WWWT: May 2026

Oscar and Carl discuss what they watched this month!

1:40mins Hoppers

6:20mins To Die For

11:21mins Good Luck, Have Fun, Don’t Die

18:40mins A View From The Top

22:52mins Widow's Bay/The Boys/Hacks/Sex and the City

36:05mins The Mighty Wind

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My name is Oscar. My name is Carl. This is Who Would Watch This? Welcome to podcast for different. It's cozy vibes, Carl. It's cozy vibes. We've got a new concept. Yeah, okay, here's the thing. So normally it's Who Would Watch This. Same acronym, WWWT what we watch this month. And that's what we're doing. And it's a cozy vibe. And that's how we've been doing it, and we made it cozier. We decided when we're doing the podcast it's the studio, but when we're doing this segment, it's a couch. It's casual, it's cool. We've rented an entire studio, recreated what your couch would look like at home. We're buying a new couch every month. We've got that level of money now. Yeah, it's very good. I love wasting money. It's a rush by knowing. And in this economic time, there's no better way to use it. Yeah, 100%. 100%. A little char was like, can I have some food? I've got no couch money for next month. So get the hell away from me, little orphan boy. The things I've had to give up in my life, so I have couch money. But that's the sacrifices you make when you've got a podcast. When you're a podcaster, times get tough sometimes, and that's what we need to do. Uh, Carl, we are chatting about what we watched this month. Yep. Um, how are you doing? How are you feeling? Good, good. I I feel like I've I've had an okay run of some movies this month, so I'm pretty excited to talk about some. One of them's kind of relevant to what we were doing as this month was Versus Month. It still kind of is. We forgot that everything would need to be done in pairs. Yes. We picked four things and that's Tagutarian. Yes, Versus Month will continue. It'll continue. And you know, we'll probably have to stretch it for another month. Yeah. But time tough, time tough, time tough. Did a bug's life, uh, which is Pixar. Uh, I finally got around to watching the new Pixar movie Hoppers. Yeah, great. And I'll be honest, I did not know uh that Hoppers was a Pixar film. It looks very DreamWorks coded. I think just gophers in general are dreambooky. Very dream worksy. I think it's it feels a little bit more dreamworksy than a Pixar film. But I thought this was one of their stronger ones in a while, especially for one of their original pitches. I thought this was better than Elemental. Yeah. Um, it's very fast paced. Uh it's also very funny and very likable. And I think a little bit more adult. Gotcha. There's definitely a real threat of mature themes, you know? Not mature themes, I think it's sexual-based stuff. Yes. Uh it's I think it's has a real proper thread of violence. Cool, good. Like a whole lot of. I thought Soul was lacking in the killing. That was my job. You're right. I thought we were gonna get there too. Because they are ghosts, and so you go, well, surely we'll see a murder. Yeah, surely. Maybe a brutal exorcist. I feel like Onward had the violence and blood I was expecting a Pixar. But I really think they dropped the ball, you know. They absolutely did. What do we think is the most violent Pixar film? Probably the Incredibles. I think Bug's Life, isn't it? They kill that. The Thinking Ants. Oh, many of them. Your thinking Ants. I always am, I always am. Yeah, so if you don't know the plot of Hoppers, Hoppers is about a very excited uh student who is very pro-nature, um, and she decides to hop into uh a robot beaver. This beaver allows her to communicate to all animals in all walks of life. So you are explaining Avatar to me. Yes, and they also call that out in the film. Okay, cool. Uh and it is to actually stump. Oh, damn. I was just like, um, actually, uh channel's like another movie plot at the fact that because I was like, we already did that. We already did that. We know we're ripping off Avatar, but we're doing it better, and they fucking did it. So it's absolutely okay for them to do that. Damn. Do they do the tentacle thing as well? Do they have a bit about that? No, they don't do that. Then I nailed it. There's a real funny sense to like the fact that oh no, there's just really good comedy throughout the movie. Uh, she has to go and communicate to all the animals to basically come back to a certain dam so that it doesn't get bulldozed down to turn into a road. Uh, and the something unfolds because of that. Uh, and I personally feel like recently with Pixar movies, you feel a little bit ahead of what's happening. Yeah. I don't think Pixar's lost a bit of the edge of we're constantly sort of turning it up so that we're ahead of you. Yeah. Hoppers, I think, was ahead of me, which I thought was really fun. Is it pro road? Is it you know that is that the twist? I don't want to give it away. All right, fine. I don't want to give it away. Uh but yeah, I think it it where the movie ends, I was surprised how much ground we covered. It was definitely so happy to be moving through time really fast. And I think there's like a bit of a uh a Rick and Morty sense to it where it's saying we're gonna be a little bit more ridiculous than we have in other Pixar movies. And so yeah, I don't know. I was really into it. I think it's in their top like top half. Oh, great. And then at this point now, that's great. Yeah, it's a top 15. Yeah. There's 30 Pixar films now. Isn't that nuts? That does feel nuts. I mean, it has been around for about uh yeah, 1985, so over 30 years. Yeah. Wow. So I'll film a minute, uh film a year. Yeah, film a minute. Immediately bad enough. What would you give Hoppers, Carl? Uh I'd give Hoppers a 3.5 out of five. Now, we are on video. Do you want to do a funky transition? Oh, we can do a funky transition. I mean, this is on you, so you know. I forgot about that. Don't give me, don't give me a hardball. No, no, no, Carl. I think alright, three, two, one. Now on to the next segment. So you can add whatever you want there. Free ball. All I know is effort. Guys, check out the YouTube or Spotify because Carl's done a lot of good editing. That's right. I've all I've done is airbrush me. I look great. You're glowing right now. I look really good. In comparison to Oscar, I look incredible. I've got wings, I've got shit going on, I look sick. I look good. I've got there's not a pore inside. In terms of Oscar, I didn't even. Porcelain dolls freaking me out right now. Shut up, Paury. I didn't even colour correct your side. You're gonna look like shit. I've got to look well balanced. I've liked balance. If you think we know how to colour correct, or honestly, it's been five years, and I think we've still not good at the audio. Oh god, no, you're absolutely right. I add a crackle. Uh, Oscar, what did you watch this month? Carl, I jumped into a Gus Van Sands uh classic because he's got that new film coming out, uh The The Wire Boys, the Wire Boys. I'm very close. Dead Man with a Wire. Dead Man with a Wire. Dead Man's Wives. There's a bunch of wives and the men and they're and they're doing things. He's got a film about it. It's apparently it's apparently a hilarious time at the cinema or on Netflix. So yeah, no, we're we'll we're going out, we're going out. But then I watched uh to die for, which is Nicole Kidman, I think mid-90s. Uh the premise is that she wants to be uh famous, uh famous presenter at any cost. Uh and it's sort of this like a famous presenter. Like a sort of news presenter, you know, sort of they keep uh mentioning like Barbara Walter. And I don't, and I I vaguely, I feel like that's like I have a vague idea as to what that is as a reference. I feel like I watched Network and they have that sort of similar Barbara Walters at one point was like, I guess on the on the news, it was like, I'll go to a country and I'll figure the whole thing out. I think she did stuff with Vietnam, I think. Again. So check out this podcast. We know our stuff, but that's her aspiration, and she's gonna get there at any cost. And it's a real fun I I I like these sort of 90s films, they're sort of a bit earlier, sort of critiquing television, because their sort of doom and gloom is just like this generation's fucked, and they all want to be famous. And I it's still very much present, but just seeing how much like the internet has evolved all those things, yeah, just crazy. But the pla it's very, very campy. Like Nicole Kidman's got her makeup done, her hair done like the whole time. Like she's always looking presentable and very famous. The general she wants to get famous at any uh any cost, so she sort of she starts uh going to the local school to try and you know make a faux documentary. Um and I won't spoil it, but it kind of goes off there. But it's got uh walking Phoenix, Casey Affleck, just a bunch of like up and comers of the 90s and a really campy romp. It's quite fun. Yeah, well, I mean that's very have you ever seen a Gus Van Sant film before? No, I don't think I have. Oh well, uh Goodwill Hunting. Yes, that's right. I forget he did that one. He's got like what he's got that just just got that one good one. Yeah, he's nice and just like that's like an audience. I feel like that's a a classic one. That's his crowd pleaser. Yeah, I've seen my own private Idaho, which is good. I do want to see that. It's with um River Phoenix and Keanu Reeves, and then um I've seen his remaker psycho, his shot-for-shot remaker psycho, which is crazy. I've seen I've seen many YouTube videos breaking that down. Yeah, it's insane. Vince Vaughan is it, yeah. That's true. It is nuts that they were like, Vince Vaughan's our new, our new guy. You go, is he? He's our Bates guy. Everyone's everyone's been saying he's the Bates fella. Yeah, when everybody was watching Swingers, they were like, this guy would make a good baits guy. He is an odd one because I feel like Vince Vaughan, in my mind, is like so like comedies of the 2000s. I forget at one point he was kind of a heartthrob. Look, I'm I don't want to I don't want to throw any accusations out there. I don't think I've ever been attracted to Vince Vaughan. I don't think I've ever seen it for a dodgeball and every film since then. Well, yeah, well, Dej. Well not obviously. But no, I feel like he is he's not like real. Like I've never seen him not pay not a I feel like he's still a bit of a douche, but now he's like an everyman douche. But he's he's our POV, so we kind of love him. Well, he's I mean, he's always stood out to me in Jurassic Park 2. In Jurassic, was it the Lost World Jurassic Park? That's the third one, I think. You're talking about the one with the one where he's in it with Julianne Moore, and you're like, why is Vince Vaughan here? I think he steals a show. Yeah, it's the dinosaurs and it's the Vince Vaughan. When you think Jurassic Park, here's the thing. Here's the thing. You think dinosaurs, you think Vince Vaughan, and then you think Jimmy uh Fallon in a ball. Yeah. That's sort of the that's the Jurassic Park uh tier list. Vince Vaughan's got a weird sort of career path at the moment because I think a lot of his movies are like, I I come in and I make someone feel good about themselves. Do you ever watch Nunnas? No, I have I've been begging to watch Nunnas. I've been keen to watch Nunnas. When you say that's his trajectory, I don't think I've ever seen another film other than Well of all of his movies are always like, I made someone feel good. It's like in Dodgeball, I made all those weirdos feel good and like they had a home. Yes. You know, like in a lot of his movies are just we've made someone feel good. All I'm thinking is like the internship. Didn't they make all those nerds feel good? They made all those fucking nerds feel great. I'm thinking of like Starsky and Hutch as well. Well, no, he's the villain in that. Yeah, yeah. But he's actually there to make people feel bad. Yeah, no, exactly. But he's trying he's a drug dealer. In fairness, fantasy trying to make people feel good. Business is making people feel good, you know. So yeah, I guess Vince Vaughan, big fan. Yeah, yeah. Anything else from Gus Van Sand you're looking at watching? I want to go with Pri my Private Habit, Idaho. Yeah, okay. That's on the list. Yeah. Uh but no, today I four was really fun. I thought it was really campy, had a really fun message of I guess just uh fame obsessed uh and the lengths people go to in quite a silly way. Uh and yeah, it was very fun. Lovely. What are you gonna give it? I'd give it three and a half out of five. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, that's very good. Pretty good, huh? Carl, what else have you been watching, huh? What else you been flicking on the on the on the little on the little box, the soap box? His name. Which is Good Luck, Have Fun, Don't Die. Not Rango 2? Not Rango 2. As much as we all hoped and prayed. Maybe people were trying to. So all we wanted. Yeah. He's got Pirates, he's got that little lizard guy. I think he did the Lone Ranger. Which is very good. It's very good. People love the Lone Ranger. People thought, although at the time people were like, I don't know if Johnny Depp can play this character nowadays. Everyone's like, you know what? He should have another go at it. He should have played both. The same. We why didn't he get the army hammer roll too? What was the one with it's got like a little droplet on the it's like cure for wellness? Yeah, cure for wellness. Yeah, nailed it. Yeah, I on I didn't realize the Gorefield uh film. That's the yeah, he's hit them all out of the park. I hadn't realized how much I like him. Yeah. So I've seen every one of his films, which really shocked me. I mean, I I think it's just cure, I guess, uh the cureness and uh but I love Rango. Do you big are you a big Rango head? I don't know if I'm a big Rango fan. I feel like it's really uh blown up. Uh I'm not even joking. I feel like uh on like a like a retrospective people are very much enjoying Rango. Well, because I think it looks great and I think it feels different to most other animated movies. Uh, but I I remember not being super entertained by it. I mean, entertainment's not what you're after. It's the fear. Rattlesnake Jake. I mean, come on, Carl, that's terrifying, you know. It's an abstract film, you know. I remember like the the cameo with like Clint Eastwood that isn't Clint Eastwood. Yes, I can't remember, yes. But they're like they're like, we tried to get him, and I'm like, and you still went ahead with the cameo. He's got a raspy voice, kid. As a kid, I was like, that's the thing from Back to the Future. Tick. You know, I I wasn't I wasn't miffed they didn't get Mr. Eastwood involved, you know. But yeah, no, you've seen all his films. Uh, how how was this new one uh fair? Yeah, so good luck, have fun, don't die is about a diner. Uh man, we really need to get better at summarising these. Should really write them down. Yeah, we should, but not my job. Yeah. Here's the problem. People go, guess what? I watched this film, and then people go ask a question. Normally uh tell me the first 10 minutes. You know what we shouldn't have done? Sat for an hour prior to recording talking about film as well. We spent so long talking about obsession backrooms and not covering them. No, no, of course. God no. I feel like it's about to come out to move. I mean, we've got honestly, the next two weeks are intense movie watching. Uh honestly, this was a bit of like a cooldown to ramp up. It really was. Um, but yeah, good luck, have fun, don't die. Is about a diner full of people. Sam Rockwell comes back in time to the diner and he says, We need I need about a team of five to six people, uh, and we need to try and stop AI taking over the world. And we can only do that tonight in this one moment, and who is with me? Yeah. Uh, and nobody raises their hand. And then he sort of badges people, and a few of them raise their hand. And it's about what has happened to those people in their life leading up to that day that's made them say, I'm happy to raise my hand and die to stop technology taking over. Yeah. Uh, and he's gone through everybody in the diner so many times, and he knows that the solution is here. He just has to find the right combination of people. Is he groundhogging day? Is that what Sam or So he's groundhogging day, but we're seeing the mission. Yeah. So we're not going back and forth to the diner. Once we leave the diner, that's the the mission's going, and it's really about almost three very, very clever, sort of technology-based Black Mirror episodes around the people that have raised their hand, uh, and how they all intertwine in what is likely to be the end of the world. Yeah. Uh, and I think the movie loses its grasp a little bit and gets a little bit too silly, which is something I think Golvavinsky happens to him. I think it happened to his. He's a silly man. He's silly man. He's very silly. He did it in a cure to wellness, and I think he does it here. I think this movie comes back together okay, though, at the end. But the first two-thirds of it I thought were very fun. Very funny. Uh and I don't want to give any like I will actually I will just give a little bit away. But one of them is about a mum whose son dies in a school shooting, and when she's there, like waiting for the body, all of the other mums like arrive and they're like, first time, and she's like, What do you mean? And they're like, just go and get another one, and like reprograms him basically fantastically, just go get another kid. Damn. Um, and that like cycle is just so fun, yeah, and it is very dark, but I think it is handled in a really palatable, funny way. Uh, and there's a lot of moments like that throughout the movie. So I think it's one, I think it's a movie that's greater than the sum of its parts. Uh, and I would recommend it. And I think it sat with me really well. I think I like it more today than I did the day I watched it. Cool. Um, so I'm gonna give good luck, have fun, don't die, three and a half stars. Carl, we probably should do this one for the podcast. Um, however, watching it without having to do it for the podcast was very enjoyable. I did watch A View from the Top. Have you heard of this one? I've heard of it, but only through you and Richard Awadi. Hells yeah. I did watch this uh movie for the book that Richard Ayowadi has written. He's written essentially a Citizen Kane-esque analysis of this film, and I thought, you know what, I'll check out the film and then give it a go. Unfortunately, I don't think the book goes into the production because that's all I want to go into. Carl, I'm gonna spoil, I don't care, it's not really a spoiler of the film. I'm gonna I'm going into No, don't spoil a few from the top. I'm going into every single thing. Gwenet Paltro is essentially this just this little being in the world that is just like, I don't want to be here. And my only exit strategy is become a flight attendant. She watches someone on Oprah become a flight attendant, and her mission for the rest of the film is to be a flight attendant. And not only a flight attendant, a really goodish one. And I pretty compelling. Pretty compelling. You know, it's nice to see a film tackle struggles that genuinely people might have. Yeah. Just really low stakes. Yeah. Um, this film feels incredibly liminal. There is there is there is there is people that pop into the frame. Like at one point, um Mr. Austin Powers himself is there. Really? And he has a he has a long 50-minute segment that is just very funny, but the film does not is not a comedy, other than that part. Rob Lowe's in it, for a scene. And I think, oh, he's the he's the love interest, he is not. We've also got Mark uh Mr. Hulk. Ruffalo? Yeah. I mean, but I feel like I nailed it. Yeah. Okay, whatever. He's the love interest. There's no chemistry there, and that's also powerful. You really I can't really stress you. It's Mark Ruffalo and Gweneth Peltro, are there two? They're two lovers. So Miss uh Miss Potts and Mr. Hulk smashing lips. That's pretty much what they're doing. They're clobbering time on the is that is that Mr. Hulk is that is his thing? Yeah, yeah, great. I hate that you call it Mr. Hulk. I'm not gonna address him improperly. He's a gentleman and a scholar. What do we went together? I don't know, it's not his first name. But no, it is so stilted throughout the whole thing. It's kind of crazy. I really can't stress it how much of a recommend it is. It's just so odd. Like, scenes just end, there's no real stakes, there's no real like plot other than and you know, at one point Gweneth just puts like a picture of the Eiffel Tower on her wall and goes, one day. And that's and and then she gets it, and then she's and that's tick. Like she wants to be in Paris, she goes to Paris, she gets it. It's kind of insane. Don't you love a movie that just lets the characters get what they need? It's quite nice. And she was like, Maybe I want also Mark Ruffalo, and she gets both. So it's real nice. It was made during 2001, and then something did happen. Uh so they shelled it for two years, and then it made no money. A View from the Top is getting either a one and a half or a five star from me. So, you know, you decide. If you make it a one and a half, I only have to just crop out the first two stars. I'll make it, I'll make it a one and a I'll make it a one and a half. It is a truly five. No, I'll make it three and a half stars. Make it easy for you. Was it it was a laugh ride and I think tiltedness? Well, it's still a comedy. Yeah, okay. But it sometimes when it's not a comedy, when it's you're like, I think when it's trying to be sincere, that's when it's the funniest. Yeah. But when it's having a bit of comedy, it's like, I guess you're kind of a slapstick. Yeah, okay. It's very strange. You should re-check it out. Worryingly, I think you should check it out. I'm keen to watch it. And it is a hardish film to find. I mean, I rented it. I should have bought. I should have bought. Did you get the DVD? I did get the DVD. Oh, okay. I just assumed you'd watch the DVD player. Who has a DVD player? Well, I I assumed you, because you got given a DVD. Yeah, no, I think the visual of the DVD is like, haha, but I do not have it. Don't you love being filmmaker? I feel like people are constantly like, here's my my movie wall of all the films I have, and consistently most of my films are watched on YouTube or effed up movies. Yeah. I mean, there's some crazy ones. We were recently going through um my old DVD collection, and I got a message from my brother, which was I thought this was an incredible pitch, which he found it in a three DVD pack. Um I've never heard of that. Starring Wesley Snipes and Gary Busey in a fast and furious, uh fast and furious knockoff about skydiving. Oh my god, that's huge. Wow. And that was in a three-pack? Right? Wasn't that an incredible pitch? And I was like, you don't get that anymore. Damn. It sucks. I guess maybe they're on Netflix, but maybe they're just a bit more straight 180. That's just that's just crazy. I miss them so. I miss them so. God. Snarky critics didn't know what they had. They were like, this is not very good. It's like, well, we know that. They were like, get they were like put it in him, they were like put him in for tax evasion, and I was like, why would you get rid of all? Let him do what he did. Uh uh, you get him down for tax evasion, and that way you get him onto these films. That's the only it's a great cycle, you know. We need to get some of the people at the top of their tier broken. Down to the down with the mud with the pigs, you know? Oh my god. I feel like we've got a really funny uh sense of time, which is this one line of light is gonna slowly start moving around the couch like a sundial. Yes. So the passage of time is definitely not gonna be lost on the viewer. It's maybe on the listener, though. I I think I framed that out. So at one point the sundial will come into frame. It's just gonna come into frame. It's gonna be a great payoff unless I've edited it out. Cropped it away. Then I get the. I can't wait for there to be harsh lighting on like half of your face while I just look great looking at the camera, airbrushed and pretty. God damn. Uh the next thing I want to talk about is a TV show. Uh there's been a few TV shows. We normally do movies on this podcast. Sometimes we venture out to the small. The silver screen I never remember which one. There's even the silver screen, the TV, the the the cinema's the silver screen. Yeah. What's the gold screen? Well, I always thought the silver screen was second class, and that's why I thought that was TV. Yeah. So But TV's the small screen. I hear the soapbox sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're standing on one. You won't shut up about it. I just love the soapbox. It's a rush. It's a rush. Can you believe I got all my soaps in this box at one point? I couldn't. Carl, what'd you watch? Um, I've been watching uh Widow's Bay on Apple TV. Okay. Have you heard of this? I've never even heard of this. Okay. So I feel like Widow's Bay is turning into an immediate sort of like cult classic. It's definitely not breaking out. Everyone's worried we're not gonna get a season two. Well, sell us to the viewer, you know? It's Matthew Reese, uh, and he is the mayor of a town that may be haunted. But he really wants to get tourism up, so he's just ignoring the fact that the town is haunted. Right. Uh, and it has a very VP sense of humor to it. It's very funny. Um, I would say it's like sort of VEP, but the cast of characters is Parks and Wreck, but it is a genuinely scary show as well. Great, this is cool. And so it's really well direct. Ty West just directed an episode. What's the tone like? Is it really it goes over a really fine line? It is every episode to me has had multiple laugh out loud moments while genuinely having me pretty on the edge of my seat. Uh it's the first three episodes are a little bit freak of the weeky, and then the fourth episode takes a left-hand turn and really sets the groundwork for the rest of the show to be unfolding. Uh, and it is such a breath of fresh air to be seeing something in the horror space that is both really funny and really clever, and it is not afraid to go back into the town's history, so it is it's also evolving uh over sort of multiple timelines as well. But just on top of it, it's just I can't stress you how funny it is though. How good it's comedy. Yeah. And I feel like because there's some shows, people are like, we've been watching this. Hey, like, yeah, it's it's funny-ish, yeah. But it's never, it's never ha ha funny, you know. It's like, oh I've yeah, like I can get that, but you're you're and you're a funny guy. So so that's probably a good uh a good reference, you know? There's um a really fun moment where uh there's like a ho there's like a hotel room that's haunted, and the guy that owns the hotel room doesn't want to go into it, but also has to prove to somebody that it's definitely not haunted, and so he's like, Yeah, I'll go in there for 10 seconds, but only 10 seconds. And he goes in and they close the door on him, and we don't see him, and he's in there for 10 seconds, and then we open up the door, and he's like, What the hell? You said you were only gonna like lock me in here for 10 seconds, and they were like, We did, and he's like, Cool. Okay, just sort of saunters out. It's a really good, just like little moments like that of everybody's sort of on a high horse about the haunting of the town. Right, that's it's it's really fun. Which one was it called again? It's called Widows Bay, it's on Apple TV. Uh, it's 10 episodes. I think we're currently in the seventh episode, but it's easily the thing I'm enjoying the most on TV at the moment. Um, so I do really have to recommend that. Uh, I also saw the boys, if we're on a bit of a TV chat. Yeah, go on TV. Yeah, I think the boys' finale as well just happened. I think what an absolute whimper of a final season. That's how they would like it. It's how it's the fashion at the moment, isn't it? To end on a whimper. I think I think a lot of shows have been like, I'm getting into them going, that seems great. And then I kind of switch off around the third season. Like, I wonder why, but I'll check back in, and it's because they're like squeeze it out for another. It should have ended. Yeah. I remember being like, We still going. Oh, they just like they they're disinterest in wanting to kill Homelander earlier in the show was really frustrating. I think it was frustrating. It feels weird. I remember just that that third season. I feel like at one point, Homelanders at the start of the scene's like, hey, we got a truce for I don't know, eight episodes. I just won't come kill you. Yeah. And you're like, just what is this? You're it's super powerful, but you're just being kept alive because I don't know, you're good for merch, you know? We're in a Mortal Kombat game, so it works. But yeah, no, so it just really wasn't fun ending. No, I don't think so. I think it took too long to get there. Yeah. Um, I think as well, there there is a real lack of energy in the season that feels like maybe everyone's a bit bored of their character. I don't know, there's just something's off. There's a lot of aspects to that final season that just aren't working. Yeah. Um, yeah, and so I think it does come to a it comes to a really weird sort of wet fart of a climax. Yeah. Uh, especially when they do spoilers kill Homelander. Uh, they do it with such ease that you go, was it really that difficult? Yeah. Because he's in a really high position of power. You feel like he'd be really tough to get to now. It just seems easier than ever. It feels like he only got closer and closer for them to be able to kill it, which was kind of odd. Yeah. Um, but the reason I bring that up is because another finale just happened, which was hacks. Oh, yeah, huge. Um, which was phenomenal. Yeah, nice. Uh, and they've absolutely closed out their show as uh super consistent, never bad, every season's always good. Keeps raising as well the stakes, really. Oh my god. My god. Yeah, I couldn't believe how good that final episode was. Everything came together in such a satisfying way. If you've been waiting to watch hacks, watch hacks. Yeah, great. It is just absolutely phenomenal. Love it, love it, love it, love it. Feels like more than anything a real love letter to how weird the entertainment industry is. Yep. And how Las Vegas plays a role in the entertainment industry. Cool, that's quite fun. Yeah. Nice little tie. I'm up to season four, so I'll keep smashing through. Please do. Please do. I mean, now we're on a TV. Let's just freaking go TV wise. Yeah. I finished Sex in the City. I'll do a real watch. All of it. All of it. Well done. Did the carry diaries, the two movies, and then just like that. We have not done the movies. I feel like we need- It's time. It's time. I feel like now I've watched the because here's here's how we watched it, guys. I watched all of And Just Like That with our friends. We watched it together. Yep. Uh it's a fun show because it's insane. It's very good. It's a it's it's it's just really captures what it's like to be um Sarah Jessica Parker while filming the show the show. Yeah. Just like that. Yeah. Uh it's good stuff. No, we watched that, and then we watched the two movies, and now I watch the whole six seasons of the original series. It does make me go, oh, these were bad. And they're bad. I think it was a fun hate watch. Now it's like, oh, these actually have ruined it. But maybe I'll rewatch them, you know, it's back in a big way. Sex and C is fantastic. Yeah, it's very good. So I'm on season three. Yeah, we finished it now. What was your favorite season? Uh three is really I three's really good, I think, because a lot of interesting things happen. I won't spoil anything. And then I think it comes together in six, and then it also like one and two quite a bit. Uh, probably four and five is probably where I'm it's its weakest? Not I think five its weak weakest. Four is really good. Five is much shorter. I think she's pregnant, and it feels like a lot of I mean, I'll spoil it. Carrie's in love with the city for a bit. I don't want to, I don't want to do this. Our Carrie in love with New York, surely not. I don't believe it. Say it ain't so. But it's like I feel like Carrie honest, honestly, at that point, you're just getting a bit like I'm just angry at uh Carrie. But I think that's the point. And I think that's almost like uh a well-trodden thing, and it almost becomes like circles back, you know, like you're angry at her, but why are you angry at her? It's reflective, you know. Well, I love Miranda. Miranda's fantastic, absolutely massacred her character in Unjust Like That. It was really fun to see her in an Unjust Like That. Now watching the series, you're going, they've done it so dirty. Yeah. So goddamn dirty. I wonder if we can look at Unjust Like That with happiness or whether we will like because I think we enjoyed watching Unjust Like That as a bit of a joke. Yeah. But now having seen how good Sex in the City is, if it is just gonna suck out all of that joy, and now I won't have any fun seeing pies be bought and seeing Miranda clean shit out of the drain. And being licked out by Shay, you know, it's just good comedy. Yeah. I think in retrospect, do we think HBO Max is gonna be sitting there going, Shay's one of the worst characters we ever added to a show? That's really cruel to that actress. Um Grey's Anatomy and things like that. That that actress is really good. I think it's actor. Wait. I really feel bad for the actor that was in it because that character is incredibly poorly written. And they are good in Grey's Anatomy. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah. Um so just uh I don't know what they were trying to do with that. If you don't know who this is, Shay is a random character added to and just like that. Nose carry through a podcast. Yeah, but she hosts with that guy who posed but anyway, Miranda and them. Miranda realizes that she's a lesbian and starts dating Shay. Yeah. And Shay's also a stand-up comic who, one, they have not hired good enough writers to depict a comic in the show. Uh, and then two, have also made just a very angry comic. Yeah. Uh, who's just not very nice to Miranda. No, and you sort of you see Miranda in this original series, and like Miranda's got so much like like she's so confident, and like she doesn't put up with this shit, and then just like, I don't know, she just gets broken down by like it's it's a cruel thing to watch. Uh, and then the movies are squidged in the middle there, and they're both great. When the girls go to Abu Dhabi, my god, it's just good stuff. Yeah, they're both it's nuts, those movies. That first one made like $500 million. It's like 800 million in today's money. It's great, it's nuts. They're like, you know, they're like it made as much money as the Nintendo movie did. And it's just kind of like I mean, granted, I guess Big and her get married, but it is just kind of like four episodes stitched together, you know? Uh, but yeah, well, one we will have to do, I think, both the movies. Yeah. I think maybe a whole episode on just like that, because there are just bits. I'd happily do one just like that as like a clip show. Yeah. Just us react and be like, oh, I don't want to watch this. I don't want to say that. Just fast forward to the karaoke and the pies. I really love the pies. The the season finale, which is the series, the series finale just opens and closes with the through line is that Carrie's buying pies for various events, and they don't really ever pay them off, but it's a it's a very heavy pie finale. A long introduction about a pie and how many pies she's buying, and then the series finale, her handing out the pies. It's crazy just what that show is compared to Sex in the City. Oh, what a shame. It's good. What a shame. Good. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's good stuff. That's that's that joke in Flushed Away. Um, I don't know if you remember it, but the the villain. The two villains do a bat. I screamed in the cinema. That was so fucking funny. I just think that never gets old. It's the most British comment I've ever heard in my life. I put fish and chips at my my fanny and the queen. Yeah. You know, that that's second. Yeah. What's the line that's like um the I kept my legs straight? Do you remember that when they're like falling in the water? Oh, yeah. He hits the ground and the big one by like is like I kept my legs straight, Otter, or whatever he's called. It's very funny. Yeah. Because he lands on the pavement. It's just really good stuff. I remember liking the slugs. And unfortunately, the minions retook their their their they almost had it. They almost had it. They were just a bit, I guess a little bit gross, but they were very close. The head of illumination was like, It's that. It's pretty much that. Make them yellow and make them sort of one-eyed, three-eyed, and make them be tied to Nazis somehow. How how why would making them yellow change anything? Old people will like them now too. We can get them to say banana and people say banana. And people will fucking love it. But what will we name them? Carl. This idiot one here. How do you feel about that? Because I can I say, before I met you, I did think the name Carl was quite funny. So I think the minions have nailed the name. I think it is an inherently funny name. I was out of Vivid the other night and there was a group of like boys running around, probably like 18 years old, yelling for their friend Carl. And I was like, wow, crazy to know that name's still around. Good to know it's still kicking. Huh? I was like, this was me looking around. Guys, I'm here. The friend you're looking for is here. And then they start beating you with sticks. They're like, Carl in the wild? What an idiot. Yeah, they were like Carl on. I was like, no, not again. Go to Vivid this year. It's violent. City of Sydney has paid us to promote Vivid. And guys, we're putting our foot down. The violence has to stop. This is disgusting this year. It's a bloodbath. I know. Clover Moore was using us as her mouthpiece. We're not gonna stand for it anymore. Vivid has the vivid violence has to stop against Carls. I'm sick of it. But the light show in the background was just gorgeous. It's beautiful. Honestly, what a way to go. It's a great final sight for me. Carl, have you watched anything else? I got one last little thing in my mind. Hit me. Hit me with what you've got. I watched The Mighty Wind, which is a mockumentary uh in the style of uh Best and Show and uh Spinal Tap. Same uh director, Christopher Guest. Oh yep. Um I did check out this one, I think, because Catherine O'Hara unfortunately passed away a couple months ago, and I've sort of just been, you know, just ticking off little ones. I love those two other movies. Best and show is fantastic. Best and show, I think that that's just like peak, gorgeous. Um, and then all that other one, there's Waiting for Guffman, which is about a guy putting on a play. Yeah. Um fortunately, like Best and Show, I feel like has got so many consistent funny jokes. It's kind of the same with Spiretap. Yeah. Whereas that one they're going for a bit more slicer life. I feel like they haven't packed it with so many jokes. And unfortunately, um The Mighty Wind is similar. It's sort of it's about this uh famous jazz musician, not jazz, just a general musician, and it's about a bunch of people who got affected by him coming over and doing like a final big performance for him. Uh and it's good. It's just, you know, it does suddenly feel a bit more like a documentary. Um and so you'll go up for 40 minutes and be like, it's been like three jokes. And they're they're good jokes, but they're definitely like we've got more of a character study of it, if that makes sense. Um Whereas in Best and Show and uh Spile Tap, I feel like it's a joke a minute, you know? Uh so yeah, it wasn't too hot on that one. Wasn't too hot on this one. Big shame. Big shame. What would you be giving it? Like a two and a half three. Like like and and just in terms of like coming in wanting like a bit of a comedy and wanting that expectation, not really getting that. In terms of like what it like its value is of just like a bit of a slice of life and some kooky characters, uh probably like a bit higher, but I was I was expecting quite a bit, so it wasn't really did not really hit that. So wasn't great. No, yeah. Three and a half. As is the median score. Yeah, it's the it's a good score. It's our three and a half episode, and honestly, kind of the quality of the podcast as well. Yeah, many times gave us a three and a half out of ten. Yeah. It's tough. It's a tough pill to swallow. Yeah, hurt. But it was higher than I was anticipating. Yeah, yeah. It was the one I hoped higher than what I was anticipating. It was almost crueler because at least a one you'd be like, uh, they just didn't like us. A three and a half is a real assessment. It meant it meant that there was there was something for them to taste. Yeah. You know, it was something for them to mull on, but we couldn't deliver the goods. No, so it's really on us. It is really on us. There's no else to blame, but it's us. Yeah. Carl, that's what we watched uh this month. Uh it was just a little taste. We're in the middle of versus month. We've got Olympus has fallen and White House Down uh next week's schedule. One of those movies is banging. I'm telling you right now, it's fucking great. Up to you to find out which one is the one that I love. Pretty excited. You can spoil it if you go and look at my letterbox, though. It's Carl with a bunch of L's and then a one at the end. You can check in the description. Look at that. Oh, really? Yeah. Wow. Pretty good. I mean, I know. Yeah, yeah. It's good to know. I help out. It's good. We also uh Sydney Film Festival's happening, so I think we'll be checking out a couple of those. We might have an episode where we just chat about what we watched. Yep. Slew of films that we're seeing, huh? It'll be fun. It'll be very fun. Carl, we've also got uh extra segment on the YouTube and the Spotify. Uh, but it's we're trying to get better at social media. But it's more visual, so we're good. If you're listening audio-wise, you'd have to check it out, I guess. Yeah, up to you. You could go over to YouTube or you can find us on Instagram and TikTok. All in the description. Yeah, and YouTube shots. Sometimes we're we're on all the things. We're on all the things. We're not active, we're trying to be good better. We're trying to get better because we were told that we had to get better. But it's it's a real tough thing because I don't want to be left alone. No, no. I just want I just want, you know. Don't want to be left alone. Yeah, precisely. Um, but yeah, if you want the party to continue, let's flip over to one of those fuck-ups.