Good morning. Good morning.

Good morning.

This is your host Wyatt Tucker with the best the parks way podcast or the parks boy podcast I'm sitting across from a unique and fantastic individual Ryan lawn. Good morning, Ryan.

Good morning. Good morning. Thank you. so fearful Thursday, you had a birthday earlier this week, right? Wow. Sure did. Turned.

What? 19

Yep. staying strong.

staying strong. Good for you. Well, you know, Ryan was this whole COVID thing I teen thing, whatever you want to call it. We've been had to Stop doing our employee appreciation breakfast is something that you thoroughly enjoyed and did and but the business has kept going and you know, we still have top performers and everything else so you're voted by your managers as the trim guy of the quarter or gal I guess I could say politically correct. But you know, also that is, you know that you got a pretty dynamic story you've been recording for quite a long time and seen a lot of different stuff so just thought it would be good for you to come on and do this. So you know, right. Tell me a little bit about yourself.

Good old country boy. Be here at Park for a long freakin time. Things have changed but for the better.

But you from Lincoln didn't right?

Yeah. from Lincoln born rice born rice in sticks and sticks. gotta tell by my accent. That's true. You're not.

I wouldn't I wouldn't say you're from you know Long Island or anything of their no Yankee here. That's true. But you got two kids wife, right?

Yep. And, and my kids will. What are these?

Okay, we'll get them some parks mass that's that's pretty simple I could get that done. Yeah Ryan So, you know, tell me was you growing up what would you want to be like when you're younger?

I don't know. I didn't know what I wanted to be I want to be a US Marshal one time but that didn't go good.

Really? Yeah. Why'd you watch you know, Walker Texas Ranger

growing up like how I get stuff hated farming but hell, that's my passion now

so your dad was a farmer?

Yeah berries basically olives was that was the way of survival as well I was raised and taught but you can get worse don't get now.

Really? Yeah. So growing up I mean whatever was on the farm that's what pretty much

wow pretty much That's pretty cool and I had to learn how to do plumbing and electrical hate narrow was the only thing I didn't know how to do grown up. Really? Yep. Hmm.

We did it all.

Yeah. So you know, we'll get into that in a minute about how you got an industry and and deal with all that but so you grew up wanting to be a US Marshal and at one point at one point that didn't work out and where's your high school?

Lincoln? High School, man was the war.

You play sports during high

school? I played all our sports

did a

high school come to you naturally was it like me where it was or was like a

school struggle with I dropped out of college?

I didn't even know you went to college. Oh,

yeah. Were with the gas in with the app. With that was really Yeah.

Why twice

I don't know Santa, you know go but you know at party school it is either, you know, bag a lot, a lot of Jamaican

popery up there too. Oh yeah. Oh yeah

it was good peppery back in the day yeah now

so what why did you want to go to college? What was the point just

I guess that's because that's what he was supposed to do. I mean, they want me to go to school get education they will move on his footsteps.

What we mean by that just

to follow his footsteps he didn't want to have to struggle. He wanted me to have an edge case and suddenly

fall back down again. And

kind of find out. Our work is our know that this so you know one thing happened to another grandparents got sick. Last farm? So as last time I went out, huh?

That was it pretty much.

So you mentioned your dad two three times there was Zika your role model growing up, somebody looked up

to a role model, okay, best friend. I mean, you know, we try to get foreign back up and going and having situations with him but you know he's back retire and go hand it out to me So, you know, this is one of the things

that's all that's a lot to deal with man. Oh yeah, that's good. We're gonna we're going to dig deep deeper into that as we get going and shaky so you see grandparents get sick Yo, you almost lost the farmer like why cuz I don't know much about farming I'm sorry.

Well, you know, it's like any other business you predict this. And at that time, the big farm pretty much got split up and we just try to hang on to What was what was ours? Okay? And

you know times got tough my dad lost his job

when was this but like what a years

probably ain't gonna hold you to it but probably 2000 okay is writing for I can hear Okay, cuz

you know

what your dad lost his place so he was not doing the farming full time just

no no the farm was kind of put on the bait farm was put on the back end and it kind of we didn't want to do it we didn't want to have that big ol headache we didn't want to take care of that thousand acres. Yeah that's a lot man. So you know I still have bad because of this stuff but we're just trying to focus on what we got. So trying to small farm small farming to you know, fresh produce stuff no kale, grass. So

you mentioned your cousins and so it was kind of just known that you know the Long's a they were farmers,

farmers and carpenters. Okay. So what your dad did not ask your dad is he's been in management most his whole life, really. And he's run some big companies and he got laid off and got another minute job, but he won't do it. No. stress and people. Yeah. And you understand is stressful. Hmm. You know people, people suck. And you know, you got to deal with it and you know, you can't hire fire people lucky enough to

know you can put that well, so that's cool. So you know, grandparents get sick your your dad gets laid off. You know, there's a lot of things going on at home. You're what? How old is this time? It says your mommy is

1920 years old. Are you still trying

to find your way? Oh, you kind of flunked out of college and I flunked quit. Yeah. You weren't like me. We had those points something GPAs man.

Yeah, well, I did good in school. I was pretty intelligent but I just I could see that

I'm a hands on person. Yeah, you know it's

it's hard to sit there and read and learn and not that type of person.

Yeah, I don't I don't I don't see is that easy? So you can't come because wherever you came back home and then what

I was framing houses real shit happen. Excuse me mind sucker and be in here

so how you know how'd you how'd you fall upon parks because I mean lincolnton were at that time were shot was over in the hood. No offense to the hood but it co Creek was rough man. We had to. We had a Doberman pinchers over there. Yeah, there's some crazy stories showing up in their vehicle. Yeah, laid out on the road at the table.

I remember that. Yeah, I did. run into us, but you know, let your mama It All

right, we'll talk about her here. Second, she always loved her son Ryan loan, but uh, you know, from lincolnton to parks and Charlotte, that's a good height

when I was building houses with this guy and

his brother worked down here, Timmy, and I'll come help him at summer. And I said, Hey, you can make some money though. They're like crap. When I asked him for a job, and he gave me a job, and

that's pretty much it. Now when

Sarah was like a coal trim guy. Right? What was he doing at that time?

He was basically the trim guy, okay. Although he had it. He had us guys doing it for right here. And I don't blame him. me. He had it. You know? He done it. Right. So he had his own business. Still got it up and running. And

good guy.

They only gave me more money. So come on. To company full time and you know went through every department in here yeah you have and he's good and

now here you are he won the quarter to trim guy the year of the quarter and sit on this thing with me man so that's blown jury so this is obviously pre recession right with Tammy and everything else and then what so you when you came off you know I don't think I was here full time yet when that

not Thank you until college

did new and whatever the hell I was doing pissed off my parents you know that goes

Oh yeah. So then uh

you know you are

you were your own server. Go ahead

now come to service.

So you were trimming yourself?

No, no, now I was dreaming and

my daughter was getting ready to be born.

Talking about that

I need a little more money because he was paying me 30 bucks. Seeing which one bad but, you know, I couldn't survive. Because I wouldn't live in at home mom and daddy and

go along the path for 14.

That's right. I forgot about that. And

I'll never forget your daddy. He was out in the field. And we came in late, it was dark and he was sitting at the big so when you ever when you go and work for me and I said, Tom, I'll work for you every day.

And then

one thing led to another I ended up in the service department

was this you know, was that based off because of the recession? Or was that just kind of Hey, you know, burn him Need help? You go over service or

no actually service I got mad. I was uh, I won't tell the whole story. Some people might hear but that's okay. I was mad at her house and I was punching for a supervisor. It is one o'clock in the afternoon and I couldn't get it. Around a dadgum 16, eight flitz by myself and akarma Hale, he's sitting at home. Welcome, help me out. I've quit. I won't work Parson for a day and heard you tell them to you Mama. Say you need help. Nice when I said I'm going service. Hmm. Interesting. And that was a crap show

that was a big change. Yeah, big change for you.

Oh yeah, it was a good learning experience. Because I know,

I know you can. I know you can so because I think Tim, you're the guy who went forward with the terms and all that he kind of, you know, had got laid off and did all that when we when they went parks went through that recession, I think. I think so here and all that. Yeah. And so you, you know, we're kind of moving through service. You move over to service and we're I think we're in a Harrisburg office by this time, right.

Yes. It was a crapshoot when you started. Oh yeah, it was a

fly by the seat of your pants. Hell, I still think some of that is now.

Some of the service new service guys, I probably wouldn't even understand the meetings that we used to have back in them days. Lesson in cursing No.

Yeah, you know, so just bring your speed Ryan came over to the service department and it was a unique dynamic that was pre nexstar pre anything and flying by the seat of our pants. And Ryan could run 14 to up to 14 or 15 calls on Saturday,

and maybe only one call back. That's pretty good for me.

Yeah, he called back. We'll talk about that too. Anyways. And you know, we were just blowing and going as fast as you could go not take not take care of the customer, anyone Ryan's fault. It was just we didn't have anybody to run the calls and don't know, you know, majority of I would say at that time or you warranty, writer comm or anything like that weren't really had our SBR service SPP you know, going on and doing that, and really, I think, you know, we burned you out, for sure Burn,

burn. But, you know,

we had to do we had to do you had to head. I mean, we had to make him calls. And yes, I do burn out, but we had children, you know, there comes a time that you got to make choices and I think I made the best choice for myself then, you know, maybe not for the company at the time, but I had taken the sale.

Well, I think I think you did right at the same time. I think you know, you're very loyal, right? Most most time when people either switched apartments or take another job within the organization in the past. Even could be now. It hadn't always into well. Oh you know, and so

Well, I didn't he didn't either. He was pretty ticked at me I was

but I was because I lost a good employee. I mean,

he was back to the dark side

true the dark side I hear you say that we'll talk about that here shortly about that. But you know, I mean, I agree the service techs today service techs now that we have if you know it's always ICU tired here my dad walking in the snow three miles to school kind of thing. You know, here I am doing the same thing talking to him like boys y'all have no idea you know, I never ran 11 or 14 calls on Saturday. A flying by see your pay is working 90 hundred hours. I'm even Jason Huggins turned in 111 hours one time, you know,

work to midnight one time, and you call me raising Cain. I'm like, well, would you expect me to do true? And he got mad cuz I was 30 minutes late the

next day. That's true, man. Yeah. Well, you know, hey, we have to change are, are amazement and you know, I've learned so much throughout that whole process, but that you know it. It's just funny here and talking about the old war stories with these new guys and I'm sitting thinking dang man, I'm a frickin hypocrite my dad. He's the same thing he you know, now I'm doing it. So I think these days well at that part they're interesting. So you know, Ryan, you you're working in service department. You had you think you married at this time?

Yeah. Probably towards the end. Yeah.

Yeah. And you had your son and your daughter?

Yeah, yeah. So yeah. So I was married. Yeah.

And, you know, you always had that special bond. My Mom, why do you think that was?

I don't know. I looked at her like a mother. Yeah, Amina. She did that she she was always there. Now. She did to my butt out many times. But she does that she you know At Lisa,

she take care of Oh, yeah, she she loves her son Ryan still does.

I mean, she's semi retired and I had she had come out of retirement to help me. Mm hmm. You know?

Well, you know, that speaks volume about you and about about this place and doing all that. So, you know, Ryan, man, pre pre recession. You see you got one of the longer tenure at parks. Right. We're trying to, you know, move that average up now and doing that. He we've seen a lot of changes. Oh, yeah. You've seen the company kind of change big time. You know, and you live in Lincoln. Right? And there's probably about 1000 companies between here and lincolnton cool. Yeah. What What do you think it was? What Why did you stick it out? Just Just curious. That kind of who you are. Are or

I guess pretty much I take pride in

working for parts who

feel like it's part of me and I'm partly, I mean, basically, yeah, that nutshell. I mean, heck, I got my kids were parsed material. I know. Yeah, they were more me. I like my white t shirt. He is hot out here. Yeah, it does Bart's good place. I mean, either go make it or you're not. I mean, if you do a right, you know, be screw up as long as you admit to it and fix it, you know? should be good to go. Yeah. But, you know, like politics. People don't like politics. So they jump around.

downtime, they tend to come back, right. I mean, you know,

yeah, we we have we have an x crew now that is blowing me up about that. But you know, Brian, talk talk a little bit, talk a little bit more about that meaning like You know, you can work anywhere, you know what I mean? And you know with with your right I think with construction is black or white? Or you know, you either get it done or you don't. Yep. Right and you know you've you've stuck wasted. You could have done farming if you want it, you're smart enough. Well, yeah, but I'm talking like full time, full time, I left a bit and

got like a live and I hear you there.

And you knew plumbing and electrical, right? And you knew service work. So you're kind of a jack of all trades, right? You could do it, you really much do it all. And that that's a sense of accomplishment. It should be, you know, a sense of confidence that you can do that. And, you know, for you to stay here as long as it has and you've seen, you know, we basically pick this place up and turn it upside down and shift the whole thing and build it back right a couple times, a couple times. You You know what? That says a lot about you and your character, man. I mean, it could have a lot of people have jumped ship or left your head. Some people can't go and come back.

Oh, yeah. But you know, it's like you say I'm loyal. Do you

think it's better today than it has been in past or no or you don't see it much or

I really don't know.

I'm not in politics anymore. You know, I dealt with it when I was in the service. Not as much as you did, but you know, I was still in it. Mm hmm. I choose and I don't want to do with politics. I don't mind it a little bit. But you know, not saying it's bad but it's gotta you know.

I just wanna

less as possible, not don't like being stressed.

I can see that. I'm as you know, I don't mind a little stress but watching my data being all stressed all yours, man. worth it? I mean, just, you know, which your hairs get more grayer than mine. So every day, you know, I look, I like people here, everybody's here burn my I'm a, you know, it's a good place to work. Yeah.

So you talk to your dad about the management piece and dealing with all that, you know, is that kind of a driver of why you I wouldn't say content because, you know, when we asked you to do something more or, you know, go above and beyond like our core values, say or whatever, you always sign up to do it. Well, is that kind of, Oh, you know, you forethought in the back of your head that you know, man I saw, you know, my dad was he come home stressed out all the time and, you know, he's working for the man as you'd say it and then he did put in all my work and he is laid off and you know, yeah, there has been somewhat of a culture of that of, you know, you move up and get a major job here. And then

Here's a more true truth this matter the time my life right now. Management wise, I'm just I'm not cut out for right now. I mean, I could do it.

Yeah, you're smart enough. I just I don't

want to take it home with me, right? He knows well my children came to me and back when I was in service and you know, they were little it told me harder, you know, because I was never home. I mean, you know, and I was working 72 hours a week non stop, you know, and it's I have seen my son's 11 so to say anyway, eight years left.

He's 11

my daughter just turned 14 oh my god Time flies

man. I remember when you last you had to turn the locks on the doors from inside to outside the evil locked up and then she go through the window. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. Who yeah Yeah, you back. You know,

I was just 14 I mean you're up there Yeah.

14

flies.

Oh yeah. And girls are different than boys.

Yes. They are very different. Yes they are. You told me that early early on. Yep. So you so you value that time with your kids. I think that's where you're going to say you got about eight more years with him. Yeah, he still thinks you're cool now he won't when he's 18. And my daughter

No, I'm the worst person or is what

it is. Yeah.

Well that you know, I think again that that kind of mirrors the other things going on. He stuck it out here. You know, you had that close balm a mom and still do and everybody likes you around here. Most though, and you do a good you do a really good job. Vernon's hard to win over. No. And but he loves him sobriety and he talks with you. So, you know what, what do you what do you think you can tribute that to? Is it something growing up or something like what your dad or or you know what we don't like? Like why? loyalty? Yeah like you like you know or and you can use any value. You know I think every parent boy values the time with their kids I do think that but you've made a point that that is that the utmost importance yes versus is you know getting a promotion or getting a career, you know, doing something different. But what do you what do you attribute that to?

I guess my upbringing. I mean, you notice I was taught to work our now stuff the Sharla beloved man, you know, his family comes first. You know this. Yes, I had to have a job to support my family. But you know, Want to be able to spend time with them? To Sure, you know, is? Yes, some days I get off a real early time but some days I get off, you know, late, which was out, you know

about midnight? No, not only

two hours a week. Yeah, no, no. And, you know, in back in them days when we didn't have a choice, right, we didn't have the manpower. Right, like the head now. Right. You know, it's

so let me ask you this question not to hit to pursue when you you know, switch that. Did does your home life get better?

Yes, it did. And I was able to

so you made the right decision in your in your domain? Yes.

Good to me. Yes. And I was able to start focusing back on the phone. And that man, that means a lot to me, whether I'm the father makes it or not, you know, playing in the dirt means a lot to me, and it means a lot to my family. Especially my kids. Love it most the time,

I guess, in this day in time, that's that's huge. I can't stand going to a restaurant or even my kids sitting around a freaking iPad and everything else, you know, if we didn't i didn't have that growing up I was outside till 910 o'clock at night playing doing something not sitting behind a computer screen. Anyways, that's a whole nother story getting input, you know, get part a podcast later. So, you know, I respect the fact you made that that decision and I think it sometimes you can get it muddy down or water down are looking like, you know, paint man was Ryan, I want to step up, you know what I mean? Why do you not want to help out and contribute and well, you know, but But hold on, hold on, but right. It, it makes sense. You know that this is the choice that that you made, and that's good. I don't I don't take that away from you at all. We can't sit here and talk about family owned and we want you homie and we should be parents and then we don't we don't do that. And so, you know, man that that that's very powerful that's helped me out this morning and understand a little bit more because I knew it but I hadn't heard it from you. Yeah, clearly.

Well, you know

I got a real burnout the I mean, you know, and, and you know, I'll be Thank God you know,

within reason

yes I'm climbing on 40 foot ladder. That's another story.

Oh, I don't know how to do that man on their pitches on livers

no a I'll pay outsider.

ISIS out that's how I feel about it.

That's smart I yeah, yeah

family you know it's also you

got hurt on a ladder today Yeah,

yeah so you know, I do have a little fear but you know, there's some things that I will do something that won't.

Yeah. And that's clear and I think the management I think they are Even though they were slicked back, they do comply. But

now I've told him you know, if it's, you know, off go pay money. You know, I'll give money to give the past guys to do it and he's gonna be, you know,

perky two weeks towncars for one week.

That's that's a different story.

Third quarter of this third quarter performance not second quarter, so you get But no, I'm just joking. We're

just trying to keep my vacation. Here. You

so you know, if we could go there for a minute that this was what 17 when you got hurt? I got that phone call was September

18. It was in the 17th of December. So what what what happened there

is that that was a big loss for us with you. I mean, you know, that we were we were blowing gold. I think we've taken a Rails Yeah, full time about that third quarter and they push they pushed hard and they had some neighborhoods kind of your area. And I remember some of the management after you got hurt They all were concerned. Like Dang, man, this is gonna hurt us and I could see that I did a little bit but so what happened when

I was in a rush is started snowing in a deer season and I was we built this trip to Dollar Tree House stealing freakin finish scared death opener and

story treehouse. Yeah,

the bad bomb is probably 20 feet on soflo Wow, yeah, this 2020 perfect. Anyway as you can put plastic around. And

so what are some?

Oh, well, I was going to the next morning I was gonna go

to the hearing. So maybe I want to go with

I'll go out there and sip a little bit.

I don't like cold I can sweat all day. Nicole and I was just rushing and I really don't know. I just know malaria fail.

I can freakin wall jumped in my truck drove back to the house

to walk time into the hospital now that's pretty much nurse. Yeah.

Because you're the type that loves going to hospitals. Oh yeah. You get checked out once a month and

he gave me no pain medicine. Mm hmm.

But you broke what your femur?

Yeah, hurt

so thing by listener, make sure you get disability because it helps to

know as well. Mom helped you as right.

Yeah, well, that was the holy crap show to me. You got to deal with our crap. But yeah, it all turned out me.

So you're out five months, man. Yeah, fight out and you ain't good. Time to sit around and lay out and do all that up. I could see you probably you always doing something

I watch everything on Netflix every night to watch I watch.

And so you're like you see, you go from doing service work and never home to five months you're home every day. Yeah. How's that?

It's a

Ha. As you can dinner lighter or hobble outside and maybe smoke cigarettes. It was it

was it? Well, you know, when people go through something traumatic like sometimes people don't get back. Well about dammit, how did you battle that? dealing with that? Because from what I remember, your mom died? Well, right. I mean, it was not like it was Oh, he just broke your bone. really well. It was pretty severe about what happened right?

I was I was down and out in the press want to come back to work? It was your mom, your mom called me into my tail and for no reason. I mean, she had a legitimate reason but it was from hearsay. And which, that got me out of my my hole. I was in a hole. Oh, really? Oh yeah. I've never been depressed like it. I didn't want to work. I mean, you sit at home for a month, and then all sudden you back at work, you know?

And I was aside, why do you think you got an at home feel mommy asked you what was it just I don't

I really don't know. I guess I felt useless, helpless. You know, I mean, I'm a provider, you know, and I couldn't do that. And then when I go back to work, I just didn't want to, you know, and then that gooby want me to climb a 40 foot ladder? No, and I said nine Uh, so he threw me under the bus. I'm the you know, laziest person world, you know

what you're not.

And you know, I had a cup of cup of bears and hair color hair tones you mama call me to my butt out? Didn't even let me say no,

no, she don't. And she hung up the phone

you know, and that that that got me out, you know? And Wow, thank you for sharing that never knew that.

I bet she doesn't know that now

called in. Thanks after a while after that. That was me and a lot I needed that. I mean, you notice we when you down and out, you need something you do. And it helped. Wow. And I've never dealt with depression. I always thought it you know, I've been around it, but I never experienced it.

It's a real thing. It's tough. It's real tough. So you you you have a tough conversation. You Get out of it. You know you coming back to work which you're not sitting behind a desk, right? Do you still have fear of getting hurt? Do you still wonder about it? It means it still bothering you today.

I have a small fear of a ladder, extended ladder

you know anything more than 10 foot? Yeah. It's sometimes I had to talk myself, you know, but like I said

more than 2425 foot

No, sir. I'm sorry. I don't do it either. I hate heights. Stan, how

they get Oh man. I might look I will give you money. I don't care. I just you know, I can just No, sir. I mean, you can get hurt. Falling a foot. Mm hmm. You know, narrow thought I'd be scared of heights but yeah. Even we before I come back to work on a broken leg woman with fluid feeling see my brother Yeah, that was that wasn't easy.

Butterfly. Yeah. Did you ever have that fear before?

No, never. And then on the way back, we hopped, like, we changed when three or four different places and change planes every time and on the way back, we got on a plane that only healed like 20 some people. And I've been on private jets before. But dang this, I was like, Oh my god, Canada is about freaked out. So yes, I might have a little fear of heights. Yeah, now, and that's

it. That's okay. Yes, warrior. I don't have them do it, man. He's like a frickin spider. You know, he's a spider man. Well, no, sir. I

gotta do it. I got to worry about a fan first.

I understand. Well, you don't want to go back to that place that you were either. Yeah, and that's good. Well, hey, you know what, I appreciate you sharing that that. I'd heard a little bit about it kind of stay out of that a little bit. Wanted to I just heard through the grapevine stories about you and dealing with dealing with that and you know that's accomplishment and stuff to come back from that some people don't I wanna I know some people that have gotten hurt here and you know either got hurt at work or got hurt at home and we never see smell fear never see him again they have like a completely out of it and do it they get the hook the hook don't stop then or

Oh yeah. Oh, they gave me some

synthetic heroin crap whatever it's called Dora said or the Lada. Oh, God. I see how people get addicted it so hard core growth factor. Really? Yes. I can't stand I don't need I don't like I don't like taking Tylenol.

Yeah, I don't need it.

I just Yeah, but that stuff is Mm hmm. I had to get won't wind up it.

Well, good man. I think You know, we've Dismore we've been able to uncover a lot of different things and and you have you've always been honest and you've always been what she sees what you get, and I love it. I love that about that. That's that's a hoot. You know, and you you share a little bit about your journey and and you know how you grew up and what what your father means to you. And it worked about how your family's most important which it is and that's a that's a that's a good thing, man. I think that that's that's a sense of accomplishment there and we talked about your battle after you got hurt and how you had to overcome that and deal with that. I mean, see, you give me a final fall or final takeaway, Ryan if if anybody is listening about like a cert disability, but on a more you know, serious, deeper note. I mean, what so much they were getting in this in History or somebody trying to, you know, either move up or be able to be to your status of where you've gotten in your life with this with your job i think you know, you're kind of well respected around here a lot of people look up to you just because you've been here so long and they know you do a damn good job and everything else would in any anything come to mind that you would, you know, maybe give them advice about or a young person maybe in trade school could be listening to this or

keep at it. Don't get discouraged. Keep working hard.

If you screw up, it's okay. You learn from your mistakes. I still make mistakes. Yeah, just work hard. If you want to do it, you can do and you're not gonna win every time. I mean, you know, maybe parts ain't right for them, maybe another company right for you. But if they want to do heating and air, just keep at it is hard work is very hard work. But it's very rewarding. It is. So let me No, just keep at it.

Yeah, we I was talking with somebody else on this and they're in a, I think that that's a lost art of people understanding when you're doing like production work or doing a sense of or even service you know this when you fix something, right. Oh yeah. And you can see a completed procedure or some work at the end and that's pretty gratifying to go home to.

Oh, yeah. I always like fixing it. Yeah. Yeah, that was a you know, they had spent thousands of dollars a couple hundred and they're good to go. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, somebody out there and woman do this. go at it.

Good. Good. Well, thank you. Thank you, Ryan. I appreciate this more. I've enjoyed this. I learned a lot about you hell of a job this past quarter doing it. You know, let's let's finish the year off with a bang. Happy belated birthday party by the way. Appreciate it. And you know, again, this is why tell your host of that's the parkway podcast signing out with the man in the middle. The legend Ryan lowing see

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