Seeking Center: The Podcast

WOO NEWS: Unlocking Psychic Abilities & Trending Spiritual Hacks - Episode 159

Robyn Miller Brecker, Lisa Capretto, Noel Kehoe Season 2 Episode 159

Welcome to the first official Woo News episode — your energetic update meets spirit world current events! 

This week, Robyn, Lisa, and Noel are taking you on a mini joyride through the woo-woo headlines that made us say, "Wait, WHAT?!"

From scientific studies suggesting that your brain might actually be blocking your natural psychic abilities (👀🤯) to the rise of grounding sheets and wellness rooms, we’re diving into all the spiritual trends and research you won’t find on your typical news feed.

This isn’t just fun and fascinating — it’s also a peek behind the spiritual curtain into the new practices, gadgets, and ideas that are changing the way people live, sleep, and tune in.

💫 We’ll explore:

  • What researchers are discovering about psychic suppression in the brain
  • The buzzy trend of grounding sheets — and whether they’re legit
  • Baba Vanga's 2025 predictions freaks everyone out
  • Why wellness rooms are becoming must-haves in the home
  • How you can share your own woo-woo finds with us!
  • Think of it as your cosmic catch-up with your best friends who just happen to be obsessed with all things spiritual and weirdly wonderful.


👉 Have an article, video, or spiritual story that blew your mind? We want to hear from you! Email us or DM us on Instagram @theseekingcenter.

Let’s keep the woo conversation going 💜

ARTICLES MENTIONED 

- Is your brain blocking your psychic abilities?  

- Grounding sheets: Woo-woo trend of secret to better sleep?  

- "Wellness rooms" are claiming space in many homes

- Why I meditate while driving

- Are Blind Psychic Baba Vanga's 2025 Predictions Coming True?  

- Goodbye, church... Hello, Wellness Industrial Complex!  

- Children played a spiritual role in prehistoric cave art  

- How the days of the week can help you interpret your dreams

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Robyn: [00:00:00] Hi everyone. We have a short bonus episode this week and you may find a few more of them coming up. Our Seeking Center team is trying something new. We're sharing the woo woo stories that are lighting us up, blowing our minds, or making us say, wait, what?

Think of it as your energetic update meets spirit world, current events, and let us know what you think.  

I'm so excited that we're finally taping this conversation and there will be many more for those that are listening or watching. We've been talking about Woo News for quite some time. It's something that Lisa came up with a while ago so that she could keep all of us updated on the spiritual topics and trends that are going on in the world, and we love going through it every week.

It was, I know it's something that Noel and I and Karen who couldn't be here today. We look forward to looking to see what Lisa has come up with. So thank you Lisa. 

Lisa: Welcome. 

Robyn: And we've wanted to actually [00:01:00] tape these conversations ' they're eyeopening 'cause it's like you have no idea what is actually being created or being practiced.

Lisa: It's very cool and it's not stuff that you would normally like just come across in like your main feeds or this and that.

Like this is stuff that I have searched out and that's why I am like there's so much out there you don't even realize it until you go digging and looking for it. And I of course try and find the more mainstream sources of these kind of topics. But it's very cool. There's so much to talk about.

Noel: We all usually end up laughing our butts off. do. 

Lisa: Can be a little wacky. 

Robyn: Yeah. It's really nice to have this curated list of articles or videos to check out and we will be doing this on an ongoing basis, you can be looking out for Woo News every few weeks in our community, and then we'll be talking about it.

And if you have any feedback or you come across any articles or videos, we should check out, send it to our team, . Yep. So with that, [00:02:00] we're gonna start with our latest so Lisa, let's kick it off. 

Lisa: Okay. Let's see. . There was one that I found, which was, is your brain blocking? Your psychic abilities and it was like, huh. So researchers found evidence that parts of the brain might act as a SI PSI inhibitor. meaning that the brain suppresses its natural psychic abilities potentially.  

It was really interesting to me 'cause I never thought of it. I know a lot of guides and everybody had said we, this is all in us. We all have this. But when it's not something that, it's at the forefront for you, seeing something like this is oh there's some research and some science with it.

Okay, let's see about that. So researchers tested like this technique that. Temporarily disrupts a certain specific area of the brain in the frontal lobe. And when that region is disrupted the participant showed signs of these abilities that are typically [00:03:00] suppressed. So it was suggesting that the brain may be acting as a filter blocking out natural psychic capabilities.

Wow. 

Robyn: I'm so interested. It makes me want to like. Put kind all kinds of those little nodes. Yeah, the little nodes. So that we can, like an e, EG almost to measure different people's brain functions, especially psychics that we know, because clearly they're not being blocked.

Yeah 

Noel: like the telepathy 

Robyn: tapes. Yeah. That's really interesting. 

Yeah, I thought that was cool. One trend that I wanted us to discuss, 'cause I had not heard of this. Grounding sheets. Have you heard? 

Yes, I have heard of them. And they are supposed to simulate the frequency of the earth , I haven't had a chance to read the article, but that is the idea.

Robyn: That's 

Lisa: good point. They. Help transfer earth's natural electrons to your body as you sleep to give you a more grounded [00:04:00] restful feel. And you plug them in. You plug 

Robyn: them in. That's what in, so they're frequency, right? Yeah. Like just any sort of other sound frequency. There's a frequency within them.

Lisa: I haven't tried them. Take it with a grain of salt too, because, they've done studies on this, but all the studies out there, really small sample size, a lot of it's funded by the company selling the products. So it's I don't know, it's a trend. It's what people are talking about.

It is a trend 

Robyn: because I know I have had people ask about it. It's crazy. I can't speak to it and you know how we are, like, we like to try things before we recommend them. But Trend to look out for. Let us know if you're in this community and you've tried them. Let us know what you think.

Yeah, it's on the radar.   

Lisa: Along those lines, another trend. Wellness rooms, which as we all know, after the pandemic, a lot of people were rethinking the spaces in their home and, making some dual spaces and whatnot. And so what some interior designers and decorators are seeing is that.

People are transforming rooms into sanctuaries of self [00:05:00] care, whatever that means for them. It might be something different. What? Like a home gym or a music room or a meditation space or whatever it is. And I was thinking, what would we put in our wellness rooms? I know what I would put in my wellness room.

I wanna 

Robyn: know what you'd put. 

Lisa: I would put three things in my wellness room, one big soaking tub like. Big relaxing tub. And two, I would love some kind of zen garden greenery situation going on. I think that would be great. And number three, wine fridge.

Noel: Noel, what would do you do? I think I would do something outside, maybe because I'm in Los Angeles and my house is small. But you don't need to create a whole entire room. You can create like a space that is also used for something else. But I think I would sit outside and I would put like my meditation pillow.

I've got like Buddha heads in my garden. I would just sit near some flowers and like just create a little [00:06:00] space and I do have a wine fridge in my garage. You're already a step ahead. Maybe make it close to the garage or I could be sit in my jacuzzi. I got a jacuzzi in the front of my yard.

I can just sit there. That sounds pretty ideal. At least you should come over. 

Lisa: I know. I was like, you have my ideal wellness room already. That's great. 

Noel: That's awesome. But I do sometimes My girlfriend bought me a little meditation cushion, and the other day I was so sick of being inside that I just took my meditation cushion and I sat on my deck in the warmest sunshiny spot and I just sat there and did the breathing method that we learned the other day from Danielle and Brittany. 

Robyn: Wow. I love that. I think for me, I would invest in one of these like biohacking mats that's all about like energy. So talk about like grounding sheets. And I know Karen's tried it, I wanna try this. There are, what is this? Yeah. We've had these two women on the podcast before and it's a pretty decent investment in one of these mats that is supposed to.

From a [00:07:00] frequency perspective, transmute certain energy and cells within your body so that you feel happier, you feel more engaged, you can focus better. It's all about continuing to regenerate certain cells within you, and you only have to lay on it from for 10 to 15 minutes a day.  

I think in my ideal room, It'd be soundproof. It would have some really awesome speakers in it so that I can pump different types of frequencies or guided meditations. And then I'd be laying on that mat for a good 15 minutes and I would want some comfy pillows and things like it.

It would need some comfort in there. . And then my wine fridge would be like right outside the door. Yeah. Easily accessible. Maybe that's easily accessible. Yes.   

Lisa: You said something about guided meditation, so that made me think of the next one that, I had seen, which was, meditate while driving was the name of the article. And what was interesting to me, 'cause when I hear meditation, [00:08:00] I think like guided meditation or maybe eyes closed kind of meditation. So I'm like, what kind of meditation are we doing while driving? This is soundless and it's through like Apple Watch or whatever.

And it's not voice guided, it's just, it's like soundless breath work that's guided by haptic feedback. So you feel it, 

Noel: huh? 

Lisa: Which is really interesting. Actually, at Stanford, they did a study into this type of thing. They used simulators. They didn't like. Put people on the highway and then be like, let's just see what happens.

So they, they use simulators, but they had 24 participants in this study and they had these cars like vibrate, haptically, like the seats for when they should do different breathing, breathe in whatever. And their heart rate variability increased, suggesting they were becoming less stressed.

And the guy who wrote this article is this has definitely made my driving. Less distracted and I'm way less road ragey and all that. And so [00:09:00] Noel, like you had just mentioned, we had that breath work exercise that we did with Brittany and with Danielle. And that's made me think of this as well.

And I was like I think, 'cause at first I was like, no, I couldn't meditate while driving. I need to focus, like I need to know what I'm doing. But with this, I was like, I don't know, maybe I could, do you think you would. Be calmed by this or do you think it would be a distraction for you?

I don't know. 

Noel: I'd like to try it. I'd definitely like to try it 'cause I was supposed to go to the valley today, which for those people who live in Los Angeles is like going to Mars. It's so far, but I was gonna see a friend who's travel here from overseas and I was gonna be in the car for god knows how long, like an hour and a half, whatever.

But I was like, you know what, I'm gonna see a friend who gives a hoot. So I was just gonna like. Pull out like my Eckhart Tolle and just being present, like you're stuck in traffic. There's nothing you can do about it. Just deal with it and listen to a podcast or do this haptic thing. Like I would love to, to try that.

Robyn: I'm curious how that ties into your seat. Do you have to have a special, [00:10:00] or if you're using your Apple watch, is it like pulsing on you or 

Lisa: So the study, the Stanford study was, the haptic feedback was in the car seat. That's they, like they built it in. Yeah. That was like a special thing.

But what this guy does who wrote the article, it's something through his watch. That's 

Robyn: cool. Personally, I know when I go on long road trips especially, or if I know I am driving for a few hours, I will I don't even necessarily purposely do it. I get into a somewhat of a meditation, depending if I'm listening to certain music

, I feel like it's one of those times where you can choose to not have too many outside influences. Like you can choose to not be on the phone, and so therefore you can focus on allowing whatever needs to drop in your mind. Drop in. And it can start by breathing as long as to me.

You're not falling asleep, which clearly they're keeping that in mind. 'cause you can definitely do that with certain frequencies. When I listen to certain music, it absolutely gets [00:11:00] me into that way of thinking. So for a lot of us, I know for people who live in Chicago who are commuting right now, some of the commutes are hour and a half in the morning.

Especially use the time rather than. Listening to the news, which I know some people do maybe use it to do this, at least one of the ways it's something 

Noel: to try. Why not? I love that. , I usually listen to the Seeking Center podcast 'cause I'm never alone unless I'm in my car and that's when I listen to the seeking.

Lisa: That's useful. You can do that too. 

Noel: You can do that. I also did a walking meditation yesterday. My girlfriend was telling me about the Peloton walking meditation and I started walking. I started to close my eyes. 'cause that's what you think. And I'm like, I should really, should not be closing my eyes right now.

Lisa: Oh, walking. Yeah. Maybe look where. Yes. But it was 

Noel: really cool. If anybody ever wants to check that out the Peloton walking meditations are really cool. 

Robyn: Oh, I'll,   

Lisa: We're gonna get a little weird now. We love 

Robyn: weird. 

Lisa: Okay. Blind psychic Baba Venga, she passed away in [00:12:00] 96? She has made a lot of predictions all the way through to, let's see, the year 50 79.

So said a lot of shit. But recently one of the things that she said about 2025, I believe, was a devastating earthquake and As we know. this was the one in Myanmar. Yep. On March 28th. That was a 7.7. And then. when that happened, people were like, oh, she predicted this.

She was like a mystic and a healer and psychic. And she's other predictions that they've attributed to her have been nine 11. Princess Diana's passing Chernobyl. So like she's been around and like apparently saying a lot of these things for a while, people are wondering now oh, what else is gonna come true from this?

Because a lot of things that she said, a lot of these major kind of happenings she has perhaps predicted she is predicting alien contact in, Nope, not our lifetime. Sorry, Rob. Oh, okay. [00:13:00] Damn. 2130. So yeah, she forecasted 2025 would bring shattering earthquakes.

She also, she has a few other 2025 predictions, which, 

Robyn: Oh, but like what,   

Lisa: War breaking out in Europe. 

Robyn: Oh, 

Lisa: really? And a worldwide economic disaster. 

Robyn: No. Oh yeah. What. Okay, everyone, this is, we're taping this on April 9th, 2025, and we're seeing some of the foreshadowing of that. We're in some of it right now.

Exactly. Isn't that crazy? That's nuts. This woman died in 1996. Yep. Oh, 

Lisa: yep. There's just reports of her predictions, so I don't know. 

Robyn: Okay, it's it, and as we always say, you take these things with a grain of salt

Lisa: So you know what else she says? I would love to know what Stevie and perhaps Michelle think about this, but she says in 2028, humans will begin to explore Venus as an energy source. [00:14:00] Wow. Okay. Yeah, we'll have to bring that up with them. Yeah, we'll have to see. So yeah, a lot of her, and a lot of her predictions are a little, they're not super uplifting guys okay.

Yeah. We'll move on from her. Okay. 

Noel: The one thing that I wanted to add about the psychic ability and it being like curtailed in your brain or whatever is that. Some of the practices that you can learn at Seeking Center and like some of the books and like all of the wellness stuff that we've been going over the years, like you're training your brain to be able to accept that.

That's 

Robyn: true. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. am interested in looking into that more because I do, I feel like there's, for each person, there's a different time in their lives where it becomes more open. in some people's lifetime, it doesn't open. They're not meant to.

But there's something about that, especially if you're listening to this right now. I think you're a little open. 

Lisa: Yep. Yeah. One thing that I thought was really relevant for us and what we're doing with Seeking Center was the [00:15:00] just a 20 minute NPR episode that was titled Goodbye Church.

Hello, wellness Industrial Complex. Wellness is starting to encompass a lot of different things, including spirituality. Yeah. Yoga, reiki, whatever. Some people are even treating wellness as a religion, like the way that they're approaching it. So what I thought was interesting in this article was the framing of religion and spirituality.

Religion as this conversation was going on, they were talking about how religion is often comes with some internalized shame components and that spirituality is radical self-acceptance. And so they framed it like that, which I was like, that's interesting. But then there's a flip side to it, which they talked about self-serving spiritualities in the sense that they're more inward.

Not outward facing, so they don't have the communal properties and the whole collective and the, responsibility and community outreaching, [00:16:00] taking care of each other and that sort of thing. And it was just spirituality focusing very much on individualistic aspects of wellness, which I was like.

Huh, I had not considered it like that. And that was really fascinating. They're like, people are choosing spiritual practices based more on their feelings and is this the new version of religion? And if it is, then there's this component that's perhaps lacking, which is community, and like, how does that get addressed?

So I was like, oh. Center community. Yes. Yes. Ideas. Yes. I thought it was like really relevant and interesting for what we're working on and what we're working towards. Yeah. 

Noel: We are trying to do it for ourselves and then to take it out to your family, take it out to the community, and that's always what, that's always been part of my wellness practice.

It's not necessarily just about yourself.  

And I think. 

Robyn: Because spirituality is so personal but from a universal perspective, what I would say is [00:17:00] that we all believe in something bigger than ourselves, and it's working on. Faith and hope in a different way, and getting to know who you are and why you are here.

So that's very individual. However, you need the support of the community and then the acceptance that we're all at different points on the path. So I think that's the acceptance, right? Then the community is supporting each other, linking arms where we can, for some of us it may be pulling somebody else forward or just putting your arm around them.

And for others it Maybe helping them just stay in a certain place for a little while. They get deeper into why they are where they are. So it's so interesting because there needs to be a marriage of community, but I can see what people are saying and I always say to people I understand.

To a degree outside of why I think sometimes fear has created religions and or cults, by the [00:18:00] way. I also understand the community aspect of those things. And when you go through things that are crossroads in your life where you don't know what to do or where to go or where to turn to, a lot of people turn to religion just for the community and for structure.

And I think you can now find that in a way. That is more open to you figuring out you with certain tools available, however, in a supported place that's loving and loving you where you are, and then helping you along the way. So I love how you said that. Thank you. And really that's what we're hoping to do with what we're doing with Seeking Center.

So That is so cool and so relevant, 

Noel: as you said, Noel. 

Lisa: Yeah. 

Noel: It was really that of service to yourself and then of service to others. That's. I don't know, collectively while we're here. And 

Robyn: a thousand percent well, and it's like what I love and from our own backgrounds and where we've come from, we all met working for Oprah and and when I say that What Oprah is and always has been about is once she [00:19:00] knows something, she wants to share it with everyone. And I think we take that nugget in what we're doing here. It's once we know something, we just wanna share it. We wanna help to make your life better. Just and that's reciprocal, right?

I think everybody that we come in contact, learns something, shares it, and then we all get to grow together. So that's very cool. 

Lisa: Yeah. Another one that I wanted to talk about was children playing a spiritual role in prehistoric cave art. And I think I'm mostly a little triggered by this, like from a parenting perspective, but let me just say so.  

They would apparently take children into, these winding pitch black ancient caves and low oxygen, dangerous, claustrophobic tunnels, all sorts of like maybe terrifying kind of situation. But they brought children down here to participate in these rituals or whatever was happening because.

These ancient communities believed that, and we've said a [00:20:00] lot of this, even in these times, children are closer to the other side. And the unseen. And so there's been hand prints and finger paintings left by little kids in some of these, like ancient caves, some as young as two years old. I don't know how they would know that.

Scattered among, abstract shapes and whatnot and footprints and hand impressions. And so these kids didn't just observe, they actively. Took part in this. And so on the one hand I'm like yeah, that makes sense because anybody even close to the WOOWOO world has heard children are, close to that kind of realm.

But on the other hand, I'm like, no, don't you bring those little babies down in that cave? What are you doing? You can't be doing that. There's exhausting. It's hazardous. It's unsafe. They're gonna be scared. Absolutely not. So I was like, I'm super torn on that one. Doesn't matter. It's already happened.

But I like just thinking about it like, huh, 

Robyn: sure. 

Lisa: My first instinct was, oh, that's cool. And then my second one was, Nope, that's not that cool. 

Robyn: [00:21:00] That's not safe. I know that's not safe, But it's interesting that even at that time there was a, knowing that is true, and I know we've talked about it.

In my own life, I've seen it. My daughter, a two and a half, was talking about my father that had passed away when I was 12 that she never met. And you talk about past lives, right? A lot of kids, they're still close enough to coming out of the womb. They remember where they came from.

They talk about something incessantly that they wouldn't have no knowledge about. So there just even in our own. Knowing in this lifetime. It's interesting to hear that in prehistoric times, they had that awareness and they were able to bring their children with them and make use of that connection.

I think it'll be really interesting as they study that further what they find and I love to tie that into today [00:22:00] because messages from spirit are timeless. Isn't that cool? No, I just hope No, all these children came out of the ca game Okay. With that's what I'll say.

Lisa: Yeah. So that one's a little weird, but yeah. Interesting nonetheless. And I think those are the big ones to go through. Oh. There was one that I put at the bottom in the little list of things, which I just thought was random and interesting, especially because you just talked with Sansan about dreams and this was, this might have been a New York Post article, so yeah, it's but this psychic says that different days of the week can help you interpret your dreams.

So interesting. For example, Mondays are. Like tied to the moon or something. And so it's revealing emotions and feelings like your dreams will really reveal emotions and feelings on Mondays theoretically. And then Tuesdays, it's more about actions to take to move forward with plans. [00:23:00] And Wednesdays your more, you will maybe get more psychic messages and ancestral downloads, and it goes through with every day of the week.

Wow. I have a hard enough time remembering my dreams, much less remembering what day they happened on, but this was just like an interesting framework. I'd never thought about it like that. I'd be interested to know what. San 

Robyn: Me Too. And actually San's gonna be on our Live with the Guide on April 30th, I believe, which is Wednesday.

Okay. And so I think we should send her this and then also ask her about it when we talk to her. I think that's really interesting considering that the tool that she's built, which is called Wakeful which is an app, she uses AI in there. And so I'd be curious if she has any of this info. So I'm gonna actually send her this article so that she can be ready to talk about it.

But also , they may have that in their system. I'm curious. 

Lisa: Yeah, that'd be cool to know. 

Robyn: Yeah, because the Wakely app, [00:24:00] what it is able to relay back to you once you input your dream it spits back. it really is like unbelievable. It will make your mouth drop to the floor and it tracks your dreams, I assume, right? So like you could. It does. And so it'd be interesting if you could then, if you did enough of them if it ended up lining up with this, because it does end up helping you to understand the emotion.

It does end up helping you to understand and or give you guidance to take action. So just even what you just mentioned, it does do that. And it is able to. Look at all dreams as a whole in order to help come up with some of the guidance it gives you. So I would imagine it could actually say this is what we hear on Mondays.

This is what we hear on Tuesdays on a kind of like high level. 

Lisa: It'd be interesting anyway. 

Robyn: Yeah. Okay. Good one. Good one. 

Lisa: A lot of woo news this week mostly 'cause it had been a minute since we had done it. So yes, we end up doing one [00:25:00] this week. it probably won't be quite as robust, but you never know 'cause.

I don't really find a lot of this stuff until you go digging for it. And these are all recent pieces. This is not like from years ago or anything. This is all within the last couple weeks 

Robyn: much prefer talking about this kind of news than what's going on in our world. So thank you for pulling this together and for all that are listening, watching.

We are excited to continue talking about it and when you see something, send it over 

Noel: and you can 

Robyn: post it right in the community. Post it in the feed. Yeah, post it in the feed. That'd be great. And we'll have these roundups in articles that will also be archived under on demand. So if we mention something and you don't see it in the feed, you can always look on demand.

We'll have a folder for those. 

we'll get going on that. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks.