep moving you don't let them hold you down.
Speaker 1:There was 3 400 chapters and, like you said, uh. Since that that speech has been 37 000 inquiries about opening up their own chapters of uh turning point. This we can only hope is, in fact, a turning point in this country that this assassination of Charlie Kirk can be a turning point to resolve differences, to find common ground, to embrace fate, to become bigger in our faith, like Charlie always said, even when he started his speech there in Utah, because there's a lot of Mormons in Utah, and he said listen, I'm not here to debate your faith. We both believe in Jesus. Like, I'm okay with this, you believe what you want to believe, I believe what I want to believe. We both believe in Jesus. Agree to disagree, we all know, in the end, where we're going, and I think that he's an incredible man of faith and a beacon of faith and an inspiration, one that draws me closer to opening the Bible right, to trying to honor him with your own commitment to faith.
Speaker 1:If this country gets back to faith, I think we're going to find a lot of common ground. We're going to solve a lot of differences. Faith I think we're going to find a lot of common ground, we're going to solve a lot of differences the moment that we begin to recognize and feel compassion for the fellow human, like that's part of the battle. People aren't humanizing people. These people that say, 50% of people that say it's okay to assassinate Elon Musk, or 56% say it's okay to assassinate Elon Musk, or 56% say it's okay to assassinate Donald Trump they're not humanizing them people. They're not looking at those people as humans. When we embrace faith and we begin to humanize people, I think we can find some common ground.
Speaker 1:If Turning Point takes off the way that she's pushing it to the way that people are interested in it, that's a monster movement. His social media platforms gain millions and millions of followers and likes. I think the positive message that they spread is is a positive opportunity for this country yeah, y'all need jesus amen to that, but I think turning point this could be the turning point for our country.
Speaker 1:I hope and pray this is the turning point for our country. We are at that turning point. We must decide which way to go. Are we going to continue to bubble up hate? Are we going to continue to ramp up the temperature on this melting pot of political violence? Or are we going to say no on this melting pot of political violence? Or are we going to say no? Embrace faith, embrace humanity and resolve our differences, establish common grounds.
Speaker 2:I truly hope and pray that's the direction for this country. I hope so. I think she has the ability to do it. She, I mean in her speech. She said her cry out will be a roar.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I have no doubt in my mind, based on the way that she stood up there and she had tear jerking moments, she had moments that pulled your heartstrings. She had moments up there where she laughed Like she was so strong and showed so much compassion and just strength. Like you could tell, and lots of people have actually gone out and talked about what she was clenching the entire time and she was clenching the most beautiful. They didn't say whether it was a bracelet or a necklace, but it was a cross, but it had charms. Every now and again, and every time I heard it, heard her jingle it or something, it just rang through me with like, such grace and such like peace.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just like you hear, like in the church when they hit the chimes and that sort of thing, you just feel it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And she didn't. She doesn't intend to do that, it was just something she had on her, on her hand, resonated with you. Yeah, you know it was awesome I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't know how someone can be that composed and that compassionate to deliver the remarks that she did when she did them, and I think that her speech can unify it can. It can find common ground. It can unite folks. There's a lot of people that either didn't know charlie kirk or didn't agree with him, um, but him being assassinated and the way in which this has unfolded, they have said, whoa, this isn't for me. Yeah, I'm said whoa, this isn't for me, I'm not about this life, this isn't for me. And they've opened themselves up more. That's the turning point, right.
Speaker 2:That's the turning point where if and I think she resonated with tons of people, not necessarily who stood for what Charlie had to say, but she's now resignating with moms, she's now resonating with widows, people who have lost their husbands or partners Would she maybe even murderers? You know, she has taken a stance on this situation that has allowed another platform.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, a whole other platform, massive, yep.
Speaker 2:And that, right there is exactly what Charlie would have wanted. He wouldn't want his mission to die with him, and she's going to be certain that that that rings true.
Speaker 1:It's definitely going to go bigger than it probably ever would have with him right the people. This is brought to the forefront and has um garnered attention from people that never would have imagined. I think that Turning Point is going to appeal to many people that they never even thought possible. So this world needs to make sure that this man did not die in vain, that his mission lives on, because it is a good mission, it is a worthy mission, it is a godly mission, it is one that can help unify and save this country and it must carry on. And in the way in which this has happened and unfolded, it has got the attention of more people than Charlie could have ever imagined. They are using an NFL stadium for his memorial on Sunday. That in itself is incredible For me, with all of this and everything that was going on when the news happened, when this broke and we watched the video and we were clinging to our phones waiting to hear that, hopefully praying for him and his family, that hopefully he could pull through and he would make it.
Speaker 1:We all prayed for that and we hoped for that, but I became overcome with fear, fear of reality that this world is scary, the reality that you can't protect your loved ones from this world, the reality that it is all out of your control.
Speaker 1:That fear began to overcome me the more times I saw the video replayed on the news and the conversations and the heartache and the heartbreak and all those things that were unfolding.
Speaker 1:It was getting to me, and as it should. We should all mourn and we should all take time to reflect and to realize the realness and the severity and the seriousness and the reality of the situation. But during that time, I actually fell back on some advice that I saw from Charlie Kirk, some advice that rang true for me, that I've held on to since the moment. I've seen him deliver it, and we were talking earlier how we both were Charlie Kirk fans. Actually, a couple of months ago, Charlie came to Maine and we were hopeful to go to his event. I received an email from it's like a Republican group that I'm a part of saying that he was going to be coming just a couple towns away from us and we wanted to go there, but I think we had a wedding or an event or something that we were doing tickets were sold out oh, I would have gotten them.
Speaker 1:I was on the republican, like invite, like email, but we, um, we were somewhere already so we couldn't, we couldn't actually make the event.
Speaker 1:They were already sold out because I was notified before they even released it. Remember, remember, I came to you and said, hey, I just got this email. But there's all these quotes and things that I remember from Charlie or that we were motivated by, but the biggest one, the one that's always stuck with me and I don't know it pray for Charlie and his family and to give them the strength and the courage and hope that he could pull through. But I took his advice, and his advice was when the world seems crazy, when all these things are spiraling around you, unplug. Put your phone away, put it in the drawer, shut it down, turn the TVs off, get away from it, get back to what's important, embrace your faith and embrace your family and do those things. That social media isn't reality, that your phone isn't reality. What's in front of you, what's next to you, that's reality.
Speaker 1:So during those times, I took the moment to take in all that was happening. I prayed for Charlie and his family and I continued to pray for him and me and my family put our phones away and we went out. We went to a county fair, we spent time together, you and me, my mother and our beautiful baby girl and we unplugged ourselves, just the way Charlie Kirk told us to do. We celebrated and embraced our time with each other. And we came home and I refused to turn the news on because at that time we knew that Charlie didn't pull through. I was not going to turn the news on and go to sleep that way. You me and our little baby girl laid in bed and watched Bluey and spent time together. That is what Charlie Kirk told us to do.
Speaker 2:She loves.
Speaker 1:Bluey, I implore each and every one of you, when you find yourself overcome with emotion, whatever that is, if it's hate, if it's fear, if it's sadness, de-stress, unplug. Get back to what's important. Put your phone away, turn the TV off, pray today and spend time with your family today. That's one lesson I learned from Charlie Kirk. I hope you all learned it too.
Speaker 2:I sent you that message and your or that quote. You sent me that one. Yeah, and you know what your response was yeah, right, you could never do that. I have that. I have that message. I sent you that because I said well, that's a really good point.
Speaker 1:Well, pull it up. You still have it available. Oh yeah, maybe the people can hear the real version, because here I am just rambling on on what my own version of it is, what my own truth of it is, and I think it's fitting for us to actually end today's episode on some actual words from Charlie Kirk. So hopefully you can track that down and pull that out. I hope that the sentiment of today's show is that there's no right or wrong way to feel. You and me are debating how we should feel about the death penalty on someone. You and me are provoking thought and conversation about the world that we live in and the times that we're in and the situation that we're dealing with, and I hope that all households are doing the same thing.
Speaker 1:That's one of the great freedoms of this country, that's one of the things that Charlie Couric celebrated most. That debate, that conversation that this is how I feel, this is how you feel. Let's establish what's the right way to feel here. That conversation, those fundamental values are so wholeheartedly, charlie Kirk. So I hope and pray that that message rang true from us today. I hope that the message of true from us today. I hope that the message of responsibility rang true today that responsibility should be thrown at social media. Responsibility should be thrown at all forms of media that continue to label hate, that continue to call out fascists and label people as Hitler. Those things need to stop. A temperature needs to be turned down, we need to be cooled down and we need to find common ground.
Speaker 2:July 30th, 3.01 pm. I had sent you the video. All right 3.24,. You watched the video and responded.
Speaker 1:Okay, wow, calling me right out, huh.
Speaker 2:Pretty cool. I don't think you'd be able to. I don't think you'd be able to. I don't think you'd be okay with this one though. Ha ha ha. My response at 325, middle finger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, sounds exactly like you. I watch this video a bunch of times because it just is some of the best advice, I think, that anybody can give.
Speaker 2:Yep, here he is. I think that anybody can give Yep.
Speaker 4:Here he is. I'd love to know your thoughts on Sabbath and how practically your family practices this and applies it. As the wife, I have seen it transform him in a way that is so powerful that when he turns his phone off and it goes in that drawer and I know that he's all on for the family there is no distractions and he finally gets to reset his brain. He finally gets to breathe and as a wife, there is nothing more precious than my husband's sanity when it comes to the echo chamber and everything that he's dealing with in his world. So I have seen it change him and impact our family in one of the most beautiful ways.
Speaker 3:I think that, to our own detriment and to our own failure, we as Christians have decided to cast away resting on one of the seven days. God rested after creation. That comes before the Hebrews, it comes even before the creation of the modern world and civilization as we know it, and it says very clearly in the scriptures for six days you shall work and the seventh day you shall rest. If you are feeling overrun by society, you might be feeling depressed or anxious. Here's just one way that you might be able to improve Turn your phone off for one day. No contact, no social media, no work. Your mental health will improve dramatically.
Speaker 3:That is a day to go, be with God. That is a day to read your Bible and be out of the busyness and the hurriedness and the anger and the noise of this world, go back to God's natural rhythm. And it's made our family much tighter knit and I could be traveling for five or six days, but if I at least get one good Sabbath with my family, it charges all back up. I would love to know your thoughts.
Speaker 1:It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2:That's that.
Speaker 1:I actually get emotional hearing his voice and hearing those words, because I don't know how someone can develop so much hate for that man. I don't know how an individual can become so overcome with hatred that they spend a week plotting a way to assassinate that man.
Speaker 2:It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 1:It really doesn't. It just goes to show we never truly know what people are thinking and how they're feeling. It's never that bad, y'all. It's never that bad. And I don't know how you can just hate somebody so much, without even knowing somebody, that you do what you did. I don't know how you can hate a man that is so full of faith. It's hard to understand, it's hard to understand, it's hard to fathom.
Speaker 1:But as much as it's a downfall and as much as it's painful to know that the video of his assassination will live on the benefit of this widespread media that we have, is that Charlie's message. All those quotes, all those debates, all those conversations, all those moments of inspiration, those two will always live on. They're going to grow up knowing what an amazing man their father is and his message and his legacy turning point is going to blossom and grow far beyond anything he ever imagined. With all that said, I know today's conversation was a heated one, a debated one. I just hope that we can find some common ground from today. And I hope that we can find some common ground from today and I hope that we can just agree to spread his message today and lean into our faith. Take some time with God and spend some time with your family.
Speaker 2:Thank you for supporting Charlie's American dream. Now go wash your freaking hands.
Speaker 4:You filthy, savage.
Speaker 1:That's it and that's all Biggie Smalls. If you're a Loud, proud American and you find yourself just wanting more, find me on YouTube and Facebook. At Loud, proud American Put the face page, as my mama calls it. If you're a fan of the Graham Cracker, want to find me on Instagram. Or all the kids are tickety-talking on the TikTok. You can find me on both of those. At loud, underscore, proud, underscore American. A big old thank you to the boys from the Gut Truckers for the background beats and the theme song to this year's podcast. If you are enjoying what you're hearing, you can track down the Gut Truckers on Facebook. Just search Gut Truckers. Give them, motherfuckers, a like too. Make it bleed, I hate to say. I told you so. Feel the pain. Make it bleed, I hate to say. I told you so. I truly thank you for supporting my American dream. Now go wash your fucking hands, you filthy savage.