JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
College Football is Back: Recapping Farmageddon and Itching For Real NFL Football
What happens when the veil is lifted on professional sports? In this wide-ranging conversation, we explore how modern fans experience sports differently than previous generations who could believe athletes competed purely for the love of the game.
Jake Paul's boxing career becomes our entry point to this discussion. While criticized for not respecting traditional boxing paths, Paul might actually be doing the "quiet part out loud" – acknowledging that boxing, like many professional sports, is fundamentally entertainment with business interests at heart. Not every athlete aims for championships; some prioritize maximizing their financial opportunities, and that's always been true.
The Cincinnati Bengals' handling of Trey Hendrickson's contract situation highlights this same tension. Despite transforming their defense from bottom-ranked to respectable when he's on the field, the organization seems reluctant to invest appropriately. As we discuss, this approach risks alienating franchise quarterback Joe Burrow, who signed a shorter deal that suggests he's watching closely how serious the team is about winning.
We also dive into college football's return, Michigan State's prospects for the season, Michigan's sign-stealing scandal and light punishment, and rank our top 10 NFL cornerbacks. The episode concludes with a provocative ethical thought experiment that reveals surprising differences in our moral boundaries.
Whether you're a die-hard sports fan or simply interested in how entertainment, business, and athletics intersect, this episode offers fresh perspectives on why we watch and what we're really seeing when we tune into the games we love.
Welcome back to this podcast. Today is Saturday, August 23rd. We're back from the podcast.
Speaker 2:And we back. We got everything going on. Right now, not everything, but college football is back. It's currently week zero and we are obviously recording after the only college football week one game.
Speaker 1:I have not worked out how I'm going to watch. Let's look at this.
Speaker 2:Like NFL-wise or college football-wise, any of them. Well, college football is a tad bit easier because obviously there's going to be on plenty of different channels. But oh, you don't have any TV channels at all. You can always steal it off. Mom, she let you do it last time, but again, as soon as she let you let somebody else on, it kicks you off. So, oh, oh, question. So here's where it is right. You say that you're broke, but so this may not even be an option. But they say on draft kings, they have a thing where if you make a five dollar bet, they give you like $150 off of Red Zone.
Speaker 1:That doesn't solve my college football problem.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I mentioned it because I saw it, but I missed that because I was already subscribed to it, so I couldn't unsubscribe and then use that.
Speaker 1:So I was screwed. It does not solve my college football problem. But I'm not going to pay $80 a fucking month to pay for Hulu. I can't.
Speaker 2:That is true. That is a lot of money to deal with, for sure.
Speaker 1:Especially when I pay $20 for Hulu and Disney+.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you don't get the live TV from that. All you get is the other stuff, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like the stuff that's basically on demand.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I say.
Speaker 1:yeah, streaming the streaming side of hulu but I'm at a point where I've sat back and be like damn, getting direct tv would be cheaper than paying for fucking hulu it's all.
Speaker 2:It's just all the different things you have to buy in order to do it, because now espn bought red zone.
Speaker 1:Oh, so I end up in the same predicament I guess you have hulu plus Disney Plus, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, You'll probably get the ESPN app and there's a chance you might get Red Zone out of that. No, I don't.
Speaker 1:Because they bought Red Zone. I didn't opt into that. You need to. Yes, it legit went from $20 to $40. Because ESPN Plus is worth $20, and it kind of low-key is it low-key is yeah?
Speaker 2:it kind of is.
Speaker 1:But again, Red Zone don't fix my problem.
Speaker 2:It fixed the Sunday problem. I guess you can get the best parts of everything, because again, when it comes, to Bengal stuff.
Speaker 1:You'll get it on live TV for the most part. Why do I have live TV, my nigga?
Speaker 2:No, but you can like get a satellite and you can still get those channels I have one.
Speaker 1:It don't give me no channels. It the broke nigga package of.
Speaker 2:Hey, here's sports documentaries. Don't you get CBS and NBC?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Fuck. No, how do you not?
Speaker 1:Everybody gets that for free. Turn the TV on. Show him that we don't got that shit. Yes, I have CBS sports. They show documentaries. I got CBS sports. There would be ESPN 1, 2, and 3. I got ESPN 37. That's the shit. They show documentaries. I got CBS Sports. There would be ESPN 1, 2, and 3. I eat ESPN 37. That's the shit they give you.
Speaker 2:You'll get a couple free channels, but they're ass. We'll get that fixed. So at least when the Bengals are playing in Ohio, usually they'll be on and you'll be able to watch that None of my problems.
Speaker 1:And that still doesn't fix. I can't watch Michigan State play.
Speaker 2:Okay, the. And that still doesn't fix. I can't watch michigan state play. Okay, the michigan state part. That that part will be tough. I'm not gonna lie to you, it will be um, that one will suck. Uh, hulu is the. Oh they say um sling. I just saw a commercial that said if you go to sling you can buy specific games. If you want to go on there and watch a specific game, just as much as it was, it's like $6. It's like $5. Per game. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, again.
Speaker 2:That's not terrible. If that's really an option, you don't have to subscribe to it. All you have to do is go on there and buy a specific game.
Speaker 1:What if they don't have my game?
Speaker 2:They'll. But again, as long as it's playing on regular tv, they'll have it. You just have to buy that game.
Speaker 1:This is the michigan state sports.
Speaker 2:That's just not on regular tv it will be I had to watch a game on the spanish network oh yeah, there, there will be a time where you'll have to get peacock, or the same thing for ohio state, but how it has to be on peacock for damn sure. Michigan state will be um, but we have peacock, there you go, you got peacock, that's. That's an option I.
Speaker 1:I have no, but we have Peacock there you go, you got Peacock.
Speaker 2:That's an option I have no fucking clue.
Speaker 1:What's my bad? Love Island's on Peacock. There it is.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's why that's what's on Peacock. Oh.
Speaker 1:You have. Peacock with no ads. How much that cost you?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that's with, that's with less ads, right, oh dang, she, has she sprung the currency goal is $8.
Speaker 1:No ads, just so everybody knows.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I pay $11 for you got the family. Yeah, because I'm frailing too.
Speaker 1:Then mine's probably like $6. Yeah. Nowhere near that much, even though I can play it on a couple TVs.
Speaker 2:With that subscription I could have gotten to see Demon Slayer earlier. But With that subscription I could have gotten to see Demon Slayer earlier, but by the time I saw that I already bought tickets, so I'm like oh, I can't.
Speaker 1:Oh, fuck yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:I could have bought tickets to see it earlier, but there was no guarantee they'd have a place showing it early here in Ohio. Usually that's going to be in San Francisco, New York.
Speaker 1:Yes, the big cities, the big cities, even though.
Speaker 2:Columbus is like one of the bigger cities. Big, big cities. Yes, even though Columbus is like one of the bigger cities.
Speaker 1:I believe we are top five. I think we're the number one fastest growing city.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly so like yeah, but yes, michigan State part. That is going to suck. We're going to have to figure out how the season goes. Steal some logins as you go. It's probably going to be the best way to go Kick Brie off. Put kick brie off, put you on. We'll just have to be playing that game and everybody's have to keep logging it back into it, don't fuck with me, bro.
Speaker 1:I will change the password. Stop playing with me. I can't do it's 80 fucking dollars.
Speaker 2:It is, it's, it's. What are we doing? Direct tv a month is only like 30, yeah, but there. But you don't get everything for 30 bucks. I I know, but at least I get a shot. I'll get more football games.
Speaker 1:Like. My problem is I'm cool with paying if I fuck with other football games. I'm going to watch Michigan State, cincinnati and then turn that bitch off.
Speaker 2:Well, you'll watch some of the bigger football games.
Speaker 1:I won't though, but I won't.
Speaker 2:That's my job in this whole thing with the podcast.
Speaker 1:I'll look on my phone.
Speaker 2:We do a sports podcast. You don't understand that right.
Speaker 1:And I do again During the year I'll look out for, like rookies. That's more what I care about. I want to see how they perform. And then, like, I'll pop in on some of the AFC teams the Chiefs, the Bills, the Ravens- the ones you're worried about your Bengals going up against, and I like talking shit about Steelers.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to pop in and see y'all niggas suck. I'm not going to watch it. Google's going to update me on it. I'm going to pin it to my screen and watch the highlights. I am not a football fanatic, you are a football fanatic.
Speaker 2:I know, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1:I'm a Bengals fan.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm a.
Speaker 1:Michigan State fan.
Speaker 2:You're a Joe Burrow slong slobber and that's it, that's it.
Speaker 1:I love football, but I love the Bengals, I love the Spartans.
Speaker 2:Okay, real quick. That kind of gets me into the first thing I wanted to say real quick. Did you hear about, before we get to the college ball, the one game that I watched today for week zero? Did you hear about Jake Paul fighting Tank Davis? Yes, I mentioned this to our stepfather last night and the first thing he said was Jake Paul's going to get knocked the fuck out. And then next thing so I'm like, oh, okay, fine, if you want to believe that. So if he takes this fight and looks like he belongs in the ring, will you give him more credit than what you've been willing to give him? And then he's like, oh, but there's a 60 pound difference, because jake paul rocks around to like 205 um tank davis is like in the middle weight, so like there's like a 45 pound difference no sorry, like 60 pounds.
Speaker 2:Right, there's like 60 pounds. So he's like then he's trying to like come back and kind of take steps back on his thing, kind of feeling like, oh, jake paul's taking advantage another fighter that's not of his weight and of his skill level, but I'm sitting like but he's facing a guy that's on a higher skill level than himself. Yeah, so this is where this is where my philosophical question that I wanted to ask you about do you think we missed us as fans because of our age? Do you think we missed the veil of being able to watch these sports and just blindly believing that everybody's trying to be the best at all times? Yeah, I think we missed that, because when our stepdad talks about boxing, he's like oh, everybody's trying to go for a belt. But I'm like but not everybody is in it to win a belt. Only but a few people get an opportunity to go win a title. Right, because you have to be famous enough, you have to be good enough, you have to put yourself in the right spots.
Speaker 1:You don't have to be good enough, you have to be famous enough.
Speaker 2:Well, a combination of both.
Speaker 1:That's not true. The fight has to make money. Right yeah, because there was a bunch of fights that we saw where the fighter was not as good. He may have been the second ranked challenger, right, but he wasn't nearly as good. He was just really famous, right. So I don't think I think in boxing it's more about the money they can make from it. Yeah, because pay-per-view sells still. Yeah, how the fuck it sells still. That shit has always baffled me.
Speaker 2:Pay-per-view still exists but it's going away, I will, it is because I'm already paying for the streaming service.
Speaker 1:Why would I pay to view the fight right?
Speaker 2:and I could just open up youtube.
Speaker 1:Somebody's streaming the fight. Right, but again I yes, I think we.
Speaker 2:I think we missed the mark. I think we have come up in an age where information is so widely available and the fact that the now the veil of just blindly believing that everybody is doing everything on the up and up and that everybody's trying to be the best they can be.
Speaker 2:I think we have missed out on that in a way that our older generation had, like that's what they attached themselves to, that's what made these sports all popular, right. And because we were talking about the Jake Paul thing, he was like Jake Paul is just trying to be sports entertainment. But I'm like at that level, that's all sports is, is entertainment, right, and I'm like so we can't, on one side, say that Jake Paul is doing the wrong things when it comes to not respecting the game and kind of starting from the bottom up. But you also have to understand on his side, because he's so famous he can't do what other boxers did in the low light, where they got to go fight 20-something times, and then if somebody beats them, it doesn't matter, fight 20 something times, and then if somebody beats them, it doesn't matter, right.
Speaker 2:If Jake Paul goes and puts his stuff on the is his reputation online early and fight somebody of his like earliest for him, early on, right. If he fights somebody of his caliber, of his weight and that has been fighting as long, fighting longer than him, and he loses, people will stop caring. Yes, and I think I think what I told him was that he is doing the quiet part out loud. He is taking the like everybody's saying oh. Because when he was talking about it he was like, oh, they get to a point where they are champions and they get to take the tomato cans and just make money. But I'm like Jake Paul has. He's kind of from where he's coming from.
Speaker 1:He has to make those fights worth his time because of the status that he has. Yes, he has a lot more to lose in a lot of these fights, but I think like fighting a guy like um tank davis uh, it's closer.
Speaker 2:I get it, the guy isn't the same weight as him, but he is of a closer age, he's not. He's not fighting um, um. Why am I forgetting his name? Uh, tyson, where he's 30 years older than Jake Paul, so he's doing it closer. I think I came to this conclusion that Jake Paul is doing it backwards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's starting from the top. In a way, he's starting from the top and maybe with guys that aren't as good as him and then kind of getting closer to what his skill level and what his age is, and I'm like there's room for that, there is room for somebody to go into it and not necessarily be looking for a belt. Just like in every sport, not every team in the NFL is all the way 100% going for a championship.
Speaker 1:That is not the case, but I well, see, this is where you lose me, because I believe that's always the overall goal.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think the NFL is a little bit of a weird one.
Speaker 1:I think it's actually very specific to boxing in a way that they're getting paid so much no matter where they're fighting, at at least here in the United States.
Speaker 2:Here in the.
Speaker 1:United States. They're getting paid so much fucking money that it doesn't matter. They're not getting paid like this everywhere in the world.
Speaker 2:But here you're talking, you lose a fight and get six hundred thousand dollars um so a lot talking about how early 30, 40 years ago guys were getting paid to tank fights but again, I think that's a boxing thing.
Speaker 2:I think boxing is so large because there's not one boxing league, there's like six or seven, right, right, and you have like Unlike the UFC right, because I kind of brought this up is that UFC has kind of made a full circle moment. Ufc started by being on regular television where everybody can watch it. They went to the streaming and then doing pay-per-views, and then now they've sold themselves to Paramount+ and now, starting next year, all of their fights will be for free as long as you're subscribed to Paramount Plus. In the same way that Jake Paul, his last few fights have all been on Netflix. So as long as you have a Netflix subscription, you can go watch the fight without having to pay extra.
Speaker 2:That was fucking awful. The what is it? The quality of it was awful, but I think that was before the netflix. Netflix are doing the christmas day games and those are a lot better, and so like that was a test case for what netflix is already trying to do very specific medium to do it, because I think, right in boxing, not everybody's always going for a bill all right guys figure out a point of hey, if I stay right in this point, I can make as much money as I need to survive, and some more.
Speaker 1:Right. But again, boxing is probably one of those sports that's very similar to baseball. Money is shoveled into it, yeah, because it is so profitable around the world that as a boxer you don't have to be a champion, right. But then you do have guys like. Canelo is a great one. He was a champion of three different leagues in his weight class. Right, but that was his only goal. I want to be a champion.
Speaker 2:I don't care about getting paid.
Speaker 1:I want to be a champion In a way that, like in the UFC, they don't get paid, shit, they don't, they get paid like trash.
Speaker 2:You don't get paid until you are a champion of that caliber, and that's when you really start getting paid Right.
Speaker 1:You're talking under titles, not even for, like, main card fights. You're not even under title of a championship fight. You're getting millions Right, For I think John Jones was talking about it. He was like for my championship fight I only won like 1.5 million. You're talking under cards. You are getting 3, 4 million. Fucking bench players in the NBA are getting 8. Like it's so in the UFC, you have no choice but to get famous, get good and be the champion.
Speaker 2:And that's when you can start negotiating your own price.
Speaker 1:Yes, and getting the money you're looking for. You're going to get paid regardless.
Speaker 2:As long as you do the right, as long as you get to a point where you're making your your, you have a good record and you get people to watch you and I think jake paul is kind of cutting it down the middle and doing it to where I think there is room for jake paul to be doing his thing and people not disrespectful.
Speaker 1:I think he's respectful to the game also, I think he puts time into it on boxing for a very long time. Huh, I think you've been able to bet on boxing. Oh yeah, so I think that's another reason why they've always been able to make a lot more money.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:You've always been able to bet on boxing. I don't think there's a time where you haven't been able to bet on boxing.
Speaker 2:Heck, they were doing it themselves and the next thing you know they're fixing fights and doing it all that way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and now you can legally bet fights.
Speaker 2:Right, but I be better on a fight yeah, for sure, um, so that's also a reason why they've made a lot of money so I just think there's room for all of I just think there's room for jake paul to do his thing and also for the people that want to be lifelong dudes, that wants to win championships. There's also room for that and I think that's why I kind of root for a guy of jake paul stature to kind of I like the chaos he kind of creates because, honestly, do I care about boxing in the in? Mostly no, I do not. I don't care whatsoever about boxing. I never really cared about boxing until, I hate to say, until jake paul came into the thing and started doing it. And then I'm like, oh, this is interesting. This is a guy I watched on youtube and now he's jumping into something that you would never think a guy like him would jump into. And he's like I said, he's giving, he's showing respect to the, he's putting in the time, he's putting in the effort, he's trying to get other boxes. I forget the women boxer. The woman that he has on his like I forget his company that does the tight of the fights is like she's like one of the best female boxers out there and she's always on the undercard, like fighting for actual titles, so like he's bringing eyeballs to the sport in a way that other people are not, because, comparing it to UFC, there is no one person leading it like there is for the UFC, where they get, there is a person that tells everybody to get in line. This is the way we're going to do things, and I think boxing took a real hit when it came to popularity because of that.
Speaker 2:So I just think for a guy like and this brought me to the whole thing of like, did we miss the mark on all sports? I think to a certain extent, because we know how much money these guys are making. I think when Kyrie, I think like a month or two ago, was complaining about how everybody knowing what he makes is like a security risk, and I'm sitting there like, yeah, I guess, if you really want to start nitpicking, that may be the case. But I also think that people care so much they want to know how much these players make so they can oh, they could do the trade machines Like. There's people that truly do like trade machine stuff all the time that want to know this information because they care so much. And I think that because, like I said, because the information is so readily available, because people care so much.
Speaker 2:I think the veil of just the love of the sport has kind of been lifted a bit and I think has robbed us to a certain extent of the fantastical nature of potentially, like you know, like the old In the Frozen Tundra videos where you get to watch with the crazy music on and you see those guys being out there, being true like warriors out there, just doing it for the love of the game because money wasn't as readily available to them. They're really doing it because of that. But I think the longer as time has gone on, the more sports has become sports entertainment. It's not just for the love of the game and I think we mentioned football. Well, I don't think it's like that for everybody, not every, we mean like everybody I think it's some sports it is.
Speaker 1:I just want to play, I think oh yeah other sports, like baseball is a big one. That is a big one to reference. It is no longer for the love of the game. I need to get paid. Like juan soto had no reason to leave the yankees, they gave him a similar offer, it was just a little less money. So I think in baseball that is the biggest one of.
Speaker 2:It's no longer for the love of the game but I also think, to a certain extent, the guys that are doing the single, a double, a triple, a like being lifers trying to make it to the league. I think there is a little bit of love to the game, fat love of the game, factor of it, where that's why they're doing it for so long, because nobody's making any bones by the fact that they're not making money I agree, single double.
Speaker 1:But again, who the fuck's watching?
Speaker 2:that people in the in those towns there they go to the games like you'll go to Clippers games here in Columbus, but again Clippers, that's AAA baseball.
Speaker 1:A lot of those guys are major leaguers. They will be, or they will be at some point, or they have been Right yeah, or they're guys that are going up and down at random, right, so you're talking like I don't know man, I feel like it's.
Speaker 2:I think football is in a different spot because I think football is one is like at least NFL football, I think college football to a certain extent too, even though I think they're kind of going the other way because of all the expansion and all the playoff spots and all that where I think there is a they kind of have a good handle on it being a television product, as well as as many teams as possible really trying like the players really caring about going to win a championship.
Speaker 2:and I think football, I think the sport itself, is a game where, if you are not out there trying to be the best you can be, it's very hard to half-ass the game of football you can't half-ass game of football so I think, even if you are in it just to get paid, I think there has to be a part of you just trying to be the best that you can be and trying to go out there and win as much as possible.
Speaker 2:I think football kind of has the perfect, like as close to a perfect balance as you can get of having money and having it be a television product, as well as it being as competitive as possible and really actually caring about trying to go win a championship. So I think football kind of sits outside of this, this little this, this discussion, but I think, to a certain extent, all the other sports. I think we I think us, because of our age and like being of a younger generation, having so much information, I think we have missed out a little bit on what some of the older generations have of falling in love with the sport and just with the sport itself and kind of having that I don't want to say veil over their heads, but I think that's the only way I can really say it.
Speaker 1:I think veil is not a bad word for it.
Speaker 2:Like I don't want to make it seem like they're just children that were like you guys were stupid to think that, right? No, I don't. I don't want to make it seem like that, but I also.
Speaker 1:They were sold that every player doing it was doing it for the love of the game and the money wasn't a factor and I think it worked.
Speaker 2:And I think it worked and I think now, because so much money has gone into, I think everything has gone 10x. Everything is a lot bigger now. So I think things have changed over time too. I'm not saying they're saying that it was always billions of dollars being put around in sports. That was not always, always. This is always the case, but there was always being money made and people were making the money. But it's just now the fact that in a lot of these cases, the quiet part is now loud. I think it has now turned a lot of people off, at least of older generations, of what they're doing.
Speaker 2:I'll log getting back to Jake Paul. Jake Paul is doing the quiet part out loud, making the money and trying to be the best sports entertainment guy in boxing he can be, and that's where people are trying to disrespect him, when I think there is room for all of it. There's room for the championship guys, there's room for the guys that are just trying to get their money and go home, just like I think there's room for that in every sport out there. I think there is Not. Everybody is doing it for the exact same reasons and I think believing anything different is stupid of you, at least nowadays 30, 40, 50 years ago, when information wasn't so readily available, I can understand like having that veil over you and not necessarily going to look for it and just easily believing it. But I just think that nowadays I think just having that just straight 100 view is just stupid of anybody to believe, because people are different, they're multifaceted. Like as much as people can be great, they can be awful too. As much as they can be children, they can be adults that are looking for the best their own best interest.
Speaker 2:So I don't know that whole jake paul thing just brought that whole thought out in myself because I I was just sitting there like man cause I I? When those conversations happen with our stepfather, I guess usually that he's the one that's the much older person than us that has those type of outlooks, cause our grandfather is just a crazy person to talk to about sports. So we never really go into that with him. But our stepfather is like, because he have a certain age he still kind of fits that demographic to where every time I ever talk to him about this type of stuff I end up feeling like I'm making fun of him and I know he feels that way too, but it's not really how I feel it's just talk about things, it's it's your um how do I be nice to you about this?
Speaker 1:um, you're very opinionated when you talk and you're very steadfast when you talk yeah, I think we got it from our mother yeah, it's not.
Speaker 2:It can come off as really condescending at times and I can totally understand that. But I just think, when I know what I'm talking about, I'm really steadfast in that yes and sometimes it takes me a second to kind of step back away from it, like, oh, maybe I just need to accept the fact that sports for you as a child means different than when I was a child.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think we're coming up understanding different facets of what we're watching. So that's just something you know, just something that, off the top of my brain, I was thinking about today. So I figured that was a decent combo to have, which is not not not bad at all. So, college football week zero Canada state played Iowa state today. Not at all, no, it's cool. So college football Week zero Fuck. Kansas State played Iowa State today. Farmageddon in Ireland, which is crazy enough. You know, in Ireland it rains like 180-something days out of the year there 180?.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a lot Crazy. Insane that it rains that much.
Speaker 1:Oh, I got a better question how often does it rain in Seattle?
Speaker 2:Ooh, I don't know, that's actually a decent Google question.
Speaker 1:Not gonna lie to you. Is it that crazy Now that I'm wondering is it really that crazy, or does it rain more in Seattle? How often?
Speaker 2:Me as well. Does it rain in Seattle as well? Um, does it rain in seattle? Um a hundred, and seattle experience an average 152 to 165 days, with some measurable rain per year, so right around the same. Funny enough, oh, they and they. During the game they did also mention the fact that both k and Iowa are both bigger than Ireland. It just puts into perspective how big our country is in comparison to everything else. Because that's wild, I think they say Texas is bigger than all of the UK.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I was about to say. It's bigger than the entirety of Europe.
Speaker 2:That's how big Texas is. It just puts into perspective how big our, our country, truly is.
Speaker 1:A comparison everything else in the world, which is why, like I see videos of um people in europe talking like oh, two hours is so far away and I'm like two hours wouldn't get you out of fucking ohio nope, and our state's not the largest in the world. It's like two hours would get you to Cincinnati. I was like two and a half hours gets you to Kentucky.
Speaker 2:I was like I'm talking, I think I heard something that said that Texas, if you went from side to side, you would spend more than like two days driving Like dude what the fuck You're talking.
Speaker 1:I could drive for almost 14 hours and I wouldn't even leave Fucking Texas.
Speaker 2:Right If I start in.
Speaker 1:Houston. It's gonna take me two days To get to fucking.
Speaker 2:Houston on the right and then you're going to the left. Houston's on the.
Speaker 1:Houston's on the bottom. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So if I leave from Houston, what's the? There's one city At the very like little Point of Texas.
Speaker 2:Map of Texas.
Speaker 1:Why can't I think of the name of it?
Speaker 2:I'll get it for you. Map of Texas, houston's bottom right. So you're trying to get to the top left. Yeah, there's no city of note Amarillo. That's not a big city, though. The big cities are Houston, San Antonio, Austin, Dallas and Fort Worth.
Speaker 1:Those are all kind of San Antonio is up to the right, ain't it?
Speaker 2:No, San Antonio is pretty close to Houston. Fuck, I don't know.
Speaker 1:But again, if I want to go from Texas and I want to try to get to Oklahoma, I would take them three days You'd drive for a while.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was trying to get to Oklahoma.
Speaker 1:I was taking three days. You're driving well, yeah, you're talking from here to Tennessee. I think it's like 10 hours.
Speaker 2:Six. It's eight Eight yeah, eight's the number, that's eight hours.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so in eight hours in Europe I could probably go across 50 other countries.
Speaker 2:Driving around 60-something miles an hour.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're getting-. No, it doesn't. It does. Europe is mountainous, yeah, for sure, but like, if you're driving around the rockies here, don't you're hitting, like your tennessee your virginia, yeah uh, pencil some pentagonia west virginia's, yeah, uh a lot of mountains involved.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so yeah, for it's a much bigger country in general. And so, getting back to the game 24-21, iowa State won the game. The game was pretty much a real bore. For the first half. I think there was only two touchdowns scored between the first and second quarter, and the touchdown that happened in the second quarter was literally at the very start of the second quarter, and then nobody scored until late in the third quarter, like a minute left. And then in the fourth quarter there was four scores and it was pretty much a back and forth affair during the game. The weather was a factor. Nobody can catch the football whatsoever or throw football because of how much rain it was happening. And then by the fourth quarter, when the rain stopped, it's crazy enough the offense started to open up a little bit.
Speaker 2:It's not like again, it's not like Kansas State and Iowa State are like the biggest offensive juggernauts out there. So I think it was a very good game. It was a bore at times but I think it brought it brings back the idea that in college football things can change at a moment's notice in a way that in the NFL it doesn't, because everybody's pros and everybody's knows they're doing it all times. And I think the amount of variance in college football from game to game, even when you're playing teams of similar caliber, it can change on a dime so fast and I think it just adds to the explosive nature of the sport from game to game and I think that's what makes it so much fun to watch.
Speaker 2:And did I watch any other game today? I have not. Um week one is when everything truly starts. Obviously, how state plays Texas, that's a crazy big game talk about, we'll talk about on a future pod later on this week, next week, but like this I just watch the game. It's big enough. So I'm like you know, let me give it a watch and I think I had a lot of fun watching it.
Speaker 1:Texasxas, who's the star arch?
Speaker 2:arch arch man, he's the. The prodigal son will be here to start, he's coming to columbus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you poor soul I'm not.
Speaker 2:It's not guaranteed that he's the goat, like everybody's trying to say that he'll be a heisman candidate, and I'm like. We saw him play two games last year in the texas uniform against the one of the worst teams in the sec and against the mac team.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying osu is not a place you want to play um, it's a hard place to go and everybody's gonna be the place gonna be rocking, so like I think this will be a very good test for a guy like arch to see if he's gonna be the guy. Obviously, ohio is starting a new guy too and and we'll see what Julian's saying he's that dude. I'm very excited. Everybody says his game is like CJ Stroud's Pinpoint sniper type of arm Rocket.
Speaker 1:Not necessarily a rocket, not the strongest arm, but, like I feel, like he was the least talented guy on the earth.
Speaker 2:He's the most talented Of the guys we had. Last year he became like the third string guy of like a four man, four or five man room last year. So he's taking the next step. He's a. He's a sophomore. I think he'll be ready to go again.
Speaker 2:I'm it's gonna be a superstar in game one. Maybe maybe not, but again in week one will he be able to make enough plays to win with? You know, with Jeremiah Smith on one side, cardinal Tate on the other, brandon ennis, james peoples at running back and you know, the best offensive and defensive players in football on your team. I just think, as long as he doesn't throw the football to their team a bunch of times, I think we have a shot to win the game. I think there's plenty of talent. But again, we'll get to that a little bit later.
Speaker 2:But because of all this, I had already had my full couch ball pod that I talked about last week. That Jace wasn't a part of because I know it would just be a bore for him, but I wanted to give Jace's opportunity to give a little bit of his two cents on some things. Jace, as we all know, if you've been listening for a while or, if you haven't listening, is a big Michigan State fan. You know, because he of his hate me. He decides to pick one of the teams that my team gone against specifically in the year we lost to them. Last time we lost to them and now he's a big Michigan State fan. So my question, because we've already been through the thing before you're very negative on your team?
Speaker 1:I have made Realistic my nigga. I am realistic. I have made another bet. Shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up. I am not negative, I am realistic. I think you're negative, I think I'm realistic. Real quick, how does my negativity turn into?
Speaker 2:me being right three years in a row? Yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what that sounds like. I know what the fuck I'm talking about. You asked me the over-under while we were on the phone and I guess that shit is five and a half.
Speaker 2:Yeah, five and a half, Because. I know my team feeling and I guess that shit. Five and a half. Yeah, five and a half because I know my team and I bet the over on them.
Speaker 1:Once again, you're gonna lose that money for your straight I'm not gonna lose if they're gonna get it. They're gonna get it done just start giving it to me they're gonna get it done this year.
Speaker 2:They're gonna get it done. I I've made because, so I don't want to go through the thing again, because we've done this multiple times already and done this on the pot, off the pot. But if we just like in a perfect world, okay, early on in the season is there a specific game that, if they win, it'll turn your whole feeling of your team around in one game.
Speaker 1:When do we play Michigan?
Speaker 2:October 25th, right there, yeah, but before that you have three, seven games. Before that Is there a game early on in the season that, if they win that game, we'll be like, oh, we maybe can do something. I think the Boston College game may be it my nigga.
Speaker 1:we couldn't beat Boston College last year.
Speaker 2:Yes, but if you beat them this year, would it make you think like, oh, we can maybe do something?
Speaker 1:No, it all comes down to that. I watched them sit at five games for seven games straight. No, no, I watched them blow lead After lead After lead, after our.
Speaker 2:Really good defense.
Speaker 1:They were really good. You know why they were all so good.
Speaker 2:Cause they were all senior. They were all older dudes Out of the 11 guys On the Defense.
Speaker 1:Guess how many were seniors, like 7, 9, oh, okay, so we're replacing all nine of those guys mm-hmm and Aiden Childs is our quarterback.
Speaker 2:We're fucked so there's nothing that can be done other than the Michigan game we'll get the niggas behind him. If they can't beat him, they're not good enough to play because I think Michigan State would be bad enough to where I don't think that beating them would be the highest mark of all time. I think Michigan's going to take a few steps back this year because I think even in comparison to the team they had last year, they lost first-round picks they had on that team and their offensive line's going to be worse?
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure, but I also think they're not worlds different than you right now.
Speaker 1:If there's something to look forward to beating them, it's better than nothing.
Speaker 2:True.
Speaker 1:Because there's nothing insane. People like Michigan fans can say to hey, you fucking lost. Fuck up my face the year. They beat you guys, but lost to us. I walk around with balls bigger than fucking kickballs, bro. You know you beat Ohio State. That's crazy, we beat you by three touchdowns. Fuck out of my face. My friend Tavion was walking around the hallways the Michigan flag. You know what I said to him Couldn't stop it. Kenny Walker had almost 200 yards in your fucking dome. Where's that great defense at?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, but we're better than you.
Speaker 2:Where you had the opportunity on the field and you didn't. I didn't see it Exactly.
Speaker 1:So who gives a fuck? I don't give a fuck about it. We can lose that really good. Fuck Michigan. I fucking hate Michigan. My hatred for Ohio State is becoming eclipsed by my fucking hatred for Michigan Because their fans are fucking awful.
Speaker 2:They are.
Speaker 1:Ohio State fans don't punch down, it's beneath them.
Speaker 2:Right, they have a little we have. In general, ohio State fans have a little bit of class.
Speaker 1:You are blue bloods and you know it. Yeah, they don't punch down Right, which is what I think caused me to hate Ohio State so much, because you fucking punch down all the fucking time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's our brotherly thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm up to fucking. Punch you, punch down, punch you square in the fucking face you stop saying that shit. It was one time where I got fucking heated. We you stop saying that shit. It was one time where I got fucking heated. We were at the table. I got genuinely fucking heated over it.
Speaker 1:I was freaking the fuck out. I was probably about 17, 18 at the time. I was freaking the fuck out and, of course, none of you have seen me in person. I am a big, brolic black motherfucker. I am huge. I am a large person. Compared to your average person. The average height here in the US is probably about 5'10". I am four inches taller than that and Joe has said stop fucking with me.
Speaker 2:It's gone both ways.
Speaker 1:Again, but again it's not as bad as it used to be.
Speaker 2:Right, for sure, in the sense of.
Speaker 1:I know Michigan State is not as good as Ohio State. I cannot fault that Even the year we were good. I knew it was all for naught. We were good, but we weren't like that.
Speaker 2:That might have been my most boisterous I've ever been at. Anything in my life was that game where you went into it and you were so hype.
Speaker 1:But again, we had that podcast. I was talking about shit. We stopped the podcast. I was like we probably going to fucking lose. I was straight up with you. I was like we had that podcast. I was talking about shit. We stopped the podcast. I was like we probably going to fucking lose. I was straight up with you, I was like we probably going to fucking lose. But I'm going to cheer him on regardless. Yeah for sure, because again Kenny Walker was fired.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no question he still got his yards.
Speaker 1:In that game it's just Ohio State scored once and Michigan State didn't, and and then Michigan State didn't. Yeah, and then we were like, hey, Peyton Thornton, throw this bitch. He was like I got you Other team.
Speaker 2:Didn't even get close.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Other team other team, other team, other team. Oh my fucking God, he threw three interceptions, yeah, and then fumbled twice.
Speaker 2:I think Ohio State had like seven straight possessions, all touchdowns Again. That was with the CJ Stroud. I think one of the best things that has happened for our brothership is that now it's not guaranteed every cause, we're not in the same division anymore and there's no divisions in the big 10 that our teams don't have to face each other every year. I think we haven't faced each other the last two years now and I think next year I think we'll facing each other again, I think. But I think it has helped our brothership. We don't have to see each other every year in college football, because that's another thing for you to hate me, for no for sure. But I think when it comes to the because again, we face each other so much in our pro teams obviously, being a pittsburgh fan and bengals fan that I think we have our guaranteed matchups, no matter what anyway, and we have to like because they're in this season.
Speaker 2:There is a world where michigan state can do everything they want to do and ohio state can, and as as they don't meet each other in the Big Ten championship game, I can root for your team. You can root for my team. You're not going to do that, but I can root for your team without ever fearing what your team can do to mine. Again, even in your best season. It's not like I'm really all that scared because, again, michigan State and Ohio State are very different. But at the same time I think and again I think we've gotten past the point of me punching down on your team just because we know each other's lines and we know each other's hard lines now. So that's not necessarily going to be the case. And again, I think with Pittsburgh and Cincinnati, we do that enough already that I think I have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but in that sense I'm punching down. You're no equal to me. Watch your mouth, Right.
Speaker 2:Okay, fine, yes, we would have killed in the playoffs. Y'all wasted that opportunity. Yes, that is very much the case. Yeah, but yeah, so I can root for Michigan State to be above five and a half wins without much of an issue. And then you can be negative, and then when my bet cashes this year, I'll be very happy about it.
Speaker 1:I need you to start owing me $5 every time you get one of these bets wrong.
Speaker 2:Because if you're, gonna waste money.
Speaker 1:I need to profit off it somehow you're wasting money. We've already made our bet this season.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, y'all go under 500. Yeah, that's not gonna happen, guaranteed we'll see. Um, but okay, next thing, uh, michigan, have any thoughts? I just want to leave the door open for you, because I already have my big soliloquy about it, the slap on the wrist that it was. I just wanted to give you your open door policy to go ahead and say whatever you want to about the whole thing.
Speaker 1:I kind of thought of it. I thought back about how these sports treat the cheating as a whole, how sports treat cheating as a whole. Did the Patriots win the Super Bowl the year they were deflating?
Speaker 2:footballs yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, okay. I believe that if a team is cheating like that to where it gives them an advantage, they should be stripped of the wins.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:The Astros should have been stripped of their World Series. Mm-hmm, the Patriots should have been stripped of their World Series. The Patriots should have been stripped of their Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And Michigan should have been stripped of their national championship, right Because?
Speaker 2:even if.
Speaker 1:You gave yourself a strategic advantage.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It was blatant, yep, everyone saw it, they lied in everybody's faces, over and over and over again. You were found out, yep, and they did nothing about it. Yep, there has to be a consensus of cheating is bad. So now it just sounds like. And then I sat back and thought I was like what if a fucking Mac team did this Yep, would anything have really happened? My bad. Who did it? Akron, or was it Kent State?
Speaker 2:Akron Akron, they had an academic scandal, stuff where their players weren't going to class, and they actually got bowl banned for this season which is crazy. That's fucking wild they got postseason banned but they said against about. Michigan. They didn't want to do that.
Speaker 1:These motherfuckers had a dude on the fucking Central Michigan sideline Yep.
Speaker 2:In their gear.
Speaker 1:Akron is no threat to anybody, right.
Speaker 2:They'll never like. Making a bowl game would be a dream for them, for the players as well as the school, because it's not something they usually do. I don't know.
Speaker 1:They're talking on both sides of their mouth. After they got a bowl ban, Michigan State got a slap on the wrist and the dude, their coach, is banned. He's suspended for the Central Michigan game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, next year, and then they self-impose a two-game suspension for this year and then a 30 up to 30 something million dollar. Fine, because they won't get their money for making the postseason for the next two seasons. So but here's the thing. I just think, like I said I'm not sure if you listen to the pot, that I did it by myself or not but like if it just shows that if they're willing, if you're willing to pay the price on the back end and they're not going to vacate wins again, does vacating wins truly fucking matter? Probably not. We all saw it happen, it happened. Can you put an asterisk on it and all the websites? Maybe, but like it doesn't change the fact that in the moment we saw them achieve what they achieved what two years were they cheating again?
Speaker 2:they. They were treating three or so. They were cheating in 21, 22, so 22, 23, and then the 23 to 24 season when they got caught.
Speaker 1:So they were cheating and still couldn't beat Michigan State Crazy.
Speaker 2:True, and I think people are like, oh, they weren't cheating when the games mattered most, like when they won the championship. I'm like, yeah, but the cheating allowed them to build themselves up to the point where they had a team good enough to win without cheating, and the whole idea of we don't want to blame kids that weren't a part of it. Then either you have to get much faster at identifying what they did wrong and blaming them and putting punishments down, or you have to be willing to say, hey, these kids, they get an opportunity to leave once it happens. So we got to go ahead and dole out the punishments, because it just shows as long as you want to pay the big price on the back end, then cheat the fuck away. And what's stopping a team like Texas Tech that has multiple billionaires behind them for saying you know what, we have the money, let's go ahead and cheat our asses off for the next few years, win a championship and then we'll just go back to being bad teams again.
Speaker 2:What's stopping that from happening? I just think that the ncaa double a kind of like lost the opportunity to really like, nip this whole shit in the bud when they did that. But you know again it's. I'm glad it's over, I'm glad, I'm just glad it's over. We can just talk about football again. I think that's my like main thing, like I don't know at this point it doesn.
Speaker 1:They're just going to go back to being okay, right, so it doesn't really matter, right? But again, it's still just frustrating. It's frustrating. I feel like everybody knew it was going to be a slap in the wrist. Everybody had known that Harbaugh ain't even in NCAA anymore.
Speaker 2:He got a 10-year show called on top of the four he's already had and they asked about he's like I'm not going to engage and I'm like you know the fuck why he has no intention to go back to college and coach so what's it matter?
Speaker 1:that's my thing. I was like it doesn't matter. I was like that dude's never coming back, he's gonna go in the nfo and then retire eventually so what's it matter? Right, um, so I don't know. I guess I just kind of just a nothing burger of a punishment is what it was, yeah again.
Speaker 2:Never expected all that much more, but you know it. Just it's still. It's a bummer in the moment. Still all right. So now we got off that we're going to talk about more college football stuff when week one, when we have another pod later on this week. But let's go ahead and go on to the nfl stuff. So, because there's plenty of news stories, uh, preseason football still happening. I think we have a bunch of preseason games still going on. This is week three of that. So NFL News Bengals We'll start with that, because let's go and get it out of the way. They are now actually listening to Trey Hendrickson trades. Why now?
Speaker 2:is my question. I felt like you could have done this so much earlier and gotten something before the draft Draft of somebody that could help Again, they thought they did with Shamar Stewart, but you could have gotten two guys that could help with the extra draft capital you could have gotten.
Speaker 1:Or just a slightly higher pick and not.
Speaker 2:Shamar Stewart. So I'm just wondering, like, why? Like I just felt like they were like hey, trent Hendricks and we're just going to sit here and try to wait you out and I think he has done everything he can to show that he's serious about this and he's not just going to come back. I don't, I just I don't again. We've had this conversation so many times, but it just keeps. This was a development that noted, like warranted at least a little bit of talk about it.
Speaker 2:I just think this like when we were talking about earlier about how not every team is looking trying to win a championship at all costs. The Bengals are the perfect, even though they have a player. They have players on this team that are championship worthy, championship caliber.
Speaker 1:offense the defense. You don't want to pay. Yes, so is your goal. Their goal is to sell tickets Because, real quick, the Bengals don't have a lot of cash flow, right.
Speaker 2:We know this right.
Speaker 1:The Bengals just don't have a lot of cash flow.
Speaker 2:But they still have enough to go and pay their players if they want to, but they don't want to.
Speaker 1:They can't pay them all, but they can pay Trey Henderson. They have the money in the cap space right now to pay Trey Henderson and you're not why, why?
Speaker 2:Because I think the Bengals are trying their hardest to try to show Joe Burrow they're willing to dole out the money when he wants them to, but also try to get by by not paying a bunch of money. And I think again we went back to our conversation. We had to start this whole podcast. Not everybody is going to be like the Eagles and pay every single cent possible to go win a championship, or the Chiefs or the Pittsburgh Steelers doing it the wrong way, but still I will never question that they're paying as much money as they possibly can to try to go win. It may not work, but they're trying.
Speaker 2:So I just think they're just, they're just not. There's fucking around too much man. I just I don't understand and I just think the more they do this, the more I fear that joe burrow one day is gonna be like fuck this, I'm done. And I think as much as players of his caliber never get traded or never get dropped or they're never free agents, I think he's one of those dudes that will challenge it, because at the end of the day, I think Joe Burrow has it in his brain. I think he has the fuck this, I'm gone.
Speaker 1:I want to win.
Speaker 2:He'll turn it off. I think he'll turn it off. He'll flip the switch real quick, yes, and he's like if y'all aren't doing everything that that I need to, if I'm out there, if I'm wasting the prime of my career.
Speaker 1:I believe this is the year of that could happen if he goes out there and does the same shit he did last year again denied a playoff berth, denied a chance at actually winning an MVP because the team is awful and all because y'all haven't paid for Henrickson.
Speaker 1:Cause if y'all fuck around and wait this long and he ends up playing anyway and he's just not good cause he didn't. Because if y'all fuck around and wait this long and he ends up playing his first anyway, and he's just not good Because he didn't practice Yep, and we go 9-8 again. Joe Bro makes it back, yeah.
Speaker 2:Because, again.
Speaker 1:Everybody needs to remember this. Motherfucker went on a five year deal, yep. He did not sign a. I'm staying with the Bengals for my whole career.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did not sign a Patchmore Holmes like deal.
Speaker 1:He was like mm. Y'all be fucking around.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna shorten this. I'm gonna get as much money as I can, but I'm also going to sit there and make it a shorter deal to where we're gonna have to come to the table again and I'll have my opportunity, and I just think that and we're not winning.
Speaker 1:What are we doing? He will flip that switch really fast.
Speaker 2:He has it in him. He's very charismatic, he cares about the city of Cincinnati. He'll do all that, but at the same time, I think he understands what his worth is and where he is as a player and as a quarterback. I'm not going to waste this greatness that I'm on right now for a team that's not willing to do everything possible, like I'm out here doing everything possible to go win a championship.
Speaker 1:I just don't understand that If you weren't going to pay Trey Hendrickson, you should have brought in at least more smaller defensive pieces.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because you guys have the money to pay, like one or two good defensive players Yep, that just solidify the defense. Yep, players that just solidify the defense. I understand if you don't want to give Trey Anderson a huge deal, but again there were defensive pieces out there. You could have got Joey Bosa came over and fucking cheat to the Bills. Joey Bosa would have been very fucking helpful.
Speaker 2:Fuck, he only gives me 12 games, but again, that's better than nothing, right for sure, that's great I could have signed a DB, done some other shit.
Speaker 1:Right, there was guys who had got out there that are just solid.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:You don't need a world beater, especially when you just need the defense to make a couple stops.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And unfortunately, that's what Trey Hendrickson does.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:In the biggest moments the biggest plays.
Speaker 2:I'm going to make the stop. I think I heard the stat that with him on the field you're ranked 18th in a lot of the big major defensive stats and then without him you're 32nd. He makes him by himself makes that big of a difference on that defense. He puts us middle of the road. It wasn't 18th, it was like 20-something.
Speaker 1:But again he's 20-something to 30 seconds. That's crazy For one player to be like hey, I am so good, you are a middle-of-the-road defense with me, without me, you are the worst defense, like statistically. I knew that, yeah, I knew that. There's no way that works.
Speaker 2:You can see it on the field.
Speaker 1:You can see it when he's really good, but he's a middle linebacker.
Speaker 2:Right. The impact isn't this high because of the position he plays. I control the field in a way that others don't.
Speaker 1:He does a lot of other shit, but getting out for the quarterback is one of the biggest things in defense you can do, because passing is so high in the. Nfl that guys like this is why guys like Trey Hendricks are so important. Guys like Logan Wilson are very important. This is why guys like Trey Anderson are so important. Guys like Logan Wilson are very important. He's a Patrick Queen kind of guy, Roquan Smith kind of guy. Hey, I control the middle of the field and I'm good you can scheme me into defensive plays.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's not a premier position right now Defensive end for sure is. 30 years ago, yes, he'd be one of the best.
Speaker 1:He'd be one of the greatest players ever. But defensive end is where it's. At Yep, a defensive line is the best part.
Speaker 2:Defensive end and corner. Defensive line and cornerback.
Speaker 1:And right now we have neither of those Right.
Speaker 2:We gotta fix some stuff and you let Jermaine Pratt walk, so, like all of those things, it's like if you would have traded him earlier, could have gotten, not had that money in your books that you then used towards other players, and you'd be able to use that draft pick on something else that you could actually help your team, along with Shamar Stewart, or better than Shamar Stewart. Who ever knows what that could have been. But I just feel like, now that you're, it's just like all this it could have just been anything.
Speaker 1:It wasn't fucking Shamar Stewart, there was no forward thinking when it came to this.
Speaker 2:They were just like things are going to shit. I don't know. I don't know if it's starting to become Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1:He just doesn't talk to the media, but he's just as fucking senile. Oh, I'm looking at this dude like dude what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 2:It doesn't make any gosh darn sense whatsoever, man. It just doesn't All right.
Speaker 1:I don't want to go too far, rough, I think I don't. I don't know. Everybody's been sitting back making fun of the Bengals, like damn, money must be really tight, they must be charging players for them to wash clothes, wash jerseys and shit. I'm like you're probably right, they probably got fucking coin machine. They got coin washing machines at the facility. I believe that. But like god damn, you guys Like what the fuck Y'all know, winning the Super Bowl will probably bring a lot of money.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because then investors are like oh, this team's pretty good.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's hard to invest in a team that like, hey, you won't play one of your best players. As of right now, he is the second most important player on the team. Yeah, Jamar Chase is super fucking important, but I think Joe Burrow would still win without him. Teagan's super important, but Joe Burrow would probably still win without him. Joe Burrow can do as much winning as he wants. He physically can't. He can't win close games without a defensive piece. Mahomes wouldn't win nearly as many games as he does without Chris Jones. Trent McDuffie's very, very good, but Chris Jones is—.
Speaker 2:Chris Jones is the—that's the cornerstone of the defensive side. I force you to make mistakes.
Speaker 1:That Trent McDuffie can act on.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Without him, there's no quarterback pressure. Right, and it's where we're at right now. There's no quarterback pressure, yeah, and Jamar Stewart looks fucking slow, so You're gonna pay him.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately, Jamar Stewart. Ain't that fucking good and we're gonna. We're gonna get to Things that have been Happening in the preseason so far Both of our teams, but like.
Speaker 1:Again, we're not Doing him as dirty as the Cowboys Doing Micah Parsons True.
Speaker 2:No question. No question Because they don't have any of those. And again, as much as I don't believe in him as a player in general, but, like again, without Micah Parsons. The Cowboys are one of the worst defenses in the NFL too. So like they have no, goddamn excuse.
Speaker 1:But it's still a middle of the road team at the top of the run.
Speaker 2:True. Next thing Washington still hasn't got a deal. Still hasn't got a deal done with Terry McLaurin. Apparently there was a mentioned, there was a rumor that they called Pittsburgh and offered a trade for him. They said give us Pat Fryermuth and a second round pick and we'll give you Terry McLaurin. And the Steelers apparently laughed them off and just said they hung up the phone, which on one hand, makes total sense, because why would we give up that much when you then have to pay the guy on the back end? And not to mention we already have the guy that's getting paid like a number one receiver. We already have one of those guys. So why would we then give up so much for a guy we then have to give a big contract to?
Speaker 1:I should have went yeah, and we'll give you DK Metcalf too, and then said yes, the fuck, were y'all thinking I'm not Fuck the money. Yes, we'll take him. We will take him. I don't think you do.
Speaker 2:Your receiver room is sad. If we had a Joe Burrow, I would understand making the move. We have what's left of Aaron Rodgers, so Fuck.
Speaker 1:Terry McLaren shoots out to the stratosphere with what's left of Aaron Rodgers. Y'all n the stratosphere. What's left Air Rodgers? Y'all niggas suck, what the fuck. Pat Frymuth in a second.
Speaker 2:That's a lot to give up for him.
Speaker 1:Not when y'all just drafted a tight end. He shouldn't give up.
Speaker 2:Not a draft. We traded for Pat Frymuth, y'all niggas don't want to win. Pat Frymuth's a stealer. He Pat Fryer, pat Fryer is a stealer.
Speaker 1:He's a stealer. He's a great fucking player and he's a great guy. Don't want to win, apparently.
Speaker 2:I just think giving up that much money, that position doesn't make sense when you don't have a quarterback that can throw to them long term. I think that's more than reasonable for me to say. If they were giving Terry McCormick for a bag of Skittles, okay fine, but then you have to give that much and then pay the guy on the back end and he's not accepting $28 million because that's apparently the money that Washington's willing to give him and he's not accepting it. So if he wants upwards of $30, we already are giving DK $35.
Speaker 1:Again, he's not accepting it because he's probably at a point like hey, he's pissed off.
Speaker 1:Yes, and he's like Maybe he'll take a little bit less from another team if he's getting traded. No, if I'm Terry McLaurin, I'm here like, hey, I've been playing for this poverty-ass franchise for eight fucking years. I want a bag. We're good. Now, pay me Right. That's exactly what he's on right now. Hey, this franchise has sucked ass my entire career and I'm still fairly in my prime. I need to be paid Right Because, in all honesty, your receiver room is abysmal without him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. No question, their receiver room is trash. Yes, it is.
Speaker 1:Y'all have. I think they've cycled through like three running backs. They just traded their other guy to.
Speaker 2:Brian Robinson Jr. We'll get to that, but they traded him to the San Fran. Yeah, cool, to San Fran.
Speaker 1:Yeah cool, Brian Washington Jr has zero fucking vision on the field. That nigga don't see shit on the field.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he is a great guy catching passes out of the backfield, though he's explosive too.
Speaker 1:Now those guys keep losing their jobs, like how Rasheed White just lost his job After having a very good first year. They were drafted in the same class yeah, I don't know if anybody noticed. For some reason that class of running backs were all pass catchers. Go be fucking receivers. I'm just saying Rasheed White lost his job to Bucky Irving who came in on his first year. Rasheed White was in his second year. Brian Thomas Is his name, brian Thomas Jr. Yeah, I kept thinking. I was like no, that's a receiver trajectory. Nope, brian Thomas Jr lost his job.
Speaker 2:Brian Robinson Jr. Sorry.
Speaker 1:Brian Robinson Jr. Sorry, Brian Robinson, I was like no, that's wrong.
Speaker 2:Yep, Brian Robinson Jr.
Speaker 1:Yeah, lost his job to a running back in his first year because y'all can't run the ball very well.
Speaker 2:He didn't lose his job to a first-year receiver. He lost it to Austin Eckler, who they signed in free agency.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they have a different guy they already like. Yeah, it was like a young rookie guy, but he's not going to be the number one guy on the roster though. But again, they're trying to get cheaper at that position. Now, that was Bucky Irving.
Speaker 2:Bucky Irving was second round pick. That's true, Bucky Irving. They saw him and was like oh, he's that dude, and that's what he ended up being. When he came to the NFL, right away he was On the Steelers side. I don't like giving up that much, it's kind of crazy. But again, I just think you have a young quarterback you want to do stuff with and your defense is still shit. So I don't know how you expect to not pay Terry McLaurin and still be as good as you were.
Speaker 1:Dude. Their defense is shit. What is the Bengals Fuck?
Speaker 2:Bottom of the barrel, fuck, bottom of the goddamn barrel. Speaking of San Fran, san Fran has been making a lot of moves trying to improve their team. Before the season started we already kind of the aforementioned Brian Robinson jr being traded from the commanders in exchange for a six round pick. That's all they gave up for Brian Robinson jr. A good ad, they're saying.
Speaker 2:Chris McCaffrey is good to go going into the season that doesn't give me confidence that he's good to go right but even still, even if he is good to go, there's no way you can lean on him as much as you did at one point I think that's why they took brian. So getting a guy like that to be your sec, your second guy, because again their last few years they've been kind of like with, they've been sitting with christian mccaffrey and a bunch of who knows who these guys are, but still making still doing very good running the football even without him because of how that scheme is.
Speaker 2:So I think with a guy like brahms, brian robertson jr, as the second back, I think is a very big move for them. And then, on top of especially not giving only giving them a six round pick, it's kind of crazy they also obtained sky more from the chiefs if um for a late round pick swap in 2027,.
Speaker 2:I think the Chiefs are getting a sixth in exchange for a seventh. I'm going back to San Fran. I'm like Sky Moore couldn't do shit in that Kansas City offense, but I think the Kansas City is with. I mean sorry, San Fran is without receivers, so much.
Speaker 1:And they still have Paige Juan Jennings.
Speaker 2:Yeah, iuke's coming off of the coming off of an injury his this tearing his knee last year. Um, jennings, I think he's also injured as well as looking for money. So their privacy room is so injured that they just need to have somebody in the room. So maybe they can do something with Sky Moore, especially with only giving up like a six of what is it? Uh, just a pick swap. So I just think they're taking a chance, trying to get somebody to kind of help them out, because, even though I'm not as high on sanfran as a team, their schedule is so fucking easy that they still might be a playoff team that needs to have players of a certain caliber to do something. So I I get them trying to make these moves, trying to make themselves better.
Speaker 2:Next thing Saints obtain wide receiver Deshaun Vele from the Broncos for a 2026th fourth-round pick and a 2027 seventh-round pick. I think this is a good move for the Saints. Obviously, they already have their two receivers, obviously being Chris Olave. And who's the other receiver on the other side? Why am I forgetting the guy's name?
Speaker 1:Shahid, rashid, shahid, rashid Shahid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's like they already have their one and two. But having a guy like Vele, a young receiver, but he's also pretty tall as well, he has kind of a rangy, he's not not as fast, but he does a lot of good work in the slot, I think having adding a guy like that to that offense especially when they're going to be probably be starting a rookie quarterback for them this year having as many weapons as possible for Tyler Shuck to throw to will be is like the best thing for them. Here's my question, just real quick, on the Saints Do you have any clock as to what they're doing? I don't understand.
Speaker 2:I just don't understand how they can look at Tyler Shuck and what they have coming in the quarterback class that's going to be coming next year. I don't know how they can look at both of them and be like, oh, we're going to be okay with Tyler Shuck as our quarterback for years to come when that dude's 20-something, 27 years old, I think he's like 25. He's still very old to be a rookie and he has played so much football and had a tore in his knee a couple times. I just don't know how you can expect that to be your long-term answer. Unless this dude totally pops this upcoming season, maybe it'll totally change all of our minds on it.
Speaker 1:I think they have a whole bunch of midnight they should want to suck, right.
Speaker 2:I just think there's so many quarterbacks that are coming out next year's draft they should want to suck this year, but the saints can't bring themselves to do it. And I'm not even sure if it's even like in the Steelers class, to where they they are like they want to be good, but to where they want to be good, but just don't know how. But I don't know. It just doesn't make any sense to me. The Saints it's a good player that they're trading for. I'm just not sure if this is a move they should be making when at some point they should want to start losing to try to get a better draft pick going into next year. So I don't know. It's a weird one. Good player, but I just question what the thought was behind it in general.
Speaker 2:Next thing Texans trade wide receiver John Mechie and a six-round pick in exchange for tight end Harrison Bryant and a fifth-round pick. I think I read from what I read on this it is like a blocking upgrade. Harrison bryant is not nearly the receiver that they have. Um yeah, in their tight end room I think they have what's his face? Um, what room is this in their houston tight end?
Speaker 2:room uh dalton schultz, and they also have the guy they got out of ohio state too. Why am I forgetting his name now? That kind of sucks that I'm forgetting his name now. That sucks. But they already have some very good receiving tight ends. But I think Harrison Bryant will be a good guy to add to their room to kind of help with their blocking, especially if their offensive line is still going to be a little bit struggling based off what we saw from last year. And not to mention, I think they have so many receivers in their room already and they just drafted two receivers in this last year's draft coming out of Iowa State that I think they think like we have a surplus of guys right now and I think getting rid of Mechie, the guy that's been there for a while and kind of not really broken through even though he is a super fast receiver that if you kind of unlock what he is good at, I think he can make a team a very good explosive offense. I just think they have so many guys to kind of get the ball to that I think that made this move like a very easy one for them to make, especially with getting a guy that can help them out blocking wise.
Speaker 2:Um, next Steelers uh, they lose the first round pick. Derek Harmon. During the third preseason game the other night on Thursday, um, with a sprained knee Cause. When I saw it I saw a clip of it him crying, being carted off to the locker room so I was thinking it was the worst. He tore an ACL, torn Achilles. He's gone for the season.
Speaker 2:It'll be such a big thing and I was freaking out and I'm like man, we used the first round pick on this dude and we could have done this and that and the other and we're going to lose him, even though he's been looking very good in the preseason so far Kind of a monster getting after the passer from the defensive tackle position but it came out he's only be gone for a month. He will start the season on IR, but I think he will be back at some point this season. So that's very good news. Not going to be a long-term thing, but he will be gone for a bit. So that was one of those things where I just kind of got to sweat it out a little bit. I'm glad it's not as bad as it could have been. Daniel Jones beats out Anthony Richardson for the Colts QB1 job.
Speaker 2:Is it time for us to say we told you so on him, because we have been perplexed as to why he was a top five pick. Because, based off me being more of a college football guy, I saw him a lot more in college than you did, but I think even you at the time saw clips of him in college and you're like, oh, this dude couldn't hit the broad side of a goddamn barn, so why are they using a top five pick on him? And then you look at him, you see the height, you see the speed that he has when he's running on the football field and you're like, oh, cam Newton 2.0. If they can get his passing right. We understand why they picked him, but it hasn't gone well since he's been there, and he's been there for three years now. And they got Daniel Jones to come over to their team this offseason and I think everybody saw him and was like, oh, either they're trying to get up to a point. Because here's the thing.
Speaker 1:I think they're trying to force him to get better.
Speaker 2:You're right, either they're trying to force him to get better or they're like hey, daniel Jones, even though he's nothing to be super excited about, he's not going to be a guy to get you to playoff wins and all that. Daniel Jones, when he has guys to throw to, he can make the throws. He's all right. He'll look stupid at times, he'll make the very bad decision, but I think at the same time he will do enough to kind of keep you like good, enough to be respectable. And I think the fact that he has now beat out Richardson I think this Richardson may not get another shot in a Colts uniform to be that guy unless you know he gets.
Speaker 2:He gets hurt unless Daniel Jones gets hurt. But I just think this marks the end for it, man, and I just think that it'd be one thing if, like you, could say that the Colts haven't given him enough. But, like, they have a good team, they have a great offensive line, they have decent weapons. They don't have like a superstar weapon at wide receiver, but they have good guys at the wide receiver position.
Speaker 1:They should be good enough to be mediocre.
Speaker 2:They have a top 10 kind of running back at the running back position they have and their defense is pretty good. They have a good team. The quarterback is the one thing that they have. That's like the biggest weakness on their team. And I think Daniel Jones, even though he's not a superstar, he won't be the worst in the NFL. I think the way we ranked it he may be close to the worst, but he won't be the worst.
Speaker 2:So I just think with that, I think they'll be looking at just a little bit better quarterback play, because again, when Richardson played last year he had the worst completion percentage of recorded NFL history with how bad he was. Again he would every seventh or eighth pass he'll make the superstar 60-yard down the field throw. That makes you like, oh, that's why he was drafted. But the rest of those 10 passes he can't throw, he can't hit nothing. So I just think that again it's a good time we told you so. He's ass. Really, I really needed that drink. Next thing, now that the preseason's over for both of our teams, do you have for your team, do you have something that a good thing, a bad thing, something that you see from your team that will make you feel positive or negatively about your team going into the start of the year that's going to. I think two weeks is when the first game happens.
Speaker 2:Our defense is going to be worse. From what I've noticed about the Bengals, they're getting their asses ran on, so much.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:They are getting gashed.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I watched the Commanders do it this week. Was that this week?
Speaker 2:No, it was the Colts that they played today.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, commanders last week yeah, guess how many plays did Commanders get out of the field? How many Four. None of them passed in place.
Speaker 2:The first run was a 35-yard run Insane.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, it was bad Wild, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, that's crazy. Off then wild. Oh my god, that's crazy. Um, offensively, obviously your offense is going to be set, no matter what. You did get to see joe burrow play a little bit. He was putting his, risking his life for some reason on a preseason game, which was kind of perplexing.
Speaker 1:But I think that boy was, but he had but he had the starting offensive line though and it looked that bad, so it kind of makes me question Two of them weren't starters. The two guys on the right side weren't starters. They're trying to play Mims on the left side. Oh, that's why the defender got through that nigga's slow.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Orlando Brown went out so they switched Mims to the left side.
Speaker 2:I went back and watched it. Hold on, okay. I went back and watched it.
Speaker 1:Hold on, let me.
Speaker 2:All right, make it better, make it better. I went back and watched it, okay.
Speaker 1:You could tell that last play they had taken Mims and put him to the left side. Okay, and put two different guys on the right side. So the only guys that were the same were my left guard and center and they didn't let up the defensive tackles.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Both edge rushers and a linebacker got through.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Alright Fine. Now look, you can tell Mims stuffed the dude for a second by using his size. Mims didn't get off the line quick enough. He stuffed it and then he Swim moved in. And then the Bengals realized Fuck, he's no left tackle. Put his ass back to right tackle. That's why Orlando Brown's there.
Speaker 2:He's a little older, but he's no left tackle. Put his ass back to right tackle. That's why Orlando Brown's there. He's a little older, but he's there.
Speaker 1:He's good though he's good though no, he's still good. And Joe Burrow was like I'm going to extend the play. Jamar Chase and Teagan's aren't out here. I'm going to extend this bitch and I watched Nick run back on.
Speaker 2:He ran to the left, go down.
Speaker 1:Turned around to the right, I was like they're going to throw the ball away.
Speaker 2:Throw it away or go down. It's not worth it.
Speaker 1:Legit, he was just staring up. He turned to the right and went to turn back to the left. There was a defensive guy in there.
Speaker 2:He just kind of tucked and went. He was making a move like he was playing the Chiefs. He looked like he was playing the Super were playing Washington. Oh, this should go.
Speaker 1:If I'm him, Chuck Eppert-Cownfield is where it goes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, fuck it, throw a pick. What does it matter? Who cares Doesn't even go down as a stat.
Speaker 1:No, but I think in his brain I'm Joe Burrow. I have to be perfect.
Speaker 2:Right, and I think after every game he it started before the preseason. I'm done with the slow starts. Yeah Shit. That's why I'm playing in the preseason right now.
Speaker 1:Watching him play. Fuck. We're done with the slow starts.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Which makes me even more of hey, please pay for Anderson.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I have to see where this will really go Right and I don't want to watch every game Fucking. Oh god.
Speaker 2:Oh god.
Speaker 1:Can't make a mistake. Don't double pick, please, and I don't want to watch every game, fucking oh God, oh God, oh God Can't make a mistake.
Speaker 2:Don't double pick, please. We got to score 28 or we don't have a chance in this game. What do we do? We have to reach 31st or we'll lose. Even if we do, there's still a chance we lose.
Speaker 1:Exactly, I don't want to sit there like that all game. I don't want to play the Browns week one we should smoke the fuck out of them should yeah, but I don't want to have to go the same shit I did last year with the Broncos if I just watch the niggas throw that bitch up to Courtland Sutton and him jump over.
Speaker 2:It's embarrassing, it's embarrassing it is laughable Of Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1:This motherfucker was heated, going back out there. Yeah, you guys out there. It took him three plays Fucking touchdown. Walks off the field. Give the ball to me, right, you right.
Speaker 2:But you have to give the ball back to him at some point. But that's the thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that very next drive. It was the last drive of the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They were going to kick it and Joe Burrow walked his ass back out on the field.
Speaker 2:Fuck that. I want to end this yeah.
Speaker 1:And he slung that bitch first down Right, and another one, and another one, and then touchdown Game over.
Speaker 2:He did it all year, last year, all year.
Speaker 1:In that one game he threw five touchdowns. Yeah, he had one interception because Chase didn't run the right route and Patrick Sertain got his ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But again after that nothing. He did it too much.
Speaker 2:Last year he played as close to perfect ball as he possibly could and the defense was the downfall of that team. I don't think he can go for another year of doing that, and I think the way it's looked as of right now it's not going to be different and Trey Hendrickson needs to be back.
Speaker 2:But they keep fucking around. Or if you're going to trade him, you better get something back to help your defense out. You have to. I just don't think in your wildest dreams you can just trade Trey Hendrickson and just take a pick for next year's draft. Then what the fuck are we doing? You have to get something back for him. You have to A player. There's no way you can just ask for a draft pick In the secondary in the front, something to help out your defense.
Speaker 1:Imagine trading him for another one. Oh dude, I think I would actually stop being a bagel fan. I can't, If we go out there and I watch them niggas trade him. You know it's funny, I had, dude, you said that shit and my brain just kicked in. I would watch the Bengals commanders trade players, just to still not pay either of them. The commanders would trade for Trey Hendrickson pay him. We'd trade for Terry McLaren and still not pay him. We would just have.
Speaker 2:Oh, that'd be wild, that'd be so wild if that happened.
Speaker 1:If I have to live in a world where I'm watching Terry McLaren, jamar Chase and T Higgins on the same field and we're still losing football games. Yep, yep, what the fuck is my what is happening? Yeah, what the fuck is my what is happening? Yeah, we scored 75 points and lost by a field goal, yep, and went 9-8.
Speaker 2:What the fuck? What are we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 1:Because, like I can't, I can't If we were to have that overpowered offense and we're still losing games. There's so many options in the field to give the ball to.
Speaker 2:How are they defending this?
Speaker 1:They're not. We just can't defend what they're doing, right? Also, mcpherson needs to stop missing kicks. He fucked up like three games last year.
Speaker 2:These last two. This last season was a real struggle Last year apparently he was hurt.
Speaker 1:Right Okay, cool Nigga, real struggle. Apparently he was hurt. Right Okay, cool Niggas, stop playing.
Speaker 2:But going into this year, man, it's a short leash man Dude you fucked up three games.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you missed a kick three fucking times and we should have won three of those fucking games. Uh, we shouldn't have been playing the fucking Broncos Fuck dumbass. But you smoked a kick to the Ravens and I had to watch Justin Tucker's ass walk out and I was like, oh fuck, he's about to fucking smoke. It was from 52, so I was like he's about to fucking smoke this shit.
Speaker 2:And even he was having a terrible year and he still smoked it from 52. Yeah, this nigga.
Speaker 1:How did we lose To the fucking Ravens twice From fucking Justin Tucker? What the fuck? Sorry, this nigga. How did we lose to the fucking Ravens twice from fucking Justin Tucker? What the fuck.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I don't want to talk about the Bengals anymore. Okay, I get so frustrated. Season hasn't even started yet. Hasn't even started.
Speaker 1:I'm so frustrated and I can already see how some of these games are going to go. Mcpherson's going to miss a kick and then we're going to lose by three points. We lost by three points so many times last year and I have to watch Joe Burrow walk off the field. I just do four touchdowns and we just fucking lost. Yep, four touchdowns, 387 yards and we just lost. Yeah, I just watched probably a guy who, if he stays with the Bengals, would be the greatest receiver in Bengals history.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Win a triple crown and it amounts to nothing. Yep, watch Cooper Cup. Win a Triple Crown and go win a Super Bowl. Yep, what, what?
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:Yep, I can't I can't, I can't.
Speaker 2:I'll get to the Steelers before you freak out, totally freak out. Steelers offensively haven't seen much, obviously, aaron Rodgers hasn't played at all in the preseason. We've had a bunch of our backups going At wide receiver. If Roman Wilson could become the number two, at least be a little bit of a speed guy that other teams have to be scared of, it'll help out DK Metcalf that much more. We already have two great tight ends we're going to be playing with. So we're going to be doing a lot of two tight end sets. But we just need to have that number two wide receiver that can, like, make defense defense scared a little bit, um, just to help out DK Metcalf. So, and I think our offensive line they're going to be iffy, but I think they will be better than what they have have been in years past. We have the talent on that offensive line, just bringing it all together, um, and again I get from what I see closer and Rodgers hitting throws. But the real question is, is he gonna be able to get to get away from pressure when the pressure does come, which I'm not feeling very confident in that because obviously him being over 40 years old and still having coming off that Achilles. That was a couple years ago, but it's just in our running game too is. Can we get our running game to a decent spot where we can just be a balanced offense? That's something I have yet to see. Caleb Johnson has had a little bit of a couple sparks, but it makes me think like, oh, this is why we drafted him, but he's still only at, he's still averaging like less than three yards of carry. So it's not necessarily like he's not lighting the world on fire from day one. Again, it's something he's gonna have to get used to. He'll be getting better, but I'm just not seeing it right away, kind of making me nervous just a tad bit.
Speaker 2:Defensively, in years past one of our biggest weaknesses was we couldn't stop the run to save our goddamn lives. Even though our secondary isn't always great, we don't necessarily can't really go man on man against a lot of teams, especially some of the best teams in the division. In the division in the AFC with Kansas City, with the Bengals, with the Ravens, but one of our biggest weaknesses in the playoffs over in the AFC with Kansas City, with the Bengals, with the Ravens, but one of our biggest weaknesses in the playoffs over the last few years is that we have just been getting gashed against teams where they're running the football on us. But I can say with confidence, obviously this is with oh hold on, I'm forgetting his name now. Oh no, derek Harmon with Derek Harmon. Oh, hold on, my my thing, I'm forgetting his name now. Oh no, um, derrick harman with derrick harman.
Speaker 2:Our running defense has been very stout. It's going to be very hard when we are at full strength for any team to be able to run the football against us, which will make things a lot easier. And I think in our secondary, even though a lot of the bank guys haven't played, I am seeing where we have some talent to kind of feel a little bit more confidence there. Again, I'm not saying we're going to lock down everybody and be the best defense in the NFL, but I think we have enough, along with what we know we have at defensive end, to get after the passer, I think we will have a much better defense in general, especially being able to get after the passer and stuff the run, and I think with that, defensively, I feel a lot more confident than I do offense, but again, I think the offense just comes down to what the team looks like when Aaron Rodgers is on the field, and we will not see that until week one rolls around. So that is going to be the biggest question that I have coming. It's more offensive when it comes to the Steelers football coming into the regular season.
Speaker 2:So next thing, let's see here Final position rankings for the season, because I think we did everything before the season started except for our cornerbacks. We were supposed to do the corners and running backs last time, but Jason didn't necessarily have his list ready yet and we had our running backs. So Jason's like, hey, let's just do running backs this time, but jayce didn't necessarily have his list ready yet and we had our running back. So jace is like, hey, let's do running back this time and then do corners on the next one. But it's been a couple weeks now. So let's go ahead and get our cornerback rankings out there to kind of finish this out, and then we'll get to our last thing I want to talk about before we uh get out of here. So you want to get your top 10 for corners first? You want me to go?
Speaker 1:Good.
Speaker 2:All right, I will, I guess, start at 10 and go to one Devon Witherspoon at 10. Christian Gonzalez at nine, dj Rita eight, sauce Gardner at seven, jalen Johnson at six and you go ahead and do your 10 to, and then we'll do it.
Speaker 1:that way, I have Devon Witherspoon at 10, saul Skardner at 9, dj Reed at 7, j Alexander at 8, j Alexander at 7, and AJ Terrell at 6.
Speaker 2:Okay For me. I got from 5 to 1, I got AJ aj trail at five, I have trent mcduffie at four, I have denzel ward at three, I have derrick stingley at two and I have pat certaine at one okay, I have christian gonzalez at five, trent mcduffie at four, okay, denzel ward at three, derrick senior at two and Patrick Sertain at one.
Speaker 2:I was one. I think one of my hardest things was deciding who I wanted at two between Stingley and Ward. I think Ward is more of a lockdown, like you're not getting any passes past me.
Speaker 1:You're one on one.
Speaker 2:I think Stingley is such a ball hawk. I think I prioritize that a little bit more because I'm just like he can get the ball and take it to the house at any point. I agree, which is why Devon Witherspoon's a 10. That's why I have Devon Witherspoon and he's a very. Devon Witherspoon's a very good tackler, which is why I had him a 10.
Speaker 1:He's a great run.
Speaker 2:He's great against the run. He may not. But he's still really good at coverage he's still very good, though, but yeah, I think the hardest one for me was Derek Stingley and Ward deciding who's going to be 2-3.
Speaker 1:You didn't have Christian.
Speaker 2:Gonzalez, I had him at 9.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I think Christian Gonzalez. He's coming off of year one obviously.
Speaker 1:Being hurt.
Speaker 2:And being hurt. So I'm like maybe he has a little bit more to prove.
Speaker 1:I agree, but his year two did go up.
Speaker 2:But when he's healthy and ready to go.
Speaker 1:he is so sticky, he is so hard to get away from In a way that, like I don't think he's always going to have the highest stats in the world.
Speaker 2:No, Because people aren't going to pass him, they're not going to throw his way.
Speaker 1:He's very similar to Denzel Ward. Yeah, there's no ball. I can't get bat down Because Denzel Ward doesn't get a whole lot of interceptions either.
Speaker 2:No, but he erases the side of the field.
Speaker 1:There's nothing you can do over here, right yeah?
Speaker 2:But the offense the other side. You're not doing anything over here. This is mine, which is why where did you have?
Speaker 1:you had Denzel Ward at three? Uh-huh, yeah, that's okay. That's fine. Sorry, I was looking at Denzel Ward and Christian Gonzalez. The stacks are actually very, very similar.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:They both had two interceptions, but they both had not a whole bunch of touchdowns, but their defensive ratings are super high. I think they are like one in two for defensive ratings, so I value what they do on the field. Denzel Ward does shut down on one side of the field. Oh yeah, and so does Christian Gonzalez. Yep, I had Denzel Ward at three. I just think Derrick Sting Jr was so good.
Speaker 2:He's such a ball hawk dude. It's just so like he has a nose for the football.
Speaker 1:And he's going to catch it every time. Yes, in a way that he's very akin to, his name is now gone.
Speaker 2:What Is it? Somebody that's still in the league now? Or just a past guy? Past guy, oh Dion. Yeah Knows the football Can just get. He just knows when to go get after it. I know where the ball's at, yeah.
Speaker 1:In a way that he will leave his guy from the other side of the field. The ball's not going to him. Yeah, I'm going to catch it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to catch it too, and I'm going to take it back. Yeah, yeah, he has some really like very wide receiver skills.
Speaker 1:The athleticism he could have easily been a wide receiver, but he just chose to be a TV the athleticism Patrick Sertain is. He's just a physical freak. I'm taking it from you. I watched him. Somebody catch the ball, didn't fucking take it out there. Was it the Eagles that he did too? It might have been. No, I think it was a different team, because it was too. He did Brown. They're the guy.
Speaker 2:Oh, that would have been, oh no, no. The other guy oh, that would have been, oh no.
Speaker 1:No, don't do this. Yeah, yes, it's Deshaun.
Speaker 2:Nope, not Deshaun, it's Eagles. I feel so bad for getting their names. It's Devonta Smith there it is Devonta Smith.
Speaker 1:The ball was taken from him and he ended up taking the same guy. I don't think that was Patrick Sartain, because there's no way Devonta Smith took some shit from him.
Speaker 2:No, not possible Patrick Sartain. He was number one. Obviously he won Defensive Player of the Year last year. He's a physical freak. I think he's the best combination of being big enough to go against any receiver possible but also having the athleticism to pretty much go against the number one receiver, no matter who they are. But I just think he does lack a little bit of the top end speed. But again he has such length that it doesn't matter. But with the season he had last year he had to be number one.
Speaker 1:He had to be. He was so good he's such a freak.
Speaker 2:Physically he's insane. So yeah, he deserved number one spot hands down, no issue. The issue came between two and three. Sauce Gardner I wanted to have him higher but you kind of talked me off.
Speaker 1:Patrick Sartain reminded me a lot of Darryl Revis. Yeah, darryl Revis was, I think, six foot, like 200 pounds. Yeah, patrick Sartain's, I think six foot.
Speaker 2:He's like 6'2", 6'3", he's taller.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they weigh similar sizes. Darrow Rivas was really fast, though, if I recall. I recall him being very, very fast, yeah, and that's why he was so good.
Speaker 2:At the point, not necessarily like track speed.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I remember him being like, but when he knew, but he, when he knew the ball, where the ball was going, he was a very quick reaction time. He's gonna get to the ball and he's gonna take it back take it away. I feel like I remember him being like four too fast. I don't think he was that fast, uh, but again, at the end of the day, if you know what the receiver is doing so much and you're so prepared, um into, you're going into a game. I don't think it matters.
Speaker 1:Darrell Revis. Was that fast? Oh okay, I guess based off his 40 yard dash time what do you have?
Speaker 2:4-3-2?
Speaker 1:4-3 ain't bad, it's not no 4-2-8 or something like that, but still 4-3 so 4-3 is still very fast, especially when all you gotta do is pat the ball down yeah, for sure, to make sure he don't catch it Right. Especially at his size, that's pretty good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no question, but yeah, top 10. That's our last top 10 that we added All the same guys. Yeah, all the same guys. Again, it's just like corners can change so much.
Speaker 1:I don't think there's ever been a time where there's been a number one corner twice yeah.
Speaker 2:At least not a clean cut.
Speaker 1:Yeah, at least not a clean cut. Yeah, I think, the length of a top 10 corner is very short.
Speaker 2:Can be. Yeah, for sure, because it changes so fast and the translation of guys getting drafted and being as good as they need to be very quickly in their NFL career is like it's not that long.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the guys rise and fall so fast. I don't think here's a point in time where Josh Norman was number one corner of the NFL.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like a year and a half. It was like he looked like unstoppable when he was on the Panthers.
Speaker 1:He was just that guy. And then his flash had been gone.
Speaker 2:He wanted to get paid and then got traded to I think San Fran, was it, san. I think I got traded to like the Bills or something like the Bills or something.
Speaker 1:I thought it was the Bills. No, he did play. I do remember his ass getting stiff-armed by Derek.
Speaker 2:It's like it just happened so fast. Even well, I'm afraid he's in now For the Steelers now, oh no, I suck.
Speaker 1:Do that.
Speaker 2:Ramsey Ramsey. I think he's probably the last one that had multiple years of really being that dude, because I think he was just so special physically but they weren't consecutive. No, I think it was like two or three years where he was that dude.
Speaker 1:Again, but not consecutive. I don't think they were consecutive. Like there was two years where he was on Jacksonville, where he was that guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and then fell off for a year and then came back On the.
Speaker 1:Rams, and he was that guy. Yeah, but I don't think it was ever consecutive.
Speaker 2:Okay, it just happens so much, and I think it does give some credence to the idea that the corners may be the best athletes on the field.
Speaker 1:That fade very fast. They fade so quickly.
Speaker 2:Because they have to always be constantly reacting to a wide receiver that knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1:I think their job is so hard and I feel like in a lot of instances, confidence is key. But I think being a corner is a confidence position. Yep, Because you have to rely on your skills but you have to be so reactive to other people that if you don't feel confident enough in it, it's hard. Yep, because you're not really using all the physical stuff, isn't really what you use all the time other than your speed, obviously yeah, so it's. I feel like it's a lot of a confidence position oh, yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:As soon as you lose it, like it's very hard to get back yeah, for sure because it's now everybody knows you're not confident, so they're talking shit because again, it's just like you're never, there's never a guy that's going to do it 100 of the time.
Speaker 2:It's just when those like that 10, 15, 20 that they get something on you. It can't just be the big play that's going big for the touchdown and that's like that's where the the best guys that are out there can minimize the biggest impact plays from happening and just make it small. Because wide receivers are so good, they are so good they're going to get there, they're so good, they know what they're doing and offenses are so creative that it's very hard just to say, hey, I'm just going to lock down this side of the field and nothing's going to happen. It's minimizing the damage. Is what corners?
Speaker 1:are. That's their best. Biggest task is, in a way. I do remember there were reviews for like two years.
Speaker 2:It was longer than that dude.
Speaker 1:He had a long, it was probably like five or six, yeah but I just remember the year, because it was Ocho Cinco, that he did it to where it was, on a Marshall, marshall Falk. No, what the fuck are we talking about? St Louis running back from 1984?
Speaker 2:I don't know. That's the first thing I thought of.
Speaker 1:No, the receiver.
Speaker 2:For who?
Speaker 1:The Bears. Oh, brandon Marshall. Yes, brandon Marshall on his podcast. Yeah, he was like Darryl Reeves locked you down? No, he didn't. They looked at the stat. Darryl Reeves locked you down? No, he didn't. They looked up a stat. What's the second one at 23 yards? Yeah, darrell.
Speaker 2:Reeves, locked your ass down. That Marshall Falken's winning. It's hilarious.
Speaker 1:Why the fuck, would you say, marshall Falken.
Speaker 2:I don't know how. That's the first thing that came to my mind. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Why'd you pick up the nigga that this nigga don't know how to podcast? I don't think Marshall Falk's alive. He's alive, okay.
Speaker 2:Marshall Falk is alive. He is for sure alive. I think he works for the NFL Network or something like that. He definitely is still alive. No questions asked about that, but it was a random name to bring up when we're talking, when we're podcast, about everything else, um, I don't know, coach zack colorado.
Speaker 1:Oh, there you go, he's the running back coach colorado that makes total sense.
Speaker 2:Makes total sense. Okay, funny enough. That's hilarious um all right, so even fucking like close out of nowhere. I can totally agree. It was definitely out of the blue that I brought that up, for sure was Bernard Mars, one good yeah, he was great with the Bears.
Speaker 2:I think he played with Miami for a little bit, but he was very good. He didn't necessarily have the most explosive career because he played with a lot of iffy quarterbacks. I think the best one he played with was Jay Cutler. Jay Cutler's not really known. He's probably known as the quarterback with some of the most talent that did barely anything with it.
Speaker 1:He was known to have one of the greatest arms to ever come out, but he didn't care.
Speaker 2:He didn't really care enough. He didn't really do everything he had to to ever come out, but he didn't care. He didn't really care enough. He didn't really do everything he had to. It was just one of those things. But you know, brandon Marshall was a very good receiver, though he was more of like a just a bigger body Like you're not. He's going to catch it around you. Kind of like Michael Thomas in a kind of way, but he, I think had a little his heyday.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that type of receiver, I don't remember him at all. Again, he was on the bears. So yeah, speaking of sanders, I um he, they did play to play a preseason game today. They let him play but he was not looking all that great. I think he played, only he only threw the ball like under like 10 times and they said he was, he was healthy enough, but did not let him come out and try to play in like the final two minutes of the game. They've already announced that, oh boy, joe Flucco will be the quarterback starting the season.
Speaker 2:But the only question is everybody's looking for Sanders to be the number two, and I don't think the Browns are going to let him do that.
Speaker 1:They're not going to do it. We've already discussed that. He is the second best guy In that room.
Speaker 2:he probably is, but I think that room is shit.
Speaker 1:That room is shit.
Speaker 2:So I'm like, yes, there is things that he can do in the NFL, that he can play some good football and do what you want and do some things to have you play some good football at good times. But I also think he has some very bad habits that he does not have the athleticism to get himself out of. He thinks he's Caleb Williams habits that he does not have the athleticism to get himself out of. He thinks he's Caleb Williams, even like just as much. But even even Caleb Williams still has supreme athleticism in a way that Sanders does not have at all. And they kind of had the same issue.
Speaker 2:And if Caleb Williams is out there getting humbled this past year, I think Caleb um Sador Sanders is going to be doing the exact same thing, which is why I think he'll probably start the season as the third quarterback in that room.
Speaker 2:Because even if he does have some promise, I think they want to humble him so much that I think that they will try to keep him away from the field as much as they possibly can until he gets too bad, and the Bengals, being a bad organization, will go back on what they want to do and they'll just go ahead and throw him out there anyway, and then you know, if he's a superstar it'll be great, but if not it'll go to shit and everything will still be bad. But again, it's the Browns. So do we actually care? Probably not. All right, this is so this. We've kind of talked about everything we want to talk about sports wise. I have this. One last thing I wanted to talk about before we go and I let jace talk about the, about the script beforehand. I let him read it, but he asked what I was talking about and I'm like you know what I want to.
Speaker 1:I want to be a surprise. I didn't care okay.
Speaker 2:So I thought of this and I didn't think of this. I was watching something that made me that maybe had that thought. The fuck do you be watching youtube, just a lot of youtube, man, a lot of youtube. Um. So my question is yeah, there is a number okay if, because if you're listening to this podcast this long, you get to have a treat. But I didn't want to talk about the start, the start the pod yeah is there a number?
Speaker 2:if there is some big black dude that comes to you and says I have such and such amount of cash to let me pee on you, what's the number? Number there is a, if there is the blank check, is he hydrated? Huh?
Speaker 1:is he hydrated? Huh, is he hydrated? You have?
Speaker 2:no guarantees about that, I don't want him to be acidic. The only thing that you know is that he is. When I asked Brill in this question, our younger brother.
Speaker 1:What was his number?
Speaker 2:His number for P. He said like 10K.
Speaker 1:So I'll be on him right now. 10k, that's low.
Speaker 2:I was thinking like 75, 50, just for somebody to pee on you. I'm saying okay, but here's the thing no face, oh no face. You'll never see this man again no it's a guarantee that this is a big, hulking black man. When I told Braylon this is like the dude from the meme with the dude on the side of the bed meme, that kind of black dude, because if it's from a woman you can kind of make it better in your brain. So no woman, it's a big hulking black dude Like 25.
Speaker 1:Huh, like 25K.
Speaker 2:I told, told Braylon, I would probably do it for 10k, no question, but if it's my face, then we got to bump it up to like 25.
Speaker 1:If it's my face, then that's a totally different thing. 10. Yeah, I can do 10.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:For just pee. Okay, 3.5 million, 3.5.
Speaker 2:Now if that same hulking black man came to you and said hey, I want a shit on your chest. What's the number? No guarantee, no guarantee on that. You just know it'll be on your chest. You'll never see this man again and nobody will ever know.
Speaker 1:Nope.
Speaker 2:You're telling me, if this man comes to you with $50,000 in a briefcase, you will say no to get shit on your chest. Yes, I will have my shirt off and ready to go ride a 50K. It needs to be solid bro.
Speaker 1:If I can be guaranteed he's going to take one solid log.
Speaker 2:I'm straight, I can get in the shower right after. No, you wouldn't take 50K.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Tax-free, no, tax-free, no, 50k, nope, I would do it.
Speaker 1:No questions, I would do it. No questions, I would do it. And it's funny, I'd murder a man for $1,000. $50k? No, dang it. Nobody will ever know Real quick, nobody knows We've had a lot of conversations about what I would do for money. Yeah, I don't have morals when it comes to murdering a person in cold blood, but I have morals when it comes to being shit on. Oh, if I was given a button, bam.
Speaker 2:But if it was guaranteed to be solid, you'd probably say yes.
Speaker 1:Like 75,. Yeah, I need to guarantee this is solid 50K. If I'm over here and this nigga going this nigga's beatboxing the moment he does the squat and it just goes, I'm getting up. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. You be hot Cheetos, you be in Takis. No, I didn't know what his meal resume was before this.
Speaker 2:You're asking for too much, no, so what's the number for being on your face? There's no number. There is no number. No number, there's no number.
Speaker 1:There is no number.
Speaker 2:I said if I came down to it, it like if somebody wanted to give me a hundred thousand dollars, I'd probably do it 100k. You could take a shower, bro.
Speaker 1:Nobody will ever know I will never look at you the same again.
Speaker 2:You would never know. I would live with that. I would live with that.
Speaker 1:The the words you have just told me will forever change my perspective on how I see you what did our? Younger brother say huh, he didn't give a number, did he?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, he had a number what was it?
Speaker 2:on his face. He said, as long as it's solid, he'll take. He'll take the money. Dude, solidity it matters, it matters. But he but he was more iffy on it, but he'd probably still take it. He's like money can really change some things. So he's like, yeah, you would. And I also asked our stepfather this and he was like real iffy on I'm like dude, if somebody really gave cat in cash, no taxes, so you'd let a man pee on you, there was no question I'd let somebody pee on me.
Speaker 2:I can swing that I could take the golden shower I could as well, I I oh, imagine if it was guaranteed asparagus, though they had asparagus for you. Nope, you would do it. You would do it, you would hate yourself.
Speaker 1:No, you don't eat asparagus. I eat asparagus. It smells horrendous, no, horrendous. There's nothing that could ever that smell it would be. You don't eat asparagus, so you've never smelled it. That smell is etched into my brain Because I really fucking like asparagus. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Let me eat some asparagus and pee in a cup and you smell it.
Speaker 2:You will know.
Speaker 1:There is hell on earth. No, I couldn't Alright. No, it is horrendous, okay.
Speaker 2:So, all in all, there is a number for pee, yeah, and there is a number for poop, no. Oh, no, number for poop. I do not, unless it's solid, yeah, okay, I have a number for all Again, as long as it's a thing that you'll never see the person again, you wouldn't let somebody shit on you, but you couldn't kill somebody by the press of a button random.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I couldn't do that. Eight billion niggas, I couldn't do it. Millionaire Couldn't do it. I couldn't do it, I couldn't do it, I really couldn't. I couldn't kill a man. No, that's not me.
Speaker 1:I could kill several.
Speaker 2:If they start adding millions, it'd really make me question everything, and I'm like man, Million dollars for every time you press the button.
Speaker 1:I couldn't do it. I don't think I could do it.
Speaker 2:Sitting here right now. I don't think I could do it. Knowing that somebody died because of me, you put For anybody. Does he hear that? Jason girlfriend, be down, she's pressing button multiple times over.
Speaker 1:You press the button million dollars. Takes a year of your life. I.
Speaker 2:Can do that. Yeah, what the fuck I could do that?
Speaker 1:Huh, very good. You gotta press as many times as you would like to right there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it takes a year off your life for every time you press it. Yeah, I could do it.
Speaker 1:You get the option now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I could do it, Because, again, you don't know when that time is anyway. So what does it matter knowing it's a couple years less?
Speaker 1:What if you only had a year? Then what Then? Then, what then what? Hey, but you couldn't kill a random 8 billion people.
Speaker 2:You will never know who it is. No, I couldn't it would haunt me it really would. I just know for a fact, it would haunt me.
Speaker 1:I would feel that's crazy that's some crazy shit right there. That's real.
Speaker 2:You want me to be like Mr Krabs and just sleep on the money and just make it. I sleep on it.
Speaker 1:It's not my problem. I have a brand new mattress Every night. Whatever makes me sleep I could pay for the sleep medication?
Speaker 2:Who cares? But again, if I could choose the person and like For sure guarantee it's a bad person, then I would do it. No question, I'd press that bitch 15 times. I could not press it randomly.
Speaker 1:Before I would start to question, that's somebody's mama, that's somebody's daddy, some brother or sister. Okay, now I have a better question. How many times do you press the button before you start to question? Is it like? What am I doing?
Speaker 2:Or.
Speaker 1:I feel like most people get there and just go start spamming that bitch.
Speaker 2:And they have to live with them. On the back end, I killed a train's worth of people.
Speaker 1:Just because I wanted to Dude, like in my head, I could guarantee probably press it once I'd feel nothing.
Speaker 2:But the more you press, the more it'll eat at you.
Speaker 1:I'd be more hesitant to press after the first time.
Speaker 2:I'm rich.
Speaker 1:I'm a millionaire, my problems are solved. I have no problems for a while. Life is pretty smooth sailing.
Speaker 2:If you handle it right, you can.
Speaker 1:I can go to college I can figure out what the fuck I want to do with life right now I can buy a building.
Speaker 1:I can buy a house, house. I can do a couple things. I can move money around so I can keep myself rich. Now, without truly thinking about it, I'd probably hit it five times quickly. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. I'm straight Right. You could probably hit the button about five times confidently Before. Then it's like ugh, Bam. This is coming from the person that wouldn't let me punch her in the face for a billion dollars, Like what the fuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you'd have to eat that.
Speaker 1:You'd have to eat that, would you? Let me punch you in the face for a billion. I'm decking your shit. Yeah, whoever would be telling me this wouldn't even be able to finish the words for you to say you would never know what happened, no question yeah, a billion dollars. Just let me hit you obviously you guys live together.
Speaker 2:Why would he keep the money from you?
Speaker 1:yeah, we can split it, I'll buy you a lot of nice stuff let I manage it, but we can split it imagine how many candles she'd buy with that much money just disposable real quick. That's so much money. Fuck splitting it. What's the point? Well, there'd be no point to split it yeah, that's a.
Speaker 2:You said a billion. Huh, you said a billion, a billion. What's?
Speaker 1:the point of splitting it. Who cares a?
Speaker 2:million you'd do it for if you'd hit her for a million.
Speaker 1:You'd hit it for a million. I'd swing on you for 10K, I'd swing on my own mama for 10K, but I would not be shit on for 75. I could not. I don't know how you can't get there for that, but genuinely I would clean my own mother's fucking clock for 10K.
Speaker 2:But you wouldn't get shit on. I don't understand. That wouldn't even pay off like my car, because if you're shit on, there's nothing to be lost.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, it's like that's my kid. No, we're talking a big brolic black nigga shitting on your chest.
Speaker 2:That's the scenario. I would do it Real quick. Nobody would know but you, and you're guaranteed to never see this man again. No, I would do it. But if somebody was to come up to you In a heartbeat.
Speaker 1:But like right now, here's $10,000. I would fucking run to mom's house, beat the shit out of her. No question, dad.
Speaker 2:But here's the thing I think you tell her and she'll be like Alright, just buy me something when you're done.
Speaker 1:I want this when you're done yes, guaranteed Real quick. But if somebody was to ask A million dollars, I'd punch you in the face.
Speaker 2:Come on.
Speaker 1:Of course we'd share it.
Speaker 2:Okay, there you go.
Speaker 1:You have no option. I'd be whipping your ass before he's done. I'd want you to.
Speaker 2:Fuck you what you made. Y'all money. Y'all made that decision together. Y'all made that decision together.
Speaker 1:That decision was made as soon as he finished talking. But I'm saying I would be looking at this too, like do I need her consent or can I swing?
Speaker 2:But here's the thing she gave her consent so she can't be on the back and like I want an apology, she said, okay, you can't do that.
Speaker 1:Like three years ago, you weren't okay with this. You said no, for how much? I was going to hit you once Full strength. Again, the question was for a billion Full?
Speaker 2:strength what I punch your face. But a billion is too much money. But a billion is like you can just live the rest of your life that I don't do anything. But again there's a lower money, which is why we said 10k is like you're still swinging, 10k you.
Speaker 1:You already said 10k, you're fine already said 10k, you're fine, I'm not gonna get with you I have morals in the wrong spots, but you wouldn't get shit on for 75.
Speaker 2:I don't understand.
Speaker 1:But that's the part. That's the part.
Speaker 2:Swing on my girlfriend of five years for 10 again, you'd be okay with it as long as you know it's solid. But you would. But if it's liquid it's over it's solid, but if it's liquid it's over. What are you talking?
Speaker 1:about. If it was liquid, it's worse, right.
Speaker 2:No, it's not. Fuck you dude Again. You don't know, You'll never see this again. You can guarantee it's solid, it's different. We're not even doing a sports podcast, I know, but I think it was a fun conversation that I knew I wanted to do at the end of this. Bro, it just says ask about pee-pee-poo-poo at the bottom of the page Again, just in case, because again you've sneaked peeks at what I wrote 100%.
Speaker 1:She has stayed here for that. She didn't give a fuck about sports. She has stayed here to hear this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I know Everything. Is that the only thing that popped?
Speaker 1:up, was that.
Speaker 2:Exactly she.
Speaker 1:We've been podcasting probably an hour and a half, and she stayed for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Again, I but it was a fun question, right, it's a fun question Intriguing.
Speaker 1:We have different morals.
Speaker 2:I'd kill somebody I don't want to hurt somebody, but I'm willing just to get shit on. Nobody has ever heard of no. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:I'd take the money. Yes, I would. I'd do it with they're like I give you a million dollars, you gotta kill somebody I think if I had to put whose morals are better, it's me fuck you, I don't care, I'm rich, I'm rich. Your morals are probably better. Yeah, maybe just a little bit, but you are of the minority, you are you are, oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:There's plenty of people that'd be willing to kill somebody. If they don't know who the person is, they're more than happy to do that again, five times again.
Speaker 1:I'm not rich.
Speaker 2:Rich if somebody if somebody came to me and said 100 million, I think I would probably give in. Especially, give me more than a minute. I'd probably think about it too much.
Speaker 2:Be like, okay, I have to the lowest I can go from I could help so many people in my life and not in my life by doing it. Yes, help. Yes, if I get 100 million, I can give 5 million for some kids to be able to eat. I wouldn't be able to go on a Mr Beast type of thing where I'm giving every kid in the world water, but I would be able to help. It would take $100 million.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for me personally it's how low could you go for me to still press the button? What's the lowest you could press that button to kill somebody, number-wise.
Speaker 2:Selling your morality.
Speaker 1:You're selling it.
Speaker 2:It's pretty low. If it's less than a million, I'm losing respect for people right now.
Speaker 1:If it's $100,000, you press it and somebody dies, yeah.
Speaker 2:No less than $100,000.
Speaker 1:So $100,000 is the minimum $100,000 ain't changing Again.
Speaker 2:you could do a lot with $100,000, but you're ending somebody else's life. I at least want the thing to be able to say I'm changing mine Real quick.
Speaker 1:8 billion people. I only care about like 10 niggas in this world.
Speaker 2:But imagine you press the button. It's one of your 10 niggas, then fuck I gotta keep rolling the dice.
Speaker 1:Now the odds are lower you know what's the odds?
Speaker 2:it's two of my people's exactly. I can't I can't I couldn't do it, I just couldn't do it, I couldn't. Oh see, now I want to ask other people now see you're like the third person I've asked now.
Speaker 1:Because, like our younger brother, he has better morals than me, he probably couldn't go lower than a million.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But, our sister. She would do that shit for 5K. Oh shit, 5K she's pressing that exist. She'd spam it like she's playing Call of Duty.
Speaker 1:It doesn't fucking matter how much it is. Any amount of money is good to her.
Speaker 2:Make it a trigger so she can do it faster. Dude, make this shit a pen.
Speaker 1:No question, the lowest high I can go.
Speaker 2:To kill somebody or get shit on To kill somebody.
Speaker 1:With a button press.
Speaker 2:We've evolved to the button press.
Speaker 1:I can do it. That's enough for me to pay my bills and buy a new car.
Speaker 2:I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1:I couldn't Again I pressed that bitch four times $200,000?.
Speaker 2:Again. Getting shit on is a lot easier than this.
Speaker 1:A button. What's this A?
Speaker 2:lot easier than a button.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't even have to wait on it.
Speaker 2:Dead yeah.
Speaker 1:I know I couldn't do it. Legit, I shit you not. Pressing a button is as easy as Dead. 50k, 50k, 50k.
Speaker 2:He's not going to pray before doing it. 50k.
Speaker 1:Shit's still coming out on you. She's still trying to get it out.
Speaker 2:50k If you say a prayer before pressing a button to kill somebody for money, then you're just doing it for your own self. You're not praying for nobody Better you than me. It's to make yourself feel better.
Speaker 1:Real quick, but I would not fault somebody else for pressing the button. I would not fault you for pressing that button. 50k ain't something to slouch at. That's your salary for a lot of people in the world. The average US salary is, I think, think like 40. You're talking I'm making more than the average person is in the US.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you're ending somebody's whole existence. Yeah, no, not me.
Speaker 1:He's still trying to push the shit out on you and I've made $200,000.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm making $75,000.
Speaker 1:You gotta watch his booty hole expand.
Speaker 2:I don't care, he is above you.
Speaker 1:I don't care about that Booty hole expanding on you or his face? Yes, please.
Speaker 2:No, I said 100. I said 100 for all my face, dude, 100 on my face, without knowing what's coming out. Without knowing what's coming out, it's 100.
Speaker 1:$50,000.
Speaker 2:Click of this pen, just give me some goggles to make sure I don't get pink.
Speaker 1:I know, yeah, that's, I'll take the risk. No, I hundred thousand right there. Yeah, two people I have never met will never meet her Gone.
Speaker 2:Hopefully For more Hopefully.
Speaker 1:Two more, two more, two more, two more, two more, two more. How many was that? I don't know. I'm rich, though, again, legit. All I have to do, I am struggling. I need it 50k. If I was to get a genie out of which wish for a pen like this, you'd ask for the death note.
Speaker 1:It's give you money you press it, it gives you a million dollars in your bank account. Bam, I just needed some, but I'm lying. I know I'm lying, which is why I have to say this. I'd have to set this bitch at like 10k. I gotta make make it work. I gotta be struggling, but I'm lying, it's a pen that gives money.
Speaker 1:It's a pen that gives money You'd have to lock it behind four layers of security. I would have to lock the fuck in. If I'm gonna press this bitch, I'm talking like it could be $1,000. I want this fucking PC set up, bro. Let me hit that shit real quick. Real quick, like come on, you know, like the idea that there's a pen around me that just.
Speaker 2:I click it and it gives me money, no matter what the bet, whatever what the price is.
Speaker 1:Life is a bitch and people spend the whole time working to stay alive and I just got to click this pen and one of y'all get to be set free.
Speaker 2:You turn yourself to a superhero by doing it, okay.
Speaker 1:Exactly, I'm over here like Yagami bro. I'll be sitting there clicking. I'm sorry, my nigga, Aw damn.
Speaker 2:I can't, bro, I can't, I can't. This is where I'm at. I can't, I can't.
Speaker 1:This is where I'm at.
Speaker 2:I don't think I would judge anybody for making that choice because, again, the money is way too. Once it gets to 5K, I'm like, ah, come on, what are we doing here? Once we start getting past 100, I'm like I would feel like, oh, I wish you wouldn't feel that way. But I understand like people's lives are so hard out here.
Speaker 1:Dude, if I was going to pay, I get it, but I couldn't do it $100,000.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I could, I just can't, I just can't do it. I can't, I just can't.
Speaker 1:Joe, your morals are.
Speaker 2:Too strong for my own good, far better than mine Too strong for their own good.
Speaker 1:I know it is far better than mine.
Speaker 2:Too strong for their own good.
Speaker 1:I know it is far better than most Because, in all honesty, no, we have been too poor in our lives, we've been too broke in our lives. You have morals like that.
Speaker 2:Fuck that, yeah, I know. Oh, fuck that Again. I understand. I understand why you're saying that Dude a million dollars.
Speaker 1:A million dollars. I'd press that button so many times I would go pay for Anderson.
Speaker 2:Like that's the type of shit I'm on. You'd be a donor to the Bengals. Name it after me for a year, so I can give you this money.
Speaker 1:I would figure out what the number was, so I'd press it enough to buy the Bengals. Like I gotta do what I gotta do.
Speaker 2:You are.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know now when you say I gotta do it myself, I can't go lower than that yeah, if you gotta, but then I get to pick the person.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's when it becomes okay like I said, if I get to pick it changes it a little bit for me, because I can just guarantee I'm picking a terrible person. That's again, it's way too easy, I know, which is why it's the random person. That's where I'm like I can't, I don't know.
Speaker 2:The thought of ending somebody's existence. Maybe a little bit too much, it's OK. It's fine. All right, let's go ahead before we go to too much longer. We've I think it's but a very fun discussion and this has been a good one.
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