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Is the NBA draft lottery system fundamentally broken? That's the question at the center of this week's episode as we examine how Dallas winning the right to draft Cooper Flagg exposes flaws in how talent is distributed across the league. We make the case that genuinely struggling franchises need more than "just be better" advice when they can't attract free agents and can't count on high draft picks even when they lose consistently.
The quarterback market gets another seismic shift with Brock Purdy's massive $265 million extension. We debate whether the 49ers' decision makes sense given their overall roster situation and whether Purdy belongs in the same salary tier as more accomplished quarterbacks. The comparison to Baker Mayfield's more modest deal with Tampa Bay raises interesting questions about quarterback value assessment.
We then dive into full schedule breakdowns for the Steelers and Bengals, going week-by-week with predictions that start optimistically before reality sets in. The contrast between pre-season expectations and likely outcomes reveals the eternal optimism of sports fandom, especially when discussing one's favorite team.
The Trey Hendrickson contract situation provides a window into how teams value defensive talent, with compelling arguments about where he ranks among the league's elite edge rushers and why Cincinnati should prioritize keeping their defensive cornerstone.
Whether you're fascinated by sports economics, draft strategy, or just want to hear passionate debate about NFL schedule predictions, this episode offers fresh perspectives on the business and competitive structures that shape the games we love. What would you give up for your team to go 17-0? One host's answer might surprise you.
welcome back to the podcast. Today's friday, may the 16th, we're back to the podcast we're back.
Speaker 2It's two of us, I think I did. I did a solo one last week. We couldn't make it work out, but you got jace here today. We're doing our thing here, planning to talk about nfl, nba, mountain, as much nba, because there's really not. There's like two series still going on as of right now. You got, but before I get into that, nfl had their schedule release this past week. Uh, this, did you watch any of the schedule release videos? I just want to get your live reaction to the Chargers one, because it's the Minecraft one.
Speaker 1I don't care, it's ass. They do the best one every year. I don't care. I don't care. Okay, sorry, I just really All those games, just to lose to the Chiefs twice. For what?
NBA Updates and Playoff Discussion
Speaker 2Yeah, but I just like their level of petty. It's kind of fun, even though there's other ones that were petty too. They had the Colts when they got in trouble for talking about Tyreek Hill getting pulled over by the cops and they deleted theirs and they were like saying that we were sorry Tyreek Hill. I found it funny. I don't know why he deleted it, but we'll get to that. Let's start with basketball. Don't have too much talk about there. Like I already said, there's only two series that are still going on right now. Pacers are sitting at home resting up. Who is on the western side sitting at home? Timberwolves? And they're sitting at home resting up waiting for the other side of this bracket to kind of figure itself out.
Speaker 2So you have Denver and Oklahoma City going into a game seven. I believe they play either tomorrow or Sunday. I think it's Sunday. That's going to be a game seven in Denver Actually, no, it's in Oklahoma City. So that'll be a very big matchup. Honestly, that's been the closest series so far. And then you have the game six going on right now between the Knicks and the celtics. They're going getting close to halftime here and the knicks are currently up 24.
Speaker 2It kind of sucks, though. Jason tatum got hurt in the middle of this series. He ended up tearing and tearing his gillies ended up getting. It was a big injury.
Speaker 2My whole thing with, uh, people started feeling really bad for jason tatum. I think this might've changed the course of his career. I don't care. I know Cause everybody likes to take credit away from him how good of a player he is. And the next thing, you know, a guy that's been like perennial Ironman for that team goes away. And the next thing, you know, Boston's going to lose this series and they're going to kind of be taken out in the second round, which round which they haven't been.
Speaker 2They've been mostly in the Eastern Conference finals for the last three, four or five years, including the winning the championship last year. So yeah, that part kind of that part of it kind of sucks. I know all Knicks fans don't necessarily want to have that excuse of, oh you beat the Boston Celtics but you only beat them because Jason Tatum was out. But it looks like they're probably going to figure this out tonight in game six. Again, it's only a 20-point lead. Those have been erased multiple times over because of how scoring is now. But they're in the garden. I think the Knicks are going to figure it out and end up going to go play the Pacers in the Eastern Conference Finals. But this is my main thing I wanted to talk about with the NBA.
Speaker 2So the draft lottery happened I think on monday or tuesday. It was monday and they got that all figured out. Do you know how the whole d? Just for anybody that doesn't know do you know how that process works?
Speaker 1it's like, don't they get like the percentages based on how many games you've lost? Yes, then you have a percent chance to get the first overall pick based on where you're at the bottom three teams, teams record-wise all get a 14% chance.
NBA Draft Lottery Analysis
Speaker 2Yeah, and then it goes up from there. I think the bottom half of the league all technically have a chance Down down, it goes down from there. No, I said the bottom half of the league. All of them technically have a chance to get the first overall pick, yeah, and then you said it goes up. Pretty much anybody that doesn't make the playoffs.
Speaker 1Yeah, but again you said it goes up, you mean it goes down.
Speaker 2Oh, my bad, Sorry. Yes, the chances go down as the teams get better and better of getting that pick, but what they do is with the ping pong balls. Just for anybody that doesn't know, because I actually watched it, they put it on YouTube, the actual ball picking and all that.
Speaker 1That's how they do it.
Speaker 2They do with little lottery balls. They go lottery a ball, one through 14. And then they give based on their chances. They give you a list of numbers, so you have to get a combination of four balls from anywhere from one to 14. And then, if one of your accommodations pops up, you get that pick who's highest. They wanted to make it to where I don't think it's rigged. I really don't. I don't think it's cool. But they wanted to make it to where I don't think it's rigged. I really don't. I don't think it's cool, but I just think they wanted to make it so hard to rig it to where people won't have the complaint. But even LeBron said that it was rigged for him to get picked by Cleveland.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, that shit was crazy.
Speaker 1I saw that and I was like that's wild. How can I have?
Speaker 2your league's most notarized player, give into that idea. Idea, when you're battling that same thing, when people are like, oh, dallas got the number one overall pick, it was rigged because they sent Luka to LA and they got the back end of oh, you can just get the number one overall pick and get Cooper flag, which is crazy. I'll get to that in a second, but I watched the YouTube video because the first time I ever watched it. It's kind of weird. So you get, if you get, your combination pops up and that's where if you get that pick, so that whole thing goes and then they win. Because obviously I was watching because the bulls had a chance to get the number one overall pick. They had like a 1.7 chance. Aha wasn't enough because the dallas mavericks got that pick and they had a 1.8 chance. And you know the funny thing about that is that the bulls and the mavericks had the same percentage chance. They had the same record. So you know how they decided who had the 0.1% higher chance to get it.
Speaker 2A coin flip. All that they do with a coin flip to figure out that tie Insane. So I was watching it. The Bulls got the 12th overall pick. I'm not going to go too deep into that. They just don't have any luck when it comes to getting a high draft pick at all. So I'm not going to go too deep. So this is my main thing. So I'm not sure if you're listening to this pod. I'm not sure where you sit on the thing. So some people believe that this is the best way to go. This is garbage.
Speaker 2It takes away chances for tanking.
Speaker 1Dude. There's teams that aren't trying to tank like the Hornets. They're just ass. They need picks like this Right.
Speaker 2The Pistons or the Trailblazers? Dude, they're just bad.
Speaker 1It's not like they're not trying. They don't have good players. They just don't. They're not good enough. Right, they are bad. There is very few teams. You can't say the Pistons, oh my bad.
Speaker 2They were a playoff team.
Speaker 1I'm so used to the Pistons being a playoff team.
Speaker 2They had a top four seed True.
Speaker 1But who on that team was doing something besides Cade Cunningham?
Speaker 2But again they had their chance to get their superstar player. That was, and that's where this is where I'll go with it, right? So before we get to that, the top four picks were Dallas getting the first overall pick, sacramento getting the second overall pick, the third overall pick, I think, going to the 76ers and then the fourth one. Hold on, let me make sure I got that right. Come on, give me the years.
Speaker 1This is a bad time for this to start uh, while you're doing this, um, there's a lot of thing on twitter saying that if players want to wear a retired number, and the guy who whose numbers retired says okay, they should wear a retired player patch on their jersey oh, to still recognize the player yeah, that actually I don't hate that, it's just a patch that goes on one of their shoulders. They were saying about the Giants, since neighbors wears one for Flannery.
Speaker 2Yeah, flaherty.
Speaker 1I believe it might be Flarey or Flannery. My apologies, I don't know his name. And then Abdul Carter, winning 11. Which was weird. Sim said it was okay, but his family said it wasn't.
Speaker 2Yeah, it is Apparently the daughter, and the ma and the wife were like this is your legacy. Yeah, yeah, and I'm like I don't hate it.
Speaker 1Yeah, why do you have input? It's not your fucking number. I'm alive For Flaherty. He's dead. His family was able. Cool Sims was like yeah, it's cool, I don't care, you weren't in college, yeah, go ahead LT. Yeah, cool, you're not LT.
Speaker 2Don't get that you got that fucked up. Yes, my whole thing on that is if you are a team that's going to retire numbers, then stick to it. Don't let the player decide. If you as a team are going to be willing to retire numbers because you like that player and you thought he gave something to your program, then fine, but stick to it, don't renege. If you think a player that you're about to draft should deserve that number, stick to it or don't do it at all.
Speaker 1I'm going to be honest. Numbers should only be retired if that player is really like that. I don't know who the fuck Phil Sins is.
Speaker 2He was a great, I think he won a Super Bowl with them.
Speaker 1The Giants have more than two. I don't think that's true NBA.
Speaker 2There we go.
Speaker 1Sorry. Oh, I know this motherfucker. He's on ESPN I know who you are.
Speaker 2Dallas Sorry, it took me that long to get it. Dallas. San Antonio, philadelphia 76ers and the Charlotte Hornets. I was rooting for the Charlotte Hornets, my apologies, he did win two Super.
Speaker 2Bowls. My bad, I didn't know your game. I was rooting for the Charlotte Hornets to get that first overall picks. At least they're a bad enough team that deserves it, damn okay. So now I wanted to get to my overall point. I don't know why I kind of stopped that in order to say what those top four picks are. Okay.
Speaker 2So people that there's some people that believe that the NBA draft lottery is great, it lessens the chance for taking, and just says, hey, it's a better overall system of not giving or just automatically giving the team that just wants to screw over their whole season and their fans that overall pick to give them that little, that little thing to go for. And there's some people on the other side that says the draft lottery stupid and it's rigged, which I don't think it is because people that want to believe that I'm like I'm just sitting here like the, especially after watching that video of those of those balls getting picked. You know, the guy there's like a little guy that has a timer, literally a stopwatch, that says when the guy that's picking the balls picks it, he has his head turned. He doesn't even see the whole process. So I do believe the NBA is like making it to where they are trying to make it as foolproof as possible of not having it being rigged.
Speaker 2Okay, but this is where I sit on this, which is why I think it needs to be gone, and because the nba has made such an effort to make it where super teams aren't a thing anymore, they want the talent throughout the nba to be more scattered out. They want less super teams. They want because of the CBA stuff that they have done over the last two times they've done it. That's how they're doing it. So now, when you have a team like Milwaukee that has Giannis and you go and trade for Dame, guess what their only course of action is when Giannis says, hey, I want to potentially get traded. Either he decides he wants to go and they get a boatload of picks for him, or he stays and they have to break down their team and pay the piper, maybe, suck, maybe to get a pick this nigga, phil sims ass.
Speaker 1I was very confused because they're comparing eli. He led through for 1800 yards in his first six seasons. Phil sims through for 6 000. My brain, something's not right here. He has two Super Bowls, so I started looking into it. This nigga played the prime LT. They were drafting the same draft class.
Speaker 2Yeah, they were pretty much a pack of Geel.
Speaker 1So you have two Super Bowls no Super Bowl MVPs, no regular season MVPs, but you played with a dude who has two Super Bowl MVPs and a regular season MVP. The same year you won the Super Bowl, yes, okay. So what correlated to me is you did just enough. Yeah. You weren't good, you weren't bad. You only ended up with like 25,000 yards. There's motherfuckers in the NFL right now with more yards than you.
Speaker 2Again, it was a different time, football-wise too, to where passing wasn't as crazy as it is now.
Speaker 1I'm sorry, jerry Rice played there this time. You're fucking lying.
Speaker 2Yeah, but Jerry Rice was transcendent.
Speaker 1Oh passing wasn't crazy right now. Jerry Rice, god damn it. All their names just left me's the one anchor. What black guy ocha does podcast ocha sinka shannon sharp um what's his brother's name sterling sharp, sterling sharp packer.
Speaker 2Hilarious how I start remembering names when you first decide to forget them yeah, sterling sharp as good as jerry rice.
Speaker 1Yeah, his career was cut short, but yeah um, he was playing at the same time, so you're saying it wasn't pass happy, and then I can name a lot of really good receivers from this time.
Speaker 2Yeah for sure, and a lot of really good quarterbacks from this time there are exceptions to the rule obviously oh cool.
Speaker 1So the rule is bullshit, if you know, if it's blatantly bullshit.
Speaker 2I'm just saying it's blatantly bullshit and you know, okay, my bad. So this is where I start to ask you your question. This is where we're going on a thought experiment. Real quick, I'm gonna start asking you a question. You give me your answer. Okay, yeah, if you want your players to be spread out throughout the league and have less bad teams, cool, fine, that's how you want to run your league. Okay, you want less crazy super teams in order for these teams, say the trailblazers or charlotte, do those teams ever truly have a chance to go sign the best player in the nba to come to play there?
Speaker 1no okay.
Speaker 2So if you're never going to be able to get some of these players to come there because either it's not a great city or they don't necessarily have the infrastructure, they're a young team that with not as much money, how are you supposed to get the great players that are supposed to help you win a championship? Because nobody's winning a championship nowadays without having a great player. And again it took the boston celtics, who have jason tatum, who was a top 10 player, maybe not a top five. That's crazy. Okay, we can have that argument later. But like even boston, boston's like a premier city in the united states, not for black people at least, but again a premier city in comparison to places like the portland and stuff like that. How are these teams supposed to get these players if, even if they suck, they can have?
Speaker 2Dallas, who almost made the playoffs, already have two potential hall of fame, one for sure hall of famer, one potential hall of famer. Again, I said anthony davis is is probably a surefire guy. You don't believe that? I don't want to have that argument on this podcast. I I'll say potential, I'll say potential. But Dallas and this is why I think it's not rigged Real quick. Dallas fucked up already and traded their best player. Why would they get a treat to go get the best player in the draft after they already made a terrible decision?
Speaker 1Fun fact the Lakers almost took this pick. The Dallas almost traded this pick to the Lakers and they said no. Fine how crazy that would have been if they got this pick too. It would be insane. I would have killed myself. There's no reason to watch basketball. I'm done.
Speaker 2Dallas would have tried harder to make the playoffs if that was the case. But, again, they couldn't control the fact that Kyrie got hurt, was done for that season and Anthony Davis had his little injury issues, so he wasn't able to play as much. Again, you couldn't have. So if you are a team that can't get one of the best players, so you have to be a homegrown guy. Oklahoma City as great as they are now, they had to be able to trade one of their best players for a guy like Shea.
Speaker 1He wasn't like that though.
Speaker 2Again, he wasn't't. But if he was a player, he is now in a free agent. Would he ever go to oklahoma city? Nah, so in order to get these players, it has to be homegrown. And if you are going to suck for a few years, if it just happens because not every team is just automatically saying we're just going to lose as many games as possible sometimes it just naturally happens because you just can't have, you don't have good injury, luck or something. Stuff doesn't go your way. But if you're're Charlotte or you're the Trailblazers and all that, now you're getting pushed out. Or the 76ers, who have Embiid, who have who's the other guy? Tyrese Maxey, tyrese Maxey and Paul George. They already have, on paper, a great team on there. There's one more person Paul George, embiid, tyrese Maxey, jared McCain and McCain, the guy they drafted in the top ten last year.
Speaker 1He's like that and he's very good.
Speaker 2He would have been Rookie of the Year if he didn't get hurt. He would have been.
Speaker 1He's like that.
Speaker 2So you can't do it that way. How are these teams supposed to get their franchise players to go? Help them go, be that better team. Why are you putting the 76ers in there? Well, I'm saying the 76ers because they already have a lot of. Again, they stumbled into having a great pick, but they don't deserve this pick?
Speaker 1Oh, they don't deserve it. I was about to say In tech.
Speaker 2Neither do the freaking Do San Antonio. Really. They already have their franchise player. The Spurs are bad, though they're probably going to use that pick to go. Try to trade for Giannis. If they get Giannis, nobody will ever score on them.
Speaker 1Okay, but again the Spurs makes more sense, the Spurs does.
Speaker 2They were bad. They're still ascending.
Speaker 1They're young and bad.
Speaker 2They're still ascending, so that makes sense.
Speaker 1Yes, the 76ers had bad injuries. Right Jared McCain got hurt.
Speaker 2And.
Speaker 1Dallas doesn't deserve the pick either. The franchise does not. Y'all don't get to trade Luka and then get the pick. The fans deserve it the franchise does not.
Speaker 2You do not get to be fucking idiots as a organization and then go get Cooper Flagg, one of the best domestic players we've had ever since Andy Davis, I think. Domestic players from the United States.
Speaker 1Andy from the United States.
Speaker 2Oh yes, he is, he is yes.
Speaker 1Fine, that boy's from Georgia.
Speaker 2But again, even he was unknown, he wasn't that. Nobody really thought. It was like a projection.
Speaker 1He was the number one prospect in his class.
Speaker 2No, he wasn't. He wasn't drafted. Number one.
Speaker 1No, not in it.
Speaker 2He was drafted three, yeah, but he wasn't like an automatic.
Speaker 1So was Michael Jordan, my nigga. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2Okay, fine, fine, fine.
Speaker 1Fine, that boy was like that. He was in the same class as fucking Zion Wilson.
Speaker 2Everybody was worried about whether he could start, did a jump shot or not.
Speaker 1That was like what they were worried about it didn't help. Zion was in his draft class. You were breezed over, true? Yeah, no one cared after Zion.
Speaker 2I guess Zion was a very huge prospect coming out domestically Real quick between those two.
Speaker 1who was drafted second?
Speaker 2No clue, no clue. No clue, and it was probably someone who was actually decent Probably, so that actually decent probably, so that that. So that's one thing right, and my other thing is that everybody could it have been. It may have been sure no, because she's already been given a big contract.
Brock Purdy's $265M Contract Debate
Speaker 1So he's farther along than anthony abwards is, and he ever got a big contract. Okay, yeah, he does.
Speaker 2He does have one sure it may have been so and this is my other thing is that some people will say that, hey, you should just run your organizations better, you should just be better, so you don't have to suck and get the number one overall pick to help change your franchise. And this is where my, my issue comes in. Okay, bad franchises are everywhere. Okay, okay, bad owners are everywhere. Just because they're billionaires doesn't mean they are good owners of a franchise. Okay, and that is in the NBA, that is in the NFL, that's in freaking NFL, that's baseball. Just because you're a millionaire doesn't mean you can run a sports team. Okay, and that's for good and for bad, whether they're stupid or whether they really don't care about winning and they just want to make money.
Speaker 1We were wrong. By the way, I think I was the number one over pick.
Speaker 2Was he number one 2020,? Yeah, I messed up on that His class was.
Speaker 2So that's where I sit right, because this is where I want to draw this parallel. Okay, so you want your team just to be better, be a where I kind of I want to draw this parallel. Okay, so you want your team just to be better, be better run, but this is from a top-down type of situation. So if you have a bad owner, there's no way they're going to get a good GM and all that and have everything run perfectly. What is the thing that potentially makes a team make drastic changes if they from what they're currently at and this is where I kind of you have this specific uh experience as a bangles fan jace, your owner, uh, paul brown, right, paul brown, jim brown not jim brown paul brown.
Speaker 1No, it's jim brown paul brown's dad okay.
Speaker 2He is what known as a very cheap. He just wants to make his money and go home. He is not necessarily a big spender. He doesn't really care about signing huge free agents. He just wants to make as much money as possible and have the team be okay and maybe make the playoffs. Okay, they had to suck one year, so bad to get the number one overall pick. To get Joe Burrow okay, joe Burrow has been the catalyst to change everything. Joe Burrow is good enough to make you think you have real Super Bowl chances. That makes Mr Brown make decisions he wouldn't normally make. Keep some talent he probably should keep. Get all these couple wide receivers that you have, these stud guys. He's keeping them. He's paying them. He's done that before, but not to this level. He's kept one guy, not both.
Speaker 1He's never had more than one.
Speaker 2True, but they're starting to make some decisions they wouldn't normally make, because Joe Burrow's making them make that decision, especially in basketball, where one player can make such a huge difference on a franchise. The freaking Cavaliers sucked before LeBron James got there and they started. They had to get better because his greatness forced them to get better.
Speaker 1Okay, I see what you're saying. It's the idea that a team can be bad once and never be bad again.
Speaker 2It can change your world if you have a player that forces you to make better decisions. I agree.
Speaker 1Because the Bengals were bad 2019, 2020, they got Joe Burrow, they got better, had a decently high pick and then got even better, and then we haven't been in the top five, sometimes even badly-ran organizations need to have that nugget that one chance to push them, make them make better decisions.
Speaker 2I agree. And if they don't have that chance to go get that number one overall pick and get that player, then it's not going to change. You're not just going to tell them get better and they will do that, that's not how that works.
Speaker 1No, I agree Like Cleveland was a great example. Cleveland has never been that bad again. They haven't.
Speaker 2They've been top ten bad, but they've never been as soon as LeBron saying they suck for two years and then got Kyrie Irving, and then they were fine. And then they started doing little things better. And guess what? Lebron wanted to come back and it changed them all over again. It did, having that one player can change the way you do things.
Speaker 1Here's the thing If LeBron wasn't from Ohio and played for Cleveland and loved Cleveland, would he have gone to Cleveland in a free agency? No, no, okay, but they were very good though, yeah, but they weren't.
Speaker 2They were set up. They had Kyrie Irving, one of the best guards at the time.
Speaker 1Yes, they had, kyrie.
Speaker 2Irving, and they had a very big chip in What's-His-Face that ended up being traded with Golden's. Oh no, why am I freaking? His name name Plus. They were able to get Kevin Love to go there.
Speaker 1Yes, but that's that's all they were telling Kevin Love. Hey, we're gonna get LeBron. Yes, so they don't get LeBron. They don't get Kevin Love. Yes. And who do they have? Somebody that went to Golden State.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's, it's. It's the one guy. He was looked at as like the next LeBron and then he wasn't. Who was that? I think he ends up playing for it's not Anthony.
Speaker 3Is it Anthony Bennett? No, he was the number one overall pick. That sucked Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 2No, who was Cleveland?
Speaker 1Andre Iguodala Number one overall picks.
Speaker 2I just want to make sure I get his name. You asked me what his name is, gosh, how are you going to do that? To me? It was Andrew Wiggins. He was looked at as the next LeBron.
Speaker 1Wiggins didn't play for fucking Cleveland.
Speaker 2Yes, again, he never had a chance because LeBron came there and made him trade him. They traded him to go get Kevin Love. That's how they got. Kevin. Love.
Speaker 1Andrew Wiggins is the number one overall pick. Yes.
Speaker 2Stop why he was looked at as the next LeBron. Did they?
Speaker 1just give him their first round pick. No, they gave him them first round pick.
Speaker 2They had already drafted. Andrew Wiggins no they didn't.
Speaker 1They gave them the first round pick.
Speaker 2Andrew Wiggins was drafted by the Cavs. Andrew Wiggins 2014,. Round one, pick one Out of Kansas. They drafted him and then LeBron's like hey, I'll come there, but you have to trade Andrew Wiggins to go get Kevin Love. That's exactly what happened. But yeah, they drafted him pick one number one, pick overall. And then they drafted him pick one number one, pick it overall. And then they traded him away really quick. He never even played in the Cavs uniform because the broad showed up.
Speaker 1We had no chance, so yeah.
Speaker 2So that's so I just want to make. I just wanted to make that point because everybody is.
Speaker 1So, my real quick. That's a lot of number one overall picks in a row.
Speaker 2Yeah, they suck really bad, but they change. They change the way the picks worked like a little bit after that to where the top three had a 14%. It used to be like the worst team had like 20%. It was like 25%. Yeah.
Speaker 2And then they changed it to where every the bottom three have a 14% chance. But guess what? That gives the middle of the pack a lot better chance than they ever were going to have. But yes, they were getting all those picks when they had 25% chance to get the number one overall pick. And then after that it was after them and after Philadelphia had those years and years on a rail where they just kept losing, to go get number one, try to get the best picks possible, and got Embiid. And then they changed the way they did the percentages out and that's how we've been getting. That's where we're at today.
Speaker 2So yeah, I just wanted to make that point overall and that's why I truly believe that if the NBA wants to have all these teams be just better overall, you have to let the teams have a chance to go get their best player. I just don't think giving a chance for a team like Dallas to go get another potential Hall of Famer. Cooper Flagg is very good. I don't know if he's one of the better college basketball players I've seen in a while real quick.
Speaker 1He was 17 playing against the Olympic team and they said he was busting ass dude. I've seen the video. Yes, he was. He was up against Drew Holiday, the best players in the NBA.
Speaker 2Drew.
Speaker 1Holiday. They had just won the chip. He. I watched this motherfucker shake Drew Holiday, switch on the Anthonyony davis and drain a three. Yeah and walk away and then down court stood a ball from ad. Go down and drain him to the three.
Speaker 2Right these are grown men. That boy was 17, yeah, and he was busting ass and, like he, he was not getting played off the court against grown men and he was smaller than dude. So so that's the thing you need to have these teams be able to have a chance for a guy like that to change their franchise. Whether they're good or badly ran, you have to give them that shot, and I just don't think they're ever going to do that with how they're doing it now. I think they should get rid of it altogether.
Speaker 2Again, it sucks when you have to look at a team and say, going to do it anyway. The teams have already been tanking. People have been talking about Cooper Flagg for two years Like, oh, tank for Cooper Flagg. That's been happening and then those teams didn't have their opportunity to get their player. I don't know, it's a whole thing. This probably went a lot longer than it probably should have gone, but I just had to get that point out because it was something that everybody was talking about. I'm like this is stupid. It it's not.
Speaker 1Everybody hates NBA drafts. Everybody thinks it's awful.
Speaker 2No, there's some people that swear by it and then says, oh, this should be done in the NFL. I'm like nuh-uh. If that should get done in the NFL, I will riot, I will riot Like come on, dude, you're not going to change bad owners by just saying hey just be better.
Speaker 1It's not going to work. You're going to wait for them to die or become the commanders and get sold.
Speaker 2True, be so bad and have the owner be.
Speaker 1And the next year. You were one of the best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 2Have the owner be in scandal and be forced to sell his team.
Speaker 1I hope Jim Brown dies.
Speaker 2Is it Jim Brown? I thought it's a different name. It doesn't really matter.
Speaker 1Don't give a shit. I want you to die, genuinely I want you to die, but I hope to God none of your dickhead sons take over, because they both also suck. They don't like football. Neither of them help you run the Bengals, but your daughter does and she likes football and she has openly said I believe we should pay Trey Anderson. Very good for me.
Speaker 2Okay. So what do you want to talk about first in the? We're going to switch to the nfl now. Do you want to talk about the schedules for the bangles and steelers? Or do you want to talk about the purdy purdy, we'll go purdy. First news the day um brock, purdy signed in, the 49ers agreed to a five-year 265 million dollar deal, and this is what. That includes 181 million dollars guaranteed um so and this is off he has like a one-year contract, so it's a five-year extension.
Speaker 1So he's gonna be there for the next six years.
Speaker 2He literally went from rags to riches yes, again, to a certain degree he deserves to get paid. I'm not saying he doesn't.
Speaker 2Two million less a year but, 53 million dollars a year is insane and and we're gonna go through, we're gonna have this conversation whether not really knowing whether there's funny money on the back end that makes it look better than what it is, because again, that happens all the time. We're not going to talk about that. But 53 million for a guy like again, I've been me, I think me and you have been both maintaining that the Niners are closer to a rebuild than they are going to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1He's a $35 million guy.
Speaker 2And if Brock Purdy is not going to be the—I've made this whole thing before. Would you rather have him or Baker?
Speaker 1What Is that? Even a question.
Speaker 2Baker's only getting paid $30 million. That's crazy. Exactly I'd rather have and again, I've not always been a Baker- fan. I'm a Baker fan, but I have turned into a Baker fan Ever since he went with the Bucks. It's been awesome for him and he's made a resurgence. I've seen the rounds because he's a dickhead.
Speaker 1I'd send him to the Browns because he's a dickhead, true.
Speaker 2And again the Browns suck, so again that's their own.
Speaker 1Yeah, but they beat my Bengals every year At least once Twice my nigga oh yeah.
Speaker 2My first time seeing us beat the NFL at the quarterback position.
Speaker 1Who's number one?
Speaker 2Let me look for you QB salaries. It's probably Mahomes, it's not.
Speaker 1Mahomes they restructured, they didn't restructure.
Speaker 2It's Dak. That's why I didn't remember Maybe he is, it's Dak's getting paid the most right now, mm-hmm Dax's highest QE salaries. We'll just say for 2025, right, sorry, the one I found was overall contracts. Nfl's biggest contract is 25. Dak at 60. Josh Allen at 55. Joe Burrow at 55. Trevor Lawrence at 55. Jordan Love at 55. Tua at 53. And then Jared Goff at 53. So, like this one hasn't been updated with Old boy Purdy, but yeah, purdy sits right above Above.
Speaker 1Jared Goff. Are you taking Jared Goff to go up?
Speaker 2I want to go to the mic there, sorry. I'm kind of tweaking right now.
Speaker 1Are you taking Jared Goff, Jordan Love Love, Tua Tungavello Govlemore, Trevor Lawrence Govlemore, Joe Burrow or Josh Allen? Are you going to take Brock Purdy over any of those guys? All right, so why is Brock Purdy making the same as some of them and $2 million less than two of them?
Speaker 2Yeah, some of them and $2 million less than two of them. Yeah, you're telling me.
Speaker 1Brock Purdy's worth $2 million less a year than Joe Burrow and Josh Allen, and that he's worth equal money to Tua I actually think he might be better than Tua. At their best. No injury issues. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2No injury issues Can run a little better, but their throwing, throwing, I think they have the same weakness. Don't have strong arms in the cold. It can be a little bit sketchy so I think two is a way overpaid too. I wouldn't pay two of the money I agree.
Speaker 1I just see a turn, but I I would take jared golf over him in a minute I would take you in a second. A lot of people jared golf might be a top 10 quarterback currently I think jared golf is, I think he's not. He may not have the crazy upside but I wouldn't pay Trevor Lawrence $53 million a year either.
Speaker 2I wouldn't either. He hasn't done enough.
Speaker 1He hasn't.
Speaker 2But again, I would take Justin Herbert, and I think Trevor Lawrence has done more than Justin Herbert in a uniform. In the NFL. Technically, Trevor Lawrence has done more. He has one more playoff win.
Speaker 1I agree. Right now I don't know.
Speaker 2I would still take Herbert.
Speaker 1I want to say Jerry Herbo's still top five but, bro, you gotta show me something.
Speaker 2It's sketchy after last year when he had that very bad playoff game he threw like five picks. Very bad. He has something to prove, but I would still take Herbert over a lot of those guys ahead of him. But like we're talking, lamar only hit 52. We keep going down. Jalen Hurts is 51.
Speaker 1That's fair.
Speaker 2It's fair for them. But is Purdy better than them?
Speaker 1Purdy's been to a Super Bowl. Lamar will sniff one of those.
Speaker 2But was it because of Purdy, I think they would have gotten there with a lot of guys other than Purdy.
Speaker 1Lamar hasn't gotten there, but the Ravens haven't gotten there because of Lamar. Yeah, go ahead and let that sit. That, yes, but have the.
Speaker 2Ravens Put together anywhere Close to as good of a team as what the Niners Were able to yes, my nigga they were. I don't think so.
Speaker 1They were. They had beat that year. Guess who beat the fuck Out of the Niners, the Ravens. Yes, but they kicked the shit Out of the Niners, kicked the shit Out of the Niners when the Niners made the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2They had a top two defensive end in Nick Bosa. They had a top two tight end. They had a top two running back Actually top one because he was the number one running back that year they had a Debo. Samuel was at his best. He was a top five, top ten receiver. Yeah. They had the number one offensive tackle in the NFL.
Speaker 1The Ravens had a fifth ranked defense. I think they were a third ranked offense in the NFL. The Ravens had a 5th ranked defense and I think they were like a 3rd ranked offense and they lost solely because they were stupid as fuck. Back to back years You're telling me they weren't the best team in the AFC 2 years in a row. Because they were, they were.
Speaker 2They were better than everybody else by far, but they had a very bad not being able to get wide receivers and up until last year they bad not being able to get wide receivers and up until last year they weren't really able to have running backs. They really believed in.
Speaker 1Okay, cool. So what happened last year?
Speaker 2Oh, last year was a totally separate animal. They had one of the top running backs in the NFL.
Speaker 1Also still the best team. They were the best team in the AFC and they still couldn't beat the Chiefs, despite ever being like, yeah, they should easily stop them. Again, yes, after stopping them that year, stopping the Niners that year.
Speaker 2Can I ask a question though? Go ahead, yeah. Who would the Niners have to go through? Because I think the Niners, when they were out in like the before last year, the Niners were pretty much by themselves. It was them and the Eagles, and then everybody else was ass.
Speaker 1The Lions.
Speaker 2Still ascending. I still think the Lions were still having their issues. Talent-wise, the Lions are up there, but I just don't think you can really guarantee for sure they were like I disagree, but all right. The Niners were much better than everybody else in the NFC. It was just what it was. Yeah, and the Ravens were better than everybody else in the AFC. The Ravens botched their own chances yeah, but the Ravens boxed their own chances yeah, but the Ravens still had to deal with the Chiefs. They still had to deal with the Bills.
Speaker 1They still had to deal with you. We were in the playoffs two years ago.
Speaker 2True, but I also think there's other teams you have to deal with in the AFC. There's a lot more good AFC teams than NFC teams.
Speaker 1Okay, not over the last two years.
Speaker 2Over the last two years, the NFC has made a thing, but the Niners haven't made the Super Bowl in two years.
Speaker 1Now there's four good teams in the AFC and the rest of you suck. The rest of you aren't making it out of the first round. That's just what it is the Bills, the Chiefs, the.
Speaker 2Ravens, and number four is kind of a rotational door, because the Bengals can't figure out what the fuck they're doing. No, I agree.
Speaker 1In the last three years all of those teams have made it out of the first round.
Speaker 2Those are great teams. I'm saying there are a lot more good teams than AFC. Those are great teams.
Speaker 1The year the Ravens went to the AFC championship, they lost in the second round. Yeah, they lost to an underpowered Chiefs team.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1Oh, and then last year they lost to an even more underpowered Chiefs team. Mm-hmm. Despite being the best team in the A's.
Speaker 2But again the Chiefs built themselves into having one of the best defense of the NFL those years, again all those things being?
Speaker 1What about you? They lost to the Bengals.
Speaker 2Everything always comes back to the Bengals.
Speaker 1By the defense. The defense won the game. The defense won the game.
Speaker 2Yes, no, no, no.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, logan Wilson knocked the ball out at the goal line and then Sam Hubbard returned the ball for 98 yards.
Speaker 2Yes, I do remember that.
Speaker 1You have two of the fastest players in the NFL and neither of you caught him. No, lamar walked off the field for even I would take Lamar over Again.
Speaker 2this all came because I don't think Purdy is necessarily all that great. I think Purdy is a top 15 guy. I think he really is.
Speaker 1I think Lamar is not as good as Joe Flacco currently because one of them has a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2I'm just saying Right now in we were both on the same level with Purdy, and then I went.
Speaker 1I'm sorry.
Speaker 2I think I went a bridge too far, and then you became.
Speaker 1I'm so sorry. I just think every other AFC quarterback that's not Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes is ass. You can't tell me otherwise. Guess who those two teams guess who the Bills and Ravens lose to. That's not the Chiefs.
Speaker 2You can't blame them for not being the best of the best, Like we're talking.
Speaker 1My nigga. The Bengals are concurrently not the best of the best, yeah, but their quarterback is so what's your guys' excuse for losing to a sub par defense? I know I'm talking bottom five in the league. All years we've beaten you guys Bottom five, my nigga, bottom five.
Speaker 2You know what homes only get paid 45? They're getting a discount.
Speaker 1For now.
Speaker 2It's cheating yeah for now Again, it's the same thing Brady always did. He would always take a lot less money, and then we would build teams around him.
Speaker 1Yeah, and Mahomes was probably starting to do a point like hey, we aren't building a team.
Speaker 2He makes so much money off the field, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. You know what's funny. Joe Burrow gets paid that much and still makes a shit ton of money off of him Again he has to ask for every dime because he can't trust the Bengals to do what they have to do in the back end.
Speaker 1No, that's why he took a five-year deal. Exactly, he didn't want to take a tank because he didn't trust the Bengals.
Speaker 2So, that being the case, and then he had to kind of strong-arm them, they haven't signed Jamar Chase.
Speaker 1Yeah, they did, did they? They signed both of them. Why am I tweaking about that?
Speaker 2Both their contracts came out literally the same day.
Speaker 1I'm so used to the Bengals not doing things that I just feel like you don't know. You said that earlier.
Speaker 2I'm certainly like what is he talking about?
Speaker 1Of course they paid him. I'm so used to everybody being unpaid that this is a new feeling.
Speaker 2But yeah, it was. Just think that, whether we agree with how good or not Purdy is in comparison to the rest of the NFL, I think we could both agree that Purdy is not going to lift the team up by himself to go do more than they ever did, because if that was the case he would have done that last year when the Niners were pretty much bad and their defense started going off the rails. He was bad too. He wasn't a good thing going on with a terrible team. He was bad, along with everybody else on that team, and Sneaky.
Speaker 2They gave the Niners a very easy schedule this year, this upcoming season. So they actually might their record might end up being better than what they actually are because of just how easy their schedule ended up being. But again, we'll get to that at a different point. When we do our, we'll do like whole episodes of just like having one pod be in the AFC and the other be in the NFC. So we will do that. So we'll do the over-unders for the schedules. But I just wanted to talk about the pretty thing, because it's a lot of money.
Speaker 1I saw that I was on the drive-thru to go to Panda Express and I started tweaking the fuck out in the drive-thru. And then I pulled up to the window and I was like, yeah, I want this. This is a lot of money, dude, it's too much money.
Speaker 2It's too much money. They just have so much in flux right now with that team and really their only mainstays now are him Nick. Why am I forgetting the tight end's name now, george? Why am I forgetting the tight end's name now, george Kittle.
Speaker 1George Kittle.
Speaker 2They signed him, so he'll be there for a while. Uh-huh, and Fred Warner, that's Fred Warner, but they'd have nobody else in that defense at all. Like their defense is.
Speaker 1I know, but you only said three guys.
Speaker 2Yes, sorry, that makes five, my bad, no, that makes four. I was thinking, no, it's five Tackled.
Speaker 1He's still there, but he's 36. He's like 38 years old. It's six because of the receiver.
Speaker 2Brandon Ayuk yeah, he's coming off an ACL. You don't know what he's going to be. Joe Burrow's come off one. Joe Burrow can just sit in the pocket and stand there he doesn't, though. A wide receiver has to run fast all the time.
Speaker 1Joe Burrow doesn't do that. You saw it that nigga ran 19 yards.
Speaker 2He does, but he doesn't have to do it all day 36.
Speaker 119 yards Steelers Week 17.
Speaker 2A wide receiver coming off. An ACL is not necessarily the same as a quarterback.
Speaker 1What are you going to say? Adrian Peterson did it twice.
Speaker 2Adrian Peterson is a different animal. My boy, you know, Adrian Peterson has a brother in high school football right now. That's like a top 15 quarterback in all of high school football, your lineage. His dad was like nah, we can make another one. We already have one of the best running backs of all time. Let's try to make a quarterback too.
Speaker 1Y'all think LeVar crazy.
Speaker 2Watch this. I was looking at it the other day because there's a lot of like brothers or sons of former great players that are, like in high school football, ready to go, you, philip uh rivers son gunner yeah this motherfucker can sling a football yeah, um, with the most traditional quarterback motion I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1Yeah, it is over the top. Other fun fact about philip.
Speaker 2You know he has a son and a grandson that are within like six months of each other. His oldest kid is that old. Yeah. His oldest kid's, like in her 20s, and she had a son, so he was talking to somebody that was going to he's like my son's going to be throwing to my grandson, that's crazy Because they're going to be playing high school football at the same time.
Speaker 1That's crazy, because they're going to be playing high school football at the same time.
Speaker 2That's crazy. I'm so excited he's having.
Speaker 1he's just banging them out, because doesn't he have what he's 11?.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's well over 10.
Speaker 1Real quick. They should like John Gruden's at his house.
Speaker 2It was Gruden. That's who he's talking to.
Speaker 1I know, but I was just sitting there looking this nigga's house. He has a 400 yard football field.
Speaker 2Oh, he lives in Alabama. As part of his backyard. There's such thing as being rich. Rich like he is like a billionaire in Alabama with the money he has.
Speaker 2There's nothing out there. Yeah, he can go be a high school football coach for practically free and like, oh, I'm good, I'm chilling, I'm vibing, but yes, he just keeps cranking out kids and just chilling out in alabama, I his poor wife. For what do you mean poor? I'm talking whether she's pushing them out or they keep cutting them out. How is she even together? They rich, they're rich, but like come on philip river's in there like make her better make her bionicle they're just putting them in test tubes at this point, dude I.
Speaker 1They have to be. There's no way I walk cranking out I'm sorry, I don't understand how this 16 year old. It's six foot three, a solid 210, a fucking muscle. He towered john gruden and he's a little I forget. Phillip Rivers is like six foot five. Yeah he's a big guy. He's smaller than his dad but like yeah, he's 16.
Speaker 2What are we?
Speaker 1doing. I kid you not. I watched him throw a football 60 yards.
Speaker 2Yeah, he got Arch going. There's a lot of legacy. Heck, minka Fitzpatrick's brother is about to go play college football, oh yeah. So there's a lot of legacies, type of things. But all right, we'll get off of that and go into our schedules, why not? You want to start with the Bengals or the Steelers? You want to be more negative or positive?
Speaker 3Because again, if it's going to be the Steelers, you'll talk.
Speaker 2So much trash. Oh, bengals, real quick, we'll do Bengals because we'll talk about Hendrickson. No, I want to do Steelers.
Speaker 1I've got some shit to talk. I've got some shit to get off my chest.
Speaker 2Okay, we'll go with the Steelers schedule. Goodness gracious, steelers 2025. And are we doing this as if Rodgers is going to be there or not?
Speaker 1No, we're doing this based on what you got on roster. Okay, mason Rudolph is your starting quarterback.
Speaker 2I'm going to do it as if no, no, he's practically there, he's not signed?
Speaker 1Is he signed?
Speaker 2No, it's a handshake agreement. They already know what they're doing.
Speaker 1Mason Rudolph is your starting quarterback until further notice, when we do all the other teams, and if you do have routers we can revisit. Until further notice so we Okay, fine, yeah, mason, rudolph is your starting quarterback which, honestly, he's not bad.
Speaker 2He's one of the better backups in the NFL. He really is. He's the best backup in the NFL because he can. The best backup in the NFL. That's a hard one. I think you guys have one of the better backups in the NFL too.
Speaker 1Yeah, but we got a good two games out of him and then he is ass happy. We played a playoff game with Mason.
Speaker 2Rudolph, and he wasn't the reason we lost. Okay, that's what I'm saying. The officials wanted to give Josh Allen every flag in the world.
Speaker 1Fake slides and all Mason Rudolph when the. Steelers can have him stay within himself. I see a starting quarterback.
Speaker 2Oh, and, by the way, everybody keeps talking about the Steelers not drafting a quarterback, but I'm like you know, they drafted Will Howard. Right Again, I get it. He's a six-round pick, not the biggest name in the world, even though he won the fucking national championship this past season.
Speaker 1I don't mean shit, come on, I get it.
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Speaker 2But still they're acting as if they didn't draft one at all. We've seen the last pick in the NFL draft. Go and be a guy that gets paid a big contract.
Speaker 1Will Howard has more talent than that guy If you look at a lot of the starting quarterbacks in the NFL draft. A lot of them are first-round picks. No, that is true. You have anomalies like Dak, who was a fifth-round pick, and that nigga's not a pick. Dak was a third-round pick. I don't fucking know. I don't care.
Speaker 2Dak's not good. Dak's not that good, but he's a starter in the NFL.
Speaker 1He's a starter. No one thinks he should be at this point but he's one of them, he's a top 15 quarterback in the NFL. I would start listing names, but we're busy because that's a fucking lie. There's 15 niggas better than him. Guaranteed, guaranteed, garantee. Oh my God, I'm starting to tweak. No way, cause if we go off last year's stats, this nigga's not that good.
Speaker 2Well, he got hurt Middle of last season.
Speaker 1Oh, what about the last season before that? Oh damn, he got hurt again that season?
Speaker 2No, he didn't. Oh, the year before that he played the whole season and they beat Tom Brady. I think, right, no, or was that two seasons ago? That was two seasons ago.
Speaker 1That was almost three. Oh yeah, they don't do shit. That was a minute. Yeah, they're ass.
Speaker 2Dak is ass, he's ass, he's a perennial 4,000-yard passer that chokes in the playoffs Again. That's a lot more than most Guaranteed their first-round exit yeah for sure, or second round. When they beat Tom Brady in the first round, they went and lost to the Packers in the second round.
Speaker 1They went and got bodied by a young and not ready Packers.
Speaker 2Young Jordan Love they were 9-8.
Speaker 1And they absolutely. They made him look stupid. Jordan Love had what? Four touchdowns, no interceptions.
Speaker 2Yeah, like 400 yards. Yes, yes. Oh, wasn't uh digs he was, he was second for dpoi voting. Yeah, straight, body, bag, body. Oh, by the way, one of the funnier things of like, all the schedule announcements, the, the charters, the minecraft one, they, they were, they're gonna play the cowboys and they had a thing where, remember the whole thing with uh, micah parsons and dex, uh, whatever, lawrence that they were not dexter, it's, it's a different lawrence.
Speaker 2They were like fighting when, when Lawrence went to a different team and he's like they'll never win a Super Bowl, and they had that back and forth over social media. Demarcus Lawrence.
Speaker 1Yes.
Speaker 2Demarcus Lawrence went and he said they'll never win a Super Bowl in an interview. That's not even the right name.
Speaker 1You called that nigga Dexter.
Speaker 2No, I said not Dexter. I know, but I couldn't think of the name. I got the last name Gosh. Let me tell a story. They were having that whole fight. They were doing in the schedule announcement, they were doing the back and forth as Minecraft characters. And then last thing was Torch Pickens enters the chat. The funniest thing. Every single thing is so true they're going to crash out together.
Speaker 1Him and michael parsons are gonna crash out. It's gonna be such a. It's gonna be such a problem? I don't think so either, but he's gonna get paid by.
Speaker 2But his past rush win ratio, his past rush win rate, his past rush win rate, he's so quick off the ball. Okay, um, steelers, we'll start with week one. I'll just say win or loss, and then you'll just tell me how wrong I am, for some reason On God. Past preseason Okay, week one at the Jets, we win that game. They're starting with Justin Fields. We've seen him in practice.
Speaker 1I hope to God. He dicks y'all down and is like y'all niggas are retarded.
Speaker 2I've seen some practice film of him throwing Dude, he is comfortable, his passing, his throwing motion is crisp. Hey, real quick. It makes me scared. I'm not going to lie to you, I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 1I see the parallels from when he was at OSU. I was like he's about to smack.
Speaker 2Him and Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 1They are about to smoke some teams and no one is prepared.
Speaker 2I really hope, because you guys are in New York.
Speaker 1I hope to God, because this was the stupidest decision I've ever seen the Steelers make in my life.
Speaker 2They wanted to bring him back. He just got more. He got like 10 more million guaranteed. Exactly Again, good decision by him. Good decision by him.
Speaker 1The fact you had Russell Wilson and everybody was like, yeah, this is fucking dumb.
Speaker 2Put Justin Fields back in. He was winning games. I was saying that all year. Last year he was winning games.
Speaker 1I was in the stadium with these motherfuckers and they're all saying to me we are halfway through the third quarter and they're chanting Justin Fields, yeah. And I'm sitting here thinking I'm like they must do this a lot because this is coordinated.
Speaker 2Yeah, they don't fuck with that motherfucker. They're like if he's not going to throw the football at least.
Speaker 1He was like they haven't thrown the football in nine plays. And I was sitting there I was like they haven't. They threw it up once and it was to pick it to the sideline and that was like the last time they really threw it. Yeah, it was. It was Check down, check down, frymuth, frymuth, frymuth, frymuth.
Speaker 2Had an awesome game. It echoed in the stadium. Oh my God, muth is awesome. But yeah, jets At Jets. I think we beat them week one.
Speaker 1Our defense will be healthy. Tj Watt will go crazy. I want to fault you but I can't. I agree.
Speaker 2That's one you want to write. You want to do. I can't write enough. Of course, there's a lot of pages that are filled up, and now I'm gonna have to get a new notebook at some point but they're not.
Speaker 1It's not every page, and that's pissing me off.
Speaker 2Well, because I want to switch to a new page. I have switched a new page. When we do use front and back I do for the most part, but no you don't?
Speaker 2I just flipped through it, you lying bastard when it's a new podcast, I like to have a new page. Bro, what do you want me to do? But yeah, at new york jets, I think it's a win. I, yes, I am scared Justin Fields, him and Garrett Wilson together are going to destroy everybody, but I just think that we have the corners that should be able to hear. Handle Garrett Wilson, because Garrett Wilson's not a burner, he is a athletic freak, but he's not like a straight line.
Speaker 1What corners we've seen him in college? Shake Joey? No, joey Porter wasn't there yet. Brooke, what corners do you have to cover him?
Speaker 2I think Joey Porter can do it. Garrett Wilson's going to get his. I just think he's not going to go off for 400 yards, joey Porter can't cover Tee Higgins, and Tee Higgins isn't as good as Garrett Wilson. True, but I think Tee Higgins— 105 yards, three touchdowns.
Speaker 1Tee Higgins is 105 yards, three touchdowns. And Garrett. Wilson. I love Tee Higgins to death. Garrett Wilson's that nigga Don't fucking fault him In this. Those 1,000-yard seasons are bullshit. That is a 1,500-yard man right there.
Speaker 2No, he's awesome. You know how much I love Garrett Wilson. Joey Porter is going to have to be named Garrett Wilson Jr.
Speaker 1after this fucking game, don't play with him.
Speaker 2I just think our defensive line will be able to get after the Jets offensive line, which still isn't good. Okay. So I just think we'll be able to do enough. That's it. I think we can win.
Speaker 1You can do enough. Garrett Wilson's left 300 yards.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, he's still going to get his.
Speaker 1Okay, so don't say Joey Porter can cover this, joey Porter can't do that.
Speaker 2I just said hold his own to where they want they still have Brees Hall, though that's another scary player. He is like that. But we did get Derek Harmon, who is very good as a defensive lineman.
Speaker 1Dude, you guys have enough people that can track fucking Peyton Wilson Every play he had on a running play. If he's in on a running play I can accept the running backs getting nothing. Yeah, he tracks running backs down like no other he still has coverage issues.
Speaker 2Him and Patrick Queen, I think are a very good linebacking duo.
Speaker 1I told you when they drafted him, I was like the Steelers need to put him in immediately. And the Steelers put him in immediately.
Speaker 2Let him run.
Speaker 1He faulted Tight ends were getting what they got on him.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, but any running back. But do you remember that great play he made by the end of this? I think it was in the Bengals game. Right, he ended up getting the pick.
Speaker 1It was the tip.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1It's crazy, but he's where he's supposed to be. He's athletic.
Speaker 2God.
Speaker 1I wish the Bengals drafted him, I wanted him so bad?
Speaker 2Very good pick. Third round pick, dude. Yeah, third round pick.
Speaker 1Everybody coming at us like this dude's elite.
Speaker 2Oh, he doesn All right. Week two Seattle. I think we beat Seattle. Seattle doesn't have anything and it's a DK Metcalf revenge game. You don't have to write the whole game, you can just do Tick. I think we beat Seattle DK Metcalf revenge game.
Speaker 1Their defense is pretty okay. They have a good secondary. Sam D pretty okay. They have a good secondary.
Speaker 2Sam Darnold. They sometimes have a good secondary. Sam Darnold doesn't like interior pressure and we will have interior pressure all day on them.
Speaker 1I agree, I think they have poor safety help. I think they have good DBs but no safeties and no linebackers.
Speaker 2Oh, they do have the one guy from South Carolina, but it'll be very early in the season. He's still learning the physical freak from South Carolina.
Speaker 1Oh, yes, yes, yes, that's easy. I think he'll be good.
Speaker 2It'll take him a minute to kind of get acclimated.
Speaker 1I don't think you will get a lot of over the top.
Speaker 2Probably not, but again I think this will be a.
Speaker 1We're going to watch Quenchon Judkins is that who you got? Trevion Henderson.
Speaker 2No, the running back. Oh, we got the guy from Iowa. You didn't get one of the Ohio State guys.
Speaker 1No, my bad the.
Speaker 2Browns got Judkins and the Patriots got Travion.
Speaker 1We're going to watch a lot of running.
Speaker 2Oh no, johnson, caleb Johnson is the running back we picked up from.
Speaker 1Iowa. He is very good. Sorry, we're going to watch a lot of running in this game because they do not have a good D-.
Speaker 2Somebody made this perfect thing Caleb Johnson. He reminds me of Najee, but somebody said that Caleb Johnson runs like Najee, but Najee runs like he has pants on, like jeans, and Caleb does not, which is how he does run fast.
Speaker 1I'm like you know what that kind of makes sense he has jeans on.
Speaker 2He runs like he has jeans on.
Speaker 1It takes one second to warm up and get used to it, it's so true.
Speaker 2So true, but yeah, I think we beat Seattle week two. I agree.
Speaker 1Week three I had something to say.
Speaker 2Jameer Gibbs reminds me of Le'Veon Bell. He's very shifty.
Speaker 1He's not the patient runner that Le'Veon was. No one's a patient runner like that Le'Veon was. I watched this motherfucker wait behind a line as he's getting legit. I see him go.
Speaker 2He's like a boxer finding his opening and then he just pops out the back end 2014,.
Speaker 1I remember this motherfucker legit, stops behind Pouncey his center and goes like this. It was the most unique. I've never seen it again, I, kind of think.
Speaker 2it's very hard to do, I think, because Pouncey had to be the center that was having the whole offensive line do its thing, it was a dance.
Speaker 1It was a little like a ballet. I've seen so many games where he has stopped behind Pouncey to find a hole. They would blitz the fuck out of him and he is just sitting Like there's no worry in the world you wait all day and then find a hole and then pick one.
Speaker 2It was a very unique running style.
Speaker 1I have never seen it.
Speaker 2That is one of the biggest travesties that when we had the three Bs Big Ben, antonio Brown and Le'Veon Bell that we did not win a championship.
Speaker 1That was our biggest problem. It didn't help. Le'veon left for money.
Speaker 2True. If he would have said it would have been much better, because he wasn't injury prone but we had four or five years worth of playing with Le'Veon Bell and Antonio Brown at his best.
Speaker 1What did they call you guys?
Speaker 2The three B's.
Speaker 1No, your defense was called the killer B's.
Speaker 2No, those were the three B's, the killer B's.
Speaker 1Is that what it is?
Speaker 2Yeah, Fuck, yeah, they're the killer bees, but again, our defense was trash then. Imagine if we had the defense we had now and the offense we had then we could have won a Super Bowl. But you know, it's not how that works. But yes, I think we win game two. Game three New England Patriots. Ooh. At New England. I think if this game was later on in the season.
Speaker 1I think we would have a your ass.
Speaker 2They still have a rookie offensive tackle that will have to deal with TJ Watt and Alex Highsmith and all the other guys we have. I think okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1Damn, this is a good fucking game.
Speaker 2The Patriots will be better late than they are, early for sure, but their defense is still bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1They're still trying to figure out their defense at this point in the season. I think, dude, I think you catch them in week seven and it's a different fucking game.
Speaker 2I agree. I do this is a win. Drake May will be a lot better. I really do think Drake.
Speaker 1May will have a win. This is a win. This is another game. You're not getting much over the top. Christian Gonzalez is going to lock the fuck out of DK Metcalf. Yeah. No one can say Chris Gonzalez is very, very good.
Speaker 2No one talked about it.
Speaker 1He held Jamar Chase to nothing.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's awesome, straight up nothing. That was one guy I wish the Steelers would have drafted, because we traded back with the Patriots and let the Patriots get him. We should have taken him.
Speaker 1That would have been so awesome, I agree.
Speaker 3I've seen many things in my life If we had him and Joey Porter Jr as our cornerbacks, we would destroy everybody.
Speaker 1Dude Jamar Chase was not stopped by anybody last year, week one against Chris Gonzalez, where he ended up with two receptions. Yeah, two yards.
Speaker 2He is a mano y mano. Give me that guy, I will take him away.
Speaker 1He is one of the only corners in the league. He is a man to man. Fuck a safety. Yeah, I don't need him. Yeah, but this is a win. Yeah, I'll give you that.
Speaker 2Week four. This game is in Ireland, playing Minnesota, the Minnesota Vikings. I think we win that game too, unfortunately.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Because the more games we win early and we'll think that, oh, we have a chance to really do something, and then it'll be over by the end of the season they're running a rookie quarterback.
Speaker 1I don't think a rookie like Jason McCarthy ain't that good Even if he is good.
Speaker 2I don't think he'll be good in week four. He's not. I don't think he'll be good in week four. He's not.
Speaker 1I don't think so either. He'll look good.
Speaker 2Best case scenario. I don't think even at his. He won't look his best in week four. I don't know.
Speaker 1He's Purdy. He's going to look. He's Brock Purdy. He has a great offense around him.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Great running back, good O-line.
Speaker 2Great receivers.
Speaker 1He's going to look so good, y'all going to give him $58 million a year and everybody's going to be like why the fuck did you do that? Yeah, yeah, he's not that good.
Speaker 2I think we win week four, four. Now Week five bye. Absolutely dog shit. It's going to suck. I hate having such an early bye. It's awful we beat the Browns. We're not sure what the Browns like quarterback situation is going to be.
Speaker 1It's going to be, shador, stop playing.
Speaker 2By week six potentially. I'm not going to lie. I would love if it was Kenny Pickett. It'd be so fun Real quick.
Speaker 1They're going to keep Shador's going to start. I think Gabriel's going to be the backup. No, Shador's going to start.
Speaker 2Flacco will be the backup. I think Flacco will start the season. I don't. I think so.
Speaker 1I'm sorry. I saw the Guardians the other night doing Shador's celebration on first base. You're lying, you're lying. The city of Cleveland wants Shador.
Speaker 2I know.
Speaker 1Real quick. I feel bad for Dylan Gabriel. You have no shot. I feel bad for Dylan Gabriel. You have no shot. Yeah, You're stuck. What Deshaun Watson is?
Speaker 2he's an all-pro quarterback and they're not going to cut him because he was a third-round pick.
Speaker 1You're stuck here dude, and you will never start. Unfortunately, you will not start.
Speaker 2Let's be honest. Dylan Gabriel should have been a fifth, sixth-round draft pick. I agree he should just be happy he got the money he got Again you are on a team, you have no shot to start on. Yeah, no chance.
Speaker 1Shador's better than you. Watson is probably not better than you right now, but at one point he was that guy you don't throw out, watson. He has a ruptured Achilles, so it's over, joe Flacco you could probably beat him and I'm going to be honest, you have to be getting better than Kenny Pickett. I sure hope so. Real quick, would you think? There's two Super Bowl winners on that team, and one of them is Joe Flacco and the other one is Kenny Pickett Crazy.
Speaker 2Insane Crazy. He has a ring, he has a ring. Next game. Week seven Bengals at the Bengals. This is probably the game we'll be at. So well, it's a loss. Obviously, this is in Cincinnati. I always default to you.
Speaker 1Win one, we win one you think you can split us after we come off, a bye Again.
Speaker 2this is a game you guys have at home, so this should be the game you do win, Agreed, but again you think we split after we're coming off a bye.
Speaker 1In week 11, you played how many games straight by then? Yeah it would have been one, two, three, four, five, six.
Speaker 2We're coming off a bye. We have five games in a row.
Speaker 1We are well-rested, I know. But again off playing the Bears.
Speaker 2Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1Smoke City. Brody Shut up. You can't Truly in most years I agree with you. We're probably going to split In this year, I don't know, gang.
Speaker 2You know it's not a guarantee. Again, it's the fact we're coming off a bye.
Speaker 1If we weren't, then yeah, I can see a split, but we're coming off a bye, coming your house after.
Speaker 2Who do you play before us? Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1Who do you play before?
Speaker 2us, the Browns.
Speaker 1No, no, no, We'll continue on the schedule, okay.
Speaker 2Next game Again, they're trying to get Olave.
Speaker 1I hope they get Olave because it will change my outlook on my season. Stop fucking lying. You guys got to trade your first round pick for that.
Speaker 2They're in cap health, they'll never be able to sign him.
Speaker 1I know so they will.
Speaker 2I think they'll trade him for a second round pick.
Speaker 1Maybe I accepted his fifth year option on Madden and it sent me so much debt that I about I've been contemplating trading Chris Olave, but that nigga's so good we have 12 picks for next year's draft.
Speaker 2Maybe we give him like a third, a fourth and a fifth. Call it a day. Next game Green Bay Packers. Ow, this is not in Green Bay, does not fucking matter. Okay, I think again. You're saying as if we don't have Rodgers. I do think he'll be a Rodgers game. Oh yeah, no Rodgers. You're saying as if I've been doing it, as if we're going to have Rodgers.
Speaker 1No, no, that's not what we agreed to Real quick. If you don't have Rodgers, we're going to go back.
Speaker 2No, we don't.
Speaker 1We've got to go back? No, we don't. We got to go back. What game, rudolph, those two interceptions against Seattle?
Speaker 2No, he doesn't Stop it. Seattle's not that good.
Speaker 1Seattle has two good DBs who are both top 10 DBs.
Speaker 2How many interceptions will Sam Darnold throw?
Speaker 1Doesn't matter.
Speaker 2None, your DBs are ass. Who is Sam Darnold throwing to on that team other than JSN? Who the fuck?
Speaker 1else does he need to throw to? Y'all need to put three niggas on that guy, three motherfuckers on him. Because, let's be honest, if Joey Porter can't guard Garrett Wilson, joey Porter for sure can't guard JSN. We know that for a fact, that nigga can't guard JSN. If we're gonna be, honest.
Speaker 2JSN does not the same straight line speed as Jamar Chase. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1You look at me right now. Look me in the face. Joey Porter can guard JSN.
Speaker 2You don't believe me. Jsn will be playing in the slot a lot, so Joey Porter would never guard him.
Speaker 1Oh, who's your slot DB? Because pray for that man. He has a family and they have to watch this on TV Because Patrick Queen ain't fast enough, Peyton Wilson ain't fast enough. Peyton Wilson actually might be fast enough.
Speaker 2He's a second year middle linebacker. He can't come up. Jsn is elite when it comes to short area quickness.
Speaker 1Garrett Wilson may have 300. Jsn will have 8,000. You are fucked. Week two, bro. You are fucked.
Speaker 2No ball.
Speaker 1They better run the ball 48,000 times, gang I think Caleb Johnson will be very good this year.
Speaker 2Okay, that's great.
Speaker 1They better run the ball every single time, because if they throw, those DBs have played against. If you're making me, sick. Look at me. Those DBs have played against DK Metcalf. They know what he's going to do. Run real hard, fuck it straight. Dk know what he's going to do. Run real hard, fuck it straight. He don't DK.
Speaker 2Metcalf don't run routes, don't ball up, I go get it. He does more than Pickens. He does more than Pickens, he just tries harder than.
Speaker 1Pickens. They run the same routes Straight and up. That is all they do.
Speaker 2If you're making me stick with Rudolph, my everything doesn't change. I think Green Bay has a loss, though.
Speaker 1Dude, if y'all try to throw the ball against Seattle at all, you're fucked.
Speaker 2You know that right, that's early enough in the season. My defense will still be 100%. We'll be fine.
Speaker 1It won't stop. Jay is in.
Speaker 2It will not stop him yeah, but if TJ is getting after old Sam Darnold, who doesn't like pressure, he's in the slot. The TJ is getting after old Sam Darnold, who doesn't like pressure, he's in the slot. The routes are quick. It doesn't matter that offensive line sucks. It's been bad for years, fuck it.
Speaker 1They can hand the ball off to him. My nigga, if he touches the ball, the game is over. He's scoring If he touches that ball.
Speaker 2you understand that right, it's a dub. Stop fighting this, come on.
Speaker 1Jackson, smith and Jigba is probably this year going to be the third best receiver in the NFL. I will stick to that shit.
Speaker 2I fucking believe that you don't know how much I love hearing you talk good about Ohio State receivers.
Speaker 1Dude, they're good, I can't fault you. Jayden Reed is good. He's on the Packers. No one knows who their number one receiver really is, but last year it was him. Okay, no one knows who the fuck it is. They have seven receivers on roster.
Speaker 2None of the receivers can figure it out either. They're like, oh, maybe it's me this week, and the next guy, oh, maybe it's me, they have seven receivers on the roster who are viable receivers.
Speaker 1And they just took a first-round receiver and then a second-round, and then like a fifth-round, receiver, dude, no matter what it is.
Speaker 2Old boy Brian Hartline does his thing. They do two things.
Speaker 1They produce good defensive ends. Yeah, Always produce a decent center. The Bengals have drafted two of them. I'm just saying Great defensive players all around honestly and they will guarantee give you a wide receiver. They may not always be the greatest wide receiver, but they'll be a viable wide receiver.
Speaker 2Ever since Brian Hartline came to the helm. It receiver, but they'll be a viable wide receiver.
Speaker 1Ever since Brian Hartline came to the helm, it's been pretty much guaranteed they're not all going to be first-round pick-worthy.
Speaker 2But they're viable receivers.
Speaker 1No, not all of them have. You have more receivers that go to the NFL, my nigga. Just because the big names are there doesn't mean you don't have other guys.
Speaker 2Yeah, but all the Brian Hartline guys have been number one.
Speaker 1You've had other Brian Hartline guys that haven't been.
Speaker 2All been first round picks bro, Goddamn that name's crazy. All of them. Who is this?
Speaker 1nigga. Who is he? He's a fazant.
Speaker 2Think about it Michael Thomas was before Brian Hartline came in. Michael Thomas was that boy. I think Brian Hartline was an assistant coach. He wasn't the actual wide receiver coach at that point. But after him I guess the only scary Terry wasn't a first-round pick, he was a second-round pick. But again, that wasn't even Brian Hartline's guy. Brian Hartline fit.
Speaker 1Look, Ohio State receivers are good. They have that going for them, but they're all good. So look Garrett Wilson and Chris Olava said he's better than us.
Speaker 2Yeah, I know, and I'm going to be honest. He finally started looking like it when they started giving him the ball. So, you need to understand. It's still a win for the Steelers, but he's going to get his yeah but it's not. Stop trying to convince me. It's Steelers' win. Steelers' win when he jumps over Joey Porter and runs away. That's the one thing you won't do is jump over Joey Porter Jr. That's fine.
Speaker 1Joey Porter has like four inches on that man.
Speaker 2That's Whoa. Yeah, jsn is like maybe six feet, like he's a.
Speaker 1He's a Look at that Jerk line.
Speaker 2JSN, jsn, jsn. Pro floor reference. It was right there he's six foot, is he? Really yeah, he's only six foot.
Speaker 1He's on the smaller side why don't nfl players look so big? I'm like I'm big yeah, he's six foot.
Speaker 2He's on the smaller side, like he's like one of the smaller ones matter.
Speaker 1Jerry porter is five yards behind him.
Speaker 2Because jerry porter is slow like I said, he'll never actually guard one-on-one. He's in the slot. Then you should pray for your middle of the field dude. Okay, can we get back to schedule, bro? We're on week eight with the Packers where I said it's a loss. That's two losses in a row. Oh, you bet, I can't wait to get to the Bengals schedule. I can't wait, I'm going to fight, just like you. Yes, I can 4700 455 touchdowns. I'm going to fight like this.
Speaker 1I'm going to make it hard.
Speaker 2Week 9 Colts. Colts don't know who their quarterback is. That's a win, unfortunately. Again, I do this, even though I want to lose. I want to have a good draft pick to get a quarterback.
Speaker 1Your schedule's hot garbage Dude. I'm not going to lie to you. It's not crazy hard the teams that aren't the AFC North teams are ass.
Speaker 2The start of the year is pretty manageable. I know yes for sure. And again, we're not saying no. Rodgers Week, Week 10, Chargers at the Chargers will probably. The Chargers don't have a home crowd. The Steelers will take over that place. This is a lost stop for them, dude. Okay, we beat them last year with even worse quarterback. They were just figuring it out. Week 11, bengals I say we win that game, I say it's a loss. We split, we split.
Speaker 1Okay, real quick. Honestly, do you believe it's a split? Yes, Coming off a bye.
Speaker 2Again, it'll be a, or are you just?
Speaker 1sticking to your morals of, hey, we split every game, because, let's be honest, dude, I don't believe it's a split this year. Truly, every year I say it's not going to be a split. We're going to beat you twice, yeah, cool.
Speaker 2Truly, I don't believe it's going to be a split based on your team's going to be tired, maybe, but again, they just love coming into this game where they should be the underdog, and they come in to play. I agree, I'm not saying it won't be a hard-fought game.
Speaker 1I'm just saying, if there's any time that the Bengals would win both, it'd be this year.
Speaker 2Again, I wouldn't be surprised, I really wouldn't. I really wouldn't be surprised, I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 1It's going to be a hard-fought game. You guys could be fucking three and nine right now and it'd still be a hard-fought game. Yeah, but Bengals coming off a bye, that's rough.
Speaker 2I'm saying win, but I really totally understand what you're saying and I understand what you're saying it's going to be a hard-fought game.
Speaker 1Yeah, I don't think I can spell Bengals, we'll continue Week 12 at the Bears.
Speaker 2I think we beat the Bears. Did you hear the thing about Caleb?
Speaker 1I don't care, I don't care, I don't think he's good, his daddy was trying so hard for him not to go to the Bears. It's insane. It depends on how the Bears are looking. I think the Bears Microphone. I think that, sorry, I like.
Speaker 2I know You're reading something. At the same time, I think the Bears could be good this year.
Speaker 1I know they could be so if we revisit this later. Yeah, I know Can you revisit this, like just after preseason.
Speaker 2Yeah, to.
Speaker 1After preseason yeah.
Speaker 2They have a new coach, because with Ben, Johnson, it may be very different compared to last year, I know, I know, and Caleb will make a jump, hopefully Again, just based off having good offensive coaching he will be better.
Speaker 1I'm not saying he'll be a superstar. Based on what we saw last year, I will give the Steelers the win, but based on what we may see in preseason, this may be a straight loss.
Speaker 2Yeah, Again by this point I hope, whether Rodgers comes or not, I hope Will Howard's in there and we'll figure it out if it's him or not. Week 13, Buffalo we lose, Guaranteed.
Speaker 1This is where it gets bad Trash-ass nigga.
Speaker 2Week 14, at Baltimore, we lose this might be a little bit of a reprieve Miami Dolphins coming to Pittsburgh in the middle of December. That's a win. Guaranteed Middle of December. They're screwed. Week 16 at Detroit we lose. Week 17 at Cleveland I think we lose. To who? They beat us with Jameis last year.
Speaker 1That's famous Jameis baby Again this is in Cleveland.
Speaker 2This is in December. We've done this the last three years. We've played good in the first half of the year. Second half, we start playing like ass, barely get into the playoffs, losing the first round. That's our season. That's how it's going to go With Aaron Rodgers or not, it's how it's going to go. And then that's week 17. Week 18, baltimore Blues again, but you split the Bengals. Yeah, what, nicky? What the fuck? The Ravens?
Speaker 1have a defense. Oh wow, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2They can't beat the Bengals Ravens have a defense.
Speaker 1I'm going to kick your ass. I'm tweaking, I'm tweaking.
Trey Hendrickson Contract Situation
Speaker 2I'm tweaking. Where does that have us at? I haven't even been keeping count, I've just been saying win or loss. I'm going to guess nine and eight, maybe ten and seven, you know. It's crazy is that it may only be like a one or two game difference spell. Bengals B-E-N-G-A-L-S. You don't know how to spell your team's name it's B-E-N-G. A-l-s Bengals, it's b-e-n-g-a-l-s bengals, bengals. It's not that hard, my boy that looks right ah, no, a b-e-n-g-a-l-s I was spelling you spelled it with an a instead of an E. There's no A at all.
Speaker 2Yeah, there is.
Speaker 1I was not. Oh okay, you had no A at all.
Speaker 2B-E-N-G-L-S. Oh okay, I gotcha, I gotcha.
Speaker 1Bingles. I haven't spelled it like Bingles. It's okay, I can't spell.
Speaker 2But yes, like I was about to say, even with Aaron Rodgers, that only changes by one or two games.
Speaker 1Yeah, see, we say 9-8, but you'll really go 11-6.
Speaker 2Yeah, I know We'll go 11-6. We'll go 10-7, make the playoffs, have pick 20, not be able to get a quarterback next year.
Speaker 1That's how it's going to work for me every year. Pick 20, pick another O-lineman.
Speaker 2Guaranteed.
Speaker 1Guaranteed.
Speaker 2Go back to the cycle. My only hope is that we have more draft picks and we can trade up.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2That's my only hope. That's a decent hope, my only hope.
Speaker 1In reality you'll be 10 and something, or they'll go get Chris Olave or one receivers like tying.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, you guys like tying a lot, you tie often. Yeah, that's weird, sorry, and that was in. This will just say, well, before we get to the bangles. That was like the hard part about the. I thought you tied the browns last year no we lost the year before we lost the browns in overtime. That was in the snow globe game.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, sorry, seeing ties is weird, it is weird um, but this, that was the hard part about the Chargers schedule release because they did the whole thing with them either choosing future or win now, and like they have them on two different railroads in Minecraft and then the Steelers both the quarterbacks end up going into the lava with Aaron Rodgers looking over it. So it was a funny thing, but it was true. I'm like that's hurtful, but it's true, that's how that goes. But yeah, I just think even with Aaron Rodgers it only changes by one or two games. We'll win too much, make the playoffs, barely lose in the first round.
Speaker 2That's our season, that's how it's been and I'm not sure if that's ever going to change. It probably won't. But you know what's funny? I had this one little spare thought that if I truly ever wanted to change one day twitch teams, just to like totally change my allegiance, do you know who my number, if you had, if you didn't know anything, who do you think would be my number one team I would go to if I had to, if I switched right now?
Speaker 2at random, like you have one I, you know I would have a number one pick that would text you huh, texans, yeah, yeah again. I could be a steelers fan the rest of my life, but if I see cj win a couple street rules, I wouldn't care. I love him so much. Like again. You had joe burrow because of what he is in the pros. I had a cj because I've like, I've been attached to him.
Speaker 1I've ine on my team Ever since he was a high schooler. I believed in him. Does that count? Peyton Thorne? No, you hated him, I know, I saw a video of him throwing on my Instagram, about to throw up.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, he is on the Bengals now. Yeah, he's my second string quarterback.
Speaker 1Yeah, third, no, he's the second string quarterback.
Speaker 2No, you saw, the one guy is one of the best backups in the league. He was. No, he's still on your team, he is. Then he'd be third, third string, then no, jake browning's a third string jake browning's on a third street. He's not your third string quarterback, he's your second okay maybe it was a switch. Maybe it was like like Inside Out Day, where it's like no opposite day, no, Peyton Thorne.
Speaker 1He's been working with the twos, but yeah, but so has no Brownie's been working with the threes. Oh, boy.
Speaker 2Okay, I hope you're wrong Because real quick, trent Irwin's a three. I hope you're wrong because that doesn't make sense to me. Trent Irwin has a number.
Speaker 1He played a lot of. Yoshi Voss is a two, yeah, but Trent Irwin played a lot too for the Bengals. Yoshi Voss is the two and then Burton is the other two, Trent Irwin's the three. We got a lot of receivers gang. All of them pretty decent. Yoshi Voss is pretty good. I really like Yoshi Voss.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1He's a great Red Zone player.
Speaker 2He should have been your number two receiver, but apparently Joe Burrow can't get rid of his guys.
Speaker 1Yoshi was pretty good, Real quick. He's a great third down guy, red zone threat, and then Trent Irwin's the same thing.
Speaker 2Obviously his importance comes up, as he is an awesome number three. As a number two, he's probably not as good, but the fact that you get to keep him as a number three and then maybe. Trent Irwin never gets to see the field. I know.
Speaker 1But him and Burton you can kind of just keep swapping them. Burton was kind of ass last year. He was hurt for the most of summer last year. I guess. But that, and he's the one that had the allegations- oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, he, oh, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's back in practice, not a clean off season for that guy. Real quick At all they drafted Mixon and it was video proof.
Speaker 2Just saying that is true, though.
Speaker 1Real quick. That's so true. There was an edit of Mixon. The clapping part was the video proof and I was like that's crazy, Real quick. I had never seen that video. I was like we drafted him after that. Yeah, Second round he played a whole college football season.
Speaker 2After that Dude Insane, he cleaned her block bro.
Speaker 1It was over. You said her head went back Real quick. I saw the edit I was like no way, that's real.
Speaker 2Looked the video up, watched it.
Speaker 1It's so real. I was like, hey, lights out, yeah, crazy work. You played another football season and got drafted in the second round.
Speaker 2Yeah, Insane, insane. All right, get to the Bengals here. We'll start Hendrickson first. I think he did. He did the whole press conference right next to the practice field. Pretty much talk about how hey, hey, they're not talking to me. I feel like I've done everything I can do and now he has to be loud. Now he has to do everything. Now he has to be a diva about it.
Speaker 1He's done everything right and he's done it. So well spoken, kindly, he's tried what he was supposed to be doing. Yeah, that I understand what he did. I don be doing that. I understand what he did. I don't fault him for it. You have to do it with an organization like this.
Speaker 2Yes, especially not willing to talk to you. If they were willing to come to the table and talk, then that's one thing.
Speaker 1But they're not willing to talk to him. They're not willing to talk to you about a deal. They're not willing to trade you. I understand.
Speaker 2But this is where my downside comes in, and I've I've been a hendrickson fan. I've all you mean you've had plenty of arguments about where he sits in the pantheon. Of all the, all the defensive ends going on right now even with him even with him leading the league in sacks last year. Okay, I'm not having that conversation right now why he's not too, why I'm not having that conversation right now? Why he's not too?
Speaker 2Why? I think maybe to a certain extent he takes advantage of teams not treating him like they should. He doesn't look like a TJ Watt. He doesn't look like a Miles Garrett he Watt. He doesn't look like a Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1He stays in one spot on the O-line. He does I can name two guys that don't do that. Ooh crazy, isn't it?
Speaker 2No, TJ Watt doesn't move from right to left.
Speaker 1No, Micah Parsons didn't.
Speaker 2I don't have Micah Parsons that high.
Speaker 1Again, he's better than me.
Speaker 2I've said Henderson is a top five defenseman in the NFL.
Speaker 1Motherfucker, his name Miles Garrett.
Speaker 2Yeah, they have Miles Garrett going in the middle Again. I've never treated Miles Garrett as at high, actually, you know what, now that I'm thinking about? It yeah, okay so.
Speaker 1I have Henderson. Where's Miles Garrett Henderson stays on the left side. He takes on the best. O-linemen. Tj Watt, don't do that shit. Trey Hendrickson stays on the left side. Trey Hendrickson is our only defensive end. Sam Hubbard was hurt last year, so he was doubled and triple teamed all last year too. So when does he get his respect? He gets the same treatment. Now I haven't.
Speaker 2Your reasoning is bullshit. I haven't in the top five. Okay, who's in?
Speaker 1that top five TJ? Okay, that's the one dude, nick. He was better than him last year and the year before that and the year before that. Crazy. What the fuck are you talking about? Okay, go ahead, keep going. What the fuck are?
Speaker 2you talking about Okay, go ahead, keep going. I have Nick up there, hendrickson's up there, yeah, and then we get to the Garrett. Better than him.
Speaker 1Here's another one, max Crosby. Max Crosby, yes, way better than him.
Speaker 2Again. Max Crosby should not have gotten paid the money he got paid, okay, so time out. But you know he's holding that. Is that the?
Speaker 1order, if I could just ask. In the order. Yeah, why is Nick Bosa number two? Give me a reasoning and I'll tell you why it's false. Is Nick Bosa as good as TJ Watt? Statistically no.
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1And Nick Bosa's on arguably a better defense Okay. No. Tj Watt on arguably a better defense Okay.
Speaker 2No, tj Watt's on a better defense.
Speaker 1Oh you're right, they're both on good defenses, though right. Yeah, Okay. So what is Trey Hendrickson on?
Speaker 2A terrible defense.
Speaker 1Oh, he had the most sacks in the NFL last year.
Speaker 2Yes, he did.
Speaker 1He had also an interception and two fumble recoveries. One more fumble recovery than TJ Watt. My bad, he had one interception Because TJ had two. Yeah, tj Watt was the best defenseman last year, right.
Speaker 2No, he wasn't. He had a down year last year. I can agree to that Because Trey Hendrickson had the most sacks.
Speaker 1Yeah, okay, so last year Trey Hendrickson was the best right, yeah, trey Hendrickson had 20 and a half, and TJ Watt tied the record For both sacks.
Speaker 1And Trey Hendrickson Was one off of him and he had every other stat. Trey Hendrickson was better. He doesn't have as many sacks he had TJ Watt had Three interceptions how the fuck that nigga do that? He didn't have those. But he had more fumble Recoveries, more tackles. Every other step was at the sacks. But he had 20 and a half and the year before, if I just need a jog memory, he had 19 and Tito had 20. Go ahead, look it up, nigga what was this?
Speaker 2what year was this?
Speaker 120 just look up their fucking stat lines.
Speaker 2Bitch fuck the Bengals shit no, we're gonna get to their. Just look up their fucking stat lines bitch, fuck the Bengals' shit.
Speaker 1No, we're going to get to their schedule. My nigga was DPOY last year and he was who got it last year they gave it to Garrett.
Speaker 2Yeah, nope, no, no, nope, they did not. They gave it to Patrick Sertain.
Speaker 1Yes, they did. Yes, Patrick's got no votes what the fuck.
Speaker 2TJ and then compare to T-R-E-Y.
Speaker 1Fuck niggas. Yes.
Speaker 2Hendrickson compare. Oh, I should have done 2024. Now it's on me.
Speaker 1God damn it. You fuck, fuck, ass give me a second god trui I. I know how to spell his name, you just spelled it wrong because I can't type, compare god let me see this shit you need to have the microphone near your mouth.
Speaker 2They both played 17 games. Uh-huh, you had six more sacks, yes, 17.
Speaker 1Solo tackles 33. Force fumbles two Fumble recovery none Cool oh what did TJ have?
Speaker 2Oh, he had six two Cool 40 solo tackles seven more than Hendrickson yeah. He had six forced fumbles, yeah, four more than Hendrickson yeah. And then two fumble recovers, which is two more than.
Speaker 1Hendrickson zero. That's crazy. Who else is on his defense? Oh that's crazy. That's crazy. There's 30 other niggas on his defense. Who's the second best player on the Bengals' defense? Mind you.
Speaker 2Logan Wilson has been hurt since week nine of last year.
Speaker 1Logan Wilson the second most sacked.
Speaker 2I'm questioning whether it's your safety.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, real quick. Guess how many sacks the Bengals had last year.
Speaker 2I don't know 23. 23.
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Speaker 1He was more than half of them. Logan Wilson had four. Guess how much that amounts to 21. Guess who had the other two sacks.
Speaker 2Your slot corner right.
Speaker 1Mike Hilton yeah, oh, okay, other two sacks your your your slot corner right.
Speaker 2Mike hilton, yeah, oh, okay. So who's on the steelers defense?
Speaker 1I get sex. Yeah, it's tj. It's cam hayward, nick herbig, her big, the rest of the niggas nick herbig, alex ismith. He didn't play both you had like, I think like 60 last year Y'all were, they had 23. He was more than half, he was more than 75% of the sacks.
Speaker 2Real quick.
Speaker 1His defense is worse. He is getting doubled and triple teamed every single snap. He has no defensive tackles.
Speaker 2He doesn't have another end.
Speaker 1Yes, okay, so he's on a worse defense. He gets more attention and has better stats. If not comparable stats, let's compare these niggas for every year.
Speaker 2What's their ages?
Speaker 1Trey Hendricks is older.
Speaker 2Okay, fine, I think TJ Watt's 30 or 31. Or he's 29,. One of the two 30.
Speaker 1They're right around the same age.
Speaker 2Okay. So this is my question While you're going to look up all their stats to compare them, I have made the case that even for me, as much as I love TJ Watt that paying him what Crosby got paid $35 million a year might be too much at this stage of their career. And Crosby is like 20. He's like considerably younger. Do you? While you're looking this up, do you think that he's looking for top of the market money? Would you give Hendricks in that? What you think of him aside, what I think of him aside, would you give him that money?
Speaker 1I don't think he wants that.
Speaker 2No, because he said, because they asked him that interview. One of his quotes is that I'm not going to apologize for what the market for defensive ends are.
Speaker 1Is that money too much for TJ Watt right now? Because you want to go down, you want to trade him? I just think we haven't. It's actually too much for TJ Watt, because that is more than enough for TJ Watt. He is a co-owner of the SAF record.
Speaker 2No, I'm not saying TJ Watt is not worth that money.
Speaker 1I'm saying where the Steelers are at right now. You're not going to pay him. Where the Bengals are at right now, he is everything.
Speaker 2And that's where the difference is.
Speaker 1I think the Bengals with Hendrickson, if they— you want to tank and get rid of TJ Watt because he makes your team too fucking good? Yeah, Because without TJ Watt you guys are hot ass. And Cam Hayward's on his last legs.
Speaker 2And I. They're only giving them more defensive picks to that not to be the case.
Speaker 1Yes, I feel bad saying that about Cam Hayward, because he was so good last year and it's hard to tell if he's done or not. I wish he will be he's so good. But, again TJ Watt without him on the field there is a sheer difference? Yeah, for sure. So he makes you too good.
Speaker 2Trey Hendrickson is the only reason why we have wins, and that's where I think the difference is between where I'm at and where you're at is that with, even with, because of our quarterback situation, we won't. I don't think we'll ever have a Super Bowl winning ceiling right. I think the Bengals, if they had a better defense along with Trey Hendrickson, can go win a Super Bowl. That's where I I think the difference is is what makes him paying that guy that type of money worth it in a way that, even with TJ Watt paying him the money he's going to want to get paid because of our issues at quarterback, I don't think we're going to go win a Super Bowl, even with as great as.
Speaker 1TJ Watt is yeah, type shit, which is why I think change is the way I think about the whole thing. Yeah, type shit. Regardless of what you say, trey Hendrickson has one more playoff game.
Speaker 2Trey Hendrickson has one more playoff game. Yeah, I know, I'm aware, I'm aware, I'm aware.
Speaker 1Here's their total sack totals. He was on, Trey Hendrickson was on the Saints for a long time. But let's just I'll just pull up the stats real quick, Because everybody needs to stop disrespecting the man.
Speaker 2You just have them compare. Where is it at it?
Speaker 1doesn't give everything, it gives their careers. Oh, he was on the Saints for four years. Okay, he was stuck behind a bunch of other niggas.
Speaker 2Okay, I thought I saw it just now and I saw over 177.
Speaker 1That's true, but again on a team with a bunch of other niggas.
Speaker 2Yeah, but you can't Again the same thing as saying about the Ohio State guys like, hey, you played a bunch of great players. I'm like, well, you're going to do that in the NFL too, other than if you're playing on the Bengals defense.
Speaker 1He had 13 in 2020. First year on the Bengals, he had 13. Okay. That defense was slightly better. That year, 2021, is where he gets wicked 14. Okay, that's still Then 2022.
Speaker 22022 was when I think that was when the TJ Watt sack year 8?.
Speaker 1That's not right. Sacks Only an 8 that's not right.
Speaker 2Was it 23 then?
Speaker 1You're telling me you only had 8 sacks that year.
Speaker 2In 22? Probably.
Speaker 1That's right 17 and a half.
Speaker 2Okay, so I think that was the year that TJ Watt tied the sack record. I was 23, I think.
Speaker 1Oh 21 to use your job.
Speaker 2Okay, makes sense.
Speaker 1Yes, 17 and a half again. Come on, dude, come on.
Speaker 2Come on, I don't understand You're saying Nick Bosa's better.
Speaker 1Where, when my nigga. His health issues have been.
Speaker 2Trey Hendrickson has been a Iron man in a way that Nick Bosa hasn't, and I have to take that into account.
Speaker 1The only year where he was on a top five defensive end was 2022. And in 2022, I didn't even watch the Bengals play. There was no hope. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1But in 2021, 2023, and 2024, it was Trey Hendrickson and then TJ Watt. It was TJrickson and then TJ Watt. It was TJ Watt and then Trey Hendrickson, one and two, and then last year it was Trey Hendrickson and still some of my fucking TJ Watt Down here in this nigga's still number two. What the fuck I will give you this. Tj Watt is crazy as fuck. 30 more sacks than the guy. I can't fault him on that. He's that good, but give my boys credit.
Speaker 2No, he's good, he's a great okay fine, yeah, okay, fine, I can get by. I'm not supposed to be number three this is okay, okay, fine.
Speaker 1Why the fuck do I have to fight for my best players to be the second best in their position? What the fuck all right.
Speaker 2So this is my question would you give him the 35, the max crosrosby got we?
Speaker 1have no defense.
Speaker 2We have to.
Speaker 1No defense. I don't understand. What do you mean?
Speaker 2We have to Apparently. The Bengals don't think that they're like hey you're going to pay, they just don't have the money.
Speaker 1They're broke. No, they do. They just don't want to pay. But again, if I'm the Bengals, I'm looking at these other niggas Like next year it's gonna be wicked. We're paying Joe Burrow Right now, just Joe Burrow Next year. We're fucked, fucked. Yeah, you are getting Jamar.
Speaker 1Chase contract starts Right now. They're just paying T Higgins and Joe Burrow. Yeah, yeah, you're not. They're fucking quivering over there. They're like oh God. They don't make enough money as is. They can't even get money from the city to get a new fucking stadium. Yeah, okay, they have no options. No one. No one is betting on the nigga with four and a half sacks over three years to be good.
Speaker 1No one is betting they drafted him to be that guy Real quick. He's not even playing and no one cares. No one has talked about it except the first time we saw him at practice. After that everybody was like Okay. Don't get it figured out. Every comment I see on this motherfucker being in a video. Pay this man, Pay him. Pay him. No one wants him not paid.
Speaker 2Every Bengals fan wants him paid because you know why. He's been a good soldier. He's done everything right.
Speaker 1I'd start. He's been a good soldier. I watched the defense. He's done everything right. Like if I start doing this shit like Madden, I just turn this thing off and look at my phone until the other team scored and I turn TV back on, because he is the only reason I watch the defense. If we don't pay him, I truly believe we are never getting past 9-8 again. Never. We are never getting past 9-8 ever again. No one on the defense is good enough. Jordan Battle's improving.
Speaker 2Logan Wilson is also very good, but again, a safety just never has the positional value of a defensive end.
Speaker 1Logan Wilson is also really good, but Logan Wilson is a true middle linebacker. I lead the defense, you can send me on a blitz I got the tight end. He does his job. Jordan Battle does his job. Dre Henriksen is the cornerstone of the defense and if we don't pay him?
Speaker 2what are we doing? What are we?
Speaker 1doing. I got you, you paid. Logan Wilson, you paid.
Speaker 2Jordan Battle. I just think Max Crosby and Miles Garrett kind of messed everything up by going to get paid $35-$40 million a year, Again Max Crosby's.
Speaker 1Like this team's ass, I want a new contract.
Speaker 2He's holding them hostage. I don't know how they keep saying yes, he's done it four times in three years.
Speaker 1You know why they keep saying yes. Because I got nothing else you are all we got.
Speaker 2Well, they have other guys now who they got Geno. It's a lot better than what they've had. They do. They have Brock.
Speaker 1Bowers, geno ain't even fully a positive, to be honest, with you.
Speaker 2Geno is right there. I think I would take him over.
Speaker 1Brock Purdy, I'd be watching the pre for my game.
Speaker 2Geno or Brock Purdy. I'd take Geno.
Speaker 1Okay, but then I'll be watching the pre game of my game and I'll see if I can come across the line for Geno. Six of 32. 40 yards, eight interceptions what the?
Speaker 2fuck happened. He'll have those breakdown games, yeah.
Speaker 1More often than he should. Yeah, no, that's true.
Speaker 2Like out of—. But I also think it's because they had nothing else, and if he wasn't throwing the football, I just—.
Speaker 1Again, he doesn't throw like oh yeah, that's an okay interception. No, he throws it straight to a nigga. Oh true, no, for sure. I'm talking like it's not even like a good interception.
Speaker 2I just think if they had a balanced offense around him, it doesn't matter, it doesn't help.
Speaker 1Kenny Walker was hurt last year, but again, even when Kenny Walker wasn't hurt, he still throws those interceptions.
Speaker 2And here's what I'll say they are going to run the football like crazy because they have Ashton Genting, so I think you'll actually get a much better version of Geno on that team. Throwing to who? Brock Bowers.
Speaker 1Nigga, that is a tight end. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. They have a year of tape now they're going to start hitting this nigga like he's fucking Calvin.
Speaker 2Johnson Brock Bowers.
Speaker 1Legit, we're going to have safeties trying to put that man down.
Speaker 2Ashton Gentry, you can throw him a football out of the backfield. At least they have other weapons now Again their O-line's bad.
Speaker 1They go out of a nausea in two years All of his good carries are behind him and real quick. All of his good carries are way behind him. He had like 1,000 carries in college. That's true. Let alone the 350 he had last year.
Speaker 2Or maybe he's all lubed up and ready to go.
Speaker 1Maybe he he's nice and ready for all the punishment possible he's never been injured, but that he has 1,187 carries in college Dude there's some pro running backs.
Speaker 2They ran him into the ground it fucking worked. And again, that's what the Alabama did to Najee too. They ran him into the ground Over his four years there. They used him like crazy. That boy was elite though. Alright, you ready for the bang? We went on a huge tangent. Sorry, dude, no for sure again. If you don't fight for your guy, who will?
Speaker 1so I don't never blame you in the dpoi crazy to me because tj watt goes out there and gets 19 sacks and he gets five. Six votes true. Trey hendrickson got none miles garrett got nine. What the fuck miles garrett at 13 sacks?
Speaker 2yeah it, but his pass rush win rate, it's the name, it's the fucking name.
Speaker 1Unfortunately, TTY has a bigger name than Reinhardt.
Speaker 2Oh, let's not forget the clip of Myles Garrett doing the basketball move when he's sitting there over the center. Who has no shot against him? Whoa.
Speaker 1I'm not surprised. Oh, you're twice that nigga's size. What the fuck.
Speaker 2Oh, you're much bigger, faster, stronger than that guy. No wonder you're doing basketball moves like before the snap I it's like the. It's the most insane thing I've ever seen give a fuck you.
Speaker 1You move real quick.
Speaker 2That's one thing me and you can agree on is our hate for miles garrett, because he's the most overrated they move you around the o-line, give you the best chance to get a sack.
Speaker 1Yeah, every other person besides michael parsons.
Speaker 2Fuck again it's not it's smart thing to do, but I just think that it has to count against you. It negates you, yeah, I just think it has to be a little bit of a negation.
Speaker 1The same way, micah Parsons can't stop the run, miles Garrett can do that. Run at that man, run straight at him.
Speaker 2Run at that man all day and he will get tired Real quick. Dnic get tired like that. Besides him, he gets gassed. Think about this All the defensive ends that have been great over the last 10 years or so. They're all 6'6", 6'2" and taller, Around 240, 250. That's all the great ones. They're all big boys. Micah Parsons just over 6 foot, Running at around 200 pounds. No wonder he's getting ran out all day. He's never going to have the frame to be able to last the way he needs to.
Speaker 1Trey Henry's what I think Trey Henry's 6'2", 6'3" 6'4" 270. Damn that nigga's big.
Speaker 2I think TJ Ross went around 250. Miles Garrett's in the 250 range too. Like these are monsters.
Speaker 1And then you know michael parsons run around like a little rc car let me get after your quarterback, you're talking you got a guy my size trying to go up against six foot five alignments, yeah, and running backs who are as big as him.
Speaker 2But hey off at the lineman, don't try to let him run around. You Just go attack the man and he'll get tired.
Speaker 3Roll his ass over, he'll get you a couple times he will.
Speaker 2He's very fast, but you're going to tire him out.
Speaker 1Yeah, eventually.
Speaker 2He's a little kid on the basketball court.
Speaker 1He was a rookie last year. I think he was a Chargers rookie, Joe Alt. I think he played against Michael Parsons and there was one snap where they got off the ball and Joe Alt touched him before he got up. Yep, Real quick. Joe Alt's a big motherfucker, he's stout. You saw?
Speaker 2it. Stout is the word.
Speaker 1He was able to hold TJ Watt for a little bit.
Speaker 2Yeah, and then TJ Watt just— and he was able to hold.
Speaker 1Trey Hendrickson for a little bit. Yeah, Because he was like I'm longer.
Speaker 2Not to mention, they keep running the football, like that was their plan. It's like, hey, we're just going to keep running the football all day and they can't run it that left side.
Speaker 1Yeah, they go keep going that way. No, question I wish I had two good tackles. I wish I had a motherfucker.
Speaker 2So good at left tackle.
Speaker 1I draft another good left tackle for a bit.
Speaker 2What the fuck.
Speaker 1A bit they're going to keep Rashawn Slater.
Speaker 2This is our chance this year, like we drafted Fatano and he didn't even play last year because he got hurt, so hopefully he'll be able to come in and take over the other tackle spot, mims, and then, finally, hopefully we'll have an answer, and then you guys have Mims and he was starting to play. At some point, yes, in his third year. But you still have Orlando Brown. He still has a couple more years. He only has one more year left.
Speaker 1Oh, so next year, the year after this one, they're going to move him to left tackle? Yeah, probably, and he's going to get beat the fuck up on.
Speaker 2Probably, and everyone's going to be like, oh he's guarding.
Speaker 1No, he's good Just slow. Yeah, for sure. He's too big to be a guard.
Speaker 2Way too big, he's way too talented to be a guard he is, it's just he's way too talented, but it's just, he just doesn't have the.
Speaker 1I wish I could see clips of him in practice, because that's he's an alignment. We don't see that, yeah, but I want to know if he's, if he maybe dropped a little weight, got a little faster that'd be nice I'd be the hope. Yeah, because orlando brown isn't the biggest. He's only like six foot five, six or four. Yeah, he's a smaller tackle he's a little more yeah quick feet, yeah, quick feet, sorry no, it's fine.
Speaker 2Oh no, these are regular conversations we like having on this podcast that makes it.
Speaker 1The only other guy I can talk about sports with is a browns fan, and they're just having fun watching their quarter.
Speaker 2Not to mention we get to little brother, them like, hey, this is fun. But come on this, when I talk to jake I respect him, I really do. And I know I disrespect him sometimes and I know I pissed him off at points last year to where he kind of bit my head off a couple times and I'm like oh, maybe I went too far.
Speaker 1Maybe I went too far, dude. I work with five Browns fans. I don't know if you've met me, joe. I'm going to ask yeah, we beat the Browns and I walk around like we won the football Again.
Speaker 2I'm the nicest person. I think I'm a really nice guy when it comes to my sports. I know what I'm talking about and I will be in my bag and I'll be willing to say some stuff, we put the Browns in the dirt, yeah, because we beat them twice last year.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, no, I hope I'm nicer to them than I am the Reds fans. Yeah, all right, Because everybody's talking about, like Ellie's going to be the first billion-dollar man and I work with a Reds fan, that's if they pay them. Man, I was like yeah he'll be a billion-dollar man for the Yankees. I was like, yeah, in four years he'll be a billion-dollar man for the Yankees because you guys won't pay him I, but first year cycle, I'll take him right now.
Speaker 1Have you seen him in playing this year? That boy is crazy Dude. His defense sucks ass. Yeah, he's trash. And he plays short right, they tried, he's big enough. He's more talented. What?
Speaker 2do they?
Speaker 1have him playing at normally. Then Second and third. They had him at second for like 10 games and suddenly everybody was like, hey, second base is an offensive position, move his ass to third, because he can sling a baseball he can throw, he's just not consistent. What did I say? Yeah, he's like O'Neal de la Cruz, but less good at all of baseball. O'neal can't stay healthy. Yeah true, but he's great at all of baseball.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Ellie is one of the worst defensive players I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, but when they have—.
Speaker 2They'll make the spectacular play every once in a while, but it makes you like ooh.
Speaker 1Ooh, you just do 101 across the diamond. Yeah, my God. Oh, you threw a hard one across the diamond to the stands.
Speaker 2Yeah, Sorry, bengals, I love this. Bengals week one You'll get your opportunity for the Browns early At Cleveland. Week one Win or loss, you'll win. This will be the. This schedule may open up for them to finally have a hot start, which they're allergic to.
Speaker 3We said that shit last year bro Stop playing with me and I want to lose to the Patriots Do not do this right now.
Speaker 1Slow start, we slow start.
Speaker 2So you think you're going to lose?
Speaker 1to the Browns. It's like a car with a turbo you got to let it heat up.
Speaker 2Is that Cleveland? You're going to lose this one. Yes, no.
Speaker 1Dude, I've only seen us beat the Browns Twice.
Speaker 2Yeah, but you did it last year you blanked them 58-9. Yeah.
Speaker 1Halloween night I get home, I take my Joker mask and my Joker makeup off. 58-9. Nick Chubb four touchdowns.
Speaker 2Hey, nick Chubb's not there, no more, you don't have to fear Nick Chubb, but they got Quinn John though, dude man.
Speaker 1I don't want to fuck with that nigga.
Speaker 2Quinn John's a monster bro.
Speaker 1Despite everything, the Browns still somehow have a decent O-line. What the fuck yeah? How do y'all do that?
Speaker 2Yeah, I just don't know what. The one it's probably going to be Joe Flacco. If it's Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco could still sling that ball, bro, he can. But I would say win, but this is your choice Double URL, we probably would win. Okay, Fine, 1-0. Week two Jacksonville. I hope I really I will watch that game as a Bengals fan because I want to see Jamar Chase slice up Travis Hunter bro.
Speaker 1I want to see it so bad. I was like, hey, I hope the Bengals play him. You're like I don't know if they do. No, they do week two. They are going to play him.
Speaker 2I want him to get sliced up at corner Again. Travis is probably going to do a lot when he plays that wide receiver because they have Brian Robinson Jr on one side. He's going to be unstoppable. You guys have nobody that could stop that guy. I forgot that nigga was there. He's awesome. But the fact that Travis can go in there and be a number two wide receiver may be the best thing for him, because I just don't think he's a number one.
Speaker 1So I think he's going to get his at wide receiver. We're going to prove he's on a number one DB Go ahead. If they try to play him at that. Fuck around and put him on T Higgins. I dare you Because real quick, he screwed. Joey Porter may not be the most athletic guy. Joey Porter can cover Travis Hunter. The best dude you covered last year was who.
Speaker 2Welcome to some real talent yeah real boys, sorry, yeah, real boys so you guys win.
Speaker 1I guess you guys win. I agree, week three at Minnesota Pack, yeah, straight packed JJ McCarthy, if JJ McCarthy finds something. I'm not sure It'll be a shootout just because, come on, justin Jefferson. Jj does TJ Hawkinson and Jordan Addison. I don't know who the running back is, but he's decent. Robinson and Jordan Addison. I don't know who the running back is, but he's decent. I think it's Packers.
Speaker 2They drafted a running back. Oh, who cares? I?
Speaker 1don't care, It'll be a shootout, but when it comes down to hey, you've got to elevate to the moment, you're not Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2Yeah, true, week four at Denver. I think that's an L. Why Denver had a very good defense last year.
Speaker 1We beat them at home and they only added to that.
Speaker 2Beat them at home, but you were sweating bullets because that game was going back and forth.
Speaker 1Wait, Evan McPherson missed. No, it didn't need to go back and forth. He was injured last year trying to kick. It didn't.
Speaker 2But y'all were back and forth with the Broncos. Logan Wilson was also hurt.
Speaker 1I know, give us our just dues. Hold on. Evan McPherson was injured. Try to kick. He was injured. Verify he was injured. You're trying to play through it.
Speaker 2They actually have a cornerback that can handle one of your wide receivers. He didn't, though. He didn't.
Speaker 1Hold on. You say that he didn't. They did not Judge Marr. Chase had three touchdowns. He had two touchdowns. Who the fuck's stopping him? Chase Brown had a touchdown. This nigga had a receiving touchdown. Legit. They go down there and score. Joe Marr goes like I got it, throws his shit on. What five plays Down the field, down the field, down the field, please. Down the field. Down the field, down the field, no ball, and this is what I'll say.
Speaker 2Denver finally has a running back. They have Omari and Hampton.
Speaker 1Still got to run the football. I don't give a fuck. Run the football. Shmon the football. You, not Joe Burrow. This a win. We beat them last year. All I have McPherson has to do is kick the ball straight. My nigga You're not injured.
Speaker 226 yards and you win. But they had a rookie quarterback and he was doing great in that game.
Speaker 1That was probably his best game all season and he couldn't rise, like Joe Burrow couldn't Go ahead.
Speaker 2He did, for the most part, double coverage down the field.
Speaker 1Boom Shotgun Game should be over Minute left. Joe Burrow's like Fuck that Legit Gets back to the sideline, walk past Zach Taylor, give the ball to me and sits his ass down. Go ahead, rise to that moment again. You can't, you can't even beat the Chiefs. Bitch ass nigga.
Speaker 2All they had to do was not get their field goal blocked and they would have won the game against the Chiefs.
Speaker 1Crazy. Joe Bo didn't need a field goal. He slung that bitch. You know why? Cause you gotta rise to the moment.
Speaker 2And no one else can do it. All right, win Denver, broncos, detroit. You guys lose that game. What. You guys lose to Detroit. Their defense is ass.
Speaker 1Gibbs, my offense is better. Stop lying, go ahead. How many DBs do they have to stop us? Oh, who's on their D-line besides Aiden Hutchinson?
Speaker 2They drafted somebody. They drafted a defensive end.
Speaker 1Give me his fucking name.
Speaker 2I forget the draft already. He spent so long At pick what 28?
Speaker 1Give me this shitty nigga's name. I think he's a first-round pick. He is. It was a defensive tackle from Michigan.
Speaker 2No, shitty nigga's name. I think he's a first round pick he is. It was a defensive tackle from Michigan. No, no, no, no. They took my boy. They took my boy. Jtt. No, jtt went to the Colts. Okay, you're not helping me. Then they took Ty Lee Williams who the fuck is that? Our defensive tackle? He was awesome. He's a guy that gets after the passer. So they did not get a defensive end in the first round, but he can get after the passer.
Speaker 1Has he met Joe Burrow? Not yet, but he will. He never will. He will the ball already out. You know why? Because Brian Barrett's the fucking safety. I'm sorry You're putting us up against another team.
Speaker 2I know but they'll be running the football down your throat the whole game, chase Brown can run the football.
Speaker 1We have running backs. We drafted a running back. What do you mean? We have a 2X system, just like they do.
Speaker 2Yeah, but yeah, but their defensive line is better than yours. How?
Speaker 1Who's on their line?
Speaker 2They have Henderson, they have Tyleek Williams, they Hutchinson, hutchinson.
Speaker 1I'm sorry how many sacks you have. Last year, oh, your leg was in two. He's coming back from an injury. Fuck nigga, that's fucked.
Speaker 2You're coming back from an injury. That's fucked. You're a terrible person.
Speaker 1He's coming back from an injury. You say this all the time. We don't know how good they're going to be. He's coming back from an injury. This. It looked like a limp penis. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of my face. He's not getting past Nobody.
Speaker 2Okay. So you went from going saying they never have hot starts to where now you're saying they're about to be 5-0 to start the year. Pick one, pick one.
Speaker 1You were 4-0 to start the year. Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2Yeah, but we don't have so many starts like you didn't.
Speaker 1We're better than you, we're better.
Speaker 2You just said yeah, so pick one. Are they a hot starting team or not? I said, oh, you're like, don't do it to me, joe, don't do it to me. They never have a hot start, they never have. And then now you have them five. Oh no, come on, pick one. So if they're not gonna have a hot start, they have to lose somewhere. Motherfucker, pick one, pick an l I'll start.
Speaker 1You're such an asshole, pick an L. I'll start. That's a win, it's a win.
Speaker 2You're such an asshole. Okay, hot start. It is 5-0. Week 6 at Green Bay.
Speaker 1Fucking win.
Speaker 2Before we started this podcast, you said 17-0. And I'm like there's no way he's going to really go in with that.
Speaker 1This might actually go this way. We're better than the Packers. This one's an actual win. Come on, packers have no defense, okay.
Speaker 2So you agree with the Packers? I don't believe in Jordan Love enough. If Jordan Love's consistent every week, I would have a bigger question. He's not, but he's not, he has. He is the most nonchalant like he plays. Like I said all last year, he plays like he's aaron rogers, but he's not aaron rogers in the way that, like he like passes and he tries to do some of the things.
Speaker 1He's not as physically talented as aaron rogers so like his attitude reminds me of aiden Childs.
Speaker 2It's not even his attitude. Well, he does. He kind of has like an even keel. He has an even keel of CJ Stroud, but he's not the assassin, cj is.
Speaker 1It's when he throws interceptions. There's no analytical about it. He doesn't go sit down serious enough in a way. Right, they don't understand. It truly hurts the team.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Because they just don't go sit down and look at a tablet. No one goes talk to them Like what the fuck are we doing? Same thing with Jordan Love Joe Burrow through six interceptions. He would look pissed.
Speaker 2And they give him all the license, do they say, hey, you're going to throw picks, it's fine, and I'm like when CJ does that, he's killing himself on the sideline. He's apologizing to every player on the sideline. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1I won't do that anymore. He is there with his receivers sitting there figuring out what's going wrong. Same thing Joe Burrow does. And this is what makes them great versus good.
Speaker 2Yeah, if he was more consistent I would say L, but it's a win, yes, sir, so 6-0.
Speaker 1Oh, start the year. Pittsburgh Dubs Week, 7. Dubs.
Speaker 2City. Yeah, we'll be there for it. We'll be there On the sealer side, apparently, because we don't want to pay the price for the home tickets. I'll pay the shit out of pocket Week 8, new York Jets Win. York Jets win eight. No, that's crazy. Week nine Chicago Bears win. Week 10 bye, they're gonna go into week 10 with no losses. They're gonna be chilling week 11 at. Pittsburgh win my nigga schedule's cake.
Speaker 1this is if you have Mason Rudolph, it's a dub.
Speaker 2Okay. Week 12, New England Patriots. I think that might be an L Again. You were just saying when the Steelers were facing them, don't want to face them late. This is week 12. They have a quarterback in Drake May. They have Travion. Who's going to defense besides Chris Gonzalez? Oh, they assigned the defense tackle from the Eagles Ball's out, Doesn't matter.
Speaker 1I'm just saying Ball's out. And guess what? They can't stop the run.
Speaker 2They'll be able to now. I really do think they will. With who the defense tackle from the Eagles, who's very good. He dominated in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1So a defensive tackle sits in the middle right Stops the run. Yes, Now what happens when our running backs? Who can't run up the middle run outside? Yeah okay, because we drafted the dude from. I think his name's Brooks Tajay Brooks.
Speaker 2I think he's Taj Brooks from Texas Tech. He is small. I think that's him. Yeah, he is small. How do I remember that name? Of all names? Insane, I don't fucking know how?
Speaker 1do you remember Our fifth round pick? But you sit there and go. What's his name? He plays for the Bengals, your quarterback Nigga. What the fuck? No bro.
Speaker 2I find weird times, dude, and it's always.
Speaker 1Like the most popular people In the NFL and I'm like dude.
Speaker 2You have a weird way to end the season. It's kind of tough.
Speaker 1The Ravens twice in three weeks Is not how I want to see the rest of my schedule. Why the Ravens twice? Who are we playing currently?
Speaker 2Patriots.
Speaker 1I said L.
Speaker 2Again, you're not going to start this season 11-0 bro Patriots.
Speaker 1Their defense isn't good enough. It's not good enough. Christian Gonzalez is very, very good. That is one receiver. We have two, if not three guys who are viable. We have another guy who is a viable option. They don't have two DVs. They for sure have nobody else in that secondary. And then we have two running backs who can run the ball in a decent O-line. That's getting better, yeah, okay. So I think we are properly staffed to play a team like this.
Speaker 2I just think Drake May offensively. I think they will be able to do a lot against your defense, I agree, but again we're talking about the pass defense.
Speaker 1They improved the DT and their DB is good, but again it's that much different than the Broncos.
Speaker 2Yeah, but how many teams did you guys lose to last year, when Joe Burrow scored 40 points, 50 points, I think it was over 30. You guys had a losing record and Joe Burrow was scoring 30 in a week every week, practically.
Speaker 1Joe Burrow was the only quarterback ever to have scored, to have thrown for four-plus touchdowns in almost every game, and still lose every game despite throwing four-plus touchdowns. Yeah.
Speaker 2But we got better. Okay, all right, week 12. You're 12-0 now At Baltimore, week 13. That's a no. Come on, don't do this At Baltimore, very, very hostile place to play Late November. You're only about to have yourself 13 and up bro At Buffalo Bills. Stop playing with me, josh.
Speaker 1Y'all are the bitch, Look at me. Look at me. Was my defense worse last year or worse in 2021?
Speaker 2It's worse now. It's worse now. It's much worse now.
Speaker 1My best DB in 2021 was Eli Apple.
Speaker 2I think you guys will pray for Eli Apple, which y'all had last year.
Speaker 1Five, eight to 14, fuck nigga. No D-line, no O-line. Our best O-line in that year was Lyle Collins. Go ahead, fuck with your boy.
Speaker 2I dare you? I just think again when you guys said that I think you'd pray for Eli Apple.
Speaker 1No, cam Taylor Britt is way better than Eli Apple.
Speaker 2Last year he wasn't.
Speaker 1Yeah, eli Apple's ass. Let's be honest, eli Apple wasn't there to cover nobody.
Speaker 2I think you even admitted last year, in the middle of last year, that Cam Taylor Britt was having a very bad year. He was bad, but again our best TV was hurt.
Speaker 1They're back, they're back now they're back.
Speaker 2Oh, it's all positive, it's all positive. Okay, 14-0. I like this wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1We lose to the Ravens. I didn't deny that.
Speaker 2Okay, 13-1.
Speaker 1That nigga Derrick Henry is going to put his dick in our mouth. We couldn't stop Nick Chubb.
Speaker 2Do they pay him? They paid him like a two-year extension of like Time doesn't touch that man.
Speaker 1I understand he had 1,200. I think he had like 1,500 last year. He didn't have 1,500.
Speaker 2But he had, I think at 1,100.
Speaker 1No, he had over 1,000 yards for sure. Yeah, cmc has fallen, but King Henry still stands. I don't. That time does not touch that man. Whatever his goal, he's gonna go on a down year. He's not gonna get the ball as much. He didn't get the ball as much and he was still that guy. Yeah, I have nothing for you.
Speaker 2We can't stop Nick Chubb. Honestly, in the middle of last year, when we were all complaining About how they didn't give him the ball enough, and by the time the playoffs came they started just giving him the ball and he was just dicking down everybody, bro, they used him perfectly.
Speaker 1I saw Nick Chubb kill us multiple times, multiple times in my life Derek Henry's better than Nick Chubb. We did beat the Ravens. No, we didn't beat the Ravens last year. Those were the two games where Joe Burrow threw for five touchdowns and one woman lost. My bad, he threw for six Lam. Two games where Joe Burrow threw for five touchdowns and one woman lost. My bad, he threw for six. Lamar had four Six touchdowns. That was the streak of four weeks where Evan McPherson couldn't hit shit.
Speaker 2Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's so true.
Speaker 1And Justin Duck comes out like 53. Schmitty three. Here's it. I'm going to touch women now. I need a massage, fucking, and he was missing like shit too last year.
Speaker 2Yeah, he was bad last year, not against the Bengals.
Speaker 1I got it, the Bills.
Speaker 2So 13-1. Now Week 15 Baltimore Again, that's a weird way to play, like I think you guys might lose to both of them, both At home. No, sir, you guys might lose to both of them, both At home. No, sir, after playing Buffalo and them like, this is a really hard three-week stretch.
Speaker 1We're at home, right, sir? Correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're at home In Paycor. Yeah, it is In Paycor. Yes, Next game, sir.
Speaker 1At Miami Two is not planned by this point. It game, sir, at Miami Two is not planned by this point.
Speaker 2It's a win, oh, I think you'd give your left testicle to have a season like this, dude, I'd give the whole sack.
Speaker 1What do you mean? If somebody's listening right now, take it.
Speaker 2And a Super Bowl victory. Gotta give me the Super Bowl win. Sign the papers. Gotta give me the Super Bowl win. Sign the papers.
Speaker 1I could be awake, y'all could take them. Let's chop them bitches off to make sure I'm cauterized.
Speaker 2It'd be much easier if Miami was coming to Bay Corps Again what week is this? Week 16.
Speaker 1No shot to his playing right now. Tua got hurt in week 11. He's been gone. No shot, he's playing.
Speaker 2Week 17, Arizona. I think Arizona low-key might be a better team this year Again, I said that before.
Speaker 1Who's their starting quarterback?
Speaker 2It's still Kyler, I know.
Speaker 1Real quick. I'm not going to cap to you. The Ravens, the Bengals don't even play their starters in this game.
Speaker 2Well, with your season, they've already won the division. They have the first overall seed. They've been sitting for two weeks, according to what you've been talking about.
Speaker 1Real quick. I think this game's a loss. It's not. Our back is still better than the team.
Speaker 2Wait, my bad. Peyton Thorn's the one slinging the ball. We're fucked. We're fucked. Marv will undress whoever you put on him.
Speaker 1Are you talking about the nigga that only had like 300 yards? Last year I don't give a fuck. Okay, I know I'm not saying no.
Speaker 2They were misusing Marv last year and I saw a picture he put I swear he's put on like 20 pounds of just muscle.
Speaker 1I agree. He is going to kill everybody, Everybody that has anything bad to say about him. He will destroy them. We have to be confident that Kyler Murray can get him the ball.
Speaker 2Again, the Bengals are probably a playoff team regardless, even when you're trying to be negative.
Speaker 1You're like oh, they're playing a self-playoff team. The realistic of this schedule is we do win this many games, Come on. The realistic of this schedule is we do win this many games, Come on. The Bengals are just that good we're that good Okay.
Speaker 3But even if we don't win this many games, our starters are benched by this game.
Speaker 1Okay, the Bills play in a cheeky fucking division. They've had their division locked up for five weeks by now.
Speaker 2I think, the only no, no, no I think the only chance of that, of what you're saying not being the case is if the Bengals are still fighting to try to get that number one overall seed and being at pay core throughout the playoffs. I think that's where the problem will come, because you are dealing with the Bills, who don't play anybody in their own division. You are dealing with the Chiefs, who own their division.
Speaker 1This is where the problem is. In reality, we're probably going to be like 11-6.
Speaker 2Yes, you guys are going to make the playoffs, you're going to win the problem in the division, but we're fighting with the Ravens to be the number one in our division. Yes, and we yeah so now you have to have a better record than them, which we probably will. The Ravens' schedule is harder than ours. Yeah, the Ravens did get screwed. Their schedule is way harder than ours. They got screwed pretty bad.
Speaker 1Browns Jags, minnesota, denver. That is an easy four weeks. Denver is the only team that I truly believe we will beat them. I truly believe we will beat the Lions. I truly believe we'll fuck up the Packers. We're going to fuck the Steelers. Jets, bears, steelers again, fuck the Steelers, the Pats.
Speaker 2You're so mean.
Speaker 1Off game. Maybe. Maybe on the Pats we have an off game. I doubt it. That motherfucker, that left tackle they drafted is small. Him and Trey Hendricks are the same size. Trey Hendricks is faster and hopefully, and hopefully, I don't remember his name. I don't like this nigga that much. From Texas A&M. I don't know his name. I don't give a fuck about him. Shamar Stewart, what the fuck is wrong with you? Why do you know their names?
Speaker 1who was our second round pick. I swear to god, if you get this, you gotta get out of my house it's like Demario Dixon or something like that. It was Demario Knight, but it's still weird, oh.
Speaker 2Demetrius Knight. That's who it is.
Speaker 1The fact you got that close to getting his first name crazy.
Speaker 2It's Demetrius Knight who was your second round pick. Second round pick for the Steelers what we didn't have one. Dk Metcalf was our second round pick.
Speaker 1I really thought you were going to pick some random nigga. No, dk Metcalf's our second round pick, but again, I did get his name right, by the way.
Speaker 2I was wrong at first, and then you got me a little closer and I got the same, and then that was week 17. Week 18, the Browns. So in this magical scenario, you're going to go 17.
Speaker 1I'm just doing a couple games. Go ahead. No, okay, cardinals.
Speaker 2Cardinals week 17. 17, that's a win, oh wait, that's week 17.
Speaker 1We don't bet you, it's a win.
Speaker 2I thought you said it was going to be an L, because you're benching your guys.
Speaker 1No, I thought it was last week.
Speaker 2Week 18 is the Browns.
Speaker 1Who do you think we're playing at this point? Who do you think is the quarterback?
Speaker 2It's Again. I'm not a big believer in Shador but he's Short throw. Shador. It's probably going to be Shador by this point. It'll probably definitely be Shador.
Speaker 1That's great. He's going to wish Dion was out there receiving for him, because we're going to fuck him up.
Speaker 2The dub Okay Because.
Speaker 1Miles Garrett's not playing at this point. They're not making the playoffs 17-1.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Who did we lose to?
Speaker 2You said the Ravens once. It looks pretty good Playing that three-week stretch Ravens, bills, ravens is kind of insane. It looks pretty good to me. Oh okay, oh yeah. You'd give your whole nutsack for that record Again and again. I don't think it's really. I think you guys will probably win 11 games.
Speaker 1I will make you as many children as you want Take it.
Speaker 2I think 11 and 6 is perfectly reasonable for what your season is.
Speaker 1Real quick for them to truly get my left nutsack, my whole nutsack, right. Let me win this many games and then play the Chiefs in the AFC Championship and beat the fuck out of them and then win the Super Bowl. You could kill me after that Bullet to the face. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2Come on, you have to win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1Yeah, like I said, beat the Chiefs in the AFC Championship and then win the Super Bowl. Right after the Super Bowl, Lombardi is hoisted up.
Speaker 2End my life, guillotine and all Pow.
Speaker 1Gone. Happiest moment of my life, the last. That's all I need. That's all I need.
Speaker 2That's all I need. Honestly, I hope you can have this much positivity when we do our actual over-unders.
Speaker 1Hell. No, I've seen our defense in practice. Real quick. Joe Brown looks as elite as ever, but God damn, the Bengals defense makes him look so much better. They're out there making fucking Peyton Thorne look good. That's how bad they are In reality. We're 11-6. That is what we are 11-6,.
Speaker 2Yes, you guys are battling the Ravens for the division making the playoffs.
Speaker 1I can give you the actuality of what it's probably going to be. We beat the Browns, we beat the Jags, we beat Minnesota. I believe we beat Denver. I'm okay with that game being a toss-up. I think their defense we know what they are. They added a DT but we added a running back and, alas, your taste problem was very good in that game. So I think that game's more of a toss-up than you're letting it be the same with the Lions. That defense did not get much better. They didn't. They didn't get better, especially in their secondary. Their front seven got a little bit better, but they still have no linebackers and no secondary. Their D-line got better. We face good D-lines all year, every year. Joe Burrows faced them. Every fucking year he's played the Steelers.
Speaker 3That's the best D-line in football because no matter what or who's in there, somebody is blitzing.
Speaker 1Okay. This is why I think we beat the Lions. You're saying, yeah, their D-line got better. I agree they got better, but their secondary did not. And that's where the teams with bad secondaries is where the bangles thrive, because they run in a fucking air raid.
Speaker 2I'm just, I'm just checking their draft real quick to see if they added anything, and they really did exactly that team did not get better.
Speaker 1They didn't do much in free agency besides that dt. It is a win okay I.
Speaker 2I think it's a toss-up I think, I think it's a toss-up I agree's a toss up, I agree, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1Those were my Potential losses, I agree. And then, oh, you paused.
Speaker 2Huh, you paused.
Speaker 1No oh.
Speaker 2It's a dog drinking water, it's fine.
Speaker 1He's still going.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's fine, just keep going Okay.
Speaker 1Um, I truly believe we beat the tailors Twice this year. He's still going yeah, it's fine, just keep going, okay, gang.
Speaker 2I truly believe we beat the Steelers twice this year. You can't even create a world that's more normal. It's the curse of Joe Burrow. Our offense is that good. I don't see a world where we lose to the Steelers twice With.
Speaker 1Mason Rudolph as quarterback. Fuck no With Rod Mason Rudolph as a quarterback, fuck no With Rodgers. Maybe, maybe. But Cam Taylor Britt's the perfect dude to piss DK Metcalf off. Physicalized DB on DK Metcalf he pissing George Pickens off last year.
Speaker 2Everybody Pickens, could Pickens, just you know.
Speaker 1When is DK Metcalf at his worst? Who, when he has a physical risk, db on him? Who ain't fast? Because they both slow as shit. They both slow.
Speaker 2Pickens.
Speaker 1No, DK Metcalf is slow.
Speaker 2He's not slow, he ain't fast. He ran a 4-3 in the combine.
Speaker 1So did Cam Dillard.
Speaker 2That nigga's slow 4-3 is slow for us. Okay, so are you creating this net magical world? Where are the six losses at? If you truly believe that's probably, where you're at.
Speaker 1I'm trying, I'm trying.
Speaker 2No, you're not losing to the Jets, you're not losing to the Bears, the Patriots. I really do think no, nigga.
Speaker 1No, who the fuck's on that? They didn't get better.
Speaker 2Okay, so you'll lose to the Ravens twice, then no, the losses have to come from somewhere. If you think 11-6 is more reasonable, it's not the.
Speaker 1Patriots nigga Mike Vrabel's, the defensive head coach, the offense is the same. It's not the Patriots. It's not the Patriots, okay.
Speaker 2You have to pick where the losses are coming from.
Speaker 1if you're going to have six of them, I don't know, gang, I don't know, maybe 17-1 if we lose to Denver and the Lions 15-3.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1Okay Gang, I don't see losses. I't see losses. I only see victims.
Speaker 2You know what. I only see victims. That might be the name of the podcast. I don't see losses.
Speaker 1I see victims Because I listen to the fucking Bills. Fuck the Bills. Y'all ain't changed at all. What you do. Add a dunk, king Kaden. Who's your best receiver? Keon Coleman. I've seen him play. He ain't nothing special.
Speaker 2What the nigga that don't wear shoes all the time.
Speaker 1That nigga has fungal growth, get him the fuck away from me.
Speaker 2He manages to make plays every time, though.
Speaker 1Yeah, so did Gabe Davis.
Speaker 2Can't wait to get sent.
Speaker 1Gabe Davis had one year, one game and this dude somehow makes plays, can't wait to get sent. Gabe Davis had one year, one game and this dude somehow makes plays, can't wait to get sent off and makes 31 million dollars a year For no fucking reason.
Speaker 2I think Gabe Davis is playing with the Jaguars Hilarious, yeah, and he got paid a shit ton of money. He's not good.
Speaker 1Yeah, he did get paid a decent amount. What'd they call him? And then they took Travis.
Speaker 2Hunter, that's funny, how that works.
Speaker 1Cause they probably saw Gabe Davis in training camp and be like, oh fuck, he's been locked up for three straight days.
Speaker 2Yeah, probably need a better weapon than that.
Speaker 1All right, I'm not going to lie to you. Our schedule is cake. It is very easy. The hardest two teams we really have to play is the Bills and Ravens Lions. I forgot they were on here. The Lions they're good. The Packers aren't difficult at all. What Jordan Love are we getting, if you get the good Jordan Love Is?
Speaker 2the defense better. Their defense is better than yours, so is everybody else's.
Speaker 1Joe Burrow still had 47 on yours.
Speaker 2Sorry, didn't change the Sorry.
Speaker 1I keep coming to this conversation to think I'm going get a Reasonable conversation, okay okay, okay, but as long as you have Joe Burrow on your side, there's no such thing. I understand. Our defense was number 31 last year. Yeah, we lost a fuck ton of games. Uh huh. And Joe Burrow still Beat a bunch of good teams. He beat no, he didn't. He beat a bunch of shitty teams and then played really well against the good teams.
Speaker 2But we're still 15-3. He played good enough where it wasn't his fault last year.
Speaker 3That's all we can say it's never his fault. It wasn't his fault.
Speaker 2During your slow starts. It has been his fault. He hadn't played. How did he play against the Patriots last year? Dude, jamar Chase hadn't played. I got an excuse for everything nigga Go ahead, keep shooting. I got an excuse for everything nigga Go ahead, keep shooting. Joe Burrows your Jesus bro. Call me the Kevin Mutombo. I'm locking these bitches. He's your Jesus bro. It's hilarious, but you know what? He's good enough to where I can't necessarily sit here and say you shouldn't think that way, but I'm just Dude.
Speaker 1This is it. I got four more years of this. Either we win a Super Bowl or we're back in obscurity until the next dude.
Speaker 2You know, I can only hope I can get to a point where I, like you're at. That's what I want. My dream is to believe in a quarterback the way you can believe in your quarterback, at least believe in a quarterback in black and gold, in a way that you believe your quarterback in orange and black.
Speaker 1I have to Like. I said I only have four more years of this because if we don't win something or get obscenely better, he's going to be 31 at the end of this contract.
Speaker 2And he'll be able to go play somewhere else and have plenty of years left Comfortably. So yeah, for sure. I've seen this story.
Speaker 1I watched Carson Palmer do this shit, Dude credit to him.
Speaker 2He was willing to retire because he's like I'm not doing this no more. He was willing to retire and sit out for over a year and then come back and be able to play, because that's how tired he was, fuck you Drafted Andy Dalton.
Speaker 1This nigga turned out to be good. Decent yeah for sure. See, we say decent Like he ended up with a shit ton of yards. No, for sure he played great, a shit ton of yards and.
Speaker 2He got you to play off multiple times, though, and then didn't do much there, but he still did his thing.
Speaker 1I would have preferred if we just kept losing, yeah. I know there's so many good players, instead of drafting John Ross at nine.
Speaker 2One of the craziest draft picks ever Nothing could be worse than Jamarcus Russell.
Speaker 1Ryan Leaf was pretty bad.
Speaker 2Ryan Leaf was pretty bad but again his is more drugs and all that stuff related Off the field stuff. Jamarcus Russell was awful from the get-go On the field, terrible.
Speaker 1It wasn't even more the off-field problems until after he was bad on the field.
Speaker 2There's one more guy I'm trying to think of. That was like stupid bad Draft wise.
Speaker 1Who was the quarterback? Brady Quinn there it is.
Speaker 2Brady Quinn was not a first round pick.
Speaker 1Yes, the fuck he was.
Speaker 2Brady.
Speaker 1Quinn, he was a second round pick Look it up.
Speaker 2Manziel was a first round pick.
Speaker 1That one's really bad. That's damn close to number one.
Speaker 2Brady Quinn was a second round pick College draft. Oh, he was in the first round, so pick 22. My bad, I'll say maybe I was.
Speaker 1I know the Browns history. I was messing him up with Colt McCoy.
Speaker 2They drafted Colt McCoy in the second round, damn are they?
Speaker 1They drafted that many, that many. They had second round.
Speaker 2Damn, are they Drafted that many quarterbacks, that many.
Speaker 1They had so many Shit. I can distinctly remember three.
Speaker 2The Browns have a lot of bad quarterbacks. They took Johnny Manziel in the first round. Insane Brady Quinn did a lot more in college Than Brady Quinn was better Once he left the Browns. And plus he. He was 6'4, 232, like he had the. He was the stereo, he was like the quarterback.
Speaker 1If you go to like his game logs the year he left the Browns, he was way better.
Speaker 2He only played 24 games.
Speaker 1Oh, he played for Browns all his life. Oh, I'm so sorry for your loss.
Speaker 2He played four seasons and he played Kansas City his last year In 2012. Played in eight games. One in seven this nick was at um he was so bad, so bad jesus.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I can't find. I know, I know three more losses.
Speaker 2You have your bangle, you have your jesus, you have joe burrow. Is your, is your guy.
Speaker 1We might lose to the Browns last week.
Speaker 2Because you're sitting everybody, you don't care, no more At that point.
Speaker 1Yeah, we'd probably be sitting everybody. Either we have the division or we don't.
Speaker 2Playoffs are in hand. That's kind of just what it is.
Speaker 1I totally understand Either we have the division or we don't. Okay, so if we're sitting everybody, that's another loss.
Speaker 2Okay, this is my. This is the last thing before we get out of here, off the, but you can keep thinking about the angles in the back of your head. Apparently, the NFL is going to, they're going to do the owner's meetings where they kind of do those the rule stuff they said they're potentially going to vote on not doing the playoff seeding by just automatically giving it to the top four division winners. The first four seeds is not automatically going to go to the four division winners. Are you for or against that? Against Okay, so you want to have, because that's the only thing. Against, that is when you have, let's just say, the NFC South, when you have a division winner only winning eight games and making the playoffs and being able to host a playoff game Real quick.
Speaker 1there were years where these motherfuckers won eight and eight and I'm like what the fuck?
Speaker 2Or the NFC North and NFC West, when they were those bad years where the Seahawks coming in winning seven games and they hosted a playoff game. I feel like that's wrong.
Speaker 1Okay, you say that the Seahawks won the Super Bowl off that shit. No, no, not that year, no, but they still won the Super Bowl off of going 9-8 as a wild card and won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2But as a wild card, not hosting a playoff game, they were still the best in the division. You should have never here. 9-8 means you don't make it. Ask the Bengals. I just think I just don't want to, because there's a lot of tough division. We're in a tough division right now.
Speaker 2Imagine the Bengals and Ravens going down the pike. They're only a game or two against each other and the Bengals get, they're off by the Ravens and they have to go play a wild card game and play in somebody else's house when somebody in let's just say the afc east, no, let's say afc south, because normally that's been like the bad division, even though I think the, the houston's probably gonna own that division from from here on out. Let's just say they only win like eight games in the bangles have to go play in their house when they won 12. Like I, I just I can get behind the idea that you don't.
Speaker 1That's why it's so important to win your division.
Speaker 2I get it. No, I get it. I understand.
Speaker 1I think there should be a reason you have to try to win your division and I think the teams that are better it should be a premium on winning your division. And I think there's going to be a lot of teams where they're like Most divisions. There's two teams and the AFC North. Unfortunately, there's three to four of us every year. It's a fucking bitch. So, again, I would believe that the AFC North may be a division that votes for something like that.
Speaker 2Or the NFC North. Nfc North is bad. The.
Speaker 1Lions Packers, the AFC, you mean good.
Speaker 2No, I'm saying bad as in. It's very hard in that division.
Speaker 1It's hard to get the number one seat in your division. Yeah, so the better divisions in football may vote for that? Yeah for sure, but the worst ones? Tampa Bay, is probably like no fuck that, we don't want to do that shit.
Speaker 2We want to host two playoff games. We want to be able to host a playoff game for sure.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know I get it, but I like the fact that it means something you get, that you get to host At least one game. Get to host a game.
Speaker 2Yeah, okay, I get it. I just think that it can be so finicky and I'm like at some point, but you're one of those teams that doesn't ever win your division. True, but again we're sitting right above 500, so it's not really for me. I really don't care, but it's just the nfc north teams, like three teams, are making it a team like the steelers.
Speaker 1Who are the steelers? Bangles, ravens they were all struggling for number one. Yeah, so hey, we don't have to go play at somebody else's house. We're way better than the team we're about to play.
Speaker 2Right we get screwed over because, because we are in a division with better teams overall.
Speaker 1No, it doesn't really matter for the AFC. Basically, every team that's in the playoffs has 10 plus wins. 10 wins is the minimum. You have to have 10 to get in.
Speaker 2Oh, in the last few years there's a lot more. Like I was saying before, over the last two or three years there's been a lot more good AFC teams than NFC teams.
Speaker 1Yeah, so the AFC may be a little more for it Because a lot more good quarterbacks than AFC. Also, you have teams like the Bengals at the Ravens. The Ravens have 11. The Bengals have 12. Cool, the Bengals lost one more AFC North game. Those games mean more. That's why they're played harder. That's why they're played harder. That's why they're more fun to watch. I love AFC North games. They're great.
Speaker 2I've seen so many fist fights, I can make a case because there's such a big discrepancy in quarterback play. Ah shut the fuck up that of the top, cry, cry, no, no, no, I'm saying the quarterback, because quarterback is so important, right, yeah, if If not for Jaden Daniels, jaden Daniels, like again. That's when I forget how many good quarterbacks Are there in the NFC.
Speaker 1Jordan Love a good quarterback.
Speaker 2I'll say good, he's good more often than not, so I'll say him I don't know the AFC team. All I can think of is why am I forgetting names now? Goff Love, love, hurts, hurts.
Speaker 1I don't know the AFC team.
Speaker 2Gino used to be in the NFC. He's in the AFC now. He was never one of them Again, but he was more consistent Than everybody else. I don't know the.
Speaker 1I don't know the the NFC team.
Speaker 2Jaden Daniels. After With a year ahead last year, you can just say he is.
Speaker 1I don't know. I don't know anymore.
Speaker 2Like they're hoping for Caleb To be good.
Speaker 1I don't know the teams. I don't have an answer. I don't know the teams.
Speaker 2Oh, oh, oh oh, oh, we got five. We have five Stafford. We're good, there's five.
Speaker 1I don't know the team. I don't know who the fuck to get.
Speaker 2I don't know the team After them. We're talking about Kyler, no.
Speaker 1I'm a little bit higher on Kyler than you, but even still Last year no one should be. It's my job to throw to the receivers. Yes, it is fuck nigga.
Speaker 2Last year was really bad for him.
Speaker 1When they tried to put a clause I guess to study the playbook In this thing, it was like this Motherfucker's garbage Instantly Lost all credibility with me.
Speaker 2Uh, Darnold's in the NFC now Not really consistent enough. He had a great year last year, but oh, but.
Speaker 1Gino is one of them. They're the same nigga. He was more consistent. No, he's not. Last year, no, gino was worse.
Speaker 2Gino's playing on a worse team.
Speaker 1Ooh, Ooh, no, I think they're about equal Sam.
Speaker 2Darnold With Jay Jeddas. Who does Sam Darnold With Jay Jettas? Who did Sam Darnold have last year, Jace, he was on the Vikings. Jay Jettas Hawkinson, the other wide receiver's name.
Speaker 1It's Jordan Addison. Addison, yes, God damn damn dude, you are like bad, bad again, I'm bad, bad.
Speaker 2And then I remember a third round pick. You didn't even think you were. You can remember compared, darn old Geno, 15 interceptions. He had 15 interceptions. Who was he throwing to last year? 15? They didn't even believe in JSN Until late the year. Last year. Dude, it's JSN and nobody else. Dude, well, I guess he did have dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. 15 is crazy 15 sam donald had 12 and 35 touchdowns. He had j jettas top wide receiver in the nfl second. Sorry, second they were 10-7.
Speaker 1Uh-huh this, he had more passing yards.
Speaker 2Are you making my case for me? Do you know?
Speaker 1Okay, okay, okay. No, he is worse. He's just slinging that motherfucker. You don't know who he's going to.
Speaker 2He's throwing that bitch up yeah, they needed him to. They had nothing else.
Speaker 1It shows, it shows, it shows, it shows, it shows, it shows, it shows, it shows, it shows. Real quick, you say nothing else, hold on. Uh Ah. Motherfucker, I'm gonna have to speak. How do I spell Kenneth?
Speaker 2K-E-N-N-E-T-H, e-t-h, not A. He was hurt for most of the season.
Speaker 1He still had seven touchdowns, 500 or 700 yards that's not a lot bro. It's still more than that, zach.
Speaker 2Sharpen might have actually outpaced him in yards. His backup.
Speaker 1How do I?
Speaker 2remember that name? His backup, backup. How do I remember that name? Who the fuck is Zach Sharp? His backup? I think I remember his name more because I had him in Fantasy last year. I don't give a fuck who the fuck is Zach Sharp. He played at UCLA. You forgot Fucking.
Speaker 1Jane D played at UCLA. You forgot Fucking Jane Dane was there. You just pulled Zach Sharman out, your fucking ass.
Speaker 2Who the fuck you knew where he went to college. I'm pretty sure he played at UCLA.
Speaker 1We will look this up right after this. If you were right, you got to reevaluate. You got to reevaluate, okay. If you were right, you've got to reevaluate, you've got to reevaluate, okay. I'm now lost on Zach Charbonnet. I'm sorry, give me a moment. I want to see where he did the most interceptions. Oh, this is like the full goddamn thing. I don't want that. It's too much stat. No.
Speaker 2I get it. It's overload INTS.
Speaker 1Here's three he threw three right here. This is where Kenny Walker had his most yards. So Kenny Walker was there for week five through 11, week two and three and gone after 12. He threw most of his interceptions between five. Yeah, he definitely played at UCLA.
Speaker 2Sorry, I was still thinking about Zach Durbin.
Speaker 1Why Three and three? Yeah, who was on the Rams secondary?
Speaker 2They had a good dead decent defense last year.
Speaker 1Secondary.
Speaker 2They didn't have a lot of names, but they played very well because they have a lot. They have very good.
Speaker 1Their front seven.
Speaker 2Jared Verse and the defensive end they drafted. He was very good last year.
Speaker 1Was he a first round pick?
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Okay, real quick. Don't know this nigga.
Speaker 2Jared Verse was very good last year.
Speaker 1You forgot Jaden Daniels. I Jared versus very good last year. You forgot Jaden Daniels, I'm sorry. Zach Charbonnet and then Jared verse what?
Speaker 2are these AI generated names? Get the fuck away. There are names I can remember, I guess.
Speaker 1Okay, look, he threw his most interceptions when Kenny Walker was healthy. So this nigga's ass, I don't care, send his ass back to the Jets. What's his name? Zach Charbonnet. This nigga's ass, I don't care, send his ass back to the Jets. What's his name?
Speaker 2Zach Charbonnet. Zach Charbonnet, yeah, z-a-c-h. Charbonnet, c-h-a-r. You can spell his name yeah, c-h-a-r.
Speaker 1Not S-H Charbonnet Charbonnet, this nigga went to UCLA.
Speaker 2Yeah, I remembered him.
Speaker 1He didn't have as many yards as Kenny Walker.
Speaker 2Yeah, but look at his receiving yards. He probably was a monster last year.
Speaker 1You knew his name, yeah.
Speaker 2What? What are you looking at now? Quarterbacks.
Speaker 1Baker.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, baker's another one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1The next name that popped up in my brain was Bryce Young, and I was like damn yeah Dak. Yeah, bryce Young, and I was like damn yeah Dak.
Speaker 2Yeah, I, I guess, but then you have.
Speaker 1Josh Allen. Yeah, um, drake, may Yup Justin Fields for the Jets. Ain't nothing to scoff at. It ain't nothing to scoff at. He's there. Um, damn Lamar Jackson, lamar, damn Lamar Jackson, lamar Joe, bowe Joe.
Speaker 2CJ Trevor Lawrence, even though we don't believe in him, but still.
Speaker 1Now they have Cam Ward. Now they have Cam J Herbo. Despite what, he is Damn More than half the teams have a good quarterback yeah. You're talking. The only ones that kind of don't are the Dolphins.
Speaker 2The only teams that for sure don't are the Dolphins. The only teams that for sure don't have a quarterback is the Steelers, raiders, raiders, colts.
Speaker 1Colts Browns, not a definite Browns, it's four, it's four. But the rest either are good quarterbacks or just like some of the best in the league. I think you have the best quarterbacks in the NFL or in the AFC? All in the AFC? Yeah, you have, I think, the top five or all in the AFC.
Speaker 2Yes. Without a doubt and like seven of the top ten yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, like without a doubt, seven of the top ten are all in the AFC. At least I can't.
Speaker 1At least seven.
Speaker 2Seven, at least seven.
Speaker 1You have Patrick Mahomes, number one. Joe Burrows, number two. Josh Allen, number three. Cedar Shots, number four. Don't care what nobody says. Lamar Jackson Ooh, is he four or is he six? Is he five or is he six? He's five, he's in the top five. Cedar Shouse, number four. I don't care what nobody says. Lamar Jackson Ooh, is he four or is he six? Is he five or is he six? He's five, he's in the top five, I don't know.
Speaker 2Bo Nix is real fucking good. Bo Nix is not a top ten yet he's not even close.
Speaker 1Bo Nix, no If you think he's a top ten quarterback they're beating?
Speaker 2you, he's not number two. You quoted him as not being good enough and that's why you guys beat them last year.
Speaker 1He said he couldn't step up to the moment, couldn't step up to the Chiefs.
Speaker 2Yeah, but if you're calling him a top, he couldn't step up to the Chiefs. Step up to the Chiefs, nigga. Do it, do it pussy.
Speaker 1He did oh, how's the playoffs? Go home, fuck nigga. Go home, fuck nigga. Stop playing with me.
Speaker 215 to 3 pussy alright, we've gone long enough. We need to end this podcast. We've had a lot of fun, but we'll be back next week doing our thing two and a half hours yeah yeah, but yeah, we had a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun doing all this, talking about everything we wanted to talk about. I think the Knicks have already beaten the Celtics by now. Who cares?
Speaker 1Not me. Fonzo will, though. See. Sga had four fouls before the end of the second half. Yeah, before the end of the first half. My bad, yeah. Four fouls.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was. Sga does have a little bit of the. Oh, it's not going my way, I'll just throw. He does that sometimes, but again, he's too good at everything else. It doesn't really matter. But you know, yeah, like getting fouled, yeah.
Speaker 1But yeah, so Real quick. He was almost as good as Prime Shane Harden to get fouls. Brunson is too.
Speaker 2Dude Brunson's a foul merchant.
Speaker 1There was one game. It was they were playing the Rockets and it was Shang-Goon. Sga was like yeah, I am. I also left 20 in free throws and he had 25 in free throws, he ended up scoring 40. Yeah.
Speaker 2Crazy.
Speaker 1And only a couple of them were off your own points, dude. It's just insane.
Speaker 2But, yeah, talk about everything we want to talk about. Talk plenty of trash to each other, which is what we usually do. So, alinda here, if you've been listening for a while, we appreciate you just now joining on. Hopefully you'll like us and enjoy us enough to join us on the ride and talk about sports in the dumbest way possible, are you really going to hum? We do not do that I was trying to get one consistent bar If you like us and enjoy us enough.
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Speaker 1I don't know why I'm having so much fun just watching little bars go up and down. Yeah, I'm a simple-minded motherfucker Because, god damn, I'm having fun. Yeah, I bet you are. This has been Taylor's Post Podcast. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you guys for always listening. Have a nice day, a nice night and a nice weekend. Bye.
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