JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
Ohio State and Notre Dame's Clash for the Natty, NFL Divisional Round Preview
Could a Japanese pitching sensation be shaking up MLB's power balance? We're kicking off this episode with a thrilling look at Roki Sasaki and the buzz around his potential move to major teams like the Padres, Dodgers, and Blue Jays. As avid baseball fans, we're both frustrated and fascinated by the Dodgers' financial muscle and lament the Yankees not being a frontrunner in the Sasaki sweepstakes. We also reflect on how a World Series loss rekindled our love for the game, and share excitement about the new NCAA College Football video game, questioning whether it will be fresh or just another rehash.
Then, it’s all about college football and the strategic art of recruiting—the secret sauce for teams aiming to dominate the Big Ten. Schools like Michigan State are pulling out all the stops to lure top talent with financial incentives, and we're here to talk about high-profile recruits like Aiden Charles and Nick Marsh. The conversation takes a cheeky turn as we discuss the stakes of winning smaller bowl games, like the Pop-Tart Bowl, and why they still matter in the grand scheme of college sports. We cap off with the Ohio State vs. Notre Dame showdown, exploring strategic matchups, Ohio State's championship prospects, and the rollercoaster of emotions that accompany the playoff journey.
We then get into the current NFL news cycle revolving around where QB Sam Darnold now stands after his disasterous end to the season, and current openings at head coach for a number of teams. Does Deion Sanders make sense to be the next head coach of the Cowboys even if his son Shedeur ends up getting drafted to another team? We also can't go without talking about the upcoming four pack of games in the Divisonal round of the NFL playoffs. We analyze the matchups and decide how we each see the games going while trying to deal with the idea of the Kansas City Chiefs not having anybody stop them on their way to a potential 3rd straight SB win.
welcome back to this podcast. Today is thursday, january the 16th. We're back on the podcast we back and we back.
Speaker 2:Um, we got football, football, more football to talk about. We got really not much like basketball. We need to get back into basketball to some degree now, like we have to kind of get back into it a little bit. But you know, outside of that, like we don't have much baseballs, pretty much the okay, real, just baseball thing. I don't know why this has popped up in my head. Um, it's uh, sataki, sasaki, nope shizuki nope, it's a japanese pitcher.
Speaker 2:Um, it, it's rocky sasaki, that's his name. He is coming from japan, all of that coming to the mlb. Um, he's coming down to the padres, the dodgers and the blue jays. I believe the last three yankees were in on this to at one point. Yankees still have a ton of money they still haven't even spent yet and they're still trying to get pieces and all that ad. And a guy like rocky is not necessarily essential, but he'd be a good ad to our already pretty deep rotation with the guys that we already have.
Speaker 2:But the fact that this dude and this is the part that made me upset, the fact that this guy is locked into not really locked in, but the fact that the Dodgers are still in it my question is this team has to run out of money at some point. Right, there is like this Dodgers team. They're just going to keep collecting everybody to where, like I'm surprised they didn't get Soto at this point, based on how they're looking Every time there's a player out there that may, not to mention the fact this guy's Japanese. It was already going to be kind of slanted towards wanting to go to the Dodgers because they already have two of, like the top guys that have come out of Japan here in a while. So like I get it, they're kind of creating their own little ecosystem there to kind of keep bringing Japanese players if they're any good.
Speaker 2:But the fact the Yankees aren't even in the top three, that's insane. The Blue Jays like come on, when's the last time the Blue Jays really been that good? They haven't been. And the Padres like we all know the Padres are, you know, not great, but the Padres I think it's more about probably the Padres are more probably willing to spend more money than potentially the Dodgers willing to give and potentially the Blue Jays. But that got on my nerves the other day because I was hoping for a guy like him, because that would just be a little bit of a nice little bump to kind of take you over the edge. Because again, when you're the Yankees and you make the World Series last year, play against the Dodgers, shoot yourself in the foot plenty of times and then lose like you're just looking for small little things.
Speaker 2:And I think even with losing Soto the Yankees have really come out nice out the back end of this with getting a lot of good players that really fill in a lot of positions of need and the Yankees actually still look like they're a pretty good contender in the AL. They're a pretty good contender in the AL, but it's just that something like that just makes me very annoyed by the whole system. But you know, it is what it is. It's baseball and as long as you're willing to spend the money it's oh, not to mention as long as you're willing to have your best player $700 million player not actually willing to take that money on the front end and just be saying you can just pay me back when you want to and then not count towards your cap is absolutely insane. It's such a cheat. It's insane because no American or Dominican or Cuban-born player will do that because they want their money in hand. You're not going to be why am I freaking?
Speaker 1:Show me Otani, otani.
Speaker 2:Otani's getting so much money from Japan. It doesn't matter, so I don't know why I mentioned this, but it was something that was on my brain. Money from Japan doesn't matter, so I don't know why I mentioned this, but it was something that was on my brain. Baseball I've been paying more attention to actual baseball signings and all that recently, which is kind of funny because basketball is so much more entertaining. But with the Yankees losing the World Series, I think it's kind of motivated me to kind of get really back into it. It is not a good feeling, whatever sports game I'm playing at the time.
Speaker 1:It's the most interesting sport to me.
Speaker 2:So basketball right now? No, it's been a while since.
Speaker 1:I've been on the show. I'll be on the show, okay, but it's just such a long form factor to play a game? Yeah, no question, dude, I can only play like three games and I'm like fuck, I'm bored, it's the same shit. Throw ball, hit ball. Throw ball, hit ball.
Speaker 2:Speaking ball hit ball, throw, ball, hit ball. Speaking of games, you know they're releasing another um ncaa, coswell 2025 26 now, yeah, in the summertime. So the question is, what are they going to update? I, that's the question. Is this going to be like eat, like madden, all over again, where they're doing just very little again?
Speaker 1:I'm don't do that. I legit the my team mode. I've never opened it.
Speaker 2:I've never opened it.
Speaker 1:I would open it it would give me the tutorial I've never opened it. I've never opened it, neither have I. I would open it. It would give me the tutorial.
Speaker 2:I've never opened it either.
Speaker 1:I don't care.
Speaker 2:I've done playing Dynasty, I've played.
Speaker 1:Dynasty, 95% of what I've played. It is 95% and I've played you.
Speaker 2:And I've played you and I've played a couple other people just randomly online.
Speaker 1:But outside of that, nothing. I've played the my Career mode, but that's the thing. If you want to play it.
Speaker 2:You've got to be a four or five star Right.
Speaker 1:If you want to sit on the bench for two years, go pick anything under four.
Speaker 2:Exactly and, depending on the position, it gets very boring very fast. It gets fucking boring. Don't even try to play quarterback. You're not playing my nigga. Or if you do play, they lock you in only certain plays and you're sitting there like what am I doing here? You're not calling plays.
Speaker 1:You're like a robot. You're legit.
Speaker 2:This is a play you have to run no questions asked, and they're running. At 95% of the time You're like, oh, I didn't get the throw. And then you get the throw on third and 45, and then you look stupid by like, oh, you didn't do right by getting the pass off. Like pass off, like yeah, it's 1345, you really expect me to get that.
Speaker 1:I'm like insane, they fucking sacked me why'd I go negative?
Speaker 2:how is that my?
Speaker 1:fault what I don't understand what there is for you to update. I won't be the shows. Another one to. Y'all have not changed anything. What the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 2:these, all these sports games should literally I've been saying this for years it should be on a Minecraft model. Keep the Keep the game as an open source type of game. We update and you update it and you add patches to it.
Speaker 1:Don't make me pay full price for another full game, because all you're doing is just adding things as you go, I am cool, make me pay $30, $40, something like that, because games are now $70.
Speaker 2:I'd pay $30 for the pack to get all the new players and have them all locked in.
Speaker 1:You give me all the new players, you give me a bunch of new updates or the updates come in and you're like, hey, you have to pay a little more for this.
Speaker 2:Fine, I'm cool, but don't make me pay for a brand new game if it's not going to be much different it streamlines it.
Speaker 1:It streamlines it streamlines it.
Speaker 2:I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1:Y'all have made enough games figure out, especially 2k. You have not changed shit in years. All you ever change is a shooting bar right, and I play my team in 2k because it's actually easy to build a fucking team. My team in 2K is the best my team you can ever play, because they give you challenges. There's a whole mode you can play offline. There's another one. You can play offline or you can play online.
Speaker 2:Go play other people. If you lose, who cares Exactly?
Speaker 1:But Madden's shitty at it.
Speaker 2:You don't get shit from challenges In college football. I'm much better.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't know. I've never opened it. I don't know. I've watched other people play I don't know what it looks like. You play it. I have no clue what it looks like it's very similar.
Speaker 2:It's very similar to that I, even though I will even though from what I've seen, the market for buying players isn't close to as bad as madness. No dude, because like it's so much cheaper to get higher level overall players, but again I think that's more people falling off. A lot of people stop playing it as much because they're all playing Dynasty anyway. So even when they were playing, that's why we wanted the game.
Speaker 1:We wanted to play Dynasty. We didn't want to mind it Right In the old games. You could play Dynasty online. That was all your modes the road to college football.
Speaker 2:That's all you can play, or the connected dynasties with other people. That's great. That's all you could do, and that is how a game should be fucking played, but the money, but they want to keep the money pick coming sorry, the money roll coming when having people have to buy all these players and that's fine, which is great for some people, but most, most people are just doing.
Speaker 1:Dynasty, the modes you have in Madden Madden's, the worst one, oh.
Speaker 2:Madden's the worst At least in 2K.
Speaker 1:The career mode is fine, right, it's cool, it's fine. You have to probably spend more money on 2K to even compete with other people online. If you're using your MyPlayer, oh yeah, no question, you have to be a 99er, your ass, yeah. And if your, and then in MLB, the Show, their my Team is really fun. You can do challenges for it, you can play online for it. I'd say that one's much more competitive.
Speaker 2:Right, because the people that are putting their time into it are really putting their time into it. You have to track the baseball like it's real life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so if you can't do that, it's hard, right? So that one's really hard to play if you're just a normal person, right? And?
Speaker 2:then Madden it's just not fun.
Speaker 1:It's not fun. The team mode, where you just play as a team that's fun.
Speaker 2:But again I get all that in Dynasty and more.
Speaker 1:And it changes.
Speaker 2:The recruiting for Dynasty is addicting.
Speaker 1:I have to keep updating the team In Madden. I'm like I'll have these players for another five, six years. I can re-sign them after that and I am looking at a dynasty right now.
Speaker 1:I'm playing at San Jose State. I was a game off the national championship. I got shit boxed by fucking Miami. Beat the shit out of me. I am at San Jose State and I'm looking at my two quarterbacks who both kind of suck ass. Both suck. So I've been running a dual quarterback system and I've been looking hard. I'm getting four or five stars. Now I was almost in the natty Dude. The team gets better and I have to keep. These guys are seniors. I have to swap them out.
Speaker 2:It's a chase. It's a chase. You have to keep getting these players, and that's what makes the game fun Like there's freshmen.
Speaker 1:I have a 75 overall freshman. He is elite. He is so good. I redshirted that nigga because he was so good. I need you for at least another couple years. You are a redshirt. I'm going to use you Because in this game they let you use him four times. So I redshirted him. I've used him to play Notre Dame, miami again and one of the rivalry games, because those are the games I want to win, but, dude, it's fun. Fuck, don't do it again, let's just update it Again.
Speaker 2:I'm going to buy it. I'm stuck now.
Speaker 1:I'm going to buy it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to buy it, but I'm not going to be.
Speaker 1:Depending on what they do to it. Hopefully they actually do something good.
Speaker 2:I'm. I'll just keep enjoying dynasty if it's really going to be that. Much the same I'm don't. Just don't make the same mistakes as madden. They showed you that if you keep doing that with madden, it starts to take a hit. That's why they came out cost well 25s were like oh, we can't keep doing this, we have to bring it back to the nostalgia factor. That's why they're back on this. But don't start falling into that trap, because people will go away from it too. Because here's the thing about Dynasty you don't need to have the updated roster for Dynasty. The rosters keep doing it themselves and I can keep doing these generated guys all day long as long as the wide receivers are 6'5 and around 2'12.
Speaker 1:And they'll most likely be a 4 or 5 star. Don't do this. 6'5, 2'12, deep threat, easy mode Exactly. That's all it is. It'll keep giving me AI classes.
Speaker 2:It'll keep doing it over and over again, and I'll be more than happy to do it, because I have to do it the right game. Or they sit there and pick somebody else. Some one of the players I was getting picked Miami, maybe he's so upset. I'm like no, what the fuck? I put so much time into you, don't do we're?
Speaker 1:trying to recruit you.
Speaker 2:What are we doing? I put all my time into you, all the hours I don't need that.
Speaker 1:The next game will have that same shit, so why do I need that one Exactly? This one already has that. Exactly Updated rosters are cool. That's awesome. Yeah, most of these guys are already on the team.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 1:The thing they might tell me is that as soon the national championship fingers crossed on monday, it'll be jeremiah smith it'll be jeremiah smith from cover he didn't get rookie of the year, he didn't get um freshman of the year he was on the all freshman team he didn't, but he did not win freshman year.
Speaker 2:It was the quarterback from carolina no, it wasn't it was a texas player, it was a texas safety or something like that. Not safety, it was a corner. No, my linebacker, it was texas linebackers. That that was a Texas safety or something like that. Not safety, it was a corner, no linebacker, it was a Texas linebacker.
Speaker 2:That was a story going into the game against Texas last week is that Jeremiah Smith didn't win freshman year. It was this Texas linebacker. And they asked Chip Kelly off at the coordinator for Ohio State and he was like you know he didn't, why wouldn't he? And then he asked why Jeremiah Smith wouldn't win the award and he's like oh yeah, the linebacker is good player. It was a Texas linebacker, is what it was. There was no way he was better than Jeremiah Smith this year. But you know it's fine, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it. I still have two more years to amass all the awards possible, but we have to start with the chip, which is what we will get into first when it comes to our football talk, because we have a singular game.
Speaker 1:This is a win, Real quick. Nick Marsh also made the all.
Speaker 2:All freshman team. He did. He was the other wide receiver.
Speaker 1:He was the third receiver. They had three.
Speaker 2:Who was the?
Speaker 1:second, ryan Williams.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yes, the list goes. It makes total sense.
Speaker 1:Legit goes Ryan Williams, Jeremiah Smith, Nick Marsh.
Speaker 2:He was so good, nick Marsh was very good, he was so good, yes.
Speaker 1:And then they had Elijah Lofton, tight end from Miami. And then tackles Tight end from Miami. Tackles who cares? Dylan Riola was the quarterback, of course.
Speaker 2:He was not that good this year but okay, fine. He was the big-name quarterback that started as a freshman. All right, fine, because he was not good at Nebraska whatsoever. He had a couple games where he flashed, but he was mostly bad. But again, was there any other freshman that really played throughout this year? There, really wasn't.
Speaker 1:Quarterback-wise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, quarterback-wise it's not going to happen anymore, especially if you're going to a big school. Especially now is because, as long as there's an option to go get potentially an older guy, maybe the older guy doesn't have to automatically start, but at least they can be kind of like a bridge. What safety was it? No, it was a no. It was a texas like linebacker. It was like a texas linebacker that won, uh, play freshman of the year or something like that. That's what it was right, though that's what the award for was. Freshman of the year, yeah, but jeremiah smith made all the freshmen, the all-freshman team, um no, dude, it was lenore sellers no, he was.
Speaker 2:He wasn't a freshman, though. Lenore Sellers is a freaking quarterback from South Carolina, and he wasn't even a freshman.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:He's a redshirt freshman.
Speaker 1:That's what everybody's problem was. He was a redshirt, he wasn't. Lenore Sellers has been selected as the 2024 National Freshman Offensive Player of the Year. It's 24-7 sports. I'm so serious, no.
Speaker 2:No Number 443 Football Simmons wins the Sean Alexander Freshman of the Year Award. Sean Alexander the edge the Year Award. Sean Alexander the Edge it's an Edge. He won the Freshman of the Year, colin Simmons, that's what it was. Sean Alexander Freshman of the Year, that's like the big award for the best freshman in college football. Where do you see that? I'm on Texas' website right now, but just search Sean Alexander's freshman of the year Freshman of the year Freshman of the year award and then the semi. Let's see the semi-finalist Sean Alexander Award. I don't need the history of it right now. I don't need that, come on. I just want to know. The Caleb Downs won it last year and Collinson has won it this year.
Speaker 1:I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:Again, we went into this whole conversation, but yeah, I know Nick Marsh was a finalist for it. Yeah, he should have been.
Speaker 1:He was so good he's going to transfer after this year.
Speaker 2:He would have transferred already because the transfer portal window dropped.
Speaker 1:No, after this coming year he's probably going to transfer.
Speaker 2:Who knows? But again he could transfer in the spring, that's definitely an option.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to lie to you. He was that good.
Speaker 2:No, he was very good that if he I'm guessing he probably got phone calls For people trying to, you know?
Speaker 1:There's definitely schools that are like hey.
Speaker 2:We'll give you a nice bag if you come, because there's definitely schools. I'm guessing Michigan State paid up. I'm guessing they didn't just let him sit. But if, if I'm guessing they didn't just let him sit, but if the if, uh, why am I thinking the quarterback's name now?
Speaker 1:Aiden.
Speaker 2:Charles, if Aiden Charles is not working out by then in the spring, if he's not really taking his steps forward.
Speaker 1:He's out.
Speaker 2:Nick Marsh might leave if he finds a better situation, Cause there's already going to be teams willing to give him the bag. It's just can you find a spot that'll get him more? Very good, but he's battling against a Ryan Williams.
Speaker 1:And Jeremiah Smith. He's good, but out of the three he's third Right and if you want, to keep your name up with those guys.
Speaker 2:You've got to have quarterbacks that can keep. You've got to have a quarterback that can get you the ball.
Speaker 1:You also have to be on a team that can compete Right and Jeremiah.
Speaker 2:Smith's not going to have that problem. Ryan Williams is not going to have that problem. Slightly have that problem because who knows what their quarterback situation is going into next year and again we're going to have a sophomore quarterback going into next year.
Speaker 1:But Jeremiah Smith is 6'5".
Speaker 2:And we have Coach Day as the head coach to, where we will make sure that, no matter what the quarterback is, it's going to be fine.
Speaker 1:Yes, I can say this about our coach he can recruit.
Speaker 2:Yes, he can Dude, he can fucking recruit.
Speaker 1:I've been seeing he has gotten a couple recruits to swing from other schools. He has been fire.
Speaker 2:And he's gotten guys to transfer.
Speaker 1:He has. I told you about the offensive lineman.
Speaker 2:We were trying to get him to visit Ohio State and he didn't even make the visit because he decided to go to Michigan State and they gave him enough money. That's where he's going. So you guys are putting in some money and you're definitely recruiting, so that's like, honestly, that's a start, because most schools can't even get that right, and you're still willing to use the transfer portal. So, with all that being the case, that's the way you build up your team and again, it's not going to be like Deion Sanders and kind of build it up in year one or Florida State, where they were able to do it in year one, very well, but again you just have to take a step by step keep using high school ball.
Speaker 1:He has 32 commits there you go.
Speaker 2:That's how you do it, man. Yeah 17 three stars and one four star, but true, but that again, that's michigan saints, what you're gonna have to do. But he's he's known how to play that game and he was doing it at oregon state. Of all places in oregon state isn't nearly the fertile recruiting ground that mich State is in the Midwest, especially when you're dealing with linemen, defensive linemen, all of that. He might have a little more trouble when it comes to quarterbacks and when it comes to skill positions.
Speaker 1:TR means transfer, right yeah, my bad Out of starter recruits. He doesn't have that many.
Speaker 2:It doesn't matter. But yeah, he's going to be a little harder for him to get skill guys. But again he made a pretty good decision with Nick Marsh right away. If he can just keep getting guys like those, that's how you build your team out, and again it's a 12-team playoff now, as we've all seen, you don't have to be the best in your conference, you have to be top three, especially when they start getting to— have you seen our conference?
Speaker 1:Top three is not achievable. What do you mean? Have you seen our conference? Top three is crazy. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:How many big tenting's made it Three, three or four?
Speaker 1:Four dude, yeah, four.
Speaker 2:You could be Indiana dude, you could be having Indiana type year.
Speaker 1:Four to a mountain nothing. Huh, Four to a mountain nothing, I don't want that shit, don't?
Speaker 2:you want to make the?
Speaker 1:dance. No, if I'm there, I want to win. I don't want to go there and be like Damn, I'm about to get Beat the fuck up by Texas. We could just Win a bowl game. Fuck that. I don't want to get Beat up by Texas. I want to go play In the fucking. I want to go play in the Pop-Tart Bowl. I want to do that the Pop-Tart.
Speaker 2:Bowl is so much fun to watch.
Speaker 1:Exactly, I want to go play in the Pop-Tart Bowl, do you?
Speaker 2:see how they end up putting the huge Pop-Tart in and then you can eat it, dude, and they eat it. I want to go play in the Pop-Tart Bowl. I don't want to go to the fucking.
Speaker 1:I don't know, to get dunked on by goddamn Texas, get my shit kicked in, just for them to go get their shit kicked in. So they weren't that good and we weren't that good. We could have both stayed home and ate a big ass Pop-Tart. No, we decided to go to fucking Arizona, get our shit kicked in and then go home. That might happen. That might happen. So this season amounted to nothing. We didn't even come home with a trophy. At least, if I win the Pop-Tart Bowl, I get to bring home some shit you get to bring home a Pop-Tart.
Speaker 1:That's cool. A good Pop-Tart. That's cool A giant one. It's going to be fun, and now I'm cool with that.
Speaker 2:I don't know Again. It's the thing about aspiring for dreams they can get shattered.
Speaker 1:We went under 500 this year. Dreams don't exist.
Speaker 2:They do exist because you had your dreams. When it comes to Joe Burrow, you have that. You get to be on the other end.
Speaker 1:That is Joe Shiesty. You get to be on the other end. That is Joe Shiesty. You know what he did in 2019? He made dreams come true because he was that guy. Right, we got to the big game, saw Clemson and beat the fuck out of Clemson.
Speaker 2:Clemson.
Speaker 1:Who'd they play?
Speaker 2:Are you talking about the?
Speaker 1:LSU yes, oh yes, they kicked the shit out of Clemson.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was sad it wasn't close. Yes, very aware.
Speaker 1:And then Joe Burrow continues to kick the shit out of teams.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:As his defense lets up points. Yeah, but again Joe Burrow looks at. Most people like you are not better than me.
Speaker 2:I am better than you. I look at.
Speaker 1:Aiden Childs like I am better than you. I'm better than you. Get off the field. Let me throw the ball. Put me in, I look at him like that. Yes, I could hit that fucking check down.
Speaker 2:You suck dick, you suck ass. Get off the field you suck.
Speaker 1:I look at Joe Burrow like I will suck your dick right now. If you throw another touchdown, I promise you give me another Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:I'm sucking it. There's a difference. Yes, I look at Joe Burrow like, as long as we have him, he gave you a chance to believe.
Speaker 1:As long as I'm on this team, the door is open for a Super Bowl and I believe him.
Speaker 2:Well, you believe him. Do you believe the team?
Speaker 1:to make good on that.
Speaker 2:As long as he's here, he's going to try, as long as our kicker can hit a fucking two kicks.
Speaker 1:If he hit two more kicks this year, we win two more games. Or if we don't get our shit kicked in by the Patriots first game, I don't know how the fuck that happened. How the fuck did that happen First? What happened? First game of the season we legit. That was the only other game we scored under 20.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Scored 13. What happened? You had a full offseason. That is the one game I look at.
Speaker 2:Joe bro. Full offseason first game of the year Bro.
Speaker 1:what was that?
Speaker 2:First game of the year dude. First game of the year jitters, apparently.
Speaker 1:It was Jacoby Brissett. Jacoby Brissett and a nobody. He's a. Jacoby Brissett is the upper echelon of backup quarterbacks.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1:He won't make as many mistakes. He will not give you a flashy play. Your team has to win the game yeah, but he will keep. He will even keel yeah. If you have a great defense, he's a great quarterback.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But we lost to Jacoby Brissett and who that? Was the difference, jacoby.
Speaker 2:Brissett and who we didn't play Drake May, yeah, drake May wasn't even an option.
Speaker 1:So, yes, but as a Spartans fan.
Speaker 2:I dread fucking spring. You don't have reason to hope yet. I'm like, holy shit, football's almost back.
Speaker 1:I don't want to do this. I don't want to do this, I don't want to do this.
Speaker 2:It just ended. It just ended. It's so crazy because this game's going to end on the 20th and then in three months we're going to be talking about Spring Bowl again and I'll be very excited to get right back into it Again. This is the first time for the playoff, now we're kind of trying to get back into that.
Speaker 1:Are you talking about this five-star offense tackle?
Speaker 2:The transfer.
Speaker 1:Oh, this is Michigan. No, not Michigan.
Speaker 2:No, if you go to 247, they have the transfer portal, I know.
Speaker 1:I thought it was at 247, but it was Michigan State. It was Michigan, not Michigan.
Speaker 2:State Transfer portal, team rankings and do it by the Big Ten. There we go Michigan State, I think it's the one. Yeah, the corner, connor Moore, it's a four-star transfer. From what?
Speaker 1:is the name of that school?
Speaker 2:I don't remember it doesn't say but no, it's a four-star transfer offensive lineman, offense tackle. That's a good thing, but, yes, that was so college football still going right now, if you didn't know, because we have the playoff and everything. So four days from now there will be a national championship game. That's going to be between two different teams, um, being ohio state and notre dame. Obviously, if you've been listening to this podcast for a while, uh, ohio state is my team. I've been writing for them, they've been, I've been. This is like the team I'm most attached to in all my fandom and uh, it's. This has been a magical ride.
Speaker 2:We talked about on the last podcast how Ohio State beat Texas and we talked about the Notre Dame beating Penn State. This is going to be the game where I just kind of give my thoughts as to how I think the game's going to go Score prediction and all that talk about that and it's not really going to be all that, because there's nothing else to really talk about. It's going into this game Ohio State, notre Dame. They're facing each other for the third year in a row. Marcus Freeman has already played us twice, actually. No, was it just once last year? No, because last year was his first year. So he faced us. Last year we beat them at their place and that was all good. It was the last second touchdown, and all that to win the game. This is the third time that Ohio State's played Notre Dame, third time in a row, and before that it was like 50-something years between playing them. So Ohio State and Notre Dame have not played much, and heck, with the new playoff system we actually might end up playing them a lot more often. But coming into this, ohio State has an 8.5, either an 8.5-point favorite as of right now, over-unders 45, and Ohio State's favorites.
Speaker 2:A lot of people are picking Ohio State. Ohio State, on paper, is the better team. They have had a harder path. They've faced some better teams coming into this game in comparison to Notre Dame, who they did face Georgia, but it was a week in Georgia that's not even close to as good. They didn't have their quarterback, carson Beck, who then transferred Miami because his girlfriend is there and all that. But that's besides the point. They faced Georgia and then they faced Penn State last game and it's not like Penn State kind of played their best game. Penn State should have won that game, but again, let's not go too far into that.
Speaker 2:And this is the game For all the marbles for the national championship. You have Ohio State coming in. It's Ryan Day. Ryan Day was supposed to get fired after the Michigan game. What everybody said, and he doesn't deserve to be the Ohio State coach. And anybody could do this. Anybody can be at Ohio State and win 10 games every year like he has. He has like an 85% win percent or something like that, which is the highest among head coaches that are currently coaching right now. Ryan Day has done everything he needed to do and obviously, losing to Michigan the last few years is definitely a big mark.
Speaker 1:It is a big mark.
Speaker 2:But I also think winning this championship will wipe all that out, because nobody talks about how much Kirby Smart has lost to Nick Saban. Kirby Smart's record against Nick Saban was awful and that was the best team in his own conference and they barely ever faced each other, but nobody talks about that. Nick Saban beat him for a championship Like all of those things have happened. So nobody talks about that because Kirby Smart's backed it up with national championships, because that's what matters at the end of the day, when everybody talks about what their goals is and this is how I've kind of put it to myself to make it I'm not sure if it's a coping mechanism or if it's a You're breathing in the mic so hard, my boy.
Speaker 2:I am my man. Everybody talks about how this is the goal for Ohio State. One of the main goals is beating Michigan. Yes, that has been something that's been a thing for a very long time. That is always going to be a priority in the eyes of Ohio State fans, including me. That is a priority. With the issues that Ryan has had not going to go too far into that, that is something that he has been lacking on. But the goal that Ohio State has within its reach as of right now, on this magical run where we have went and beat four of like the top five best, like top eight best teams in the country this year, we have done that. We have done. Ohio State is doing everything else and on this magical run they have a chance. If they get this, this win in this game, to clinch it. This will be the most impressive year, impressive championship year probably ever. I get it. You're talking about Michigan last year went what is it? 14-0 and won the championship last year. But again, look at the teams Ohio State has had, even with the two losses that we've had. On this match against Ohio State has a chance to clinch this and it might be one of the most impressive title runs ever, especially with it being the first 12 team playoff.
Speaker 2:And Ohio State didn't get a bye. They've had to play every game and they had the home game one, but they've had to face Oregon and they had to face Texas. We've had a very hard road. Ohio State can finish this off. They've it's been magical and everything. And Ohio State has everything in the world in their hand. All they have to do is keep playing well and keep playing how they've been playing the last two, last three games, and everything should be in hand.
Speaker 2:Because they are facing a Notre Dame team that is honestly been fighting through adversity all year. I'll give them all that credit they're coming from. Their in devastating loss was the NIU early on in the season when they lost to them at home. So, and ever since then, notre Dame has not had a great schedule. They have not really had to face all that hard of a path to get here. Their regular season schedule was kind of terrible and they faced Indiana in the in the first game of the playoff, which you know Indiana knows how to choke in these big games. So I'm like again is that really that big of a win. And then they do face and beat Penn State and beat Penn State. And but again, jace, you were more on to this than I was when we were talking about this playoff to start with was that the James Franklin factor was high and I did not believe in it because I thought their team was talented enough. But the James Franklin factor made a big difference when it mattered most and Notre Dame fought through that. And they are now here to where, in Marcus Freeman's second year as a head coach of the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, they have a chance to go and win a national title and do that for their fans. So the way I look at this game is let's talk more ball, not necessarily about the One more thing about the storylines going into this game If Ryan Day wins this title at Ohio State, it wipes away everything.
Speaker 2:Everything's clean. He will have to get over the Michigan hump, but I think with this it'll give him the room to become more stable in his own standing as a head coach at Ohio State history, because he will be amongst the greats. Urban Meyer only won one national championship at Ohio State. Urban Meyer only won one national championship at Ohio State. Jim Trussell only won one. Anybody outside of freaking not. Oh, I'm forgetting his name. What is the coach? What is the one coach? It's a state coach. I'm forgetting his name. I suck at this Woody Hayes. Woody Hayes is known like the best Ohio State coach, I'm forgetting his name.
Speaker 2:I suck at this Woody Hayes. Woody Hayes is known like the best Ohio State coach of all time, but even he, I think he had a couple titles. But other than that, like every other title, any other great coach that Ohio State's ever had has only won one title, and Ryan Day will put himself amongst that, amongst those coaches with just this one title win Notre Dame's. On the other side of that, let's talk about the ball Ohio State offense against Notre Dame's defense. Notre Dame plays a lot of man-to-man defense. That is going to be a problem when you're facing a guy like Jeremiah Smith. Do they have a cornerback that can look at Jeremiah Smith eye-to-eye and say, I'm going to keep you down this whole game? They do not. I think they're going to change it up a little bit and they're going to have to play more zones, because I just think that's a risk they just don't want to take. And as much as Texas kind of put something on the field like when Texas played Ohio State last week, they showed that if you can kind of keep everything in front of you, you can kind of limit the offense a little bit of Ohio State, but even still, ohio State was still able to get theirs. As long as Ohio State stays patient, I think it's pick your poison. I think for Notre Dame's defense for the most part, I think they're going to have to change it up a little bit. But what has got them here is playing a lot of great man defense, but I just don't think they have the man defense to stop the weapons we have on the outside. When it comes to our offensive line versus their defensive line, their defensive line is not necessarily as great as some of the defensive lines we've had to face to get to this point. They're not Texas defensive line, they're not Oregon's and not all that. So I think Ohio State's offensive line will be able to not only keep Will Howard upright, but I think they will be able to do some things in the run game, provided that we don't go back to the Michigan game plan and just run them first down every time and try to just bang your head through a wall. If you use the pass to set up the run, like we have done the last three games, that is going to be what's going to give the Ohio State the most balance and that's what's going to lead to some good rushing offense as well. And then you have that's Ohio State's. And then Will Howard. As long as he sits back, makes the checkdowns, takes what is given to him and do not try to force it, and as long as he doesn't have a bad game like Michigan where he gets concussed and I'm at this point now where that game was his worst game that he's had all season by far that I truly think he might have been concussed in that game and he shouldn't have been out on the football field and I think the coaches knew it. But he was good enough to go play and apparently the coaches didn't believe in our backup enough to go and put him in the game, so they kind of stuck with it. But they changed the game plan in a way they probably shouldn't have. But this whole playoff run they have trusted Will Howard and he has made up for it in every sense. And so as long as he doesn't turn into a quarterback he hasn't been all year I think Ohio State wins this game.
Speaker 2:Defense Ohio State's defense versus Notre Dame's offense. Sorry, I'm a little excited. You have Ohio State probably the best defense in all of college football. You have a superstar on every level of the defense. You have Jack Sawyer on the front end, that's absolutely awesome. You have Tyleek Williams at defensive tackle that's awesome. Jtt on the other side, the other defensive end slot, that's also very good. And then he had a few sacks last game before injuring his ankle where it kind of slowed him down a bit. At the linebacker spot we have two very great Sonny Stiles and Simon is like two very good linebackers that are running from side to side, can get everywhere, they're very fast and they get after the passer too when they're asked to.
Speaker 2:And then you have the three safeties.
Speaker 2:In the back you have Caleb Downs, who is the superstar safety of our team. They kind of let him sit back there and sit in the middle of the field and just he gets to be the center fielder in our defense and just make the play that comes to him. When it comes to his, his own instincts and his own field, his own film study I've talked about him before. He's like the perfect mix of troy palomalu and ed reed. Literally he's everywhere on the football field. And I'm not just saying it to suck his cock, I saying it because when he's on the field that's exactly what he does and he, if it's a one-on-one, tackle him versus another player. It's very rare that he misses a tackle and most of the time when that happens he's saving a touchdown and he's done it many times this year and he keeps doing it.
Speaker 2:And then our cornerbacks we've played great. Jermaine matthews, the young corner um that we. He had to play most of last game because of an injury to burke and he played great, did not let anything up. But again, we were facing a Texas offense really didn't have a lot. But this Notre Dame offense has less than that and I just think with everybody in Davidson they've been nosing very, very, uh, physical corner. Everybody knows like, oh, he gets a lot of penalties, but in this playoff run he has not. So with all this being the case, our defense is ready in every sense of the word and I think, with Jack having that crazy good play last game, I think this defense is on cloud nine and they have all the confidence in the world and they deserve it.
Speaker 2:Against this Notre Dame offense. There's not a bunch to talk about. Their offensive line is okay. They're talented, it's a talented offensive line, but they're hurt Like they lost their last offensive tackle that played in the last game. They're going to bring back the offensive tackle that was supposed to start for them at the beginning of the year but he had an injury that kept them out the whole season. So, but he's going to end up playing a tackle, but he has he. He has a whole year that he has not played of experience that he could have had, that he could have had, that he doesn't. So that's going to be an issue. Are they going to be able to stop this defensive line that has 18 sacks in this playoff run for Ohio State?
Speaker 2:I doubt that the wide receivers for Notre Dame are not necessarily all that special, and if Oregon and Texas's and Tennessee's wide receivers weren't able to do anything against Ohio State, I don't think Notre Dame's are going to either. And I doubt that any of my cornerbacks are just going to fall flat on their face in a big moment to get them to play that. They need to win the game, like like Penn State did in that game. That's just not gonna happen for this defense. And then you have um running backs. Jeremiah Love's awesome, like he's a very good running back, but he's had a knee injury he's pretty much been dealing with this whole time. He hasn't been able to necessarily carry a full workload when it comes to carries. He like he's like 15 to 17 carries a game in this during this playoff run. So like he's not playing as much as he probably they probably would need him to in order to be he's a very good big play receiver I mean big play running back, but I just think he's gonna be a little injured, dinged up, and I think Ohio State has been shutting down everybody's running game to this point, so I just don't think it's going to change now to where it's going to all of a sudden flip on its head.
Speaker 2:And then the quarterback for Notre Dame is Riley Leonard has not been all that special. He is a very good runner of the football. Like he's a very tough runner, he'll run between the tackles but when it comes to consist, can he control the game by throwing the football over and over and over again? He cannot. He's not close to the quarterback Will Howard is. You know there were some people like Emmanuel Acho funny enough, because he's had his own issues at Fox, but he was talking about how, amongst the quarterbacks that were left in the playoff last week, he was, like Will Howard's, the worst one of all of them by far.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, and everybody started bringing up, if you look on social media, people start looking at the stats and all that. But I'm just like when you watch these two quarterbacks play, riley Leonard has, he has made big plays and big in some moments, but it's with the help of a bad defense or like something bad happening on the other side. It is not Will Howard making the ultimate play against a good defense. That is like that is what's doing it. It is not Will Howard making the ultimate play against a good defense. That is like that is what's doing it. It is him throwing to a wide open receiver because a cornerback fell on that play, like it's those things that I just don't think, that are replic, that you can replicate, and I just think this defense for Ohio State is on such a cloud nine and on have they have so much confidence that I just don't think there's anything this Notre Dame defense is going to be able to.
Speaker 2:Notre Dame offense is going to be able to surprise or spring on Ohio state and for them not to be ready and not be able to adjust. So the way I see this game in special teams I probably give to Notre Dame. They're probably very, they're very good special teams team, a special teams unit I probably units probably better word than team on that so very good unit. They can make some plays, they can. If they can spring one, that can definitely be something in their favor. But I just I think ohio state has been on a mission this year and I think, even with the special teams, yes, have they gone, made a big play, like when it comes to returning the ball? No, but they have not let it hurt them.
Speaker 2:So I think, with all that being the case, I think Ohio State definitely has a lot more edges in this game than anything, and as long as they can stay clean and play well and Will Howard not make a ton of mistakes which he hasn't really this whole playoff run, outside of the one mistake that he had against Texas where he tried to force it to Jeremiah Smith, outside of that, he's played clean, he's played great and made great decisions. And I just don't think Notre Dame, with the things that they would need to happen for them to kind of even out this game, with as many edges as Ohio State has in this game, I just don't think Notre Dame can really ask for all that and like, really expect it, and I think Ohio State's on a mission They've. If you're going to beat them, it was going to be last game where they made a bunch of mistakes and kept Texas in it, because I think Ohio State could have blown Texas off the field too if they kind of got their act together earlier on in the first half and scored more points instead of shooting themselves in the foot with penalties. So I think, all that being the case, ohio State's going to win this game. They're going to cover.
Speaker 2:I'm going to go ahead and go with a 45 and a half. I'm not sure it's probably going to score that much. I'll probably go like a 30. Let's go 33. 33 to 15. 33 is a weird number to get to 33 is a weird number to get to.
Speaker 1:How do you get to?
Speaker 2:33? That's insane. That's the insane way to get there. Let's go 34.
Speaker 1:34 is a better number.
Speaker 2:The way to get to 33 is insane. There's a lot of things that have to happen. I'll go 34 to 15. That's what I'll come to. I just don't think Notre Dame's offense can score enough to really make Ohio State scared. In this game Everybody keeps talking about, can Notre Dame bait Ohio State into playing like they played against Michigan?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:I think they're past this. I think they're past this. I think they're past that. I think Texas tried to do that and they did a very good job. I think they're the closest thing to what Texas is when it comes to that defense In better return spots. I think their secondary is better than what Michigan's was.
Speaker 2:But I think that was a total collapse by the coaching staff by Ryan Day and Chip Kelly to want them to play a certain way, by the coaching staff by Ryan Day and Chip Kelly to want them to play a certain way, and I think they put the players in a bad spot. As long as Ryan Day and Chip Kelly stay focused and stay, keep their head on the ball, they're this is not going to happen to this team. They're not going to fall for that trap again. So I just think, with all that being the case, ohio State has the decided advantage and they'll take advantage of it, and I will be buying national championship gear after on Tuesday. That's exactly what happened. I'll be buying national championship gear on Tuesday. That's exactly what will happen. I'll be buying national championship gear the hat, a shirt. If there's pants, I'll be buying those. I'm going to have a whole set and it's all going to look very good because not only are we going to be the champions of the first four-team playoff, we're going to be the first champions of the 12-team playoff too.
Speaker 2:And fuck y'all, anybody that had anything to say about Ohio State, anybody that wanted to say something bad about Ryan Day, the Ryan Day part. I feel I agree with some of the Ohio State fans that had a problem with the Michigan thing, but I just think it was very it was way big overreaction and I knew this was possible from Ohio State and I believed in it from day one and I never wavered on that. And every I've gotten, I've gotten to strut around to a lot of people talk about how right I am because of I knew this run was inside of them and a lot of people didn't, and I don't want to see anybody on this train that wasn't on it before this. This whole thing happened. That's it. That's it, and I think Ohio State's going to finish this job and they're going to get the job done and this team will be legends. They may not be legends when it comes to having enough gold pants, but they'll have the one thing that goddamn matters, and it's the championship, and that's the one thing that every single college football team. That is reasonably good. That's the main goal. We're going to have it and we're going to take it for everybody else, especially in the year where so many other teams thought they had a chance. And we're going to go ahead and run it and win that, like everybody thought we were going to before the season started. Good, I got to be a little arrogant there at the end and that felt good because I think I've had to be the guy in the corner talking, have to be like oh, I think we'll do it, but I'm like we're here now. This is one game season, this is it. This is for all the marbles, and I think Ohio State has backed it up enough to where I should be confident coming into this. I think Ohio State's going to finish the job because they know that this story won't be great unless they finish the job. And I believe in these players, I believe in Ryan day. I think they have their stuff together and they're going to get the job done. So, and I don't think Notre Dame has enough form. I just don't. I hate. I hate for that to have come out so negative about Notre Dame, but their road to get here was not hard enough.
Speaker 2:I think Ohio state's been hardened by all of the different, all the ups and downs that they've had in their journey not just the losses, but just the wins too. They've had to go through some harder, some hardships, and they've especially in the playoff they've passed with flying colors every time, even when they didn't play well against Texas, and they've they've done their. They don't they needed to do. Now they're going to finish the job. It's like I said last podcast, it's like 2014 one. It was the game against Bama that was the harder game. It was the Oregon game that was so much easier in comparison because Bama was the one that was the mental hurdle that they had to get over to go ahead and win the national championship.
Speaker 2:I think this is the same way, just like for Georgia a couple years ago when they beat TCU. Their harder game was against Ohio State. They rolled in and just rolled TCU because TCU didn't have anything for him, and they barely got away against Ohio state off of missed field goal and some calls not going Ohio state's way. So I think Ohio state's on this magical run and they're going to finish the job. Am I too crazy. Am I? Am I being? Am I being overzealous? Or just like sipping my like drinking my own Kool-Aid too much? Probably a little, probably a little bit too much, right Dang?
Speaker 1:I could not tell you. I don't know how to feel. I've never been in this kind of position.
Speaker 2:Well, you have, when it comes to Joe Burrow, like he gives you that confidence.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it doesn't count.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it definitely does.
Speaker 1:No, it definitely counts. No, it doesn't count.
Speaker 2:I haven't felt the type of confidence NFL team in so long for many different reasons. But you know, at least you've gotten that to some degree in one of those for one of the teams you played for. You know, I at least get to feel that confidence from my, from my Ohio State Buckeyes, because I haven't felt that way about the Steelers in a long time. So it is what it is, that's it. Do you have a score prediction on Ohio State? Do you think they're going to win or lose? I know you I don't care, but you know ball enough to where you can make a good statement as to how you think the game is going to go.
Speaker 1:I'm so confident that OSU is going to win. There's no reason they should lose this right, and the fact that there's no reason they should lose this means that I feel like they're going to lose this.
Speaker 2:Everybody's been saying they're going to win this.
Speaker 1:And my brain has finally went what happens if they don't? So you know, just think about that.
Speaker 2:Dang, how'd you do that to me? You had to drop that one little seed of doubt. I don't think that's enough for me right now.
Speaker 1:I believe that they should kick the shit out of Notre Dame. They should. They should, but the fact that no one thinks they're going to lose this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's now because everybody's so on. It makes you think like, oh, there's something off here. No, I get it, and I kind of felt that way after last week. When it comes to Texas, I was like everybody's picking Ohio State now. It makes me feel a little nervous. But then Ohio State went into that game, didn't play their best and they still pulled it out. I felt like that was the dragon right. Everybody was on Ohio State's side at that point. They weren't just a team proving a point anymore, it was Ohio State having to finish the job. When it comes to people's expectations, and even with Texas right.
Speaker 1:People believe that hey there's ways they can lose this game Right right. People believe that they may, they may there's there's ways they can lose this game, right, but no one, not a single fucking person, has said that osu is going to lose against notre dame. Everybody's like, oh, she's gonna kick shit out of her hand.
Speaker 2:Notre dame, keep the game close. That's yes. That's usually the question, the fact that everybody's saying this is.
Speaker 1:Just put this thing in my brain that osu is gonna lose this game other than lou holtz.
Speaker 2:That's it, remember remember last year when Other than Lou Holtz, that's it Remember last year when Ryan Day, after the game was like where's Lou Holtz at right now?
Speaker 2:and all that. Lou Holtz recently tweeted that obviously he's rooting for Notre Dame. He said Ohio State may have all the talent, but Notre Dame has the heart. As long as they run the ball, the ball and play good defense and believe in that They'll win by three points, we're winning. And he said the only reason we don't win Is if we want Ryan Day to keep his job. And I'm like, for all that bravado, just for you to say you win by three points Is crazy, crazy.
Speaker 1:Makes me believe you. Really Crazy, it makes me believe. You really don't believe what you're saying no, Dude, if you're going to have a bravado like that, you say we're going by a fucking touchdown.
Speaker 2:Exactly the idea that the first thing you talk about when you're talking about for your team or for something, if you have to mention their heart one time.
Speaker 1:They're cooked, they're cooked, they're cooked. Dude, you have screwed that team.
Speaker 2:It's like the little engine that could. That's why you want to start talking about your team. Notre Dame is not just a little like a small looking team. They are a team that should belong on the same field as these other teams. But it's just. They're not Ohio State right now and that's okay. But the fact that you mentioned their heart first is crazy and it's like the only way we lose because we want Ryan to keep his job is insane.
Speaker 1:Dude, shut up. Y'all are about to lose by 15.
Speaker 2:He needs to go take another nap. He needs to go take another nap.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing is. Everybody's so confident. Everybody in Ohio, everybody around the United States is like Ohio State's going to win. Notre Dame has no shot.
Speaker 2:And my brain goes but what if they don't? Yeah, I know, I, I understand, I understand you're thinking that's totally reasonable, because I had that thought last week. So I, I, that's, it's my team, we're talking about so and I'm over that now.
Speaker 1:But again, I totally understand you like having that thought, because everybody's so confident and I'm like I've seen games like this where everybody's like, oh, they're gonna win because you know where that thought's gonna hit me is.
Speaker 2:When I see a clip of desmond howard picking ohio state the troll of all trolls being for michigan picking ohio state, it's gonna make me like oh god, no we're fucked we're fucked. That clown is picking us.
Speaker 1:I don't want to oh no, we're cooked, we're a problem. This is a problem because the moment he picks you guys, he's a cook, he's a fucking clown he's a fucking clown.
Speaker 2:He's a fucking clown. He's such a clown. Oh my God, I hate Desmond Howard. He's so high on my list of the people that I would love to assassinate. I'm like seriously. It's a weird list to have bro Saying that just got you put on a list, a federal list, right, is that?
Speaker 1:what you're saying? What do you mean? You're already on a sex finder list no, I'm not.
Speaker 2:I'm not. No, I know no we'll go, actually minor younger brother.
Speaker 1:Right now you're on that list. I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good, all right, all right, that's.
Speaker 2:That's for the college football stuff. Got through all that um, now it's on the nfl real quick.
Speaker 1:I would like to say that only like three of those sacks were Sam Darnold's fault. I went back to Of the nine. Yes, Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay Okay okay, now you want to keep up with Sam Darnold.
Speaker 2:Three of them were his fault.
Speaker 1:Three of them were you were holding the ball too long.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Five of them were. They were playing really hard coverage and spinning these tackles, true. And then one of them was like that's, you step right into it. That's 50-50. You should have got the ball. You probably should have got the ball out a little faster. Yeah, but they should have blocked a little longer.
Speaker 2:But that offensive line has been a problem all year for them. So you can't use that as a new excuse.
Speaker 1:And Sean McVay was like I got this, so we Right.
Speaker 2:Sean McVay's for the Rams.
Speaker 1:Who'd they play? The Vikings, the Rams?
Speaker 2:The Rams play the Vikings. That's what I said. Yeah but are you talking about Kevin O'Connell, the coach for the Vikings?
Speaker 1:No, sean McVay the Rams coach. Okay, fine, sorry, I was misunderstanding. He came in with an amazing game plan. We are going to press them off the line and blitz five. Yeah, we're going to have one less safety so that we can throw somebody up there faster.
Speaker 2:Yep, and it worked Because they saw how Sam Darn got spooked against Detroit and Detroit doesn't have nearly the secondary that the Rams have right now.
Speaker 1:They did the same thing. We're going to blitz five.
Speaker 2:We're going to make him off the field.
Speaker 1:We're going to make him have to make a fast decision and you're not going to have the time to because we're going to get in the backfield. There's a lot of plays where they were already in the backfield.
Speaker 2:Ball snapped and he's already in the backfield Exactly, and as soon as he gets spooked everything's out the window, everything's out. The window.
Speaker 1:He was out there seeing ghosts, but five of those sacks weren't his fault. One of those was mutual. Three of those were your fault. You should have dropped that bitch off to your tight end or an open. Jordan Addison, who took the short route yeah. But when they're in your face like that, okay, cool, you did also hold the ball too long yeah.
Speaker 2:But he's always held the ball too long.
Speaker 2:Agreed and that's what made it so insane, because he was so good at holding the ball all year and he was moving in the pocket, he was confident. But then, as soon as that Detroit game happened, man, he started seeing ghosts again and that only continued in that game against the Rams. And they ate him alive Alive. And even when they weren't getting pressure and he was able to get the ball out, he was throwing to nobody Like he was way off. His accuracy was way off because he was totally spooked, like his whole confidence was shot and there was no ifs, ands or buts about it.
Speaker 2:And again, this may not be a one-game thing. I think this was 10 days ago. He had the whole world, at least as of the day of the game. And 10 days ago he had the whole world, at least as of the day of the game. He had the whole world in the palm of his hands. He had a nice contract, a generational wealth type of money, and now he's going to be looking for a job, hoping to get Baker Mayfield money. Again, it's $30 million a year, that's nothing to scoff at. But he was potentially going to get $100 million if he finishes his job and probably stays with Minnesota. But now you see Kevin O'Connell, after that game it looks like he's done with him. He's ready to get JJ McCarthy back, at least get his young quarterback, and then just teach him that way, and they're willing to start from scratch in that area. Sam Darnold will still get paid from somebody, but it won't be from a championship winning team.
Speaker 1:So like this, they send five.
Speaker 2:And one came in free.
Speaker 1:And they send their linebacker and he goes up Free. Yeah, they did it multiple times. Yeah, they do it here. They send five, spin the tackle, one comes free.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:This one is his fault. Yeah, that one's his fault. As soon as you get off the first try to tackle, one comes free. Yep, this one is his fault. Yeah, you got to get the ball out.
Speaker 2:That one's his fault. As soon as you get off the first try to tackle, you get away. You throw that ball away.
Speaker 1:But you saw it, they immediately sent that linebacker.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:To spook Sam Donald, to make him have to get out of the pocket because it was collapsing on him oh yeah, runs a runaway and the linebackers stand in there waiting for him. They had a great. It was as much a great game plan as sam donald need to get the ball out faster. Yep, but five of them weren't his fault, like the first one I showed you, that's what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2:he's in your lap, he's in your, he's in your lap for sure.
Speaker 1:Five times that happened.
Speaker 2:Three times you fucked up, he still was able to get the ball out 40 something times in that game.
Speaker 1:He did nothing. He did, did nothing.
Speaker 2:Yes, so he had a bad game. He had a very bad game, but the Rams also had a really good game plan. Oh yeah, no question.
Speaker 1:They were out there stuffing receivers and then giving two guys, jefferson and Jefferson. They were throwing a DB on Hawkinson because they wanted to keep both linebackers up there.
Speaker 2:Hawkinson was the only one who really did anything in that game Because he had a DB on him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're like we're going to have to let somebody get some yards, so we'd rather be the least big play threat. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it worked.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I wanted to talk about that because I like watching the YouTube clips of it, so I was watching it at work today and I was like that's I was watching the sacks and I was like that's not exactly his fault, oh no.
Speaker 2:So I kind of slow-mo'd it and I was like, no, they got the tackles, no their offensive line has been a problem all year.
Speaker 1:They would just rip the hole so that their linebacker just blitzed through it.
Speaker 2:It was a great game when they had all their offensive line issues all year, nobody was Willing to take the chance Of. We're going to let Jamar Chase and Jordan Addison have their way with one-on-one coverage.
Speaker 1:What did I say Jordan Addison have their way with one-on-one coverage.
Speaker 2:What did I say, jordan Addison?
Speaker 1:You said Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2:Sorry, justin Jefferson, my bad. I said some receiver's name and it was a star receiver, just not the right one.
Speaker 1:It was the wrong receiver.
Speaker 2:Was it better than just forgetting the name altogether?
Speaker 1:Not exactly.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, I tried.
Speaker 1:I guess you were close. Everything about the receiver is similar, except it's the wrong dude.
Speaker 2:Justin Jefferson. I remember the other one.
Speaker 1:You didn't remember Jordan Addison. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:That's weird. Not many teams are willing to take the chance of I'm going to just cover these two great wide receivers one-on-one to send extra dudes, because we're like, oh, we're just going to get burnt on the back end. But as soon as Detroit did it, it just opened up the world for LA Rams because we're like, oh, we have great pass rushers If we just send an extra guy, that was their chance. It's like, hey, we're going to take a chance here because we're already the underdogs in the playoffs.
Speaker 1:Might as well, if we can spook him.
Speaker 2:it goes our way. They rolled them and it spooked him and they rolled, the game wasn't close.
Speaker 1:I agree it was a good game plan. It was a very good game plan.
Speaker 2:It was perfect game planning by them and this may be the rest of Sam Darnold's career is if you can spook him, it's over. So, again, this is like one of those things where you could have nipped this whole thing in the bud. If you just won this game, if you just won that first Detroit game. You could have won this game, no he could still lose that game.
Speaker 1:If you win this first round game and then go lose to a better team.
Speaker 2:I think you're okay. You still get some money. You'll get like a $40 million and it's not necessarily something that the stench isn't back on you fully all together.
Speaker 1:But now the stench is on you, bro. The Vikings their question like oh no, they're done with him.
Speaker 2:Is this your job? See even Kevin O'Connell's face during that game. So many times is like that dude looks done. He looks like he's done with Darnold now.
Speaker 1:I know, but you wouldn't go back to Jason McCarthy.
Speaker 2:But again, he was going to start anyway. So they believed him to a certain extent.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be honest Of the talent, of what Sam Darnold truly can do, because no one we can't deny that coming out of college, sam Darnold was that fucking good.
Speaker 2:Oh no, he has all the tools.
Speaker 1:Tool-wise, he's awesome he has a very good arm. He can actually see a field pretty well. Yeah, he stopped throwing interceptions for the most part. He still threw a couple this year. Yeah, I think the tools are there. I just think a better off team, a team that's better.
Speaker 2:But again, there's not going to be many teams that are better than this 14-win Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1:I agree, no, a team with a better O-line. If a team with a better O-line comes out, I'm like hey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but a team with a better O-line is not going to have the receivers that he just had.
Speaker 1:True, but again, if he has a better O-line I think he can actually make it. It's hard to tell from this. Being receivers are Justin Jefferson, jordan, addison, tj. I can't tell how good you are. Your receivers are that good. It's not like Joe Borov. I will never doubt that man's talent. I don't doubt that if we swap him with shitty receivers, he's still that fucking good.
Speaker 2:His numbers go down but he's still that good, yeah, we've seen Sam Darnold in every situation. He was with the Jets where he had nobody and he sucked then. And now he's had everything except for like an offensive line and he's like he's did so well, and then one specific game plan locks him up like that's the.
Speaker 1:That's the thing that makes it worse is that he played so well all year. That's what makes it hard. If you, if you were as good as a quarterback as he has seemed to be one game plan can't lock you up and not just lock him up frozen destroyed.
Speaker 2:Destroyed him. He destroyed him. He was totally spooked. He was seeing ghosts again, just like he was with the Jets playing New England. So I just think, with all that being the case, it's just. You know, it's a stench that he's, it's going to be hard to get a lot of ax spray is going to be needed to get rid of it.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to cap at you. I say we take his career on the Jets out the window, because God damn, that Jets team did nothing for him. That's true. They had him for four years. Didn't draft a single fucking receiver for him, didn't draft a single O-lineman for him, didn't draft a single good defensive player for him he had nobody.
Speaker 2:And then they got rid of him, got all those things and then brought Aaron Rodgers in. He sucked.
Speaker 1:No, no, those things brought zach wilson in. Yes, he really sucked. And then he brought aaron rodgers in and he's really really sucked. Yeah, uh, and now they're sitting back like damn it, we should just kept sam donald, he's clearly okay they.
Speaker 2:They did better with fruit. They did if they did better with zach wilson last year. It's crazy, dude. They have a worse record now than what they did last year with Zach Wilson. It's the craziest, one of the craziest stories in sports Insane.
Speaker 1:All right, they got to sign Garrett Wilson. You think Garrett Wilson re-signs?
Speaker 2:No, he still has another year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but do you think he re-signs?
Speaker 2:The way this is going right now. No, garrett Wilson's a winner. He wants to win.
Speaker 1:You Wilson's a winner. He wants to win.
Speaker 2:You think Saltz Gardner does. I think he'll get so much money.
Speaker 1:I think he'd more resign for money.
Speaker 2:Right and the defensive side hasn't always been a problem, so I think he can probably be more okay with how things have gone.
Speaker 1:But I think Garrett Wilson can be like I can go somewhere else and get the same, if not more money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then not potentially get a quarterback that actually can get me the ball that I can believe in on a game-in-game basis?
Speaker 1:He's a three-year thousander receiver. Yeah.
Speaker 2:He's awesome.
Speaker 1:With no buddies. So now I think he's probably sitting back like they're going to use him.
Speaker 2:He got the best-named quarterback. He got the biggest-named quarterback and played the worst. He did more with Zach Wilson at the helm.
Speaker 1:Because at least Zach Wilson sent back. Like a Garrett Wilson's out there, I'm just going to throw it to him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, you're the number one option, so you're always going to get the ball regardless of how bad he is With Rodgers.
Speaker 1:He's trying to spread the ball around and he has his boys.
Speaker 2:He has Devontae Adams, he has Al Mazzara that's the name. Another name I managed to remember is insane, but he has. He has some of his buddies that he's throwing the ball to, while you have Kara Wilson over there just sitting there like I'm just running.
Speaker 1:I'm just running, I'm running routes.
Speaker 2:Just running routes. I'm getting a lot of cardio in today.
Speaker 1:You got fucking.
Speaker 2:Not playing football, I'm running cardio, goddamn.
Speaker 1:Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 2:Insane. But Kyle Pitts is useless. I don't understand with Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1:I don't know, they just don't use him whatsoever. I hope he doesn't sign resign. I hope we can go. Just hey, you want some money?
Speaker 2:We got some money and a quarterback We'll pay you, and a really good quarterback. We don't want to use that money on defense, so come on, come on over.
Speaker 1:We don't want to use that money on defense or T Higgins, so you're a good replacement. Goodness gracious, is he good enough to just put him at receiver.
Speaker 2:No, well, I guess he could just be a super side receiver.
Speaker 1:Like a Kelsey type thing, because Kelsey only gets receivers, kelsey gets DBs, he don't get linebackers.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he was definitely to a point where he was getting some good safeties that just know how to cover.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, no, he could definitely be a Kelsey type for sure I think Kyle Pitts would fit in the Bengals.
Speaker 1:We loved Gusecki. Gusecki is a Kelsey type of I don't block, I can't block. We have two other dudes that can block, because Gusecki can't block. Gusecki's not on the contract, so if we're not going to re-sign him, the Falcons probably won't keep Kyle Pitts because he's done nothing. That's a great guy to go sign, no for sure.
Speaker 2:All the talent in the world, especially if you're not going to go get a All the talent in the world, maybe draft. Give you some room to draft a wide receiver instead of having to sign somebody. So I don't know, it's just are you having a cramp right now?
Speaker 1:I was you were taking too long to move. I was going to kick on so I didn't want to break your shit.
Speaker 2:I got it last second. It's all good.
Speaker 1:It's all good, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. Now, sorry, stiff cramp bro.
Speaker 2:My bad. No, those are the worst, especially your calf, bro. Oh, those are killers. Those are killers right there.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:So Coach's stuff, I'll just Coach's stuff week. Apparently, they've talked. He's talked to Dion.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 2:They've had a conversation. Here's my thing. Do you think Dion would want to coach in the NFL without and have Shador coming to again? I guess Shiloh's coming too, but who's going to draft him and not want to be able to coach his son?
Speaker 1:He can't cover at all.
Speaker 2:He's a safety, he's not even a good safety. Safeties need to have more physical skills.
Speaker 1:He hits really hard and that's all he's very good for.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you need to be able to catch who you're trying to hit so slow. So the way I look at it is that if he was going to go to the Cowboys which I'm guessing is an actual possibility, but I don't think he's going to want to do this without his son, and the Cowboys are picking at 12. So how in the hell are they going to try to trade up to go get Shador Sanders?
Speaker 1:Not even the top 10.
Speaker 2:They're not in the top 10. They're at 12. Who?
Speaker 1:are you going to trade with? Maybe like the Patriots, but there's other. But that would only put you at five.
Speaker 2:Unless you're guaranteeing that all the teams in front of you all think Shador is bad. That's happened before. Everybody watched Levis drop to the second round. They come to a consensus real quick. But I think Shador is better than Will Levis. I'm just going to say it. I'm just going to say it. He doesn't put mayo in his coffee, so I just think great decision making, great decision making.
Speaker 1:He can make decisions. He can throw the football in the NFL do.
Speaker 2:I think he's necessarily the talent like does it? I think he's necessarily like he moves well.
Speaker 1:Enough to really no, you were tweaking on our draft night, he puts mayo in his coffee?
Speaker 2:he doesn't make and you would look to me like that was the first round where everybody was like, oh is, will Levis was going to get picked here. I'm like no, he shouldn't get picked here at all. And then he slides the whole first round. I've never been so vindicated before in my life for having a take about a draft. Was there a? Quarterback take on the first round of that draft.
Speaker 2:It was Kenny Pickett. Yeah, I know, I hated that too. I hated that too. I hated it all. I hated all of it. I hated all of it.
Speaker 1:I've never been so that draft is stinky at quarterbacks it was awful zero it was so bad.
Speaker 2:Who was the number one overall pick in that draft? Um, I think that was yours a tackle. What year draft would that have?
Speaker 1:been 2022 okay or was it, yeah, 202, that'd be their draft 2022 draft um 2022 draft.
Speaker 2:The first pick was Trayvon Walker that's what it was, because he's been done very little. But Aiden Hutchinson was two. Derek Stingley was three. Sauce was four I don't know who this draft was. Kayvon Thibodeau was five. Actually, that's a really good draft If you're not picking a quarterback. Ikea Kwanu for Carolinas Decent, but he's kind of shaky. It's decent. Evan Neal for the Giants is very good. He's good. Drake London at eight. You don't like Drake London, but he's turned out to be very good.
Speaker 1:Oh, Garrett Wilson, Olave Charles.
Speaker 2:Cross been a good tackle for the Seahawks. Garrett Wilson at 10. Chris Olave at 11. Jamison Williams at 12. Yeah, jordan Davis at 13. The sly of the draft, because he's awesome right now, one of the best defense tackles in the league. Kenyon Green for Houston. Jahan Dotson, washington. This is a very good draft. Otherwise, for anything worth, the Bengals pick. The Bengals pick because they would have been longer right. Bengals are at 31. Daxon oh.
Speaker 1:Ah, Daxon Hill draft. That was this draft.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Ah, my pain is back. Ah, yes, yes, yes Want me to tell you some of the players that were picked after him.
Speaker 1:Nope, not really. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 2:Let's see After him we're talking. Christian Watson was picked by the Packers. At that point they had T. It's not great, Brees Hall.
Speaker 1:We still had Joe Mixon.
Speaker 2:Let's see Kyler Gordon. If you want defense players, you got Kyler Gordon. Cornerback for the Bears.
Speaker 1:He's been mid. That's the word on the deck Mid is better.
Speaker 2:Oh, how about David Ojabo? He got picked at 45. Jaquan Brisker for the Bears. He's awesome safety. That was a safety you could have picked.
Speaker 1:He was awesome.
Speaker 2:He was at Penn State too. He played for a great team Taequann Thornton for the oh with Todd Pickens. He hasn't worked out all that great, but no, there were some great players defensively picked. After that you could have had a chance at Texas was good coming out of college. Yeah, but I think they just always had him like they wanted to put him at corner.
Speaker 1:It's crazy, well we tried him at safety and he was worse. Yeah, so what the fuck do you do? What do you mean? That was the problem. The year after Jesse Bates, he was at corner and the year after that we put him at safety and he was way worse at safety. What are we supposed to do with it? You can't play safety and you can't play corner you can't play football here.
Speaker 2:It's looking that way.
Speaker 1:But he's still on the team.
Speaker 2:He ended up getting hurt this season. Right, he was playing bad and then he ended up getting hurt. You're like oh, finally.
Speaker 1:I know, but we still have another what year with him Before he's not under contract? Yeah, because you're not getting a first-round option.
Speaker 2:No, they're not giving the fifth-year option whatsoever. Fifth, fifth year option is not an option for that guy Him or Miles Murphy.
Speaker 1:Get rid of them both. They both sucked. You picked first round defense twice in a row and they both sucked, sucked so bad.
Speaker 2:So bad.
Speaker 1:But then I sit back and I'm like how'd y'all stop being able to draft defense? You drafted, logan Wilson, the third fucking round, right. You drafted his name's Akeem Davis Gaither, the other backup linebacker. He's fine, he's not good, he's not great, he can be a linebacker.
Speaker 2:Good backup, good backup, he's a good backup, yeah.
Speaker 1:You drafted him in like the fifth, so why can't you Cantillabrit, despite what he's?
Speaker 2:been was still a fifth-round pick. He was over. He was over. What is it Overachieving for where you picked him at, when he started playing well and?
Speaker 1:now he's achieving what he was picked at this year.
Speaker 2:he's definitely been a drop-off.
Speaker 1:This year he's been a drop-off. A drop-off is an understatement. He's been ass. Falling off the face of the earth. I don't know what he's doing different, but this dude sucks so bad. He played so well last year.
Speaker 2:You were ready to like oh, we have another one-quarter now. Legit, Legit.
Speaker 1:He was so good last year he was a top-ten DB Right.
Speaker 2:This year. What the fuck? You would say like where's DJ Ivy at? Where's DJ Ivy at? Dude, he came out, he was balling.
Speaker 1:He had three interceptions in like the first couple games. Week six rolls around on ACO. I'm like, oh fuck, everybody's going to run past us. He's small but he can fucking cover.
Speaker 2:He's staying on you. You know why he can cover Because he's so fast. He's sticky, sticky corner. He ran a 4-3, dude.
Speaker 1:And he's skinny, he's like six foot, so he is pretty skinny, but he's better he's what Emmanuel Forbes Was supposed to be.
Speaker 2:Thank God we didn't draft him. I wanted him too. Huge mistake. Huge mistake.
Speaker 1:He looks, he looks ill.
Speaker 2:How skinny he is In the arms of the.
Speaker 1:Every time I was looking he played fine For the Rams.
Speaker 2:He's not a starter for them.
Speaker 1:No, but he played in the game. He played fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but again, when the Washington got him, they wanted him to be their star corner. Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's a slot corner at best.
Speaker 2:If that you're going to have some big tight ends, they're going to eat him for breakfast.
Speaker 1:I agree, I think about it. My slot tight end is it was Newton 26, who was too fucking slow. Yeah, he's slow, he's just a really big DB.
Speaker 2:He's a great slot corner Mike Hilton Again you have good face, tight ends.
Speaker 1:Maybe some slower receivers. He's fast enough to Well, we had him on Mike Williams. Look how well that fucking went. He did the same. It was a little dig route and he bit. I saw him bite and I was like, oh, mike Williams, the one play in that game and he bit.
Speaker 2:I saw him bite and I was like, oh my boy, the one play in that game, the only play.
Speaker 1:That was the only big downfield play that was made all game. Yeah, and it's because Newton bites, he's going to bite. He will always bite on the fucking route, no question, if it's a dick route, he's biting. I watched Terry McLaurin do it and I was like, oh fuck, you can see it on screen now, like you can just see him before they go out. I see him do it and I see him go to B.
Speaker 2:And then I see him hit all fours.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh fuck, it's a touchdown Out loud, oh shit, and he just lands in his brother's house. I'm like, oh, I want to die. I want to die.
Speaker 2:Yeah, back to the door. So if he goes to the Cowboys he could slide, he could potentially, who knows? But again, when the first, couple teams are the Titans the Giants, no, the freaking Browns.
Speaker 1:Oh, Titans, Browns, Giants Raiders.
Speaker 2:You're talking about, the Raiders are at five. I think All of those teams need a quarterback. A lot of those teams need a quarterback.
Speaker 1:So unless they all are convinced they don't need him, or if y'all need to start trading up.
Speaker 2:but here's the problem You're already paying a quarterback $60 million a year, coming off an injury, another injury. What do you do with him? So, with all that being the case, or maybe Deion just says I just want to coach in the NFL. This is the job. Screw, not having my son or not having him.
Speaker 1:Once he leaves, colorado falls back to obscurity. Yeah, oh, okay, yeah, there's double checking.
Speaker 2:Let's be honest, if he were to stay they're probably going to be around a 6-7 win team next year. But again, that's so much better than what they were. But is that what they brought Deion in for? But I guess for Deion it's more about he brings the flash, even if they not really have a lot of substance to it.
Speaker 1:He makes them competitive.
Speaker 2:No, they were competitive this year, but again being competitive, but they're in a bad league, so like the fact you're non-competitive.
Speaker 1:For a school like that, competitive is good.
Speaker 2:This team was only this good because they had Travis and Shador on this team. That's it. So like now you're going to be starting probably a rookie quarterback Sorry, a freshman quarterback that's coming out of high school, and this guy was the guy they ended up getting he's underage. He reclassified, so like he's going to be 17 walking in, he ain't even fully grown.
Speaker 2:So he's not even fully grown and this dude is barely six foot. That's why Julian Lewis, I believe, is his name he was once at USC and they decided not to get him. They got a different quarterback because he's not growing enough. So you're going to get a small quarterback at 17 years old to go play behind potentially a bad offensive line I'm like probably about that private O line and the defense is going to take a couple of steps back. So I'm like you had a lot of older players. So you're going to you're going to have to portal again in this year's portals and we're near what past portals have been when it comes to talent. So cause all these teams. They want to keep their players. All of them have money now to really pay the players. So, with all that being the case, I don't know it's a very weird thing. And does Dion want to deal with Jerry? But again, I think Jerry and him could probably come to an understanding, maybe mutually exclusive, but mutually beneficial.
Speaker 1:Not with how Dion's going to want control.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, dion's going to want his own brand to be a part of it. But, but Dion brings so much of what Jerry likes.
Speaker 1:I think Jerry it may work to pull it off. That's why what didn't he play for Jerry Jones before?
Speaker 2:yeah, he played for him. Yeah, yeah, so that may work.
Speaker 1:He wanted Dion in the first place when he got onto the team. He wanted that flash, one of that flair right, and it worked he's gonna bring it as a coach too, and that's it.
Speaker 2:but and I think he's a leader of men there's no question that Deion is a good head coach. I've never questioned that part.
Speaker 1:I agree, but I don't know. I think he's a culture-building head coach. Right Less of a winning head coach. He's a culture coach.
Speaker 2:He's a culture coach and, again, as long as you get the right coordinators in, that's fine, but that's something you have to deal with, so who knows about that?
Speaker 2:hopefully zach taylor's fired here soon apparently one of the teams that are all in on ben johnson is the raiders. I get it with tom brady at at a leadership position now with him having ownership stake of the team. That makes sense. But the problem is, do you have a quarterback, like I? I would see ben johnson be okay with that job because he'd have more control over how this game because really it's brock bowers and then offensively you can do whatever you want. Like you can build that team however you like. Like you could start with an o'connell, probably for this year, or draft a quarterback and you could just kind of build it up from there and do it the slow way. But like we compare that to other places that kind of already have established guys you really have no control. I can. So that part it might be a little bit of a step back when it comes to right now, but I think ben johnson at a place like that would be able to build for the future a little more.
Speaker 2:I still think the bears are still an option. But who knows, the bears are so badly ran maybe he just never looks at that as a real, real spot to go to. Let's hope not. That would set for him or the bangles potentially be an option they have. Get rid of that. They're not going to. They're not going to do it.
Speaker 2:I'm begging they're going to have to pay that man out to not work. Just fire him.
Speaker 1:We're paying him to work and he's not doing a good job.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's.
Speaker 1:If somebody don't do a good job, you fire them. You fire, fire, give them his last check and go home.
Speaker 2:They're not going to do it. They're not going to do it. But, yeah, with all that being the case, and then any of the coaching things that I know that I had no, because nobody's really been. Everybody's waiting on the rest of the playoff teams to kind of get done so they can make their choices. So we'll see about all that, but that's it on the coaching stuff. Other news Chiefs plan to activate Watson, their other cornerback, to play in this upcoming game. Jalen Watson, If they have him, it's going to make it a lot tougher on Houston to go ahead and win that game. You have Jim Harbaugh to have two different procedures in the offseason.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:A hip procedure and a heart one. Yeah, a little weird, but again he's a little older than his brother is, so those are weird type of stuff that you have to get over the offseason. And then we talked about this before the podcast. But Deontay Johnson going back to the Ravens just so they can get a pick Insane, the most cutthroat thing ever. They got rid of him because he freaked out and then now they're just going to pick him up just for him to sit on their team for a little bit and then him try to go sign somewhere. Cutthroat if he signs somewhere else.
Speaker 1:Which he should, being only like 28 years old.
Speaker 2:He should and he's talented enough, but it's just. You know, he has to, he needs to Stop freaking out everywhere he goes. Stop freaking out everywhere he goes. You're no longer than a one option. Lose the ego.
Speaker 1:You're not that guy. Lose the ego. You are not that guy.
Speaker 2:That's the thing, the ego, and you have to be okay with taking steps back when it comes to your usage.
Speaker 1:Trent Irwin I love him. He's great. He's been signed again. He was given another contract. You know why? Because he's a guy that's like I'm cool, I can have a big game, have 80 yards and then keep it going. The white dude, dude, long hair yeah, no, I'm thinking.
Speaker 2:I'm also thinking about another player that also, uh, houston texans receiver. It's another one too. Um, it's what's his name? I just want to get his name because he's also one that was like a very good robert woods. He wasn't like remember when he was with the rams and he was like their speed threat guy and he was killing it. Like he's taking steps back from that. He's playing Houston like he's had a long career, even after his prime was over.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do my job, you just have to do your job. Accept your role.
Speaker 1:It is okay with being that guy that's on the team of. If there's an injury you'd probably start, but if not, you're going to be in probably a third of the plays that they run Right and you're not going to get the ball that often. Trent Irwin's a guy that's okay with that. Now he does own like three car dealerships in his hometown. He did reinvest his money after he got paid, but he's a guy that when Joe Burrow needs a slot receiver, he's there.
Speaker 2:But I think he came in with a different type of mindset. He was never coming to be a star no, but that's the thing. There's been games where he has 120 yards oh yeah, but it's different when you come into the nfl and you like you're that dude and then you have to take steps back to, you know, not getting many touches it before so now you're not even starting at some point.
Speaker 1:Every receiver, every everybody has that oh, yeah, exactly of I was the number one guy on my team.
Speaker 2:The question is, can you take it and can it can extend your career? If you're not, that?
Speaker 1:not everybody's going to be that guy when they get to the nfo right and I think guys understand that and when you, even if you are that guy, it's not going to last forever, it's not.
Speaker 2:It's not how it goes forever. No one has it forever right, especially athletically, like if the you'll age better, gracefully if you just decide to accept that and you take it with Nah. Sorry If you roll with the punches when it comes to that, because that's how it goes, but that's it when it comes to all the NFL news.
Speaker 1:Let's get to the games.
Speaker 2:We'll kind of go in order here. The first game this will be on Saturday, 4.30 game Gross Houston going to Kansas City. Kansas City is an eight-point favorite. It's supposed to be frigid, cold, it's going to be like 25 degrees, but with wind chills it's going to be like in single digits.
Speaker 1:Oh, like it was in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2:Exactly how it was in Pittsburgh. Kansas City is known to be very cold this time of year. I think this I was talking about how potentially I'd pick the texans win this game. I'm not going to do this on podcasts, that's stupid but I may take houston to keep the game close. It's a eight point it's a big margin.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna bet houston yeah but I just think kansas city they're gonna be at their most healthy again. This is money time. This is when travis kelsey comes out to play, and he did it last. He did it last, uh, playoff year. I was like, hey, oh, everybody's like cat. Travis coach looks like trash all year. And then he makes it to the playoffs and he starts heating up. This is what happened. They've used him even less this year. Like I feel like this is the whole plan. Hey, we're gonna win the third super bowl, but we're gonna like this is our whole plan, to like go throughout the whole season and be playing our best by the time the playoffs come.
Speaker 1:Give me Houston.
Speaker 2:You're going to take Houston straight up. I want.
Speaker 1:Kansas City to lose. So fucking bad.
Speaker 2:Me too.
Speaker 1:Y'all couldn't win the games that we could come beat you, fuck niggas. Look, I would really love for-. I'm still waiting for you to line that shit up. I can spray paint a fucking field right now In the front yard. Y'all niggas can run three sets.
Speaker 2:Look, I don't want Houston to win. If Houston wins this, I will be on them Because I've made this claim. I love CJ Stroud. Obviously a former Buckeye, he might be my favorite Ohio State quarterback I've ever watched and I think, with that being the case, he could win the next six Super Bowls and I would not feel any type of negative feelings towards him.
Speaker 1:I think he's the best Ohio State coach. He's my favorite. I think he's the best Ohio State quarterback you've watched.
Speaker 2:No, he's not the best quarterback. Yes, no for sure. But when it comes to accomplishments, you have guys that are definitely above him. You have Fields. You have, like Fields, had an awesome two years at Ohio.
Speaker 1:State, but I think it's only Fields. I don't think there's anybody else above him. Troy Smith.
Speaker 2:I don't know who the fuck that is. I watched like I didn't watch all of what Troy Smith was, but like in his two. But he was like rocket arm didn't do anything in the nfl, though he's too small but he was. He was a very good, very good quarterback. When it comes to achievements. He's at the top of the list, like jt bear has a bunch of achievements. But I always I wasn't a big fan because I, like I, after his freshman year I knew he couldn't throw the football no more and I was like we got to be able to get somebody to throw the football.
Speaker 1:What do you mean?
Speaker 2:JT Barrett was like after his freshman year where he was bombing it all over the field. It's almost like in his second year he lost all of his confidence and he literally just became a 10 to 20-yard merchant and couldn't really throw the football down the field. So every time we ended up playing in a big game like when we went to face Clemson the first time with urban and we got blown the f out that was because we had jt barrett as our quarterback and they knew we couldn't spread, we couldn't extend them vertically, so they just kept everybody close to the line and we just tried to quarterback run them to death and it didn't work. We got blown out but like, but for three years after he, after he played, and then next thing, you know, he gets, gets hurt. We win the national championship, obviously in 2014.
Speaker 2:But yeah, he was a little bit iffy for me, but Cardale won the national championship, not JT. It was a weird little dynamic. But Stroud is definitely my favorite because I fought for him. I fought against all these people. They're like he needs to run because he's black 'm like he's not type of quarterback. Let him be a special throw in the football and he's had some special throws that like are still inexplainable to me, like he's freaking ridiculous.
Speaker 2:So, um, houston gets his win, I'll be happy, but I'm gonna be smart here. I just think kansas city, they're gonna be well rested-rested. Have Ray ready to go? I'm betting Houston, though. I'm betting Houston with the points.
Speaker 1:Agreed.
Speaker 2:But I'm taking Kansas City to win this game. Not to mention it was so cold. I just think it doesn't really tend itself towards throwing the football all day, and I think that's what Houston really needs to do to win. And uh, because their off the line is not great when it comes to pass, to run blocking. So, with that being, the case it's good, it doesn't make for a great great great scenario. Uh night game. Uh, detroit commanders, this is on saturday night detroit taking detroit.
Speaker 2:Yep, I'm gonna take detroit too, but let's just do this Because obviously Detroit, they're the better football team. They've done this a while. They have a very talented offense. They can run the football with Gibbs. They just have. They have a lot of things going. I think they're supposed to get Montgomery Back in this game too.
Speaker 1:Second half.
Speaker 2:Sonic and Knuckles back their offense is going to be awesome. Can the commander's offense Do enough damage to that secondary? That is not good.
Speaker 1:Hold on. I think the commander's offense can't keep up with the lion's offense. I think the lion's offense is going to score more.
Speaker 2:So you think the commander's going to get theirs? It's not going to be enough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it just won't be enough. I think this game easily is above 50 points.
Speaker 2:Because Jay and Daniels are the over-under in this game. I want to check it now because it's probably like 55. It's 55. It's 55, I guess, before I even looked at it, it's easily above 50 points.
Speaker 2:Over-under is 55.5 points Oof Because, because both teams are going to get theirs, it's not going to be the but yeah, with Daniels being able to run the football the way he does, they're not going to be able to just blitz him and play that game, but I'm going to pick Detroit. But I think this game is going to be very fun to watch.
Speaker 1:I agree it's going to be very fun.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do so many parlays for that game. It's going to be crazy he wouldn't do parlays for that. But yeah, detroit wins. I just think they're the veteran team. Golf's been in this scenario before. That offense is really good and I don't think the defense is really going to make a lot of great plays. I think it's going to be more about who has the ball last, and I think Detroit's going to be able to run the football more effectively, consistently, which I think they'll have more control of this game overall, from start to finish, so all from start to finish. So I'll take Detroit, even though it'd be a very crazy thing to happen if the Commanders win that game which I wouldn't be totally crazy.
Speaker 2:Surprised by, jay Daniels has been lights out most of the year. Next game this is Sunday Rams going to Philly. Philly is a six point favorite. I'm going to take Philly, taking Philly, huh.
Speaker 1:That Rams secondary is trash compared to that Eagles defense. The Eagles defense is very, very good. They can continuously swap out players to keep going, and that Eagles offense is also very good. When they're on top of it, they're very, very good. I just think the Rams don't have the exact personnel to continue.
Speaker 2:Did Hurts' play last game scare you at all?
Speaker 1:It did, but again with how good the Eagles are as a whole. I think the Rams don't have the personnel to keep up. I think the Rams will. I think it'll be a close first half, but I think the Eagles would take it away in the second half.
Speaker 2:These teams played before earlier on this year and, like Saquon, ran for like 200 yards. The question is can the Rams stop the running game for Philly?
Speaker 1:Not a chance.
Speaker 2:And I don't think they can. And if they can get the running game going, they're going to be able to get some passes down the field. Yep. My only question is is Jalen Hurts? Is this like what he's going to be for the rest of the playoff run, or was he just a one-game thing? Was he just rusty? I don't know because he didn't play for three weeks before his last game.
Speaker 2:But like it looked there was something off. I just think he was just rusty, I don't know. I'm going to go Eagles and I just think this Rams offense man they're playing lights out but again they're playing. It's a very good Philadelphia Eagles defense and as defense and as much as I love Pukunuku and Cooper Cup are they going to be able to get away from Quinn Young Mitchell? And why am I forgetting the quarterback?
Speaker 1:say the boss it's a. Cooper Daji, there it is and Darius lay.
Speaker 2:Darius lay had a great game. He had a big last game. Like he's still playing very good ball and I just think he retires.
Speaker 1:They were super cool.
Speaker 2:I know I think you could still get paid to play well in the NFL.
Speaker 1:Darius Slay is like 34.
Speaker 2:And because of that they just have so much defensively I will take Philly.
Speaker 1:Wasn't Darius Slay a lion? He was.
Speaker 2:He was a lion? Yes, he was. Yes, that is very much the case, man, but six and a half points I might. Take the Rams.
Speaker 1:Keep 6.5 points, I might take the Rams to keep the game close. Oh, I'm taking the Rams to keep the game close, plus 6.5?.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. The over-under is 43.5, so they're saying this might be a low-scoring game, and what makes me also think the Eagles will win is that I don't think the Rams are going to be able to run the football against this offense, against this defense, either. That defense is very, very stingy, but yeah, but yeah. I might take Rams plus six and a half, though, because I just think Sean McVay is going to be able to scheme some things open and old boy Stafford is going to be able to make some plays every once in a while. But again, it's just a very, very good evil season.
Speaker 1:Do you think Stafford retires at some point?
Speaker 2:No, I think he's Other than the little elbow thing that he had to start the year we see him in another two, three years. Yeah, the year we see him, like another two, three years, yeah, not to mention, I think, me and this guy had a like. Whether matthew safford's a hall of famer or not, for sure, I think he's on the cusp right now I agree.
Speaker 1:I think he's close.
Speaker 2:He went to super bowl, like he's another one he's definitely no questions asked. But I think right now, with the way the detroit lions thing went with his career, he's like a 50 50. He's like a 50 50 man man. At least Eli has those two playoff runs to get him over the hump and get him in.
Speaker 1:I know, but it was crazy. Eli was a first ballot Hall of Famer. That shit's crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that shit was crazy to me, but I don't think he's a first, was he? No, he's not in the Hall of Fame yet.
Speaker 1:Eli was a first ballot. Hall of Famer bro.
Speaker 2:Wouldn't this be the year that he's up for the Hall of Fame?
Speaker 1:Yes, he was a first-bout Hall of Famer this year, dude.
Speaker 2:He's going to be a first-bout.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Again, he has the name. He has the name and he has two very legendary playoff runs. He is the reason why the Patriots have two less Super Bowls than what we should have. Yeah, it's a little bit. He's the reason why the Patriots don't have two more Super Bowls like he had two very legendary runs in the playoffs on top of the 50 50 the 50 percent win record in this regular season 50 is crazy insane.
Speaker 2:So I just think he just needs a little bit more stat wise, and if he wins Super Bowl, though that's definitely locked in. He'll be a hall of famer buter for Matthew Stafford, but he definitely needs another one to really lock himself in. He just needs one.
Speaker 1:One more.
Speaker 2:One more to lock yourself in, for sure. But as of right now, it's a little bit weird and I think for a couple more years of stats, I think already Matthew Stafford, he's at 10. In the top 10 of most passing yards, he's at 10.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay. If we were to put him up against a guy like Dan Marino, does he make it? Because Dan Marino probably won just as much as Stafford. Because Dan Marino stayed in Miami because he liked Miami. He liked being paid. Dan Marino's higher up on a lot of the stats than Stafford is Agreed, but Matt Stafford is super and Dan Marino is a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2:Yes, but I think he has a story part about him where he's like the start of the pretty quarterback that throws a beautiful ball type of thing. Yes, he is, he's like really the start of that. He brought the pretty quarterback that throws a beautiful ball type of thing.
Speaker 1:Yes, he is.
Speaker 2:He's really the start of that. He brought the pretty to quarterback.
Speaker 1:And he set every quarterback record for his time.
Speaker 2:Right, he lit it up so cool but Matthew Stafford was just as good. No, true, and he's probably going to jump up in a lot of stats before he's done, so I guess maybe he can get in stats-wise, but I think right now it's still a little shaky. Last but not least, this is probably the best game of the whole weekend. It's for two teams you hate, two quarterbacks you're not really that fond of because Joe Burrow is right there, shoulder to shoulder with them for the most part these fucking niggas.
Speaker 2:When it comes to how they speak about them. This is Baltimore going to Buffalo. Buffalo is going to Baltimore is actually a one-point favorite in Buffalo. Would you like to know what the weather is about to be?
Speaker 1:Fucking snowing in negative 85.
Speaker 2:Rigid temperatures, single digits. I think it's supposed to be some snow before that game happens. It's going to be windy day too. I think this is about to be. Oh, let me get the weather here Snow flurries. No, that's Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday 24 degrees. It's going to feel like single digits. It's going to be Sunday 24 degrees. It's going to feel like single digits. It's going to be crazy Windy. It's Buffalo weather for sure. How do you see the game going? Honestly, it's going to be a run the football out type of game. Is it crazy for me to think about Baltimore being the better one? My problem is that I think the cold affects Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1:It does A lot it does.
Speaker 2:Everybody talks about that when it comes to Tua, but I think Lamar it really does affect. It has affected his gameplay in some of these games where he's had to be in these very cold temperatures. Josh Allen is going to be able to. It's going to be kind of the same game. There's not going to be a lot of throwing. It's going to be a lot of quarterback run using your running backs Derrick Henry and James Cook.
Speaker 1:James Cook's great.
Speaker 2:They're both very good running backs, but this game seems like it's built for Derrick Henry though.
Speaker 1:I agree, and that's why I am going Baltimore. I think this game is built for Derrick Henry.
Speaker 2:But this game might be equally built for Josh Allen. He could be the bruising back.
Speaker 1:True, but again Derrick Henry is going to run a shit ton, especially on that not great Bills defense.
Speaker 2:That Bills defense is not great at stopping the run whatsoever. They're not good at it.
Speaker 1:So I am going to trust Baltimore in this game. It's cold, they're going to run the ball. Derek Herring is going to have 27 carries 285 yards.
Speaker 2:And I also think that the Ravens are going to be able to put more guys in the box and dare those receivers for a Buffalo to do the job. And Amari Cooper has not been good all season. Ever since they traded for him he really hasn't done much at all. Keon Coleman's been good at times, but he's just underused. And Don Kincaid is probably their most lethal weapon thrown in the football too. Him and Khalil Shakir Again, I'm remembering all these weird wide receiver names, but the big ones I'm not. But those two are probably their most productive. But again, with this weather and all that, I think Baltimore baltimore wins this game. I just think it plays into baltimore's hands. You give the. Give it to derrick henry. Let lamar jackson run every once in a while. I just think it's going to be. Lamar jackson might be able to play this game without having as much on his plate. I think if buffalo wants to win this game, buffalo's gonna have to put it all on josh allen and he's to have to win the day.
Speaker 1:We know that don't work. He's done it before.
Speaker 2:That don't work. This year he has done it plenty of times.
Speaker 1:That don't work, dude, not in the big moment.
Speaker 2:I've seen it, you've seen it, everyone's seen it, and I also think that of all the teams that we think could watch the Baltimore go play them and then choke. And then we have to watch Kansas City Chiefs in the Super Bowl again to go win it. That's what it's starting to feel like to me.
Speaker 1:Unless they're playing the Lions, then I don't think they can beat the Lions.
Speaker 2:Then it's just who's going to have the ball last. And that's where I fear with Patrick Mahomes too, Because if you give Patrick Mahomes the ball last, it's going to go in his favor. The script is in his favor. Let me be honest.
Speaker 1:If it's fourth and less than five, I'm going for it.
Speaker 2:Guaranteed, I'm going for it. Oh yeah, I don't care where. Oh, Detroit doesn't play. They do not care. They're very aggressive, but they'll do all that.
Speaker 1:Let me be honest with you, you, if y'all are down a touchdown and it's fourth and anything, and you'll have like a minute left to go, I'll be looking at dan campbell like, oh fuck, because he's about to run some bullshit.
Speaker 2:It's about to work well, ben johnson man, he's a wizard back there. I just think, yeah, I just think, with this baltimore thing, the only team that we know have beat the chiefs this year is buffalo, and, and it's going to work out against everybody that's rooting against Kansas City. The one team we think has a chance to take them out before they get to the Super Bowl is going to be gone.
Speaker 1:And we're going to have to watch Baltimore. I don't think Josh Allen can do it. Don't say we.
Speaker 2:I'm saying the country. I'm saying the country.
Speaker 1:Oh me, who's smart knows that Josh Allen's in there and they're fucking good.
Speaker 2:Look, fine, I'm not going to battle you on that, yes, you are.
Speaker 1:That's fine. That's Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow, don't run the ball.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? The only quarterback that's left. We're not talking about Joe Burrow right now.
Speaker 1:Jace, he's at home, we're always talking about Joe Burrow, because we know where he should really be. Yeah, I just think, think it should be him playing Kansas City right now.
Speaker 2:The script is going to give us the big old FU and say, hey, you guys are going to have to watch the Ravens choke in the AFC Championship game against the Chiefs and you guys are going to have to watch them go play in the Super Bowl again and hope they don't win it. With that being the case, baltimore, I'm going to give Baltimore the win here because I just think it sounds too perfect for it not to happen. So that's about it. On the games, that's our picks. Plenty of stuff to watch. Go out there, watch some football, have some fun watching it. Hopefully you're a fan of the whatever team is playing. If not, just hopefully there's some good football out there for you to watch and hopefully, um, some of these teams that are big underdogs make it interesting and make it for some good football for us all to react to and talk about next week. So that's about it. By the time we talk to you guys, next time, ohio state will be national champions, uh, and we'll have. We'll be one step closer to seeing who the super bowl contenders are going to be, um, and we'll talk about all that next tuesday. And this is about the time.
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