Seeking Center: The Podcast

Human Design 101: Your Roadmap for the Soul (Chrissy Beth Hubbard) - Episode 206

• Robyn Miller Brecker, Karen Loenser, Chrissy Beth Hubbard • Season 2 • Episode 206

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Have you ever wished there was a map that could show you exactly how your energy works? Why you thrive the way you do, how you make decisions, and what’s truly aligned for your soul? That’s what Human Design offers—and our guest, Chrissy Beth Hubbard, is here to decode it all.

Chrissy Beth Hubbard is a Human Design coach who helps people reconnect with their authentic selves through their own unique energetic blueprint. Her journey—from people-pleasing and chasing others’ expectations to living with intuitive flow and purpose—will have you re-thinking how you move through the world.

In this episode, Chrissy breaks down:

  • What Human Design actually is—and how it blends ancient wisdom with modern science
  • The five energy types and how each is meant to move through life
  • How understanding your chart can shift relationships, self-acceptance & decision-making
  • The practical ways to start experimenting with your own design today

She even walks Robyn and Karen through their charts (and wow—she was spot-on).

By the end, you’ll know how to find your own chart and start living with more alignment, ease, and compassion—for yourself and others.

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Robyn: [00:00:00] I'm Robyn Miller Brecker and I'm Karen Loenser. Welcome to Seeking Center, the podcast. Join us each week as we have the conversations and we, through the spiritual and holistic clutter for you, we'll boil it down to what you need to know now, we're all about total wellness, which to us needs building a healthy life.

Karen: On a physical, mental, and spiritual level, we'll talk to the trailblazers who'll introduce you to the practices, products, and experiences that may be just what you need to hear about to transform your life. If you're listening to this, it's no accident. Think of this as your seeking center and your place to seek your center.

Robyn: And for the best wellness and spiritual practitioners, experts, products, experiences, and inspo, visit theseekingcenter. com We are so excited for today's conversation because we're diving into something that has truly helped both Karen and myself understand ourselves and each other on a deeper level. Human design, if you haven't heard of it before. Think of human design as a [00:01:00] roadmap for your soul. A way to understand how your unique energy operates in the world.

And there's no better person to help us explore this than Chrissy Beth Hubbard, a human design coach who helps people reconnect with their authentic selves through the lens of their own unique, energetic blueprint. Chrissy's journey took her from a life of people pleasing and trying to meet everyone else's expectations to one guided by intuition and aligned purpose.

We're gonna talk about what human design is, the different energy types. It identifies how it can transform the way you show up in everyday life, and how understanding your chart can deepen self-acceptance and compassion. And we'll even look at our charts. Chrissy read Mine.

And let me tell you, she was speaking to my soul. And when you hear a little more about how mine and Karen's work together, you'll see how this can make a difference in all aspects of your life. By the end, you'll know how to find your own chart and be able to start experimenting with your design. Let's get going.

Hi, [00:02:00] Chrissy. Hi Karen. 

Karen: Hi Robyn. Hi guys.. Hello. I love what you said in the intro, Robyn, about human design being a roadmap. For your soul. Who knew? Who knew we had that? It's it's such a beautiful thought. So let's start at the beginning,

for those who are brand new to human design, how do you describe it in simple terms? 

chrissy: Yeah. Thank you so much for having me by the way. And I will do my best to be as summarized as possible. And as Robyn knows from our last talk, I can talk a lot about human design 'cause I'm so passionate about it and I think there's just so much for people to dig into, but when we talk about what human design is, it's basically a system that is part ancient wisdom and part modern science. Coming together with a few different modalities that shows you what your energetic blueprint is. And it shows you who you came here to be. It shows you how your energy's meant to move through the world, how you best connect with people and learn [00:03:00] how you might have, how might you work best in relationships, and also how you make your best aligned decisions in your life.

So it's that beautiful mix of spiritual, but also very practical, which is what I love. I love that it's the system that gives us like a little handbook for who we came here to be truly. 

Robyn: And can you tell us what are those ancient modalities that are woven into it and. It is one of the newer modalities overall though, right?

When we talk about spiritual resources, 

Karen: I feel like we're hearing about it a lot more, but it's not one of those traditional modalities like astrology or tarot. 

chrissy: Yes. So Rah Arru is the founder of Human Design and he downloaded the whole system back in 1987.

So yeah it's definitely not been around for as long as many of the other modalities, but it does bring along astrology, the iching, the Kabbalah as well as quantum science, quantum physics, the chakra [00:04:00] system it's a beautiful blend and mix of, spiritual and science together.

And what I feel the power in it is that we do receive within our chart now the actual body graph chart. when you first pull it up, it looks like crazy time because it's so multi-layered. There's so many components, there's lots of little beautiful shapes and things and different lines.

And so sometimes the first time someone pulls up their chart they're a little bit overwhelmed. But what it does is once you actually dig into it, and even today we'll go through some of the things and anyone that's listening can pull their free chart and actually pretty quickly, you can apply practical, everyday tools to coming back to alignment, to coming back to that true self that's inside of all of us that we basically when we came out of the womb.

Human design takes this, what I would call like a , energetic snapshot is what I would call it. So what you were saying is true, Karen, like there's more and more people discovering it and there's a reason for that. It's because it's actually meant to help carry us [00:05:00] through into this next part of humanity and what we're moving through as a species.

And , I don't know if we should go deep into that right now, because that could be like a whole other topic, I'm assuming. I would welcome that 

Robyn: As another conversation, because that is speaking our language. 

chrissy: Yeah, because we talk about in human design something called the New Paradigm.

And so it's this global collective shift that we're moving into in the next year. obviously, it's slowly happening behind the scenes already, like energetically everyone's feeling it, the old way of doing things, old systems, like hierarchy of the way we live collectively is really shifting.

And we'll all feel that internally and we'll all feel that on the outside as well, energetically. And what human design is helping us with is that we each came here with a purpose like you, Karen, and you, Robyn, each came here to truly embody this unique design so that you can move through the world in a way that contributes to what world is meant to get from you.

So when [00:06:00] we're all actually coming back to our design, it's not just about you, it's actually, it's, that's what you were designed to be for the family around you. For the loved ones, for the people that you meet, for the strangers that you bump into and have conversations with.

But when we're not in alignment and we're living what we feel is the shoulds and what, we've been conditioned to believe in what society or family or school, there's so many conditioning layers that we're getting as we move through our lives from being little up until, even as adults, when we're moving out of alignment, we're doing no and any justice, and maybe it feels a bit easier and safer.

Because we're conforming, but I'm telling you that is gonna die away really quickly. And if you aren't living in your authentic truth, especially as move into the new paradigm, it's gonna be hard for you.

We didn't come here to just be a dull, sad little soul, which I mean, when a lot of people are living that way in this everyday moving from task to task and not really doing the [00:07:00] joy thing,

and so this is why I'm I'm going on my rant. This is why human design is so powerful because it gives you this map back, this compass basically back to what that is for each person. If we can open to it. 

Karen: Wow. I think so many people are gonna be blown away with the idea that they came in with a blueprint

Robyn: we talk about the blueprint for astrology. It's just taking to a different level, Yeah. 'cause . If you haven't heard of this idea of blueprint, 'cause we do talk about that With Stevie, who happens to be one of Chrissy's closest friends, oldest friends. Yeah. Which is of course meant to be, it's just idea of , the fact that there is an actual potential map back to who you really are. And one of the things that I talked to with Chrissy about was, does everybody literally have their own unique.

Chart just like astrology and Chrissy, you said Yes, 

chrissy: a hundred percent. Because we are gonna speak to the energy types, which there are five energy [00:08:00] types in human design, which is the first foundational thing that you'll learn about yourself. If you go pull your free chart. It's the first thing that you're gonna see is I am this.

I'm a manifesting generator, whatever you are. But underneath all that, so you might be, both Robyn and I are manifesting generators, so we have a very similar way of our rhythm of moving through life in the energy sense. But then there's the multi-layers of like our energy centers, .

So we have the chakra system, which in human design there are actually, it's evolved to be nine, not the seven that was originally. It's nine energy hubs. And so Robyn and I might have this beautiful similarity of manifesting generator, but also she's gonna have different centers that are open or defined.

She's gonna have a different profile, which our profile lines show us what's more of our personality, how do we come here to show up in the world, and how do we come here to relate to others and learn. So there's lots of different things in and amongst our charts

. So when we say everyone has a unique design, we're, seriously, like there's gonna be always [00:09:00] something that's very different in our charts, even if there's similarities, if that makes sense.

Karen: it does. It's if you're a Leo, you're a Leo's as your sun sign. There's Yeah. Where the moon was and where all the other planets were when you were born, that are gonna also exactly. Various parts of your personality, but to add like chakras and all these other elements to it.

Yeah. It just sounds so deep and. Enriching in terms of the amount of information that you can find? 

Robyn: It's true. It's like you have so many different modalities that it's pulling from in addition to whatever else was downloaded for this system. it seems very comprehensive to me.

Yes. 

chrissy: there's not a lot that's missed in it. 

Karen: It's all there. Can I just ask one other question too about, you're talking about the shifting paradigm. Are you saying in a way that this information has been downloaded because we're moving there and we almost need this map of ourselves now in order to be able to move forward collectively as well as [00:10:00] individually?

That in itself is a 

chrissy: pretty Wow, And that I think it's wild, the founder rah Arru, who he speaks to that. And when we first started the cycle that we're in now, we've been in since 1781. So that's 400 years, four centuries, whatever, do the math. And so it's a long time, right?

It's a long time of being in this one sort of cycle. And so now what's beautiful is that yes, he downloaded it and he started speaking to the new paradigm. Of course he's not alive anymore, but. he started speaking to it many years ago, way before, anyone would've even thought about what's happening in 2027.

'cause that's when he's predicted. that's when things have shifted that we're actually in the new cycle. And so the old cycle is, what I wanna speak to what you just said, Karen, is that the old cycle was all around creating systems, creating these healthcare systems, if you think about it, school systems.

It was all around survival and how can we come together as a society. So it was a [00:11:00] lot of it was a lot of let's conform to each other. Let's be safe with each other, and looking up to the leaders. So we think about the hierarchy and the politicians and things like that kind of feeling of big corporations and just really looking to the collective around how do we survive?

Yeah. How do we continue to evolve and get better? So it was absolutely needed. It was necessary. When you think of that time and how, in these that many hundreds of years, and as you can see we've evolved. We have evolved, we've changed. but there's still a lot inside of us that are still trying to break out of feeling that we can be our individual selves.

And that's what the human design system does for us. It actually says it gives you permission, which I think you felt a little bit Robyn when I was talking to you about your design is it gives you permission to be like, oh, actually I do know that. And I did come here to do that, but I was a bit scared because it feels a bit different than what I've been taught.

And so if different is scary to my nervous system [00:12:00] and my brain, Because it's trying to keep me. Safer. It's trying to keep me like the others because that's what we've come from. But so rah Ahu is saying no, that we're gonna use this system as we move into this whole new cycle it's very much about the individual.

And I don't mean that in a way that we don't still care about each other, but it's very much about your individual inner authority. You listen to your compass, you come back to your authenticity over anything else, which is not what we've come from. So to have a guide like human design and to check out your chart and to really tune into yourself because most people have forgotten.

 How many people are walking around, like very much in a different aura than they came here to be, and they're out of alignment and they're like, why do I feel so yuck every morning? But it actually becomes their norm, which is the sad thing. They wake up and they're walking around in this uncomfortable feeling.

Their bodies don't feel good to them, they're not in joy, they're not in levity, we did not come here to live that way. So as we move forward, we really wanna touch in [00:13:00] on, remind me who I came here to be and that's why I'm so passionate about it.

As you can see, like the system shows you, it reminds you 

Robyn: well, and that's why we're doing what we're doing. why Karen and I started working and building Seeking Center is to reconnect people to who they really are. And we've found that there are different modalities to get you there and different modalities will click with different people.

Yes. And so this the reason we're having this conversation is because we want to. Inspire people to go check this out because this may be what allows them to get back to what you're saying is that blueprint for authenticity and allow them to be who they really are. 

chrissy: Absolutely. And timing is always perfect, isn't it?

Karen: Oh, what you just said, speaks to me so much, and I think so, many of us, it's like you said before, it's easier almost to fall into that pattern of this is my routine and this is how I deal with it, and [00:14:00] this is the life that I have and I have created versus, but you can feel the difference.

Like we all know what it feels like when we're our authentic selves. We like, we shine. It just it's who we really, truly are. And people see us that way. People recognize that in us. So I can't wait to hear more. Can we ask Chrissy, like how did you get into this work? What made you decide that this was what you wanted to do with your life?

chrissy: Yeah, I'd love to share that. So when human design found me, I was just a new mama this was about over five years ago now, and I found someone just sent me something, you know how people just try that, check this out, la. and it was one of those like instant whoa, when I learned about, I was a manifesting generator and I was in a place in my life where being a new mother, I was already feeling a bit, not that I didn't love it, but it was it was overwhelming.

I felt a little bit lost because I have this thing in my hand, social media that's showing me, everyone's doing it pretty well. Everyone looks [00:15:00] pretty good at being a mama, and I did not feel that way. And I was struggling at the beginning, of course. And so I was comparing myself.

I was doubting myself. I was feeling really lost what is my truth? I wanna know my own truth. I wanna stick to my own wisdom.

I wanna truly understand myself because I've got this little person now that's depending on me to do that. So human design found me at that time I started to research myself. And because I've been someone who throughout my life has always done things a little bit differently and I haven't always followed the normal path.

And I'm a manifesting generator energy type, which I'll speak to more about in a minute. But it does mean that I have lots of innovative ways of doing life and I'm here to show the world as a manigen that there are other ways to do things and you don't have to stick to that same path that everyone else has walked.

You can make your own. And I did that even though it was uncomfortable often, and I meant to pivot often, and I meant to really listen to my sacral, my gut, my in the moment knowing. And so some of my biggest life decisions, like even moving here to Australia, I made that decision within weeks after knowing.

My ex-partner, [00:16:00] and see you mom and dad, see ya. And out, got on that plane and honestly those moments where everyone around me is what the heck is she doing? What is she even doing? Those are my most powerful, pivotal in potent moments and the best decisions I've made because it was when I truly trusted myself, but it doesn't ever make sense to anyone else.

So when I learned I was a manny gen, I meant to pivot. I meant to have these in the moment knowings. I was like, oh, okay. I'm not a weirdo. Okay, I've changed careers, jobs, locations. I've changed a lot. And I thought there was something wrong with me. I thought I was scattered of flaky, but no, I was living my design, but in an uncomfortable way because I didn't know it was truly who I came here to be.

I was raised in a really beautiful home, but it was religious. And I was really good at being a good girl and I was a really good people pleaser. And so I quickly at a young age, cut off my own inner wisdom. And I looked outside of myself always,

so it has taken years of deconditioning, and [00:17:00] I'm still on that path, ladies. Oh my God. Still doing it, recovering people, pleaser forever, right? Because it was just so ingrained. And when I found human design and I learned about my own inner authority, and I learned about my truth of how to make best decisions, aligned decisions, for me, it was a game changer.

I just felt so much more. And every day, I live it. Every day I experiment with it. I'm all about embodying it. Like you can know all the things, you can know all the background noise of what it's all about, but if you aren't living it, nothing changes. And so I realized that, and so I started to live it.

I started to apply it as a mother to my children. My partnership, me and my husband are like in such a beautiful place now. 'cause I get him, I'm like, 

Robyn: oh that's exactly how you can utilize it for yourself, but you can utilize it in understanding these relationships in your life. Yes. 

chrissy: So powerful.

Oh my God. It changed everything for me and my husband and me as a mother. that was my introduction and then I've just continued to embody it. 'cause it's an experiment. It's called the human design Experiment for a reason. You're just [00:18:00] experimenting as you go along and figuring out, oh, okay, I am still using my mind.

'cause we're all conditioned to use our mind to make our decisions. And human design says not is all in your body. The wisdom has always been in our body, but we've been conditioned that logic rules over the body. And as we move into the new paradigm, I'll tell you this, logic dies. Logic is not available.

It's gonna be energetic. So if we don't know what our truth and our wisdom is, it's gonna be hard. We're gonna feel lost. So that's my ver short, long version. 

Karen: just to clarify, when you say New paradigm, are you saying, I know you were talking about like these 400 years that came before, but this is the new paradigm defined as a timeframe.

Has he touched 

chrissy: it's a new cycle the only timeframe that's been spoken about. Quite clearly is the 20, 27 as we come into, and it will be, again, a long cycle. I don't know exactly actually 

Robyn: because you said it, ties in with astrology.

 I know from [00:19:00] Stevie actually. Yeah. That 2027 there is like something from an astrological perspective that starts and then, yeah. So it makes sense. That there is like that tie in. That idea, that major shift. And we'll be at the beginning of that major shift. 

chrissy: That's right. And the beautiful thing is, we have to all remember our souls went, yeah, okay. I'm gonna come. That's right. And I'm gonna be a part of this. So anyone listening your soul, put its hand up and went, okay, let's do that.

That looks cool. Let's come in while we're going through this huge collective shift into this whole new way of living. the babies coming through, the children coming through? And rah Arru who says time and time again, he said the human design is for the children because it's for the future.

Robyn: Because when we think about the fact that he downloaded that in 1987, Which isn't that long ago. and for it to then. Reach people in the way that it's starting to. It is for that younger generation and for us [00:20:00] sitting in the middle to Yeah. Shepherd that, and to make them aware of it. I think normal, when I say exactly. Robyn takes time 

Karen: And , what do you need to get your chart?

I know you said you can go to the site, but is it like astrology,

chrissy: yeah. So it's the exact time, the date, and the place. So those three things pull your human design chart. Good to know. 

Robyn: tell us some of those major types that you started to discuss. Yes. 

chrissy: Totally. So with human design there are five different energy types we call them. And what I would say about that is it means it's five different ways of moving through life, So again, we are taught that we should all move through it the same way, but human design will say, nah, that's not gonna work.

So we've got five different energy types and the first type I'll speak to is the generators. 'cause that's the majority. So when I say majority, it's about 37% of our population. So the generators are here and they have this beautiful life force energy, consistent energy. They're here to be like really moving [00:21:00] through, creating, building.

As long though, this is key, as long as the generator person is doing the things that light them up. As long as they're listening to their inner authority and following that, to take that path of the things that they're meant to master. Generators are here and they can really follow along with something for years.

they can master things, right? They're gonna take the thing they love, get passionate about it, and then they're gonna work on it and they're gonna build it every day. Every day. So when you think about team building, you think about business, you got a generator on your team that's lit up.

You are good to go. Your project, whatever you're creatively building is going to be well loved in the hands of that lit up generator. They will just keep moving through it. 'cause that's just what they love. As long again, as they listen to their authority, it might not be sacral, but often it is.

And then they also. Have a bit of conditioning around because they have this energy and people see that in them. They have this beautiful aura that magnetizes it's an open aura for the generator and it magnetizes things to them. And what they [00:22:00] want is they wanna magnetize all of their dream opportunities, Their dream jobs, their dream relationships, their everything. Dream, everything but they can only do that if they stay in listening to their joy, listening to what lights them up. And the thing about generators is they feel, because they do have the energy and people recognize that in them, that they say yes to things they should say no to.

They say yes when they actually said no in their body. So that people pleasing that expectations of others around them. Generator kids often get this quite young, that you should go and do this because you can't, you should do. And then so from early on they've got this conditioning and then they move through their adult life and they're like exhausted, tired, flat, bored, frustrated, because they're not moving through life with their joy.

Joy is a generator's key for like living an aligned life. So that's the generator. That's just a summary, obviously. Let's move on to the manifesting generators. They're about 33% of the population. So Robyn, we know you're a manifesting generator. So manifesting generators are beautiful hybrid [00:23:00] of two energy types.

So we've got the manifester energy type and the generator energy type, and it comes together to make this beautiful, fast, creative, multi-passionate being, which is a manifesting generator. And because they also have that sacral energy, that life force energy, they're great with the momentum. You're great with bringing the vibes, bringing the momentum, bringing the inspiration, bringing the energy, and moving it forward quite quickly, but in an innovative way.

So the manifesting generator might. Find other paths that the generator might not find because they're here to be a bit more do the weird thing, for lack of better words, man, gens are gonna, that, that, that would explain me. No. And take different roads and they're here to change their mind and pivot.

Often, man, gens master things quite quickly because they're so fast moving. They can quickly look at something, get really into it, and then after about halfway through that book, they're like, I've got what I need, I'm done. And then the other person next to 'em is going, but you just started that over there three weeks ago.

And they're like, done [00:24:00] it. I learned what I need to, I'm off onto my next hobby. And manifesting generators typically do have a lot of different things going on in the background. They might have three different businesses. They might, they might be mothers as well as learning how to crochet or whatever.

It's while they're baking sourdough,, having that variety is really key for the manifesting generator. Allowing a manifesting generator to have freedom to explore all the things they want is really empowering for them. They also need options.

So if you're asking a manifesting generator questions, it really helps to say, do you wanna do this or do you wanna do this? Do you wanna get sushi or do you wanna get pizza? Yes or no when you ask. because then their sacral can respond. That's their strategy in life is to respond. They have to respond to what the universe brings to them.

If someone asks them, Rob, what do you wanna do for dinner tonight? She's probably gonna sit there empty mind, empty sacral going, 

All: I dunno. 

chrissy: No, you just feel dumb. You're like, I don't, no, I have nothing to respond to. So that's a really helpful tip for a manifesting generator as well as a generator. 'cause they need to respond to something that is [00:25:00] 

Robyn: very true.

chrissy: That is very 

Robyn: true. 

chrissy: Yes. And they're not meant to have other people keep up with them. And what can be frustrating for a mani gen, is if they want others around them to stay on the same trajectory, which by the way, they can't. People can't. They need to let it go and just move through at their own pace.

And just let people know what you're doing and then go fast.

 Does that resonate, Robyn? Yeah, it 

Robyn: really 

chrissy: does. Yes. Yeah, 

Robyn: it 

chrissy: does. So then we have this is you Karen, the projectors, which make up about 20% of our population. And the projectors are here to be our beautiful seers. And the projectors are here to be the guides, they have a bird's eye view.

Projectors are always gonna see things in a very different way than any of the other energy types. And they're meant to, projectors are the ones that see into the other so deeply, so clearly. And sometimes that throws the others off, as in if you're walking up to someone, Karen, and it's like a new person to you, and you look at them and they're going, wow, this person really sees me.

And it can actually throw people [00:26:00] off, So the projector's energy it's really intense to others. Like it can be absorbing in a way and really piercing, but I'm not saying that in a negative way, just because you are meant to see, you are meant to see into the other.

So you do absorb the other's energy. So because you can see them so well it can be really big for projector to be out in the world. So what happens is that because you've been conditioned, often projectors are being conditioned to live like a generator, right? To live. Go. Keep going, keep doing the thing, make it happen.

And the projector energy ebbs and flows. Projectors are not here to just go do. It's not a hustle energy, not that any of the energy types are, but especially for a projector. Your wisdom and your guidance is best after you rest. After you give yourself space and time, and that is key as well, because you need to move away from other people's auras and other people's energies because you already do have that capacity to absorb and to see so deeply into the other, which can be really big.

So when you think about it as a [00:27:00] projector kid, if you were taught to go do all the things, you do the school, you do the afterschool stuff, You do the socializing. And it's not that you wouldn't maybe like that. 'cause I've seen your profile and there's parts of you that would magnetize people to you because of your profile, but genuinely as an energy type of a projector, you will thrive so much more when you get that time away for yourself, right?

And when you are just like alone in your own aura and you're just decompressing, if you will, your energy centers and just letting it all go, that would be key for a projector. So a projector, I would say they are so amazing to have on your team because they are going to be the ones they're so good at systems and strategy, and you are Karen in the depth of your design.

When I go deep, you're really good at the strategy. You're really good at seeing the systems and how to best organize things. And projectors are in general. And you have other things in your chart that shows me that you're extra good at it. But projectors to have a projector on your team is gold.

And to have a projector as a partner or a bestie or anything. I have a projector husband, and literally every day I'm like. [00:28:00] Can you tell me what's going on here? Can you show me the way? And so you do really well when you are invited and when you are seen and recognized for what your wisdom is, not for what you do, Karen, for the guidance that you offer.

That is your true value. And when you can feel that someone sees that in you and they invite you in, that's when your wisdom and guidance lands so deeply in the way that it's meant to. And it makes this huge impact on the other. Whereas opposed to when you push and force cause you're gonna see all the ways that they could do it.

And you like that. You tell that to them before, it's an invitation, it doesn't land as well. And you end up feeling what the hell? Why didn't they, take my advice. And you get resentful and bitter, which is the not self for you. So I always say it's like projectors. Allow your energy to ebb and flow.

Give yourself time to rest every day. Give yourself space. Don't back to back everything. You don't need to work like that. You're not meant to, you're not designed to. Sometimes people will say projectors are only meant to work three hours a day. I would say what it looks [00:29:00] like to me is when you're passionate about something, where you're excited about your work, you probably can go for a while.

So it might look like you work three days fully in a row, and then you take the rest of the week off, You just need those gaps. You need those times to stop. You need those times to put your phone down, no energy coming in. But also wait for the invitation. Wait for the recognition.

That's the projector way. 

Robyn: You just described to a 

Karen: D but what is so funny, Chrissy, is when you were talking about a manifester, I was like, oh, that's me. Because I'm sure you were saying about your life, I was so conditioned to be that. Of, the doing.

I get it. 

All: Yeah. Yeah. 

Karen: but Robyn knows and , I probably go too much. Yeah. But on the weekends I need to be off. I just have to put everything down, get off the computer. I just have to, my energy feels that, so 

chrissy: yeah, 

Karen: that's perfect. By the way, I love the way you are describing all of these different types because I've [00:30:00] read a little bit and seen, a little, but the description for each one of them feels so special and that everyone does have a role.

I think there's so many of us who are doers that are wishing I wanna be the manifesting generator. I wanna be a different type. Because we're conditioned that's the best better. Yeah, exactly. It's no 

chrissy: best. 

 Thanks for saying that because I'm glad to hear that because we are all so needed in this world. Your energy is a projector and your guidance is needed way more than you hustling. When you hustle, you do not do yourself, your family, the world, the justice that you know. Like it's not your true energy.

And so when you sit in yourself with your quiet and your peace, and you allow yourself to just feel into your wisdom while you're resting. And then you go out into the world and that someone who recognizes your true value, which is your guidance, your viewpoint, And then you get that invitation, and then things flow.

And [00:31:00] what many projectors that I've worked with have found is when they do find out, they first are like, what the heck? I don't wanna be a projector. Because even like the word, rah ru, who, he was a manifester, and so he came here to disrupt. And so He did. And if you hear any of his conversations, you're like, oh wow.

He's truly feeling that manifester vibe of like he's shocking us, But in a really powerful way. So he's meant to, but when we think about projectors, a lot of people, when I worked with them, once they actually allow themselves to come back to their alignment, to come back to resting, to come back to understanding that they don't have to hustle every day.

That actually more things start coming to them, more invitations, more opportunities. And their aura is more aligned. And what I said to Robyn last, I always get this image of like, when we are truly living our designs, , what I feel happens, this is my little imagery in my mind, is that our auras just light up.

And it's like the universe can't help but go oh my God, look at that person. Look at that. Or, and then the universe just starts sending all of the amazing things that you've been asking for because now you're a match for [00:32:00] it. Because you're in your alignment, so you're a match, and this is truly what I have found for my own life, When I'm really living my design and even when I didn't know about it, you guys, when I was actually looking back, when I was making those decisions that seemed really crazy, and they were actually my sacral, my inner authority, talking to me, and I listened.

Even though everyone's what is she doing? That's when I got those dream, whatever it was, dream, location, dream partner, dream, whatever, like becoming a mom. All the things. And it wasn't because I hustled or because I did the thing that everyone else did. It was because I was just listening to my inner wisdom.

So with the projector energy, just allowing yourself, if you're hearing this and you've been taught, which you probably have that your whole life, that you should, hustle work really hard. I'm not saying you can't work hard as a projector.

In fact, you can work really hard and you are so good at it because you know what you do, you work really hard in three hours, and you do more than any of us do in three days because you're so efficient. Okay? So you can work hard, but you don't need to do it the way everyone else has taught you to do it.

Karen: Thank you for [00:33:00] clarifying that because I think if anybody listening is a projector, and you are a doer, it explains a lot of, if I take time for myself, I feel like I'm being lazy. Like I'm . Not doing the right things with my time.

And yet on the weekends so thank you. I feel like I've been given permission and you also clarified for me as a mom, what I've learned to do.

chrissy: That's beautiful. that's my passion I work with mothers and just to help mothers understand themselves and then to help them to know what their kids' blueprints are. Because as the new paradigms, shows us like the kids are the ones they need to know, we need to allow them to stay true to their design as much as possible.

And you were saying it before Robyn, about like how we're the in between, and so I always say we're like the bridge, we're the bridge. The mamas are, 

Robyn: And we still have manifest to manifesters. 

chrissy: Yeah. Manifesters are about 9%. So they're a bit more rare and they're here to light the fires.

They're here to start the spark. They're leaders, they're initiators of big [00:34:00] movements things action. And they are gonna disrupt things. So their aura is called repelling. And it doesn't mean that they're like these, like scary people, but it just means that their aura is actually a little bit more closed off than the others, but for a reason.

Because they're here to be really independent, They're here to make their own way, and so they don't actually need all that outside noise or they're not gonna welcome that as much. Whereas some of the, like the generators of man gens especially are gonna be like, come in la and the manifesters are here.

I got my thing, I've got an urge. They get these big urges and they go and they're meant to go, but they're meant to inform along the way, which sometimes trips up the manifester because they're like, why i need to inform? But it actually makes it easier for them as they're moving through their days, as they're moving through their lives.

When they get these big urges and these creations and these movements and these, whatever it is that they're meant to be doing, the universe is telling them it helps to say to their partners or the people that they're working with okay, I've got this idea. I'm gonna go move with this. And then they go.

And then everyone lets them do their thing instead of interrupts them and what's happening? What are you doing [00:35:00] over there? La. Because the last thing an manifester wants is to be interrupted, to be controlled, to be told what to do. They need lots of freedom. They need lots of their independence, freedom, autonomy.

So this is key with kids. It's a big one to know for your children. And so if you are a manifester growing up in the generator world, you're also not meant to have this consistent energy like a generator or a manifesting generator. So you don't have that sacral energy, which means that your energy also ebbs and flows.

And you're gonna get these big bursts of creativity and you're gonna move faster than any of the other types. When you've got it, you're gonna be like, you are unstoppable. If it's something you're lit up about and no one's bothering you, no one's controlling you, You go, but then you have to rest, And then that's when you tap on your generator friend or your generator employee's children. and now you go, you take the rest of this all the way. So manifesters are really the starters. So in business, manifester amazing to have them as a visionary, To be the one to do all the things and to finish it. Not so much in their energy type. I'm not saying they can't do it 'cause they've probably been conditioned to do it, [00:36:00] but it's probably gonna be really hard for them. And their energy's gonna go, whoa, we're done. We started this, we need to have someone else help us finish it.

So that's really key for a manifester to know, but they're here to not be people pleasers and that's their deepest conditioning. Sometimes as kids they learn it really quickly and then as they're moving through their world and their life, they're wondering why they're always so angry, which is they're not self and out of alignment.

It's 'cause they're trying to please others. They didn't come here to please. They came here to be the wild, big forces that help us to change the world. I'm not saying they have to stand on a, podium and speak out loud, but they do have the throat center defined always. And they do use their throat in really powerful ways, even if it's, I'm not saying just in their homes as mothers.

So they're here to create the big waves and ripples. Okay. And then they let other people help finish that big project and they do not worry about people pleasing. If they can come back to their design, they release the need to please others. It's huge for manifesto. Once they let go of that, they're unstoppable.

Karen: Sounds like probably a lot of CEOs of companies 

chrissy: In the old and back [00:37:00] in the many years ago, it was always Queens and kings that were manifesters. Always. Wow. They were the rulers. My daughter is a manifester and she sometimes will joke, I don't know if she's joking actually.

She'll say you need to bow down and you need to, that's funny. You need to, she'll put on a crown and be, and I'm like, this was her back in the day. 

Robyn: Oh my goodness. Totally needs her. They need to know how to delegate, that's for sure. . 

chrissy: Especially if they have their own bi entrepreneurs. Totally. They can be entrepreneurs, but they need to let go of doing all the things. Yeah. Let's move on to our last energy type, which is the reflectors. So we're the reflectors are only 1% of our population.

 So they're very rare. So if we get to run into a reflector, it's really cool to have that, because I know they are very rare and often you may have already interacted with one and they just don't know that they are, that reflectors are here. They have a very open energy type, a very open and absorbing, and they sample everything.

They sample the world, they sample people, They're not here to be one thing. They're beautiful reflector for a reason because they show us the mirror of what's happening with us, but with the community [00:38:00] around us and in society. So when I did my study, I remember learning that reflectors were literally out of all the energy types.

If they were recognized for what they truly are, they are the wisest souls of them all. Because they came here to show us what's really happening in the world. If they're aligned, they're gonna be that mirror back to where are our issues as society, or where are we thriving in society?

A reflector in your business is gonna show you what's the ecosystem like in your business? Same in the family, Their environment is very important to them. They're not here to move through anything quickly, and their environment really shows them if they're not comfortable in their environment, it's not good for a reflector.

They need to feel nourished. They need to feel safe. So they might chop and change their environments as they move through their different energy. They can be a little bit like a chameleon. And so as a kid, they're probably taught that's not great. You need to pick one way to be reflectors did not come here to be one thing that is their actual superpower is they came here to be all the things and to show us the different ways of being.

So for a reflector, one of the things that they really have to learn is [00:39:00] that it's okay for them to take time with their decisions. They're actually meant to wait a full lunar cycle before they make big decisions. So it really undoes that training we've had of instant know it now right away, get the text back.

Reflectors need much more time than that. If we're raising a reflector, we teach our child, whoa, no, there's no need to rush, right? We can think about this, we'll give it a couple weeks, And they need to feel into all the different environments and energy types and ways of living and being in that decision before they come to their final choice.

But this again, is lots of deconditioning. So the reflectors are really beautiful. And sometimes, I've had a couple of reflectors that I've not worked with as a client, but just like people that I've, messaging me and things. And I always like to hear from them because they're the most open in their chart.

out of all the designs and energy types, they have a wide open chart. There's no definition. So if you can imagine walking through the world that way, how beautiful would it be to have that support early on to, have a parent or someone that loves you that knows. This person needs a lot of alone time.

This person needs [00:40:00] nature time. This person needs to decompress. So that's 

Robyn: yeah, it's a little 

chrissy: bit the reflectors. They're very powerful beings. 

Robyn: Thank you for telling us all of these different energy types, because I think when people go and look up what theirs is now, they have your expression of them you help make everyone feel special. And that idea of coming back to that authenticity, when you start to listen to what you just said and read also the descriptions that you have on your site. You do feel special and you do feel seen, 

Karen: It helps us accept some of those places that we've been trying to change. Yes. To be acceptable in the world and to be judged as successful and all of those things that we think we should do.

it brings us back to actually admiring and accepting the things that are really who we are. 

chrissy: I always feel like it's the biggest permission slip for us to just dive into those places that we were told not to be this way, not to say those [00:41:00] things, not to look this way.

And it's actually, your little kid self knew and you know when you think of yourself as a little kid, like she knew for both of you. She knew who to be. She was there. Sometimes it makes me emotional. Think about the little inner child self is like, oh, little Chrissy knew.

And now it's like I'm finally, it's like full circle. Okay, now we're coming back to my joy and my weirdness and all the things and just accepting it. And so I do hope that if someone listens to this and they've been told they're meant to be this other way, that they give themselves permission to truly be who they came here to be before the world told them something else.

Robyn: And for someone who's curious and they go to, which we're gonna have your site in the show notes and we're gonna. Tell people where to go, but what can they do once they find out, what their chart looks like? What would you say then is the next step?

chrissy: The next step would be, I think what we always look at in when I do one-on-ones is that everyone wants to know all the things, right? Because that is fun. and it's such a beautiful journey to go down [00:42:00] that with someone.

But then I always say, you know what your homework is? it's, you learn your energy type and you start to move through the world with that awareness. You learn your strategy and your authority, and if you start to apply those three things, which I'm not saying that's easy, woo, I'm done.

Like it's a practice. It's an experiment. As I said before, when you start to apply those three things to your everyday life. Which you will find that the mind will immediately tell you, that's not good. That's not safe. why are you using your body? You should be using me. The mind is the biggest spin doctor. But that would be my first steps. For anybody that's new to human design, look at your energy type. Start to really learn and understand it. Read about it every day if you can. I still look at my own blueprint and I'm like getting a little bit maybe lost in someone else's energy or the world's advice or social media telling me something, 'cause it's always telling us something. Come back to your blueprint, look at your strategy. How are you meant to make things happen or move through the world? I'm meant to respond. I'm not [00:43:00] actually meant to be like a manifester and go force and make something happen that's not right. That's the same for all of us here on this call.

None of us is meant to go out there and even though we've been told by society, go do it. Or what's Nike slogan? Just do it . Yeah, like that's for the manifester, but nobody else, for you, Robyn, it's wait to respond. Wait for that response from your sacral, listen to your gut.

What does your gut say? Is it yes? Is it no for you, Karen? It's wait for that invitation, that recognition. Are you seen by that person? Does that person value you? And then did they give you the invite? And you can feel it's genuine. They genuinely see me. I will accept your invite. Yes, I will. we could dive into this for 300 more hours, so we won't do that.

 and then for reflectors it's can you wait? Can you sample the world and then wait for that true answer to come. And with the manifester, it's allowing yourself to tell others before you go off and do the many cool things you're gonna do. Can you inform them first so that then they won't pick on you later and try and figure out what you're doing and they won't interrupt you so much.

And you could just go with your flow and your [00:44:00] force, right? So there's just all these beautiful ways that when we learn our strategies, which I was just speaking to, and then our inner authority, which is very powerful tool, so each of us has the inner compass and I can speak to Karen's if you'd like, but we know Robyn you had a sacral as well?

Yes. Okay. So sacral authorities , like you have the in the moment knowing. You actually know as soon as someone asks you, do you wanna do this or this, your sacral will tell you, but your mind tricky will come up and say, oh, but you probably should do the other one.

' cause that one's a little bit more acceptable. And that one people will like, it'll look better, blah, blah, blah. But it's if your body tells you that's the answer. 

Robyn: And can I just add to that? Because I tell people stuff all the time where we'll get on a call with someone and I get an immediate immediate, immediately, 

chrissy: no.

Robyn: Yes. And I will get off and, I'll say to Karen, no. No. And or yes, and Karen's but why? Why? And I'm like, I can't 

chrissy: explain it to you. There's no why. If you start to explain it, it's not from the body.

If you can explain it, I always feel if I can explain my answer to [00:45:00] my husband, 'cause he's like, why? We have a property, we've got people that always wanna come and live here, la and I'll meet someone and be like, no. And I'll hear the word no in my head. Yes, me too. . And he'll be, yeah, I remember we said that.

We both heard that. Yes. When it's a strong no, it's like someone's in there going, no, and then husband, no. And he's like, why? And I'm like, Nope. That's not a question. We've ignored it before you guys, and that doesn't go well. always a consequence. And you always learn the hard way. So let's talk about Karen. Your authority is self projected. So this is a little bit unique, self projected. It's a projector authority. And what it comes from is in listening and hearing yourself speak to others about the decision and not just anyone, and not someone trying to give you advice.

Karen, it's speak to others that you trust that are just able to soundboard and listen. And what's happening is you are speaking out loud about the thing and you're hearing yourself speak, and the power for you is in hearing yourself speak about it. You're gonna actually hear your [00:46:00] tone of voice. You might even be saying to Robyn, oh yeah, I really I just got off this call.

I really like this person. Seems like they're really good. But you can hear in your tone of voice, you're like, I actually don't really wanna do that with Oh my God. That 

Robyn: happens to Karen All the time. All the time. 

chrissy: Wow. 

Robyn: Yeah. 

chrissy: So it's about self projected. It's coming back to what's right for you, cause.

Your G center, which is one of your centers, is defined and that's all around your identity. And so it comes back to that with this authority, it comes back to hearing is this me? Is this really sound like me when I go through this decision? Is this right for me and my identity and myself, and my direction?

And that's what that voice and hearing yourself, I've heard people say if you don't have that trusted person nearby and you really need to speak about it, you can do into a voice memo and then listen to yourself. but I find that it's really helps to just have that other person, either on a call or in person, And it might be with more than one person, Karen, you might need a couple of people that you trust to hear yourself speak about it, and then you'll [00:47:00] know after a few conversations, you'll have made your own decision. So that's a little bit different, right?

Than what? Robyn came here, how she came here to make decisions is so different than how you did Karen. And so it makes sense that we're all a little bit confused because we're all being told to, even out there, it's trust your gut. And it's like the poor reflectors out there who are meant to do a lunar cycle, they're like, trust my gut.

they don't have that. And same for you, Karen. Trust your gut. it's not so much in you to do the instant in the gut knowing, People who have emotional authority are, that's more of the population than any of the other authorities. And they need at least 24 to 48 hours, they need time to move through their emotional waves before they make a set decision.

So their best thing is to say, give me 24 hours that text message. I'll message you back tomorrow about this. Or in two days. Not an instant decision, like a sacral authority. It's not better, it's just different. 

Robyn: , Don't you think that's life changing? Actually, if you can understand that about yourself, 

Karen: it is.

Oh my gosh, it's, [00:48:00] yeah. And you're gonna just start to recognize people All over the place. 'cause Robyn, you are always like, hell no. It doesn't take you a good second. 

And she'll probably make 

chrissy: sounds because well, she's very guttural because it comes from your gut, Robyn.

And I'm always like, there're these sounds that come out of us. And you're like, true. I good. Listen to them. And then Karen, you can listen to them because she's gonna be giving you cues on when you're running your business together. One of the best things you can do is hear Robyn sounds like, hear her.

Like when she's hell no. Ugh. Yeah. There's gonna be I

Robyn: do 

chrissy: that. I do 

Robyn: that.

chrissy: Oh. 

Karen: Robyn,

Even in calls. She can have a beautiful smile. And I know I always know you 

Robyn: can feel her. I 

Karen: can. Oh, she does. She does. Because I can, 

Robyn: because I'll know right then and I'll be like, I have to just this has gotta right now. 

chrissy: And 

Robyn: I Oh yeah. That's so true. 

chrissy: it's hard for you, Robyn, because you get that right away.

And so the tricky thing for the mani-gen done is, and now I have to sit here for freaking 50 minutes with this. And what a waste of time. 'cause you're like, I'm done. Let's do the [00:49:00] next thing. That's the tricky thing for a mani-gen 

Robyn: But 

Karen: you get me, Chrissy you really get me.

. I can't wait to say . Go do everybody in my family.

Robyn: in relation to that. The idea now that I can better understand you, Karen, for not only and your authority. Like now understanding that helps me know that there are some things where you do really need 24 hours or whatever it is to really think about it.

Where before we're conditioned to be like just go with your gut. Just make the decision. And my husband's also a projector And now understanding it makes so much more sense to me, in the way that he processes and the way like all the things.

chrissy: Yeah. So what's beautiful, I was looking at you guys with like your beautiful mix of the two of you together with your partnership.

And it's really cool you both just came here. Karen, you really came here to guide others and to lead. That's a huge thing for you. It's one of your biggest gifts. So when we look at our charts as you guys have said, yes, [00:50:00] I will speak to it in a positive way. Of course, we all have conditioning and shadows.

How can we not? We chose to be humans, we took divine energy and coupled it with our human energy. So of course we're gonna have these wild, crazy other things that happen in our lives that we make choices and we have to learn the hard way, I've done it. You've all done it. But also we did all come here with superpowers and gifts and we wanna lean into them.

So for you, Karen, I was just looking at your chart here, you've come here to be a true guide and a leader. You are a very deep listener. That's what I see. In a way that you listen and you'll have lots of people tell you lots of things, they'll tell you about their stories and their adventures and you probably don't even know. . But you're meant to, you're meant to take all these stories.

And even your own and kind of piece it together and it becomes the wisdom that you offer the world as well as being this natural leader. And you're really intuitive with giving direction to others. So that's where this natural intuitive guide for others and being also just like that trustworthy [00:51:00] person because you are a projector and because , some of your gifts here are around being very logical and actually with the systems.

 And just being able to strategize and really shape the business. You have this beautiful way of guiding your partnership and guiding , the seeking center and not that Robyn's not guiding, but in a way the projector is the one that's gonna see so much the big picture viewpoint.

And , as long as it's invited by Robyn, which that's your cue, then Robyn is, how can I work best with Karen? What's valuable about Karen is the guidance and not all the doing, not that, Karen, you can't do, you can do , we know that you can hustle, baby, but is that the best for your alignment?

No. But if Robyn can recognize and see you in this way, then you're gonna shine in your collaborations together. And then if you can see Robyn and you can trust in her gut responses. And I'm not saying this means like her opinion and her gut decision has to overrule your self projected authority.

I'm not saying that, but [00:52:00] because everything's in the gut for Robyn. Everything is her strategy is to respond if you can respond to her excitement, because when Robyn's excited, the momentum will be there for the seeking center. Am I right? 

Robyn: I think that's how we work, Yeah. I think we don't even realize that is it really is. is. 

chrissy: Because you've got Robyn's energy, action, inspiration, momentum, all the things the mani-gens coming through. Let's pivot, let's go over here. Karen. Beep. And then Karen's let's just take a moment and I'll share with you where I think that we can, yes.

That's actually, and then let's organize 

Robyn: it this way and let's organize it that way. And . You need that balance actually. 

 It's 

Karen: a good balance. 

chrissy: I think honestly, I'm a mangen and my partner is a projector, and one of the things that people will say is is Are certain energy types better together? I don't think there's any certain match that's better. I do feel though, that when each person understands the other's design, this is key. So you understanding that Robyn does need to [00:53:00] move fast and she's gonna get those gut decisions.

 And she needs excitement and joy. Like you understand that, Karen, just knowing that, having that awareness, it's everything to me. then same for you, Robyn, like knowing that Karen, if you see her hustle, you're like, oh, okay, we gotta shift something up here.

We gotta get more space for Karen to have deep rest, have deep thought time with herself, so she can then tap into the guides and the wisdom and the bird's eye view and the strategy and things like that.

Also, I haven't shared this with you, Karen, but you're a three, five profile. So you actually did come here to experiment and do all the things, babe, like as a three line. That's the experimenter. So throughout your life, you're gonna be someone that has very much like life is school.

 someone might be like, Hey, do you wanna go and learn this in this course with me? And you're like, no, I'm.

Robyn: That is so true. 

chrissy: No, I'm just doing it right. And then because you have the five line, you have a very magnetic energy and it's a very save the day energy. And You have creative problem solving [00:54:00] skills in ways that other profile lines don't.

So it comes together as this beautiful mix you become this relatable guide. And since you're already a natural guide, this is gonna be like twofold when I look at your design, on top of each other. These layers of being a guide and one that's so deeply, like people can really feel you because they've been there too.

You fall on your face. It is not failure, it is wisdom, Because then you just jump back up again and you're like, oh, okay, that one learned that and now I'm gonna go do this other thing. 

Robyn: That's so true. 

chrissy: Oh my gosh. And people are gonna want you to help them. 'cause line five is very save the day.

It's actually a really big part of your chart is like you love to help others, you want to support others. The shadow site is, let's have boundaries. 

The boundaries are key for line five.

So it's right for you to experiment Karen, and you will do it for the rest of your life, babe. You are meant to learn from life and fall down and then get up again, and then you show people your wisdom coming through the experiences as you get older, you're gonna become even more wise in this [00:55:00] and people are gonna turn to you not just from projector energy, but from that profile line as well.

That's just one aspect of your chart that I thought I would share. 

Robyn: I think that was important to share from like a divine perspective. Like I think she needed to hear that outside of us, hearing that from you is really on purpose today. 

Karen: It's so funny too, Chrissy, because Robyn and I we do a lot of time jumping into the future of where we're going to be with Seeking Center and I keep seeing myself as the older hippie lady hanging out in our seeking center world, what does give me joy is when people do come and ask me for Advice and you're right, I love to be able to help and support other people. Yes. That's literally the vibe that I see myself in, 10 years from now is just being in that kind of energy.

So that's 

chrissy: perfect. I love that. It makes me happy. That's so perfect. That's absolutely you. That would be so perfect if you weren't doing all the doing and you could just be the advisor. Yeah,

Robyn: that's the thing. I think [00:56:00] Karen has really. Like we all have been conditioned to do. When it's not necessarily in alignment with who she really came here to be.

so it is something to really pay attention to. there's so much more to understand and discover about human design. And just like you just talked about, Karen has a profile that has numbers associated with it. We all have a different profile.

And understanding that profile, in addition to understanding these energy types 

All: and 

Robyn: really also. Allow you to reconnect with who you really are. 

chrissy: It's another layer of just knowing, your authenticity and really owning it. And like I said, just embodying it.

And that's the beauty. The universe is always guiding us. We have this part of us, inside of us that I won't go deeply into, but it's called the magnetic Monopole. And it's actually this magnet that's actually guiding us where the soul and the universe is wanting to pull us, which is our deeply aligned path that our soul came here to do.

so if we could [00:57:00] tap into even an essence of our design and start to move down with that magnet and just actually follow the pole of our heart and the pole of our design 

we have no idea how amazing our lives could be. If we could allow the infinite possibilities to unfold based on our strategy and authority, I'm telling you right now, if anyone's listening, your life is going to absolutely change in the most amazing ways possible.

It's magic. 

Robyn: We could talk to you for, oh, we have so many more questions. honestly, Chrissy, this is, I think has probably been so exciting and eyeopening for a lot of people listening.

And I am sure that they cannot wait to go to your website, 

chrissy: my website is chrissy beth coaching.com and Chrissy is C-H-R-I-S-S-Y beth coaching.com.

And on the first page you get to, you can pull your free chart. And also I have lots that I share on my Instagram, which is at Chrissy Beth Hubbard, my full name. [00:58:00] And I'm really passionate about guiding anyone. And also I've had a lot of mothers come my way. So for me, I've created course that's called Mothering by Design that you can also look at on my page as well, if any mamas are interested.

I'm really passionate about helping the mamas to support their children. But yeah, I do one-on-ones where we do readings and there's lots of other free things that I have that you can dive into. I have a free masterclass as well that I do.

 I love to talk about human design with anyone who's interested. 

Robyn: And can I ask you for the on-demand course that you have, would you say that is for your child at any age? 

chrissy: Any age. I've got mamas in there they've got newborns and then I've got mamas in there with teens.

And actually I had a woman in there who was doing it for her grandchildren,

there's no wrong time. It's always divine timing. When you find human design, if you feel any pull towards it, I say follow that because it's there for a reason and it's not just for you.

It's often for the people around you as well. 

Robyn: That's the thing is we didn't even get to, you heard a little bit about how Karen and I can use it in [00:59:00] our working relationship, and you started to talk about how you use it in your family, whether it's with your marriage or your kids, but like this can be used in so many different ways and I think next time we meet, we'll talk a little bit more about that as well.

in the meantime, please go check out chrissy beth coaching.com as well as her Instagram and not only find out about who you are, but I would really consider either doing your on-demand course or working with you one-on-one. 'cause I think it can really change your life.

 

chrissy: Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Transformed my life. 

Robyn: Thank you so much, Chrissy. We cannot wait for more conversation and to collaborate more in the future. 

chrissy: thank you both. Beautiful to connect with you. Thanks for having me. Thank you.