The Couple's Table
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How transformative can a workspace overhaul be? On this episode, we share the incredible journey of revamping our content creation studio, from grappling with audio issues to achieving perfect camera alignment. Hear about our game-changing fiber internet upgrade and the dramatic shift it brought to our streaming capabilities. We also engage with our audience, celebrating their own stories of building and optimizing creative spaces.
Ever wondered how your workspace affects your creativity and productivity? We shine a light on the often-overlooked importance of designing a workspace that’s not just camera-ready but also inspires you behind the scenes. Personal anecdotes reveal how clutter can stifle creativity, and we provide practical tips for balancing aesthetics with functionality. Discover the psychological benefits of a well-organized environment and its impact on your workflow.
Join us as we turn a chaotic setup into an organized, aesthetically pleasing haven. From mounting lights to streamlining cables, every step of our transformation is detailed to inspire your own workspace improvements. Learn about the benefits of remote-controlled lights, modern home lighting solutions, and creating a co-working atmosphere at home. We also share insights on upgrading audio interfaces and managing background noise, ensuring that your workspace is optimized for both creativity and comfort.
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Evolving Content Creation Spaces
Speaker 1hello and welcome. My name is tom and I'm heather.
Speaker 2You're sitting at the couple's table the couple's table is a live stream podcast here on this channel. It was. The audio was like red was, it was where right here. I think we're like clipping. Oh, I don't know. Uh, the couple's table is a live stream podcast here on this channel. Join us for better or worse for richer or poorer in sickness and in hell even at earlier times.
Speaker 2Yay, so we're dialing it in, because I completely we redid my entire studio, basically, and this is the first stream that we are doing with two people, because I did the YouTube huddle up. Oh, the table is crooked. This needs to get pushed up.
Speaker 1We can do that right now that sounds fine.
Speaker 2I'm a little high, I'm a little hot in there you're always a little hot how's it look?
Speaker 1well, now we're just talking there. There we go that's great.
Speaker 2Oh good, you can't really tell, right tell what that?
Speaker 1we changed everything no, I mean that's kind of the goal right. It's for the most part. If you're watching this, you don't get to see, you shouldn't notice at all. Yeah, unless there's like little improvements, maybe, maybe, yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, I definitely got to push the table.
Speaker 1Did you want me to move the table here? No, let me move it. Let's do it right now. I'll do.
Speaker 2This is a little bit higher. It looks like it's like the horizons, okay.
Speaker 1Do you see what I'm talking about? So you need to pull that back, I guess.
Speaker 2No, I've got to pull it forward. I thought I don't know. I think I have to go forward.
Speaker 1You, do you. Watch out Ben. Well, while you're doing that, yb Negative is here. Exactly, there's no need to be negative. We got Mac, got spiral lab. Oh, I put uh, I put uh, marta's comment right over it. Uh, I, what do you think?
Speaker 2I think that's better, I think that's better, there we go.
Speaker 1Uh, we got gill. What's up, gill? We got oh no, it's oh no oh, no, oh no oh no, coffee. Call me cubby and spiral lab happy about the earlier time. Later is basically at the end of my work week on the East Coast and I just haven't had the bandwidth lately. Well, it's good to see you yeah and speaking of bandwidth, we finished our first week of full fiber internet, which has been amazing.
Speaker 2Oh yes, yeah, did we mention that on the couple days?
Speaker 1We did because we got it the day before.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, so life changer.
Speaker 1Yeah, I was able to do a live stream this week. That was 4K.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1That was nuts.
Speaker 2And I was watching. Usually if one of us is streaming, I don't know. I try not to do anything because I don't want to.
Speaker 1Oh, I haven't been doing anything.
Speaker 2I don't want to like use the power.
Speaker 1Well, use the power, but well, now it's not a problem. Yeah, now there's plenty of fiber to go around and ben is in the back there hi, ben hi, he's crashed out on the couch.
Speaker 2Well, so this week, talking about youtube spaces, youtube studios, yes, changing everything up. Well, not changing everything up.
Speaker 1But I thought it would be fun to talk about things that maybe we've learned, maybe you guys have learned, in creating the space that works for you.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1Because I think all of us are like constantly evolving the spaces that we make stuff in, and it's always a thing like every time you lock it down you're like this is perfect and then immediately it changes a lot of times.
Speaker 2I know because I remember I don't know, last time we did my office I was like, oh my God, it's perfect. And then it got to a point where I did not come into my office unless I had to stream and then, as soon as the stream was over, shut everything down out the door.
Speaker 1I was the same way and that was weird.
Speaker 2When you realize, like it's not a space I want to be in. Yeah, that's what.
Speaker 1I was doing before. It was like if I'm making a video, I'm in here, If I'm streaming, I'm in here, Otherwise I'm not in here. And I was like that sucks, because it had been a place.
Speaker 2I wanted to be, and it's not like a conscious decision.
Speaker 1I just realized, yeah, you just realized like why am I not in here, why am?
Speaker 2I working on the couch instead of in here.
Speaker 1And it's cool. You had some really cool specific needs to adjust, as did I, which I know we've talked about before so we can focus more on yours, but I thought it's cool to talk about everyone here, Like maybe not necessarily everyone, but I feel like the vast majority of people that I'm seeing in the comments I know have built one, if not multiple, content creation spaces, studio spaces yeah, james Hicks in the house, what up?
Speaker 2Congrats on the fiber couple.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, it's awesome you had a phone call over there I got a phone call.
Speaker 2How fast is the fiber and how much are they charging? Okay, are you guys ready for this, because I have a before and after?
Speaker 1well, is this wi-fi before and after? Yeah yeah, okay there so the plan that we got is the two gigabyte plan, but you don't get two gigabytes over.
Speaker 2Wi-Fi. So here's what it was before.
Speaker 1This was the fastest it could possibly be 73 up In Heather's office. Heather's office always has the lowest speed 73 down, 21 up. For some reason, and 21 up was rare. Usually it was like 10.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1And so two gigabytes means it should be 2 000 down, 2 000 up, which if we are plugged in via ethernet it is it's even over 2 000. Sometimes it's like 2036 or something uh, but over wi-fi, over wi-fi or 184 or 148 yeah 184 up, which is so when I was doing when I was doing my 4K stream the other day through Ecamm, when you set your stream settings, Ecamm does a speed test and tells you if your bandwidth is good enough and how much you need.
Speaker 2Or whatever, oh to do the stream.
Speaker 1Yeah, and it said for the 4K stream it needed like 16 megabytes or whatever megabits. I don't remember which one it ever is, I never remember which one it is, it's bits. Is it bits when?
Speaker 2you're talking about this. It's bits.
Speaker 1What's a megabyte then? It's like when Ben chews a treat too much and lights her hand. It's a megabyte, I think it's bits. Oh, I think it is megabit, but then there's gigabit Ethernet, which is a gigabyte.
Speaker 2Megabits.
Speaker 1Oh, megabits, oh yeah, so it's not. It's not the same megabytes, yes a bit is one-eighth of a megabyte and okay, cool. So bits it's bits, yeah. So okay it's bits, because megabits has a little b megabytes has a big b, m, big b. Okay, there we go. We have solved this problem. Now I will actually probably remember it.
Speaker 2You got to say bits.
Speaker 1So Ecamm said we needed 16 megabits per second and my office was like 250.
Speaker 2It was so good Plenty good On Wi-Fi 250.
Speaker 1So there's no need honestly to even plug in. I uploaded a YouTube video over Wi-Fi. It's $250. So there's no need honestly to even plug in. I uploaded a YouTube video over Wi-Fi the other day. It's like a 20-minute video.
Speaker 2It would have taken hours, it would have taken hours.
Speaker 1It took five minutes. Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 2How fast is the Fiverr and how much are they charging? And they're charging us $100 a month which is not bad, like why weren't we just paid? Yeah, I, I thought upgrading the fiber was gonna be more expensive and a pain.
Speaker 1I thought the process to install was gonna be a huge thing and it literally the day before like a worker came to the door and was like hey, I'm moving like wires from this box to your yard for the house for install tomorrow. He didn't even need it. He was like I'm just telling you that I'm here, so if you see me out here, that's what I'm doing, but like we didn't even need to do anything for that.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1They just did like work on the street boxes and then the next day the installer came. He was here for like less than an hour.
Speaker 2Yeah, and it was you know, a lot of what he did was like okay, you have to install this app on your phone, and he was just watching me do it like this was waiting for app installs. Yeah, yeah like, okay, I'm gonna plug in the router now. Do you see it on the app? So?
Speaker 1uh, pretty smooth yeah cat in the house.
Speaker 2What's up? Homesick mac? Great subject. I guess everyone is tired of mentioning moving to a new flat, but I'm building from scratch oh, we are not tired of that at all. Yeah, I kind of like took the approach when we were building, like what if we were starting from scratch?
Speaker 1Yes, and that's what I did too, because sometimes you can get stuck into like this is how it has to be, because it's how it's been, this is how it's been.
Speaker 2Yeah, this is how it's been done and I was like, no, what if this were a blank box and we're starting from scratch? I want a coffee 73 down, 21 up. Not bad, I get less for $150 a month. But you're in.
Speaker 1Are you in Hawaii? Oh yeah, I know Doc's also in Hawaii and he is, you know, let's say, a speed queen, but that's not the right term, but he's, you know. He has whatever high speed you can get, but it depends on your location. We couldn't get fiber until like less than a year ago, and the thing we were paying for was supposed to be 500 up, 500 down, which, even plugged in, never came close?
Speaker 2Yeah, not that.
Speaker 1Never, ever close.
Speaker 2In the pews. It's back to school for teachers.
Speaker 1Hopefully I can squeeze into your live streams and huddle up says Rudy Well, hopefully your back to school time is fun time.
Speaker 2Yeah Gil, whoever named the byte and bits, definitely works for Sony cameras.
Speaker 1Or Rode with the Procaster, rodecaster, rodecaster Pro all different products.
Speaker 2Kat says my upload is only 30 bits, which is a big step up from a couple years ago. See how we weren't even getting.
Speaker 1I was getting the 20 that you got. The screenshot you showed was the day of the install yeah, it was right before the guy came and most of the time it was. I would say 12 was probably the average, yeah, which is rough that's a great deal abla.
Speaker 2I saw a73 like 1300 on bnh last week. What was that? How often did that happen?
Speaker 1was it brand new? Um, I mean, that's the camera's what like six years old now, so it could just be. They're just like getting rid of inventory. Um, still a great camera. I mean it's still a great camera, but I do think it's showing its age more and more with every new release that comes out, especially with things like the ZV-E10 Mark II or the. Was it the ZV-E1? Is that the one I'm thinking of? No, I'm thinking of the A6700. See Sony numbers. It's hard.
Speaker 2I want a coffee. I had a studio space, Lost it in Jan and I'm building out a new spot, now Baltimore. I was way off Other side.
Speaker 1I think it's just because the oh no coffee thing I always think of Hawaii. Yeah, it is what it is why be negative?
Speaker 2Every time I get mine closed to perfect, I it down start over now I've got enough junk for three workstations. I've never. I don't have a company, so why not, exactly, why not? Uh, I'm lucky to get stable. Five up, 30 down. Oof, oof, yeah, that's rough. That is rough. Uh, level up mike. Hey, everybody watch for the beach in rehoboth rehoboth de la. Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Today my speeds are one gig up 40.
Speaker 1One gig down, 40 up. That's pretty freaking good at the beach.
Speaker 2I know that's crazy.
Speaker 1My iPhone can hit 15 up, I know there were definitely times where like should we just hotspot, but we also live in a complete dead zone where there's no cell service either.
Speaker 2Yeah nothing. Of course, audio hotline in the house. Hey, what up? Business growth ready? Just tweaking lights. Nothing changed over the years, however, notice a shine above forehead Hair loss, the missing black hair absorbed the light before.
Speaker 1That's rough.
Speaker 2One gank down. Elle is here, hey everyone.
Speaker 1What up what?
Speaker 2up. What's up?
Speaker 1All right, all right. So do you want to share what you've done and what we've done in your studio?
Speaker 2And then we can talk about lessons learned. Yeah, we're not done.
Speaker 1No, no, no. Just what we've done? Yes, but we are not done.
Speaker 2I'd say like phase one is done.
Speaker 1It'll never be finished. I don't think I have a phase two vision. Yeah, like the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
Speaker 2I have a phase two vision. I say it'd be like another. Well, we have texture trials coming today.
Speaker 1I say another like 200 in a day. That's not. That's not bad, yeah.
Designing Productive and Creative Workspaces
Speaker 2So my next couple's table well, no, because I got the rope. Light is one of them oh okay, yeah well, and then there's like stuff here, so maybe yeah, that's what I mean it's then there's like stuff here, so maybe yeah, that's what I mean.
Speaker 1It's always. Don't try to say it's finished, it will never be finished.
Speaker 2No, because I want I want it to be. I want to get to a point where I'm like otherwise. I'm going to be like but there's a change, but there's always like hey look, here's a piece of artwork I want to do.
Speaker 2Here's a. You know, you never know what. If you know, I want, like, give me the keys to the move in. Good, we're done so. Uh, here's the approach. Here, here is the uh, the philosophy behind why we did this, which, again, you shouldn't be able to notice because we changed nothing behind us. But uh, also, if you've been watching the couple's table a while, I know I have said this many times my camera has been covered in dust because I never move anything I finally got to wipe that I have not moved anything in terms of what is behind the camera, because I've dialed it in and I loved it and I didn't want to move it, so like literally haven't, had not vacuumed back there.
Speaker 2It was yeah, it was time it was definitely uh, but when I noticed, like you know what, I haven't been coming into this space. Um, actually kat talked about like a co-working space. I used to work out of a co-working space before I moved in here and I really liked there is there's like a psychology. I mean this is why interior design is a thing. There is a way to design spaces to make them be more product, like where you feel more productive and creative and stuff like that.
Speaker 2And I feel like I put in a lot of thought and intention and creativity into what you guys see behind me, but not any thought into what I see, which is in front, which you know is not on the camera, which is supposed to be, uh, what I, you know, like that's supposed to be. That's more time than you seeing this. Does that make sense? Like, obviously I should be spending more time facing this way, even with the camera off and everything, because this is where I get work done. Um, then the camera being on. So I was like what, how can we design a space that keeps the background but all, but just creates a productive like creative vibe in here where I want to hang out? I want to, I like come up with ideas. Sorry, I keep going. You keep opening your mouth and I'm like, sorry, go.
Speaker 1No, no, you finish. That's it, okay. What I was saying is, I think that this I think you're highlighting something that's really cool that a lot of people do when they make their spaces, and a lot of content creators because even my own space, like the the blue wall that's usually in the background of videos prior to that being a youtube studio, that was where my desk was facing right I built this. I painted this wall this color I loved. I put this artwork that I loved on it and then I faced it when I was working. But when you're filming it's sort of different see.
Speaker 2That's the difference is because I was looking I I was on Instagram. I saw all these desk setups which look awesome but like these, people aren't recording right.
Speaker 1It's their workspace.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's their desk, it's where they get homework done and work from home and stuff like that. The background is probably just a white wall. You know they never show it, but what?
Speaker 1but their station, their workstation is station is like oh, I could spend hours there, you know, and that I think that's the thing that happens, because you it's not like survival mode, but you focus on what the camera is seeing what the viewer is seeing exactly and everything else.
Speaker 1I think there are so many people I mean, I, I've seen it where people do studio tours and it's like here's what you see, here's what I see, and it's it's very, very different. And that was, I think, the thing you hit on was when you come in here to sit down and do work, the thing you're looking at was like not pleasing, not conducive to creativity, or productivity, it's not fun. Not fun, not enjoyable. If anything, it was stressful because it was cluttered, messy.
Speaker 1It was like a reminder of you know, oh my God, I got to fix this and this is like it was just like stress inducing.
Speaker 2Yeah, god, I gotta fix this. And this is like it was just like stress inducing. Yeah, like when I street, like when we do the couples table, it's fun because I'm looking at this, you know, I see what you see, but I was gonna go work in the living room. You know.
Speaker 1There's no way I was ever gonna so I think I think the lesson learned there is that it is important to sometimes I've heard the expression like polishing the underside of a banister. Like sometimes people say, don't spend too much time polishing the underside, no one's going to see it. But I think in these cases it is really important to spend time on the stuff that even the viewer doesn't see.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's not in the frame.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's still valuable, it's still important. There was a time, believe it or not, when people used to design homes and spaces without like cameras and backdrops in mind, and it was just like let's design a beautiful space, I kind of got sad because I was like wow, I, I, I feel like I, uh like deprioritized myself.
Speaker 2You know that's a normal thing, yeah I was like, oh yeah, we gotta make it, we gotta make the shot look good, with no consideration to like. What about when I have to get work done, though?
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Which is like first of all, I realize this is a first world problem. I am not complaining, but you know, I just want to be intentional, if we can be.
Speaker 1It's no different than like okay, you go to your job at an office and, for some reason, instead of like a nice chair to sit in, you're sitting on, you know a cinder block or a rough stool Like okay, you can still sit on the stool and do your job, but it's way nicer if you're in a comfy chair.
Speaker 2Kat got new desk and is so happy with it. Oh thanks, I've been watching. She says 2020. Your setup is crazy. I'm from.
Speaker 1Ethiopia. That's awesome.
Speaker 2That's so cool. I don't think we've ever had anyone from Ethiopia.
Speaker 1That's a long time.
Speaker 2Gil, my studio has no final form. It's forever evolving.
Speaker 1Me too.
Speaker 2I think that's everybody. Audio hotline I'm working on that too. Where I face in my videos is kind of a mess.
Speaker 1But your setup in your videos always looks amazing and yeah.
Speaker 2Sp. And yeah, uh, spiral lab looks into a closet with my washing machine and a pile of laundry yeah, yeah, so I I think there are. Well, I don't know. I don't know how everyone else's setup is, but for me, like this desk is, it's what people see on camera. This is the only angle I have. You know, I don't have like Tom.
Speaker 1This is not how a room would be set up if it weren't, if it were an office that didn't involve cameras.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, it doesn't make sense. But, like my point is that I also work here, I don't know if people have separate setups Like you know. I don't know they have a separate office space where they have their laptop and computer and stuff like that, and then there's like the recording space. I don't know, I feel like you know just from the people here who use Ecamm especially, I feel like the workspace is the recording space and it's like one in the same.
Speaker 1I think it depends. I think it varies For a lot of people. I think they become one in the same out of necessity. Like you have your computer, you have your like it all it all overlaps.
Speaker 1But then some people like YB negative was mentioning it over time Maybe you end up with the point where you can have multiple things, and that was that was the thing I did when I redid my studio, which I know I've talked about was I had the one setup. This is where I work, this is where I film videos, and I realized that was the problem for me, so I had to break it apart and like, even though it's the same physical room, there's this stuff over here which is prioritized filming videos, and then there's a desk over here that has like the computer and work stuff and even though there is a camera and I can like record there or stream from there, do video calls from from there.
Speaker 2That's the lower priority. That's not what that space is for.
Transforming Workspace Aesthetics
Speaker 1Yeah, and same with the other one. Like I could sit at my like filming table and edit or whatever, but that's not what it's for and that made such a huge, huge difference.
Speaker 2And I've seen, I think like also big, you know, inspiration for me, wanting to change stuff up, is seeing how excited you are since you've changed your space which has been a while.
Speaker 1It's been, yeah, six months at least, yeah, and like to this day.
Speaker 2You're like I'm gonna get in here, I'm gonna. You know, you have it so dialed into your preferences now and you're excited to go in there. You get work done in there. You know you, you're not just in there to record videos, you're also in there like we just hang out in there yeah, that is not how it is in here it is now.
Speaker 2It is now I, I wake up and I'm just, I come in here and I just say it, it's so pretty, I love it anyway you want to show some before and afters.
Speaker 1Okay, yeah, we did uh, let's show.
Speaker 2Here's the before situation that we were working with.
Speaker 1So this is up until what. Like a week ago, this was pretty much how it was yeah is this the before?
Speaker 2this is not even the full before oh yeah, you're right, yeah, okay, this is the like this was number two. This is number two. Yeah, so that's not even. This is uh. Here's a video. I showed this on the youtube. Huddle up.
Speaker 1Yeah, this is how it's been this is under the desk. That is crazy that we just kind of mentally blocked it out.
Speaker 2There's two desks under here, like a pink one on the left and this black one on the right that's holding the lightbox power thing. Just a jungle of cables, just a mess, you know, and like I know, nobody sees it, but I know it's there and it's cluttering I've heard that hoarders can like block out their horde like they don't see it anymore.
Speaker 1Yeah and it's crazy because looking at that I'm like that is a cable mess, but I feel like I don't remember like noticing it I can't switch the thing, my scene is locked. Here we go, boom bam there we go yeah, so that's how it's been most of the time here, and and there was also, if you kind of go back there- this way.
Speaker 2Nope, I think it oh shoot well, let's resume last video this one.
Speaker 1There we go. If you pause it right here Because you have the silver thing, is your camera tripod you have the cubbies, there's three tripods, three tripods. Two light stands as well, and that power cord thing that looks like it has growths on it because there's so much coming out of it.
Speaker 2I mean, look at this, it's a mess. I mean it's not bad. I don't want to hate on it, it worked it. Look at this, it's a mess. I mean it's not, it's not bad.
Speaker 1I don't want to like hate, it worked, like you got the job done, but it would when, when you're coming in and like that's what you're dealing with here, because that also carries over to anytime you wanted to move anything, like if you not that you ever really need to plug stuff in, but you're, anytime you need to do anything back here, even turn off the computer or whatever, it's like what a mess.
Speaker 2And then yeah, and then so, and then here's like what I was looking at. This is after we cleaned the cables and installed uh caddies under the desk to hold all the wires. So, uh, I don't know if I can zoom in on this, maybe I can't, okay I think shift scroll shift scroll. Nope, that's opacity, opacity. Uh. So we mounted the lights like one of the light, the ring light, onto the desk.
Speaker 2So we got rid of a tripod yeah, we got rid of a tripod and the wires are not on the floor anymore, but still like the wall is just white. Yes, I have my book, nook.
Speaker 1But the cool thing, though, that we were able to do with your desk is there's. There's like one cable that comes out of the desk and plugs into the wall because the power. We've got a bigger, more equipped power strip, got the caddies for the cables, so everything's there. There's one cable that plugs into the wall and then you have your like umbilical cord for your camera. That has the camera power, the prompter power and the um, the camera hdmi, and we wrapped them in like a tubey tube a cable tube thing.
Speaker 1So that way it's. It looks like one thick cable that has three cables in it yeah that's it. So it's very, very clean and there's nothing on the floor over there.
Speaker 2Everything has been like managed and organized, so that was a huge improvement yes, okay, so let I'm going to show you the after as of yesterday.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2Yeah, so it's this. Here's what I'm looking at now. Wow, and it's just like cozy, it's clean, there's no wires back there. I don't have a before of the wire situation, do I? Oh, here, I don't have a before of the wire situation.
Speaker 1Do I, oh here, oh, this is a cool photo. Yeah, you can tell here.
Speaker 2Let me show this photo Boom.
Speaker 1There it is Sort of oh, okay, bam.
Speaker 2No wires down there.
Speaker 1What we're also able to do, though, is eliminate the other light stand, so the light is on the ceiling, which you can't really see in this photo it's, which is great. It's like out of the ceiling. So there's only one tripod on the ground, which is the camera, oops, and that is our internet speeds I don't know how to get this out, boom there we go.
Speaker 2So huge upgrade but not done. We still have not a lot to do. We did most of it, but it was like we painted a whole wall. We had to go to Home Depot and like it was fun because we designed a thing like the shelves on the wall.
Speaker 1Yeah, Because Heather wanted. I don't know if you have the photo or whatever, but Heather had a vision of like two shelves that popped out and could have colored lights behind them, and then the shelves themselves could have like artwork and things on it. Yeah, those oh, that's not in the stream.
Speaker 2I think I have it in here, but I can't oh here this one.
Speaker 1Yeah, there we go, those shelves there. So we had to go to Home Depot and sort of figure out what materials to use to pop them out of the wall.
Speaker 2Like I didn't want them to be bookshelves. They're not meant to like put like carry stuff because I didn't want it to come out from the wall that far. Put like like carry stuff because I didn't want it to come out from the wall that far. But I wanted it to come out of the wall enough where, if you put a light strip, an rgb light strip, behind it, it would like cast a shadow upwards and downwards, right, and so I had to come out enough where there's a glow. But we didn't want I don't want full on shelves, cause now it's like it makes the room smaller, right, I just need it to be visual, you know like I just need something nice.
Speaker 1It gives you options. Yeah, do you want to talk about what you're planning to do there or wait?
Speaker 2Yeah. So the other thing is, I got um these uh Oi, this is what is coming today. Um, how do I get to my list?
Speaker 1this is coming today, nope it might be out of the list because you bought it maybe orders uh these yeah so here is what's coming today beep, oh, these uh texture tiles and I'm gonna put them.
Speaker 2See, look how cool that is, that's gonna go. These tiles are gonna go in between the two shelves, just so there's some texture.
Speaker 1It'll look cool with the lights too shining on them and kind of changing the colors of them and making shadows and stuff, Like my whole thing was.
Speaker 2I wanted this space to not feel like a bedroom.
Speaker 1Right, and you were thinking too, because when you were thinking of redoing it, I was like, hey, send me photos of setups you, so I can try to figure out what the common denominator is. And it was like this hybrid thing of like warm and cozy, but also like cyberpunk, you know, futuristic, Tokyo-y, and I was like okay yeah, how do you like merge?
Speaker 1Because one is like very futuristic and cold, the other is very like woody and homey and I think you, I think you you were able to like hone in on the things you really liked and I think it's like a perfect balance of it.
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Speaker 2it is kind of slick and cool, but warm yeah, cozy, like I want to be cozy, not not too like slick. I like how that looks, but I don't want it in my space right, yeah yeah, yeah. So so figuring out all this stuff, it's hard because you never, I am not that visual Tom's really visual. To me it's like I need to kind of see it before I see whether I like it or not, whereas I think he's really good at picturing it in his head.
Speaker 1I can do mental Photoshop pretty well. Yeah, I can't do really good at like picturing it in his head.
Speaker 2I can do mental Photoshop. Yeah, I can't do that, I need to kind of see it and then, like, once you change a thing, then I like build off of that, so yeah, yeah, and then we took out your.
Speaker 1That's kind of cool. I don't think there's a way to show that, but it's crazy like how things have developed, because there's stuff that wasn't options a while ago. Like our house is nine years old, nine and a half years old, and the bedrooms had like ceiling fan ports. So it's like, okay, I'm gonna install ceiling fans in the rooms and that's about the last I ever thought about it. In my room I had a ceiling fan, which is actually from my old apartment, and I was like, okay, I'm not actually using the fan thing because we have decent ac, and especially in my room. I was like, okay, I'm not actually using the fan thing because we have decent AC. And especially in my room I was like moving, boom things and lights.
Speaker 1I was constantly bumping into the fan and then also, as I was getting like low angles of stuff, I was the fan. Like I Photoshopped the fan out of thumbnails so many times, because the little cords are hanging down the blade. You know you'd have a thumbnail of something. They're just this weird boy, this weird blade sticking in at the side over there. Yeah, um, so I had taken my fan out. When I redid my studio I put this little led light, which was the first time. I was like, oh, you can just put like a flat led light and not 100, happy with it, which is why you found that there's like you could just get super bright rgb led light, bedroom light, things, um, so we took out your ceiling fan so like here's what it.
Speaker 2You can't really see it see the ceiling uh, but there was a ceiling fan right now.
Speaker 1Oh, oh, hold on bam, so you can't really see it, but there was a ceiling fan and it came down pretty low yeah, so it just made the room very bedroomy, which is fine if it's a bedroom right, but it's not and you couldn't use the fan when recording because then it plays with the lights, the blades like do weird things with lights and reflections and stuff, and you have good ac so you didn't really need it ever anyway.
Speaker 1So you replaced it with like this incredibly low, like the light that's up there is, like this round here I'll find it okay, she'll find it's like maybe this round and it's literally like this thick, but it's full rgb and when it's on just plain white it's super bright when we first turned it on, after plugging it in, I thought that we had also turned on the studio lights. I was like it can't just be this light.
Speaker 2Here's what this looks like. So it's real thin like that. But what's cool about this light is that there's a light on top of it, so it does that same effect of the glow with the shelf right. So here's like this bottom part is obviously the, the light that's casting down into the room, but then, like, if you look at the ceiling, it there's like a glow, there's a glow it doesn't flicker on video yeah, like this here's 24, 30 and slow motion it's so thin, it's so nice, it's not that big.
Speaker 1It's smaller than it looks in that picture there, but um I don't know what house this is that doesn't have walls and their tv is just the tide.
Speaker 1What are these rooms? I don't know. Anyway, this is ai or something, but um, yeah, but it's like so cool because it takes. Now you don't have this thing hanging down in the middle of the room taking up space, um, and you have something that's useful, makes the space look better and can contribute to the vibe. So I ordered one of those. I'm going to replace mine. You ordered one for me I'm going to replace the one I have.
Speaker 2My whole thing is like how do I make this look Like if I were to design my own co-working space that I feel like I'm going to right, like when I go to starbucks or a coffee shop oh my god, I get so much work done. I don't know. You know, I think a part of that is other people are getting stuff done and then that makes me like feel productive also, but also just the space is like I don't know, it's just, I just get work done yeah how do I create that here?
Speaker 2like we could do that here. I just never thought about it that way before. Are we talking?
Speaker 1about this.
Speaker 2Yeah, so Tom did an awesome thing.
Speaker 1So now I'm going to. Just what is it? This one and this one. Look at that.
Speaker 2He put everything out of remote control. Yeah, Everything, except the two Pavo tubes that are there have to be turned on manually, but otherwise the background can be turned on with a remote and there's one button for both studio lights, the key light and the fill light. I used to have to like bend over. You said crawl behind the desk.
Speaker 1I still have to do a little bit. But yeah, you can't do it with the pavo tubes, unfortunately. But that, but that's okay, I think those could probably be swapped out with some other light I think it's possibly the whole thing on a couple of remote buttons and you never have to touch a light.
Speaker 2That's a huge.
Speaker 1And you have one for just your vibe as well.
Speaker 2See, that's the difference between Tom and I. It's like Tom loves setting up a new thing, for I hate turning on my lights. I do hate it um, there's no way around it you get joy out of setting every single thing up and like this goes here the lights.
Speaker 1I hate because I have to get down, I have to like click. It's just the pavo tubes, and the reason being because I love them, I love them, love them. But they have batteries built in so you can't when you, when you plug something into a remote you just leave it powered on and then you just turn off the remote and now the power is cut, but the light is still flipped on. It just is getting no power now we turn on the remote and with the pavo tubes, because they have built-in batteries.
Speaker 1You turn it off and they stay on because of the battery and so it'd be this weird thing where you can never turn them all the way off without doing it by hand, and then be weird for the batteries to be like constantly cycled and so it's. Yeah, the convenience of them is that they have batteries, but in this specific use case, the problem is that they have batteries yeah, all right, let's check in.
Speaker 2Uh, mike says, that was my biggest hurdle realizing that a sweet battle station for me is not a productive setup for youtube, except it is a set and I made another desk off camera for off camera work, split yours yeah, see, and like, I feel, I feel like that if, even if I had split it but was intentional with the split, but like I just was never intentional with the part, that was the workstation, ever like it, I just never. Never occurred to me. On a coffee says my new studio is also shared my profession, which means a lot of design considerations I wouldn't have otherwise because it has to work as both daily. Yeah, uh, let's see. Gill says my desk is facing a wall and on it is all the recording equipment. Behind me is also chairs and a functional podcast setup.
Speaker 1That's cool I took a lot of design inspo from things gill has done, little hacks and things yeah uh, homesick mac.
Speaker 2My new studio room is smaller than the old one but better designed. I've got Homestick Mac. My new studio room is smaller than the old one but better designed.
Speaker 1I've got three 3.5 meters by 3.5 meters.
Speaker 2Will also fit in the guest bed.
Speaker 1That's pretty decent size, honestly.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, because my room is I guess mine's four meters by four meters. So it's well, this is four meters by four meters, the same size. Oh, I think yours is actually a couple inches bigger than mine. They're the same size. Oh, I think yours is actually a couple inches bigger than mine, but the so Mac's room is slightly, slightly smaller than this, that's a good size still.
Speaker 2Mike says my camera shows a nice setup. Behind my camera is a disaster zone. Gil, I do wish I had some creative energy in front of me. My desk is all over the place sometimes which hurts the creative flow, sometimes Totally Yep Uh Dawn, my space is actually the end of our dining room. It has to be my office editing space and it's where I record my podcast and talking head portions of my videos.
Speaker 1Everybody has to make certain things work.
Speaker 2Yep.
Speaker 1Even Peter Peter Lindgren. His first videos were at his dining room table.
Speaker 2Same, that's where he started In my apartment, yeah, I didn't have any lights, I had to sit by the window.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's what I did too.
Speaker 2You know, use the sun, it's a good video. I had a roommate, so she would just like you know.
Speaker 2I finally told her just walk behind and it's fine. Let's see. Great inspiration for me. Yay, why be negative? You've inspired me. I'm really walking around making progress in my space as I listen now. Yay, that's so exciting. Jose clap clap color me inspired nice tiles. My biggest challenge is that I need to combine hardware storage. You know, you know who does this. Well, casey, because it looks like a set. It looks, it's like part of the set yeah the hardware storage.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, I don't know how to do that, but no, I think sometimes it works, sometimes it the thing that I really appreciate that I you know I'm sure I saw this, but Tom does this really well is like your background is so like it would be weird for anyone else to be in there, because every little thing in the background is so like there's a story behind each thing, and that's, I feel like when content creators could really like you could feel the heart of the space, because it's so them.
Speaker 1I think that's really special heart of a space oh my god um, the the thing that I tried to do with mine, which was taking inspiration from a lot of casey's stuff, was I knowing that it is a place that I filmed. I did also try to make it a place to hang out. So it's like I try to make it where you can kind of point the camera in almost any direction and have a decent looking background, but the background isn't a specific set because it is a place where, like I, would go and do things when the camera's not on.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1And that was a cool thing. That was a cool thing I wanted to do in mine was make it. It's very practical, Like the stuff you see in there gets used even when the camera's not on.
Speaker 2Let me take a picture now. I forgot to install like NDI, so I can't just show you. I don't know. Yeah, I think there's a plug-in you need to.
Speaker 1Well, you redid your computer a couple weeks ago. Yeah, I forgot to put it in.
Speaker 2So let me take a picture so you can see what it looks like with Tom in here.
Speaker 1And Melanie said when people's spaces just so them. Yes, I love it. Yeah, you don't want to copy and paste. You know something else into? Hello, I don't know.
Speaker 2Oh wait, hold on, let me get the ceiling light. Yeah, 2.5. I know, but it's actually yeah. There we go Ready. What is that? Is that my finger? That's my hand, what is this? Oh, here we go, ready set.
Speaker 1There we go. So, oh wow, I like that wide shot.
Speaker 2All right.
Speaker 1Isn't technology amazing? I know.
Speaker 2Well, what's cool also which, like you know, I feel a way about Amazon, but as I've been doing this rebuild, it's so nice that there are a lot of like relatively inexpensive things that make a huge difference that can get shipped the next day.
Speaker 1And this is a lot of times. Stuff like the shelves we built are quite heavy duty because they're just pieces of wood. But there are things too that don't need to be like industrial industry strength movie studio like that, don't need to be like industrial industry strength movie studio like we don't need that no no, it can totally be the consumer version of something yeah I had a thought of something else that we didn't talk about, and it slipped my mind. Oh, we switched your audio interface too oh my god that.
Speaker 2Let me tell you the anxiety of switching the mics. Well, not the mics, the mics, the interface.
Speaker 1I had to make the executive decision there. He just did it. I'm going to change your interface, but you did it because the two mics Well, because if you were just doing you, there's so many options, even the new Stream Deck thing that you can get, and you just plug your mic into your Stream Deck and you're done.
Speaker 2You can get the Streamer X where you have your video capture card and your See, it's like everything leveled up since the last time I like designed my space.
Speaker 1But I'm the wrench in this work, the fly in this ointment, because once a week I come in here and need to plug in a microphone, and so you need a two-channel interface, but you don't want something like a RODECaster or anything, so we were using the Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 that we had forever and swapped it out with the. Vocaster 2. And the difference here being that this has more clean gain.
Speaker 1So you were also using a booster which meant you had to have an XLR cable, went into a booster XLR cable to microphone and we took away the booster and xlr cable and now your mic just goes straight into the interface so you don't need that booster anymore. Um, and the cables go out the back of this where they go in the front of the scarlet. So, yes, you had the mic cables kind of like going around the interface but coming around the front.
Speaker 2You plugged it in through the front, which, like, makes sense if you change them out a lot yeah I never changed them, so so this one, they come out the back.
Speaker 1So that way it's totally streamlined. And I don't know I'm gonna push the thing I did. You can do which we haven't dove into yet. You can do like processing.
Speaker 2So I don't know, put some processing on your thing tom pushed a button and now this is supposed to be processed audio, whatever the heck that sounds like.
Speaker 1But it's kind of cool. Not that that's something that we would necessarily need to. I want to just hear what that sounds like. That we would need to do. But if you wanted to dial in, add some compression, add some EQ to your mic, you can. Let's see.
Speaker 1Sorry, you're gonna get echo oh, it sounds clean yeah, and there's a fun little app that you can do, and you can do that on the host and the guest. You can process it. The cool thing, too, which we don't need now. We're just in product review mode. I do have a review on this.
Speaker 2The cool thing, too, about this tom just launches, which is not.
Speaker 1Look at him, look at him go this happens when the cameras aren't on too. Um, we don't need this in your specific setup, I don't think. But uh, this is the only audio interface I've seen that has a dedicated camera output. So it's a 3.5 millimeter output to go straight to your camera. So if you did want to do dual podcast things and record directly into a camera, this is by far the easiest one to do that with, and I like, I like the design of it, I like the way the buttons feel it's a fun, it's a fun interface for sure.
Speaker 2OK, so here's what it looks like. Like right now. This is a picture I just took, bam. So here let me. There there's the new ceiling light. Like right now. This is a picture I just took, oop, bam.
Speaker 1So here, let me. There, there's the new ceiling light.
Speaker 2We got the mood lighting on, so no fan and that really freed up.
Speaker 1We don't have high ceilings.
Speaker 2But now it feels like a real high ceiling and you know it's real vibey when the camera lights are off. But I love it, but see so like in between the two shelves. That's where I'm going to put the tiles.
Speaker 1Give it some texture were there any other um, I don't know lessons learned or takeaways from redoing your setup that might be helpful for other people.
Speaker 2I mean, like the biggest thing was just being intentional with not just behind the camera or not in front of the camera, but also behind the camera if it's your workstation. I think that's like revolutionary for me. For some reason, I never even thought, I never even thought about that. But I think like so much of what we do as content creators is like when the camera is off, you know like you're editing, you're outlining, you're coming up with ideas, like all that you know you, you don't need it's. It would be cool to have a space that you feel inspired, you know, and, uh, I'm I'm just happy that I made like, took action on that intention because it does it like I even told tom I was like this feels frivolous, indulgent, like it feels unnecessary, you know, because it's like who cares what the heck I'm looking at? Like isn't the whole thing, isn't the thing that matters what people are going to see in the videos, but it's like, yep, this is also our business. The mom-pop shop down the street is going to design the entire space, whether it's the kitchen that they work in or the restaurant the customers are sitting in.
Speaker 2I was like, for us, this is our business, this is us building that brick and mortar space. So why wouldn't I, yeah, like, do it, you know, and um, yeah, and then, especially like I was looking at really cool gaming setups and like desk setups and desk inspirations, like looking out through all these hashtags and I would think that a lot of those people are just doing it for a hobby. And then when I'm thinking like well, this is kind of our, this is our bread and butter, and I'm not doing that, it's like why have I not Like why not, you know? But we'll see what happens in like three months if I actually, you know, am like more creative and more productive hopefully it's also cool.
Speaker 1It was neat going through, like some of the stuff you were looking at, because you were looking at peel and stick wallpapers, the tiles oh yeah there are a lot of things because some people are limited, like if you're renting, especially, you can't always mount stuff to walls, paint walls, etc. But it's crazy how many options there are for non-damaging or minimally damaging things.
Speaker 2Now to that's what I started with was peel-and-stick wallpaper and you know these are one of the things that. So thank goodness for Amazon, even though sometimes I feel you know, sometimes I feel a way about Amazon, the company. But where else am I going to get these cheapo but decent looking peel and stick wallpapers that you could put on for six months? If you don't like it, peel it off and put on another one? You know it's like so I was actually gonna do peel and stick like brick, like a. You know I was trying to do like the coffee shop or, um, wooden slats. You know that you could. You don't have to put anything into the wall, it's just a peel and stick wallpaper, but yeah it was.
Speaker 1It was fun. I mean, having spent many years living in apartments and things both of us. It's pretty cool to then be in a point, though, when you are fortunate enough to have a space where you can, like, like, paint the walls, oh yeah, drill holes in the walls, yeah, the biggest thing was like what shade of blue do we paint the wall?
Speaker 2And I was like, oh man, of course, like my instinct is paint the wall purple.
Speaker 1But like you already got a dark purple here.
Speaker 2Yeah, we can't do another shade of purple.
Speaker 1And so we can't do another shade of purple, um, and so yeah, anyway it's been like so fun.
Speaker 2It's been a real fun project. Yeah, it's been so fun. And then, like now, I feel like it's carried over to, like you know, even like tom, as soon as we finished this, he went in and like reorganized his cables behind his desk studio setup was good, but my charging station and my computer cable management.
Speaker 1Because my desk had been in a different spot, I was never able to access the back of it and now I can, so making it easy to plug things in and out of the computer and stuff.
Speaker 2And the other thought I had was like God, it was so fun working on all of this. But at companies there's an it department, there's a maintenance department, there's like people who do this, and I understand why, because it's it's a whole. Like we were having fun because we're painting, but like we're also working, you know, like that is, that is our job. And if company, like if someone at a company was like you know, I need to change my computer, they'd call IT or whatever, or call maintenance, and it'd be a whole thing.
Speaker 1It'd be done in three months.
Speaker 2Or it would be done like faster because you have a dedicated person. You know, because I can see how complex it all is to figure out how to make everything work and and all that. Yeah, that's a lot, it's. It's just like it's interesting how, uh, resourceful content creators are and everyone's had to figure it out.
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Speaker 1Yeah, like. We work with what we got and we do the best we can yeah and it's fun let's check in with uh comments before we wrap up here uh it's cat.
Speaker 2Did you disable the continuity camera for your iphone?
Speaker 1I don't know what that means I don't know if it was ever any. It's where iphone will automatically become a camera oh but I don't know, I forget the settings.
Speaker 2On that it is possible well, we'll do it for next time movie man, what mike.
Speaker 1This is the neat, the original neat worker B, which I have a review on. It's discontinued though, so it's kind of hard to find.
Speaker 1But I think I got it for like 80 bucks, like it was a really inexpensive mic. It's super cool looking. I love the way it sounds. It's a great little condenser microphone. They Worker B2, which looks a little different, and I don't know if that one's still available or not. Cat updated Streamer X and now my mic sounds awful, but for now using my Elgato Wave 3. Interesting, I've been using my Streamer X as video capture, but still the roadcaster for audio, which there's really no reason, since I pretty much only ever plug in one mic at my desk now Because I don't need the full four channel roadcaster at my work desk. I can use that for videos, um, but I like I just like the roadcaster. There's really no reason I couldn't just do it all with the streamer x, unless it sounds bad now I don't know.
Speaker 2Yeah, uh, mel, I love the vodcaster too.
Speaker 1It's nice I don't think you've played around with a nausea, but they're so like turn, turn this volume. This won't hurt anything. Turn this knob just oh wow, yeah it's nice mihal evening.
Speaker 2All hello, mike.
Speaker 1It's only 99 now for the vocaster 2, complete steal, yeah, I think when I reviewed it it was like 200 or something, but it's like 100 bucks. It has 72 or 76 decibels of gain, so you don't need any boosters with even like the sm7b or something uh, jose says how do you manage the ac noise?
Speaker 1it's on right now yeah so we do, we don't, so I think the way that we manage is like good microphones, I guess I mean you're using your main mic's, a dynamic mic that is better at picking up sound close to you.
Speaker 2I am on a condenser oh, so you may be able to hear if this were a mic review and we're doing tests high quality audio. You could probably hear the vent right there, but all our ac is also not insanely loud either yeah just because you're that's, I think if you had like the the wall or, um, like the window ones, those would be really loud because our actual ac unit is like on the other side of the house yeah, and that's what turns on.
Speaker 1It makes a loud noise and it just pumps the air. Yeah, in here uh, spiral lab.
Speaker 2I believe there's a direct relationship between our literal interior spaces and our metaphorical interior spaces.
Speaker 1It really does matter see that's what I think too, like I feel like up your space, you cable manage your emotion obviously there's a psychology behind interior design.
Speaker 2You know, I think it's a fact that if you walk into a room full of clutter maybe some people like I don't know, super artistic people, I think it's just like if you walk into a space that makes you feel I think you can walk into a space and it makes you feel anxious. I was going to say for me, like if it's messy, if it's cluttered, that would make me feel anxious without anything happening. But I think for some people it actually is like, oh yeah, like they kind of need it to be messy and I feel like you know, you could say the same thing about like super sleek, minimalist spaces. I feel like that also gives me anxiety. It's like like hospital. It's like too clean and too white and too sleek. Um, it's cool to look at, but like that's definitely not what I would want for my space. So I I think like the tricky part is figuring out what works for you yeah uh, movie man stuff says I agree with spiral lab there we go so did cat.
Speaker 1Uh, let's see audio. Hotline started with scratch and sniff I like, I have.
Speaker 2I have a memory of like doing this and sniffing, but I feel like it was uh, like a coloring book or something kevin said good job on the new office setup. Yeah, this is heather's brother who also has an amazing setup yeah definitely think of inspo from there well see, because kevin's setup is good, like work, workstation what he looks at and then also behind him.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2In an apartment, so it's like you know you could totally.
Speaker 1Yeah, if you can somehow pull that off.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Max says, for sustainability concerns, I swear I'll be doing what I can with what I've got. Otherwise you're free to shoot. And Gil said debating on getting the Streamer X. For the longest I've been thinking of doing a re-review on the Streamer X because I actually initially it was the thing I was most excited about with that batch of product releases, the thing I was most disappointed in with that batch of product releases, so much so that it just sat on the shelf for months because I was like mad at it. And then I kind of dug it out again to play around with it and firmware updates and stuff. So far Now I think I appreciate it differently and so I've been wanting to revisit it.
Speaker 2So I have two things before we Kevin says his is smoking mirrors on a normal day, it's a mess.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, we got to wrap up in a little bit.
Speaker 2So first thing is I did have to make an executive decision to completely not include my gaming setups, which makes me sad Because you know I don't want to not say I'm ever going to go back to my gaming channel, but for sure, like I got nothing connected. So before I had a PlayStation connected, nintendo Switch dock connected connected and then I could easily stream games that's not available anymore. So I had to build that back in if I ever wanted to come back which wouldn't be crazy like that wouldn't be impossible to do.
Speaker 2And then the other thing which actually made a big difference, a huge significant difference for like five dollars, is, uh, desktop wallpaper oh, like this yeah, so I always. You know I like the apple ones that just come on the mac, but um you bought like some packs I bought some packs and they're awesome, so here's what. I'm gonna drop the picture. I'm gonna drop the pictures of my wallpapers. Drop the pictures of my wallpapers into the chat so you can see, like what we're looking at.
Speaker 1We need to the chat into the stream the stream Like. Can you share files and YouTube chat?
Speaker 2Is this it yeah.
Speaker 1So here's one of my monitors and you'll see like why it makes me happy.
Speaker 2It's hard to be sad looking at that, right, uh, yeah, one of them is let's see how do I get like the preview icons uh, this one, is it this one the Elgato? Prompter has its own wallpaper this is what the prompter looks like.
Speaker 1It's like pixel art which is cool because you sort of see the screen and the mirror, so it kind of like reflects in a way that fits with the artwork.
Speaker 2And then this one. The tricky part with this is I bought these on Etsy and you really got to watch out for AI art.
Speaker 1There's some low effort AI art, there's some With some weird things happening. At first glance it looks pretty and then you look closer.
Speaker 2Yeah. Then it's like, oh, the hand doesn't finish or something. Or like the face is all weird, yeah. But like, I tried to look for graphic artists. Like if you look at their shop and their instagram it's like okay, this is your business, yeah, but um it, it's a huge like. I like the purple desktop wallpaper like yeah, but oh, it's a total.
Speaker 1But it's such a dear, it's such a difference I had to use the apple ones in mind when my setup was combined because the like the nature landscape wallpapers. If my monitor was on they didn't cast. It's for some reason not an issue in here, but if it was a colored thing it made me look blue or maybe oh really and so I had to use the natural ones, because they were more natural colors Funny.
Speaker 1I don't. I still use it now, but now I could switch more easily, so I don't know. We should wrap up though.
Speaker 2All right, well, so that was fun.
Speaker 1That was way fun. I'm excited to see by next next couple's table. Maybe there'll be more progs.
Speaker 2Yeah, and if you guys ever make upgrades to your space that you're excited to share, please share with us. We all learn from each other and get ideas from each other, so it's really cool to hear and see what you guys are working on.
Speaker 1Also, there should be a website database where you can submit all those, and it could be called MySpace, because it's where I put MySpace.
Speaker 2I knew we were going somewhere. Time to clear the table. I was a chair. I think now were going somewhere. Time to clear the table. I was a traitor.
Speaker 1I think now I'm peaking my audio there. Thanks for all the things. Hope you have a safe, happy, healthy, fun rest of your day and a great weekend and enjoy your studio spaces. Maybe, do some cool renovations.
Speaker 2All right.
Speaker 1Innovations.
Speaker 2See you later. Bye.