Strung Out Episode 238: THE RESPECT PERSPECTIVE WITH MARCUS GENTRY

We are living in tough times, made worse by a world that has made a lack of respect a virtue.  Caring about others and protecting your boundaries are now paramount when it comes to living free of negativity.  Speaker Marcus Gentry has devoted his life to researching and teaching about the necessity to practice the art of Respect.  Visit www.marcusgentry.com to find out about his seminars and classes.

Transcript

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Welcome to Strung Out, the podcast that looks at life through the lens of an artist. Your host is the artist, writer and musician Martin Lawrence McCormack. Now here's Marty.

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Strung Out. And I am, here with us Speaker Marcus Gentry, who has, devoted, a good chunk of his life researching and, respect him.

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Respect is such a, a deep topic, to, probe. But, since the last time we talked, it's been a lot of changes in our family that has, it has. And, so today we're taking advantage of some balmy winter weather, to just, sit out here in the, relative, warmth, beautiful weather.

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You. But, take my phone out of the way so it doesn't interfere with. Right? Right. Okay. We last talked, before the, new administration came. We did it, before any of the plane crashes. Before the plane crashes before, a lot of turmoil. You know, I have, personally, I have a Canadian agent for my music, and, I'm kind of embarrassed, but, but beyond that, you know, so much of this has to do with, again, respect and the notion of boundaries, you know, so that's that's the first question I want to ask you is, is respect in boundaries?

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Are they interrelated? Are they is it something that, when people crash on other people's boundaries, whether it be a nation, whether it be a political party, whether it be just a guy on the street, why? First of all, why is does such a person feel they're entitled to do that? And, and how do you defend yourself?

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Unknown
How do you how do you respect yourself to have boundaries? Does that make sense? Yeah, I, I think I understand the question. And I think it's a great question. So it begins as always, I think with respect for self. So the subject of boundaries, we can go a lot of different directions with that. So if you have respect for yourself then there are certain boundaries that you want to set.

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If you have respect for other people, then there's certain boundaries that you consider not crossing. But you have to get to know who you are, know who they are, and what boundaries need to be established to maintain healthy relationships. I mean, there's some people that we may need to set boundaries up because they're toxic, whether it's an individual or a company or business or whatever.

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You may recognize that they're toxic and you have to set boundaries for that. But I think it's important to consider what determines your boundaries. So some people's boundaries are set because of their core ethical values. And so no matter what society is doing or saying their values says, I'm going to respect me and I'm going to respect you regardless of where you come from, where you live, how you worship, what you believe.

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Unknown
If my core values and ethical standards says that, but if my standards are based on what I see on the news, my standards are based on policy, then I will change with the weather, or I'll change every time there's a new signing of a new decree that I shouldn't like you anymore. And we see this. This is present in so many, this present politically.

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Unknown
It's present religiously. It's it's just present in a lot of areas. But again, since we, we describe or define respect as to relook at ourselves and relook at others, a just to relook period. I think that's an investigation that some people aren't taking the time to make. Where am I? Because it's easy to just go with the flow or go with what everybody else is doing.

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What does the policy say? What does the group say? What does this organization say? What does the party say? I'm just going to follow that. And I don't have to think about my own value system. So that's kind of where I think that it's it's well, you're you're seeing a lot here. And in the the first, question I have about that is, why now, after all the years of, of of trying I mean, we're in a smaller world.

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Unknown
We're in a world of better communication. We're in a world where more people, I think now have been educated as opposed to not being educated. But why such a dearth of respect? Well, the statement that you made, I think there's a deeper conversation, which is that when a world of better communication, but not necessarily better connections, so we can communicate with people on the other side of the planet today with the greatest of ease, but have difficulty communicating with someone across from the dinner table or in the restaurant.

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Unknown
Right? Or or from another country or from another value. So connection is something and and our desire to communicate without connection seems to be growing because technology is growing and technology doesn't dictate that you have to have a personal connection or interaction. So just that skill alone is being lost in a lot of ways. So you say, why now?

00:06:10:50 - 00:06:40:33
Unknown
I think in some ways we are evolving, technologically speaking, but declining in some ways socially. Yeah, okay. That makes a lot of sense the way you just described that, because social media is a great example, that it is because I could put up, you know, I can put up pictures of me, you know, having, a wall would look like a nice vacation or some.

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But I am not really connecting with anybody. What I'm doing is I'm just advertising my own, you know. Hey, look at me. I'm, I'm happy or whatever. I mean, it basically can become a false narrative. Is that what you're saying? It can be. It becomes, the highlight reel. Okay. And if if people are only caught up in the highlight reel, then they don't know the back story.

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Unknown
And most people aren't put in terms of social media for move down that direction. Yeah. This is an example. Yeah. I mean, yeah. People are more interested in quick responses, quick likes and things of that sort, not necessarily knowing the back story. So yeah, you can post your highlight reel. The sad part is that some people will base their whole life on someone else's highlight reel.

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Unknown
And they'll try to design something based on that, not knowing what they did to get to that place. Right. Not knowing that that thing that they saw or heard is an excerpt. It could be a false narrative. It could be I mean, so in, in as a human species, it seems like we, we tend to lean toward the false narrative, in the sense that, you know, the grass is greener on the other side of the fence, that, is is there play into this notion of respect then?

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Unknown
As far as being under assault by are falling away from connectivity. You use the word connectivity. And connectivity is kind of what we're doing right now. You talking we're we're looking at each other and, and that that opportunity for people to have connectivity is been really kind of thrown under, you know, to the wayside. Right.

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Unknown
Is that is that part of the the assault on respect? It it just seems that some of those things are just not as important. And that again, definitions interferes oftentimes with the quality of relationships. So people will still define what they do as respect that put it under that heading. But the definition that's being used today or the way it's being played out, is very different than what it used to be, maybe some years ago or some time ago.

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Unknown
So, yeah. And once it's, it's being pushed down, another sense is just not as important in another sense. It's just being redefined. So someone can say yeah I respect you. And I respect us, but I need to set these boundaries because of some superficial thing. Right. That I believe or some political posture. Right, that I need to take.

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And that's the reason why I'm doing that. Do you see a connection then between the, the current political turmoil in the world really now just seems like everybody's on fire. And this, the fact that people are not engaging one on one, I mean, this seems to be, a worldwide trend that that people, are not able to have the time is that, I mean, connectivity takes time, right?

00:10:11:23 - 00:10:32:22
Unknown
It takes, an investment of one's life and willingness to, on one level, maybe slow down. I mean, is that because I would, you know, I mean, these these things have been thrown out there, but people say, oh, yeah, yeah, that's great, Marcus. You're right. But I'm too busy to sit down with Joe Blow and talk.

00:10:32:27 - 00:11:00:07
Unknown
Is that is that what's going on? That is definitely a part of it. I often talk about the, the book, the answer to how is yes. And I use that oftentimes when I'm teaching classes because it asks a question and it says that before what it says is before we start talking about how to do something, how do I get more time and things like this is we have to say yes to a few things.

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Unknown
And so one of the first things in his book, Peter Block is the author's name. He said that we need to do is ask ourselves how much of a desire to do something that we have. So our desire determines how much effort we're going to put into something. Okay, so if the desire is not there, it doesn't matter how much opportunity you have or how many opportunities you get, you're just not going to make the sacrifice.

00:11:27:32 - 00:11:52:14
Unknown
You're not going to do what's necessary. Because the bottom line is it's not that important. You don't have a desire. And I always say that a good way to test your desire or examine it or to respect it, relook at it, is to think about what you have done over the last seven days in terms of building a connection with the people who you say are important, right?

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Unknown
Regardless of policy, regardless of anything. And if you can't really think of anything you did to build a connection, you probably don't have a strong enough desire to want to do it. So I don't think time itself is the culprit. I think desire, because when you want to do something, you'll find the time to make it happen.

00:12:09:26 - 00:12:30:34
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Because the time is not going to change. We can't manage time. Time is not going to change. The only thing that we have control over is how we choose to prioritize those 24 hours that we have. Okay. Let's, let's take a little break here. And when we come back, we're going to talk a little more about that, being able to say yes.

00:12:30:39 - 00:12:47:59
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And, creating the desire to communicate. And, so you're with, Marcus Gentry here, and we are talking about respect, strung out the respect perspective. We'll be right back.

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Document back down. Express. Coming up. I'm good this time. Half again. This time.

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One more.

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What I need, what I need, what I need to show.

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If only it was that easy. I know. Hey. Magic charm beat out a gold a strong sword for me to hold. Yeah, for me to hold.

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What I want, what I want, what I wanna be.

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I want to feel it there inside of me.

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Passion is painting the Sistine ceiling. Hot as a pot of fine Darjeeling. Yeah. Sweet. It takes courage to be courageous. Courage to be courageous, discouraging. Urging to those pernicious outrage that rages so contagious. It takes courage to be courage. Just courage to be courageous against the vicious, pernicious of fishes. Give them strength, love, a prayer, good wishes, prayers, good wishes.

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Yeah, yeah. See?

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You know valor. No talent of valor. And some battle ground.

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Unknown
It's a daily skirmish with courage. It's fine. Yeah. Hey, don't fall for the tricks. And said. Yeah, stay grounded. Stay suspicious. Yeah. It takes courage to be courageous. Could you be courageous? Discouraging, urging to those pugnacious. I'll raise outrage. So contagious. Takes good to be courageous. Courage to be courageous against the vicious, pernicious of fishes. Give them strength, love.

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Reckon. Wish us prayers and good wish us. Yeah, yeah.

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Resist, resist, resist. The dwellers of the doom.

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Who feast on Roma. Drama and will.

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Their weakness is a love of bread. You're better. Angels are standing by your side. Yeah. It takes courage to be courageous. Courage to be courageous. As the scourging urgings of those pugnacious outrage that rages so contagious. It takes courage to be cold, rage us courage to be courageous against what is pernicious of fishes. Give them strength. Love pregnant.

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Wish us luck. Pregnant. Wish us yeah. Yeah, yeah. You. You.

00:17:43:45 - 00:18:09:31
Unknown
We're back. And, we are, we are. Back talking about the respect. Perspective. And I really like the direction we're going right now, because this is something that you just talked about in the before we took a break about people around you. So we're not even talking like strangers. We're talking about family and friends, you know?

00:18:09:36 - 00:18:45:47
Unknown
And, you know, they always say what? Charity begins at home. Well, maybe respect us, too. I was thinking to myself, like, how? How much of a desire do I create in my own life to to, connect with people? And, so let's let's expound a little bit on that. You know, if, if people, you know, are not able to understand, what connection really is, maybe that's the problem.

00:18:45:51 - 00:19:12:37
Unknown
It could be that could be part of it. Sure. That could be a part of it. I like to think also a big part, lack of desire has to do with the lack of purpose. Okay. Or knowing the reason why. I mean, in there many books and movies and many the great teachers have talked about we have to have purpose and meaning because purpose is the foundation that everything else stands on.

00:19:12:37 - 00:19:38:17
Unknown
So even in terms of building healthy connections, and again, I'm trying to figure out how to have a passion. One of the things that creates and fuels that passion is a purpose, driving purpose, a strong reason why it's important that you make that connection. So if you sit back and think about, okay, I want to connect with this person, whoever it is.

00:19:38:22 - 00:19:58:18
Unknown
Even if it's somebody like to say if another, country or another political party, if you really have a desire to want to do it, the question is, why is it important? Why is it important to build healthy relationships? Why is it important to build a healthy connection if that reason is strong, if you're thinking about it, are you talking to someone about it?

00:19:58:18 - 00:20:23:36
Unknown
And they can spell out 3 or 4 reasons? Well, the reason why I want to make this connection with this person, is because of this, and I believe in that. And other than just general words, it's the right thing or it's family or it's friends or we have the same last name other than general categories. If your reason is strong, what it will do is create and fuel the passion.

00:20:23:41 - 00:20:53:38
Unknown
And so what I say is it's not to say, but I say it this way. The purpose creates the passion to prepare, to complete the process. And I'll say that again, yeah, I was just going to ask you please repeat that for us is creates the passion to prepare to complete the process. Okay. So so what that means is when you know why something is important, when that is so solid with you, you're going to be passionate about making it happen.

00:20:53:43 - 00:21:23:59
Unknown
Now you will prepare, you'll put in, you'll do what's necessary to complete the process. Because building healthy connections and overriding policies that may conflict with your core values. And that's something that that we we talked about earlier, political policies and directives and things like that. To override that in your personal circles is a process. It's not a podcast.

00:21:24:04 - 00:21:41:24
Unknown
It's not a PowerPoint presentation. It's not one sitting down, one conversation, and then that's it. It's a it's a process. And you're not going to go through the process. You're not going to prepare to do it. You're not going to have a desire to do if you don't know why it's that important. So that's that's where the digging in, is.

00:21:41:24 - 00:22:12:11
Unknown
So such a critical piece. When I hear you're talking about this, I'm thinking about your classes and, you know, the the people in your classes. How did they respond to that? When you you say you know that purpose, you have to have the purpose. You know, in order to have, the results. Is there something that, like, is, a revelation or is it just a reconnection with something they lost?

00:22:12:16 - 00:22:43:37
Unknown
What I find most often is consistent with statistical studies. Okay. Which is this, typically only 10% of the population tends to be those who look to go deep versus wide, who tend to be. The deal closes the problem solvers and decision makers. Only 10% of the population tend to do that in any given situation. Generally speaking.

00:22:43:42 - 00:23:15:32
Unknown
Okay, 70% of the population tends to continue to follow what's popular, familiar and comfortable regardless of new information that's been presented. If it's not familiar, if it's not what my friends are doing, it's not popular. If I can't stay in my comfort zone right now, I got to do it 20%. No matter what you share, they say statistically tends to stay confused and not know why things happen.

00:23:15:37 - 00:23:33:43
Unknown
Yeah, I don't know how this keeps happening to me, I don't know, okay, I'm in this situation again. So like the deliberately or. Well, no, don't let me finish your sentence. So these are people that basically the world is they think the world happens to them and they can't figure out they end up in the same relationship.

00:23:33:43 - 00:24:15:11
Unknown
I don't know, why do I keep getting these relationships? I don't know why I keep having these financial problems. I don't know. My health is why my health is is declining. No matter what doctors say, friends say or others share. It didn't stay confused. So that's excuse me, that's consistent with what I see in my classes. Okay, so, there's only a fraction of people, but as a, as a speaker looking to inform and create information and opportunities, I am pleased with the 1 or 2 that may respond.

00:24:15:16 - 00:24:43:56
Unknown
Okay. I am pleased with the deeper understanding that it took me a while to get to that. My role is not to make someone grow or cause them to be awakened. My goal is to provide information and an opportunity. And to grow myself. Okay. And have I, have I spoken truth as I know it? Have I this not watered down?

00:24:43:56 - 00:25:08:59
Unknown
Have I tried to be considerate of myself and the people who I'm talking to and the environment that we're in and and the process that it takes. So even with the fourth aspect of respect for which is respect the process, I know the process of understanding and application comes with time. Yeah. So that's a matter of hearing something right.

00:25:09:03 - 00:25:33:23
Unknown
And then processing what you just heard and then put it in perspective. How does this apply to my life? How can it apply? And now here's what I can do to take back. That's a process that may take a moment, but may take years before we take a break. I'm assuming those are the four steps, then.

00:25:33:23 - 00:26:03:46
Unknown
Respect for self, respect for others, respect for the environment and respectful process okay. Process. And and we're right now we're kind of, you know, walking around the process because so much of of of people don't understand that, what you are, what you are teaching is teaching people how to understand that there is a process involved in becoming, self-respecting and respectful of other people.

00:26:03:50 - 00:26:30:35
Unknown
So, we're going to take a little break again. We're talking with Marcus Gentry, and, Marcus Gentry can be reached at Marcus gentry.com. Yes. And, he gives, classes all across the United States. He travels quite a bit. And, for a very good reason. He's he's trying to get us all back.

00:26:30:40 - 00:26:47:20
Unknown
Thinking of in terms of respect and earn the respect perspective, a series that we're going to be pursuing, as we, go into 2025. And, boy, I think we need it. We do. It's time. It's time you're out strung out.

00:26:47:20 - 00:27:10:59
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00:27:11:04 - 00:27:19:04
Unknown
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00:27:19:04 - 00:27:50:52
Unknown
I'm back with my friend Marcus Gentry. Once again, we're just taking advantage of, what is a beautiful winter day? In Chicago? It is? I mean, it's supposed to go low tonight, and, I know I keep saying, hey, the for the for step support keys, and, I know you outlined them, just before we took the break, but I think it, you know, bears repeating again because I myself need to internalize them.

00:27:50:57 - 00:28:19:06
Unknown
Can you again state for people just the way you see the four steps of respect? Okay. I can, it begins with understanding respect as the foundation and the umbrella that everything is encased in and around. And that means to hold in high esteem. The word respect. But it also means re spect to relook at, to reexamine or.

00:28:19:11 - 00:28:43:33
Unknown
And the author, I think Mark Adams, the positive that's the name of the author has the book called Think Again. So it's about that. It's about rethinking thinking again about one respect for self. Okay. So much we can spend with that. Yeah. Knowing who you are you have to know who you are. To be able to develop a respect, to relook, to reexamine all aspects of your life.

00:28:43:33 - 00:29:04:30
Unknown
The older messages, the shadows that follow you, the, the, the, the beliefs and the habits that are practice. You respect yourself. Second one is respect for others. What does that mean? Do you have barriers that keeps you from looking or re looking at someone who doesn't look like you? Sound like you walk, worship, practice, believe like you can.

00:29:04:30 - 00:29:35:39
Unknown
You have respect for other people, without trying to get them to conform to your way of thinking and living and being, respect for environment. So we are respecting the environment. When it gets cold, we're going to respect it again by putting on the proper clothes. So it's one thing about respecting the environment when you watch any of the survival programs, those who survive are those who understand what the environment is and adapt appropriately to that environment.

00:29:35:44 - 00:30:07:19
Unknown
So we can talk about respecting our physical environment if we don't take care of our physical environment, a home, our property, our material things, then it won't serve us well later. But we can also look at respecting a relooking at our social environment. Okay. What is changing in our political climate? Right. That becomes something to be concerned about when you operate in a grocery store, in traffic, when you're moving along and you have to interact with people.

00:30:07:19 - 00:30:47:40
Unknown
So respecting that our social climate is changing. Okay. How after the pandemic, the the patience or lack of patience and compassion seems to be fading and there's a different climate, that's present. So respecting the environment overall and the last one is respecting the process. So, everything is not, a quick fix, right? Not microwavable. So things take a process to be able to create and develop into what it is that we want it to be if it's going to be sustainable, right?

00:30:47:45 - 00:31:17:34
Unknown
I love that it's not microwavable. That's, such a good, analogy because we, as a society, I think is it's, it's safe to say that we, we want everything done. Yes. Right now. Right now. And, so my question, and thank you for repeating that because that helps me, you know, formulate to, the process of, you know, you trust the process, but it's interesting.

00:31:17:34 - 00:31:47:08
Unknown
That's the last thing because you have to you have to kind of get through all those other steps. I think a lot of people watching this and seeing you talk about this, it's going to say, okay, Mr. Gentry, what does this eventually get if I follow all four steps? Am I going to win the lottery? Am I, what is the benefit?

00:31:47:12 - 00:32:12:50
Unknown
For me, we live in a world where, people are like, hey, well, we'll it's easier to go to the opposite. I can walk all over you and and disrespect you because, you know, that's not going to it's not going to affect. But there is something there, right? You know, in terms of benefit you're talking about.

00:32:12:50 - 00:32:38:17
Unknown
Yeah. And benefits and also the maybe, you know, the, the fact that, it and not to get into karma, but let's, let's. This is going to extend this last section longer, folks. So just be ready. What is the benefit, out of this? I'm being facetious when I say, hey, you know, am I going to win the lottery?

00:32:38:17 - 00:33:12:15
Unknown
It's is my respecting somebody is, you know, where they are in the world and, you know, relating with a person as a human being. Where has that gotten a lot of people in the past? It seems like human nature is, you know, always so willing to disrespect. Yeah. Well, the outcome is not always something that you can put on a table, that everybody can look at, to be visible.

00:33:12:19 - 00:33:58:16
Unknown
It's most important who you become, okay? In the process. Whether you can become the greatest version of yourself possible and, override limitations that you might have, opening up possibilities for things that will allow you to live your best life, whatever that needs to look like. Okay, doesn't mean that you need to look like anybody else's life, but to find a way to live a life that when you look in a mirror, you feel good about yourself, that you don't have a lot of restrictions, limitations because of past messages or or information or misinformation that you've been given that you didn't dissect, sure that you're planning out so that you can be the best

00:33:58:16 - 00:34:23:57
Unknown
version of yourself when you truly realize I feel truly who you are and what you're capable of, the possibilities are limitless. And the idea is so that you can be at peace with yourself, to be at peace with yourself and the life choices that you have made. And you've not done anything to particularly harm others, or the environment.

00:34:23:57 - 00:34:50:28
Unknown
I'd feel a life of peace and okay, a life of peace and to and again that that can that can vary from one extreme to the other. I, I was in you already said was going to run a little longer right. Yeah. I think that's a good example. I was, I was in the health club, once, and I was talking with another guy, and the guy was saying that his, father had just passed, and I follow this pass around same time.

00:34:50:30 - 00:35:16:55
Unknown
Okay. At the age of 99. Wow. And he said that, his father's practice was to drink a shot of cognac or something like that, every day and smoke a cigar. So my father's habit was to not drink at all, to drink water every day and try to eat healthy. And and they both lived to be 99.

00:35:17:00 - 00:35:56:47
Unknown
So they walked very different paths, but they both made it to 99. They both lived a life of peace and contentment for themselves. And so I think it's important to know what your definition of satisfaction is. And that is where we're going to leave, this podcast, because I think we should pick that up into the next podcast is, the idea in the respect perspective of, of being able to come to terms with what your goals are or, you know, realistic goals for oneself.

00:35:56:51 - 00:36:20:18
Unknown
I would like for you to expound a little bit on that, because even, you know, I have difficulty with that. I, I think like, well, you know, I am now 61 years old and at this stage in my life, what should I be doing? And, and maybe you folks out there, also of the same opinion, or think the same thing, you know, at this point in my life.

00:36:20:23 - 00:36:43:58
Unknown
What what does it mean to be at peace with oneself? How do I say, okay, I've I've attained this peace. And, luckily for us, we have the expert in the field here we have Marcus Gentry. And, again, I want to say Marcus gentry.com. If you have questions, you can send it along to respected Marcus Gentry, respected Marcus gentry.com.

00:36:44:07 - 00:37:11:51
Unknown
And, that's, the email address. And if you want to have Marcus come and talk, part of the reason we're doing this is to, to get this message out to the masses and, and have, it. Marcus, reach and change more people's lives in such a positive fashion. That's it for now on Strung Out, we're going to be following up with another podcast.

00:37:11:56 - 00:37:23:09
Unknown
Diving into, respect even further. So, we'll we'll see you back here. On the porch. Very good bye for now. Right.

00:37:23:09 - 00:37:40:52
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00:37:40:57 - 00:37:53:44
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It's so strong. Spain, we feel, makes no sense at all. The swan song wasn't part of the deal, was no good. All giving no choice. Giving us a.