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Not even"},{"speaker":"Susanne Mus","startTime":1935.583,"endTime":1939.869,"body":"tomorrow, with miles of the"},{"speaker":"Susanne Mus","startTime":1935.583,"endTime":1939.869,"body":"unknown ahead of you. The road"},{"speaker":"Susanne Mus","startTime":1939.943,"endTime":1944.525,"body":"ahead is empty. It's paved with"},{"speaker":"Susanne Mus","startTime":1939.943,"endTime":1944.525,"body":"miles of the unknown. Whatever"},{"speaker":"Susanne Mus","startTime":1944.599,"endTime":1949.181,"body":"seems to be your destination."},{"speaker":"Susanne Mus","startTime":1944.599,"endTime":1949.181,"body":"Take life the way it comes. Take"},{"speaker":"Susanne Mus","startTime":1949.255,"endTime":1950.66,"body":"life the way it is."},{"speaker":"Arthi Rabikrisson","startTime":1950.66,"endTime":1953.463,"body":"Ah, I love"},{"speaker":"Arthi Rabikrisson","startTime":1950.66,"endTime":1953.463,"body":"that. 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You take care Susanne"},{"speaker":"Arthi Rabikrisson","startTime":1968.63,"endTime":1971.99,"body":"and we'll chat again soon."},{"speaker":"Susanne Mus","startTime":1971.99,"endTime":1974.09,"body":"Okay, we'll do bye bye."},{"speaker":"Arthi Rabikrisson","startTime":1982.55,"endTime":1985.294,"body":"Thank you so"},{"speaker":"Arthi Rabikrisson","startTime":1982.55,"endTime":1985.294,"body":"much for joining me on this"},{"speaker":"Arthi Rabikrisson","startTime":1985.363,"endTime":1989.754,"body":"episode today. If you like what"},{"speaker":"Arthi Rabikrisson","startTime":1985.363,"endTime":1989.754,"body":"you heard, rate, the episode and"},{"speaker":"Arthi Rabikrisson","startTime":1989.823,"endTime":1994.214,"body":"podcast. And feel free to write"},{"speaker":"Arthi Rabikrisson","startTime":1989.823,"endTime":1994.214,"body":"a review. Plus, of course, share"},{"speaker":"Arthi Rabikrisson","startTime":1994.283,"endTime":1998.606,"body":"with others too. 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