JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
Tempers Flare Talking KD and Tush Push
What begins as a routine NBA playoff update spirals into one of the most heated debates in podcast history when the subject of Kevin Durant's legacy emerges. Brotherly civility dissolves as fundamental disagreements about what makes a basketball player truly "great" take center stage. One brother passionately argues that Durant's championships deserve asterisks due to his decision to join the already-dominant Warriors, while the other defends KD as the best player on those championship teams.
The tension continues when discussing the "Tush Push" play remaining legal in the NFL for another season. The philosophical divide couldn't be clearer: is it "bitch made" to ban a successful strategy, or is the play itself ruining football's competitive balance? Neither brother backs down, creating moments of genuine tension that showcase how sports debates often reveal deeper values and perspectives.
Between these fiery exchanges, the episode covers substantial ground: the Thunder's impressive defensive identity, Halliburton's game-tying shot against the Knicks, flag football joining the Olympics, and a shocking statistical comparison between Trevor Lawrence and Daniel Jones that questions conventional quarterback evaluations.
By the podcast's end, with one brother "physically warm" from frustration, listeners gain a raw, unfiltered look at how sports talk between siblings can rapidly evolve from casual conversation to passionate confrontation. This episode isn't just about basketball strategies or football rules—it's about the competitive spirit that drives both sports and the relationships of those who love them.
welcome to the podcast, today's third. It's thursday, may the 22nd.
Speaker 2:We're back for the podcast and we back and, uh, we got plenty of things to talk about got nfl, we got nba and I don't really have much mlB to talk about other than Juan Sotosucking, because that was awesome to watch during the Yankees-Mets series. That was pretty good. But other than that, baseball, not really Did you? No, I didn't. Did you see that Paul Skeen's? Like?
Speaker 2:Everybody was talking about whether Paul Skeen should be traded or not from the Pirates because they keep wasting him, which is kind of a hilarious thought to have. You're like, oh, you just got the guy. He's probably one of the most popular players in the MLB. The GM for the Pirates came out and said we have no, we have no, I know want to trade him. Like I'm not surprised, because if you don't have him, who else do you have left? I get it, they have a couple like talented players on that team, but it's nobody of Paul Skeen's level, even though if they traded him right now, I think they would get so much for him. Imagine adding somebody like that to any championship team's rotation. It would be insane. You know, it's funny if that ever happened to be the Dodgers to do it. You know, just add somebody else to back pay them. So unfortunate, but yeah, so let's go ahead and go on, go on and start talking about some stuff. Uh, start basketball before we get to the nfl stuff, because there's not a lot of basketball stuff, but I just want to make sure we talked about it.
Speaker 2:Nicks destroyed tatum with celtics in game six at home. This is all ever since we last podcasted. It was game six. It was in the in the garden. The celtics didn't have enough gas offensively, knicks took care of business. That was game six. Game seven of the Western, of the sorry, of the semis in the West, thunders defense finally breaks. Jokic led Nuggets. This Thunder team might be one of the best defensive teams I've seen in a while. I agree that is one of those teams that they want to initiate their offense by stopping you.
Speaker 1:I don't know if it's the best offensive team or the most sound. I think they're just solid everywhere on defense.
Speaker 2:No, but I think one of the defenses in the NBA, if you think of it better that we've actually seen, because obviously you go back to the Detroit Pistons when they were won their championship like, but like other than that, like defensively, I don't think I've seen a team like that ferocious uh, the San Antonio Spurs back when Tim Duncan was there not, as like again they were trying to stop you. The Thunder are trying to steal the ball away and they're like trying to pick you up like they.
Speaker 2:It's like they're trying to take your soul on defense okay yeah, um, but yeah, it was just Jokic didn't have enough gas. That team was pretty, pretty hurt and I think honestly that might be the last like big test for the Oklahoma City Thunder. To be honest with you, based on the all the teams that are left in between the Eastern and Western Conference finals, I think this, the championship, is the Thunders to lose. We'll get to how their first game against the Timberwolves fared in the Western Conference Finals, but we'll get to that in a second. So game one of the Thunder and Timberwolves.
Speaker 2:So I think there's two players right that when Harden used to do this, everybody was all very upset about it. When Harden used to foul merchant, he used to go crazy trying to draw fouls, trying to get to the bucket, do all that right. Everybody was very mad at him for it and they was like, oh, we should change the rules and all that because of it they have. The nba has made a big strides in, especially in the regular season, of trying to make it to where foul merchants isn't as rampant that's good they've tried again.
Speaker 2:They've tried whether it's actually worked or not. I'm not going to sit here and try to litigate that, but I think that it, especially you know, now you get to this season where, honestly, the two biggest foul merchants in the nba are shea gilchrist, alexander and jalen brunson yeah they get to the, they get to the playoffs and then next thing you know I'm not sure how much of the basketball you've watched this might be the most physical playoffs I've seen in a while.
Speaker 2:They've let players play through. They're not necessarily calling ticky, tack fouls like crazy, but it's for these two players. It keeps happening. Okay. And for shea, again, he's averaging like nine. He's averaging going to the foul line nine times a game and they asked him him about it and I think he said that two years ago he was averaging 11 times at the free throw line a game and nobody was complaining. But now that I'm sending your favorite team, so now you're going to complain, which?
Speaker 2:I get it to a certain extent. But as a guy that has no skin in the game at all because my Bulls suck, our Bulls suck, they're not really doing anything in the playoffs I can tell that those two players are very like. They are fishing for fouls at all times, and whether you want to give them credit for, hey, you will know how to do it. All all the power to you, but it doesn't mean that it makes the game easier to watch. When you're looking at them you'll be like, hey, that's not a foul. I saw a clip of jalen brunson I'm going to talk about the game in a minute last night against theers use one of the defensive players' hands and hit himself in the face. So when you're seeing stuff like that, it looks very desperate and I'm like, as great of a player as you are, you shouldn't have to do this, and that's what makes it all the more sad. So when you see Thunder take on the Timberwolves in that game, one Thunder destroyed them and the game honestly wasn't all that close. It was close for like three quarters and then the Thunder kind of pulled away there and they won 125 to 93. Sorry, no, no, no. They didn't win that. It was sorry that was not the score of that game. The score of the first game was 114 to 88. Even worse than I thought. So that was. The score of the first game was 114-88, even worse than I thought. So that was the score of that game. And I'm sitting there like it was close for a while.
Speaker 2:Anthony Edwards didn't play all that great. I think he had like 18 points. Timberwolves really didn't have it, even though they're coming off of their break where they took care of their series early. But the Thunder, defensively, are so in your face and they're in your grill. They're trying to get the ball away from you. They're practically fouling you In the playoffs. The officials are letting it happen. But then when you see on the other end you have Shea sitting there foul-merchant and getting a bunch of fouls called that, you don't think that aren't really fouls. I think it's just a weird kind of thing where you're like, hey, your team is taking advantage of it, but then you, shea in particular, is looking for those fouls on the other end and he's usually getting them. That's what kind of makes it a weird spot. All the credit to Shea, though he didn't win the MVP. It was between him and Jokic were the two finalists. I think Shea played very well this year. He probably deserved it, even though Jokic is just like a very good player.
Speaker 1:No, Jokic definitely. This is voters' fatigue, because for four straight years Jokic has been the best NBA player in the world. No one can tell me he's not.
Speaker 2:Honestly, in that series where Jokic and Shea played, I think you could make a case that Jokic was probably the better player in that series.
Speaker 1:He was Not even a case. He was. He's been the best player in the NBA for four straight years and it's been being wasted on the Nuggets.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because again they had a championship winning team a couple years ago and they've had to pretty much piece it apart ever since Because the NBA is hard cap. Now they call the second apron and all that. But we're not going to go too far into that. See, you know what's funny? Not funny. He was 65 years old. I don't know who the fuck Jim Mercy is. Owner of the Colts.
Speaker 1:Oh, I saw Jim and I was hoping it was Brown.
Speaker 2:My bad.
Speaker 1:It was a Bengals statement so I was really hoping it was Jim Brown. I thought it was Paul Brown. It's Mike Brown, but who gives a fuck?
Speaker 2:Yeah, jim Mercy, he died at 65. Our 66-year-old grandfather looks like 20 years younger than that guy.
Speaker 1:Our grandfather looks like a ball site.
Speaker 2:True, but that's what I'm saying. Jim Mercy was known to be very hard on drugs. He didn't necessarily have a great life Think about it this way If he didn't live hard like he did. Most of the NFL owners are dying at very old age 65 is pretty young.
Speaker 2:Awful, ain't it? It is, but like, think about it if, if he wanted to live a more clean life, he'd probably living to like close to 90 like everybody else, but not necessarily the case. He lived his life a little differently. Everybody loved him, though. People considered him a really good owner um, he loved the players and all that. But it was a very sad because nobody really saw it coming. And apparently he actually tweeted earlier that day about the Pacers Talk about, hey, pacers, go win it for the city and all that and then he ended up dying. It was like in his sleep or whatever. So it was kind of a shock to everybody. But yeah, it was a very, very weird thing. Nobody really saw that one coming. Let me see, do you know? He was the youngest NFL GM of all time. His father made him the GM at 25 years old Kind of insane. That's like a weird stat that I heard when everybody was talking about him today.
Speaker 1:All right, 25 is crazy At 25, his dad made him the GM Insane.
Speaker 2:And then, last but not is crazy, at 25, his dad made him the GM Insane. And then, last but not least, this was the game last night Pacers stunned Knicks in game one, powered by Aaron Neesmith, going 8 of 9 from 3. And he hit five threes in the last five minutes of the game. And there was a point in that game where Brunson had five fouls so he went to the bench and that was with a one point lead and the Knicks were able to extend the lead to like 17 points. And then the last five minutes the Pacers managed to come back and that was when you called me last night. You called me and I was sitting there watching the game at the same time and they managed to piece their way back. And again Aaron Neesmith hit five threes in the last five minutes and he went eight of nine from three um, something that's really hasn't been done in the um in the playoffs, like. So he went insane and it was capped off by freaking Halliburton going for the shot with like 14 seconds left. It was a couple of the Knicks had their shot to win the game, because I think it was Cat and I think it was OG and Inouye. Both had an opportunity to hit a free throw to extend the lead, so it's not a problem. Og missed one of those two free throws. They managed to go up by two and then the pace of the ball was like 14 seconds left, halliburton gets the ball, goes on the court, ends up getting into the lane, gets close, he can hit a short two and this is the craziest part about it is he had a short two, he could possibly shoot Very easy shot. You know what he did. He turned around and tried to get the three so he can finish off the game. His foot was still on the line so it managed to be a two and he hit the shot. The ball hit the back of the rim, went straight up and then fell straight down and honestly, the only other shot I can think of that was close to that in like week because the ball went so high. When it hit the rim it went out of the screen like you didn't even see it for a second.
Speaker 2:It it made me think of the um the kawaii leonard shot. You know the ball they hit, he hit the shot. They hit every single part of the rim and made Joel Embiid cry in the locker room. So, like that was what it reminded me of. Huh, he didn't make it to the locker room. No, yeah, you're right, he didn't make it to the locker room. He was sitting there crying on the floor. So that's what it reminded me of, but it was for tying the game rather than winning the game, and that's what could have been. Meme-worthy is, if Albertan hit that shot, he hit the little celly with the choking celly that I forget what player hit that, like 20 years ago or something like that. I forget what player it was. Reggie Miller hit that same celly against the Knicks. Real, quick, real quick.
Speaker 1:Every player on their current teams, like their number one player, are all on teams who have never won a championship.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:The Knicks have won one.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, real quick. It makes SGA Jalen Brunson what's his name? Tyrese Halliburton and Anthony Edwards. If any one of them win a chip, they're automatically the best player ever to play for that team. You know that right the best player.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you can say that for the Oklahoma City Thunder how many chips do they have not for that team?
Speaker 1:no, okay, cool. So how many chips does KD have not on a super team? That's crazy, ain't that funny. Even with a championship he doesn't make does KD have not on a super team? That's crazy, ain't that funny.
Speaker 2:Even with a championship, he doesn't make Shea better than KD. He makes him a more winning player than KD, I guess in an Oklahoma City uniform. But a better player is a no.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry this nigga couldn't win with Russell Westbrook and James Harden next to him, so he's like you know what I got to do.
Speaker 2:They did go have to face LeBron's Heat Like they did.
Speaker 1:They beat the Heat and got smacked by the Warriors and he's like I got to go do that Two different years it doesn't matter the Heat were like, oh, we can't pay you and LeBron had gone back to Cleveland. They probably would have went to the Heat. I'm just saying.
Speaker 2:KG did the same shit again. That team was like we can't do it with you, we should send you to somewhere to go win a championship for sure no, the fuck, that wasn't how the Timberwolves went.
Speaker 1:Timberwolves wanted to pay KG. He was like, nah, I want to win a championship and they were doing it on the T-Wolves. I don't see it that way. Who's the second?
Speaker 2:best player on the T-Wolves? I don't see it.
Speaker 1:Who's the second best player on the?
Speaker 2:Timberwolves they don't really Like. I guess right now you could say it's fucking Rudy Gobert. It's not Rudy, okay.
Speaker 1:Who is it, Joe? It's not Rudy. What, Julius Randle?
Speaker 2:He's been playing the second best on that team oh okay, cool, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Can we just take a second and look at everybody's teams? I don't know who the fuck's on the Pacers. I'm not going to cap it Tyrus Halliburton's playing with nobody as well.
Speaker 2:There are a bunch of players that all play defense and can hit threes. It's a very and same thing with the Thunder Thunder. They both have they actually have good players.
Speaker 1:I can name multiple players.
Speaker 2:Like.
Speaker 1:Williams. He's definitely the second best player on that team.
Speaker 2:Jalen Williams, yeah.
Speaker 1:He's a good 20, 21, a night.
Speaker 2:I agree with you Real quick.
Speaker 1:If Anthony Edwards wins one, he's the best dude ever put on a Timberwolves jersey. You can't deny that fact.
Speaker 2:Winning, he's the best we saw that they had kevin love there for a while.
Speaker 1:They had kg oh, I'm sorry again. Did both of them leave to go to join a super team? Yeah, what the fuck are we talking?
Speaker 2:about.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to make a delineation between best and greatest I'm the greatest to wear a Timberwolves jersey, because look at this Timberwolves ring I have.
Speaker 2:Yes, greatest. Look how many super teams I've joined. But yet you keep saying best, though they're not the best, he's the best. That nigga's better than KG. Would you call Tom Brady the best quarterback of all time or the greatest quarterback of all time? There's a difference.
Speaker 1:Okay, real quick.
Speaker 2:Are best okay, real quick our best and greatest synonymous.
Speaker 1:No, they're two separate. When it comes to sports, there are two separate words. Okay, who's the best quarterback of?
Speaker 2:all time, joe, I think I'd probably from what I've seen or just in general.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who's the best? What qualifies as the best, Joe?
Speaker 2:Physical like physical tools.
Speaker 1:Oh then it's Dan Marino, you dumb fuck. All the passing yards, all the touchdowns, any accolade you want, dan Marino has it. I'd say Peyton, oh cool. So I'm sorry. Did you just pick a quarterback that's not as good as Dan Marino and has none of the stats and awards? Dan Marino has? Yes, he does. Peyton Manning, mm-hmm, he doesn't have the yards.
Speaker 2:Yes, he does, no, he doesn't, no, he doesn't Peyton Manning's in the top five of most quarterback stats right now.
Speaker 1:And Dan Marino's in top three. He was that good, but he's far from the fucking greatest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm just trying to say Okay, cool, so real quick.
Speaker 1:The best dude ain't even close to the greatest, ain't even close. Dan Marino has a shit ton of records. When a quarterback record is broken, it's his.
Speaker 2:How many rings that nigga has. It's all Tom Brady's now, but you know.
Speaker 1:No, most of the passing records are still his. How many rings does he have? Zero, oh, so he's nor the best or the greatest, because you're using a word that is fucking synonymous. It's synonymous, that's the same shit. I'm Anthony. Edwards is the greatest and best nigga to wear a Timberwolves jersey. Do you know why?
Speaker 2:if he wins a chip. Yes, I do a lot more than anybody else with a Timber. A typical jersey has done yes, for sure.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, jalen Brunch is the best nigga to wear a Knicks jersey ever.
Speaker 2:Do you know he already has like I think Patrick Ewing owns the record for most 30-point games in a Knicks uniform in the playoffs.
Speaker 1:Patrick Ewing probably also owns the most fucking playoff losses as a Knick too.
Speaker 2:But Jalen Brunson's close to breaking his record, so he's the best and the greatest.
Speaker 1:He becomes a Nick legend if he wins a fucking championship, he's already probably a Nick legend.
Speaker 2:The Knicks are so starved for a championship. All he has to do is win one.
Speaker 1:They will forget Carmelo's name if he wins a championship.
Speaker 2:He already might be better than Carmelo.
Speaker 1:I think he's done more Knicks series than Carmelo has for sure, and you're telling me Anthony Edwards hasn't done more than the other two niggas in a fucking Minnesota Timberwolves jersey.
Speaker 2:I think KG in.
Speaker 1:KG was at his best as a fucking Celtic and Kevin Love was at his best as a fucking Cavalier.
Speaker 2:No, he was not his best as a Cavalier, I agree with you. He took a lesser role to go to the Cavs.
Speaker 1:I agree with you. Ask any nigga right now. No one remembers he was on the fucking Timberwolves. Probably not yeah, oh, I'm sorry, so they don't remember this nigga's name on the Timberwolves.
Speaker 2:Okay, now Reggie Miller, I don't remember shit about you, old, old man.
Speaker 1:You can shoot threes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the celly, I remember yeah, the celly, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:And then Jordan proceeded to bust your ass. Yeah, the celly, don't mean shit right.
Speaker 2:But again, it's not his fault. He lived in an era where Jordan ruled.
Speaker 1:The world did you just say Kevin Durant, the, that nigga's a fiend for a championship, apparently. I'm gonna join this super team. I'm going to join this super team. I wonder if LeBron's hiring Really this nigga Russ. I'll give you Russ. Russ might be better than SGA.
Speaker 2:SGA's not better than Kevin Durant, come on.
Speaker 1:Oh Okay. So, how many rings has Kevin Durant won on a team that wasn't the fucking?
Speaker 2:Warriors. I'm sorry. He was the best player on that Warriors team, though it doesn't mean anything, there's an asterisk on your name.
Speaker 1:You were already playing with an MVP caliber player and it wasn't good enough. Yeah, there is an asterisk on your name. If you would have won a chip with Brooklyn, I give it to you. For sure, I give it to you. No, nigga you left a team that was two wins behind Golden State, because y'all couldn't beat them twice in a row. You lost to the Heat Golden State, golden State Because y'all don't got it, so you joined them.
Speaker 2:And then, and then you, and then, and then You're like fuck it, I don't want to go join the Suns.
Speaker 1:I think, as time has passed, I think his time with the Warriors has looked kindly upon him, because everybody realized how much His time with the Warriors has only proved you cannot win a fucking championship without a super team behind you.
Speaker 2:You can look at it that way.
Speaker 1:for sure, yes, can you look at it any other way. How many championships has he won without the Warriors?
Speaker 2:He hasn't won any.
Speaker 1:How many championships have the Warriors won without him?
Speaker 2:One.
Speaker 1:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Well, they won before him and after him, oh so that's crazy.
Speaker 1:So if numbers were to tell me anything, and I'm not a numbers guy, they did win one, they won fucking.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just making sure I count. One before him. They won two with him, then one without him, so two, so two without him.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool.
Speaker 2:So they didn't really need your ass. You were a cherry on top.
Speaker 1:No the fuck they didn't, no, they didn't, no, they didn't.
Speaker 2:Let's be honest.
Speaker 1:LeBron just destroyed him the year before and again, I'm not one to After. He had lost to him the year before. So real quick, you're talking about a nigga. That is the ultimate super team joiner.
Speaker 2:You were the reason.
Speaker 1:He is the reason super teams currently exist, because you kept fucking doing it. You kept joining them.
Speaker 2:LeBron's the reason it exists. Oh, cool. Well, thank the.
Speaker 1:Celtics are. Lebron won a championship with Amon Shumpert as his third best option, and Kyrie was hurt.
Speaker 2:Get the fuck out of my face. Yeah, but he won his first two with the Heat I watched LeBron come back three up. But he won his first two with the Heat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but LeBron proved I could do it without him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did after that, for sure Not once, not twice, but three times.
Speaker 1:His best player was Kyrie. That is a duo. Still that's twice. How many times has KD done it? Yes, twice. He's done it Down 3-1, kyrie is nowhere to be found. Lebron wins two more games and then Kyrie's like game seven might as well.
Speaker 2:I'll hit the shot. Yeah, I hit the shot.
Speaker 1:I got you.
Speaker 2:I didn't do nothing before that. Rdc has a bit forever with him, exactly, but again.
Speaker 1:He did nothing for six games.
Speaker 2:He did average like 20-something. It wasn't, but again he still contributed.
Speaker 1:Again. He was averaging 20-something. I'm watching Steph put up 30. And I'm watching Clay put up 25. And LeBron was averaging 30. 40 games 30 to 40 a night. Yeah for sure, if I don't do this, we're not winning, right, okay, and KD has done that to win a championship.
Speaker 2:Kd, no, he has not been the. Yes, I get it.
Speaker 1:I understand, okay, so you were.
Speaker 2:I'm just trying to put respect on these players' names and you're trying to.
Speaker 1:I don't respect people with asterisks. Hakeem O because Jordan left, exactly. Kevin Durant won too, because he left. He joined the opposition, and that's why, russ, don't fuck with your ass, because you was a bitch. Nah, they're friends now, yeah, but I remember watching them motherfuckers play for like three years yeah, because it was different types of basketball they wanted to play.
Speaker 2:I think no it was bullshit.
Speaker 1:You left the team to go join them yeah, no, that part, I think.
Speaker 2:No, it was bullshit. You left the team to go join them. Yeah, no, that part. No again. I was totally against at the time too.
Speaker 1:You're making me out to be, and you don't put an asterisk next to that motherfucker's name.
Speaker 2:Your accolades have an asterisk. I think it's been totally proven. He was the best player on that team. He was the bus driver, okay, cool, so player on the team, yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1:They still could do it without you Before you got there and after you got there, they didn't need you, you needed them.
Speaker 2:They needed him at the time too.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, but again, it has still been proven you needed them. Because if they win one before you and they still win one after you and you still ain't won one since you left.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but the guy they were going against, yeah, yeah, they needed him to go beat LeBron.
Speaker 1:So again, how many has KD won since he's left the Warriors?
Speaker 2:Zero. Oh, that is crazy.
Speaker 1:How many super teams has he joined since he left the Warriors? Two more. He tried to make one in Brooklyn. That didn't work out. So I'm going to go join Phoenix. Phoenix, that didn't work out, okay. So real quick. He keeps joining teams with two other superstars and it keeps not working out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Again, it doesn't always work out, so there's not an abstract to his name.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't put one there.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay. How many championships has he won? Not on a super team.
Speaker 2:How many championships has he won without that super team?
Speaker 1:Yes, I understand how many championships has he won with other super teams? I'm sorry, I must not understand. There's an asterisk next to your name. Like you, hakeem Olajuwon.
Speaker 2:This is why I love podcasts with you Now.
Speaker 1:Hakeem Olajuwon is good. I like Hakeem Olajuwon. He is one of the greatest players of all time.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But don't be mistaken, that chip was given to you. Took that man's father to die. For you to get one, yeah, but put some respect. He should have ate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I agree. I totally agree with that part. I do. That's why I love podcasts with you. I was making one statement that led us into a 10 minute long diatribe.
Speaker 1:I do not like Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant is a little bitch you talk no shit on fucking on twitter, but you do not hold up in interviews or in fucking on the court no, he holds up in interviews bullshit. No, you don't you a bitch. No he's not, you're going far. Nah, if you're not talking like KG, you're not talking. Keep the same energy you had on Twitter he does, he don't.
Speaker 2:He does.
Speaker 1:No, he stops talking. I'm just here to play ball. I'm just here to play ball.
Speaker 2:I'm going to see you play ball.
Speaker 1:He is Fuck the ball bro. I hate Kevin Durant. Honestly, I can't stand Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant is a type of basketball player. I would fist fight you tall, you lanky. I'm going to hit you in the knee and you never play in basketball again. How's that ACL?
Speaker 2:holding up. Let me check and I like when he dunks on people on Twitter, because the people that are talking on Twitter, twitter, are stupid.
Speaker 1:I don't care.
Speaker 2:Look, we can't totally have different opinions on this. That's fine.
Speaker 1:I appreciate Katie a little more than you do, that's okay, I wish it was harder to get to the Hall of Fame because I'd kick this nigga out. You got Eli Manning type Super Bowls. You got Eli Manning type chicks. No, you got Eli Manning type chicks. You got Eli Manning's up six. Now you're just talking shit.
Speaker 2:Two-four, two-four, we're looking like a 50-50. Now you're talking shit.
Speaker 1:You a 50-50, motherfucker? Huh, that's not true. Oh, real quick. How many elite defense does Eli have for two years? Kd?
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm sorry. You're right Eli got hot. He's a 50-50 quarterback even with those defenses.
Speaker 1:And he still has two Super Bowls. That's true, and just like Kevin Durant, he has two tips.
Speaker 2:But Eli, but there's an asterisk on him.
Speaker 1:Because you was not that good.
Speaker 2:No, but Eli. Nobody would talk to Eli saying he's one of the best quarterbacks to ever live. Okay, it's not the truth. If Kevin Durant that Golden State team for those two years he does not get a championship, okay, you cannot convince me otherwise. Even without championships, he'd go down as a top 15, 20 player of all time.
Speaker 1:Either way Again, if he doesn't join that team, he don't get them. I agree with you Most likely yeah, so there's an asterisk on them. You needed them.
Speaker 2:They did not need you, they needed him too At the time. Who did they beat in the finals?
Speaker 1:after who did they beat in the finals in 2022? Who the fuck was it? Was it the Denver Nuggets?
Speaker 2:No, that would have been the Western finals.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Wasn't that? Was that one of the Heat years?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Because the Heat got.
Speaker 1:The Heat made it In 2020.
Speaker 2:The Golden State.
Speaker 1:Um, I fucking hate Kevin Durant Fuck that nigga.
Speaker 2:Obviously, this has been a whole thing.
Speaker 1:I fucking hate Kevin Durant. Why is it? Fuck that nigga? Obviously, this has been a whole thing. Fuck him.
Speaker 2:I fucking hate Kevin Durant. Why is?
Speaker 1:it. Yeah, please be less retarded.
Speaker 2:It's the computer, not me, bro. It's the computer, not me. Championship. Sorry, I go to Wikipedia, bro. What do you want me to do? Um, why does it give me anything but?
Speaker 1:that oh my fucking god.
Speaker 2:if I find it, I'm gonna beat your ass. Golden State Warriors Championships oh fine, fine, I found the right one. 2022 was Celtics.
Speaker 1:Celtics. They put the Celtics in the body bag.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Yes, yes, yes, get the fuck away from me.
Speaker 1:They did not need that, nigga. Go ahead, lebron, the height of his power. Blah, blah, blah, shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up, shut the. They beat the fuck out of the Celtics. That is a fucking super team. They beat the fuck out of Celtics. Celtics are not a super team. Oh cool, jordan Poole is the second best player in that series. Get the fuck out of my face. Fuck out of my face, nigga. You have nothing to say to me. They did not need that, motherfucker. Get the fuck out of my face. There will forever and always be an asterisk and your goddamn gravestone. That's going too far. No, it's not far enough.
Speaker 1:You are good, you are great, you are elite, you are a top 15 player of all time and top 15 don't mean you, not a bitch, and it's unfortunate because I cry every time I see a bitch nigga because you could have been a real nigga one day, but you will never be that guy. No matter what happens, russ will never get a championship and I know that and I will love. Russell Westbrook to the day I die because you know why he stood on business. Fuck nigga.
Speaker 2:If you had to choose who you hate more, would you hate Josh Allen more or KD more? No, fuck Josh Allen. Okay, I just want to make sure, because this diatribe last 10, 15 minutes has made me question there for a second. I'm like, I always thought it was Josh Allen, but I hate Josh Allen. Yeah, obviously no, I don't.
Speaker 1:As a person. I don't hate Josh Allen. I hate everybody else who talks about.
Speaker 2:Josh Allen the hype around Josh Allen.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, yeah, let me get this little pinpoint for you. I don't hate Josh Allen. I don't hate him as a person. He's actually a rather cool guy. Yeah, I hate who they think you are. They think you're good, the hype and the pedestal they put him on. Yeah, fuck that. No, but game recognized. Game you got Henley Seinfeld. I respect that. No, but game recognized game you got. Henley Seinfeld. I respect that my boy. I respect that my boy. Yeah, I can't disrespect you that much.
Speaker 2:No, you can't Game recognized game.
Speaker 1:You must have been balling out. I don't know what the fuck you did, but bravo, bravo, yeah I agree, okay, last thing about basketball Thunder.
Speaker 2:Timberwolves are currently playing game two I don't fucking watch basketball.
Speaker 1:And I don't like it.
Speaker 2:Currently playing game two. Thunder is currently winning 29-25 at the end of the first quarter. Alright, that's about it. I got for basketball. Do we even finish talking about the Pacers? I don't care, it didn't really matter. He hit the celly. It could have been a huge meme if the Pacers managed to lose the game in overtime, but they didn't. They won the game. It all turned out well and they lost in overtime. It would have been crazy, one of the craziest memes of all time.
Speaker 1:It would have just been Reggie Miller again.
Speaker 2:No, because, reggie Miller, they won that.
Speaker 1:They actually still won the series no no.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they beat the Knicks. That was against the Knicks.
Speaker 1:Reggie Miller played against the Bulls in that series.
Speaker 2:No, it was against the Knicks.
Speaker 1:Was it? I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:He sent the Kn home. That's what made it a big deal. Is that I don't calabarton did it against the knicks? Same same as I don't care, okay, I truly genuinely I do not. I know, all right, okay, all right, okay, okay, getting off of the nba. Nfl um tush push is gonna be on for another year motherfuckers.
Speaker 1:Two of you had to fucking ban that shit.
Speaker 2:You don't hate the Tush Push.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think it's bitch made to try to get rid of it. I really do. That was my thought, and you know what one of the worst parts about it is. I was mad that Steelers were one of the teams that voted to ban it, because I'm like that's bitch made.
Speaker 1:Okay, real quick, the team that didn't want to ban it, excluding the Eagles, are some of the stupidest fucking organizations. How? I don't think, so Name the teams that didn't try to ban it.
Speaker 2:I was pulling up the tweet as you were talking Eagles. I was pulling up the tweet as you were talking Eagles yeah, ravens, yeah Browns, lions, jags, dolphins, patriots, steelers, I mean Saints, jets.
Speaker 1:Titans. I kid you, not the list. Who were the first two names? Eagles, ravens Okay. Who was the next name after that? Eagles-ravens? Okay. Who was the next name after that? Browns they signed Diddlers. Next name Lions Okay, respect to them, but they do the fucking tush-push.
Speaker 2:Lions no.
Speaker 1:Yes, they do. They did it twice last year. Next team Jags Autistic Dude. Next team Dolphins Dude. Come on Next team.
Speaker 2:Patriots we're going downhill. Saints and Jets and Titans.
Speaker 1:Okay, you legit have six brain-dead-ass teams.
Speaker 2:And six brain-dead-ass organizations.
Speaker 1:The Ravens do different forms of the fucking tush-push, like, yeah, we can do this shit. And the Eagles, well, they do it. Cool Again. The rest of them, the browns, are just fucking around. They don't know what the fuck they're doing.
Speaker 2:I just think they're like fuck it, you're not gonna be fun for us anyway, let's just why make this whole rule to stop one team, the only team that got close to doing it, as well as the buffalo bills, and they weren't great at it at all. I just think that, especially then coming off a super bowl and this is what one of the things the owner said in the meetings I think he said he talked, spoke for like an hour, he compared it to he said that if you vote to ban the twitch push it's like giving eagles fans a wet dream because they get to realize that they had a play that was so unstoppable.
Speaker 2:We won a super bowl and then the nfl decided to get rid of it.
Speaker 1:I truly don't care.
Speaker 2:I just think it's bitch made. I do. Why try to stop this one team from doing this one thing? Well, If you guys could do the same thing if you wanted to. But then the NFL which again I don't think it's just the NFL teams, I think Roger Goodell and the NFL don't want to see this play because it doesn't look good and they say it's an injury risk. They haven, and they say it's an injury risk and they haven't been doing it long enough to even have that type of data to call it an injury risk. So I really do think it was more about how it looks on television.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm watching Competitively. It's bitch. Made you ever play online Madden? Uh-huh, you should play online Madden in 2021, when the Chiefs have Tyree killed and we're watching a motherfucker run a fucking forward. Vertical for a vertical. Every goddamn play. That's what I'm watching.
Speaker 2:It seems inevitable. I get it. I know I do, but I'm like go ahead.
Speaker 1:Shit's annoying.
Speaker 2:Just don't let them get third and fourth and one, and then you'd be fine. I just think competitively it's bitch made Like. If you're talking about what's on TV, okay, I guess I can have the conversation with you. But like competitively, if you don't want them to see you.
Speaker 1:It's an unstoppable play. You cannot stop the play.
Speaker 2:Don't let them go in fourth and one, third and one.
Speaker 1:Like just don't, if that doesn't happen, you don't have to do it. Don't let them do that, don't do that, don't do that.
Speaker 2:Shut the fuck up, or you can go do it yourself. Bro Joe, go get the offensive line to be able to do it like they.
Speaker 1:You're genuinely pissing me off so much I don't want to podcast anymore.
Speaker 2:I didn't think you'd be on this. I didn't think so. I'm surprised.
Speaker 1:This play's fucking gay. This play's fucking gay. I truly I can't fucking say in this play, this play's fucking gay, it's the goddamn worst.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Again, it'll only be for another year.
Speaker 2:The NFL will come back and try to get rid of it again, for sure, because they just want to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when it happens to the Lions five fucking times in the goddamn fourth quarter, they're going to be like, yeah, fuck this play.
Speaker 2:I give credit to the Lions because at least they have to deal with the Eagles at some point in the playoffs, exactly, and again, it hasn't been done to the Lions.
Speaker 1:They didn't get to play the Eagles. When it's done on them 37 fucking times and Dan. Campbell's, like my nigga. They did it, I kid you not like 13 times against the Commanders.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they had to, because the Commanders kept jumping offside.
Speaker 1:Just in that game they had already done it nine times.
Speaker 2:They're running the play yeah, it is fourth, and it is third and less than three.
Speaker 2:They're doing it I don't know, but again and this is this is where my point comes in is that I think they could still do it without needing the extra player to push somebody, because they weren't trying to ban the play, they were just trying to ban the a player from behind hair hurts, being able to push him forward. So I do think they're off the line is so good enough to where they'd't trying to ban the play, they were just trying to ban a player from behind Hare Hurts being able to push him forward. So I do think their off the line is still good enough to where they'd be able to do something similar to that, but without the player pushing Jalen Hurts, and they'd still get it most of the time.
Speaker 1:Do you know what that is? It's called a QB sneak. Fuck nigga.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's not stopping them. So it's not stopping them. Qb sneaks don't fucking work, so don't run them in the NFL. It just comes off as petty as fuck.
Speaker 1:Again, qb sneaks don't work in the NFL.
Speaker 2:They do because Brady did it all the time and it worked. He was like one of the more efficient ones at doing it Because you have the one nigga that he don't run. He's the least likely motherfucker you expect to do this.
Speaker 1:He chooses his moments. If the eagles are third in anything, they're doing it, they're doing it. That's the problem. Brady would pick and choose good moments to do it. Yeah, no, the eagles are third and one. They they've been third and one seven times what's happening?
Speaker 2:they ran it third and one. Seven fucking times they're doing it.
Speaker 1:There's nothing we can do against it. Brady's like you know what? I'm going to fake it. No, they don't fake it. They're not going to lie to you. You can't run from it. Dread it. It's inevitable, it's coming all the same.
Speaker 2:It's almost like, as soon as it comes, defense players are like oh, we know what's coming, fuck this.
Speaker 1:They're not faking this shit. You just compared it to Brady. Brady would fake this shit. Never did it again.
Speaker 2:Why bother? They did it once to show you, but why bother?
Speaker 1:Who cares that shit's annoying Fuck out of here.
Speaker 2:I'm surprised. I really am. I want to go home, alright, let's not talk about that, I'm so done. I want to go home, alright. Next one NFL they did approve the going to the Pro Bowl. I mean, sorry, the Olympics having flag football. The NFL approved it, so they're going to be able to allow NFL players to go play flag football in the Olympics starting in 2028.
Speaker 2:So I want to use this opportunity to try to come up with a team that we think could be cool. Again, I'm not going to sit here and just say, oh, mahomes is going to do it, justin Jefferson, I just want to like, I want to have more fun with it rather than just saying again obviously we all know that whoever the United States sends, they're going to go destroy, just like the NBA is doing for a while, sending NBA play, sending United has been sending NBA players to play those games. So for the rules part, it's 50 yards. It's gonna be a 50 yard field. Seems the team's gonna start like 20 yard line, I think. Um, you have four plays to get across. Get across halfway. If you don't turn over, if you throw a pick, the team that plays defense gets it from wherever they play. Touchdown scoring is the same. You get a touchdown if you you can go for a one pointer which is like five, two yards out, or you can go for a two pointer that's five yards out. You could do it that way. It's gonna be five on five, um, and I think max players you can send is 10 and you have to be able to have five players on offense, five players on defense. So I figured this would be a good, good way to come up with a team we think could be a fun team to watch in the scenario where they are, yes, going to destroy whatever country comes up with players to play in the olympics. So, obviously, if you're going quarterback first, I think my home, we have options, right, we have my homes werow.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I don't even think you need a guy like Allen. I think you need more guys that are like surgeons in the pocket, because you do get to have up to two blitzers, as long as they start seven yards away from the line of scrimmage. So you've got up to two players going after the quarterback, after they start the play, minus scrimmage. So you've got up to two players going after the quarterback, after they start to play. So you need to have a quarterback with that little bit of movement. So, jace, I think you've pretty much said for sure that you think Mahomes is probably going to be the guy Three years from now. He'll be like 31 years old. He'll still be within his prime. Be good to go. I think it'd be fun to watch Joe Burrow go do it. And I think it'd be fun to watch Joe Burrow go do it. And I think another guy I think CJ Shaw would be great at it Because of his pinpoint accuracy and the fact he can move a little bit too. So I do think those would be two other players we could possibly use. But you're probably going to pick Mahomes, right? You guys are talking in the microphone man. We're not talking about the things you're mad at me for anymore.
Speaker 2:Um, running back options, I think bijan would be probably the number one option I think of, because he has the speed. He can catch the ball out of the backfield. He can be a game-breaker that way, so he can do all of that I think, a kind of an under like one guy that nobody would ever think of. I think Travion would be great in this scenario. Don't look at me like that, bro. He'd be in his physical prime three years from now. He has the game-breaking speed. He can catch the ball out of the backfield. He can still run the football effectively. Why wouldn't you use that? Give me a better option.
Speaker 1:Jamir.
Speaker 2:Gibbs Crazy, yeah, shut the fuck up. Have good takes, jamir Gibbs, jamir Gibbs. Have good takes Tremion's not a good take it's not a bad take.
Speaker 1:Jameer Gibbs, jameer Gibbs, jameer Gibbs. What are we doing?
Speaker 2:I'm just trying to have fun.
Speaker 1:You are a list of cold takes Guys, here's a list of what will piss Jays off today.
Speaker 2:I'm not trying to, I really am not. I really. Those last two things I did not think would get you as upset as it did. I really didn't, but it just happens. You know we'll go with Gibbs. It makes sense. I still think Travion would be great. Bijan would also be a great option. Wide receiver Chase yes, jefferson, jefferson. I put in a flex player because we can either have it be a tight end or we can have another wide receiver Do it that way, because I try to look up the rules. I'm not sure if there has to be somebody snapping the ball or you just get to start from a spot. So I'm not sure about that part. So would you rather go with the tight end or just go with Brock Bowers, because he'd be such a weapon coming off like catching the football anyway? Hello, are you going to talk to me? I'm not trying to make you upset no more, I promise.
Speaker 1:I am done talking to you. I want to go home. I'm done. You've lost I. I don't like you, I'm so again.
Speaker 2:This is what it's insane. I I didn't think. I didn't think it would make it so bad. I swear I wasn't trying to come up with crazy takes to make you upset. I swear that's not what I thought would happen. I'd go Flex. I'd probably go Brock Bowers. Do you know a player that could be very good in this scenario? Travis Hunter. No.
Speaker 1:Because he could play both. We're done, I'm done. End the podcast.
Speaker 2:I'm not in the podcast.
Speaker 1:You just said this trash ass, nigga. I'm so excited for you too. End the podcast.
Speaker 2:But he'd be versatile. End the podcast. He could play on both sides, so you could have him play offense if you want to, or you just have him play defense. I'm done, I'm done, I'm done. Nope, I'm done. What other corners would you pick?
Speaker 1:Derek Stingley would be a great option, patrick Sertain.
Speaker 2:He'll be like 29, 30 by that point. I think we'd have better guys by then. He's a little older. He'd be outside of his athletic prime, especially at that position Corners age fast.
Speaker 1:We both know this. We've already done a support podcast.
Speaker 2:Name five Canadian players right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're saying it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:Again one mexican player, I don't know man, I don't know. Again, I think we are christian gonzalez. Oh, I'd be sick not a mexican player, though american born yeah, I know, but I'm saying he'd be awesome to add him to the us team though he's also dominican, just you know again, he's born in America, so I'm going to stick with that. Yeah, okay, cool.
Speaker 1:You have five minutes and then I'm going home.
Speaker 2:No, come on, I'm so done. I'm so angry right now.
Speaker 1:Sauce Gardner. No, that nigga's not good, not that good already okay his nickname's cool okay.
Speaker 2:So, gonzalez, I'll go, gonzalez, gonzalez, I'd go Stingley, I still think he'd be in his authentic prime. He'd be very good. He's probably one of the best ones now. So so, and then there's like cornerback slash safeties. You know what? I could have made you more upset by saying, oh, it's gonna be three years from now, jeremiah smith, because you know he'll be the best wide receiver by then. And then you'll be looking at me like I have three heads on my three heads on my body.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I'm trying to be reasonable. I'm not trying to make you upset, it's just not, as, again, it just happens, you're gonna keep giving me side eye. That's not necessary. All right, I'm gonna keep going. Cornerback slash safeties. I think we'll just probably go with more cornerbacks, or? All right, I'm going to keep going Cornerback slash safeties. I think it would just probably go with more cornerbacks, or I'm. I think this one might get makeup set too. Do you think Michael Parsons would be perfect for this scenario? If you need to have a rusher, because there's nobody that would be able to get away from him, no matter who you put a quarterback, he doesn't have to worry about being blocked in a running place. How can you be mad at me for that when you pick henderson for that too. No, I'm just saying he doesn't have to worry about against any blockers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, against nobody. No, I totally agree with the fact. I think this is the perfect spot for him, because he doesn't have to worry about bigger men blocking him at all. All he has to do is run them down, run down the quarterback. Oh my God, worry about bigger men blocking him at all. All he has to do is run them down, run down the quarterback. You like it, dude, overall? You like podcasting? Come on, do you have a better option, as a rush type of guy, to get after a quarterback? You need to have at least one, because you can have up to two rushers, two blitzers, at the same time.
Speaker 1:Jalen Carter.
Speaker 2:No, he's not going to run any down Like he's still. That's a bigger dude. I want a guy that can run sideline to sideline.
Speaker 1:My nigga, we are not facing athletes.
Speaker 2:We're going to face some athletes.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay, okay, you're right.
Speaker 2:They're not going to be NFL guys. I'm going to put Kyle Hamilton up there at the fucking safety.
Speaker 1:That'd be sick.
Speaker 2:So he can come kill any nigga that thinks he wants to get past Jalen Carter. Hamilton makes a lot of sense. I know that's awesome.
Speaker 1:We Hamilton makes a lot of sense. I know that's awesome. We're not facing athletes, y'all are regular shmegular ass motherfuckers.
Speaker 2:Hamilton's a great addition. I like that.
Speaker 1:I'm not here to play. I want to see them in flick pain.
Speaker 2:Again, it's flag football.
Speaker 1:I wish this was like 10 years ago so I could see Brian Dawkins kill a nigga.
Speaker 2:But they had pads on. They're not going to have pads on now.
Speaker 1:It don't matter. It don't matter, brian Dawkins will still go kill him. Yeah, you're not wrong. I don't want to be here anymore. End the podcast. I have nothing left to say to you.
Speaker 2:Nothing. No to say to you nothing, no, okay, um, is there another safety that you like? You'd like to pick kyle hampson's great, I think you could go with a. I think you could go with a.
Speaker 1:Don't have it play into the podcast please. Why are you going to be weird bro?
Speaker 2:I'm weird, I'm gonna go with freaking. I'll just say Nick Emanwuri, because he's just a crazy safety and crazy physical. I think three years from now he'll be good.
Speaker 1:Yes, okay game three years from now. I'll be good, yes, Okay, game. You're being weird bro.
Speaker 2:I want to go home. Okay, One other rule. That was a rule that a legit conversation now to maybe hopefully power us through the rest of this. The lions proposed a rule change to make the playoffs. Instead of it being automatically the four division winners getting a home playoff game, they want to make it just straight seating.
Speaker 1:I don't like this one either.
Speaker 2:I don't like either. We can agree on this for sure. Okay, so this is where we're at Straight seating because they don't want to have to worry about a team. You know, I think last year the difference would be, instead of Houston getting a home playoff game, be the Chargers, because the playoffs Chargers had a better record in Houston, but Houston won their division.
Speaker 2:I think I think you probably you probably turn my head around on this having the nugget of a team wanting to win their own division is a bigger deal than potentially helping teams that didn't win their division because they're in harder divisions have to get a home playoff game. On its face, I think it makes sense, but I think if you really wanted to change this to where this isn't a big issue, I think they just need to change the way they do their scheduling. If you want these teams to not be able to feast on bad divisions, because that's how they do it every year. All these teams in these divisions potentially have a bad division. They have to go play, which is why the nsc north went and had some like three teams that made the playoffs because they played one of the worst divisions in football in the nfc south. So I like the. So the idea that you keep that. Not to mention, no owner of the nfl is going to sit there and be like I'm going to give up a potential home playoff game because I don't have a better record than another team. I if I can just win my division and get one. So I think overall that whole rule like not having it go go through makes a lot of sense and that's that's where I sit on that.
Speaker 2:Oh, and for the play of, for college football too, they did say yes to straight seating now. So for the college football playoff they're going to start doing straight seating. That makes a lot more sense of them having that, because Boise and Arizona State did not deserve to have a gosh darn bye because playing in their division is a lot easier and just winning them should not give it Because they're playing such different football than teams in the SEC and the Big Ten are. You should not give it because they're playing such different football than teams in the sec and the big 10 are. You should not get automatic by when you're not playing as hard of a schedule as those other teams that may have lost a few more games because they're playing in harder schedules. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:Are you mad at me for that too? Yes, no, maybe. So I know you hate me. You want to go home? Okay, I got it. You're just here, so you won't get. Actually, there's no getting fined. You just really want this to be over. I get it. I didn't think I turned you off totally on this. I really didn't. Um, there's nothing else in the NBA. I wanted to talk about NFL wise. I think we've talked about everything, um, but yeah, that's pretty much it. Let's go ahead and end this before Jace. I think we've talked about everything, but yeah, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1:Let's go ahead and end this before Jace goes any farther into the depth of craziness. I hate your dumb black ass, bro. I hate you so much Again.
Speaker 2:I didn't think I was going to bring up so many things for you to hate me for Dude.
Speaker 1:I really didn't. I am fuming right now. I am heated right now, dude. I am puming right now. I am heated right now, dude, I am heated.
Speaker 2:I don't know, man. I honestly I have no recollection as to how this got so contentious. I really didn't.
Speaker 1:I am so upset right now the KD thing.
Speaker 2:I understand because we've always been opposing on KD.
Speaker 1:Dude, I'm so angry right now my skin is physically warm.
Speaker 2:I'm so angry at you right now, but the Tushpush thing is crazy.
Speaker 1:My skin is physically warm. I'm that angry at you right now. I am physically hot. I'm so mad right now. I am like dude, if I could turn into a fucking Hulk, I would. I'm that mad. I fucking hate KD. Fine and fuck the Twitch.
Speaker 2:push, it's gay that one I could have guessed, but the Twitch push thing I didn't think I hate it so goddamn much.
Speaker 1:I hate watching that shit. It's fucking gay oh.
Speaker 2:I have one. One other thing, one legit, because I saw this tweet. It's a player comparison. I want you to take a guess on who it is. Follow me, I gotta. It's a player comparison. I want you to take a guess on who it is. Follow me. I got to find it. I bookmarked it on Twitter. Give me a second Bookmarks. Okay, two different quarterbacks in the NFL? Okay, I'll give you one. I'll give you player A. Player B Record 22 and 38. Total yards 14,898 yards. Pass to touchdown interception ratio 69 touchdowns, 46 interceptions, 85 passer rating and then a 63.3% completion percentage. Okay, and this is player B. His record is 22, 37, and 1. His record is 22-37-1. His total yards is 14,605. His pass touchdown interception is 62-42. Passer rating is 84.3. And his completion percentage is 64%. Which player would you rather have, a or B? B? Would you like to know who those two players are? Do you have a guess?
Speaker 1:by chance.
Speaker 2:Player B is Daniel Jones. Player A is Trevor Lawrence Fucking crazy.
Speaker 1:Didn't he have another really bad comparison? I feel like Trevor Lawrence had two bad comparisons.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but that's pretty bad to me, me like dan jones on his third team as a pro and he he's battling with uh richardson for the colts job right now. And trevor lawrence is looked at as like one of the better quarterbacks in the nfl and but he hasn't really proved it whatsoever. And again I think he's hitting his point where people are starting to question him a lot, even if everybody recognizes his physical tools. And Daniel Jones on the way on the other side of it, where everybody sees maybe the physical stuff is maybe there, but nobody really considers him all that great of a quarterback. And Trevor Lawrence is one of the best paid quarterbacks in the NFL. So I saw that and had to bring it up to you because I'm like I do have one more thing. I got ready keep three, cut five. So I saw that and had to bring it up to you because I'm like Jace will find this funny.
Speaker 1:I do have one more thing. I got ready. Okay, keep three, cut five.
Speaker 2:Keep three, cut five.
Speaker 1:Running backs. Okay, I'm going to give you eight names.
Speaker 2:Okay, you got to keep three. Cut five.
Speaker 1:It's random, Okay ready?
Speaker 2:Do I get to know all of them, or do I have to decide whether?
Speaker 1:to cut them or keep them? Yeah, you have to decide, right then and there.
Speaker 2:Okay, so this is like blind without knowing the next one. Yep, it's like a blind ranking type of thing.
Speaker 1:Yep, okay, got it Cool, go for it. Number one, Bucky Irving.
Speaker 2:Bucky Irving's so good, but I'll cut.
Speaker 1:Number two, Joe Mixon.
Speaker 2:Oh Joe Mixon, oh Joe Mixon's so good. The thing is I only keep three and I have four more spots to cut. Yeah, because of his age, I'll say cut.
Speaker 1:Number three, Kyron Williams.
Speaker 2:Cut. I don't really like his style of running back.
Speaker 1:Number four Chewbacca Cut. I don't really like his style of running back.
Speaker 2:Number four, chubabard Cut. I don't see him as he's not really all that dynamic to me. That's four cuts already. I got to keep three of the next four. All right guys, go for it. Makes me want to keep Bucky Irving. Wish I could go back.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what number I'm at. Number five Aaron Jones.
Speaker 2:I don't like his age. I'd rather cut him. I don't want this anymore. You've ruined the game. How have I ruined it? Game, no fun. You gave me all these Scoring backs. I don't like these are all top ten Running back last year, the only one I'd want to keep. How have I ruined it? You gave me all these quarterback's.
Speaker 1:I don't like.
Speaker 2:These are all top 10 running back losses. The only one I'd want to keep his like change my mind on is Bucky Irving. Why'd you cut Chuba Hubbard? I don't he's. I don't think he's dynamic. I don't think he's all that dynamic of a running back.
Speaker 1:Oh, 1,200 yards ain't dynamic enough, no Okay.
Speaker 2:Again, this is blind. I don't know what the next name you're going to bring up, so I'm thinking like, oh, he'll bring up Saquon Barkley or something. I don't know what's coming. That's what makes this kind of thing hard.
Speaker 1:Legit, you have to keep my last three acts. Yeah, sorry to look that way, what do you mean? There's only three guys left.
Speaker 2:Yeah, can I keep Bucky Irving no?
Speaker 1:He was number one for a reason Dang.
Speaker 2:I feel bad about that one, but the rest I don't feel bad about at all.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, the next three guys were Chase Brown, deandre Swift and JK Dobbins. So those are your three running backs you're keeping.
Speaker 2:Dang, this is a bad list. I don't like this at all. That's the fucking point. Bucky Irving, I'd keep if I know all the names now.
Speaker 1:No, you don't get to pick.
Speaker 2:Well, obviously, but I'm going to.
Speaker 1:No, you're dumbass, fucked up. I gave you a good dude first pick.
Speaker 2:Again. I didn't know what was coming next, so I made my choice. That's the point. I made my choice. My bad, real quick Bucky Irving is the only one I feel bad about.
Speaker 1:Kyron Williams, Chuba Hubbard, Aaron Jones, all above him, I know.
Speaker 2:but I like Bucky Irving because he can do a lot more catching out of the back. I think he's a lot more Jones. I like him a lot. I think the only thing for me is age. And then, who was the other one? Chuba, I just don't like. I don't find him all that dynamic to me, not my style of back, I guess. Okay back, I guess. Okay, I don't think you could have expected me to be that negative about all these players.
Speaker 1:Okay, just looking at it now, chuba Hubbard had more receiving yards. I thought I'd pull it up, just so you know I'm right here on ESPN, you ruin everything.
Speaker 2:Everything, everything, everything. What do you have? 1,100 yards, 10 touchdowns. Okay, fine, that might be on me. All right, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to ruin the game, but you know, I don't know. All right, you cut the first five, motherfuckers. I can't imagine.
Speaker 1:It's not like they're all drastically different. They were all within a few hundred yards rushing and a few hundred yards and a few like. There's less than 50 yards between all of them receiving. You cut five starting. Yeah, all eight of them are in the top 15 of the bags.
Speaker 2:This motherfucker. Alright, guys, I didn't think this would be as contentious of a podcast as it ended up being, but it did. I hope it came up with a little bit of fun times maybe, if not a lot of negative Again. That's the part of the thing with us being brothers and having this podcast that we kind of get on each other's nerves at times. I'm so physically warm. Hopefully it led to some hope. So fucking hot. Hopefully our next podcast we can be a little more agreeable with each other. Oh my god, all right, are you done calling me names now?
Speaker 2:dude, I'm so mad all right, before jace kills me on podcast, I'll make sure I end it first. Um, if you've been listening for the podcast for a while, we appreciate you very much. If you're just now joining on, hopefully you can you like this or find another episode you like of us, maybe being a little more agreeable and having a little more better conversation. But again, this is the ups and downs of having a podcast with two brothers. So it is what it is sometimes. If you like us, hope you like us and enjoy us enough to join us on the ride of talking about sports the dumbest way possible. If you, um, if you like us, enjoy us.
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Speaker 1:This has been the James Lewis Podcast. Thank you guys for listening, thank you guys for always listening. You guys have a nice day and a nice night and a nice Memorial weekend. Bye, y'all.
Speaker 2:Bye y'all, see y'all next week.