In today's episode, we're learning how Robert stopped drinking alcohol without AA or willpower. He shares his story in this podcast! There is definitely some stop drinking motivation in this podcast!
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We discuss:
What Robert's life was like before the Soberclear program
What Robert's drinking was like
What Robert had tried to do in the past before the Soberclear program
Why Robert decided to join Soberclear
How was Soberclear different to other programs?
What Robert's life looks like now (business, family life, health, spirituality)
Advice Robert would give to others
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In today's episode, we're learning how Robert stopped drinking alcohol without AA or willpower. He shares his story in this podcast! There is definitely some stop drinking motivation in this podcast!
Want results like Robert? Make sure to click to book a Roadmap call by clicking the link below!
Book a call here: https://soberclear.com/bookcall-ytd
We can see if the program makes sense for you.
We discuss:
What Robert's life was like before the Soberclear program
What Robert's drinking was like
What Robert had tried to do in the past before the Soberclear program
Why Robert decided to join Soberclear
How was Soberclear different to other programs?
What Robert's life looks like now (business, family life, health, spirituality)
Advice Robert would give to others
🥃👀🧨 Get My Free Video Training: “The Strangest Secret To Controlling Alcohol - Without AA, Willpower Or Rehab”: https://www.soberclear.com/2022-control-opt-in
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Welcome to the Stop Drinking podcast, where we help you make stopping drinking a simple, logical and easy decision. We help you with tips, tools and strategies to start living your best life when alcohol free. If you want to learn more about stop drinking coaching, then head over to wwwsoberclearcom. Meet Robert. Robert had been drinking daily for over 30 years. At Robert's peak, he was drinking up to two-fifths of vodka a day, which is 1.5 litres. Health issues, lack of energy, feeling like shit, you name it. After taking some time off work to hike the Appalachian Trail, robert knew it was time to change. He'd already tried AA but couldn't buy into the philosophy. He tried stopping alone but always felt like he was missing out on something. He knew he had to change, but something would always draw him back to the drink. But then, five months ago, robert had a breakthrough. Robert and I got started working together in the sober clear program. He reports that the program has helped him fill in all the missing pieces in the puzzle and he says not drinking has become a walk in the park. How is that possible? Well, today Robert is going to share his incredible story and experience to help you on your journey, if you're ready to change your relationship with alcohol and you want to hear a story from a real person with real experiences. Make sure to stay tuned and watch this entire video. You do not want to miss this one. Okay, welcome back to the channel.
Speaker 1:We've got Robert joining us today. So Robert is joining us from Cleveland, ohio. He's had a sick transformation over the past few months and he has kindly agreed to come on today to share inspiration, to share his story, to really show you all that it's possible for you as well. So you know, really grateful that you've said yes to this, robert. I mean, most people that are in the program say no, but you said yes. So you know it takes a lot of bravery to put your face out there and share your story, but it's definitely going to impact a lot of people. So really appreciate that. And the first question is, robert, is how long have you not drank for now?
Speaker 2:I'm not exactly sure. I think it's been about five months or so, I'm not counting. I'm just not drinking.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, you did start the program five months ago, but just quickly before we go a bit deeper. But why do you say you're not counting?
Speaker 2:I don't see any point in that. If you're not drinking any longer, why count the days? It just reminds you that you're not drinking. Just go on with life. That's how I see it.
Speaker 1:Love it. Well, let's start at the beginning. So yeah, so just you know. Do you want to talk about? You know your history of drinking, where it started, and yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, I grew up during my high school years in the Caribbean where basically you could all drink, at any age, it didn't matter. So we would get off of school and go to the pizza place and just drink and go out and party and drink in high school and I wouldn't consider myself a problem drinker at that time. But I started drinking heavily. Then I moved back to the States at 17. Couldn't drink any longer. It was a big culture shock and you know. But of course you drink as a teenager and as an early adult person and I partied just like everybody else. But I didn't really start drinking heavily until probably around 25 or so, maybe 24, 25. Then it became a daily thing. You know, I'll tell you. Have you heard of Charles Bukowski?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I read one of his books once and he's a big drinker and he just made it sound so freaking cool and fun. And I just kind of read all of his books and I was like, yeah, I'm going to be a drunk just like Charles Bukowski because he's a genius. You know, I could be a drunk genius. There you go. And that's really when it started. I just kept drinking every single day. Another thing is I would.
Speaker 2:I lived in Chile for a while. They drink a lot of red wine there, so I, just when I came back, I just started drinking at least a bottle of wine every night, every single night. And that's how I did it. And I did that up until I don't know, my mid 40s, maybe early 40s. Then I switched to hard liquor, then I started drinking, you know, whiskey and scotch and tequila. Scotch is my favorite. I love the scotch and I still love it. It's great, but it's just not necessary any longer. I mean, if I had a glass of scotch right here, I would savor it and I would love it, but I don't need it.
Speaker 1:So. So then it was around the early 40s. It went to the hard liquor. Then what started happening? Well, what was going on in your life?
Speaker 2:I kind of went to the hard liquor because there's less calories per per glass. I could drink the same amount. I started running, I started getting in shape so I actually lost weight when I went to the hard liquor. So it was kind of a health reason going to the hard liquor and it worked for a while until it catches up with you. And then it does catch up with you Late 40s, 50s, mid 50s it started catching up pretty good and I decided you know, I need to really stop this. I decided that a lot of times and it only worked after. I kind of got the information that you share in your program really put a big light on where I was, why I was, and it really helped me figure out the key for myself to stop drinking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it was kind of this has been going on for 30, 40 years by this point. You know 30, 40 years and it just kind of just sounds like it just been ramping, ramping, ramping, ramping, ramping until you just got to a place where it all caught up to you and you're like uh-oh.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, honestly, the whole COVID thing was a big deal to me. I was one of those anti-vaxxers. I didn't take the vaxx, I lost my job. I kind of took a year off and I started drinking really, really heavily. Then I gained a lot of weight and then I just kind of went downhill. I thought the world was going crazy and it was. And that's how I dealt with it by drinking more and I went a little crazy. But then at some point I made a decision. I'm going to get myself back together.
Speaker 2:I decided to hike the Appalachian Trail. Can't do a lot of drinking on the trail, so I kind of cut down a lot there. I still drank when I could. When I came back I felt better. I had lost a lot of weight, Lost 40 pounds just hiking, and when I came back I started drinking again. Of course, that's what you do when you have it available to you, but I knew that I needed to stop. I just knew that I needed to find a way to stop and I had tried alcoholics and onimus. I had tried. Well, that's the only thing to try. I was researching is there some sort of pill that makes you stop wanting to drink? I couldn't really find anything that had any credibility, but I knew I had to drink and I just couldn't figure out how to do it.
Speaker 1:So what would you say was going on in your life, what negatives were happening for you to really realise? I should probably do something about this.
Speaker 2:Well, I gained a lot of weight, it just felt bad. I felt like, you know, there would be episodes on really big binge drinking where, you know, my ankles, my feet would swell up and we all know what that means. You're holding water, you're living, not processing, and I just felt like my body was falling apart. I felt like if I continued down this road I wouldn't have, you know, I wouldn't be around for that much longer. So I knew I had to do it and I wanted to do it. I've been wanting to quit drinking for, you know, 20 years, you know. But and you do, you try, you come up with some idea. Okay, let me set my mind like this and quit drinking, and it works for a little while and then it comes back. But I always was trying to pick a mindset and I tried lots of different mindsets, just trying to pick a mindset that would work. And I tried lots of times to quit drinking, but that final mindset I just never got to on my own, without your program, that's all.
Speaker 1:Do you mind me asking what kind of quantity would you usually drink when you were going on the heavier side? What do we drink? Like a fifth and a half a day.
Speaker 2:I guess a fifth is what a liter. So I would drink a liter of Scotch, or two in a day when I was really I would down like two of those a day when I was really bingey On a normal. You know working, you know living my life. I would drink a pint a night. That was my normal. So I would drink a pint a day. I would go to bed every night, that was my normal. You know, my girlfriend didn't like it, I didn't like it. I would fall asleep on the couch. You know, every night, you know you come home from work you're all stressed out. You've been, your mind has been, you know, hammered all day and you're just. You just need to kind of settle down and relax and that was my medicine.
Speaker 1:So maybe this could be useful, but like when you would stop with willpower or AA meetings or whatever, it sounds like you could go. You could. You could go a period of time. It wasn't like every single day for your entire life. It sounds like you would stop.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:When you would relax or go back to drinking. Can you remember what like the conversation was like in your head?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's the same time, Same one every time. I'll go to the restaurant with my girlfriend. There's a Mexican restaurant down here, down the road, that we like to go to, and they have what's it? Negro Modelo beer. And you know, I really love a beer with Mexican food and I would. Every single time I would tell myself I can just have a beer, one beer, with this dinner, and that's fine, and I can go on with my life, and maybe next weekend I'll have another beer, invariably, as we all know that one beer is just the first step in falling back down into the trap, and that's what happened every single motherfucking time, and I'm not even joking.
Speaker 1:I got goosebumps because it's the exact same story. Yeah, I just have to.
Speaker 2:I think it's, I don't know. It must be the same with everybody, right? I mean, I don't think anybody goes well, I guess there are sometimes when you just say fuck, fuck drinking, fuck drinking, fuck drinking, fuck, drinking, fuck, drinking, fuck, drinking, fuck drinking. I'm you know being, you know abstaining or sober, I'm just going to drink and binge. Maybe sometimes that happens, but I think mostly it's the one beer, the two beers, the three beers, and within a week within a week for me at least, I'm back to full on drunk every night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, can you. This might be hard to answer, but when you stop drinking with AA willpower, how did? How did you feel about alcohol during those times when you weren't drinking?
Speaker 2:When I was drinking or wasn't drinking when I stopped when you stopped drinking.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you one more time so, so, when you stopped drinking with AA or willpower, so you, so you, you know you you'd hit a down place. You're like I'm stopping, I'll find something, I'll do something. During the time before it led up to the relapse, like, let's say, you went a month how did you feel about alcohol? During that month of not drinking? I missed my best friend.
Speaker 2:I missed him. I missed my scotch. I, I was pissed off at myself, I was pissed off at the world that I couldn't just be a normal freaking drinker. I just wanted to drink and have a beer. I wanted to go to the restaurant and have a beer. I wanted to go to a party and have some wine, and I would. I was mad. I was mad that I didn't seem to have that capability and I missed it, and and and. Because I missed it and because I wanted to be that person that could just drink normally quote unquote I, I, it was always calling to me, you know, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, man, yeah, I remember Exact same, exact same.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So what? So? So so, leading up to more of the present day, what was it that made you decide to say I want to try Leon's program, I want to try Silverglare program. Change my perception.
Speaker 2:I was visiting my brother, like the summer before that, I think. I think I joined you guys somewhere around December or November or something like that, the summer before that. Well, when did I join? I guess five minutes. What is five minutes from here?
Speaker 1:It's five minutes ago, so so it was like beginning of October.
Speaker 2:Okay, so the summer before that I was with my brother, and my brother's a big drinker too, and we were both big drinkers and we're having a good time. But we got to talking and I told him I said, look, dude, and we both want to quit. You know he wants to quit. I told him I've decided to quit drinking. I haven't decided to pull the trigger yet, but I have decided I'm going to do it. So I just knew at that point that decision was already made. Now, actually pulling the trigger on it was the next step. But I felt very secure in my knowledge that, yes, I had decided to quit drinking, I was going to do it. The how, the when or the circumstances was still to be worked out.
Speaker 2:You know, I saw your videos, I watched a few of them. Like I said before, I'm always trying to figure out, because I don't usually try to quit when I'm. You know, you got like high bottoms and low bottoms and AA you've heard of those terms. Yeah, so like high bottoms are functional people, they carry on with their lives, they're not down in the gut or homeless or anything like that. And you got the low bottoms that just you know, have lost everything and they're so low, they're like I got to quit. You know, I never really quit when I was at a low place. I've always been high, I've always been functional, always taking charge of my life for the most part, except for this little thing. But I've never been, I've never been, a guy that goes to a very low point and that says I got to quit. When I'm at a low point, that's when I dream more. I have to get to a point where I think it's possible. So I was trying to get to that point and I came home and I, you know I had that in my mind. I watched some of your videos. I really liked your videos. This world is lacking, you know. I want to say something about your program and I'll tell you what this is, why I joined.
Speaker 2:The only thing out there that I guess most people know about quitting drinking is AA. And what does AA tell you? You have no willpower, you have a disease. You're gonna be an alcoholic for the rest of your life. And, by the way, let's count every minute, second hour and day and week and month of how long you've stopped drinking To remind you that you're an alcoholic, because if you start drinking again. You're gonna start drinking again because you know it's out of your control, it's a disease. I hated that. I just like how is that helping anybody? And I think that I guess those people, the low bottoms, the guys who really get down in the gutter and they've lost everything sure, maybe that'll help them surrender to God, do that. But I think most people, high functioning alcoholics I think this is the kind of people that you attract are not haven't lost control of our lives completely. You know, they still manage their lives, they're still functional, they do what they gotta do.
Speaker 2:And when I was watching your videos I saw something in them that this guy he's like. I saw that you believed alcoholism, drinking. I just said drinking it's a choice, it's a freaking choice. It's not a freaking disease. It's a choice that everybody makes. They choose to do it or they choose not to do it. Or if they're a normal drinker, they can choose to do it in moderation and it's not a big deal. And it really hit home with me that this guy understands how I think a little bit, cause I always knew it was a choice.
Speaker 2:So I stopped at some point while I was watching your videos. I stopped drinking and then I kept you know. Like the next day I was watching your interviews again. I said you know, I don't know how much this thing costs, but I've tried everything else. Not everything else, but I've tried a whole lot of things and I actually thought that me putting down some money I didn't know how much it cost at that point Me putting down some money would help me be motivated to do that. And it did. But that's not really the main part of it. So yeah, I called you the next day, we talked and we did it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So you were in a place, the motivation was there, you knew you wanted to change, you were 100% sure on that. And then you'd resonate a bit of videos, and then it was like you'd actually already stopped by watching the videos. But then it was like no, I need to go to the next level.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean I figured there was something you know. If you're using your videos to sell your program, which you are, which is fine I knew there had to be a little bit something more and I wanted that little bit something more. I wanted to see I wasn't about to just pass it off and not know. If I had not called you, I wouldn't know, I wouldn't know what I know. Now I think probably you do cover most aspects of things in short segments in your videos, but having it put all together in a logical kind of way that you can kind of just go through it and you can kind of go back and repeat and think about it, it's basically it's a process of thinking through. It's not even a process of you telling us anything. It's a process of us hearing your viewpoints, hearing what you have to say, and then thinking about that in the context of our own lives and then seeing if what you're saying really like I wrote a review for you and it's kind of like a self-realization process or a society realization process, really kind of those combined you kind of realize what society and what yourself has been doing for the last 30 years. And once I realized one little thing there.
Speaker 2:Quitting was very easy, so I had quit. I didn't really get to the point where everything clicked until I don't know. I think you have five weeks of the initial, is it five weeks? Yeah, like four. Okay, so it was like on the fourth week where it really clicked for me. Up into that time, you know I'm staying, I'm going sticking with the program, but it really didn't become, didn't click, it didn't become a piece of cake, until I finally realized what I needed to realize. And yeah, I don't know, did I answer your question? I'm not supposed to question it. Yeah, yeah yeah, perfect.
Speaker 1:No, it's perfect. So how would you say it's different than because you did watch the YouTube videos and you did stop with the videos? How would you say is different to just watching the videos?
Speaker 2:The for me, from my point of view, your videos are advertisements for your program and I know that that they are helpful, and I know that they are helpful to people to kind of get a different viewpoint. But as I looked at him I was like, okay, he's, he's got something going on here, but I'm only getting like little, you know, sound bites of this thing. I want to know the whole thing. So so I that's what I decided. I said I'm gonna, I want to know the whole thing. I don't want to get this in a little bit of sound bites here and sound bites there. I want to fully understand what this guy is all about. I want to fully understand what he's saying, and so that's why I decided to do it.
Speaker 2:Everything else I had thought about or done wasn't good enough. I guess you know, at least in my mind, to, to get me to that point. And you know, honestly, dude, your program is so freaking simple that you show out that money and you go through that program. You're like man, this is really simple. He sits in front of a video, he talks about something for 1520, 25 minutes, and then you go on and you watch another video, and it seems so freaking simple it's. You kind of get that thing. Did I pay for this?
Speaker 2:But I don't think you really understand the power of it until you actually watch these things, take your time and think about it, because it is simple, it is freaking simple. You can't really say much more than what you say there, because it's when you, when it finally becomes obvious to you which it did, like all this stuff that you were talking about, it's like fucking obvious, it's obvious. You get to that point you're like, oh well it, you can't make it any more complex than it already is. It is a very simple, straightforward, logical program and you put it together in a way that kind of just very easy to to. What's the word comprehend or take in, I guess, is I don't know what the right word is.
Speaker 1:So then, now that, now that you've gone through it, what's it been like over the past five months not drinking? Compared to previous attempts, how would you say you feel different?
Speaker 2:When it comes to drinking, I don't. I don't even want to drink, I don't care, it doesn't matter, I don't. You know, I will tell you. This is the one thing I learned. This was the thing that clicked for me and this is what made it so simple.
Speaker 2:After, like I said before, whenever I stopped drinking, I missed it and I always wanted to be a non. I always wanted to be a normal drinker. I just want to. I wanted to be able to. I loved my frickin Scotch. I loved my beer with mix I can talk to those and I like my wine with a nice dinner. I loved it. I still love it. I mean, if I drink right now, I would love it.
Speaker 2:But the one thing that finally clicked with me and and I think you talk about this a little bit, but I don't, I don't know if you go in here, you do talk about this I Finally realized that I don't need to want to be a normal drinker. I just don't need to want to do that. Once I figured out I didn't need to, I don't need to want to be a normal drinker. Done, it was done. So I don't, I don't even think about drinking. I have been out a few times with people that are drinking. I don't care, it doesn't matter, I don't need to be one of those drinkers, it's just. That's what clicked with me. That was the thing that always got me back in. I wanted to be a normal fucking drinker and I wanted to be just like everybody else and I was pissed off about it and I and I resented it. I resented that I was not capable of that, but now that I know that I don't need to want that, I don't do it, nice man, so good.
Speaker 1:So let's talk about your life over the past five months then. So, now that you've been in the state of mind, now that it's like the problem solved, what's been happening over the past five months for you?
Speaker 2:Well, it's all all your problems there? No, it certainly. I have not been drinking, which is great. But everything else in my life is not perfect either. I got fired. I got fired last month. My girlfriend left me. You know, I still got to live this life.
Speaker 2:So stopping drinking doesn't solve everything. I and I, like I said, I've always been very high-functioning. I know I could do a little bit more If I'd stopped. I knew that it was ruining my health. I knew all these things, but I don't think drinking was ever something that really stopped me from, you know, living my life. But and stopping drinking, at least for me, didn't cure everything. You know I am.
Speaker 2:I'm keeping the weight off now, so that's good. A lot less calories. I Still have whatever, whatever issues I still have. I still have them and I got to work through those. I think it's a little bit easier to work through those now.
Speaker 2:But stopping drinking does not fix everything. But I'll tell you what what it has done for me. It it's just given me a little bit more clarity and it's given me a little bit more time. Coming home from work and drinking yourself to sleep every night Is a lot of time wasted. So I do have more time now and I do have more clarity and I am healthier and I'm I Am working on things that I would never have worked on before. I I mean this program in and of itself is has made me think about a lot of things that that I would like to Maybe share or work with, on people as well. So and I don't think it's because I stopped drinking, it's because I have a new mindset, I have a new way of seeing things and I would love people to, I Would love people to Become more familiar with your program.
Speaker 2:I think your program Fills a niche that has been widely ignored for the last I don't know 50 years. Honestly, I don't know of any other empowering program that basically empowers you, says you, dude, you are a person, hear the facts, make your decision, decide if you want to be a drunk, decide if you want, don't want to be a drunk. But know this, and I think people like like me, I think people who have the money for your program are people that have you know. They take charge of lives, of their lives to the most part. They're taking their charge of their lives for you know to to join your program. They're making a decision to try this, and I Think that people who are used to take taking charge of their lives are used to being active in the direction of their lives. They don't want to go and sit in a room with a bunch of people who are, all you know, mopey and I'm an alcoholic and I it's been three hours since my last drink they want to take charge. You give them the information that they can use to take charge to make that decision.
Speaker 2:There's nothing magic about your program. It's just. It just shows Some here's some facts and another way of thinking about it. If you're a smart person, you might want to consider this. So that's how.
Speaker 2:I see it.
Speaker 1:So so just going, I appreciate that and I love you for saying it. But just going back to the original question, so it's all good, but what was the question? You said, yeah, you said something that you said that when you stop drinking and I really appreciate you saying that, because it wouldn't the easy answer is, yeah, I lost some weight, absolutely better, I feel better. But you, obviously those things are gonna happen, but we all know that. But you're saying that you stopped drinking and it wasn't like a magic pill, nothing, you know. You saw all these issues, all these things you had to deal with and it and that is the fact, that's exactly what happens.
Speaker 1:Yeah but then you can well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, I think I can deal with these little things a little bit better now.
Speaker 2:I'm not surrendering, I guess, to you know, a surrounding sir, surrendering all my evenings to sit in front of the TV watching your YouTube, as I drink my scotch, you know, but uh, so, yeah, I mean, I think here's what I think. If alcohol is holding you back which I think it holds everybody back to what extent, I think, will vary from person to person but if alcohol is holding you back and you can't seem to Stop it from holding your back, if you can't be a normal drinker, I guess I would say You're only going to make your circumstances better if you Get rid of the thing that's holding you back, even if it's just this much, or if it's this much. So I Think alcohol is holding it. You know, I raised a family, I, I'm a professional, I make money Well, not right now, I gotta find a job but um, but it's never held me back in that respect. It's held me back in in a lot of little things, and I think now I can kind of start concentrating on those little things.
Speaker 1:Nice, yeah, yeah, yeah, great. So you said you're working on some new things. Do you want to talk about that?
Speaker 2:Well, you always talk about In your videos, and you know what are you gonna do and your videos, and you know what are you gonna do once you get rid of alcohol. I'll tell you one of the things I would like to do and I'm still thinking it through. Well, let me tell you about my brother. So my brother is a little bit younger than me. He, he, would love to stop drinking too, I think, but it's. It's got a real good hold on him and he hasn't come to the point in his mind where that decision of I'm gonna quit has taken place. I mean sure he'd love to quit, but it hasn't gotten there yet.
Speaker 2:And I don't know how to get it there and I don't know how you can make anybody get it there.
Speaker 2:But I think one of the biggest things that I came out of of your, of your program, is drinking is a decision. It's just a decision everybody makes and you can decide to keep drinking or you can decide to stop drinking, or you can decide not to decide and just cruise through life. So it really it was really profound to me that the first part of stopping drinking is the decision to stop drinking and you have to be able to come to that decision with enough knowledge and I Guess I don't know commitment, I don't know what to write it you have to be able to come to that decision. Like I said, I I decided to quit drinking a lot of time. I only actually did quit drinking when I had Some sort of, when I had a better understanding of what, of what this drinking thing whole all was. So with that information, I was able to make that decision and and and make it as a lasting one.
Speaker 2:So I kind of wanted to talk to people About the decision-making process. I kind of you know, I got this little boom here, we got a little mic here, I've got my living room set up here to do interviews. I would what my plan is. I would like to talk to people about the decision-making process. I would like to ask them you know, you know how did you get here? Where would you like to be? You know what kind of decisions got you here, what kind of decisions could get you to the place that you want to be and kind of not really Talk about all success stories, because there's very you know the big picture there's.
Speaker 2:There's a lot more unsuccessful stories than success stories. But I think it would be interesting to talk to people about how they got to where they are and where they want to go through the decisions that they've made, because Our whole lives are just based on, you know, the various decisions that we've made, and a lot of lives are based on making no decision at all, and I think to me, that is the crux of of Understanding and making a change, because a lot of people just Can't or won't or refuse to make any decision whatsoever. So I have a little setup where I want to interview people, just normal people Success stories, non-success stories. I've done a couple of them already. My daughter's helping me edit them. I think they'll turn out pretty good. I've still learned a lot, though. So that's what that's my new project. Had plenty of time right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that sounds great. Well, going back to the topic of decisions, if you've got somebody that's watching this video and they're like they're on the fence right there, they're trained with the decision. They think they might pull the trigger that they're thinking of doing the program. They've been watching the videos. What's one piece of advice that you'd give to them to help them make the decision to book a phone call to see if the program is good for them?
Speaker 2:Dude, if I had that piece of advice, I would tell that to my brother right now and make him make it out. This is I don't know. Quite frankly, I think everybody has to come to it. I think I think the one piece of advice that I would say is To just make the decision. Whatever the hell the decision is, just know that you're sitting here right now and you're deciding to go this way or that way.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of people, a Lot of people's problem, I mean, you know, like that rush song, you know, if you choose not to decide, you still the main choice. A lot of people can't or won't, or fear, I Guess, making a decision that's going to put them on a path one way or the other. Once you, once I know that path, you're no longer on this path, right, and so that I think it's a fear of missing out. I think it's a fear of making the wrong decision. There's a lot of reasons why people can't or won't make decisions. I think Making the choice to make that decision is the Number one thing. If you can't get to that point, you're just gonna be floating down this road with the waves, with the, with the current, and the decisions will all be made for you. So you have to come to the point To make that decision period, do it?
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