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#1 Super Bowl The Mecca of Advertising

August 03, 2020 Jonathan Rolley, Dr. Jared Cooney Horvath Episode 1
The Science of Advertising Show
#1 Super Bowl The Mecca of Advertising
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Snickers | Cheetos | Jeep | Rocket Mortgage | Amazon | Google

On today's episode we are talking all things Super Bowl - the mecca of advertising. Big money, big spenders, it's all on the line! We analyse the stand out 2020 Super Bowl ads from Snickers, Cheetos, Jeep, Rocket Mortgage, Amazon and Google. 

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yeah that kind of scared that's what we do yeah everything shuts down and you

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watch the game totally totally welcome to the first

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edition of the science of advertising Johnathan Rolley here and Dr. Jared well

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today we're gonna talk to slowly and awkwardly well welcome to the first

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episode of the science of advertising with Jonathan Rolley and Dr. Jared we're

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here to talk all things Superbowl the mecca of advertising big money big

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celebrities it's all on the line big stakes

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so during the Super Bowl just some quick numbers for you 50 for brands

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advertising this year being 20/20 they spent a total of 435 million and for us

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in Australia six hundred and fifty mil a 30-second clip was just shy of five

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point six mil u.s. or nearly eight and a half ozzie so this year

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interesting to note long firm long-form commercials so we're talking 1690s 120s

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featured really heavily so 24 out of the 59 spots in the game were actually

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long-form lasting more than 60 seconds they had to pay double the rate triple

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the rate totally so they use 30 seconds pro rata and they just basically buying

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two three days or but it's really interesting because you're seeing the

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market the markets really shifting towards short form so 15-second even

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like six second format and that's the media outlets pushing that as well yeah

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because it's great for them because they can charge premium and it's a short

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imagery so you know in a 60-second spot you can sell ten advertisers rather than

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to advertisers but if two advertisers are willing to pay the price of ten

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advertisers man totally I'd say no but it's interesting because yo you know

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high stakes but we need longer form to actually tell a story connect engage

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everything else whereas you go the market especially DG markets going I

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friends got shorter attentions how do we try and cram our message into a second

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format and you wonder to whet those prices if that's not a move from the big

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companies to say well cool you're gonna sell 150 ads but if I can buy up a huge

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chunk of that time that's 50 ads that my competitors can

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by that some small company can't sneak in with so it's probably less

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advertising on their part more just making sure no one else is advertising

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well it could be that as well but interesting to note here as well

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interesting the biggest category was car manufacturers so they purchased if you

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look in all the car brands yeah it was nearly 20% of all Super Bowl inventory

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was purchased by the autos you know so it's a a category or they just go we

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must play there yeah in terms of production so this is how much the

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brands actually spent on producing the ads so the Brewers Budweiser they spent

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41 million US producing their ad so that on the number one followed by Pepsi

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coming in at 31 mill again US for one ad for what this is producing so talent

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production probably all together at the creative followed by P&G 30 mil Amazon

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at 26 or us you know so they're spending more on their production and creative

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yeah by considerable factor compared to the inventory you know just goes to show

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that getting that right is so important the interests thing about that we're

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gonna review a few ads today and dig into the detail why they're great why

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they're not and what worked what didn't and most of the brands are just called

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out then don't actually feature in our list and especially with the media

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pundits and the experts they're not talking about most of those brands

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Bonnie's on Amazon did make the list so really interesting it's not how much you

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spend it's what you do with the idea so you've got a 40 million dollar

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commercial and no one referenced afterwards not didn't feature in sort of

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the top 10 that most people were talking yeah you know but having said that this

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is kind of the mecca as a creative director it's kind of the ultimate and

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you've got you know somewhat unlimited budgets to go to town with so what do

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you want to do with unlimited budgets how do I get the biggest talent how do I

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get the celebrities I've always wanted to work with how do I create a crazy

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idea and pull it together you know how do I make or just a generic car driving

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down a road for 40 million dollars hey there's corruption everywhere you know

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some of those directories hey where you going with that all right the game

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itself poured ninety-nine point nine million from linear TV

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and just 2.6 from streaming so this is an event that everyone Tunes in live so

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they're watching a linear you know so just over two and a half percent there

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there abouts so this actually made it the second least watch Super Bowl in the

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last decade really yeah so so 99 million is a drop a drop

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what was its highest ena highest sits close to 120 your average is about 110

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you know so it's about 10 percent short but more to do not so much with the

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event itself you've got more who is actually

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featuring in the game yeah that's a when you take out the big teams the birds the

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Tom Brady's the Steelers totally and we've got the Chiefs so let's just say

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that's a big ticket team right there to be fair they do have the best football

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player right now in their quarterback the best guy on the field all around but

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really it's it's a smaller market team it's not a little a team it's not it's

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not an East Coast team sorry it's not just sports don't you I do let's talk

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about the San Francisco night 49ers man what are you dear what a year my how

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would you sell up the year then for the Niners or for the Chiefs for the NHANES

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totally unexpectedly awesome like we all knew they were gonna be good but we

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didn't think they'd be that good yes they were they had done their rebuild

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and they kind of did that Moneyball thing where they changed up the way they

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manage their team and rebrand they changed their story their team story and

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how they work with their players and those either are like huge hits are huge

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misses and theirs was a huge hit so everyone kind of assumed they were gonna

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win but to be fair I had the Chiefs do you had to chase the Chiefs have a huge

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chip on their shoulder but the Niners they weren't ready for it yet they'll be

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there next year they're gonna be just as good as they were this year and now that

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they've got it under their belt they're gonna probably walk away so you actually

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peaked chase oh yes I did so I was the one guy in my family to actually make

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money this year on unlike last year unlike the last 20 20 years this is my

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second Super Bowl hit since 2000 yeah this is interesting cuz it's like what's

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Jared cuz whatever he puts money on do the opposite put money on the exact

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opposite yeah so this one instance I was totally

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right and I'm gonna I'm gonna talk this out the rest of the year you on it being

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a mad Patriots fan mmm are you a Pats man no I'm a Steelers fan oh it's very

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I'm more than Pittsburgh there you go there you go um so in terms of total

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audience 102 ml total so it is about a 10% drop now adds here's what we're

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talking about today so we've poured a collection of the most

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talked about ads or what most of the creative directors have deemed to be the

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best ads there there abouts that's what we're really going to dig in today in

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terms of looking at them what's good about them what's not so good or just

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even the principles that sit behind them especially why I'm so grateful that

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you're actually here especially with your background looking at you know the

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science of memory how it forms what that looks like you know looking at the

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principles of what these creatives are looking to try and do and how that

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correlates to memory and for us we see a direct correlation with memory to

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performance ultimately ads are here to sell stuff if we're not gonna be selling

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stuff there's no point you're just creating a

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bit of art for the piece of art's sake do you know what I mean and potentially

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quite a few of these not so much here today but a lot of ads do fall in that

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category of people trying to fulfill their artistic endeavor which is lovely

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but that's not the primary purpose of an ad I know but if you want to be an

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artist go and buy an easel and paint a picture

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don't waste tens of millions of dollars your brand you know fulfilling your

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artistic potential there so you know I just what we're here to talk about you

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know so big budgets big brands is kind of unlimited scope but the really

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interesting thing as soon as you have that most creative directors go to the

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fallback so what's the fall back fall back is very much using celebrity how do

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I buy the biggest brands that money can get and leverage that talent they're

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also looking at you know a bit of nostalgia whether it's movies whether

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it's you know something that's there and try and leverage that as well so this is

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kind of the ads that all the way through ad school is a young creative you know

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you've got these visions of shooting big ads big budgets this is kind of your own

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Super Bowl of advertising you know you've made it so

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the scope is on somewhat unlimited so it's all the bigger big names and big

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ideas anyone famous from anywhere sort of features but um there was a nice

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cross-section of celebrity endorsement this year might huge but that was kind

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of the focus for that everyone went to the fallback was celebrity and he say

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year in year out that it's celebrity celebrity celebrity celebrity I remember

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it was about 10 15 years ago they went through a non-celebrity phase during the

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Superbowl ads where they were going through that really remember when music

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went from like pop music into kind of indie yeah weird and everyone just had

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to be strange I remember like a chunk of time where the ads were all just strange

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I heard there was one my all-time favorite super I couldn't even tell you

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what the heck this is for but it was it was the back of a moving van and it had

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two old dudes just clapping totally out of beat and a monkey in between them

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dancing and that was 30 seconds and the end of the ad said we just wasted two

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million dollars what are you doing with your money and that that passed as a

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viable super will add that year so I'm I'm glad we've kind of swung out of that

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just be weird for weird sake but the celebrity thing you had you're walking a

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fine line when you play that game yeah well that'll be interesting to talk

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about so the first one that we're gonna look at today is Snickers so Snickers is

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bein a brand that's heavily featured Super Bowl for many many years and this

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is kind of a new approach for them so if we have a look at Nick is where they're

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everyone's texting dirty pink baby

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robocalls up in the mix so we're being the world Oh Snickers yep

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will it work milk keeps getting reinvented autocorrect dis so demented

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the surveillance states got brand new trail we don't seriously

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Oh

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the Snickers hoe is working I dig because my son still lives with us

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my 32 year old part-time DJ son

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at Louise Guzman who came in at the end of that so there was a celebrity

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endorsement it just happened to be Louisa goos man ooh I didn't I didn't

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first time I wash I didn't notice that Louisa Guzman was at the end of it it's

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a hundred percent him so that is celebrity endorsement celebrity

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endorsement even he acknowledges celebrity endorsement okay I'll take

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love it so what was your ad take from that so you can tell what they're doing

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with this right they're taking the piss from the old coca-cola commercial which

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we took a look up was 1971 I thought it was after that but 1971 had the coke

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commercial yeah and the entire point of that it was riding off the back of the

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McDonald's two all-beef patties special sauce let's get a song so let me let's

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start here you get a jingle that features the name of your product people

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start singing that jingle the reason what happens is with memory step number

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one if you want a deep lasting accessible memory it's all about what we

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call recall how are you pulling at information up I can shove it into your

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brain all day but if you start thinking about it if you start accessing it

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yourself that's when the memory gets deep so the whole point of a jingle is

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to get somebody to sing your song for you and now they're stuck with you're

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there your brand your idea in their head so go back to the do we have the

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coca-cola ad yeah we do so let's take a quick look at that one I like to buy the

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world of home

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turtle dolls I like to teach the world to save me

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so it's cool with that one is you have to put yourself kind of in the mindset

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and hear what they're doing is they're building their brand their name into a

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jingle that's somebody else we still sing to this day and they're appealing

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to the new market which is the 70s market everyone's anti-war they're

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saying yeah here we're with you so you're talking the coke add milk add

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yeah ok so they're saying our generation young the upcoming generation is like

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this let's speak to them let's have them sing this song wonderful cut to the

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sneakers at let's take a piss on something from 50 years ago which

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already is a bit of a gamble because I guarantee you half the people they're

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talking to have no clue that that was a coca-cola ad so they don't quite get the

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connection an old fogey like us we're like yeah I've seen that I know why

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you're doing this but to make mint so they've got their song they've got their

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jingle everything seems to be working well the one thing that's gonna be a bit

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of an issue with this one I actually love the jingle singing the Snickers in

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it fantastic they're talking about things that people love talking

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activating memories oh we've all had the selfie problem we've all had the Alexa

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problem we get this problem is as today's generation is all about hit and

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miss move on to the next thing get a cool meme get a really cool

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something that's funny in 24 hours later and never talk about it again

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so by appealing to that generation with this that are almost saying please

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forget that we exist yeah the world sucks you remember this yeah meme

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generation hahahaha guarantee you 72 hours later no kids gonna be singing

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that song because it taps into the wrong aspects of our generation the negative

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aspects of things we don't want to talk about the things we dislike whereas

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that's interesting because you're saying that this taps into a lot of the

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negative things that we don't like about this generation whereas you go back to

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the Coke ad which I think was 51 there abouts 50 years ago yeah 50 years ago

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that was nearly the opposite that was kind of like a movement for good in a

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way the peaceful stuff it save let's say Snickers makes a song that says let's

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help the environment let's make things better that's when the young generation

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will say okay I'm gonna sing that song now is it manipulative probably is it

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still advertising yes but at least of what you're doing then is you've got

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this positive which is gonna lead the next generation

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in that way to keep using it but what they do instead is they just do the

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here's all the things you hate we all giggle go I do hate those things on to

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the next meme what else is funny about the world it's it's Neil postman used to

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call it the and now this moment where they get you to enjoy something in

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giggle and laugh and now this and then just change topics and you'll never

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think about this again and that's what I worry they're hitting with got it does

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that kind of make sense I totally get it for me like I totally agree with you

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there's probably some parts that I like about it you know I think they've used

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call it prediction break or humor you know there's a lot of things especially

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as you watch it the first time that hit you they just not expecting do you know

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and I mean you're just kind of sitting there like what's coming next what's

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coming next is this is constant sort of it keeps you on the edge you see it a

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little bit just constantly interrupt your pattern so for me it really held

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attention all the way through yeah you know with a bit of humor and you know

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you did have some celebrity endorsement there as well or a celebrity anchor that

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we like to call it you know but humor featured pretty much throughout you know

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but it had that theme and it also had call it acoustic coding so it had song

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you know for me I'm actually curious in terms of when you talk jingle or song

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how much frequency do you need for someone to actually hear a song before

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they start repeating it I would love to say that there's a hard answer on that

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but there it's gonna be different across the board it has to do a with catchiness

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and be with will say context within which you're playing with yeah so you

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you you could have the best song in the world but if it doesn't have call the

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cadence that this is gonna sound very weird so bear with me so your brain has

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natural frequencies that it works on one of those is typically called a theta

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frequency that's the frequency of thought of change of action of doing

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something different up here I'm building a new memory I'm tweaking an old memory

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any song that kind of hits that theta frequency will start to naturally bounce

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in your head and then you'll start to you'll be more inclined to start singing

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that because it's a frequency my brain already sits at and we call it

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entrainment I start to think in the beat of your song and off we go

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if a song doesn't hit a natural brain rhythm you can't get that entrainment so

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step one you've got to have the right I'll sing a song more off

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if it's got that catchy beat what's a catchy beats something that isn't

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trained with a natural pattern of my brain but then you've got a context

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I'll s'more app to sing a song if I'm with my friends and it's something that

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I like and somebody gave it to me and it's at a club and all my kids are

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singing it and oh it's so hip because now it's cultural now it's contextual I

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have a reason for it yeah I'm less likely to sing a song if

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the world around me isn't singing it this is why pop songs kind of make it

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big so the coke thing oddly enough go even before coke if we're just talking

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jingles to that McDonald's one the whole reason they had that jingle for the

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quarter pounder was the commercial said now go to your local McDonald's sing

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them this song and if you sing it right you're gonna get a free coke have a good

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time so they forced you to sing it to get a free product and everyone wants a

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free product to see if it's gonna work and that's why everyone starts singing

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it they had a reason I had a context to sing it Snickers I think we had a

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context to sing it if we're watching it during the Superbowl

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are you also gonna remember most of us are gonna be pretty drunk so we'll sing

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it during the Superbowl but will anyone sing it the next day I don't know

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so how long do they sustain that commercial in play after the Superbowl

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to keep us kind of humming it and then turning it into a longer form joke

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totally like I think this is an interesting follow-up from Snickers you

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know their previous ads that have featured heavily you know humor but that

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was kind of running with the context when you're not hungry do you know what

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I mean you know I'm sorry you're not you you're not you when you're hungry

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do you know oh that's oh is this their first switch from that so that being

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yeah so they've moved from you're not you when you're hungry yes they've been

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running for quite some time which it was very successful we've got a lot of

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attention but really simple idea there's different context you know and this is

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kind of an interesting transition from that because now it's kind of like the

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world's not you you know because of what we've done to it in a way so we need a

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feeder to Snickers that's the long bill do you know so this is kind of like yeah

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but unless you look at it in a lot of detail or you kind of like do I join the

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dots on not until you said that I didn't I get it I get the dots now

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but I hadn't yeah right I thought this was a pivot but this is just an

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extension of their you're not yourself so there you go you were going back to

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this is going back fifty years ago whereas they might have leveraged part

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of that but it might be part of their evolution of going you're not you when

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you're hungry the world's not itself at the moment we need to feed it Snickers

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and hopefully all their problems go away why didn't they just maintain the same

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system that they have that everyone knows is about to happen in you're not

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yourself here's something being weird we say you're not yourself eat a Snickers

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here and how you're getting better by wrapping it in a song I totally missed

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that why didn't they just use their same language of the same brand is it that's

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they've kind of yeah they've kind of moved away from that brand or that

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identity to try and create and evolve but it may be just too much of a stretch

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and it's now it's its own entity rather than evolution and people may not join

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the dots which means the heritage of the old stuff is now gone so I'd be curious

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so this was about a couple weeks ago this comes out are they still are they

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sticking on this train do you know we don't know because we won't say we

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probably won't really know until next year's Superbowl you know that comes out

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but it could be an extension to this although we'll transition away allow you

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to be interesting guys this the theme they're gonna run with now or is this

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just that a once-off yeah and circle back to what we know

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works totally yeah so you know the Snickers all again like I actually quite

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likely out likely execution I think there's a lot there yeah yeah you know

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it's bizarre bit kooky but the more you watch it the more detail it is you can

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see they've really sort of thought through it yeah but yeah interesting

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execution the next one I'll also for me like this is a two-minute ad which one

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do a Snickers one yeah next one the Snickers was a two-minute song it's our

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two-minute execution so this is one of the longer forms that we've seen do in

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Super Bowl so it's super expensive in terms of infantry but they kind of

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needed that to take you on the journey and tell you the story and and get you

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there as well I think they just stuffed it for so much of you know modern

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culture or what's there and the piss-take yeah I think they just got so

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wrapped up in how much of a piss-take can we make on everything in modern

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society and they just wanted to put more and more

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more in it and it may have lost that really sort of simple idea do you know

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which became a bit complex because you got a new song that you've got to

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introduce you've got to try and follow the theme at the end of it it's not

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really to the end the feeding the world a giant Snickers bar that it kind of

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tries to pull it all together so it can be itself again oh so iWeb you're right

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I do like the long form I like the fact that they gave us enough of a song that

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we can sing it that we can jingle it they've got Lyra they've got verses so

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maybe we go back maybe we write our own verses was the idea but I don't know if

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it's ever gonna work I know I know the question is can you sing my song now all

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I know is feed the world of Snickers dick winning it we had the right cadence

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by the way the the pacing of it was the same reason they did the pacing on the

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coke commercial was the exact same pacing which is your theory that rhythm

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about yeah yeah right her mill on the interval of 50 beats per minute so when

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you're looking at jingles it's important that you're looking at that guidance yo

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otherwise it just won't in code to me that's why some of them sticks so damn

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even whether you wanted to or not it has nothing to do with the song itself it's

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just that it hits that right bum-bum-bum that syncopation so baby shock which one

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was babies York but anyway next up we've got Cheetos so Cheetos for me this

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actually comes in quite highly yeah I really like this execution for several

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reasons but let's have a look at Cheetos now

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cheetos has popcorn now hey I'm gonna need you to nevermind ok touch this

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can't touch this can't touch this can't touch this nope I trust you I touched it

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noot Eagles popcorn it's a Cheetos thing alright she dies

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for me there's a lot to like about it first and foremost it really plays on

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nostalgia you know it's a song that you know for some of us who really grew up

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with you know very sticky in memory as well we know we've already gonna finish

25:44

it to it so we like it and they're leveraging off that asset as well as

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well as MC Hammer like who doesn't have MC Hammer especially those pants well

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debatable but really really simple is what I love about it and it's very well

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executed all the way through and it goes through several different scenes so

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reinforce is it three four times one thing I really love about it it's you

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can see that they've owned some of their own characteristics you eat Cheetos

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you've got Cheetos on your hand so you can tonight do you know what I mean but

26:13

what they've done is just made that as part of their call it a trademark

26:16

branded ice it whatever it is can't touch this you know and you can see kids

26:21

sitting there and moms are asking them just going can you get up and do your

26:24

homework can't touch this do you know I mean can

26:26

you help you know can't touch this you know I mean and the kids will then

26:29

really leverage that saying attach it to Cheetos do you know what I mean and that

26:35

becomes a bit of fun and once you start doing that like we were just talking

26:38

about that then becomes a habit a trait a memory that's pretty forms badass so

26:43

if you think about the the fingered thing that's so what we'll call that as

26:47

an experiential memory that's not a name of a brand that's not the colors of a

26:52

brand that's not the logo of a brand that's an experience you have if you've

26:55

ever engaged with that brand and the experience now has become a brand anyone

27:00

who has ever eaten Cheetos immediately recognizes that so when you see the

27:04

orange hands the first thing you do is you start pulling up

27:06

own memories of Cheetos and now we're in that was such a smart move on their part

27:10

to say okay we're gonna use the one thing everyone has felt has literally

27:14

memories of in their own life we're gonna start using that as our hook

27:18

totally and I think going one step beyond that I think the how clever it

27:23

actually is is you've got a lot of people that have nostalgia with MC

27:26

Hammer in that song that of eating Cheetos when they were younger but they

27:29

may not have touched a pack you know in 20 years they may go out and experience

27:34

Cheetos again just to relive it or experience and that particular you know

27:39

I just want to pack Cheetos now but they're not introduce it to the kids

27:42

that may not officer have had Cheetos before as well so it's interesting in

27:47

terms of the play of how it all come together and that's even you can only

27:50

play the nostalgia card with memories we have interact there are very few brands

27:55

that I can think of or products that would have that easy of a hook anyone

28:00

who's ever touched our product will know exactly what we're talking about here

28:03

and you're absolutely right it then brings me back to my own memories oh my

28:06

god damn those are pretty damn good the one thing I will say this it doesn't the

28:11

idea that a Cheetos popcorn might not come out that might take a couple more

28:14

iterations for me to recognize popcorns that that's also fascinating you say

28:19

that because for me I've seen this now I think third time yeah I didn't even know

28:23

us for a new product do you know I just got Ito's and I got hands and that was

28:26

my takeaway you know as cheeto hands can touch cheese you know and that was my

28:30

what I see that it's it's actually because they have a new kind of but I

28:34

don't think they care no they don't care at all I think it was an excuse to get a

28:37

budget for a new product but then to rainfalls to 2009 when actually I think

28:41

the genius in it it's not about the new product it's how do we build Cheetos

28:45

again bring the memories back online and you're right and what they've done to is

28:49

wonderful use that they've tied the MC Hammer with the Cheetos so the Cheetos

28:53

they didn't have to work too hard for they have their simple thing MC Hammer

28:56

we've got a very cadence heavy very simple song that's very nostalgic to us

29:00

we have these two completely unrelated memory networks that they've now tied

29:04

together and they're gonna force us to start playing with it you know just like

29:09

you said with kids it's gonna happen and watch what happened now now we've got a

29:12

larger memory network for this any time you hear the song you're thinking of

29:15

that they have themselves a new branding slogan can't touch that now I've got

29:20

I've got something I do with their product it's me playing the joke myself

29:25

that's never thing that was that was tight like I like it

29:28

you know there's a lot to like in there um so next up we have Jeep so let's have

29:33

a quick look at Jeep they're created for Super Bowl that's different

30:08

hey you got a breeze to death okay nurse see your mark

30:16

safety first it's not personal it's just a game

30:27

not a bad day huh

30:33

I don't know where we parked I was following you all right said that was J

30:39

Jared curious to get your thoughts I love that commercial yes here's what

30:46

they've done very well with this so we were talking earlier about memory

30:50

Network so the way memory works is you don't just have a memory for thing every

30:54

memory we have is tied to a bunch of other memories we call associations so

30:58

you can consider memory like a giant web we call it a scheme Atta and once you

31:02

tickle one note on that web you get what's called spreading activation you

31:06

just get these ripples that go out and they start activating all these sub side

31:10

memories that go oh hey what about that so when I say the word mother you don't

31:14

just think of mother you start thinking of it maybe the movie mother maybe that

31:18

time your mom did that thing now I'm thinking about jelly beans when she gave

31:21

me jelly and you just start spreading your memory out what this ad does so

31:26

well is it starts by hitting a major node they know you're gonna have that

31:29

nostalgia node if you've ever seen Groundhog Day it's a film in the US

31:32

that's on every year Groundhog Day so I know you've seen it now you have this

31:37

rippling effect any time you think of Groundhog Day you'll think about where

31:40

you watched it your first Thanksgiving you with all these other memories what

31:43

jeep then does is they sneaked in and they put their brand right next to the

31:48

major node right next to the primary nodes so anytime you see Groundhog Day

31:52

in the future one of the very first things you're

31:54

gonna think about is that jeep commercial shit whether you want to or

31:59

not it's in there they've tied a memory that you love a film that you love a

32:03

character that you love so closely now to a product that anytime you see it

32:08

you're gonna see it at least once a year in the u.s. one of the first things

32:10

you're going to think about is remember when he did that ad for Jeep about this

32:14

movie so I fade by tying their brand to a memory they know you have they've

32:20

essentially hijacked your memory Network and that's a very powerful thing one of

32:24

the best ways I ever saw this done was it was I back in Pittsburgh they had an

32:30

ad which says do you like your pet we like pets too here come show us your

32:35

favorite picture of your pet will give you 50% off your blinds and and windows

32:39

cool so you can assume sweet 15% off but what happens is I take my one favorite

32:44

memory and I go give it to them and now every time I look at that

32:48

picture of my dog which I look at a lot I'm also going to buy spreading

32:52

activation I don't have a choice one of the first things that's gonna pop up

32:54

with it is the association of blinds and windows I mean god it's been 20 years

32:58

and I still remember that thing Wow so they took a memory activated it and

33:02

notice they didn't even show Jeep for about the first 30 seconds they

33:04

activated your memory got you sitting in it and then they snuck themselves in

33:08

popped themselves in and now you're sorry they win well the interesting

33:13

thing about you loving this ad and looking at some numbers behind it you

33:17

know some real data huh yeah this actually really over-index and actually

33:22

took that number one spot for the ad receive the most online mentions so it's

33:27

got 47 thousand online mentions in terms of online chat yeah which out of the

33:32

entire Superbowl chat so Super Bowl and talking ads and everything else that was

33:37

about 6 percent of entire Super Bowl chat was talking about this talking

33:42

about this commercial you know so huge in many different respects but I also

33:47

think you know in terms of leveraging Bill Murray Groundhog Day all the rest

33:51

of it yes it really taps in nostalgia but it has its own mini story in there

33:55

you know it's kind of got bill it has that 20 seconds sort of setting the

33:59

stage taps in nostalgia but here's a platform then it goes into all let's

34:04

introduce jeep rubicon do you know very different but for me also the product

34:10

preference so this is when we're looking at simulation you know of you driving a

34:15

car it's got the Rubicon in action do you know it's in its nature native

34:19

environment which is out in the outdoors you know it's sliding around corners

34:23

it's going up mountains you know so for me you also tie those memories of the

34:28

Jeep you know performing incredibly well in

34:32

these you know somewhat not inviting climates do you not I mean

34:37

and it's just tying those memories together so for me not only is it tapped

34:41

into the nostalgia it's tying that memory to Groundhog Day the movie you're

34:45

also seeing the Jeep in you know performing incredibly well and because

34:49

we can't tell the difference between watching you know a piece of video and

34:53

having our own experience and that's product preference in a lot of products

34:57

that's where they do Inc Fred well you know I think it's very clever

35:00

on many different fronts a family like this really has leverage celebrities

35:05

leveraged nostalgia it's leveraged product preference everything's been

35:09

taught in beautifully and it's been executed incredibly well yeah and you

35:13

write you write this the simulation I hadn't even thought about that with the

35:17

Jeep moving we're mirroring that we're mimicking that in our own brain so

35:22

that's us driving and that last shot where the ground hog the air is in the

35:25

ground hogs hair we're feeling that we're feeling that relaxation we're

35:30

feeling that cool air we're feeling that freshness coming into our and lo and B I

35:34

will remember that little groundhog doing that little thing because I just

35:38

lived it myself so that was a I thought that was so that got 6% of everything

35:43

yeah six percent of online chat so for me it's like it's a greater it's a gem

35:48

of an idea like it's a brewing idea and it's been executed incredibly well so

35:52

for me like to get Bill Murray to do it that was probably their their crowning

35:56

glory to get that guy out of his room to come do something good on you totally

36:00

gray all right next up we have Jason Momoa so let's have a look at Jason in

36:07

action what is homey

36:14

it's my sanctuary it's the one place I can let my guard down so I can just kick

36:26

back and be totally comfortable in my own skin you know I'm saying

36:30

rocket mortgage understands that home that's where I can be myself and that

36:38

feels pretty darn good Oh

36:46

home is where you feel the most comfortable and rocket mortgage helps

36:50

you feel comfortable financing that home with a personalized and convenient

36:54

experience centered around you rocket mortgage push button get mortgage

37:08

alright so this is a very fascinating one for me cuz this is one many at

37:14

experts actually said this was the number one trumps everything this killed

37:19

it do you know where I would agree in some aspects but I'd strongly disagree

37:24

in others so what are you thinking so for me you know Jason is absolutely the

37:29

hero all the way through this is I think probably the third or fourth time I've

37:33

seen it now and for me it was interesting on the way here this morning

37:37

like I was driving and I was going through the ad and for me all I could

37:41

remember he's Jason pulling off his arms do you know and having these skinny twee

37:46

arms which is interesting because that was obviously something that I recalled

37:48

heavily and then the second part was him pulling off his hair do you know and

37:53

that's all I could recall but for the life of me I spent the next three or

37:56

four minutes trying to recall what was the brand and I couldn't for the life of

38:02

me remember who the brand was you know so for me this is kind of the great case

38:07

of great ad I can't remember who for you know so for me that was my big take away

38:13

so I understand why some ad guys really love it because it's you know

38:16

interesting it's really unique it's it definitely gets your attention it's

38:22

funny but for me it all it does is really build Jason's profile more

38:27

it does build rockets rocket mortgages you know again I've got to look to see

38:31

you it is you know builds rocket mortgage is an interesting thing there

38:34

was actually two ads in the sequence it was a longer form which told the story

38:38

and then the second one which is Jason trying to lift a barbell you know take

38:42

it take it take it to have rocket movie so I think as though actually creating

38:46

this they knew that the tie between rocket mortgage and Jason wasn't very

38:51

strong they just like we actually need to show a really trim down version of

38:55

this to help ensure that the bridge from the creative execution to the brands

38:59

there but it didn't land never hits you know it was only in that one that I

39:03

picked up that jason says rocket mortgage in the actual ad itself I

39:07

didn't even catch that you didn't even catch that well there you go

39:10

you're spot I'm watching it I this looks more like an advertisement for Jason

39:14

mallamma to help his brand now when I go see him in a movie I'll think about this

39:18

commercial I'll say hey he's actually a funny dude in real life he takes a piss

39:21

he's yeah I like him even more than I did before it's more likeable then yeah

39:24

the one thing I'm not gonna think about is rocket mortgage so go back to the

39:28

idea of memories being vast networks schema the idea of having say a star

39:35

like him would be that when I see the star the next node that activates is

39:39

your product which means you have to very clearly link that star to your

39:44

product which I guess with mortgage would be hard because I don't know it's

39:48

not like Cheetos I can't show him eating it's not like a Jeep I can't show up

39:51

driving it so you're already at a disadvantage I don't know how you do

39:54

that but if you don't add that last note in everyone will leave saying that was

39:59

fun that was exciting I loved it I giggled I laughed what was the product

40:02

for hmm oh I didn't even notice that was a commercial for something and that

40:06

that's where you go go back to what I was talking out with the guys clapping

40:10

in the back of the truck with the monkey jumping up and down huge memory they

40:14

never tied their note to it which means somebody whoever works with Jason

40:19

Mohammad next all they have to do is put him in an ad really heavily tie their

40:24

brand to him and they can piggyback off of this ad without ever having to invest

40:28

any money in it cuz when they think about him they'll think about the next

40:30

product I'll remember that funny Superbowl ad it must have been for

40:33

Cheetos wherever he goes next they're just gonna reap the benefits of this one

40:36

yeah interesting because the other thing with this you could nearly substitute

40:41

with like a Hemsworth or the ad doesn't need a character or as if you look at

40:44

Jeep you don't Mary's the only one that can deliver that do you know what I mean

40:47

so it's Bill Murray or Groundhog Day associated to Jeep yeah you know whereas

40:52

yeah you got Jason now that he's kind of left this void of someone else could

40:56

potentially pee back and leverage that as an asset that's a really interesting

40:59

point but um yeah just to jump back on that for me it's trying to you tell this

41:06

story all the way through you've got huge levels of tension there's high

41:09

levels of memory but you're relying on the last three seconds

41:14

with a title card and a logo on it to do all the heavy lifting of trying to get

41:19

your brand associated to what you've seen in the previous minute where it's

41:22

nearly like the story's closed and then you've stuck a brand at the end of it

41:26

you know and you could have stuck any brand there do you know you really could

41:30

have to try and leverage that that story it's the credits to a movie at that

41:34

point people tune out so if your credits aren't in your movie no one will know

41:39

who the director was sorry and I think this is kind of the challenge with

41:42

creative directors they don't want the brand to potentially ruin the story or

41:46

the bit of art they're creating do you know what I mean it's got a bit of that

41:49

feel that they want to do this interesting piece they've got Jason

41:53

they've got the big-budget let's do it they've got the special effects they've

41:55

got the animation it's all there it's all the toys they've always wanted yeah

42:01

you know whereas the brand itself how do we fit it in to tell the story or create

42:06

the bit of art so that's kind of art lead rather than brand first

42:10

I did when I was um before I got into neuroscience I was back in film school

42:14

and I'm we used to do this all the time where we pitch an idea and our teacher

42:19

would always say that's a cool idea now what's your movie and that's what

42:23

this feels like you would say some oh what a strong dude was actually really

42:27

skinny at home that's a cool idea now what's your movie and what he was

42:31

saying was how what is what is your bigger purpose and if it's not matching

42:34

that purpose cool ideas meaningless so here they had a cool idea but the

42:39

purpose has to be to tie it to the brand and they never got to that next level so

42:43

my film teacher would have said cool idea what's your movie yep perfect all

42:48

right next up we've got Amazon before Alec's a let's take a quick look

42:53

baby coming Alexa turn down the thermostat okay turning down the

42:59

thermostat ready what do you think people did before Alexa Alisa turn the

43:07

temperature down two degrees a leg side tell me a joke jokes told you think on

43:23

our lives look away ha ha next you get your news here Alex what's today's news

43:28

doesn't matter it's all fake laid out song I live I'll neck soften Alexi tell

43:46

us not gonna interested okay the earth is flat and a witch stole his

43:51

pants Alexa mess send this message to Prince

43:56

Konstantin

44:04

Alysha rum only me to delete those tape yes mr. president

44:11

idly yeah I don't know what people did before Alexa Alexa play my favorite song

44:23

alright Amazon before Alexa so this one miss actually had one of the high

44:28

production values yeah so this costs him 26 mil u.s. to shoot and produce you

44:34

know it kind of is like its own mini feature film and all these different

44:37

sets there was not much expense spared to ensure that you know it came across

44:41

as a real high end production yeah but can't get you thoughts from a memory

44:45

perspective performance perspective what are you saying ah see I got a separate I

44:50

got to separate the science from my personal taste now in this ad because

44:55

personally Alexa and all those things hate them they're totally useless which

45:00

I think they know which is why they have to make this ad this ad is all about

45:04

trying to convince you that oh all the things we can do are really important

45:08

like play a song because pressing a button on the damn CD player was so hard

45:13

hey Alexa tell me the news yeah because opening the newspaper was so hard they

45:21

have a product that really has no purpose and so what they're trying to do

45:24

is convince you that it's a meaningful purposeful product so personal side I

45:28

just hate this shit science side it's not a bad ad the brand name is in it

45:37

throughout it the brand name is the feature character in it the only three

45:41

line through every little sub story is Alexa and you don't leave that

45:46

commercial not knowing what it was for you don't leave that commercial not

45:49

understanding what Alexa does you leave that commercial saying Alexa in your

45:54

head I've just said it about 18 times they win this game so in terms of a

45:58

commercial for sticking power and with the celebrity endorsements to with herbs

46:02

so the celebrity what do you what do we say celebrity hang out with the

46:05

celebrity anchor at the front and and people love Ellen in the u.s. like right

46:10

that's like getting Oprah these days so you've got one she says the brand name

46:14

over over and over again she gets to do her

46:16

thing personally I hate it the product but the ad is an effective ad I just

46:22

wish it was for something a little more important than a little box that nobody

46:25

needs yeah it's interesting cuz you got the celebrity anchor that really is

46:29

endorsing the product itself do you know what a manger Ellen both in two

46:33

different environments you know so she's got at home yeah you know before and

46:37

then the car you know the clever thing I think yes

46:39

they've used the Lexile throughout all the characters and all the different

46:42

mini scenes or the mini movies but also looking at the tie they've got through

46:48

it so this song you know the guy sitting in the car the horse-and-cart

46:51

I mean your favorite song do you know what I mean and that comes up so there's

46:55

a lot of little ties and if you're looking at the schematic of memory you

46:58

know it just reinforces it several times so it's very clear we got celebrity

47:02

you've kind of got that little song you've got a lexer all the way through

47:05

that tie it through so really nice execution interesting just having a look

47:09

at some numbers again this had 39,000 social mentions specifically for Ellen

47:14

and Portia so this did quite well from in terms of consumer sentiment you know

47:21

the other thing I really liked about this is yeah it was designed to sell the

47:24

product do you know yeah design not the celebrities it was for the product like

47:29

it didn't hero the celebrities like you see Jason you know it heroes the product

47:35

and what it can do for you you know so I think from a performance and you know

47:40

ads there to sell it's not there to sell there's no point of having the ad and

47:45

you think - you made a very good point - on Mara so we think in narrative right

47:49

you can't not piece things together in a cause-and-effect temporal chain what

47:56

this does is by having the little segments go through time we get the

48:01

narrative we're starting way back and we're stepping up generation by

48:04

generation getting a little closer to today until we're back to today and

48:08

who's the hero what's the climax what's the thing that solves all the problems

48:11

is Alexa and I you can't not a good thing about a narrative is what happens

48:16

is when you're in a narrative you start making predictions and when you make

48:20

predictions as to where we're gonna go next you're already forming deeper

48:23

memories for it you've built the train tracks they did a really good job with

48:28

that it wasn't just a kooky bit it was a bunch

48:31

of kooky bits tied together in a temporal sequence that allowed me to

48:34

tell a story yeah and a simple execution as well like he you can say the simple

48:38

idea all the way through so from one tech giant to the other let's shoot to

48:42

Google Google ok the opposite side

48:57

hey Google showed me photos of me and Loretta Loretta

49:10

hated my mustache remember Loretta love going to Alaska and

49:22

scallops show me photos from our anniversary remember she always snorted

49:34

when she land play our favorite movie

50:02

remember I'm the luckiest man in the world all right

50:18

Loretta from Google very interesting so for me like looking at this ad compared

50:24

to everything else that was going live everything else was going live was big

50:27

celebrities big budgets for me this nearly like went in the other direction

50:32

it's how do we tell a really you know beautiful a motive

50:36

you know heartwarming story do you know but the production cost so that is

50:41

really limited like you could have done that on the cheap do you know but it was

50:45

executed very very well um even for me it had some nice points is like

50:50

simulation right at the start of the ad it was just pulling you in into a search

50:54

in Google which have all done a million times and then leverage that into the

50:58

story which is really quite heartwarming yeah did you have any views are on on

51:04

this particular I think this is similar to the last one in maybe because of my

51:10

dislike for the product I find it very hard but this is the same thing as as

51:15

Alexa hey Alexa show me a picture cuz it's so goddamn hard to go pick up that

51:21

photo book that I know you have as a 70 year old man okay anyway so the just

51:27

meaningless products but here's what they've done incredibly well they told a

51:32

story they told a narrative beginning middle end they went from from young to

51:37

marriage through up to now they hinted at the fact that this guy's getting

51:41

Alzheimer's I didn't tell you that but I think we all put the pieces together

51:44

they pulled at your heartstrings I don't I don't know that there's a dry eye even

51:48

here's a funny thing so if you go to the US and you watch the Super Bowl in Vegas

51:53

you go to casinos a lot of people go out to bars

51:55

most people assume an ad like that will just drop like a rock because we're all

52:00

having fun we're all drink and everyone's rowdy and so the funny ads

52:03

where I'll having a good time believe it or not that comes on watch

52:06

when about 20 percent of the people in the room start crying those actually hit

52:10

really well during Super Bowls because for whatever reason we're all

52:13

when we're that mode were very open I wish I could

52:17

explain it to you but I was said can I just interject there cuz I won't have

52:20

some thoughts like this is kind of for me like if you're just exposed to really

52:25

loud music really loud music really loud music which is like celebrities big

52:29

productions crazy everything's coming at you a lot of prediction break

52:32

everything's moving quite fast and then all of a sudden the room goes quiet

52:37

guess what people are gonna pay attention to you the one quiet voice in

52:42

a sea of screamers is the one that everyone grabs attention because it's

52:45

unexpected it's unrecognizable and all of a sudden I have to see what just

52:49

happened why is this going on and people will connect with it at any time you

52:55

know as well as anyone else does emotions are very heavily connected to

52:59

memory the more emotional I feel towards something the more personal I make it

53:03

the more likely I am to recall it the more like that I am to have a deep

53:06

memory for it and use it so they use that perfectly there's there's nothing

53:10

about this ad that wasn't completely depressing and completely sad the two

53:15

things that just earthed me about it are one you you run a very fine line when

53:21

you go to the emotion of suffering and Alzheimer's and death which is a very

53:26

personal emotion and then you tie that to a product if you do that insensitive

53:32

ly you run the risk of pissing people off I don't think they did it I think

53:36

they did it fine I think they did it comfortably calmly enough they weren't

53:39

blatant about it so I don't think they'll make people mad that made me mad

53:43

just I just don't like the product itself yeah but I think that's it so if

53:47

you're looking at this thinking oh let's do something like this it's a be very

53:51

careful but again it's you could have the same idea but it's in the execution

53:55

if you know the Devils in the detail yeah but for me the other thing as well

53:58

like this is kind of a major institution it's a corporation it's a bit of

54:03

Technology yeah but they've made you feel something for a bit of Technology

54:08

like they've made it feel more human so I think in essence rather than being too

54:13

clever funny celebrities trying to endorse it for something that's a bit

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can be very cold yeah how do you feel something for a bit of Technology so I

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think that was kind of the clever thing within the execution as well you could

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see where who'd go haywire if you do something

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like that with a big blast like let google help you remember things before

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you die Google your memory Center you can see

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how if you just same exact thing just did it slightly people would dislike

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your product because it's a do not hijack my emotions in that way do not so

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they did that well the the big thing in let's go science out cuz now I'm gonna

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put on my scientist hat this is what pisses me off what's the very first

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words in that in that ad and by the way I know they did this on purpose I know

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they weren't did this wasn't an accident how does that ad start it's Google so

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you have your search bar what does he type into the search bar great question

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I couldn't tell you hang on no I'll tell you I'll tell I'll tell you good how to

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not forget Wow interestingly you forgot it but here's the big joke so the whole

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ad and the whole sentimentality and it's gonna hit the majority of people very

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well is to say you can use this tool to help you when things go awry ideally

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though I guess the the underlying message was when you get Alzheimer's

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here we can help you with all this stuff great all the research in the world this

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is why they did this shows that when you use Google and other digital tools to

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store memories like photos and stuff you actually forget about them you remember

55:52

where to find them but you forget the information itself a better way to

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remember how to not forget is to not use Google as academics we've been talking

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about this for about five to ten years now they've heard us they know that

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we're telling people students do not put your things on the cloud do not put your

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things on digital because you will forget them

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keep hard copies keep playing with them that's how you form a deep lasting

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memory of it that's why I say go to the picture book there's no way that guy

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forgets he has a picture book cuz he's activated it played with it so often as

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soon as you put information online what you do is you change your memory from

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the bit of information to the location where that information is stored online

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so when they come out and say how not to forget there will be one percent of the

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population who does research like I do who immediately go how not to forget

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do not use Google but 99% of the world will go how not to forget I guess Google

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is good for me Google second Association night I got 99 percent of the market

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share and now people are led to believe that this is a good tool for memory when

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in actuality Google and the internet and digital tech and cell phones are

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horrible for memory I mean it's just absolutely filth so that's another

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personal resonation resonance with I can say your passion for technology just

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yawning yeah I want I want you to remember your life I don't want you to

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remember where to find your life that's my that's my yeah mic drop out of here

57:19

one last one before we get out of here today so what we're gonna have a look at

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is Hulu so hello featured Tom Brady let's have a quick look at what they put

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together they say all good things must come to an end at the best just know

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when to walk away so to my teammates my family

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and most of all my fans you deserve to hear this from me

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Hulu doesn't just have life sports according to the script they just gave

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me Hulu also has your favorite cable

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channels plus the greatest shows movies and originals of all time so it's time

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to say goodbye the TV as you know it with me I'm not going anywhere all right

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over to the American who look here's why okay love this ad love this ad but it's

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not the best at it it's not gonna work the way who who

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wants it to but that's kind of what who who's been doing so if you've been

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paying attention to Hulu over the last couple of probably a two years now all

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of their ads are very rich athletes saying almost nothing about Hulu really

58:45

selling themselves and then at the end who who comes in with a money song

58:48

that's been kind of their thing which oddly enough if you live in the US where

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those who ads are everywhere we're getting used to it we're getting

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it so what did he Hulu do here so in terms of memory so if you're an

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Australian and you don't really know who Tom Brady is and you don't really know

59:02

this pattern of what who who's been doing you watch this commercial and you

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think who gives a rat's ass like who's this guy why does this matter in the US

59:11

all throughout this last year Tom Brady who's been the greatest quarterback of

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all time ez has looked like shit and so all we've been doing on talk radio and

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sports radio and TV is talking about he's probably gonna retire at the end of

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this year or it's coming close so what does this ad do it starts with the

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retirement now who would care about Tom Brady retiring any American watching the

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Super Bowl you're guaranteed the audience knows who this person is gives

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a shit about this person knows the sport this plays into the American sports

59:43

Super Bowl market so perfectly that when he comes out and says I got to tell you

59:48

guys something I promise you 80% of people are thinking

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this is it this is the retirement he's gonna say I'm out and he's just waiting

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to make money to do it good on him but here it is prediction break we're all

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expecting him to say I'm gonna retire and I said he goes Hulu does other stuff

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now what you're gonna do is the reason why it's not the best effect most

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effective ad is a lot of people are at that moment you can get pissing a big oh

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screw you bro I'm out and they're not gonna pay attention to the fact that

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it's Hulu which actually kind of plays into the Hulu brand the way they've been

60:19

doing it I don't know why they've been doing it that way so it might not be the

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best memory formation but in terms of knowing your audience and getting them

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something that's gonna get them to actually stop and pay attention to

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what's happening it was a it was a great prediction break it was an attention

60:32

grabber see I think this is now fascinating because you've got Native

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American that is sane Hulu you know what I mean and you familiar with the brand

60:41

somewhat yeah you know you've got an Australian very familiar with Tom Brady

60:46

you know I mean yeah except not as familiar with Hulu like an I familiar

60:51

with the brand haven't seen a lot of their executions yeah yeah so for me

60:55

when I watch this this was a really curious thing because I just go Tom

60:59

Brady I'm just like well ok Tom Brady's on screen during Super Bowl like amazing

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what do you got might smart leveraging assets that's in the right arena you

61:10

know yeah it doesn't get much better than that and then he takes you through

61:14

the little journey and then he go whack prediction break do you know I'm not

61:19

leaving yeah you know so my takeaway my whole thing that I got from this was a

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Tom Brady out yep and he's not going anywhere

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you know retiring he ain't retiring he's not going anywhere

61:32

and for me at the end of it I'm just like Oh what was that out again like all

61:36

I got was Tom Brady i'ma goin anywhere like that's what I walked away with and

61:40

it wasn't a little execution but that's a context of the environment whereas you

61:44

just go okay if you've seen this execution now like a dozen times with

61:49

different superstar sporting talent yeah you can start drawing thread through all

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of it and you just go hulu hulu and to the point where you start saying

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I great talent automatically if it's sports and it's a prediction break it's

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going to be a Hulu ad totally and I think that's where I can only do it

62:12

because they've got massive budgets yeah so they can buy the inventory they can

62:15

buy the talent and I can pull it all together so they can kind of buy their

62:19

market in a pseudo clever execution yeah if you didn't have the budget to have

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these execution on multiple different areas and you only had one shot at it

62:27

with a Tom Brady or anything like that for me it will fall on its face every

62:31

time but no spot on if this wasn't supported by I can see just like you if

62:37

you don't know the supporting two year journey to this ad it's trash

62:42

totally that's what didn't make sense to me you know where is now you've given a

62:46

context I'm like ah I can really see how it works now and you're right it's a

62:49

money thing because of what they done is Hulu they have bus stop ads they've

62:52

train ads they have and all the ads are Hulu with a really big celebrity athlete

62:58

and all the ads up until this one the reason why he flipped it is all the ads

63:02

have been Hulu does live sports so they get a big athlete because everyone knew

63:06

who lose kind of a Netflix they do TV they started getting live sports so what

63:10

does their advertising and get a big star Floyd Mayweather throwing money

63:13

around saying who you just told me they do live sports boom so what does this ad

63:17

do it's the first one where he goes who who does more than life sports Hulu also

63:21

does TV so it's it's been a journey and I could see in the u.s. I think most

63:25

people would have gotten it but yeah if you're a new company coming into the

63:29

game you've got and you have a chance to get Tom Brady

63:32

you don't just segue in that a little bit as well because we work with a lot

63:36

of global brands and they might have started in the US and they've got three

63:41

four five years of history of building the brand through a certain execution

63:45

and then they'll enter Australia do you know and they'll grab their last assets

63:50

from the US that are working and they'll grab the assets that we're working in

63:55

the US so their most recent assets but because Australia the market has no

64:00

context of the previous conversations that have been held and the investment

64:04

that's gone into building to that particular point do you know it's not as

64:08

effective so it's it's really interesting when you're looking at a

64:11

mark like how do you actually build it up so

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he can help be consistent and get it to that point not just take shortcuts so I

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think you know I just understand in the context it's really important and you're

64:22

right and you you earned the right to take shortcuts with time so which means

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I that's a good point if you go to a brand new market a brand new country

64:30

you start at from scratch you go back to marketing 101 which is what is my

64:34

product how do I get the memory formation for it how do I get the

64:36

attention on it and how do I get people thinking about it after years like

64:41

Bunnings now here you go throw a Bunnings ad up in the US no one will get

64:46

what the hell is going on they won't understand why they should care they get

64:49

the product I mean they're simple enough they'll be like cool I can go get a

64:51

trach wonderful but they've earned the right now Bunnings to do whatever the

64:55

hell they want because the the memory is so deep this is what coke does and this

64:59

Hulu's kind of new to the game but coke has been along around so long they can

65:04

do anything because they have 50 years of context to leverage it off of so it

65:08

really doesn't matter if they sink or swim or their flyer fail everyone around

65:11

the world those there who who no one knows who they are here so what or knows

65:16

their branding strategy here so what happens yeah that's interesting yeah

65:22

just about can we wrap it I'm really curious for you I would love to know

65:26

number one who took it out for you who gets the votes and then maybe some

65:30

honorable mentions okay I'm gonna go of ours I gotta go Jeep the Bill Murray one

65:34

is the best one and as much as I hate to say it good the elects one was a good ad

65:41

yeah yeah I'm gonna give I'm gonna give them you give my two stars first start

65:45

of the game Jeep second start of the game Alexa had last star of the game how

65:51

do you say worse star of the game oh did silver spoon or no wooden spoon

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of the day which was a Muhammad that one Jason Momoa okay

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mom-mom Momoa mo ah Mambo Anna he's both a kid's film and a superhero mo one that

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one downside I think that was a myth yeah I'm right there with you I think J

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unquestionably from may best execution best idea pulled it all together and had

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simulation it had celebrity it had all the ingredients that make a great

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at an effective add more so that it will sell product you know remember the

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Rubicon there yeah I'm for me a second a close second would actually be Cheetos

66:32

you know just in how that integrates into behavior and we're world and and

66:36

for me it'd be curious to see if that does take off in terms of having a

66:40

generation of kids that can't touch this you know with Cheetos fingers so for me

66:44

that that's a close second but doctor Jared it's been a pleasure wait what was

66:48

your golden spoon wooden spoon there's several on here that don't even feature

66:52

but if we're just looking at this my wooden spoon would have to go to Hall

66:57

though Oh Tom Brady but the only reason I say that is from my context fair

67:03

enough but that's a good point oh and of itself so dr. Jared it's been

67:07

a pleasure thank you sir thank you mate until the next episode of science of

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advertising we'll see you soon the CERN ciao