The Good Ship Illustration
Welcome to The Good Ship Illustration - the podcast for illustrators who are quietly working away in their sketchbooks thinking⌠âis it just me?â
âŚitâs not just you!
Weâre Helen Stephens, Katie Chappell and Tania Willis - three full-time illustrators from three different corners of the industry (and three different age brackets ). We live in the same seaside town in the UK and started having cuppas and chats⌠and accidentally became illustration agony aunts.
Now we record those chats for you! We answer your questions about confidence, tricky clients, pricing your work, creative block, picture books, publishing, and everything in between.
⨠New episodes every Friday. â¨
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P.s. Fancy some freebies? Head to thegoodshipillustration.com for colour workshops, picture book templates, and other treats.
Byeeee for now!
x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)
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What publishers reeeeally want to see in your picture book pitch
First, before we jump into the show notes, here's the link to sign up to the Picture Book Pitching Masterclass we've got happening soon!
đď¸ When: 17th of November at 1 pm UK time
đ° Cost: Freeeee
đ˘ RSVP here: https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/pbpm
How do illustrators actually get their picture books published? And what really goes on at Bologna Childrenâs Book Fair?
This episode is all about pitching, portfolios, publishers, and⌠how we each pronounce the word plaster? đ
Hereâs what we cover:
- Bologna Book Fair! âď¸
- How to submit to the Bologna Illustrator Exhibition (deadline alert! They extended it to the 6th November! Sorry, we said the wrong date in this episode, but do let us know if you managed to submit something so we can high-five you.)
- The Picture Book Pitching Masterclass with Helen and Jane Porter đ https://www.thegoodshipillustration.com/pbpm
- How to pitch your book ideas
- Overcoming the terror of sharing your work đŹ
- Building resilience to rejection
- The âmyth of being discoveredâ
- Our excitin' Bologna Book Fair plans...
đ Timestamps
00:00 â Bologna excitement (and confusion)
01:00 â What really happens at the fair
02:00 â Snail mail sticker packs & upcoming Picture Book Masterclass
03:00 â Helenâs no-rules pitching philosophy
06:00 â Regional accent chaos: âmasterclassâ vs âplasterâ
07:00 â Getting seen by publishers (and why Instagram still matters)
08:00 â Facing the fear of rejection
10:00 â Mindset hacks: why what others think is none of your business
12:00 â Myths about being âdiscoveredâ
13:00 â Good Shipâs Bologna stand & plans for 2026
15:00 â Why every illustrator should go at least once
16:00 â Global publishing inspiration đ
17:00 â Dreaming up a âGone Fishingâ Good Ship stall
Links we mentioned:
- The Picture Book Course
- Free Picture Book Pitching Masterclass â 17 November, 1pm UK time
- Bologna Childrenâs Book Fair
Byeeee for now!
x The Good Ship Illustration (Helen, Katie & Tania)
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Picturing Books: Pitching, Processes & Bologna Banter
The Good Ship Illustration Podcast â 7th November 2025
[00:00:00]
Helen: So, exciting news, everyone! Well, we thought it was exciting until about a minute ago. We thought weâd booked a stand at Bologna, but it turns out none of us actually have yet. Weâve just talked about it so much we convinced ourselves it was done.
Katie: Hopefully itâs happening in real time now, which is even more exciting!
Tania: If you havenât heard of Bologna, itâs a huge international childrenâs book fair, like the Frankfurt Book Fair but for picture books. Everyone goes to buy and sell co-editions.
Helen: Yes, if you have a book commissioned, your publisher takes it to Bologna to sell rights to publishers in other countries. Itâs also a massive hub for illustrators: socialising, eating pizza, and taking their portfolios around.
Katie: There are workshops, exhibitions, and the Bologna Illustrators Exhibition too. How many Good Shippers were in that last time?
Tania: I think six were runners-up, and one, Lisa Lofreddo, actually got in! That was very exciting. We went and found her work and took photos.
Helen: The deadline to enter this year is the 7th of November, so if youâre listening on release day, quick! Grab something and send it in!
[00:02:00]
Katie: Also today, the 7th of November, weâre starting something special. If you join the Picture Book Course, youâll get real snail mail, an actual sticker pack in the post!
Tania: Not a real snail. Just stickers.
Katie: And weâve got our Picture Book Pitching Masterclass coming up too, a free session for anyone, not just course students. Itâs on the 17th of November at 1 pm UK time with me and Jane Porter. Between us, weâve had about 70 picture books published.
Helen: You two have pitched a lot of books.
Katie: Weâll cover how to get your idea in front of the right people and how to actually start.
[00:03:00]
Helen: People always ask me how to pitch, and my answer has always been: just send it! Send it to as many publishers as you like, all at once, and ignore the supposed rules.
But I started wondering if my advice was out of date. My first book came out in 1998, and I usually pitch by chatting to publishers, showing sketchbook ideas over a meeting or Zoom, and seeing what sparks.
So Iâve been interviewing other illustrators to check, and so far everyone says the same: just get your work seen. Post samples, email them, send things in the post. Your ideas donât need to be finished; rough sketches are fine.
Katie: So thereâs no secret formula?
Helen: None! You donât need a perfectly worded letter or to send one publisher at a time. Some publishers only open samples every few months, so you could wait forever. Send them all at once, and donât take it personally if they donât reply.
They might love your work but have just published a similar story. Try again next year.
[00:04:30]
Katie: And there is a masterclass coming up. (How are we saying that today, âmasterâ or âmahsterâ?)
Tania: Depends where youâre from!
Helen: Itâs because Iâm slightly Geordie, we say âplasterâ and âmasterâ with a flat A. Iâm halfway between Yorkshire and Newcastle, so Iâm a hybrid.
Katie: Between the three of us weâve got three different accents, all in one masterclass!
Tania: The class and the accent lesson.
[00:06:00]
Katie: So, back to pitching, thereâs loads more in the masterclass. Jane and I spent two hours in a cafĂŠ brainstorming all the most useful parts of the process. Weâve made a slideshow and weâre ready to go.
Helen: Itâs free too, right?
Katie: Yes, because pitching often feels like voodoo. People say âjust get a meeting with a publisherâ, which feels as impossible as saying âjust get a million poundsâ. But itâs not impossible if you start putting yourself out there.
When I interviewed art directors and editors for the Picture Book Course, they all said the same: theyâre looking on Instagram. So post your work, then make sure youâve got a clear portfolio on your website for them to click through to.
[00:07:00]
Tania: Also look at groups like SCBWI, the Society of Childrenâs Book Writers and Illustrators. They run brilliant workshops and invite publishers, so you can meet people face-to-face.
Once youâve met someone and theyâve seen your work, theyâre more likely to remember you when you follow up later. All those little touchpoints, Instagram, competitions, exhibitions, help you stay on their radar.
Helen: Exactly. Youâve got to be in it! Donât be shy, just do it.
[00:08:00]
Katie: Someone in the Picture Book Course said this week that they find it excruciating to send work to publishers, like actual tears-level fear.
Helen: Oh, thatâs so common. We used to call it âpants-down timeâ when your work gets published, that vulnerable feeling when everyone can see it.
The only way through is practice. Do it ten times and it stops feeling scary.
Tania: Itâs like desensitising yourself. When we started The Good Ship, we hated hearing our voices or seeing ourselves on camera. Now we donât even think about it.
Katie: You just have to do it anyway. Your work is enough.
Helen: And whatâs the worst that can happen? They donât reply? Fine! Most people who donât like something wonât say so, theyâll just move on.
Tania: Exactly. And what other people think of you is none of your business.
Katie: Love that phrase.
Helen: Keeps you sane!
Tania: Everyoneâs got opinions, and some of them stink.
Helen: Like armpits. Or worse.
Katie: The key is: youâll never know what anyone thinks, and it doesnât matter.
Helen: Exactly. Youâll be dead soon, so crack on!
[00:10:30]
Tania: Even if you did everything perfectly, the right email, the perfect pitch, someone would still not like it.
Helen: Iâve seen amazing work rejected by art directors, and you think, how?! But maybe itâs not to their taste, or theyâve done something similar, or theyâre just in a bad mood.
Katie: Like those studies showing judges are harsher before lunch. Maybe your art director was just hungry!
Helen: Exactly. And if you want to be an illustrator, just get on with it. No one can stop you except yourself.
[00:11:30]
Tania: People also worry about publishers stealing their ideas. But if you donât send your idea, it definitely wonât happen.
Helen: And publishers are not going to make their lives harder by copying you, they want you, the person with the original spark.
Katie: Thereâs also this myth that if youâre talented enough, someone will magically find you from your living room. Thatâs not how it works.
Helen: I used to believe that after art school, that if I just drew quietly, someone would discover me. Nope. You have to market yourself.
Tania: Nobodyâs floating through your studio window at night to find you!
[00:13:00]
Katie: Back to Bologna, Iâm most excited about Taniaâs gorgeous graphics being blown up huge for our stand.
Tania: Yes! And freebies, maybe sweets from my brother-in-lawâs sweet shop? âGood Ship rockâ, literally!
Helen: Weâre also thinking of doing pop-up workshops or talks, and recording podcasts there too. If youâre going, come and say hello.
Katie: And if youâve got ideas for what we could do at the stand, tell us.
Helen: Last time we met everyone in what turned out to be a smelly ditch between halls. This year we have an actual stand!
Tania: Weâve graduated from the sewer to a real booth!
Katie: If anyone knows a good tote bag company, please get in touch. We want to make Good Ship bags, badges, and of course, stickers.
[00:15:00]
Helen: And dinners! Lovely Italian dinners with everyone.
Tania: If youâve ever thought about going to Bologna, do it. Itâs exhausting but completely inspiring.
Katie: Itâs like a huge global gallery, the best figurative and narrative illustration from around the world.
Helen: Yes! Youâll see work from Chile, Argentina, Portugal, Korea. Itâs breathtaking. I used to be told my work was âtoo sophisticatedâ, then I went to Bologna and realised, no, it fits perfectly somewhere in the world.
Tania: When you see the variety, you realise thereâs space for everyone.
[00:16:30]
Helen: Maybe we should have a âGone Fishingâ sign for when we go wandering around the fair.
Katie: And a little psychiatrist-style booth where people can come and ask us questions!
Tania: Yes! Two-minute creative therapy sessions.
Helen: Perfect.
Katie: See you in Bologna, or next week on the podcast. Bye!
All: Byeeee!