JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
Eagles Bury Chiefs in SB, Outrage in Dallas Won't End
What if a single trade could ignite a city's outrage and change the NBA landscape forever?" Join me, Jo, as I dive headfirst into the contentious trade drama surrounding the Dallas Mavericks and their superstar, Luka Doncic. With Jace out for now, I'll dissect the nuances of this blockbuster deal that sent Luka to the Lakers, leaving Mavs fans in an uproar. From protests outside the arena to the ripple effects on team dynamics, we cover it all. And speaking of trades, the Lakers and Hornets had their own fiasco with Mark Williams and Dalton Kinnett, leading to a potential arbitration showdown that could shake up both teams' futures.
Switching over to the gridiron, Ohio State's recent national championship win has set off a chain reaction of coaching staff changes that are turning heads. We'll explore the departures of key figures like Chip Kelly and Jim Knowles, while considering Ryan Day's secure role and the controversial hiring of Matt Patricia. Can Ohio State maintain its dominance amidst these upheavals? And of course, we can't forget Antonio Gates' Hall of Fame induction and what it means for the legacies of other NFL greats like Eli Manning. We'll weigh in on their careers and debate Manning's candidacy, offering insights into what it takes to earn a spot among football's elite.
Finally, it's time to relive the Eagles' thrilling Super Bowl victory over the Chiefs. We'll break down Jalen Hurts' MVP performance, the Eagles' strategic mastery, and what went wrong for Kansas City. Plus, we'll share our thoughts on Kendrick Lamar's halftime show and its polarizing impact. Wrap up your sports week with our engaging analysis, humor, and a heartfelt invite to connect with us on social media. Whether you're here for the trades, the touchdowns, or the tunes, this episode promises a rollercoaster of emotions and insights you won't want to miss!
welcome back to the JV sports podcast. Today is Thursday, february the 13th, and we're back for another podcast. It's your boy just here, joe, by himself. Today. The other half the podcast is still currently dealing with a sickness. Sorry, it's been taking so long for a new podcast to come out since we did the pre-superbowl pod. It is because of sicknesses and all that that I was waiting on jace, because he's dealing with some things right now. So I kind of wanted to give him as much opportunity as possible to try to get better and get be able to come back and talk do the whole superbowl recap with. You know, things aren't working out that way. He's still getting better. Hopefully that'll be very soon. He'll be back to full health. But even still, I'm back because, heck, last podcast we recorded I was pretty messed up. So the fact that I'm back now I'm good to go means a podcast has to come up either way.
Speaker 1:So I'm here, going to sit here and just be on my soapbox for a bit. Talk about everything I want to talk about. Won't have Jace here to either to bounce ideas off of or to yell at me when he's done talking about the things I want to talk about. So a little good with the bad. It's how I'm going to look at it. So if you come to this podcast looking for both of us sorry about that, you're it. So if you come to this podcast looking for both of us, sorry about that you're just gonna have to be kind of being a little bit of a hiatus from that until we can get jace back on the next pod. But still we just there's. I just couldn't wait any longer to start talking about the super bowl and stuff. On the next pod, jace can come on. He can kind of give all this uh, all of his thoughts and ideas and all of that on everything that I'm talking about today, if we want to. But I just figured we have to get something out while people are potentially still talking about the things that are going on, as right now. So, and there are plenty of things that I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1:So, without further ado, let's go ahead and get into it. I do have a lot of things I want to have I do want to talk about written down. So hopefully it'll be a lot less of me just kind of fiddling around and thinking about things to talk about while on the pod, because, again, while I'm sitting here thinking, not talking, it leads to bad podcasting. So, hopefully, with me having kind of like my more of my, like my general thoughts kind of written down, especially with it being me just by myself sitting here talking to a wall, more like a computer screen, but there's a wall right behind it, so I, just with me, having my thoughts together maybe a little better, maybe lead to a more succinct and easier to palette podcast. So here I go. Who knows how it's going to come out, but you know I'm going to go ahead and go for it anyway. I've done this enough. It should be, you know, halfway decent, but I can't guarantee anything. So we may as well start with basketball, because you know, now the football is over, I figured basketball would be a good way to start and I think I just have some lingering thoughts of the Luka trade that happened and some fallout from that and some things kind of connected to that that I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1:So the Mavs fans are still not very happy about this whole thing. This whole thing has not died down with a lot of the Mavs fans for like, for very good reason. Right, you just traded away the best player, and it literally right before the prime of his career and pretty much without much of a explanation for the most part at least, not not any good explanation as to why they would make such a crazy move, being the Dallas Mavericks ownership in brass. So ever since that trade did happen, mavs fans have been lining up outside the stadium, outside their arena. They've been bringing a freaking I think Jace talked about this on the last pod like they're bringing like a dead uh, not a dead body, but a uh, a hearst, like a whole little hearst talking about how that's like that was their superstar that they had. That is now gone and they're sitting there protesting outside the arena. They've had a couple games since then. Heck, I came a game a couple nights last night or the night before it was dallas playing, um, playing against, I think, golden state, um, I do have to talk about one thing before. Even before I get to that, but I'll get to kind of get I'll just talk about the game last that happened recently.
Speaker 1:Like they, you have fans that are sitting there during the games like going in to fire the GM. Why am I forgetting the GM's name? Uh, the oh, dang it. Now I gotta think of the guy's name Dallas Mavericks GM Nico. It's like Nico Harrison, right, nico Harrison? Like the fans are in the stadium, like starting fire, nico chants and they have signs and they have people that, like the stewards inside the stadium, are taking down signs, taking signs away from fans, kicking fans out. And if, like, they're scared to put any fans on jumbotrons because you don't want anybody to have the fire and eco or something bad about the owner on the jumbotrons, they're not doing that. So, like you have people getting kicked out and I'm like to the. Here's the only my.
Speaker 1:My thought is doesn't that inspire more discontent with the fans? Because, when you look back on before the trade ever happened, when they were trying to keep it quiet, the Dallas Mavs fan, their brass and their ownership, nico Harrison was so scared of the trade getting out before the trade was actually a done deal. Why was that going to happen? Obviously, they're worried about things getting nixed via the players, luca, ad and all that, and then maybe that's the case. But somebody brought this up that was listening to you, because I listen to a lot of things, listen a lot of podcasts and all that.
Speaker 1:But somebody brought up a really good point is that if it were to get out before it happened, you'd have the fans going on a riot. Do you think the fans wouldn't show up to the stadium and to like all the place they need to show up, to Like to Nico Harrison's home? Like obviously because that's something that crazy fans do nowadays Like they're not going to let you sit there and get to the arena. They're not going to let you get to the facility to even try to make a trade like that happen if they hear about this before it happens. So like I think that when I heard it I'm like it makes perfect sense. It's so simple but yet it makes.
Speaker 1:But it's so perfect is that they had to make sure that the fans didn't hear about this before it happened, because they would go on a riot and never let this trade happen in the first place and they would just raise the temperature so much on the team and the, the front office. You would just raise the temperature of on that, on all of them, so much that you like the trade almost get nixed before it ever started. So like this is what's happening now the, the temperature is only getting higher and higher and that's the part that makes it kind of suck is. That is that you, you, how, how, how, all this is happening. Now you have paying fans that are now paying customers coming to the stadium that they want to voice their opinions about how you traded away their superstar, and they and you're like pretty much quieting them. You're telling them no, you're kicking them out of the stadium. If it is the stadium arena, it's arena, but I'll call it a stadium.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I'm just kind of stupid, but like it's, I think it's only growing the discontent and I think it's it's so bad, even still to this point that like it does raise a question that will a champion, if Dallas went to championship the next three years, is that change the fans mind about this whole experience? I don't think it will, because I think the fans' mind about this whole experience. I don't think it will Because I think the fans can look at, because, even if a championship does happen with Kyrie and AD together in Dallas, I think you can make an even just as big of an argument that's saying, hey, luka just got us to the finals. What if he could have done this? He could have gotten us our championship and he'd still be here and we'd still have him for the next 10, potentially up to 10 years and you, like you didn't have to get rid of their superstar. You potentially still get that championship that you're. That the Nico Harrison and the ownership is claiming that this move is going to get them closer to being so. I just think there's just growing discontent between the fans and the owners in the team and the ownership, and I think it's for good reason. And I think for all the issues that everybody talks about with Luka, I just think I just I haven't heard one very good argument as to how this happened, because there is no good argument.
Speaker 1:You traded a guy at 25 and right before the start of his prime, that even worst case scenario, you're going to get another five years of the production that he's been giving you and it's all time type of production. He's already gotten you to a finals. He's already been to. He's already been to a conference finals and a finals before he's turned 25. He hit the before he's turned 26 and hit the prime of his career, let alone what's going to happen once things start coming together if some of the issues that they've said that he's had he starts fixing. I I just think it's a, it's a big deal. I just think it's a. It's a big deal overall and I think it only makes it worse.
Speaker 1:Kind of, get away from the luca thing real quick. That dallas, when, as soon as they traded for ad, ad comes out to play the first game he possibly can and he ends up hurting himself and now they're claiming that he's going to be out for a month with, I think, an abductor strain. I think they said he had the same kind of injury beforehand which is why he couldn't play when he was with the Lakers for the last few games. But he comes back trying to prove a point to the Dallas fans and then now he's going to be out for a month. So now that guy that you traded Luka away for the other superstar in the deal because everybody likes to ad, everybody likes to treat ad like he's a piece of trash. He's not. He's a very good player on the latter half of his prime, but with the same issues when you talk, like some of the same issues when it comes to injuries, and I'm not going to say not taking care of himself, but he's, he's on, he's on the other side of 30. So even if he was in peak, taking care of himself.
Speaker 1:Father time is undefeated and I think AD, especially being a big man, it only compounds on top of each other for that as well. So it doesn't make it any better. It's that now those Dallas fans that guy you were saying everybody should be so excited you have you're not going to have him now because he tried to come back from injury too fast and he re-injured himself and now he's going to be out for even longer. And now those same Dallas fans are going to watch Luka now play these last two games with the Lakers. He hasn't played a lot. He hasn't really played all that great, but you're seeing some sparks fly as to what him and LeBron can be together.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to sit here and say that it's going to turn them into a championship team either this year or next year. It's still a 40-year-old LeBron. Lebron's still playing great. He's playing probably a top 10 player in basketball right now, even at his age. It's insane to even say that, but it's really the truth because he's being so consistent and being so good. So consistent and being so good, and now that he can kind of lay off some nights and kind of put some of the offensive burden on Luka, I think LeBron can pick his spots even more as to what he's going to put his energy into throughout a season and throughout a basketball game, and I think it can make it, especially once they kind of figure out how they want to play together. I think it'll make it even more dynamic of a duo. So I'm not saying it'll lead to a championship or anything, but at least it'll be a fun time, if not that, and I think it'll lead to Luka being the next superstar for this Lakers team for years to come.
Speaker 1:So I just think this whole thing is just a huge mess and I just think I feel very bad for the Dallas fans because they lost their superstar and they have not heard any type of good reasons from either ownership or Nico Harrison as to how this is a good idea by any means. And I just think that this is where this is one of those times where this is one of like the very crazy times where I can totally understand if a bunch of Dallas fans just stop being Dallas fans to start following Luka around. And I think everybody likes to complain about how the NBA is so player-based and player. It's a play, it's a power to the player type of league now and I think for reasons like this is probably one of the good reasons why that's like one of the potential good reasons. Why is that people used to have so much more loyalty to the jersey rather than the player? But when stuff like this happens, there is no good reason to stay loyal to that Dallas team. They weren't loyal to their superstar, they weren't loyal to their fans. That love, that superstar Luka was universally loved by those Dallas Mavericks fans and they kind of ruin that and I think that it just it's great.
Speaker 1:It's a lot, of, a lot of doubts about this team at coming out of this and I think it's only gotten worse with ad getting hurt and now you're not going to be able to even see him. Even with kairi, like I said last, like placing the uh, I think warriors last, I think last night or the night before, he played great and he got a win and he's playing very good ball. Kyrie is on the other side of third. He still has issues with father time as well, even if he's a lot more healthy and he takes care of himself a little better. But the fans, even if they get excited for a little bit by seeing Kyrie play as great as he did the other night. He had a 40-point night. I believe they're still going gonna go home that night saying, hey, what do I look at this? They're gonna look at that Luka jersey that they had in their closet, that they idolize so much because he was such a great player for them. Like that, it's only gonna be a little.
Speaker 1:It's like a short little boost of not thinking about it and they're gonna have to go home and think about it again and I think it's gonna be a wound that going to hurt for a long time for these Dallas Mavericks fans. And I don't even think it's getting to a point now where I don't even think a championship is going to be able to fix it. I really don't. And I think, especially if Luka starts playing well with the Lakers and he has a nice fruitful rest of his career with them, because I don't think the Lakers are going to be done up to get rid of him unless something catastrophic happens. So I don't think they're going to play with that. So, as long as he takes care of the things he needs to take care of and he has a nice little career for the rest of his time in the NBA. He might have a championship with the Lakers and I think it's only going to make it that much more painful for Dallas Mavericks fans knowing that they had him in their hands and the ownership slash. Nico Harrison just gave him away for packing peanuts into Anthony Davis because they had their potential inside issues with Luka and nothing. That really seems like it's very obvious as to why getting rid of Luka was a great idea, which I don't think anybody with a brain can say that there's a good reason why to get rid of him. So that's it for that Get off that Luka thing. But I do get something else is that the Lakers Everybody knew that the Lakers, when they traded away AD, got Luka.
Speaker 1:One of their main big holes on their roster left was at center play, like play big man minutes on, especially defensively, you know, against guys like Jokic for the Nuggets. So they did trade for um, mark Williams, uh, center from Charlotte, and I think we did talk about that in the last spot. I'm not sure if we talked about it or not, but it was. It was for to get a guy like him. I think they traded Dalton Connect and like a first round pick for him and funny and crazy enough with the news last week with that we didn't really get a chance to talk about that the Lakers denied the trade like they.
Speaker 1:So when trades like this happen, the players that are getting traded for have to go and take physicals for the team that they are going to to make sure everything's all good. And the Lakers claim that Mark Williams has been either playing through an injury or he has some type of injury going on or injury scare that potentially could go on. That makes them believe that it is not a good trade and they nix the trade altogether. Charlotte doesn't necessarily feel that way. They're sitting there trying to fight it. Uh, to kingdom, kingdom come and they're like trying to make sure this trade goes through because they feel like there wasn't a good medical reason as to why the Lakers would nix this trade. And I think they're claiming that the Lakers are just, they just have a change of heart and they just decided to nix the trade even without a good reason to.
Speaker 1:And uh, as of right now, dalton Connect, the guy that the Lakers traded to try to get Mark Williams, has now gone back to the Lakers and and it has to be a very awkward situation, like as a ownership group and as the owners and Rob Palenka as the GM. You have to now look at Dalton Kinnett coming back into your facility and saying, ah ha ha ha, sorry about that, because they did trade you to Charlotte, one of the worst like I wouldn't say worst teams in the league, but like, not necessarily a great spot if you're trying to play winning basketball, especially for the guy. You literally just drafted this past draft. So like I don't know how many lies you're going to have to give him to make him feel more comfortable again. Because I just think when something like that happens, there's no way a guy like Dalton Connect is going to trust the organization ever again. They trade him away after such a short time there to try to get a big guy and it's not working out. So now they have to kind of try to mend their relationship again after they thought you know you wouldn't be in their building anymore after the trade they made and that's now getting turned back.
Speaker 1:So I don't know, and apparently the crazy thing about it which is why I wanted to talk about this little little story is that if the if they can't come to a solution between the Lakers and the Hornets on this whole Mark Williams thing. It'll come to like a arbitration type of deal where you have like both teams and like a mock trial gets, have to talk to somebody from the league and they're gonna have to like have like a whole debate as to what the reasons are to have the trade or not have the trade and for compensation and all of that. And I think that would be a very fun show because I didn't know that was something that even happens. But I just think that the idea that both teams have to come in and like have their try to come up with their own reasons as to why this trade should or should not happen and try to see whose lies are going to win the best, because I just think there's this is very a fishy whole.
Speaker 1:A fishy thing because either the Lakers really did see something wrong and that kind of leads to what why the Charlotte Hornets didn't kind of make that known to where? That wasn't something. Because if the Lakers saw some injury stuff and they still want to mark Williams, they could have just passed him along and just said, hey, yeah, I know he has an injury, but we think we can get him back to health and he'll be fine for us, because they really do need a big man that bad to play defense for them, because they're kind of lacking that size. So it's not because of all of a sudden a lack of needing that type of guy at that position. They need it even more now. So if it doesn't happen, happen it questions why the Lakers failed him or why Charlotte thought that it was this trade was definitely going to work and that if he is as bad, badly injured as Lakers, say how the Hornets thought this was going to go through.
Speaker 1:It's just it's. It's a whole hush-push of like craziness in story, but I just kind of had to talk about it. I think it just adds even another layer to this whole Luka thing. I just think it's a crazy deal. It really is. But I think the longer this goes by, you're going to have the I think, all-star weekend slash, the week off for the NBA. So that's going to definitely help and I just think that it's going to be a reset going into the latter half of the NBA season and I just hope that we have some good basketball coming out of this, because now the Lakers are now very interesting again. Obviously you already have the Bostons and you have, like heck, you talk't see anything about Jimmy Butler being with the Warriors and it seems like Butler added to the Warriors, kind of gave Steph Curry a little bit of a bump of energy that he needed, and that they're playing a lot better and they're playing at least some good basketball.
Speaker 1:So I just want to see good basketball Cause again. My bulls suck on that. I'm honestly not something I'm gonna be caring about for the rest of the season, because they've punted on the season, trading Zach Levine and doing all the things that they have done to try to, you know, just start trying to tank the season to try to get a good draft pick in this upcoming draft. Hopefully getting a guy like Cooper Flagg would be definitely very nice, or another prospect. It's not like I sit here and watch a lot of college basketball. I really don't. So there could be definitely a guy out there to get, but I'm just not necessarily very uh bright to who that could be. Let's just say it that way. So I just want to see some good basketball.
Speaker 1:Latter, latter part of the season going into the postseason. I just want to see some good ball and I think if Luke can kind of get back to his form, coming off that injury that he had, honestly, before these last two games hadn't played like since before Christmas. So, with all of that being the case, I just think that I see good basketball is great, is good for everybody. I think it just adds to the intrigue of this whole crazy scenario and uh, yeah, that's all. That's all I got on that. So that's it for the Mark Williams stuff. I think that's it for basketball in general now. So again, with football season now being over well, not necessarily over, but a lot of the main news storyline stuff is now not really going to be coming out as fast and furious as usual. So basketball will be something I talk more about. Again, this will be against, really, jace's wishes, because Jace, he cares so much less about basketball than me and I think if we talk about it too long he'll start yelling at me.
Speaker 1:But it is what it is, and I think pods like this, where I get to sit here and talk about myself and just kind of ramble on, if you're willing to listen to me, thank you if you are still, if you're still listening right now. Uh, I just think that you talk about. I do really do find this stuff interesting, not just the game but the inner workings of the players and the coaches and all of this here that happening. I just think it's it's a lot of fun stuff. It's a soap opera and it's in a, in a sense, even more than football and any other sports that you could watch, like NBA is a huge soap opera with a lot of different characters, is a huge soap opera with a lot of different characters, a lot of different players just playing their parts and getting moved around and this, that and the other.
Speaker 1:I just think it's a very crazy thing and I just had to talk about it because this Luca thing is just like a huge seismic thing that people will be talking about for years to come. And it's crazy that we get to live through a time like this where we get to say we lived it in real time, that like 20, 30 years from now that we talk about the Luca trade and like we'll be like, hey, we lived through this. That would be something we can talk about, like how crazy it was really in real time to experience like such a seismic thing happening, because really it really hasn't been nothing like it, at least as far as I can remember, and I'm only in my mid to late 20s, so like this could be the moment, the moment that is talked about for a year, from years to come. So, all right, let's get on the basketball stuff. I do have, selfishly, um, let me see, let me see Selfishly, I have some for my Ohio State Buckeyes. Obviously I'm a big Ohio State fan if you've been listening to the podcast for a while Huge Ohio State fan.
Speaker 1:Obviously Ohio State just won a national title and literally right coming off of that title it has been a lot of craziness happening around this team, not only with the players that potentially are leaving, not leaving, leaving and you have a bunch of players going to the nfl and there's been just been a lot of chaos going around this team ever since they pulled off the ultimate mountain mountain climb to their national championship. They got so ever since then, our players going to transfer. You have the players that are leaving to the NFL and all of that and coaching moves. You had Ohio State lose both the offensive and defensive coordinator. You have Jim Knowles and Chip Kelly. Chip Kelly moving on to the Raiders for triple his salary it's like $6 million a year. You have Jim Knowles leaving Ohio State with maybe some butthurt feelings about how things went last year, and he took a huge pay raise. He's like at $3.1 million, like $3.1, $3.2 million to go coach at Penn State. And then you lost the offensive line coach. Why am I forgetting his name? Justin Fry. I think he's going to go coach with the Cardinals to coach their offensive line. I think he's going to go coach with the Cardinals to coach their offensive line.
Speaker 1:This is a lot of mayhem for Ryan Day to have to deal with in a staff with his staff. Again, ryan Day got his salary increase. He's like the second highest paid coach in college football, right behind Kirby. I think Ryan Day is going to get like 12 and a half mil. I think Kirby's getting a little more than that, but so Ryan Day is going to be here for for the for the foreseeable future. So now Ryan Day has to figure out the coaching staff moves to kind of bring the staff back up to par with all the guys that left and kind of get the guys going into a heck as much.
Speaker 1:Literally three weeks ago, ohio State just won a national championship, but it seems like they're the pages already turned to 2025 and it really it felt like the Ohio State really didn't have Ryan Day and that team didn't have a lot of time to bask in the glory of what they had just done on that playoff run. So I just kind of want to get to the moves that were made by Ryan Day and Ohio State. I agree with some, I disagree with some others. Kind of getting all that. I don't want to talk about it for too long, but I just kind of want to have my piece there because again, jay's sitting here, so he doesn't get to sit here and look at me like I'm crazy and yell at me as I'm talking too much about the Buckeyes, which he thinks always is the case. I mentioned one word about Ohio State or Buckeye, and he starts having an attitude. So, luckily for me, I don't have that issue right now, so I'm going to go ahead and go with it here.
Speaker 1:So we'll start with the offense side of the ball. I feel like that was the one where it's a little bit less surprises. A little bit less surprise, but there is some intrigue for the moves that were made. So, like I said, chip Kelly goes to the Raiders getting paid $6 million, triple, like double his salary to go coach offensive football in the NFL. Great, he always wanted to be in the NFL. All that fine. Don't really feel that. I feel I don't feel hurt, like he did what he came to do. He's great, happy for him. Hope he has all the success in the world at it with the Raiders at Vegas.
Speaker 1:So to replace him, ryan Day has promoted Brian Hartline, who was the wide receivers coach slash. Actually, he's been the co-oc for three years now. Well, two years, two years now, but he hasn't been the official play caller yet, which is now what the jump that he'll be making. So Brian Hartland will be calling the play starting next year. You have the let's see here. I just want to get a thing of all the moves. Let me think here. Let me see. Oh no, no, I gotta let's see here. Okay, like, like I said, brian hartline's getting moved from wide receivers coach slash co-oc to now he's still the co-OC, but he's going to be making play calls. He's going to be the guy in the booth making the play calls on a play-in, play-out basis, offensively.
Speaker 1:What do I think of that? I think he's waited his time. He's waited his turn. I think Ryan Day has pretty much said that much ever since the move had been made. Ryan Day was supposed to get this calling plays two years ago Didn't happen. I think Ryan Day just wasn't ready to really give it up two seasons ago. Last year Ryan Day was ready to give it up but he ended up getting Chip Kelly to come in and I think Chip Kelly was obviously because they have such a close relationship being Ryan and Chip Kelly. It gave Ryan Day a little bit more latitude to be able to kind of move around, not necessarily to worry about the offense as much, at least until the playoff, where I think Ryan Day became a lot more involved in the passing game and kind of incorporating some more of like his philosophies into the offense, which I think helped make the make the offense that much, that much better to be able to be so much more explosive during the playoff run.
Speaker 1:So I just think that, coming off of Chip Kelly leaving, I don't think there was a way that you could promote, get somebody to come in over Brian Hartline and have him, because I think it's just time for him to take that next step and I think if you want to keep him I'm not even saying just to make this move, just to keep Brian Hartline around and keep those wide receivers here. Yeah, that's obviously part of the situation. That's all-encompassing. You can't lie and say it isn't. But I think that Ryan Day believes that Brian Hartline has earned this opportunity and I hope Brian Hartline has heard and learned a lot of things over these last couple years while he's been the co-OC, to where it'll get him jump-started onto his potential.
Speaker 1:Next next big uh, what do they call it? And not avenue, but like his next bet, his next journey as to becoming a play caller, getting that making that a skill that he can rely on. And then, next thing you know, he'll be taking on head coaching opportunities and, heck, maybe even the next ohio state head coach after Ryan Day is done, who knows? But I just think this is a natural progression. Brian Hartline has done his thing. Brian Day is respecting that and I think, giving Brian Hartline his opportunity, and I think that I hope Brian Hartline's ready to kill it, man. I think he's learned a lot from Chip and learned a lot from Ryan Day over the last couple years and I just think you just have to give him this shot. If it doesn't work out. It doesn't work out, but I just think either he's going to do it here or he's going to do it somewhere else. He's been taking different head coaching and offense coordinator interviews for a few years now. So I think Ohio State, as he's been here for so long paving waiting his time, paving his way, you have to give him this shot to take this next leap, and I hope they do a great job doing it.
Speaker 1:So, along with that move, they promote the tight ends coach, which I am not sure why this is. Uh, why am I forgetting OSU Titans coach Keenan Bailey? They promote Keenan Bailey to co-offensive coordinator so he's going to have a little more responsibility when it comes to making the offensive game plan. He's mostly a tight ends guy. He'll also be coaching the tight ends still the position he's been recruiting and doing a great job doing. Honestly, I think this tight end room coming into next season will be probably one of the most talented that we've had in years. So he's doing a great job. He'll have a little more on his plate and a nice little raise to bump on with that, along with Brian Hartline. All these guys are getting raises and I think it's for good reason.
Speaker 1:I think if he's been, if you've been a part of this and you've helped him. He helped the Ohio State Buckeyes reach the mountain top, not only to keep you around but to show you how much that they meant to this program. That's a. Moves like this are possible. So Keenan Bailey gets a little pay bump and he gets a little bit more responsibility in his plate.
Speaker 1:And to help the, the offensive line, the run game, they bring in a guy named Tyler Bowen I believe is his name. Is it Tyler Bowen? Yeah, office coordinator, tyler Bowen, from Virginia Tech. They are bringing him, bringing him over as an offensive line coach and, like, I think, run game coordinator to help the uh, help help the whole run game and help the offensive line kind of build that from the ground up. So the fact that Ohio State can do this for a second year in a row bring in a guy that was at a higher position and come, bring him in a lower position to kind of help fill the need for Ohio State is definitely a huge deal. Honestly, when I first heard the name I'm like who the heck is that? But with Vatek they didn't really have great passing games while he was there, but he had a great run game. I think they averaged like 880 yards rushing last year per game. So it's definitely something Ohio State could use.
Speaker 1:And, from what everybody says, he's very young. I think he's in his mid-30s. He's going to be energetic and be a very good recruiter. I think they said he's been coaching like 15 years, so he's been doing it for a while even though he's younger. You have heck, one of the rooms he's most famous for being a part of.
Speaker 1:He was the tight ends coach for Penn State at a time where they had a bunch of tight ends all at once. They had Tyler Warren at one point, pat Fryermuth. He had like four tight ends in a row all being drafted and all that. You have Tyler Warren now be the latest guy that will be drafted out of Penn State, but he was the guy that recruited all those great Penn State tackle I mean, sorry, tight ends and I think he has very good recruiting chops and he played offensively. He played offensively. He was a lineman when he was in college and playing, so it's definitely a big deal when he was in college and playing. So it's definitely a big deal and I think that maybe he may not be able to coach a position as well as a guy like Justin Fry can.
Speaker 1:But I think, with a little bit of help with some GAs, some grad assistants and obviously the NIL deals and all that and his charisma to be able to recruit offensive linemen Tyler Bowen, at least, I'm talking about I think that they'll be able to bring in some better guys, because even with Justin Fry doing so well in this last playoff run, he wasn't really a great recruiter when it comes to offensive line and he wasn't necessarily the greatest of builders to all these players. Again, he's had some players that are very good in the offensive line but, like when it comes to starting a guy, having him as a recruit and then building him up to be that guy, it's has not been all that great. So I think bringing a guy like Tyler Bowen he'll be able to bring in some of the better guys and then with him being able to coach a little bit and have some guys on the GA staff they're all offensive line guys would definitely be a huge help. So that's Tyler Bowen, that's Brian Hartline, that is Keenan Bailey All doing this on the offensive side of the ball. You still have Carlos Lachlan, the running backs coach. Oh, billy Fessler, the quarterbacks coach, will be the new quarterback's coach for Ohio State. I think he's not even 30 yet, so he'll be coming. I think Will Howard kind of gave him a lot of credit as to helping Will Howard become the quarterback he ended up being by the end of the season in comparison to how he started. So this offensive coaching staff is kind of put together already. It's younger Brian Hartline's on like less than 10 years into his coaching career after coming off an NFL career and playing well with Miami and all that. So, like Brian Day is going to have to spend a little bit of time to help all these guys get along in their new roles. But I do think that these are guys that are ready for these opportunities. But I do think that these are guys that are ready for these opportunities and I think heck, I think the offense can end up being better going into next year, just based off maybe the better offensive tackles that are coming in off of the portal. And then you have the guys that are coming in from being freshmen and now being sophomores or waiting their turn.
Speaker 1:Turn the wide receivers. Uh, you have the, the front three, the uh middle three of the offensive line all coming back after having a very good playoff run uh, you have the running backs is going to be a little bit of a step back at first from quinch on and travion, but I think you have very talented backs behind them. That you're going to be replacing them with that I think can do some real damage and I just think offensively that not let's not even talk about the wide receivers. They're awesome, they're gonna be great and I think Julian saying most likely the proposed starter going into next year, going coming into his I think this would be his, this would be his junior year coming into next year and he's been a real stud.
Speaker 1:I think everybody at Ohio State if you follow anything recruiting, he was number. He's a five-star quarterback out of high school, very talented, and everybody's waiting for the opportunity. He would have to be able to run this Ohio State offense and I think it'll only elevate you. I think the offense maybe not from the start when they play against Texas week one by the time next season is over. I think this offense, with all the guys coming back and like with like some of the potential upgrades that the Ohio State has made, heck the tight end room, like I already said, being one of the more talented it's been in years. Adding Max Claire, the probably the best tight end in the portal from Purdue like he's a very huge weapon. So I think the the offense by the end of next year will probably even better than the offense that just won a national championship and destroyed everybody in the playoff this few weeks ago. So the offensive side I'm not feeling too bad about. Honestly, I like everything. Give Brian Hartline a chance. Give some of those guys a chance. Warren, he'll be a voice that's done a lot done a lot of coaching and all that. The defensive side is where I have a little bit of my issue right. So let's just start with the defensive coordinator, the biggest one Ryan Day has brought in.
Speaker 1:Matt Patricia, the former head coach of the Lions slash most of his like the most notable part of his career. He was the defensive coordinator for the Patriots under Bill Belichick and I think he's a three-time champ, like three-time Super Bowl winning defense coordinator with Bill Belichick. He's been out of a job for a couple years, though, so like he hasn't really gotten a lot of work as of recently and with Ryan Day having the opening due to Jim Knowles kind of bolting off the Penn State. Uh, they made this call, he brought, uh he brought Patricia in. He liked what he heard from Patricia.
Speaker 1:Patricia like this is my problem. I'm not doubting the football mind, maybe a little bit, because he was with Bill Belichick. So how much of it was Bill Belichick kind of imparting his wisdom and his brilliance onto the defense or was it really? Was it really Patricia really running that thing from start to finish? And is it something that he can bring to Ohio State with some of the ideas that he did there? Because he took it to the Eagles and he ended up being their play caller last year where they were having a lot of their issues defensively and it didn't look that much better than what it was before that. And let's not even talk about the fact that it's two sides of one coin for this guy, because every a lot of people that played for the Patriots and kind of and had some good conversations with them all have positive things to say. But when he became a head coach for the Detroit Lions, with all the things going on with them like he was ran out of town, like he was, everybody hated him, the players didn't like him, the franchise didn't like him. They really found him to be a nuisance or a problem and I just think that, all that being the case, it's now a question as to why Ryan Day would make this move, especially when just promoting a guy like Matt Guerrero, the safeties coach, and Tim Walton, the cornerbacks coach, promoting them just to be co-DCs and just having them kind of keep running the same defense that played so well last year, because they both will know the defense by this point, because they've been with Jim Oles the last couple years. So I just think that there is just a lot more questions than answers with this move for Ryan Day.
Speaker 1:Am I going to sit here and guarantee that it doesn't work out? No, I'm not going to do that. Has Mike Tomlin earned some cash with me where, like in first dealer fans, in no, sorry, ohio State fans, sorry went crazy. Start talking about the Steelers with Ohio? Has he built up enough with this now winning national championship? Has he built up in heck, some of his past? Uh, coaching staff moves have been pretty good. He's had a couple duds, but for the most part has been pretty good when it comes to hiring. So how does he build? Has he built up enough, enough goodwill to be able to make this move to Patricia and not have, like everybody hates it already, but have a little more support and have people be able to wait this process out to maybe see what Ryan day sees as to how, like how this is or is not working or what makes what makes this a good move. So he's gonna be, he's definitely testing it like he has a lot of good will the Ohio State fans now and he's gonna be testing that, that goodwill for a guy like Patricia where, like I said, like I already said, he's been ran out of pretty much every job he's been at and I just think it's a mixed bag.
Speaker 1:As to him being personable, and I think college football, I think that's very important. Maybe that's been alleviated a little bit with the emergence of NIL and like hey, you're got, you're getting paid. Now you can't do some of the things you've been doing, like maybe it's recommended a little bit, but having a good relationship with your, with your coaches and position coaches and all of that I feel like trumps all and I feel like if you can't get a young person, especially that young just now coming out of high school and all that to buy into what you're trying to do. A big part of that is them liking you and wanting to do that for you. So if Patricia can't be personable and get the players on her side, I think it could become a problem.
Speaker 1:But then I'm going to give Ohio State a little bit of credit. I'm going to Ryan Day some credit here and say that there's no way they made this move with one without getting some of the players that are coming back and are are having a major blueprint and well, not blueprint but imprint on what this defense will be coming in next year. Like you think Caleb Downs didn't get to meet the guy before they hired him. I doubt it because, caleb Downs, they had to spend so much time convincing Caleb Downs to come to Ohio State in the first place when he decided to transfer from Alabama. So, like I don't get how they wouldn't call like, bring him in to have a conversation and see how, if there's a rapport there and some of the other guys jermaine matthews, igb, um, sunny styles, like there's a lot of guys on the defense I hope that I had an opportunity to kind of vet the guy and maybe like him and give ryan day a thumbs up before ryan day was to make a move like this.
Speaker 1:But again, if, if, if patricia has learned his lesson from the times he had in the nfl and is going to humble himself a bit, come to Ohio State and kind of just do the job and try to be a little better of a little bit better human doing it, I feel like it can become a home home run type of hire. But I just have my questions. And again, if he was so good, how has he been without a job for a couple of years now, again, when he was the, when he was the Eagles DC? He been without a job for a couple years now Again, when he was the Eagles DC last year, not this past season, but the season before. That was not because they wanted him to be, it was because things were going terrible all around and he was an analyst on their staff. They were like, hey, let's see if you could do it, because obviously he had been at the Patriots before. Everybody knows he was a defense coordinator. They were just kind of break glass and mercy situation and they didn't want to keep him. They brought in somebody else, vic Fangio. The guy ended up helping them win a championship this year.
Speaker 1:So like, if he is that good, why is he on? Why is he sitting there with no job in order for Ryan to just kind of scoop up and bring him to Ohio State? I just think when they're where there's smoke, there's fire and there's some smoke there and I'm not going to sit here and say for sure that this is going to be a disaster, but I have my doubts about this whole situation when it comes to defense. But with that I hope that all goes well. But you have Tim Walton getting promoted to co-DC, so good for him. He gets the pay raise Again. He's been probably the Brian Hart line of the defense when it comes to recruiting for a few years now. James Florentine is now just getting in it for his big, first real class this past recruiting cycle, so he's looking like he's on the same type of path. But Tim Walton has been doing his thing. He deserves the title. He's been putting out some good corners and I feel like he deserves this raise. And he's been a defense coordinator before in the NFL, so he's definitely worth that.
Speaker 1:They also promoted Matt Guerrero to passing game coordinator for the defense, again getting him some more money. I think he's probably the defense coordinator. I'm waiting Because, again, do I think Patricia is going to be at Ohio State for multiple years and stay with Ohio State for a while? I don't. I feel like as soon as the first NFL job comes open, I feel like he will take it, like just Chip Kelly just did. So I just think that Guerrero is going to be brought in, people kept here as a just kind of like the next DC and waiting, maybe learn a little bit more from an outside perspective and then to be able to run the defense whenever that move does happen from Patricia. So I just think that, with all that being the case and who knows about what am I figuring? Oh no, let's see Defensive line. Coach Johnson, uh, larry Johnson yeah, I don't know why I drew a blank on his name. Larry Johnson's still with the team as of right now. He's been like rumored to be close to retirement age for a few years now, but he keeps coming back. I'm not gonna sit here and say either way whether he's gonna come back or not. I hope he does because I think what he did with the defensive line was pretty good last year, but I think, with him being around.
Speaker 1:Speaking of, one of my other problems, potentially patricia is that patricia is a lot more multiple in the way he does his defense. He's probably even more like you could say with Jim Knowles at the DC, obviously as the DC at Ohio State the last couple years. He's very multiple. He doesn't do a lot of like four-down linemen fronts, he's a little more multiple. He has more of a three, four defense and I think that was a a point of contention for for uh, for him and Larry Johnson for the last couple years. I feel like that also helped as to why Knowles decided to leave Ohio State. So and I think Patricia does even more of the multiple looks and three down lineman like he does. Even he's even on the even more extreme end of what Knowles did when it comes to three down linemen and having multiple defenses and very game plan specific.
Speaker 1:So I just don't know how that's going to mix with Larry Johnson who's very stubborn, doesn't want to come off and of doing the 4-3 defense and having his pure defensive defensive ends. So I'm not sure how that's going to mix and if Larry Johnson decides to say I'm not sure how that really comes together or if he decides to leave, that's going to be another another like open hole that Ohio has is going to have to fill at the cut for the, for the defensive coaching staff. So that's another whole little thing about this that just like it just doesn't make sense to me. I feel like they Ryan Davis, he's earned enough goodwill to where we should just trust that he can make he's going to make the right decision and not put Ohio state in a tough spot. But I just think, with there's so many like question, questionable things about this, that makes me kind of wonder if there was a little bit cleaner of an option they potentially could have gone with, if there was a little bit cleaner of an option they potentially could have gone with. But especially if you're just going to promote those two guys, walton and Guerrero, I feel like that could have been a very clean transition. But I feel like Ryan Davis is making he wants the more like coach of the defense types and maybe he didn't feel like Walton and Guerrero were ready for that just yet. So maybe who knows I don't want to go too much deeper into that, but it's just a lot of a lot of a lot of questions about this staff and I feel like it looks okay as of right now.
Speaker 1:Who knows gonna be any more changes we'll I'll talk about on later podcast, but again without Jace here, this seemed like the perfect opportunity to kind of keep talking about uh, talk about things I want to talk about, and that includes my favorite team of all. My fandoms is the Ohio State Buckeye football team, so I wanted to get the get that out of the way. Um, oh, by the way, I think I kind of mentioned this, but like main main things at Ohio State, with all the changes happening right away, I just feel like it kind of took away from the basking in the championship that was for for them and I kind of feel bad for Ryan Day and for that team is that they could not. It almost felt like immediately as soon as that night was over, winning that national championship. Just things kind of just get moving real quick and I feel like it just takes away a lot of the opportunity. Like heck spring sorry was it winter Workouts have already happened for the players that are now still going to be at Ohio State, like they just won a championship three weeks ago because the season has gone so late into the start of the year.
Speaker 1:So like they barely even got a rest. So, and compare that to the NFL where after the season, especially if you don't play in the playoffs, nobody sees you for three, four months before OTAs and stuff happened again. So I just feel like the fact that these college guys are like with, especially with ohio state, playing as long as they did into the postseason, that now they have so much less rest and I feel like they're going to be changing like everything when it comes to how they get ready in the offseason and because of this potential, like this potential for all this playoff stuff getting longer and longer and it lessening any type of gap that players had to be potentially just, you know, get away from football for a bit and like not have to grind for the next one, and I just feel like, uh, that kind of got taken away a little bit because of the calendar, because of the win in the national championship, and uh, it was just a little bit of a weird thing, definitely a weird thing happening and uh, it sucks. But you know, I'm I'll take, I'll take all my championship gear and I will enjoy it more than enough for the team if they can. So, um, definitely, I'll definitely follow my sword for that one. All right, next thing, let's just like why we're all here. Let me get a drink right quick, getting a little dry. Alright, let's get to why we're all here.
Speaker 1:Super Bowl did happen. I've been rambling on about so many other things. What is it? Almost 50 minutes before even getting to this point Again, I didn't want to lead with this because it really isn't all that much to talk about, at least when it comes to the game itself. But it did happen. But it was a blowout man. The Philadelphia Eagles win this game 40-22. They absolutely embarrassed the Kansas City Chiefs. Honestly, the score like the actual score score itself is much closer than this game was. There was a point where the Philadelphia Eagles were up 17-24. They were up like 31-0 at one point in this game and in that third quarter, like, the Eagles were absolutely destroying the Chiefs and they scored pretty much most of their points in garbage time when the game was pretty much over.
Speaker 1:So how do I start with this game? Coming into the game, I did pick the Eagles to win. Jace picked the Chiefs to win because he believed that. You know, the script is written. Everything's ready for Patrick Mahomes to win this game and for them to have their three-pe. I'm like you know what I'm gonna hope against hope because even I, as much as I like, I really do think the eagles were a better team going into that game. The idea that you'd be counting, like, for a third year in a row, like being on the side that patch mahomes is not on, after what he's been doing for so long in his very, very crazy career that he has had so like the idea of doing that is very scary. And I did pick the eagles was more like hoping against hope because nobody wants to sit there and like I just, I just almost who. How is the world a better place? How, like wouldn't say a better place? But how can we live in a world where the Chiefs have a 3P the first team to ever do it, with Patrick Holmes and Travis Kelsey and social media? It just seemed like it was so wrong that this would be the team that gets the first 3P in NFL history. So definitely something I ended up watching with joy and then ended up by by halftime kind of just doing something else and just kind of having the game on the side instead of just watching just the game so intently.
Speaker 1:So let's get to the start, the start of the first. The start. Let's just kind of get into a little bit of a recap here. Um, start of the first quarter. What was it? Um, eagles hit the ball first. They take the ball right down the field. They have a seven play, 69 yard drive. Well, no, that was that was very let's see. Let's see, play by play, there we go, there we go, eagles for short drive at first to start the game. How do, how do I do I do this? I don't. I don't want to get into like a bad, like okay, so let's do this.
Speaker 1:Let's just give some general thoughts on both sides this, both teams in this game, not necessarily do a like a itemized type of deduction. Let's just start with the winning team, the eagles. What allowed them to get have the game that they had against this Chiefs team that pretty much seemed unbeatable all year, not necessarily because they were so much better than everybody, but they were just putting themselves in the best spots, win every single time. And that's exactly what they did. Like they against every team. It's almost like they were just rolling out their helmet and just waiting for the other team they had to face to make a mistake and they took advantage of it every time Late score, early score, a blocked field goal at one point against the Broncos in the season and the Kansas Chiefs just kept finding a way to win. But this Eagles team, like I was talking about before this game started. The Eagles just had to take the Chiefs out and finish them off before the game's even started and that's exactly what the Eagles did Started.
Speaker 1:The game started a little slow for both teams. Both had to punt. But next thing, you know, eagles got a touchdown seven plays, 69 yard drive. Got a touchdown Seven plays, 69-yard drive. I think that one ended in the big play to Dotson for a 28-yard touchdown pass. Got that and then it wasn't a touchdown pass because he was short. And then you had the push-push to Jalen. They seemed like the Chiefs weren't really able to stop that play at all so they were able to kind of tush, push their way into the end zone to get that first score. But it just never. It almost felt like after that point the Eagles almost never looked back. They got the touchdown to go up 7-0. Chiefs don't really play all that well offensively, so offense, for the Eagles Did what they had to do.
Speaker 1:Jalen Hurts was awesome. You have Jalen Hurts 17 of 22, 221 yards, two touchdowns and a pick. Jalen Hurts also 11 carry, 72 yards and a touchdown. Jalen Hurts also 11 carry, 72 yards and a touchdown. Jalen Hurts was the superstar in this game. That's probably why he won the the Super Bowl MVP award, because he was. He was absolutely awesome and the defensive side as much as the defense as a unit played great. But there wasn't really a standout that really deserved that award over a guy like Jalen Hurts that did as much as he did in this game. So Jalen got the nod, got the trophy, did a lot of great things in this game.
Speaker 1:He didn't turn the field, turn the football over, just that one time that he threw that bit, that bad pick. But outside of that he played a very, very, very clean game 17-22, 221 and two touchdowns, and the running ability too that Jalen Hurts brings. He absolutely did everything he needed to do for this Eagles team to win. They got the big plays down the field. They got the big play to Devontae Smith for the touchdown. They had another short play to AJ Brown where he turned it into a touchdown and I just think that for this Eagles team to be as dialed in this late in the season as they were, saquon Barkley didn't do a lot Like Saquon. I think he had like 30 yards rushing total in this game. No, he had 25 carries for 57 yards. He averaged 2.3 yards a carry. Jalen Hurts was so much higher Jalen, like I said, 11 carries, 72 yards, six and a half per carry and a touchdown. So Saquon was really bottled up.
Speaker 1:I think the Chiefs game plan defensively was hey, we are going to stop the run for the Eagles and we're going to make Jalen Hurts have to beat us with his arm and his legs. That's exactly what Jalen Hurts did, took it all, he didn't complain, he went in there and he went in there and did what he had to do and it's just he made every play that was necessary of him. If the Chiefs wanted Jalen Hurts to throw the football, that's exactly what he did. He played it well. He only made that one mistake, but outside of that he was a baller. When Jalen Hurts saw some open grass, he took it and played very well, got the touchdown, had the 11-carry 72-yard to kind of keep the chains moving, and that's exactly what he did.
Speaker 1:This is now two times in a row that Jalen Hurts has been to the Super Bowl and outplayed Patrick Mahomes, except this time around. There's no denying it because they won the Super Bowl. They won it, they did, they took it. They this prime historic opportunity. The Chiefs had to get a three-peat and really cement themselves as potentially the best like dynasty of all time, getting the three-peat and something no team has done in the NFL.
Speaker 1:The Eagles came in and took it offensively. Saquon didn't do anything in this game. He was very. He did some catching the ball out of the backfield but he didn't run. He didn't run wild. The Chiefs took care of that. And Jalen Hurts took up all that slack and he played absolutely amazing football and you have to give him all the credit. And Devontae Smith played great Four, seven, 476, 69 yards and touchdown.
Speaker 1:Like I said, aj Brown had a touchdown. He played well. He had three catches and 43 yards on that touchdown. Dotson, like I said, made a big impact on this game. Barkley had 40 yards receiving, goddard got a couple catches and 30 yards receiving.
Speaker 1:So this Eagles offense absolutely did what they had to do to win this game and it's not like they had to do a lot. They just kind of had to take care of business early on in the game, kind of put this game out of reach because that defense for the Eagles was woo-wee. They were taking care of business, the Eagles. They got six sacks which honestly didn't feel like enough in this game. They were absolutely hunting uh Mahomes all night long. They didn't send not one blitz. They had four guys going after the quarterback every single play and the Chiefs just could not stop those guys.
Speaker 1:Mahomes felt that the Chiefs offensive line couldn't stop those guys and I think you've got probably the worst game out of Mahomes in his whole NFL career because of how disruptive that Eagles defensive line was to the Chiefs. We've been saying all year about how bad their offensive line has been and how they have a left tackle play Like their guard Tooney being pushed out the tackle to play that position and he just doesn't look right there. And the Eagles finally took advantage of that Like they did on the outside down the inside they, like Mahomes, just could not feel comfortable in the pocket whatsoever and it led to him playing bad on all and a lot of fronts. Mahomes couldn't really get into a rhythm at all. I feel like in the first half I don't think the Chiefs had a first down in the first half and, like I said, they were down 24. Nothing like this game was absolutely. I felt like almost over by the time halftime showed up. They couldn't uh, the Eagles defense just kept sending four sitting seven in the backfield and just said, hey, we're just going to put a shell in this whole thing and we're going to break on every out route. And I feel like every time the Chiefs tried to go to a quick passing game felt like those DBs were breaking on everything.
Speaker 1:They made Patrick Mahomes throw two picks in this game. One was a very bad pick. Six to Cooper Dejean. Cooper Dejean, out of Iowa, came in and made a play. I think they said that next gen staff or something like that said they like his GPS, with his speed he was the fastest player to make a play in the postseason. Like he makes a play and then runs fast to make a play. Like he registered the highest number. So like that guy, cooper De Dijon, white guy at all, playing very good defensive back for this, uh, for this Eagles team, quignon Mitchell played great. He was locked down corner for them in this game. Um, you have, like the CJ, cj Gardner Johnson safety.
Speaker 1:They had to keep a lid on the lid on Travis Kelsey, like this defense, for the Eagles played absolutely amazing and they kept getting in touch with Mahomes. He felt uncomfortable and Mahomes started playing bad because of it. Even when Mahomes did have time, he had antsy feet. He was trying to run. He was trying to run thinking there was pressure coming when there wasn't. And when he did get the ball out it wasn't very accurate for the most part in this game and he barely had anything in this like, yeah, 150 yards total passing going into the third quarter. Then they finally kind of kind of barrage a little bit in that late third, early fourth quarter for Mahomes to have. Finally he went 21 to 32, 257 yards, three touchdowns, two picks. Like I said, those two picks, one was a pick six to Cupertagine and the other he ended up getting bumped and got picked by Blankenship, I believe. So he made his mistakes and I think the passing numbers will unfortunately not give the full context as to what this game truly was, especially with the score being a little closer, even though the game wasn't actually close for these two teams. If you watch this game so it's a little bit misconstruing. But again, I'm not going to say you're trying to blame Mahomes, as if he should have just laid down and taken the beat down, but I just feel like there might. Hopefully there are going to be enough people that are going to put some context on this game for stats for in future years to talk about that.
Speaker 1:Eagles got the job done and the the Chiefs just did not have anything for this Eagles team on this day, especially when it felt like the Chiefs were the team of destiny. They were the team that were coming in to take a big bite out of history and the Eagles said no to that. So I'm done talking about the Eagles' defense Played great, got crazy pressure. We're just sending for every single time I think it's only happened a couple other times in the Superbowl and every time the defense that doesn't have to send extra people and still get crazy pressure all in the Superbowl. So like this is a formula that really works. And heck, the last time the chiefs lost Superbowl and patch my homes looked like as bad as this, even though I think it was less than what Holmes against Tampa Bay, but the problem still existed is that that that Tampa Bay defense really got off Patchwell Holmes and really kept him uncomfortable. And I just think that that's the formula and it's been proven twice now that if you get Holmes's head and keep the offense off balance and off a rhythm, and then I think you can really make an impact on what this offense is and kind of maybe neutralize it a little bit. So that's all I got on. The Eagles played great Jalen Hurts and the MVP. I think he needs to be a top five quarterback going into next year, just based off what he's done in this playoffs alone. But again, we'll get to that later when I have Jace on.
Speaker 1:But I feel like the Eagles, team-wise were were more than deserving of winning this game. Weren't given enough credit to make that thing. Come in and win this game, because again they're fighting against history with that Chiefs team. But they came in and did their thing, offensively, defensively, special teams. They did what they had to do. So that's all I got on that one Defensively for the Chiefs Sorry, sorry, sorry. I already talked about the offense for the chiefs. My home has played terrible, like I said, didn't really do a lot, did a little bit late, um, but it just wasn't enough. That game was pretty much over before he kind of got into his full thing, so I'm not going to go too deep into that one.
Speaker 1:Um Couldn't run the football whatsoever. I think they had Mahomes was the leading rusher for them in this game. He had 25 yards off four carries, but outside of that they had no rushing. Their leading rusher outside of Patrick Mahomes was Kareem Hunt with nine yards off three carries. Next one was Samaje P Ryan with eight yards off of one carry, and then Isaiah Pacheco had three carries for seven yards. So like this team could not run the football whatsoever and I feel like that only that only allowed the Eagles to get more and more emboldened to keep sending their guys and not worry about the run as much because they kept stopping the run and I feel like that just opened up room for them when you were just trying, when uh opened up room for their whole defensive line to kind of come through and like like Swiss cheese, and uh, that's exactly what happened was they the Chiefs has caught, could not do anything, couldn't protect Mahomes, couldn't do the run game and their wide receivers, like Worthy, made some big plays and got some separation. But like you kind of expected that. But again, a lot of that wasn't. It wasn't kind of like you know, garbage time you want to call it because the eagles were already up so much by the time that happened. Um, but it was mostly garbage time worthy.
Speaker 1:Eight receptions, 557 yards, two tutties. Um, kelsey really didn't do much much. He had four catches for 39 yards. Hopkins did do it. He had one really bad drop later on in that second quarter where it felt like if the NFL guys would have scored there sorry, not the NFL guys, but if the Chiefs could have scored there on that because if Hopkins doesn't drop, that ball ends up kind of getting, if not getting, into the end zone, he gets close to the end zone and I feel like that could have changed the dynamic of the game if the Chiefs were able to get a late stage touch and, especially in that first half, a touchdown there. So that was a big drop from him. Julius Masuster had a couple catches, didn't really do all that much, but again, it's not like people really expected him to be a superstar. Hollywood Brown did relatively nothing two receptions, 15 yards. Kareem Hunt, pacheco and Gray all had like five yards or less receiving. I feel like this Chiefs catching game like not catching game, receiving these receivers right.
Speaker 1:Worthy is a very good talent, great, but outside of him there really wasn't a lot. Kelsey is has lost his step. He really can't get away from anybody anymore. Who knows if it's an injury, who knows if it's just him being older? But it's just. Kelsey does not look the same as he was two years ago and I think he wasn't able to do what he needed to do in big moments last year. But in this year upcoming in a big moment, is he going to be able to do what he has to do? And I just think that that's going to be a question for him and his family. But if he decides to hang it up after this year or not, that's going to be a big thing.
Speaker 1:But if not, I'm expecting him to get better. If not, I'm expecting him to get better. If not, I'm expecting Kelsey trying to come back and make some type of right as to how bad his playoff performance really was, especially in that playoff game, but in the championship game. But uh, I don't know. It's, it's a.
Speaker 1:They need another weapon. They have Rasheed Rice probably coming back after this year off of the injury. But they probably need other guys. They need running backs like their running backs really aren't that great. They need wide receivers. They need offensive linemen. Um, they just have a lot of issues offensively, um, and I think they kind of all like all those issues we've been talking about all year for this chiefs team and they just kept winning. So it made us that were like kind of skeptical about the chiefs going and reaching all their goals winning a super bowl and all that. They were making us look crazy because of how much the Chiefs were able to. Just, you know, take care, take advantage of what they could, play clean games and win football games, and it just it made us all look stupid for a bit there. But I think it finally read its ugly head and I think the Eagles were the main force behind that.
Speaker 1:Defensively, like said, the Chiefs did what they were supposed to do. Their game plan was that, hey, we're going to keep Saquon Barkley in check Again. Like I said, saquon only had 50 yards rushing. He really didn't do a lot. He had 40 yards receiving, but he didn't really have any explosive plays. The Chiefs kept everything in front of them. They had a wall on the on the on the line. And again, could they stop the touch, push no, when the when the Eagles wanted to. But like, again, not a lot of teams can stop the Eagles from doing that when they decide that's what they want to do. So like, that is essentially an issue.
Speaker 1:But like, outside played a very good game, again they, they let up. Let's just take away the pick six from patch mahomes through and the other pick that he threw that because he was in his own territory and it kind of gave the eagles another chance at a touchdown there and they took it. So that's 14 points. That's so 40. Take away the 14 that were just given up by the offense. They only gave up like what is it? What was it? Two touchdowns, that's 14 points. So 20, was that 26.27 points? So, like they all, like, if you as the Chiefs team, say, hey, we can keep this Eagles offense that is very explosive, down to 27 points, I I feel like that's something the coach, andy Reid, would ask for and be like, hey, I'm cool with that, because I think our offense can get more than that, get close to 30. And that just did not happen at all. But it didn't happen when it comes to the offense, wasn't able to keep up there under the bargain when it comes to scoring 30 points. So I do think the Chiefs defensive line did their thing. Their defense did their thing. They did as much as they could.
Speaker 1:Eagles were better that day. They were able to get a lot of big plays going. Jalen Hurts was an absolute monster. Every time I felt like the Kansas City Chiefs were going to be able to make a play and get off the field, but and then Jalen Hurts found a way to either make a play himself with his legs or able to get to the ball, to the open guy. And that's exactly how this game went and the Eagles just kind of kept taking advantage of it. And there were opportunities, there were opportunities for the Chiefs to kind of make this game close again, but they just couldn't do it. And by the time the game, the whole thing, whole thing was over. It looked closer than what it truly was and I think that it just kind of sucks that it's not going to go down in history probably as emphatic as it probably was, as it was in the moment.
Speaker 1:Um, other thoughts, um more matt, not micro but macro thoughts. Does this impact mahomes's legacy. Yes, when it comes to three feats now out of reach, he's still chasing after Tom Brady. He still has plenty of time in his career too. So I'm not going to sit here and say he's the worst quarterback of all time now, but he has two Super Bowl losses now where he's not played all that well, especially this past one where he played like trash. He played like garbage and again, as much as they had people coming after him all night. You have to try to find a different way, and it seemed like Mahomes kind of panicked in the moment and he just wasn't able to get the job done when they absolutely needed him to. And that's exactly how that works, because when you win a championship or you win these games, you get an overestimated amount of praise, but when they lose, you deserve an overestimated amount of blame as well. So that's what I got with the Patrick Mahomes side of this whole thing.
Speaker 1:Like the Chiefs in general, they're going to have to retool. I've already said that they need offensive line help. They need a lot of offensive line help. They need wide receivers, they need running backs Like they need a lot. Their defense is probably a little more set, but they always could draft some more guys, kind of fill in roles and all that. But I think this Chiefs team Is going to be able to get back to things. They play very aggressively when it comes to their front office and they make moves they need to make.
Speaker 1:I just think that the Chiefs team is not over Like they'll be back. This will only make them more. This only makes them feel more motivated coming into next year. Imagine if they're just fat and happy off a three-peat this year Coming into next year. How do you get the mental edge back? But I think the Chiefs now have all the mental edge they need to try to come back, get to this moment again in the postseason and in the Super Bowl and try to right this wrong. So this Chiefs team is planning to retool and reswitch and all that, but they're going to do what they have to do because they have a commitment to winning in a way that not a lot of teams do, and I feel like they're just going to take this very embarrassing moment and they're going to turn something better out of it again. Will they will turn into a championship next year, who knows? But I feel like they will be a better team coming out of this. Maybe, if maybe not right away, maybe it takes a couple seasons to kind of get into the flow of things, but they have a little bit of time because they just have a younger roster, especially defensively, and once, like Kelsey decides to leave and but, like you'd, have a lot of young guys on that team, like including Mahomes, so you have a lot of time on your hands to figure that kind of stuff out.
Speaker 1:Um, eagles macro won a national championship. They're great. Um, they're gonna keep being aggressive. You, they have all their signed and it's not like they have a lot of guys. They have some guys leaving on the defensive side, but they keep signing defensive guys and drafting them. So that's not something I'm really surprised about. I just feel like, you know, this Eagles team is maybe set up for their own potential run to make their own dynasty type of team. Sorry, I was blanking there for a second. So, with all that being the case, I do think the eagles are coming out of this game like like, hey, they can, they have a appetite for more and they can. I think jalen hurts played awesome and he'll be. I feel like this only gives him more and more confidence to kind of keep doing what he's doing and not worry about what everybody else has to say, because every time he's gotten in a big moment and had to do it, he's done it and he's played great both times. So you know, all credit to Jalen, all credit to that team, all credit to the wide receivers, offensive linemen, defense, all the levels. It was a nice little viewing. The game wasn't great, but watching the Chiefs get beat like that was awesome. That's the part that was cool about it. Getting out of the game Not out of the game, because I want to talk about the halftime show by Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 1:He was the main guy. He came out, did his songs. I'm not the biggest Kendrick Lamar. He was the main guy. He came out, did his songs. I'm not the biggest kendrick lamar fan by any means. I like some of his songs, like I like two of his albums good kid, mad city and damn are probably the two best ones I've listened to. But I really don't like anything outside of that. Um, I was intrigued to see, like, if he would do the song about drake at all. Uh, not like us and he did. He kind of played with it for a little bit, which was crazy. Um, that part was fun. And he there was a part where he was talking straight to the camera.
Speaker 1:I felt like maybe that show wasn't for everybody. If you're a big Kendrick Lamar fan, I feel like you loved it, but if you weren't, feel like you hated it. But I feel like, to a certain extent, that show was a show for one. I feel like I heard. I think I feel like, to a certain extent, that show was a show for one. I feel like I heard. I think I heard like, but Monty Jones say it this way, but like that whole thing was for one man and one man only, and that guy was in Australia trying to find something else to do but watch this, go on.
Speaker 1:But uh, you know, ken's Lamar kind of put the exclamation point on things. He talked to Drake right in the camera and said his piece and gave it a game over in the stands after, after this whole show was over. So, um, if you're a big Kendrick Lamar fan, everything's great, but if not, you have your questions and all of that. But, uh, I don't know, I don't know. I have mixed feelings. I just don't want the biggest Kendrick Lamar fan and not to mention he was just. He just performed the Super Bowl a couple years ago when Dr Dre and Snoop were doing it. Ken Gilmore was in that show and he performed some of his bigger songs and then he redid them at the Super Bowl that he just did.
Speaker 1:So I just feel like it was like hit a lull there in the middle all the way up until he hit the nut. He did not like us and everybody. You know the a minor part was what everybody kind of attached to, but outside of that it wasn't like the stadium had a lot of juice and energy to it. I just felt like it was just kind of meh altogether Mid and some choices were made. It just didn't hit for me, but it hit for a lot of Kendrick fans and all that, but I'm not one of them.
Speaker 1:And for Super Bowl fans in general, because there's a lot of Kendrick fans and all that, but I'm not one of them and for Super Bowl fans in general, because there's a lot of people that were just there for the carnage. They just wanted to see that one moment and they didn't really care about anything else. They got it. Kendrick gave it to them. He wanted to rub it in Drake's face one more time. I just think, hopefully this is the end. There's no way you can do any more of this whole beef thing. I feel like Kendrick Lamar has shown Drake up to the highest degree. I, the world man, the world watched the Super Bowl and I feel like Kendrick just kind of, you know, finished him off right there. So I don't know, it's a it's, it's a crazy deal. It's a crazy deal, crazy deal, um, but I'm just wasn't a fan about how all that went. So I think I got to all the factors I wanted to talk about with the Super Bowl. All right, that's all I got with the Super Bowl. It's a halftime show and all that.
Speaker 1:I know I will get Jason on the podcast on the next one and if he has any other thoughts on how the Super Bowl went and all that and his Chiefs hate, I'll give him his opportunity to do so. But let's go ahead and get into some of the other news and notes of the NFL stuff before I get out of here so you don't have to listen to me lose my thought process and ramble on anymore. So I have like four things here. I kind of want to get into Eagles.
Speaker 1:Offensive coordinator, kellen Moore, fills the final open head position, um, by becoming the New Orleans Saints head coach. Uh thoughts, my thoughts was this job sucked to begin with? Um, it's crazy Kellen Moore even decided to take this job. But I feel like to a certain extent you have to kind of get him where you fit in, because if you don't take this opportunity and then something bad happens while you're the OC with the Eagles next year or something like that you get fired. It can ruin any type of momentum you've had coming into this coaching cycle. So if you don't take this opportunity and then things kind of happen, he may never get it back. So I understand him needing to take the spot, even if it isn't the most primed spot for success. I'm not saying the Saints team like they are in cap hell. They have so many guys they're having to pay and like are they going to keep Derek Carr, and they just have so many older players on their team that are getting paid a lot of money and they're over the cap by a lot. So I just feel like there's a lot of downsides to being on this team right now where you really have to kind of really rip this thing down to the studs and start over. But if he gets the right type of buy-in from the brass to really do what he wants to do, I don't know, maybe he can turn this whole thing around. But I just, you know, he's a good play caller to a certain extent. I'm not saying he's special like the McVeighs and the Shanahan, the Shanahan's, but he's. He's good, he's done his thing at multiple spots and uh, he'll, I guess it's his job now to try to fill the fill the void and uh, try to make this team a lot better than what it has been. So that's on, that's for that. That's it for that one.
Speaker 1:The next story Jets announced the split from uh NFL vet QB Aaron Rodgers. Thoughts for both sides. So for the Jets, I feel like they really needed to make this move. Aaron Rodgers, ever since he got to the Jets, kind of took over the culture and the coaching staff and he, honestly, the GM, like he kind of took over the GM position. He was like talking straight to the owner. He kind of took over the GM position. He was like talking straight to the owner. He kind of brought in the guys he wanted to bring on his, his buddies and Devontae, adams, lazard and like other guys that he's already comfortable with and I feel like he kind of took over everything and with it's one thing if you that first season, you get hurt right away and then things don't go well, fine, fine it's cool. But last year he played all year and things didn't go well. And with all the antics that he has and him talking on the Pat McAfee show about crazy stuff and always talking about like kind of he's never just like the PC, like Tom Brady, just give him the answer we need and go. He's always trying to be more interesting than that.
Speaker 1:And I feel like, with all the BS, if you're playing like the prime Aaron Rodgers, I feel like a team will deal with that and be cool with it. They wouldn't be cool with it but they would live with it because you're that good. But with Aaron Rodgers being as bad as he was last year, there was no way. Coming into this year with a brand new head coach and Aaron Glenn coming from the Detroit Lions where he was the DC, I don't feel like there was any chance he was going to be able to take Aaron Rodgers doing the exact same thing he did this year next year. So if he wasn't going to comply, they were going to get rid of him and apparently, whatever conversation they had or maybe the he was just made I'm sorry the the Jets kind of made the decision they were going to do what they wanted to do and they want to just start right now, without having the Aaron Rodgers in the locker room, and kind of start, start off fresh. I'm very happy for them because I just think that the longer this thing hung on because Aaron Rodgers isn't going to automatically become the guy he was three, four years ago again and gets to a Super Bowl. So if that's not the case, rip the band-aid now, no matter who you're going to have your court as your quarterback next year. Anything is better than this because at least you like, you have a fresh slate and you have your locker room back and you have your team back and I think with Aaron Rodgers there, last couple years it has been him taking over and it's his locker room, his team, he's the one talking straight to the owner. I feel like he just takes up so much oxygen in the room that I just feel like the Jets are going to be better. Better by um, addition by subtraction is the saying I'm trying to go for here. So that's for the Jets side. I'm very happy for them. Good that they have this moment to realize he's been bad and it's not worth the trouble that he brings to keep him on going into next year.
Speaker 1:On Aaron Rodgers' side, everybody's like, hey, is he going to play? Is he going to want to play next year? For how much? He'll be a? He'll be a free agent. So it's not like so the Jets are going to cut him at some point. So what's going to happen with that? Are they? Who's going to end up taking him?
Speaker 1:There's plenty of teams that are going to need a quarterback going into next year. The Steelers are one of them and I'm like, oh hell, no, I really hope that they don't pull that trigger, because I I just feel like that I've seen what Aaron Rodgers is. I don't think he's even an upgrade from what we have with Russell Wilson. And if the Steelers saw what Russell Wilson did this past season and decided that it's not it, there's nothing Aaron Rodgers is going to bring you that's any better than that. I don't care what the money is for, I don't care how much more he's willing to take a pay cut. So I don't want him anywhere near it. So, with that being the case, I don't want him anywhere near the Steelers. So I hope not. But there's going to be other spots. Maybe he'll find an opportunity to kind of try to ride out the rest of his career, but I'm not feeling confident about that. So I hope maybe for his case, maybe decide just to hang it up and be done and he can just go be, because I think Aaron Rodgers will be bigger at everything else he does rather than playing football. I think you can find something else better to do, but if, but, if he wants to keep playing football, there will be somebody that wants the services. I just hope it's not the Steelers that do it, so that that's my only hope. Somebody will take the cheese on that one, though I have no doubt.
Speaker 1:Next one Josh Allen wins MVP over Lamar Jackson, who not only had a more prolific year, he had better stats pretty much all across the board Touchdowns, rushing touchdowns, pretty much everything from top to bottom. He even won. Lamar Jackson even won was the All-Pro. He was the All-Pro NFL All-Pro first team selection. So he even won was the all pro, like he was the all pro nfl all pro first team selection, so like he even won that. So once he won the all pro, like everybody thought he was just gonna win the mvp too.
Speaker 1:But the voters kind of split the baby on that and just kind of gave uh, josh allen the mvp. And I'm like, so here's my thing. A lot of people were upset because why would you split it? If you're the bet, if you're the, if you're the all pro, you're the best quarterback in the league, why aren't you the MVP? And I'm like I think it goes both ways.
Speaker 1:Mvp does tend to be a little bit more of a narrative type of award, pretty much wherever you're at. It's not, it's not always given to the person with the best stats, because if that's the case, jordan have a lot more MVPs, lebron would have a lot more. Um, tom Brady, he would even have more MVPs and like a lot more, tom Brady would even have more MVPs and a lot of the guys would do it. But sometimes it's a narrative thing and I feel like if the narrative matters and it's not just stats and it's not just wins or losses, josh Allen at least in my opinion, I think did more with less. Did he have a better offensive line than Lamar Jackson did, probably, but I think Lamar Jackson had better weapons than Josh Allen did and I think the way that offense worked for the Bills, I think it was so much more Josh Allen-centric. Again, I'm not saying you're saying that the Bravens didn't rely on Lamar Jackson, but I think that it was so much righter. I think, even to the point, I think both these guys were very heavily relied on by their teams, their their offenses. I think it was just that much more reliance on Josh Allen to be great at all times, to do what they did this past year in comparison to what Lamar Jackson had, because he I think he had a little more talent around him in general. Um, I just think that I I think I agree with with. I think it was close.
Speaker 1:I think either one of them is a worthy candidate to win the MVP, but I'm cool with Josh Allen winning it and I'm cool with Lamar Jackson, not because Lamar Jackson already has two. Again, I don't want to necessarily jump right to the oh, he already has two, he doesn't need another. I'm not going to go into that, but I do think they're both worthy candidates. Already has two, he doesn't need another. I'm not going to go into that, but I do think they're both worthy candidates. But I just think the narrative is probably the most the strongest reason why a lot of people didn't want or there are some people maybe they just didn't want Lamar to win it again, win it again. I don't know, there's a lot of people that have different motives, but I think both of them are very, very deserving MVP nominations. They both deserve the um, deserve to win it. And, uh, josh Allen just got the nod on this one, so that's all I got for that.
Speaker 1:I think Saquon Barkley did win Offensive Player of the Year, so that's good for him. He was awesome. Joe Burrow won Comeback Player of the Year, coming off an injury from last year. That's definitely fitting. I think he even made a joke when he won that award. He's like, hey, it's kind of crazy that I was nominated for this award twice and finally won it. I think he's very self-aware in that aspect, but he won that. Defensive player of the year, I think, was Patrick Sertain Awesome corner, played great all year. He definitely deserved to win that award and there's really nothing else I thought of that comes to mind when it comes to the awards. That's all I got for that.
Speaker 1:And then, okay, last but not least, hall of fame inductees um, uh, we're, we're in, we're announced, I think. The hall of fame guys let me get all their names. I think one was sterling sharp, the brother of shannon sharp, the the wide receiver for, I think, most of his career with the Packers. I think he only played seven years, but they were very dynamic seven years. I feel like all of his numbers were right behind Jerry Rice during that time where he was like right there with him. His career was cut short due to injury. I think for a lot of years people were worried about, were thinking about like hey, if his career was longer, would he have been a Hall of Fame guy? And I feel like they finally just kind of let him in. I don't know, did he play long enough? I'm not sure. I feel like they did kind of he's been waiting for so long. I feel like he's been waiting for like 25 years, something like that.
Speaker 1:From what I heard, from what I read, hall of Fame inductees I want to get the other three. I think there's only three guys that were inducted, so I just want to get the other ones. Nope, hall of Fame inductees 2025. But, yeah, sharp, good, it was good for him to get in. Um, nfl god, there's too many hall of fames. Crazy, um sharp it is. I think it's more of a narrative thing to bring him in, because now you have shannon sharp and sterling sharp are the first brothers to be inducted into the hall of fame together um, not together first brothers to be inducted into the Hall of Fame together Not together, but to both be inducted into the Hall of Fame. So that's definitely a nice little thing there. But again, I think a lot of people understand that Sterling Sharp was a Hall of Fame player that just did not play long enough to get all the stats that he probably needed to get in. But they finally let him in. Cool for them.
Speaker 1:Antonio Gates got in. He was awesome. Very finally let him in. Cool for them. Antonio Gates got in. He was awesome, very good tight end. He was probably one of the more prolific tight ends of his time, especially in that, like the mid, early mid 2000s, playing with the Chargers, with Phillip Rivers, antonio Gates is absolutely unstoppable. Um, it was like uh, why am I forgetting the guy's name? Uh, during that time it was Gonzales, anthony Gonzalez, and then Antonio Gates were the two big ones. They were both monsters. Antonio Gates was insane, insane playing at tight end. He was practicing softball, played basketball in college. He played the tight end position like playing basketball. He was just big body and everybody dude. He was a crazy, productive tight end that definitely deserved it.
Speaker 1:Jared Allen, defensive end, played for, I I think, most of his career with the Vikings. He was an absolute crazy sack artist. He was crazy, had 12 years of his career played awesome. He was definitely deserving. And then the other guy was Eric Allen. I did not really watch much of his career at all. I think his career ended in like 2000. But he had 54 interceptions, 9 defensive touchdowns and 217 games played.
Speaker 1:He was another guy that was long deserved to be in by a lot of guys that were Hall of Famers that all said that he deserved to be in too. It was crazy how they only let four in of Famers that all said that he deserved to be in too. So it was crazy how they only let four in. Like there were guys that were available to go in, like Eli Manning. The fact that he didn't get in was crazy because this was his first time being up to get in. I feel like they made a statement by not letting Eli in um with that like did I? I kind of I'm cool with it. I'm I really am because Eli 50 50 percent win percentage for his career.
Speaker 1:He had those two legendary runs to go win the Super Bowl, which is great. Kept Tom Brady from winning two of them, which is definitely a huge feather in his cap. But other than those two runs, eli was a very mid-quarterback throughout his career. So I do feel like that was a chance for them to make a statement. They could have easily just let him in and there would have been some people that were mad.
Speaker 1:But at the end of the day, eli's going to get in at some point. It's just when are they going to let him in? Is he going to be a second time? Is he going to have to wait two years, three years? And people were talking about oh, he's going to get in at some point. He's going to be in the Hall of Fame. There's no question about that. It's only win.
Speaker 1:So again, did he deserve to be in the first round? No, probably not, because he was so mid throughout most of his career. There were times, like more years where he was leading the league in interceptions rather than leading in a touchdown. So he did have those two very, very monumental runs at Super Bowls where he played absolutely on fire for those two times. But it's just when so much of your career is kind of playing in the middle of the pack.
Speaker 1:I do feel like it was fine with him not being a first round, a first ballot Hall of Famer. So it's only a matter of time. But he'll get in. But I do. I am cool with him having to wait a little bit longer to get in, maybe one or two more years. But I'm just not sure. If you can compare it, it's like now you have to wait. Oh, if he's not better than that guy, he should have to wait as long or longer. I'm like, what are we doing here? We're just playing semantics because nobody's really thinking Eli's not going to get in. So what the hell are we doing here? So I just think there are a lot of quite like just it's just. Sometimes he gets real petty and was like we just we all know he's going to get in, like it's questionable, but he's, he's a Manning. He had those two very legendary runs. There's a there's a two times that that. Uh, oh man, that Tom Brady didn't win the Super Bowls because what Eli Manning did. So I'm just like this I think everybody knows he's gonna get in. So I'm just like any talk outside of that just makes it seem petty and spiteful and I'm just like, yeah, it's kind of stupid, but that's all I got. That's, that's all the stories I want to talk about. There are some some Bengals related ones, but I kind of want to wait for Jace to talk about him, because it is related to his team and I do feel like it'll be a lot more explosive if he can react to some of these things that are happening for his team going into next year. So that's about it, for on that front I've done rambling. I've been about an hour and a half now, so probably about about over.
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