Another Unnecessary List - Rolling Stone’s Top 10 Guitar Solos Debated

Rolling Stone says these are the greatest guitar solos of all time. We say: hit play, then let’s argue like music nerds who actually care about what a solo is supposed to do. Anthony and Brian break down the magazine’s Top 10 guitar solos and the fine print behind the ranking, from “emotion and cultural impact” to the frustrating choice to mix live versions with studio recordings. Along the way we ask the questions that make these lists worth fighting over: should a great guitar solo be memorable to casual listeners, or is it enough that musicians respect it? Does tone matter more than speed? And when does a “solo” stop being a solo and become the whole song?

We go pick by pick through classics like “Stairway to Heaven,” “Eruption,” “Comfortably Numb,” “Hotel California,” and the foundational force of Chuck Berry, while also calling out the choices that feel more like Rolling Stone being provocative than definitive. The Prince debate lands center stage too, because “Purple Rain” is the clearest example of restraint, storytelling, and emotion beating pure technical difficulty. Hendrix enters the conversation with the added complication of live performance brilliance versus what belongs on a “best ever” studio-era canon.

Then we flip the script and talk about what we think got overlooked, including Slash, “Free Bird,” Randy Rhoads, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Dire Straits, and grunge-era greatness like Pearl Jam. We also touch on modern guitar-driven artists who are pulling rock back into the mainstream for younger listeners. Listen, check out our Spotify playlist, and then come tell us what solo you’d put at #1. If you like the show, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review.

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Transcript

Theme, Playlist, And Tonight’s List

SPEAKER_04 0:28

And welcome to another unnecessary list. That was Babes in Canyon, a new song called Echo, a two-piece band, A Husband and Wife coming from the Pacific Northwest, a band I would highly recommend giving a listen to. And if they are in a city by you, we'd highly recommend checking them out. That is Babes and Canyon. And they are a lot of fun. Songs called Echo. And as I say in the song, fuck that. Alright, moving on to what tonight is. Tonight is the greatest guitar solos of all time. And if you got a message today, we uh put up a Spotify playlist from another nursery list of all the songs we're talking about tonight. The top 10 songs that Rolling Stones has declared the greatest guitar solos of all time. And then some of the other ones that I feel I felt as though were overlooked and not put on there. So what we're gonna do tonight before we dig deep into this, the it's gonna be real easy. We're gonna talk about the top 10 off this uh list that Rolling Stones put out recently of 100 greatest guitar solos of all time. Um it this list has been done and beaten to a dead horse by Rolling Stone, which Brian will get into that later. And um we're gonna talk about the top 10. We're gonna unique that, we're gonna talk about some of the artists they included on this that hadn't been on previous lists, and then kind of talk about what we think is right and wrong um with this idea and kind of go from there. But before we dig deep into this, the question I like to ask before we start every show Brian, how are you, buddy?

Life Updates And Summer Heat

SPEAKER_03 1:56

I'm good. I'm good. Um it's been a mild June in the Midwest, um, which ends this week with uh the hot uh hot uh heat of Satan um coming upon us. Uh as we're yeah, we're gonna hit the 90s and it's gonna be gross, and my air conditioner is working over time, which I'm sure it is for many people. But uh other than that, it's it's you know, life continues on.

SPEAKER_04 2:24

You you do the best you can as well.

SPEAKER_03 2:26

You, yeah. You, Anthony, just back from Disney, the most magical place on earth.

SPEAKER_04 2:32

I literally thought I was gonna get off the plane from Orlando, Florida, where I believe I sweated off everything I ate there. And then I literally got off the plane in Kansas City and it was just as hot, except there's a breeze here, so instead of it just being hot, we get a hot breeze, which I hot breeze.

SPEAKER_03 2:48

I love the hot breeze. Yeah. I was playing in a I was playing in a pickleball tournament yesterday, and it got to the the feels like temperature was a hundred. Um, and yeah, there was no cool breeze. Um, but uh it was fun and I'm in a lot of pain, but uh yeah, a little too hot for me. I was I was I don't know if you I don't know if you have a I know you run and all that stuff. I don't know. Do you have a Theragun?

SPEAKER_04 3:13

Um I have no idea what that is.

SPEAKER_03 3:15

Okay, it's a Theragun, it's like a it's like a therapy gun, so it's and it has the ball on the end of it. Like the massage gun. Like yeah, the massage gun. Well, I was using it on my entire body this morning. So uh and it really wasn't it's like you get to the point you'd be like, oh that feels great, and then I was like, oh, it's I had a bruise there. That's why it was it felt so good. But yeah, um, so yeah, yeah, it was uh it was uh I being uh actually and and not to not to be like uh blah blah blah. I turned 51 tomorrow, so being a 50 plus year old is um yeah, when you get to do fun stuff like pickleball and all that, yeah, your body kind of has a day or two of it where it revolts against you.

SPEAKER_04 3:58

So well, happy early birthday.

SPEAKER_03 4:01

Thank you very much. My daughter actually, uh when I was on my way downstairs, she's like, I'm gonna tell you happy birthday now so I don't forget tomorrow. And I was like, Oh, that's cool. I appreciate that. Oh, well, get it yeah, get it in early. So

Rolling Stone’s Criteria And Bias

SPEAKER_03 4:16

but yeah, so this this list, um so uh if you'll recall, if you are a diehard listener of this podcast, and for the you know, handful of you out there that are, we talked um about there was a guitar world list of the greatest guitar solos several moons ago. And we actually talked about that. So I thought it would be interesting to look at the top 10 that we talked about back then and the top 10 that Rolling Stone is giving us now, and uh point out some of the weird, like some of the weird things that like you know, the the differences we have uh in these lists. So of the top 10 from the Rolling Stone list, compared to the top 10 of the guitar world list, there are only four songs and four solos um that made from the guitar world list that made the Rolling Stone list. Interesting. Um yes, which is interesting. Um, and I don't know about you and and we can talk, I'll I'll talk about which ones when we get to them um in the discussion. But uh listening to some so and also listening to there were only a couple of songs that I hadn't heard um that I actually had to listen to today because I'm a neophyte. Um so I actually had to listen to three songs that I had not heard the solos from from the Rolling Stone list. Um and I thought that was an interesting experience and made me want to go back and look at the criteria that Rolling Stone had given us for this particular list of guitar, great guitar solos, which um, as we've talked about with Rolling Stone in the past, is a frustrating uh situation because they're telling us, you're like, oh yeah, we've picked these songs and the greatest solos of all time and full blasts, genres, and all this shit. And you're like, and the criterion isn't sales or airplay, just the six-string brilliance on display. But some of the songs that you know, they didn't they they pepper the list kind of with live versions and not studio versions. And I kind of think there should be a delineation in there. Um, you know, are we talking, are we talking recorded solos? Are we talking, you know, live solos? I think that one is not, I don't think they're the same. And I think I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on that too, because I think there's a difference here. I mean, uh the pulling off a great guitar solo that's in a song, you know, it does it serve the song. You know, how long does it take to record it? Is it cut up from different solos or is it done a live performance? You know, it's all at once and it's all there. So I think there's a lot of um a lot of things to discuss as far as you know that kind of stuff, and then just you know, obviously the content that that they've given us, um, which I have some thoughts about, and I'm sure that you do too, Anthony.

SPEAKER_04 7:04

So well, yeah, and it's interesting because the list itself is 70 years worth of music, right? It's a spanning of 70 years worth of artists in this list. Um and it's interesting because the ranking they say isn't based strictly on technical ability at all. It weighs heavily on emotion, cultural impact, originality, influence, and how important a solo is to the song, which, in my opinion, that is almost uh silly that they said, oh, it's how important is the soloist to the song, because in that sense, there's one song in the top 10 that literally the person doing the solo in the song has nothing to do with the band. So then in putting them and giving credit to the band and not the person who did the solo is almost silly in its own sense, too, which we'll talk about.

SPEAKER_03 7:48

Agreed, agreed. And yeah, lots of other types of things. And I've just when you were just mentioning that, it made me think like, you know, all you're talking about all of the years of music that we're looking at here. My thought was I wonder I wonder what the time frame is of of these solos that are in the top 10. And I'm gonna do horrible math right here, um, like not not like right like at this minute, but I will do it um at some point in the show. I'll be like, oh Anthony, guess what? I figured it out. But um I might I'm interested to know like what span, and I'm gonna try and also say this at the same time, how many years we're talking in this top 10 of the 70 plus years of of rock music and guitar solos and all this. I bet we're only talking that I bet the songs that they have called for this top 10 come from a really definitive period of time, might even be 15 to 20 years. Because this tends to be what we see with Rolling Stone, is and even now that they I mean, obviously we've got their writers tend to skew a bit younger, probably more like our age, so I would say probably in the 40 to 50, um, you know, 40s to 50s uh age grade age range, generally male, generally white. I mean, we've talked about that before. Um but I bet they're gonna pull them like 60s, 70s, 80s for this top 10. And I can and we can tell you right now, you know, there's not a song on here from the 90s, there's not one guitar solo from the grunge era or anything like that. And and nothing post-90s. So we're looking like I guarantee you that that the most current song on this top 10 is gonna be in the 80s, which I think also um is something that we discuss pretty frequently. Um, of you know, that they tend to stick pretty close to a certain range of years that they consider to be like the best music ever. Um and not to belabor the point, but we feel like it kind of leaves out leaves out a lot of different types of music, but it especially leaves out what we grew up listening to, which was grunge and and new metal and all that kind of stuff. And I think that there's it's something about to me, it kind of like says that our music wasn't as good as theirs, and I I don't think that that's the case. I I think that there's a lot of really I think that there were a lot of guitar heroes in Grunge. I don't think we talk about them a lot, like we talk about Hendricks, or you talk about Eddie Van Halen, but I think you know there's guys like Jerry Cantrell and Kim Thale and and Mike McCready and all of these guys that were that are solid, solidly guitar players and really kind of get shit on when these lists come out because they're either buried in the hundreds or whatever, or they're not even on them. And that always um it always kind of annoys because it's like, are you telling me that the great music came from like a 10-year span or like a 20-year span? No, that's that can't be possible.

SPEAKER_04 11:04

Well, I agree with that, and I also feel as though like the the list itself, I feel as though is almost similar in its own sense to like Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, where if you are a critical member of being a part of the Rolling Stone magazine, if you've been on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine, if you're doing stuff for Rolling Stone magazine, listen, listen, I'm a huge St. Vincent fan. I think Annie Clark is one of, if not the top 10 guitarists performing right now. She is high critically underrated. Her performance, her style of play is something that is top tier in my opinion, especially. She's on the list. But then again, like a lot of the lists don't include her, but she does do a lot with Rolling Stone magazine. Another one is John Mayer. John Mayer, while is a is an excellent, he is, and I don't know why I was starting this, he is an excellent guitar player, does a lot of Rolling Stone magazine. His write-up on this was outstanding, and there's a lot to it. And I think a lot like with the with you know, when it comes to Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, if you do a lot, you present a lot, you donate your time a lot, it tends to help you get in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame much sooner. And I think that Rolling Stone does the same thing. Now, to kind of move forward a little bit, Brian, you know, when when we first start thinking about, you know, guitar solos in general, uh, you know, what what is determining the greatness of this? Is it the feel? Is it the speed of it? Is it the technical ability of the solo? Is it innovation? Is it the influence of that guitar solo moving on to other things? Is it memorability? Like is it so memorable that you just can't get out of your head? Is it difficulty, or is it the songwriting that went through with it? I mean, there's just so much to it. And then I think you brought a great point before. Is that uh solos from uh live uh being live as important as being recorded ones? Because pre-re pre-recorded ones, like you said before, could be the ones that are put up in pieces, and we know that some of them are based off of the history of these songs. Is uh, you know, because in my sense, there's one song on this list that is in the top 10. But in my opinion, that is not nearly as pertinent or as as standout-ish when it comes to that song when there's a live version of it that clearly is better than the recorded version.

SPEAKER_03 13:08

And then I totally agree. And when I was I was listening, so one of those, one of the three songs that I hadn't heard on the list was um I'd listened to I listened to it and I was like, well, this is this is okay, but I don't even think that this is like the best version. I don't even think this is the best solo by this person. I think this person has better solos than this particular song that they chose. But then I read the then I read the thing in the write-up in Rolling Stone, and it said, oh, well, this is a live version. So the version of that song that they chose was a live version. And I went and listened to that live version, and it was a hundred times better than the record. I mean, than what was on the record. But part of me, part of me wonders and and part of me thinks, like, is that is that what we're doing here? And and even on the list that wasn't in the top ten is is the My Guitar Gently Weeps, the Prince version of My Guitar Gently Weeps at some point on here, um, which I think is one one of the greatest solos of all time. It's the one that he did at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

SPEAKER_04 14:12

Yeah, where he's where he clicked on the show.

SPEAKER_03 14:14

Yeah, which I think is great. Which I think is great. Um, and I love it. And I literally, I will if it's on if it's if I'm watching TikTok and it comes up, I watch the whole thing. If it's on YouTube, I click it and I watch the whole thing. And I do it every single time because I think it's one of the greatest performances ever to me, and one of the greatest solos ever, which is ironic because it's gonna lead us right here into number 10.

#10 Clapton On A Beatles Classic

SPEAKER_03 14:36

Um, so Prince, Prince's version of the while my guitar gently. Well I got Prince's version of While My Guitar Gently Weeps is 15 on the rolling list. And then four spot later, we get at number 10, Wild My Guitar Gently Weeps by the Beatles, and the solo was played by Eric Clapton. That exactly right. I gotta tell you, I play both of them at the same play both of them back to back. You can tell me that that that not attendee people would won't choose the Prince version over the Eric Clactic version or over the Eric Clapton version. You can't it's it's impossible. And how it even how they're even on this list four spots apart, and the Clapton version is is is ahead of Prince doesn't make any sense to me. So we'll start right from the beginning of our talk about the top ten and how messed up it is.

SPEAKER_04 15:32

Because let's let's go backwards. We'll go start from 10 then. I think that makes the most sense. So yeah, so the Beatles, while my jar guitar gently weeps, the solo is considered, but when they highlight it, they highlight it as the Beatles, but it's Eric Clapton who was who did that solo. And at that time, it was the Beatles trying to convince Eric Clapton to join the Beatles because everything was happening with Cream, it was kind of falling apart. Eric Clapton was finding his place. This is right before he became a solo artist, and it was well and the Beatles were and the Beatles were having trouble too.

SPEAKER_03 16:03

So I mean, they probably thought, you know, like I'm sure Harrison was like, oh, we can you know inject some new life into it and whatnot. Um but yeah, so so Clapton was having issues, the Beatles were having issues, and um they they asked him to come and play in the play, you know, play the solo for my mom and guitar Gently Weeps, which to me is I I love this song.

SPEAKER_04 16:24

I love everything about it.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

I think it's one of the best Beatles songs, um, and it's written by George Harrison. But but yeah, listen to if you listen to one and then you listen to the Prince version, you can't tell me that the Prince version is is not the better version. I mean Well Prince versus But then again, we here we get to this con this conversation about live versus studio. And you know, Prince has the ability in the live version to do whatever he wants and um you know and to show off and to do all kinds of cool stuff. Um and Clapton probably had some, you know, some some guide guardrails that he had to follow, you know, because he's recording a song for the Beatles. So I mean you go in there and you you do what you do, but you also do what the Beatles tell you. I mean, Prince doesn't have that, doesn't have that issue. So yet again it comes to that conversation about you know live versions versus studio versions and and and should they even be on the same list to begin with?

SPEAKER_04 17:25

I don't think so, but you know, first of all, this is one of the only few Beatles songs that it featured an outside lead guitarist. It's a very rare thing. Absolutely. Um, but this is an Eric Clapton guitar solo 100%. And now this brings us to where we're gonna talk about each song, right or wrong, right? Like, and and we're playing devil's advocate here. These are just to stir up conversations, right?

SPEAKER_03 18:02

So the I truly believe you're right. I truly believe that is the intent of every Rolling Stone list. It is just to it's to piss off people, it's to start conversations like you know this podcast and other things, but I think they do things that are provocative to start people bitching and complaining. Oh, 100%. And and it's not really the intent to say, what are the you know, what are the whatever hundred best guitar solos. It's it's whatever can we throw out there that's gonna piss people.

SPEAKER_04 18:33

Yeah. So I mean, first of all, the the historic collaboration of the Beatles and Eric Clapton makes this one of those things that it's it's kind of overlooked. A lot of people don't discuss it unless you're a big, really big into music. A lot of people listen to this be like, oh, it's a great Beatles solo, right? And to me, I get that, but it's a it's a huge historic collaboration between two major artists that are gonna live forever, right? It's a beautiful melodic solo, right? So it's something unique, and it's a solo that happens multiple times in the song. It's not just a one-time solo, it happens multiple times, okay? And then the Beatles' cultural importance when it comes to music and going through it. So, like that part of this is where I think Rolling Stones got it right. I think that you can then have the topic in the wrong section. Is it really even Eric Clapton's best solo? Right? I mean, is this really Eric Clapton's best solo? Did he have anything better? And did does the Beatles' popularity elevate it? Like if this was just an Eric Clapton song and labeled as an Eric Clapton song, is is it just it is what it is, it's a great song, but then it doesn't go any further than that. Because the fact it's the Beatles my guitar gently weeps, is that why this solo is a top 10 song?

SPEAKER_03 19:42

Well, I think that I think that you're right, because I think that it is, I think it's probably considered to be one of the I I mean, I'm talking in my mind, it's I think it's considered easily to be one of the Beatles' best songs. Um, if not the best song George Harrison's ever written. Um, so I think it has that to it. Um, I think it is, as far as the Clapton, I mean, you've got the cachet that it's you know, it's this this pairing of these two, you know, the Beatles and Clapton. Um, it only happened once and uh it's it's it's captured forever. Um I think that one thing that I also stood stood out to me um when I was listening to the songs again is something that I really find important about solos for me is tone. Okay um and just the guitar tone is I think it's gotta be for me. If I was gonna be picking, you know, my top ten, I I think the distinct distinctive tone would be a really big thing for me. Like I you should be able to hear it and know who it is. Yeah. Um I don't think this song I I don't think this song from a tone perspective has that. I don't think yeah, I don't think it if you didn't know it was Clapton, you wouldn't know it was Clapton. I think anybody in the Beatles could have played it, um, except Ringo. But uh but yeah, I think that I don't think it has that distinctive tonal quality that I look for um when I hear guitar solos. I think when you look at some of the other solos on this list, I mean the tone thing is gonna be very, very apparent. Um especially when we look at the ones that were on the guitar world list and the ones that you know the ones that that that mesh. Um so I told you I was gonna throw the numbers out at you. Um so the songs in the top ten range from the years 1958 to 1984.

SPEAKER_04 21:40

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 21:41

I'm not gonna do the math to tell you how many years that is. But um okay, so of the of the top ten, seven are from the nineteen seventies. Seven of the top ten are from the seventies. There's one from the sixties, one from the fifties, and one from the eighties. And that's it. So to give you an idea. Yeah, to give you to give you an idea of what we're talking about. You know, Rolling Stone is the definitive decade of rock is still the 1970s. Even if they have 40 and 50 year old dudes writing the article, it's still the 70s, so that's how it's gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 22:22

Well, let's uh let's see.

SPEAKER_03 22:24

Um, anything else to say about why my my guitar generally weeps?

SPEAKER_02 22:29

No, you think it's do you think Class is best solo?

SPEAKER_03 22:32

No, I don't think so. Yeah. I I I don't know. I would go to something cream, I'd go to like Sunshine of Your Love or something like that.

SPEAKER_04 22:41

I agree with you on something like that. You cream the and and it's surprising to me that they there wasn't a song in the top 10 for them because cream did really, at some, if you think about it, a lot of what they did, they really kind of pushed the envelope a little bit of guitar solos at that time to different avenues. I think Eric Clapton was uh an innovator when it came to the guitar and was able to push boundaries that a lot of other people were just starting to get into. Eric Clapton was very unique in his performance style and in the way he played guitar. And it's you know, it's why he is who he is when he is a you know a guitar player. Is he the greatest human being of all time? No, but he's a great guitar player.

SPEAKER_03 23:17

We're not talking we're not talking about the greatest human beings of all time.

SPEAKER_01 23:20

Oh, oh, so we're taking that off.

SPEAKER_03 23:22

I guarantee you, I I guarantee you most of the people on this list are probably shitty human beings if they're still alive. But uh yeah, but uh but they play guitar really well.

SPEAKER_04 23:30

I will say that I do believe I I have nothing against this being in the top ten. Uh you know, if this was in the top 20, I would have nothing against us. It it's not I don't think it's a top five, but I I have nothing against us being in the top ten. But I guess there is arguments to say about where credit goes and where credit's due. That's my opinion.

SPEAKER_03 23:46

Yeah, I agree.

#9 Maggot Brain And Pure Emotion

SPEAKER_04 23:47

All right, moving on to number nine, which is Funkadelic and it's Maggot Brain. And this is one that's you know, not really from 100% familiar. It's just a very unique song. But here's a couple of things, a couple facts for you. Please Eddie Hazel recorded it after George Clinton told him to imagine his mother had died. Like, go ahead, record a guitar solo as if your mother had just died. It was mostly improvised, and it was one continuous recording. What you got was one thing from beginning and end. That was a solo. It was not hot taked, it was one time done, and that was it. Any any any thoughts on anything so far?

SPEAKER_03 24:32

So I listened to this. I listened, this is one of the three songs that I had not heard, or three solos that I had not heard, and I did listen to it today, all 10 minutes of it. Um, and I'm fine with it being um along. I think um this is this is Rolling Stone being uh snotty and elitist. And I'm also you know, I'm a fan of snotty elitism all the day, but uh yeah, this is just them being snotty and elitist and being like, whoa, we're going to pick Maggot Brain by Funkadelic, which is on, you know, is on plenty of lists um as far as guitar solos are. Um and it's very similar. It's it's it's one of a kind, it's something that I'd never heard before. I probably won't hear it again because I'm not gonna listen to it. But um, but uh was it cool and interesting and and all of those things? Yes, it was, absolutely. Um, is it a song that belongs uh in the top 10 of guitar solos? It does not. Um I agree with you. Because I think that it uh I appreciated it from the experimental point of view and those things. Um but I think there also has to be something said for as we talked about earlier about um being concise and fitting and serving the song. And this really doesn't serve the song because it is the song.

SPEAKER_04 25:55

It is um yeah, so it's not really a guitar solo, it is the whole guitar song.

SPEAKER_03 26:00

Yeah, yeah. Um and we can talk about this, and it is one of the two uh instrumental songs that are in the top ten. Yep. Um, I'm sure you can guess what the other one is, and we'll talk, and we'll kind of I think there'll be a little comparison later when we talk about that, because I think that even though it's an instrumental, the ver the song we're gonna talk about later, um, I feel that it's as a piece of music, it's a little bit more concise and um not as experimental. Um so and I think that the experimentalness and the lack of editing and it kind of makes this one maggot brain kind of just out there and cool to mention, but is it a top 10 song? I don't think so. What do you think?

SPEAKER_04 26:46

I I couldn't agree more with you on that one. Um the the one thing that I think this kind of goes with it. So when I look at the right or wrong from this, right? Because I think this is a good this is how I broke up some of the songs. This is where I think Rolling Stones got it right. Pure emotion, if you're talking about pure emotion with a guitar solo, this is you cannot, you cannot 100% say that this isn't one of the most emotionally driven guitar playing um, you know, uh ever, right? Like it is just 100% emotion driven, like it is 100% that it is 100% completely completely unique in its own sense. Like it is just Absolutely, yeah. It's so that's where I think got it right. So if this was a list where you're saying guitar souls that are unique in emotion, this might be the number one song because this is you feel it. Like when he's playing there's just something you can zone out and just feel something like emotion, and that is something hard to do in music. Like the best music is when it makes you feel something. Yeah, this makes you feel something, and it is unique. This is where I think Rolling Stone got it wrong, though. It's very niche. And it doesn't have any mainstream recognition. Now, I'm not saying that every guitar solo has to have mainstream recognition, but for the casual listeners or the musical listeners like me and Brian, who we listen to music constantly. I'm no musician by any means. I have guitars, I goof around with them, but I'm not talented. I there is no day in Anthony's existence that he will ever perform a guitar solo that will ever be anything recognizable of music or coherency. It will all sound like cat scratch. Um but I think this is this is this is a song that based off of what they're trying to tell us, based off of their qualifications of the top 10 list, I feel as though this is one that does not belong in the top ten.

SPEAKER_03 28:43

Yeah, I think it's I think you're right. I think it is um, you know, Eddie Hazel is a freakishly talented guitar player. I mean, you listen to just part of this, and you can see how he's influenced a ton of people, um, like Vernon Reed from um Living Color. And let's not forget, you know, uh Funkadelic being uh a band of color, and um I think that's great to have you know a guitar player of color uh be recognized. That to me is awesome. Um, but yeah, I think that um it is niche and it's in its kind of it's Rolling Stone, it's Rolling Stone, you know, being Rolling Stone. They're like, we this is awesome, and it's so cool, and you've never heard of it before, and we have. And so I I think it's kind of which is also gonna lead us into the next uh song, which I was like, are you freaking kidding me?

#8 Steely Dan And Musical Snobbery

SPEAKER_04 29:37

Like We are going to piss off a lot of 70-year-old white men.

SPEAKER_03 29:41

Dude, there's a lot of younger, like our age white that freaking love Steely Dan. And I, you know, it's alright on it's alright on the Oldies channel, you know. They got a couple jams, but you know, this is a this is also a super niche song, which is this isn't even like, and I'm not saying it's gotta be a hit. This isn't even one of their hits. And I listened to this today and I was just like, really?

SPEAKER_04 30:08

It is it is uh, in my opinion, the most boring song of the top ten.

SPEAKER_03 30:13

Oh, without a doubt. At least, at least Maggot Brain, you know, I felt something has it has it has that emotion, and it and it really you can feel um this is just a bad a bad 70s, like you know, uh Yacht rock song.

unknown 30:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 30:30

And there were way better solos in some yacht rock songs, if you wanted to, if that's what you wanted to do.

SPEAKER_04 30:36

But no, I think there's don't tempt do not tempt Steely Steely. There will be a fucking Rolling Stone top 100 yacht rock.

SPEAKER_03 30:44

I'm gonna say it right now. You the people with the Iron Maiden that came for me, they were absolutely right. Steely Dan fans can come for me, and they are wrong. I don't get it, I don't understand Steely Dan. It's it's yet again one of those bands that sounded like 50 other bands. And nothing they just happened, yeah. There's nothing really unique. Are they talented? Yes, great, but you know, they're not, they were it's it's a this this band comes around in the 90s and and nobody cares. Who's the who's the grunge version of Steely Dan? That's what I want to know.

SPEAKER_04 31:20

Well, here's here's some fun, here's some fun facts for you. It was interesting. Um, first of all, this is not even an original member of the band who did the solo, it was done by Larry Carleton, who was a sessions player.

SPEAKER_03 31:32

Which is a great point. That you know, a great point going back to the the Beals and Clapton. I mean, does this really does this count?

SPEAKER_04 31:41

I I don't know. And then it's but it's crazy though, because there are some of the most famous guitarists of all time that we look up to that have cited this as by pro by prof professional musicians we look up to. That is, this is the most flawless guitar solo of all time. And I just don't get it.

SPEAKER_03 32:01

It can be flawless, that's fine, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's good. I mean, it may be technically proficient and all those things, but yeah, I mean, I I felt something with Maggot Brain. I didn't feel I just wanted to know when it was going to be done with this one.

SPEAKER_04 32:19

Yeah, the the Maggot Brain was 10 minutes long. This song is less than 10 minutes long, and it's easily skippable.

SPEAKER_03 32:24

It just felt like, yeah, it felt like it was 10 minutes long. It's not you're like, are you kidding me? And so yeah, I come for me, Steely Dan people. I don't know why you like Steely Dan. I I think there are way better bands in the 70s than Steely Dan. I don't understand it. I don't I don't get it. I don't get it, and I certainly don't think it should be in the top 10. You want to put this in the 30s somewhere? You can go go to town. But not top ten.

SPEAKER_04 32:49

Yeah, not not when there's songs that I have put on this list that I feel as though should have been in here, which clearly did not make it. There's one song in particular that really pisses me off that's not in. We'll talk about that later. Anyway.

SPEAKER_03 33:00

I think I know which one it is.

SPEAKER_04 33:02

Oh, I don't think you do.

SPEAKER_03 33:05

Oh, really? Okay, then it's not then it's probably not what I thought, but all right. But I do, but I mean, go go continue.

SPEAKER_04 33:11

Okay, so Steely Dan number eight. This song, in my opinion, does nothing for me. I I get the complexity of it, I get the whole things. Here's where I think Rolling Stones got it right, and here's where I think the Rolling Stone magazine got it wrong. It is technical perfection, 100%. And that is a Steely Dan thing, but there's also a lot of bands out there that are technically flawless that I just don't dig, right? That that's that's what that's where they got it right. It is jazz meets rock, it is a very unique style of playing that they brought into rock and roll. I think Steely Dan did bring that to the mainstream where they did create this idea where you can create jazz influences and rock in the style that were played and brought over. So that's where in the solo sense.

SPEAKER_03 33:51

That's a good point, too, because in reading the you know, the right up at the beginning, uh, they said we didn't include any jazz. And if and few entries are instrumentals. Well, two of the top ten are instrumentals, and to say you didn't include jazz is bullshit because this is basically jazz. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_04 34:09

So the the style of play, I mean, and that is where I think listen, I'm not a Steely Dan fan, but I also know when to credit really good things. Steely Dan does have a technical playing style in the way they create things that is something that a murder and people cannot cannot mimic. It is it is very, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:25

You know a Steely Dan song when you hear it. There's no no doubt about it.

SPEAKER_04 34:29

And this is where Rolling Stone magazine got it wrong. Casual listeners, casual music fans, even some of the ones like me and Brian, we don't even know what the hell it is. We don't listen to it, we don't, it's not in our playlist, and it is not in our algorithm to be played next after a song we listened to. And then that the other thing is, I think this is more respected by musicians than casual casual readers of Rolling Stone magazine or casual listeners of music in general, and that's where they got it wrong.

SPEAKER_03 34:54

I think that's I think that's a good point. Yeah, I agree. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 34:57

Thank you. All right, next

#7 Stairway And Why It Lasts

SPEAKER_04 34:59

one. I don't think this should be come as a shock. This is probably on every top 10 uh guitar solo list of all time, and that's led up to a stairway to heaven. And fun facts Jimmy Page improvised parts of the final take. He literally just went out on his own and did his own thing, which I mean, listen, Jimmy Page that is another whole podcast of itself, like Eric Clapton and so many, that was creative, unique, and found ways of doing playing styles from generating looking at a lot of black musicians at the time and how they were creating music and utilizing that in modern music and rock music at that time, and taking creative styles from that and making it his own. Um, and this is probably one more one of the more historically important uh solos than it is technically impressive. And what I mean by that is the technical side of things, there's a lot of people I know that go to guitar center, they pick up a guitar, what do they start doing? They start playing Stairway to Heaven, right? Or they start playing, and that's why there's that sign jokingly, and I think it's in uh was it I think it was in Wayne's World, no stairway, like they go but it is it is something that really stands out, and I think this is a great song. And I think that guitar playing, this is if you're a guitar player, this is might be the song that made you fall in love with the idea of playing guitar, which I know a lot of people have said in many of interviews. It was Stairway to Heaven that introduced them to guitar, guitar solos in general, that made them want to be a guitarist. So that's that's my first take.

SPEAKER_03 36:23

I also think I didn't mention this earlier, but one of the other things that sticks out for me about something that should be on like the guitar so the best guitar solos list is one that you remember.

SPEAKER_01 36:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:34

I mean, you know you hum while my guitar joy weeps solo. You can hum stairway, you know, stairway, you know the other songs that are gonna pop up on this on this list, you know, you don't know Maggot Brain, and you don't know the the solo from Kid Charlemagne. Um partially because you they aren't, I mean, they aren't songs that you hear regularly. Um, and I think that's another reason why they don't necessarily belong on the top 10, because I'm and I'm not saying everything has to be like popular or whatever, but I think it's gotta be something that people remember. Um and you're not, you know, you don't just run around or walk around on the street and you know, man, oh, is that guy humming the uh the is that guy humming maggot brain? No, nobody's out there doing that. And nobody's out there humming the kid solo the kid Charlemagne. Now, you started talking about Stairway, and the first thing I just started was I mean, you can you just hear it in your head. I mean, you it just comes. Um Stairway is also the first song that we've run into where the solo was on the original guitar the original guitar world list that we did uh a while ago. It was number four uh on the guitar world list, not number and not number seven. Um so that's kind of interesting, but I think that we can all agree that this is you know considered one of the it's considered one of the great rock guitar solos of all time. Um it does show up. It'll be in the top ten of every like greatest solos of all time list. Um and and I don't think that there's an argument about that. I think it's um it's it's one of the you know, I look at I look at this top ten and I'm looking at and I think I would say it's probably like the definitive guitar solo song. Like you just know which is why they don't want it to be played in in the guitar center, because everybody just knows it. It's like it's like you know, everybody knows stairway, everybody knows stairway, and um and there's a reason for that. And yes, it's uh page is um is awesome and and really, really talented. And this is kind of like that even he played tons of solos, but this is the one that everybody remembers.

SPEAKER_04 38:43

Yeah, I I I couldn't agree more with you on that one. Let me go into right or wrong. This is where Rolling Stone magazine got it right. Perfect climax, right? The build-up to it, one of the most iconic builds. I mean, just so beautifully done, and then it climaxes so well. They is some someone compared it to the most perfect love making session. Great, great buildup, great climax, right? Um and it is a rock radio staple. I mean, every radio station in America that is a rock station, at some point during the day they're playing Stairway to Heaven because it is just it is a perfect song, everybody knows it. That's where I think you know, Rolling Stone magazine could have gotten it wrong. Some prefer since I've been loving you, as a better guitar solo than Stairway to Heaven when it comes to the guitar solo. And some people say that this is not Paige's most creative solo. And it's not the most creative solo, it is a memorable one where I think that once again the criteria can change when talking about different songs and how the guitar solo is portrayed. But this is a memorable one. Creative, there's definitely more creative guitar solos by Jimmy Page. We all know that. I mean, we could have a whole podcast on Jimmy Page guitar playing. I mean, he's been a part of so many great songs and so many great solos. Um, but this is a song, in my opinion, that this should I I think it should be higher up on the list. This is one of the few that I'm like, this is way too low on the list because I think it's got the memorable factor, the emotional factor, and I think it's got that I think it's still technical in its own sense, and it created other guitarists.

SPEAKER_03 40:21

So it had that like a it's got the it's got the influence, it's got it's it's it's I mean, obviously it's arguably one of Zeppelin's most memorable songs, and and we both know listening to classic rock radio and stuff, and growing up, you know, listening the Zeppelin was on all the time. I mean, it's it's a whole lot of love, it's it's you know, it's cashmere, it's all that kind of stuff. Um, but you know, Stairway is definitely the quintessential Zeppelin song. And um, and obviously I think and I and I think you know, being being one of those longer songs, I mean it's not like a it's a deep cut on the album. So I mean the length of the solo, it it it kind of you know, it's a longer solo, so I think that that um makes it a little bit more distinctive than like whole lot of love or something like that.

SPEAKER_01 41:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:13

Um and I think it really serves the the piece overall, so the whole um, you know, the whole piece of of music, which is you know, I let's say it's it's it's an ambitious song and and it and it really works. They make it work with everything.

SPEAKER_04 41:30

So but just think about this. This is the song that's literally one song ahead of the last song we listened to, this how the hell are we comparing the last song to this one with only one space ahead? This is what drives me nuts.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 41:53

It's just yeah, this this song, this is this is a legendary song that has so much memor memorable factors to it that is so emotionally driven that kids that are not even born right now are gonna listen to this song and say, I want to be guitar player. In in 50 years, people are still gonna are gonna be playing guitar because of this song. It is just mind-blowing to me. And I hate to shit on Steely Dan, during our led Zeppelin dissection. But what the living fuck were they thinking putting that Steely Dan song on this list?

SPEAKER_03 42:20

I it's such a it's just it's just such a snooty, you know, elitist thing. And you know, it's like I'm uh I like Steely Dan. Like I I I always and this is the I when I think of Steely Dan, I think of John Mullaney, uh, because he he does this, he did a bit about going to see Steely Dan, and he's like, I love Steely Dan. I'm like, what person our age loves Steely Dan? I mean, you should be like, you should have, you should, I mean, not to say I should be, you know, you should be an AARP member. I am old enough to be in the AARP, I am not. But I mean, you should be an AARP member, you should be retired, you should have a you know, a seven-figure 401k that you're living off of. I mean, we you and I don't get up and be like, man, I really, you know, identify with Kid Charlemagne. I mean, that's just not, it doesn't have you know even I don't know what your parents listened to when you were growing up. I mean, my parents listened to the Beatles and stuff like that. I don't remember, I don't remember Steely Dan unless it was popping through on like the AM channel. I don't remember a lot of Steely Dan when I was a kid.

First Concert Memories And Music Roots

SPEAKER_04 43:30

My mother was a big KISS fan. There you go. Yeah, my dad was my first concert was Nine Inch Nails. My dad was, I mean, he had me when he was you know seventeen, so I mean there was that that difference right there, right? Um how old were you when you went to see Nine Inch Nails? Seven. Oh my god. Right, hold on. Probably No, I was it was nineteen ninety four, so I was nine. Wow. And yeah, it was well they a quick I'll I'll do a give you a quick story about this.

SPEAKER_03 43:57

I wasn't I was I was I was nineteen. That's right. We were 10 years ago. Exactly. Yeah. Um and I went to see them on that tour too. Like three years. Did you really? Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:07

I I'll never forget it. I was supposed my grandmother was supposed to watch me. My dad had um had gotten a he was it was a it was a summer full of shows. Like, but this was when my dad was like the best. This is before he ended up marrying or dating people that changed his life and we don't talk anymore. Anyway, but like this summer he had like a bunch of concert tickets, and I was supposed to be going when my grandmother didn't work out. So it was either him go to the show and take me, or he didn't go. So I remember going, and I remember the whole time I was in the car. I'm like, just don't say anything, don't fuck this up. Maybe I'll go to more shows. And it was Jim Rose Circus opened it up. So that was my first time. Was it Maryland Manson too? No, Manson was on the book. Oh no, it was okay. It was White Zombie opened up for him.

SPEAKER_03 44:48

Oh, damn, that would have been awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 44:51

I was, and I, you know, I was young, so I didn't really appreciate White Zombie, and especially now the cultural yeah, like how much that has been big. But yeah, Nine Channels, I remember like it was yesterday. Like I remember watching it and like just standing there, and then I remember, oh God, I want to say probably halfway through the show, like I I could I was dancing and like just getting into it, and then my dad put me on his shoulders, and it's like one of those moments you'll never forget. And it was like at that moment, like there's just like these po there's like perfect moments in your life you'll never forget. And there's a moment that like you'll never there's a moment in my life, like there's like that tape you'll like as you're dying, you'll remember memories and stuff. That's probably one of the memories I'll I'll remember my father's like he like picked me up, put me on his shoulders, and we were bouncing around listening to Nine Inch Nails. And I remember afterwards, like he got me a bootleg shirt in the parking lot, which I wish I still had. Um yeah, but like it was just like that moment of like nothing being said to each other, but living through that concert moment together through a raw emotion of that moment. Um yeah, dude. That that summer we brought me to like quite a few shows, and um it was a it was a great summer, and I remember doing all those things, and I saw the concert take the ticket sub my dad gave me uh quite a few years ago, and yeah, it's it's highlighted my one of the highlights, but yeah, so yeah, I know I so yeah, 94.

SPEAKER_03 46:04

I remember I saw a lot of that was a there were a lot of shows that summer. So uh and yeah, nine inch snails was one of them, and it was it was it was pretty epic.

SPEAKER_04 46:12

But uh do you know one artist I never saw live? Who? That would be Johnny or Chuck Berry, who didn't know. Oh, Chuck Berry.

#6 Chuck Berry Builds The Blueprint

SPEAKER_04 46:21

Number six on this list.

SPEAKER_03 46:22

Johnny be good, we never saw. No, but no Chuck Berry either. Yeah, not have not seen Chuck.

SPEAKER_04 46:36

I mean, this is 100% the blueprint for rock guitaring. I mean, being rock guitarists.

SPEAKER_03 46:41

And that should that should that alone should put it on this list. I was really excited to see it. Um because uh this is where they got it right. This is where they got it right because without this, there is no Zeppelin, there is no Steely Dan, although we probably would be okay without that. But I mean, there's no there's no Eddie Van Halen and all, I mean, no, Chuck Berry, Johnny be good. We all remember it from Back to the Future is gonna be our point of reference. But yeah, man, that it's just it's just it's perfect. It's just perfect and great. And it's like it's almost like I know there's a riff in there, but it's it feels like the whole song is just a solo.

SPEAKER_04 47:21

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 47:21

But it's a song and it's you know, it's it's beginning, middle, and end. It's not just a but there's emotion in there, and I think it's just got all of the things that that I want in a in a guitar solo, and it's great to to see Chuck on the list.

SPEAKER_04 47:37

Yeah, I mean he there's the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, ACDC, Pearl Jam are artists that have said that this inspired them to be musicians.

SPEAKER_03 47:47

Oh yeah, and yeah. One of the great musical inspirations, good person, no, not necessarily, but um, but influence out the yin yang. I mean, just everybody loved, and he was just doing something that original no one no one was doing, and that's why everybody ripped him off. Um yeah, and yeah, but it's just awesome. Awesome, awesome, awesome.

SPEAKER_04 48:15

Yeah, and it was the one, it was, and this is historically comes from when I looked up today on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's website. It was the first true or considered true guitar solo intro to a song.

SPEAKER_03 48:29

That's awesome. That is extra. So even so, even it's even more credit. Yeah, even more historical.

SPEAKER_04 48:34

It is it is 100% foot pedal to the metal, foot to the metal pedal, whatever the fuck they say. I don't know. I don't know. All right, so here's where Rolling Stone, in my opinion, got it right, and here where they got it wrong. Right? Without Chuck Berry, none none this list doesn't exist. I don't think it does. It was the foundation of guitar rock. Rock guitar was built off of this. This is the foundation of everything that was built up after this. There is, uh, in my opinion, nothing that comes on after this, and it might have. I mean, we you know, you can't say that nothing happens if this doesn't happen, but this is the foundation of what guitar solos were and being a guitarist was all about. Because in the in the grand scheme of things, prior to this, everyone was just a rhythm guitarist. They were keeping rhythm to a song, the lead singer was pushing everything through, but it was the bass, the guitar, and the drums are all working in unison to make sure the song performed outwards. This is a song that broke it to a different way and made the guitar speak for itself in a way that no one else had done previously. Wrong. And this is where people are gonna pitch at it, but I had to find right and wrong, right? Um, it's primitive compared to later players, right? So, I mean, in a sense, is this the is this a greater guitar solo than Stairway to Heaven or you know, why my guitar gently reaps? No, but this is also what created that, and in that sense, it elevates other things. And there is more historically it's more historically important as a song and a solo than it is relatively impressive technically. So it's not the most technically impressive, but in the same sense, too, at that point in time and music, it kind of was technically impressive because no one else was doing it. He literally created the technical process.

SPEAKER_03 50:16

Yeah, that's the point. He he created it from he uh the other players had a blueprint, but Chuck made the blueprint.

SPEAKER_04 50:25

Correct.

SPEAKER_03 50:25

So Chuck didn't have the blueprint to go on.

SPEAKER_04 50:29

Yeah, and he created it.

SPEAKER_03 50:30

And they you know, they took it and went you know with their own direction and they improved it from a you know, for some people from a technical perspective and proficiency and all that kind of stuff. Um, and obviously with effects and different things, because you know, Chuck wasn't running a stomp box or anything like that. You know, there was no electroharmonics, big muff, you know, it was all just guitar and an amp, and that's all it was guitar and an amp and his playing.

SPEAKER_01 50:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 50:56

That made it sound that great. So and we're even gonna talk about another guitar player who just took his guitar and plugged it into an amp in number five, which is our second instrumental of the evening.

#5 Eruption And The Tapping Revolution

SPEAKER_04 51:15

And and it just makes you want to air guitar every time I hear a song.

SPEAKER_03 51:18

Of course it does. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 51:19

Like like I know what the fuck I'm doing.

SPEAKER_03 51:21

Like I'm just no, I no. But yes, the second song on that was also on um the guitar world list, but was number two on the guitar world list. Um I don't know about you, Anthony, but I think five is a little too high for this. I think this needs to be closer to number one. Um I also think I'm surprised that there's another Eddie Van Halen composition that is not on this list, um, which was on the Guitar World list, and that would be Beat It. Um Yeah, yeah, I beat it. I think the Beat It Solo is widely considered to be one of the great solos of all time, especially I think, because it was on the biggest selling album of all time. I think the story behind the Beat It Solo is also intriguing um and very interesting, but um I don't think any of us can argue that Eruption is considered uh Eddie Van Halen's masterpiece solo. Um you know, I think it's got your tech it's got the technical proficiency that we're talking about, um just being memorable. Um this is like one of the only uh only songs you're gonna hear on like classic rock radio that has no words. Of course, it leads into you know, you really got me. And they usually play both of them together. But uh yeah, this is like the only instrumental you're gonna hear on like classic rock radio, which is gonna be Eruption. And uh and it does, and I think the the other thing that's perfect about it is it it it has all of the Eddie Van Halen things. It's got the tapping, it's got the harmonics, it's got the the hammer ons and the whammy bar, it's got all the things, all the things that make Eddie Van Halen, Eddie Van Halen. He just throws it all at you and it's all there, you know. And then later on, when they get into like 1984 and things like that, he tends to hold a little bit back and he's not throwing the kitchen sink at you. But this is the one where he's throwing the kitchen sink and the dishes and everything else. I mean, it's just all coming at you. And it just shows his amazing talent.

SPEAKER_04 53:30

So, fun facts it was released in 1978. Why I say 1978? Because in Christmas time of 1978, the most requested uh present for males between the ages of 12 to 26 was an electric guitar. There was more electric guitars sold per guitars made and had to being sold or ever was done in between the time this song was released and the month at uh the January of 1979. It popularized a two-handed tapping and it literally changed guitar rock overnight. There was people that were trying to uh mirror and mimic it and just couldn't do it, and then thousands and thousands and thousands of musicians started copying Eddie's uh playing style because it was so unique and different and was really standing out, and people wanted to be able to try to do exactly what he was doing. And is this the biggest innovation ever when it becomes a guitar soloist? Because listen, Johnny be good, it really started everything, right? And it was but this created, in my sense, the whole genre of the way things were done in like hair metal in the 80s. Absolutely and stuff. This really created a lot of stuff. Eddie Van Halen is is uh so innovative, and the way he even like uh designed instruments and fucked with them in ways that just give it different sounds. He was he was a mad genius in the in in the way he played and created. Uh and it was a and you know, uh someone said once before that he was like uh if you had him as a sports, like if he was like an athlete, who would he be? And everyone's like, he would have been the babe Ruth of guitar players as Babe Ruth was to hitting baseballs, because the way that Babe Ruth hit baseballs and home runs and made home runs so popular and and more people wanted to be like Babe Ruth is like how Eddie Van Halen played guitar and pushed it in ways to do it differently so that they can get that style elevated.

SPEAKER_03 55:26

Yeah. I mean, babe Ruth, Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, whoever you can find that's the best of whatever, that's what that's what Eddie Van Halen was. And I think you look at I think it's I think it's kind of ironic that you've got Chuck Berry and and Eddie back to back on this list because you've got Chuck who kind of, like you said, laid the foundation. We're gonna talk about another guitar player later on that I think is that kind of second wave of amazing guitar innovation, which is Hendrix. And then you've got Van Halen, who is like the third wave of, I mean, these are your these are your three kind of pillars of guitar God, all the things. I mean, you've got you've got Chuck, and then Chuck makes this huge innovation, you know, and then influences tons of people, and then you've got Hendrix, who kind of takes off from where he was and does his thing, and then you've got Van Halen who just also takes off from Hendricks, and there's a there's a line of of progress, I think you you say there. And uh yeah, Eddie Van Halen did everything on Eruption, and it's just all there laid out for you. So it's great, and it's still, you know, it's still one of those songs that I don't turn it off when it comes on. It's it's fun to listen to. It's it's fun. I like to see him, I like to watch videos of him playing it live because you know he played talk about technical proficiency. When he would play it live, even when he was older, it was on the money. I mean, it sounded it was just like the record. It sounded amazing and it was perfect, like every freaking note, like he didn't miss. And um, and I think, but I think he still played it with emotion and passion and all of those things. But I mean he was just yeah, he was just un unreal. Unreal if you didn't get to see him live. I mean, but watch some video of him on YouTube because the dude was crazy, crazy amazing.

SPEAKER_04 57:22

I mean I I honestly feel that if we didn't have Eddie Van Halen's playing style and the way he did things, I don't know if Mike McCready would be the guitarist he is now in the way that he plays his songs.

SPEAKER_03 57:37

Oh, sure.

SPEAKER_04 57:38

It's a hot take.

SPEAKER_03 57:43

I mean, I think people will initially look at McCready and the main influence is Hendrix. I mean, that's the line you you you say McCready and Hendrix, and I think that a lot of that has to do with the alive solo, but which is very, very Hendrix-y. But um, but no, I think that um I think that you can definitely see that that McCready, uh that, that Van Halen influence on McCready. I think you really see it with in my in my humble opinion, I think you really see it with Jerry Cantrell and um with a lot of the with a lot of the harmonics and and the hammer ons and stuff like that. Like it's it's so the when you watch when you watch, and you would think I'm like the biggest Van Halen fan of the world, and I'm not, but when you watch Eddie Van Halen, first of all, he doesn't have effects. He doesn't use effects at all. He might I think there's there might be like one thing, I can't remember what he called it or what it was called. He he had like one effects box that he would use, or like an MXR or something. Okay, but he everything was just guitar amp, and ever all the sounds he made were guitar. He's like, all you need is a good guitar and a good amp. That's all you need. You don't need the whole thing of songboxes. So he used very little effects. He did tons of stuff. You watch him play with harmonics and and hammer ons and all kinds of shit, but the harmonic stuff was really a huge part of his playing. And he would because he could actually write songs based on harmonics and and not just chords and stuff like that. So he would actually turn harmonic, like weird soundy shit into into songs, which was really cool. Um which I think is kind of and a lot of that if you a lot of Allison Chain stuff is very, very influenced by that. And Jerry uses harmonics a ton. So especially on like the beginning of the beginning of wood and stuff like that, that kind of like echoey shit is just like he's just like hitting those those harmonic notes, which are super, super cool. Um and Jerry also was a very uh low effects guy, he didn't use tons of different effects, he used uh you know, a couple different things and a whammy and and whatever. Um, so very influenced by it by Eddie. But um, yeah, one of the great guitar solo songs ever, which is also gonna lead us. Also, also written in 1978, written and released in 1978, and was number three on the guitar world list. It's Pink Floyd.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:13

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I haven't done my right or wrong yet. Oh, we'll do your right or wrong quickly. I'll do it quickly. Right? Okay, uh, it changed guitar forever. That yeah, I mean that's where I think it got it right. Uh, most influential solo ever. I think that's and it's probably a technical revolution in its own sense, whereas to be able to bring things. Uh wrong, I yeah, and once again, this is just being having the right or wrong of things. It's instrumental, not attached to a traditional song. And is it as emotional in a storytelling way that let's say like Purple Rain was? So Purple Rain probably a more emotionally driven, where this one asn't as emotionally driven in in its own sense.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:48

But I agree. I think that this is more of a you know technically proficient killer kind of guitar solo. I I think it it it does lack the emotion of some of the other stuff on the list. Um I agree with that, yeah. I don't think I don't think not that Eddie Van Halen, there's not a lot of emotionality, I think, in Van Halen music. Um not that he didn't play with emotion, because I think he did, but I don't think that that emotionality comes out kind of like we talked about in Maggot Brain. I think you can see Maggot Brain is is is a very emotional song and a very emotional solo, and I don't see um I don't see that as much in in Van Halen stuff. I agree with you.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:34

Yeah now, number four.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:37

Talk

#4 Comfortably Numb And Melodic Power

SPEAKER_03 1:01:38

about emotion. You're gonna feel it in number four.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:42

Yeah, Pink Floyd comfortably numb. Some fun facts for you. David Gilmore had to record multiple takes before selecting the final solo because he wanted to be as perfect as possible. It is frequently voted the greatest guitar solo by guitar magazines. So many guitar magazines have this as the number one greatest guitar solo, and it was made famous for phrasing in its guitar style.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:08

I don't know a lot about phrasing. Um I his tone is insane, and it's super distinctive in this song. I think this is kind of where he kind of found that it's a little psychedelic, it's a little, but it's it's it's a little, it feels like something that you'd hear in space. I mean, it's just like so original and um and kind of all-encompassing. It's just such a great, like, like mood. I mean, it really and and you definitely feel emotion in this in this solo. It's just like can just kind of tune everything out and just really let it flow and um and yeah, it's just really I mean, you think of other Gilmore solos, but I mean, this is just the one that always comes to this is their stairway. This is this is his stairway. I mean, it's just that definitive, and uh, I don't think you'd ever hear and it's not like I mean, is it technical? Yes, it's not flashy, I don't think. No, yeah, I think it serves the song, but it also um it also is kind of understated. I mean, it's not a solo that's like, you know, look at me, I can do all these tricks.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:27

I will say, like, with this song, like every note he plays matters and works in a way, and if you remove one, it ultimately changes the way the song could sound. Yeah. It it is a very uniquely god. I love this song. This is such a great song. You know, uh, this is one of those bands too that frustrates the fuck out of me that they literally just couldn't get their shit together to go play again. Because this is one of those bands that like uh they're just they're they were just so them and Zeppelin just so good. And just I wish I would have been able to see that as a as a whole. Um Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:20

I mean, I saw them when they toured for Division Bell, but that was just Gilmore. I mean, it wasn't it wasn't all of Floyd. Um and it was and I wasn't a huge fan, but it was a really great experience. I mean, it was just a huge show. It was in Ohio Stadium, you know, it's like a hundred thousand people, and it just just a really amazing experience, and um, and yeah, that's that song just really stands the test of time, and it's I think it's super emotional. And you're right that it's like if you take out like one note here or there, it just changes the whole flow of it. It's crazy. It is yeah, and and I just love and I just love that tone. That tone is just so distinctive that you just you just know it's David Gilmore, and he is just know it's David Gilmore.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:08

Not to beat this dead horse, but I and also I feel like we're gonna be in the podcast that loves Mariah Cowry and fucking hates Steely Dan, but like this song is going to create guitarists down in 50 years. People are gonna be wearing Pink Floyd shirts to the end of time. Oh god, yeah. I mean this David Gilmore is creating musicians. Like fucking, I like every time I listen to Pink Floyd, it just makes you feel something. And that is the whole purpose of music. It is to make you feel something. This song makes the guitar also, everything about it makes you fucking feel something. And that like you know, David Gilmore, there's no wasted note in this song, and the and the melody is so much more contagious than the speed of it when it comes to the idea of the guitar solo and the song. It's not a very fast guitar solo, it's a melodic guitar solo, and it's something unique in its own sense. And David Gilmore is, in my opinion, is probably a top five guitarist of all time. I mean The way he did things, um, I never got to see him live. I got to see Roger Waters quite a few times. Um so let me get into the right and wrong, but before that, let me just listen real quick.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:14

That's my favorite part is when it comes in and yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:20

So with right, it's an emotional masterpiece. Like you you feel something, and that's for every Pink Floydson, but it's just you feel something. It's incredible, incredibly dynamic. It is a very dynamic guitar solo. And it's universally respected. Like it's just it's it's still like uh it's on the radio. Even the most technical guitarists love that stuff, even the most political guitarists love that stuff. It's something unique, universally loved. And that's where I think you once again wrong, someone could have potentially got it wrong. Uh doesn't innovate techno technically. Like it's not it's not innovating, it's not recreating the wheel, it's just it is the guitar solo. And some could argue it's safe because it's not the most, like I said, technically played, it is not the most innovatively played, it's just a guitar solo, David Gilmore being David Gilmore. But it works with a song, it has emotion, it is true, and it is in my way, in my opinion, creates those wanting to play guitar and those wanting to listen to it, and those giving those a feeling and emotions and rawareness. And that's where I think they've done it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:25

Yeah, I think it connects on an emotional level, and it's and that's why it makes people want to learn guitar and play guitar and and do things like that, because I think they have such an emotional connection to it.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:39

I agree. I agree. In my opinion, this is a top three. Like I I know it's yeah, we're put we're pulling hairs with it being number four, but in my opinion, it it this is a top three guitar soul of all time. Just under the idea of raw motion, I agree. But that's me.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:01

It's so definitive for that band and this player, and yeah, so absolutely.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:07

Moving on to number four.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:10

Um, number three.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:12

Three, sorry. Yeah, there you're good.

#3 Hotel California And The Duel

SPEAKER_04 1:08:18

Hotel California by the Eagles.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:22

Which was number five on the guitar world list. So, you know, we've got some um three on this list. Uh you know, I I have mixed feelings about this from the from a song perspective, it's one of my favorite songs. I do love Hotel California, and I sing it in the car whenever it comes on. Um and I think it's cool because it's one of the as far from a solo perspective, it's it's the it's this is the dueling solo. This is two players um kind of pushing each other um and doing different things. So it kind of stands on its own in that respect because we don't have any other songs on this list. Um, and I don't even know if there's any other songs on um on the list as a whole that are actually two-player solos, so it's original in that respect. Um, and it's often not not duplicated because how often do you have two great leads playing in the same band? Um, yeah. So but something about me, it's just like it's yet another one of these 70 songs. It kind of hits me in the way that the Steely Dan thing does. Um, but I I do think it's a it's memorable. Is it innovative? I don't know. Is it is it a song that is it a song that makes you want to run out and grab a guitar? Um, I don't know about that either. But uh I don't think we can discount the fact that this is played on you know classic rock radio every day, probably like 10 times. Um, and it's considered one of the best songs that's ever been written, one of the most memorable songs that's ever been written. Um, what do you think about it, Anthony?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:06

So I mean you're talking about a dual solo performed by Don Felder and Joel Walsh, right? So you have these two amazing guitarists doing something different. So in that sense, is it innovative? Yes, because it's something unique that's not seen as often having two guitarists performing solos or kind of battling each other. Um you know, is is this better than comfortably numb? No. Is this is this better than Eruption? No. Is this better than some of the songs that were taken not on this list in the top 10? No, in my opinion. But is this a top 10, top 15, top 20? Yeah, I think so. I mean, this the I I do think that this had people pick up, because I don't the song itself had people want to go pick up an acoustic guitar, because this is a song that a lot of people play acoustic guitar. Is the solo getting people to want to be guitarist? That I can't say for certain. I really couldn't see anything online, but I know that people love Google's, and this is a great song. This is a this is an amazing song. This is one of those songs that like I don't know, like I think of like 4th of July this Saturday when I'm drinking in my dead end. Like, this song's gonna come on and we're just gonna fucking smile.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:08

This has the emotion behind the people are gonna sing. I mean, yeah, everybody loves O California.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:19

Pretty such a lovely place.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:25

This it is it's it's amazing. But once again, so this is where is this but is this the greatest Harmony guitar solo though?

SPEAKER_02 1:11:36

Uh yeah, it could be.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:38

It could be because just because that I don't think that that's something that we that like we said, I don't think that's something we see a whole lot, and um we don't see the the the the harmony guitar solo like it's not it's not as prevalent as like the flashy guitar solo or the you know but so in that respect and it just kind of makes it kind of makes you wonder why. I mean, is it just that you don't have a lot of bands that have two great solo guitar players in it? I mean the Eagles were definitely a different type of band because they had a different makeup of um players, and they've got three guitarists. I mean, so I mean that's that's you don't have a lot of bands that have three guitar players. I mean, maybe Radio, I mean Radiohead comes to mind, but it's not like everybody has the ability to just be like, hey, let's just get three guitar players in the band. Um so it's it's unique from that perspective, definitely.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:46

So here's where I think Rolling Stone got it right and where they got it wrong. It is instantly recognizable. The first couple of chords to this song, first couple notes, you know what it is. Is this possibly? And this is a hot take, and this is where I think they had it right, and I thought is this the greatest ending to a song ever? Like, is this the greatest ending to a song ever created? Like the way that this song ends is quite arguably the best way a song is ever ending. It is done in a way that is, you know. Um, and then you know, guitar and the where has been right is like guitar players study this solo.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:22

Like this is Well, like kind of like you said about Johnny be good, which the solo starts the song. How many how many songs do we have where a solo ends it?

SPEAKER_04 1:13:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:34

I mean, so that's a good point.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:36

And the way that this does it too, it's and here's the thing. This is if you want to call a yacht rock, this is kind of hard to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:46

Hang on, hang on. This is my favorite part, right? Where it goes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:59

I love where they they they come together and to be able to layer it in a way that sounds good, because I mean, yeah, it's hard. This is a hard thing to do. I mean, I I feel like I'm talking myself out from not having this in the top five before I'm like, oh, should maybe top 1050 now listening to this, and I'm like, well, maybe this is a yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:18

It you know, it's maybe it's because we've just heard it. Yeah, but maybe because we've just heard it so much. Um but yeah, this the ending is just together, and I love that that that riff, the doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo and then it's really hypnotic, and it's and I and I love how their tones are both distinct. I mean, you can still hear them both, even though they're playing the same stuff. But you know, this the guitar sounds, you know, they work together, but they're distinct enough to sound, you know, you know that they're separate, which is is cool. So um yeah, maybe I have talked myself into you know enjoying that and giving it a little bit more of its due. That's why we do this show because we surprise ourselves.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:05

That's right. That's what that is why Mariah Carey fans seem to love us so much. We talk ourselves into loving something.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:10

I I love yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:12

Okay. Uh and here's where I think Rolling Stone potentially got it wrong. It is more composition than it is improv improv improvisation. It is definitely more the way it's written, and you have two guitars playing it. There's not, it's not a solo as it's more it is a guitar solo, but it is written in a way that it's it's supposed to be blended together to be this musical experience to end the song in its own sense. So that's something is that really a guitar solo because it's not really a solo, because solo in its own sense is singular, it is two guitars playing with each other. And then it is is this considered safe when you think about it in the sense of like other you know guitar solos when you think of like Jimi Hendrix.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:58

Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Are you waiting for me?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:01

Oh yeah, I was waiting for a response.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:03

Oh, okay. No, I agree. Um, I agree. That's a good those are good points. Um the the the idea I didn't think of that. The idea of the of the solo being one person, um, and this and this being more of a duo. Uh yeah, that's an interesting um an interesting way to think about it. I didn't think about that. But uh Yeah, that's that's that's definitely something to discuss. And to ponder. But I I think that we both agree that it it definitely deserves to be on there in the like it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:32

Yeah, right or wrong, I mean, in the sense it's just finding ways to open discussions and for us to get ripped apart on social media later on. So that's that's about it. But you mentioned Hendrix.

#2 Hendrix Live And The Art Of Noise

SPEAKER_04 1:16:42

Which we lead right into.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:43

Yes. Now this was the one, so I listened to the record version and then realized that what they were talking about was the live version, and they're totally different. And the live version is insane. 100% 100%, and it sounds and it has way more passion and emotion, and all of those types of things, which I think I think all Hendrix is is passion and emotion. Um uh it's definitely like definitive Hendrix sound, the tone, everything. Uh, I think my question is, is like it's kind of the whole song, so is that is it really a solo? Or is it just kind of a free form song? Yeah. Um, I don't know. But uh, but yeah, it does and then we get into the debate about live versus studio and all that kind of stuff. Um, but this version just blew the you know, blew the recorded version out of the water, the one the studio version.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:55

It is considered as one of the greatest improvisations ever created. I'm gonna I probably said that wrong. Improv improvisation.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:03

Improvisation.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:04

Thank you very much. Ever created.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:06

Real close, yeah. Thank you. But no, I I agree. It's just and just so much of like Hendrix Live was just like the emotion and the impulse and the in the improvisational skill of of what he does um and what he did. Uh so yeah, but you know, we get back to those questions about you know studio version versus, you know, I saw so I think it's the same types of questions, but I think we can and and then my the my other thought is like this isn't the most well-known Hendrix quote unquote solo. Um so where I see that it's like just amazingly done and and very passionate and and emotional and all that stuff, and you know, obviously Hendrix is one of the greatest guitar players of all time. Um did they is this another one of those, like, you know, we know this song and you don't kind of a thing? Or you know, we're gonna pick the the Hendrix song you don't know and not Purple Haze or not, you know, Foxy Lady or something like that. Um, or Voodoo Child. Um, but uh that being said, I still thought it was pretty amazing and really, really loved it.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:24

To me, this is a great piece of art, right? This was inspired by the Vietnam War. I mean, he's literally making his guitar sound like a bomb, helicopters, gunfire. It is a piece of art. And it's and it's gonna be one of those things that, like, that's what was unique about Hendrix. Hendrix was able to do things and make sounds that really created an influence of the guitarist. And, you know, is this the greatest live solo ever? I that is up for its own debate and could be its own list. Um, and it really the guitar is the storyteller in this in its own sense because it's it's making noises that are imitate, imitate, imitating tonight, imitating what he's talking about and he's singing about and let's be realistic. No one sounded like Hendrix before Hendrix. Hendrix created a sound that literally jumpstarted an era of the people we've been talking about on this list after him. Yeah. You know, and that is where it's interesting. Um, and here's my right or wrong Rolling Stone, right? I think it completely reinvented the electric guitar. Like, I think Johnny be good, and then this really did re- it totally created something unique and inspired musicians. And it this is imp improving in at the highest level of improving. Your own guitar still, everything that was done in the song is is at like level 10 and even beyond that in a way that it's just like it shouldn't be done.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:54

I it just but I think to put it on the to put it at number two of the list of the greatest guitar solos ever, I think we also get to the point where I this isn't a song that casual listeners are familiar with. Um it's great in in all of the things, um, all those things, but yeah, it's not it's not a song like I mean I I think of Hendrix songs and you think of All Along the Watchtower and Purple Haze and Voodoo Child and and all those songs that you that you have heard a lot um and are just more recognizable than this one. Yeah. Um it this is great, and and it's and it does have all of that. It really made me think of like I've thought like is this better than his uh Starspangle Banner at Woodstock? Like that that's that maybe put those two together and like interesting. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:47

That's a great talking point, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:49

Yeah, like in in similar ways, like he he makes the guitar sound like and it also made me think of Tom Morello and how he took the guitar and makes it sound like all kinds of different things. I mean, that's it that's very Hendrix-y uh of of Tom Morello, and he did that in a in a different way, um, with different effects and different, you know, uh different techniques that he kind of pioneered on his own. Uh but yeah, I just don't know if if this should be in the top ten. I think there if you're gonna pick a Hendrix solo, it should be something that's that's more universal and recognizable. Well, I agree with you. I think by picking this, it's just them going like, oh, we know this song and you don't.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:29

Yeah. And I agree with you, and that's I think that Rolling Stones got it wrong. Rolling Stone magazine got it wrong, where it's you know, it's it's more of a difficult listen than other mainstream classics that Jimi Hendrix had. I mean, this is not the casual drive in the car, put a song on. You're not I'm for most people and myself, I'm not putting this song on while I have my top down on my Jeep. This is not the song I'm jamming to going down the highway. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:51

And you know, casual fans really probably know like Purple Haze and and nobody's going into guitar center and playing this, but they're going to this. But this one is just and this is like avant-garde, and just like it's not, I mean, if he was if he wasn't even singing, I don't know if you'd even call it like a song. It's just like this free form kind of yeah, yeah. It's more of an art piece. It's not it's not um it's not something that's gonna hit the top ten or be and not that it has to, but it's just not it's not one of the most recognizable Hendrix songs.

SPEAKER_04 1:23:33

But I would, in my opinion, on my list of of top guitar solo time, Jimi Hendrix would be above Jimmy Page. But in on this list, as we're talking about in the top ten, in my opinion, Stereo to Heaven is definitely more of a guitar solo that I would speak of above this, this song. And that's where I find this uh the issues with some of the the talking points on this.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:54

But well, ironically, and and ironically, going back to the guitar world list, not a Hendrix song in the top 10, which I'm sure we probably said that's bullshit. But the question, I think the question remains is like, which song do you pick? Like which Hendrix song is it? And I think you could probably we could probably have a whole podcast on just that, uh a whole episode on which Hendrix solo is the best solo of all time. Um and I probably said it was the star, I probably said Star Spangled Banner during the Guitar World One, just because of you know, the historical historical aspect, the fact that it was at Woodstock, the Vietnam stuff, um, you know, the fact that it's still widely recognized as one of the great like improvisational solos of all time. But then again, that's not a song. It's just a it's it's not a song song. So all those other things get debated.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:52

But uh I will say that there's gonna be one thing we are not gonna debate, or I hope not. I don't think there's gonna be much debate on the next song.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:02

I would be surprised if there was.

#1 Purple Rain And Restraint

SPEAKER_04 1:25:05

At number one on this list is one of the greatest multi-musicians of all time, a prince with a purple rainbow. Yes. Frequently considered one of the most emotional guitar solos ever, which I I agree with. Prince played every instrument on many of his albums, including this song. His 2004 rock and roll uh performance completely changed public perception of him as a guitarist when they saw him play it live. Perfect example of less is more. I I I I mean, because once again, this is not over the top, less is more. Every phrase builds emotionally in the song. It is a constant build upon build upon build. It is a roller coaster of emotions. It doesn't rely on speed, kind of like comfortably numb and the idea of what a guitar solo is.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:21

That's a really good point because we know that Prince can play fast and and do all the guitar things the way he's supposed to. But yeah, it's it's this is I think a really good uh a really good uh example of restraint. Similar to comfortably numb. I think that's a really good just the the restraint of the player to really do what is is in service of the song and and the emotional flow of the song. Uh yeah, he he can go wild and do all the Eddie Van Halen things, but this isn't the song for that, and he doesn't have to, but it's so well constructed a song, and the solo itself is just really blends into the entire song. And you also get kind of like what we had in Hotel California, where the solo is kind of at the end. I mean, it's yeah, it's there's a little bit, but it really, you know, it really takes the song to that emotional, that emotional height at the end of it.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:26

It is such a great song.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:29

And also Prince also had a really distinct tone. And um, yeah, and you really get a lot of that in this song specifically. This I mean, this is obviously the showcase for that for that movie and that album and and you know, Prince's whole career.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:49

So this is my right or wrong with Rolling Stone when it comes to song. Right. This is a motion over technique 100%. This is the definition of a motion over technique done so well. It is universally recognizable. I would say 90% of music listeners, I'd say 95% of music listeners know this song. Oh, easy. Yes. The solo perfectly serves the song in a way that it's almost built. The song's built around the solo. Prince provided elite guitar players don't need to shred to be a guitar soloist. You can play in a way that's not shredding and be something different. That is where Prince really did things differently. And this is where I think he they got it wrong. And once again, it's it's all hypothetical, it's just talking points, but not technically harder than dozens of other solos, right? It's not the most technically driven one. Um I mean, like, you know, and if you talk about how guitar solos changed things and built platforms as we talked about, like Johnny B Good and Jimi Hendrix and Eddie. Oh, damn it. Fucked it up.

SPEAKER_03 1:29:09

All right. Um I slightly, but yeah, it's I don't I love that. Yeah, when it when it kicks in and then I like when he gets into the da Oh, there you go.

SPEAKER_04 1:29:41

Yeah. So fucking good. Um, but yeah, Hendrix and Eddie really were like building platforms where their guitar solos really elevated to next level. It's not elevating it by any means. Um and some argue that influence should outweigh emotion when it comes to guitar solo. And this is definitely the most 100% emotional when it comes to things and guitar solos and how the song was built around it.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:09

Um I think probably arguably the top in the top if we took this list and said, what are the best songs on this list, it would be it would still be in the top three of the best of the best songs on this list if we were just going by a perspective of song. Um yeah, it would still be in the top three. So I mean, I think it works on both levels. It works as a full song, and then it works, you know, the solo itself. You know, it's very similar to I I would say, gosh, I'd say if I had to pick like the top three songs, it would probably be Purple Rain in in no particular order, Purple Rain Hotel California, and while my guitar gently weeps, I would think are three my three best songs on this.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:04

Uh Comfortably Numb and Stairway to Heaven.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:08

Okay, and I could totally yeah. So I can totally see that.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:12

So now here is here's when I'm asked some questions.

Our Rules For A Great Solo

SPEAKER_04 1:31:16

We've listened to some amazing guitar solos this evening. Amazing guitar solos, some questionable, but still technically, emotionally, innovationally, difficultly, melodically, and when it comes to that, right? But what truly makes in your opinion, when you think of a guitar solo, what is it that makes it a great guitar solo?

SPEAKER_03 1:31:37

I think it needs to be memorable. I think it is something that it it's it needs to be memorable and indelible. You just need to you you need to remember it. Um you know, it's gotta have that. I think it it does need to be um I think it needs to have an original tone to it. I I think that's really important for me. And um and it needs to serve the song. Those are the th the three things that I would that I would look for. Um it doesn't have to be, you know, it doesn't have to be technically perfect, it doesn't have to be a hundred percent innovative, uh but I do want it to do all of those. I want it to be memorable, I want it to be uh totally interesting, and um and I want it to serve the song. What about you?

SPEAKER_04 1:32:28

I think it's gotta be an emotional, memorable. I think that's it. I really think it's gotta be emotional. I think I I would go with it. It's gotta make you feel something.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:37

Yeah, he's got he's gotta feel something, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:32:38

It's gotta it in the song itself, like a song makes you feel something. The guitar solo should add to it in a way that makes it separate in its own way. Like when you think of comfortably numb, that guitar solo it makes you feel like comfortably numb makes you feel something anyway. That part makes you feel something more and it adds to it in a way that's different.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:55

So, you know, that's that's I think similar, yeah, similar to Purple Rain. I think it it it really takes it takes you as a listener and the song to another level. Um I think I think comfortably numb, I think that that solo is is comforting. I think it really is a it's like that solo is like a warm blanket that just you know kind of covers you, it just makes you feel comfortable and and and safe. So yeah, I think that that's um for me, I agree. Yeah, I think the emotion's gotta be there too.

The Big Solos Rolling Stone Missed

SPEAKER_04 1:33:29

Let me get into some songs that I was shocked were not in the top ten, and I'm gonna give you a little listen to them. You tell me just listening to it, if you agree or disagree, and then I'll give you my reasons why. Does that sound fair?

SPEAKER_01 1:33:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:33:44

Alright, so here's the first one. Let's get right to the guitar solo.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:03

Yeah, I do think it's kind of a bummer that there wasn't a slash solo. There was Sweet Child of Mine was on the guitar world list at number six. Um I still think Sweet Child of Mine is my favorite slap, one of my favorite slash solos. Um, but this one is just with this epic song. And it's Andy, andy's, you know, there's the solo in the middle, and there's the solo at the end. So, and I love how they're totally different.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:33

Like this one is, you know, but then this one is so calm and calming, and then you get the one at the end where it's like and it really dude, it's the emotional arc that bridges the two parts of the songs together and the way that he builds this. And in my opinion, this is slash def is defining solo. I mean, this build-up right here.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:00

Well, it's yeah, he's got like he's got like three solos in the song. There's like two or three separate solos, and yeah. And yeah, so I think that it's yeah, I I don't know how well I could tell you who I'd kick out um of the last of that list to put Slash in. But uh sorry, Maggot Brain and Kid Charlemagne, but he'd be in there. But no, uh, that's definitely um in my my top list of of Slash. That just yeah, it's all of the the variety and he's just he was such a and interesting too because you know he's got a very distinctive tone. Yeah. Um not I wouldn't say super innovative. He's just a solid, solid lead, you know, rock lead guitarist. A hundred. Like and one of the best. One of the best top. But yeah, not like you know, Dimebag Daryl and not super flashy, but could be not, you know, very not super innovative, but I'm sure just but just does all the things well and solid.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:12

This like it's the I'm I think there might be a million guitar solos in the song. I'm just thinking about it as we go through. It just seems to be yeah, it's like there's another one. Yeah, I just it's so fucking good. It's so good. So this I I was shocked. Um, all right. Next on my list, um, this one is yelled at at every concert. Yeah. Let me get right to the part of the guitar solo if I can. So let me.

unknown 1:36:37

Some as free.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:46

I mean, when you think of I mean, everyone yells Freebird at a show. I mean, it's just funny, whatever. Leonard's getting a freebird. It is probably one of the greatest endings in rock when it comes to the idea of the song, right? And the guitar style and how it plays out. Um, it is one of the most probably legendary live songs in the the sense of how it's either covered or played by the band. Um, and it is like a true guitar army finish, the way it's played in this build-up and absolutely stunning. And the fact that this is not in the top 10, and I could we could there's a song we could probably pull off real quick and throw this in, but this is amazing.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:20

This was and this was also this was on the guitar world top 10 at number 8. So But yeah, also widely considered one of the the best, you know, solo, best solo songs ever made.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:33

Yeah. Alright.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:35

And then I think the next one is yeah, this is another one that you're like, this should have been on it too. Now this was number 10 on the Guitar World list, and I think I mean Randy Rhodes is just insane.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:52

Dude, he changed metal forever.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:55

Randy Rhodes. Well, and it's interesting because, you know, very around the same time as around the same time as Eddie, um, but was able to do something comp, you know, put works in more of this like um this classical style. You know, but metal, but like a classical style to it. I mean, here. You ready? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:26

Oh. But then he does it in a totally different way.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:30

And I mean, this this hits a lot of the talking points. Emotional, oh yeah, I mean, he was classically influenced, like you said, and brought that into a privately trained, but but made made that into metal, which is yeah, and then I mean, like, he influenced and still influences guitar players to this day, and people recognize him as a guitar player from a band that was literally named after the lead singer in Ozzie Osborne. You knew Randy Rhodes. Like, there it wasn't like you know, a back like he wasn't a session guitarist. No, he had his own sound, it was unique to its own, and it was a it's a technical masterpiece. And the fact that it's not in the top ten is absolutely a shame. And it's I agree. Now, then the next one, you know, uh this was another one that you know I read on some lists and I listened to, and I kind of had to agree. Stevie Ray Vaughn, Texas Flood. I mean, once again, this is something different. It's it's a blue style solo, which is different than anything else that's on the list. It's got an incredible feel of motion, and it's probably one of the greatest, he's probably one of the greatest live guitar players ever to live.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:36

Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's any doubt about that, and and I'm I'm looking at you, Steely Dan. I could just move you out and move, you know, Stevie Ray right in there. But uh Yeah, and and nobody is gonna argue, you know, his his talent and his influence and just you know the originality of his playing and and everything. I prefer I I mean, and no disrespect to Texas Ludd, I prefer like faster Stevie Ravon, but either way, I mean, the guy is was a a massive, massive talent. I mean, such a such a gosh, I mean, and you just put him in crazy train back to back, and you know, they both died in plane crashes, so that's weird.

SPEAKER_04 1:40:19

Well, the next artist has not died in a plane crash, and then Pearl Jam's alive. All right, let's get to the guitar. This is one hundred percent, like you said, multiple times tonight. Mike Fritty is one hundred percent inspired by Jimi Hendrix. It is definitely the greatest guitar solo coming out of the Grunge era in the 90s. This is the top of the top. And what's crazy about this song in general and the way Mike McCree does it, every time you see him live, he in evolves the guitar solo and does something different with an ultimate is unique in its own sense, and it is absolutely criminal not to be in the top 10.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:35

Well, and he it feels like like half of that song is solo. Like, I mean, there's solo and then the tiny tiny like third verse, and then it's just more solo to the end of the song. So he's soloing like half of the song away, and it's just yeah, it's one of my and Mike has had, you know, we all know we're big Pearl Jam fans, and Mike has great solos um in lots of songs, but but alive always seems to, you know, always seems to rise to the top. And and when he does it live, yeah, it's just it's he makes it sound so different and new and alive every single time. And it's one of those songs you just don't get tired of.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:18

I I agree. Next on my list Floods by the Band Pantera. And I'm not a big Pantera fan by any means.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:28

But what I'm not a big Pantera fan, but I really do love Dimebag and his, you know, his his innovation, uh, his tone, his style. Um it was just and he was just all you know technically proficient and and to do some of the things that he did. I to me he was kind of like he was kind of like um uh Randy Rhodes. I got like a really I get like a Randy Rhodes feeling with him, like just you know, but but the so heavy. Oh yeah. Like so heavy, but then the shit he would do with solos, or I would personally think I would pick like walk would probably be my favorite solo by him, but he just did things in a totally different way and um innovative, yeah. Innovative and had a different sound than what was happening, and you can still see it, you know, the influences, you know, the the Van Halen influences and things like that, but he definitely made it his own and and just and I hate to say it's so fucking heavy, just like crushingly heavy.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:41

Alright. Are you ready for the song that I am probably I I am shocked was not a good one?

SPEAKER_03 1:43:46

You love this. Well, everybody, you know, we get into this, you know. This is a this is a guitar hero classic. Uh if you could play this on Guitar Hero, you were the shit.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:58

Are you are you talking about Floods?

SPEAKER_03 1:44:00

No, no, the one you're gonna the one you're coming up with next. Did you ever play GitHub you played Guitar Hero, didn't you?

SPEAKER_04 1:44:06

Yeah.

unknown 1:44:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:07

This is not the song. This is on the list, but this is not the song I was gonna talk about. I was gonna skip this one, but I will play. This was not the song I was upset with in the top ten. This is a great song.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:18

Is it the next one that you're because I I do love that song too. So yeah, I I agree. And it was on the guitar world list, and it's usually on the lists of songs. Guitar solos.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:30

But look at solo right from the get go, yeah. Technically done, emotionally driven, I mean, uh so well done.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:38

But once in the same way, but even though it's but even though it doesn't have lyrics, I mean it's still to me it sounds like a song. Like it sounds like it's got a beginning, a middle, and an end.

unknown 1:44:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:44:51

But it it it's it's clever. But the song that upset me the most, and I'm not even a big dire straits fan by any means, but how sultra I and he was a different, you know, he was a very you know, jazz inspired.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:09

The thing always got me is that he didn't play with a pick. He finger picked everything. Isn't that true? And to me, yeah, to me, that's really because I mean especially growing up, you know, especially in the 90s, everybody played with a pick. I mean, and he's like just that style of of finger picking is not it's more country than it's more of a country style, um, not a rock style. So to see it used in an in a rock, and yeah, and 33 on the current on the Rolling Stone list, that's just disrespectful. Disrespectful.

SPEAKER_04 1:45:46

Especially when you have especially when you have, you know, Stillie Dan that high up.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:53

Well, let's I mean, look at so there's even ahead of let's see, the Isley Brothers is ahead of him, or is ahead of that. Uh Santa and I do like Black Magic. Oh, that's a very great song. Yeah. Like television marquee moon. No, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:10

No great song, great band, but yeah, not not better than Dire Straits.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:18

I mean In the sense of Sultrons of Swing. That's what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:22

Oh, I love I love Sol. I mean, I and I love uh I love, you know, uh I want my MTV that one too, but I do love and Solons of Swing's a song that comes on the radio. I don't skip it. I mean it's a great song. I love the story, I love it's just and it just sounds different. It sounds different, it's unique in its own sense. Yeah, it's unique in its own way.

SPEAKER_04 1:46:45

You're bringing it's uh a different style to that what they are classifying as a guitar solo. So yeah, so that was shocking. And then last on the last that I was surprised by was Crossroads by Cream because this is Eric Clapton performing at a level that is out of this world. And I was just shocked.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:13

Well, and for and and for them to have Clapton on there with the Beatles is a little weird. It is weird. Like just no no disrespect to the Beatles, but just put put Clapton on there.

SPEAKER_04 1:47:26

But I'm not a huge Clapton guy, but let me let me ask you some questions as we dive into this idea of guitar solos.

Memorability Versus Difficulty

SPEAKER_04 1:47:34

Is the greatest solo the one that everyone remembers? Is that the one that is gonna be the greatest guitar solo? That everyone needs to know it.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:43

I don't know if it's gonna be if if everyone needs to know it, but I think um but I think a lot almost everybody needs to know it. I mean I think that that's I think the indelibility of it is is pretty um is pretty I'm not saying that people that don't like music um need to know it, but um I think yeah, I think there needs to be a kind of a bit of a universal understanding. I certainly think, you know, I compare it to comparing this list to the guitar world list, um we knew all of the songs on the guitar world list. And I think that that's that's what a top ten list should be. I'm not I'm not saying that I'm not saying they can't have something on there, but I think it's it's different, but I think most people, even the casual listener, should should have a frame of reference for for what are considered the best solos of all time. I that's what I think. Do you agree?

SPEAKER_04 1:48:38

I I agree with I agree with everything you're saying. I I think that you need I think it needs to be something that the majority of the casual to moderate music listener has to know. I mean, it's just it it's it's one of those things because it's gotta be something that builds and influences enough that people will talk about it that maybe the country artist who is influenced by that brings you that talks about it, you would know the influence based off of that and stuff.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:02

Um I think we talk about like you talk about songs and and things that have become like standards, which are like I mean, I think that these have I think that these are these are standards. These are like standard guitar solos. I mean, you don't necessarily want to hear them when you walk into guitar center, but you probably will. And um there's a reason for that. I mean, they're indelible, they kind of live on, um and um and they and people do know them. They just they just know what they are. They're they're they're something that's kind of woven into the fabric of of music.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:39

Well, let me ask you this should difficulty matter when it comes to the idea of what a great guitar solo is?

SPEAKER_03 1:49:45

I don't personally think uh I don't think it doesn't matter to me. Um if it matters to someone then that's fine, but I don't think a solo has to be difficult for it to be considered great.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:00

I think we proved that tonight with some of the guitar solos that we had. We even the top in the top ten lists tonight. Some of those are not the most difficult, but they are emotionally and memorably driven in, and that's why they're in that list.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:13

Well, I think that we that's just the kind of you know, we that's what we look for in the music that we listen to. I think that you and I look for, and I think a lot of people do, obviously, look for an emotional connection or something that they can connect to in that way. Um, so yeah, I think that that's that's that's more important to us and and to me than than the technical difficulty of it. I don't I mean you can you can solo, you could you could Steve Vai or Ingve Malmstein all day long, but that doesn't mean it's gonna like touch you.

SPEAKER_04 1:50:45

Do you think the way that music is going now? And I'm gonna bring up uh uh something that will kind of work with this in a minute, but do you think that today's players are becoming more expressive again in the style they're playing and the way they're playing the guitar?

SPEAKER_03 1:51:01

I think some of them are. Um and I think I think Jack White is a is a good example. Um I don't know. Have you heard of Grace Bowers?

SPEAKER_01 1:51:11

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:12

Yeah, I think Grace Bowers, um, like uh Garrett Clark Jr., people like that. Um St. Vincent. St. Vincent, yeah, absolutely. I mean, there are some, um, but I but as far as things that like are making it to kind of like pop radio, I don't really think so. You know, I I think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:37

Well, I mean that's where that's where my next point's gonna be brought up. When you think of

New Guitar Music Kids Actually Hear

SPEAKER_04 1:51:42

artists that are popular right now that are actually charting and are being like my daughter who's 10 and her friends are listening to these artists, which are mind-blowing to me. When you have artists like Olivia Rodrigo, the last dinner party, wet leg, fontaines DC, who are really truly bringing that guitar playing rock-driven music back to the mainstream conversation. This was not happening five years ago, ten years ago, what to a younger generation. This is definitely becoming a more upfront thing. You know, Taylor, you know, Taylor Swift, who in a role sense is an amazing artist, great singer-songwriter. Olivia Rigo, her music. If you listen to her new album, there are hints of like the cure, there's hints of like demo music, there's hints of like 80s synth. I mean, there's and and and rock music, there's different styles that she's bringing to the mainstream that's also introducing kids to music, bringing it back to it, and they're bringing it profile.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:37

Yeah, and I think the fact that she like, you know, she has performed with um, she's performed with Robert Smith, and and she makes that, you know, she makes her affinity for that kind of music really clear. Um, and then the lineup for her festival that they're having in California is so great. Like the breeders and like Karen O, and just like it's it's like a little bit and Stevie Nix, I mean, it's like a little bit for everything. It's like there's some there's some stuff for you know, people that are our age, people that are older than us, and people that are younger than us. I thought it was an amazing lineup.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:13

The fact that she said, you know, how music influences her. I mean, and is interesting, and it what's weird to me and my daughter, who I bring to concert all the time, like yeah, how like she performs a Jack White, then she's performing a CMAT song, and then you know, she talks about Nine Inch Nails as one of her favorite live shows she's ever seen, and how she's really intertwining and opening up about things. It's just amazing. But what I loved so much about this festival she's putting on an all-female music festival in California with 100% of profits going to a charity. A 23-year-old musician is doing this.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:49

She's she's going out on tour, and I was I was looking for her management company, and she doesn't have a traditional management company. She like has some people that are very kind of similar to Taylor Swift, where she kind of does it all in-house. And I thought that's really awesome, and that's a really cool thing for you know a young female artist to do, and then hopefully, and then you mentioned like wet leg and the last dinner party. Man, my daughter plays the last dinner party all the time, and it's really good, and I really like it. And I really like went to see Supergirl this weekend, and they've got Catch These Fists by Wetleg in the movie, and it's awesome and it rocks, and it's just yeah.

A Quick Superman Movie Detour

SPEAKER_04 1:54:31

Okay, okay. Let me ask you a question because I'm going to see Supergirl this weekend. I I am so excited. Listen, I am a DC, love DC movies, wish nothing but the best for them. I want I'm look like looking forward to the future with it. Hopefully, it all works out.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:44

I think there's people out there that just shit on DC movies, a shit on DC movies. Yeah. What did you think about the movie?

SPEAKER_03 1:54:51

Um, I'm not a huge DC fan, and to be honest, uh bat I'm a more Batman guy than a the Superman person. Um it was fun. I enjoyed it. Um, I thought the script was a little weak. Um music was really good. I thought the music was awesome. Except there's a there's kind of a like a slow cover of The Middle by Jimmy E. World, which it kind of made me cringe a little bit. Um but I I let that go, and the rest of the music was pretty awesome. So overall, I gave it like three stars. It was fine for me. I'm sure that you I I think you'll like it. I think you'll probably enjoy it.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:27

So you'll hear you'll hear my you'll see my review when I post it online.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:30

Okay. But but no, it was it was fun. It was it was fun, and I loved the use of they they had wet leg was on, they had they had really good choices of songs um for the soundtrack, which it was female driven. And I was kind of disappointed that the director wasn't a woman, but you know, it was written by a woman, it's about a woman, and it's directed by a guy. That kind of rubbed me the wrong way a little bit, but I'm interested to hear what you think.

SPEAKER_04 1:55:54

Yeah, I'll um I play I hopefully I'll either see it tomorrow or Thursday. We'll see. I this is my last week of like enjoying life before all hell breaks are and I'm like, oh yeah, forever. Um let's get uh you know what? I think that's

Brian’s Beatles Apocalypse Art Print

SPEAKER_04 1:56:11

I think that's enough for topic. I think I think we I think we talked about it all. I I I think we got everything. But I do I I'm um let me see if I can pull it in now real quick. Hold on. I might freeze for a second as I try to pull in this photo. Um you just put out a new poster.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:28

Yeah, it's uh it's an art print um that I've been working I've been like I working on it for a little while and then stop and so like been doing it for like over two years, um, kind of back and forth. And uh I've always enjoyed the uh obviously I'm a Beatles fan. Um but that whole like intersection of like the Beatles White album and The Summer of Love and the Manson family and all that kind of crap, and and you know, Manson thought that the Beatles were talking to him and they were the you know they were gonna bring a pot bring about the apocalypse and all kinds of stuff. So it's a it's a art print that I've been working on. It's based on the etchings of uh this really old artist, Albert, Albrecht Duricht is his name. And he did a uh an etching called The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. Well, this is this is the Beatles as the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, with little Charlie Manson flying up in the top, and then there's all kinds of like references to the Beatles and the White Album and Charlie's theory of Helter Skelter and all kinds of stuff. And you know, it was a fun thing that I had wanted to do for quite a while. So I finally was able to get it printed and um got them available on the website at b-met-h-e.com. Um, I will be doing some there will be some doodled versions available, which I'll be doodling with song lyrics from songs from the White Album. Um and there's some images of those on the website. So, you know, feel free to take a look. And uh if you like them, I'll buy you and you buy one, I'll send you one, and I'll send you extra stuff, and uh I'll be forever grateful.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:10

And as what I will do is I am going to buy two copies of them. And one of them, if you are listening to the show, through the end of July, all you have to do is email email, message me directly through the Touring Fan Lives page, and I will give a lucky listener one of those copies that I'm buying. So we'll make sure we get that out to you. So through the end of July, all you have to do is message me saying that listen to the show, I want the poster, and I will pick a random person from those people and I will send it out to you. So all you have to do once again is go to the Touring Fan page. You go to touringfanlive.com, you can go click uh contact us, so that will go right directly to our email. You can go to our Facebook page, message us at theToringFan Live, or you go to our Instagram page or TikTok page and click it from there, and I will send one out so that you can display it on your wall at home and love it as much as Brian loved drawing it.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:02

That is very cool. And if you want, you can use the coupon code thank you for a discount in the store, and you can use it on anything you want.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:11

Nice. Can that well listen to that, do that, support a local artist? This is what it's all about. And you know, as we talk about things tonight, when we talk about guitar solos and emotion and how it brings in, Brian has always put emotion in his art, and that's why it is amazing, and that's why I'm look I constantly am looking at let me see if I can move that quickly. Above my desk is my Eddie piece that I have always been internally grateful for, which in my opinion started our friendship.

SPEAKER_03 1:59:42

Well, I it was your photo that inspired me.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:45

So crazy, crazy how it all works out. Uh-huh. Yeah. So, any final words, thoughts about the Rolling Stone magazine greatest guitar solos?

SPEAKER_03 1:59:56

You

Final Thoughts And Rolling Stone Clickbait

SPEAKER_03 1:59:57

know, it's just it's just always the same with with Rolling Stone and their and their clickbait and stuff. And we've just gotta, you know, yeah, thank you, Rolling Stone, for continuing to do it so we have something to talk about um when we're not talking about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and other things that we enjoy. But uh, but yeah, um, you know, Steely Dan fans, uh, look forward to seeing the comments. Um uh yeah, look forward to seeing what what you guys come up with. And um and and and Mariah Carey fans, we're we're here for you. So we're here for you. Until she gets voted in that's right. Yes, we are absolutely um Anthony. Do you have anything else to say?

SPEAKER_04 2:00:41

We

Spotify Playlist And How To Find It

SPEAKER_04 2:00:42

have the Gurious Guitar Solos, the ultimate playlist on Spotify. You'll be able to listen to all the songs tonight. Give us our opinions about it, um, about the top 10 from the Rolling Stones magazine and the songs that I believe should have been um given more opportunities to be in the top 10. Um I love that playlist idea. That's awesome. I I tried doing them differently. Did it with uh Let's Talk Vinyl. It was really actually worked out really well. We had, I think it was like 1,100 people listen and download the playlist on Spotify. So I said, you know what, let me try this, give it a whirl, because we talk about music a lot on both on both shows. Yeah, um, so I think it's a good opportunity for people to kind of interact and and kind of go from that way. So you can check out that. You can go on uh Spotify and just search uh the greatest guitar solo is the ultimate playlist, or you can go on to our Instagram page right now for Touring Fan Live, and you can see in the stories we have highlighted it. You can just click that and post it and uh listen to the list. Um, but that's it. That's it in a nutshell.

Next Up Bass Players List Tease

SPEAKER_04 2:01:36

I think I think next month, I think our list uh should shift a little. Okay. We've talked about great guitarists, we've talked about great uh guitar solos, we've talked to great lead singers. Hell, we've even talked about drummers before. There's gotta be a list about bass players. Oh, yeah. We have to find something we have in the many years we've been doing the show, which honestly, we've been doing a show for a long time when it when you really look at the the dates and how long far back we've gone and done this thing. That is true, and it's still so weird to me that in the many years I've known you, we have still never met face to face.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:15

Yeah, I know. Isn't that strange? It is weird. It is but it all but it's almost like but it's almost like a pen. Oh, here it is Rolling Stone, 50 greatest bases of all time.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:24

We're gonna rip that shit a fucking part. Oh, yeah. Hold on. If is number one something that I will be like, I agree with. Just tell me that much. Don't tell me what it is, but is it Well, let's see here.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:41

It's I have feeling to be some bullshit. Not I no, I I have no idea if you'd agree with it because I don't even know who this person is. And that is no disrespect to this person. I I will be the first person to say, I don't know a whole lot of bass players. And and if they didn't play in the 90s, I probably don't know any of them.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:00

Um we are going to have to do our homework over the next few weeks, Sheffield.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:04

We will definitely have to do some homework. All right, because I'm looking for uh I'm looking for Les Claypool, and uh I'm not seeing him. So there there may be some problems.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:16

All right. Well, listen, you know what? This could be I this I mean this is a this could be a learning experience.

SPEAKER_03 2:03:21

This is a learning experience for us, and uh yeah, we will definitely um you you tell me your schedule.

SPEAKER_04 2:03:28

I mean I mean we could do one sooner rather than later if you want to. So Okay. That sounds good. I will I will let you know.

Wrap Up And Sign Off

SPEAKER_04 2:03:36

Well, until next time, my name is Anthony. That is Brian, and we just spoke about a very unnecessary list.