JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
Bills Fail Again to Chiefs, Eagles Run Roughshod over Commanders
What if Bronny James made the wrong choice by jumping straight to the Lakers? We kick off our latest episode with a heated discussion exploring the rocky start of LeBron's son in the NBA. We debate whether a stint at USC could have better prepared Bronny for the pro league and dissect the intricate dynamics of family influence versus professional growth. Then, we shift gears to celebrate Ohio State's championship triumph and the intriguing coaching carousel involving Chip Kelly and Jim Knowles, speculating on their potential future endeavors and the ripple effects on college football.
Prepare for an electrifying recap of the intense showdown between Washington and the Eagles, where despite early sparks from Washington, the Eagles soared ahead with their impenetrable defense. We dissect the Eagles' strategic plays, including the much-debated "tush push" by Jalen Hurts, and highlight the standout performances of stars like Saquon Barkley and AJ Brown. Our analysis doesn't stop there; we dive into the evolving quarterback landscape in the NFC, pondering the future of teams like the Packers, Buccaneers, and Cowboys, while speculating on the NFL potential of college stars Michael Penix and Caleb Williams.
Join us as we draw fascinating parallels between Patrick Mahomes' Kansas City Chiefs and the legendary New England Patriots of the Tom Brady era. We unravel Mahomes' mesmerizing gameplay and the challenges other teams face trying to dethrone the Chiefs. Our conversation also touches on the decline of the NFL Pro Bowl and the implications for player dynamics, while we peek into the entertaining realm of the MLB All-Star Game. As we wrap up, enjoy a personal sign-off from the hosts, Javante Boozer and Jace Boozer, who promise an engaging return in the next episode.
welcome back to this podcast. Today is thursday, january the 30th. We're back with another podcast that's crazy.
Speaker 2:Sorry, um, we're here talking about sports. My voice is messed up because I'm coming off being sick. Um, and that's pretty much it, so let's go ahead and get on to the end of the stuff. So real quick. Bronny, did you see how? He had like a very terrible? They brought him into play and he was pretty bad. It was like over five and had two turnovers and all that I don't know.
Speaker 2:People are trying to like blame him as of not sorry, blame the coach. Do I really think that's the head coach of the lakers like saying, hey, we're gonna, we have to play bradley tonight against lebron's wishes? Like people are just starting to like look at because, uh, why am I forgetting the coach's name, jj reddick, after the game was talking about how, hey, maybe it's on me that I brought him in right off the plane expecting to play some minutes. But then I'm like, at the same time I'm sitting here like there's no way he's gonna bring in lebron james son to come play without lebron's consent. This has all been happening with lebron's consent.
Speaker 2:Some just like that whole, that whole thing. I'm like he's gonna take the brunt of the blame for saying, hey, you put out a second round pick, expecting to do something and he played bad, it's all. It's all his fault. But there's nothing really happening with brawny james without lebron's consent in the lakers consent and I would make I'd probably make an even bigger claim that he was probably told that brawny was going to play. Yeah, like I just that whole that whole thing with that all of that, just like I heard steven a talk about how lebron stopped this and just let him stay in the g league and I'm like, to a certain extent, probably probably good for him, because he needs to get his confidence, not only with his, his own athleticism, but like just keep playing basketball. And I'm not gonna say you're in doubt he'll ever be an nba player, because he can be, but there he has some growing. He has to do and it's just do and it's a tough situation. But again, when this is all manufactured from the get-go, it's like what do you expect?
Speaker 1:Agreed. I think we all can agree he probably should have stayed in college.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he should have. Imagine if he would have stayed at USC for another year and keep developing. That could have been the biggest thing for him. But again, he had to to. If he was like, just think about it this way, worst case scenario, he is an NBA player. If he would have played multiple years in college, would he have gotten even enough? Even with LeBron's tutelage, would he even be able to be enough to be drafted? I feel like it was a perfect storm for him to get drafted and get the money, get the guarantee money that he got. But like, maybe there's a chance he thought he wouldn't pan out in college and it would have messed up his whole thing. So maybe he'll get the better coaching and with the G league and being with Lakers. But you know a weird situation I know I sound weird. I can hear myself it sucks. All right, getting off of that College football. Only have one thing to talk about.
Speaker 2:Ohio State had their big celebration in the Ohio Stadium. 30,000 people showed up. It was great, awesome, kind of relived the whole thing. The whole run to the championship Also got my championship gear today Very fun. I'm glad I finally got that because they weren't saying I was getting in the mail for like the longest time when I bought it the night of the championship. But, um, jim knowles was not there, neither was chip kelly both of both the coordinators for ohio state and it was like became a big, a big thing, like what's happening here. Um, chip kelly is still at ohio state as of right now, but apparently he's getting a lot of looks from the nfl to potentially be an nfl offense coordinator. The texans are going after him, the jaguars are going after him and all that, but nothing really has happened yet. I hope he stays, um, but jim knowles, on the other hand, he went and took 3.1 million dollars a year from penn state to go be their dc I don't know I'm not gonna sit here and say it's like a turnco situation, because I'm like hey
Speaker 2:that's what we did when we brought him to Ohio State. We just paid him the most money and apparently Ohio State offered him like 2.75. So they didn't offer him as much of what Penn State gave. But think about it this way he has to pay the buyout to then leave Ohio State to break his contract that he just signed last year with Ohio State to go to Penn State. So the money isn't even that big of a difference in the long run of if you really look at it that way.
Speaker 2:So people were looking at it as like oh, did he turncoat? Like apparently there was like a big thing with after the first, after the first time they played Oregon and Ryan Day kind of like made himself more, um, a part of the defensive meetings, part of thing. And they're saying that maybe Jim Knowles got it, got his feelings hurt when that happened. But I'm like at the same time, when it ended with the championship, I can't sit here and blame Ryan day, because the changes that need to be made to make that defense what it was by the end of the season started with that game and after that game against Oregon, where we gave up all those big plays and all that. That never, happened again.
Speaker 2:So again, most coordinators really don't, at least if they're going to be head coaches. They usually don't last all that long, but you know it was a tough situation. Now Ohio State has to go and hire a new DC and hopefully Chip doesn't leave to have to be another offense coordinator have to be replaced as well. But you know, who knows knows they're gonna like replace from within. If they're gonna go get, get some money from outside. I think, because you have the players that are coming back, that you do. I think you just need to go to caleb downs and those guys playing on that they're coming back playing on that defense next year and say, hey, what do you want to do? You want to keep the defense the same as what it was. And if you do that, you have to kind of promote from within. Or if you just want me to go get the best guy possible and just go, let me go get the best DC possible, even if it comes with a defensive scheme change. Because I just think you just tell Caleb Downs, hey, what do you want to do, buddy? Because he'll be the leader of that defense next year and you only have one more year with him, so you better get the best out of him you possibly can. But $3.1 million dollars nothing to sneeze at, though he's good, he's like the highest paid defense coordinator. By a landslide it's like by a big margin.
Speaker 2:Now I don't know, I'm mad at him for a certain extent. But here's the thing ohio state now plays no, uh, plays them november first next year. So I have a feeling ryan is gonna want to hang a hundred on him when they play each other next. So you know it's a sucky situation. I think it does mean good things for penn state, because penn state is usually known. This is my, so this is my main point for penn state. Right? What is the one thing penn state's really known for for the james franklin era? Their defense has always been a good side of the football. If you had to pick one weakness for a penn state team, jace, what would you? What do you think their biggest weakness is?
Speaker 1:Offense. They're trash offensively.
Speaker 2:Especially wide receiver play their last game they played against Notre Dame. A wide receiver did not catch the football, a wide receiver did not catch a pass in that game against Notre Dame. So it's like so I heard somebody put it this way and it's like the perfect thing. If you're driving on a road and you have four flat tires, you pull over, fix the cup holder that you have there and then keep driving with the four flat tires. Jim Knowles, I get it. Penn State didn't have a top five defense, but they're always top 10. So let's just say Jim Knowles makes them a top five defense.
Speaker 2:But the thing is is that the issues that you have a wide receiver and on your offense have not changed. They were one of the teams trying to get Carnell Tate to transfer from Ohio State to go to them and he said no. So I just don't get how this move paying this guy all this money. You should take that $3.1 million and probably put that towards a couple wide receivers and get them to transfer to you so you can be better for next year. But it's not fixing the issue that they had.
Speaker 2:Defense has never really been an issue with them. They've always had a pretty good defense. In college football I think their offense has always been the issue, and when you have Drew Aller coming back for his fourth year, I think that is when you need to help him out by getting him wide receivers that can catch the football, because you're losing his best pass catcher in the tight end. So without him, like who else do you have left in all the wide receivers that they did have all transferred, at least all the ones that were like productive for them? So you know it was a bad situation for ohio state. They'll fix it. Ohio is one of those places that if there's a job opening, there's gonna be plenty of people out there to try to line up to take the job. So I have faith that ryan day will kind of get the right guy to take the job and, uh, we'll see all right.
Speaker 2:Next thing, I guess nfl stuff now, because really nothing else to talk about so nfl um, we haven't done a podcast since the nC and AFC championship games, so let's go through, give our recaps of them and just kind of give some general things. I don't want to necessarily go too far deep into the Super Bowl because we have to talk about something next week, but I figured we could go into it. So we'll start with the first game that happened this past weekend. Philly-washington was the first game. Philly won the game 55-23. This game was an absolute rout, even though the points seemed like a rout. But through the first three quarters of this game the game was pretty close and Washington had plenty of chances to try to take momentum and try to really get into the game.
Speaker 1:No, it wasn't.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? It was 15-25 at the end of the second quarter, so only down 10. And they were down 11 at one point in this game. And then Washington had a chance to kind of take over when Eagles went for that fourth and five when they got the long pass to AJ Brown. But like they had a chance to kind of take over when Eagles went for that fourth, and five when they got the long pass to AJ Brown. But like they had a chance.
Speaker 1:No, they never once had a chance. A chance would mean you're within a touchdown. They were never once within a touchdown.
Speaker 2:You're right. A chance means you are within a touchdown at multiple points or you're tied.
Speaker 1:They were never once tied. They were never once within a touchdown. They had no chance. And then we got to the third quarter and it was a fucking bludgeoning 21 unanswered points in the fourth quarter. When Saquon ran for 60 On the first play, that was the craziest thing I've ever seen Literally the first play.
Speaker 2:He ran for 60.
Speaker 1:Our touchdown.
Speaker 2:Ran through like three different tackles.
Speaker 1:There's nothing you can do. There's nothing you can do it. There's nothing you can do. It was a bludgeoning of a game and it's what I expected it to be. I expected a team with no defense, no defense. They have no noteworthy defensive players Not one.
Speaker 2:Their offense was the biggest part of their obviously Jane Daniels and Terry McLaurin, and they're up against a formidable defense.
Speaker 1:Very good defense, yes Two great DBs, three great DBs, great linebackers. A front seven that no one can stop. Jalen Carter is a freaking monster, no one can stop the front seven, Even if he's tired.
Speaker 2:they have three dudes to replace him.
Speaker 1:There's nothing you can do. They were up against immovable objects and unfortunately they were no unstoppable force. This game went exactly how I thought. Terry McLaurin didn't do as much as he probably, you know, normally would. Zach Ertz had all their yards.
Speaker 2:It didn't help that they fumbled the ball. There was like three or four different fumbles by, I think, zach Ertz no, who had a fumble in this game? It was Eckler had a fumble in this game. It was Eckler had a fumble in this game. Jeremy McNichols had a fumble. De'ami Brown had a fumble. All these guys are guys that are not big contributors for this team. I guess Austin Eckler was, for the most part, this year.
Speaker 1:No, Brian Robinson took his job. Austin Eckler is about to be on the fucking couch.
Speaker 2:Somebody made this point. Eckler is about to be on the fucking couch. Somebody made this point. Would it have been easier to swallow if Jane Daniels had a Justin Herbert type of game? He's a rookie. If he had a Justin Herbert type of game and he just threw a bunch of picks in his biggest playoff game he's been in so far, would that be easier to swallow than a game like this where your team made a bunch of fumbles and it wasn't. Jay Daniels played great. No, he didn't play bad at all.
Speaker 1:Well, he went one for one. He wasn't really throwing all that well, he only 29 to 48, very much volume passing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1:So he played okay. If I'm going to be honest with you, this is exactly what I expected. This team not ready for this moment. This team is not prepared. None of you have ever been here.
Speaker 2:You would think, with it being their third time playing each other, that this game would not happen.
Speaker 1:Yes, but you are up against a team that has been here three times in four years.
Speaker 2:And Saquon has ran on you all three times that. He played you this year and it just kind of continued. In this game you can't beat them.
Speaker 1:The Eagles have been in the NFC Championship game multiple times. This is the same shit. New day to them. They've been here. You're just another roadblock.
Speaker 2:You know it's bad when the white boy running back, will Shipley, had four carries, 77 yards in a touchdown.
Speaker 1:Shipley was on one.
Speaker 2:So this is one thing I wanted to talk about. Did you see the whole sequence of the tush push?
Speaker 1:going into the end zone.
Speaker 2:Did you know that was a thing that if they had too many calls going, that?
Speaker 1:way. Well, yeah, yeah. What are they supposed to do?
Speaker 2:It's like, oh, we're giving him a touchdown if this keeps happening.
Speaker 1:Because he was doing that on purpose.
Speaker 2:I think he was just trying. There's nothing you could do. Jalen Hurts was doing the hard count. He was trying to make it happen.
Speaker 1:I know the first time's cool, the second time like come on.
Speaker 2:It was like happening multiple times. It wasn't a sec, I know. I wouldn't doubt if his defensive coach said fuck it, do it, we're losing anyway. And apparently in the rule book this to battle against that, they could just have a defense that just keeps this game going forever. We're not going to keep this game going forward, which is why you need to be able to award them a touchdown we just need to have that in our pocket, in just case a team decides to take advantage of their legit once they're on.
Speaker 1:If they're on the one of anything, just accept it. Don't even don't send 11 out there. Send two, two Send two people.
Speaker 2:Let them have it Let them have it.
Speaker 1:Ain't shit we can do about it. They were getting the touchdown. There's nowhere to go.
Speaker 2:The Eagles are just. They're the best at it.
Speaker 1:They're the best at getting the switch push every time. The Eagles just they played a solid game. At no point did I think they didn't play a good game Dylan. Hurts 20 of 28, 246, one touchdown he. I guess he played better than Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 2:He had three rushing touchdowns in this game and only two of them were touch pushes.
Speaker 1:It's still. I find it so annoying. It is Because Saquon should have five. If we're being real, 80% of teams, my bad 90% of teams are like here football Saquon.
Speaker 2:Should haveancho had 15 touchdowns in the regular season, he should have been 25, easy, easy.
Speaker 1:It was just. The Eagles played a complete game. There's nothing else I can say about it.
Speaker 2:Both sides of the ball, washington. I have to give Washington their credit is that even they've gone a lot farther than anybody thought they ever could have. It's just with the mistakes they made they just kind of made it easy for the Eagles, and you know Eagles took advantage.
Speaker 1:I don't know farther than I thought they could have. I kind of the NFC's hot ass.
Speaker 2:How unfair is it for the AFC to have all these great quarterbacks? And if you had to pick any team in the NFC to feel confident, like which team in the NFC? Which teams in the NFC actually feel confident in their quarterback? Can I make the case? It's only Washington.
Speaker 1:Can I make the case? I don't know the NFC teams, the Packers, Okay, but even Jordan Love hasn't played great in moments the Buccaneers.
Speaker 2:Championship winning, winning, confident.
Speaker 1:But I think they're pretty sold on Baker.
Speaker 2:Okay, they're sold on Baker, but like championship winning Sold.
Speaker 1:My nigga. How many people are championship sold On their fucking quarterback? If I'm the Bills right now.
Speaker 2:I'm looking at Josh.
Speaker 1:Allen Like bro, four, four fucking times. You've lost this nigga four times. You've been able to play him Four fucking times in a row. Hold on. There is one gap year where the Bills weren't playing them Lost, lost, lost, lost, lost. Four years in a row, yeah, they have lost this, motherfucker. True. There's one gap year where they don't play him and they play the Bengals.
Speaker 2:We also have Set the fuck home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you can't beat the other two really good quarterbacks in your division.
Speaker 2:Sorry, we're not new on this game yet, but no, of all the teams I feel confident in their quarterback going into next year, it's Washington. I guess you could say Philly, I'll put in Tampa Bay in there.
Speaker 1:Washington Philly. I'm pretty sure they're not actively looking for a replacement Washington Philly Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2:The Rams if they want to keep Stafford and keep paying him.
Speaker 1:This is the thing I wasn't going to say. The Rams, I don't know where their headspace is at of. Hey, should we just kind of cut.
Speaker 2:He said he wants to come back next year already and I believe he can.
Speaker 1:I just think that team's not fully there.
Speaker 2:I think they should just restart and do a rebuild, Like they're very young already.
Speaker 1:Your defense is very young. Your offensive pieces are very young. Everybody's still under contracts. You could kind of just restart. Wait another year, go get a better quarterback. You could take one more year and be bad. I'm okay with that. You should be okay with that, the Bears.
Speaker 2:Okay, caleb, they have the guy Got it, carolina, I guess you can consider that now.
Speaker 1:Not yet, not yet, not yet. I can say they're not looking for a replacement. I can also say they're not far.
Speaker 2:Okay, fine, it's on the docket in the brain. I got a little too excited, I guess. Cowboy. There's no way the Cowboys feel confident in Dak after another season.
Speaker 1:You think Atlanta, they're not looking for a quarterback with Michael Penix? No, no, okay, add them If we go from like, if we're saying, championship winning, it's probably two.
Speaker 2:Two yeah.
Speaker 1:If we say confident in their quarterback to be something it is more.
Speaker 2:Five, five, five, right yeah.
Speaker 1:Now the only team. I'm unsure about the two teams. I don't know what the Vikings are thinking. They're probably confused as shit with their thinking. Yeah, their front office probably like I. We have JJ McCarthy still. Are we set on him or are we going with Darnold?
Speaker 2:There's no way they can go with Darnold after what happened at the end of the season.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But there's also no way you can kind of tell that team like, hey, we.
Speaker 2:That season was too good. You're not wrong. For what?
Speaker 1:everybody expected to go give it up to a rookie. Most people don't think that is that good. There is nothing spectacular about him. Michael Panik's big arm Big arm, yeah, he can move. He has ACL problems but he can move.
Speaker 2:In his few starts in the NFL you saw what talent he has.
Speaker 1:Everybody saw the talent in Drake May. Everybody saw the talent in Bo Nix.
Speaker 2:Everybody saw the talent in Drake May Everybody saw. The talent in Bo Nix Everybody saw the talent in Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1:No one was really talking about Jason McCarthy. Yeah, you're not wrong. Everybody was like he's the fifth best quarterback.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heard in preseason, but he was on track to start over Darnold.
Speaker 1:True, but again, at the time it was Sam Darnold Low bar. Yeah, you're not wrong, but now it's.
Speaker 2:Sammy D. So Sammy D, sammy D.
Speaker 1:So they're the one team. I'm confused on the Lions. I don't think they're Actively seeking to Replace.
Speaker 2:Jared Goff. Put Goff in there?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure, but I'm If they find a quarterback Worth replacing Goff with Will, howard Will work on this team as well. Hey Will, throw that bitch up. You ain't gonna do shit up. Throw that bitch up.
Speaker 2:If you just need a signal caller, you can put Goff in there. You can put Goff in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then Sanford's the other one. I don't know where they're thinking, but no, this division's hot ass when it comes to, like Sorry, the conference, the conference. Huh Conference.
Speaker 2:Huh, you said division. Division is the four teams. Conference is like the whole NFC Did I, is like the whole nfc did I say I don't fucking care, um, but I don't know but compare that to the afc mo homes.
Speaker 1:You have my home, alan burrow. Um fuck, I can't think of nfc teams, lamar lamar afc cj afc. We said nfc. Yeah uh, my homes alan burrow fucking lamar. Lamar hell, you have May Bo Nick CJ CJ Stroud.
Speaker 2:Herbert.
Speaker 1:Jay Herbo. I don't know if I can put Trevor Lawrence. I don't think you can. I don't know if I can put Tua either no, no chance, no chance but still, that's seven of like, yeah, this is the championship with a quarterback legit legit guy, yeah. And then you have those teams of we don't know what we're doing, of the ones that I feel like there's more we didn't mention. I feel like there's more.
Speaker 2:Am I just crazy? Yeah, can't say the Jets, because no one believes in air rogers like that.
Speaker 1:The ones that no one really knows what they're thinking. The Jaguars they're not changing it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I guess that is it. Okay, so it is like it's so weighted one way. Do you think this might be time? Because, again, because I'm speaking as a team that doesn't have a quarterback right now- Suck, fucking a good ass. But you have a quarterback.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:So this is my question to you, sir. Let's just say the Chiefs cool off over. Let's just say another 10 years with all these guys in the AFC. Let's just say Mahomes doesn't dominate the next 10 years and be at the next six or seven Super Bowls in the next 10. So let's just say he goes to three or four of them. That means there's only six, six or seven. For the rest of the eight quarterbacks in the AFC, is there a quarterback?
Speaker 1:you're confident, will never get to a Super Bowl. I have several Like get to one or win one. Get to one, let alone win one. I have several Like get to one or win one. Get to one, let alone win one.
Speaker 2:I have several Get to one I have several Plus just saying because Mahomes has made it hard to even get to one On the AFC side Right.
Speaker 1:Okay, if I Hold on, let me pull the teams back up.
Speaker 2:I have three, Because again we kind of why am I forgetting his name now? This sucks. Burrow has already been to one, so he's kind of out of it Okay.
Speaker 1:So of the fact of not only because, as we've seen in the playoffs, no one's beaten Burrow either.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So Josh Allen is one I don't think can do it personally. He's played Mahomes four times. He's lost Mahomes four times. He played Burrow once and got drugged.
Speaker 2:They drugged the shit out of the Bills, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Lamar is a choker choke artist.
Speaker 2:So the question is Lamar and Allen at this point.
Speaker 1:Yes, but then there's the other guys of may.
Speaker 2:Is not gonna make it, I think herbert might never get to one I think herbert may never dude the charger still charger, even with hardball, even with all of that like bro's gonna become philip rivers and I feel bad. Yeah, he's gonna have all the stats in the world. Let's be honest, he choked that game away as well when they had the playoffs, I forgot about Herbo.
Speaker 1:Herbo probably won't make one. I think Herbo might be the most talented quarterback I've ever seen in the football.
Speaker 2:He is, but sometimes you need a little more than that.
Speaker 1:Like truly he.
Speaker 2:And I think he has a little bit of fraud inside of him.
Speaker 1:Oh side of him, heck we say the same thing about Sam Darnold. I think he's a bigger choker than Lamar.
Speaker 2:He's a bigger choker than Allen. Allen hasn't had a game like that. Yes, he did. Yes. Which one In the play line? The?
Speaker 1:Bengals.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Melted the fuck down. Four interceptions, a fumble.
Speaker 2:Herbo has two of them though. Okay, they were up 27-0.
Speaker 1:They were up 28-0, and then suddenly they were down and they let Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville come back. Yeah, jacksonville team, they got bodied next round, exactly.
Speaker 2:He has two of those games in the playoffs.
Speaker 1:I agree, tua will also never see one.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I don't even put Tua in there. There's no guarantee he'll be here, be it in the NFL, in the next two years. Agreed, that was who I probably forgot. They probably feel confident about Tua. Whether you can say healthy or not is a different story.
Speaker 1:I think that's why they don't feel confident about Tua. I think the owner is starting to feel not confident about the team because that coach is on a hot thin ice.
Speaker 2:Oh, by the way, Dylan Gabriel, think of a more perfect place than Miami for him to go. Him and Tua play very similarly. He probably has a better mover in the pocket than Tua, but they're both He'd work on the Broncos. They're both short, but they have Bo Nix, they're not drafted.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that'd be a better place, in all honesty.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like think about it Sean.
Speaker 1:Payton loves short quarterbacks.
Speaker 2:That's I'm gonna be honest with you Bo Nix is like 6'1".
Speaker 1:Exactly, drew Brees was not. Drew Brees was 5'10", right, yes, and we were going to nickel and dime you down the field and then Drew Brees suddenly was going to unload the top and throw one over you. Yeah, he'd work perfectly. They'd run a sane system immediately. What do you mean?
Speaker 2:What do you mean?
Speaker 1:They'd run a sane system Like it'd be perfect. Yeah, but Lamar, josh Allen and Herbo I think they're all good, I just think I think Texans get to one pretty In the next couple years.
Speaker 2:If they fix their offensive line, they can get to one, because their defense is young and they're not going nowhere, true, I just, and their division sucks. Oh, and they're not going nowhere, true, I just? And the division sucks.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they're almost guaranteed. Right. Them and the Chiefs we're getting a spot. Everyone else here is them, the Chiefs and the Bills. All play in shitty fucking divisions.
Speaker 2:I would say the Patriots will get better over the next couple years.
Speaker 1:What do you mean next couple years? They have to draft people.
Speaker 2:They do, you're not wrong. Drake Mays has been their first good draft picked in 25, five years, dude and I wouldn't doubt if the Jets are good next year, no matter what quarterback they have in there.
Speaker 1:Okay, they were supposed to be good this year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Aaron Rodgers sucked, oh what about the year before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, and you think he's going to retire this year. Stop playing. Yeah, he's going to be petty about this oh, so you're going to be ass again.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's right. So Bill's playing an easy fucking division. She's playing an easy fucking division.
Speaker 2:The only bad thing is that Burrow and Lamar play in the same division, so they can never have an easy path to get to the playoffs.
Speaker 1:And we're here with the fucking Steelers and the Browns.
Speaker 2:Let's play hard for six games a year and then suck the rest of the time. The only reprieve is the Browns.
Speaker 1:Dude Miles Garrett is only good against the Bengals and Steelers. Yeah, he is ass every other game.
Speaker 2:True, but if I'm going to, play Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1:I've got to get five sacks and then do nothing else for the rest of the year but still get offered DBOI.
Speaker 2:call myself the best defensive end in football, when we all know it's really not the case.
Speaker 1:I fucking hate Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2:It's just tough, it's just tough.
Speaker 1:The more I see Josh Allen play, the more it solidifies my fucking hatred towards him, Because I sit back like they think this motherfucker is better than Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2:Okay, do you have anything about Washington or the Eagles?
Speaker 1:before we get to that, we can talk about that game, get a better defense and come back next year Get a better defense, for sure.
Speaker 2:Marshawn Lattimore helped. Do you know what he said after the game? They asked him what went wrong in the game. He's like it's hard to win a game when your team has four different quests, four turnovers. Yeah, yeah, but it also is not a very team-friendly way of thinking. But again, he was added to the team late, so it's not I don't really fuck with y'all like that.
Speaker 1:It's going to be hard for him to be a team like that. If y'all want an answer to the question, that's the answer. You can't win a game when we've lost the ball four times.
Speaker 2:It's not a team for the answer and you still let that motherfucker run for 60.
Speaker 1:You're in the secondary. You are the furthest dude back and you did not catch him, Do you?
Speaker 2:want to know what somebody said. How does he keep picking fights with all these bigger receivers than him? Because he keeps getting bullied by all these receivers. He gets bullied by AJ Brown, he gets bullied by Mike Evans. He keeps getting bullied by all these guys.
Speaker 1:Mike Evans plays harder when he plays against them. Yeah, I don't know what the Mike Evans they fought like eight years ago and Mike Evans still don't fucking like him.
Speaker 2:They will fight to the end of time. If they see each other on the street, they'll be ready to kill each other.
Speaker 1:Mike Evans is going to line that bitch up. He's going to start pointing to a random dude like let's had.
Speaker 2:So now you're getting big body ball, these big receivers that you have, all these beasts.
Speaker 1:I did find that funny. Last time they played each other I did see that he lost a step in my brain. I'm like Mike Evans did not? 13 years don't mean shit to him.
Speaker 2:Mike Evans don't care.
Speaker 1:My bad 13 years don and shit to him or Cam. Hayward, they were drafted in the same class. Yeah, how fucking crazy is that my bad. Mike Evans has been in NFL for 14 years he didn't get 1,000. His first year he got 980. Oh, just short Fun fact, he missed it by just a little bit. Just a little bit.
Speaker 2:I said freshman year, rookie year, yeah, but god damn Insane, but okay, but insane but okay. So that's all that's it. On washington and in the philly um, oh they, jailer hurts. After that game, said they, they finally let this, took the straight jacket off of me. Do you think that him and the coach are really that bad off, or do you think they're just trolling everybody at this point?
Speaker 1:I don't think it'll matter if they win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:If they win, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:If they don't that's a problem.
Speaker 2:Do you think their formula is good enough to win a Super Bowl against Kansas City? I don't want to get too far into it.
Speaker 1:I think they're that much better than Kansas City. I don't know how y'all could lose this. Your defense is better. No one can stop your run game. I kid you not. I see zero way for y'all to fuck this up, but I foresee you fucking it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's definitely an opportunity too.
Speaker 1:I saw zero way for y'all to do this, for y'all to fuck this up.
Speaker 2:Two years ago, y'all fucked it up. Is this their third time in the suit?
Speaker 1:No, two years ago they made it and the year before they made it.
Speaker 2:Do you know the last In the NFC, the last 11 years there's only been one person that's been to multiple Super Bowls From the NFC.
Speaker 1:And it still hurts.
Speaker 2:That's it, but the other 11 years, nobody else. I'm sorry, the other 9 years, nobody else.
Speaker 1:Quarterback wise yeah. Quarterback wise I was about to say San Fran's been probably 3 times, but it was for different quarterbacks Right.
Speaker 2:different quarterbacks Right for different quarterbacks exactly.
Speaker 1:Heck, they had three quarterbacks play in the last game Garoppolo and then. Purdy and then the other dude, their backup and then their other backup. Yeah yeah, they had three dudes play in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:So like that shows how much like overhaul there is in the NFC. Like stood out amongst everybody.
Speaker 1:We should reorganize and go push the Bengals and the NFC. Let's play the NFC South.
Speaker 2:Do I need to switch teams? I'm never, I'd never switch, but like is this the opportunity to?
Speaker 1:Dude, there's not an NFC team. I would want to switch to.
Speaker 2:I could, I could be chill. I could chill Lions guy, yeah, but then you're're a bandwagon.
Speaker 1:You'd want to join like an up-and-coming team.
Speaker 2:Right, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1:But it can't be the Commanders. I don't want it to be the Commanders.
Speaker 2:Ugh gross.
Speaker 1:It'd be the Bears.
Speaker 2:I don't want Bears F that.
Speaker 1:I feel like that's. I mean honestly, it's probably worse than being a Browns fan.
Speaker 2:No question is. Caleb Williams hasn't been caught with masseuses yet. All right, let's go to the other game, Kansas City Buffalo. This game was at Kansas City. Kansas City won the game 32-29.
Speaker 1:As expected.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I picked Buffalo like hope against hope. I knew better as soon as Buffalo in that first quarter went and didn't do anything. It was like a three and out, I believe. And then Carolina I mean sorry, kansas City took the ball. I knew better as soon as Buffalo in that first quarter went and didn't do anything it was like a three and out, I believe. And then Carolina I mean sorry, kansas City took the ball. It was like a 90-yard drive, yep, and they scored a touchdown, that first round.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh, this is how this game is going to go. Dude, I don't know why you doubted me. I know what he's going to do and it's choke. I can't beat Mahomes.
Speaker 2:You know why he has to play better In this game specifically? Yes, because Buffalo is not a better team than Kansas.
Speaker 1:City. Every game they've ever played against each other it has always come down to. The last three have been close, you know what Josh Allen can't do Transcend.
Speaker 2:You have to be that much better. The last two games he's played against Mahomes in the playoffs he's had the ball last. With minutes left on the clock, either down three or seven. All he had to do was go score, and he hasn't.
Speaker 1:Burrow had the ball and went down and scored.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:There is a difference between them. I don't give a fuck what anybody tells me. Say what you want. Josh Allen's a unicorn. No, he's not Burrow had 4,500, you're not wrong, and less interceptions than Allen, I would say against everybody else in the AFC.
Speaker 2:Mahomes is like Jordan, but Burrow is the only one that's done anything in the playoffs against him.
Speaker 1:Burrow is Hakeem Olajuwon. He's gonna get one. He's gonna to get one, he's going to steal one ring. There's nothing you can tell me against it, Because no one is like. When Jordan was drafted and at the end of Jordan's career, Jordan wasn't the first overall pick. Everybody calls the second overall pick a mistake. But no one looked at Hakeem Olajuwon and was like, yeah, that dude is a mistake. No, because Hakeem Aladjuan was that fucking good. He was elite.
Speaker 2:Wasn't he picked third? No, Hakeem Aladjuan was picked number one. No, I'm saying it wasn't Jordan picked third.
Speaker 1:Yes, but no one called. And they called the second overall pick a mistake because he was trash. But no one ever was like, oh, hakeem Aladjuan was a bad pick, no good, it was just Jordan. Was that much better? I don't think Mahomes is that much better than Burrow. I know he's not. I've seen Burrow's healing. I called you and told you this because I learned this statistic Joe Burrow, out of 30 active, out of 31 active quarterbacks, excluding Mahomes, is the only one to currently be playing and beat him. So there's only two quarterbacks to have ever beaten Mahomes in the playoffs. One of them is Tom Brady.
Speaker 2:Who is not playing? No more.
Speaker 1:The other one is Joe Burrow. Yeah, oh, joe Burrow is also the only other dude that no one else has beaten in the playoffs Besides Mahomes. Mahomes is the only person to beat Joe Burrow in the playoffs. Allen couldn't do it, lamar couldn't do it. He played them both, yeah he did Beat them both.
Speaker 1:Yeah, after dragging the shit out of Josh Allen, he drugged that shit 51-17. Get the fuck out of here. In Bill's stadium I was yeah, and y'all want to tell me Josh Allen's better. Lost, lost, lost, lost. Burrow's up 3-2 to Mahomes. He's 2-1 against him in the playoffs. What are you doing? They're 1-1 in the playoffs. My bad, he's 2-1 in the regular season. But like, come on, josh Allen has to be Superman to beat Mahomes In this game.
Speaker 2:he definitely had to be, because the Bills were not good enough. In every game, you have to be better than him.
Speaker 1:True, josh Allen can't do it In the game against Burrow. He had to be better than Burrow. He couldn't do it. He was better than Lamar. But one of y'all was gonna choke. It was inevitable. Y'all are playing each other. One of you has to choke, whichever one would've. I kid you not, whoever would've lost would've been called a choke artist. It's just, lamar is one Allen. You can win two games, but you're going to lose the championship. Unless you're playing the Bengals, then you're fucking cooked. I can't, I do not. I knew in my heart. I know what he is, I know he. This is going to one of two ways he wasn't going to be good enough to beat him, or he was going to try to be Superman and start an interception he tried to in that first drive that he had.
Speaker 2:He almost threw two picks right away. I watched this fucking game he didn't interrupt the game, though I knew that because they captured 34 passing 34.
Speaker 1:He threw 34 attempts, hit 22 of them no interceptions. But they were damn close, they were dropped interceptions.
Speaker 2:Oh, that first drive.
Speaker 1:They were damn close.
Speaker 2:He did it twice in the first drive Mahomes 18-26, 245 yards on the touchdown. He did have two rushing touchdowns though they didn't stop him running.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's. Another thing that gets me is that every time he ends up playing in the playoffs, every team he faces acts like they've never seen Mahomes run before. It's like he's back there without legs and then he starts running in the playoffs and like nobody knows how to react to it. I'm like we've seen this before. He's done this every playoffs. He doesn't run all season. Then he gets to the playoffs and then you start seeing him run and everybody's acting like they've never seen him before. It's.
Speaker 1:I just don't understand how that was the differentiator Kelsey did absolutely nothing in this game.
Speaker 2:Xavier Worthy was on one, though.
Speaker 1:Xavier Worthy had a great game. Juju Smith-Schuster had 60 yards.
Speaker 2:He became the inside threat. Usually it was Kelsey, but no, they used Kelsey as a decoy. And then Juju Smith-Schuster was the guy getting the ball in the middle, making some big plays.
Speaker 1:Now, yeah, I knew this game was going to be like this, but four times.
Speaker 2:Do you know the there was five fumbles in this game. Buffalo recovered all five fumbles. It was four fumbles by Buffalo. They recovered them all every single time. And then there was one fumble from the Kansas City Chiefs. Buffalo recovered all the fumbles. It was the first time that's ever happened in a game of the playoffs and that team lose. Dude I, the Buffalo Bills, were like even how this game went.
Speaker 2:The Buffalo Bills were extremely lucky because Josh Allen fumbled the ball a couple times and managed to recover it On the one, the one tush push they try to do, and he jumped over, he fumbled the football and managed to get back on it. And this is this is other the point I wanted to make about the tush push. You know, all year they have been so good with the tush push, right. And then this game they kept going for over and over and then early on in the game it worked. And then, as the game went on and on, heck, they were on the goal line at one point and try to do it and it didn't work. So why would you keep going for the same thing over and over and over again if the team that you're playing, like the um announcer, tony romo. Once he got mahomes's dick out of his mouth, he even got to a point where he was like the cheese told us romo's out there, fucking double fisting.
Speaker 1:I had, uh, I made it to the second quarter. I had my shirt on. I had a closed caption on because I didn't want to hear Roma. That's how tired I was of him. I was, I couldn't do it.
Speaker 2:It was bad.
Speaker 1:There should no longer be games on AFC if it has Mahomes or Allen. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:But in this game he was saying, like the DC for the Chiefs they oh, we watched all the push-push they do all year. We know that Josh Allen likes to go left Right behind the left guard every single time. Guess what they did? Every single time.
Speaker 1:Right behind the left guard.
Speaker 2:Right behind the left guard and they finally got it. It's like why, in the hell, if you're the Bills, don't you do something else? Even the Eagles, as automatic as they are on push-pushes they have wrinkles off that play to do something else they do it all the time, shit.
Speaker 1:There was one time where they fucking pitched out a saquon or jaylen.
Speaker 2:Jaylen just runs away, he just runs to the left, doesn't even do the tush push like they have variations of it it worked last year.
Speaker 1:Everybody knew how it works, and now they added wrinkles to it. They did it last year. Look I I don't know it was they played the commanders last time I did it. They want to do the t push instead. He snapped it. Turn and do it to take one right, he's ran at the outside. They like you have to do.
Speaker 2:You can't just like yes, it worked all year, but you can't throw a variation, you have to have a wrinkle in the game.
Speaker 1:You need to make them think about it. The fact they didn't have to think means there's nothing to stop. They just have to stuff you the line and it's something somebody said.
Speaker 2:This is that when you have a defensive head coach like the Bills do that's not something you think about. If it's Andy Reid, he'll do something. Do it differently.
Speaker 1:If it's Andy Reid, you'll have seven variations of the touch push.
Speaker 2:Right, the Eagles. They have the touch push and they have so many different variations of it. It's like, hey, if this doesn't work, we'll do something else.
Speaker 1:But the Bills have done that same touch, push all year long and it finally didn't work and they had nothing else they could do. Dude, see, it's funny because the bills have more total yards, passing yards, rushing yards, yards per play. They are.
Speaker 2:You're four for six on fourth down right and like you're lost, I don't there's. Did you think that was a first down on the one that they didn't give?
Speaker 2:them I didn't think so either. But here's and here's my other point is that if you are going to go for a tush push, you better. You better get it by yards, because you don't want to put that in the official's hands. If you don't get it, because that's, that's that may be. The one downside of a tush push is that it's a scrum and that if you're not necessarily going to get the angle every time is so, if you don't get it by a good margin, you leave it in the officials' hands. It makes it a problem. So I'm not going to sit here and even blame the officiating and say, oh, it's the officials giving it to the Chiefs. No, you had your opportunity and you didn't get it, so you leave it in the officials' hands and stuff happens. It is what it is.
Speaker 2:So they just kept going with that play over and over again. It was the most insane thing when you have the guy that you have at quarterback, when you have Cook. The fact that on that last drive Cook wasn't even out there at all, he's like your second best weapon on that team. How, for so often do you not have Cook? He had 13 carries, 85 yards, two touchdowns. He was very effective. So how in the hell don't you have him? You can catch the football out of the backfield. So I'm just like, I just don't know how, what? There was a lot of game plan things the buffalo bills did that just didn't make any sense to me whatsoever. And defensively, the bills had no op, like they.
Speaker 2:And somebody brought this up, like with the, the cornerback, uh, elam, the guy that they had out there because there was an injury that happened, um, from their quarterbacks from last game he was out there. You know? The difference is is that him and McDuffie for the Chiefs. They were drafted the same year. Do you know that the Patriots were on the clock and the Chiefs traded up to get McDuffie and then, instead of the Bills getting McDuffie, they got Elam, and McDuffie is an all pro type of corner and Elam a guy they're burying on their roster that only played because, like three different guys got hurt and couldn't play in this game.
Speaker 2:We're not going to mention the Mahomes thing. Like the Bills traded, traded the pick in my home to the Chiefs and they got my home. So like this is like sins of the draft coming back to haunt you. So the way that I look at it is that. Did Josh Allen play bad football? No, but, like you already said, is that if he was going to win this game with a team that the Bills is not as good as the Chiefs whatsoever, then Josh Allen had to be so much better than Patrick Mahomes to win this football game, and he wasn't. And I have to give the same energy, because I was talking about last week how Lamar wasn't good enough. Lamar made more mistakes than what Josh Allen did in his game, but he didn't make the plays necessary to win the football game and Josh Allen didn't either. And I think, now that you said he's 0-4 in the playoffs against Mahomes, he's 0-4 against Mahomes.
Speaker 1:It's a problem Three. You said he's 0-4 in the playoffs against Mahomes. He's 0-4 against Mahomes. It's a problem. Three in the AFC Championship, one in the division.
Speaker 2:It's a problem, it's something that you're going to have to deal with, and we can't just all rely on Joe Burrow to be that guy to knock Mahomes out of the playoffs. No-transcript reason why the chiefs are hated so much uh calls I don't want to blame just the officiating, because they've gotten some calls in big moments, yes, but like so did the Patriots during their run.
Speaker 1:That's why people hated the Patriots.
Speaker 2:But the Patriots also cheated. They also actually got caught cheating. So like that's a real reason why everybody hated them and the NFL hated them. And Taylor Swift People hate Taylor Swift for whatever reason. There's a lot of fans Fuck that stupid bitch.
Speaker 1:Stop panning up to her. I don't want to fuck her.
Speaker 2:But you don't hate her for that reason. You just don't like the fact that it's the I want to watch football, Sportsball man hit man.
Speaker 1:I don't care about Singer. Get her the fuck off my screen. I don't give a shit.
Speaker 2:So I wanted to talk about I kind of mentioned this to you already a couple days ago there's a Patriots fan at work. He's like in his mid-late 30s. He was talking about how, if the Chiefs win this game in the Super Bowl, we're not really going to get into the Super Bowl that much. But I just want to make this point If the Chiefs win the Super Bowl, I'm done watching football, for I'm not gonna pay for like Sunday ticket. I'm gonna start casually watching football. I'm like you're gonna root for your Patriots, right? He's like, nope, not gonna. Like if I can catch a game, I can, but I'm never gonna make the extra effort because this feels like it's rigged for the Chiefs and I'm like do you fucking hear yourself?
Speaker 2:Right now, you're a Patriots fan that experienced the dominance that you had for the Patriots all those years. And then now that it's somebody else and I hate to say it the Chiefs right now are playing just like how the Patriots did, except they're doing it better. Because you know why? Because, no matter how much we love Tom Brady, we consider him the GOAT. Mahomes is physically a better quarterback than Brady ever was, especially at this point in their career. Seven years in Mahomes is a much better quarterback than Brady ever was, especially at this point in their career. Seven years in Mahomes is a much better quarterback than Brady ever was.
Speaker 2:So like they are doing the exact same thing the Patriots did for all those years. They said, hey, we're going to roll out our helmets, we're going to be a better coach team than you and our quarterback's going to put us in positions to win and we're going to wait for y'all to make mistakes. And, honestly, these past two years, exactly what the Chiefs have done. The Chiefs have said, hey, we're not going to sit here and try to blow you out, we're just going to sit here and play a tight game until it's money time and it's time to win, and Mahomes is going to be the guy to win us games. You know Mahomes in the playoffs he's 7-0 on game winning or tying drives in the playoffs 7-0. It's insane. So the idea that they are doing it the exact same way the Patriots used to, and I just think, the idea of somebody like him, the guy that experienced his own type of dynasty, to know it's the first time the Patriots have, at least in his lifetime, the patriots are a part of that dynasty.
Speaker 2:Huh, seven or no can't be right well, game winning drives in the playoffs yeah it can't be right why? Because could know. Because when the borough beat them, winning or tying to win or tie the game.
Speaker 1:He's seven you know, but my homes went down there to tie the game and borough drove it back to win it yeah, but no, no, no, but to tie, to win. Oh tie, to go to overtime. My bad nevermind, right, exactly Okay.
Speaker 2:So, like so, when you're facing off Against a guy like that, there's not, there's not gonna be any quarterbacks Other than Joe Burrow that can stand up to that. So I'm just like when the idea that guy told me that and I'm like it's, that's the most hypocritical thing I've ever heard in my life. Because I'm like, I'm looking at it from my point of view as a Steelers fan. I'm like I experienced all these years of the Patriots winning and them winning in my face, and I still have to sit here and keep fighting.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to, and now you're going to have your first time that you're not being a part ofson. You want to talk about the football. Y'all are up and coming. What do you mean? You have a fresh quarterback.
Speaker 2:What do you mean? No, he's just like it's rigged for the Chiefs. I'm like, no, it's not, it's not, it's not.
Speaker 1:It is, it is. It is those Shit. What the fuck? What are you?
Speaker 2:There are bad calls, but again it's the fact that they are good enough to take it every time, bro bad calls is an understatement.
Speaker 1:When you're winning by three, you're telling me. I get it, we get a roughing the passer call after fourth down.
Speaker 2:Y'all don't get it that Houston game. Yes, I understand.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, dude, I'm talking about the week two Bengals game, ruffing the passer, but Trey Hattickson didn't touch his head. Oh, he fell on top of him. No, he didn't. Trey Hattickson fell to the side and it puts him in field range from the kick field goal and I'm like, oh, oh, okay, let's not talk about the Eagles game in the Super Bowl, where the holding holding call that was there. That wasn't a holding call, even though they didn't call it all game. That wasn't holding, it wasn't holding.
Speaker 2:But okay, the magical pass interference call at the end of the game.
Speaker 1:Although it was a holding and pass interference Wasn't there, but you know it is what it is. Cry about it. Go home, don't watch football. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:I'm just like it's so hypocritical man, I Cry about it. Go home, don't watch football. I don't give a fuck. I'm just like. It's so hypocritical man. I'm like obviously it sucks when a team is dominating everything and you want your team to have fun too. You want other teams to have fun Again. I would have been happier if it was somebody else other than Chiefs making the Super Bowl. I would have been okay if the Bills made it. I think you'd have. Jace will hate Josh Allen Until the day he dies. That's pretty much how this is gonna go Cause everybody's gonna go.
Speaker 1:He's the second best quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 2:I'm like no, fuck he's not no, he's not.
Speaker 1:He's not.
Speaker 2:He's not. I can agree to that. He's not.
Speaker 1:He's Never beat Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2:Fun fact, especially in the playoffs.
Speaker 1:I'm glad I didn't play this year Cause Joe Burrow lost, but not because Joe. Burrow was bad. Yes, you got anything else on this game.
Speaker 2:Just the Bills man. I just think that team nearly needs to change everything Again. Is there an opportunity for us to say the Bills got farther than they probably ever should have the way they started the year? Think about all the defensive players they shipped out of town because they wanted to save cap space. I think we got. We need to give the bills a little bit of credit that they got farther they probably ever should have. Like their team wasn't all that great. They have him. They have uh cook and their wide receiver core isn't great. Matt collins, the one touchdown catch that he had. You've talked trash about him all year because you don't want to talk about him being barefoot walking around all the time.
Speaker 1:I don't know who the fuck Matt Collins is.
Speaker 2:Oh, it was somebody else. I was talking to Keon Coleman.
Speaker 1:Fuck Keon Coleman. Yes, fuck that nigga. Nigga's not good.
Speaker 2:But Matt Collins, the guy that walks around barefoot everywhere. He had the one touchdown catch with the one-handed oh by with a one-handed on a whole oh, by the way, I was passing appearance, that wasn't called it. Insane how that happened. But again, he still caught it. But I think the bills they need a lot of things they have to do. Um the chief has been pretty good yeah, he's not necessarily a big like a very productive receiver, but in big moments he's made. He's made some big plays for them all right gabe davis 2.0 yeah, you're, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2:They're very good at having gabe davis like players. Um mahomes had the rushing touchdowns. Xavier worthy had a great game. Judith smith schuster they had so many players make contributions. It's just like it's crazy what happens when you have a great offensive mind and you can just get other players involved. I wish think of xavier worthy as much. He was the leading receiver in this game.
Speaker 2:He started off the year as a gadget guy that nobody like. He's 165 pounds. Nobody wants to use him and he is a. He is a premier player on this Chiefs team on their in their path to get a Super Bowl win. It's just, you know, it's a. It's a credit to the Chiefs. I'm not going to sit here and suck on them like Tony Romo does. He he does all the work for me, but I just have to give, as much as I hate the Chiefs at the same time. They're like the Death Star right now. I want to see them fail, but I have to give them credit that they've made it work and they're doing everything necessary to go ahead and keep winning. And Mahomes is doing what he needs to do. He really is making himself like the Jordan in the NFL right now, as long as he's not facing Joe Burrow, everybody else has no shot.
Speaker 1:They're just rolling out their helmets like hey, just play better than us and nobody can do it. Oh my God, our defense is so much better than next year.
Speaker 2:You hired a good defensive coordinator, so you have a shot that good defensive coordinator has no defensive players.
Speaker 1:True your best defensive player isn't signed.
Speaker 2:And you're losing to the Indians.
Speaker 1:That's not great.
Speaker 2:Oh, by the way, when it comes to the, they're going to have to give old boy Chase a contract. There are people saying that he's looking for maybe $50 million a year.
Speaker 1:What are you going to do? Tell him no, he's a triple crown winner. You should have signed him earlier in the season.
Speaker 2:You should have signed him at the start of the year, when he wanted to be signed Because Jamar Chase is like 35 right now, so like 40 makes sense, but 50 is insane.
Speaker 1:Triple crown. What are you going to do? Tell me, no, do it, I dare you.
Speaker 2:They played craps on this and didn't get you should have signed him at the start of the year.
Speaker 1:You should have signed him last year. He won a little bit more than Justin Jefferson, just to be funny. Yeah, you should have gave it to him Best receiver in the NFL by a lot.
Speaker 2:You're going to pay me for what I'm going to be and what you just underpaid me for this past year 400 yards more than Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 30 more receptions more than Justin Jefferson. Yeah, five more touchdowns more than Justin Jefferson.
Speaker 2:And he's not going to fall for the trick. Oh, what if you want to keep T around? I don't care. Get rid of T, I want my bread. Give me my money. You made me wait. Give me my bread.
Speaker 1:You should have paid him at the start of the year. You could have given, you could have squeaked by.
Speaker 2:You could have 43.
Speaker 1:You could have just gave him something nice. No, now he's like I'm done fucking around, I want all the time.
Speaker 2:You don't have to. You have no other option. You're not paying anybody else.
Speaker 1:Dude, there is truly no option. You're fucked.
Speaker 2:If you're going to keep Joe Burrow happy, you have to keep him. There's no questions asked. And you're going to have to make other improvements too, you have to.
Speaker 1:You have to go out there and draft a good receiver. Go ahead, fuck around. A franchise tag team, that's a 20% markup. Yeah, so that's y'all's fuck up. Y'all should have figured this out at the start of the year Y'all just paid him $20.
Speaker 2:It's going to be closer to $30 now.
Speaker 1:Everybody wanted to be paid. You probably could have budgeted for it at the start of the year. You probably could have signed them both. You would have had to take no defense. You would have had to accept that yeah, but fuck, there ain't no how. Right Jordan Battles Stole his rookie contract and he's probably Not going to be good enough In two years to be Top tier money.
Speaker 2:Top tier. Yeah, you could give him.
Speaker 1:Decent money. Right but not, he's not getting no 25 million.
Speaker 2:He's getting like 15, but they Now they're in a bad situation.
Speaker 1:You're fucked. You're fucked. You have to pay him.
Speaker 2:You fucked around.
Speaker 1:Now you gotta find out, you have to pay him.
Speaker 2:Pay him every dime, I agree. All right, all right, that's about it.
Speaker 1:I have one more thing. Okay, go for it. I believe the NFL has killed its Pro Bowl. Ooh, because you have 23 dropouts. Yeah, amara St Brown, derek Henry.
Speaker 2:Panay Sewell.
Speaker 1:CD Lamb, zay, flowers, laramie, tunsell, max, you know what's funny.
Speaker 2:A lot of those defensive players. There's nothing really for them to do other than be a part of the Pro Bowl games. I guess I don't want to, but like why would I want to be a part of this? This is stupid.
Speaker 1:I could get injured. It's not worth it. I don't want this consolation prize uh the replacements suck.
Speaker 2:Oh, russell wilson's now a pro bowler insane, I saw that. I'm like what are we doing here, dude? Uh malik, neighbors cool, that's fine it was very good.
Speaker 1:Uh, bjorn robinson cool fine. Quentin williams good, the most replacement, replacements. I'm like, yeah, these are good replacements. James Cook good replacement. And then you just start losing me First off. Brian Thomas Jr should have been here in the first place.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no question, Welcome to it bro.
Speaker 1:You deserved it. What you're telling me? The best replacements you could get for Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen were Drake May and Russell Wilson.
Speaker 2:Drake May was good, but you know, what makes it worse is that now, since, even if they're replacements, they now have like a they're a pro bowler on their record, yeah. Pro Bowl don't mean shit, though it doesn't mean anything, all pros mean a lot more, but when people talk about career accomplishments, pro Bowl, is mentioned. So like I think to fix the problem is joe burrow's first pro bowl insane, insane insane.
Speaker 1:I just needed to throw that out there again there's so many great afc quarterbacks.
Speaker 2:I again it's hard. I will give it it's hard.
Speaker 1:He's never thrown for four thousand before, though yeah but still, uh, he's one of the people that didn't drop out.
Speaker 2:I thought would I think he just wants to be a part of it. Man For a quarterback it's probably fun. We do the seven-on-sevens. You have those fun little moments there, but at the same time I'm just like I know, but again it's just mini-games. I'm like it's like a Madden mini-game. Again, they're fun to watch in clips, but like they don't have the same mystique as the pro bowl used to have many years ago, where you have, like these players killing each other when the fourth quarter happens and just like these, it doesn't matter as much. Again, is there a good way to make the pro bowl good again?
Speaker 1:I don't think so yeah, they're making sure to murder each other again.
Speaker 2:That was more fun they're not gonna do that. No more, no more. Why would they do that when they're not getting paid like they usually are on game checks?
Speaker 1:Oh, Jaden Daniels also dropped out.
Speaker 2:This shit don't matter. It hasn't mattered in a long time. I'm just like I don't know. I feel bad, but at the same time you just have to give it more meaning, make it mean something. I heard two different things. So one make it not count towards your Pro Bowl record. If you're not in the Pro Bowl the first time, if you're alternate or if you're a replacement, you don't get the accomplishment of it right. Or two if you drop out and a college player that's going to be in the draft gets to come in and take your spot, That'd be cool.
Speaker 1:It'll make it like the.
Speaker 2:Shrine Bowl a little bit, but at the same time I'm like, hey, if y'all are not going to be here, we'll give these guys a spotlight where they can come in and just at least get their face out there. I don't know, it's just, it's one of the. I don't know, it's just. There's really no way to fix it, man, like when players don't want to play how they want, like they don't want to play hard, it's going to be very obvious, gonna be very hard to stop them from, to make them play hard. It's just not going to be. It's football, man. Either you're out there playing at 100 or they're playing at zero. There is no 50%.
Speaker 1:I agree Real quick. The other Pro Bowl quarterbacks are not in the world. I just need to read off the Pro Bowl quarterbacks now that we're here.
Speaker 2:You mean the guys that actually made it or the guys that are actually going. The guys that are actually going, okay, yeah, for, sure, joe, bro russell wilson.
Speaker 1:Yeah, drake may uh.
Speaker 2:And then nfc, you got jared goff baker mayfield, sam donald.
Speaker 1:The afc should fucking demolish them if joe bros play the whole game yeah, but it's just a seven.
Speaker 2:Seven thing doesn't really matter, it's fun and clips. It is fun and clips.
Speaker 1:I won't michael why I'm not gonna watch it, yeah, but the fact all your premier players dropped out this don't mean shit to them why do they want to go take a flight to florida and then go sit, have to be there for multiple days?
Speaker 2:for what? I just go home I can start my vacay early. What am am I doing here? Or I don't have to stop my vacay that I've already been on because I haven't been played in three weeks. It's like why would I do all this to come back and do this.
Speaker 1:I just find it funny that some of them claim injury, like Amara St Brown and Panay Sohan played in two weeks. How are y'all injured? You're both injured. You don't do nothing. Oh, you're there just for the minigames, just for the minigames.
Speaker 2:They don't do nothing else In the game. They don't use linemen. So, like, what are you doing there? You're just there just taking it all in. I don't know. I just I don't know. It's a bad thing, but it holds so much historic history it's going to be hard to get rid of them all together.
Speaker 1:It'd be cool if you took the best players from each division and made like a 7-on-17.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but then you're still taking out offensive linemen? Yeah, but who cares? Yeah, you're not wrong, just put the best one in the All-Pro. Well, they already do the All-Pro, and the All-Pro is actually what matters when it comes to contracts.
Speaker 1:So the dude that probably made the Pro Bowl is probably also going to be the All-Pro, so just put him in the Pro Bowl and if they want to come or like they voice that they hey, we want to participate too. You can have the other games and do a seven-on-seven. That'd be much more fun to watch.
Speaker 2:I don't disagree with you.
Speaker 1:Because you could do that in a day. Yeah, seven defensive players, seven offensive players.
Speaker 2:Short quarters.
Speaker 1:Short quarters.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Dude, you could do that in a day. Now there would be divisions where you're like, fuck, what quarterback am I taking?
Speaker 2:You're not wrong.
Speaker 1:AFC would be hard. You're looking at lamar amber like uh right, I take one of you yeah you're not wrong, so stuff like that be hard, but I think it. You know all that's fan voting, so most of it's fan voted anyway fan and I think it's like 75 percent.
Speaker 2:That was like 50 fan, 25 player and then 25 media. I think yeah, or is that the way the NBA does?
Speaker 1:it. No, that's how they do it.
Speaker 2:The.
Speaker 1:NBA picks. No, the NBA do picks.
Speaker 2:Oh, let's not even talk about the NBA. The way they're doing their all-star stuff, all that sucks too.
Speaker 1:Dude, that shit's so fucking convoluted.
Speaker 2:It's so funny that it's the sports that nobody watches that has the best all-star game. The MLB All-Star game is the best Perfect.
Speaker 1:We're playing a baseball game.
Speaker 2:And I have to mention hockey.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're all pretty cool.
Speaker 2:It's funny that nobody watches it. It's hilarious, All you know. What's also funny is that the sport with the best replay is tennis. Think about it. They chip their balls when there's a ball on the line. They use good shadow technology and all that, yeah it's really cool. They don't have any issues, it's tennis that has the best replay.
Speaker 1:I like baseball also.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's fun. Home Run Derby's cool.
Speaker 1:The game is actually fun. Yeah, they do the Rookie Showcase. Rookie Showcase, that's fun Home Run Derby's fun. There's another one that I'm missing. Auburn Derby oh, they do like the celebrity softball game yeah, that's fun too and then the All-Star game.
Speaker 2:Just watch the All-Star game and they all play hard because they all, they only go out for a couple innings. They're like, hey, we're gonna play hard. And the fact that Paul Skeen's pitch in that game was a monster. You see, if that that they tried to offer him, hold on real quick.
Speaker 1:Y'all know how to offer that kid 50k worth of shit he can't use because he's from California.
Speaker 2:He could just sell those tickets constantly, I know but it's the thing, it's a Pirates game.
Speaker 1:I have a million dollar card. One of one. It's more than a million. It's one of one, now. One of one, it's more than a million, it's one of one. Now the suite with Libby Dunn. Did you see that?
Speaker 2:Huh, he would get to see. Oh yeah, and then the suite with Libby Dunn for a game. But yeah, this kid's like 11, right.
Speaker 1:Who the fuck is Libby Dunn?
Speaker 2:He may not even like girls yet.
Speaker 1:Dude. He's probably like who the fuck is that? Again, blah, blah, blah. I'm like all right, this kid lives in California.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's not going to say it Again maybe he can make it.
Speaker 1:He's a Dodgers fan.
Speaker 2:What are you talking about? He said home seats. He's like he takes my home plates for life.
Speaker 1:For life.
Speaker 2:He could probably sell those tickets and probably get even more than that and get for the card. No, but you have to keep One of one.
Speaker 1:There is not another one out there, I have the only one. Hey, paul Skeens, how much do you want? How much you got? Because, let's be honest, paul Skeens, about because baseball contracts, rookie contracts, are different. They're only like two to three years long. Yeah, I wait, two years, you'll be a multi-millionaire, or how much? Does somebody else want this card? Right yeah, there's only one.
Speaker 2:You thought up the auction.
Speaker 1:They made it like a golden ticket thing for a reason, Dude if you put that card up the auction, you know how much money he'll get for it.
Speaker 2:This kid's 11. He'll get millions.
Speaker 1:This kid's 11 and will probably never have to work again, it'll set him up.
Speaker 2:It'll probably be hard to do that. Be for real, they do.
Speaker 1:Especially because Paul Skeens wants it. I want my card. Cool, I want $15 million. Nobody's going to pay that, but you know, stop capping if the Charizards are worth that much. And the dude wants his card, yeah, again, you try to give him $50K worth of bullshit for a card that will sell for at least a million. At least you could bend the bitch and it'd still be worth a million dollars. Because you know why?
Speaker 2:Because it's only one. It's only one, yeah, and it's only going to be as long as Paul Skeen doesn't get majorly hurt. It's only going to go up in value.
Speaker 1:Dude the better Paul Skeen plays, the more you can that card Right. The kid's 11. He'll see Paul Skeen's retire.
Speaker 2:No question.
Speaker 1:But if Paul Skeen wins two Cy Youngs plays amazing his whole career. He just waits until he retires.
Speaker 2:Honestly, if it was the best thing to do, just sit on it for years.
Speaker 1:Sit on it. I kid you not. If you sit on it until this dude retires after he's been good his entire career, maybe won two or three Cy Youngs. You go to sell it, dude, you're getting millions easy.
Speaker 2:If you just wait like seven years by the time he ends up being 18, being an adult, he'd sell that thing for multi-million dollars, Multi-millions.
Speaker 1:Because he's probably going to be an established MLB pitcher.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no question so dude.
Speaker 1:Insane. You gave him 50K worth of shit. Yeah, no one fucking wants this.
Speaker 2:If he lived in Pittsburgh. It'd be a different If he was a Pittsburgh fan, right Cool.
Speaker 1:But the fact of, even if he was a Pittsburgh fan, his dad was like Nah, that math, don't math, not math. His parents were like Nah, that's some ass, that's, ass, that's bullshit. The card's worth more than that, no question. Also, his parents better have took that shit from him. That shit better be in a fucking safe. He's 11. I'm taking that shit from you. It's your card cool.
Speaker 2:I think they already put it up for auction. I think they're already sold to an auction place to put it up for auction. Why wouldn't you dude? Well, I think you should sit on it. I think you should sit on it. I think they should sit on it for years, I agree. But again, if it's the kid's card, if it's only for him, I think they're making it a family thing. We could change our all our lives. I'm like nah, this is my card.
Speaker 1:Agreed, but again he's 11. He doesn't really have a lot of control, fuck you you're going to. There's nothing you can do Right.
Speaker 2:But the sweet will be done, though. Don't sound too bad, I know.
Speaker 1:But he's 11. It's 50K worth of stuff for a million dollar card. Right, that card's going to get at least $3 million at auction. Yeah, yeah no question and we're going to see it resold in eight or nine years and watch it go for like 10. As long as career goes the way we need to wait, supposed to go?
Speaker 2:yeah, no question. Yeah, he's that guy. He's that, he's really good, he's really good. All right, that's about it for us here. So let's go ahead into the podcast.
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