Darrell Lea | Budget Direct vs AAMI | Rhonda and Khatut
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Darrell Lea | Budget Direct vs AAMI | Rhonda and Khatut
On today's show, we'll take a look at Darrell Lea's new campaign that pokes fun at the famous Cadbury Gorilla creative. Compare The Pair this week pits AAMI Does against Budget Direct's UFO campaign. Also from AAMI this week is the Classic Creative featuring Rhonda and Khatut.
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welcome to episode 7 of the science of advertising show the show where we
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review the latest ads and the science behind
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why they influence and persuade human behavior on today's panel we've got dr
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jared cooney horvath the pre-eminent expert in the field of educational
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neuroscience with a focus on learning memory and attention and your host
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jonathan rolley
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welcome to the show dr jay thank you for having me on
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episode seven i'm excited for this one we had some good ads this time good
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choices we do a very big lineup in this lineup we have
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the likes of australian chocolate brand daryl lee
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who is really taking it to the 800 pound gorilla
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of the chocolate category in cadbury we've also got compare the pair
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looking at the heavyweight insurance brands of budget direct
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and amy going toe-to-toe then we discuss the classic creative from amy with the
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lovable ronda and get to it like a sunrise but let's get started
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that's like my favorite line my wife and i say it all the time do you really
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there you go we do whenever we're just pedaling
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around that beautiful break food let's jump straight into it the latest
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from daryl lee here we go
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is
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all right daryl lee there we have it dr j i might cut to you for this one just
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to get your thoughts this is a wonderful example of
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how prior knowledge is required to understand
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new learning so let's say for sake of conversation
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you didn't know that this was a chocolate company and i'm only saying
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forsaken conversation because i has sure as hell didn't know
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until i had to look this stuff up so this is a great example you come
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into an ad you immediately understand what it's doing but didn't we
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look at the cadbury um gorilla a couple weeks ago yeah we
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did yeah so we have a classic ad from a classic chocolate company that
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these guys are going to take the piss out of
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and play with problem is i didn't know they were a chocolate company until
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after the fact so i guess on one hand this is really good
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in that it forced me to do some thinking it forced me as a human being to go go
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to say hey i recognize something i don't quite have all the pieces
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let me go pieces together myself and a good rule of thumb
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anytime a human being has to work the memory of the learning the understanding
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gets deeper the fact that i actually had to go
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look up their website and figure out what it was they sold congratulations
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that means i'm probably never gonna forget
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but it's a good thing to remember that there's gonna be a lot of people out
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there who won't know that they're a chocolate company we'll
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see this ad and we'll immediately just think cadbury they're taking the piss
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forget you that was a great ad you're screwing with my cadbury ad i'm out of
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here so i i don't know that how many people
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are gonna be willing to go online and look up that
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that it's a chocolate company beyond that
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so prior knowledge out let's assume that everyone in the world knew it was a
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chocolate company great ad i thought they did a wonderful
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job with this they took a piss but in a way that made you feel
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better in a way that aligned with a lot of the the growing morality concerning
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the environmentalism concerning who we want to be and in
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which case i think cool once i knew everything that
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was going on i see why they did it i see why they chose it it looked good
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i can't really complain what are you thinking
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a very clever ad on many fronts um and like this one this one actually
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blew up it's just australia but the the creative and
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advertising bothers we're really divided on this you
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had the one side going this is amazing ad love
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this ad everything about it and the others just going no
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this is a direct ripoff of cadbury get inventive you're just enforcing capri's
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message so there was there was really two sides
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to it but it really got conversation going and you know as creative boffins
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that's sometimes their objective but um
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yeah very very interesting when you start digging into it but yeah i agree
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you would need to have laid that grain groundwork done like you have got to
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have have exposure to cadbury to understand the piss take that this was
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yeah you've also got to understand why palm oil is so bad as well you require
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that prior learning and you know there will be many that do
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there'll be many that may not be as whereas why palm oil
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is so bad you know so for me nearly takes us back to
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when we're talking about the moldy burger
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laying the groundwork so if you set it up
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like you were discussing with maori burger where you've got to go palm oil
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is in everything from chocolate to makeup shampoo to ice cream
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it's you can't often see it in the ingredients list because it's
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hidden as vegetable oil on many labels you know demand is increased by 400
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percent since 1995. you position this as like the antichrist
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or the worst thing that's going on then you've got more leverage so i felt
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that potentially you could have really plowed the soil to have a very
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fertile runway for the mass market but on the flip side
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if you're very aware of palm oil you know the problems with palm oil that
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talks directly to you so you've owned a segment of the market
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and that segment may be consuming cadbury
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and they'll be second guessing going oh maybe i don't want to be supporting a
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brand that goes against my beliefs so for me is a mass message
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some question marks around it you know it's still very powerful
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great ad great execution but the fact that people are talking about it the
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fact that it got enough people saying hey was it good was
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it not what did we just say the more the viewer does work
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the deeper the message is gonna get so even the very act of just discussing it
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that's not a bad move right there totally in terms of execution it was
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it really felt like you're nearly watching a remake of the cadbury
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creative you know there was sort of this intrigue
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and i thought the execution of the orangutang was was sensational
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like they really delivered in terms of production
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like home run and if you think about it so i think
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they tried to cover a base and i think you're spot on i i hadn't actually put
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two and two together that so there's an environmental issue
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with this product we're not gonna use that
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product cool i was just too busy thinking about the cadbury angles that i
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hadn't even really put two and two together
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yeah right but what i think they were able to do is to build a bridge let's
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say they're going for the healthy market you've already picked
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your audience there's not not everyone in the world is health conscious not
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everyone's going to go get the sugar-free chocolate why because it
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tastes nasty most of the time so there's going
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to be a good 60 of the people who don't care in which case i think they're
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pretty good by saying you know what i don't care about you we're going to go
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for these this group here with that said i don't
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know jack about palm oil but it was clear that what they were
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going for was a more holistic more environmental
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healthier version of that ad so you've got a big
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heavy gorilla in a human environment versus a really
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light healthy looking orangutan in the jungle
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where it's green and it looks like he's in his natural environment and he's just
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having a good old time so i think even without the deep knowledge
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i was able to piece the idea that they're saying we're somehow
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environmentally conscious and they got that through just
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by the setting just by the scenery problem is i don't know why i did like
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you just said if i don't know palm oil and i don't
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i don't know why so this is where i go like you've anyone that is aware of it
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and i'm not sure how big this segment is but
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it's probably five to fifteen percent that are very very hyper aware
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of how bad palm oil is for the environment and the reason it's so bad
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is that you know malaysia indonesia are two of the largest countries that
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export palm oil palm oil is a great vegetable oil because you can produce it
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on mass but the challenge is both of those countries are literally
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setting forests on fire to clear the way killing orangutans tigers you name it
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endangered species all throughout in the quest
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of clearing land for more palm oil so right you gotta you gotta set that that
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up what what a missed opportunity to paint the bad guy very rarely is it
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kosher to have a very clear bad guy in an ad
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without coming across like a douche like you
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you can't just say by the way this product sucks but in this case you're
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not talking about cadbury itself you're talking about a secondary thing
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so there's no libel here there's no you're not
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making fun of it's a very easy antagonist that you can now bring your
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protagonist in with and you're right i miss i'm i'm sad that
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they miss that and that's what i mean i think they got a little bit swept away
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with the piss take of cadbury yeah rather than really hammering home
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the message and there's two ways you could have done that
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one would have been to plow the soil and sow your seed
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of how bad palm oil is that is your campaign that's your pr
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give that some air then you go in with your hero
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that saves a day and we're 100 palm oil free do you know or in that
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creative you've got the orangutan which is associated with palm oil because
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orangutan population in these particular countries have dropped by over half
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so they are literally the poster child for palm oil or the destruction of palm
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oil phos so then on the back end of the ad you've
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got your glossy 30 second you could then have a longer version
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that then digs into why palm oil you know we need to stop
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supporting palm oil as an industry and why we've chosen it
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they've tried to do it through social but i just think that they've missed
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a bigger opportunity but anyone that gets it they've got them and they
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understand it but to your point you didn't really know
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and it's it i'll say at the end of the day it's a
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good looking ad it got me thinking it got me looking things up
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it's cool but yes give me more if you're gonna be socially
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conscious recognize that it's a niche market you have to teach
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the world it's it's it's scary to think that
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there has to be an element of education in anything that is fringe in anything
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that's trying to change the mold but that's how you change the mold
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because you can't change it by just continuing to play in the rules and say
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oh that sucks you have to teach people why it sucks give them the foundation
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and then they'll follow you out so any anyone i and i would say even beyond
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this anyone trying to play the environmental
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card is gonna have to face that you have to set up the bad guy unless
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it's something like global warming or coal that everyone knows
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if there's a real bad guy and most of people won't know it you got to make it
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clear to me here's one for you i'll go sales now
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like if i'm looking at sales if there's a pain point or
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something that elicits emotion that makes someone feel uncomfortable
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and i'm looking to sell a particular it's a better solution
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i like to push that do you know and really get in there and push the pain
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point just before the solution comes so pain
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pleasure problem solution like and i get if
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everyone is aware that there is a problem but i still like
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to just push it or poke it or at least just fire it up
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just so that then you've got the pain the pleasure
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on the flip side if you take a look neurologically so for those of you i
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think people are aware of the pain pleasure dichotomy but
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what's happening in the brain is that pain point is a is a what your
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brain registers as an error it's a disconnect between reality
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and your version of reality in your head and that's the
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pain is your brain essentially saying uh oh uh oh oh change change change
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you'll literally never learn better faster easier than right after you feel
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that pain because biologically the system that's that feeling the system is
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saying we have to update our story our understanding immediately
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so that's why he then pulled in that pleasure congratulations everything is
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primed to update take that new message in and ideally
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play with it so i think you're absolutely so that
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very recognizable pain pleasure in this case would have been
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it now we know the neurological mechanism would have been a very easy
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play and and i'm thinking to myself like i'm
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not in the creative field but i don't imagine it would have been that
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difficult like you could go one way which are those really heavy ads like on
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tv that with the sad music and the burning
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forest and you see like a dead puppy with its eyes all big looking at
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you like help me and it's like i that kind of works but in this instance
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you want to keep a little bit of levity so you just have to have to find a way
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to keep that levity while bringing in this message like you can
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show the original gorilla or have like a series of auditions of different animals
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trying to play the drums and we say i'm sorry we can't hire you
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because palm oil is killing you find a way to
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weave that message into the narrative that you're already building
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so that you can keep the levity keep the fun and
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get the learning in embedded within it i mean that was a see i'm not creative
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that's horrible you don't want to talk about dead animals but
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you see what i'm getting at like there's a way to do it and i think there's
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several ways look like to sum up i think they've done a
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brewing job it's a great ad great execution
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and i hope it really works for them it's an amazing cause and
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an amazing australian brand so credit to them i hope it has the wind at their
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back and it does brilliant things for them but i think
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there was a slight missed opportunity to really lay the groundwork for this just
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to go um that little bit harder but anyway
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let's let's change gears now and we'll talk
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insurance so we've got a couple of latest of the
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pieces work from both aimee and budget direct there's two from
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budget direct so there's actually three here
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and compare the pair
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compare the pair our theme song by the way did you get
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you lied that down in life there are those that say they'll
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do and those that actually do when it comes to insurance keith it's
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worth a closer look some don't offer unlimited not at fault
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car hire but amy does just give us the other
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drivers details need help with the claim some don't have
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one dedicated home claims manager but amy does free roadside assist for a
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year sorry some don't but amy does with the
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new amy comprehensive car insurance policy
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some cover your house and pool but not if the motor burns out
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don't worry amy does some don't even have an app to lodge a
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claim without having to chat but i think you know who does so
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what's it gonna be keith
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go with the doers amy does sweet dreams keith
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lucky you're with amy
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sarge i think i got something are you gary yeah that's me
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you're paying way too much for your car insurance what's the story
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i don't know really my parents are with them your parents
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do they still do your washing for you as well
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just the whites time to take control gary probe a little deeper
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if you switch to better direct you can save hundreds
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i can't believe i said probe money magazine's 2020 best of the best winner
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budget direct insurance solved from the files of budget direct
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is that your dog it's the neighbor's dog
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will my insurance cover this not looking good i'm afraid budget direct would have
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provided you with temporary accommodation for up to a year while
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they repaired it
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good dog get temporary accommodation for up to a year with budget direct
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you've got insurance solved there we have it there's the latest from
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budget direct and amy look i'll kick this off let's
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look at budget direct to start with um let's go ufo ufo
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i don't know how many times i've seen this i would go probably at least
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a dozen i always associated this ad with x-files
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i'm not sure why there was always a disconnect for me between
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why is there a ufo a man floating above a car
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and what has this got to do with car insurance
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and it never really dawned on me until i watched it several times
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for this particular episode and it's like oh the car roof has actually been
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peeled back by the ufo so there is actual car damage there
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is that what i did not see that i that is what i've been missing the whole time
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see that was the the bit that i literally had to watch and try and go
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what is the connect between car insurance and a ufo i
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do not get it and then it just dawned on me that's what it is but it's such a
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loose bow that it has taken me probably 20 times in total to try and get it and
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that's me actively trying to get it as a whole it
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really misses the the heart of the communication then
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you go to the dog the lightsaber dog
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which which i loved for several different reasons
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like i loved it it was so different you haven't seen anything like it if you're
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a star wars fan you're immediately pulled in
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if you love dogs it's a cute dog it's already there
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you know you've kind of got these affable characters that you kind of
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and it takes you on this story where you see the physical damage
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of the house both inside and out a very
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bizarre type of situation that you can't see that it happened but
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it pushes the extremities of what would happen but you still
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covered and more to that what was missed in the first one was just a promise
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you know you'll save with us but there's no proof to back up a claim
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whereas this if you're with us yes you're not only covered
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but we'll give your accommodation for up to 12 months
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so that's the key message that they delivered in a
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fun enjoyable way so that was a two from budget direct
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i'll jump to you jared and then we can maybe just loop back in on amy if you
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want following that so the the ufo one is older than the
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light the new the lightsaber one's the new one good
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they've learned so for a while i think we've talked
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about this before how there's they're going for that x-files
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theme i get it but i've never seen the link to insurance and
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i even i've constantly said anytime i see one of their commercials there's a
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dragon flying like what the hell are you guys selling like i don't i don't
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get it until you told me that the car roof was pulled back
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i even watched it a couple times for this i still didn't see that
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so if that's your point you're totally missing it
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but i get what they're doing okay so let's get because didn't you tell me
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they used to be captain risky used to be their
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spokesman correct mascot i was going to say mascot that's not true
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but they're going to come in with the new mulder and scully cool i get it
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problem if you're going to have a trusted advisor
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make that person likeable if you have an advisor that i don't like
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i'm gonna throw that straight onto your company and say you guys must be dicks
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and that guy in that first ufo ad he's just
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a dick so here i'm getting sucked into ufo this guy comes up and he looks at me
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and like the daggiest aussie accent says you're an
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idiot you you're saving money we're out of here done
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you didn't help me you didn't protect me so now i think budget direct you're just
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a bunch of [ __ ] and to be fair that guy is still a dick in the second
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ad with the the dog i think they picked they miscast
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that guy horribly because he is not likable he's not
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charming he's not affable he's just mean but what they did catch on to was okay
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we need an actual message here we need to
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show damage to demonstrate that we are in
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the insurance game so they kind of kept their two
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trusted advisors who i wouldn't even say are trusted at this point i'd say dr
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drop it and they went back to the captain risky kind of
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fun let's show things get damaged and then demonstrate that okay we're gonna
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make this work for you so they've whatever
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whoever's been talking to them over the last couple years they finally figured
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out they've been screwing it up a bit and i
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think this brings them back in line i get their message the story's good
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get rid of that guy and you're you're hitting the home run yeah
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and then you got amy the latest from amy i'll cut to you
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do you want to have a jump it not not ronda and couture
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but this was the
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hmm this one does my head in so i i i
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i get it intellectually i understand what they're doing and i think
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intellectually i like what they're doing moving into amy
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does as kind of a new tagline it's always
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going to be hard to move into something new
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i get it and i kind of like it they're doing a straight comparison
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over here pain here's your pleasure not gonna get it gonna get it
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problem is this commercial and i've been thinking this since the first time i saw
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it so this is been out for a couple weeks and i saw it
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on tv and i thought the same thing you get so confused trying to figure out
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the situation that you stop listening to the narration
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right early in the piece to the point where
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it takes about 30 seconds till you even understand what the hell is going on
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and what they did is they made a mistake in that so
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human beings we cannot read words while listening to somebody speak at the same
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time but we can look at images while listening to somebody speak that's why
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most commercials work that's true up to a point once an image
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becomes confusing uncertain unclear or requires some sort
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of decoding now i literally cannot listen to words
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because all the mental the cognitive energy required to discern to detect
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what's happening is going into that that decoding and
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then until i solve it the words come i can't nothing's getting in word wise
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so this starts with that scene on the bus
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and that scene on the bus is so strange and so
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oddly shot that i always find myself just trying to
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decode what is going on with this bus that i miss the point that they're
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trying to make is that the reason he's on this bus is because he doesn't have a
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car because he got in a crash i'm i'm still not getting it i'm still
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trying to figure out why is the guy next to him strong
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why is there a woman giving him eggs like i get what you're trying
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to do buses are weirdos but you've done it and filmed it in such
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a way and then tried to send your message on top of it that you're losing
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most of your people because we're just trying to figure out
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the image at this point so by the end of the ad
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i get it i it catches up with itself like you
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don't have roadside assistance you suck well here you go
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but god just the the way they did the choices they made having them sit in a
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cooler instead of a pool confusing what do you i'm spending so
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much time just trying to sort out your joke
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that i'm missing your point and that's not a good thing
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in an ad what are you what are you thinking yeah
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it's a it's a really interesting one because they
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they've got several things in there that are very good yeah
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they've got five different stories within again this is the difference with
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market is very much going short form which is 15 second creatives
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30 second creatives if you're looking at the creatives that
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allow a bit more space to tell a story 45 a minute you will get that bandwidth
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so they've told five stories here you know everything
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from car hire claim deducted roadside assist house and
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pool they're basically gone here's our whole
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suite of products we're this is your problem this is your solution amy does
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this is your problem this is solution amy does
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so for me the key takeaway wasn't so much that
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each of these scenarios it was more about amy does
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amy does amy does amy does they say this six times throughout so in
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60 seconds they've just gone through this so you just go i'm not going to
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remember the scenario it just means that it doesn't matter if it's car house
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whatever it is amy does amy's got it and to the point where we had before
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with the proof points in each of these they had a proof point
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in terms of how they deliver it's not just a promise
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an empty claim that you can't back up they're backed up all of them
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i agree the footage on some of them is too complex and it's just a bit too
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clever like i think if they actually stripped
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it down rather than trying to be either a little bit
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humorous or too clever they just really stripped it back down a little bit
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like 10 20 percent to try and get around these little nuances in there
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we're like why is there any skin i don't want yeah
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how is he now in the car when he was in the bus i get it by the end but at the
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moment it's just so it's too you could have done that a much
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easier way yeah but they got across amy does and you can
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kind of see this nearly feels like their new strategy or their new direction
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it's how do we get away from amy does but they're probably still a little bit
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attached to the change where they had you know the
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previous amy ads were very much here's a big crash and all the rest of
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it and you've got a beautiful amy lady that comes along and saves the day
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you know whereas then they went to to [ __ ] creek or ship creek sorry
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to you know that was playing very funny and they got a lot of leverage in it
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but i think now they're trying to find this middle round and the middle ground
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they probably need to lose a lit trying to be a bit too cute with it and
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just hit that message because i think it's a good one i think
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you say it enough it gets sticky amy does they're just trying to build
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some more long-term brand assets and i think you and i i think again
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on paper i love the idea it's the execution and i think you nailed it
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before you even get into weapons of influence before you even get into
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acoustic coding or repetition or any of this
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stuff you've got two principles you need to hit and one
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of them is simplicity you've got to be simple
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go back and watch that ad and look at how many extraneous words they add
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in that narration to the point where it's like don't worry about the details
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i'll ask you that later so like when they're talking about the pool
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they don't just say oh your pool shot will cover you they say
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your pool is shot but it's really because two motors went bad
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well they'll they'll cover you with most motors but not the brown ones but
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we'll cover you with the brown ones shut the heck up get to the point they did it
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there's another one i think it's the third one
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in they said we'll cover you under circumstance abc
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i'm like don't this is not the point to give me the specifics the details now
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your point at this moment is to keep it simple give me your message they don't
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do this we do so that's the difference between if you
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had one of these stories in a 30 or 45 you could have gone there
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do you know just with the lightsaber you've got all the little details of him
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running through the house the chairs you know the power pole like you can do
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that because it's one story you've got five stories here so you do
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need that really simple message because otherwise you've been drawn into one of
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the stories going i don't get that one and you lose the narrative of the global
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view which is amy does amy does amy does amy does
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which is the hero of this story amy does you know what just occurred to me an
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easier way to do this because now they could have actually had two points
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they could have had their repetition through an acoustic coding
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and they could have had either a trusted advisor or a hero in that instead of
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having one guy go through both scenarios have
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two guys go through different scenarios the dude stuck in the bus as miserable
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looks out the window and the hero comes driving by with amy in the car giving
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him a thumbs up the miserable guy is sitting in the
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cooler he looks over his fence and his friend is sitting in the
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pool it's just a far easier way than trying
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to find like even the pool one right he's sitting there with his daughter
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camera has to pan up and then come back down it's just
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too smart and it leaves you by the time you're done thinking about the last
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episode you've already missed the next one and it just you're right
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you lose the narrative yeah look overall i think i think it's a
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really good spot but again the the nuances and just the detail and the
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execution but really like where they're heading with amy does i think there's a
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lot of merit to it how long they'll carry it on i'm not
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sure but i'm keen to see what the evolution especially going from a ship
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creek scenario to now this amy does so who do you think
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did it better compare the pair who so take ufo off the counter let's just
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take new dog versus new amy which one's doing
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it better me yeah i'm budget direct
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me too i think they i think they did it so much better
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i think this latest execution of budget direct was was very very
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very good they hit the key message which is
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doesn't matter what happens to your home we've got you and
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you can go into a replacement home for 12 months
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we're not going to make fun of you for getting in a wreck we're going to help
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you after you've gotten into around the hero
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we will help you look amy does i still think it's not a
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bag created by any stretch of the imagination it's more about who's done
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it better but yeah on this particular compare the
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pear i direct gets the chocolates no pun
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intended speaking of amy speaking of basically
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what classic creative what
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a classic let's see it classic let's cut to it katoort and rhonda
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it's time for a blast from the past
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i've always dreamt of doing something more exotic
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and with 15 off my insurance amy's safe driver awards helped me get there i make
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special drink for you today ronda thank you you look so hot today like a
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sunrise you're annoying thank you
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remember ice on the road amy's safe driver rewards offer up to 15
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discount for drivers who don't claim where will the savings take you
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and ronda you look so hot today like a sunrise that's what i remember
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you've got a completely different take on it
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that was remember they kept it going they had like a whole soap opera with
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them where she went back home and he was
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gonna come visit her at the dance they turned this into a thing i was i
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was hooked this was better than desperate housewives
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yeah i kind of lost me i only like this one out of all of them this is the only
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one that really had me because i had her in the office and they all started
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clapping with ronda and all the rest of it i thought they
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took it a little bit too far but you had to because this one
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was such a hit but just to the point and we kind of missed it or i missed it
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on the last one about telling a story so this is storytelling
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telling a story that is relatable to your product
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it's realistic it's so this whole story is fifteen percent off insurance
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which is why rhonda's over there with catoot in the first place because she
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saved money you go to the home insurance this is
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what's happened in my home now you're saving it the ufo i don't get
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that story that's unbelievable it makes no sense to me
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i don't connect the dot between your brand
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and the industry you sit in and how you're going to help me
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so this one just nailed it in terms of 15 off your insurance
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saves me money if i'm just like ronda and i can go overseas and enjoy a
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wonderful holiday and fall in love and it shows you how important casting
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is i promise you this ad doesn't get
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anywhere near as much traction if that guy's
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accent wasn't that smooth and if he wasn't just such a nice
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dude but you start rooting for him rhonda's a nerd she's cute she's funny
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but him he's the one that you gravitate
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towards and you're like that's a nice dude and i don't know what
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it was i i don't know why i mean there's so many ads with people with accents you
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got the the two russian meerkat people you got
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random dudes dancing another this was it was like it wasn't even trying and
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they just found the perfect dude that everyone wanted to root for and was
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like cool i'm in i'm yours now the the scary thing or the
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trip is did they take it too far and that's
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where i i think what started to happen was
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so this kept this became a soap opera so i don't know is the is the woman with
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orange hair she kind of a famous actress in australia like did people know her
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she wasn't yeah because i was thinking my entire
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thought was maybe she was a soap actress and they were making a soap because
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remember it went ad after ad after ad and it was
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their love story coming together the problem with it was by the end it
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wasn't about amy anymore no one cared i could i couldn't have told you
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to all i knew was beautiful breakfast i didn't know it was amy but i'm rooting
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for these two so you have a danger that when you find
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somebody or some pear that people really want to root for
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of people digging into that story and then leaving your brand
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off of that story so you have to make sure your brand is front and center as
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you're doing these things and great example because you go great
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casting they become a character that you love
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and you feel close to and you know memorable in many different respects and
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you want to reinforce that so you want to leverage your memorable character
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but when you lose your narrative and it gets away from your brand
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the character becomes the hero not your brand
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you know and you see that with compare the market as well you know the heroes
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become the characters and they kind of forget in some situations
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what they actually are and what they need to stand for because it's all about
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they're so in love with their characters that they've created
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connect it with helping people that is what a brand is it's what a business
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does businesses help people in some respect
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you know what in hindsight would have been a very easy fix
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don't call it ronda caller amy now at least you have your name of your company
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granted it's going to be spelled differently
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but no one's going to be looking at the spelling at least you'll have your name
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coming up five six times and ten years later when somebody says beautiful break
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foot ronda we say beautiful break foot amy and at
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least you get me saying your name now that works for amy you couldn't
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have done that with budget direct oh beautiful breakfast budget direct
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like but but in this instance it would have
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worked and it could have made the brand a little more front and
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center but that's that's me nitpicking the extension of this in terms of just
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this one pure ad it's there's a reason it's
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classic i'm telling you man if you find somebody that people like
35:55
congratulations you've just hit a home run because it's real hard to do
35:59
but just on that the setup of this ad and i'm sure if you notice because
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many people don't the setup of the ad is all about rhonda talking about how she
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saved money yeah you know she got 15 and then it
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goes into the story the little love connection they've got right there the
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sparks we're just flying and away they go
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and then it reinforces at the end again so you've got their core value
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proposition is at the heart of this story yeah
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that is so when is it where do entail i didn't see that is that have a
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look at it again and you'll it's like camera to ronda and
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rhonda's talking about how she say 15 off car insurance then could took comes
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around with so it seeds it there doesn't hit home
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but it's it frames a story straight up i say 15
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off my car insurance then it tells the story and it loops back at the end
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okay okay oh see i'm so focused on katuit
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so what if you'd and i'm just thinking that this is
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me being creative which we we've determined i'm not
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what if you set that very beginning in that very end
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in a different location to make it a very clear bookend where she's
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instead of talking on the phone at the beach she's in the office
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with her tan and all of her friends are like what happened she goes well
37:17
let me tell you and then they go to the ad and then they come back and then you
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can if you have your soap opera it keeps
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coming back to her telling the story to her friends and
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then goes into the next part of the soap opera
37:30
yeah but you've got the relatable things in this story where she takes off her
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glasses and you see like the tent like everyone
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can relate to that you relate to the character you've gone
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into before oxytocin you build a bond with those
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particular which then you can leverage for your brand um
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progressive directed this brilliantly with kitty in the us they leveraged it
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somewhat over here as well with the character again they never lost
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the core proposition which is saving money but then they have
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the proof point of why because it's all online you know
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so you've got to promise you've got to prove it whereas in the
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others you know you look at the ufo all they did was
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just proof point no promise didn't back it up it's an
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empty empty saying so what do they say you
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could save money i can't believe you're not saving more
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see you later it's like what was the point okay
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interesting yeah i like it i'm gonna keep an eye out for the proof promise
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this week promise proof has to be proof we're gonna it is empty it does not
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connect you do not get the response but that's a wrap that's it episode
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seven thanks for tuning in till next time
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jonathan rowley dr jared over and out
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you