JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
First Round CFP Predictions and NFL Bonanza
Emotions run high as college football gears up for exhilarating bowl games and pivotal NFL matchups. The podcast explores predictions while discussing rivalries, team strategies, the impact of weather, and insightful player performances leading up to the games.
• Anticipating the chaos in upcoming bowl games
• Evaluating the significance of key rivalries
• Analyzing team matchups, particularly Indiana vs. Notre Dame
• Dissecting the ramifications of weather on gameplay
• Exploring the playoff landscape through NFL matchups
• Wrestling with the emotional implications of being a fan
• Engaging listeners through predictions and discussion on social media
welcome back to the JB's Sports podcast. Today is friday, december the 20th.
Jo:We are back for the podcast we back, jace is back, I'm back, we're both back. Got the college ball playoff games that are starting literally tonight, in literally 40 minutes, so we had to make sure we get that in before that game starts. We make sure we're not cheating and watching the game and then making our predictions. Got the games tomorrow, both NFL and college. Tomorrow really does have an opportunity to really ruin my week, my day, my month, because both the Steelers play tomorrow and then it really rolls right into the Buckeyes.
Jace:Who do the Steelers play?
Jo:tomorrow the Ravens Try to wrap up the division. Would that make you undefeated in the division?
Jace:You wouldn't be undefeated because we lost to the fucking Browns. You lost to famous Jameis.
Jo:Yeah.
Jace:That's crazy.
Jo:It was a snow globe game.
Jace:Whatever you want to say there's a chance you lose to the Bengals, week 17.
Jo:Yeah, I know We'll be there to see it. We will be there to see it.
Jace:Ain't that funny. That's crazy Damn.
Jo:I know I have to go back to Pittsburgh, I know, but we're going. It'll be fun, but yeah.
Jace:No, you've never been to Pittsburgh.
Jo:No, I haven't. You don not been there and you have. For sure, I get it, I do, but it'll be an adventure, um, hopefully a good one again. That game still hasn't been locked down into what time it is, so we'll have to figure that out, dude, if it's but it's not gonna be the monday game. That's already been. That's already been flexed out to a different game, so don't worry about that, uh is it? Thursday game.
Jo:It wouldn't be thursday those are set the thursday game wouldn't be because the steelers already play three games in 10 days, so they're not going to make it any worse. So it's going to be sometime on that Sunday. It's going to be the 4 o'clock game.
Jace:Potentially the 425, yeah. Because if it's the 425, we're fucking cut how we're going to get to Pittsburgh at like 3.30.
Jo:Why wouldn't we just get there a little bit earlier so we don't worry about all the traffic?
Jace:Because I don't want to be in that city longer than I have to. I have a disdain for that city. It sucks, I know, but it smells like piss. The whole city smells like piss Do you think there's a.
Jo:We are in a coal.
Jace:It is a large fucking coal mine, and it all smells like piss.
Jo:Look, I haven't been there so I can't confirm nor deny what you're saying. I don't know. I'm trying to keep an open mind about it all and I'm excited about the journey.
Jace:No, I'm excited about the football game, but I'm not excited about the fact that the stadium smells like piss.
Jo:I think most stadiums will probably smell like that.
Jace:No.
Jo:Maybe not the Chargers, because it's like two years old.
Jace:The whole city, or the Raiders, smells like a homeless crackhead man's piss. San Fran probably smells like that. So does Pittsburgh With their stagnant ass lake, the river. I don't know where the fuck the river's coming from.
Jo:You're surrounded by mountains on every side, because they're in a fucking crater. I think there's a couple different rivers that all converge right there. I don't know how there's mountains on every side, because they're in a fucking crater. I think there's a couple different rivers that all converge right there. I don't know how there's mountains on every side.
Jace:You have to go through a mountain to get into Pittsburgh and then you look all the way around you, there's no open land, you are in a fucking crater and the crater smells like piss.
Jo:We're going to get off of that Back to tomorrow, potentially being a terrible day for me. Pittsburgh at four, ohio State at eight. It could be really an awful day for me. I'm gonna bet against Ohio State. I hope you don't. I hope you can just be nice to me one time.
Jace:Fuck you.
Jo:Alright, so yeah, bunch of things to talk about. Let's go ahead and get into it without sparing too much more time. I don't think sparing wasting more time. Sparing would mean that we're going faster. All righty, then. So let's go ahead and start with start doing what we got to do. We're done talking about pittsburgh smelling how that smells it smells like piss dude.
Jace:I don't care what anybody says. All the the other three people I went to pittsburgh with all said they hated pittsburgh, and one of those people have been to Detroit.
Jo:But I think he was at Detroit before it was really bad. No, he was there recently, oh yeah you're right, I forget.
Jace:And Pittsburgh still smelled like piss.
Jo:Detroit's a low bar.
Jace:Pittsburgh must be lower. And I don't even just because I hate the Steelers. I hate fucking Pittsburgh. Who the fuck is like? I want to go live in Pittsburgh.
Jo:A lot of people do. I'm not one of them. Obviously it's not as bad as Cleveland.
Jace:Fuck Cleveland. Cleveland's terrible, but Cleveland didn't smell like piss. Yes, it did. I don't remember, I was young.
Jo:I've been there multiple times. It does not smell great there either.
Jace:Pittsburgh's the same thing, and you'll get black lung on the way out cause it's a fucking coal mine. It's a big ass coal mine alright that smells like piss. Why does it smell like piss? No, I need it to be known. I need a fucking respirator for a walk in that city.
Jo:You're not going to get that, so who does it live with it? The college football playoff game starts tonight.
Jace:Fuck you.
Jo:Indiana is going to Indiana. It's the battle for Indiana. Indiana is going to Notre Dame Playing that game. Notre Dame is a seven point favorite in this game.
Jace:I don't know how they can't score they can.
Jo:But the thing is that my problem with them is that they really have played nobody. I think both of these teams suffer from the same issues. I think Indiana, even though they're in the Big Ten, literally played nobody all year except for Ohio State, and then Notre Dame played nobody on their schedule and they lost to NIU. So I just think both of these teams kind of suffer from the same issues. So I'm not sitting here so honestly going into this game not to kind of give you my. I already bet that Indiana would finish the game within the seven points. I think Jace has too. I think Indiana could truly win this game, not just keep it closed.
Jace:I think Indiana can win this game because Notre Dame can't score. That is like their biggest problem. Their whole thing is run game and it's fucking snowing there. How are you going to run in snow?
Jo:Well, they make it happen, yeah they can make it happen.
Jace:But again, when you get behind, notre Dame is going to get behind.
Jo:Is it still snowing? I don't think it's still snowing right now. It is still snowing, is it Just checked.
Jace:I saved it since.
Jo:I bet on that game.
Jace:Yes, it's currently snowing.
Jo:Okay, well, that makes it a little bit more difficult, doesn't it? I don't know? Doesn't it I don't know? It's real feels 28 degrees, so it's not necessarily sitting there freezing. It's probably if you had to say real feel it's probably under 20 degrees uh, got some snow. It's not gonna be a ton of snow, it's not gonna be like a snow globe game type of thing or anything. But the way I see it, I don't know. I think indiana can win this game. I thought, if we're gonna pick because obviously we picked all these games I think Indiana's going to win, because I think Notre Dame hasn't played anybody all year and I think Indiana even with the issues that they had.
Jo:Because everybody's comparing Notre Dame to Ohio State, because they say Notre Dame and Ohio State are kind of the same caliber when it comes to what their teams are. First problem I have with that is that no, they're not. Ohio State's clearly better than Notre Dame in pretty much every single, every single facet of their game. Notre Dame's secondary is pretty good, but I'm saying there's such a drastic difference between Ohio State and Notre Dame. Everywhere else it doesn't even matter, because even with as good as Notre Dame secondary is, do they have a Caleb Downs back there at safety? No, they don't. I get it. The group is really good, but I just think that I just think it's not necessarily a great comparison to make, and a lot of problems that Indiana had against Ohio State was that Ohio State was blitzing Indiana like crazy and their offense couldn't respond to that. Does Notre Dame have the people to be able to create that same amount of pressure and chaos with the for their quarterback, curtis Rourke? I don't think they do and I think with Notre Dame's offense, they I, if you if Indiana can make any headway of limiting Notre Dame from being able to run the football and making them have to pass, I don't trust their quarterback to be able to pass the pass to win the football game for them, and I just I think Indiana can do enough of everything to potentially keep this game close, if not all the way win.
Jo:So I'm going to pick Indiana to win the game, because we can't go through all these games and all the favorites win. Somebody's going to get upset and I think this one is primed for the upset. So I'm going to go ahead and take Indiana, not to mention it's Indiana, like both these teams are Indiana. You know all those fans for Indiana is going to come into that because they're like they have no, they're happy to be here. They don't have an expectation of them, like being in the next round or anything. So they're going to show up to Notre Dame like crazy and they're going to cause a ruckus. So I think they're going to make this a hostile not necessarily hostile, because I think there's still going to be more Notre Dame fans than Indiana fans in that home stadium but I think Indiana fans will show up enough in droves to make it a little bit better for the Indiana team and so they can potentially pull off the upset. So I'm taking Indiana in that game, you, you as well, yes, you stupid fuck, stupid fucking question.
Jo:Oh yeah, I know, I'm just making sure, Just making sure we get it on record. Next game We'll start with the first game tomorrow. They'll be on at noon. Penn State SMU Give me SMU. Oh, it's that simple, huh no?
Jace:give me Penn State. Smu's gonna get fucking demolished. But this is a game.
Jo:Penn State loses it's 26 26 degrees tomorrow, so nice and cold. Right at noon it'd probably be a little warmer than what it would be if it was a night game. Obviously that's what ohio has to deal with, I think I just think smu as much as I would love to see smu upset into penn state because I really would as much as everybody talks about how, how state will will drown in chaos if we lose this game against Tennessee. I think Penn State might be worse if they manage to lose this game, because everybody and their mama believes that Penn State has the easiest path through the playoff to potentially go win a national championship. And heck, when this whole playoff became a 12-team playoff, everybody looked at what team gets the most out of it being a 12-team playoff. Everybody brings up Penn State every time because Penn State's right there in the thick of it every time. And now they don't necessarily have to beat Ohio State and Michigan to kind of go and potentially win a national championship. So the path opens up for them nice and easy. They lose to Oregon but then get an easier path than what Oregon is getting so like.
Jo:Everything is kind of played out in Penn State's favor if they lose this game against SMU. James Franklin might be actually be fired, because if they can't be SMU, then what's? What is the issue like? How were they going to get better from this? And I think it's kind of another big game that that, uh, james Franklin't win. So I'm going to pick Penn State to win. Penn State is the better team from top to bottom. Again, my heart is with SMU to go ahead and win this game, because nothing would make me feel happier. But I'm going to go with my brain here and say that Penn State probably wins this game, and Jay has already said Penn State wins as well. And here's my other issue. I think the weather really could affect SMU.
Jace:Southern Mississippi State. Southern Mississippi University.
Jo:They're in Texas. Oh, they're cooked Deep in the heart of Texas. Smu Yep, what's that stand for? Southern Methodist, I think.
Jace:University, I think that's what it is. There's a Southern Mississippi. I'm stupid. I think that's what it is. There's a Southern Mississippi. I'm stupid. Golden Eagles is what they're called.
Jo:Oh yeah, yeah. I remember that for college football.
Jace:So yeah, so that's, that's exactly why I fucking remember that they're part of the Sun Belt. That's crazy, yeah, but yeah.
Jo:So like they're from the heart of Texas, so I think the weather is going to affect them and everybody says it's going to affect Tennessee, but I think in a certain like Tennessee they deal with cold. Tennessee gets cold weather. If it was a bunch of snow I think it would be totally different, but they deal with cold weather still.
Jace:Yes. Even though they've been practicing all week indoors.
Jo:How stupid is that If you're in Tennessee, they've been been practicing all week indoors.
Jace:They understand the only teams they can play are cold weather teams, right?
Jo:yeah, they're playing a cold weather team, yeah and then if you you're not acclimating yourself at all to the cold weather, because again nobody has had to deal with weather like this, because costwell has never been this far into december, that we've never been playing games this late outside in these potential cold weather cities, because by now a lot of teams are playing bowl games that are always in nice places that have very nice weather at this time of year. So I think everybody has to deal with a little bit of acclimation process. I think Ryan Day in Ohio State have been making good by doing everything outside, practicing out there, make sure everybody's ready to go by the time the game starts. Tennessee has not, and I think SMU to a certain extent. They don't have an option Like. They're still in Tennessee, texas all week, so they're sitting there like okay, well, they can only deal with what they have to deal with. They can't make a snowy climate and cold for is a throw the ball like they're. They are a fast throw the football around, make a big place type of team and if they're not gonna be used to this weather and there's gonna be a little bit of a, even if they do get used to it, by halftime I think they already might be in a hole they can't get out of against Penn State, which is how I think this game might go. You know, what's funny is that game the last thing before we go on to the next thing.
Jo:Apparently, some of these Penn State tickets they're selling for like 30 bucks Because a lot of people aren't caring about this game, because they're waiting to go to the next game that's going to be in a nice place and all that. So the tickets are going down like crazy, which I guess in one hand you can say, oh now, families that don't have the crazy amount of money can actually go. But are they? It's not sold out. Heck, the Texas one they're not sold out either, and they're a game against Clemson. So, like they're in Ohio State, tennessee has been sold out. Everything that's selling now is on the secondary market and obviously everybody's making a big deal about those, but like there's some some it's a really big deal with, like you have games literally five days before christmas. So you're making a lot of people make decisions as to whether they're going to pay out a bunch of money to go to games now or wait and save their money and go to the. You know, the nice, the nice spot, the game that's going to be in a nice place when it comes to, like bowl game, uh, destination. So I think it's a little bit of something, a storyline to talk about. But yeah, we will take Penn State to win that game, even though I'd love to see them lose to SMU. I'm just writing it down to make sure. Next game this is going to be the four o'clock game tomorrow it's going to be the Clemson at Texas. Texas is a 12 point favorite in this game, this game, this game. Do you know what I think happens in this game? I don't think Clemson wins this game. I don't.
Jo:I think Clemson, with the best teams they faced this year. They faced Georgia and got totally clobbered. At the beginning of the year they faced Louisville and got up and down the field. Louisville ran, louisville ran up and down the field on them. The game wasn't close. And then the third game, I believe, was South Carolina that they lost to and it was a bad game. It was a close game but South Carolina managed to win that one. So you got three games right there and I think that was the best competition they played all year.
Jo:But every other game they were playing teams that were not of their level. And they did and they clobbered all of them and you're playing a texas team. That I think texas has a very good defense. I think their defense is probably unlike. People don't talk about texas defense being very good. I'm not saying they're the best in the country or anything, but they are a very, very, very, very good defense and I think Clemson is going to have a big problem with that.
Jo:I think Texas is going to be able to get a lot of pressure on Cade Klubnick in that Clemson offense and as much as I think Ryan Wingo, the young receiver that Clemson has, that's like the only guy that is like really dangerous for them, like do they have anybody else?
Jo:They're running backs aren't necessarily like breakaway speed, like to kill you type of thing. It's to the point now where, like in the latest games, kate Klubnick was more of the running threat than their actual running backs were. So, as much as I don't, I think Texas's offense has been awful. Quinn Ewers has not been Quinn Ewers practically all season, like as much as you talked about him before, when he first, like, came to Ohio state and then before he got to Texas, he was rifling footballs everywhere, a lot of games that I've seen him play. When's the last time you've seen him throw rock at a ball? We were talking about him having a very special arm talent where the ball was rifling off his hand. Every time I don't see those throws. That oblique injury that he had probably is a bigger deal than what everybody would like to think it is.
Jace:What is a bigger deal than?
Jo:what everybody would like to think it is. It's an oblique. I think it's a core injury, okay, and if you have to, because obviously you have torque right when you're creating torque- with your body when you're throwing, that's going to hurt.
Jo:And if you're not totally healthy and he's been kind of thugging it out for this year and not been healthy this whole time I can understand why he's potentially not doing the same thing. Understand why he's potentially not doing the same thing, not to mention he's not moving around like as well as he did like if I think about the michigan game when he was still very healthy, he was able to scamp around, move, extend plays and then get the ball out. That was when he was probably at his best. But he hasn't been that pretty much ever since then. So I think I would like to.
Jo:If I, when I bet this game, I'm gonna bet clemson plus the points. That's way too many points. 12 points is crazy. Okay, I think Clemson keeps it within that, because I don't believe in Texas' offense to really put their foot on Clemson's throat and really just take over. I don't believe that, especially with their offense. So I'm kind of on the fence on this. By saying Clemson covers Texas wins Pretty much. By saying Jon covers Texas wins pretty much. By saying Jace by the way, anybody that didn't know Jace now 21, he can make bets now. So he's kind of now just finally dipping his toe into the betting world when it comes to betting on sports, so I'm kind of trying to get him used to all the lingo and stuff like that. So I think Clemson covers by the 12 points, but I do think Texas wins the game.
Jace:What.
Jo:Do you think Texas or Clemson is going to win this game?
Jace:I don't know shit about any of these teams.
Jo:Flip a coin for me, I just put money on whatever you tell me to. Not talking about the betting right now. Not talking about the betting.
Jace:Doesn't change. I don't understand shit about college football.
Jo:I don't know who's good, who's bad. Okay, blind bet All right blind guess. Blind guess, no money involved. We'll talk about the betting tomorrow, or it's later tonight, whatever I don't fucking know, I don't remember who the teams are. Clemson and Texas.
Jace:I got nothing for you.
Jo:Yeah, but you're so ready To bet against Ohio State For the next game?
Jace:Yeah, fuck you guys, you're gonna lose. To Fuck you, blaine, I don't give a shit.
Jo:Tennessee.
Jace:This whole segment's A fucking miss for me. Bro, I know you don't give a shit, tennessee.
Jo:This whole segment is a fucking miss for me. Bro, I know you don't care about college football.
Jace:I have no reason to care about college football.
Jo:Unless you want to screw me, okay Say, screw me and my Ohio State team. Okay, I'll put you down for 10.
Jace:Nigga, my team is under 500. What the fuck do I have a reason to care about college football, for I get it.
Jo:I football for I get it that motherfucker.
Jace:Aiden Childs is dick. Get him the fuck out of here.
Jo:I understand.
Jace:He throws interceptions and goes oh, that was your fault.
Jo:I think he'll be better next year, I think he threw 19 interceptions to his 11 touchdowns.
Jace:Oh, my bad. And his seven fucking fumbles.
Jo:Okay, I get it. I do think he'll be better next year. Bo had 26 turnovers 26?. I think next year He'll come back and be a top Half Of the Big Ten quarterback. At least that's a low fucking bar.
Jace:Man a lot of good quarterbacks In Over here. I can't even name Five of them, motherfuckers. Name five quarterbacks Right now in the Big Ten In the Big.
Jo:Ten, big Ten. Five starters Cons Big Ten.
Jace:Big Ten. Five starters Consistent Curtis Rourke for Indiana, that's not a real nigga? Yes, it is, that's fake. No, it's not, that's fake, that's fake.
Jo:Who the fuck is Curtis Rourke? Curtis Rourke.
Jace:Is there starting.
Jo:I mentioned him already when we yes, he's been starting with them all year.
Jace:I don't know who the fuck that is.
Jo:Again, you're asking the guy that I'm into college football, so I know these things Okay.
Jace:Go ahead.
Jo:Aiden Childs. You're trying to say other than Aiden Childs. Okay, yes. Will Howard, that's two.
Jace:That's only one I knew. Just Just Get that out there. That's the only one I knew.
Jo:You have Dylan Gabriel For Oregon. You have Dylan Gabriel for Oregon. Oh sorry, I was waiting for you to give me a head nod or something.
Jace:I don't know who the fuck that is.
Jo:Drew Aller, Penn State.
Jace:That's not real. Whatever, yes, whatever.
Jo:I can name his backup. I talked about his backup transferring and not being in the playoff. That's four we got. Who's the other one? I know I can. Oh, no, no, no, no. This is not a good time to start forgetting.
Jace:Whatever, two of them niggas ain't actually real.
Jo:Tyler Van Dyke. He was a starter for Wisconsin this past year he was, he was Other than injury he was.
Jace:How long was he injured?
Jo:Like the last four or five games.
Jace:His last name's Dyke.
Jo:I don't like quarterback.
Jace:Whatever dude, three of them niggas ain't real, that's five. Yes, they are. Three of them niggas ain't real. No, they're not. Yes, they are. No, they're not, that's five.
Jo:Whatever. And then, well, aiden Johnson has to count.
Jace:right, I'm counting half of the Big Ten no.
Jo:Okay, so not.
Jace:He had less touchdowns than our fucking, than our receiver. He had less touchdowns than a receiver. Hold on A receiver that had five rushing touchdowns Okay.
Jo:Okay, I get it. He was bad this year, I do.
Jace:Bad's a fucking understatement. 11 for 19. My bad. 11 for 26.
Jo:I don't know, I don't know. Oh no, I don't know, rutgers quarterback.
Jace:Dylan Riola.
Jo:Well, I was going to get to Riola, I was going to get to the only other Big Ten quarterback I know. So yeah, Riola, I was going to get to him. I have Warren Thin. You took that at six. You said how many. You have to do half of them.
Jace:What is it?
Jo:18 teams in the Big Ten now? I don't know. I thought there was 10. No, it's 18. Didn't know there wasn't 10 until like three years ago. Oh, purdue was what's his face, what's his face, what's his face.
Jace:I don't remember, joe, this game's stupid. I can't prove or disprove you because I don't know.
Jo:You're right, you're right, I don't fucking know. Alright, then let's get off of that and let's go to the last College football playoff game and then we can go on To the NFL stuff we know a lot more about how, about that, whatever?
Jace:That sound like a fun time.
Jo:Okay, Tennessee at Ohio State. Ohio State's a seven point Favorite in this game. Ohio State's at home In the shoe. It's going to be tomorrow night it's going to be 20-something degrees, it's going to feel like 16. It's going to be nice and cold. Like I said, Ohio State has been at least practicing outside all week to get acclimated. Tennessee has not. They've been indoors, have a nice little air-conditioned. But I do think to a certain degree Tennessee's offense is boomer. They're very boom football 40 yards down the field or they're running the football.
Jace:Can I say one thing? Oh boy, you only have a stadium advantage because there's no old people, it's too cold and it's too late. Your stadium has a lot of old fans, like Alabama.
Jo:True.
Jace:They take up basically those front five rows.
Jo:Oh yeah, because the alumni base is so big and your stadium's almost quiet.
Jace:I've been in that stadium. It was quiet when I was there.
Jo:Well, we were. Okay, that's a little different. We were playing nobodies.
Jace:Have you heard other teams playing anybody?
Jo:Well, no, because I went to an Iowa game, an Ohio State-Iowa, and it was huge, it was crazy.
Jace:Again, but you're nowhere near as loud as other stadiums Are. Other stadiums as good as you.
Jo:I think it's more because of how they're built, not necessarily.
Jace:Oh, so you were as loud as Oregon. No but Oregon has a lot less fans.
Jo:They built that place to be loud.
Jace:Are you as loud as Texas? I think out of the best teams in the In college football. You have the quiet stadium.
Jo:I'm not going to get into this with you, because I can't necessarily prove or disprove you.
Jace:Yes.
Jo:I do think it is an issue that sometimes Ohio State fans are Not necessarily trying to be there as loud as they possibly can. Heck when Ohio State Puts out the PSA For the game. They want to say be respectful and all that, and I'm like I don't need that, I need you to be round and crazy and that's what I want. I again, I don't need, you don't need to be out there fighting. You can say don't go out there and be fighting and at the same time not say be as nice as you possibly can, be great fans and bring a great atmosphere. You could. I think there's a line. You can probably. You can probably go go down and make sure you don't do either one of those things, but that's not the way they're deciding. Do I get it? It's a university thing.
Jace:That's stupid.
Jo:I know. Go out there and be loud. Don't go ahead and fight each other Because obviously Tennessee fans are going to be buying up a lot of tickets. It's a very close drive. It's about six hours, five, six hour drive. So I'm like, to a certain extent their fans are going to be able to come to the game. And it was a whole thing with ticket buying that it was. There was a leaked code or something like that to buy the tickets early. Tennessee fans got it and they started buying tickets.
Jo:Ohio State did kind of annex that from happening. So who knows, I think from what I've been reading, it's like Ohio State's probably gonna be 70 30 potentially when it comes to percentages for the tickets in that stadium and even with even with that, it usually is even that much when it comes when other teams come to our stadium. So I think there's gonna be a plenty of Tennessee fans out there. I don't think they're gonna take over the shoe or anything, but they're gonna be well known, you're gonna see them, you're see the orange, they're going to be there.
Jo:So the way I believe, and to actually get to the game part, see you being an outside influence and hopefully, try not to be a try not to be a uh, what is it? Try not to be a troll on this one. Um, because you're not in it, obviously, because my heart's in it. I'm talking to other people that are high state fans all the time that because my heart's in it. I'm talking to other people that are high state fans all the time that believe such and such things. But I'm gonna ask you this question because you honestly don't care at the end of the day, no, do you think? Do you think losing this game means ryan day's fired for sure?
Jace:yeah, oh, he's cooked. Okay, okay, whitton, okay. I'd say the odds right now are like 50-50, because there's no one better to hire than Ryan Day, unless you can go get Oregon's coach, which ain't going to happen. So the fact you don't have a better candidate is what's going to keep him there. I just think, if he loses this year first round to a team that you guys are definitely better than them.
Jo:Especially after losing to Michigan. Agreed Again.
Jace:Losing to Michigan again.
Jo:Yes, that game was totally on us. That was not Michigan winning that game. I completely agree. That was Ohio State choking him. That was the coaching staff choking him, not the players.
Jace:If he loses this one, I think they give him another year. Yeah, because they can't find better, not because they don't want to fire them. I think they're done with him. I think they're sitting back like, hey, he can't prove it in the biggest game. To Ohio State fans, that is the biggest game. You can go 0-11 as long as you beat Michigan at the end of the year. Who cares? Who cares?
Jo:Who cares? You could miss the playoffs. Who cares? I think Ohio State's past that I know, but I don't think all of Ohio State is. Oh yeah, of course not.
Jace:I think the 30% of people that are like you there's probably 30% of people are like you I want more, and it's people who are probably younger than the age of 30. More, and it's people who are probably younger than the age of 30.
Jo:Anybody over that?
Jace:30 mark, which is a lot of people. No, I need to beat Michigan.
Jo:That's true?
Jace:No, you're not, and I think to OSU as a whole. They gain more by the fact of hey, we have to beat Michigan. I know, I just see it, even as a player. You could fucking guys like Jack Sawyer. If you probably go out there, if you guys go out there and win the national championship, they'll probably sit back and look like, damn, I didn't get to beat Michigan once Because he's an Ohio boy, fuck the national championship. I didn't get to beat Michigan.
Jo:He's an Ohio boy, I know.
Jace:but even players that don't play for your school, even players that aren't from Ohio they graduate and sit back like I didn't get to beat Michigan.
Jo:I saw.
Jace:CJ Stroud say it in his own podcast I never got to beat Michigan.
Jo:Not a podcast.
Jace:He doesn't have a podcast, but it was him and Micah Parsons.
Jo:Yeah, but it was on something else. But yes, that is, he talked about it.
Jace:He was like I didn't get to beat.
Jo:Michigan.
Jace:Right Bengals TikTok. It was rivalry week. Joe Burrow word for word was like hopefully I can finally beat Michigan. Right Burrow never got to play it down as an Ohio State quarterback and he wants to beat Michigan but he's from Ohio so he probably hates them as much as anybody else he was indoctrinated into the rivalry Exactly. But this national championship could mean nothing to a lot of your players because we didn't beat Michigan.
Jo:I think national championships mean a lot of your players because we didn't beat Michigan. I think national championships mean a lot to the players. I don't care.
Jace:I agree Because, whether we like it or not, that's the ultimate goal, I agree, and that's their goal, but it's the fact of they're going to sit back like I never got to beat my biggest rival ever. I agree, you can go to a lot of them are going to go play in the NFL and you will never have as big Ohio State has Michigan. That is the biggest rival in all of sports. I agree. No one has ever contested that yeah.
Jo:Well, there's people that do contest it. But can they really? Yeah, some people like to say that, like Auburn Alabama, they'll kill each other.
Jace:I didn't know those two were fucking rivals. Yeah, they are. Didn't know that. You know why? I don't give a fuck. Do you know why? Because on ESPN, on fucking game day, they're in Ohio or they're in Michigan. This is the game of the week. Yeah, because it always is. You both could suck. Now you're making the playoffs. Now you're gonna win shit.
Jo:You guys could go under 500 this is the game of the week. I, just the way I see it with this game is, I think if we, if I, was to get destroyed by Tennessee I think he's gone, I think there's nothing you can say, but I think by more than a touchdown, he's cooked.
Jace:I think he's gone. I think there's nothing you can say, but I think If he loses, by more than a touchdown he's cooked.
Jo:I think my issue with it is that it's so much different now than what it used to be. Players aren't locked in as soon as Reiner gets fired. Every player that's on your roster has an opportunity to go, and there's a lot of teams that are come calling. We did that to Bama when Nick Sab been retired, like a lot of teams get that done, so like here's my thing. I think that if Ohio State makes that change, they need to have somebody at the ready that's ready to go. I think it has to be a Mike Frabel, it has to be a Dan Lanning. You better have gotten some back channels and gotten him to say yes to come to Ohio State, which I doubt would happen. But when it comes to cost, of all head coaches there's, there's only a few people that you know for sure would be better than Ryan Day, and I think they're already at places that are probably just as good, if not, for them, better than Ohio State. Because I think Ohio State's a weird job to have Because of the expectations, because of where you're at and with the fan base. I think there's a fan base second to none when it comes to they care when it's heated up. The temperature is at an all-time high on Ryan Day right now In a way that I think I think somebody mentioned this on a podcast I heard is that to be an Ohio State head coach, you have to be a little bit insane To a certain degree, and I think Ryan Day is as close to a normal person as we probably have ever had.
Jo:Urban Meyer was a crazy person. Jim Trussell when people talk about Jim Trussell, he was crazy. But they said he was crazy because he was unnaturally calm. He could have the worst game plan of all time. He'd come and he'd look at you and say you probably didn't have a better plan than that and they were like why they're like? Why are you so calm right now? It's like he was like a deranged person, that way that he would never actually show any type of emotion. And I think I think Ryan day is normal and I think Ryan day is like a more close to not like normal human being and I think all of this affects him a lot more. And I think and this is my only thing when it comes to Ryan day is that horrible had seven years before he beat Ohio state. They gave him seven years. Again, the fan base got hot about it but he finally did it and I think when he was against Urban the teams weren't close to being as good and the last few years there were times where he was close but not quite there and then he finally flipped it. Again. They had to cheat to do it but he flipped it and obviously he had Ryan Day. He didn't even beat Urban Meyer. So I think Ryan Day and I get it's been six years, but it's a lot of sample size.
Jo:So there's a lot of people that are ready to go and I've already made the statement is that if, if it goes the wrong way and people want to fire Ryan Day, I'm not going to sit here and cry for him. I'm not, because it's a big boy job. You understand what you're getting yourself into and if we have somebody at the ready, you better be ready to go and go ahead and do what you have to do. But I just think, with all the players that we have, that I know that I like, because I'm sitting here helping pay, because I pay a monthly thing for the NIL stuff I would like to see some of those players stick around and I don't think any of them do.
Jo:If Ryan Day gets fired and I think that's a bigger thing I know a lot of fans would be like screw that, who cares?
Jo:They didn't beat Michigan. But I think players it matter more than anything in college football. And if you're not going to be able to keep them, we're going to be looking at two or three years of a rebuild before we're back to what we probably should be, and I don't think fans give enough credit to that Because we're Ohio State. But I'm like it's a different time and I think it's going to be just as long to be able to get the back the roster that we have. When it comes to being as talented as we are and you need to have the talent if you're going to go, you know, achieve all the goals, which is beat Michigan, win the Big Ten, win a national title, like that those those are the three things that Ohio State wants to do. You're going to be many steps away from that if you fire Ryan Day and bring in a whole new coaching staff. That's all I have to say. That's it. So where I think.
Jace:So let's get to the game you sit in the same place the 49ers are. I see you closer to a rebuild than I see you do a championship potentially, I think.
Jo:The way I see this is that I think if ohio state beats tennis, if they get out of their own way and beat tennessee probably the way they should, they either can lose this game or they can go on a run and win the whole goddamn thing I agree that's why I think that whole michigan game is is as crazy to me as it possibly is, and when I look back on it.
Jo:So to the actual game. The offensive line is going to be shuffled around a little bit. They're going to have a new starter in at left guard, right guard it's going to be, uh, tegra shabola, and then, if not him, they'll bring in austin saraville behind him. I don't know will the offensive line be able to hold up against that. Tennessee defensive line is going to be the biggest issue. I think I don't think ryan day and chip kelly's going to fall for the same thing as to just keep running at the same good defensive line and just expect it to be a different outcome.
Jo:I think we're going to get the ball to everybody. I think Jeremiah Smith is going to get a ton of targets in this game. I think Carnell Tate and Emeka Igbuka is going to get a ton of targets in this game. We're going to use freaking tight ends and eat in the middle of the field, as bad as Georgia's offense has been all year. Carson Beck threw for over 300 yards against his Tennessee defense. So I think if you can, keep Will Howard upright and have him be able to throw. Give him time to throw the football, he will be able to make some good decisions and we'll have some open guys.
Jo:Because I don't think Tennessee's secondary is going to be able to hold up against our wide receivers and our tight ends that we have. Are they going to try to run the football? Yeah, I think Ohio State's going to have to try to be a little bit balanced, but I don't think we're going to keep running into a brick wall like we did against Michigan, because I think that's more of a mental thing than it is an actual like as long as we're not wearing the Michigan colors, I think Ohio State will treat teams like they probably should treat them, and I think Ryan Day and Chip Kelly I think our defense will be able to hold Tennessee for me able to run the football and keep them from being able to get any big plays on the field and keep Nico kind of in, keep him in a box, don't let him run outside the pocket a lot, and Nico's kind of struggling this year anyway, it's not like he's been amazing. So I think the Ohio State defense will be able to play very well and keep them in check.
Jo:I think the weather is going to help Ohio State for a little bit. I think Ohio State will be able to at least get through this game. Again we'll have to face Oregon in game two, but I think Ohio State will win this game and I think they'll cover the seven points. I think ohio state will exercise some demons and I think give me a little more confidence. I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little bit I'm without confidence, a bit my confidence is shot. But I think by the time game time is ready to go, I'll be ready to go and I think ohio state will win this game. I agree.
Jace:Are you picking osu too?
Jo:huh, okay and that's it. And I think, yeah, that's that's about it. That happened. I don't want to go too long about it because if no matter how that game goes, I'll be talking about it on tuesday when we podcast next. So it is what it is, so let's go ahead and go on to the next thing. Nfl oh, let me give a point for a hot point. Just because it's my team, I think ohio state wins 28 to 28, 13. Yeah, I like that. 28, 13. Ohio state wins all right.
Jo:Nfl thursday night football happened last night. La chargers, uh, denver broncos this was in LA. Chargers won the game 34-27. Jace made his official first second bet because he got an animated bet on the basketball game to get that. But official first football bet on last night and you lost by just a catch, just a catch. It was a four-leg parlay. You lost by one Ladd-McConkie catch. Insane way to lose a bet and I know that all too well. The first half Was an absolute. It almost felt like a dumpster fire Because it felt like the Broncos were really Running away with it. Chargers were able to kind of stay within, especially with that play at the end of the first half where you had the kickoff thing and they had a kickoff thing and then they had Dicker the kicker kick from like the 47-yard line.
Jace:It was a 63-yard kick, because it was kind of like a free kick is what it was called.
Jo:Yeah, it was a free kick.
Jace:So Eric Dicker kicked from the 63-yard line. He was the first person to do that since 1967.
Jo:Yeah.
Jace:And he's the only person to ever make it.
Jo:Yeah, it's insane Crazy rule. I didn't think something like that would ever happen, but it happened last night, so that kept it 21-13.
Jace:It kept my one touchdown and one field goal by both teams and both halves alive when he hit that kick and I was like, oh cool. And then boom.
Jo:Chargers hit another one and I'm like oh, they get a touchdown.
Jace:And then I'm sitting here looking at the Broncos like, oh my fucking God, score, score something, dude, and they just do nothing. They got a field goal, they didn't get a touchdown, that one hurt too. I would have got like three grand from that. Ooh yeah.
Jo:Big game hunting the first bet sound Around. That's crazy, yeah, but that one was like a $20 bet. Yeah, not wrong Free bets.
Jace:No, I was at a legit, just straight up $20 bet Because I was like I like those odds. I was like I like those odds. I was like a field goal and a touchdown. I was like that ain't hard.
Jo:I was like I'll shoot for that.
Jace:It never feels like it and the odds are so crazy.
Jo:Well, it wasn't.
Jace:Except the Broncos were like we're going to forget how to score. I'm right, the fuck now we're not going to run the ball, we're not going to throw the ball.
Jo:We're just going to the Chargers just kind of got things going. Gus Edwards had three touchdowns in this game 14 carries, 68 yards. He had one receiving touchdown, two rushing touchdowns. Lama Conkey still had a decent night six receptions, 87 yards, which he was seven. That's what we were both looking for last night. We both would have won bets if that happened. I just think that you know the Chargers did what they had to do in the moment and I think with that field goal right there at the end of the first half really gave them the opportunity to come back and win that game.
Jace:It was a surge. The whole stadium kind of lit up after that and you could just tell that the Chargers had taken all momentum. It was a good game.
Jo:It was a very good game and I think that when the Chargers play like this Herbert went 23-31, 284 yards, two touchdowns and a pick when they can make plays and get some plays down the field, I think that they can be a very feisty team in the playoffs and now they have a lot better chance to get into the playoffs. Now, with that win against the Broncos, I think the Broncos' chances went down with this loss. Obviously, I think that doesn't help you out, because don't you need the Broncos to pretty much lose the rest of their games?
Jace:Yeah, I need the Broncos to lose that one and the Chargers lost last week, so I need the Chargers to lose next week as well.
Jo:Dang, you need a lot of things to happen still, but dang.
Jo:You still have a shot. But yeah, I think the Broncos team is good. They're a good team. It played it. He had a 29 to 40, 263 yards and two touchdowns. It was just the two teams battled it out, even though it felt like a rock fight, even though the 34-27. There was plenty of scoring, but it felt like a rock fight in a certain extent with some of the offensive issues that did happen during this game and it just felt like just justin herbert was just superman out there. He kind of had his own little, his own little josh allen moments in this, in this game where he was just making some crazy plays out there and they won the game because of it. So all you can ask for right, that was a crap I, that was a crazy catch by palmer in the back of the end zone tapped it up to himself, up to himself and then pulled it in it.
Jo:Insane touchdown catch there. Crazier throw too, because there was two guys, it was pretty much all covered and he managed to throw that football right in a spot where he had an opportunity to do that for himself. It's crazy, but yeah, good game Charging one. I picked the Broncos to win that game, so that's a loss for me. I'm 0-1. Jason's still 0-0 on the rest of the slate for this week. Let's go ahead and go to the rest of the games, Make our picks and all of that. Tomorrow's games Start with Houston Kansas City. This game will be at 1 o'clock. This is in Kansas City. Give me Houston.
Jace:My home's hurt and suddenly not hurt.
Jo:He's playing. Give me Houston.
Jace:Mahomes is hurt and then suddenly not hurt. He's playing.
Jo:Yeah, give me Houston. That Houston defense is nasty. Right now, though, that defense is nasty, but I'm worried about CJ and that like is he going to be able to, you know, get away from that Kansas City defensive line, because they're going to petty off on him all game?
Jace:Give me Houston, okay, because they're going to petty off on him all game Give me Houston.
Jo:Okay, I think Jason's been waiting for Kansas City's downfall all year Because they're not that good you beat every team you play by three Mahomes, doesn't outplay anybody.
Jace:A lot of close games, man, but you get every call. Everything goes your way.
Jo:So this is my question for you do you think if they go through the rest of this year and still end up winning the super bowl, would this go down as the year is like? They just weren't that good, it's just nobody could beat them. Is that? Is that what you're gonna be? Or you're gonna have to, like, eat it at the end of the season and kind of give it up and say they won, even though it seemed impossible?
Jace:I hope to God to the first seed. I hope to God to the first seed so you can be the seventh seed. I hope to God the Bengals fucking win their wild or the seventh seed team. And I hope to God I get to watch Joe Burrow show them who the fuck's the best quarterback in the NFL this year, because it has been him all fucking year.
Jo:No, because Kansas City would get the first round by.
Jace:Mm-hmm, and then they would get the worst team after the wild card games.
Jo:Right, so you'd have to win a playoff game and then play Kansas City.
Jace:Ain't nothing Joe Burrowing done before when it comes to winning playoff games. I think Joe Burrowing has won the second most playoff games in the fucking NFC.
Jo:AFC.
Jace:Yeah, in the AFC, besides fucking Aaron Rodgers and Mahomes, joe Burrow's showing he can win these games. Joe Burrow's been the only one that's got to beat the Super Bowl. Joe Burrow's the only one that's got to get over the fucking hill.
Jo:I am worried about Houston. I'm worried about CJ Straub being got to get over the fucking hill. I am worried about Houston. I'm worried about CJ Stroud being able to get away from that pressure. So I'm going to take Kansas City to win the game. I'm going to root for Houston like crazy. I'll probably bet on Houston. I think Houston's only a three-and-a-half point underdog. Even Vegas believes that this game will be pretty close. But I just think Houston in the end it'll just be too much pressure on CJ Stroud and I think it'll be hard for them to win this game. But I'll take Kansas City on that.
Jo:Next game Saturday, another Saturday game. It's crazy to have playoff games and NFL games happening at the same time. It's crazy Pittsburgh-Baltimore, pittsburgh at Baltimore. Pittsburgh is going to be without oh, by the way, kansas city like you.
Jo:The whole thing with the injury. I think he he's still injured. I think that that ankle injury is still a thing, but I just think he's like he's. We have to win this game, so he's gonna go out there and play for it. Does this injury get any worse is probably the question. Again, when last time he got injured was in the playoffs and all that, and he managed to go out there injured and be able to sit there and keep playing well and nobody really made him pay for it. But you know it's something they're gonna have to keep monitoring. I thought they were gonna probably sick my homes for this game, but I think my homes and that kansas city chiefs team wants to get that first round by so bad so they can get that, uh, get the buy and then have the home field throughout the playoffs. So I don't know, pitts, baltimore, baltimore I mean Pittsburgh is going to be without no pickings.
Jace:Oh, baltimore.
Jo:And missing Elliott. Oh, our safety, our other safety, deshaun Elliott. So Nah, yeah, not looking great for us right here. Baltimore is shitty. I still think Pittsburgh can win this game Because I think the defense and I still think Pittsburgh can win this game Because I think the defense and TJ Watt's going to be able to play, even with that injury he had last week, so he'll be able to play. I think I'm going to pick Obviously I'm always going to pick Pittsburgh. Man, I'm going to, because you know, got to pick Pittsburgh. I think Russell Wilson will have a better showing. Do you know? The Ravens dropped Deontay Johnson. Yeah, nobody can pick him up until Monday. I think there's a chance he comes back to Pittsburgh Again. We've been looking for another receiver to help our receiving core Along with Pickens.
Jace:He's a locker room cancer. Can't tell him he's not.
Jo:He blamed the organization in Pittsburgh.
Jace:He blamed the organization in Carolina I will give him this credit and he blamed the organization in Pittsburgh. He blamed the organization in Carolina.
Jo:I will give him this credit and he blamed the organization in.
Jace:You didn't come to play, you didn't want to play. No one should pick his ass up. He should be done.
Jo:In the NFL forever.
Jace:Yeah, you didn't want to play. We got you out of the situation you didn't want to be in, brought you here and you didn't come to play. What the fuck? No, you're done.
Jo:There's been a lot of players recently that have been deciding not to play.
Jace:You did not work in the two best-ran organizations in the NFL. There is no one that can fix you. You are unfixable. You are in the two oldest two of the oldest organizations and two of the best-run organizations. Their staffs have been the same forever. Yeah, you're right, and you did not work in those systems. You are the problem. You can't tell me you're not. Yeah, you're not wrong. The Ravens and Steelers have never had a huge problem with players like that besides Ray Rice, and they still made that work for another couple years. You are the problem. It can't be the organizations, it's you.
Jo:For sure. I think, potentially, when he went to Baltimore I think he was coming in thinking that he was going to be a future part of the offense. Because, honestly, who do they have in front of him? Because I think, yeah, but is Zay Flowers really that good? I honestly don't believe he's all that good, I think.
Jace:Zay Flowers is a bust with a pick too.
Jo:I think he was a bust with a wide receiver pick.
Jace:I think he's a bust. I think he's a great slot receiver, yeah, but again, you picked him in the first round, so I think that's a bust. I think you should reevaluate what a first round bust is. Wasn't Najee Harris a first round pick?
Jo:Yeah, but he's been a thousand yard rusher for the last. For every year he's been an NFL guy.
Jace:That's not impressive. There's two niggas in Detroit doing that and they share the ball yeah but they have a much better offensive line.
Jo:Oh.
Jace:Oh.
Jo:So that nigga's not slow.
Jace:Oh he's what pick. Was he exactly 20? I think it's pick 20. Uh, what, what?
Jo:draft was that 2021? Yes, nope, it was 2020, because ben was still there okay, you're sure you want to do this are you sure?
Jo:no, I don't. I really don't want to do this. I don't. I I can say without a doubt I do not want to do this and I'm not going to sit here and try to fight for naji harris that bad, because I've had moments where I've wanted to get rid of him and I'm not going to sit here and defend him like he's an awesome running back. I think he's played well at times, but I think other times, most of the time, he hasn't played all that well and he looks like he's running in molasses most of the time when he's running. But he has moments where he has some very tough runs and I get very excited it makes me happy he wasn't drafted in 2021, 2020.
Jo:Was it 2019 then? Because he played with Ben, he had a Ben year.
Jace:No, devin Bush was drafted. Just think it was drafted in 2021. Okay, 2021. Okay. I.
Jo:This nigga was drafted in 2021. Okay, 2021, okay. I guess that would make sense.
Jace:Travis Etienne was drafted after him, so this nigga's a bust. Travis Etienne's way fucking better than he is.
Jo:Okay.
Jace:Greg Newsome was drafted after him. Okay, rashad Bateman. Y'all could really fucking use Rashad Bateman right now. Um, I can't say this nigga's name Odafe Owahe. How the fuck did I say that shit? I don't know. Baltimore, penn State Outside linebacker.
Jo:I don't know, I got nothing on that one. Look, I just think, for what they thought, zayn Flowers is going to be a number one receiver for them. He has not been that. Maybe I went too far by saying bust.
Jace:But what they drafted him to be, he hasn't been that 2021 first round draft class is hot ass.
Jo:Well, yeah, think about it, it was in the middle of COVID.
Jace:No.
Jo:That was the 2020 draft class.
Jace:Them niggas were in the middle of COVID.
Jo:No, but 2020 into 2021.
Jace:Okay, okay, yeah, but everyone there's.
Jo:The 2020 season and then it's the 2021 draft, because that the draft happened in the spring. So all those players, none of the NFL, none of the NFL guys got to go out and see that because nobody could go to games.
Jace:I can fucking tell. These niggas are ass the best players in this draft. I'm not adding Trevor Lawrence. That nigga's up and down. I'm not adding Kyle Pitts. You just got good and you're not even that good. You got Jamar Chase, jalen Waddell, panay Sewell, pat Sertain, devontae Smith, micah Parsons and Rashawn Slater, and that's it. That is it. I agree. Travis Etienne's iffy Greg.
Jo:Newsome's iffy? Yeah, he is Not really, he has flashes but he's not necessarily he does.
Jace:but Kadarius Toney was picked 20.
Jo:Was he really? They traded up.
Jace:They traded up from 23 to 20 to go get Kadarius Toney. Oh my God, yeah that draft class was not good, this draft class included. I'm sorry, I know I'm segueing, but Trevor Lawrence, zach Wilson, trey Lance Kyle Pitts, jamar Chase.
Jo:We got a fucking bargain.
Jace:We got a bargain for Jamar Chase, yeah. Fifth overall.
Jo:Oh, we got a bargain. Oh, he didn't even play that 2020 season. He opted out who Jamar Chase what. He didn't even play the 2020 season. He didn't even play Jamar Chase the NFL wide receiver.
Jace:He opted out Jamar Chase. Do you know who Jamar Chase is? Yes, Okay, I know he played because he had 1,400 yards and went to the Super Bowl.
Jo:No we're talking about the draft class, right? I'm saying he didn't play his last year at LSU. That's what I was saying.
Jace:Did it matter.
Jo:That's what I'm saying. That fact that he was there on a silver platter for them to pretty much say, oh, he knows Joe Burrow, and he looks pretty good last time we saw him play, we're just going to go ahead and draft him. That's what I was trying to say. I was saying he didn't play his last year at LSU, he just so. He was pretty much hey, last time I played I was with Joe Burrow. That's what they draft him based on.
Jace:Dude, the next fucking round is even worse. The only player I know is Pat Frymouth. In the second round. He was the second round pick, that was a good pick.
Jo:Good pick. Yes, he's been playing very well for them. The him and Russell Wilson's coming together and making some pretty good plays. All right, you're taking us off of this thing. My bad, you picked.
Jace:Baltimore, right, sorry, the next best player after Fryermuth is Amal Rasain Brown in the fucking fourth round.
Jo:Yeah.
Jace:Dude, this draft class is fucking ass. I agree.
Jo:I agree. What was the game again? Baltimore and Pittsburgh.
Jace:Are they at Pittsburgh?
Jo:No Baltimore, Give me Baltimore.
Jace:Okay.
Jo:I don't blame you Next game, but yes, look out for potentially Deontay Johnson to be picked up by Pittsburgh. I think I have to give Deontay a little bit of credit here. With Pittsburgh we had the worst offensive experience for his last few years. Again, it doesn't excuse what he started doing at the end of his time with Pittsburgh. When it comes to him not doing the right things, he was a veteran by that point. He should know how to be a pro and do the right things even if things aren't going your way. But I think that potentially tomlin could massage that and make it to where he can come back and be a contributing member, if any, if nobody else tries to go for him because he is a good player.
Jo:I'm not, I've never sat there and said he's amazing, but he is a good receiver that you have on your team. But will he be the locker room cancer he's kind of been ever since he left pittsburgh is the question you have to answer. All right, next game you got new york giants at atlanta. Atlanta, michael pennix jr making his first start. You did because the news came out the day I podcasted on tuesday and you obviously weren't here. So what? What are your feelings, because you've been waiting on Pettis for the last three or four weeks now.
Jace:You guys are lucky, this worked out.
Jo:They are so lucky. Because they made terrible decisions to all that whole thing. Why do you give Kirk all that? Neil Kirk has a no trade clause.
Jace:I know who the fuck gave him a no trade clause.
Jo:So you can't even sit there and say that they planned for all this to happen, because you're just like. You gave him a no trade clause.
Jace:Why would you give him that If I'm the owner, I'm looking at the GM like you gave him a no trade clause. He's 35.
Jo:And all that money, $90 million.
Jace:That GM would not make it out of the building.
Jo:He has never seen his hair, his only chance is that Michael Penix comes out and just starts slinging the ball around.
Jace:I would have him at gunpoint in the GM box. In the suite. In the suite, I am holding him by the neck at gunpoint. I'm like Michael Penix throws one interception. You are not making it home On live television. I'm going to execute you.
Jo:I think they set Michael Penix up to where if he does not play well it. I think they set Michael Penix up to where if he does not play well it is not giving him a good start.
Jace:I think they set him up like hey, if you throw more than one touchdown, you're the starting quarterback next year. Dude, you can't fuck this up. Oh I know, I promise you, Michael Penix, you cannot fuck this up. If you go out there and throw seven interceptions, you might fuck it up, but, dude, if you show any flash of something special, you're good, you're golden.
Jo:I think the coach Steph put him in a bad spot when it comes to the fan base, because I think the fan base, if he comes out and is not good and he has to warm up to being playing every week, I think you turn the Atlanta fan base off of him potentially before he even has a chance to really stand up and really become the guy I agree, off of him potentially before he has a chance to really stand up and really become the guy I agree because that team's good.
Jace:They have a lot of good talent, they're really cheap right now.
Jo:And that's why they held on to Kirk as long as they did, because they were like we have a chance to get into the playoffs. And heck, right now they still have a chance to make the playoffs because they beat Tampa Bay twice, so they have the tiebreaker, so all they have to do is end up with the same. I think they're only a game out from Tampa Bay, so as long as they end up with the same exact record, they win.
Jace:So as long as Tampa Bay loses one and they win the next two, they make it in.
Jo:Right, so they still have an opportunity to get into the playoffs. So I just feel like this is a bad spot. But I think Kirk was playing so bad that they had no other choice. And here's my thing is that they're also worried about him potentially getting hurt and have to give him injury guarantees, because I think it's another 10 million dollars they have to pay him if he ends up getting hurt while playing. So I just think I don't know what they're going to do. This. It was a terrible decision from the start and I think it could work out just by sheer luck.
Jo:But you know, it's not like this. New York Giants defense is good, so maybe that gives him an opportunity to go out there and make some plays. It is in Atlanta, so that is definitely a good thing for him. He doesn't have to worry about the elements or anything. He can go out there perfect weather, the climate controlled indoors.
Jace:Mike Evans needs 125 yards the next two games to reach 1,000.
Jo:Again.
Jace:He plays the Panthers and the Saints.
Jo:It's going to happen.
Jace:It's going to happen when, oh, they play the Cowboys.
Jo:That's going to happen.
Jace:Yeah, no chance when I watch Dude. Watching Baker to Mike Evans is fucking crazy.
Jo:Oh yeah, Mike Evans is a monster. When he's healthy he's been awesome his whole career. He's probably the most underrated top five receiver. Pretty much ever since he started playing he's been a monster, he's the TY Hilton of our generation. Yeah.
Jace:No one wants to talk about it. Those eight years where it was TY and Andrew Luck, they were crazy. By the way, I'm taking Atlanta. Why wouldn't you Did something make you think I was going to take um? Who was the other team again? Uh, the Giants.
Jo:Oh.
Jace:Did something about me, make me think.
Jo:I was retarded. Even with Pennix being in his first game, Atlanta's still an eight and a half point favorite.
Jace:And I totally believe that. I believe Atlanta can go out there and smoke the Giants.
Jo:I just think the Giants' defensive line is actually pretty good. If they come to play, they can make it very difficult. That defensive line is really fucking good.
Jace:It's just by the third quarter. They're not going to score any points. We can let up some more.
Jo:They're not going to score. It can go both ways.
Jace:We're going to lose. That Giants' defensive line could be the wild card in this.
Jo:Yeah, they were, if they show up and have a monster day. Atlanta could be screwed.
Jace:Dexter, Lawrence, Kayvon Thibodeau and Brian Burns are crazy.
Jo:But that Giants offense sucks, it does the Giants secondary sucks.
Jace:Their linebackers are pretty good, but that's about it.
Jo:But yeah, the Giants just overall.
Jace:They have a great front.
Jo:seven I know who they're starting for them. Is it going to be freaking? It's Locke lock, devito's hurt. Well, there we go. Yeah, they're screwed. In fact, the Giants are going to be drafting quarterback after the season's over. They have to. They're probably going for Sanders, to be totally honest with you.
Jace:They have the record and he's ready for them, and I'm going to praise for Sanders.
Jo:I don't think he's that good. I think he's good. I don't think he's that good. I think physically he's not, but I think mentally he is.
Jace:I think he's not a number one overall pick.
Jo:Yeah, but what quarterback is?
Jace:Joe Shiesty.
Jo:No, I'm saying these quarterbacks that are coming out this year.
Jace:Oh, no, then all the niggas are like late first round picks.
Jo:There's no. Quinn hasn't even decided whether he's going to stay in college or not. He could stay in college for another year. He shouldn't.
Jo:I don't think anybody more well if he keep, if he comes back healthy next year and plays well not for texas, because I think texas is ready for arch manning, but if he comes back and transfers somewhere else and plays well, he could play himself back into being the one overall pick again. But like the quarterbacks coming out this year are not great, it's him, it's, it's uh sorry, sanders, it's gonna be um miami's quarterback cam award, cam award, and that's about it.
Jace:I don't know how you forget him. I always forget him. He was up for Heisman.
Jo:Every time I forget him, I do Dylan Gabriel. I think Dylan Gabriel's draftable, but he's not a first-round pick. He's too small, I don't know who that is. Very, very short quarterback for Oregon.
Jace:Yeah.
Jo:That didn't. Yeah, I know, but Quinn Ewers hasn't really decided whether he's coming back or not. Drew Aller, the Penn State guy who has all the physical tools but has played great every single game, he's coming back to Penn State next year. So like there's not a lot of guys out there to like be ready to go, so I don't know. The race for Sanders, though. Next game, detroit at Chicago.
Jo:I think, Detroit's going to have a bad attitude. I think Detroit's going to have a bad attitude. Their defense is so. They have over 20 guys on IR. They're like the most injured team in the NFL and still the most threatening team in the NFL. But I think that Detroit offense is so good. Golf is going to keep playing well.
Jace:I think the fact that Chicago's defense sucks, I think the fact they're so injured it adds a chip on their shoulder. It only plays into everything and I don't think Dan Campbell is the guy you want with a fucking chip on his shoulder. I don't think you want any of those players with a chip on their shoulder, because all those players have been at least most of that offense, have been playing like hey you guys were never good enough.
Jace:Like Amar Ross Nate Brown, they had an interview. This nigga named all 16. Name first and last college and pick.
Jo:Who the fuck knows that he has it all on his phone Dude.
Jace:no, I'm talking off the dome straight at the camera.
Jo:What college they went to their name and what pick they were. He was on the receiver show last year for Netflix and he says that he practically reads it before every game.
Jace:He goes and reads all of them to give himself a little bit of extra juice. Bro you were. He talked like he was an eighth round, like he was a ninth round pick. Bro you were a fourth round pick.
Jo:You were just talking about how bad that draft was. If you had to redraft, I'm going to say, bro, it wouldn't be a fourth round pick.
Jace:No, if there's a redraft right now, fucking, there's not that good. Uh, trey lance don't get drafted. Zach walsh don't get drafted.
Jo:Mac jones is a late eighth round pick and justin fields goes lower. He's not a first round. He'll probably end up being a second or third round pick, probably how it goes.
Jace:If you redrafted based on how the nfl careers have gone, that's probably how you do redraft to the right team at that time he'd probably still be a late first round potentially.
Jo:Um, yeah, I think detroit's gonna have bad attitude. I think golf is on a freaking heater and that chicago bears defense. As talented as it is, it's bad. So, all that being the case, and not to mention that the chicago offense isn't great and caleb's not playing well, so, even with the issues detroit has on defense, I don't think that chicago is the team to take advantage of that. Cleveland at Cincinnati I'm taking Cincy, obviously, jameis, anything you're starting, it's going to be DTR.
Jace:Dorian Thomas Robinson. Yeah, I have a $20 bet with somebody at work. Let the Bengals win this game. Try to bet him $50.
Jo:He was smarter than that, so you bet how much? $20. $20 smarter than that, so you bet how much $20. $20? Okay.
Jace:I won $10 last time, that's true. And I told him I was like, why would you waste $20? Yeah he was like if you want to waste $20, I could have burned it for you.
Jo:Yeah, Cincinnati, they still have a chance to get into the playoffs.
Jace:They'll play for it. I'm going to win all weekend.
Jo:I'll have to ask what that bet is later, but yeah, I think Cincinnati sells a shot. I think they're the better team. Dtr is not going to be ready and I think it'll be close to begin with. I think by the end Cincinnati will make enough plays to win the game. Next game Tennessee at Indianapolis.
Jace:I need the Colts to lose. So give me Fuck. Tennessee's going gonna fucking botch this game. Give me the Colts. I do need the Colts to lose either this game or the next game oh, you need them to lose too. Yeah, but I'm not gonna trust the Titans to do it they do not have.
Jo:Will Levis is not playing in this game, so he's this game, does it matter?
Jace:He's been benched, does it matter?
Jo:Well, the freaking interception machine that he is, that definitely ups your chances if you're Indianapolis and winning this game. It really does.
Jace:Will Levis finds comical ways to throw interceptions. He's a white, james Winston. It's him and James. He's a white, james Winston.
Jo:Yeah, with less charm.
Jace:With less charm. You're less likable than Jameis Winston.
Jo:Jameis Winston's really likable, but Tennessee is a good team, Like they really. Tennessee has a good defense. Their offensive is not necessarily great but they have good offensive pieces.
Jace:No, they don't. What are their offensive pieces, tony Pollard?
Jo:Tony Pollard, Nick Westbrook and Keeney is okay but he's like who the fuck is that Wide receiver for them? He has like 10, 15 catches on the year. Eight of them were touchdown catches.
Jace:That's not impressive. Same thing Javante.
Jo:Williams did on the Lions. They have that one wide receiver. Why am I forgetting his name? Now it makes it less. Yeah, yeah, you're not wrong, calvin.
Jace:Ridley. He has done jack shit all year.
Jo:Yeah, he hasn't played.
Jace:great, you're right.
Jo:You're not wrong. He has only had three touchdown receptions on the year and the other dude you talked about sounds like Javante Williams.
Jace:From when he was on the Lions. He was just a touchdown vulture.
Jo:Yeah, yeah, just a lot of touchdowns. So, you were a big play. But the defense tendency is actually ain't bad. But you know it's just a bad team Fucking sometimes. I'm taking Indy, you're taking Indianapolis as well. Yeah, okay, next game, la Rams going to the Jets.
Jace:Give me the Rams.
Jo:That's a bad game yeah. I think, yeah, I think the Rams are going to be able to run the football effectively and you finally have Aaron Rodgers not you, not in a warm weather city or in a dome, so he's going to end up playing like an old man again. So I think LA Rams, Puka Nakua, Cooper Cup, Kyron Williams.
Jace:Matthew Stafford. It's funny that he sucks at playing in the cold when he played in Green Bay for so long.
Jo:Well, he's old now. It's like the cold only makes it worse on your bones to be on the death row, I know, but still you played in one of the coldest places to play in the United States.
Jace:True, and you suck in the cold in the United States. True, and you suck in the cold. Like you, suck in the cold yeah.
Jo:And again, so does Tua. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not wrong. But Tua's been in warm weather for most of his career though, so it kind of goes the other way. Next game Philly. Going to Washington, I'm taking Philly.
Jace:Steal their shit in the bed.
Jo:No, Philly whooped that ass.
Jace:I know, that's what I told you. That's what happened. That's what I said would happen.
Jo:They didn't have to run the football. I think the Steelers really did a good job Of limiting Saquon Brock. I think they only had 50 something yards rushing.
Jace:Yeah, you didn't limit nobody else.
Jo:But we limited nobody else and we just let they, just let them throw the football All over our head, right over our head, right over to everybody. Aj Brown, devontae Smith they both had a.
Jace:We had no shot. They both had a hundred. They stopped complaining after this week.
Jo:Yeah, exactly, you know. That's what's so crazy is that if you're AJ Brown and it just takes one good game, why in the heck were you complaining in the first place to media?
Jace:I just don't. You're fucking delusional. Oh, if we could shut Saquon down. I'm like oh yeah, your DB still suck ass. Yeah, I know, them niggas are cheats.
Jo:I thought my offense Would come and do something, but again it feels like without.
Jace:George Pickens, have you seen your?
Jo:offense, our offense is nothing.
Jace:Yeah, your receivers are ass.
Jo:They are Without Pickens, like, literally, firemove became Our best basket After Pickens isn't healthy, that's crazy. So he can't make any big plays down the field. So the next thing you know, the defense just keeps compressing and compressing and compressing and then you can't run the football like you want to. It's bad, it's all over. I agree. Next game, Arizona-Carolina. I'm taking Arizona.
Jace:I'm taking Arizona. It's a dumpster fire game.
Jo:It is, I will not bet this game. I wouldn't know how Arizona's five-point favorites I think I potentially would bet Carolina to cover this spread. Keep the game close, but Arizona still wins. Yeah, because do I believe Arizona can like just blow them out and just like again? Do I trust Kyler like that? I don't think I trust him enough. I'd bet Trey McBride for yards. Do you know? Trey McBride has the most catches in yards in NFL history without a touchdown. He has no touchdowns this year, yeah.
Jace:Previous record holder, deontay Johnson.
Jo:It's crazy, it's insane. The fact that Trey McBride is talented he doesn't have a touchdown this year is wild is does he have a touchdown this year?
Jace:It's wild, they can't get close enough to score.
Jo:Well they are. They're giving it to James Conner and then sometimes giving it to Marvin Harris Jr because they just oh, we dropped this guy in the top five pick. Probably should use him a little bit. They don't use him at all.
Jace:Everybody's been calling him a bust. I'm like, how, how he hasn't been used. He's being I'm like, look at JS In the last two years, underutilized as fuck and then when they make him the number one receiver. And give him targets, you're pretty good. I forgot about that. No, he's not good.
Jo:He's freaking elite dude. He's awesome, like they. Again he's taking over. Who's talking about DK Metcalf at all?
Jace:Nobody. Nobody's talking about him. Js takes over. I don't think DK was ever that good though. He had a couple years where he looked, I think he was just a big body receiver.
Jo:Oh yeah, for sure.
Jace:I'm gonna out muscle you.
Jo:He's uh.
Jace:Jeremiah Smith.
Jo:No, jeremiah Smith is a much better overall player. I think he is a poor man's AJ Brown.
Jace:Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're not as fast. You can't run routes, you are big as fuck and but you can't jump very high poor man's aj brown pretty much what he is exactly they're drafting the same class too.
Jo:Yeah, crazy how that works. But yeah, arizona, I can't. I can't trust kyler, but I do think they're just a better football team and carolina did regress last week, so kind of a it's gonna be yucky game. I'm not sure how much i're going to watch of it. Minnesota at Seattle. This one's tough Geno is coming back. He's going to be able to play in this game after the knee injury last week, is that a good thing?
Jace:Huh, is that a good thing?
Jo:They have freaking Sam Howell behind him, so, yes, it is a good thing.
Jace:I'm not going to lie. Not gonna lie to you how he was awful in that there was a video of a of a um seahawk fan, because gino had been bad in that game as well. Yeah, he was like oh, thank god, gino's hurt. He was like something better after him. He was like that's fucking sam howe and the dude. Just just he fucking flips his automated, runs out the roof and I'm like that is the most realistic feeling I've ever seen in my life.
Jo:Once Sam Howell got in there, you think because Geno wasn't playing terribly.
Jace:He had two interceptions. It wasn't good.
Jo:It wasn't good. But the offense they could not throw the football. They literally could do nothing. Sam Howell was just trying to run away. That's literally what. All again, who were they playing last week?
Jo:was just trying to run away. That's literally what all. Again, who were they playing last week? I forget. I forget who they were playing, but again he was just running for his life. I think Geno has more command of the offense, where he can do a little bit more than just that. But yeah, I'm going to take Minnesota, because Minnesota is a much better football team.
Jo:I agree, I'm going to take Minnesota, I think Minnesota is only a three point favorite. So they do think the game is going to be close and Seattle does have their fans on their side. So it is a hostile environment to play in. But I think Minnesota, the way they're playing, does Seattle have anybody that can stop Justin Jefferson and freaking?
Jace:Jordan Addison.
Jo:Jordan Addison has been unlocked. They're using him a lot more and he's been an absolute monster for them recently. So I'm saying Minnesota will win that game. Where did uh jaylen hyatt go? Hi, I think he drafted by the giants, but I I'm. Is he still on the giants? I don't see him play. He's awful. And you know, what's funny is that he was drafted out of the tennessee offense. That is, like you know, is known as a offense that doesn't produce wide receivers, because all they do is just run straight, so they don't really do a lot of actual route running. And he kept talking like oh, I'm a route runner, I can run routes through his draft process and the Giants fell for it, gave him money. I think they dropped him the second round or something like that. So you get a little bit of guaranteed money and he is a nothing for them, whatsoever Nothing.
Jace:Zero, yeah, I was just thinking about it. I was like I feel like Jalen Hyatt should be in that offense somewhere, right?
Jo:He should Again. It's not like that offense that again they do have. They do have league neighbors. Now Some league neighbors is a different universe than what Jalen Hyatt's ever been in his life. But yeah, but yeah, jalen Hy win, not right now.
Jace:Jay Chizzy. I'm sorry, how many receivers are in the top two?
Jo:Two Top two. They had one good class. Who have they had in Leaked Neighbors? What?
Jace:about the other.
Jo:LSU receiver. They also had.
Jace:Brian Thomas Jr.
Jo:Yes, that's one team that has three good receivers. Who else? Oh, you're right. So there's this guy called Jamar Chase. Who's?
Jace:That's one team that has three good receivers. Who else? Oh, you're right. So there's this guy called Jamar Chase, who's the number one team in the NFL.
Jo:All three of those guys were on the same team. I'm talking about before or after them.
Jace:Malik Nabors.
Jo:Just Malik Nabors, that's it, and Brian Thomas Jr, who's been just as good Before them. I got you. Do I have to go through the list for Ohio State? Go ahead, terry McLaurin.
Jace:Oh, so he's been good as of now.
Jo:Terry McLaurin's been good his whole career. Dude, Don't do that.
Jace:Okay, whatever you want to say.
Jo:You've talked about how great Scary Terry is Go ahead.
Jace:Continue. You're right, he is really good. Go ahead.
Jo:Disrespectful Chris.
Jace:Olave. I didn't see much from him recently.
Jo:Yeah, cause he got a head injury. But he was, he had a thousand on your last year.
Jace:And what since?
Jo:He's been playing with Derek Carr. How is that not his fault?
Jace:That's great continue. Oh, who is Malik Ambrose playing with? Daniel fucking Jones.
Jo:Yeah, but they have nobody else, so like they just keep. Throwing in the football somehow, and they're just making plays Okay.
Jace:so who else is on the fucking Saints?
Jo:Alvin.
Jace:Kamara Left of Alvin Kamara.
Jo:Yeah, Alvin Kamara just got hurt, but he was having a very good year this year.
Jace:Alvin Kamara's like 38 and running back years. How old is Alvin Kamara? He's like I don't even think he's 30, yet he's coming up on his last couple years Cool.
Jo:They have Taysom Hill, the tight end that they just thought was a quarterback at one point, but he's a sick gadget guy.
Jace:Taysom Hill don't count as a player.
Jo:Yes, he does.
Jace:He keeps scoring touchdowns. Taysom Hill's going to be one of those guys I tell my kids about. I'm like, yeah, that nigga wasn't real, like the boogeyman Garrett Wilson JSN.
Jo:Marvin Harrison Jr. Both.
Jace:All of those guys have done nothing this year. They have done nothing. Jsn just started doing something.
Jo:Not because of him. It was because his team was using him, Jamar.
Jace:Chase came out and had 1,400 yards his first season. Justin Jefferson came out and had my bad. Jamar Chase had 1,401 yards.
Jo:Yes, Justin Jefferson had 1,400 yards.
Jace:Yes, Malik Nabors was well on his way to 1,401 yards.
Jo:Yes, justin.
Jace:Jefferson had 1,400 yards. Yes, Malik Nabors was well on his way to 1,000. Marvin Harrison, what?
Jo:will he eclipse 500? They're not using him Nobody's oh. Jamar Chase is surrounded by a whole other weapon.
Jace:Yeah, obviously.
Jo:Justin Jefferson is too.
Jace:Yeah, they're both still number one.
Jo:Okay, I think Ohio State has produced more NFL receivers, More NFL Again. The top end, yes, has not reached top two receivers in the NFL for sure I can agree with that. But I think Ohio State, with Brian Hartline, has continued to produce wide receivers all these years. That's all I'm saying to produce wide receivers all these years.
Jace:That's all I'm saying. Jarvis Landry, otto Beckham, those are two really good ones.
Jo:Those were many years ago, I think. Both of them have over 10-year careers.
Jace:Those are very many years ago.
Jo:That is crazy to think about there was a long gap, that Ohio State kind of filled in there. Well, clemson was in there too. Then Ohio State kind of filled in that gap after Clemson fell off wide receiver wise, and it's been Ohio State ever since. And then you have that one great wide receiver class for LSU, with all three of them Brian Thomas Jr, Jamar Chase and TE Higgins were all I mean sorry, not TE Higgins, jamar Chase and Jamar Chase, justin Jefferson there you go and Brian Thomas Jr, all on the same team, and now you have Malik Nabors, brian.
Jo:Thomas Jr yeah, okay, no, sorry I was mistaking him for a different receiver that everybody thought was very good but didn't do anything in the NFL. So yeah, brian Thomas Jr. So that's five for sure. But I think Ohio State is continuing to produce wide receivers. We're going to have Emeka Ibuka coming out this year, cardinal Tate next year, jeremiah Smith, the year after that we're going to keep producing wide receivers. Is anyone going to reach the height of being a top three receiver in the NFL? That is something you have to question.
Jace:But I think Ohio State Kishon Boutte came out of LSU. I didn't know that.
Jo:Yeah, but he's an absolute nothing with the Patriots. But yeah, we got off track once again, but again. Next game New England Buffalo.
Jace:There is a big-ass gap between. Yeah, yes, of course there was Odell back in Damn, I'm not pretty for it. On the blue Jarvis, leonard was 2014,. So Odell was either right before that Odell, they were both 2014. Yeah, and after that, whole lot of nothing. Right, you have 2015. You got 2016. You got 2017. You got 2018. You got 2018, their best receiver drafted with DJ Chark. You got 2019, where they only had three players drafted from LSU. Yeah, 2020 is when they just kind of Right, Right exactly. And then Clemson ain't done shit.
Jo:The last Well, the Clemson, they did have a run there.
Jace:They did. They did have a run there for a little bit. The last really good Clemson receiver is T Higgins.
Jo:Yeah, that's it. That's the last great one. That's pretty much been. Everything has been downhill, but yeah, but again LSU has a good claim. They really do. I'm not saying that it's like it's by far.
Jace:I know, but they have a good claim on their receivers, are at the top, true Fine, but they only have four. They only have three of those guys that have been at the top Odell, when he was playing in his first eight years was at the top of the NFL. He was top five every year, and then Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson have been top five every year.
Jo:Yeah, for sure I agree, I do agree.
Jace:So they have an upper echelon of hey, they're consistently. When we make them, we make them good.
Jo:Yeah, but Brian Hartline is. When we make them, brian Hartline makes them. There is no. He is getting you in the first round of the NFL draft Like there is no, that's what Brian Hartline gets.
Jace:Agreed. That is your selling point. Yeah, of hey we will not pay you the most, but you're going to get paid.
Jo:It's not like he sits here and only the guys that he takes. It's like the guys that come to my program, the guys that rise to the top. As it rises to the top, they'll be first-round draft picks, no questions asked. Ohio State just had a few wide receivers transfer. There was a whole class that literally did nothing because they were taken over by the other guys before them and now after them. But Jeremiah Smith might be the dude. He might be that guy that takes the top five once he gets in the NFL, Because Jeremiah Smith's that guy he really is.
Jace:I thought Garrett Wilson and Olava were supposed to do that they will be very good.
Jo:But I'm saying uh, so they're no longer gonna be top five it's very hard to say that in the nfl my guy but I'm saying jeremiah smith looks like a generational type receiver. As much as I love chris lava and gary wilson, they're not generational lava, and I thought jsn was supposed to be not generational. That's a very big word. I don't't use generational like that. No, they're great awesome wide receivers, but they're not generational. Jeremiah says generational. There's a difference.
Jace:Okay.
Jo:Okay.
Jace:I'm just trying to be honest. I'll say it when I believe it.
Jo:Okay, fine, that's all good. He has two more years at Ohio State before he gets there.
Jace:Hopefully he stays at Ohio State.
Jo:Don't do that. No State before he gets there. Hopefully he stays at Ohio State. Don't do that. No, no, that is a straw that should not be pulled.
Jace:You leave that alone. You gotta hope he stays. You leave that alone. You gotta hope he stays. If Ryan Niggas gets fired, who knows what happens.
Jo:Is it bad? That's one of my worst fears. I don't want to see Jeremiah Smith leave. I just don't want to see him leave.
Jace:He's gonna get bounced first round. Jeremiah Smith's going to go to Alabama or somewhere, I don't know. I don't know that many Not. Alabama. I don't know that many college football teams. Okay, I know like eight.
Jo:When you said that, that unlocked a little bit of fear for me, because I need to see Tim Hortons and Jeremiah Smith.
Jace:Is it a fear? Yeah, a little bit.
Jo:Or is it a reality? It's not a reality. It's a fear, because I think they're going to win tomorrow. But you know they're going to win tomorrow and Ryan Day will not be fired, especially if they win. They're not firing Ryan Day, there is no question about it. Next game New England-Buffalo. Let's get through the last four games.
Jace:we got Five games. I'll take Buffalo.
Jo:Yes, new England's. I mean New England just they have flashes with Drake May, but it's just Buffalo's a lot better football team. Buffalo's won this game handily because of how just just a lack of playmakers and defenders that they just hit doing they just can't handle Buffalo at this point. Next game Jacksonville Las Vegas. Holy f, this game is gross. This game is awful. What you thinking? Jacksonville at Las Vegas.
Jace:God gross. Give me Jacksonville. I hate this game. I don't want Mac Jones, I hate this game. Give me Jacksonville, I'm not. No, give me the Raiders. Give me the Raiders, I'll take the Raiders.
Jo:O'Connell will be the starting quarterback for the Raiders in this game. He's better than Mac Jones. He's better than Mac Jones. He is better than Mac Jones. I'll take the Raiders. I think I'm taking the Raiders too. How crazy is that? Yeah, I think the Raiders. They're both bad football teams. They really are. They're both just awful.
Jace:Next game I'll take them.
Jo:But having Mac Jones isn't much better trying to lose Having Mac.
Jace:Jones is awful. I guarantee you we better trying to lose. Having Mac Jones is a guarantee you are going to lose.
Jo:Mac Jones was. He actually did not have a bad game last game, but it's just, you know, you're not in the full quarterback, bro.
Jace:Huh, he's not in the full quarterback, he's not.
Jo:He'll be a career backup Literally a career backup. He'll make millions of dollars. That's crazy how you could just be a career backup, hold the clipboard, help out the starting quarterback and you just make a few million dollars and just have a nice old time. Start a few games. Somebody gets hurt, but, like it's insane, it's probably the easiest job in the NFL outside of being a. Is it easier than being a kicker?
Jace:No, because the least kicker has to have to deal with that. I'd say it's the easiest and hardest job in the NFL at the same time.
Jo:Right, probably the most overpaid job in the NFL.
Jace:I wouldn't say that. I'd say that you pay for a good one for a good reason.
Jo:True, but there's a chance. They may not ever play.
Jace:And that's fine, but the fact that they're there I am okay with. They paid Jake Browning like $15 million over the next like three years. That is a lot. That is a lot.
Jo:But again with the injury history.
Jace:But I know that boy can go out there and start slinging that football and win you some games and win some games Right. So the fact that they have him Right.
Jo:It makes you feel better. You could be Seattle with Sam Howell behind.
Jace:Geno, exactly, we're not sitting in Kansas City's fucking position of who's their backup.
Jo:You don't want to fucking know. I know who is it it's Carson Wentz. They're cooked.
Jace:If I'm Kansas City, mahomes probably looked at Wentz like.
Jo:No, I'm playing. That's probably why I'm playing. That's probably why Mahomes was like Nope, I'm not. I'm not losing any games, I'm playing Me with one leg is better than him Dude.
Jace:That's the thing. Jake Browning is a quality backup. True, okay, jake Browning is a quality backup.
Jo:True Fucking.
Jace:Jameis ain't a terrible backup. Sparingly, jameis has a two week shelf life Of. He will win you two games and you'll have thoughts of oh, maybe he can be. And then suddenly, How'd you throw five interceptions, gang? Last week you threw seven touchdowns.
Jo:God delivers me from throwing back sixes. Dude Is forever the biggest, the best line I've ever heard in my life.
Jace:Last week you threw seven touchdowns. I hope God delivers me from throwing back sixes. Dude Is forever, I know.
Jo:The biggest, the best line I've ever heard in my life.
Jace:I know, but again he is a quality Fucking backup For a couple of games, not a couple For like one or two Max and halfway through that second game.
Jo:He's gonna start kinda losing. It's only bad because he gives you hope While at the same time Ruining your hope at the same time.
Jace:It's all the same, but somehow he keeps talking and I'm like I'm going to start you again.
Jo:I like you. I like you, but I know you're bad. I shouldn't, but I'm going to start you one more week. But again that's what the Browns almost did. They fell into and he finally started losing the football games. But again he's a quality backup.
Jace:For those first two games he was lights out 306 yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions. Next game the Steelers game. All right. He played well 200 and something yards, two touchdowns, one interception. That's a good defense. I'll give that to you. Four interceptions what the fuck happened, gang? They're not as good as the Steelers defense.
Jo:I will give you this is that the the level of good backup to the rest of the league is a huge gap. If you have one of those backups, that are very good. I think the Steelers to a certain extent, even though Russell, like none of them are, either of them are guaranteed pass this year, but having Justin Fields as a backup is a quality backup in the NFL because, there's a lot of backups that are nobodies and shouldn't be on a football team, Exactly so when they get paid that money.
Jace:There is 32 quarterbacks in the NFL. There is about six guys that are good enough to be backups and they are good enough to be. Those guys can start you. They can get you through six weeks before they really start getting bad.
Jo:I think Dalton was okay for a minute until he finally went back. Very bad.
Jace:But again, he was only out there for four weeks.
Jo:Yeah.
Jace:They will give you six weeks of decent football until they show you why they're backups. Jake Browning Dude. Last year I was looking at Jake Browning like we're about to make the fucking playoffs. Yeah, he was slinging that motherfucker 400 yards in one game. He was slinging that, yeah. And then it was interception, interception, interception. I'm like, oh okay.
Jo:I'm sorry, I didn't see it, didn't see it coming. Stop, please, please, give me what it was early, come on. I fell in love with you so early Come on.
Jace:Legit First game bro went out there. He threw three touchdowns and ran for one, I'm like, and then does it again, and then does it again, and then we're playing the Ravens. You get an interception. You get an interception, pick six, fumble. I'm like, oh my God.
Jo:You're horrific, you suck. When he falls off a cliff, it does very fast, dude, he nosedived.
Jace:And then it was just fucking waved and I'm like dude I can't do this all day. I can't. We ended up 9-8. If you would have won one game, we would have made the playoffs. All right, I digress Continue.
Jo:Oh, by the way, Georgia, they won't have their starting quarterback for the whole playoff.
Jace:He's done for the year. Carson Beck's over.
Jo:San Francisco going to Miami. Give me.
Jace:San.
Jo:Francisco. Me too, because you know Miami doesn't have. I think Tyreek is probably not going to play, Waddle's not going to play, so they have no shot. It's over. No shot, no shot. So San Fran, san Fran. Next game Tampa Bay at Dallas.
Jace:I'm taking Tampa Bay. I'm taking Tampa Bay.
Jo:Tampa Bay is a feisty football team.
Jace:When they're playing, well, they're scrappy.
Jo:When they're playing. Well, they are nasty. I agree. Last week they handed the Chargers their ass. They said we're just going to take this home with you. That game was not close at all when Baker and they have Mike Evans out there making plays. You know, what's funny is that they don't even have the other one, godwin, they don't even have Chris Godwin.
Jo:That's another wide receiver they don't have. And then they drafted the guy from Oregon and he's playing great for them and he's just making some plays. It's just Tampa Bay is a very good football team. Well, not just him. They drafted the wide receiver from there too, I think, and he's playing well. But Bucky Irving running back very very good.
Jace:He's been awesome this year, agreed.
Jo:Last but not least, New Orleans going to Green Bay.
Jace:Why Green Bay? This game is gross, this is the most mix-and-match NFL slate I've ever seen in my life.
Jo:Yep.
Jace:Some of these games are unbettable.
Jo:I'll find a way, dude, I'm going to find a way, no questions asked.
Jace:I'm going to look at certain games and be like no fuck that. Can you plug in the laptop Right, quick yeah.
Jo:But yeah, no, that Monday night game. Uh, I'm not sure if I can get flexed out or not, but they probably need to try because that game is gonna probably need to try because green bay is gonna destroy new orleans and it's not gonna be much not be very.
Jace:Won't be fun to watch or unless green bay.
Jo:Just they could. Wouldn't be funny if green bay just kind of poop right down their leg and it just kind of ruins it all but yeah so that's all.
Jo:The games went through it all talked about a lot of stuff. We've digressed many a times and, uh, that's about it for us. So, heck, the freaking. The game is going on right now. I don't even know what it is, I haven't been even checking, so let's go ahead in this podcast now. So if you've been listening for a while, we appreciate you. Um, if you're just now joining in, hopefully you like us and enjoy us and want to stick around for the journey of us talking about sports in the dumbest way possible. Definitely love. If you could do that, if you do like us and enjoy what we do, if you could do a couple things for us, we'd appreciate. If you could Like our podcast, subscribe to the podcast, rate the podcast five stars wherever you listen to us. Share our podcast friends, family, enemies, anybody.
Jace:We're not winning a bet tonight.
Jo:How bad is it?
Jace:14-0, second quarter. Oh no, we're not winning a bet. Oh no, that's not good.
Jo:Okay, I'm not feeling great. Maybe Indiana can do something. There's two punts.
Jace:Oof and one errors.
Jo:Oh, I got to do that In the middle of my outro. I, after we was over, share the podcast.
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