Music, Cameras, & Pivoting on YouTube w/ Audio Hotline

Let's catch up! Special guest Bronson from the Audio Hotline YouTube channel joins the podcast to talk music, camera gear, and the challenge of pivoting a channel based on evolving interests. 

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S14E03 | Series Episode 187
 
Podcast Artwork by Kevin Ramirez
Original theme music written by Patrick Boberg and performed by Mike Alvarez

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:31

Hello and welcome. My name is Tom. This is the Enthusiasm Project Season 14, Episode 3. Could it be? Yes, indeed. Sorry. Today I have a different setup, and also I'm not going to be alone, not going to be flying solo. I'm going to have a very special guest. And that's what we are, that's what we're going to jump into. So before we get started, let me introduce my guest, which is Bronson from the YouTube channel Audio Hotline. And also from a live stream that we did in this very room in person a couple months ago. Because Bronson visited us and we did some fun stuff that we're going to talk about later, which involves seeing of our my favorite band. I'm not going to say your favorite band, a favorite band.

SPEAKER_02 1:13

I mean, yeah, it's definitely a favorite band. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

It's definitely an band. And today the reason I'm using this different setup is because we're also using the YOLO Box Extreme. And for the video version of the podcast, I'm using two YOLO cams, the YOLOCam S7, which is a micro four-thirds interchangeable lens mirrorless webcam. So that's interesting. So I have one right here, and then I also have a tighter shot. And if you're listening to the audio version, I have basically a wide one that shows my whole desk, and then I have the tighter shot here. And we are using the YOLO box to record everything. And Bronson is also a guest through the YOLO box. But here is the magic. Actually, speaking of magic, I should talk about let's talk about our mics first. This will be the magic mic segment. Yeah. Um, because I don't have all my uh typical segments that I that I usually have, but I want to go for mic of the week because you have a new microphone and I'm using one that I've not yet used on the podcast. So Bronson, what microphone are you using?

SPEAKER_02 2:14

Uh it's the Ethos. Um what brand is it? It's the uh Earthworks. Earthworks, Ethos, yeah, obviously. Come on, come on, me. Uh yeah, no, it's actually the second time I've ever plugged it in. And uh yeah, no, I actually really like the sound of it. I was just commenting to Tom that I feel like it's way better than I expected, it being like a little bit more balanced and not as like hyped because I feel like there's just a lot of microphones that are very hyped. But I am also using um an SSL II Mark II, and I do have like the 4K mode on that, not 4K video, but 4K audio. So that is what's creating the little bit of high, you know, frequency boost. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:00

Cool. Uh the ethos is is as everyone knows, especially last season I did the different mic every episode. The ethos is one of my favorites, and it tends to be one of every it's such a good microphone for a long, like for a long thing like a stream or a podcast. It's not fatiguing. For sure. And I love that. Not for sure, because I am using Rode and not a shore microphone today. So I'm actually using a microphone I've not used for the podcast for, which is the Rode Interview Pro, uh, which for this podcast setup originally Heather was going to be able to join us too. And this is going to be an easy way to have two microphones wirelessly connected to my YOLO box setup over here just through USB. And that way I don't have to run cables across the table. This is a very clean-looking setup, and there's just no handling noise, not really any plosives. Mine has a big windscreen on it, and I like I like the way this microphone sounds, period. But when you put the windscreen on it, it kind of tames a little bit of the harshness, and then it works pretty well. And I've been working on a video all day with this, and it has uh it's been sounded pretty darn good. So with that being said, we've done our mic of the week. We've introduced our guest. Now I'm gonna do something that I've never done before on a full-on podcast episode. I am going to turn on auto switching. And now, in theory, I shouldn't have to look at the I shouldn't have to pay attention. We should just be able to have our conversation. So this is me talking, it's on me. And now I'm talking, and hopefully it switches to me.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Oh, hey, it did. Hey, that's that's actually pretty sweet.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

And if we both talk, if we're both talking over each other, and we're talking and we're both talking, just so weird. There it is.

SPEAKER_03 4:40

Yeah, it went to the split screen.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

Hey, so that is that seems like it's working great, actually. And yeah, uh, kind of as rather than being super robotic, in theory, this should have some sort of algorithm behind it that also helps the switching feel a little more organic, and that way it it kind of should feel like I'm manually switching it as a human. Uh, and so we're gonna test that out, we're gonna see how that goes. So uh with that said, let's jump into can I change this? Oh, I can. I can still take manual control over it, and then it just comes back to me. It's like no so I can change that. So, with that being said, let's jump in. And uh, there's a lot of stuff that I want to talk about today. The first one though, is I do want to talk about the experience of getting to hang out together in person.

SPEAKER_02 5:32

Yes, that was that was a great time. I had a great time, and I'm not just lying for the sake of the podcast. It was it was very fun. It really was.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

Yeah, so uh it kind of crazy. Actually, almost a year ago, February of 2025, there was an announcement that Blink182 was going to not only be playing a show at the arena where like I watch all the Firebirds hockey games and where I play hockey and stuff, but it was going to be the last show on a tour they were going on. They announced a tour, they announced all the dates. I was just like so excited, and I immediately told you. And then you were like, you know, we kind of joked. I was like, we have a guest room, and you were like, honestly, I might have to take you up on that. And then you did, and the sh the show wasn't until October, so they announced it in February, but it was it was like I just bought the tickets right away as soon as we could, and then uh yeah, then you came out. We got to go see Blink182.

SPEAKER_02 6:29

We just made it work, dude. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

Yeah, it was such a good show.

SPEAKER_02 6:34

It was like I was honestly blown away by it for sure. It really was awesome. It it was so good. Yeah, and it's I really think that oh, sorry, dude. Oh, wait, this is okay. We can talk over each other.

SPEAKER_00 6:47

It's totally okay, and then it should in theory.

SPEAKER_02 6:49

Hey, there it is. Look at that.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

Yep, there we go.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

It seems to really be prioritizing me, uh, which is as it should be, I guess. Yeah, that makes sense. No, I was just gonna say it was really cool that Heather was there. Um I mean, for many reasons, but also like sh the it's kind of a litmus test. The fact that she saw the show and then really liked it as well was kind of like, all right, this isn't just because I've liked them forever, like this is a legit good show.

SPEAKER_02 7:16

Yes, that does make sense, actually. It's always nice to have someone that like isn't necessarily like the biggest fan of the band there that can like corroborate that it's it was good, you know. And dude, I really think that honestly, it might have been like my favorite concert that I've ever been to. Like for real. And I've seen like so many concerts. Like, I'm like, I for real, like I really think it might be.

SPEAKER_00 7:44

That's that's I mean, it I I have you know, people like you take concert footage and people are like, Why film concerts you never go back and watch that? I have gone back and rewatched those videos like a lot of times. Uh it was just a good show, it's like a perfect set list because it was everything from like brand new songs to you know from the very like oldest songs. Um, like a really good set list. It was production-wise, it was awesome, sound-wise, it was awesome. The like the vibes were just good. Um and the thing that was really cool is that was uh two months before my 40th birthday, and I found out that Tom DeLong, his birthday is about a week after mine, and it was his 50th birthday. So for me, I don't know how you feel about this, but not just watching them and watching them be great, but watching them like all upwards of 50 years old, not that 50's old, but like to be doing what they were doing at 50-ish years old was uh was pretty sweet, and it made me feel good about like you know, sometimes sometimes you just get up in your own head about that kind of stuff, and it actually made me feel like really good.

SPEAKER_02 8:55

So yeah, no, for sure. And I I definitely I can say that like well, they've all had some kind of health scare, health problem. Yeah like Travis Parker was like literally in like a plane crash, right?

SPEAKER_00 9:09

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 9:09

Uh wasn't uh Mark, wasn't he like didn't he have cancer?

SPEAKER_00 9:13

He had cancer, yeah. And then uh Tom, I believe, had like uh some back issues and a bunch of you know, then there's like substance abuse that come with like the pain relievers and all like so everybody's gone through life.

SPEAKER_02 9:27

Yes, yeah, for sure. And they and they were doing it, man. It was awesome. It was it was cool to see, dude. And and honestly, like I I was worried that it was gonna be like kind of not not really that I really feel like they're old, because like I like you said, 50 really is not old, but I just felt like they they might seem, you know, like a little bit aged, but dude, it it really did seem like they were just like 20, 30 years old, just shooting the shit with or shooting the crap with their friends and uh it's okay, you're allowed. Yeah, so okay, that's good. Okay, I didn't know. Just you know, like in and that's like part of the reason and part of like why I fell in love with Blink 182, is like it was actually one of the first things I ever listened to, I think, was the Mark, Tom, and Travis show was like their live CD. And so, um, like, dude, I just I loved that, and I loved like the jokes that they were making and everything, and it was just so it was just so fun, and like it was so inappropriate and it was so like awful, honestly. But I just like it was just funny, man. I don't know. Yeah, but to me that's like con like comedians, you know.

SPEAKER_00 10:33

That's the that is the joke, and with their kind of humor, and let that's what I've heard from things I've seen like behind the scenes of them is that like they're trying to get each other to laugh, but also half of the joke is like how I don't know if offensive is the word, but like how wrong the joke is is the joke. Um for me as someone who likes cheap dad jokes and stuff, when I tell jokes, a lot of times people are and I'm like, why did the bicycle fall over? Because it was too tired. I do think that's a fairly clever joke, but also the joke is that it's a bad joke.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

When I was a teacher and I would tell those jokes to my class, it was like, I'm not trying to get you all to laugh at the joke. I'm trying to get a sea of faces that are in pain, and that's fun for me.

SPEAKER_03 11:19

Like, yeah, that's true. Yeah, so I definitely get that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:23

Yeah, I don't know. They just killed it. It was one of those things, it reminds me so much of my very first, not my very actually wait, my second Aquabats concert, October 20. October, wow, October 25th, 2002. So quite a few years before. Um, I saw that and I was just like, I had like a feeling afterwards that was almost like um motivated, inspired, like I want to make stuff, I want to do stuff, like I want to whatever. I had like that same feeling after that show, and it was just like I don't know, it was fun. And I know like you you said the the Mark Thomas Travis show was like you know, uh an early album for you. What's my age again was the first song that I ever noticed the bass line in when that came out. I didn't know I didn't even know at the time what the difference was between like guitar and bass because they yeah, if you don't know, they kind of look the same. Oh, yeah, for sure. And I didn't know like sonically what the difference really was, but I just I heard Mark's bass line in that song and I liked that sound. And uh that was the first time I ever noticed it, and it's like you know, and I have a Mark Hoppas signature bass on my wall over there, which is very cool. So there was also, though, there's something else that I wanted to bring up about our uh our trip or your trip here. Uh so Blingwin A2 was a long time interest, passion, whatever. There was also there was a a longtime interest of yours that you sh introduced me to as a at the time a 39-year-old. Any idea what that what that blooming interest might be?

SPEAKER_02 12:55

That would oh my gosh, coffee, dude.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

Yes, yeah, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Why did I not immediately think of that? I don't understand like where where is my mind right now? Yeah, dude. Uh I'm so yeah. I am uh I'm so happy that I got you into coffee.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

Yeah, I had no idea. I one, okay, I did not realize you were as into coffee as you are. If you don't know, if you watch Bronson's YouTube channel, you see like these very well put together mic and audio reviews and stuff. Um also you brought paraphernalia with you, like on a plane for creating coffee to your standards.

SPEAKER_03 13:34

Yeah, I did.

SPEAKER_00 13:37

And you also did research because before before you came, you searched out some local spots to us, and you were like, I want to try this coffee shop.

SPEAKER_03 13:46

And I was like, sure.

SPEAKER_00 13:48

I don't we got Starbucks's, uh, and you were like, you're like, no, I want to go here. And so we went to a local coffee shop that I had I'd actually like heard of it, but had never gone to. Uh and uh it was you, me, and Heather. It was the morning after the Blink 182 show, and I was just like, Oh, let's get like a snack or something. And I don't think I got my own drink that day, but I tried all of yours because you got a couple, Heather got something. I was like, okay, this tastes good. I've always loved the smell of coffee and even the flavor like coffee ice cream, but I like drinking a coffee was something I never really did. And anyway, it seemed good, it went well with like the croissant and the pastries we had, and so afterwards we went back and I got my own, I got my very own big boy coffee. Oh my gosh, man. I know I was so excited. And it's so I have been going a couple times a week ever since, and they have a they opened a second location, which is like super nice, and it's even closer. Uh, and so it's it's cool because it's a local shop and they're really good, but it's like I you told me they're really good. I'm like, it seems yes, it's my only frame of reference.

SPEAKER_02 14:58

Yeah. Well, and like like the way that I just I so long, I guess long story long, um it's like it's kind of a situation where I usually just look at coffee shops and I just see if they're like into fair trade or like you know, just stuff like that, especially if they have like light roast coffees on hand. I usually like lighter roasts and everything. So and it I like I mean it's pretty apparent when a coffee place like knows coffee and actually wants to perform very well. Like it's it's very obvious in like their description and bio and everything. So I was very excited to try that place, and I told Tom the other day, I was like, I really think it's the best coffee place that I've ever been to. That's insane to me. And like that is is crazy, but like for real though, it is that incredible, and like I've been to like like I told him that second place was like Snowy Owl in um Massachusetts or Cape Cod, like Massachusetts. I think it where where was it? I can't remember. Um, but it's Brewster, I think. Yeah. Um but and I mean, dude, my brother-in-law is like he's he's an incredible, and I honestly don't count him as like of a place, I would say, because like he did own his own coffee place, but I feel like it was just a bit different in the sense of like it was just like a solo thing, and he was awesome. Like he is, you know, he's a big reason that I learned a lot of that stuff, but it was kind of funny because he like he knew all that stuff, and I like was kind of dipping my toe into it and kind of going into it for the first time, and then he just solidified that like the way that I was going was the right way, and I was like, Okay, yeah, you know, that's sweet. But um, dude, I I don't I I could literally talk about tea and coffee. I'm like a I'm a tea guy, I'm a coffee guy. Like it's it's literally the only thing that I drink aside from water. Like, literally.

SPEAKER_00 17:05

You should you could have another YouTube channel, it's like spill of tea or or something. Uh I can't think of a yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Yeah, well, dude, I think that um so that was actually one thing that I did think about initially was like I I kind of wanted to do like a coffee-related YouTube channel, but I was like, I feel like it's it's kind of not really played out or anything, but I just feel I wasn't really sure of my abilities at that point of like being able to frame up a shot and really like nail it or anything. And then I remember seeing Peter McKinnon for the first time and being like, oh, this guy like just nails coffee beerl all the time on my face.

SPEAKER_00 17:47

Right. I forgot. Yeah, I forgot about the coffee beer craze to like write it down.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

It was it was yeah, it was bad. And honestly, it it kind of sucked because it really did like put a like a damper on like that world, I feel like.

unknown 18:06

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

And it was it it was a it was a little bit of a bummer, I will say. Just like the matcha latte, like whole like uh what is it? Was it called like when a guy is posing for a girl or whatever? What is that called? Like the uh it's like a thirst trap or whatever, but like it's like it's per oh a performative male. Performative male. Okay. They've ruined matcha lattes. And I'm like, dude, you can't ruin the matcha latte. Like I'm married and I have a kid, and I have uh well, recently deceased put five cats, four cats now, I guess. But and I was like, dude, you can't ruin the like you can't take that from me, dude. Like you can't take the the matcha latte and make it performative male and just assume that every guy is that well, like I I'm not that guy, but a macho latte, man. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but dude, I don't know if you've seen the whole performative male thing.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

It's no, this is new to me, but I don't know that that's gonna be in my search history, but yeah, sure.

SPEAKER_02 19:01

It is uh it's insane, dude. Like it's just like a dude that goes and orders a macho latte and then chills and reads like uh a very feminist, like prominent world history book, essentially, and just like it's just he's just like reeling them in, you know, just okay.

SPEAKER_00 19:22

So it's not it's not because they actually believe these things, it's they're trying to like project the image. Okay, exactly. This this is what someone with ethics would do kind of thing.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

Exactly. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 19:33

Well, I guess, yeah, performative, that makes sense then. Yep. Um yeah, so anyway, I owe you a huge thank you uh for that, and so does the coffee shop because we've been paying some of the bills lately.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

Oh I'm sure yeah, man. Yeah. No, it's yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:49

No, I um I actually just ordered some coffee beans that they also order from. It's called uh an arcade, it's a place that's um local, like up there. I think it's like I think I think I'd read like 70 minutes away from the place or something.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

I think it's in Riverside, California said, which is like 45 minutes away.

SPEAKER_02 20:08

Okay, yeah. Yeah, so the yeah, it's like a local place. And dude, it is yeah, it's just great. It's great coffee. It's just it's very good. But the it's called Everbloom if you if we didn't say that.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. Oh yeah, sorry to Barista, no, Everbloom if you're watching, not sponsored, but uh would like to be.

SPEAKER_02 20:28

Hey, man, you know, yeah, for sure. Yeah, they're awesome. Dude, the I I told him at the time, but the barista was just like it was incredible. Like the stuff that she could do, I was just like, this is insane.

SPEAKER_00 20:43

Like the way she was like whipping the the things and like you know, I don't know, it was it was like a uh Western gunslinger. She was kind of being a performative female, honestly. Like if I'm gonna be real about it. She didn't even like coffee. I've I've now gone enough to have had coffees made by several different baristas, or I don't know if a male barista is a barista, but uh uh I think it's just barista, but I never have thought about that. Okay, several different baristas, and they've all been absolutely fantastic. And they do they can do like you know the art and everything. And I had to tell them the other day because they like they do the art and they they give you the drinks, and they're like, Here you go, like order for Tom, and it's all beautiful, and then they give you the lids, and I was like, I just want you to know I do feel bad every time I put a lid on top of this. So, like, dude, right?

SPEAKER_02 21:33

Yeah, no, I get it, man. I totally get it. I know, and that's the thing that it does suck because like, and that's exactly how Darren felt. My brother in law is like he would do this like gorgeous art, and then he would just literally just put a thing, and I could see just his soul just like being just leaving him every time, just like, oh man, yeah, it's gotta suck.

SPEAKER_00 21:55

But yeah, I mean, yeah, they're paying, so it's fine, you know. Yeah, it's fine. I think they're Probably used to it. So the other thing with that, what I have discovered though, is as someone who's not had not consumed coffee, I've had like, you know, I was going to say I've had Coke, but I mean Coca-Cola. Very different effects. The caffeine content in Coke, zero. And the caffeine content in coffee is very different. And this is something I had known, but I had not felt it. And especially the first few times I went to Evergloom and got coffee. I like for several hours afterwards, like my you can see it on like my watch, my heart rate is like up high. I'm like rushing, but I'm like crazy productive. So I've learned don't do that on like a day you want to chill and don't do it in the afternoon. Like for me, it has to be in the morning when I know I'm going to do something. Like today, I've been filming this video and working on this multicam thing all day. Would have been a great day to go get a coffee in the morning. And energy would have had a place to go, but like I cannot, it really has an effect on me. Um, so it it gears me up for the rest of the day, which gears me up to switch over to our next topic and talk about a little bit of uh audio video gear.

SPEAKER_03 23:10

Ooh, I like it.

SPEAKER_00 23:11

That was that was uh I'm like Tony Braxton. I'm a smooth operator. Yeah. Is it she wasn't that Tony Braxton?

SPEAKER_02 23:18

Wait, I think it was. I know Tony Braxton, but I don't I I Smooth operator? I don't know. I'll uh it is, dude. I think yeah. Uh no, it's it's uh that's Sade or whatever. Sade? Sade. Yeah. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 23:35

I just know it was a song that uh post-divorce my dad wrote my dad listened to all the time when I was a kid. So I have like strong memories of Smooth Operator. I think he also listened to a lot of Tony Braxton. I don't know. But then also like Limp Biscuit and Ozzy, so it is eclectic tastes. That is uh those are interesting. Like what? I don't know. Uh and then I'm over here, you know, keeping it simple with Liquid A2 and Aquabats.

SPEAKER_02 24:06

So Unbreak My Heart. Unbreak My Heart is a Tony Braxton series. That's a good song, man. That's a good song. I will say that's a good song. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I just had to, I just had to, yeah, I just had to put that out there.

SPEAKER_00 24:19

No, the people need to know. This is why. This is why two middle-aged white men need to be on a podcast talking. People need to know about these things. It's very important. Uh people do need to know a little bit about gear, because obviously, like I haven't, it's been a minute since I've done a podcast episode. Uh, I wanted to do a catch-up episode all about gear, but I couldn't uh couldn't muster the courage to do my catch-up episode yet, at least. Uh, so you have to relish the this one for the time being. Proud of that. So um, but you and I talk about gear all the time. Uh yeah. Because we text on a pretty much daily basis, and we also use an app called Marco Polo to just like send video messages. So we're always half of the video messages are just show and tell. Like, look at this and look at that, and like try this out. Uh, it's basically like YouTube channels that nobody else watches, uh, which is that's true.

SPEAKER_02 25:12

It it really is, honestly. Like, I really feel like we could probably just post a lot of those videos.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

Actually, I did. I posted one of our Marcos as a members only video, it was it was a webcam comparison, and I was like, honestly, this is kind of good. Like, that's right, dude.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

I forgot about that.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

Yeah, would you mind if I just posted this? And I did. Um yeah, so that that was funny. But uh, you have gotten some new gear, and and obviously today with this podcast setup, I'm I'm using not new gear, it's stuff I've had for a while, but I'm using it in a different way to kind of like I've been doing a lot of podcast setup stuff lately. And so I've done like you do the full version with Sony mirrorless cameras, you can do eCam. Now we're doing YOLO box, and then the the YOLO cam, the S7, which I think you have one, um is very interesting because it was like it's the camera itself is $700, no, $800 with no lens. You got to get a lens. Not that you have to like spend a ton of money just any micro four thirds lens that you like. But um so that's pretty expensive for a camera that has no buttons or a screen or a battery or anything and can't record internally.

SPEAKER_02 26:24

Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

But there is, there is, I think, uh, and Heather's one of these people, there, there's a huge market for this kind of thing for people who want mirrorless camera quality without having to like be camera people, which I think you and I have a hard time understand, like not being a camera person because we like it so much. Yeah. But there are a lot of people who like don't want to deal with that. So it's been really fun. I would legitimately make this my like my desk camera that I use for my streaming setup and stuff, which is currently the EOS R. The only downside for me is the YoloCam S7 has really good autofocus. Like, hopefully, you've been able to see it throughout this video. It's super fast, super accurate, but it's not uh I don't know, I guess most cameras autofocus is in the sensor. It's not like lens or sensor based. It's there's a little thing off to the side of the lens that that it's it's almost like the thing you can add to some of those like DJI, like the Ronin.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

Is it LIDAR technology? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

I I don't want to lie and say that it is because I don't know if it's LIDAR, but uh it's something like that. It's awesome and it works great. Downside is if you put the Elgato prompter on it, it blocks it and then it doesn't work. So normally, yeah, if you're using a camera that autofocuses through what it's seeing through the lens or whatever, you can put the prompter on it and it's still gonna focus. This one you can't, and I need the prompter at my desk. So that's the only reason that this isn't my desk camera. But if you're someone who doesn't use a prompter, um, like right now, I actually just have a screen off the side of the camera, it's working fine. If you don't use a prompter, this would be a perfect setup for that because you never and it's been on these things. I mean, I leave them on a lot, but they're designed to be on for a long period of time. They've been on for eight or nine hours just today, and they're fine. Uh, same with the YOLO box and everything. So uh when you're really trying to put like some torture tests here. The YOLO stuff has gotten like super good from the first one like six years ago to now. It's like it's so different, it's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

Oh, oh, by the way, I have the YOLO box S3, the webcam through the card. Oh, yeah, yeah. Right? I was using that earlier in this setup. Yeah, no, dude, that is like it is very good. Like, it is shockingly good, honestly. I was very surprised by it. And yeah, I I don't know, man. It's like I would say that you could absolutely like start a channel with that. Oh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_00 28:58

I mean, it's it's a $200, it's not a PTZ, because I did a I did a podcast setup video that was based around the OBSBot PTZ webcams, like running into eCam. So it's like, okay, you already got your computer. Um you can do similar things with OBS for free. So you just buy these webcams, you can get all three of them for you know the cost of like one S7, and you have a really cool PTZ setup, it's gonna follow you, but obviously, like the image quality of these is different. But the S3, it does it's not a PTZ cam, it's just a webcam. Actually, mine's right here. I was using it in this setup earlier as the like the master shot camera. Um it and it mixes with these cameras super well. It's mixed with my FX3 sometimes. I've used it as a top-down camera a ton in videos. And like the it for sure you could start if you needed if you can film in a setting where you don't need to like have a an independent camera that's on a battery and a memory card, you could for sure start a channel with this $200 webcam and it would look awesome. Um but what's not a $200 webcam is the camera you I saw you holding. I think it's the camera you're holding.

SPEAKER_02 30:07

Well, what was that? The oh, yeah. Oh, this. Sorry, I couldn't hear you over this A75. Right. Dude, I'm just saying though, look at this. Like, look, oh, oh, oh look, look at that, dude. I just break it.

SPEAKER_00 30:25

Okay, so okay, that is legitimately. Here's my A7 IV. That is legitimately a thing. The camera has so many features. If I were to upgrade to it, that would be a huge reason why. But can you tell me? And I'm not I'm not even talking to you about this like off off pod. The A7 IV has the traditional flippy screen. I know that one is a higher quality screen, like the the panel is a better panel, but the design of it, the way that it does whatever transformer thing you just showed, why is that better? Because also like the A7R5 does it. Like, tell me why it's better.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

Okay. So for me, especially like I I feel like I do like a decent amount of handheld video. Like, I don't really in my videos per se, I feel like I usually use like a uh what is the the Edelcrone like little hand thing or the slider that I or they there it's it's an iFootage one, the uh the translator or whatever. Yeah. So I don't I really don't use it, but for like events and stuff, I do exclusively handheld. Like and so um, but just being able to do this and have your center of gravity not be just slightly off where you're like, Oh, I you know, like I feel like I'm on, but just like having it just be right there and you're just locked off and it's just perfectly in line with the lens, perfectly in line with the camera, it is such a big deal. And I feel like that's what people really complained about for a long time, and also like overhead shots were just like I felt like it was always like I would just always make it crooked or whatever. Where I do that, and it would be like this, you know. Yeah, and I'd be like this, and I'd just be like, Oh man, I'd uh hope it's straight, but then I'd get it in and it it would not be straight. But it's just like it's such a massive difference, just being able to just like honestly, like just that alone is so nice, and that's one of the reasons that I think that they did initially go to that like a 6400 style body where it flipped over the top instead of like to the side where they were like, Okay, let's test this out. Let's see if they'll let's say people will shut up about it with this. This actually makes a so much sense.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

So I have the the RX 100 Mark V. This is a channel, the camera I started my channel with, and it it has like the old school Sony flip screen where it goes out from the bottom, yeah. You can you can go down and then it flips up. I think a lot of their mirrorless cameras didn't do this because it was like blocked by the viewfinder and stuff. Yeah, so a lot of them it was stuck like this, and people were mad about that because they wanted the you could flip out and then you know you have that situation. What you just said though makes so much sense. I didn't consider the like I don't know, Senator Gravity, the alignment.

SPEAKER_02 33:24

Yeah Yeah, yeah, it's great, dude. It's it's on it's such a like minor deal, like it it seems so minor. It seems like honestly, like I'm making a big deal about nothing. Like it really does. And I understand if like you if you feel like that really isn't like a big deal, like who cares, dude? You know, like but dude, once you try it, you're like, oh, I get it. Like I get and like get why it's been so hard to just hand hold and like be kind of off to the center and just be like, okay, hopefully this is good, you know. Like I yeah, I don't know. It just it's just different, it just feels way better, you know. But that was honestly, once I saw that that screen was on there, that was the number one reason I had to get it for okay.

SPEAKER_00 34:09

But but are you so tell me and us where the A7 V fits in your workflow? Like, is it your main camera? Does it compliment something? Did you get rid of a camera for it? And then aside from the very awesome screen, uh, what like what are the standout things, especially like for someone like me? Uh actually this this month marks the four-year anniversary of my A7 IV and I. And I, you know, I got my three Sony cameras, and I just kind of like I've been interested in other cameras, but they have just checked all the boxes for what I need. So even though there have been, you know, like I would like that new style of screen and just a higher quality screen, I love like the FX2's viewfinder. I would love that on my FX3. Um, yeah, even though I do have an A7S3, which uh yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:00

Um but it is different though. I I do agree with that. It is like the body style is way different, and like and the internal fan is awesome, but also like the FX2, like you can actually move it up and down based off of like where you're at, right? So it's like it's like a viewfinder.

SPEAKER_00 35:22

And so there's been cool stuff where it's like, oh, I would prefer to have that feature, I'd prefer to have that, but I'm curious like if there's like even if if you have like an A7 IV where it's like the A75 is worth upgrading to or selling the A7 IV and getting it or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 35:43

Oh man, I think it really is, it really just does depend on like your needs, because here's here's where it fits in for me. And I and I told you a little bit about this, but it was like so for a while, like I I shoot some events and I shoot like photos at them, and it's usually a dark environment, and I need to shoot fast, like and I like and I need it to be mechanical because there are like artificial lights in the back and it can be just a you know, just a mess with banding and stuff. So I just needed a camera that was essentially fast enough and they could just pull it off essentially, you know, because I feel like the A7 IV, I would just miss shots occasionally, you know, and like and it wasn't like it was bad. Like I I I pulled it off and it was fine. But I feel like the the A7 V is just significant of a difference enough, especially when it comes to like shooting speed, that it's awesome. Like if if you're going to shoot like sports at all, I would absolutely no hesitation. If you have an A7 IV, sell it, get the A75 for real. Like like no hesitation whatsoever. Like, but if you're just gonna shoot videos like this, A7 IV is great. Like, I th I don't think that you need to upgrade for any reason, unless, of course, you are shooting B-roll handheld and like you notice a jello effect or whatever. In that case, I mean either slow down your pans or you know, or just accommodate that, you know. But I it's it's tough though, dude. Like I I really do think that it is an awesome camera. It is it it might be actually my favorite Sony camera, like that I've had. Dang and so again, I'm and I'm shooting on an A7S3 right now. I'm looking at an A7 IV right here, and um I I mean I like I like it. I like those, but like I said, so the the main reason that I got it was actually just to replace my Canon R5 because the Canon R5 shoots very fast and it was and it was just perfect for that, you know. And I would love for this to shoot like 7k 30p or whatever, or open gate. You know, I'd love that. I would love it. I mean, I really, I really would love it. I don't care. Like, I mean, like I'm being sarcastic, but like I I yeah, like I absolutely would love that. But um, but I just I would just so deep into the Sony ecosystem that I was like, I need to give this a shot, and if it does work and it does land, I feel like I can stay here, you know. Okay, and it definitely fell as I I I feel like it landed. Like I feel uh feel very good.

SPEAKER_00 38:36

You were so excited when you ordered that camera and then when you got it. Yeah. Um okay, so that actually makes sense for for video, unless like like 4K 120, for example, virtually uncrop 4K 120, something I use all the time on my FX3 A7S3. So it doesn't matter to me personally that the A7 IV didn't have it, because I have other cameras that do. Um and when I'm out just with this one, 4K60 is fine because I do a lot of handheld, you know, handheld beatroll and all this stuff.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

So yeah, the handheld is honestly great in 4K 60 on that camera. Like it does have a 1.5 times crop and everything, but it I think it speeds up the sensor to like around 15 milliseconds, and you don't notice that jello effect at all. Essentially, like it's it's way better. I think it's 26 milliseconds or mil I don't know what I don't know the exact numbers, but um, you know, but I'm pretty sure this new one's like 13.5 or something like that, like all the time. Like essentially just all the time. Got you. And it's awesome. And it like it I mean, like, I think it's it's almost as fast as the A7S3, is okay as far as that goes.

SPEAKER_00 39:48

Which is crazy for a much higher resolution sensor. That is uh that is kind of impressive. Okay, so I I see that makes it a little more clear where the camera does and doesn't fit in insert workflows. It seems like an awesome camera. Like I have no no qualms, nothing bad to say about it. It just uh you're the I did a video with Mark Bennett when the camera was announced and neither of us had it yet, and then he since well he ordered it that day and has since gotten it. I haven't talked to him much about it though, and then you ordered it pretty much at the same time, and I've talked to you more about it. So you guys are the only people I know personally that have it, and that's how I'm getting my uh my info.

SPEAKER_02 40:28

Okay, so I did look it up because why not? Um the A7SII does shoot actually 8.7 milliseconds, and then in 120 it's actually 7.7, which is insane.

SPEAKER_00 40:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 40:45

So I mean, like, but I mean the the essentially like 13 to 14 that the A75 does, like it's not noticeable at all. Like at that point, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:55

I've and especially again with such a crazier high res sensor, like yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:01

I mean, yeah, 33 megapixels versus 12, you know, like that's it's pretty significant for sure. But honestly, I was really just thinking about oh, this is gonna sound crazy, but I was thinking about just getting another one and just selling literally everything.

SPEAKER_00 41:18

Knowing you as I know you, that doesn't sound crazy at all, honestly.

SPEAKER_02 41:20

And and to the and and to be insane, so like you're you're literally an insane person. So they're not gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 41:31

Um, and it's funny you say that because I I'm really happy with my camera setup because each one kind of serves a different purpose. Um prior to having Sony, though, I had two EOS Rs, and it was so nice having two of the exact same camera because like every setting, every menu page was exactly the same. I could like easily operate the camera without even looking, like just like reach and push the buttons blind behind the camera and change the settings correctly and stuff. And now, like, there's there's always a hesitation of like FX3, okay. No, and the A7S3, it's over here, and then the A7S III and A7 IV look pretty much the same, but not everything is the same. Like the A7 IV, I can push the trash can twice to delete something. The A7 III, I cannot do that. There's like there's like little little hiccups. Uh the the FX3. Oh my gosh, my huge complaint on the FX3, which is only if you have the A7S III or a similar camera, is the menu button, the FX3 has a menu and a mode button, and they're the same shape. Yep. And which is the same shape as the menu button on the A7S3 and the other cameras, but it's flipped. So the FX3's mode button is where the menu button is on the other cameras. And I I always, to this day, having the camera for four plus years, I push the wrong button every time first. If if I'm not looking directly at the labels, I always push mode when I made the menu.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

So many times in this case. Like I've literally Yes, there it is. It's you know, so and yeah, and this is the A750.

SPEAKER_00 43:06

Thank you for I didn't have a camera to visualize That's just my face, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_02 43:10

Let's see if I can actually Oh no, oh no. Okay, okay, maybe. Yeah, dude. So it's it is just different enough, like that it drives you well, it's the opposite essentially, and it drives you insane, man. Yeah, it is like it is definitely like a big deal. I feel like if you have like an A series camera and like an FX camera, or an FX30 or an FX3 or FX2, I guess. Um, yeah, it it does, it would it drives me insane. I literally have done it so many times, dude. So many times. This is an FX30, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 43:46

But which, yeah, same as the FX3 body though. Um yeah, so that I actually I'm really happy with I I like having I each of my cameras has specific strengths, and so I'm I'm pretty happy with that, but I do remember just the smoothness of the workflow when I had two of the same cameras and that's all I was using. So wanting to just get I just have two A75s and I'm done and then I I bet you it wouldn't be long before you ended up with a third one. Uh totally makes sense to Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:17

Well and that's like what I was thinking is like, you know, keep the A7S III for a little bit, just get another A7 V, you know, sell the A74 FX30 Z V E one.

SPEAKER_00 44:30

Um Well that would make that would be see the the thing that would be smart about that would be it would save a little bit money, a little bit of money that could then go into the other hobby that you and I have gotten interested in lately, which uh can take some money. And that is Yes, yes, it can.

SPEAKER_02 44:49

Do you know what I'm talking about? 3D printing, yep. Oh yeah, there we go.

SPEAKER_00 44:53

Yep, yes. So I wanted to do, I was going to do an episode where I talk about like why my channel has halfway become a 3D printing channel now, um, to the point where it might be confusing to some people. And I'll I I can do an episode where I get into that, but yeah, you and I uh I mean I've been into 3D printing since before it was cool.

SPEAKER_02 45:14

Um really I I started very recently when it was cool, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:20

Which was the way because I and that's the way to do it because I got into it, I got really into it, and then I got kind of burnt out onto it, and like literally my 3D printer for years was just it was utility. It was just like, okay, I have a printer, sometimes I need to print stuff, and it's nice to have a little 3D printer, I can bust out and make something, but it wasn't like it was literally it got to the point where I was like like I have to I have to set this thing up. I like I kind of dreaded it. Um and you last actually it's been a while, I don't know, almost no, not a year, maybe last summer. You got when did you get your first printer?

SPEAKER_02 45:56

Yeah, I you know, I don't know. It would have been I think it was like um it would have been April or May. Okay, so like almost probably May, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:09

And you got the you got the Bamboo Lab A1, was it the Mini or just the A1? Mini was the Mini. Okay. It was the Mini, yeah. And I had the Prussia Mini, was my like printer that I I've had that one for like seven years now, or since whenever it came out. Um and you had the bamboo lab, and it's crazy because like when you visited you, you're like, here's some prints that I made, and not only was the print quality really good on them, but also you're like, I designed this, and it's like like this is I can design a box, like like a bin to store stuff in.

SPEAKER_02 46:37

Yeah, it's like the bamboo just makes it, they make it so easy, you know. That's what everybody said the Apple or Mac or whatever of the the printing world, I feel like, you know.

SPEAKER_00 46:47

That's what everybody said, and and like my my brother-in-law uh had one. Actually, I didn't realize this. He has three P1s, bamboo lab P1Ss. Oh my gosh, dude. I only knew that he had the one. I didn't realize he went crazy and built a whole factory. But um he got it. I've had like another friend that had it, and they would show me some of their prints, and I was kind of like, these are multicolor, the quality's really good. How are you even doing this? And so I kind of knew that if I were to get a new D new 3D printer at some point, it would be a bamboo, but I had no real plans to do it until luckily it was the week of Black Friday. Um, I needed to print something, and the power supply on my Prusha like it started shooting out blue sparks.

SPEAKER_02 47:29

So that's right, dude. That's terrifying, man. You don't want that. You don't you don't need that, you don't need that concern.

SPEAKER_00 47:35

No, I was always hesitant to leave those printers like unsupervised, but after that, I was like, yeah, I have to be like, I can't use it really unless I'm like literally sitting right next to it with a fire extinguisher. Um, so I was like, you know what? It's the week of Black Friday. Maybe I could go get something on sale. And they had this crazy good sale on the P1S, which is like a way more advanced printer than my my Prusso is or was. Uh, and I was like, okay, that's cool. And then they did see they had just released the P2S, which like it wasn't on sale at all. It wasn't even on a Black Friday sale because it was so new. But it was like, it seemed like it had just enough upgrades that I was like, in theory, if I do the same thing and I have this printer for like six or seven years, maybe spending a little extra money to get the higher end one would actually kind of be worth it. So actually, I I ordered it and a bunch of filament, and then I canceled the order, and then the next day I ordered it again.

SPEAKER_03 48:30

Dude, did you really? I did not know the canceling of the that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 48:34

Yeah, I got too nervous, so then I was like, No, and then I was like, No, I really want it, and so I got it. And uh it is the best. And I I lost my mind with it, and then very quickly, right afterwards, you were like, Yep, I have one now too.

SPEAKER_02 48:49

Yep. I was like, Yeah, you know, I can't let Tom just have this. I gotta get, I gotta get it too, you know. I mean, but dude, yeah. Oh, well, and that's like the thing is like bamboo, they I don't know, man. It just it prints so well, prints so easily. And that's one thing that you were saying is you're like, dude, just keep your A1 mini around, yeah. And then just like, you know. But then my um then my dad came over and was like, uh, the prints that you've shown me are uh they're actually really cool. And I'm very interested in like printing stuff for my car now. And I'm like, all right, man, here's a printer.

SPEAKER_00 49:28

Oh, cool. That's cool. Um that's actually I mean, I at one point I had prior to the the bamboo, I think I think I had six 3D printers. Uh, but most of them were like really, really inexpensive, like mono price printers from like 2017. So they're like $160, and you know, like you were you're required to tinker with them to get them to work. Um a lot of actually all of them except for I have my very first 3D printer, which is worth nothing now except sentimental value, so I'm not gonna get rid of that. And then I do still have my Prusha Mini. Um, but all the other ones I did donate at some point in time. So the mini was the only working one I'd had, and I was just like, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole again. So I have the P2S, I got the AMS with it, the combo that which you also got, and then I did get a second AMS, so now I have like two dude.

SPEAKER_02 50:19

I'm dude, I'm jealous, honestly. And I'm like, I I need I probably need to get that. I probably need to do that.

SPEAKER_00 50:25

Well, that's knowing you the way I know you, that's why I was like, I didn't realize you got rid of your A1, and so now I was like, okay, is that gonna be a second P2S? Is that gonna be an H2C? Is that gonna be Yeah, no? Oh man. But um the thing with the bamboo, like so I I I don't want to say anything negative about Prucias because I actually really like their printers. I like what they did for 3D printing, do for 3D printing. Um, and and part of it is the tinkering. Like when I bought my Prucia, it's like it comes with a bag of gummy bears, it comes with instructions. You spend an afternoon or a day putting the thing together, and there's like parts in the instruction manual, they're like, now pause and eat a gummy bear. And you're like, okay. Um it's fun. Like, and and that's cool, like it's a cool project, but sometimes you just want to like print stuff. And the bamboo, I got mine, and I was planning to make a video for my second channel, so I was like, I'll film this. And I, you know, I I set up some cameras, I filmed the thing. From the time I opened the box to the time I was like done with my first print was two hours, and that would have been way less. It was two hours because I was filming it, so I had to keep moving cameras and stopping stuff and paying attention to microphones. Uh, if I wasn't filming it, the printer had to do, I think I do like 25 to 30 minutes of calibration, which you just you just let it sit there and do its thing. And if so, if you take away that time, the amount of time I was actually like tinkering with the printer and plugging stuff in or whatever was literally like I think it was 11 minutes.

SPEAKER_03 52:00

So it's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 52:02

That's the amount of time from opening it up to having it totally set up, and then it has to do its calibration and then it's printing. So you could say within 30 to 45 minutes you could have the printer printing, but most of that time is the printer just doing its like updates and calibration.

SPEAKER_02 52:21

I will say yeah, I actually I did time it roughly, and it was like an hour and five minutes for me, and I like did I was doing some other stuff too, you know, so I wasn't like perfect with the timing. And I printed something like an hour and five minutes, like once I unboxed it. Like that is that's pretty wild. I feel like that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 52:44

It is crazy, and so I so I filmed it and I ended up making a video about it, and I uploaded it to my second channel because I was like, yeah, that makes sense. I originally had a bunch of 3D printing videos on my channel, they're still there from like 2017, and it but I haven't made a 3D printing video in ages, and so I was like, I'll put this on the second channel, but I was like, I actually kind of really like this video, like there was just something about there's a thing when I make a video for my second channel that like and I've learned I'm really kind of trying to learn a lesson from this, is I have like less pressure. Yeah, not that there's there should be any pressure on my main channel, but it's like I don't care if nobody watches this, I just want to make the video, is like the vibe.

SPEAKER_02 53:23

And so that's true.

SPEAKER_00 53:24

Yeah, I kind of liked the video because it just it was very casual, it was very fun. Um, I don't know, it was just a it is a good video. And I put it on the second channel, and the only people who were commenting on it were people from it was like Gil and a couple other people who are also on the main channel. So I was like, okay, there's overlap, it's it's it's not like there's a different audience. And so I was like, you know what? And at the time, maybe I get maybe next time I do an episode, I'll talk about why I thought I had killed my YouTube channel. At the time, it was in the toilet, so I was like, you know what, who cares? Like, I'm just gonna put this 3D printing video over there instead. Uh and it went, it was the best performing video I've had in like a couple of years, which blew my mind. Um, and so I was like, dang, and it and there was like kind of overlap between I don't, I can't really figure it out. And so I was like, okay, well, I would like, I would like to make, I was gonna make more 3D printing videos for the second channel. It's like I guess I could do them here. So I was like, I don't I don't have a strategy for that because I only want to do it as long as I'm having fun with it. I never wanted to be like, I have to do another stupid 3D printing video, and like, yeah, but right now, like the bamboo helped me rediscover the hobby, and so it's been fun to explore that. And um, I want to just keep doing that as long as it's fun. So I've been trying to, for the most part, like alternate like here's a audio video production video, here's a 3D printing video, and kind of going back and forth, which I don't know. I'm sure every YouTube strategy person in the world would be like separate channel, separate audience, but like I don't want to, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 55:01

Yeah, dude. Well, and I like I said, I I told you this like initially, is it's just like I feel like there is an overlap there, especially based off of like I mean the fact that I'm so interested in it and I'm a nave, like I'm a navy guy, you know. Like it's and that's like the thing is I feel like it there's just a lot there like there's just so much you can do with a 3D printer in the audio and video world, like exclusively, like even just organizational stuff. Oh my god, like the gridfinity stuff, man. Come on, like get out of here, you know. That is that is awesome. Yeah, but like I mean, that's the thing is I feel like no matter what industry you're probably in, you could benefit from 3D printing something, you know?

SPEAKER_00 55:45

Like yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:47

So yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 55:48

That's what that's what's crazy from how 3D printing was when I was initially into it, like actually 10 years ago this year, 2016, is when I got my first 3D printer. Um it was really niche and it was very cool, but it was like it was probably like how computers were in like the 80s, early 90s, where it's like computers are cool, but if you want to do something involving a computer, you have to go find like a computer person to like do it. Yeah, and you had to like find a 3D printing person, and now it's like no, like literally just get a bamboo and you'll be printing in no time. Um, and I did find out, I think I think we talked about this, but um bamboo was founded by some former engineers from DJI, and I was like, as soon as I realized that, it kind of clicked because uh the way that everything is is kind of like the Apple ecosystem, but like in some ways smoother. Uh, it really made sense to me where I was like, oh, I can see the DJI DNA in bamboo in a good way. Um, yeah, and it's it's just been super cool. And and speaking of things, uh, this is something I'm really excited about, and I I I can take ideation credit for, but not full credit. A complaint that I have had. So I'm holding here is my shore SM7B on my Elgato boom arm. I think for at least four years, if not more, I've been complaining about every mic arm is 99% good, but it's they always mess up on the the mount because it's always a friction mount and you can never like get it positioned right, and it's always like it's never holds quite firm or whatever. And so I've had the thought if I have a 3D printer, I can try to figure out. I I've I've literally like I've tried to figure out a design for the past couple of years that would be a solution to this problem, and like my smooth brain just can't quite grasp it, but it's it's like in there, and I have a friend who uh yeah, even maybe like two years ago, he got a bamboo printer and got into 3D printing. Uh, Mr. Lu Luis, Mr. Camera Junkie, um for the YouTube channel. Yeah, he he's been doing all kinds of stuff. He's he does like camera rigs. I think he has a second, I can't actually can't remember if it's a second channel or what, but it's called Rig Junkie, and it's like custom 3D printed rigs for different things. And so he was like, Hey man, like uh do you have any like 3D printing stuff, like pain points that I could like he's like, I would I'm gonna do a video like where I'm solving pain points for different people or whatever. And I was like, Oh my god, here it is. The the freaking mic thing. I told him I love it. I should I should read you the thing that I sent him when he was like, Yeah, what do you need? Um, and I was like almost frustrated because I've been so annoyed by this problem for so long. And I said, he said, Can you tell me briefly what it is that you want this mic arm to do? And I said, basically, no ball or friction bounce, none, teeth, lots of them, like a shark. Something that lets you essentially pan and tilt the head. Bonus points, if there's a spring-loaded button or something, you can press with one hand to release everything while positioning it with the other hand, and then let go of the button, and it all snaps back into place. Within two days, he had a working prototype that he had designed and printed. What? And it's it's I I need to make a video on it. I think he's gonna make a video on it. Um it's amazing. Like, I think he still wants to refine some stuff, and there's probably some areas that can be improved. And he like, you know, he he did the thing you did where he bought the stuff where you can like solder in like heat seek, not heat sink, but oh, the metal parts or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, so he did that. He he has like internal springs, so it like literally you can do it's everything that I asked, and it's awesome. Um dude, that is amazing, honestly. Like, yes, so is it like a it's like a quick release essentially, like, but also with the the friction or the he did it in a way that's like so much more elegant than I I had planned to do it, um, which is like yeah, so there's there's like a button and you can push the button and then you can rotate up or down, which would be like the equivalent of like tilting. Okay, yeah, yeah. So with one hand you push in a button and then you rotate this, you let it go, but it has just teeth. So the teeth come loose, the teeth go tight, and then once they're in there, it's not going to move. Um, and then there's another thing which is pretty ingenious. It involves like it's more of like a pull twist. So instead of holding a button to like rotate it, you kind of can just like pull it and twist it, and then like it locks back in. Um it's I'm I'm not explaining it. I know he wants to refine the design a little bit, and currently it's something that can just be put on any mic arm, which is the other thing I'm not sure about in terms of design because his design, like literally, I saw it and I was like, dude, this is perfect. Like, no notes. It just like I guess it needs to be made out of metal. He's used like SM7Bs and stuff with it, and it's been fine, but maybe ABS would be good, obviously, metal would be better. Um but he uh I forgot what I was oh that was a thing because it it goes on this, so the design is perfect, but there's still when you attach it to an arm, there's still like if you put too much weight going counterclockwise, then it can it can just untight itself. And so that's where if it were a fully like integrated thing, like the way that the you know the Elgato head mount or the road one or whatever is part of it, if you could do that, then it would just be like the most sturdy thing ever. But this right here is absolutely amazing. So, like um, I'm excited to see. He just actually sent me some print files today to print to test it out. So I want to try that, but obviously there's some refining, and then you know, he sent me links to all the little like springs and stuff that you need to make it on yourself on your own. But yeah, so anyway, all that to say, definitely overlap because yeah, he also did an app which is very cool, and I need to try it next time I do a stream, uh, stream with eCamm. Is it's a it's an eCamm plug-in that lets you natively use anamorphic lenses. And what? Okay, yeah. I I tinkered with that OBS a while ago because you can kind of make it work in OBS, sort of like through a loophole. Uh, but this is just like plug-in e cam, you have your anamorphic lens, it de-squeezes it, now you stream it anamorphic, and I was like, oh dang, that's sweet. Especially as there are anamorphic lenses with autofocus coming out. I'm kind of like, this is pretty cool. Anyway, uh this is now my Mr. Camera Junkie uh shout-out session, I guess. Yeah, shout-out, Mr. Camera Junkie, it was just crazy. That's the thing with like with 3D printing. I have had this idea in my head for at least four years, probably more. And and I and I have talked to people, I've talked to people in manufacturing, I've talked to people with product design backgrounds, all the stuff, and we haven't quite been able to crack the code, and he did it in two days.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:00

Dude, that is that is wild. Like, I feel like that is just a different like kind of mind where they can just like build something that you know that you obviously need or can describe. But dude, that's like that's the thing is like I I feel like I'm pretty limited with my capabilities. I'm so limited. As far as you know, like I'm like, I can make something a little bit cooler, I I I think for me, you know, but like but for anyone else, it's probably not cool, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:27

It's probably but even but the cool thing with the bamboo stuff is I'm trying to quietly take out a thing here, is um you can even do simple stuff like have you seen the dude?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:38

What dude what hold on, hold on, what is happening right now?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:46

Let's go.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:48

Dude, I swear, like we this is not plain at all. This is insane, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:54

It's insane, but not surprising. So, yeah, you can see we have bins with different colored little rims on them. Yo, uh shocking, mine is blue. But what I'm holding up if you're listening to the audio of this is it's a filter bin, which I use for like lens caps and stuff that's part of the gridfinity organizer system. But the cool part is the top of it, it kind of has like a rim that is a different color, which is actually helpful. Like in terms of seeing, but it's also a cool design. Um, yeah, but you can do stuff like that so easy in Bamboo Studio because they have like the option to like you can do layer painting and you can bring in a a single color model and then add color to it and to different parts of it just in the slicer super easily, which is like something that used to be impossible to do.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:40

Yeah. Well, and this is one thing I actually wanted to show you anyway. Is I actually went with the um the marble finish. Oh I don't know if you can see it, but like I actually got the marble thing and it is actually it's awesome, dude. It looks great. That looks like well, actually, I know that I have something around here. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:02

Yeah, that's the other thing with bamboo is the the different well, I mean, I guess with 3D printing in general, you get all kinds of different types of filament, but I've been really pleasantly surprised with the bamboo filaments. Like they're not crazy expensive and they seem super high quality, and there's a lot of variety. The only downside is they go out of stock a lot.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:19

Oh yeah, for sure. Like I I feel like it's only a matter of time until it's probably they're probably available on Amazon. But I kind of I kind of just like the ego of their their site, you know? Yeah, yeah. Dude, it it's like it I mean it feels good and everything, and it like it actually does kind of have like a little texture to it. I like it. I love it, dude. It I it's honestly one of my favorite finishes. But I f I actually really like the the red one that they have. It's like a more I wouldn't even say it's like well it's it's like a reddy orange, but then it does have like darker darker speckles in it, and it's it looks great, dude. I feel like it It's very cool. Yeah. So I'm gonna get that next for sure.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:04

Yeah, I have become a little bit addicted to buying filaments and stuff. And uh I don't know if you know about this, but bamboo kind of like gamified. I haven't really played with this, but when you you have your account, which by the way, you don't have to create an account if you want to use the printer offline with other stuff, you can. You should know that's like that's a criticism people have with bamboo, is like, oh, but it's too locked in. I'm like, you can you don't need an account, you can use it offline with others, but it's like why? Like at that point, get a prusha. Like, why are you you're you're getting the bamboo, like use it to its full potential. Um, but you you kind of like there, they have like a gamification like points system, and you can level up uh by all kinds of stuff by uploading designs, by rating designs, leaving reviews on designs that you've printed and all that kind of thing by being an active participant. You can redeem that stuff for like if you get enough of it, you get points. You can actually redeem it in their in their store. So it's not on Amazon, but it's in their store. What? That's actually wild. It's kind of cool. I don't know, I don't know like what the conversion is, but there are people who are literally, I've seen posts online where they're like, I did it, and they order like what are the baller printers for free because they got like enough points.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:18

What? Yeah, that is insane. A lot of people do it wild.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:22

A lot of people do it for filaments. So I I imagine it's much more easier to get like a free roll of filament. I would assume so. Some some people who are super active in designs, and then you know, if you upload a design and you have lots of photos and lots of people like it, and your design gets lots of ratings, I think then you get more points and stuff. Um, which is like it's kind of it's like a weird way of it's not monetizing it, but it's like that's pretty sweet. I mean it's yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:50

It's it's I it's a good oh sorry, dude. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:55

No, it's fine. I was just saying it makes 3D printing fun and it makes it like oh yeah. I I can see like as a 40-year-old I'm into it, but I can also see if I were like 12, I would be. Oh, dude, I'd yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:06

If I was younger, I'd be so into it, dude. I'd be, yeah, I'd be I would I would probably start a 3D printing channel for sure if I was like younger and didn't already start an audio one and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:19

Hey, look, but you did, you did it though.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:23

I thought of even my channel banner is like audio video production, 3D printing, but like Yeah, I don't know. It just it's just whatever it's the enthusiasm project, right? Like underneath it all, it's whatever you're into.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:36

So well, and that's like the nice thing about the and this is what the discussion that we had like a long, long time ago, um, was like the having your name on the channel versus having like a channel name. Yeah, because like I'm like I feel like I'm just stuck, you know, essentially. I mean, I could always just change my name if I wanted to to my name if I wanted to. Yeah, you can always do whatever you want. Yeah, I mean, but like I do feel like a certain amount of like I'm I'm like a little bit stuck in this realm, but it's a realm that I do like, and I do like I don't feel like I don't feel bad about that at all, but I do love the fact that you're you're Tom Buck and you can literally you could do whatever you wanted, essentially.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:20

I can do whatever the buck I want.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:21

Yeah, exactly. That's what I yeah, that's what I said.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:25

I uh I do just want to point out I just in case someone was watching, especially because I talked about gear, there was a little bit of stuttering there. My my reference monitor died, and I changed the battery on it, and so the signal went out and the signal went in, and so as the YOLO box was like redoing HDMI out, there was a little bit of video stutter. That's what it was. That was my fault, just disclaimer there. If you're like if you're an eagle-eyed, like, hey, I see a problem. Uh yeah, but yeah, it's I I need to do a whole episode talking about this because I'm not really sure what to do, but like I did the 3D printing videos, and I I again the thing about them right now is like I want to keep making them, and it's very organic, and like I'm just a person that bought a printer, it's very like simple. It's fun, man. Yeah, that's fun, and I think I think there's something people connect with, but also like they're those videos. I I think I've done like six or seven 3D printing videos right now, and those videos by themselves have brought in like 1,500 plus subscribers, which is like hella, like that's a lot. That's yeah, for sure. Yeah, because like normally if I release a an audio video video and it performs average, I kind of hate talking about stuff this way, but like in a normal video, after it's been out a week, and I didn't even start looking at this until I started doing the 3D printing stuff. Those videos will bring in maybe like 15 to 20 new people, which is great, fantastic. In a week of like some of the 3D printing videos I've done, which like are significantly more popular, they'll bring in like 600 people, 500 people, and I'm like, uh, so that's cool. That's not to me, that's not a reason to chase it, because it's still like if I don't want to make the videos, it doesn't matter because then it's gonna be terrible. But yeah, it's like, oh, these people seem to actually like what I'm doing, and they're signing up for more, and I want to make more, so like I guess I should just make more and not really think about it. Like that's fair.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:28

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:33

I know, dude. And that's like that's what I I feel like I just I would love to like give you advice, but I'm like there isn't. I just don't yeah, no, I I think that like I think what you're doing is great, and like honestly, like it's just sometimes you just gotta follow like what you like, as long as you like it and something that you're interested in, yeah. I like I think go for it for sure. But I like I I do think that that line does become crossed when you like you said earlier, like when you're just starting to be like, I don't really want to make that video anymore, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:11

So yeah, that's what happened early on because I was like, I was just making videos about anything when I started the channel, and I started making 3D printing videos, and I just noticed I was like, these videos like get way more views than my other videos do. And so I was like, okay, cool. But then it was like, I don't know how many videos I made, eight or nine 3D printing videos, and I was like, that's everything I know about 3D printing, so I have nothing else. And it's like, especially early on when the channel's brand new, I think it it would have made sense to go like obviously I'm a 3D printing channel, but like I I would have it would have from video 10, it would have been forced because it would have been like, okay, I guess I have to get a new printer and review it. And it's like, I don't want 15 printers, I don't want to like get into the nitty-gritty of like this weird line of code that causes the thing. Like, I just wasn't, and especially almost 10 years ago, like the technology was way more primitive. So now it's like I like making 3D printing videos just because I like I'm excited. I just want to, I literally just want to go like, hey, look at this. And like I need someone to I need someone to show. Yeah. And it's like you on Marco or like print videos on YouTube. And but I think that that's cool. So as long as that's the motivation, I want to keep doing it, and as soon as that's not there, then I'll stop doing it. And that's just and I don't know how long I don't know. Hopefully it keeps going because I'm having fun, but you never know. And um the way though 3D printing has changed is like is pretty pretty nuts. And so I feel like there's more there than there was in 2017 when I started. Definitely, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:54

And I and I do feel like you're hitting it at a very good time where it's like bamboo kind of just they like their software has just gotten better and better. Yeah, printing has gotten easier and easier, and so you're you're just kind of like a no no offense. You're just kind of like a dude that's just like printing, and that's cool. And like, and people like that, you know, and so it's like I can I can relate to that way more than I can relate to someone who's tried literally every printer the last 10 years, you know. Like I'm like, I I won't I won't see eye to eye with that guy. Well, like like I would I would like to hear it before I bought it, you know, sure. I'd like to hear his opinion. However, like I just If on a daily basis or like even just a video basis, like I I feel like I would much rather watch uh just a guy rather than like pro or something, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:48

And I I think like that's something I'm keeping in mind. Uh because I think, and this is I this is so not fair, but um Bamboo did reach out to me and they were ultra nice. And I know it's because they see videos on my channel and the channel has a decent subscriber number under it, so like, hey, what up? Um and then and that's cool. They were like they were super cool, like super respect. I actually like like the company even more getting to know a couple of the people behind it. But of course, they're like, hey, if you want to try out like one of our flagship printers or whatever, and I was like, I I do, like out of curiosity, but like I don't also like I don't even know how to use my printer all the way yet. I uh I yeah I can't get into it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:29

I I get that, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:30

Yeah, like maybe down the line if I like max out my printer or if it becomes something where people are like, we're curious about this printer, and you're able if you're able to test it for us, could you try it and like see what you think then but I I like the thing of like I'm just a guy that bought a printer and that's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:49

Like there's yeah, dude, like for sure. Well and no, go ahead, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:55

Oh, I was gonna say, well, I was gonna say with your you kind of did a mini A7 V review a little bit ago, like in this podcast episode, and you talk you're somebody who has tried tons of cameras over the past years, but the way you talk about A75 was mostly about the articulating screen, and then like some of the photo photo uh photo performance, and then maybe why you don't necessarily need to upgrade it for video. That little like four-minute review to me was like way more genuine, helpful, and honestly, like even a better selling point than some of the like legit polished reviews I watched about the camera. And that and it was just like a guy that bought the camera.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:40

Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah. Well, and that's that's actually one thing that I'm literally, I'm just like, I'm kind of like bummed about that at the same time because I'm like, wait, I'm like, what does that mean for me? You know, like talking about audio stuff, I'm like, huh, I guess I don't know, you know, like I well, and then I I started thinking about it and I was like, I guess that it's kind of where you're at, you know, like and that's and that's a big part of it, is like, sure, if I, you know, got a bit more in depth with like printing and like wanted to learn certain things that I could do, I would need to go to, you know, the guy that has reviewed every printer or whatever that knows a bit more about that. But also it's it's cool just to like see that you're excited, yeah, and that I'm excited because I also got the print, you know, so it's like it's just very like I feel like it's very genuine, but I was like, yeah, dude, I was kinda I was kind of like hating what I do for just a second when I when I said that sentence, I was like, oh man, dude. I was like, how?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:46

I think the difference is I I think it has to do with your like the person's motivation. So like right now I'm it's basically like I'm starting over with 3D printing. So like getting this new printer, starting with the basics is where I'm at. So that's very accessible to a lot of people. And I I and so like coming with cameras, for example, I know like even Gerald and Dunn has posted videos where he's like, I don't want to do any more of certain types of tests or whatever, because it's just like I'm not interested in it. And I think that's important because it's easy to feel like okay, you have to do this very in-depth head, then you have to do this in depth, then you have to do this comparison. For a while when I was doing mic reviews, I was feeling like, okay, here's the 38 other microphones I have to compare it to, and I have to switch them out and I have to do the thing, and it's like it almost felt overwhelming versus what you're actually interested in. So if you're interested, which I know you are, because you've sent me Marcos and things at text messages where you're like doing pretty in-depth, nuanced audio tests that nobody else will ever see or hear. Um That's fair. Yeah. So if that's the thing that you're gonna be doing anyway, and that's just who you are, and which it that is how it comes across on your channel, then I think I think it's a good thing to do. If you're doing it because you're like, well, that's what you have to do, you have to do the in-depth, crazy test, and it's like a thing you don't want to do and it's driving you crazy, then I think that also comes across.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:13

So it's it's that is fair, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:16

And that's different for everybody. Like I I like going in-depth with things and I like explaining stuff to people, but I I have found that I kind of stay away from that in videos because for me, I have found that it invites people to it invites the um actually crowd, and I don't particularly like that crowd. And like if I just say like, I bought a printer, it's awesome, check this out, here's my experience with it. It's kind of hard to like like what I what I get are a lot of other people who are excited about their printers or they want to buy a 3D printer, and it's like we're all like, dude, isn't it cool? It's great, it's great. If I get into a thing where I'm like, here's the like in-depth look at why Bamboo Studio compared to Prussia Slicer, whatever, there's just gonna be a bunch of people in the audience or in the comments going, like, well, actually, what you didn't consider was blah blah blah, and I'm like, and I I just don't I just don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:16

See, yeah, no, I get that. I definitely get that. And like, and that is one thing that is very interesting that I do find myself doing that I'm actually trying to not do as much is go into the comments and be the actually person. Yeah, I I I don't like that guy, but I'm but I am that guy. So um no, like it's it's actually so I will find myself, you know, talking about like whatever, like a microphone spec or something like that. Not a spec on a microphone, but a microphone specification. But um, or just something, you know, along those lines. And I will find that I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, so I've talked about the one thing that took me literally five seconds to talk about, but then I'm literally talking for 35 seconds, just cleaning up the um actually people. Right, right, yes. You know, just being like, Well, I understand that this doesn't apply to this and this or this, you know, like, but in this case, blah blah blah, you know, like and that's and I hate that, dude. Like I do hate that. And so and I don't know, man. Yeah, I get you, and that's that's why I do try to st I I stay clear I steer clear of like specifications and stuff in microphone videos now because I felt like that though like those were the people that always just you know, and I was like, okay, you know, like I will test a microphone in a lot of different goofy ways, and I will just be like, you know, it's goofy and it's funny, you know, or whatever. And that's that, you know. But yeah, I I try to not specify too many things, I feel like, just because I I don't like want to get into the this this guy, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:06

But yeah, no, my the first uh the bamboo unboxing video is pretty funny. I I know I told you this, but um I filmed the unboxing part and then used the printer for a week and I filmed the conclusion after I had like more experience with it. And my plan was then to also film an intro. I was gonna come in here, sit down, I was gonna do the whole, I was gonna give a lot of context and explain like this was my first 3D printer. This is the prusa I've had, this is what I've been looking for, this is that, to like give a lot of context, explain that I'm not brand new to 3D printing, and and I just like I just I just like didn't want to film that part. Like, I don't know why. Yeah, I filmed I filmed the conclusion and I was like, I'm just like kind of tired and I just don't want to film it. And I and the video, the rest of the video was all edited, and I just needed to add the intro. And I was like, it kind of works without the intro, it's a little abrupt because it it it starts with me just going, like, well, here it is. Like, I have the box, and you're like, What are you talking about? But I was I guess I kind of learned something from that because I was like, okay, throughout the video, I can explain, like, oh, this is so different from my printer I've had for a while. So there's a little bit of context that's just included naturally, and then the video just like gets into it. And I kind of think that's why like more people watched it because it just it just went into the thing the video was about. Like, it's very old YouTube, and and I've been trying to keep that in mind more often. Um, to the point where actually I worked on a video last week where I went on a whole trip to San Jose and I did stuff with the sharks. I took photos of my seven at four because I don't have an A75. Um boo. And I came back and like I showed Heather the video I made, and she's like, This video is great, but you actually need to add an intro. Like, you need some context. And I was like, okay, I like took it too far. But it was a cool lesson to learn in terms of just like wow. The the the reason I was gonna do that intro was not because I wanted to share the intro, which for the San Jose video, it was like, oh, there's actually kind of a cool story to tell here that I want to share. For that, it was literally going to be like, let me address all of the haters and then we can get into the video. And it's like I just cut that out and just got into the video. And that's yeah, that's great. Like the video was more fun. I I well, I didn't make the other part, but I had way more fun in all the parts that are on the video. People in the comments are so excited that now when somebody does show up and they're like, Are you mean to tell me you actually have printing experience? You didn't even take off this proper bed screw, foam, at the whatever. They just look like a crazy person.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:42

Oh, dude, yeah, for real.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:44

Like everyone's having a good time here, and you show up and you're just like you are you're just being kind of a jerk, dude. Yeah, like it's literally like it it doesn't go well. And so I'm like, I I don't know what it is. Creatively, I think there's a lesson there that I've been trying to like learn about a little bit, which is nice because the lesson I think is just get into the topic and don't spend time trying to please the people that don't even like what you're doing in the first place.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:14

Yep. Well, and that's like, yeah, no, I I definitely get that. And I think it was you or Doc Rock. I can't remember who you're talking about. We're basically twins.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:21

So yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:22

Yeah, that that makes sense, yeah. Um, but yeah, you essentially said that. And it was just like that was Doc for sure. That was Doc Rock. Yeah, no, he he was definitely, yeah, he was like, don't worry about like, you know, like the the haters or the people that are going to or that could comment, don't worry about the coulds, but just like just do it, dude. Like, just like literally, just make the video and don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:46

And I'm like, okay, you know, he'd gotten me on that in the past too, because I used to disclaim stuff when something was sent for free. I I still do, like, I have to disclose it, be like, hey, Rhodes sent this microphone for free. I'm not under any obligation. You don't have to say that, but I used to then go on and on and be like, but no, I like, and he's like, Man, why are you spending all this time for people who don't like you? We're here and we just want to get into the video. Yeah. Like, yeah, you're right. You are right.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:10

Yeah, no, I think that he actually said something very it was uh when we were in Vegas at NAB and uh he drove me to the the road thing. Um, and it was yeah, it was a very similar situation actually, because I was talking about like a comment or something. I think I was like heated about you know comment or whatever. And he was like, dude, like who cares? Like just like who like who cares, man? And I'm like, that's fair, man. You know, I get I get that. You know, yeah, that's fair. It's a fair point.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:41

Yeah. Um, so I don't know. I feel like there's something there, it's probably points worth dissecting, but uh for now, our uh we are 90 minutes in, and um honestly I'm just getting really hot in this room.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:53

So I dude, me too, actually. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:57

I think it's it is the winter time, so our like AC doesn't turn on, and now my like my uh I don't know what it is, but humanness is just it's yeah, it is like when you're uh you know when you're in high school and you stay up all night like playing video games for a sleepover and just that like funk that exists in the space afterwards. I think I'm edging up on that. So that being said, uh I very much appreciate you being here for uh the podcast and you know helping me. I needed this podcast episode to finish a video, but we didn't have to do the actual podcast episode. We could have talked for 10 minutes and then that would have been done. I thought it'd be really fun to do a podcast episode since we have it up, so I really appreciate you being here and doing that and taking time.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:43

Of course, man.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:43

Any time for your busy life. So uh with that being said, is there anywhere anything you'd like to share? You want people to go to check out YouTube or whatever? No, I'm good. You got a MySpace page you want to pip out or anything along?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:55

Oh, dude. I I honestly like I really am bummed that MySpace pages aren't up still. Me too. Like me too. Because I would like, I would for real love to just like go back and be like, what song was I into at that point in time? Because like that was the best part, is like just getting like you were on like online at one in the morning, and then you just go to a page and just so it just starts blasting death metal, and you're like, Oh, sorry, parents, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:19

I I remember putt putting in a new, you know, you change your profile song, and you're like you sit there and you're like, Yeah, people are gonna get this. Is this how this is how I feel right now?

SPEAKER_02 1:28:29

Yeah, dude. Yeah, like after a breakup, you know, like you're like, oh yeah, someone I got the perfect song for the perfect Aquabat song for this situation.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:40

So, yeah, well, I appreciate it very much. Um definitely check out Audio Hotline on YouTube, even if you're not necessarily an audio person, production quality is great, personality is great, and that's kind of the thing. Like that just click on any video, and whatever Bronx is talking about is gonna be fun and interesting. And then you might also learn something along the way. And if you are into audio and stuff, then all the better because you're gonna be like super psyched about what you got right there. And I look forward to your your 3D printing video, your 3D printing channel in the future.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:09

Oh, yeah, yeah, no problem. Yeah, I got it, I got it. 3D printing channel. I actually am going to make a 3D printing video. Like I told you I would, and so I'm going to. So it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:20

Double dog dare you. That means you're not gonna do it. Um with that being said, I appreciate you listening, appreciate you being here. If you want to share anything, obviously you can uh you can either reply directly to the fan mail link that's on the Buzz Sprout audio only pages, or you can leave a comment on YouTube, or of course you can always reach out to Tom at enthusiasmproject.com. And appreciate you being here. It's been nice. It's fun to do, it's fun to do episodes of podcasts, believe it or not, it can just be a fun thing to do. So hope you have a safe, happy, healthy, fun rest of your day, and I'll see you next time.