JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
No Losses, Only Victims
Is the NBA draft lottery system fundamentally broken? That's the question at the center of this week's episode as we examine how Dallas winning the right to draft Cooper Flagg exposes flaws in how talent is distributed across the league. We make the case that genuinely struggling franchises need more than "just be better" advice when they can't attract free agents and can't count on high draft picks even when they lose consistently.
The quarterback market gets another seismic shift with Brock Purdy's massive $265 million extension. We debate whether the 49ers' decision makes sense given their overall roster situation and whether Purdy belongs in the same salary tier as more accomplished quarterbacks. The comparison to Baker Mayfield's more modest deal with Tampa Bay raises interesting questions about quarterback value assessment.
We then dive into full schedule breakdowns for the Steelers and Bengals, going week-by-week with predictions that start optimistically before reality sets in. The contrast between pre-season expectations and likely outcomes reveals the eternal optimism of sports fandom, especially when discussing one's favorite team.
The Trey Hendrickson contract situation provides a window into how teams value defensive talent, with compelling arguments about where he ranks among the league's elite edge rushers and why Cincinnati should prioritize keeping their defensive cornerstone.
Whether you're fascinated by sports economics, draft strategy, or just want to hear passionate debate about NFL schedule predictions, this episode offers fresh perspectives on the business and competitive structures that shape the games we love. What would you give up for your team to go 17-0? One host's answer might surprise you.
welcome back to the podcast. Today's friday, may the 16th, we're back to the podcast we're back.
Speaker 2:It's two of us, I think I did. I did a solo one last week. We couldn't make it work out, but you got jace here today. We're doing our thing here, planning to talk about nfl, nba, mountain, as much nba, because there's really not. There's like two series still going on as of right now. You got, but before I get into that, nfl had their schedule release this past week. Uh, this, did you watch any of the schedule release videos? I just want to get your live reaction to the Chargers one, because it's the Minecraft one.
Speaker 1:I don't care, it's ass. They do the best one every year. I don't care. I don't care. Okay, sorry, I just really All those games, just to lose to the Chiefs twice. For what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I just like their level of petty. It's kind of fun, even though there's other ones that were petty too. They had the Colts when they got in trouble for talking about Tyreek Hill getting pulled over by the cops and they deleted theirs and they were like saying that we were sorry Tyreek Hill. I found it funny. I don't know why he deleted it, but we'll get to that. Let's start with basketball. Don't have too much talk about there. Like I already said, there's only two series that are still going on right now. Pacers are sitting at home resting up. Who is on the western side sitting at home? Timberwolves? And they're sitting at home resting up waiting for the other side of this bracket to kind of figure itself out.
Speaker 2:So you have Denver and Oklahoma City going into a game seven. I believe they play either tomorrow or Sunday. I think it's Sunday. That's going to be a game seven in Denver Actually, no, it's in Oklahoma City. So that'll be a very big matchup. Honestly, that's been the closest series so far. And then you have the game six going on right now between the Knicks and the celtics. They're going getting close to halftime here and the knicks are currently up 24.
Speaker 2:It kind of sucks, though. Jason tatum got hurt in the middle of this series. He ended up tearing and tearing his gillies ended up getting. It was a big injury.
Speaker 2:My whole thing with, uh, people started feeling really bad for jason tatum. I think this might've changed the course of his career. I don't care. I know Cause everybody likes to take credit away from him how good of a player he is. And the next thing, you know, a guy that's been like perennial Ironman for that team goes away. And the next thing, you know, Boston's going to lose this series and they're going to kind of be taken out in the second round, which round which they haven't been.
Speaker 2:They've been mostly in the Eastern Conference finals for the last three, four or five years, including the winning the championship last year. So yeah, that part kind of that part of it kind of sucks. I know all Knicks fans don't necessarily want to have that excuse of, oh you beat the Boston Celtics but you only beat them because Jason Tatum was out. But it looks like they're probably going to figure this out tonight in game six. Again, it's only a 20-point lead. Those have been erased multiple times over because of how scoring is now. But they're in the garden. I think the Knicks are going to figure it out and end up going to go play the Pacers in the Eastern Conference Finals. But this is my main thing I wanted to talk about with the NBA.
Speaker 2:So the draft lottery happened I think on monday or tuesday. It was monday and they got that all figured out. Do you know how the whole d? Just for anybody that doesn't know do you know how that process works?
Speaker 1:it's like, don't they get like the percentages based on how many games you've lost? Yes, then you have a percent chance to get the first overall pick based on where you're at the bottom three teams, teams record-wise all get a 14% chance.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then it goes up from there. I think the bottom half of the league all technically have a chance Down down, it goes down from there. No, I said the bottom half of the league. All of them technically have a chance to get the first overall pick, yeah, and then you said it goes up. Pretty much anybody that doesn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but again you said it goes up, you mean it goes down.
Speaker 2:Oh, my bad, Sorry. Yes, the chances go down as the teams get better and better of getting that pick, but what they do is with the ping pong balls. Just for anybody that doesn't know, because I actually watched it, they put it on YouTube, the actual ball picking and all that.
Speaker 1:That's how they do it.
Speaker 2:They do with little lottery balls. They go lottery a ball, one through 14. And then they give based on their chances. They give you a list of numbers, so you have to get a combination of four balls from anywhere from one to 14. And then, if one of your accommodations pops up, you get that pick who's highest. They wanted to make it to where I don't think it's rigged. I really don't. I don't think it's cool. But they wanted to make it to where I don't think it's rigged. I really don't. I don't think it's cool, but I just think they wanted to make it so hard to rig it to where people won't have the complaint. But even LeBron said that it was rigged for him to get picked by Cleveland.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that shit was crazy.
Speaker 1:I saw that and I was like that's wild. How can I have?
Speaker 2:your league's most notarized player, give into that idea. Idea, when you're battling that same thing, when people are like, oh, dallas got the number one overall pick, it was rigged because they sent Luka to LA and they got the back end of oh, you can just get the number one overall pick and get Cooper flag, which is crazy. I'll get to that in a second, but I watched the YouTube video because the first time I ever watched it. It's kind of weird. So you get, if you get, your combination pops up and that's where if you get that pick, so that whole thing goes and then they win. Because obviously I was watching because the bulls had a chance to get the number one overall pick. They had like a 1.7 chance. Aha wasn't enough because the dallas mavericks got that pick and they had a 1.8 chance. And you know the funny thing about that is that the bulls and the mavericks had the same percentage chance. They had the same record. So you know how they decided who had the 0.1% higher chance to get it.
Speaker 2:A coin flip. All that they do with a coin flip to figure out that tie Insane. So I was watching it. The Bulls got the 12th overall pick. I'm not going to go too deep into that. They just don't have any luck when it comes to getting a high draft pick at all. So I'm not going to go too deep. So this is my main thing. So I'm not sure if you're listening to this pod. I'm not sure where you sit on the thing. So some people believe that this is the best way to go. This is garbage.
Speaker 2:It takes away chances for tanking.
Speaker 1:Dude. There's teams that aren't trying to tank like the Hornets. They're just ass. They need picks like this Right.
Speaker 2:The Pistons or the Trailblazers? Dude, they're just bad.
Speaker 1:It's not like they're not trying. They don't have good players. They just don't. They're not good enough. Right, they are bad. There is very few teams. You can't say the Pistons, oh my bad.
Speaker 2:They were a playoff team.
Speaker 1:I'm so used to the Pistons being a playoff team.
Speaker 2:They had a top four seed True.
Speaker 1:But who on that team was doing something besides Cade Cunningham?
Speaker 2:But again they had their chance to get their superstar player. That was, and that's where this is where I'll go with it, right? So before we get to that, the top four picks were Dallas getting the first overall pick, sacramento getting the second overall pick, the third overall pick, I think, going to the 76ers and then the fourth one. Hold on, let me make sure I got that right. Come on, give me the years.
Speaker 1:This is a bad time for this to start uh, while you're doing this, um, there's a lot of thing on twitter saying that if players want to wear a retired number, and the guy who whose numbers retired says okay, they should wear a retired player patch on their jersey oh, to still recognize the player yeah, that actually I don't hate that, it's just a patch that goes on one of their shoulders. They were saying about the Giants, since neighbors wears one for Flannery.
Speaker 2:Yeah, flaherty.
Speaker 1:I believe it might be Flarey or Flannery. My apologies, I don't know his name. And then Abdul Carter, winning 11. Which was weird. Sim said it was okay, but his family said it wasn't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is Apparently the daughter, and the ma and the wife were like this is your legacy. Yeah, yeah, and I'm like I don't hate it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why do you have input? It's not your fucking number. I'm alive For Flaherty. He's dead. His family was able. Cool Sims was like yeah, it's cool, I don't care, you weren't in college, yeah, go ahead LT. Yeah, cool, you're not LT.
Speaker 2:Don't get that you got that fucked up. Yes, my whole thing on that is if you are a team that's going to retire numbers, then stick to it. Don't let the player decide. If you as a team are going to be willing to retire numbers because you like that player and you thought he gave something to your program, then fine, but stick to it, don't renege. If you think a player that you're about to draft should deserve that number, stick to it or don't do it at all.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be honest. Numbers should only be retired if that player is really like that. I don't know who the fuck Phil Sins is.
Speaker 2:He was a great, I think he won a Super Bowl with them.
Speaker 1:The Giants have more than two. I don't think that's true NBA.
Speaker 2:There we go.
Speaker 1:Sorry. Oh, I know this motherfucker. He's on ESPN I know who you are.
Speaker 2:Dallas Sorry, it took me that long to get it. Dallas. San Antonio, philadelphia 76ers and the Charlotte Hornets. I was rooting for the Charlotte Hornets, my apologies, he did win two Super.
Speaker 2:Bowls. My bad, I didn't know your game. I was rooting for the Charlotte Hornets to get that first overall picks. At least they're a bad enough team that deserves it, damn okay. So now I wanted to get to my overall point. I don't know why I kind of stopped that in order to say what those top four picks are. Okay.
Speaker 2:So people that there's some people that believe that the NBA draft lottery is great, it lessens the chance for taking, and just says, hey, it's a better overall system of not giving or just automatically giving the team that just wants to screw over their whole season and their fans that overall pick to give them that little, that little thing to go for. And there's some people on the other side that says the draft lottery stupid and it's rigged, which I don't think it is because people that want to believe that I'm like I'm just sitting here like the, especially after watching that video of those of those balls getting picked. You know, the guy there's like a little guy that has a timer, literally a stopwatch, that says when the guy that's picking the balls picks it, he has his head turned. He doesn't even see the whole process. So I do believe the NBA is like making it to where they are trying to make it as foolproof as possible of not having it being rigged.
Speaker 2:Okay, but this is where I sit on this, which is why I think it needs to be gone, and because the nba has made such an effort to make it where super teams aren't a thing anymore, they want the talent throughout the nba to be more scattered out. They want less super teams. They want because of the CBA stuff that they have done over the last two times they've done it. That's how they're doing it. So now, when you have a team like Milwaukee that has Giannis and you go and trade for Dame, guess what their only course of action is when Giannis says, hey, I want to potentially get traded. Either he decides he wants to go and they get a boatload of picks for him, or he stays and they have to break down their team and pay the piper, maybe, suck, maybe to get a pick this nigga, phil sims ass.
Speaker 1:I was very confused because they're comparing eli. He led through for 1800 yards in his first six seasons. Phil sims through for 6 000. My brain, something's not right here. He has two Super Bowls, so I started looking into it. This nigga played the prime LT. They were drafting the same draft class.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they were pretty much a pack of Geel.
Speaker 1:So you have two Super Bowls no Super Bowl MVPs, no regular season MVPs, but you played with a dude who has two Super Bowl MVPs and a regular season MVP. The same year you won the Super Bowl, yes, okay. So what correlated to me is you did just enough. Yeah. You weren't good, you weren't bad. You only ended up with like 25,000 yards. There's motherfuckers in the NFL right now with more yards than you.
Speaker 2:Again, it was a different time, football-wise too, to where passing wasn't as crazy as it is now.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, jerry Rice played there this time. You're fucking lying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but Jerry Rice was transcendent.
Speaker 1:Oh passing wasn't crazy right now. Jerry Rice, god damn it. All their names just left me's the one anchor. What black guy ocha does podcast ocha sinka shannon sharp um what's his brother's name sterling sharp, sterling sharp packer.
Speaker 2:Hilarious how I start remembering names when you first decide to forget them yeah, sterling sharp as good as jerry rice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, his career was cut short, but yeah um, he was playing at the same time, so you're saying it wasn't pass happy, and then I can name a lot of really good receivers from this time.
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure, and a lot of really good quarterbacks from this time there are exceptions to the rule obviously oh cool.
Speaker 1:So the rule is bullshit, if you know, if it's blatantly bullshit.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying it's blatantly bullshit and you know, okay, my bad. So this is where I start to ask you your question. This is where we're going on a thought experiment. Real quick, I'm gonna start asking you a question. You give me your answer. Okay, yeah, if you want your players to be spread out throughout the league and have less bad teams, cool, fine, that's how you want to run your league. Okay, you want less crazy super teams in order for these teams, say the trailblazers or charlotte, do those teams ever truly have a chance to go sign the best player in the nba to come to play there?
Speaker 1:no okay.
Speaker 2:So if you're never going to be able to get some of these players to come there because either it's not a great city or they don't necessarily have the infrastructure, they're a young team that with not as much money, how are you supposed to get the great players that are supposed to help you win a championship? Because nobody's winning a championship nowadays without having a great player. And again it took the boston celtics, who have jason tatum, who was a top 10 player, maybe not a top five. That's crazy. Okay, we can have that argument later. But like even boston, boston's like a premier city in the united states, not for black people at least, but again a premier city in comparison to places like the portland and stuff like that. How are these teams supposed to get these players if, even if they suck, they can have?
Speaker 2:Dallas, who almost made the playoffs, already have two potential hall of fame, one for sure hall of famer, one potential hall of famer. Again, I said anthony davis is is probably a surefire guy. You don't believe that? I don't want to have that argument on this podcast. I I'll say potential, I'll say potential. But Dallas and this is why I think it's not rigged Real quick. Dallas fucked up already and traded their best player. Why would they get a treat to go get the best player in the draft after they already made a terrible decision?
Speaker 1:Fun fact the Lakers almost took this pick. The Dallas almost traded this pick to the Lakers and they said no. Fine how crazy that would have been if they got this pick too. It would be insane. I would have killed myself. There's no reason to watch basketball. I'm done.
Speaker 2:Dallas would have tried harder to make the playoffs if that was the case. But, again, they couldn't control the fact that Kyrie got hurt, was done for that season and Anthony Davis had his little injury issues, so he wasn't able to play as much. Again, you couldn't have. So if you are a team that can't get one of the best players, so you have to be a homegrown guy. Oklahoma City as great as they are now, they had to be able to trade one of their best players for a guy like Shea.
Speaker 1:He wasn't like that though.
Speaker 2:Again, he wasn't't. But if he was a player, he is now in a free agent. Would he ever go to oklahoma city? Nah, so in order to get these players, it has to be homegrown. And if you are going to suck for a few years, if it just happens because not every team is just automatically saying we're just going to lose as many games as possible sometimes it just naturally happens because you just can't have, you don't have good injury, luck or something. Stuff doesn't go your way. But if you're're Charlotte or you're the Trailblazers and all that, now you're getting pushed out. Or the 76ers, who have Embiid, who have who's the other guy? Tyrese Maxey, tyrese Maxey and Paul George. They already have, on paper, a great team on there. There's one more person Paul George, embiid, tyrese Maxey, jared McCain and McCain, the guy they drafted in the top ten last year.
Speaker 1:He's like that and he's very good.
Speaker 2:He would have been Rookie of the Year if he didn't get hurt. He would have been.
Speaker 1:He's like that.
Speaker 2:So you can't do it that way. How are these teams supposed to get their franchise players to go? Help them go, be that better team. Why are you putting the 76ers in there? Well, I'm saying the 76ers because they already have a lot of. Again, they stumbled into having a great pick, but they don't deserve this pick?
Speaker 1:Oh, they don't deserve it. I was about to say In tech.
Speaker 2:Neither do the freaking Do San Antonio. Really. They already have their franchise player. The Spurs are bad, though they're probably going to use that pick to go. Try to trade for Giannis. If they get Giannis, nobody will ever score on them.
Speaker 1:Okay, but again the Spurs makes more sense, the Spurs does.
Speaker 2:They were bad. They're still ascending.
Speaker 1:They're young and bad.
Speaker 2:They're still ascending, so that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yes, the 76ers had bad injuries. Right Jared McCain got hurt.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:Dallas doesn't deserve the pick either. The franchise does not. Y'all don't get to trade Luka and then get the pick. The fans deserve it the franchise does not.
Speaker 2:You do not get to be fucking idiots as a organization and then go get Cooper Flagg, one of the best domestic players we've had ever since Andy Davis, I think. Domestic players from the United States.
Speaker 1:Andy from the United States.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, he is, he is yes.
Speaker 1:Fine, that boy's from Georgia.
Speaker 2:But again, even he was unknown, he wasn't that. Nobody really thought. It was like a projection.
Speaker 1:He was the number one prospect in his class.
Speaker 2:No, he wasn't. He wasn't drafted. Number one.
Speaker 1:No, not in it.
Speaker 2:He was drafted three, yeah, but he wasn't like an automatic.
Speaker 1:So was Michael Jordan, my nigga. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2:Okay, fine, fine, fine.
Speaker 1:Fine, that boy was like that. He was in the same class as fucking Zion Wilson.
Speaker 2:Everybody was worried about whether he could start, did a jump shot or not.
Speaker 1:That was like what they were worried about it didn't help. Zion was in his draft class. You were breezed over, true? Yeah, no one cared after Zion.
Speaker 2:I guess Zion was a very huge prospect coming out domestically Real quick between those two.
Speaker 1:who was drafted second?
Speaker 2:No clue, no clue. No clue, and it was probably someone who was actually decent Probably, so that actually decent probably, so that that. So that's one thing right, and my other thing is that everybody could it have been. It may have been sure no, because she's already been given a big contract.
Speaker 1:So he's farther along than anthony abwards is, and he ever got a big contract. Okay, yeah, he does.
Speaker 2:He does have one sure it may have been so and this is my other thing is that some people will say that, hey, you should just run your organizations better, you should just be better, so you don't have to suck and get the number one overall pick to help change your franchise. And this is where my, my issue comes in. Okay, bad franchises are everywhere. Okay, okay, bad owners are everywhere. Just because they're billionaires doesn't mean they are good owners of a franchise. Okay, and that is in the NBA, that is in the NFL, that's in freaking NFL, that's baseball. Just because you're a millionaire doesn't mean you can run a sports team. Okay, and that's for good and for bad, whether they're stupid or whether they really don't care about winning and they just want to make money.
Speaker 1:We were wrong. By the way, I think I was the number one over pick.
Speaker 2:Was he number one 2020,? Yeah, I messed up on that His class was.
Speaker 2:So that's where I sit right, because this is where I want to draw this parallel. Okay, so you want your team just to be better, be a where I kind of I want to draw this parallel. Okay, so you want your team just to be better, be better run, but this is from a top-down type of situation. So if you have a bad owner, there's no way they're going to get a good GM and all that and have everything run perfectly. What is the thing that potentially makes a team make drastic changes if they from what they're currently at and this is where I kind of you have this specific uh experience as a bangles fan jace, your owner, uh, paul brown, right, paul brown, jim brown not jim brown paul brown.
Speaker 1:No, it's jim brown paul brown's dad okay.
Speaker 2:He is what known as a very cheap. He just wants to make his money and go home. He is not necessarily a big spender. He doesn't really care about signing huge free agents. He just wants to make as much money as possible and have the team be okay and maybe make the playoffs. Okay, they had to suck one year, so bad to get the number one overall pick. To get Joe Burrow okay, joe Burrow has been the catalyst to change everything. Joe Burrow is good enough to make you think you have real Super Bowl chances. That makes Mr Brown make decisions he wouldn't normally make. Keep some talent he probably should keep. Get all these couple wide receivers that you have, these stud guys. He's keeping them. He's paying them. He's done that before, but not to this level. He's kept one guy, not both.
Speaker 1:He's never had more than one.
Speaker 2:True, but they're starting to make some decisions they wouldn't normally make, because Joe Burrow's making them make that decision, especially in basketball, where one player can make such a huge difference on a franchise. The freaking Cavaliers sucked before LeBron James got there and they started. They had to get better because his greatness forced them to get better.
Speaker 1:Okay, I see what you're saying. It's the idea that a team can be bad once and never be bad again.
Speaker 2:It can change your world if you have a player that forces you to make better decisions. I agree.
Speaker 1:Because the Bengals were bad 2019, 2020, they got Joe Burrow, they got better, had a decently high pick and then got even better, and then we haven't been in the top five, sometimes even badly-ran organizations need to have that nugget that one chance to push them, make them make better decisions.
Speaker 2:I agree. And if they don't have that chance to go get that number one overall pick and get that player, then it's not going to change. You're not just going to tell them get better and they will do that, that's not how that works.
Speaker 1:No, I agree Like Cleveland was a great example. Cleveland has never been that bad again. They haven't.
Speaker 2:They've been top ten bad, but they've never been as soon as LeBron saying they suck for two years and then got Kyrie Irving, and then they were fine. And then they started doing little things better. And guess what? Lebron wanted to come back and it changed them all over again. It did, having that one player can change the way you do things.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing If LeBron wasn't from Ohio and played for Cleveland and loved Cleveland, would he have gone to Cleveland in a free agency? No, no, okay, but they were very good though, yeah, but they weren't.
Speaker 2:They were set up. They had Kyrie Irving, one of the best guards at the time.
Speaker 1:Yes, they had, kyrie.
Speaker 2:Irving, and they had a very big chip in What's-His-Face that ended up being traded with Golden's. Oh no, why am I freaking? His name name Plus. They were able to get Kevin Love to go there.
Speaker 1:Yes, but that's that's all they were telling Kevin Love. Hey, we're gonna get LeBron. Yes, so they don't get LeBron. They don't get Kevin Love. Yes. And who do they have? Somebody that went to Golden State.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's. It's the one guy. He was looked at as like the next LeBron and then he wasn't. Who was that? I think he ends up playing for it's not Anthony.
Speaker 3:Is it Anthony Bennett? No, he was the number one overall pick. That sucked Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 2:No, who was Cleveland?
Speaker 1:Andre Iguodala Number one overall picks.
Speaker 2:I just want to make sure I get his name. You asked me what his name is, gosh, how are you going to do that? To me? It was Andrew Wiggins. He was looked at as the next LeBron.
Speaker 1:Wiggins didn't play for fucking Cleveland.
Speaker 2:Yes, again, he never had a chance because LeBron came there and made him trade him. They traded him to go get Kevin Love. That's how they got. Kevin. Love.
Speaker 1:Andrew Wiggins is the number one overall pick. Yes.
Speaker 2:Stop why he was looked at as the next LeBron. Did they?
Speaker 1:just give him their first round pick. No, they gave him them first round pick.
Speaker 2:They had already drafted. Andrew Wiggins no they didn't.
Speaker 1:They gave them the first round pick.
Speaker 2:Andrew Wiggins was drafted by the Cavs. Andrew Wiggins 2014,. Round one, pick one Out of Kansas. They drafted him and then LeBron's like hey, I'll come there, but you have to trade Andrew Wiggins to go get Kevin Love. That's exactly what happened. But yeah, they drafted him pick one number one, pick overall. And then they drafted him pick one number one, pick it overall. And then they traded him away really quick. He never even played in the Cavs uniform because the broad showed up.
Speaker 1:We had no chance, so yeah.
Speaker 2:So that's so I just want to make. I just wanted to make that point because everybody is.
Speaker 1:So, my real quick. That's a lot of number one overall picks in a row.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they suck really bad, but they change. They change the way the picks worked like a little bit after that to where the top three had a 14%. It used to be like the worst team had like 20%. It was like 25%. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then they changed it to where every the bottom three have a 14% chance. But guess what? That gives the middle of the pack a lot better chance than they ever were going to have. But yes, they were getting all those picks when they had 25% chance to get the number one overall pick. And then after that it was after them and after Philadelphia had those years and years on a rail where they just kept losing, to go get number one, try to get the best picks possible, and got Embiid. And then they changed the way they did the percentages out and that's how we've been getting. That's where we're at today.
Speaker 2:So yeah, I just wanted to make that point overall and that's why I truly believe that if the NBA wants to have all these teams be just better overall, you have to let the teams have a chance to go get their best player. I just don't think giving a chance for a team like Dallas to go get another potential Hall of Famer. Cooper Flagg is very good. I don't know if he's one of the better college basketball players I've seen in a while real quick.
Speaker 1:He was 17 playing against the Olympic team and they said he was busting ass dude. I've seen the video. Yes, he was. He was up against Drew Holiday, the best players in the NBA.
Speaker 2:Drew.
Speaker 1:Holiday. They had just won the chip. He. I watched this motherfucker shake Drew Holiday, switch on the Anthonyony davis and drain a three. Yeah and walk away and then down court stood a ball from ad. Go down and drain him to the three.
Speaker 2:Right these are grown men. That boy was 17, yeah, and he was busting ass and, like he, he was not getting played off the court against grown men and he was smaller than dude. So so that's the thing you need to have these teams be able to have a chance for a guy like that to change their franchise. Whether they're good or badly ran, you have to give them that shot, and I just don't think they're ever going to do that with how they're doing it now. I think they should get rid of it altogether.
Speaker 2:Again, it sucks when you have to look at a team and say, going to do it anyway. The teams have already been tanking. People have been talking about Cooper Flagg for two years Like, oh, tank for Cooper Flagg. That's been happening and then those teams didn't have their opportunity to get their player. I don't know, it's a whole thing. This probably went a lot longer than it probably should have gone, but I just had to get that point out because it was something that everybody was talking about. I'm like this is stupid. It it's not.
Speaker 1:Everybody hates NBA drafts. Everybody thinks it's awful.
Speaker 2:No, there's some people that swear by it and then says, oh, this should be done in the NFL. I'm like nuh-uh. If that should get done in the NFL, I will riot, I will riot Like come on, dude, you're not going to change bad owners by just saying hey just be better.
Speaker 1:It's not going to work. You're going to wait for them to die or become the commanders and get sold.
Speaker 2:True, be so bad and have the owner be.
Speaker 1:And the next year. You were one of the best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 2:Have the owner be in scandal and be forced to sell his team.
Speaker 1:I hope Jim Brown dies.
Speaker 2:Is it Jim Brown? I thought it's a different name. It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1:Don't give a shit. I want you to die, genuinely I want you to die, but I hope to God none of your dickhead sons take over, because they both also suck. They don't like football. Neither of them help you run the Bengals, but your daughter does and she likes football and she has openly said I believe we should pay Trey Anderson. Very good for me.
Speaker 2:Okay. So what do you want to talk about first in the? We're going to switch to the nfl now. Do you want to talk about the schedules for the bangles and steelers? Or do you want to talk about the purdy purdy, we'll go purdy. First news the day um brock, purdy signed in, the 49ers agreed to a five-year 265 million dollar deal, and this is what. That includes 181 million dollars guaranteed um so and this is off he has like a one-year contract, so it's a five-year extension.
Speaker 1:So he's gonna be there for the next six years.
Speaker 2:He literally went from rags to riches yes, again, to a certain degree he deserves to get paid. I'm not saying he doesn't.
Speaker 2:Two million less a year but, 53 million dollars a year is insane and and we're gonna go through, we're gonna have this conversation whether not really knowing whether there's funny money on the back end that makes it look better than what it is, because again, that happens all the time. We're not going to talk about that. But 53 million for a guy like again, I've been me, I think me and you have been both maintaining that the Niners are closer to a rebuild than they are going to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:He's a $35 million guy.
Speaker 2:And if Brock Purdy is not going to be the—I've made this whole thing before. Would you rather have him or Baker?
Speaker 1:What Is that? Even a question.
Speaker 2:Baker's only getting paid $30 million. That's crazy. Exactly I'd rather have and again, I've not always been a Baker- fan. I'm a Baker fan, but I have turned into a Baker fan Ever since he went with the Bucks. It's been awesome for him and he's made a resurgence. I've seen the rounds because he's a dickhead.
Speaker 1:I'd send him to the Browns because he's a dickhead, true.
Speaker 2:And again the Browns suck, so again that's their own.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they beat my Bengals every year At least once Twice my nigga oh yeah.
Speaker 2:My first time seeing us beat the NFL at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1:Who's number one?
Speaker 2:Let me look for you QB salaries. It's probably Mahomes, it's not.
Speaker 1:Mahomes they restructured, they didn't restructure.
Speaker 2:It's Dak. That's why I didn't remember Maybe he is, it's Dak's getting paid the most right now, mm-hmm Dax's highest QE salaries. We'll just say for 2025, right, sorry, the one I found was overall contracts. Nfl's biggest contract is 25. Dak at 60. Josh Allen at 55. Joe Burrow at 55. Trevor Lawrence at 55. Jordan Love at 55. Tua at 53. And then Jared Goff at 53. So, like this one hasn't been updated with Old boy Purdy, but yeah, purdy sits right above Above.
Speaker 1:Jared Goff. Are you taking Jared Goff to go up?
Speaker 2:I want to go to the mic there, sorry. I'm kind of tweaking right now.
Speaker 1:Are you taking Jared Goff, Jordan Love Love, Tua Tungavello Govlemore, Trevor Lawrence Govlemore, Joe Burrow or Josh Allen? Are you going to take Brock Purdy over any of those guys? All right, so why is Brock Purdy making the same as some of them and $2 million less than two of them?
Speaker 2:Yeah, some of them and $2 million less than two of them. Yeah, you're telling me.
Speaker 1:Brock Purdy's worth $2 million less a year than Joe Burrow and Josh Allen, and that he's worth equal money to Tua I actually think he might be better than Tua. At their best. No injury issues. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:No injury issues Can run a little better, but their throwing, throwing, I think they have the same weakness. Don't have strong arms in the cold. It can be a little bit sketchy so I think two is a way overpaid too. I wouldn't pay two of the money I agree.
Speaker 1:I just see a turn, but I I would take jared golf over him in a minute I would take you in a second. A lot of people jared golf might be a top 10 quarterback currently I think jared golf is, I think he's not. He may not have the crazy upside but I wouldn't pay Trevor Lawrence $53 million a year either.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't either. He hasn't done enough.
Speaker 1:He hasn't.
Speaker 2:But again, I would take Justin Herbert, and I think Trevor Lawrence has done more than Justin Herbert in a uniform. In the NFL. Technically, Trevor Lawrence has done more. He has one more playoff win.
Speaker 1:I agree. Right now I don't know.
Speaker 2:I would still take Herbert.
Speaker 1:I want to say Jerry Herbo's still top five but, bro, you gotta show me something.
Speaker 2:It's sketchy after last year when he had that very bad playoff game he threw like five picks. Very bad. He has something to prove, but I would still take Herbert over a lot of those guys ahead of him. But like we're talking, lamar only hit 52. We keep going down. Jalen Hurts is 51.
Speaker 1:That's fair.
Speaker 2:It's fair for them. But is Purdy better than them?
Speaker 1:Purdy's been to a Super Bowl. Lamar will sniff one of those.
Speaker 2:But was it because of Purdy, I think they would have gotten there with a lot of guys other than Purdy.
Speaker 1:Lamar hasn't gotten there, but the Ravens haven't gotten there because of Lamar. Yeah, go ahead and let that sit. That, yes, but have the.
Speaker 2:Ravens Put together anywhere Close to as good of a team as what the Niners Were able to yes, my nigga they were. I don't think so.
Speaker 1:They were. They had beat that year. Guess who beat the fuck Out of the Niners, the Ravens. Yes, but they kicked the shit Out of the Niners, kicked the shit Out of the Niners when the Niners made the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:They had a top two defensive end in Nick Bosa. They had a top two tight end. They had a top two running back Actually top one because he was the number one running back that year they had a Debo. Samuel was at his best. He was a top five, top ten receiver. Yeah. They had the number one offensive tackle in the NFL.
Speaker 1:The Ravens had a fifth ranked defense. I think they were a third ranked offense in the NFL. The Ravens had a 5th ranked defense and I think they were like a 3rd ranked offense and they lost solely because they were stupid as fuck. Back to back years You're telling me they weren't the best team in the AFC 2 years in a row. Because they were, they were.
Speaker 2:They were better than everybody else by far, but they had a very bad not being able to get wide receivers and up until last year they bad not being able to get wide receivers and up until last year they weren't really able to have running backs. They really believed in.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool. So what happened last year?
Speaker 2:Oh, last year was a totally separate animal. They had one of the top running backs in the NFL.
Speaker 1:Also still the best team. They were the best team in the AFC and they still couldn't beat the Chiefs, despite ever being like, yeah, they should easily stop them. Again, yes, after stopping them that year, stopping the Niners that year.
Speaker 2:Can I ask a question though? Go ahead, yeah. Who would the Niners have to go through? Because I think the Niners, when they were out in like the before last year, the Niners were pretty much by themselves. It was them and the Eagles, and then everybody else was ass.
Speaker 1:The Lions.
Speaker 2:Still ascending. I still think the Lions were still having their issues. Talent-wise, the Lions are up there, but I just don't think you can really guarantee for sure they were like I disagree, but all right. The Niners were much better than everybody else in the NFC. It was just what it was. Yeah, and the Ravens were better than everybody else in the AFC. The Ravens botched their own chances yeah, but the Ravens boxed their own chances yeah, but the Ravens still had to deal with the Chiefs. They still had to deal with the Bills.
Speaker 1:They still had to deal with you. We were in the playoffs two years ago.
Speaker 2:True, but I also think there's other teams you have to deal with in the AFC. There's a lot more good AFC teams than NFC teams.
Speaker 1:Okay, not over the last two years.
Speaker 2:Over the last two years, the NFC has made a thing, but the Niners haven't made the Super Bowl in two years.
Speaker 1:Now there's four good teams in the AFC and the rest of you suck. The rest of you aren't making it out of the first round. That's just what it is the Bills, the Chiefs, the.
Speaker 2:Ravens, and number four is kind of a rotational door, because the Bengals can't figure out what the fuck they're doing. No, I agree.
Speaker 1:In the last three years all of those teams have made it out of the first round.
Speaker 2:Those are great teams. I'm saying there are a lot more good teams than AFC. Those are great teams.
Speaker 1:The year the Ravens went to the AFC championship, they lost in the second round. Yeah, they lost to an underpowered Chiefs team.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Oh, and then last year they lost to an even more underpowered Chiefs team. Mm-hmm. Despite being the best team in the A's.
Speaker 2:But again the Chiefs built themselves into having one of the best defense of the NFL those years, again all those things being?
Speaker 1:What about you? They lost to the Bengals.
Speaker 2:Everything always comes back to the Bengals.
Speaker 1:By the defense. The defense won the game. The defense won the game.
Speaker 2:Yes, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, logan Wilson knocked the ball out at the goal line and then Sam Hubbard returned the ball for 98 yards.
Speaker 2:Yes, I do remember that.
Speaker 1:You have two of the fastest players in the NFL and neither of you caught him. No, lamar walked off the field for even I would take Lamar over Again.
Speaker 2:this all came because I don't think Purdy is necessarily all that great. I think Purdy is a top 15 guy. I think he really is.
Speaker 1:I think Lamar is not as good as Joe Flacco currently because one of them has a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying Right now in we were both on the same level with Purdy, and then I went.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I think I went a bridge too far, and then you became.
Speaker 1:I'm so sorry. I just think every other AFC quarterback that's not Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes is ass. You can't tell me otherwise. Guess who those two teams guess who the Bills and Ravens lose to. That's not the Chiefs.
Speaker 2:You can't blame them for not being the best of the best, Like we're talking.
Speaker 1:My nigga. The Bengals are concurrently not the best of the best, yeah, but their quarterback is so what's your guys' excuse for losing to a sub par defense? I know I'm talking bottom five in the league. All years we've beaten you guys Bottom five, my nigga, bottom five.
Speaker 2:You know what homes only get paid 45? They're getting a discount.
Speaker 1:For now.
Speaker 2:It's cheating yeah for now Again, it's the same thing Brady always did. He would always take a lot less money, and then we would build teams around him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and Mahomes was probably starting to do a point like hey, we aren't building a team.
Speaker 2:He makes so much money off the field, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You know what's funny. Joe Burrow gets paid that much and still makes a shit ton of money off of him Again he has to ask for every dime because he can't trust the Bengals to do what they have to do in the back end.
Speaker 1:No, that's why he took a five-year deal. Exactly, he didn't want to take a tank because he didn't trust the Bengals.
Speaker 2:So, that being the case, and then he had to kind of strong-arm them, they haven't signed Jamar Chase.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did, did they? They signed both of them. Why am I tweaking about that?
Speaker 2:Both their contracts came out literally the same day.
Speaker 1:I'm so used to the Bengals not doing things that I just feel like you don't know. You said that earlier.
Speaker 2:I'm certainly like what is he talking about?
Speaker 1:Of course they paid him. I'm so used to everybody being unpaid that this is a new feeling.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it was. Just think that, whether we agree with how good or not Purdy is in comparison to the rest of the NFL, I think we could both agree that Purdy is not going to lift the team up by himself to go do more than they ever did, because if that was the case he would have done that last year when the Niners were pretty much bad and their defense started going off the rails. He was bad too. He wasn't a good thing going on with a terrible team. He was bad, along with everybody else on that team, and Sneaky.
Speaker 2:They gave the Niners a very easy schedule this year, this upcoming season. So they actually might their record might end up being better than what they actually are because of just how easy their schedule ended up being. But again, we'll get to that at a different point. When we do our, we'll do like whole episodes of just like having one pod be in the AFC and the other be in the NFC. So we will do that. So we'll do the over-unders for the schedules. But I just wanted to talk about the pretty thing, because it's a lot of money.
Speaker 1:I saw that I was on the drive-thru to go to Panda Express and I started tweaking the fuck out in the drive-thru. And then I pulled up to the window and I was like, yeah, I want this. This is a lot of money, dude, it's too much money.
Speaker 2:It's too much money. They just have so much in flux right now with that team and really their only mainstays now are him Nick. Why am I forgetting the tight end's name now, george? Why am I forgetting the tight end's name now, george Kittle.
Speaker 1:George Kittle.
Speaker 2:They signed him, so he'll be there for a while. Uh-huh, and Fred Warner, that's Fred Warner, but they'd have nobody else in that defense at all. Like their defense is.
Speaker 1:I know, but you only said three guys.
Speaker 2:Yes, sorry, that makes five, my bad, no, that makes four. I was thinking, no, it's five Tackled.
Speaker 1:He's still there, but he's 36. He's like 38 years old. It's six because of the receiver.
Speaker 2:Brandon Ayuk yeah, he's coming off an ACL. You don't know what he's going to be. Joe Burrow's come off one. Joe Burrow can just sit in the pocket and stand there he doesn't, though. A wide receiver has to run fast all the time.
Speaker 1:Joe Burrow doesn't do that. You saw it that nigga ran 19 yards.
Speaker 2:He does, but he doesn't have to do it all day 36.
Speaker 1:19 yards Steelers Week 17.
Speaker 2:A wide receiver coming off. An ACL is not necessarily the same as a quarterback.
Speaker 1:What are you going to say? Adrian Peterson did it twice.
Speaker 2:Adrian Peterson is a different animal. My boy, you know, Adrian Peterson has a brother in high school football right now. That's like a top 15 quarterback in all of high school football, your lineage. His dad was like nah, we can make another one. We already have one of the best running backs of all time. Let's try to make a quarterback too.
Speaker 1:Y'all think LeVar crazy.
Speaker 2:Watch this. I was looking at it the other day because there's a lot of like brothers or sons of former great players that are, like in high school football, ready to go, you, philip uh rivers son gunner yeah this motherfucker can sling a football yeah, um, with the most traditional quarterback motion I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is over the top. Other fun fact about philip.
Speaker 2:You know he has a son and a grandson that are within like six months of each other. His oldest kid is that old. Yeah. His oldest kid's, like in her 20s, and she had a son, so he was talking to somebody that was going to he's like my son's going to be throwing to my grandson, that's crazy Because they're going to be playing high school football at the same time.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, because they're going to be playing high school football at the same time.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. I'm so excited he's having.
Speaker 1:he's just banging them out, because doesn't he have what he's 11?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's well over 10.
Speaker 1:Real quick. They should like John Gruden's at his house.
Speaker 2:It was Gruden. That's who he's talking to.
Speaker 1:I know, but I was just sitting there looking this nigga's house. He has a 400 yard football field.
Speaker 2:Oh, he lives in Alabama. As part of his backyard. There's such thing as being rich. Rich like he is like a billionaire in Alabama with the money he has.
Speaker 2:There's nothing out there. Yeah, he can go be a high school football coach for practically free and like, oh, I'm good, I'm chilling, I'm vibing, but yes, he just keeps cranking out kids and just chilling out in alabama, I his poor wife. For what do you mean poor? I'm talking whether she's pushing them out or they keep cutting them out. How is she even together? They rich, they're rich, but like come on philip river's in there like make her better make her bionicle they're just putting them in test tubes at this point, dude I.
Speaker 1:They have to be. There's no way I walk cranking out I'm sorry, I don't understand how this 16 year old. It's six foot three, a solid 210, a fucking muscle. He towered john gruden and he's a little I forget. Phillip Rivers is like six foot five. Yeah he's a big guy. He's smaller than his dad but like yeah, he's 16.
Speaker 2:What are we?
Speaker 1:doing. I kid you not. I watched him throw a football 60 yards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he got Arch going. There's a lot of legacy. Heck, minka Fitzpatrick's brother is about to go play college football, oh yeah. So there's a lot of legacies, type of things. But all right, we'll get off of that and go into our schedules, why not? You want to start with the Bengals or the Steelers? You want to be more negative or positive?
Speaker 3:Because again, if it's going to be the Steelers, you'll talk.
Speaker 2:So much trash. Oh, bengals, real quick, we'll do Bengals because we'll talk about Hendrickson. No, I want to do Steelers.
Speaker 1:I've got some shit to talk. I've got some shit to get off my chest.
Speaker 2:Okay, we'll go with the Steelers schedule. Goodness gracious, steelers 2025. And are we doing this as if Rodgers is going to be there or not?
Speaker 1:No, we're doing this based on what you got on roster. Okay, mason Rudolph is your starting quarterback.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do it as if no, no, he's practically there, he's not signed?
Speaker 1:Is he signed?
Speaker 2:No, it's a handshake agreement. They already know what they're doing.
Speaker 1:Mason Rudolph is your starting quarterback until further notice, when we do all the other teams, and if you do have routers we can revisit. Until further notice so we Okay, fine, yeah, mason, rudolph is your starting quarterback which, honestly, he's not bad.
Speaker 2:He's one of the better backups in the NFL. He really is. He's the best backup in the NFL because he can. The best backup in the NFL. That's a hard one. I think you guys have one of the better backups in the NFL too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but we got a good two games out of him and then he is ass happy. We played a playoff game with Mason.
Speaker 2:Rudolph, and he wasn't the reason we lost. Okay, that's what I'm saying. The officials wanted to give Josh Allen every flag in the world.
Speaker 1:Fake slides and all Mason Rudolph when the. Steelers can have him stay within himself. I see a starting quarterback.
Speaker 2:Oh, and, by the way, everybody keeps talking about the Steelers not drafting a quarterback, but I'm like you know, they drafted Will Howard. Right Again, I get it. He's a six-round pick, not the biggest name in the world, even though he won the fucking national championship this past season.
Speaker 1:I don't mean shit, come on, I get it.
Speaker 2:But still they're acting as if they didn't draft one at all. We've seen the last pick in the NFL draft. Go and be a guy that gets paid a big contract.
Speaker 1:Will Howard has more talent than that guy If you look at a lot of the starting quarterbacks in the NFL draft. A lot of them are first-round picks. No, that is true. You have anomalies like Dak, who was a fifth-round pick, and that nigga's not a pick. Dak was a third-round pick. I don't fucking know. I don't care.
Speaker 2:Dak's not good. Dak's not that good, but he's a starter in the NFL.
Speaker 1:He's a starter. No one thinks he should be at this point but he's one of them, he's a top 15 quarterback in the NFL. I would start listing names, but we're busy because that's a fucking lie. There's 15 niggas better than him. Guaranteed, guaranteed, garantee. Oh my God, I'm starting to tweak. No way, cause if we go off last year's stats, this nigga's not that good.
Speaker 2:Well, he got hurt Middle of last season.
Speaker 1:Oh, what about the last season before that? Oh damn, he got hurt again that season?
Speaker 2:No, he didn't. Oh, the year before that he played the whole season and they beat Tom Brady. I think, right, no, or was that two seasons ago? That was two seasons ago.
Speaker 1:That was almost three. Oh yeah, they don't do shit. That was a minute. Yeah, they're ass.
Speaker 2:Dak is ass, he's ass, he's a perennial 4,000-yard passer that chokes in the playoffs Again. That's a lot more than most Guaranteed their first-round exit yeah for sure, or second round. When they beat Tom Brady in the first round, they went and lost to the Packers in the second round.
Speaker 1:They went and got bodied by a young and not ready Packers.
Speaker 2:Young Jordan Love they were 9-8.
Speaker 1:And they absolutely. They made him look stupid. Jordan Love had what? Four touchdowns, no interceptions.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like 400 yards. Yes, yes. Oh, wasn't uh digs he was, he was second for dpoi voting. Yeah, straight, body, bag, body. Oh, by the way, one of the funnier things of like, all the schedule announcements, the, the charters, the minecraft one, they, they were, they're gonna play the cowboys and they had a thing where, remember the whole thing with uh, micah parsons and dex, uh, whatever, lawrence that they were not dexter, it's, it's a different lawrence.
Speaker 2:They were like fighting when, when Lawrence went to a different team and he's like they'll never win a Super Bowl, and they had that back and forth over social media. Demarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Demarcus Lawrence went and he said they'll never win a Super Bowl in an interview. That's not even the right name.
Speaker 1:You called that nigga Dexter.
Speaker 2:No, I said not Dexter. I know, but I couldn't think of the name. I got the last name Gosh. Let me tell a story. They were having that whole fight. They were doing in the schedule announcement, they were doing the back and forth as Minecraft characters. And then last thing was Torch Pickens enters the chat. The funniest thing. Every single thing is so true they're going to crash out together.
Speaker 1:Him and michael parsons are gonna crash out. It's gonna be such a. It's gonna be such a problem? I don't think so either, but he's gonna get paid by.
Speaker 2:But his past rush win ratio, his past rush win rate, his past rush win rate, he's so quick off the ball. Okay, um, steelers, we'll start with week one. I'll just say win or loss, and then you'll just tell me how wrong I am, for some reason On God. Past preseason Okay, week one at the Jets, we win that game. They're starting with Justin Fields. We've seen him in practice.
Speaker 1:I hope to God. He dicks y'all down and is like y'all niggas are retarded.
Speaker 2:I've seen some practice film of him throwing Dude, he is comfortable, his passing, his throwing motion is crisp. Hey, real quick. It makes me scared. I'm not going to lie to you, I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 1:I see the parallels from when he was at OSU. I was like he's about to smack.
Speaker 2:Him and Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1:They are about to smoke some teams and no one is prepared.
Speaker 2:I really hope, because you guys are in New York.
Speaker 1:I hope to God, because this was the stupidest decision I've ever seen the Steelers make in my life.
Speaker 2:They wanted to bring him back. He just got more. He got like 10 more million guaranteed. Exactly Again, good decision by him. Good decision by him.
Speaker 1:The fact you had Russell Wilson and everybody was like, yeah, this is fucking dumb.
Speaker 2:Put Justin Fields back in. He was winning games. I was saying that all year. Last year he was winning games.
Speaker 1:I was in the stadium with these motherfuckers and they're all saying to me we are halfway through the third quarter and they're chanting Justin Fields, yeah. And I'm sitting here thinking I'm like they must do this a lot because this is coordinated.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they don't fuck with that motherfucker. They're like if he's not going to throw the football at least.
Speaker 1:He was like they haven't thrown the football in nine plays. And I was sitting there I was like they haven't. They threw it up once and it was to pick it to the sideline and that was like the last time they really threw it. Yeah, it was. It was Check down, check down, frymuth, frymuth, frymuth, frymuth.
Speaker 2:Had an awesome game. It echoed in the stadium. Oh my God, muth is awesome. But yeah, jets At Jets. I think we beat them week one.
Speaker 1:Our defense will be healthy. Tj Watt will go crazy. I want to fault you but I can't. I agree.
Speaker 2:That's one you want to write. You want to do. I can't write enough. Of course, there's a lot of pages that are filled up, and now I'm gonna have to get a new notebook at some point but they're not.
Speaker 1:It's not every page, and that's pissing me off.
Speaker 2:Well, because I want to switch to a new page. I have switched a new page. When we do use front and back I do for the most part, but no you don't?
Speaker 2:I just flipped through it, you lying bastard when it's a new podcast, I like to have a new page. Bro, what do you want me to do? But yeah, at new york jets, I think it's a win. I, yes, I am scared Justin Fields, him and Garrett Wilson together are going to destroy everybody, but I just think that we have the corners that should be able to hear. Handle Garrett Wilson, because Garrett Wilson's not a burner, he is a athletic freak, but he's not like a straight line.
Speaker 1:What corners we've seen him in college? Shake Joey? No, joey Porter wasn't there yet. Brooke, what corners do you have to cover him?
Speaker 2:I think Joey Porter can do it. Garrett Wilson's going to get his. I just think he's not going to go off for 400 yards, joey Porter can't cover Tee Higgins, and Tee Higgins isn't as good as Garrett Wilson. True, but I think Tee Higgins— 105 yards, three touchdowns.
Speaker 1:Tee Higgins is 105 yards, three touchdowns. And Garrett. Wilson. I love Tee Higgins to death. Garrett Wilson's that nigga Don't fucking fault him In this. Those 1,000-yard seasons are bullshit. That is a 1,500-yard man right there.
Speaker 2:No, he's awesome. You know how much I love Garrett Wilson. Joey Porter is going to have to be named Garrett Wilson Jr.
Speaker 1:after this fucking game, don't play with him.
Speaker 2:I just think our defensive line will be able to get after the Jets offensive line, which still isn't good. Okay. So I just think we'll be able to do enough. That's it. I think we can win.
Speaker 1:You can do enough. Garrett Wilson's left 300 yards.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he's still going to get his.
Speaker 1:Okay, so don't say Joey Porter can cover this, joey Porter can't do that.
Speaker 2:I just said hold his own to where they want they still have Brees Hall, though that's another scary player. He is like that. But we did get Derek Harmon, who is very good as a defensive lineman.
Speaker 1:Dude, you guys have enough people that can track fucking Peyton Wilson Every play he had on a running play. If he's in on a running play I can accept the running backs getting nothing. Yeah, he tracks running backs down like no other he still has coverage issues.
Speaker 2:Him and Patrick Queen, I think are a very good linebacking duo.
Speaker 1:I told you when they drafted him, I was like the Steelers need to put him in immediately. And the Steelers put him in immediately.
Speaker 2:Let him run.
Speaker 1:He faulted Tight ends were getting what they got on him.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, but any running back. But do you remember that great play he made by the end of this? I think it was in the Bengals game. Right, he ended up getting the pick.
Speaker 1:It was the tip.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's crazy, but he's where he's supposed to be. He's athletic.
Speaker 2:God.
Speaker 1:I wish the Bengals drafted him, I wanted him so bad?
Speaker 2:Very good pick. Third round pick, dude. Yeah, third round pick.
Speaker 1:Everybody coming at us like this dude's elite.
Speaker 2:Oh, he doesn All right. Week two Seattle. I think we beat Seattle. Seattle doesn't have anything and it's a DK Metcalf revenge game. You don't have to write the whole game, you can just do Tick. I think we beat Seattle DK Metcalf revenge game.
Speaker 1:Their defense is pretty okay. They have a good secondary. Sam D pretty okay. They have a good secondary.
Speaker 2:Sam Darnold. They sometimes have a good secondary. Sam Darnold doesn't like interior pressure and we will have interior pressure all day on them.
Speaker 1:I agree, I think they have poor safety help. I think they have good DBs but no safeties and no linebackers.
Speaker 2:Oh, they do have the one guy from South Carolina, but it'll be very early in the season. He's still learning the physical freak from South Carolina.
Speaker 1:Oh, yes, yes, yes, that's easy. I think he'll be good.
Speaker 2:It'll take him a minute to kind of get acclimated.
Speaker 1:I don't think you will get a lot of over the top.
Speaker 2:Probably not, but again I think this will be a.
Speaker 1:We're going to watch Quenchon Judkins is that who you got? Trevion Henderson.
Speaker 2:No, the running back. Oh, we got the guy from Iowa. You didn't get one of the Ohio State guys.
Speaker 1:No, my bad the.
Speaker 2:Browns got Judkins and the Patriots got Travion.
Speaker 1:We're going to watch a lot of running.
Speaker 2:Oh no, johnson, caleb Johnson is the running back we picked up from.
Speaker 1:Iowa. He is very good. Sorry, we're going to watch a lot of running in this game because they do not have a good D-.
Speaker 2:Somebody made this perfect thing Caleb Johnson. He reminds me of Najee, but somebody said that Caleb Johnson runs like Najee, but Najee runs like he has pants on, like jeans, and Caleb does not, which is how he does run fast.
Speaker 1:I'm like you know what that kind of makes sense he has jeans on.
Speaker 2:He runs like he has jeans on.
Speaker 1:It takes one second to warm up and get used to it, it's so true.
Speaker 2:So true, but yeah, I think we beat Seattle week two. I agree.
Speaker 1:Week three I had something to say.
Speaker 2:Jameer Gibbs reminds me of Le'Veon Bell. He's very shifty.
Speaker 1:He's not the patient runner that Le'Veon was. No one's a patient runner like that Le'Veon was. I watched this motherfucker wait behind a line as he's getting legit. I see him go.
Speaker 2:He's like a boxer finding his opening and then he just pops out the back end 2014,.
Speaker 1:I remember this motherfucker legit, stops behind Pouncey his center and goes like this. It was the most unique. I've never seen it again, I, kind of think.
Speaker 2:it's very hard to do, I think, because Pouncey had to be the center that was having the whole offensive line do its thing, it was a dance.
Speaker 1:It was a little like a ballet. I've seen so many games where he has stopped behind Pouncey to find a hole. They would blitz the fuck out of him and he is just sitting Like there's no worry in the world you wait all day and then find a hole and then pick one.
Speaker 2:It was a very unique running style.
Speaker 1:I have never seen it.
Speaker 2:That is one of the biggest travesties that when we had the three Bs Big Ben, antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell that we did not win a championship.
Speaker 1:That was our biggest problem. It didn't help. Le'veon left for money.
Speaker 2:True. If he would have said it would have been much better, because he wasn't injury prone but we had four or five years worth of playing with Le'Veon Bell and Antonio Brown at his best.
Speaker 1:What did they call you guys?
Speaker 2:The three B's.
Speaker 1:No, your defense was called the killer B's.
Speaker 2:No, those were the three B's, the killer B's.
Speaker 1:Is that what it is?
Speaker 2:Yeah, Fuck, yeah, they're the killer bees, but again, our defense was trash then. Imagine if we had the defense we had now and the offense we had then we could have won a Super Bowl. But you know, it's not how that works. But yes, I think we win game two. Game three New England Patriots. Ooh. At New England. I think if this game was later on in the season.
Speaker 1:I think we would have a your ass.
Speaker 2:They still have a rookie offensive tackle that will have to deal with TJ Watt and Alex Highsmith and all the other guys we have. I think okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Damn, this is a good fucking game.
Speaker 2:The Patriots will be better late than they are, early for sure, but their defense is still bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1:They're still trying to figure out their defense at this point in the season. I think, dude, I think you catch them in week seven and it's a different fucking game.
Speaker 2:I agree. I do this is a win. Drake May will be a lot better. I really do think Drake.
Speaker 1:May will have a win. This is a win. This is another game. You're not getting much over the top. Christian Gonzalez is going to lock the fuck out of DK Metcalf. Yeah. No one can say Chris Gonzalez is very, very good.
Speaker 2:No one talked about it.
Speaker 1:He held Jamar Chase to nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's awesome, straight up nothing. That was one guy I wish the Steelers would have drafted, because we traded back with the Patriots and let the Patriots get him. We should have taken him.
Speaker 1:That would have been so awesome, I agree.
Speaker 3:I've seen many things in my life If we had him and Joey Porter Jr as our cornerbacks, we would destroy everybody.
Speaker 1:Dude Jamar Chase was not stopped by anybody last year, week one against Chris Gonzalez, where he ended up with two receptions. Yeah, two yards.
Speaker 2:He is a mano y mano. Give me that guy, I will take him away.
Speaker 1:He is one of the only corners in the league. He is a man to man. Fuck a safety. Yeah, I don't need him. Yeah, but this is a win. Yeah, I'll give you that.
Speaker 2:Week four. This game is in Ireland, playing Minnesota, the Minnesota Vikings. I think we win that game too, unfortunately.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because the more games we win early and we'll think that, oh, we have a chance to really do something, and then it'll be over by the end of the season they're running a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 1:I don't think a rookie like Jason McCarthy ain't that good Even if he is good.
Speaker 2:I don't think he'll be good in week four. He's not. I don't think he'll be good in week four. He's not.
Speaker 1:I don't think so either. He'll look good.
Speaker 2:Best case scenario. I don't think even at his. He won't look his best in week four. I don't know.
Speaker 1:He's Purdy. He's going to look. He's Brock Purdy. He has a great offense around him.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Great running back, good O-line.
Speaker 2:Great receivers.
Speaker 1:He's going to look so good, y'all going to give him $58 million a year and everybody's going to be like why the fuck did you do that? Yeah, yeah, he's not that good.
Speaker 2:I think we win week four, four. Now Week five bye. Absolutely dog shit. It's going to suck. I hate having such an early bye. It's awful we beat the Browns. We're not sure what the Browns like quarterback situation is going to be.
Speaker 1:It's going to be, shador, stop playing.
Speaker 2:By week six potentially. I'm not going to lie. I would love if it was Kenny Pickett. It'd be so fun Real quick.
Speaker 1:They're going to keep Shador's going to start. I think Gabriel's going to be the backup. No, Shador's going to start.
Speaker 2:Flacco will be the backup. I think Flacco will start the season. I don't. I think so.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry. I saw the Guardians the other night doing Shador's celebration on first base. You're lying, you're lying. The city of Cleveland wants Shador.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:Real quick. I feel bad for Dylan Gabriel. You have no shot. I feel bad for Dylan Gabriel. You have no shot. Yeah, You're stuck. What Deshaun Watson is?
Speaker 2:he's an all-pro quarterback and they're not going to cut him because he was a third-round pick.
Speaker 1:You're stuck here dude, and you will never start. Unfortunately, you will not start.
Speaker 2:Let's be honest. Dylan Gabriel should have been a fifth, sixth-round draft pick. I agree he should just be happy he got the money he got Again you are on a team, you have no shot to start on. Yeah, no chance.
Speaker 1:Shador's better than you. Watson is probably not better than you right now, but at one point he was that guy you don't throw out, watson. He has a ruptured Achilles, so it's over, joe Flacco you could probably beat him and I'm going to be honest, you have to be getting better than Kenny Pickett. I sure hope so. Real quick, would you think? There's two Super Bowl winners on that team, and one of them is Joe Flacco and the other one is Kenny Pickett Crazy.
Speaker 2:Insane Crazy. He has a ring, he has a ring. Next game. Week seven Bengals at the Bengals. This is probably the game we'll be at. So well, it's a loss. Obviously, this is in Cincinnati. I always default to you.
Speaker 1:Win one, we win one you think you can split us after we come off, a bye Again.
Speaker 2:this is a game you guys have at home, so this should be the game you do win, Agreed, but again you think we split after we're coming off a bye.
Speaker 1:In week 11, you played how many games straight by then? Yeah it would have been one, two, three, four, five, six.
Speaker 2:We're coming off a bye. We have five games in a row.
Speaker 1:We are well-rested, I know. But again off playing the Bears.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:Smoke City. Brody Shut up. You can't Truly in most years I agree with you. We're probably going to split In this year, I don't know, gang.
Speaker 2:You know it's not a guarantee. Again, it's the fact we're coming off a bye.
Speaker 1:If we weren't, then yeah, I can see a split, but we're coming off a bye, coming your house after.
Speaker 2:Who do you play before us? Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:Who do you play before?
Speaker 2:us, the Browns.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, We'll continue on the schedule, okay.
Speaker 2:Next game Again, they're trying to get Olave.
Speaker 1:I hope they get Olave because it will change my outlook on my season. Stop fucking lying. You guys got to trade your first round pick for that.
Speaker 2:They're in cap health, they'll never be able to sign him.
Speaker 1:I know so they will.
Speaker 2:I think they'll trade him for a second round pick.
Speaker 1:Maybe I accepted his fifth year option on Madden and it sent me so much debt that I about I've been contemplating trading Chris Olave, but that nigga's so good we have 12 picks for next year's draft.
Speaker 2:Maybe we give him like a third, a fourth and a fifth. Call it a day. Next game Green Bay Packers. Ow, this is not in Green Bay, does not fucking matter. Okay, I think again. You're saying as if we don't have Rodgers. I do think he'll be a Rodgers game. Oh yeah, no Rodgers. You're saying as if I've been doing it, as if we're going to have Rodgers.
Speaker 1:No, no, that's not what we agreed to Real quick. If you don't have Rodgers, we're going to go back.
Speaker 2:No, we don't.
Speaker 1:We've got to go back? No, we don't. We got to go back. What game, rudolph, those two interceptions against Seattle?
Speaker 2:No, he doesn't Stop it. Seattle's not that good.
Speaker 1:Seattle has two good DBs who are both top 10 DBs.
Speaker 2:How many interceptions will Sam Darnold throw?
Speaker 1:Doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:None, your DBs are ass. Who is Sam Darnold throwing to on that team other than JSN? Who the fuck?
Speaker 1:else does he need to throw to? Y'all need to put three niggas on that guy, three motherfuckers on him. Because, let's be honest, if Joey Porter can't guard Garrett Wilson, joey Porter for sure can't guard JSN. We know that for a fact, that nigga can't guard JSN. If we're gonna be, honest.
Speaker 2:JSN does not the same straight line speed as Jamar Chase. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:You look at me right now. Look me in the face. Joey Porter can guard JSN.
Speaker 2:You don't believe me. Jsn will be playing in the slot a lot, so Joey Porter would never guard him.
Speaker 1:Oh, who's your slot DB? Because pray for that man. He has a family and they have to watch this on TV Because Patrick Queen ain't fast enough, Peyton Wilson ain't fast enough. Peyton Wilson actually might be fast enough.
Speaker 2:He's a second year middle linebacker. He can't come up. Jsn is elite when it comes to short area quickness.
Speaker 1:Garrett Wilson may have 300. Jsn will have 8,000. You are fucked. Week two, bro. You are fucked.
Speaker 2:No ball.
Speaker 1:They better run the ball 48,000 times, gang I think Caleb Johnson will be very good this year.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's great.
Speaker 1:They better run the ball every single time, because if they throw, those DBs have played against. If you're making me, sick. Look at me. Those DBs have played against DK Metcalf. They know what he's going to do. Run real hard, fuck it straight. Dk know what he's going to do. Run real hard, fuck it straight. He don't DK.
Speaker 2:Metcalf don't run routes, don't ball up, I go get it. He does more than Pickens. He does more than Pickens, he just tries harder than.
Speaker 1:Pickens. They run the same routes Straight and up. That is all they do.
Speaker 2:If you're making me stick with Rudolph, my everything doesn't change. I think Green Bay has a loss, though.
Speaker 1:Dude, if y'all try to throw the ball against Seattle at all, you're fucked.
Speaker 2:You know that right, that's early enough in the season. My defense will still be 100%. We'll be fine.
Speaker 1:It won't stop. Jay is in.
Speaker 2:It will not stop him yeah, but if TJ is getting after old Sam Darnold, who doesn't like pressure, he's in the slot. The TJ is getting after old Sam Darnold, who doesn't like pressure, he's in the slot. The routes are quick. It doesn't matter that offensive line sucks. It's been bad for years, fuck it.
Speaker 1:They can hand the ball off to him. My nigga, if he touches the ball, the game is over. He's scoring If he touches that ball.
Speaker 2:you understand that right, it's a dub. Stop fighting this, come on.
Speaker 1:Jackson, smith and Jigba is probably this year going to be the third best receiver in the NFL. I will stick to that shit.
Speaker 2:I fucking believe that you don't know how much I love hearing you talk good about Ohio State receivers.
Speaker 1:Dude, they're good, I can't fault you. Jayden Reed is good. He's on the Packers. No one knows who their number one receiver really is, but last year it was him. Okay, no one knows who the fuck it is. They have seven receivers on roster.
Speaker 2:None of the receivers can figure it out either. They're like, oh, maybe it's me this week, and the next guy, oh, maybe it's me, they have seven receivers on the roster who are viable receivers.
Speaker 1:And they just took a first-round receiver and then a second-round, and then like a fifth-round, receiver, dude, no matter what it is.
Speaker 2:Old boy Brian Hartline does his thing. They do two things.
Speaker 1:They produce good defensive ends. Yeah, Always produce a decent center. The Bengals have drafted two of them. I'm just saying Great defensive players all around honestly and they will guarantee give you a wide receiver. They may not always be the greatest wide receiver, but they'll be a viable wide receiver.
Speaker 2:Ever since Brian Hartline came to the helm. It receiver, but they'll be a viable wide receiver.
Speaker 1:Ever since Brian Hartline came to the helm, it's been pretty much guaranteed they're not all going to be first-round pick-worthy.
Speaker 2:But they're viable receivers.
Speaker 1:No, not all of them have. You have more receivers that go to the NFL, my nigga. Just because the big names are there doesn't mean you don't have other guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but all the Brian Hartline guys have been number one.
Speaker 1:You've had other Brian Hartline guys that haven't been.
Speaker 2:All been first round picks bro, Goddamn that name's crazy. All of them. Who is this?
Speaker 1:nigga. Who is he? He's a fazant.
Speaker 2:Think about it Michael Thomas was before Brian Hartline came in. Michael Thomas was that boy. I think Brian Hartline was an assistant coach. He wasn't the actual wide receiver coach at that point. But after him I guess the only scary Terry wasn't a first-round pick, he was a second-round pick. But again, that wasn't even Brian Hartline's guy. Brian Hartline fit.
Speaker 1:Look, Ohio State receivers are good. They have that going for them, but they're all good. So look Garrett Wilson and Chris Olava said he's better than us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, and I'm going to be honest. He finally started looking like it when they started giving him the ball. So, you need to understand. It's still a win for the Steelers, but he's going to get his yeah but it's not. Stop trying to convince me. It's Steelers' win. Steelers' win when he jumps over Joey Porter and runs away. That's the one thing you won't do is jump over Joey Porter Jr. That's fine.
Speaker 1:Joey Porter has like four inches on that man.
Speaker 2:That's Whoa. Yeah, jsn is like maybe six feet, like he's a.
Speaker 1:He's a Look at that Jerk line.
Speaker 2:JSN, jsn, jsn. Pro floor reference. It was right there he's six foot, is he? Really yeah, he's only six foot.
Speaker 1:He's on the smaller side why don't nfl players look so big? I'm like I'm big yeah, he's six foot.
Speaker 2:He's on the smaller side, like he's like one of the smaller ones matter.
Speaker 1:Jerry porter is five yards behind him.
Speaker 2:Because jerry porter is slow like I said, he'll never actually guard one-on-one. He's in the slot. Then you should pray for your middle of the field dude. Okay, can we get back to schedule, bro? We're on week eight with the Packers where I said it's a loss. That's two losses in a row. Oh, you bet, I can't wait to get to the Bengals schedule. I can't wait, I'm going to fight, just like you. Yes, I can 4700 455 touchdowns. I'm going to fight like this.
Speaker 1:I'm going to make it hard.
Speaker 2:Week 9 Colts. Colts don't know who their quarterback is. That's a win, unfortunately. Again, I do this, even though I want to lose. I want to have a good draft pick to get a quarterback.
Speaker 1:Your schedule's hot garbage Dude. I'm not going to lie to you. It's not crazy hard the teams that aren't the AFC North teams are ass.
Speaker 2:The start of the year is pretty manageable. I know yes for sure. And again, we're not saying no. Rodgers Week, Week 10, Chargers at the Chargers will probably. The Chargers don't have a home crowd. The Steelers will take over that place. This is a lost stop for them, dude. Okay, we beat them last year with even worse quarterback. They were just figuring it out. Week 11, bengals I say we win that game, I say it's a loss. We split, we split.
Speaker 1:Okay, real quick. Honestly, do you believe it's a split? Yes, Coming off a bye.
Speaker 2:Again, it'll be a, or are you just?
Speaker 1:sticking to your morals of, hey, we split every game, because, let's be honest, dude, I don't believe it's a split this year. Truly, every year I say it's not going to be a split. We're going to beat you twice, yeah, cool.
Speaker 2:Truly, I don't believe it's going to be a split based on your team's going to be tired, maybe, but again, they just love coming into this game where they should be the underdog, and they come in to play. I agree, I'm not saying it won't be a hard-fought game.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying, if there's any time that the Bengals would win both, it'd be this year.
Speaker 2:Again, I wouldn't be surprised, I really wouldn't. I really wouldn't be surprised, I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1:It's going to be a hard-fought game. You guys could be fucking three and nine right now and it'd still be a hard-fought game. Yeah, but Bengals coming off a bye, that's rough.
Speaker 2:I'm saying win, but I really totally understand what you're saying and I understand what you're saying it's going to be a hard-fought game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think I can spell Bengals, we'll continue Week 12 at the Bears.
Speaker 2:I think we beat the Bears. Did you hear the thing about Caleb?
Speaker 1:I don't care, I don't care, I don't think he's good, his daddy was trying so hard for him not to go to the Bears. It's insane. It depends on how the Bears are looking. I think the Bears Microphone. I think that, sorry, I like.
Speaker 2:I know You're reading something. At the same time, I think the Bears could be good this year.
Speaker 1:I know they could be so if we revisit this later. Yeah, I know Can you revisit this, like just after preseason.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to.
Speaker 1:After preseason yeah.
Speaker 2:They have a new coach, because with Ben, Johnson, it may be very different compared to last year, I know, I know, and Caleb will make a jump, hopefully Again, just based off having good offensive coaching he will be better.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying he'll be a superstar. Based on what we saw last year, I will give the Steelers the win, but based on what we may see in preseason, this may be a straight loss.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Again by this point I hope, whether Rodgers comes or not, I hope Will Howard's in there and we'll figure it out if it's him or not. Week 13, Buffalo we lose, Guaranteed.
Speaker 1:This is where it gets bad Trash-ass nigga.
Speaker 2:Week 14, at Baltimore, we lose this might be a little bit of a reprieve Miami Dolphins coming to Pittsburgh in the middle of December. That's a win. Guaranteed Middle of December. They're screwed. Week 16 at Detroit we lose. Week 17 at Cleveland I think we lose. To who? They beat us with Jameis last year.
Speaker 1:That's famous Jameis baby Again this is in Cleveland.
Speaker 2:This is in December. We've done this the last three years. We've played good in the first half of the year. Second half, we start playing like ass, barely get into the playoffs, losing the first round. That's our season. That's how it's going to go With Aaron Rodgers or not, it's how it's going to go. And then that's week 17. Week 18, baltimore Blues again, but you split the Bengals. Yeah, what, nicky? What the fuck? The Ravens?
Speaker 1:have a defense. Oh wow, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:They can't beat the Bengals Ravens have a defense.
Speaker 1:I'm going to kick your ass. I'm tweaking, I'm tweaking.
Speaker 2:I'm tweaking. Where does that have us at? I haven't even been keeping count, I've just been saying win or loss. I'm going to guess nine and eight, maybe ten and seven, you know. It's crazy is that it may only be like a one or two game difference spell. Bengals B-E-N-G-A-L-S. You don't know how to spell your team's name it's B-E-N-G. A-l-s Bengals, it's b-e-n-g-a-l-s bengals, bengals. It's not that hard, my boy that looks right ah, no, a b-e-n-g-a-l-s I was spelling you spelled it with an a instead of an E. There's no A at all.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there is.
Speaker 1:I was not. Oh okay, you had no A at all.
Speaker 2:B-E-N-G-L-S. Oh okay, I gotcha, I gotcha.
Speaker 1:Bingles. I haven't spelled it like Bingles. It's okay, I can't spell.
Speaker 2:But yes, like I was about to say, even with Aaron Rodgers, that only changes by one or two games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, we say 9-8, but you'll really go 11-6.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know We'll go 11-6. We'll go 10-7, make the playoffs, have pick 20, not be able to get a quarterback next year.
Speaker 1:That's how it's going to work for me every year. Pick 20, pick another O-lineman.
Speaker 2:Guaranteed.
Speaker 1:Guaranteed.
Speaker 2:Go back to the cycle. My only hope is that we have more draft picks and we can trade up.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's my only hope. That's a decent hope, my only hope.
Speaker 1:In reality you'll be 10 and something, or they'll go get Chris Olave or one receivers like tying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, you guys like tying a lot, you tie often. Yeah, that's weird, sorry, and that was in. This will just say, well, before we get to the bangles. That was like the hard part about the. I thought you tied the browns last year no we lost the year before we lost the browns in overtime. That was in the snow globe game.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, sorry, seeing ties is weird, it is weird um, but this, that was the hard part about the Chargers schedule release because they did the whole thing with them either choosing future or win now, and like they have them on two different railroads in Minecraft and then the Steelers both the quarterbacks end up going into the lava with Aaron Rodgers looking over it. So it was a funny thing, but it was true. I'm like that's hurtful, but it's true, that's how that goes. But yeah, I just think even with Aaron Rodgers it only changes by one or two games. We'll win too much, make the playoffs, barely lose in the first round.
Speaker 2:That's our season, that's how it's been and I'm not sure if that's ever going to change. It probably won't. But you know what's funny? I had this one little spare thought that if I truly ever wanted to change one day twitch teams, just to like totally change my allegiance, do you know who my number, if you had, if you didn't know anything, who do you think would be my number one team I would go to if I had to, if I switched right now?
Speaker 2:at random, like you have one I, you know I would have a number one pick that would text you huh, texans, yeah, yeah again. I could be a steelers fan the rest of my life, but if I see cj win a couple street rules, I wouldn't care. I love him so much. Like again. You had joe burrow because of what he is in the pros. I had a cj because I've like, I've been attached to him.
Speaker 1:I've ine on my team Ever since he was a high schooler. I believed in him. Does that count? Peyton Thorne? No, you hated him, I know, I saw a video of him throwing on my Instagram, about to throw up.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he is on the Bengals now. Yeah, he's my second string quarterback.
Speaker 1:Yeah, third, no, he's the second string quarterback.
Speaker 2:No, you saw, the one guy is one of the best backups in the league. He was. No, he's still on your team, he is. Then he'd be third, third string, then no, jake browning's a third string jake browning's on a third street. He's not your third string quarterback, he's your second okay maybe it was a switch. Maybe it was like like Inside Out Day, where it's like no opposite day, no, Peyton Thorne.
Speaker 1:He's been working with the twos, but yeah, but so has no Brownie's been working with the threes. Oh, boy.
Speaker 2:Okay, I hope you're wrong Because real quick, trent Irwin's a three. I hope you're wrong because that doesn't make sense to me. Trent Irwin has a number.
Speaker 1:He played a lot of. Yoshi Voss is a two, yeah, but Trent Irwin played a lot too for the Bengals. Yoshi Voss is the two and then Burton is the other two, Trent Irwin's the three. We got a lot of receivers gang. All of them pretty decent. Yoshi Voss is pretty good. I really like Yoshi Voss.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's a great Red Zone player.
Speaker 2:He should have been your number two receiver, but apparently Joe Burrow can't get rid of his guys.
Speaker 1:Yoshi was pretty good, Real quick. He's a great third down guy, red zone threat, and then Trent Irwin's the same thing.
Speaker 2:Obviously his importance comes up, as he is an awesome number three. As a number two, he's probably not as good, but the fact that you get to keep him as a number three and then maybe. Trent Irwin never gets to see the field. I know.
Speaker 1:But him and Burton you can kind of just keep swapping them. Burton was kind of ass last year. He was hurt for the most of summer last year. I guess. But that, and he's the one that had the allegations- oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he, oh, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's back in practice, not a clean off season for that guy. Real quick At all they drafted Mixon and it was video proof.
Speaker 2:Just saying that is true, though.
Speaker 1:Real quick. That's so true. There was an edit of Mixon. The clapping part was the video proof and I was like that's crazy, Real quick. I had never seen that video. I was like we drafted him after that. Yeah, Second round he played a whole college football season.
Speaker 2:After that Dude Insane, he cleaned her block bro.
Speaker 1:It was over. You said her head went back Real quick. I saw the edit I was like no way, that's real.
Speaker 2:Looked the video up, watched it.
Speaker 1:It's so real. I was like, hey, lights out, yeah, crazy work. You played another football season and got drafted in the second round.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Insane, insane. All right, get to the Bengals here. We'll start Hendrickson first. I think he did. He did the whole press conference right next to the practice field. Pretty much talk about how hey, hey, they're not talking to me. I feel like I've done everything I can do and now he has to be loud. Now he has to do everything. Now he has to be a diva about it.
Speaker 1:He's done everything right and he's done it. So well spoken, kindly, he's tried what he was supposed to be doing. Yeah, that I understand what he did. I don be doing that. I understand what he did. I don't fault him for it. You have to do it with an organization like this.
Speaker 2:Yes, especially not willing to talk to you. If they were willing to come to the table and talk, then that's one thing.
Speaker 1:But they're not willing to talk to him. They're not willing to talk to you about a deal. They're not willing to trade you. I understand.
Speaker 2:But this is where my downside comes in, and I've I've been a hendrickson fan. I've all you mean you've had plenty of arguments about where he sits in the pantheon. Of all the, all the defensive ends going on right now even with him even with him leading the league in sacks last year. Okay, I'm not having that conversation right now why he's not too, why I'm not having that conversation right now? Why he's not too?
Speaker 2:Why? I think maybe to a certain extent he takes advantage of teams not treating him like they should. He doesn't look like a TJ Watt. He doesn't look like a Miles Garrett he Watt. He doesn't look like a Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1:He stays in one spot on the O-line. He does I can name two guys that don't do that. Ooh crazy, isn't it?
Speaker 2:No, TJ Watt doesn't move from right to left.
Speaker 1:No, Micah Parsons didn't.
Speaker 2:I don't have Micah Parsons that high.
Speaker 1:Again, he's better than me.
Speaker 2:I've said Henderson is a top five defenseman in the NFL.
Speaker 1:Motherfucker, his name Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have Miles Garrett going in the middle Again. I've never treated Miles Garrett as at high, actually, you know what, now that I'm thinking about? It yeah, okay so.
Speaker 1:I have Henderson. Where's Miles Garrett Henderson stays on the left side. He takes on the best. O-linemen. Tj Watt, don't do that shit. Trey Hendrickson stays on the left side. Trey Hendrickson is our only defensive end. Sam Hubbard was hurt last year, so he was doubled and triple teamed all last year too. So when does he get his respect? He gets the same treatment. Now I haven't.
Speaker 2:Your reasoning is bullshit. I haven't in the top five. Okay, who's in?
Speaker 1:that top five TJ? Okay, that's the one dude, nick. He was better than him last year and the year before that and the year before that. Crazy. What the fuck are you talking about? Okay, go ahead, keep going. What the fuck are?
Speaker 2:you talking about Okay, go ahead, keep going. I have Nick up there, hendrickson's up there, yeah, and then we get to the Garrett. Better than him.
Speaker 1:Here's another one, max Crosby. Max Crosby, yes, way better than him.
Speaker 2:Again. Max Crosby should not have gotten paid the money he got paid, okay, so time out. But you know he's holding that. Is that the?
Speaker 1:order, if I could just ask. In the order. Yeah, why is Nick Bosa number two? Give me a reasoning and I'll tell you why it's false. Is Nick Bosa as good as TJ Watt? Statistically no.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:And Nick Bosa's on arguably a better defense Okay. No. Tj Watt on arguably a better defense Okay.
Speaker 2:No, tj Watt's on a better defense.
Speaker 1:Oh you're right, they're both on good defenses, though right. Yeah, Okay. So what is Trey Hendrickson on?
Speaker 2:A terrible defense.
Speaker 1:Oh, he had the most sacks in the NFL last year.
Speaker 2:Yes, he did.
Speaker 1:He had also an interception and two fumble recoveries. One more fumble recovery than TJ Watt. My bad, he had one interception Because TJ had two. Yeah, tj Watt was the best defenseman last year, right.
Speaker 2:No, he wasn't. He had a down year last year. I can agree to that Because Trey Hendrickson had the most sacks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, so last year Trey Hendrickson was the best right, yeah, trey Hendrickson had 20 and a half, and TJ Watt tied the record For both sacks.
Speaker 1:And Trey Hendrickson Was one off of him and he had every other stat. Trey Hendrickson was better. He doesn't have as many sacks he had TJ Watt had Three interceptions how the fuck that nigga do that? He didn't have those. But he had more fumble Recoveries, more tackles. Every other step was at the sacks. But he had 20 and a half and the year before, if I just need a jog memory, he had 19 and Tito had 20. Go ahead, look it up, nigga what was this?
Speaker 2:what year was this?
Speaker 1:20 just look up their fucking stat lines.
Speaker 2:Bitch fuck the Bengals shit no, we're gonna get to their. Just look up their fucking stat lines bitch, fuck the Bengals' shit.
Speaker 1:No, we're going to get to their schedule. My nigga was DPOY last year and he was who got it last year they gave it to Garrett.
Speaker 2:Yeah, nope, no, no, nope, they did not. They gave it to Patrick Sertain.
Speaker 1:Yes, they did. Yes, Patrick's got no votes what the fuck.
Speaker 2:TJ and then compare to T-R-E-Y.
Speaker 1:Fuck niggas. Yes.
Speaker 2:Hendrickson compare. Oh, I should have done 2024. Now it's on me.
Speaker 1:God damn it. You fuck, fuck, ass give me a second god trui I. I know how to spell his name, you just spelled it wrong because I can't type, compare god let me see this shit you need to have the microphone near your mouth.
Speaker 2:They both played 17 games. Uh-huh, you had six more sacks, yes, 17.
Speaker 1:Solo tackles 33. Force fumbles two Fumble recovery none Cool oh what did TJ have?
Speaker 2:Oh, he had six two Cool 40 solo tackles seven more than Hendrickson yeah. He had six forced fumbles, yeah, four more than Hendrickson yeah. And then two fumble recovers, which is two more than.
Speaker 1:Hendrickson zero. That's crazy. Who else is on his defense? Oh that's crazy. That's crazy. There's 30 other niggas on his defense. Who's the second best player on the Bengals' defense? Mind you.
Speaker 2:Logan Wilson has been hurt since week nine of last year.
Speaker 1:Logan Wilson the second most sacked.
Speaker 2:I'm questioning whether it's your safety.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, real quick. Guess how many sacks the Bengals had last year.
Speaker 2:I don't know 23. 23.
Speaker 1:He was more than half of them. Logan Wilson had four. Guess how much that amounts to 21. Guess who had the other two sacks.
Speaker 2:Your slot corner right.
Speaker 1:Mike Hilton yeah, oh, okay, other two sacks your your your slot corner right.
Speaker 2:Mike hilton, yeah, oh, okay. So who's on the steelers defense?
Speaker 1:I get sex. Yeah, it's tj. It's cam hayward, nick herbig, her big, the rest of the niggas nick herbig, alex ismith. He didn't play both you had like, I think like 60 last year Y'all were, they had 23. He was more than half, he was more than 75% of the sacks.
Speaker 2:Real quick.
Speaker 1:His defense is worse. He is getting doubled and triple teamed every single snap. He has no defensive tackles.
Speaker 2:He doesn't have another end.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay, so he's on a worse defense. He gets more attention and has better stats. If not comparable stats, let's compare these niggas for every year.
Speaker 2:What's their ages?
Speaker 1:Trey Hendricks is older.
Speaker 2:Okay, fine, I think TJ Watt's 30 or 31. Or he's 29,. One of the two 30.
Speaker 1:They're right around the same age.
Speaker 2:Okay. So this is my question While you're going to look up all their stats to compare them, I have made the case that even for me, as much as I love TJ Watt that paying him what Crosby got paid $35 million a year might be too much at this stage of their career. And Crosby is like 20. He's like considerably younger. Do you? While you're looking this up, do you think that he's looking for top of the market money? Would you give Hendricks in that? What you think of him aside, what I think of him aside, would you give him that money?
Speaker 1:I don't think he wants that.
Speaker 2:No, because he said, because they asked him that interview. One of his quotes is that I'm not going to apologize for what the market for defensive ends are.
Speaker 1:Is that money too much for TJ Watt right now? Because you want to go down, you want to trade him? I just think we haven't. It's actually too much for TJ Watt, because that is more than enough for TJ Watt. He is a co-owner of the SAF record.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not saying TJ Watt is not worth that money.
Speaker 1:I'm saying where the Steelers are at right now. You're not going to pay him. Where the Bengals are at right now, he is everything.
Speaker 2:And that's where the difference is.
Speaker 1:I think the Bengals with Hendrickson, if they— you want to tank and get rid of TJ Watt because he makes your team too fucking good? Yeah, Because without TJ Watt you guys are hot ass. And Cam Hayward's on his last legs.
Speaker 2:And I. They're only giving them more defensive picks to that not to be the case.
Speaker 1:Yes, I feel bad saying that about Cam Hayward, because he was so good last year and it's hard to tell if he's done or not. I wish he will be he's so good. But, again TJ Watt without him on the field there is a sheer difference? Yeah, for sure. So he makes you too good.
Speaker 2:Trey Hendrickson is the only reason why we have wins, and that's where I think the difference is between where I'm at and where you're at is that with, even with, because of our quarterback situation, we won't. I don't think we'll ever have a Super Bowl winning ceiling right. I think the Bengals, if they had a better defense along with Trey Hendrickson, can go win a Super Bowl. That's where I I think the difference is is what makes him paying that guy that type of money worth it in a way that, even with TJ Watt paying him the money he's going to want to get paid because of our issues at quarterback, I don't think we're going to go win a Super Bowl, even with as great as.
Speaker 1:TJ Watt is yeah, type shit, which is why I think change is the way I think about the whole thing. Yeah, type shit. Regardless of what you say, trey Hendrickson has one more playoff game.
Speaker 2:Trey Hendrickson has one more playoff game. Yeah, I know, I'm aware, I'm aware, I'm aware.
Speaker 1:Here's their total sack totals. He was on, Trey Hendrickson was on the Saints for a long time. But let's just I'll just pull up the stats real quick, Because everybody needs to stop disrespecting the man.
Speaker 2:You just have them compare. Where is it at it?
Speaker 1:doesn't give everything, it gives their careers. Oh, he was on the Saints for four years. Okay, he was stuck behind a bunch of other niggas.
Speaker 2:Okay, I thought I saw it just now and I saw over 177.
Speaker 1:That's true, but again on a team with a bunch of other niggas.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you can't Again the same thing as saying about the Ohio State guys like, hey, you played a bunch of great players. I'm like, well, you're going to do that in the NFL too, other than if you're playing on the Bengals defense.
Speaker 1:He had 13 in 2020. First year on the Bengals, he had 13. Okay. That defense was slightly better. That year, 2021, is where he gets wicked 14. Okay, that's still Then 2022.
Speaker 2:2022 was when I think that was when the TJ Watt sack year 8?.
Speaker 1:That's not right. Sacks Only an 8 that's not right.
Speaker 2:Was it 23 then?
Speaker 1:You're telling me you only had 8 sacks that year.
Speaker 2:In 22? Probably.
Speaker 1:That's right 17 and a half.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I think that was the year that TJ Watt tied the sack record. I was 23, I think.
Speaker 1:Oh 21 to use your job.
Speaker 2:Okay, makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yes, 17 and a half again. Come on, dude, come on.
Speaker 2:Come on, I don't understand You're saying Nick Bosa's better.
Speaker 1:Where, when my nigga. His health issues have been.
Speaker 2:Trey Hendrickson has been a Iron man in a way that Nick Bosa hasn't, and I have to take that into account.
Speaker 1:The only year where he was on a top five defensive end was 2022. And in 2022, I didn't even watch the Bengals play. There was no hope. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:But in 2021, 2023, and 2024, it was Trey Hendrickson and then TJ Watt. It was TJrickson and then TJ Watt. It was TJ Watt and then Trey Hendrickson, one and two, and then last year it was Trey Hendrickson and still some of my fucking TJ Watt Down here in this nigga's still number two. What the fuck I will give you this. Tj Watt is crazy as fuck. 30 more sacks than the guy. I can't fault him on that. He's that good, but give my boys credit.
Speaker 2:No, he's good, he's a great okay fine, yeah, okay, fine, I can get by. I'm not supposed to be number three this is okay, okay, fine.
Speaker 1:Why the fuck do I have to fight for my best players to be the second best in their position? What the fuck all right.
Speaker 2:So this is my question would you give him the 35, the max crosrosby got we?
Speaker 1:have no defense.
Speaker 2:We have to.
Speaker 1:No defense. I don't understand. What do you mean?
Speaker 2:We have to Apparently. The Bengals don't think that they're like hey you're going to pay, they just don't have the money.
Speaker 1:They're broke. No, they do. They just don't want to pay. But again, if I'm the Bengals, I'm looking at these other niggas Like next year it's gonna be wicked. We're paying Joe Burrow Right now, just Joe Burrow Next year. We're fucked, fucked. Yeah, you are getting Jamar.
Speaker 1:Chase contract starts Right now. They're just paying T Higgins and Joe Burrow. Yeah, yeah, you're not. They're fucking quivering over there. They're like oh God. They don't make enough money as is. They can't even get money from the city to get a new fucking stadium. Yeah, okay, they have no options. No one. No one is betting on the nigga with four and a half sacks over three years to be good.
Speaker 1:No one is betting they drafted him to be that guy Real quick. He's not even playing and no one cares. No one has talked about it except the first time we saw him at practice. After that everybody was like Okay. Don't get it figured out. Every comment I see on this motherfucker being in a video. Pay this man, Pay him. Pay him. No one wants him not paid.
Speaker 2:Every Bengals fan wants him paid because you know why. He's been a good soldier. He's done everything right.
Speaker 1:I'd start. He's been a good soldier. I watched the defense. He's done everything right. Like if I start doing this shit like Madden, I just turn this thing off and look at my phone until the other team scored and I turn TV back on, because he is the only reason I watch the defense. If we don't pay him, I truly believe we are never getting past 9-8 again. Never. We are never getting past 9-8 ever again. No one on the defense is good enough. Jordan Battle's improving.
Speaker 2:Logan Wilson is also very good, but again, a safety just never has the positional value of a defensive end.
Speaker 1:Logan Wilson is also really good, but Logan Wilson is a true middle linebacker. I lead the defense, you can send me on a blitz I got the tight end. He does his job. Jordan Battle does his job. Dre Henriksen is the cornerstone of the defense and if we don't pay him?
Speaker 2:what are we doing? What are we?
Speaker 1:doing. I got you, you paid. Logan Wilson, you paid.
Speaker 2:Jordan Battle. I just think Max Crosby and Miles Garrett kind of messed everything up by going to get paid $35-$40 million a year, Again Max Crosby's.
Speaker 1:Like this team's ass, I want a new contract.
Speaker 2:He's holding them hostage. I don't know how they keep saying yes, he's done it four times in three years.
Speaker 1:You know why they keep saying yes. Because I got nothing else you are all we got.
Speaker 2:Well, they have other guys now who they got Geno. It's a lot better than what they've had. They do. They have Brock.
Speaker 1:Bowers, geno ain't even fully a positive, to be honest, with you.
Speaker 2:Geno is right there. I think I would take him over.
Speaker 1:Brock Purdy, I'd be watching the pre for my game.
Speaker 2:Geno or Brock Purdy. I'd take Geno.
Speaker 1:Okay, but then I'll be watching the pre game of my game and I'll see if I can come across the line for Geno. Six of 32. 40 yards, eight interceptions what the?
Speaker 2:fuck happened. He'll have those breakdown games, yeah.
Speaker 1:More often than he should. Yeah, no, that's true.
Speaker 2:Like out of—. But I also think it's because they had nothing else, and if he wasn't throwing the football, I just—.
Speaker 1:Again, he doesn't throw like oh yeah, that's an okay interception. No, he throws it straight to a nigga. Oh true, no, for sure. I'm talking like it's not even like a good interception.
Speaker 2:I just think if they had a balanced offense around him, it doesn't matter, it doesn't help.
Speaker 1:Kenny Walker was hurt last year, but again, even when Kenny Walker wasn't hurt, he still throws those interceptions.
Speaker 2:And here's what I'll say they are going to run the football like crazy because they have Ashton Genting, so I think you'll actually get a much better version of Geno on that team. Throwing to who? Brock Bowers.
Speaker 1:Nigga, that is a tight end. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. They have a year of tape now they're going to start hitting this nigga like he's fucking Calvin.
Speaker 2:Johnson Brock Bowers.
Speaker 1:Legit, we're going to have safeties trying to put that man down.
Speaker 2:Ashton Gentry, you can throw him a football out of the backfield. At least they have other weapons now Again their O-line's bad.
Speaker 1:They go out of a nausea in two years All of his good carries are behind him and real quick. All of his good carries are way behind him. He had like 1,000 carries in college. That's true. Let alone the 350 he had last year.
Speaker 2:Or maybe he's all lubed up and ready to go.
Speaker 1:Maybe he he's nice and ready for all the punishment possible he's never been injured, but that he has 1,187 carries in college Dude there's some pro running backs.
Speaker 2:They ran him into the ground it fucking worked. And again, that's what the Alabama did to Najee too. They ran him into the ground Over his four years there. They used him like crazy. That boy was elite though. Alright, you ready for the bang? We went on a huge tangent. Sorry, dude, no for sure again. If you don't fight for your guy, who will?
Speaker 1:so I don't never blame you in the dpoi crazy to me because tj watt goes out there and gets 19 sacks and he gets five. Six votes true. Trey hendrickson got none miles garrett got nine. What the fuck miles garrett at 13 sacks?
Speaker 2:yeah it, but his pass rush win rate, it's the name, it's the fucking name.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, TTY has a bigger name than Reinhardt.
Speaker 2:Oh, let's not forget the clip of Myles Garrett doing the basketball move when he's sitting there over the center. Who has no shot against him? Whoa.
Speaker 1:I'm not surprised. Oh, you're twice that nigga's size. What the fuck.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're much bigger, faster, stronger than that guy. No wonder you're doing basketball moves like before the snap I it's like the. It's the most insane thing I've ever seen give a fuck you.
Speaker 1:You move real quick.
Speaker 2:That's one thing me and you can agree on is our hate for miles garrett, because he's the most overrated they move you around the o-line, give you the best chance to get a sack.
Speaker 1:Yeah, every other person besides michael parsons.
Speaker 2:Fuck again it's not it's smart thing to do, but I just think that it has to count against you. It negates you, yeah, I just think it has to be a little bit of a negation.
Speaker 1:The same way, micah Parsons can't stop the run, miles Garrett can do that. Run at that man, run straight at him.
Speaker 2:Run at that man all day and he will get tired Real quick. Dnic get tired like that. Besides him, he gets gassed. Think about this All the defensive ends that have been great over the last 10 years or so. They're all 6'6", 6'2" and taller, Around 240, 250. That's all the great ones. They're all big boys. Micah Parsons just over 6 foot, Running at around 200 pounds. No wonder he's getting ran out all day. He's never going to have the frame to be able to last the way he needs to.
Speaker 1:Trey Henry's what I think Trey Henry's 6'2", 6'3" 6'4" 270. Damn that nigga's big.
Speaker 2:I think TJ Ross went around 250. Miles Garrett's in the 250 range too. Like these are monsters.
Speaker 1:And then you know michael parsons run around like a little rc car let me get after your quarterback, you're talking you got a guy my size trying to go up against six foot five alignments, yeah, and running backs who are as big as him.
Speaker 2:But hey off at the lineman, don't try to let him run around. You Just go attack the man and he'll get tired.
Speaker 3:Roll his ass over, he'll get you a couple times he will.
Speaker 2:He's very fast, but you're going to tire him out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, eventually.
Speaker 2:He's a little kid on the basketball court.
Speaker 1:He was a rookie last year. I think he was a Chargers rookie, Joe Alt. I think he played against Michael Parsons and there was one snap where they got off the ball and Joe Alt touched him before he got up. Yep, Real quick. Joe Alt's a big motherfucker, he's stout. You saw?
Speaker 2:it. Stout is the word.
Speaker 1:He was able to hold TJ Watt for a little bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then TJ Watt just— and he was able to hold.
Speaker 1:Trey Hendrickson for a little bit. Yeah, Because he was like I'm longer.
Speaker 2:Not to mention, they keep running the football, like that was their plan. It's like, hey, we're just going to keep running the football all day and they can't run it that left side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they go keep going that way. No, question I wish I had two good tackles. I wish I had a motherfucker.
Speaker 2:So good at left tackle.
Speaker 1:I draft another good left tackle for a bit.
Speaker 2:What the fuck.
Speaker 1:A bit they're going to keep Rashawn Slater.
Speaker 2:This is our chance this year, like we drafted Fatano and he didn't even play last year because he got hurt, so hopefully he'll be able to come in and take over the other tackle spot, mims, and then, finally, hopefully we'll have an answer, and then you guys have Mims and he was starting to play. At some point, yes, in his third year. But you still have Orlando Brown. He still has a couple more years. He only has one more year left.
Speaker 1:Oh, so next year, the year after this one, they're going to move him to left tackle? Yeah, probably, and he's going to get beat the fuck up on.
Speaker 2:Probably, and everyone's going to be like, oh he's guarding.
Speaker 1:No, he's good Just slow. Yeah, for sure. He's too big to be a guard.
Speaker 2:Way too big, he's way too talented to be a guard he is, it's just he's way too talented, but it's just, he just doesn't have the.
Speaker 1:I wish I could see clips of him in practice, because that's he's an alignment. We don't see that, yeah, but I want to know if he's, if he maybe dropped a little weight, got a little faster that'd be nice I'd be the hope. Yeah, because orlando brown isn't the biggest. He's only like six foot five, six or four. Yeah, he's a smaller tackle he's a little more yeah quick feet, yeah, quick feet, sorry no, it's fine.
Speaker 2:Oh no, these are regular conversations we like having on this podcast that makes it.
Speaker 1:The only other guy I can talk about sports with is a browns fan, and they're just having fun watching their quarter.
Speaker 2:Not to mention we get to little brother, them like, hey, this is fun. But come on this, when I talk to jake I respect him, I really do. And I know I disrespect him sometimes and I know I pissed him off at points last year to where he kind of bit my head off a couple times and I'm like oh, maybe I went too far.
Speaker 1:Maybe I went too far, dude. I work with five Browns fans. I don't know if you've met me, joe. I'm going to ask yeah, we beat the Browns and I walk around like we won the football Again.
Speaker 2:I'm the nicest person. I think I'm a really nice guy when it comes to my sports. I know what I'm talking about and I will be in my bag and I'll be willing to say some stuff, we put the Browns in the dirt, yeah, because we beat them twice last year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no, I hope I'm nicer to them than I am the Reds fans. Yeah, all right, Because everybody's talking about, like Ellie's going to be the first billion-dollar man and I work with a Reds fan, that's if they pay them. Man, I was like yeah he'll be a billion-dollar man for the Yankees. I was like, yeah, in four years he'll be a billion-dollar man for the Yankees because you guys won't pay him I, but first year cycle, I'll take him right now.
Speaker 1:Have you seen him in playing this year? That boy is crazy Dude. His defense sucks ass. Yeah, he's trash. And he plays short right, they tried, he's big enough. He's more talented. What?
Speaker 2:do they?
Speaker 1:have him playing at normally. Then Second and third. They had him at second for like 10 games and suddenly everybody was like, hey, second base is an offensive position, move his ass to third, because he can sling a baseball he can throw, he's just not consistent. What did I say? Yeah, he's like O'Neal de la Cruz, but less good at all of baseball. O'neal can't stay healthy. Yeah true, but he's great at all of baseball.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Ellie is one of the worst defensive players I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, but when they have—.
Speaker 2:They'll make the spectacular play every once in a while, but it makes you like ooh.
Speaker 1:Ooh, you just do 101 across the diamond. Yeah, my God. Oh, you threw a hard one across the diamond to the stands.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Sorry, bengals, I love this. Bengals week one You'll get your opportunity for the Browns early At Cleveland. Week one Win or loss, you'll win. This will be the. This schedule may open up for them to finally have a hot start, which they're allergic to.
Speaker 3:We said that shit last year bro Stop playing with me and I want to lose to the Patriots Do not do this right now.
Speaker 1:Slow start, we slow start.
Speaker 2:So you think you're going to lose?
Speaker 1:to the Browns. It's like a car with a turbo you got to let it heat up.
Speaker 2:Is that Cleveland? You're going to lose this one. Yes, no.
Speaker 1:Dude, I've only seen us beat the Browns Twice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you did it last year you blanked them 58-9. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Halloween night I get home, I take my Joker mask and my Joker makeup off. 58-9. Nick Chubb four touchdowns.
Speaker 2:Hey, nick Chubb's not there, no more, you don't have to fear Nick Chubb, but they got Quinn John though, dude man.
Speaker 1:I don't want to fuck with that nigga.
Speaker 2:Quinn John's a monster bro.
Speaker 1:Despite everything, the Browns still somehow have a decent O-line. What the fuck yeah? How do y'all do that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just don't know what. The one it's probably going to be Joe Flacco. If it's Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco could still sling that ball, bro, he can. But I would say win, but this is your choice Double URL, we probably would win. Okay, Fine, 1-0. Week two Jacksonville. I hope I really I will watch that game as a Bengals fan because I want to see Jamar Chase slice up Travis Hunter bro.
Speaker 1:I want to see it so bad. I was like, hey, I hope the Bengals play him. You're like I don't know if they do. No, they do week two. They are going to play him.
Speaker 2:I want him to get sliced up at corner Again. Travis is probably going to do a lot when he plays that wide receiver because they have Brian Robinson Jr on one side. He's going to be unstoppable. You guys have nobody that could stop that guy. I forgot that nigga was there. He's awesome. But the fact that Travis can go in there and be a number two wide receiver may be the best thing for him, because I just don't think he's a number one.
Speaker 1:So I think he's going to get his at wide receiver. We're going to prove he's on a number one DB Go ahead. If they try to play him at that. Fuck around and put him on T Higgins. I dare you Because real quick, he screwed. Joey Porter may not be the most athletic guy. Joey Porter can cover Travis Hunter. The best dude you covered last year was who.
Speaker 2:Welcome to some real talent yeah real boys, sorry, yeah, real boys so you guys win.
Speaker 1:I guess you guys win. I agree, week three at Minnesota Pack, yeah, straight packed JJ McCarthy, if JJ McCarthy finds something. I'm not sure It'll be a shootout just because, come on, justin Jefferson. Jj does TJ Hawkinson and Jordan Addison. I don't know who the running back is, but he's decent. Robinson and Jordan Addison. I don't know who the running back is, but he's decent. I think it's Packers.
Speaker 2:They drafted a running back. Oh, who cares? I?
Speaker 1:don't care, It'll be a shootout, but when it comes down to hey, you've got to elevate to the moment, you're not Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, true, week four at Denver. I think that's an L. Why Denver had a very good defense last year.
Speaker 1:We beat them at home and they only added to that.
Speaker 2:Beat them at home, but you were sweating bullets because that game was going back and forth.
Speaker 1:Wait, Evan McPherson missed. No, it didn't need to go back and forth. He was injured last year trying to kick. It didn't.
Speaker 2:But y'all were back and forth with the Broncos. Logan Wilson was also hurt.
Speaker 1:I know, give us our just dues. Hold on. Evan McPherson was injured. Try to kick. He was injured. Verify he was injured. You're trying to play through it.
Speaker 2:They actually have a cornerback that can handle one of your wide receivers. He didn't, though. He didn't.
Speaker 1:Hold on. You say that he didn't. They did not Judge Marr. Chase had three touchdowns. He had two touchdowns. Who the fuck's stopping him? Chase Brown had a touchdown. This nigga had a receiving touchdown. Legit. They go down there and score. Joe Marr goes like I got it, throws his shit on. What five plays Down the field, down the field, down the field, please. Down the field. Down the field, down the field, no ball, and this is what I'll say.
Speaker 2:Denver finally has a running back. They have Omari and Hampton.
Speaker 1:Still got to run the football. I don't give a fuck. Run the football. Shmon the football. You, not Joe Burrow. This a win. We beat them last year. All I have McPherson has to do is kick the ball straight. My nigga You're not injured.
Speaker 2:26 yards and you win. But they had a rookie quarterback and he was doing great in that game.
Speaker 1:That was probably his best game all season and he couldn't rise, like Joe Burrow couldn't Go ahead.
Speaker 2:He did, for the most part, double coverage down the field.
Speaker 1:Boom Shotgun Game should be over Minute left. Joe Burrow's like Fuck that Legit Gets back to the sideline, walk past Zach Taylor, give the ball to me and sits his ass down. Go ahead, rise to that moment again. You can't, you can't even beat the Chiefs. Bitch ass nigga.
Speaker 2:All they had to do was not get their field goal blocked and they would have won the game against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1:Crazy. Joe Bo didn't need a field goal. He slung that bitch. You know why? Cause you gotta rise to the moment.
Speaker 2:And no one else can do it. All right, win Denver, broncos, detroit. You guys lose that game. What. You guys lose to Detroit. Their defense is ass.
Speaker 1:Gibbs, my offense is better. Stop lying, go ahead. How many DBs do they have to stop us? Oh, who's on their D-line besides Aiden Hutchinson?
Speaker 2:They drafted somebody. They drafted a defensive end.
Speaker 1:Give me his fucking name.
Speaker 2:I forget the draft already. He spent so long At pick what 28?
Speaker 1:Give me this shitty nigga's name. I think he's a first-round pick. He is. It was a defensive tackle from Michigan.
Speaker 2:No, shitty nigga's name. I think he's a first round pick he is. It was a defensive tackle from Michigan. No, no, no, no. They took my boy. They took my boy. Jtt. No, jtt went to the Colts. Okay, you're not helping me. Then they took Ty Lee Williams who the fuck is that? Our defensive tackle? He was awesome. He's a guy that gets after the passer. So they did not get a defensive end in the first round, but he can get after the passer.
Speaker 1:Has he met Joe Burrow? Not yet, but he will. He never will. He will the ball already out. You know why? Because Brian Barrett's the fucking safety. I'm sorry You're putting us up against another team.
Speaker 2:I know but they'll be running the football down your throat the whole game, chase Brown can run the football.
Speaker 1:We have running backs. We drafted a running back. What do you mean? We have a 2X system, just like they do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but yeah, but their defensive line is better than yours. How?
Speaker 1:Who's on their line?
Speaker 2:They have Henderson, they have Tyleek Williams, they Hutchinson, hutchinson.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry how many sacks you have. Last year, oh, your leg was in two. He's coming back from an injury. Fuck nigga, that's fucked.
Speaker 2:You're coming back from an injury. That's fucked. You're a terrible person.
Speaker 1:He's coming back from an injury. You say this all the time. We don't know how good they're going to be. He's coming back from an injury. This. It looked like a limp penis. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of my face. He's not getting past Nobody.
Speaker 2:Okay. So you went from going saying they never have hot starts to where now you're saying they're about to be 5-0 to start the year. Pick one, pick one.
Speaker 1:You were 4-0 to start the year. Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but we don't have so many starts like you didn't.
Speaker 1:We're better than you, we're better.
Speaker 2:You just said yeah, so pick one. Are they a hot starting team or not? I said, oh, you're like, don't do it to me, joe, don't do it to me. They never have a hot start, they never have. And then now you have them five. Oh no, come on, pick one. So if they're not gonna have a hot start, they have to lose somewhere. Motherfucker, pick one, pick an l I'll start.
Speaker 1:You're such an asshole, pick an L. I'll start. That's a win, it's a win.
Speaker 2:You're such an asshole. Okay, hot start. It is 5-0. Week 6 at Green Bay.
Speaker 1:Fucking win.
Speaker 2:Before we started this podcast, you said 17-0. And I'm like there's no way he's going to really go in with that.
Speaker 1:This might actually go this way. We're better than the Packers. This one's an actual win. Come on, packers have no defense, okay.
Speaker 2:So you agree with the Packers? I don't believe in Jordan Love enough. If Jordan Love's consistent every week, I would have a bigger question. He's not, but he's not, he has. He is the most nonchalant like he plays. Like I said all last year, he plays like he's aaron rogers, but he's not aaron rogers in the way that, like he like passes and he tries to do some of the things.
Speaker 1:He's not as physically talented as aaron rogers so like his attitude reminds me of aiden Childs.
Speaker 2:It's not even his attitude. Well, he does. He kind of has like an even keel. He has an even keel of CJ Stroud, but he's not the assassin, cj is.
Speaker 1:It's when he throws interceptions. There's no analytical about it. He doesn't go sit down serious enough in a way. Right, they don't understand. It truly hurts the team.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because they just don't go sit down and look at a tablet. No one goes talk to them Like what the fuck are we doing? Same thing with Jordan Love Joe Burrow through six interceptions. He would look pissed.
Speaker 2:And they give him all the license, do they say, hey, you're going to throw picks, it's fine, and I'm like when CJ does that, he's killing himself on the sideline. He's apologizing to every player on the sideline. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I won't do that anymore. He is there with his receivers sitting there figuring out what's going wrong. Same thing Joe Burrow does. And this is what makes them great versus good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if he was more consistent I would say L, but it's a win, yes, sir, so 6-0.
Speaker 1:Oh, start the year. Pittsburgh Dubs Week, 7. Dubs.
Speaker 2:City. Yeah, we'll be there for it. We'll be there On the sealer side, apparently, because we don't want to pay the price for the home tickets. I'll pay the shit out of pocket Week 8, new York Jets Win. York Jets win eight. No, that's crazy. Week nine Chicago Bears win. Week 10 bye, they're gonna go into week 10 with no losses. They're gonna be chilling week 11 at. Pittsburgh win my nigga schedule's cake.
Speaker 1:this is if you have Mason Rudolph, it's a dub.
Speaker 2:Okay. Week 12, New England Patriots. I think that might be an L Again. You were just saying when the Steelers were facing them, don't want to face them late. This is week 12. They have a quarterback in Drake May. They have Travion. Who's going to defense besides Chris Gonzalez? Oh, they assigned the defense tackle from the Eagles Ball's out, Doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying Ball's out. And guess what? They can't stop the run.
Speaker 2:They'll be able to now. I really do think they will. With who the defense tackle from the Eagles, who's very good. He dominated in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:So a defensive tackle sits in the middle right Stops the run. Yes, Now what happens when our running backs? Who can't run up the middle run outside? Yeah okay, because we drafted the dude from. I think his name's Brooks Tajay Brooks.
Speaker 2:I think he's Taj Brooks from Texas Tech. He is small. I think that's him. Yeah, he is small. How do I remember that name? Of all names? Insane, I don't fucking know how?
Speaker 1:do you remember Our fifth round pick? But you sit there and go. What's his name? He plays for the Bengals, your quarterback Nigga. What the fuck? No bro.
Speaker 2:I find weird times, dude, and it's always.
Speaker 1:Like the most popular people In the NFL and I'm like dude.
Speaker 2:You have a weird way to end the season. It's kind of tough.
Speaker 1:The Ravens twice in three weeks Is not how I want to see the rest of my schedule. Why the Ravens twice? Who are we playing currently?
Speaker 2:Patriots.
Speaker 1:I said L.
Speaker 2:Again, you're not going to start this season 11-0 bro Patriots.
Speaker 1:Their defense isn't good enough. It's not good enough. Christian Gonzalez is very, very good. That is one receiver. We have two, if not three guys who are viable. We have another guy who is a viable option. They don't have two DVs. They for sure have nobody else in that secondary. And then we have two running backs who can run the ball in a decent O-line. That's getting better, yeah, okay. So I think we are properly staffed to play a team like this.
Speaker 2:I just think Drake May offensively. I think they will be able to do a lot against your defense, I agree, but again we're talking about the pass defense.
Speaker 1:They improved the DT and their DB is good, but again it's that much different than the Broncos.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but how many teams did you guys lose to last year, when Joe Burrow scored 40 points, 50 points, I think it was over 30. You guys had a losing record and Joe Burrow was scoring 30 in a week every week, practically.
Speaker 1:Joe Burrow was the only quarterback ever to have scored, to have thrown for four-plus touchdowns in almost every game, and still lose every game despite throwing four-plus touchdowns. Yeah.
Speaker 2:But we got better. Okay, all right, week 12. You're 12-0 now At Baltimore, week 13. That's a no. Come on, don't do this At Baltimore, very, very hostile place to play Late November. You're only about to have yourself 13 and up bro At Buffalo Bills. Stop playing with me, josh.
Speaker 1:Y'all are the bitch, Look at me. Look at me. Was my defense worse last year or worse in 2021?
Speaker 2:It's worse now. It's worse now. It's much worse now.
Speaker 1:My best DB in 2021 was Eli Apple.
Speaker 2:I think you guys will pray for Eli Apple, which y'all had last year.
Speaker 1:Five, eight to 14, fuck nigga. No D-line, no O-line. Our best O-line in that year was Lyle Collins. Go ahead, fuck with your boy.
Speaker 2:I dare you? I just think again when you guys said that I think you'd pray for Eli Apple.
Speaker 1:No, cam Taylor Britt is way better than Eli Apple.
Speaker 2:Last year he wasn't.
Speaker 1:Yeah, eli Apple's ass. Let's be honest, eli Apple wasn't there to cover nobody.
Speaker 2:I think you even admitted last year, in the middle of last year, that Cam Taylor Britt was having a very bad year. He was bad, but again our best TV was hurt.
Speaker 1:They're back, they're back now they're back.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's all positive, it's all positive. Okay, 14-0. I like this wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1:We lose to the Ravens. I didn't deny that.
Speaker 2:Okay, 13-1.
Speaker 1:That nigga Derrick Henry is going to put his dick in our mouth. We couldn't stop Nick Chubb.
Speaker 2:Do they pay him? They paid him like a two-year extension of like Time doesn't touch that man.
Speaker 1:I understand he had 1,200. I think he had like 1,500 last year. He didn't have 1,500.
Speaker 2:But he had, I think at 1,100.
Speaker 1:No, he had over 1,000 yards for sure. Yeah, cmc has fallen, but King Henry still stands. I don't. That time does not touch that man. Whatever his goal, he's gonna go on a down year. He's not gonna get the ball as much. He didn't get the ball as much and he was still that guy. Yeah, I have nothing for you.
Speaker 2:We can't stop Nick Chubb. Honestly, in the middle of last year, when we were all complaining About how they didn't give him the ball enough, and by the time the playoffs came they started just giving him the ball and he was just dicking down everybody, bro, they used him perfectly.
Speaker 1:I saw Nick Chubb kill us multiple times, multiple times in my life Derek Henry's better than Nick Chubb. We did beat the Ravens. No, we didn't beat the Ravens last year. Those were the two games where Joe Burrow threw for five touchdowns and one woman lost. My bad, he threw for six Lam. Two games where Joe Burrow threw for five touchdowns and one woman lost. My bad, he threw for six. Lamar had four Six touchdowns. That was the streak of four weeks where Evan McPherson couldn't hit shit.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 1:And Justin Duck comes out like 53. Schmitty three. Here's it. I'm going to touch women now. I need a massage, fucking, and he was missing like shit too last year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was bad last year, not against the Bengals.
Speaker 1:I got it, the Bills.
Speaker 2:So 13-1. Now Week 15 Baltimore Again, that's a weird way to play, like I think you guys might lose to both of them, both At home. No, sir, you guys might lose to both of them, both At home. No, sir, after playing Buffalo and them like, this is a really hard three-week stretch.
Speaker 1:We're at home, right, sir? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're at home In Paycor. Yeah, it is In Paycor. Yes, Next game, sir.
Speaker 1:At Miami Two is not planned by this point. It game, sir, at Miami Two is not planned by this point.
Speaker 2:It's a win, oh, I think you'd give your left testicle to have a season like this, dude, I'd give the whole sack.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? If somebody's listening right now, take it.
Speaker 2:And a Super Bowl victory. Gotta give me the Super Bowl win. Sign the papers. Gotta give me the Super Bowl win. Sign the papers.
Speaker 1:I could be awake, y'all could take them. Let's chop them bitches off to make sure I'm cauterized.
Speaker 2:It'd be much easier if Miami was coming to Bay Corps Again what week is this? Week 16.
Speaker 1:No shot to his playing right now. Tua got hurt in week 11. He's been gone. No shot, he's playing.
Speaker 2:Week 17, Arizona. I think Arizona low-key might be a better team this year Again, I said that before.
Speaker 1:Who's their starting quarterback?
Speaker 2:It's still Kyler, I know.
Speaker 1:Real quick. I'm not going to cap to you. The Ravens, the Bengals don't even play their starters in this game.
Speaker 2:Well, with your season, they've already won the division. They have the first overall seed. They've been sitting for two weeks, according to what you've been talking about.
Speaker 1:Real quick. I think this game's a loss. It's not. Our back is still better than the team.
Speaker 2:Wait, my bad. Peyton Thorn's the one slinging the ball. We're fucked. We're fucked. Marv will undress whoever you put on him.
Speaker 1:Are you talking about the nigga that only had like 300 yards? Last year I don't give a fuck. Okay, I know I'm not saying no.
Speaker 2:They were misusing Marv last year and I saw a picture he put I swear he's put on like 20 pounds of just muscle.
Speaker 1:I agree. He is going to kill everybody, Everybody that has anything bad to say about him. He will destroy them. We have to be confident that Kyler Murray can get him the ball.
Speaker 2:Again, the Bengals are probably a playoff team regardless, even when you're trying to be negative.
Speaker 1:You're like oh, they're playing a self-playoff team. The realistic of this schedule is we do win this many games, Come on. The realistic of this schedule is we do win this many games, Come on. The Bengals are just that good we're that good Okay.
Speaker 3:But even if we don't win this many games, our starters are benched by this game.
Speaker 1:Okay, the Bills play in a cheeky fucking division. They've had their division locked up for five weeks by now.
Speaker 2:I think, the only no, no, no I think the only chance of that, of what you're saying not being the case is if the Bengals are still fighting to try to get that number one overall seed and being at pay core throughout the playoffs. I think that's where the problem will come, because you are dealing with the Bills, who don't play anybody in their own division. You are dealing with the Chiefs, who own their division.
Speaker 1:This is where the problem is. In reality, we're probably going to be like 11-6.
Speaker 2:Yes, you guys are going to make the playoffs, you're going to win the problem in the division, but we're fighting with the Ravens to be the number one in our division. Yes, and we yeah so now you have to have a better record than them, which we probably will. The Ravens' schedule is harder than ours. Yeah, the Ravens did get screwed. Their schedule is way harder than ours. They got screwed pretty bad.
Speaker 1:Browns Jags, minnesota, denver. That is an easy four weeks. Denver is the only team that I truly believe we will beat them. I truly believe we will beat the Lions. I truly believe we'll fuck up the Packers. We're going to fuck the Steelers. Jets, bears, steelers again, fuck the Steelers, the Pats.
Speaker 2:You're so mean.
Speaker 1:Off game. Maybe. Maybe on the Pats we have an off game. I doubt it. That motherfucker, that left tackle they drafted is small. Him and Trey Hendricks are the same size. Trey Hendricks is faster and hopefully, and hopefully, I don't remember his name. I don't like this nigga that much. From Texas A&M. I don't know his name. I don't give a fuck about him. Shamar Stewart, what the fuck is wrong with you? Why do you know their names?
Speaker 1:who was our second round pick. I swear to god, if you get this, you gotta get out of my house it's like Demario Dixon or something like that. It was Demario Knight, but it's still weird, oh.
Speaker 2:Demetrius Knight. That's who it is.
Speaker 1:The fact you got that close to getting his first name crazy.
Speaker 2:It's Demetrius Knight who was your second round pick. Second round pick for the Steelers what we didn't have one. Dk Metcalf was our second round pick.
Speaker 1:I really thought you were going to pick some random nigga. No, dk Metcalf's our second round pick, but again, I did get his name right, by the way.
Speaker 2:I was wrong at first, and then you got me a little closer and I got the same, and then that was week 17. Week 18, the Browns. So in this magical scenario, you're going to go 17.
Speaker 1:I'm just doing a couple games. Go ahead. No, okay, cardinals.
Speaker 2:Cardinals week 17. 17, that's a win, oh wait, that's week 17.
Speaker 1:We don't bet you, it's a win.
Speaker 2:I thought you said it was going to be an L, because you're benching your guys.
Speaker 1:No, I thought it was last week.
Speaker 2:Week 18 is the Browns.
Speaker 1:Who do you think we're playing at this point? Who do you think is the quarterback?
Speaker 2:It's Again. I'm not a big believer in Shador but he's Short throw. Shador. It's probably going to be Shador by this point. It'll probably definitely be Shador.
Speaker 1:That's great. He's going to wish Dion was out there receiving for him, because we're going to fuck him up.
Speaker 2:The dub Okay Because.
Speaker 1:Miles Garrett's not playing at this point. They're not making the playoffs 17-1.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Who did we lose to?
Speaker 2:You said the Ravens once. It looks pretty good Playing that three-week stretch Ravens, bills, ravens is kind of insane. It looks pretty good to me. Oh okay, oh yeah. You'd give your whole nutsack for that record Again and again. I don't think it's really. I think you guys will probably win 11 games.
Speaker 1:I will make you as many children as you want Take it.
Speaker 2:I think 11 and 6 is perfectly reasonable for what your season is.
Speaker 1:Real quick for them to truly get my left nutsack, my whole nutsack, right. Let me win this many games and then play the Chiefs in the AFC Championship and beat the fuck out of them and then win the Super Bowl. You could kill me after that Bullet to the face. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2:Come on, you have to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I said, beat the Chiefs in the AFC Championship and then win the Super Bowl. Right after the Super Bowl, Lombardi is hoisted up.
Speaker 2:End my life, guillotine and all Pow.
Speaker 1:Gone. Happiest moment of my life, the last. That's all I need. That's all I need.
Speaker 2:That's all I need. Honestly, I hope you can have this much positivity when we do our actual over-unders.
Speaker 1:Hell. No, I've seen our defense in practice. Real quick. Joe Brown looks as elite as ever, but God damn, the Bengals defense makes him look so much better. They're out there making fucking Peyton Thorne look good. That's how bad they are In reality. We're 11-6. That is what we are 11-6,.
Speaker 2:Yes, you guys are battling the Ravens for the division making the playoffs.
Speaker 1:I can give you the actuality of what it's probably going to be. We beat the Browns, we beat the Jags, we beat Minnesota. I believe we beat Denver. I'm okay with that game being a toss-up. I think their defense we know what they are. They added a DT but we added a running back and, alas, your taste problem was very good in that game. So I think that game's more of a toss-up than you're letting it be the same with the Lions. That defense did not get much better. They didn't. They didn't get better, especially in their secondary. Their front seven got a little bit better, but they still have no linebackers and no secondary. Their D-line got better. We face good D-lines all year, every year. Joe Burrows faced them. Every fucking year he's played the Steelers.
Speaker 3:That's the best D-line in football because no matter what or who's in there, somebody is blitzing.
Speaker 1:Okay. This is why I think we beat the Lions. You're saying, yeah, their D-line got better. I agree they got better, but their secondary did not. And that's where the teams with bad secondaries is where the bangles thrive, because they run in a fucking air raid.
Speaker 2:I'm just, I'm just checking their draft real quick to see if they added anything, and they really did exactly that team did not get better.
Speaker 1:They didn't do much in free agency besides that dt. It is a win okay I.
Speaker 2:I think it's a toss-up I think, I think it's a toss-up I agree's a toss up, I agree, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1:Those were my Potential losses, I agree. And then, oh, you paused.
Speaker 2:Huh, you paused.
Speaker 1:No oh.
Speaker 2:It's a dog drinking water, it's fine.
Speaker 1:He's still going.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's fine, just keep going Okay.
Speaker 1:Um, I truly believe we beat the tailors Twice this year. He's still going yeah, it's fine, just keep going, okay, gang.
Speaker 2:I truly believe we beat the Steelers twice this year. You can't even create a world that's more normal. It's the curse of Joe Burrow. Our offense is that good. I don't see a world where we lose to the Steelers twice With.
Speaker 1:Mason Rudolph as quarterback. Fuck no With Rod Mason Rudolph as a quarterback, fuck no With Rodgers. Maybe, maybe. But Cam Taylor Britt's the perfect dude to piss DK Metcalf off. Physicalized DB on DK Metcalf he pissing George Pickens off last year.
Speaker 2:Everybody Pickens, could Pickens, just you know.
Speaker 1:When is DK Metcalf at his worst? Who, when he has a physical risk, db on him? Who ain't fast? Because they both slow as shit. They both slow.
Speaker 2:Pickens.
Speaker 1:No, DK Metcalf is slow.
Speaker 2:He's not slow, he ain't fast. He ran a 4-3 in the combine.
Speaker 1:So did Cam Dillard.
Speaker 2:That nigga's slow 4-3 is slow for us. Okay, so are you creating this net magical world? Where are the six losses at? If you truly believe that's probably, where you're at.
Speaker 1:I'm trying, I'm trying.
Speaker 2:No, you're not losing to the Jets, you're not losing to the Bears, the Patriots. I really do think no, nigga.
Speaker 1:No, who the fuck's on that? They didn't get better.
Speaker 2:Okay, so you'll lose to the Ravens twice, then no, the losses have to come from somewhere. If you think 11-6 is more reasonable, it's not the.
Speaker 1:Patriots nigga Mike Vrabel's, the defensive head coach, the offense is the same. It's not the Patriots. It's not the Patriots, okay.
Speaker 2:You have to pick where the losses are coming from.
Speaker 1:if you're going to have six of them, I don't know, gang, I don't know, maybe 17-1 if we lose to Denver and the Lions 15-3.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay Gang, I don't see losses. I't see losses. I only see victims.
Speaker 2:You know what. I only see victims. That might be the name of the podcast. I don't see losses.
Speaker 1:I see victims Because I listen to the fucking Bills. Fuck the Bills. Y'all ain't changed at all. What you do. Add a dunk, king Kaden. Who's your best receiver? Keon Coleman. I've seen him play. He ain't nothing special.
Speaker 2:What the nigga that don't wear shoes all the time.
Speaker 1:That nigga has fungal growth, get him the fuck away from me.
Speaker 2:He manages to make plays every time, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so did Gabe Davis.
Speaker 2:Can't wait to get sent.
Speaker 1:Gabe Davis had one year, one game and this dude somehow makes plays, can't wait to get sent. Gabe Davis had one year, one game and this dude somehow makes plays, can't wait to get sent off and makes 31 million dollars a year For no fucking reason.
Speaker 2:I think Gabe Davis is playing with the Jaguars Hilarious, yeah, and he got paid a shit ton of money. He's not good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did get paid a decent amount. What'd they call him? And then they took Travis.
Speaker 2:Hunter, that's funny, how that works.
Speaker 1:Cause they probably saw Gabe Davis in training camp and be like, oh fuck, he's been locked up for three straight days.
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably need a better weapon than that.
Speaker 1:All right, I'm not going to lie to you. Our schedule is cake. It is very easy. The hardest two teams we really have to play is the Bills and Ravens Lions. I forgot they were on here. The Lions they're good. The Packers aren't difficult at all. What Jordan Love are we getting, if you get the good Jordan Love Is?
Speaker 2:the defense better. Their defense is better than yours, so is everybody else's.
Speaker 1:Joe Burrow still had 47 on yours.
Speaker 2:Sorry, didn't change the Sorry.
Speaker 1:I keep coming to this conversation to think I'm going get a Reasonable conversation, okay okay, okay, but as long as you have Joe Burrow on your side, there's no such thing. I understand. Our defense was number 31 last year. Yeah, we lost a fuck ton of games. Uh huh. And Joe Burrow still Beat a bunch of good teams. He beat no, he didn't. He beat a bunch of shitty teams and then played really well against the good teams.
Speaker 2:But we're still 15-3. He played good enough where it wasn't his fault last year.
Speaker 3:That's all we can say it's never his fault. It wasn't his fault.
Speaker 2:During your slow starts. It has been his fault. He hadn't played. How did he play against the Patriots last year? Dude, jamar Chase hadn't played. I got an excuse for everything nigga Go ahead, keep shooting. I got an excuse for everything nigga Go ahead, keep shooting. Joe Burrows your Jesus bro. Call me the Kevin Mutombo. I'm locking these bitches. He's your Jesus bro. It's hilarious, but you know what? He's good enough to where I can't necessarily sit here and say you shouldn't think that way, but I'm just Dude.
Speaker 1:This is it. I got four more years of this. Either we win a Super Bowl or we're back in obscurity until the next dude.
Speaker 2:You know, I can only hope I can get to a point where I, like you're at. That's what I want. My dream is to believe in a quarterback the way you can believe in your quarterback, at least believe in a quarterback in black and gold, in a way that you believe your quarterback in orange and black.
Speaker 1:I have to Like. I said I only have four more years of this because if we don't win something or get obscenely better, he's going to be 31 at the end of this contract.
Speaker 2:And he'll be able to go play somewhere else and have plenty of years left Comfortably. So yeah, for sure. I've seen this story.
Speaker 1:I watched Carson Palmer do this shit, Dude credit to him.
Speaker 2:He was willing to retire because he's like I'm not doing this no more. He was willing to retire and sit out for over a year and then come back and be able to play, because that's how tired he was, fuck you Drafted Andy Dalton.
Speaker 1:This nigga turned out to be good. Decent yeah for sure. See, we say decent Like he ended up with a shit ton of yards. No, for sure he played great, a shit ton of yards and.
Speaker 2:He got you to play off multiple times, though, and then didn't do much there, but he still did his thing.
Speaker 1:I would have preferred if we just kept losing, yeah. I know there's so many good players, instead of drafting John Ross at nine.
Speaker 2:One of the craziest draft picks ever Nothing could be worse than Jamarcus Russell.
Speaker 1:Ryan Leaf was pretty bad.
Speaker 2:Ryan Leaf was pretty bad but again his is more drugs and all that stuff related Off the field stuff. Jamarcus Russell was awful from the get-go On the field, terrible.
Speaker 1:It wasn't even more the off-field problems until after he was bad on the field.
Speaker 2:There's one more guy I'm trying to think of. That was like stupid bad Draft wise.
Speaker 1:Who was the quarterback? Brady Quinn there it is.
Speaker 2:Brady Quinn was not a first round pick.
Speaker 1:Yes, the fuck he was.
Speaker 2:Brady.
Speaker 1:Quinn, he was a second round pick Look it up.
Speaker 2:Manziel was a first round pick.
Speaker 1:That one's really bad. That's damn close to number one.
Speaker 2:Brady Quinn was a second round pick College draft. Oh, he was in the first round, so pick 22. My bad, I'll say maybe I was.
Speaker 1:I know the Browns history. I was messing him up with Colt McCoy.
Speaker 2:They drafted Colt McCoy in the second round, damn are they?
Speaker 1:They drafted that many, that many. They had second round.
Speaker 2:Damn, are they Drafted that many quarterbacks, that many.
Speaker 1:They had so many Shit. I can distinctly remember three.
Speaker 2:The Browns have a lot of bad quarterbacks. They took Johnny Manziel in the first round. Insane Brady Quinn did a lot more in college Than Brady Quinn was better Once he left the Browns. And plus he. He was 6'4, 232, like he had the. He was the stereo, he was like the quarterback.
Speaker 1:If you go to like his game logs the year he left the Browns, he was way better.
Speaker 2:He only played 24 games.
Speaker 1:Oh, he played for Browns all his life. Oh, I'm so sorry for your loss.
Speaker 2:He played four seasons and he played Kansas City his last year In 2012. Played in eight games. One in seven this nick was at um he was so bad, so bad jesus.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I can't find. I know, I know three more losses.
Speaker 2:You have your bangle, you have your jesus, you have joe burrow. Is your, is your guy.
Speaker 1:We might lose to the Browns last week.
Speaker 2:Because you're sitting everybody, you don't care, no more At that point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we'd probably be sitting everybody. Either we have the division or we don't.
Speaker 2:Playoffs are in hand. That's kind of just what it is.
Speaker 1:I totally understand Either we have the division or we don't. Okay, so if we're sitting everybody, that's another loss.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is my. This is the last thing before we get out of here, off the, but you can keep thinking about the angles in the back of your head. Apparently, the NFL is going to, they're going to do the owner's meetings where they kind of do those the rule stuff they said they're potentially going to vote on not doing the playoff seeding by just automatically giving it to the top four division winners. The first four seeds is not automatically going to go to the four division winners. Are you for or against that? Against Okay, so you want to have, because that's the only thing. Against, that is when you have, let's just say, the NFC South, when you have a division winner only winning eight games and making the playoffs and being able to host a playoff game Real quick.
Speaker 1:there were years where these motherfuckers won eight and eight and I'm like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:Or the NFC North and NFC West, when they were those bad years where the Seahawks coming in winning seven games and they hosted a playoff game. I feel like that's wrong.
Speaker 1:Okay, you say that the Seahawks won the Super Bowl off that shit. No, no, not that year, no, but they still won the Super Bowl off of going 9-8 as a wild card and won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:But as a wild card, not hosting a playoff game, they were still the best in the division. You should have never here. 9-8 means you don't make it. Ask the Bengals. I just think I just don't want to, because there's a lot of tough division. We're in a tough division right now.
Speaker 2:Imagine the Bengals and Ravens going down the pike. They're only a game or two against each other and the Bengals get, they're off by the Ravens and they have to go play a wild card game and play in somebody else's house when somebody in let's just say the afc east, no, let's say afc south, because normally that's been like the bad division, even though I think the, the houston's probably gonna own that division from from here on out. Let's just say they only win like eight games in the bangles have to go play in their house when they won 12. Like I, I just I can get behind the idea that you don't.
Speaker 1:That's why it's so important to win your division.
Speaker 2:I get it. No, I get it. I understand.
Speaker 1:I think there should be a reason you have to try to win your division and I think the teams that are better it should be a premium on winning your division. And I think there's going to be a lot of teams where they're like Most divisions. There's two teams and the AFC North. Unfortunately, there's three to four of us every year. It's a fucking bitch. So, again, I would believe that the AFC North may be a division that votes for something like that.
Speaker 2:Or the NFC North. Nfc North is bad. The.
Speaker 1:Lions Packers, the AFC, you mean good.
Speaker 2:No, I'm saying bad as in. It's very hard in that division.
Speaker 1:It's hard to get the number one seat in your division. Yeah, so the better divisions in football may vote for that? Yeah for sure, but the worst ones? Tampa Bay, is probably like no fuck that, we don't want to do that shit.
Speaker 2:We want to host two playoff games. We want to be able to host a playoff game for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know I get it, but I like the fact that it means something you get, that you get to host At least one game. Get to host a game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, I get it. I just think that it can be so finicky and I'm like at some point, but you're one of those teams that doesn't ever win your division. True, but again we're sitting right above 500, so it's not really for me. I really don't care, but it's just the nfc north teams, like three teams, are making it a team like the steelers.
Speaker 1:Who are the steelers? Bangles, ravens they were all struggling for number one. Yeah, so hey, we don't have to go play at somebody else's house. We're way better than the team we're about to play.
Speaker 2:Right we get screwed over because, because we are in a division with better teams overall.
Speaker 1:No, it doesn't really matter for the AFC. Basically, every team that's in the playoffs has 10 plus wins. 10 wins is the minimum. You have to have 10 to get in.
Speaker 2:Oh, in the last few years there's a lot more. Like I was saying before, over the last two or three years there's been a lot more good AFC teams than NFC teams.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so the AFC may be a little more for it Because a lot more good quarterbacks than AFC. Also, you have teams like the Bengals at the Ravens. The Ravens have 11. The Bengals have 12. Cool, the Bengals lost one more AFC North game. Those games mean more. That's why they're played harder. That's why they're played harder. That's why they're more fun to watch. I love AFC North games. They're great.
Speaker 2:I've seen so many fist fights, I can make a case because there's such a big discrepancy in quarterback play. Ah shut the fuck up that of the top, cry, cry, no, no, no, I'm saying the quarterback, because quarterback is so important, right, yeah, if If not for Jaden Daniels, jaden Daniels, like again. That's when I forget how many good quarterbacks Are there in the NFC.
Speaker 1:Jordan Love a good quarterback.
Speaker 2:I'll say good, he's good more often than not, so I'll say him I don't know the AFC team. All I can think of is why am I forgetting names now? Goff Love, love, hurts, hurts.
Speaker 1:I don't know the AFC team.
Speaker 2:Gino used to be in the NFC. He's in the AFC now. He was never one of them Again, but he was more consistent Than everybody else. I don't know the.
Speaker 1:I don't know the the NFC team.
Speaker 2:Jaden Daniels. After With a year ahead last year, you can just say he is.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know anymore.
Speaker 2:Like they're hoping for Caleb To be good.
Speaker 1:I don't know the teams. I don't have an answer. I don't know the teams.
Speaker 2:Oh, oh, oh oh, oh, we got five. We have five Stafford. We're good, there's five.
Speaker 1:I don't know the team. I don't know who the fuck to get.
Speaker 2:I don't know the team After them. We're talking about Kyler, no.
Speaker 1:I'm a little bit higher on Kyler than you, but even still Last year no one should be. It's my job to throw to the receivers. Yes, it is fuck nigga.
Speaker 2:Last year was really bad for him.
Speaker 1:When they tried to put a clause I guess to study the playbook In this thing, it was like this Motherfucker's garbage Instantly Lost all credibility with me.
Speaker 2:Uh, Darnold's in the NFC now Not really consistent enough. He had a great year last year, but oh, but.
Speaker 1:Gino is one of them. They're the same nigga. He was more consistent. No, he's not. Last year, no, gino was worse.
Speaker 2:Gino's playing on a worse team.
Speaker 1:Ooh, Ooh, no, I think they're about equal Sam.
Speaker 2:Darnold With Jay Jeddas. Who does Sam Darnold With Jay Jettas? Who did Sam Darnold have last year, Jace, he was on the Vikings. Jay Jettas Hawkinson, the other wide receiver's name.
Speaker 1:It's Jordan Addison. Addison, yes, God damn damn dude, you are like bad, bad again, I'm bad, bad.
Speaker 2:And then I remember a third round pick. You didn't even think you were. You can remember compared, darn old Geno, 15 interceptions. He had 15 interceptions. Who was he throwing to last year? 15? They didn't even believe in JSN Until late the year. Last year. Dude, it's JSN and nobody else. Dude, well, I guess he did have dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. 15 is crazy 15 sam donald had 12 and 35 touchdowns. He had j jettas top wide receiver in the nfl second. Sorry, second they were 10-7.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh this, he had more passing yards.
Speaker 2:Are you making my case for me? Do you know?
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay. No, he is worse. He's just slinging that motherfucker. You don't know who he's going to.
Speaker 2:He's throwing that bitch up yeah, they needed him to. They had nothing else.
Speaker 1:It shows, it shows, it shows, it shows, it shows, it shows, it shows, it shows, it shows. Real quick, you say nothing else, hold on. Uh Ah. Motherfucker, I'm gonna have to speak. How do I spell Kenneth?
Speaker 2:K-E-N-N-E-T-H, e-t-h, not A. He was hurt for most of the season.
Speaker 1:He still had seven touchdowns, 500 or 700 yards that's not a lot bro. It's still more than that, zach.
Speaker 2:Sharpen might have actually outpaced him in yards. His backup.
Speaker 1:How do I?
Speaker 2:remember that name? His backup, backup. How do I remember that name? Who the fuck is Zach Sharp? His backup? I think I remember his name more because I had him in Fantasy last year. I don't give a fuck who the fuck is Zach Sharp. He played at UCLA. You forgot Fucking.
Speaker 1:Jane D played at UCLA. You forgot Fucking Jane Dane was there. You just pulled Zach Sharman out, your fucking ass.
Speaker 2:Who the fuck you knew where he went to college. I'm pretty sure he played at UCLA.
Speaker 1:We will look this up right after this. If you were right, you got to reevaluate. You got to reevaluate, okay. If you were right, you've got to reevaluate, you've got to reevaluate, okay. I'm now lost on Zach Charbonnet. I'm sorry, give me a moment. I want to see where he did the most interceptions. Oh, this is like the full goddamn thing. I don't want that. It's too much stat. No.
Speaker 2:I get it. It's overload INTS.
Speaker 1:Here's three he threw three right here. This is where Kenny Walker had his most yards. So Kenny Walker was there for week five through 11, week two and three and gone after 12. He threw most of his interceptions between five. Yeah, he definitely played at UCLA.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I was still thinking about Zach Durbin.
Speaker 1:Why Three and three? Yeah, who was on the Rams secondary?
Speaker 2:They had a good dead decent defense last year.
Speaker 1:Secondary.
Speaker 2:They didn't have a lot of names, but they played very well because they have a lot. They have very good.
Speaker 1:Their front seven.
Speaker 2:Jared Verse and the defensive end they drafted. He was very good last year.
Speaker 1:Was he a first round pick?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, real quick. Don't know this nigga.
Speaker 2:Jared Verse was very good last year.
Speaker 1:You forgot Jaden Daniels. I Jared versus very good last year. You forgot Jaden Daniels, I'm sorry. Zach Charbonnet and then Jared verse what?
Speaker 2:are these AI generated names? Get the fuck away. There are names I can remember, I guess.
Speaker 1:Okay, look, he threw his most interceptions when Kenny Walker was healthy. So this nigga's ass, I don't care, send his ass back to the Jets. What's his name? Zach Charbonnet. This nigga's ass, I don't care, send his ass back to the Jets. What's his name?
Speaker 2:Zach Charbonnet. Zach Charbonnet, yeah, z-a-c-h. Charbonnet, c-h-a-r. You can spell his name yeah, c-h-a-r.
Speaker 1:Not S-H Charbonnet Charbonnet, this nigga went to UCLA.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I remembered him.
Speaker 1:He didn't have as many yards as Kenny Walker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but look at his receiving yards. He probably was a monster last year.
Speaker 1:You knew his name, yeah.
Speaker 2:What? What are you looking at now? Quarterbacks.
Speaker 1:Baker.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, baker's another one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:The next name that popped up in my brain was Bryce Young, and I was like damn yeah Dak. Yeah, bryce Young, and I was like damn yeah Dak.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I, I guess, but then you have.
Speaker 1:Josh Allen. Yeah, um, drake, may Yup Justin Fields for the Jets. Ain't nothing to scoff at. It ain't nothing to scoff at. He's there. Um, damn Lamar Jackson, lamar, damn Lamar Jackson, lamar Joe, bowe Joe.
Speaker 2:CJ Trevor Lawrence, even though we don't believe in him, but still.
Speaker 1:Now they have Cam Ward. Now they have Cam J Herbo. Despite what, he is Damn More than half the teams have a good quarterback yeah. You're talking. The only ones that kind of don't are the Dolphins.
Speaker 2:The only teams that for sure don't are the Dolphins. The only teams that for sure don't have a quarterback is the Steelers, raiders, raiders, colts.
Speaker 1:Colts Browns, not a definite Browns, it's four, it's four. But the rest either are good quarterbacks or just like some of the best in the league. I think you have the best quarterbacks in the NFL or in the AFC? All in the AFC? Yeah, you have, I think, the top five or all in the AFC.
Speaker 2:Yes. Without a doubt and like seven of the top ten yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like without a doubt, seven of the top ten are all in the AFC. At least I can't.
Speaker 1:At least seven.
Speaker 2:Seven, at least seven.
Speaker 1:You have Patrick Mahomes, number one. Joe Burrows, number two. Josh Allen, number three. Cedar Shots, number four. Don't care what nobody says. Lamar Jackson Ooh, is he four or is he six? Is he five or is he six? He's five, he's in the top five. Cedar Shouse, number four. I don't care what nobody says. Lamar Jackson Ooh, is he four or is he six? Is he five or is he six? He's five, he's in the top five, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Bo Nix is real fucking good. Bo Nix is not a top ten yet he's not even close.
Speaker 1:Bo Nix, no If you think he's a top ten quarterback they're beating?
Speaker 2:you, he's not number two. You quoted him as not being good enough and that's why you guys beat them last year.
Speaker 1:He said he couldn't step up to the moment, couldn't step up to the Chiefs.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but if you're calling him a top, he couldn't step up to the Chiefs. Step up to the Chiefs, nigga. Do it, do it pussy.
Speaker 1:He did oh, how's the playoffs? Go home, fuck nigga. Go home, fuck nigga. Stop playing with me.
Speaker 2:15 to 3 pussy alright, we've gone long enough. We need to end this podcast. We've had a lot of fun, but we'll be back next week doing our thing two and a half hours yeah yeah, but yeah, we had a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun doing all this, talking about everything we wanted to talk about. I think the Knicks have already beaten the Celtics by now. Who cares?
Speaker 1:Not me. Fonzo will, though. See. Sga had four fouls before the end of the second half. Yeah, before the end of the first half. My bad, yeah. Four fouls.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was. Sga does have a little bit of the. Oh, it's not going my way, I'll just throw. He does that sometimes, but again, he's too good at everything else. It doesn't really matter. But you know, yeah, like getting fouled, yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so Real quick. He was almost as good as Prime Shane Harden to get fouls. Brunson is too.
Speaker 2:Dude Brunson's a foul merchant.
Speaker 1:There was one game. It was they were playing the Rockets and it was Shang-Goon. Sga was like yeah, I am. I also left 20 in free throws and he had 25 in free throws, he ended up scoring 40. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Crazy.
Speaker 1:And only a couple of them were off your own points, dude. It's just insane.
Speaker 2:But, yeah, talk about everything we want to talk about. Talk plenty of trash to each other, which is what we usually do. So, alinda here, if you've been listening for a while, we appreciate you just now joining on. Hopefully you'll like us and enjoy us enough to join us on the ride and talk about sports in the dumbest way possible, are you really going to hum? We do not do that I was trying to get one consistent bar If you like us and enjoy us enough.
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Speaker 1:I don't know why I'm having so much fun just watching little bars go up and down. Yeah, I'm a simple-minded motherfucker Because, god damn, I'm having fun. Yeah, I bet you are. This has been Taylor's Post Podcast. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you guys for always listening. Have a nice day, a nice night and a nice weekend. Bye.
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