JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
Buckeye's Magical CFP Run and NFL Wild Card Recap
What if player contracts and team dynamics were more intricate than they appear? Journey with us through the world of sports as we unravel the complexities of Jimmy Butler’s friction with the Miami Heat, dissecting his contract woes and the implications of his unconventional behavior. We promise insights into the broader NBA landscape, where new trade rules and the CBA deal aim to prevent the rise of super teams, reshaping how contracts are structured.
Our attention shifts to the gridiron, spotlighting college football's thrilling semifinals where Notre Dame edged out Penn State. We analyze the strategic brilliance and blunders from both teams, including Notre Dame's comeback fueled by Penn State's offensive and defensive lapses. Are the Buckeyes going to be stopped in the playoff? We react to their semifinal game against Texas in a roller-coaster of a game with Ohio State managing to win despite some mistakes on offense with the help of a legendary moment from Jack Sawyer with a late-game strip sack touchdown to seal it.In the NFL, we explore how recent games have reshaped playoff predictions, with standout performances altering the fate of teams like the Rams, Texans, and Commanders. Expect engaging debates on quarterback rankings, assessing Justin Herbert's pressure performance against the likes of Mahomes and Burrow, and critiques of coaching decisions impacting team trajectories.
Finally, we dive into the drama of NFL coaching changes, focusing on the Patriots' shifting leadership and the Bengals' coaching frustrations. With humor and candor, we explore the ramifications of coaching decisions on team success, as seen with the Patriots' latest changes and the Cowboys' head scratching coaching negotiations. We also tackle the NFL draft speculation, comparing emerging talents to established stars, and consider how these choices could influence team futures. Whether debating Travis Hunter's defensive prowess or analyzing the Rams' playoff threat, join us for a sports discussion that's both insightful and entertaining.
Welcome back to the podcast. Today is Tuesday, January the 14th. We're back to the podcast.
Speaker 2:We're back. It's Tuesday. A lot of football happened this weekend College football, semifinal games, you have the Super Wild card weekend for the NFL and I don't necessarily want to go too far into anything else. I want to get right into things. But one question for you Jimmy Butler the only reason I mentioned him because he's a former Bull and all that, but his whole thing with the Miami Heat.
Speaker 2:Obviously he wanted to be assigned for like another five, like three, four, five year deal, because obviously it's like his last big payday, probably for the rest of his career. Miami told him no and like he's been pretty much very, uh, not cool with it ever since this and the only reason I wanted to mention this because he's asked for a trade multiple times. They pretty much said no because they'll never get enough for him for what he is their best player and Miami doesn't want to become a team that instantly doesn't become relevant at all. They want to keep being competitive and for whatever team that wants to trade for him. It's so hard now because of all the new trade rules and stuff where, depending on the team that wants to trade for him, the money has to be exactly right and all that, but it has gotten so bad that apparently he ended up getting a seven-game suspension because apparently he started insisting to take his own private plane to all the games, while the rest of the team takes the team plane to games and stuff like that. Do you know how expensive private planes are? So the fact that it has gotten so bad that he doesn't want to take a plane with his teammates, he wants to spend the extra money to get him himself, his own self, a private plane to each and every destination. They're not going this from miami. This is not a centrally located city, so when they're going to denver they're going to like they're going all across the country, no matter pretty much where they go except for Orlando.
Speaker 2:So like the idea that it's gotten so bad that he's willing to pay out of pocket again, he's getting paid $50 million. He's been getting paid $50 million a year for the last couple of years now and he's been a pretty well compensated player pretty much ever since he left Chicago the first time not first time, but ever since he left chicago. He's been pretty well compensated wherever he has been. So the idea that has gotten so bad that you're not willing to take the team plane and you're willing to spend your own money and when you can be taking a free plane everywhere you need to go, is absolutely insane.
Speaker 2:And the fact that it has gotten so bad now because usually all it takes is a player to say he wants to get traded and usually they get traded right away so the fact that it's gotten so bad, not only for teams that have to trade for players in the NBA, but for the before, the teams that want to trade a player to to stay relevant and all that the fact that it's not happening, they're holding on to him so tightly is crazy. It's insane. And this is the same heat team that got rid of Dwayne Wade when he didn't want to be there, no more. So like they traded away. So like the fact that they're like in a spot where they won't trade Jimmy Butler away and Jimmy Butler I get it, he's done a lot for them, but he's no Dwayne Wade.
Speaker 2:So you know it's not. It's more than just about like, just about the player. It's about business and all that. So the fact that he's making such a big stink about it and again he reiterated his trade demands today so the idea that's gotten that bad is kind of insane, but that's how the nba goes. I only wanted to mention that because it was a funny thing that I saw. Taking your own private plane everywhere is insane, um I mean, I guess that makes sense, jim 35 yeah, no, yeah, you get, you have one.
Speaker 2:You have one chance for a big contract for the rest of your career. Yeah for sure, and I I guess it does. It probably does have to hurt his feelings that, as much as he's given to that miami heat team, he's still their best player. The fact that they're not willing to commit to him because I think they he's still they saw him like 55 million next year or something like that so the fact that he just wants to get an extension and they're not willing, to give that to him with the team.
Speaker 1:I don't understand team. I don't understand why he couldn't just keep paying him.
Speaker 2:Well, they just don't want to keep giving him that type of money and him on the decline, Because obviously he's like 34, 35 years old, which I agree, but he ain't been declining.
Speaker 2:He's still consistently your best player, yeah, but I also think that for the player, that he is with what his game is is like effort, with what his game is, is like effort. It's not athletic peak, it's nothing like that. So his fall it's not as steep, it's not as big as a fall Like LeBron. When you're so athletic and more talented him falling he's still a lot better than a lot of people. As he's going down Jimmy Butler, he'll start becoming a Jimmy or Joe in the NBA pretty quickly because him being supremely athletic was not ever a part of his game. It's all effort. Same thing with freaking for the Warriors. Draymond, his game declined.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Draymond was never Jimmy Butler, still scoring 25 to 30 a night.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah for sure, the scoring will never go down when it comes to defense, when it comes to that type of stuff, that's effort and energy type of thing Agreed.
Speaker 1:But yeah, when it comes to defense, when it comes to that type of stuff, that's effort and energy type- of things Agreed, but you're already talking about a team that don't play any fucking defense.
Speaker 2:Miami, they're a good team that plays defense.
Speaker 1:They have a 6'9 center. They don't play any fucking defense. I watched Wemby put up 40.
Speaker 2:No, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1:That part. You're not wrong about Seven-foot centers. Can't stop him Now you have. Bam oh.
Speaker 2:Bam's been an undersized center for his whole career, exactly, and he's not a defensive center, apparently that's all he brings.
Speaker 1:He's not offensive at all. He's not an offensive guy Dude. I don't know what the fuck he does, because that dude is a power forward.
Speaker 2:You have a power forward. No, he's kind of like in the Draymond lineups, Draymond ended up being the center which is why, when they don't, and they don't even want to do that anymore. They're like Draymond can't do it.
Speaker 1:Bam's on the smaller side. I think him and Tyler Hero might be closing night.
Speaker 2:No, he's definitely much bigger than Tyler Hero. I think that's pretty clear. He's bigger than Tyler Hero. Let's fact check that you can Go for it real quick. But no, he's definitely better than Tyler. Tyler here is like 6'2", 6'3", bam's like 6'7", like no doubt. I probably should have looked up at least one of them. Make it a lot easier on ourselves to make sure.
Speaker 1:Bam on a ball is 6'8". Tyler here is 6'6". Okay, that is a two-inch sure.
Speaker 2:I'm on about six foot eight. Tyler Hero is six foot six.
Speaker 1:Okay, that is a two inch difference.
Speaker 2:I said six, eight. That is your center. That is your center Right. That is undersized. Tyler Hero plays point or point guard. Yes, but Tyler, here is a tall point guard. Point guards have really gotten bigger nowadays. The fact that Luca at six, eights playing point and you have a lot of point guards that are a lot taller nowadays.
Speaker 1:He is the same height as Jimmy Bowler.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's about right. No, I'm saying about right, as in what I've seen from them. They're similar heights but you're right when it comes to him being out of position, that's for sure. But again, that's what's given Miami a lot of. Because here's the thing with Miami what big men have they really had to face over the years? It's mostly the Sixers, and that's about it because the Sixers is the only one that really has a true big man in Joel Embiid. Everybody else has smaller centers.
Speaker 2:I guess you can include, uh, the Knicks now with Cat, but Cat doesn't really play like a center like that, like he. I think he's gotten a lot better now that he's with the Knicks, but like he's still not a big bang you inside that was a weird way to say that he's not a big body on the inside that plays like a real center. So having a guy like Bam that may not be as tall but he's definitely thick enough to play good defense down on the block, it was definitely something that they used a lot when the Heat were contending to go all the way to the finals and all of that. Who gives? All right, let's go ahead and get out of that. Let's talk about the thing we actually care about and talk about football.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Sorry, I still kind of want to talk about this. They're still paying Terry Rozier $24 million a year, uh-huh, and he ain't fucking worth that.
Speaker 2:They're paying Terry Rozier $24 million a year, uh-huh, and he ain't fucking worth that.
Speaker 1:Probably not. No, terry Rozier is $30. Uh-huh, scoring Is that a 6?
Speaker 2:6.4 game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's yeah, 6.4? Bro, I have just 28 minutes, fuck you doing 6 points, 28 minutes a game.
Speaker 2:Ooh, that's kind of rough. And he's not a defensive player either, so it's not like he's even bringing you that.
Speaker 1:Eesh, that's tough. He has less assists than Bam Butler and Tyler Hara. No fucking steals. Jimmy Butler averages two. Jimmy butler averages two blocks I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not necessarily thinking that terry rosier averages two and a half turnovers I think this is more about their future and they want to stay flexible. As soon as you play a, pay a player of jimmy butler's caliber 50 something million dollars a year for multiple years in a row, especially when he's on his decline. If he was four, three, four years younger, I think miami would have no issue paying him the money he's trying to get. But I think they're not trying. They're not trying to commit to him for multiple years over, because then that ruined that kind of. If that decline really does happen and jimmy butler ends up becoming useless as a player, that castraps your team. And when, when?
Speaker 2:Next thing, you know, like nowadays, with the all the new trade rules and stuff like that, that ruins everything. And I think the new trade, that the new rules when it comes to like the aprons and all of that it was it is the NBA trying to battle back against all the, all the players coming together and just deciding they want to get traded and go to the same team and then go making super teams. So now the NBA kind of battled back, the owners battled back on that, but I think because of that and because of the CBA deal they signed, I think it gave not only the teams less options to want to get like or to make wild changes when it comes to their team, when it comes to trade and stuff like that, but it also made it a lot harder for the players too, because there's a lot of players right now that aren't going to get nearly the money as they thought they're going to get, because they, when they signed the cba, they were just thinking, oh, we're just getting a bigger chunk of the pie, so all that money will come to us. No, the nba still has an option to not pay that, pay that money out, and they're they value their flexibility so much in in on their teams to be able to make moves when they need to, that they're going to be less willing to give pete, give teams, give players like, guaranteed money for a certain amount of time.
Speaker 2:I really do think the nba you know the nba is like known as, like the you, as you get all the money that you sign for, the NBA is going to start making contracts like the NFL. Obviously, the tippy-top players will get all the guaranteed money and the contracts still stay the same, but when it comes to their middle-tier guys and the lower-tier guys, they're going to start being more and more like NFL contracts, which is because of how all these rules have kind of come up, come together and how it's working right now. So it's Jimmy Butler is like he's, he's obviously near the tippy top of the league, so like he shouldn't be having these issues. But when you're a team like Miami not really having the success they want to have and in where they want to see their future going, they want to kind of make some changes at some points.
Speaker 2:Giving that type of money to Jimmy Butler for the next three, four years or so may not be in their best interest as a basketball team, because it's not like Miami is not a place where they can just get free agents. They don't. Players just don't go to Miami to go play, other than when LeBron was there, that's it. I guess Dame wanted to go there at some point but they couldn't make it happen, and so they've had players that have thought about wanting to go there but for whatever reason it hasn't really happened other than Jimmy and LeBron.
Speaker 1:I agree. I just I don't know. I feel like they're wasting cap space on a guy like Terry Rozier, who was his whole thing was scoring. Yeah, he's not doing that.
Speaker 2:But I think with you said he's getting paid. How much?
Speaker 1:$26 million, like it was like yeah, something like $26, $24.
Speaker 2:That's an easier contract to get rid of if they decide to start trading people.
Speaker 1:Yes, but he's the player that I don't want that.
Speaker 2:No for sure. No, you're not wrong that part you're not wrong about. But I just think, future-wise, that's where they're making their decision about, jimmy Butler. All right, college football let's start with that. Semifinals happened this past weekend.
Speaker 2:We'll start with the first game that happened Notre Dame-Penn State. Notre Dame won the game 27-24. The game started out so boring. In the first half there was only 13 total points scored. Penn State was up 10-3. Penn State should have been up by a lot more, based on the way that game was going.
Speaker 2:Penn State was dominating in every way. For the good portion of that whole first half they were really dominating. The fact that it was only 10-3 was definitely bad on their parts, because Penn State, their defense was really controlling the game. Notre Dame really couldn't do anything in this game. Throwing the football wasn't really an option for Notre Dame at all. Notre Dame's defense was playing well, but just Penn State was able to move the football. You could just tell on both lines of scrimmages that Penn State had the advantage in both and with the fact that Notre Dame dearly didn't have a lot of crazy good players on the perimeter to get the ball to and they really couldn't trust Riley Leonard in the first half to really get the ball to wherever he needed to go. Penn State looked like they were on the verge of really winning this game, but in the third and fourth quarter, notre Dame then scored like 17 unanswered points until Penn State kind of there was like a barrage in the fourth quarter where Penn State scored 14 and Notre Dame scored 17.
Speaker 2:Um, and it got to a point where they were both tied. It was like late in the game. It was with like like four minutes and 30. Well, sorry, with three minutes and seven, no, four minutes 38 seconds left, notre Dame scored a touchdown. It was like a 54 yard pass and, uh, riley Leonard threw it to one of their wide receivers in the corner that was covering him, just fell from Penn State, literally fell on his own, tripped over his own feet like it was like the most comical looking play of all time and all he had to do was hit him. He was wide open and he got down the field as a 54 yard touchdown pass.
Speaker 2:Pass, penn State gets the ball back. All they have to do is run the ball. All they do is run the ball effectively and they can go to overtime. Actually, no, because I think it was. The ball got switched over a couple times. After that Touchdown, penn State went three and out had to punt, and then Notre Dame had a six-play drive and then punted. So Penn State got the ball with like a minute and like a minute or so left and all they had to do was just run out the clock, go to overtime.
Speaker 2:Penn State has the better team. You feel like that is what Penn State should want to do, because why would you put the ball in Harmer's way, trying to push it down the field, when you can just go to overtime? And usually the team that has more talent, that is bet that has more depth, usually wants there to be more of a game, because that's usually when teams went out is when I have more good players than you do. And as you start to get tired later on in the game, as we add more and more minutes with overtime, that's when we take the advantage. But they decided not.
Speaker 2:Drew Aller threw a very late pass over the middle and do you know in this game one of the funniest stats that happened all season this was the first game in this whole college football season that a wide receiver did not catch a pass for Penn State.
Speaker 2:So there was not a wide receiver that caught a pass for Penn State in this game. That was the first time that happened all season for any college football team in any game. So the fact that all their passes went to tight ends Tyler Warren's a very good tight end and their running backs are the only people that caught passes in this game why would you, as Drew Aller or the coaching staff, set him up to try to make a pass to a wide receiver that hasn't done anything all day and when that pass goes out, it gets picked. Notre Dame has the ball in in good field position, they take a few plays and they get in the field goal field range and they hit the field goal to win the game. I, when we were doing our confidence rankings and all the college football teams, I wanted to have Penn State higher up because I was believing in the talent that they were, and they did that through the first two games. The first two games they took care of.
Speaker 1:Who did they play in the first two games?
Speaker 2:You're right, you're not wrong. I was believing in the path that they had and saying that Penn State is so good, james Franklin can't fuck it up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he can't.
Speaker 2:James Franklin can't fuck up anything. This Notre Dame team, as great as the story has been, they lost to NIU early on in the season at home and they have played out the rest of the season. They played very well, got to the playoff. They destroyed Indiana. But when these two teams were playing it was very obvious Penn State was the better football team. The difference was they were a better football team from top to bottom. The difference was and they were a better football team from top to bottom. The difference was that Drew Aller played quite possibly his worst game that he has played all season.
Speaker 2:Not to say, drew Aller was really a great quarterback in the first place. He went 12 of 23 for 135 yards and interception. And again that Notre Dame defense is very good, their secondary is awesome. And again, the fact that his wide receivers couldn't make a play in this game to catch a football is absolutely insane. But even in this game, notre Dame's offense did so little in this game that Penn State should have had this game over by halftime and they didn't. And it got to a point where James Franklin had to make a decision and he decided to go for it with a Drew Aller and Drew Aller made the fatal mistake that they couldn't make and they gave the ball back to Notre Dame and Notre Dame finished the job.
Speaker 2:And I have to give the coach for Notre Dame, freeman Marcus Freeman, a lot of credit that he, throughout this whole playoff, has coached very well. His teams have been very solid, haven't made a lot of mistakes. Riley Leonard did have a couple of interceptions in this game but again with Penn State not doing anything with it, it didn't really matter. But for the most part you can tell this Notre Dame team is very polished. They don't make a lot of mistakes. They play very disciplined, especially on defense, and they have a very good defense. And even with their their mess ups on offense, jeremiah love, their running back is very good and riley leonard, as much as he can't pass, he does run to make up for he had 35 yards in the touchdown. He runs in between the tackles. He's like an extra running back, the way they use him so they run air force offense practically because their wide receivers are nothing scary whatsoever.
Speaker 2:So, like you said from the outset, is that give James Franklin a chance, he will mess it up, and James Franklin finally found a reason and a spot to mess it up, and him and Drew Aller messed it up together, and that sucks, because this Penn State team was actually pretty good. They're not Ohio State obviously Not many teams are, as it's kind of proven throughout this year but they were a very good team that had a very open path when they started this playoff. The fact that they lost to Oregon and got gifted the ride of having to play SMU in Boise State in your first two games as a playoff team was a gift that they should have taken advantage of and they didn't. And that is a testament to how bad James Franklin is as a head coach and that's what it is when it is on that and Notre Dame is going to be in the I knew he was going to fuck this up.
Speaker 1:And you said it no, I will be the first team you've played this entire time and you botch it. Come on right, that's a Penn State thing to do.
Speaker 2:That is a Penn State thing to do. Again. What is it worth? Because, no matter what team would have won that game, they probably are just there to go get destroyed by Ohio State in that game. But they're there, they get to play one more week together and Penn State doesn't. So is what is on that?
Speaker 2:Drew Allard did say that he wasn't going to return to Penn State a few weeks ago, but they asked him right after the game no, sorry, right before the game that week and he was like we'll wait until the season is over to figure that out. So there's a chance Drew Aller may have heard something from the NFL that makes him decide to change his mind. Maybe the fact that there's only two quarterbacks in this draft that anybody is even close to wanting to draft. So maybe a guy like Drew Aller with all the talent and the body Again, the NFL loves quarterbacks from the middle of the country that are tall and and have all the skills, like when it comes to tools, that nfl loves that, even if they mess up on it, they love to draft guys like that. So maybe he might hear something different, decide to go to the nfl, but uh, as of right now, he hasn't made that decision. But again, it's kind of funny how he was so willing to not kind of commit when he was asked, right before the game started, when he started getting a little bit of heat Not heat traction when it comes to potentially NFL draft stock. All right on to the next game, the big one. This is one obviously for me.
Speaker 2:Ohio State Texas hit each other on the Friday night in the Cotton Bowl. Ohio State wins the game 28-14. This game was back and forth. This was not a game like the two prior to this that Ohio State played, where they destroyed Tennessee and they were done by halftime. Where they destroyed Oregon and it was over by halftime. This game was a game where Ohio State did not especially offensively, did not play their A-plus game. They played their C game or C-plus, B, b-minus maybe.
Speaker 2:I have to give Texas a lot of credit. They're a very good team. Their defense played up to their like. Whatever ceiling that people saw from Texas' defense, they played up to it in this game. They played double coverage on Jeremiah Smith all day. They were not going to let Jeremiah Smith game. They played very. They played double coverage on jeremiah smith all day. They were not going to let jeremiah smith beat them, and they didn't. Jeremiah smith had one catch for three yards in this game, so he literally did nothing in this game whatsoever. Um, their defense also. Their linebackers were running around everywhere really getting after everybody. Um, and their safeties are very good, like they were played, very disciplined, they stake. They stuck with two safeties over top and they pretty much said hey, if you're going to want to score, you're going to have to nickel and dime your way down the field. And that's the way they played most of the game, outside of one big mistake that they made right before halftime. I'll have to get to that in a second. Their defense played very well.
Speaker 2:Now, speaking to Ohio State's offense against that defense, will Howard played an awesome game, even if the stats really didn't really look. See it out that way Will Howard 24, 33, 289 yards, one touchdown, one pick. I have to give Will Howard a lot of credit. He took what was given to him. He checked the football down a lot. Then the first drive of the game where Ohio State just managed to take the ball right down the field. They were very surgical. Will Howard had a couple of very like dot throws that some of them were like so close to getting picked, but he was just rare on the money Threw the ball to Emeka Ibuka. They got down the field, scored a touchdown very quick 7-0. It looked like Ohio State was going to run away with this thing.
Speaker 2:But in the drives after that it was the Ohio State offense when it comes to holding calls. Travion Henderson they ended up getting past the 50-yard line. Travion Henderson ended up hitting a guy. Hitting one of the Texas guys in the face mask Ends up getting a 15-yard penalty. So over and over again, literally right after that first drive of the game, through pretty much the next two quarters, it was Ohio State sputtering offensively where they couldn't do anything because of their own mess-ups. And Texas made it difficult too, but it was more. Ohio State couldn't really get any drives going because of their own mistakes. When it comes to penalties and stuff like that, that really hasn't been the case for Ohio State this year. They haven't really been penalized much at all. Where that really hasn't been the case for Ohio State this year. They haven't really been penalized much at all.
Speaker 2:And then at the Ohio State gets that scoring drive, goes up 7-0. It stayed 7-0 for most of the first and second quarters and then Texas manages to get a good drive going, manages to score the ball 7-0 with like 28 seconds left or something like that, putting the ball back to Ohio State. Feelings are good. Texas in the ballgame, their offense finally did something on a wheel route. By the way, the wheel route caught Ohio State lacking twice in this game. I hope that doesn't happen again.
Speaker 2:Jim Knowles of DC kind of said afterwards that he was being a little too aggressive and he allowed that play as an opening. But that part did suck because Ohio State's defense played very well outside of that 28 seconds left. It looked like Ohio State was just going to need the ball out and go into halftime. They managed to hit Travion Henderson with a screen pass, a perfectly timed screen play. Get the ball to Travion. He hits a 75-yard touchdown reception to the house. Get the offensive lineman out. This is like a classic screen play. You can play on Madden or on college football. Get the offensive lineman out. He ends up just running to the house. He might look. He looked like the fastest player in college football when he was running that. That's that 75 yards. Awesome play goes into halftime coming out.
Speaker 2:Ohio stands up throwing a pick on the first drive out, drive out. Will Howard, kind of keyed in on Jeremiah Smith, throws a pick to a defensive lineman, dropped out into coverage he's right there, will Howard doesn't see him Throws a pick. Texas doesn't do anything with it. You blah, blah, blah, blah. They end up scoring again in that third quarter and make it 14-14. Then Ohio State start the fourth quarter. Manage to go on like a seven minute touchdown drive score. The ball Looks like they're going up seven, not going up, 21 to 14. Texas gets the ball back and they go on a quick drive. It looks like they're hitting a couple of big plays on the field and that was rare because of Texas didn't get a lot of big plays and they really didn't throw the football very well in this game. For the most part Managed to get down to the one-yard line after a pass interference call in the end zone happened and they had. So it's first and goal from the one-yard line, first play.
Speaker 2:They try to run it up the gut to Ohio State like through Ohio State's defense. They deny them Nothing. Close Second and one or something like that. They try to run a pitch like an outside pitch type of thing where the running back running outside Caleb Downs, makes an awesome play and stops that from ever happening. And then you have other guys come in and clean up the mess and they lost like seven yards on that play. And then on third and goal, they try to pass it. Jack Sawyer came in, made a play and was able to get pressure on him and they didn't complete that pass. And then on fourth down, fourth and goal, texas goes for it, trying to get the touchdown, tie it all up and Jack Sawyer, captain Jack himself, comes up, gets the strip sack, picks the ball up and runs it all the way down the field for the pretty much game-completing touchdown to end the game whatsoever.
Speaker 2:Ohio State defense played very well. They got to Quinn Ewers a lot, didn't allow him to really do too much and I think overall the defense played honestly a great game and they kept Texas from really doing anything. They couldn't run the football whatsoever. I think Texas ran the ball for like 58 yards in this game. Quinn Ewers didn't play terribly. He actually didn't play bad, he didn't play good. But again, I think was that because of Quinn Ewers, was that because of the defense? I'm not sure, but the way it worked out.
Speaker 2:Quinn Ewers 23 of 39, 283 yards, two touchdowns and a pick. He made plays when he had to. His wide receivers really didn't do all that much in this game. They were hurt and weren't playing well. Jaden Blue, their running back, was their leading receiver in this game. He had to the two touchdown catches but outside of that their offense really couldn't do much.
Speaker 2:And when Ohio State's defense truly needed it they got that play on the one yard line. They've been doing it all year and I'm not going to say here and like a lot of people, been talking about the coach and making that decision of doing the outside run play there on the second and goal. But I just think, with the way that Steve Sarkeesian has been looking at this defense all year, this Ohio State's been doing this, like many times throughout the year they have been in like first and goal on the one or two yard line and they have stopped anybody from scoring touchdowns. Ask Penn State, ask Michigan. That happened to them. Jack made a play on that in that game. That should have been a legendary play and it was taken away because Ohio State didn't finish the job.
Speaker 2:And in this game Jack got his chance to make another legendary play. He made it. Ohio State finished the job by winning the game and they are on to go play the national championship game. I'm not going to go all the way into that because we have another podcast before that game starts, but I just think my general consensus is that Ohio State offensively played their C game. Can Notre Dame do to Ohio State? Can they make it harder on Ohio State like Texas did? I don't think they can because, as great as their safeties are, they don't have the safeties Texas has. Notre Dame doesn't have the defensive line Texas has. I think Ohio State has played three different defenses that are better than Notre Dame's defense throughout this playoff so far.
Speaker 2:And Ohio State played the game where you thought they were going to lose. A lot of people thought Ohio State was going to give up that game and they managed to pull it out to win. This game feels a lot like OSU in 2014 when they went and faced Alabama in that first round of the playoff, in the first 14 playoff. Once they beat Bama, oregon seemed like nothing because they already slayed the dragon Right. I feel like this is an omen where Ohio State has already faced the dragons in their path to get here.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That Notre Dame doesn't feel like anything now. Yeah, I feel like we could have did this a month ago and had the same four fucking teams. You're not wrong.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to cap with you. I've been sitting around talking to people about it, thinking about it, and I sat back and I was like I gave not a fuck about one of these games except Oregon-Ohio State.
Speaker 2:And Ohio State didn't make that game look close.
Speaker 1:So what the fuck are we doing? We could have did this shit in two weeks.
Speaker 2:You're not wrong, but if they fix the thing, this shit is not as cool as I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 1:Let's go back to four teams. I've been told Fuck this.
Speaker 2:This is hilarious because I was the one that told you that there are not 12 teams that deserve to be national championship bound, and you were like but there's a chance, my nigga apparently, most years there's not more than two.
Speaker 1:So let's, I was telling you that Because if you would have beat Oregon, if you didn't beat Oregon, oregon's going to kick the shit out of Texas. Yeah, and then they would have kicked the shit out of Notre Dame or fucking Penn State.
Speaker 1:Yeah, georgia wasn't good this year, so it's the same shit we're doing every year. If Georgia wasn't good this year, so it's the same shit we're doing every year. If we're watching 1-3, go at it, because 1-3 also had whoever the fuck's in 2-4 in their conference, like I do every year. It's always two SEC teams, maybe two Big Ten teams or one Big Ten team in Notre Dame.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and again I will note Ohio.
Speaker 1:State's an 8 seed in this playoff. I know I'm seeding this, but that's the thing. I looked at this and my brain went I've seen this exact playoff yeah except penn state wouldn't be here yeah that's it.
Speaker 2:We're just swapping out that, that number four seed notre dame wouldn't have had a shot if not for the 12 team playoff based on the year that they had Agreed.
Speaker 1:but that's the thing, one and two are always going to be the same. One of them's usually going to be a Georgia, which they would have been, and one of them's going to be an Ohio.
Speaker 2:State, or an Oregon, or an Oregon right. Oregon would have been number one seed this year, but that's the thing.
Speaker 1:It was a 14 playoff Three and four are usually a revolving door.
Speaker 2:You're not wrong, it's probably Ohio State and then somebody else. That's how it's gone, and I think this year might be a little worse than others, but the fact that Boise and SMU made it, they weren't ever a thought to really win the whole thing.
Speaker 1:Boise, smu and Arizona State.
Speaker 2:Arizona State should have beat Texas, but again, again. Even if they did, were they going to beat?
Speaker 1:ohio state. They weren't. They were going to get, they were going to get drunk. That's the thing. They were good enough to beat texas because texas was that bad enough to let them win yeah, texas has not been consistent.
Speaker 2:Even though their talent is good enough to beat anybody, they haven't been consistent enough to beat any, to beat, to do the whole thing.
Speaker 1:That exactly, but there was was not one where I was like, yeah, some of you are going to make it out, no, no, for sure.
Speaker 2:No, you're not wrong, or the same with fucking Indiana Indiana had no shot.
Speaker 1:What the fuck are you doing here?
Speaker 2:How the?
Speaker 1:fuck, do you get in?
Speaker 2:Well, they did because they went 11-1 on the season and they did what they were supposed to do. That's great.
Speaker 1:Who did everybody bad but Ohio State. And they got drugged the one team that was better than you. Drug you through the fucking mud and then you struggled against like two other teams.
Speaker 2:And then they lost to Notre Dame pretty handedly when they got there.
Speaker 1:And Notre Dame is ass. I don't care what anybody says, notre Dame is not good.
Speaker 2:Notre Dame's defense is very good, but their offense is absolute garbage.
Speaker 1:That's great but they're not even the best defense in the fucking college football playoff.
Speaker 2:No, ohio State's it. That's what makes this crazy, I know, but that's the other thing. Ohio State losing to Michigan messed this whole playoff up.
Speaker 1:I don't even think Notre Dame's is like top three.
Speaker 2:No, I think it would be Ohio State, Texas, and then probably Oregon.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah, and and then I can make a case that Penn State's a better day in and day out than Notre Dame.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is.
Speaker 1:Because Penn State didn't lose to NIU.
Speaker 2:They have an Abdul Carter on their defense. That's probably going to be a top five pick in this year's draft.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:As great as Notre Dame's defense is, is anybody on their defense going to be a top ten pick? No, so, yes, I think Ohio State losing to Michigan kind of messed up this whole playoff, because Ohio State never should have been a nine seed, eight seed in the playoff. It should have never happened. But Ohio State lost to Michigan, still had a shot at getting to the playoff and they had to take the hardest road to go and get to this point. And they have and they've beat everybody that they've seen and it looks like they're about to be a national champion on Monday and again. Maybe some years will be better than others, but this year definitely wasn't the great start.
Speaker 1:I'm going to take Tuesday off. I'm not an Ohio State fan, but they're going to want me to work at 6 am, so I'm going to take Tuesday off, because the guy that does work at 6 am is an Ohio State fan that night. I don't want to go to work. I'm tired of fucking. I'm going to have to. I don't care about, I'm not going to watch the game. Yeah, probably not.
Speaker 2:Like.
Speaker 1:I don't care.
Speaker 2:I know. I think it also doesn't help that it looks like Ohio State's probably going to win this game pretty easily. I'm saying oh my, oh, my god, if you're going to lose this fucking game?
Speaker 1:I don't see it. I feel like if there was a game we were going to lose, it was going to be against Texas.
Speaker 2:It would have been against Oregon let's be honest no, because Oregon they had the hey we lost to you before. We want to get revenge.
Speaker 1:I know that's the thing it was never going to be Texas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I think Texas still made the game close. If we're talking about what people were saying of Ryan Day him being a choker, that was the game they lose. A game that was close in the fourth quarter that was what Sarkeesian was saying is hey, if we can get to the fourth quarter and make this game a close game, we have a chance. And all of that happened. It went exactly how Texas wanted it and Ohio State finished the job. So if the game like that went Ohio State's way, still I don't see what Notre Dame can do to make the game any worse than what Texas did. And do you really see two games in a row where Jeremiah Smith is limited the way he was? No, like Notre Dame's defense is good.
Speaker 1:Well, maybe they did run two DBs and a safety in a fucking bracket.
Speaker 2:Over him. The whole game Legit. I saw a picture. It was DB and a safety in a fucking bracket Over him.
Speaker 1:The whole game Legit. I saw a picture. It was DB, db safety, like they're all.
Speaker 2:Oh, they're rolling coverage towards him, Like they made sure that nobody was going to cut.
Speaker 1:No one is more than five yards away from him. At any point he had a zero catch radius. There's nowhere to go.
Speaker 2:And here's the caveat, notre Dame has played the most man of any team in all of college football this year Also real fast. You under-involved your other two receivers. Carnell Tate was the leading receiver in this game. He had nine targets, eight receptions, he's like 78 yards.
Speaker 1:Again, you under-involved your other two receivers. Oh, all year no just in this game you have three dedicated people. They had to have been running five DB sets. That is the only way that works.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they were running two safeties deep at all times, so there really wasn't a lot of room to do anything. Okay, so they'd be running two safeties. What?
Speaker 1:Three DBs, two safeties, three DBs, two linebackers, two linebackers, yes, okay, so OSU was running three wide receivers, a tight end and a running back. Yes, meaning you would have always had a slot receiver either on a linebacker, because they weren't always running a linebacker, they'd be throwing in a D-end, which is why Carnell Tate has no, they were throwing in a slot.
Speaker 2:DB Exactly, which is why Carnell Tate has so many Right and he's too good, he's too good, and Emeka had a good amount of yardage too, because he knows how to play in his own defense. Agreed, and that's something Jeremiah Smith probably still needs to learn. He's only 19 years old still, so maybe he needs to learn how to play against his own a little better.
Speaker 1:There was too many teenage receivers that were fucking eating this year Right. One dude from.
Speaker 2:Alabama.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don. What is his name? That's not important. Uh but he was another one. He was also very good. He was more Jamar Chase-like. Yes, Uh very. Him and Jamar Chase are very one-for-one.
Speaker 2:It's like he's ice skating on a football field.
Speaker 1:That's how, like jeremiah smith physical monster 6, 4, 225. It's smooth. Uh, I, I legit it's nfl's comparison is going to be jamar chase.
Speaker 2:Yes, because the size, the build, the play. I think he's actually a little smaller than jamar chase I think he is too.
Speaker 1:Jamar chase is six foot one. Yeah, uh, he's probably like 5 11 yeah, but he's definitely faster. But yeah, he is effortless effort, effortless, speed Dude Also, we had talked about it. I didn't realize how fast Jamar Chase was until I watched it was his first year. I watched him just right by a dude.
Speaker 2:Ryan Williams is his name, by the way I knew it was Williams, but I didn't watch it, I didn't care. I know Again, it doesn't give you any joy to watch Ohio State win because you know you hate me.
Speaker 1:My team didn't make a bowl game dude. I stopped caring about college football a month and a half ago.
Speaker 2:You guys took a lineman from us, by the way. We were trying to get a lineman to transfer to us and he didn't even visit. He ended up just committing straight to Michigan.
Speaker 1:Does that make Aiden Chalice still better?
Speaker 2:If you get him more protection. I would sure like to think so.
Speaker 1:Did you see his intercept? All 19 of them. I did.
Speaker 2:It's not good. It's not good.
Speaker 1:Seven of them came from where he was sitting in the pocket. Yes, not even close to receiver. I mean he is colluding. He has to be getting NIL money from the school. Not even close to the receiver. I mean he is colluding. He has to be getting NIL money from the school because he's throwing them straight to your DB.
Speaker 2:He's not even getting close to the receiver.
Speaker 1:And we had a decent receiver. I can't remember his name. Nick Marsh. He was very good Freshman, true freshman he was very fucking good.
Speaker 2:He would be the talk of the town if Jeremiah Smith didn't exist.
Speaker 1:Because he had 1,100 yards. He was great. He had all the receiving touchdowns for our team. My bad, Our tight end, who was also very good. He was better at Oregon State because he had a I wouldn't say a better quarterback. I'd say DJ Oong can hit a fucking short route.
Speaker 2:True, even though he's not that great either.
Speaker 1:Fucking, I'm not gonna cap. You bought the wrong quarterback. Uh, because if at least you could tell dj hey, you not good, throw the short route he's humbled a little bit because he hasn't been good. Yes, angel's like no, I can't hit that and then sells it by 13 fucking yards and I'm like bro, yeah, bro, please he was what you've seen those plays.
Speaker 1:You watched it against boston college dude was wide the fuck open. We were in the car right after andrew salt. Show this guy's wide the fuck open and he sails it yeah, you're not wrong and not even like a short sail, like not even close. He wasn't even close. No fuck, I don't close. No fuck, I don't, dude, he's not good. You can't give me 19 interceptions and be like but he's good. Oh, go, be good for somewhere else. Bowling Green needs a quarterback. That's not going to happen. Get the fuck out of here, dude.
Speaker 2:It looks like they're locked in. So they're just going to try to get better around him and hopefully he can take his chances of having his time to be a better quarterback, and that's all you can hope for. Look, I don't know, Ohio State looks like they're on a run. They're on a magical run right now and I think I truly think Kyle McCord would be a better quarterback.
Speaker 1:He'd be average.
Speaker 2:He's going to the NFL, by the way. No, he's not.
Speaker 1:Yes, he is. He announced he's going to the.
Speaker 2:NFL, by the way. No, he's not. Yes, he is. He announced he's going to the NFL.
Speaker 1:No, he's not.
Speaker 2:Sorry. He declared for the NFL draft. That's what he did. He's going to get drafted by somebody.
Speaker 1:There's no doubt. Yeah, the Browns.
Speaker 2:That would be so funny.
Speaker 1:He's not good enough to throw in, but we could throw him in there and him be ass Actually that did not happen.
Speaker 2:The Browns would probably take a quarterback because they're at two.
Speaker 1:They restructured the dues contract. Yes but he tore his ACL again. Oh, did you not see?
Speaker 2:Sorry, he tore his Achilles again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, there is a video of him after he re-tore it a week later walking around.
Speaker 2:Not in the boot.
Speaker 1:Not in the boot, at the beach In pants, dancing with his girlfriend.
Speaker 2:They were saying that he, how does he have a girlfriend?
Speaker 1:That's Money talks, I guess I think she's his wife.
Speaker 2:No, sorry, or engaged or something, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Oh, money must really talk I don't know, guaranteed.
Speaker 2:Apparently they were like oh, a Browns fan I was talking to.
Speaker 1:You told me I'm like they would have to prove that he was very negligent and not doing the right thing. Just cut your losses.
Speaker 2:Just cut your losses pay the man and just dude. No one wants him to play forget.
Speaker 1:The money exists. No one wants him to play. There's no way that the team don't like him. The team likes fucking Jameis, jameis is great.
Speaker 2:GTR clearly ain't it right for sure he is clearly not it. Well, yeah, no matter if y'all were trying to lose or not.
Speaker 1:y'all knew Jameis was too good to he could win you a game, so you gotta throw DTR in there. But if you're either Shador or if you're Cam Ward, cam Ward, I'm going back to college.
Speaker 2:I'm going back. I'm not going to have a chance.
Speaker 1:Cam Ward has a better chance of getting selected at number one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because he doesn't come with the storm of bullshit, oh my.
Speaker 1:God, who is number one Titans? Yeah, cam Ward is the perfect fit. Looks like Steve McNair. That's the Vikings, warren Moon.
Speaker 2:No, Steve McNair played for the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1:No, moon. No, steve mcnerr played for the tennessee titans. No, warren moon played for the tennessee titans.
Speaker 2:He my bad warren moon played for the houston oilers, houston oilers, yeah. But yeah, steve mcnerr was the vikings quarterback yeah, dang, I just gotta hope not to be taken by the browns man. You just can't, you just can't. And now everybody's talking about hey, maybe there's not like chador, maybe isn't a first round pick and I and I'm like in most drafts he wouldn't be. But you know, this is a weak draft. So this draft is when it comes to quarterbacks, very weak.
Speaker 1:Weak is an understatement. Yeah, because Travis Hunter ain't no top-five pick.
Speaker 2:Yes, he is.
Speaker 1:On what, based on what you've seen? On what Based on what you've seen, who's the best receiver he's faced?
Speaker 2:You're not wrong.
Speaker 1:Name a DB, he's faced. Name a DB he's faced.
Speaker 2:I would say at corner. I think he is dominating in a way.
Speaker 1:That's actually that's worth being a top five pick, even if it was against lesser receivers. Yo yo, yo, yo yo yo yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo yo yo. Who are the top five teams? Give me the top five teams and I'll give you some receivers. You'd have to face that very year.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, for sure, yeah, no, he wouldn't be able to do that.
Speaker 1:You don't want to be in the AFC? There's nothing for you over here, bro yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1:You don't want to fuck around and be in the NFC. The NFC has great players. There is no receiver he can cover. He's not that good. I think it's cool he plays both sides of the ball and everybody is fascinated by that, but I don't actually think he's that good.
Speaker 2:I'm going to give him a little credit.
Speaker 1:I think he is, I think his recruiting class was also weak as fuck.
Speaker 2:The recruiting class really doesn't matter, because he ended up going to Jackson State his first year.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Jackson.
Speaker 1:State.
Speaker 2:And his second year. He was there for two years.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, because he did the last two years at Colorado State. So who the fuck have you played? It's just cool, you play both sides of the ball. Is he a top five? Is Top five pick DB Fuck no, is it sad that?
Speaker 2:I think if maybe he put all this time in one of those positions, he probably could have been.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but we don't know. You're not that good, because if the only legit, the only reason why Colorado works for him is because you're not playing, no one good enough.
Speaker 2:Right, you can play both sides. They're in the Big 12, yes, oh, you can't do that shit in the SEC. He would have to pick a side and stick to it if he actually wanted to be of note, bro, you couldn't do that shit in the ACC. You're not wrong, let alone the Big 10. I agree.
Speaker 1:Dude, that's what I'm saying. You are just more athletic than the people around you, Right? If you went to one of the big three conferences?
Speaker 2:you average, They'd make you choose Like there is no doing this, playing this game.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:They would just say hey, you got to pick a side and be the best you can be, Because we think you can be one of the best if you pick a side.
Speaker 1:Just make sure it's not receiver, because you don't have any fluid movement. You were just athletic as fuck. Let's be honest. He don't run routes. He don't do shit, he's. I'm more athletic.
Speaker 2:I think his sudden, his sudden athleticism makes it more towards his better corner.
Speaker 1:But you know he ain't fast.
Speaker 2:No, he's. He's decently fast. I think he'll run a 4.2.
Speaker 1:Mm.
Speaker 2:No, sorry, not a 4.2. He's probably running like a 4.3.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:Like a high 4th, like a 4-3-8, something like that.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:But he's not blazing. I agree he's not. How did we get from Ohio State potentially winning the national championship to this? I don't know how we got there. I know I'll talk a little more about that on the next podcast. Let's go ahead and talk about the NFL had a super wild card weekend that happened, so let's go ahead and get into that. Oh, and coach stuff too. Coaching news Sorry, frable is the coach of the Patriots. That's crazy. That's awesome, real quick.
Speaker 1:Fuck you, I don't care about that. Travis Hunter is that fucking good? I'm sorry, no one's been listening to me. I don't care about that. Is he Travis Hunter? Is that fucking good? I'm sorry, no one's been listening to me. I don't think he's that fucking good. Can he cover Jamar Chase? Fuck no. Can he cover Justin Jefferson? Fuck no. Can he cover Brian Thomas Jr?
Speaker 2:Fuck no.
Speaker 1:That nigga couldn't cover Drake London. You know why, travis. Hunter is skinny as fuck.
Speaker 2:No, he's small. No, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1:Drake London ain't fast at all. Do you know who Drake?
Speaker 2:London is.
Speaker 1:He'll big body him. Fuck. No, he can't cover Omar St Brown. Omar St Brown would torch his ass Not even torch his ass, out-physical him, and they're probably about the same size.
Speaker 2:He can cover Jerry Judy. You were just nice to Jerry Judy last podcast Never again, never again.
Speaker 1:He couldn't cover Malik Neighbors, he couldn't go. Cd Lamb Fucking my bad, fuck my bad. Brock Bowers on the top receiving list my bad.
Speaker 2:But that's a no too. He'd never be asked to, but that's a no.
Speaker 1:He couldn't cover Ladd McConkie. Ladd McConkie would route him the fuck up. That'd be close though Ladd McConkie would route him the fuck up. That'd be close though Ladin McConkie would route him the fuck up. Fuck you mean. Fuck you mean you watched it all year. Ladin McConkie would have to be like I watched him tear apart Patrick Sertain, and Patrick Sertain was the number one DB all year.
Speaker 2:The question is which Herbo are you going to get? Are you going to get regular season Herbo, or or are you going to get playoff Herbo?
Speaker 1:Because there's a difference. It'd be regular season. Whatever team Travis Hunter is going to, y'all ain't making no fucking playoff with him, especially out of no damn receiver. Couldn't cover JSN, if you fucking tried. Couldn't cover Garrett Wilson. Couldn't cover Scary Terry. Aj Brown, devonta there ain't a nigga on this list he can cover properly my bad Calvin Ridley. He could cover Calvin Ridley. Uh, he could not cover T Higgins.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Big body, the fuck at you.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:He couldn't cover if George Pickens had a good night. Couldn't cover George Pickens. Who knows if that's ever going to happen again. Couldn't cover George Addison. Couldn't cover Justin Reed Devonta.
Speaker 2:Smith how long, how far. He was fast enough to cover Jalen Waddle.
Speaker 1:He could not cover Roma Doomsday. Roma Doomsday didn't have a great year because DJ Moore, fucking Keenan Allen yeah, I'm only going to have 700 yards Couldn't cover Puga Nakua. Couldn't cover DJ Moore. Go ahead, you can cover Puga Nakua. No, all right, I've named 25 receivers.
Speaker 2:You won't have to face one of them. I just want to talk about a few head coaching things real quick and then we can talk about the playoff games.
Speaker 1:Fuck Travis aren't that fucking good. I ain't going to watch your girl get bent and still stay with her.
Speaker 2:You trash man my boy.
Speaker 1:On video. You wait in the car, you let those men little bro you, yeah bro. You may look like a snapping turtle, but but damn, it ain't that hard out here.
Speaker 2:Look, I just want to talk about coaching positions, that's it. I just want to talk about that. I have one question. I just have this little thing to bring up to you.
Speaker 1:Don't marry that girl.
Speaker 2:I hope not. Maybe he loves her.
Speaker 1:She don't love you.
Speaker 2:She don't want to be saved. Patriots got rid of Bill Belichick two years ago, right. Yeah. Decided to go with Gerard Mayo last year, a new head coach that has been under their regime. That's a new head coach, right? So they're like oh, we want to take back control of our team. Bring in a guy that knows, does not know what he's doing whatsoever. He's never been a head coach anywhere, has only been a position coach in the NFL. They go through last year and don't like what they see. Obviously, I don't think they really expected to win a lot of games this year. They had a rookie quarterback and all of that.
Speaker 2:You had no team, true, and they have no team, but now they have gone back and hired Mike Vrabel to be their head coach. They're going back to what Belichick was. They spent all that time blaming Bill Belichick for them not playing well. They acted like they wanted their team back and they wanted to have control, and they went right back to what they were with Bill Belichick. I think Vrabel is just a new age version of what Bill Belichick is.
Speaker 2:I agree he's a new age version of what Bill Belichick is. I agree he's as a new he was. He's a more liked version by the players than what Bill Belichick was and a better drafter no, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:So now I'm sitting here thinking like they should apologize to Bill Belichick for what they did to him, because they made him out to be the problem. They made him out to be the reason that the whole Tom Brady thing went sour they made it out to be. Why they're bad is because Bill Belichick stopped being able to draft and he took them down into the tank.
Speaker 1:Or y'all were not that great of an organization to begin with.
Speaker 2:And he gave you guys relevancy and he gave you guys a winner for so many years and it was all cool. And then, as soon as Bill Belichick started to drop down a little bit and y'all had to do your jobs, you're like, oh, we need to get this guy out of here. We want control of our team back. But now you've had one year where you had a guy that they claimed that Mayo was their guy. They chose him years in advance, so why in the hell, after one year, have you given up on that guy if you believed him in the first place?
Speaker 2:I think they look like oh, I want to go back to just being owner again, mr Bobcraft. I want to be back to just being an owner and going to get happy endings at a nice little massage parlor over here, and I just want to do that again. And they're going back to hire Mick Vrabel. I think Vrabel is going to be a great pick. He's awesome. He made it work with the Tennessee Titans and I think he's a very good head coach. He's one of the best head coaches out there in the NFL. That's a good pick. But I just think, philosophy-wise, they need to apologize to Bill Belichick, because that's what they got rid of in the first place.
Speaker 1:And now they're going right back. You got the same shit, it's just different. It's the same thing, it's just different. He's a little younger but he's a defensive head coach. He did all the drafting for the Titans.
Speaker 2:That was why it stopped going well, because they hired a new GM and him and the GM didn't work well. So they fired Braybill and kept the GM. And guess what, funny enough, titans then fired the GM this year and now they're hiring a new GM and keeping the head coach they had. They had this last year, callahan, I believe, the former offensive head coach for you guys. I just wanted to mention that because I'm like it's a very funny thing.
Speaker 1:Thank God he wasn't calling plays to the Bengals because he's worse than Zach Taylor. He was out there like, yeah, fucking Will Levis is the guy. That dude had brain damage. Never let him near the Bengals again.
Speaker 2:Again me and you were questioning his decision making when he came out of college.
Speaker 1:So, like the fact that he it was the mayo and the coffee, the mayo and the coffee.
Speaker 2:No, he makes poor decisions, poor decisions as soon as we heard that, we were like he's not going to make it in the NFL. That's a terrible decision. Why would he ever?
Speaker 1:Terrible decision. What made you choose?
Speaker 2:that.
Speaker 1:What led you to that one day? Because that's not. Oh, I mistaked it for coffee creamer.
Speaker 2:Right, that was a conscious decision. Yes.
Speaker 1:And he's only going to throw a shit ton of interceptions.
Speaker 2:And he's only proven that to be the case throughout his whole quarterback career.
Speaker 1:Yes, for sure, the whole quarterback class.
Speaker 2:For sure, but yeah, I just want to mention that Also. Who else got hired? The GM hasn't really got hired yet. Apparently the no, there's nobody else got hired yet.
Speaker 1:As apparently the no, there's nobody else got hired yet as of right now.
Speaker 2:So, yes, I just want to. Oh, cowboys coach got fired. Oh yes, mccarthy, they did him dirty because not only did they not let him, because he was getting like they, multiple teams asked to interview him and the cowboys said no, because they still had exclusive rights to try to negotiate a deal, and apparently the reason why it all fell out was because Mike McCarthy wanted more guaranteed years on his contract and the Cowboys only wanted to give him like a one-year guaranteed deal. But here's the problem you waited so long, ben Johnson. You didn't have an opportunity to. He's like the hottest offensive coordinator. You didn't have an opportunity to interview him because he's still working with the Lions right now and you didn't have a chance to for the Lions DC. You didn't have a chance to interview him, like. There were other guys that you had a chance to interview that you didn't, because you played around with Mike McCarthy for so long.
Speaker 2:So I truly believe they wanted to keep Mike McCarthy around. But I just think Mike McCarthy finally grew some balls and decided hey, I'm not going to sit here and just be your play toy for another year. I want more guaranteed years and more guaranteed money. So if I get fired. You have to pay me out, and I think Jerry Jones finally got a little getting over his head and was not willing to give that up. And now Mike McCarthy is going to try to go out and try to get a head coaching job somewhere else. He's now a free agent.
Speaker 2:I guess he can always go back to the Cowboys if he doesn't get a get the the deal he wants from somebody else. Don't do that to yourself. But here's the thing who in the hell wants to really like? I get Mike McCarthy had a little bit of a renaissance. He's last few games with the Cowboys where they won a few games they probably shouldn't have. But like I don't think Michael is that great of a head coach he's a better offensive coordinator even then, I don't think he's like a.
Speaker 2:He's like a up-to-date off the coordinator. I think he really runs the same offense he was running 15 years ago with Aaron Rodgers. So I'm like, do I really think he's? But again, I think he's probably better than some of the bad coaches, head coaches that have been with other jobs, so like maybe he's just a one of those stopgap head coaches that can give get you up to a certain point but not really get you to championship winning caliber. Maybe that's like a step up for some of these very bad teams, but it's a very bad moment and I just think He'd be great for the Bengals.
Speaker 2:I think you're saying he'd be great for the Bengals Because him and Zach Taylor are the same fucking coach. This is a pit stop-ass coach, it's not that far off, you're not wrong. I actually like that comparison.
Speaker 1:We are good enough to go get an actual coach. Ben johnson's should have been on our on our list. I don't understand what about the bangles offense? Doesn't he look at like I can do some bullshit with that?
Speaker 2:they even asked to, they didn't ask again. They still have. They still have zach taylor. So like how the fuck is that pop? Why the?
Speaker 1:fuck zach taylor. He has a job, he. He can still live in Cincinnati comfortably. Somebody doesn't burn his shit down.
Speaker 2:Apparently they don't want to fire him and have to pay him out just to not coach for them, because you know, pay him out what.
Speaker 1:This is the last year of his contract.
Speaker 2:This next year is last year.
Speaker 1:If no, this is it. He got signed the same year Joe Burrow got signed.
Speaker 2:I want to check that real quick just to make sure Zach Taylor's contract no through 26. Yeah, so next year's his next year? Fuck that.
Speaker 1:Fire this stupid nigga.
Speaker 2:No, it's two more years on his contract.
Speaker 1:They extended his shit. He signed an extension in 2022. Yeah, he did After the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Biggest mistake they ever made. So now they don't want to pay him out for two years of him not actually working for them.
Speaker 1:Joe Burrow is going to be 28 years old. We can't do this shit. Fire this stupid nigga you're going to waste his prime if you fire Luna Rumo and we go out there and we're still ass, we still lose that many games. Jake Browning and Joe Burrow win the same amount of games.
Speaker 2:That ain't a fucking problem to somebody and here's my problem how do you expect to get better defensively next year? You're not probably not going to have Hendrickson, he's a free agent who the fuck have you signed, buddy?
Speaker 1:what are?
Speaker 2:we doing so. You fired the defense coordinator, who really wasn't his fault, and then you're letting some of the better players on your team walk. So how do you expect your defense coordinator, who really wasn't his fault, and then you're letting some of the better players on your team walk, so how do you expect your defense to get better?
Speaker 1:You're letting Pratt walk, who's older but still very serviceable. You're letting Trey Anderson walk. After 17 sacks we still have no secondary. He was the only thing on our front. Seven Logan Wilson is still hurt for the foreseeable future.
Speaker 2:And Jordan Battle. And Jordan Battle is probably your best defense player.
Speaker 1:And Jordan Battle who no one can fucking teach anything, because who the fuck is he supposed to learn from Geno Stone? Stupid ass. I want him gone too. Cut him right now. He don't do shit Besides let up the deep ball. I fucking watched it, him and fucking Mike Williams, dude, mike Williams ain't got no legs. He has 37 injuries on both knees. What do you mean? I'm sorry, I just don't understand.
Speaker 2:That thing. It makes sense now why they won't give him a Zach Taylor because they don't want to pay him out for the next two years of him not coaching. That makes total sense. No for sure it's bad. How much is it? Huh? How much is his contract?
Speaker 1:$4.5 million per season.
Speaker 2:So they don't want to pay him $9 million to not coach for their team for two years Because let's be honest he won't get hired by somebody else. He's a terrible offense coordinator and he'll be sitting on the beach for two years because he wants to get every single dime.
Speaker 1:You guys, you guys, you guys. You're not paying anybody else. Just give him his $9 million. Tell him to go fuck off. Don't even give it to him per year. Give him $9 million, tell him to go fuck off.
Speaker 2:They won't do it. Owner's a penny pincher man.
Speaker 1:I can't wait until he fucking dies. I genuinely believe that we are going to be in this eternal fucking cycle of mediocrity.
Speaker 2:That's something you and Bengals fans and Cowboys fans can agree on, Because Jerry Jones, as long as he's alive, he's going to run the team the way he wants to run it. They're waiting for him to die too, so their team can get back to being a running football team.
Speaker 1:Duel, you're the same shit. You won't fire your head coach either.
Speaker 2:Well, the Steelers, yeah, but I think we'll get to that. We'll get to that.
Speaker 1:I can't do this. I can't sit here. We draft number one overall quarterback. He's phenomenal. We give him a great offense and a shitty defense.
Speaker 2:Oh, great offense. No offensive line for a bit, and that was your Achilles heel that kept you from a Super Bowl. We gave him an offensive line this year.
Speaker 2:Then you finally gave him an offensive line, but the defense goes to crap. So now that's your Achilles heel and now your defense. What is left of your defense that's still the only pieces that are only going to be any good are probably going to walk now, and now you're gonna have to try to rebuild that and get a new defense coordinator and then resign most of your offense and then lose t higgins because, oh, orlando brown, another contract either, by the way, and orlando brown's gonna walk it's.
Speaker 2:He was good, he won like he was bad memes can't play left tackle no, he's a little too heavy, a foot as a right tackle.
Speaker 1:He's a great fucking right tackle. Do not put my left tackle right tackle. Do not put him at left tackle. From everything I've seen of him, he struggles with faster guys. That's why Nick Herbig got around him, because Nick Herbig was very fast and very small. Well, he's like 6'1" 6'2". He's smaller for a defensive end, Right, but he was very fast and got around him. Same shit Khalil Mack did fucking pushed around his ass. Yeah, because he big, he's slow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he has slow feet, man, but he's very big.
Speaker 1:But it's just, you have to be a little bit more feather-footed at left, tackle or push his ass to guard, because he may be a great fucking guard.
Speaker 2:He'd be a waste at guard. He's too big, you have to have him at tackle. I know, but there'd be no, because then you have no good tackle, then if you kick him into guard, dude, I don't and you can't use a first round pick on an offensive player in this draft. You have to go defense Because you literally have nobody left.
Speaker 1:What defensive player is there in the first round?
Speaker 2:At pick 17. Again, all of that kind of develops my bad their pick 14.
Speaker 1:What defensive player.
Speaker 2:All of that will develop long term. What are the?
Speaker 1:best defensive players coming out.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I haven't really looked.
Speaker 1:At 14? Pick 14. The fuck they gonna pick it. My bad, they're like pick 16.
Speaker 2:Fuck, they gonna pick it 16. Do you?
Speaker 1:want me to look at a draft board? Yes, I'll look at a draft board.
Speaker 2:You continue on. Okay, I wanted to talk about the playoff games that happened this past weekend, because this weekend was an absolute in one perspective, was a great weekend for me in the other respect it wasn't in that other respect as the Steelers, but I'll get to that in a second. First game that happened was, uh, saturday, yep, middle of the day, chargers, texans played and Texans won the game 32-12. I think this one might be. The first big takeaway coming out of this game was that Herbo has a fraud inside of him.
Speaker 1:They have us taking Prince Lee his last name.
Speaker 2:Prince Lee.
Speaker 1:Prince Lee Fromely, princely From where.
Speaker 2:Ole Miss. A defensive player I'm guessing he's a defensive end oh he's good, no, he's good, no, he's good. This is according to who. What side is this CBS?
Speaker 1:Sports.
Speaker 2:Not bad, okay.
Speaker 1:Two picks later there's Ashton Gentry. I Not that Okay. Two picks later there's Ash and Jenty. I'd prefer that yeah, but you, this nigga had no sacks. Fuck, you mean, I have another Myles Murphy, no.
Speaker 2:But Murphy was actually a defensive tackle. He was not an end At Clemson, he was like a D tackle. No, at Clemson he was a D end. Well, he wasn't good at D-end.
Speaker 1:No, he did, I know, I know, I know, I know he can't play DT either because he's too small. A tweener. This dude played 11 games, zero tackles, zero sacks.
Speaker 2:Zero.
Speaker 1:Donut. He's supposed to replace Trey Hendrickson. His comparison is Zedaria Smith.
Speaker 2:That's not bad.
Speaker 1:How many sacks does Zedaria Smith have? Was it more or less than 17? Because that's the number that we need to be at 9-8.
Speaker 2:I think it's less.
Speaker 1:Oh, everyone was less.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you're going to have to draft three or four defensive players to add to that team, because you'll have nobody outside of battle.
Speaker 1:Shador Sanders was crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably In the first half the Chargers really had, like, honestly, took control of this game for the most part from the first quarter, pretty much most of the way through the second.
Speaker 1:Somebody else has taken Derek Harmon. Good defensive tackle he of the way through the second.
Speaker 2:Somebody else has us taking Derek Harmon Good defensive tackle. He was very good for the Oregon.
Speaker 1:I actually prefer that more. I would still prefer Ashton Denty.
Speaker 2:And he's a Michigan State player. So former Michigan State player, yes, so that gives you a little plus too.
Speaker 1:They have the Chargers taking Emeka Ibuka.
Speaker 2:Oh, don't do that to me. I'm hoping for the Steelers to take him. We need more of them.
Speaker 1:Where do you pick?
Speaker 2:at. We're probably around 18, if I had to guess.
Speaker 1:You're 22, you're not taking shit worthwhile. They have you taking a tackle from West Virginia, wyatt Millum. We just took a tackle from West Virginia, wyatt Millam.
Speaker 2:We just took a tackle Was he good. He didn't play because he got hurt literally before the season even started.
Speaker 1:We'll barely meet another one.
Speaker 2:Faltano yeah, he got hurt before the season even started, like he didn't even play. Oh God, no.
Speaker 1:They have. Ashton Genting going 12-2.
Speaker 2:The Cowboys. Yeah, that sounds about right. That'll fix our problems. Probably doesn't, but you know the Cowboys love flash. Chargers had control of this game. They were up 6-0 up until like let's see, 58 seconds left in the second quarter where the Texans got a touchdown from Nico Collins. They managed to have a 13-play, 99-yard drive and then I think the Chargers went three and out on their next drive and then the Houston Texans ended up getting the ball again, having a five-play, 45-yard drive and getting a field goal there to go up 10-6 at halftime and getting a field goal there to go up 10-6 at halftime. So this is where, in this game, herbert had four interceptions.
Speaker 1:And I think he had Jack's the worst first-round pick.
Speaker 2:Probably he's like a late first-round pick, but yeah, most legit four-list.
Speaker 1:have him going at 32 to the Lions. Dang that would make them scary. That makes a whole lot of sense, though, putting next to Aiden Hutchinson Other side yeah, I would like Jack Sawyer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably 17 though. That'd be a little high, a little rich.
Speaker 1:We drafted Sam Hubbard at 12, you're not wrong, I think I'll take that. Sorry, I just. There's no hope for football, I don't care. We drafted Sam Hubbard at 12. You're not wrong, I think I'll take that. Sorry, I just. There's no hope for football, I don't care.
Speaker 2:I feel the same way in a certain respect. You're in a I know best thing, you're not wasting. We don't have a star player, we're wasting his prime. Yes, I'm very aware of how we are a little lacking at a certain position right now.
Speaker 1:I mean, you wasted Cam Harris' career. Does that count?
Speaker 2:And a good portion of TJ Watts as well. It doesn't make me feel great.
Speaker 1:Big donut of a Super Bowl. Yeah 13 years.
Speaker 2:So at halftime.
Speaker 1:I haven't won a playoff game in how long?
Speaker 2:Six years.
Speaker 1:When it's been longer than six dude.
Speaker 2:No, they're 0-6 in the last eight years. That's what it is. They haven't won a playoff game since 2016. Yeah, that's what it is. They're 0-6 in the past eight years. One and done, one and done, one and done in the last five. Ugh gross.
Speaker 1:So that means you had a first-round bye in three of them.
Speaker 2:No, we were just one and done.
Speaker 1:In the last five. That means you had a first-round bye in three.
Speaker 2:You did no because we were a first round, buy in three you did. No, because we were first round exit. There was one where we had two playoff wins in one year. That was when we ended up losing to Jacksonville in the divisional round. That was with one of the last years of one great year, one of the last great years of Ben. We ended up losing that second round to the Jacksonville Jaguars. That's what it was. That was before Trevor Lawrence. That was when they had freaking.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't even know who.
Speaker 2:I don't know who it is.
Speaker 1:Who was the quarterback for the Jaguars before Trevor Lawrence?
Speaker 2:Because they had that one great year where they were very good, Because they still had what's his face? The corner that was great Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh 2017.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was bad. Yeah, we got beat up on too. The game wasn't even close. So generally in this game, I'm trying to stay on topic To the Houston and Chargers game.
Speaker 1:Blake Bortles. Holy shit, leonard Fournette.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll get to the Steelers in a second. We get to the Chargers and the Houston. I just want to keep calling Herbo A fraud.
Speaker 1:And Calais Campbell with 14 sacks. Damn, this team was good as fuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was a very good team.
Speaker 1:No, they weren't. They were like mid as fuck. Their highest receiver had 748 yards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they ran the football a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, literally, for now Did have a clean thousand.
Speaker 2:So I just wanted to talk about how good he's, how good houston looked in this game. Their defense was awesome. They made they had, I think, herbo through like two pick sixes. Yes, real quick.
Speaker 1:Did houston look great, or did the starking thing of I have no receivers finally hit the chargers?
Speaker 2:it wasn't the receivers, it was herbo.
Speaker 1:I watched Quentin Johnson drop a couple.
Speaker 2:True, but Herbo threw four picks in this game.
Speaker 1:He threw more picks in one game than he had all season.
Speaker 2:So they put the ball in his hands to go and then win them the game and he made a lot of big mistakes, including I think it was one pick six. One of those wasn't his fault, but the rest of them were. I think Houston was playing terribly. In the first half their offense really wasn't doing much, but they allowed CJ Stroud to heat up in this game. He ended up throwing for almost 300 yards. He had a touchdown and a pick.
Speaker 2:The Chargers could have had this game tied up at halftime. They could have put it in a bow. It was a present ready to go but they didn't. They let Houston stick around and their defense finally started doing things in the second half and they started dominating the game. They had two blocked kicks in this game. Like Houston managed to. Their defense with Derek Stingley, had a pick. He had two picks in this game. He was awesome. I think the Chargers, if they were better offensively, I think if Herbo would have just played how he usually does, think about what have been his last two playoff games that he's played in. It's this one where they lose terribly to the Houston and the last one where they were up 27-0 against the Jaguars and they let Trevor Lawrence and them come back in that game and win the game so as great as herbo is, as talented as he is, I think he has a fraud under the surface of all that great talent that he has somebody I think it was nick.
Speaker 2:I was like nick wright or something like that. He compared him to baker mayfield. He said that if justin herbert had the intangibles of a Baker Mayfield, he would be challenging Mahomes to be the best quarterback in the NFL, while if Baker Mayfield had the intangibles of Justin Herbert, baker Mayfield wouldn't have even played college football because he was lacking of the physical talents. But it's all the intangible stuff that made him a good college quarterback and now made him where he's a decent NFL quarterback. There is room to actually start questioning that about just Herbert. Now. He has a good head coach. He has a defense. His defense is good.
Speaker 1:They weren't in that game.
Speaker 2:They weren't in that game. But again, it wasn't like Houston destroyed them. It was Houston's defense that really took control of this game agreed and they allowed cj stroud to make a couple big plays.
Speaker 2:Cj stroud woke in this game like his offensive line still wasn't getting helping him out a lot but he was going to make big plays down the field in the one where he had to like roll out to the right and he managed to like a 40 yard pass and like them right in the middle of the field. That is what CJ Stroud was last year and I think if he starts heating up like that, I think this Houston team can be very scary if that defense keeps playing like they are. But again, la should have won this game. They were a favorite and they managed to lose this game and they didn't look good. And I think this one Herbo can't blame on anybody but himself. He can't blame the talent around him. He had enough. He had enough of everything and he played terribly. He had a defense. He probably needs another wide receiver or so another two dude.
Speaker 1:Who is his third receiver?
Speaker 2:true, but even with what they had, they still had enough to beat houston dude?
Speaker 1:no, they didn't good. How'd they run the football? They didn't.
Speaker 2:He got stuffed that's true, no're not wrong.
Speaker 1:So he's forced to throw it. He has one good receiver, Quentin Johnson. How many targets?
Speaker 2:Quentin Johnson had five targets.
Speaker 1:How many receptions? Zero, oh.
Speaker 2:Lad had nine receptions, 197 yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1:Yes, because that's my only receiver, so he has his other receiver Go ahead. Who was his next highest receiver?
Speaker 2:Will Disley tight end Two receptions, 16 yards.
Speaker 1:Targets how many targets?
Speaker 2:Five.
Speaker 1:Oh, so he wasn't getting shit either. So he had legit. It was him and Ladd McConkie. He couldn't run the ball. None of his receivers could catch the ball. I have one guy. They're double teaming him. I have to throw it up to him because that's where all his picks came from. He was throwing it to Ladd. He was throwing it to no one else because there's no one else to throw it to. Those were his mistakes. Yes, they were interceptions. Those were on him. Yes, they were interceptions. Those were on him. Two of them were picks. That's cool. All of them were to try and throw the ball to Ladin McConkie. I have to force the ball to my only option, quentin Johnson. Ain't it? He can't catch he dropped three.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not wrong, I'll give you that.
Speaker 1:So you say the game is on him and it is.
Speaker 2:It is on him, it is say, the game is on him and it is.
Speaker 1:It is on him. It is, but he has to force the ball. It's the only person that's doing anything okay, yes, he can't, he can't do anything. Two things can be true at the same time, and I agree. But the fact that his run game also got stuffed means he was fucked from the start oh no, houston, they definitely dominated defensively.
Speaker 2:I'll give you that yes, for sure and houston was able to run the football in this game as well. They had 168 yards total rushing rushing. Cj Stroud had 42 yards rushing. In this game CJ Stroud is like again. Nobody's saying you're talking about how CJ Stroud has a bunch of weapons either. He's had Nico Collins and nobody else. Cj made it work. He made less mistakes.
Speaker 1:Who was the second receiver?
Speaker 2:Xavier Hutchinson One reception, 34 yards.
Speaker 1:How many yards did you mix in half?
Speaker 2:Had 106 yards rushing.
Speaker 1:Oh crazy. Dude, I don't even think. The rushing yards for the Chargers amounts to 100. 50. Dude, you immediately just debunked what you just said. Go ahead Read off his receivers. Yards Go ahead 122, 34, 28, 28, 23, 22, 13, 12.
Speaker 2:I heard of several 20s, quentin johnson at zero and that was his third best receiver.
Speaker 1:That was his sixth. Oh, who was his second best receiver?
Speaker 2:will disley in this game, the tight end oh how many?
Speaker 1:16 you named four receivers for a seeded shot that had 20.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, so it sounds like Jay Harbaugh had to force the ball to one dude Right and having to force the ball means you're going to make mistakes.
Speaker 2:True? Okay, I'll give that a guess.
Speaker 1:Having a defense that did jack shit. All game means, you have to even then throw the ball up more.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't say that because the defense did enough in the first half to where Houston wasn't doing anything.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh, and then what did Houston start doing?
Speaker 2:They C D Stroud, started heating up and they started being able to manufacture drives.
Speaker 1:And Jay Herbal kept having to try to force the ball to latin kanki to do something because no one else was.
Speaker 2:I can't run it there's no one else to throw to. I have one guy to throw it to, so he ends up making mistakes doing it.
Speaker 1:Oh, so is the game really on him or is the game on the fact that this team was never that good to begin with? Was this team always that bad? And it didn't show because they were able to scheme stuff and they were able to run the ball because their offense was based off running the football.
Speaker 2:Right and Houston stuffed it.
Speaker 1:We run the ball first and then we take care of those 18 to 20 times a game.
Speaker 2:And Herbo, in this game threw for 32. So, yes, the running game did not do anything and they had to put more on his shoulders.
Speaker 1:There was no one catching the ball, besides one dude, and Lyle McConkie, for what he was, didn't put the game on his shoulders.
Speaker 2:Right and he played well. Give me the ball.
Speaker 1:Let me do something with the rock and he did. Yeah, it's just no one else was.
Speaker 2:Maybe I have to get off the ledge a little bit. Maybe because I've held Herbo In such high regard, I've called him A top five quarterback Literally every year For the last three or four years.
Speaker 1:Ever since.
Speaker 2:That's the thing I still think you, I think he's a, he's a top five talent.
Speaker 1:But I think he's a top five quarterback. Name me of the top five quarterbacks Mahomes, better offense, burrow, come on.
Speaker 2:Allen.
Speaker 1:Dude.
Speaker 2:Dude, lamar Dude.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? Great running game?
Speaker 2:Great running game. Great running game, more support. Great running game.
Speaker 1:Great receivers, great receivers, great receivers, great head coach For what Harbaugh is.
Speaker 2:But Herbert had his moments where he had, when he lost, when he was up 27-0 against the Jaguars, he had all the receivers he had, like he had all the. He had the talent around him to do what they needed to do.
Speaker 1:Where was his defense? Does Herbert play defense?
Speaker 2:No, but they were up 27-0.
Speaker 1:He did nothing in the second half. Does Herbert play defense?
Speaker 2:They didn't score in the second half.
Speaker 1:He shouldn't have had to if his defense was doing his job.
Speaker 2:So you're saying scoring 27 points in one half and doing nothing in the second half, that nothing comes on you, you're telling me his defense did nothing to stop any of those points.
Speaker 1:Two things can be true at once.
Speaker 2:Two things can be true at once. His defense didn't do enough. But I also think if you got a 27 point lead in the first half, you should be able to at least score something in the second half to help your defense out. You got the lead in the first place. I just think it's okay to start questioning whether Herbert potentially has the dog inside of him?
Speaker 1:I don't think it is.
Speaker 2:Okay, and that's a difference of opinion. I'm more than happy to be okay with you having that opinion. It was just a thought that I have and maybe you maybe you jump. You brought me off the edge a little bit. When it comes to like automatically calling him trash, I just think it's more about the fact that he's so talented. He's like you don't want to see him have a game like that, you want to see him play better, and it didn't happen in.
Speaker 2:Texas took advantage of it and I have to give the credit to the Texans' defense. They played very well. They have a very good defense and if they play like this, I think they have a puncher's chance to go at least try to scare the Chiefs in the second round of the playoffs. But again, that's all implying that you know the offense for Houston is going to be able to keep CJ Stroud clean enough to be able to go out there and make plays offensively, which I'm not very confident in against the Chiefs defense. That is very, very good. So let's talk about the other three games.
Speaker 1:Herbo was sacked seven times in that game, all coming from the second half. So Bro was not upright. Bro threw 43 times 32. No, you're talking about the 2022 game, right? He was sacked 7 times in that game, all from the second half. Um, you want to know who his top receiver was. Who was that? Not Keenan Allen? Who was it? You want to know who his top receiver was. Who was that? Not Keenan Allen? Who was it? Everett? Oh, jared Everett.
Speaker 1:Yeah his tight end. Yeah, keenan Allen only played the first half and dropped more than half his passes. Guess who had the next most yards?
Speaker 2:I have no clue, palmer.
Speaker 1:Palmer, joshua Palmer. Yeah, how many yards did he get? Eight, dude. Two things can't be true at once. Right, you said that you did, joe, you did, you did, did, did, did, did, you totally did. Samuel Jr had three interceptions. Derwin James had one interception. They had four total interceptions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that was probably mostly in the first half.
Speaker 1:All in the first half, yes, so Herbo continued to play in the second half. His team did not. His team did not. His team did not. There ain't shit to question, okay. What there is to question is why the fuck is Quentin Johnstone on team. What there is to question is why the fuck didn't we?
Speaker 2:get another receiver.
Speaker 1:What there is to question is why the fuck is our defense mediocre as shit half the time?
Speaker 2:They were good most of the year, but you know.
Speaker 1:Until it got to the moment they had to be good. Yes, yeah, next.
Speaker 2:Steelers-Ravens. That was the Saturday night game. Ravens doubled up the Steelers 28-14.
Speaker 2:The game wasn't close. First half Ravens were up 21-0. Second half the Steelers tried to do something offensively Managed to score two touchdowns in the second half, one to Pickens. It was a big play to him. He finally did something. And then the other was a. What was the other touchdown? I want to make sure I have that right Box score, play-by-play scoring. The other one was a van jefferson touchdown. Um, the defense did not play well in this game. The fact that they had a defensive plan that on the zone reads. They decided, hey, we're just going to keep tackling derrick henry. And then lamar jackson figured that out and said, hey, I'm just going to start running the football with my, with my own legs and 81 yards 81 yards 81 yards and that really didn't matter for Derrick Henry because he still had 186 yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 2:This defense, as much as I want to blame the offense and how they didn't play well and they didn't. Russell Wilson played terribly, especially in that first half where they did absolutely nothing. Pickens did a little bit, at least in the second half, got that one touchdown catch, but really outside of that nothing. They didn't run the football at all. Their leading rusher was Najee Harris, with 17 yards off six carries. This was an all-encompassing type of loss where the Ravens came in and sunned us. I knew it was going to happen. I picked the Ravens to win this game because I knew that was possibly going to be a chance. You had more belief in the Steelers than I did coming into this game.
Speaker 1:I believe your defense was still good.
Speaker 2:And they weren't. They didn't show up, tj Watt didn't record, not a stat.
Speaker 1:He was shitty all year.
Speaker 2:And I think that. Say he wasn't Go ahead, fuck nigga Less than 10 sacks, less than 10 sacks, less than 10 9-10?.
Speaker 1:Is it what he has been in past years? Fine, he wasn't even top 10 in sacks dude. Yes, that's his job.
Speaker 2:He's been getting doubled all year, oh wow, he has not.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's so impressive.
Speaker 2:Let me finish. He has not overcame it like he has in past years, and that's on him. That's what I was trying to say. That's it. He did not perform the way he needed to perform.
Speaker 1:Top defensive end get doubled. Cry about it.
Speaker 2:I just said he didn't play up to snuff.
Speaker 1:I didn't say that. Oh, he's been doubled all year. Yeah, that's what number one defensive ends get.
Speaker 2:Yes, I literally just said he didn't play well enough. I just said that. I just said that.
Speaker 1:I just said that he was shitty.
Speaker 2:Everybody wanted to blame Mike Tomlin, and I think Mike Tomlin does carry some blame, because I've been saying this from the get-go that if Russell Wilson wasn't going to be the difference between you winning a Super Bowl and not winning a Super Bowl, which I've been claiming all year, when they switched to Russell Wilson, mike Tomlin claimed that it was going to give our offense a bump, and it did for a little bit. Our offense did take a bump when it came to throwing the ball, but if that decision was not going to lead to the Steelers winning the Super Bowl, I felt like they should have just kept Fields in and let him keep growing, and they didn't. So now they have wasted a year, had another one and done season. At least we would have kept Justin Fields in all year. We probably would have struggled a little bit more. We'd had a better draft pick, so we can help out our team. So now we go into this next season.
Speaker 2:Fans Fans were crying for Tomlin to get fired, which he's not going to get fired. The team has already backed him. He has a no trade clause, so you're not going to be able to trade him. He had a press conference today. People were talking about whether he wanted to get traded or not and he said I will tell other teams right now, save your time. I'm not getting traded and I feel like they do. Problems that they had was a more organizational problem than it was a Mike Tomlin problem. The one thing I'd give him is that they should not have had Russell Wilson in the first place. They should have not switched to him in the first place.
Speaker 1:I understand If you really think Justin Fields is going to be your future. I agree, bro, but one as a coincidence 13 is a pattern.
Speaker 2:Yep, I'm very aware.
Speaker 1:You have 13 of the exact same fucking pattern Yep, I'm very aware. You have 13 of the exact same fucking season. Yep, eight of them being exactly the fucking same. 13 of them also being a little different, but about the same You're one consistent You've had six offensive coordinators. Arthur Smith, by the way, hot fucking garbage. Fire his dumb ass.
Speaker 2:Don't know why y'all you say that, but he was better than what we've had for years.
Speaker 1:Last year was dude, before that was Matt Canada. That's a low fucking bar. Yeah, he's worse than Zach Taylor. Fire that stupid motherfucker. I don't know why y'all hired him. Sorry, I need to get that out of here.
Speaker 2:We have a quarterback that like again Russell Wilson was okay at times.
Speaker 1:I do agree with you. I don't understand the Russell Wilson thing. I don't get it.
Speaker 2:I never understood it in the first place.
Speaker 1:I think Justin Fields gives you more explosiveness.
Speaker 2:I think he gives you some he's a little more dynamic, he could have grown in the offense If you really expect him to be your future you have to give him the reins.
Speaker 2:He could have played this whole year because he was playing better. He went 4-2 as a starter for the Steelers at the start of the year. Maybe he would have been not as good, maybe he wouldn't have made the playoffs, maybe he would have had to play one less game this year. The fact that you could have let him grow and you could have been better for the future because of it and they decided not to. That was Mike Tomlin. Against everybody, everybody wanted to keep Justin Fields in. That is on Mike Tomlin. Outside of that, this is not a Mike Tomlin issue.
Speaker 1:The whole team needs to get revamped.
Speaker 2:Making the playoffs can't be like the bar the bar for the Steelers should try to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:That's what it should be for everybody. Even if you're a poor, a bad franchise, the bar should be oh, we're always trying to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Right, but that's not the case for everybody.
Speaker 1:It's not but the bar for the Steelers almost feels like oh, 10 and 5 is okay, let's just make the playoff. That's You're not wrong. Like that was the bar for me personally this year, because I believe the Bengals can actually do some shit this year. Because I believe the Bengals can actually do some shit, right, but as a Steelers fan, are you tired of that?
Speaker 2:being the ball. It's demoralizing.
Speaker 1:There's been Steelers teams that were way better than this.
Speaker 2:True. I listened to Bomani Jones talk about this. He said if you take out those 70s, the team in the 70s that won like four Super Bowls. They haven't done anything except for the two with Big Ben. So 70s that won like four Super Bowls. They haven't done anything except for the two with Big Ben.
Speaker 2:So the idea that you're making it about the Steeler the standard, is a standard. The Steelers have always been a winning franchise. That's not always the case. The Steelers have had many years where they've sucked. So you can't don't let the past be the reason that you think that you are a better team than what you are.
Speaker 2:The Steelers is probably one of the best-ran organizations, but it doesn't mean you are the winningest organizations. Maybe when it comes to championships, yes, because you had two very good runs, one in the 70s with the Steelers and then you had a couple with Big Ben. But outside of that the Steelers have been bad and I feel like they need to change a lot of things and how they do business and how they do business and how they do in the quarterback position, and I think a lot of those things are not on, mike Tallman, because that team has ran how it's a collective decision. It is not one of those where it's a tyrant owner. It is. We all do this together and they all fail, and they all succeed together and they all lose together.
Speaker 2:So I'm not going to sit here and put it all on Mike Tallman. I feel like he made a couple decisions I don't agree with. He made a couple decisions I don't agree with, but the problem is that if you fire him, you better have a great option behind him. And they're not going to do that because, guess what? Not only did they extend him last year, so they're not trying to pay somebody to not Again. They're not necessarily crazy flush with cash, so they're not going to pay somebody to not work. And I think Mike Tomlin would get hired by somebody else right away. Because Mike Tomlin is a very good head coach but he is not good enough to fix the issues that we have had on our team forever. And if we keep doing this whole thing and being like the Colts, I'd hire Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2:Exactly so. If you're going to keep making these decisions and not trying to actually build towards something and if you're just trying to put band-aids on things and trying to like, oh, let's just be a team that makes the playoffs, here's the problem. The Steelers will never be bad enough to go get the great quarterback to change their team, because nowadays if a quarterback's great, they're getting picked at the top of the draft. They're not falling and you're. So they're never gonna be bad enough to be picking at the top of the draft, but they're never gonna be good enough to go win a Super Bowl. So now we're stuck in the freaking middle. We're picking from 15 to 20 every single goddamn year. So now the Steelers are stuck and they never make the drastic move to go and make the big move to go win, to go make big changes to the team. So if they're not going to do that, no matter what coach you have, it's not going to change.
Speaker 2:I hope the organization realizes that and I hope that they let Tomlin like they. Go and do that with Tomlin and try to make some bigger changes to the roster next year and try to make a better offense and who knows, there's gonna be a lot of changes they need to make. People were asking TJ Watt if he wants to get traded and he's like no, he's like I want to be part of the solution. I love it here and I feel like he said everything he needs to say and he's always been a Pittsburgh Steeler and he'll, like he'll go down as one of the best ones of all time. But I think that you have done him a disservice and you've done this defensive disservice by wasting that, by having no offense for the last ever since Ben left, you fucked around and picked up Kenny Pickett and wasted two years on him. I was mad at the time.
Speaker 2:That draft class was just as bad, dude. It was but they really believed that the hometown kid was going to bring them back to glory when I was very certain that he was not going to be that dude. And it turned out to be that way.
Speaker 1:I know he's been pretty good for the Eagles.
Speaker 2:As a backup in a couple games.
Speaker 1:He started one and won that game pretty handily. But it's for a lot better team.
Speaker 2:The Eagles are much better Maybe. So the Steelers are going to have to make a lot more wholesale changes if they want to change anything. But again, are they going to? I'll believe it when I see it.
Speaker 1:Maybe I could go out and trade for Kenny Pickett back.
Speaker 2:Fuck you. I've never said that to you, but fuck you, and I mean it from the bottom of my heart.
Speaker 1:Daniel Jones is out there.
Speaker 2:No, he's the backup for the Vikings right now.
Speaker 1:He was hoping he'd get a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's not happening for him either. It's funny he can't even sit on the bench his way to a ring. Next game? I don't understand that. Move Me either, buddy Me either. Next game we have what? Was it Green Bay? Was it Green Bay? Yeah, all right, it was Green Bay Eagles.
Speaker 2:Eagles won the game 22-10. Eagles did absolutely nothing offensively for the most part in this game. Jalen Hurts went 13-21 for 131 yards and two touchdowns. Apparently some people were thinking maybe he's just a little rusty from not playing for three weeks. Maybe it's that offense is that bad? Saquon Barkley was great 25 carries, 119 yards. Devontae Smith had 55 yards off four receptions. Mr AJJ Brown himself had one catch for 10 yards and he ended up reading a book on the sideline and people started talking like why are you reading a book on the sideline? And it was apparently he made it a big deal. He was like why do you guys always think there's something wrong when I'm doing something? I'm like well, because you've made everything about yourself when things aren't going well for you, going well for you. So like it's very easy for somebody to start thinking like, oh, if you are reading a, who's reading a book on the sideline of an nfl?
Speaker 1:football game. So like what book is?
Speaker 2:it was like some like self-help book or something like that. It went to. It went to number one selling online as soon as that happened, but it was just a I don't know, it's just the. The green packers had nothing in this game. J Jordan Love was awful. He threw three picks in this game.
Speaker 1:I told you he would be.
Speaker 2:So bad? This Eagles defense is legit If their offense can get it together.
Speaker 1:I still think we put the Packers too high.
Speaker 2:I think we put the Chargers too high.
Speaker 1:Let me see.
Speaker 2:When it came to our confidence rankings.
Speaker 1:Yeah, probably Technically we put Minnesota too high.
Speaker 2:Yes, that was another one. We'll talk about that in a minute. But the Eagles last thing on them it's just can Jalen Hurts get back to form and start playing? Well is one thing. They just need him to be. They don't need him to be Superman. All they need to do is have him be a big enough threat to throw the football so they can't just sit there and load the box on Saquon Barkley. They have plenty of weapons, they have plenty of guys to throw to. Jalen Hurts just needs to be good enough to get it there when they need to. We did not pick great, but that defense is awesome. We got three balls Again. I was very close to picking some of the upsets that happened, but Houston I bet Houston with three points. I bet it, but I didn't have the balls to pick them. On the podcast, the Rams I felt like they could have won that game and that went hilariously that way.
Speaker 1:That was the game. I didn't feel like that. I believe that was the one game that I thought the Rams could win.
Speaker 2:That was it. The Rams is the one I fought for. When we did our confidence rankings, you were like you don't think they can win the first game. No, but you're like but they can get farther. The way they played last night, they can make the Super Bowl. Who do they play next?
Speaker 1:Philly. Them niggas are not making the Super Bowl If Philly plays like that offensively again, the Rams can do it.
Speaker 2:That defense is crazy Stop playing them.
Speaker 1:white boys are different. They got them newfangled white boys. They can jump.
Speaker 2:That other game, Bills-Broncos. Bills destroy the Broncos, Broncos get off to a seven-point lead and the Bills scored 31 unanswered points. Josh.
Speaker 1:Helm was awesome, y'all be. They scored how many? 31 unanswered. Y'all scored 38 on the Chiefs for what you should have just swapped out with the Bengals. I did watch this game because I was like, all right, y'all pushed us out, let's see what you can do. I was watching, I was like let's see what you can do.
Speaker 2:That first drive was good and then they did nothing after that.
Speaker 1:I sat back and I was like y'all are a waste of fucking space. Y'all wasted that playoff spot on. It technically would have been wasted on Tampa Bay. That playoff spot was wasted on Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2:Playoff spot. You mean the Broncos wasted their playoff spot.
Speaker 1:No, the extra spot that the Bengals didn't get was given to Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2:No, because they gave one extra spot per.
Speaker 1:Who was it given to?
Speaker 2:The Broncos. They got the seventh seed. That's why they had to play the Bills.
Speaker 1:Y'all took the Y'all Dude, dude, dude.
Speaker 2:We would have beat the Bills. We would have dicked on the Bills, bro, fuck you, fuck you. We do it. The way the Bills played, I'm not sure, but the Bills played great. Josh Allen played great 20-26, 272 yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1:I don't Wait, wait, wait. I'm not denying the fact he probably would have still played great.
Speaker 2:Huh. I'm played greater than it would it wouldn't have been a 31 to 7 route. If that's what you're saying, it would have been the best game of the weekend.
Speaker 1:Been a back and forth affair for sure it would have been who gets the ball last, like how everyone I chose, but derby was cook, the running back, had 120 yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 2:Samuel 68 yard touchdown 68 yards and off three receptions and a touchdown. Buffalo bulls played great. They treated buffalo, they treated denver like a team that wasn't worth their time and that's exactly how that game went. The game wasn't close whatsoever. Next game we got Commanders-Buccaneers. This is probably the best game of the weekend. To be honest, commanders beat the Buccaneers 23-20. This game was back and forth. Baker Mayfield did not have a great showing. He went 15-18. He was efficient. But it's just some of the mistakes. They made the fumble.
Speaker 1:The fumble was the one that kind of sealed it.
Speaker 2:I don't even think that was on him. I think that was on the wide receiver for mistiming it when he was trying to yes. I think the wide receiver mistimed it and it messed up the whole play. That fumble was the breaking point because after that the Washington, the Washington, ended up getting the touchdown to go up.
Speaker 1:She's a kicker yeah.
Speaker 2:Apparently he has a tick. He has a nervous tick and that's his whole thing.
Speaker 1:Who was it? It was real quick. When I'm at work we watch McAfee, so McAfee was like I wouldn't doubt if he does that before every kick no-transcript. No, not wrong everybody has their things, like when you go up to bat yeah, jan daniels awesome in this game 24, 35, 268, two touchdowns.
Speaker 2:He was also the leading rusher in this game 13 carries, 36 yards. Terry mclaurin had another great game seven receptions, 89 yards and a touchdown. Mike evans for everything that happened in this game. He was awesome seven receptions, 92 yards and a touchdown. Um, whenever he faces latimore, he you get the best out of mike evans. Him and latimore have a heated rivalry for so many years now and he has eaten pretty much most of the time when those two face each other.
Speaker 2:Bucky Irving played great 17 carries, 77 yards. Baker Mayfield he played efficient, but just the mistakes that happened at the end of the game just happened at the worst time and Washington took advantage of it. I think Baker, I think this time at Buccaneers it sucks they this game, but they should feel great because they managed to make the playoffs when nobody thought they would and they played well. I think Washington just come out of this game feeling great. Daniels played awesome when they needed him to. He was stone cold and he made the plays they needed to to win this football game. And who do they play next game? They play the Lions next game. I don't give them much of a chance. And who do they play next game? They play the Lions next game. I don't give them much of a chance. They're going to make it fun.
Speaker 1:I have a feeling that Washington will make it fun, but I think the Lions will still win that game.
Speaker 2:I think they could make it fun or it won't be, but no, washington just played very good football. I have to give them that credit. They won that game fair and square and managed to get that field goal to end it. And managed to get that field goal to end it. It's funny because it hit off the upright and I'm like it kind of hit on the inside and I'm like okay, it ended up falling through, but it was so close I'm like oh, is this thing going to doink and then have to go to overtime? That would have been insane.
Speaker 2:But no, it was the best football game of the weekend. Played a very good ball and very good and, and last but not least, the game last night Rams Vikings Rams won the game 27 and 27 to 9. This game was a route from the start. Sam Darnold, these last two games have been the worst games of his career. Think about it 14 days ago he was on the precipice of having a hundred million dollar contract of probably being the starter for the Vikings going forward. Like I already said about the money, his whole narrative about him will change. Like pretty much anything before he got to the Vikings would have been erased. The seeing ghosts for the paint when he was playing against the Patriots, when he was with the Jets, like all of it would have been erased. But now that he played that terrible game against the Lions where he was got sacked a bunch of times and he started seeing ghosts and going to the game last night against the rams, the rams absolutely destroyed him. He got sacked nine times last night. That offensive line played terribly for him last night. But again, that offensive line has been a problem all year and he's played well, but these last two games it finally got to him. He was seeing ghosts, like when he, even when he had open guys, he wasn't able to get it to them.
Speaker 2:Um, sam darnold went 25 and 40 245 yards, one touchdown. One pick played awful. Um, you know it's bad when justin jefferson has five receptions, 58 yards. The leading receiver in this game was tj hockinson at five perceptions, 64 yards and a touchdown. So the fact that this rams team and I was talking about this on the last podcast this Rams defense is so good, jared Verst, their defensive end is awesome. Like they get after you, their defense is not letting up and Matthew Safford came in and did absolutely what he needed to do. He went 19-27, 209 yards and two touchdowns. Kyron Williams had 76 yards rushing you had. Higby played well at tight end position. Pukunukuwa had five catches 44 yards. Cooper Cup only had one catch for 29 yards.
Speaker 2:But it was this Rams defense that just smothered Minnesota, where they couldn't do anything in this game and their offense just made very good plays when they needed to and they won this football game and, like I was saying, before the playoffs even started, it's why I wanted them a lot higher on the rankings that if this Rams team can get it together and their offense start playing well. They have an offense coordinator, slash head coach that can put an offense together to beat anybody, even a great Eagles defense that has been very good for most of the year. They have a shot and I think, with Matthew Stafford playing with confidence, I think they're a very scary team. Do I? Would I pick them to beat the Eagles? I'm not sure, I haven't figured that out yet, but the Eagles right now are a six point favorite right now Cause they're going to be at home. But I know it's going to be a very good game. And this Rams offense, as long as they're they're humming, they as long as they're they're humming, they can be a very scary team to have to face.
Speaker 2:But uh, that was the last game from this, enough from the nfl super wildcard weekend. And let's see here. Oh, by the way, chiefs right now are eight point favorite against the texans this weekend. I'm thinking about going texas money line because if texans can defense, can play like that against the chiefs, I think their defense can really make it hard on the chiefs to like really do anything.
Speaker 2:And if that's the case, the only question is whether the Texans offense can do enough to like score points to win, because they're not going to hold down Patrick Mahomes forever. So the question is, can the Texas offense do well and keep Cedar Stroud upright? And that's the. That's the part I I'm not very sure about, but if they can, I think I would probably root for Texas the rest of the way. Okay, so this is the last question I had before we went on the podcast here. If you had to pick one Super Bowl that obviously your team's not going to be in it and neither is mine, but of all the teams left if you had to pick a matchup where you could watch the Super Bowl and not be mad either way and you could just enjoy the game, what team?
Speaker 1:would you pick None of them? I don't think any team in the NFC was better than Bengals.
Speaker 2:No, that you could just enjoy the game and not be mad either way, I can't.
Speaker 1:None of the teams in the NFC were better than Bengals. I didn't fucking stutter.
Speaker 2:I was trying to take feelings out of it a little bit. That's all I was trying to do. I was trying to do. I would say I would be happy if it was like a Texans and Lions matchup, because obviously we've already seen the Rams on the Super.
Speaker 1:Bowl.
Speaker 2:We've already seen the Eagles and I guess the Commanders could, but I just don't have a lot of confidence that they can make it all the way. But if it's like the Texans and Lions or if it could be like the Bills and the Lions, that could be cool't. Obviously I don't want to see the Ravens win one because you know they're still my, they're still the in the AFC North. I don't want to see them do anything well in the NFL, at least in the playoffs. So if it's one of those two, I would definitely be happy if you can get one of those two matchups. But outside of that I just I don't want to see the Chiefs win again. I really don't. But uh, it seems like it's in the script and they're probably going to win it and we're all going to be looking stupid at the end of the year for doubting them all year. But you know it is what it is. But that's about it. Man, we've talked about all those games from this past weekend. We'll be coming back on the next podcast on probably Thursday or Friday. Let's talk about this weekend's upcoming games and the national championship on Monday. So championship on Monday. So let's go ahead and the podcast wait till the next one.
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