How New England Bullied Houston, Survived The Mistakes, And Set Up A Mile High Showdown

January football doesn’t hand out free passes, and this week proved it. We open with Buffalo’s exit and the myth that turnovers don’t belong to star quarterbacks. You can praise Josh Allen’s jaw-dropping talent and still say four giveaways are a losing script, especially when the defense keeps giving up 28-plus in the playoffs. That pattern, and the roster’s wide receiver neglect, finally came due. From there, we walk through the NFC’s pivots: San Francisco’s injuries catching up, Seattle’s defense arriving with bad intentions, and the Rams’ route precision and motion carving stress-free throws for Stafford.

The Bears gave us the rare loss you can build on. Caleb Williams remains controlled chaos—some routine stuff looks messy, then he rips a 51-yard-in-the-air dart to force overtime. That throw was timing, torque, and nerve, and it changes how Chicago is perceived by free agents and by the rest of the NFC. The middle class should be nervous.

Then we get to the main event: New England’s defense mauling Houston while Drake Maye rode the rollercoaster and still found answers. Four fumbles and a pick will usually bury you; instead, the pass rush set edges, the secondary stole windows, and the offense flipped from Pop Douglas to Kayshon Boutte without losing tempo. This version of the Patriots has something they’ve lacked for years: functional depth and multiple ways to win a drive. Heading into Mile High, the blueprint is clean—early screens to punish aggression, motion to declare coverage, quick-game confidence for Maye, then layered shot calls. On defense, make Jarrett Stidham solve late rotations and simulated pressure on third and long.

We close with picks for both title games and why this playoff run carries a familiar 2001 hum: tough defense, timely offense, and a young quarterback who keeps finding the throw that changes the night. If that identity holds in Denver, a Super Bowl date with LA or Seattle is more than a dream. If you’re riding with us, hit follow, share with a friend who needs smarter football talk, and drop a review with your AFC and NFC winners—who’s lifting the trophy?

Chapters

• 0:00 Setting The Stage: Divisional Chaos
• 2:05 Bills-Broncos Fallout And Allen’s Blame
• 6:45 The Never-Ending Catch Debate
• 10:05 Why Buffalo’s Defense Keeps Cracking
• 15:05 Star Treatment And QB Double Standards
• 20:35 NFC Shock: San Francisco Stumbles
• 24:10 Bears’ Grit And Caleb’s Chaos
• 29:15 Rams’ Precision And NFC Title Stakes
• 33:20 Pivot To Patriots-Texans
• 36:50 New England’s Defense Mauls Stroud
• 41:30 Drake Maye’s Highs, Lows, And Composure
• 47:00 Skill Players Stepping Up: Pop And Booty
• 51:20 Echoes Of 2001 And Culture Reset

Transcript

Michael Marcangelo: 0:06

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to MTP Boston. Uh this week again pulling double duty. Uh we're gonna be talking about all of the National Football League games over the weekend and any any any news that happened to guide you through this wonderful experience. Uh I do need to be my my co-captain, my co-host, my boy, Hollywood Ray John Buchanan, I am Michael Marcangelo. And then the Patriots are headed to the AFC title game. Uh we're we have a lot to talk about. This weekend was full of it had a little bit of everything. If you if you like blowouts, we had one of those. If you like close games, we had two of those. And if you liked a game that you know should have been a little bit more of a blowout than it was, we had one of those as well. But like what what was your takeaway, Ray, from uh from divisional weekend?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 0:51

Overall, it just just for New England.

Michael Marcangelo: 0:54

Overall. We'll start big picture and we'll hone in.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 0:56

Well, yeah, over overall, I mean you're still still you know, seeing a lot of good football. I mean, I know obviously there was some messiness that went on in really all the games to an extent. Um, see some crazy throws, seen some some really good comebacks. Um but overall, see some really good defense being played too, um, at least throughout the four. Actually, really in all the games. I mean, yeah, the scores were different each of the games, but you see moments where the defense defenses all shine through. Um, so it's just it's just why another reason why their playoffs is just as good as anyone else in in pro sports. And it's a weekly drama, it's weekly stars being built. You know, um people might have been worried because there was gonna be a lack of you know an MI star power in the AFC, you know, with no Mahomes Burr or Lamar, but you know, it's fit the bill so far. And uh yeah, I'm just glad to still be, you know, in the final four.

Michael Marcangelo: 1:53

Yeah, I would say like uh I think we're gonna spend the majority of the time on the Patriots game, obviously. Uh we are a Boston show. So why don't we start elsewhere and then we'll end with the Patriots game? Um I think we'll we gotta start Broncos and Bills. Of course. We have to start there.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 2:12

So yeah, one up. I'm gonna order it.

Michael Marcangelo: 2:16

Over the Bills. Uh uh Josh Allen uh was unable to break through to the AFC title game or to the Super Bowl in a year that did not have Mahomes, Lamar, or Burrow in the playoffs, like we've talked about. Eight eight uh playoff uh eight playoff uh berths, two AFC title game births and no Super Bowl births, so much so that that it did cost uh Sean McDermott his job. So for all you uh Josh Allen apologists, now it's all on him. It's all on him now, just like it's it's all on Lamar now. Um but I will say I still don't really know what a catch is, do you?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 2:59

We haven't known since 2014. We're being honest. Really, even before then, like the Calvin Johnson game against Dallas years ago. Um, that was a catch. Sorry, Barbie. That was a catch. That was it was a catch for Calvin Johnson, it was a catch for Dez. Um, many years ago when we were kids, Michael Urban caught it too. I guess Dion, that was that was a catch years ago too. Um I just I don't I don't I don't know why they're so inconsistent on what that is. Uh because we've had a couple of plays where that could have gone New England's way and it should have gone New England's way and it didn't. Um, you know, I'm talking about for the regular season, but yeah, like I'm I'm um I'm just as confused as anyone else, honestly.

Michael Marcangelo: 3:44

I because I just don't, I mean, he went to the ground, he had possession, he was tagged on the ground, and he came up without the ball. Right. So I I don't under like I I truly don't understand if it was uh I I I'm just at a loss for words in that, but I really want to focus on um a couple things uh during this game, right? Obviously, Buffalo put up points, they put up 30, but in their last, was it is it their last four playoff games? Is their defense averaging? Like they're allowing at least 28 points a game in all in all of these games.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 4:19

I mean, Bruce Smith is not walking through that door. You know what I'm saying? And I I get that, you know, uh, you know, is it Nick or Joey over there? Is it Nick? Was it Nick or Joey? No, it's Joey, Joey's over there. Joey. So, you know, Joey Trump, sorry, Joey Bosa, um just didn't, you know, he he he was he was but he was pissed. Where there was element and everything else. That's why I have to say that because this is funny. He hasn't been just mad since Biden won. And I thought that was hilarious. I thought that was great. Um, because it's okay to have just the politics. It's okay. I know you guys want to get emotional about it, but that was funny. Um and it was funny that they lost. Like, I I once again, we he um, you know, also we'll we'll get into this shortly, but um, yeah, the defense just uh I don't know. Once again, you get Bosa, you have is it Russo, Rosso, Rosanna, Greg. I know I number 50. I don't know. They got is it Milano's over there too?

Michael Marcangelo: 5:20

Like, yeah, Greg Russo, right?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 5:22

Yeah, Greg Russo, Greg Russo. Um, especially he spells it differently. I'm I'm I'm thinking about Miss Russo, but that's because I'm Russell fan. Um but yeah, Russo, Poyer, Tradabius White, Milano. Like they got some guys on it that can, you know, individually are really good. Um now, Trey White hasn't been good, as good since he had the injury a few years back. Obviously, we know what happened with Damar Hamlin, you know, with his near death experience a few years old. So once again, just that he's a why. Forget about what he does on the field. But yeah, I think collectively they just have not been what they need to be, and they lean and rely heavily on 17. And once again, he couldn't he couldn't pull off the cape fully one more time on um on Sunday. On Saturday, excuse me, on Saturday.

Michael Marcangelo: 6:06

So Josh Allen goes a 25 of 39, 283, three touchdowns, two picks, three fumbles, two lost. So he turned the ball over four times. So I'm just gonna say it. I'm gonna say it out loud, the thing that I said in the group chat. You can't have three or four turnovers in a game where you lose and have it not be your fault. Right. It's your fault. You you were a cause of why you lost that game. Now the argument can be made that they were that he's the reason that they were in it. Absolutely. A thousand percent. They're not in that game without Josh Allen. But they win that game, but they win that game.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 6:43

That's true.

Michael Marcangelo: 6:44

That's true, Mr. Yeah, but they win that game if he doesn't make four turnovers.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 6:48

Sure.

Michael Marcangelo: 6:48

Sure. So there it is.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 6:50

No, for sure. But I I just also, and maybe you can answer this for me because you may joke to say Lamar, but I don't think you'll mean it if you say just what I'm about to say. Um I don't know of a quarterback that's gotten more of a pass in recent memory than Josh Allen. Like, you and I were on the air.

Michael Marcangelo: 7:13

I think Burrow gets a pass because of what he did that one year against Mahomes right Allen. Okay and he gets the Super Bowl.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 7:19

Sure, that's that's that's fair too. Um but even then, I'm like, damn, I it's still they don't they don't they don't give him the same love the way like whatever what Josh Allen did in a losing performance has brought him into folklore. It's unbelievable. Unbelievable. And once again, we we were on the air, I think the day or two after that happened. And once again, we announced at the time this is a top 10 game in the last decade. Easily, it was. Um, but he has gained so much cachet from that game, and it's like from then on, because you you stood tall, you fought hard against Goliath. Well, David won. Well, David won. David won, and you haven't you have not beat your Goliaths yet. You haven't beat them. So just saying.

Michael Marcangelo: 8:09

I do listen, I love kind of you know dipping my toe in the in the Josh Allen hater rate every once in a while. But to what you just said, I like here is my counterpoint. Brady left the field in all Super Bowls, but but the uh but the uh the last Philly Super Bowl with the lead.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 8:30

Right, not Seattle. What do you mean? Oh no, so sorry, they were down 10. Sorry, that's that's what I'm thinking about. They were down ten, dude. That's that's what I'm thinking.

Michael Marcangelo: 8:43

Yeah, so but like you so let's say that that let's just hold the same energy. Let's say he leaves, he he does what he did uh in uh uh in 2007 against the Giants. Eli goes down and does what he did with David Tyree, you know, Pascal Burris, and then Brady came back and and did a game-winning drive. I wouldn't diminish what Eli did. You know, like so like there there is lure to it in losses. I think I'll never hold it against Josh Allen that that he that he went into arrowhead and and battled uh Mahomes. It's not his fault that they left 18 seconds or 23 seconds, right?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 9:23

So right. Well, I mean, well, listen, the the touchdown that gave Davis, that should have been game because that that was un that was one that was a hell of a throw. Right. Dave Davis was unreal that that afternoon. Unreal. Um, that's one of the best performances I've seen, right? Like hands down. Um but yeah, I I mean, I guess because I just go by the notion that we talked about this before too. If if you get all the credit when you win, right, then you deserve the lion's share of the blame um when you lose. Now, yes, we know there's other things that add context. We get that. Um, but whether it was the Marino, whether it was at L Way, whether it was Brady, whether it was Peyton Manning, like those guys got the scrutiny when they lost and got all the praise when they won. Like, that's just how it was.

Michael Marcangelo: 10:12

I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw a comp to you. I think he is the modern day so far, Steve McNair. Because I don't remember Steve McNair ever getting any shit. And he didn't win a big game. He got to a Super Bowl, sure.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 10:28

Right. I so and I'm about to contradict myself while I'm saying this. I know I put you in that position. Um but it's like, damn, Tennessee is not where they are. Like, Tennessee is not where they are. I I know they had Eddie George, just like how he has Double Cook. I mean, I double cooked James Cook, but you tell me another guy that could have came in and did what Steve Manaire did at that time. Um you are doing exactly what you said you were gonna do.

Michael Marcangelo: 10:57

No, that's what I was saying.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 10:57

That's what I said. I said about the country, I just said that, but I'm all the contradictions myself. But I just I just think that um he's also Josh South has also knocked at the door more than Steve McNair did. Yes, Steve Minair's there, and Steve Minair kind of he wasn't really the guy that he was by the time he got to Baltimore. So I think he just kind of faded off to the sunset. Yes, they made the throw bowl, yeah. They made the playoffs, but Baltimore at that time was just happy to have another quarterback because between Kyle Bowler, Anthony Wright, and you know, Tony Banks, whatever they it just it was just battle with their quarterback-wise. So they was happy to get anybody. You could have been back there, they didn't be like, look, we got Mike Rogangelo, he's slipped five, and you can't teach that. Like that, that's what it would have been. They'd have been happy about that. Um, needless to say, Josh Allen has been knocking at the door, knocking at the door, and we recognize the talent. That's why we're so hard on him. Though those that that have been hard on him, we recognize and we acknowledge that he very well is just as good as anyone else that we talk about. Might be the most talented of the group, if we're being real. The way that he runs, the way that he throws, he talent-wise, yeah, he's he's well, he's not heading to shoulders, but he's he to me, he is above the rest of those guys. When we talk about talent-wise, but you know, situations matter. Um but it's also on Sean McDemitch why he why he lost his job. You can't what they've done at the at the wide receiver position, and we know this because we've had to endure it ourselves, is football negligence. What they've done at the wide receiver position, um they had a really good they had a really good one when we growed up, uh, when we grew up, um Eric Molds. Eric Molds, yep. Um they had Pelis Price for a little bit, you know, before he was in Atlanta. Um they had Steve. TO older TO. They had Steve Johnson, Steve Johnson. So they had some guys come through there.

Michael Marcangelo: 12:48

Um that And I mean they had Steph Dicks and they let him go.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 12:52

Right, correct. And thank you. Thank you. Sure. Um, right. I hit um I don't know. I just think like I said, it's football management is what they've done draft-wise. I'm saying not what they've done in free agency of different trades, but what they what they've done draft-wise to get um and not develop guys under Josh Allen is criminal.

Michael Marcangelo: 13:13

If Khalil Shakir was your number two, you'd have one of the top uh like wide receiver rooms in the league. Absolutely. He he he's their number one because for what you said, it's a dereliction of duty. Um and yes, all that's true. Josh Allen still chokes.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 13:31

Yes, he does, he does choke. He chokes. Listen, I'm if you know if I was if we was in a studio, I would, I would, I would give you a hug. Um, because you know, we've we've jokingly in Jess gone back and forth, but you know, about the whole Lamar thing. And I'm like, I say all I all I want, and not just you, but from everybody gets on Lamar, I just want the same energy when other quarterbacks don't produce because it's not just him. And thankfully, you know, you've been out here, said it. Others have now finally come around and said, Well, you know, he's not doing them like, yes, that once again, you you can critique all day. That that's what that's what the show's about. That's fine. Just don't make it about just him, because it's not just him that's not doing it or not getting the job done. There's other quarterbackers once again, Burrow ain't got it done yet. Um, Josh Allen ain't got it done yet. Um, there's plenty of quarterback that have not got it done yet. Urban ain't got it done yet. So it's just like we make sure, but I think because we hold guys in different regards, which is fine. Um, you know, we we speak on on guys differently. Uh someone shared a picture of uh Josh Allen saying that he's the James Harden of the NFL, and I cannot stop laughing. I think that that spot on. Spot on. He is 2018. That that is spot on. So far.

Michael Marcangelo: 14:42

So far.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 14:42

Okay, so far. I mean, Harden hasn't, I mean, he's he's been knocking at the door many times too. Right.

Michael Marcangelo: 14:48

But just hasn't, you know, hasn't hasn't been so it if it was ever possible, and now I'm I just want to preface this by saying I I never celebrate an injury and I don't I don't wish them, right? But if two good things could have ever come from one game, it is the Buffalo Bills being eliminated, and now we have to go to Denver next week to play Jared Stinnham and the Denver Broncos. So Sean Payton, but but Sean Payton's like pupping him up, saying, like, I think at the best.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 15:19

He has to. He has to make him feel like he's Drew Brewers. 2.8. He has to make him feel that way. That it's not gonna work, but that's that's what that's what he he has to do. That um I heard he was still in the league. So when I when I heard that, I was like, oh, but he's still still in the league. Wow, okay. Um secretly, I wanted San Francisco. Um, could I wanted Matt Jones versus Shake May if that was the case? That that would that just would have been that that just would have been perfect for me. But um, just for the the narratives that would have been built out there, um, hell, Jimmy Garoppolo might get a shot too, or something would happen. You you just you just never know. That that that that would be unbelievable to me if that was the case. Um, because then you you can book it that we'd be the seventh time world champions if that's the case. So say it's say that right now. Um just for the narrative, I hope that sit him does well, but I hope that it's 41 to 17. Yeah, I hope that's the 1248 championship game. What was that?

Michael Marcangelo: 16:27

I I I don't think we've ever seen anything like this before, right? Like where the uh Bo Next had one a hell of a game, you know, three touchdowns, uh a pick. He was their leading rusher. Um and he led that drive in overtime to get them down to to kick the field goal. And I didn't even notice that he was limping. I didn't I didn't even know.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 16:46

Yeah, in general, in general, but I didn't I didn't know we did so when when um I think you I think you're the one that broke the news so I was like, he broke his ankle talking about what like I like I thought you were joking around, like like oh, like um, you know, I just thought you were just messing with us, but I didn't realize that that was really a thing. Um, but I wish him a speedy recovery because once again, like he's I don't think he's supremely talented, but I do think they obviously he does enough in that system to be productive, obviously, and he got them to the AFC championship game. So um, you know, it speaks to his consistency. But yeah, um, but just like you know, Stedham is again pumped up, but we got a coach here that knows him very well because he brought him over there with him in in Vegas. So um not concerned in that regard. But once again, just for my narrative, I do hope that he does well meeting Stedham, but you know, just not where it means that you know Denver is going on obviously to the uh to the Super Bowl.

Michael Marcangelo: 17:46

Uh next game, which I mean, my I said before this game started, this is the game where Sam Darnold comes back down to earth within 20 minutes. Uh DK was like, this did not and will not age well. And and he was right. Now, I'll I'll just say 12 of 17 for 124 yards and a touchdown. Didn't lose it.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 18:12

I'm not saying flying, didn't lose it, he didn't lose it. I know that's that's what let it be you.

Michael Marcangelo: 18:18

What what the fuck happened to San Francisco?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 18:21

I think the injuries finally caught up. You know, I don't want to oversimplify it, but I think that's just what it was. Like I think they were Philly clearly quit. And now I don't want to take it away. Like they beat Philly, they came into Philly, they beat them, but Philly has quit on Jalen Hurts. I think Jalen Hurts quit on Nick Seriani and and Putulo, who cost him his job. So there was a bunch of turmoil going in there. So Philly wasn't gonna win regardless. Even they got past um Say Fran, they wasn't gonna get back to the Super Bowl. Um, because chemistry matters, and they don't have it right now. Um But yeah, they walked into a perfect storm, and I've been saying it all year when we've done all shows together. I said this felt different for Sam Darnold. It felt different because oh, you know, I I might it just it just felt different. Felt different. Um that defense is for real. Yeah, they are. They're very good. Yeah. Um and I have to say, even though Pop Douglas made me feel a bit better on Sunday, um, it hurt to see Rashid Shahid go off because that was something that we could have gotten at the deadline, especially for what he went for. Um, they gave like a third or a fourth for him. I'm like, are you kidding me? Um like, and he was great Saturday night. He was awesome. Um, I mean, yeah, something like that can have been used, huh?

Michael Marcangelo: 19:43

Yeah, I mean, he had the kickoff for him, but other than that, he didn't he didn't have a catch, he had two rushers, 27 yards.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 19:48

No, right, but I feel like the way that he can be used is he would have been another dynamic person in this offense to go on top of Wolfman, yeah, in my opinion. Yeah. Um, so but like I say, you know, he you know. Goes over there. Um, he looked like Percy Harvin on that return, right? Because that's I know it did. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? So like that, that was cool. But yeah, it was just a perfect storm of like it was like, I I think honestly, because clearly they rock with Sam, I feel like it was like, we're not going out the way Minnesota went out last year. Not like this, anyways. Um, so I'm I'm happy for Sam Donham because I I think that he has turned his career around dramatically. And um, you know, he he he deserves to have this moment. Um, and I said, you know, we'll go on to our friends when we get into the predictions, but yeah, happy for him. But yeah, they got smoked and it was over as soon as they got off the bus.

Michael Marcangelo: 20:41

It was crazy. I was like, you know, there's still time for Sam Darnold to do Sam Darnold things, but that the defense wouldn't have allowed it. They just wouldn't have they were all over that. All right. Uh but now if you if you've all if you uh have not heard it already, uh please go and listen to the DK, Mr. and Mrs. DK Sizzle reaction show uh to the Chicago Bears miraculously forcing overtime against the uh against the uh LA Rams, ultimately losing 20 to 17. Caleb Williams threw a 14-yard touchdown pass to end regulation, and that ball traveled 51 yards in the air. Um I mean, I almost drove off the road because I was in the car just scrambling to find uh a ways listen to the game. So I just hooked up Xfinity stream to my Bluetooth and started listening to it. But I couldn't, as someone who watched it, right? Yeah. Obviously, listen, Matt Stafford, Sean McVay, we know all that. Like, and we can talk a little bit about that. But I I do think, and I know that you and I are usually firmly on the same page, there isn't a lot that uh of of good that you can take away from losses. I do think this one's the exception. Because the Bears should not have, I mean, by all accounts, you know, we've been talking all season long. The Bears and the Patriots are kind of mirroring each other, right? They they got better faster, and I would I I'm I will fully argue uh or allow for the fact that the Bears had a tougher schedule than the Patriots, absolutely, right? But no, nobody had the Bears in the divisional rounds at the playoffs against the Rams. And then to be down to the last drive in the fourth quarter to tie it. Like, talk about the takeaways that you can have, you know, if you're the Chicago, if you're a Bears fan.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 22:27

So, I mean, easily the best season, I think, since 2018. I think when they lost us uh New Orleans up big in the wildcard round. Um, you know, or even better than that, when they went to the N6 Championship game in 2010 and lost to Green Bay. Um you have the guy, you had the coach.

Michael Marcangelo: 22:50

Um offense is not the problem.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 22:53

Yeah, offense is not the problem. But defensively they're fine. Once again, it was 20 to 17. It wasn't like they lost 41-17, like from Jalen Johnson to like they they got some they got some guys on on defense that can go. Um once again, they gave over 20 points, so it wasn't like they came in there and got smoked. Um I was texting you when that when that moment happened when they when they tied it, because the first three passes was it, it was the full Caleb Williams experience. And I know DK was disagreeing with me because of how the season overall went. Um, but he's erratic. And that's what it's that's what makes you rip out your hair about it, but what is it's also what makes it special, right? Um, kind of like how Josh Allen was early in his career. Josh Allen was super erratic, still is at times. Um but he does things that no one else could do on the field, so that's why you're like, oh, okay, like this is you knew he was gonna become something. It's just a matter of he has to keep developing. Same thing with Caleb, and there's nothing wrong with that. Um, but you know, I'm seeing the play break down in real time, and I'm like, oh man, like you you you can't like take a sack here though, but you can't just like throw it out of bounds. And I just see him just just toss it. I'm just like, where is he throwing you to? And I said, oh my god, he caught it. Like it's it's it's it's a touchdown. Like, and it would do with it'll be wide open. Like he threw the guy open, like that's un like that's that, and I don't want to over over-exaggerate, but that might be a top 10 throw I've seen in the playoffs the last 15 to 20 years, easily.

Michael Marcangelo: 24:24

Is it better? Is it better than last week's top 10 throw that he that he ate? Because I mean D'Air Jordan.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 24:29

Well, I I guess because of the moment, because it's hard to get him going overtime, so yes, but man, like if it I was like, that's he makes it harder than it has to be. I think that's what that's what aggravates people about him. Because some things he makes really look look really easy. Like there's a reason why he went number one. Like the dude just he makes things look very easy. Um, but yeah, they they have they have a really bright future. And based off this game, in my opinion, I feel like there should be guys that want to come there to lost those those added pieces. And um so that's what he accomplished on Saturday. But you know, it's still good, better, best, you know, you know, never let it rest. And you know, so the good gets better, you know. So yeah, so that it's it's it's uh I I I love that and um keep taking shit off, Ben. Um, you know, because yeah, yeah, I got some good things coming.

Michael Marcangelo: 25:21

Yeah, listen, I think I said to you, uh, if I don't know if it was before the show, if it was last night, uh I think a fair criticism of Caleb Williams is he makes plays that only he can make look easy.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 25:34

Yeah.

Michael Marcangelo: 25:35

And sometimes he makes plays that everyone else should be able to make look hard, right? And I do think he's he's like the Jeff Hardy of quarterbacks in football. Like he's he's controlled chaos. That's what he is, and that's not a bad thing. I think if he knows how to if he he's gonna learn more and more and get and get a handle on how to control it, but the my takeaway from Caleb is that if you if he's if if yeah, if there's one second on the clock, you're leaving him too much time. And when's the last time we could say that about a Bears quarterback? Never, never, never. Uh, so there's a lot to a lot to look forward to uh for the Bears. But listen the Rams, man, Kobe Parkinson, Puka Nakua, Devontae Adams has two catches, but they were some like they were two of the biggest catches of the game. Uh for for the Rams side. A lot of matters. They are they are, I mean, that is a good team top to bottom. And the battle of the NFC West for the N uh for the NFC title next week should be should be something to watch.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 26:46

Yeah, can't can't can't wait. I mean, you know, I'm biased to Matt Stafford. Um, he's absolutely my non-favorite patriot. Um, you know, yeah, my favorite non-patriot, I have to say.

Michael Marcangelo: 26:56

Um, I my favorite non-patriot.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 27:00

Yeah, well, yeah, yeah. So I was like, yeah, I know how I said it, but yeah, he's he's he's awesome. And like that's why I want him to replace Brady. I've made that known on the show numerous times. Um, I think he's that good. And you know, I appreciate what he's been able to do in the light half of his career. Um, and I I need them to get there because I I want us to get there. And I I want us to get it over them. Once again, as much as I love Matt Stafford, um, you know, this this this guy got his first and his last here against that team. Um, and what better way to start the new era um than to be than to be to get his first one against the Rams, too? Why not? Why not?

Michael Marcangelo: 27:44

Yeah, hell we're gonna cap off year one of the rebuilds. So let's go ahead and talk about uh your fucking your New England Patriots, my New England Patriots hosted the Houston Texans, and I mean they really beat the shit out of CJ Stroud. Like you can't you can't sugarcoat it. Um pre-game CJ Carr. Pre-game Brushki was talking with Drake May and said, I just want to let you know, like, when it snows here, you don't lose. You don't lose. And it looked like Drake May was gonna try and give Houston every opportunity to win that game. Yeah, he didn't. So let's let's talk about the highs and lows of this game, right? I know you you it takes a lot for you to rep the Patriots jersey on this on this pod. It's been like since 2021 since you've done it. So let's talk about it. What what were your highs and lows from this game?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 28:34

Well, obviously the first high is at 31.

Michael Marcangelo: 28:36

Sure.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 28:38

Um I just love that Ramon J. Stevenson continues to contribute positively. I know, I know everyone's still collectively still holding their breath. I get that. Um, and just warrant it. Yep. But I just I love that he's contributing. Um, I love that our guy, Carlton Davis, um, even though he pissed me off with some of the PI calls. Um you know, the picks he had was incredible. And um I just love how the defense overall showed up. So um winning, you know, Stevenson doing his thing, and then you know, uh Carlton Davis individually, but that defense was was just really special. Again, um after all we talked about was the 85 Texans. I'm sorry, the two 25 Texas being 85 Bears or the 2000 Ravens or you know, the 04 Patriots. Like, I'm it's it's wild to me. Um, you know, but you know, now now they're a cancun. So you know, hope they enjoy it.

Michael Marcangelo: 29:37

Yeah, you're so you're just so uh unbiased. Listen, this was a defense.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 29:42

I don't like I do, but hey, yesterday what yesterday wasn't that day because you had a bad day, like hey wasn't good.

Michael Marcangelo: 29:50

Dan Oloski, hopefully soon to be friend of the show. Uh, he did pick against the Patriots, obviously. Right, him him hit him and everybody, which said Cardi B off a fucking cliff, which they all earned. Yeah, I got a response to that when you've done because however, D Dio said today there the the Texans would win that game if there was any one of 31 other quarterbacks uh on the field. Is that true?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 30:14

He's smoking dope. Um I'm listening like Mike said, hopefully that you're a friend of the show in the future. Because I I do overall, I like your announcements. I do. I think that you give spot-on analysis for the most part. Um, outside of when you talk about Josh Allen, because you just you it doesn't matter. He can he could throw five picks, you could say, you know, it should have been three. Like I that is it's it's just it's it's it's too much. Um, but you're you're drunk here, Dan. Love you, bud, but you you're drunk. There's no way he that 30, like, no way. I'm sorry. Um, if you want to say maybe you know, five to seven, okay. All right. Um, and once again, you could tell any quarterback not to throw not to turn over five times and have a chance to win. Like, are you really are you really calling CJ Shaw the worst quarterback in the league? Come on. Come on, come on, Dan. Come on. Like, like, I just I just I can't respect that.

Michael Marcangelo: 31:09

And once again, it was it it was bad, though. It was it was bad.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 31:13

It was, and but okay, because he wasn't even Dan was Dan Holoske wasn't even in the league yet. But we know just because we grew up watching it. Payton Manny, who some believe is the best of all time, but some who was mine, right? You know, people revert to their opinion. Morons, no, they're not. Sure. Go ahead. But Payton Manny came into here and to I think it was either the Jets or Kennedy. No, it was K it was the Jets. Um and looked absolutely silly before he won a challenge to six. And Peyton Manning was putting up numbers that we had seen at the QB position outside of Light Marino at the time. Yeah, so he came into the Jets, got smoked, I think 41-nothing, if I'm not mistaken. Came into here, lost, I think, 20 to 3, right? Um, on the same day, 21 years ago. Um 22 years ago, I should say. But like, really? Like, I just it's it's we we've we've seen this before. And TJ Shroud ain't nowhere near where Payne Manor was. Nowhere near. And we made him look silly. This is what used to happen up here, and y'all forgot. Let me let me let me just let me just put it out there because you know, Mike may not say it the way I was gonna say it, but he's saying it different way. And you and you, and that's why I got so mad before when I seen teams come through here and and they thought it was sweet. It's not up here. Come up here, get the clam chatter, come back home, enjoy, enjoy your vacation. It's not sweet up here. Okay, you know, you're not coming up here to get a win. It's not like that anymore. It was it was like that, but I said, but we got to give back to that dominance. And now it looks like when you come in here, you're getting a dog fight. There is no let's kick your feet up and act like nothing happened. No, no, no. And once again, they got all that hype coming into here. And this is why I said I said to you, I said this last week when we talked about after the um in the Steelers of Texas game. I was like, I didn't want the Houston game because I was gonna be bored after a while. And I was you weren't bored, you weren't bored of this game though. No, no, I'm bored, but the thing is, I knew I knew offensively they wouldn't be able to keep up with us. That I knew, but I also wanted to send Aaron Rodgers home. Like that, that was really the that would that I wanted to send him and Omar Apps home. So like that, that's what I wanted to do. So so we couldn't do that. So I we had to settle, obviously, for getting you know CJ Carr, you know, out the game. Um out of the playoffs. So it's great, it's awesome. Um, but yeah, Dio and whoever else on the NFL live crew, um, you know, once again, y'all, y'all, y'all know a lot about football. Y'all, y'all have forgotten more than we know. I I I hear you. Um, but in the words of Biggie Smalls MM, you dare you dare wrong, homie. You dare wrong. Dare wrong. So, but I'm I'm I I've never been happier to see all those picks go wrong. So please, please, every everyone hop on the Denver Bear Wagon this week, please. Please.

Michael Marcangelo: 34:04

I mean, that'd be pretty hard to do, but let's talk about it.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 34:07

Oh, they should do. They should though. Still pick Denver. It's okay.

Michael Marcangelo: 34:10

No, you can't do that. You I mean, you can't.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 34:12

No, they they think he knows already happening. Um, Mike, they think that Jarrett said it's gonna be Nick Foles. So yes, if you if y'all believe that Jerry Setham's gonna be Nick Foles 2.0, I hope he's not. Jerry Sinnham on any day is not as good as Nick Foles was. Nick Foles was a legit starter in his league for a while, too. Wasn't just oh, because he he was a backup on that day. Cool. Um, he would have been.

Michael Marcangelo: 34:35

People forget when when Michael Vick went down in f in Philly for a couple weeks, he threw seven touchdowns.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 34:39

Right. So that's so awesome. You know, you see what I'm saying? So this is not this is not Mike Lennon. So come on. Sorry to catch that, catch that straight, but this is not Mike Lennon um or any other quarter uh backward quarterback that didn't produce like that. Um let's let's keep it, let's keep it real. So um well before before we preview Denver, yeah.

Michael Marcangelo: 34:59

Drake May, 16 to 27, 180 yards, three touchdowns to pick four fumbles, two lost. Now, listen, had we lost that game, I would tell you that Drake May was the reason why we lost.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 35:14

Yeah, but that that would have been true, though.

Michael Marcangelo: 35:18

It's also true that you know he he put up 21 points on the the number one defense and or the number two defense, number two defense in the NFL.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 35:29

Hold on, best defense of all time, Mike. They they were they were like they were they were paid, they were billing this as Rock Austin, like they were billing this as the greatest thing and the greatest show on defense that we've ever seen. That you had Bruce Smith and Reggie White on defense, and that you had Gilbert Brown in the middle, you had Ted you had all these guys in the middle, you had John Randle in the middle, you had Meg, you had uh you had Jack Lambert and Jack Tatum at la at linebacker, you had Rod Woodson and Deon State. You had those, you had everybody there, and they still went home. Damn. Damn. Sorry, hate, hate, hate to see it, hate to see it.

Michael Marcangelo: 36:10

They do have to. Now, I don't think they're gonna be, you know, the Denver has a really good defense. They don't have the edge rushers that uh that Houston did. So like you don't have to, you should not have to worry about having to, you know, chip Will Anderson every fucking play. But like it's I think it's in their heads right now, though. Will Campbell needs to figure this out.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 36:28

He does, but he's he's also he's also advancing. I don't give a I don't give a little ASAC and long as long as we host up the Lamar Hunt trophy next week. I I don't I don't I don't I I I care because I want him to do well, and I'm the one on here, I'm the one that was caping for him early on. But I was like, I saw him on tape, and I was like, that's go you go get him. And I still stand by that. Um it was bound to happen that he would have yeah, I guess you could say the rookie wall, so to speak. Um, I'd hate I hate I wish they'd rather been week 12, week two, three, you know, that you know what I'm saying, instead of now, but um you got two rookies starting, and you're in the AFC championship game. I'd I'm I'm I'm I'm okay. I'm gonna give us some more grace. Now, if this is year three and four, and he's letting people just kind of do the Olay. Now we now we gotta have a conversation. But he he he gets that grace in the moment right now. But I do hope that he plays better next week, though.

Michael Marcangelo: 37:25

He has to. And yeah, not not to overlook Denver, uh, because I do think that and it's gonna irritate me throughout the entire game that that this could be a close game if it is. Uh, but if we go up against Seattle, like Will Campbell's gonna figure some shit out before that, right? But again, cart before the horse. So uh we always thank Bill for Christian Gonzalez. Can we thank Bill for K-Shawn Booty?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 37:51

I mean, I want to be like you and say no. I mean he drafted he drafted him and he benched him, but he benched him right exactly. He tree he tried to sabotage him right away, so no. Um, but yes, technically, really pop drafted too. He he drafted pop. He drafted pop as well.

Michael Marcangelo: 38:06

So um is that not one of the the the best catches you've ever seen in in Patriots playoff history?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 38:13

Well, playoff history, period. Period. Um once again, given the circumstance, given like that, I was like, okay. But people forget about Kayshawn Booty, like he he had some off-the-field issues at LSU, which is why he dropped. Right the dice. Right, right. So because of that, he dropped. He was a first-round talent, first and second round talent. So for him to fall to the sixth round, and we know another wide receiver, even though he's become a basket case, but that was a hell of a receiver from the sixth round, and that's Antonio Brent out of when he was in central Michigan, like became the best of his generation. You know what I'm saying?

Michael Marcangelo: 38:59

So um he just couldn't beat those demons. Like though that no, of course, those off the field if she's caught up.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 39:06

No, yeah, exactly. Right, correct. Um, so hopefully that's not the case here with um, you know, Cash Abu likes. I think he's been great. Um, he's he's a he just likes to gamble, right?

Michael Marcangelo: 39:15

Like there's no there's no domestic violence. He just can't.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 39:18

No, but I mean, but even then, like that. I mean, we've seen we're now seeing in the NBA how that's starting to play out. So I I don't, even though that's it doesn't look the same as something else. I don't like I want him, I want him to gamble on a cornerback. I don't I don't want you once again, go to Ankor, get your fix and come back, homie. Like, just it's okay. Sorry. Or go actually your thoughts, bro. Go right up to um to Twin River and Lincoln, Rhode Island, and they come back, bro. Like, could I know most of the Rhode Island anyway, so just do that. It's okay. Um, but yeah, he's he's been good. I I thought it would be the pop dunkers game. I mean, then they keep going to him, but I love the touchdown catch that he had and um fourth and one. Fourth and one nails. And I mean on 20 was that a 28 yard touchdown? 28 on I was just like, yo, I mean I would I was screaming like yo run it run it throws throws the quick shot on it.

Michael Marcangelo: 40:09

When he came out in shotgun, I was like, oh boy, oh don't do this. Like you you have Ramondre, you have Trey, like you can get this, and then of course, then he he made us eat our awards. What I love most about this iteration of the Patriots uh offensively is you have guys like Pop who has not been a focal point in the offense like for weeks, and then and then he could be a key contributor. Like it and I don't think either of either one of us in August would have said the Patriots skill positions have have so much depth that one of the guys can go missing for four weeks and they can still win. But here they are, right?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 40:47

Right here they are. Well, so and we've we've touched on it a little bit, but I'll reiterate it again and I'll say it again next week if they win as well. Um this feels a lot like 01. Just does. Um not gonna win. They didn't have to go to the wild card in 01 because they won a division and then you know they had the at that time at the the two seed, you still could um buy yeah, still get a bye. Um so that that was cool. But you know, for them to beat Oakland, and once again, people can make the jokes now about the Raiders. Um we were growing up, um, Rich Gannon, Jerry Rice, Tim Brown, Charlie Garner, um, Charles Wilson, um they had a team. And it and they proved it because I mean again they got smoked in the Super Bowl, but they got to the Super Bowl the next year. Um, so that team was really good that we beat. Um with no head coach. Right, exactly. Then you go right, then you go up there, um, then you go to Pittsburgh, and at the time, you know, um at that time, my favorite non Patriot was Coreell Stewart, aka slash. You had Jerome Bettis, Emma Zaraway, Hines Ward, Jason Gildon, Joey Porter, um, William Gay. Uh, so they they had they had some guys there at that time too. Coming there, you win 24-17. Um, you know, Drew Blesso saved the legacy early on. You know, he gets forgotten, but not on here because we always give him that the foul was there. That's right. Um, and then obviously you beat Devontae uh, you know, offense with the Rams. So like this feels very similar to that. Very similar. Very similar. Um, right now we're still likable in most people's eyes because they had this this iteration hasn't done much, but rest of sure if they get two out of three or they get you know three out of four, whatever. Um, or even three out of five. Like, you know, they'll they'll be right in the villain category. And I want that. I need that uh more than anything.

Michael Marcangelo: 42:44

Um yeah, we haven't done this pod as a uh as fans of the best team in the league.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 42:49

Like we started this boy in football, yeah.

Michael Marcangelo: 42:52

But yes, we started this six months after our world fell apart uh with Tom Prady leaving. Right. So uh listen, if you thought we were insufferable before, man.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 43:04

Like yeah, listen, y'all, y'all thought I was bad when the substance went, and I was when the subters won in 24, because you know, we got her, we were hurt in 22, um, when they lost, and you know, which is crazy that that's still our most watched on YouTube that y'all listened to me and Dave and Bobby cry uh online. So screw y'all, but thank y'all for listening. Uh um, but if you thought if you thought I was bad in 24 when we won, and that's another thing too. Uh if we find a way to get to the conference finals with with JB as the number one, I'm about to be out of pocket too. Because listen, let me tell you, because he he's been on the tear, but we're we can we can talk about that another time. But um, yeah, I'm I'm I'm right there with you. Like if they if they get back there and they and they and they host that trophy, just just when you thought it was safe. Just when you thought it was safe, you know, we're back, like just when you thought it was safe.

Michael Marcangelo: 43:57

Patriots now head into mile high as five and a half point favorites, and usually the home team gets three point spreads. So they think that this is gonna be an eight-point game, right? Uh ESPN has given the Patriots a 58% chance to win this game, which means that there are people within the organization that that that give Denver a 42% chance to win this game. Right. Um, let me just ask you, real quick, Ray. What's your reaction if we lose?

Rayshawn Buchanan: 44:31

Well, people have to watch and stay tuned. Like, well, for one, I'd I'd be limited, so I'm not gonna stay in here and say, um, like there'd be no other response worthy. Like, no, no more victory, no, oh, you know, good job, guys. Um, even if Bonex was healthy, like, no.

Michael Marcangelo: 44:54

Like, I'm I'm different than you there. If bo if Bo Nix is playing this game, like we're it's house money at this point. But now, like backup quarterback.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 45:02

I don't feel that way because I still don't I I wouldn't have trusted Bo Nicks. Um I think that obviously he's done what he needed to do at times, but I always felt like I to me his ceiling is not what Drake May's ceiling is. I think that he's really good.

Michael Marcangelo: 45:16

Yeah.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 45:17

Um to me, Bo Nicks is in the mode of Ryan Tanner. Now he's better than Tan Hill. No, I'm saying, but I think he's he's in that he's in that category. Um, not someone that's gonna go up there and completely win it. Um but he won't always lose you the game either. So he's in that mode, which is fine. Um But once again, we've been road dogs all year. But like I said, to if if that was the case where this is the first road loss, um it would it would it would look like to me, like I say it would leave a bad taste in my mouth because I must say it did progress this year, and all jokes aside, it's on the several planet for you to win this. It is. Um, we could we can say we want you players in front of you, which is true, but it's on the several times for you to to get the job done. And like literally all you have to do is play close to mistake-free football.

Michael Marcangelo: 46:11

Like Which they have not done, but in these games so far.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 46:16

If you play, but what they've usually done on the road, um they haven't always started fast, but when they catch fire, it's usually ball game. Right. Yeah, there'll be added pressure, but what we've seen from Drake May is that whenever the pressure mounts up so far, um he may succumb to it in a moment, but it's you don't get the same guy twice. You just don't. And I think that if they're gonna if they're gonna blitz Drake May, good good luck. Good luck. He's gonna he's gonna find the open guy. Um if you play man um or play curve, too, he's he may run for the first down on you. Um he's virtually unguardable. Unless he unless he goes into gunslinger mode. But he's virtually unguardable. Um so I'd say I I wonder what they what they do defensively. I think they're gonna be more aggressive. I think we should use that against them. I think in the first 15 plays that are scripted, I think that you know, three out of the 15 players that's about 20%, or it's 20%, I should say. I think 20% of those players should be should be a screen.

Michael Marcangelo: 47:36

Cover one, cover zero.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 47:37

Well, no, the cover no the cover zero, but say I feel like for us, we should run a screen. Oh yeah. Oh I'm you know, let them rush up the field. And that's how I was looking, I was hoping they did more of that this Sunday, because you had Daniel Hunter, you had um Bill Anderson. Let them rush up the field. You throw that, you throw that screen. Trey Henderson's a home run hitter. Receive Ramadre Stevenson, when he gets ahead of steam, he can make some people miss, run somebody over, and get 20 to 30, sometimes 40 yards. So like this should be a Kevin Folk, James White, you know, when they when those get the JR remnants of the world when they have those type of games, um you you would you would become defeated because you're like, damn, we stopped Patton, we stopped Troy Brown, we stopped whoever. Now it's like, damn, now Kevin Folk was getting five catches for 70 yards, or James White getting nine for 116, whatever. Like, so um that's that's what I would want to see. And hopefully, um hopefully they they incorporate more of that. Um because they did they did they did get cute towns on Sunday and it cost them. Um you don't have to be cute. When they're on and Drake's rolling, they're damn near unstoppable. And that's that's not an opinion. That's that's a that's a fact.

Michael Marcangelo: 48:58

Yeah, just give Drake a chance to complete like four or five out of his, you know, his first passes, and we've seen what happens. Like he he loves momentum. Now he can start momentum in the second half, but it has not seemed to matter when. Um, but when you get him off to a fast start, yeah, this team also like it has a negative connotation and it happened with us against Buffalo, but the Patriots this year are front runners. Yeah, like they love I am putting up 21 in the first you know, 18 minutes of the game and then coasting. Uh I think you do that, then you then you unlock your defense's ability to be really, really aggressive uh with with Jared Stidham and have you know the Broncos saying exactly what the Chargers were saying, that we had no idea what the defense is doing. We had no clue what what they were in. Uh that's what I want to get back to. A couple of things. Uh Matt Collins is scheduled to be healthy for this game. Terrell Jennings scheduled to be healthy for this game. Joshua Farmer coming off of IR. So we should be getting healthy enough at the time. Um and J.K. Dobbins for uh for the Broncos could be back in here. So what what is your prediction for this game? Give me a score. Not and do with your head, because earlier you were like, yeah, 41-17.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 50:17

No, with my head, um I'm gonna say 28-17. 28-17 New England. Um I think I think it'll be more back and forth than we think early on, and we'll we'll lose our me too.

Michael Marcangelo: 50:34

Which I will, yeah.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 50:35

And then Drake will have what he's done all year is make the play when he needs to, and it'll find Henry, it'll find um, you know, someone deep. Um, I actually just like I thought it would be the Hunter Henry and Pop Douglas game this week, I think this becomes the Stefan Diggs game um on Sunday. Um I know Sertane will be there. I know Surtain is awesome. Um, but I think between Diggs and Um and even Away K-Shine Booty, I think, I think those guys get off on Sunday. Um, and I think Trey Henderson has a big game on Sunday as well. I think those are the big three. So Diggs, Booty, and um, and and Henderson.

Michael Marcangelo: 51:17

So I had it at 30 to 17. Okay, because I do think I do think I but I think the first half is gonna be fucking merciless on me. I don't I don't I I already hate my life in the first half, but I do see like this could go like 10-10 at halftime, and I'm like, I want to slam my you know fucking phone down. But if everything goes the way that it should go, listen, I think Sean Payne's a great coach. I hate him. I don't like him. He's the most hateable coach that's left in the playoffs for me. Um I just think if if it's I I I think our offense is better than their defense, and I think that our defense is better than their offense. Yeah. So I mean, that should be enough for uh that should be enough. So the Patriots should put up 30 points. NFC game, NFC West, four for the for the NFC title, Seattle, uh two and a half point home favorites. So essentially it's a pick'em.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 52:10

Right. So my my head, my head says Seattle, but my heart wants LA. Um just from my narrative. But I um I'm I'm I'm gonna do over Seattle. I think Seattle wins um I'm gonna say 31-24 Seattle.

Michael Marcangelo: 52:34

I mean, I I'm gonna I'm I'm gonna do the Rams, and I'm gonna say it's gonna be 31-28. Uh, so I think it's gonna be a real close game at the end. Uh, either way, if if we're both right, we're getting a Super Bowl rematch one way or the other. It will either be the Patriots Seahawks but Patriots Rams, and if we're both right. Uh so by the my last words to to to the Pats and to Pat's fans out there is yeah, we have been spoiled over the last 25 years, even 26 years now. Uh don't take this for granted. You have a chance to go to the Super Bowl in Drake May's second year, and the stars are aligning for that to happen. So they need to do this. I mean, I don't want to say do your of all that shit, but like get to the Super Bowl. Because if that happens, I mean, I think with all the cap space that we have left, everything, it doesn't even matter what happens in that game, although I I would obviously want them to win, the future will be very fucking bright for the Newland Patriots.

Rayshawn Buchanan: 53:30

Well, I mean, it's it's either gonna be the 22 Celtics or what we saw in 24. Everyone, everything when the Celtics won in 24, you know, same thing, right? They didn't play anybody, and they just keep, you know, they they didn't they haven't got there, and St. M always shrinks, and Brown is out of getting number two, and and what Porzingas won't do this, he won't be back in time. And then game one came in, and Porzingis lit their ass up, and it was the series was over in game one. So, okay, like we we could talk all the noise you want to talk. You have to play the game, you have to play, and you play was in front of you, and just like everyone picked Dallas a couple years ago to be Boston. I'm sure if New England gets there, they're gonna pick either Seattle or LA. So that's cool, that's fine. And we can hear whoever's doing it on the radio and being introduced as a team for the for the 2025. You're a New England Patriots. And see you February 8th. Let's go.

Michael Marcangelo: 54:38

We got to get there, but until next week for Hollywood Rich Town and Buchanan, this is Michael Marcangelo saying thank you so much for listening to Missing the Point. And we'll talk to you after the title game.