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April 2026 Tarot Forecast: The Shift Is Here—Now What? (Michelle Nolan) - Episode 225
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After a whirlwind March that pushed, stretched, and maybe even shook you a little…April arrives with a different energy—and a big exhale.
Intuitive tarot therapist Michelle Nolan is back to guide us through what’s unfolding now—and spoiler alert: this is the month where things start to make sense. The clarity, the nudges, the uncomfortable growth? It’s all leading somewhere.
In this episode, we’re breaking down the energetic shift into April, what the cards are revealing, and how you can move forward with more trust, intention, and alignment (even if you’re still a little nervous).
If March felt like the ride…April is where you find your footing again. And maybe—just maybe—start to trust where you’re being led.
WHAT WE'RE COVERING
- Why March felt so intense—and what it was preparing you for
- The major energetic shift happening as we move into April
- How to recognize (and move through) fear instead of getting stuck in it
- The message behind “the door closing”—and why it’s actually a good thing
- How to trust yourself even when you don’t have all the answers yet
- The next step your intuition is quietly asking you to take
KEY TAKEAWAYS
- You’re not imagining it—things are shifting right now
- The fear you felt in March wasn’t random—it was revealing what’s ready to be released
- Awareness is your superpower: when you can observe fear, you stop being controlled by it
- April brings movement, clarity, and a renewed sense of trust
- The Universe may be closing doors—but only because you’re ready for what’s next
SOUL WORK FOR APRIL
Try this simple check-in Michelle hints at throughout the episode: When something triggers fear, pause and ask: “Am I in the fear…or can I observe it?” That small shift changes everything.
You have the reference now—you can see the fear instead of being in it. - Michelle Nolan
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Robyn: [00:00:00] I'm Robyn Miller Brecker and I'm Karen Loenser. Welcome to Seeking Center, the podcast. Join us each week as we have the conversations and we, through the spiritual and holistic clutter for you, we'll boil it down to what you need to know now, we're all about total wellness, which to us needs building a healthy life.
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Robyn: And for the best wellness and spiritual practitioners, experts, products, experiences, and inspo, visit theseekingcenter. com. It's that time again. Our soul sister and intuitive tarot therapist, Michelle Nolan, is back this time with your.
April tarot forecast after everything that march. Stir up the movement, the clarity, maybe even that little nudge [00:01:00] or push from the universe. We're stepping into a whole new energy, and if you're feeling like things are shifting, again, you're not imagining it. April is where we start to see what all of this was for.
Michelle is here to break down what's unfolding now, what you're being asked to do next, and how to move forward with more trust, intention, and a whole lot of intuition. Let's get into it. Hi Michelle.
Michelle: Hi Robyn. How are you?
Robyn: I am very excited and maybe a little nervous about what the cards are gonna say.
Michelle: Fair. That's a fair statement,
Robyn: They've been very bold. It's
Michelle: been intense.
Robyn: Yes.
Michelle: Intense. I don't know about you, but March was such a different energy, and I think all that fear triggering stuff was very real. Like just surrender surrender, and just. Be in for the ride
Robyn: big time.
It really felt like a ride.
we were talking about this before we got started. February and March both.
Michelle: It's [00:02:00] just been very direct and sharp energy in very different ways each month.
Very different. Yes.
Robyn: I felt really pushed. I go back to that whole analogy and visualization that you've been using, which is that door is closed and it's because we're ready and we're being told to move forward. But I keep wanting to go ask some questions and they're like, Nope, you've got this.
Keep moving. And sometimes I'm scared,
Michelle: I know. Yeah. I think we all are. I know personally , I was waiting since we were approaching the Equinox and this kind of final shedding, right? It was really that finale. I was holding on being, okay,
what's the last thing that's gonna drop? Right before we started into April, which to me is really the movement now, so I'm sure it's happened to everybody, in their own
way.
And the way we ended March was there was the Star card and it felt like a hug and it felt like a prayer, and it felt like I could breathe for a second and now it's [00:03:00] okay. I'm ready.
Robyn: After what felt like a very up and down kind of month with lots of overwhelm. . It just has felt like a lot. And yet there is some. Closure going into April.
Michelle: Yeah, and I think since we talked so much about fear for March, and I noticed myself reflecting on that a lot as things would come up. And I would say to myself, yeah, I really am starting to recognize what scares me the most. you're just getting faced with it in these little triggering ways and it's when you are aware.
You have the reference now you can say, okay, see it. I observe it. I can observe the fear.
Robyn: That is so true.
Michelle: instead of being in it.
Robyn: Yes. I hope everybody listening can identify that as well.
Michelle: so it was a little bit of a, A intense ending, but also a deep surrender.
And so I think April, has this true [00:04:00] spring feeling, we are finally really ready to blossom.
Robyn: All right. Let's see what the cards have to say.
Michelle: All right, let's get into it. Spirit, please open this session.
For the Seeking Center community and for everyone and anyone who is listening, and please give me clear and concise messages for what is you wanna speak with them about today. And please allow all of us to have an open heart, an open mind to receive these messages. And we thank you for your guidance and your protection and your connection today.
Okay like I said, coming off of March was this finale, you look at it like that, the finale of the shedding, the finale of maybe anything that was holding us back in a very fearful way, at least observing where we would feel that fear, Where we would feel scared, where we'd feel overwhelmed as you said, and where we would feel like we, we weren't sure we were moving [00:05:00] forward.
I think that was what was happening in March and coming into April. It is first starting with this Eight of swords. so the eight of Swords is this feeling and this is just starting April, where. This is the mental imprisonment. when I looked back, at the annual forecast.
And when we talked about this second quarter, it was the mind, It was the shifting of the mind, And how our brains are really working now. it's funny that I brought up the word observe because when we get to a spiritual space, and this is what I usually try to teach people about, when we're in constant communication with our five D self, we start to be able to observe our mind, We're not in our mind. We're observing our mind. So that is the true essence of embodying any spiritual work or presence, is that we know that consciousness is [00:06:00] outside of ourselves, And it is not our brain, not our mind. So I think the very beginning of this April, we are recognizing our own mental imprisonment.
We are recognizing where we feel stuck in our mind, where we feel like we are being maybe overly fearful, cautious, or we think we have no options. That's really our mind cycling through. How fear usually works for people, meaning that I've done something before, it didn't work out, and now I'm just gonna repeat that same pattern and I know exactly what's gonna happen.
And when we shift into a more conscious place with our spirituality and then embodiment, we learn that we can break that pattern, We learn that we can break out of that hamster wheel of knowing that. this is just my mind replaying [00:07:00] exactly how I've done things before. So the beginning of this month, even though the Eight of Swords has a little bit of a stuckness feeling to it, it feels to me more positive in the sense that we're able to observe it instead of being like, Nope, I'm stuck.
Nope. I guess I had a lot of hopes for myself this year or the changes that I was going to make or the progress that was going to happen, and now I'm not as excited. This is the part we're observing.
Robyn: And I would just say too, it makes me want to bring up. For people, if you are more interested in even diving into that a little more, look up any work by Eckhart Tolle or Michael Singer.
'Cause that can help you really understand what you're talking about in that observing of the mind, of our consciousness, of our thoughts. And that can help shift the way that you are living on a daily basis.
Michelle: Yeah. In essence, , when you're balancing what fear really is, And that's [00:08:00] really the tail end of March coming into April, right? Because it's not as abrupt as a switch is. We're starting to see what's available to us to fix and change, What's available. So with this eight of swords, and then I have the King of Pentacles. And the eight of wants. This is very much how we're talking to ourselves.
What does the communication look like for progress, for your thinking, How do you speak to yourself and what is actually. Going to push you forward because the eight of Wands is very fast moving. Okay. And the King of Pentacles now wants to build. He's okay, I'm ready to go.
I'm ready to build something. I'm ready to actually make things solid. I'm ready to progress out of a fear-based state, out of feeling stuck, out of feeling limited. And. The annual forecast in the second quarter was all about this perspective shift and fast judgment calls on what was [00:09:00] limiting.
So if we think of this beginning of April, as I really feel like this King of Pentacles is stating very loudly, I know what I'm building now. So when I observe myself not in that mode, I can quickly change that pattern. I can quickly change it. So the king of Pentacles would have no excuses.
Okay. Would have no excuses for what he or she ' cause it doesn't matter gender here, what he or she would want to create and build. He would find a solution always. So there is a very quick judgment call on when we're something feels limited, we ask ourselves, how do we solve this?
If something feels like it's going against what we're trying to build, how do I change it? So observe the mind and then change the mind. what this is about in the beginning, because even though it's a thinking based, energy. It's way more focused with the King of [00:10:00] Pentacles on this actual physical solution.
What's the physical build? What do we really putting energy, effort into so that we don't feel stuck so that we don't feel limited or that we have barriers.
So it has like a 3D element to it for sure. It's not just in the thinking, it's in the solution so that we are changing and then acting on it.
that is this very fast processing for this beginning of this month, observing change. Observing solve. Observing. That's old. is this in reference to what I'm building now? No.
Yes. No. it creates these kind of boundaries and almost this, barrier for direction. cause, the King of Pentacles is very strict with his practicality of what works, I know something is gonna work, so I'm gonna do this part doesn't work. I'm not gonna do it.
That's how that feels to me. All right. So it does have an element. I'm also picking up [00:11:00] on. And I've had this hint throughout, this whole year about resources. so resources usually means time, money, effort. If we think of those three things and. So there is a stability element here that's really important.
Do we have enough resources to create the build? Do we have enough resources to create the change? Do we have enough time, energy, effort to go into this direction? The king of Pentacles would care about that, So this part is a little bit practical, So he's not, again, scared about the long haul.
He's just wants to make sure that it is solvable.
So that's the beginning, the middle of this month. we have this four of Wands, king of Swords and the eight of Pentacles.
A lot of very real world stuff happening here. This is reality now becoming. if we're looking at our mind [00:12:00] in the beginning, we're saying our mind should match what is showing up in our reality.
So what we are believing and thinking in our mind and trying to solve in our mind, and observing in our mind, that's fear or not fear, we want it to also show up in our real space.
So the Four of Wands very much is about that foundation and this King of swords. Because he's almost just as practical as the King of Pentacles. He has a no bullshit attitude, He is very logical and decisive about where resources go. So again, this feels very real world to me. So where your time, where your energy, where your money, where your expectations where that goes should be.
Linear, decisive, and I will be say without feeling because what I'm picking up here with this ace of cup, In the block is the king of Swords. Doesn't want to get emotional about the [00:13:00] buil He says. I've done a lot of that work. we've been purging, we've been going into these depths for a long time as to how we feel and what does fear look like, and what do I need to remove and all of this stuff. And now he says, I just wanna get to it. let's create this foundation.
Now We know. We are acting from a place of intuition. We've already figured that out. When we talked about in the annual that this place right here in the second quarter is about, we know we got rewired. So that's why that observer effect, being able to observe the mind becomes almost a second nature now, We can observe our fear, we can observe where we're limited, and now we just do a workaround really quick. And we are decisive, absolutely decisive because we're not wallowing in any feeling of the fear and we're saying. Yeah. We're gonna keep moving here and create this foundation and [00:14:00] we're just put the effort in and we know it will work out as we're building.
Robyn: It's like we've done the work,
Michelle: we've done the work of the purge. Yeah. We've done the work at all that hermit last year that we keep talking about. We've done the work at resetting. Resetting ourselves, so our internal. Machine operates differently and now we're just turning on the machine.
Let's let it run, let's just push the button and let our mind work in our favor now. Yeah. Instead of work against us. Because before I think it would not work in your favor. You would be. Closing a loop on a pattern that kept happening.
And now you're like, new pattern.
we've loaded in the computations for that algorithm. So if we think of it that way, we're just running it It's ready to do the work
Robyn: it's forward momentum.
Michelle: Yes. And foundational. This is very foundational momentum.
Yeah. Because what I see here with this, four of wands, it's saying I'm just setting all the groundwork up here [00:15:00] because that King of Pentacle is starting off. April says, I need to have a plan. And then the King of Swords comes in and says, I'm the executor of that plan.
It's very fast though, like atypical, I would say, to what I would usually get with a king of Pentacles, because he's usually slower. But with this eight of wands next to it, it tells me the speed, It tells me that his plan has been ruminating in the back of his mind for a long time, and now he like, yep, I figured it out.
I got it. Let's execute. So he's in that stage, And he is running the show, I would say. But it's almost like he's encouraging that king of sours to do what he does best, which is stop thinking and just do it. We've already Just run the program.
Robyn: It's so interesting because. When you hear the astrology forecast, it really matches everything you're talking about.
Michelle: Really. Okay.
Robyn: There's [00:16:00] some major shifts that happen within the beginning to middle of April. That are everything you're talking about. It's we're ready and now this is gonna happen now.
Michelle: Yeah, like now. So what's interesting too, because I always pick up on this kind of flavor of. The tone is very masculine. And now I know people get a little confused because at tarot it's a little different with what that energy really means and having this masculine energy tells me that it's very externalized, We can see this now in our physical. Reality and it's action oriented. Masculine energy wants to use that energy outwardly, We're not in reception mode anymore. We're in projection, that shows usually effort. That usually shows direction, that shows drive, that shows, a little bit of curiosity because we are almost, like I said, running a constant, very fast moving thinking [00:17:00] machine that is no longer staying in a cycle. They're observing when something is stalling, and then the computer system says, remove that.
And then we move forward.
So There's a coldness here. I think I'm feeling because why the block is this. Ace of cups is, we just came from one of the most feeling months.
Robyn: Yeah,
Michelle: right. pisceab months are. That is all in the realm of The heart, the emotion, the purge, the ethereal, and this is nope.
Reality. Reality, not emotion anymore.
Not feeling, doing.
Robyn: That's the Aries feeling of. Fire and action
Michelle: right I am getting this combination that's maybe a version of Aries, which is, when they do their best work, it's when they are not scared. When they are just in a mode of [00:18:00] doing, We can think about it later. We can fix it later. We can process it later. Just do, just go. to me, that's the element of Aries. That always is what gets people moving, and it also fires people up and lets them make mistakes.
Robyn: And then what I'm feeling also is this feeling of the Taurus. Which is foundational. Which is practical. There's this,
Michelle: yeah, there's a very practical element here. And that to me, it's real impractical.
Robyn: to me it ties into that, which is also part of this month.
Michelle: Yeah. I'm getting really strong, even though Aries is a fire sign, and like I said, I'm getting like an elemental piece of Aries. Yeah. Even though that's fire. But I'm getting this, the earth and air, so I'm picking up on, like I said, this solution oriented, strategic logical build that's fast and not.
Circling around in feeling anymore.
Robyn: we've done that.
Michelle: Yeah, we've done [00:19:00] that. We've done a lot of it. Like too much of it probably.
I
Michelle: agree. So that's why I love that this eight swords is here in the beginning of the month.
Because the King of Pentacles is almost responding and saying, oh yeah, I know there are limitations, but we're gonna find a solution for that.
So it almost. reinforces our ability to push through obstacle. That's really what it's reinforcing. We've created the pathway for that now. Fear isn't something that kind of holds us back, or we have to circle the drain on and keep repetitively doing the same thing.
We can say, okay, we can find a different solution for this and then work around it.
the way I'm even feeling this energy, the way I'm talking is if I was sitting in a boardroom and we're not even talking about the emotion of something big happening.
We're just saying, okay what's our solution? Bring something to the table and let's make it happen.
Robyn: That's a great visualization. Okay.
Michelle: That's how it feels to me. I remember saying at the end of March in the last reading [00:20:00] is that we've gotten okay with fear.
This feels like that type of person.
That, yeah. I know things could fail. Yes, I know there's risk. We know all those things. We're not talking about that anymore. What we're talking about is what we're doing now. We're doing about it.
Robyn: what comes to me too is that we all agreed to be here in this lifetime right now, and we chose and signed up to be here at a really strange time.
And a really challenging time. And we're all equipped to handle it. And so we've been through so much and continue to go through so much. Collectively and then personally. And so to me this is you got this and let's go.
Michelle: Exactly. And I think it's the challenge, 'cause I always like to bring this up, what's the challenge for this month? The challenge, interesting enough is the heart space, The challenge right now is to not. Soften Is to not get to this place [00:21:00] of, ah, this person over here or this nostalgic thing over here, or it used to be this and now I feel this.
Not getting all caught in the emotion of what they're wanting us to be is logical now. Decisive. Don't get caught in the emotion. Get caught in the excitement that we are solving a problem.
so the end here, I'm getting this so earthy energy, like you said, moving into Taurus for sure. Nine of Pentacles. nine of cups. And. Awesome. 10 of Pentacles.
Robyn: Wow.
Michelle: That is awesome. I actually love this energy. So if I was sitting in that boardroom, if we were directors of the board right now, how this shows up is, wow, we are gonna be.
Extremely successful. Everyone.
Robyn: Woo.
Michelle: Congratulations. Yay.
Robyn: Alright,
Michelle: let's
Robyn: go with that,
Michelle: If we just [00:22:00] navigate that very first part in the month, which observes the limitations, observes the risk, observes the fear, and says, great. I know it's there. Let's solve the problem.
Nine of Pentacles is a very independent energy.
And then the nine of cups with that really tells me that here is where this algorithm, if we're talking about this new machine that we've become this energetic spiritual machine that hopefully we've tuned into is that our. Abundance our success,
what we want to actually physically get out of something. We know now very clearly it is coming from our energy of feeling. The abundance within it is coming from that, It doesn't come from what's given to you. It doesn't come from obstacles that you circumvented.
It doesn't come from listening to fear and then not doing [00:23:00] something. It comes from I energetically know what I deserve. So there is no limitation. There's no limitation because this 10 of Pentacles is the full treasure chest.
this is the everything, So if we look at this in a very practical way, because all of that earthiness with the Pentacles is very real, is if we're using this in our 3D life, let's say you just had an interview for a job and we were contemplating what kind of offer.
Am I going to get you think from this company? And you'd say you're talking with your partner I wonder what they're gonna give me. And if your mind is saying, oh yeah, I'm gonna get probably at least 20 X my current salary, then that's what you'll get.
So the idea here is that. Once we really embody this energy, when our mind commits to that level of success, that level of abundance, that level of the [00:24:00] all, whatever that is for you, your reality exists in alignment with that.
Robyn: That's powerful,
Michelle: So if you start feeling any version of that.
Limited thinking, which is this eight of swords, that's also what you will get back.
So this is such a huge opportunity. I think in April, it looks like it's presented like an opportunity to run your mind differently.
Think way bigger than you've ever thought.
Think you're limiting yourself. So I'm gonna push past that comfort zone of what feels unnaturally comfortable.
And I'm gonna say, oh no, I want more than that. Or I can do more than that.
Robyn: And I feel like this has built upon these last several months and all of last year.
So you're ready. Remember that like you are ready to [00:25:00] believe,
Have these thoughts , you have the ability to embody and do this.
Michelle: Yes, this is like a golden ticket. This feels to me April is the golden opportunity, the golden ticket to whatever you're presented in this month that pushes you outside your comfort zone and makes you realize that you can ask for more or be more, or expect more.
This is the universe saying. Let's see if you really believe it. because your actions are gonna show it.
Robyn: That is really encouraging is what I would say.
Michelle: It's encouraging, and I think what we'll notice with everyone that's in the space or wants to be aware of the space is you'll absolutely notice where you've been limiting yourself.
Because you'll notice other people might say to you, I just had a conversation. It's funny with one of my friends last night, and she's really good at finances and I was asking her a [00:26:00] question and about some of my personal finances and she gave me a number and I was like, that sounds huge.
And she said. It's not, that sounds huge to you. That doesn't sound huge to me. And it's like that, right? Yeah. It's like where you notice yourself, you're limiting yourself.
And when you start thinking differently, that's when the reality changes very quickly. That's why I think this is the golden ticket of opportunity to see where you're limiting yourself.
Push past that comfort zone and say, I deserve more. Because when we set that cycle in for the rest of the year and moving forward, your brain now has that logged.
And your brain can run that program really easily in the future.
Robyn: that is so good.
that's a perfect way to end today.
Michelle: I think so too. I want this,
Robyn: I want this, and I really hope if you're listening to this and it helps you share this episode with a friend, because I feel like it's the message that everybody [00:27:00] needs to hear right now. At this time in their lives, in this world.
So let's put this energy out there for each of us because we do deserve, we've worked hard to get here.
Michelle: Very hard. And I think it's a pullback on kind of the spiritual. Spiritual embodiment, In like being in that place of surrender and embodying that and saying, okay, if I'm in full trust mode, now I am running a different program and I'm just going to execute it.
And then what happens is our 3D person, our brain, our consciousness that we're using internally. Has changed and will change when we continue to make these
different choices.
Robyn: Yes.
Michelle, thank you. Welcome for guiding us throughout the year and for April especially.
If you would like to work with Michelle one-on-one please email her [00:28:00] at m@mtnolan.com. You can also find her within the Seeking Center community, which you can find out more at the seeking center.com, and stay tuned for May. We can't wait to hear what happens in April.
Thank you.
Michelle: Thanks, Robyn. Thanks for having me.
Robyn: Thank you.