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But also, to see"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1902.7,"endTime":1907.53,"body":"the depth that a publication"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1902.7,"endTime":1907.53,"body":"which you know, traditionally"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1907.53,"endTime":1911.37,"body":"probably was only thought of on"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1907.53,"endTime":1911.37,"body":"a very superficial level. And to"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1911.37,"endTime":1915.6,"body":"see that he's made it a"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1911.37,"endTime":1915.6,"body":"publication of such significance"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1916.32,"endTime":1918.81,"body":"is absolutely a credit to him."},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":1919.71,"endTime":1923.22,"body":"Unfortunately, we"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":1919.71,"endTime":1923.22,"body":"have to start wrapping up. 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I"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1968.56,"endTime":1971.86,"body":"think that it's applying"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1968.56,"endTime":1971.86,"body":"technical resources for social"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1971.86,"endTime":1977.2,"body":"good. I think that also it's"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1971.86,"endTime":1977.2,"body":"leaders, using their platform to"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1977.23,"endTime":1981.88,"body":"unite communities internally and"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1977.23,"endTime":1981.88,"body":"externally. It's technology that"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1981.88,"endTime":1986.44,"body":"seeks to protect the public."},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1981.88,"endTime":1986.44,"body":"It's in it also its diversity at"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1986.44,"endTime":1992.83,"body":"all levels. I think that we need"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1986.44,"endTime":1992.83,"body":"more visible examples of people"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1992.89,"endTime":1999.94,"body":"in roles where historically, we"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1992.89,"endTime":1999.94,"body":"have not been there. I think all"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1999.94,"endTime":2005.94,"body":"people need to see these images"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":1999.94,"endTime":2005.94,"body":"where we are exceptional, rather"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2005.94,"endTime":2011.67,"body":"than being an exception. And in"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2005.94,"endTime":2011.67,"body":"my view, you know, that's"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2011.67,"endTime":2014.01,"body":"really, you know, what the,"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2011.67,"endTime":2014.01,"body":"what's that's really tech"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2014.04,"endTime":2016.89,"body":"culture going forward. And you"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2014.04,"endTime":2016.89,"body":"know, I hope it doesn't take 10"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2016.89,"endTime":2020.4,"body":"years to get there. But I think"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2016.89,"endTime":2020.4,"body":"we're making great progress. And"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2020.4,"endTime":2022.95,"body":"I hope that we continue to see"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2020.4,"endTime":2022.95,"body":"this sort of new face of"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2022.95,"endTime":2023.67,"body":"technology."},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2024.429,"endTime":2027.579,"body":"Well, that's all we"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2024.429,"endTime":2027.579,"body":"had for today. Thank you very"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2027.579,"endTime":2030.939,"body":"much, Cecilia and Caroline for"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2027.579,"endTime":2030.939,"body":"being able to join us. I'll take"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2030.939,"endTime":2034.719,"body":"this opportunity say goodbye to"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2030.939,"endTime":2034.719,"body":"everyone that's listening and"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2034.749,"endTime":2038.859,"body":"for yourself to be able to also"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2034.749,"endTime":2038.859,"body":"say your goodbyes on this"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2038.859,"endTime":2041.319,"body":"podcast. I really have to say"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2038.859,"endTime":2041.319,"body":"thank you very much for being"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2041.319,"endTime":2042.279,"body":"able to join us."},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2042.72,"endTime":2045.06,"body":"Thank you"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2042.72,"endTime":2045.06,"body":"Cecilia. Thank you Caroline and"},{"speaker":"Cecilia Harvey","startTime":2045.06,"endTime":2046.38,"body":"Mario, I really appreciate it."},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2047.26,"endTime":2049.9,"body":"I thank you very"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2047.26,"endTime":2049.9,"body":"much. Well, with that said, that"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2049.9,"endTime":2052.27,"body":"is all that we have for this"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2049.9,"endTime":2052.27,"body":"episode. Thank you very much for"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2052.27,"endTime":2054.88,"body":"joining us. And please be on the"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2052.27,"endTime":2054.88,"body":"lookout for next episode of high"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2054.88,"endTime":2058.03,"body":"tech local podcast, where again,"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2054.88,"endTime":2058.03,"body":"we'll feature another guest and"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2058.03,"endTime":2060.31,"body":"approach another topic of"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2058.03,"endTime":2060.31,"body":"extreme importance in the tech"},{"speaker":"Mario Cunha","startTime":2060.31,"endTime":2061.72,"body":"world. See you soon.soon"}]}