JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
Between the Lines: Aaron Rodgers Signs with Pittsburgh and NBA Conference Champions Face Off
The unexpected can happen in professional sports, and Game 1 of the NBA Finals proved just that. Despite building an early 15-point lead and forcing 19 first-half turnovers, the heavily-favored Oklahoma City Thunder fell victim to Tyrese Haliburton's clutch game-winner with 0.3 seconds left, giving the Pacers a shocking 1-0 series lead. While Haliburton didn't dominate statistically, his growing reputation for late-game heroics adds another chapter to what feels increasingly like a team of destiny.
Meanwhile, the NFL offseason continues to deliver consequential moves. Aaron Rodgers has officially signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers on a one-year deal, creating an intriguing situation in the AFC North. We dive deep into what this means for a Steelers franchise that seems perpetually stuck in a cycle of 9-10 win seasons followed by early playoff exits. Is Rodgers, coming off an Achilles injury at 40+ years old, the answer behind an offensive line with significant question marks?
Other notable NFL developments include Frank Ragnow's surprising retirement from the Lions at just 29, shoulder issues for promising young quarterbacks Anthony Richardson and CJ Stroud, and our comprehensive breakdown of the NFC South division. We analyze each team's schedule game-by-game, projecting the Falcons and Buccaneers to battle for division supremacy while explaining why the Saints might struggle to reach even six wins this season.
Whether you're an NBA Finals enthusiast or getting ready for the NFL season, this episode provides detailed analysis and unfiltered opinions on the biggest stories in sports. Join us next time when we create the all-time team of backup players who somehow earned Super Bowl rings without making significant contributions!
welcome back to the podcast. Today's friday, june the 6th, back another podcast we're back.
Speaker 2:Sorry for missing last week. Um, I think it was a whole time thing. Really couldn't get it figured out and then I got kind of got sick he's lying.
Speaker 1:I had an AA meeting to go to.
Speaker 2:He definitely. If he did, that would be news to me, but I don't think that was the case. I got sick a little bit. I'm still kind of getting over the full throat thing. But we're here now. We're here talking about sports, doing our thing, and there's a decent amount of things to talk about.
Speaker 1:So Are you dead ass?
Speaker 2:What About? What? Okay, oh, you're oh fun.
Speaker 1:Can't evolve him right.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh Interesting.
Speaker 1:You have to flip the phone. That's hilarious. That's fucking dumb.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe. So let's start with basketball, kind of get through that, that, and then we'll go ahead and go on to the nfl stuff. So from when we last podcasted, there was still the a the western conference finals, eastern conference finals going on um. With that being the case, you have the thunder who ran through the timberwolves without much of an issue. Really, it was just like the Thunder. I mean, the Timberwolves had no chance in that series whatsoever. People wanted to start trying to blame Ant and I'm like it really wasn't Ant's fault. I'm like that team was just not ready.
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 2:Thunder were like playing like you stole something from them and they were just going to keep taking from you, right. And everybody's like, oh, now it's Ant's time to keep taking from you, right. So like, and everybody's like, oh, now it's time to take that next step. And I'm like, okay, I get it. You want to be a superstar and sometimes you have to take that next step competitively in order to do that.
Speaker 1:That boy is a superstar.
Speaker 2:I think so too, but like I'm not going to go too deep into that conversation, I don't really think that.
Speaker 2:I think it's stupid, I don't know. I think the NBA is way too starved for having their superstars, because they have held on to having LeBron and Steph for the last 20 years or so More LeBron than Steph. They've held on too long to having these specific stars KD, lebron and Steph that now they're like, hey, what are we going to do without them? Because again, it happened with Jordan too. When Jordan was leaving, we're like, hey, who's gonna be the next Jordan? And then it was kind of a little bit of a void there until Kobe kind of filled it and the next thing, you know, lebron showed up. But I'm not gonna sit here and like just say, oh, who's gonna be the next superstar of the league. I feel like that's a little bit arbitrary and, let's be honest, it's the best when it happens, naturally, anyway. So let's just let it happen, rather than trying to force somebody into a spot, especially anthony edwards, who doesn't really say he wants it I would assume most people don't want it I think there's some people that do.
Speaker 2:They want the stardom, they want the money, they want all that that comes with it, the power, the social power. But like, let's be honest, anthony edwards wants to live his life, have a bunch of kids by a bunch of women.
Speaker 1:And pay out right for them, did you?
Speaker 2:hear. That was the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:It's gangster on one hand, but on the other hand, if he doesn't want anything to do with the kid, that's kind of sad. No, it's reasonable. It's not reasonable that woman's like 38. Yeah, but that then you have to take responsibility for it, I can, I pay. He paid 1.8. Take it Alright. Sorry, Fiscal responsibility he took, but moral responsibility is what he probably should take.
Speaker 1:It ain't morally motherfucking problem? Well, it is, we rich, rich.
Speaker 2:Again, if he didn't want that to be a problem, he'd either put a rubber on or give himself a vasectomy, because apparently, I'm rich, I don't have to.
Speaker 1:I I'm rich, I don't have to. I was able to pay our right Again. He's at that. He is allowed to do that. You know why that boy rich, it's not my problem. 1.8. Write the check.
Speaker 2:You wanted money.
Speaker 1:I got you.
Speaker 2:Thank god that boy met her in Georgia.
Speaker 1:She tried to file in California. That was the other thing that got her all types of messed up. Oh, she tried to file in california, where it's a woman's state. They vote for the woman and the kid and that boy's like nope, you are from georgia and georgia's an equal party state. Caught her ass lacking. She wanted money from that man. She got it. Yeah, she did.
Speaker 2:Not as much as she probably would have if it was California.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and that's what got her screwed. You try to file in a different state you are not from. Again, but he knew what he was getting into when he was dealing with that woman, because she had a baby with another celebrity of some sort Again, and when she got caught lacking and the judge was like that's crazy yeah, but ultimately he got caught lacking. Yes, but 1.8, that's a drop in the bucket for that boy. That boy scoffed at that 1.8. I guess, I guess, man, I'll make that in a game.
Speaker 2:Super Max. He's not in a game, yet Not in a game.
Speaker 1:That boy's on a Super Max, joe. What makes you know you're not?
Speaker 2:that super, super max. He's on a super max, but not like a super duper max still is what it is. Hey, whatever, drop in a bucket how he decides to live his life is not on me.
Speaker 1:That's fine. I want to be like him. I aspire to be that all right.
Speaker 2:So thunder took care of business in the western conference. In the eastern conference it was a little bit more of a fight it out type of series. Pacers ended up winning in six. The knicks had a couple moments where they felt like they could have done some things, but it's just, the pacers kept running up and down the basketball court. They just kept running and they just said, hey, whether the knicks make a bucket, miss a bucket, we're just going to get out and run. And the knicks could not take it, could not keep up with the pace that pacers like to play with.
Speaker 1:Real quick. The Thunder beats. They're going to beat the Brakes off the Pacers, right you?
Speaker 2:didn't see what happened last night. No, we'll get to that, but Carl Anthony Towns can't play any lick of defense. Who? Why would I forget the other guys?
Speaker 1:Jalen Brunson.
Speaker 2:Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson can't play a lick of defense. Brunson at least knows what he's doing. He at least tries. He just can't. Carl Anthony Towns, with the size that he has, with the length that he has, should be a lot better defender than what he is and he isn't. And there were so many times that he was the guy that was what to do, Running around with a chicken with his head cut off?
Speaker 1:What about a miscues?
Speaker 2:Right and apparently right after that series was over, there was a story that came out that said the Knicks were tired of Carl Anthony Towns not really trying on defense and not really taking responsibility for his lack of defensive intensity. So that came out right after the series was over, so obviously somebody was ready to pop off with that as soon as the Knicks lost the series. Now what's going to happen after this? Are they going to go after KD? Are they going to try to trade Cat? Are they going to go after, potentially, giannis? Who knows what the case is going to be. We'll react to that stuff when we get to it. But, like, obviously Giannis would be great, but I don't know how you're gonna have all three of those guys on the same court doesn't really make sense. You're probably gonna have to trade cat in order to make that happen. And but I did hear this one statement that kind of is true is that we having having defensive or offensively deficient players on our teams, like having knuckleheads on your team you could have one, you can't have two and the fact that nick's best two players are defensively like they are terrible, it makes it a big, a much bigger issue. So, with that being the case, now they have since then they have fired coach tom tibideau, who was their head coach that, honestly, has done a lot more as a head coach for that team than any other coach has in the last 20 something years. So everybody was like it's not his fault which it isn't. I think he did the probably the best he could with that roster that he had and I think it goes more on the players, which has kind of lent itself into.
Speaker 2:Either the Knicks kind of decided before this playoffs even started that they were going to fire him. It didn't really matter unless they won the championship or they've gotten word from a guy like Giannis or a guy like KD. He's like hey, if you want me to have a chance to come there, I'm not going to play for Tibbs. Who knows how that necessarily is going to go. But it doesn't change the fact that I think the Pacers were just the better team between the two. The Knicks were like they were hanging on by a thread for most of the games they had played throughout the whole postseason and the Pacers were just good enough to where they could close the door on them and lock and put away the key. It is what it is Now. That gets into the game. Last night game one of the um of the finals, right literally the, the uh, the thunder go up by 10 to 15 points very early on in the game. Defensive intensity is like crazy.
Speaker 2:They had the pacers had 19 turnovers in the first half damn and I don't think it was necessarily all because the pace were just lazy. With the basketball, the Thunder were taking their lunch money. Every time that they could get after a ball they were doing it. They were getting turnovers. But the problem was is that they weren't really getting a lot of points off those turnovers, which is how those 10-point leads didn't turn into 20 or 30-point leads, which is what the Thunder did to the Timberwolves. Pretty much all of the Western Conference Finals is that they turned those 10-point leads into 15-20. But last night the difference was that even throughout that game it just felt like the Thunder were able to keep a 10 to 15-point lead, but they were never able to truly put the Pacers away, because even as much as the Pacers didn't play good ball, they were able to sustain it. They shot the three ball, good enough. And then it comes to the end of the game where it is like and watching it you almost felt like the Thunder fans didn't realize that the game was still close until it finally happened and it was 15 seconds left Pacers have the I mean the Thunder have the ball. If they get a bucket, the game's pretty much over, because they were up by one. At that point. If they get a bucket it's over. If they don't, pacers get the ball back and Pacers manage to get a stop, stop them, get the ball to Halliburton and Halliburton hits the game winner with three-tenths of a second left. Thunder miss the last shot that they have at the basket. They lose the game.
Speaker 2:I and I, honestly, I went into, I bet on, I bet on the series. I bet on the series is that the it was thunder minus a game and a half for the whole series. So as long as the thunder win the series, either four or five or six games, I win my bet. Because I'm like, I'm just like, hey, everybody goes into. I think the Thunder is like the biggest um favorite in the finals in like the last 20 years. So, like a lot of people truly believe the Thunder, the are just the better team.
Speaker 2:But the way that game went last night it was, it was just the pace was just held on. They stayed in the game even though Halliburton didn't necessarily have that great of a night. He really didn't. Halliburton had like 10 points Like he really did not. It was like 10 rebounds, like 9 assists. He didn't necessarily have an amazing game, but I think Halliburton is already in the top three of game tying or game winning shots in the last two minutes in the playoffs. He's already in the top three all-time. So with all that being the case, I'm just like all this kind of stuff is just like it's starting to feel like the Pacers are the team of destiny to a certain degree.
Speaker 1:You've said that before and you were wrong as fuck.
Speaker 2:About what, when I said what.
Speaker 1:Team of destiny. Those exact words I've uttered from your mouth and I think I watched the team lose a championship.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying they are, I'm saying it feels like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, verbatim, I've heard that exact statement come out of your mouth.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you're talking about the Chiefs. I get it. I know I said it with the Chiefs.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I watched the team not just lose, get beat the fuck up. Well, but the Eagles just came out and just said hey, True, but you said team of destiny.
Speaker 2:Yes, I did say there that they are the team. It seems like they are the team of destiny. Yeah, because they kept winning games throughout the regular season that like they should not be winning these games.
Speaker 1:So what happens if now the Thunder loses?
Speaker 2:If the Thunder win.
Speaker 1:Who do you say that the?
Speaker 2:Pacers, pacers, yeah, what happened to them? I just Again, that could be the case. The Thunder are the better team In my estimation. What most people's estimation is, the Thunder are better from top to bottom, but I think so. If the Thunder end up winning the series, then fine. It kind of ended up how everybody thought so, how everybody thought the series would go, but it's just at some point we have to give the Pacers some type of credit here Is that they keep hanging around.
Speaker 2:They keep coming back from these double-digit deficits and Halliburton keeps hitting these shots. He keeps doing it. Man, I'm like, again, it's one thing to have one burst. He hasn't really done this whole career. This is like this playoff run. He's just been out of his mind and I'm just like I don't know.
Speaker 2:Am I gonna sit here and say the pacers now should win the series? I'm not going to, because it just felt like in getting that first game, like um shea got his 40 points, like he had a great outing. It wasn't like he sucked, it was the guys around him didn't really give as much as they probably should have and they got out rebounded like crazy. They still got their steals. They like everything kind of went the Thunder's way until it was time to finish the game and they couldn't do it, would I be terribly surprised? The Pacers won the series? Yeah, for sure I would be, but I just think that the Pacers have shown that if you give them any type of chance to come back, they will. So I just think the Thunder have to play a lot better offense in Game 2 in order to win this. In whatever games that are left, in order to win this series. And I think that the Thunder, as dominant as they have been all season, they have their issues. I think that's the same with both these teams. Neither of these teams are perfect. It's just the thunder have been able to push past that and have been really dominant throughout this year, and the pacers have it. And now the pacers just are showing that in a way that none of the other teams that the thunder faced on the western conference side of the bracket were able to, I guess, other than denver. I guess denver was able to really push them to the limit, but outside of that, like nobody else did in the on their side of the bracket. So I don't know it's gonna be a very if all these games go like this.
Speaker 2:I would definitely love the series a lot more. It'll be a fun watch, but like it could, just like you said, it could just as easily go. The Thunder just like cap off, like these next four games straight, or they win the series series 6-2, sorry, 4-2, and win the series and it, you know, will go how everybody thought it would. So it was just a great game. Last night. Halliburton hit the shots he needs to and he keeps doing it, so you have to give the credit to the Pacers. But at the same time, I want the whole series to go like this, because I really necessarily want a total, like you know, drubbing and all that. So that's all I got on basketball man. I really don't have a lot more on that. I don't think there's really any other stories that I definitely had to talk about.
Speaker 2:Um, no, I have nothing else so let's go ahead and go on the NFL stuff. Do you want to get to the? Get to the?
Speaker 1:news now, I guess I don't know all right.
Speaker 2:So we'll start with the news on the steelers that they got yesterday and then we'll start talking about our general thought discussion on the afc north and kind of talk about that. So news for the pittsburgh steelers. Yesterday it finally happened. The thing that everybody thought was wondering whether it would happen or when it would happen. I think for me it was more when, rather than if, rodgers has made his decision clear that he's going to sign with the Pittsburgh Steelers and he will be there for minicamp next week. Cool, fine. Honestly, it was getting to a point where I was like I'd rather him not sign because I just want to see us not do this again with another aging quarterback Not aging Old quarterback and just put a bandaid on it for another year.
Speaker 1:But it happened.
Speaker 2:Everything what everybody thought was going to happen happened, and he's going to be signing a one-year deal with the Steelers to, you know, hopefully have a much better season than he had last year with the Jets. Do you want to go through jokes or do you want me to kind of have my thoughts on it?
Speaker 2:first Okay, on one hand, I think I've let's just say overall, I've come to the realization that ever since Ben Roethlisberger left, we have been in quarterback hell. Now, if ands or buts about it. I had a little bit of a reprieve last year where I thought Justin Fields was going to be our starter for the year last year and Mike Tomlin ruined that, but for the most part I've been quarterback hell. This upcoming year will be no different.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Do I necessarily have great expectations to go and make the playoffs and win multiple playoff games? I do not. I really don't, and I think the Steelers have been this for years now. It's win eight, nine, 10 games, go to the playoffs, lose a, lose the playoff game in a laughable fashion. That's been our season for the last three or four years. Now that'll be our season going into next year and I'm not going to sit here and look at the downsides of all of this and ruin my nfl season as a sports fan. So I'm going to like, overall, I'm just going to go into this season, hope that aaron rogers plays well, but if he plays terribly, won't be all that surprised, and all I can do is hope man, and I'm again. Do I think we even have a chance to win a super bowl with aaron rogers at the helm?
Speaker 2:no, I do not, I do not. This is about me. Brett jace, you keep coming. You told me this. Have my thoughts. I'm having my thoughts.
Speaker 2:Don't try to answer my questions for me. Do I think we deserve we win a super bowl with aaron rogers at the helm? No, do I think we can win games with aaron? No, do I think we can win games with Aaron Rodgers? Yes, do I think we can lose games because of Aaron Rodgers? Yes, I do.
Speaker 2:Do I think this like saves Tomlin's job? I don't think it really saves, unless this thing goes way off the rails and we win like one or two games. That's the only way this really ruins Tomlin's job. I don't think Aaron Rodgers has the juice to get Tomlin fired at this point with how tenured he is there. I think that culture itself in that locker room is so solid that I don't think Aaron Rodgers would really ruin it, unless this whole thing with TJ Watt goes sideways and they don't pay him and then also don't trade him to get anything for him and it becomes a whole big issue. So I think Aaron Rodgers is a meh move at best. He is the best quarterback the Steelers could get at this point, and that is very true, but it doesn't mean that he's going to be the key to unlocking the Steelers having a Super Bowl season, because I just don't think that's going to be the case either. How do you feel about my thoughts on that? Was it perfectly reasonable? Was I being too positive, being too negative?
Speaker 1:Your team is fucked. Tj Watts y'all should just trade his ass. Y'all should trade Mika Fitzpatrick. You guys should let Cam Hayward go. Just exterminate the team, Exterminate the team Just fucking restart dude. I was in the stadium with Steelers fans as all of them are saying just fire Mike Tomlin and restart. Yeah. Six different motherfuckers said that to me. I know they are losing. Motherfucking X means probably about three beers. In Looks to me as though we should just fire Mike Tomlin. I'm like you're probably right.
Speaker 2:I carry that belief too.
Speaker 1:You're right, we should just fire Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2:I'm like you're probably right. I carry that belief too. You're right, aaron Rodgers, bro.
Speaker 1:Y'all should just let Will Howard start.
Speaker 2:You're telling me. I do think in the Will Howard area. I did talk to a Steelers fan at the gym today and I think he kind of put it in a way that I probably thought of it too, but I just didn't put it in these words too. I just didn't put it in these words, but that I don't think there is a better quarterback to have to draft and put on the back burner and say, hey, you're going to sit for this year and have that quarterback be able to take it in a way that'll actually make it better than Will Howard in this.
Speaker 2:In this last year's draft, I don't think Chador would be able to take it the way in the most positive way. I don't think any other quarterback would be able to take this opportunity that Will Howard may have by letting Aaron Rodgers start the year learning as much as you can from him, and maybe next year you could be the guy if you progress in the ways that you need to progress, because he has all the tools. But it's just, maybe he needs to learn a little bit in the NFL in order to take that next step. But I don't know, man, I have to think about this as positively as I can and that's like as best the best I can do, because, let's be honest, aaron rod is not going to help us lose enough games to go get a top quarterback next year, so I'm just, I'm stuck. I he might be enough, he might no for sure he is that bad sometimes, but here's the thing it's usually not on the field that bad, it's everything around him that bad. That then tanks the team.
Speaker 1:Your team is that bad. Your offense is hot, fucking ass. Your best player is Pat Fryermuth.
Speaker 2:DK Metcalf.
Speaker 1:Your best player is Pat Fryermuth. I did not stutter, you just got a bigger George Pickens out there, my nigga. Your best offensive piece is Pat Frymouth.
Speaker 2:He is more. No, he is definitely more that nigga don't want no routes.
Speaker 1:He's going to try harder. Try as hard as you want, he's still not as talented as George Pickens. You know what that means that nigga is a net neutral he's still not as talented as George. Pickens. You know what that means. That nigga is a net neutral. He is just the same as George Pickens. He's not as talented, he doesn't have as good a footwork, his hands aren't as good, but he's going to try harder. So it makes him equal to what you had in George Pickens, which means you are a net neutral.
Speaker 2:But your running back room got worse, we'll see.
Speaker 1:So. Room got worse, we'll see. So your best offensive player is Pat Fryman. That nigga's really good. He was your best receiver last year.
Speaker 2:They were trying to trade for John New Smith, the guy the Miami tight end. That's great.
Speaker 1:He's still not as good as Pat Fryman.
Speaker 2:No, I don't think so either, but I think if you add him, that would definitely be a help. That's great, but they're not going to. It's not going to happen.
Speaker 1:No, no, I'm not even close. This is the only move you've made all season and it's the worst move you probably could have fucking made, so have fun with that.
Speaker 2:Look.
Speaker 1:I, Me personally I'm going to watch my team go 9-8, get pick 17, and pick another nigga that won't sign his contract. But you know, that's just me.
Speaker 2:I think Caleb Johnson is going to be a great running back for us this year.
Speaker 1:I think he'll be good. I think he'll waste all of his good carries, like he did Najee, because your offensive line is still not that good.
Speaker 2:I think our offensive line will be better this year. I really do. Okay, we have a first-round pick. That didn't play last year. That's great.
Speaker 1:What pick.
Speaker 2:Was he again? Who is this nigga? Who is he?
Speaker 1:What's his name?
Speaker 2:Don't do this.
Speaker 1:If you don't know his name, he's not good enough to know.
Speaker 2:Nope, I got this. I got this. Give me a second. I know his fucking name nigga. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do. Give me a second. It's oh. No, you know I suck at names. No, you know, I know that's a trap. Then that's a trap. You know I suck at names. He's on your team, yeah, but he didn't play all year last year.
Speaker 1:It don't matter. He was your first one picked last year.
Speaker 2:What's his name? It is Random nigga number three from the Jets Fucking third overall safety Fuck nigga yeah I guess I get that I know the thing I shouldn't know. But the thing I should know I don't, it's what is his name?
Speaker 1:What position did he play for you, Joe?
Speaker 2:Right tackle. He'd probably left tackle. To be totally honest with you.
Speaker 1:Is it Fatano?
Speaker 2:Yes, fatano, troy Fatano. Yeah, it is Troy Fatano. Yeah, we draft him. Hopefully he'll be able to take over the left tackle spot and be good. Leave Broderick Jones at right tackle. Our center draft pick and our right guard were both very good last year and they started most of the year, so I think our off line will be better and I think they'll be able to do enough for Caleb Johnson, my brother in Christ.
Speaker 1:I just pulled it up. They have Fatano as your right tackle and Broderick Jones as your left tackle. You are going to get fucking speed blitzed. Your team is cooked. You are cooked. Both the motherfuckers are slow.
Speaker 2:Broderick's not slow, he just holds a lot.
Speaker 1:Real quick, he is good, you are about to get flagged.
Speaker 2:37,000 times he holds a lot, dude.
Speaker 1:He was the most flagged off the line in the league. Real quick. He's about to face Trey Hendrickson all year. I'm about to see 37 flags. You're right. I saw that many flags last year because he was holding the shit out of Trey Hendrickson. He was flagged three times in that game, dude. And Fatano is slow as shit. That nigga's big as fucking. Slow as fuck.
Speaker 2:He's not that big, he's a little smaller, so he actually has some split speed. He can move. He can probably get overpowered though, but he can move.
Speaker 1:Oh, dude, he's about to get overpowered. This is a motherfucker. Six foot four. Myles Garrett's going to have a fucking field day on this nigga. Your team is fucked.
Speaker 2:You are fucked Both your tackles are in the wrong spot.
Speaker 1:Both of them are in the wrong spot. Six foot four. That makes him barely bigger than me.
Speaker 2:Two inches is a lot, bro. Two inches bigger is a lot he weighs less than me gang. Hopefully they lied about it. That's when he was at the combine. That's when he's at his most fit.
Speaker 1:That is up to date. That is from your website. That is up to date. My nigga, that motherfucker, is small and light. He is going to get molested. He is getting molested on the whole line. And then Broderick Jones is going to be flagged 15 times.
Speaker 2:He holds a lot, a lot, you know why he holds a lot?
Speaker 1:Because he's slow. He holds them because he's slow.
Speaker 2:Hopefully it's because he didn't have the technique and he'll be able to be better coming out this year. No, that nigga is big and slow and he'll be playing the position he wants to play. Big and slow, yes.
Speaker 1:That doesn't change the fact you are big and slow, slow.
Speaker 2:He is slow. You don't always got to be like. You don't have to be universal, I have to be the realism.
Speaker 1:Joe, I am realistic. Your O-line is ass. Who is your center?
Speaker 2:We drafted him from out of West Virginia.
Speaker 1:He's a monster, oh you lucky motherfucker, because your center last year was cheeks. That nigga sucked.
Speaker 2:But by the time he ended the season he was good he was fine.
Speaker 1:But the start of the season I remember him like throwing one over Russell Wilson's head Fucking rocketed that bitch Pew Right over his head. Y'all lost like 10 yards. I remember you going like genuine agony is when you saw that play Real quick, your O-line is not good. Your O-line is going to get worse. I think it'll get better Okay the interior O-line Real quick.
Speaker 1:Aaron Rodgers can't run, so the outside, the left and right, tackle. You have little nigga over there and you have slow nigga over there. They're going to lose 37 yards of play from from the sack and then the 15 yards from the holding look I.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of things we worried about. I don't think the offensive line is that's going to be it. We're gonna run the football db still suck ass. I think we'll be better. Okay, I do okay, or we'll just get after the past.
Speaker 1:So much so he's, he's happy, happy, hunky-dory now. Yeah, so he's going to be actually playing. We're going to watch him torch Joey Porter Jr again. It's okay, I've been watching our OTAs, I've been watching them torch everybody else. Cam Sillabur got one fucking interception and they fucking highlighted that bitch.
Speaker 2:The question is not for the Bengals. If you're going to be able to stop them, the question is you just have to outscore them, because the Bengals are not going to stop you.
Speaker 1:You can't outscore them. You can't score on your own. I watched it.
Speaker 2:We will beat you one of the two games this year.
Speaker 1:Just one, you just might.
Speaker 2:Just one.
Speaker 1:Just one, but Just one, that's all I hope for.
Speaker 2:We're going to kick the shit out of you. No question, I agree with that. But we'll beat you one of the two.
Speaker 1:Aaron Rodgers may just be that bad this year. He was not good. Last year he wasn't terrible, but he had gotten worse.
Speaker 2:They say it takes multiple years to come back From the Achilles injury nowadays, not to mention he's over 40. He don't look like he's 40 something years old, but yeah, but they say it takes multiple years to come back from the Achilles injury nowadays, not to mention he's over 40. He don't look like he's 40-something years old. He's still working out.
Speaker 2:He's still doing everything he has to do, and if he could just have a tad bit of mobility, just to get away from a little bit of pressure. He does not. He does not Again. I don't need him to be 100% of what he was 10 years ago.
Speaker 1:He's going to be 50% of what he was. He's going to be touched in the AFC North. The Ravens are going to touch him. Their pass rush is very good. The Browns will touch him. Their pass rush is very good. The Bengals' pass rush is not good, but Trey Hendrickson will touch that man.
Speaker 2:That's if he plays.
Speaker 1:Probably won't.
Speaker 2:That's, if he plays, fuck it We'll send Mike Hilton out of his ass.
Speaker 1:Somebody's going to touch him. Y'all, leave Mike Hilton open.
Speaker 2:He got all three of his sacks against the Steelers last year. I'm not.
Speaker 1:Your team is not on a good trajectory, but you still won't be bad enough.
Speaker 2:We'll be bad enough to have a good draft pick. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:I'm very games. You'll win 10. Maybe make the playoffs. You'll make the playoffs. Lose the playoff game in a hilarious fashion. Yes, that's our season. That's literally what it is, and I think that is more depressing than only winning three games, because then there's something to look forward to and there's a little bit of hope.
Speaker 1:I'm not getting such hope If I'm like a Titans fan right now. I'm riding high. I got a new quarterback. We got some decent pieces in the draft.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're still going.
Speaker 1:We only like four games, but there's hope.
Speaker 2:There's something to build If I'm a Steelers fan.
Speaker 1:We're about to go 10 and fucking 9.
Speaker 2:The Steelers are an old, abandoned building that we're just trying to hold on to and fix up to keep things running. Keep things running, but it keeps falling over. It wants to fall over. We're not letting it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, y'all are putting stilts up next to it to keep it up. You guys are wasting time.
Speaker 2:I know, I'm very aware.
Speaker 1:You guys have watched a lot of good quarterbacks come and go.
Speaker 2:They want to stay on the winning trajectory. So bad, and I'm just like just give it up for one year, or maybe two, and you'll be back to what you want to be.
Speaker 1:You're doing better than the Browns. Shador is not working out, I know, but the Browns are just shitty. The Browns are just shitty, I know, but.
Speaker 2:Shador, I don't want a cookie for that.
Speaker 1:That's not a good cookie. I agree, shador is the only quarterback not working out with the ones.
Speaker 2:Have you and I keep seeing clips of him making good throws, but it's not ever with the first team.
Speaker 1:It is always with the second and thirds. Everybody else is working out with the first team.
Speaker 2:And, let's be honest, they're not going to keep all five quarterbacks they have on their roster, right now yeah, that'd be Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 1:He's going to want to get cut.
Speaker 2:They probably need to cut two of them, or at least put one of the four on a practice squad.
Speaker 1:It'll be Shador. He does not look good. I had to sit down because I get like the news from I don't remember Adam Schefter, not Adam Schefter, the other guy, the white guy, gives sometimes good takes, sometimes really bad takes.
Speaker 2:For ESPN.
Speaker 1:No, that's his own show.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:You know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:Are you talking? What's his face? So he has his own show? Yeah, schefter, not Schefter.
Speaker 1:And then there's Like part of the NFL. Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2:Oh no.
Speaker 1:I get this news from TikTok man.
Speaker 2:It's what's his face. Hold on NFL News break. News from tiktok game um, it's what's his face. Nfl news break um, is it like it's a guy that breaks the news? Right, he's not a guy that just talks nfl, he's a guy that has sources and stuff.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know him.
Speaker 2:Dude, it's crazy you don't remember his name now, is it? I follow them all on Twitter. I don't know why I just didn't look at that, is it? This is great podcasting Having all this, but you know we gotta find out, I'm stuck, I'm stuck on it. Now, okay, dove climbing.
Speaker 1:Dude, I don't fucking know who cares.
Speaker 2:Let's continue I was just gonna run through them. That's my drink. Thanks, though it's good. Yeah, cherry freeze.
Speaker 1:Good stuff.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that's so that the Steelers man, I'm just like I'm gonna go into the season With not A bunch of Expectations, hope for the best, plan for the worst, and I'm just gonna try, try, go into the season with not a bunch of expectations, hope for the best, plan for the worst, and I'm just going to try to enjoy the season.
Speaker 1:See, not everybody can go 17-0 like Bengals. I understand what you're feeling, Ben.
Speaker 2:They've never won 17-0. We're going to we already did this game, not with that defense or not. Who needs defense? Who needs defense? Okay, we'll get to that. Is there any other news-wise? The Ravens gave Rashad Bateman $36.75 million. Why, I don't know. He shows up four games a year.
Speaker 1:I'm just like why Did the Steelers try to sign Gabe Davis?
Speaker 2:Yeah, they had him in for again. I think they were trying to decide between either Gabe Davis or trying to get John Dewey Smith as a tight end and I'm like, okay, I guess you'd have to pay either one of them. I don't want Gabe Davis anywhere near my team because he just can't catch a football. No, he's going to show up for one game. He had one great game in his whole career, one good game where he had like 200 yards.
Speaker 2:Three touchdowns on. He was great On the bills. He did not show up again.
Speaker 1:The rest of the year.
Speaker 2:Again we wouldn't need him to be that guy, but again I need a guy that can at least act like he can do the job.
Speaker 1:You need somebody who's consistent, so not him. So I'd much rather have John Newsmith if we had an opportunity I'm.
Speaker 2:It makes me sad because they keep tweeting about him because they know that Ohio State fans just go hard for their guys in the NFL, no matter what. So they keep tweeting about Emeka. And not to mention, he's probably won them over because he's just such a great person and a great football player. He's like Terry McLaurin on steroids.
Speaker 2:Terry McLaurin's currently not happy with the team, right now Again and then I heard somebody else like, oh, let's just go get him too. I'm like we can't pay both guys. Not everybody can be stupid like the Bengals. They pay both their guys. They can't pay nobody else. Fuck you. No, I'm only no. They are worth getting paid. But the fact that they can't, they don't want to pay anybody else, forced them into having to pay those two wide receivers. Wide receiver, one type money, because they can't put the money anywhere else I'm calling him the half a billion boy.
Speaker 1:I heard that shit and I'm about to die Again for your situation.
Speaker 2:It makes sense, but it doesn't make money sense at all to do that. So I'm just like Emeka Buka. I see tweets about him every day from the Buccaneers and it makes me so sad. But again, the Steelers didn't have an opportunity to draft him because he got taken earlier.
Speaker 1:So I can at least have that solace he didn't get taken as early as I assumed he would be.
Speaker 2:Everybody was saying, oh, he's a second round pick. I kept saying throughout the whole process no, the fuck, he's not.
Speaker 1:Real quick, everybody calling him a second round pick and I was like who the fuck?
Speaker 2:is above him.
Speaker 1:McMillan.
Speaker 2:Everybody, because everybody looks at him and is like, oh, he had Jeremiah Smith next to him. Okay, fine, he's a freak of nature.
Speaker 1:Okay, real quick. Don't blame him for not being Jeremiah Smith. He had all these great receivers around him.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's his fault. He's not Marv or Jeremiah Smith.
Speaker 1:He's not Marvin Harrison, he's not Garrett Wilson, he's not Chris Olave, he's not all these other guys, and I'm like, yeah, but he still ends up at 1,000 yards Every time.
Speaker 2:Every time no one wants to talk about that.
Speaker 1:Of hey in the biggest moments, the biggest situation.
Speaker 2:He showed up every time.
Speaker 1:He's the guy that's getting the ball. Yeah, because he's the adult hey, I'm here, I'm going to get the ball.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get you a couple extra yards.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be and he's quiet. Yeah, he does his shit.
Speaker 2:He's a great person. He's going to help your community. He just goes home, man. He's the girlfriend that everybody doesn't want because she has a little bit of deficiencies, but she does everything you want to do. She's a good person. You guys have interests.
Speaker 1:She calls you and asks about your parents, your family, by deficiencies, he saying.
Speaker 2:Bad looking. I'm saying like there might be a couple issues here and there that keeps them from being a 10 out of 10 out of everything.
Speaker 1:Right, a couple blemishes like I can do stuff on the weekend but he does everything.
Speaker 2:he does everything right and like if you really I don't want to walk the dog, but he does everything. He does everything right and like if you really want to walk the dog. If you just really think about it, they're perfect for you. You just have to see. You just have to see it. You have to get to understand and appreciate how great they are Bro, fuck that dog.
Speaker 1:That nigga licks my elbows. I fucking hate that nigga licks my elbows. I fucking hate that nigga. Uh, oh, sorry, but yeah, so like yes, emeka is awesome emeka is awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but yes, ravens, give me rashad baby.
Speaker 1:That type of money is insane but here's the problem great, he's, a great deep threat Sometimes. Sometimes he does have catching problems.
Speaker 2:He doesn't show up ever. He does. He has won a couple. He has a couple games where he'll do something, maybe honor yards, a couple catches, but for the most part he does nothing. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 2:Ravens can't sign wide receivers, for shit anyway, so they either have to overpay for their guys to stay or they have to try to go and try to draft somebody, but they've shown they really can't draft anybody, because what's his face?
Speaker 1:Zay.
Speaker 2:Flowers. Zay Flowers has not been. He's not been at what they thought he was going to be.
Speaker 1:They're still better than at least their receivers don't have off-season troubles like the Chiefs, true.
Speaker 2:He's getting sued. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, but again, they could go draft somebody pretty easily without much of an issue. The Chiefs as soon as they decide to. No, they can't. The player will not be good in the NFL, but he'll do just enough for the Chiefs to win like they need to. That's probably what I have to say.
Speaker 1:It's like the Patriots model, yeah no, every receiver they've drafted has been hot, fucking garbage.
Speaker 2:Rasheed Rice has not been garbage, he just got hurt last year.
Speaker 1:Sky.
Speaker 2:Moore. Sky Moore has sucked.
Speaker 1:Okay, they drafted three other receivers before him. Rasheed Rice is the only one. That's good. He's the only one. He doesn't have all season troubles.
Speaker 2:Which one's? Rasheed Rice he's the one that got injured last year, got the knee issue.
Speaker 1:He's the one that had a car crash? No, which one is that?
Speaker 2:That is.
Speaker 1:It's Rasheed Rice.
Speaker 2:No, that's not Rasheed Rice. Isn't that the one, the guy they just dropped out of Texas?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:It was that one.
Speaker 1:No, no, it wasn't Rasheed Rice. It was Rasheed Rice it wasn't Rasheed Rice.
Speaker 2:Oh, actually he might have. It was Rasheed Rice, no yeah.
Speaker 1:They dropped out of Texas. It's hot, fucking garbage.
Speaker 2:Xavier Worthy. Yeah, he had one good game.
Speaker 1:And boom, nothing else. Oh yeah, you know why? Because all he is is fast, he can't run routes he can't fucking catch.
Speaker 2:Tyreek Hill was that, and they turned him into something, so maybe they didn't turn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Worthy is 130 pounds wet.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, he's not nearly as stocky as what no, I watched him get hit one time.
Speaker 1:I'm like that nigga's dead yeah.
Speaker 2:It's Rishi.
Speaker 1:Rice. He's the one that did that shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did, he is good. Yes, he is good, he's easily number one receiver potential. Yeah Now, if only he could play as well as he could drive um what?
Speaker 1:no, no, no, no, no, drive as well as he could play. I've never seen him play.
Speaker 2:No, he's played, he played, he played. Well, oh yeah, did he? That drink is not yours. I like how you're just so casually taking it and just drinking it like it's yours. That was for sure mine I'm just talking about game.
Speaker 1:Okay, it's hot in here but yes, the ravens.
Speaker 2:I just don't understand again. But you're not going to get anybody else. They don't only have the offense to really like, attract great wide receivers to come there all the time. I know it's one of my favorites, one of my favorite primes, um, but I get it, it's I. I don't, I don't get it I I don't know, I I don't understand.
Speaker 1:I don't know. There's no receivers out there really right now.
Speaker 2:You can go get Keenan Allen.
Speaker 1:Do you really want Keenan Allen? Keenan Allen would look terrible.
Speaker 2:But I think Keenan Allen can be the wide receiver that can be your quarterback's best friend.
Speaker 1:Maybe He'll be where he needs to be, if he's not hurt.
Speaker 2:The injury thing is a potential issue. And he's over, he's well over 30, so no, I totally understand that that part of it, but I think if he's healthy he's way more productive than bateman will ever be. I agree, it's what. It is, okay, um. Next thing this is a problem for the lions, their center frank ragnow dudenow retired out of the blue.
Speaker 1:Real quick. He is one of the only.
Speaker 2:He's like 28 years old. He's not even that old.
Speaker 1:Frank Ragnow is 29 years old, 29,. Yeah, easily the best center in the NFL, the only center I know that can take on guys by himself. He does not need guard, help Him. Retiring hurts them a lot.
Speaker 2:They did draft somebody that has played in the NFL and they're not draft. They signed somebody pretty quickly after that.
Speaker 1:I know, but Frank Ragnow is not a dude you can replace. I'll be honest. He's better than Jason Kelsey, if I'm going to be honest with you, because Jason Kelsey still needed guard help to do things because he was small, in the same way that Frank Ragnow was not as small and Frank Ragnow can take on defensive tackles by himself.
Speaker 2:Physically he's better.
Speaker 1:Yes, physically he's better. As a center, kelsey was able to lead, probably better.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But as an actual O-lineman, Frank Ragnall is better because he freed up guards to go do other things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which is why?
Speaker 1:there's not many sacks in the Lions Right, but dude him, retiring hurts.
Speaker 2:Again. The rest of your offensive line is pretty good.
Speaker 1:It's like that's not necessarily an issue, but it does having the leader of your offensive line, usually the center.
Speaker 2:I don't understand Again, when you have guys like that, like there's the problem with having so much money you're paying these guys. Some guys may just get enough money. They were like, hey, do I have to go this daily grind and potentially hurt my future self by doing this every day? And I'm like that's something. When you, these guys, make as much money as they are so quickly, that's a decision that they can make. Andrew luck made the decision he made when he was getting paid so much money. That was different. But again he was, but he was a lot more injured. I get that, but like 15 years ago a guy would keep going through because I need that next paycheck. The guys can decide to make different decisions now and I'm like it's with the money that they're making. So like it was really cool to see, because I'm like it's one thing to do it before your body starts breaking down to a point where your game has is forcing you out.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 2:He decided, hey, I'm done doing this. I can go hang out with the fam, I've made enough money Awesome. But it sucks. He's doing that right in the middle of the Lions and really trying to take that next step.
Speaker 1:They're just right there. They're right there, they're just trying to take that next step. I don't fault him for it. Good for you, dude. I would never fault him for that You're 29. You're retired, you can go sit out in Cancun and do nothing, or you can go to TV Dude, you can.
Speaker 2:Senators are always pretty good at TV because they just know the game.
Speaker 1:I see the game from the closest point possible.
Speaker 2:And they have to know just as much as the quarterback does. So like they gotta know more.
Speaker 1:I just have to see who the fuck is blitzing me, because they're calling out what's happening as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, like the Senators said, he's usually pretty good at TV, so like he could go to TV, he can go sit around, do nothing like. That's definitely an opportunity he has and he's done very well while he's playing in the NFL. He's he deserves it. So that is definitely one problem for the Lions, but again, as as long as they can get that shored up, they, their team, is too talented around it, so doesn't change back. Their defense still has a bunch of issues on the back end, but like other than that we'll see. Not to mention have replace their Offensive coordinator. You know that might be A big deal.
Speaker 2:Next thing Richardson is sidelined with a Shoulder injury again. He was Going into the season where he was going to be battling Daniel Jones for the Quarterback one job anyway. So this might set him back anyway. Here's the thing I think as bad as Daniel Jones is. I think he throws the ball much better, at least more accurately, than Richardson ever could, ever can, even though Richardson has so much more talent than Daniel Jones has in his like. Richardson has more talent in his pinky than Daniel Jones has in total, but it's just. Daniel Jones might be a little more consistent in a way that richardson just can't be right now and so that will potentially set him back if he's not able to do a lot of throwing in the preseason slash. Getting in camp and all that so like that is definitely a big deal, especially when richardson is trying to really set himself up to be their starter for the colts for the long term and daniel Daniel Jones is more than happy to take this opportunity to go and take the job at least to start the year and try to go change his career around, I guess, from being a guy that is going to be a career backup to potentially finding himself landing on a team where he could potentially be the starter long term.
Speaker 2:Because Richardson maybe was a bust On another shoulder injury for a different team in that same division. Cj Stroud is out with a. They've been lessing he hasn't really been throwing at all in camp so far. They're saying it's just precautionary. Apparently he might he potentially could have had a sole shoulder surgery earlier on in this process. I don't think he'll be in danger of not starting the season or anything like that, but he's been dealing with shoulder stuff ever since college. That was something he was dealing with at Ohio State. As long as it's managed well, I think he'll be fine, and I don't ever doubt CJ Stroud doing what he has to do. No, I don't either.
Speaker 1:He's going to rehab. I think he'll be fine. I think it's just not. I'm a Texans fan. I'm not going to lie to you, I'm them. I am stressed about anything that's happening to any quarterback who is ever setting foot in this organization. Again, I am stressed.
Speaker 2:Especially CJ, who has turned out to be the guy you guys have tasted greatness like so many times.
Speaker 1:Motherfucker, I'm thirsty, so am I. You guys have tasted greatness so many times and it's like I don't want to lose this again.
Speaker 2:It's not masseuses. So I think it's okay, as long as they keep managing him. He knows what he's doing. He's going to do what he has to do, as long as he's ready to go when camp starts.
Speaker 1:I think that's all he cares about.
Speaker 2:You don't see him out doing anything else and I think losing the way they did to the Chiefs last year in the playoffs is only going to burn his fire even brighter. And I think with the additions they made to that team getting those wide receivers out of Iowa State the fact that I remember that is crazy. I don't remember that other stuff, but I think they've added a lot of stuff to that team to help him out and I think they're going to be a lot better team going into this year. It's just on CJ to make sure he's managed. He knows what he's doing and by the time they're ready to go out there and camp and kind of put things together, he's ready to go.
Speaker 2:But something you do have to keep track of because if something goes wrong he definitely could mess him up for the long term. If it's his throwing shoulder, which it is his throwing shoulder, which is what they're saying it is, and let me see. That's it for the news. So let's go ahead and start our division series where every episode of our podcast we'll just go in on a division, talk about the teams that are there, give what our thoughts are going to be for this upcoming season and if we want to go ahead and say how we think the season's going to end up when it comes to who's in one division, how that kind of shakes up there.
Speaker 1:Start with the NFC South. You want to go with the NFC South?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was going to go with the AFC North, since we'd already talked so much about the AFC North NFC. South NFC, South Tampa Bay, Atlanta, the Saints and the Panthers yeah, that's the NFC South.
Speaker 1:I say the Falcons win the division. You think so, I think so I think. Michael Penix lit a fire that they didn't have before.
Speaker 2:He was good last year. He has some growing to do, but he shows something.
Speaker 1:I think they're going to go with him going forward and all you got to do is get to 9-8 to win this division.
Speaker 2:I think y'all can do it. I think Tampa Bay man, I think Tampa Bay Okay.
Speaker 1:I agree with you. In reality it'll probably be Tampa Bay. But when their defense did take a step back. And all the other players are just getting older I don, just getting older, I'm not. I don't foresee them truly improving. I think they'll relatively say the same, because their schedule got harder because they got into the playoffs.
Speaker 2:let me see they got atlanta, atlanta, houston at houston. Jets, philly, seattle, san fran At Houston, jets, philly, seattle, san Fran, detroit, new Orleans, new England, buffalo, la Rams, arizona, new Orleans, atlanta, carolina, miami, carolina.
Speaker 1:Huh, the schedule ain't that bad yeah but it's a lot harder than the Falcons who have I shit you not the Buccaneers, the Vikings, the Panthers, commanders, bills, niners, dolphins, patriots, colts, panthers, saints, jets, seahawks. Theirs is a little easier. They have the Rams, which is a much easier game than the ones they had. They have the Colts, which is an easier game. Rams are not easy. An easier, Easier game. I'm not saying they're easy, it's an easier game.
Speaker 2:I just I think I have to If I'm going to say what I think is a win division. I think I'm going to have to give it to Tampa Bay. I'm going to have to see them. Just somebody else prove it before. I'm willing to have to see them. Just somebody else prove it before.
Speaker 1:I'm willing to really put anything on the line. I just think the Falcons are the most put-together team on offense and defense, and what they've been truly lacking was a quarterback.
Speaker 2:Well, they were lacking pressure defensively.
Speaker 1:True, they did draft two defensive ends. They drafted guys. Yeah, and I'm going to rock with the Falcons here, I'll probably go Tampa Bay.
Speaker 2:Let's go with win totals. Let's just go ahead and just off the cuff their win total for the. I'll start with the Falcons, since you think they're going to win the division. Yeah, their. Let's see here. Their win total is win totals for NFL. If I could type 2025, probably should have this set up already, but you know alright, so let's go Falcons. Their win total is seven and a half. Would you go over or under seven?
Speaker 1:and a half games I'd go over. I think they can at least get nine and eight Real quick see. Trevor Bauer was acquitted.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I saw that. Yeah, he was innocent. Well, when he came out with that video, like telling out the whole story, it's like, oh, this kind of all makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Real quick does he come back to the MLB? Probably not.
Speaker 2:I didn't think so either, because he had already burned so many bridges Like he made it like that story again. It sucks. That Story kind of was the last push that the MLB needed to really push him out. But he really was burning a lot of bridges in the MLB to begin with. Whether it was by him on purpose or not, he was just an asshole to everybody. So when you already do that and then something happens and you're like, oh, this makes it a lot easier for us to go ahead and push him out Not that he's older now, true but again, I think there's many teams that would welcome him on the staff.
Speaker 1:He's an asshole through and through, but no one can deny that motherfucker is a Cy Young winner. He is and he is that good. He's only what 32?.
Speaker 2:I think so. I think so. I get what you're saying. I just think once they've cast you off, it's a lot easier to leave you out there rather than try to deal with bringing you back and any type of issues that comes from that. Tampa Bay I'm going to go with the win total of Tampa Bay. Their win total is over under nine and a half. Nine and a half is crazy. They didn't say they win 10 games this year. Based off what I saw of their schedule, I'd probably go under, but just barely under around nine.
Speaker 1:I think nine wins Nine is like really perfect.
Speaker 2:But I think that's going to be enough, man, I really think, to potentially win that division.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. I think the Falcons can get to 10.
Speaker 2:Let's do that real quick. Let's do it. You want to just say win or loss. Real quick, buccaneers, start the year. That's an L.
Speaker 1:At Tampa.
Speaker 2:Bay no.
Speaker 1:That's a win.
Speaker 2:First game of the year. I think the Buccaneers look better. I think it's a win. What does it go off of here At Vikings? I don't know With JJ McCrory who knows what JJ is going to be at the start of the year.
Speaker 1:Everybody says he looks great, I'm like yeah, but they have no one else on the roster, they kind of have to push good vibes out there. But I would assume just based on what I think that could be a win.
Speaker 2:Okay, two notes throughout the year At Panthers, that's a white belt Commander, that's an L Bills, that's an L Niners, niners, well at Niners.
Speaker 1:That team is. That team is nothing right now. They.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they're prideful and they have good, it doesn't fucking matter If your team's not good.
Speaker 1:No, I get what you're saying. There's no one on that team right now.
Speaker 2:They're well coached, though, that's great who is he throwing to George Kittle and who Christian?
Speaker 1:McCaffrey Real quick. He looked W washed when I saw him.
Speaker 2:Everybody is saying that he's looking great in camp and all that.
Speaker 1:Good vibes, good vibes, good vibes. That motherfucker is washed. Come on, I don't know Again. I have to see that team through the other two games of the year, but I think probably a loss.
Speaker 2:Okay, dolphins At home In Miami.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:That's a win At the Patriots In November. That's an L Outside.
Speaker 1:In.
Speaker 2:November, the Falcons can play outside.
Speaker 1:Michael Penix played in fucking Washington. You dumb fuck. No, he did yes.
Speaker 2:No, okay, fine, yes, I'll give you that. What the fuck are you talking about? I think the Patriots is a hard place to play for anybody.
Speaker 1:Agreed, but again that Patriots team is fresh.
Speaker 2:I know, but I Again, that's another team I have to fucking see. I think the Patriots, by this point in the season they'll be playing better.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:So you're going to say win yeah, colts, that's a win, panthers, that's a win. At Saints, that's probably a win dude At Jets. That's a loss. That's three losses now Seahawks, seahawks.
Speaker 1:At Seahawks.
Speaker 2:No, that team is good. That's probably a loss. I don't know. Honestly, I think that could go either way. I really think that might be a coin flip.
Speaker 1:I think JSN Torch is their secondary and I think the Seahawks secondary is way better than the Falcons secondary.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's fine. That's four losses now. At Buccaneers, that's an L, that's an L. Yeah, at Cardinals, that's probably a win, that's a dub Rams. That's a loss.
Speaker 1:At Rams just Rams.
Speaker 2:They're both indoor teams.
Speaker 1:I say that's more of a toss-up than you think, dude.
Speaker 2:No, they have the quarterback advantage, do they?
Speaker 1:Yes, have you seen Penix play Bully?
Speaker 2:I know what Stafford is.
Speaker 1:I know what Stafford was? I just know that Stafford.
Speaker 2:I know Stafford has the same elbow, ben does, I know, but everything. So I know what Stafford was Everything has been fine since last year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is this year.
Speaker 2:What game is that Eight or nine? No, this is like this is week 16.
Speaker 1:Dude, come on Okay.
Speaker 2:I'll give it to the Rams and Saints.
Speaker 1:Last game of the year Home at the Saints.
Speaker 2:Home. That's a win, so that's six losses.
Speaker 1:Ten and six. Yeah, that's what I thought they'd be.
Speaker 2:And again some of those. I would not give them, but you did.
Speaker 1:So, okay, we're right there on the hill. I think some of the ones I gave them were toss-ups, no for sure the. Patriots, I could. Okay, yeah, yeah, I probably. Okay, yeah, yeah, I'd probably fuck that one up. But again, I don't know. That team's fresh and their star receiver is doing cocaine All right, tampa Bay was as good as that At Falcons, that's a loss.
Speaker 2:Okay At Texans. That's a fucking loss. I think it's a two, Even though I'd have them one and one, but you know, Jets that's a win.
Speaker 1:I think they lose to the Falcons at home, but they beat the Falcons in Tampa.
Speaker 2:Bay. Okay, fine, that's 1-1.
Speaker 1:You think they beat the Jets? Yes, tampa.
Speaker 2:Bay Jets are coming to Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's a loss, that's a win.
Speaker 2:Eagles Loss At Seahawks Loss. At Seahawks Loss. I've had four losses already. Niners, that's a win. Yeah, at Lions Loss it might be Dude. Come on, the Lions like dominating at this point of the year.
Speaker 1:That's a loss At Saints that's a win. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Versus Patriots. That's a win.
Speaker 1:Yeah At Bills. That's a loss. That's a loss. What are they at?
Speaker 2:5-5? 6. They have 6 losses right now.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:At Rams. I think the defense is good enough to beat the Rams, so I would give them a win.
Speaker 1:I think the offense isn't good enough to beat the Rams. I think the Rams' defense is actually quite good, yeah, especially that front seven for sure. Which is why it's the opposite. I think the offense of the Rams is a little more cohesive, which is why I gave the Falcons the edge, because the Falcons have so many offensive pieces and that Rams' defense isn't amazing. I don't know. I think.
Speaker 2:I want to maybe Cardinals dub Saints dub, falcons dub, saints dub, falcons dub that's our home At Panthers dub. I think the Panthers will be better this year, but I just think the Panthers go 3-14. They will have a better record, but not much better.
Speaker 1:They go 3-14.
Speaker 2:Dolphins At At Dolphins.
Speaker 1:Loss. What week is this?
Speaker 2:December, when this is in December 28th.
Speaker 1:When.
Speaker 2:Week 16?.
Speaker 1:Two has been out four weeks. It's a win.
Speaker 2:And then Panthers.
Speaker 1:Loss when.
Speaker 2:So this is 6-7. It's the same shit Very close, I'm telling you they're very similar.
Speaker 1:But to win this division all you need is ten wins.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not, you don't even need that, you need nine.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. It is not hard and their schedules are very similar, yeah. I'll give you that, which is why I'm like, yeah, I can see the Falcons winning this division, because these teams are very similar. The Falcons have a better offense On paper. The offense is better because there's so many more offensive pieces. Now the Tampa Bay has like 37 receivers they can throw to.
Speaker 2:I think Tampa Bay has consistency of Baker knowing what Baker is, I agree.
Speaker 1:And again, we don't fully know what Michael Pennington is going to be over a year.
Speaker 1:We are translating it out a little bit and I believe he is going to be a very talented quarterback. From what I've seen, he is going to be very talented. I don't know if he can be consistent yet, which I think he's going to lose a little bit, but I think he's very talented and he's more mobile than most people assume he is. Yeah, but again, their offenses are very similar in how they're set up. They both have good running backs. I think B John's better than Bucky Irving Bucky Irving's very, very good.
Speaker 2:I think Bucky Irving might be a little more consistent, because Bucky Irving knows what his role is.
Speaker 1:I agree. B John don't know what the fuck his role is, B John's like. Because some games are like hey, we want you going to give you the ball at all this game. Yes, you're going to be an extra receiver or a decoy? Yeah, so it's again. The Falcons have so much offensive talent that it's murked up what everybody's supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2:I can't trust Kyle Pitts ever again.
Speaker 1:He's off my list, man I gave him so much credit, that fucking bet you made me make and I was like dude, I don't know. I think we just take Kyle.
Speaker 2:Pitts out. We can win this bet and we won him. We won him. I tweet out about that. I know I added other shit to the bet.
Speaker 1:Legit. I added two other things to the bet. Got that shit. I am sitting here.
Speaker 2:I would have won my bet without Kyle Pitts, Dude I was sitting here watching Kyle Pitts.
Speaker 1:I'm like I hate this nigga. You lost me like six. I took your bets six times. I lost those motherfucking bets, but I won a lot more bets. Not the ones you gave me. You were like, oh, I'm winning bets. I'm like I'm not, nigga, stop giving me these bets, give me the other ones. It's like I'm giving bets. I'm like I'm not, nigga, stop giving me these bets, give me the other ones.
Speaker 2:It's like I'm giving you the bad ones, Dude.
Speaker 1:I am only getting the ones you are losing, and they're always so convoluted there's always one motherfucker I wouldn't have put on there myself. That doesn't get it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to try by betting. Philosophy is going to change this time around. I did it for college football and I want a lot more game. I want a lot more bets than I lost. I think that for next year I'm gonna do a lot less parlays, do just more betting on the games and their spreads.
Speaker 2:I think that might go a little better that way but, yeah, I'm gonna change a little bit, do a little bit less parlays and try to see if that gets me a little bit, gets me a little better, even though it may not get me like the big payoffs of what parlays do. That's why they're such a cool thing to do.
Speaker 1:But I do. I bet on games, and that's where I get the most money.
Speaker 2:Me too. Me too, again. I do better betting on games. I bet on mlb. The other day I bet on under um runs scored in the first inning. It was was the Braves and the Diamondbacks and it was like their two best pitchers. I'm like, oh, under Nobody's scoring that first inning, got to win off of that. I'm like, oh, that was fun. But I just can't keep track of MLB enough to really, I really like keeping track of MLB.
Speaker 2:Okay, so for the NFC South wild card of the division, what is a team that could potentially screw things up if things start going their way? Whether it can go really well or really bad, I think the Panthers are probably the wild card.
Speaker 1:No, no, that's wrong. You're wrong and your opinion is wrong. What Name four defensive players? Name two on their team right now For the Panthers. Yes.
Speaker 2:Heck, I can't even say it's not to Samuel Jr, because he's not even on that team, no more.
Speaker 1:No. So okay, real quick. They have no defense. The Bengals don't have defense, but they have no defense. So I need you to understand what you just said to me was wrong. Your opinion is wrong. It's the Saints and not the Panthers. Everybody's like they're going four and nine. They're not winning many games.
Speaker 2:Man. I'm looking at Nick Scorton, maybe who the fuck is that? That was a guy they just drafted.
Speaker 1:Not real.
Speaker 2:Not a person. No, he didn't just draft him. He's two years in. Yeah, the defense for them is JC Horn, maybe.
Speaker 1:He's been on that team for 37 years. That boy needs to leave Five years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, their defense is not that great he has not accepted a new contract. Who.
Speaker 1:JC Horn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no.
Speaker 1:Oh, he wants out of Carolina.
Speaker 2:Who Actually? No, he did no. No, he did get a new contract. Okay, Again, they gave him a lot of money for it. Who else is they paying? That is another good, true statement. But no, it's probably. No, if you had the Saints doesn't make a lot more sense they have a new quarterback coming in.
Speaker 2:Carr's gone. They draft the guy from the Cardinals. Why am I forgetting that guy? Shaw, something, shaw Tyler Shuck is what his name is. That's close, you were pretty close. So he's going to be a starter. He's probably the most ready to go right out the gate because he played in NFL offensive college.
Speaker 1:And he played 37 years of starter. He's probably the most ready to go right out the gate because he played in NFL offensive college and he played 37 years of college.
Speaker 2:He played a lot of ball. He played a lot of ball 25. He is old. Yeah, no, he's definitely old for being a rookie in the NFL.
Speaker 1:He's been at college for seven years. What?
Speaker 2:Chris Olave, who knows what the whole head issue is going to be. They've already talked about trading him.
Speaker 1:He graduated four years before me. That motherfucker graduated in 2018? Are you?
Speaker 2:dead ass.
Speaker 1:He was in college for eight years. Yeah he was there for a while. He kept getting hurt. He has a master's degree. He had kids. He has a master's degree. He had kids. He has kids 25, 6'5".
Speaker 2:He's how tall 6'5" Damn Tall boy. But yeah, they still have Alvin Kamara. They still have Chris Olave, if he's healthy and able to go. They still have old boy Taysom Hill who has those crazy games every other game he's 33. He's 34. He's old.
Speaker 1:He's a little older, but he came out old, True, but again I feel like he's been the NFL forever.
Speaker 2:Nine years, nine years and plus played at BYU. Makes total sense, yeah, but they have pieces offensively and then defensively they got rid of. They got rid of a lot of players, their players defensively. Get your fucking money up they're not ever going to be able to, god damn playing with you guys on fucking Madden is impossible, impossible.
Speaker 1:I traded every player and I was still in the negative because I have to pay the fucking cap of their contract. Yeah, it's crazy, fucking awful.
Speaker 2:And heck real life too. It's even worse. I don't even think Madden can put it into like in the game, how bad their cap situation truly is. It's so bad, but yeah, it's just. Maybe the Saints make a lot more sense now that you said it that way, I think the Panthers will be better. Probably the Saints make a lot more sense now that you said it that way, I think the Panthers will be better.
Speaker 1:I really do, yeah, but they won't be good. They'll be better, but not good.
Speaker 2:Do you want to know what the Saints' win total is? Five and a half Over under five and a half Under Under five and a half.
Speaker 1:Real quick. You were in college for eight years.
Speaker 2:You can't be good.
Speaker 1:Or he's just mid Eight years of college. You are not good. They can get over five wins, dude. No, they can't beat the Falcons or Buccaneers. That's automatically four losses.
Speaker 2:Arizona. They're going to lose that.
Speaker 1:They're going to lose Arizona. Yeah, they will. Real quick, we're quick, we're done.
Speaker 2:Marv's honked up. They don't have a corner, we're done. They don't have a corner, dude we're done You're losing to Arizona.
Speaker 1:We're done San Fran Loss.
Speaker 2:Seattle.
Speaker 1:Loss At Buffalo.
Speaker 2:Loss. That's New York Loss Jets. Or are they playing the fucking Mets? It's a loss.
Speaker 1:They're losing the fucking Giants. That Giants defense is no joke. New.
Speaker 2:England Loss. This is in.
Speaker 1:Carolina Doesn't fucking matter. That team is that bad.
Speaker 2:Chicago Loss, especially at Chicago. Yeah, tampa Bay Fucking loss Rams. Tampa Bay Fucking loss, rams Loss.
Speaker 1:Panthers At Panthers, uh-huh Loss. Got to give the Panthers a win somewhere and it's there. That's head, my guy.
Speaker 2:Atlanta.
Speaker 1:At yeah Loss.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, that's at home.
Speaker 1:It didn't matter, 'm not gonna count you At.
Speaker 2:Miami Loss.
Speaker 1:Dude, you believe they can win one of these games. You don't. You do not. You're quick. You're trying to argue with me, but I am right. This is. We're at 12. We're at 12. Keep going, keep going.
Speaker 2:At Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1:Loss.
Speaker 2:Carolina.
Speaker 1:Okay, you can have one.
Speaker 2:New York Jets Loss Tennessee At Tennessee.
Speaker 1:Not going to lie to you. If Cam Ward is as good as everybody says he is, y'all could lose, but I'll give you that that's three At Atlanta, that's two. They have two wins so far At Atlanta Loss.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you're saying I should bet the under.
Speaker 1:I would. If I'm going to keep it a buck with you, I fucking would, oh man.
Speaker 2:That is tough, that is tough. They have two In our ranking right now, maybe I'm just thinking about the Saints differently, because the Saints are just that kind of team. That's always good, no, but they're not Real quick realistically they have two wins.
Speaker 1:They can maybe beat the Giants, but that Giants defense is not to be messed with.
Speaker 2:That defense is good. Yeah, you're not wrong. No, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1:And then the Jets is the other one. I'm like, all right, maybe, but again, that defense is not bad and that offense is they're bud, they're right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because by the time you guys will get to them, justin Fields may hit a stride with Garrett Wilson. They may be slinging it through the ring. Maybe, yeah, and y'all may not be able to beat them and most likely, probably not. Look, by the time we got to 12 losses. You were trying to argue with me and you were looking at it and you were I'm right, dude. Yeah, it's bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's bad, I am right here, Even if we give them a couple of them like we're still.
Speaker 1:And those couple are not easy. We're struggling to get to five. Y'all are winning by a field goal.
Speaker 2:We're struggling to get to five, let alone get to six.
Speaker 1:I bet you under, I bet way under.
Speaker 2:Carolina Panthers. They're over under a six and a half.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's more reasonable. Go ahead, name those, all right.
Speaker 2:Jags at Jags. Maybe they lose that game.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Trevor Lawrence is out sometimes Like really bad, sometimes Real quick. I'm just saying Trevor Lawrence is really bad sometimes.
Speaker 2:You said they don't have a defense, and Trevor Lawrence knows how to feast on a bad defense.
Speaker 1:He's supposed to. He doesn't always.
Speaker 2:No, it's the mediocre defenses he plays bad against.
Speaker 1:But the Panthers defense will be bad. Okay, that's a win, that's a loss.
Speaker 2:Cardinals.
Speaker 1:At Cardinals. They'll be the Cardinals. Marvel will have 400 yards, but they'll be able to beat the Cardinals.
Speaker 2:Kyler just plays well to start the year, he ends the season bad. That's the Kyler Murray rule. They'll beat the Cardinals. That's the Kyler Murray rule They'll beat the Cardinals.
Speaker 1:I believe they'll beat the. Cardinals Falcons. That's a loss, not at Falcons. It doesn't matter that one did not matter At Patriots Loss.
Speaker 2:This is going bad. Cowboys, that's a loss. Jets that's a loss At Jets. That's a loss. Bills.
Speaker 1:At Packers Saints.
Speaker 2:They'll be the Saints At Falcons, at Niners Rams it's so bad At Saints. Buccaneers and then Seahawks, buccaneers At Buccaneers. That's a crazy way to end the season, real quick those last eight games is fucked up.
Speaker 1:You have Bills, then the Packers. That is fucked up. They got you so dirty bro Real quick. Those last eight games Is fucked up. You have Bills, Then the Packers. That is fucked up.
Speaker 2:God, you're so dirty, bro Real quick.
Speaker 1:That is so fucked up.
Speaker 2:Bills and at the Packers In November.
Speaker 1:That is fucked up. My bad, I bet the ender for them too, I bet, but they'll look better, don't they?
Speaker 2:Man, I think the team will be better. But it won't look that way but it won't look that way because they'll lose so many games.
Speaker 1:Those last like eight or nine games.
Speaker 2:Those were awful, that is a bludgeoning. Awful. No, that was not good, that was a.
Speaker 1:I don't even see ones. I can kind of flip. They may win.
Speaker 2:And when is their bye week? Week 14? Dang. So they have to go the first 13 weeks and they? That is not a good stretch, man, it's not a good stretch at all. I have a top pick again they will, but they're probably. Are they going to be taking a quarterback? Because if things go badly, bryce young is doing well?
Speaker 1:I, obviously, I think real quick if he's playing well and y'all, just y'all, aren't good enough to beat these teams, then it's a little different.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because that Bryce Young was playing well last year. I really he was At the end of last year. He was good.
Speaker 1:I would say if you're going into these games and he's playing fine, he's not making mistakes y'all just aren't good enough to beat these. Let that man go. Let him play again.
Speaker 2:Or if he gives you any reason to question it.
Speaker 1:You are going into a great quarterback draft Going into a great quarterback class and, from the looks of it, y'all are going to have a top five pick. I'm going to look that way Real quick, if he truly does give you reason to have doubt trade him to a sorry sucker of a team and go ahead and draft somebody else. The Colts Go get their pick.
Speaker 2:I don't know if they will go from the biggest quarterback, the biggest strongest, to the smallest and weakest.
Speaker 1:They just might, it's the Colts.
Speaker 2:It is the Colts.
Speaker 1:Y'all are battling with Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson. Bryce Young's fucking amazing compared to them.
Speaker 2:I think Daniel Jones, even at his most mediocre, gives you a little more hope than if Daniel Jones gives you any questions as a quarterback. You just drink all of my pride bro. It was good it was so unnecessary, you drank more of that than I did.
Speaker 1:I did. Oh God it was good.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's one of my favorites, real quick.
Speaker 1:I know, but Bryce Young is much more talented than Daniel Jones.
Speaker 2:Not physically talented.
Speaker 1:No, but as a quarterback he's way fucking better.
Speaker 2:I think he might be better at the position. He just can't see over the lines. But he can't see over the lines Every time he gets hit. It's a freaking crash test dummy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but he's not Daniel Jones, so it's better.
Speaker 2:I guess, but again, if you can, daniel Jones managed to throw for 4,000 yards and make the playoffs.
Speaker 1:And they paid him $40 million for it.
Speaker 2:They did. They overpaid him for it, but I'm like he has at least shown he can be a decent starter in the NFL, even if it is just a mirage.
Speaker 1:I don't even think Daniel Jones is better than Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 2:He's better than Kenny Pickett, unfortunately.
Speaker 1:He doesn't wear two gloves, not much better, but he is better. Well, not at the Super Bowl. That's cheating. It just might be, but that nigga has one, that's cheating. That's the backup too. He was the backup.
Speaker 2:He should not look at that ring and have any pride. I'll be looking at it, I'm a backup. He should not look at that team with any pride.
Speaker 1:He's not even a good backup. He was just like a throw-in. They won that game though the game he was in, they won that shit. Yeah, but it didn't matter. Look at my ring, see how it glows fuck you, joe flacco sitting over there like you see our shits bro but here's the thing.
Speaker 2:He's gonna show that ring to his kids one day and said they're gonna say dad, what did you do in that game? I held a good clipboard homie, oh.
Speaker 1:God, I held a clipboard and they paid me for it, and now y'all go to private school.
Speaker 2:Hey, you see that play right there. I helped Jalen Hurts be able to diagnose that play because I gave him a little tip earlier on that week, but in the game not a thing Don't matter. I wore that headset so good.
Speaker 1:Don't matter, it's so good you pull up his pro football reference page.
Speaker 2:That's one time.
Speaker 1:Super Bowl win, oh my God.
Speaker 2:What does it matter? What does it matter? What does it?
Speaker 1:matter. What does it matter?
Speaker 2:I know he's Kenny Two Gloves bro. I never want to give that man any type of credit for anything.
Speaker 1:That boy has a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:He has a ring. We should just like have a cutoff to where guys should not get rings. If you did, nothing Real quick.
Speaker 1:we should build a team of guys who have backups, who have a Super Bowl that you didn't think had one that would be so cool. Yeah, of backups that have a Super Bowl ring. That'd be great.
Speaker 2:The all-time did-nothing backup Super Bowl ring. I don't think we're going to name it for that. But we need to do that for next podcast, that'll be our thing, it's like fucking Danny Green, who has six in basketball it's crazier because it's like it's just these guys move around on. These rocks are so much.
Speaker 1:I know, but how did Danny Green win six in eight years? Yeah, he was. What the fuck happened there?
Speaker 2:He was a big thing for the Raptors when they did it.
Speaker 1:Well, he was a part of that trade package for the Raptors, but again he can defend. He's a 3 and D guy and he was good at what he did.
Speaker 2:Wasn't he on the Lakers team too?
Speaker 1:He was Exactly. Now that you think about it, you're like whoa. He was on that 21-inch team. It's kind of crazy, ain't it? He was also, I think, on the Warriors. At some point it was the Spurs. He won with the Spurs.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he's definitely on the Spurs ones.
Speaker 1:I think that's where that's when you're at his best. I think that's where he got some of them.
Speaker 2:He has three. Oh, he has three, I know about that 14, 20, 20, 20, 14, 20,.
Speaker 1:How do you keep Enzo in the same spot? You just end up in the right spot at the right time. You have three. Danny Green ain't bad. He is a great role player.
Speaker 2:No three guy Not much of a D guy, but very good three guy at his best Sick.
Speaker 2:All right, all right. So for the next pod, we'll do the all NFL team with championships that didn't do anything for them. We'll do that. But yeah, the all NFL team with championships that didn't do anything for them. We'll do that. Um, but yeah, that's about it. For the podcast here, we've done this. We've done a pretty good pot here. All words, maybe. I think it'd be more fun to like to find the quarterback that has one that should that. That'll be just the fun one.
Speaker 1:She just find the quarterback that has multiple and shouldn't.
Speaker 2:Oh, that'd be crazy that multiple and shouldn't oh, that'd be crazy. That'd be crazy. All right, had a good pod today. Had a really good conversation, had a lot of fun doing it, so let's go ahead and end the podcast here. So if you like the podcast, subscribe to the podcast, if you know.
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