JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
NFL Week 1 Predictions and Arch's Struggles Highlight Eventful Week 1 in CFB
Football season is back, and we're diving straight into the action with reactions to college football's opening weekend and a complete preview of NFL Week 1 matchups.
The Ohio State-Texas showdown delivered a defensive masterclass as the Buckeyes held Arch Manning and the Longhorns to just 7 points in a 14-7 victory. While many are quick to criticize Manning's performance, we explore how Ohio State's NFL-caliber defense deserves more credit for making life difficult for the young quarterback. Julian Sayin's composed first start at quarterback for Ohio State suggests the Buckeyes will be contenders again this season.
Alabama's shocking 31-17 loss to Florida State raises serious questions about the program's future under new head coach Kalen DeBoer. Without Nick Saban's steady hand, the Crimson Tide looked disorganized and outmatched – a stark contrast to their dominant past. We discuss whether this is just early-season stumbles or a sign of a new reality for a fan base accustomed to nothing but championship contention.
Our NFL Week 1 preview breaks down every matchup with predictions and key factors that could determine each outcome. From the Eagles-Cowboys Thursday night opener to rookie quarterbacks making their debuts, we analyze the strengths, weaknesses, and storylines to watch. Special attention goes to teams undergoing significant changes, like the Cowboys without Micah Parsons and Chicago's new era with Caleb Williams under coach Ben Johnson.
We also tackle the Travis Hunter phenomenon – can he truly excel as both a cornerback and wide receiver at the NFL level? While his athletic gifts are undeniable, history suggests two-way players eventually must specialize to maximize their potential and earning power.
Whether you're a college football diehard, NFL fanatic, or both, this episode has you covered with insightful analysis, bold predictions, and the passionate football talk you've been missing all offseason.
welcome back to the podcast. Today is wednesday, september the 9th and we back people.
Speaker 2:There is so much to talk about. We are current, we are back. We. This is for our podcast. The thing that, honestly, this is what we do best. This is we talk football, mostly football, and then honestly all football, and then we talk about a little bit of baseball when the playoffs come around, but like when we get to talk about just football, college nfl, all of that is where we are pretty much in our bag. This is what we care about the most, exactly as jay says, and we're only doing one this. We're only doing one pod this week because we don't have any nfl games to react to. We're just going to kind of do one podcast where we do the reaction to all the college football week one games actual week one, not week zero and then we're going to do our picks for all the nfl games for week one. So, without further ado, I want to jump right into it. Hopefully, I don't want to ramble on too much about this stuff, but I just have some thoughts about some of the games that happened for college football this past weekend and I'll start with the thing that, honestly, is the most important to me Ohio State, texas.
Speaker 2:Texas came into the horseshoe in Columbus and they played that game out. Ohio State won the game 14-7. It was a defensive mastermind of a performance by Ohio State. But that's not what anybody's going to talk about. They're going to talk about how Arch Manning struggled in this game. He went 17-30 for 170 yards, one touchdown Honestly, most of those passing yards coming off of two, a couple drives at the end of the game where he hits like two big. One of his big passes was a touchdown pass which wasn't a touchdown. Jason, did you think that was a touchdown? The touchdown in the corner when the wide receiver kind of went down and it was. The ball was fumbling around and they said, oh, it was a catch. I'm like it's not a catch.
Speaker 1:It wasn't a catch at all I was on the fence about that one too it wasn't a cat, it was not a catch.
Speaker 2:I didn't think it was, I didn't think he fully lost it though. Yeah, but the ball. He never secured it. It was like he has to have security.
Speaker 1:I swear, it's a little confusing. I don't think he fully lost the ball. I can't say he secured it but it never took the ground.
Speaker 2:But the ball was totally moving the whole time to where he didn't actually secure it. So I was sitting there like that shouldn't have been a touchdown, even though it was a great pass. Our corner did. Jermaine Matthews did everything.
Speaker 1:He could in that play. He was right there.
Speaker 2:But it was a perfect spot. Wide receiver took it to the ground. I don't think it was a touchdown, but again, in the end does it actually matter. No, but I would have liked to blank them.
Speaker 1:Personally, I would like 50-50 on it.
Speaker 2:I was like 50-50 on it. I get it Again. I was not mortified that they kept the call the same.
Speaker 1:No, I wasn't, Because I felt like if they would have called it, but I was sitting there watching. I was like eh, I was like eh, I can see why it's a catch.
Speaker 2:I feel like if they would have called it a non-catch, they would have left it at that, I think, hopefully.
Speaker 1:But again, I think that it's a lot closer to 50-50 than you like. It can go either way for sure.
Speaker 2:I just don't think he truly had control.
Speaker 1:I don't either, but again.
Speaker 2:So he had that pass and he had the one the rail shot against cover. Two Wyber's here was going right down the left field sideline. He makes a beautiful pass, but that was like the only two big flashes of Archer's game. He had very bad mechanics. He was missing balls all over the place. He was throwing some of the dirt, he was overthrowing like it was all over the place in a way that for arch is the one thing and then I'm only talking about arch first, because that's what everybody else is going to talk about. He was getting destroyed on twitter. Everybody's like, oh, he's the only reason.
Speaker 2:Again, the whole sentiment is now that everybody realizes it after he had been overhyped so much by the media for three months to be the Manning, the guy coming out for Texas. His coming out party was against Ohio State and now everybody wants to call him trash. And I can tell you, after the game happened I was happy because I'm like, oh, we stuffed him into a locker right. Very happy for my team. My defense played great. I'll get to the Ohio State part of it in a minute.
Speaker 2:But the more that I've thought about it, the more that I'm like, oh, ohio State's not going to get the credit they deserve for this win, because they're just going to say Arch Manning is ass, when I think over the next three weeks, where he's going to be, they're going to be playing tomato cans, arch Manning's going to be throwing all over the place and he's going to throw for a billion yards and they're going to go get a bunch of touchdowns and everybody's going to be back on the Arch bandwagon again. So I say all this to say Arch's mechanics were bad, the fact that he is a Manning. He's had the people around him that he's had throughout his whole life and honestly, it looks like he's been groomed to be a quarterback for a long time. For him to as have as bad as mechanics as he's had was kind of a weird thing. Maybe it's just nerves, but I'm just like he's been trained, so much knowing his o-line was bad maybe
Speaker 2:yeah, uh, because, let's be honest, he had no time in the pocket they didn't trust the O-line at all, which is why they kept the offense so vanilla, it would snap and their shit's crumbling. Yeah, and again, some of the passes he did mess up, but some of them like it looks like he's rushing the ball out for sure like he's just trying to get the ball out to somebody did you see some of the the nasty he tried to do the sidearm stuff and it looked so unnatural it did.
Speaker 2:I'm just like that was the one thing I worry about with him, because I'm just like he's probably been training for so long and the fact that maybe the game was too much for him. But if it was that bad to where all of his mechanics crumbled, that could be an issue. But otherwise I think the ohio state defense did great job. Like Matt Patricia, the defensive coordinator, I had my questions about him before, when he came, before he came to Ohio state, because obviously how bad of a job he did in Detroit, kind of destroying that whole, that whole team. Before he got fired I had my my worries about it and plus, you can kind of kind of make yourself believe oh, he was just, he was coaching with Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick is the defensive mind and he just kind of like attached onto that right. I don't believe that shit at all. After watching this game he had the Ohio State defense looking absolutely insane with what they were doing before the snap. After the snap they kind of hit everything. There was times where, like, caleb Downs was still the kind of like in the middle of the field doing whatever you wanted, like that defense was a NFL defense, no ifs, ands or buts about. And I really do think they made life hard on on Arch and on Steve Sarkeesian, the head coach, because I don't I think they even got Sarkeesian thinking like, oh, this is what they're going to do, and then it's something else, something that they kind of hadn't seen before. So I do think the Ohio State defense was awesome. And there were the Texans. Texas went one for five on fourth down and they had the ball inside the five-yard line goal to go twice and Ohio State turned away twice. So going against Ohio State in the red zone is going to be an absolute tear. It's going to be very hard for you to go against this Ohio State defense. And this is, I think, the most impressive thing about this thing for Ohio State, which is why I think it's not going to give Ohio State a lot of credit. The Ohio State offense didn't produce a lot. Jeremiah Smith had his struggles. He had a couple drops. We have like four total drops in this game. That kind of takes away from what the Ohio State offense was able to do. Drops in this game, that kind of takes away from what the Ohio State offense was able to do. But Ohio State I mean Texas outgained Ohio State in every category. Texas had more passing yards, they had more rushing yards in every way, because I think the Texas defense is actually very good. That was something we all knew about coming into the season. But I just think that the Ohio State defense is not going to get enough credit for being as crazy, crazy good as they were, because everybody's going to want to jump on the Arches now terrible bandwagon, even though I think Arch will get better throughout the season.
Speaker 2:Do I think he's generational? Hell, no, I don't think. I think the word generational is overused nowadays. So do I think he's generational? No, do I think he could still be a very good quarterback? Yeah, for sure, that's something I have no doubt about. He has all the physical tools and when he did show it on those last couple drives to keep the game close at the end, that, like, he showed that he has something there. And not to mention, he was a very good runner, like when he got to get outside the pocket and really start to get running. He has some speed to him, for sure, without a doubt, but I just want to make sure, like I again, as an Ohio State fan, I'm very, um sensitive to this, so I just don't like the idea that Ohio State, for getting the win against the number one team everybody thought was going to come into this year with Arch Manning as their quarterback and just run college football. Ohio State got the win, even with our quarterback being a first-time starter. He came and I think he was the better quarterback between the two.
Speaker 2:I think Julian Sane came into that game. He was tough as nails. He never looked flustered. The moment wasn't too big for him. They didn't ask him to do a lot, he only. He went 13 to 20, 126 yards in a touchdown. The one touchdown he did have was to Carnell Tate. It was a nice touchdown pass. It was a little short, but I think what everybody tells quarterbacks is that you'd rather have the throw be too short than rather be too long, because if you're short and the ball's high, the wide receiver has a chance to go up in the air and adjust and go get the ball. And Carnell Tate did that. And carnell tate's awesome, which says, which is why I'm happy they had that moment.
Speaker 2:Jeremiah smith didn't necessarily have a come out, coming out party, he only had. He had six receptions for 43 yards, but texas had three people looking at him at all times. There was only one play where jeremiah had a one-on-one scenario and julian sand didn't see it, or I think he thought that there was going to be a safety kind of rolling over top to kind of maybe take the play away. But other than that Jeremiah had three people looking at him at all times so he wasn't going to be able to get go crazy in this game because Texas again has a really good defense. So I think Julian Sand played great. I think they're going to open up the offense more as they go along.
Speaker 2:I think he was tough as nails. He's stupid accurate. Every ball he threw was on the money, like literally. He was tough as nails. He's stupid accurate. Every ball he threw was on the money, like literally. He was like a pinpoint sniper, like I think I've said this before. He gives me CJ Stroud vibes with how accurate he is. Again, cj has more of like the prototypical body. He's 6'3". Cj is 6'3". Big guy, julian. He's like 6'1", so he's a little shorter. So I'm not sure if he necessarily has the crazy arm talent that a guy like CJ has, but he's pinpoint accurate. He knew what he had to do in this moment and the moment wasn't too big for him and he played great. He didn't put the ball in harm's way, he showed some flashes and I think Ohio State will open up the offense more as they go throughout the season. They're going to be playing Grambling State this week. I think they're going to be opening up the offense, throwing the ball on the field a lot and kind of like for the next three weeks. They don't play anybody. So I think Ohio State made a big statement coming out of this game. They made Arch look stupid for the day, but I think Arch looked better and I think my going thing for this is that Ohio State's win against Texas will not be appreciated until Texas turns into the team that they're going to be six weeks from now, where Arch will be playing a lot better, and I think people will start looking at this game a lot more fondly on Ohio State's end rather than just saying Texas sucks and Arch Manning sucks.
Speaker 2:Am I being crazy? Am I being my slob in Ohio State? I always am. Am I being too crazy about it? Yes, do you think I am? Yes, why wait? What do you am I? Am I going too crazy about it? Yes, do you think I am. Yes, why Am I going too hard on the Ohio State's not getting enough credit?
Speaker 2:Yes, Maybe, Definitely, most fucking definitely. Do you think Ohio State didn't do? I think Ohio State had just as much to do about Arch Manning struggling as Arch Manning was. Yeah, I don't disagree with you on that.
Speaker 1:That's where I think Ohio State's just as much to do about Arch Manning struggling as Arch Manning was. Yeah, I don't disagree with you on that.
Speaker 2:That's where I think Ohio State's not getting enough credit. I think defensively they're not getting enough credit and I also think that the whole offense and defense not producing as much. If Nick Saban would have had a game like this, they would have applauded Nick Saban for winning a game.
Speaker 1:This was every Nick Saban game.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, but they would applaud Nick Saban, for this is a great coaching job. He got outgained, his offense didn't do great, but he made the young quarterback not look good and they won the game anyway. But when Ryan Day does it, they're like oh, ohio State didn't play all that great and neither did Texas.
Speaker 1:Are these teams that good? That's not exactly how Ryan. That's not Ryan Day's play style.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it's usually more offensive for sure.
Speaker 1:Yes, we blow a team out by 30.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, I guess the playoff run didn't help with that. But again.
Speaker 1:You guys do that. In every game you blow it. Every team you play out by 30. Urban Meyer, we're within fucking better than most of these teams.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But he played, so it was so conservative so defensive focused. Yeah, that it was. Every yard is a struggle compared to Ryan Day is throw that bitch downfield, he'll catch it.
Speaker 2:True, okay, yeah, okay, I can maybe get behind that In this game it was offensive. It was very conservative on both sides. I think Ohio State and Texas did not want to. The offense was focused.
Speaker 1:Yeah, minimize mistakes. Don't let any mistakes we do make, don't let them profit off of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because our defense was the defense was leading the day.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and I think Ryan Day realized that very, very early, so we kept the plays short.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we kept them small. We do not have to overdo, we don't have to do anything. Make the right decision.
Speaker 1:Don't try to overdo it, which is why he didn't see Jeremiah when he was open. Yeah, because that would be too much. There's no reason to. Yeah, make the small plays.
Speaker 2:Make the right play yeah.
Speaker 1:So you can play. I think that was the goal of the day, which is why everybody's like Ohio State didn't play as well Last year. There was not a single team that was anywhere near you Not once we got to the playoffs. Not once. Oregon was the only team that got close to you last year.
Speaker 2:What During the season. Yes, it was Oregon and obviously Michigan. But again, that game's always hard, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:No one else was within two touchdowns.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no one else was within two touchdowns?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure, and that's just how Ryan Day has always coached. No one else is within any scores of you.
Speaker 2:So what you're saying is nobody understands that there may be a time where Ryan Day has a team where the defense might be better.
Speaker 1:You have to hunker down and drag it out.
Speaker 2:For sure.
Speaker 1:Which is why I think people who look at college football on an analytical level understand that, but people who look at college football of just I want to see points.
Speaker 2:Sporty ball yeah.
Speaker 1:And they don't understand that.
Speaker 2:Like, that game was an NFL-style game. That was a knock-down, drag-out fight.
Speaker 1:It was a knock-down, drag-out fight, and that's what this game had to be, because it was. I watched this game start to finish and it was what exactly I assumed it was going to be. It was going to be a defensive showdown and it was going to be a slow, methodical game. It was like 0-0 throughout the first fucking quarter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was 7-0 going into halftime yeah, and I was like this this shit is stupid. Yeah, but again a defensive battle. There's something I don't see with the bengals, so it's interesting to watch yeah for sure.
Speaker 2:I just think that once ryan day saw the house of defense was making arch look not good, that day he's like I don't have to open up the offense at all and let julian say and have an opportunity to make a mistake, because think about, if you're going into that moment at your first start and you make the big mistake and lose the game, that can shatter your confidence.
Speaker 1:I agree, but again on the opposite side, as your defense was playing so well, he could have cut Julian Tate and lose some more plays. He could have yeah, but again when you're playing another top five team you don't want to risk it. Why fucking do that? We're playing Grambling State next week. You, you could do the shit next week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you could throw all over the yard next week.
Speaker 1:This week is the week of hey, you have to just make the right play, and I don't.
Speaker 2:They knew what they had to do.
Speaker 1:How was they played? Exactly how I assumed they would play. They kept the offense minimal, they kept it methodical and they kept scores consistent.
Speaker 2:I think they coached like adults, Like they did not coach like they were going to play Madden. I Coach like they were going to play Madden. I watched an NFL-style offense, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I watched an NFL-style defense.
Speaker 2:Hey, our defense is going to win today. Let's just go ahead and not ruin it offensively and make the right plays on offense. And Caleb Downs is an absolute. He's insane dude. Every time I watch him it just gets better and better. But yeah, that's all I have on that. Honestly, both of these teams from now, 10 weeks from now, I think, this game they might actually have a rematch of this game in the playoff at some point.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Texas looks their offense. Orange Manning, as well as the coaching staff, looks like they don't trust the O-line and I watched the O-line. That shit breaks down. He fucking.
Speaker 2:They're talented, but they're just not together.
Speaker 1:They're not melded yet they would miss blocks.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That you could tell somebody was supposed to pick up. Yeah, but no one knew that they're good, they are Last play of the game.
Speaker 2:They missed a. Cj Hicks came right off the edge. The right tackle didn't even see him Managed to get to Arch, to where Arch couldn't make the play, and the play is missed.
Speaker 1:Real quick was managed to get to arch, to where arch couldn't make the play, and the play is missed. Yeah, when you know these motherfuckers are not like together as a o-line, because that's an o-line, you can have a bunch of guys who are okay right, but if they're working as a unit.
Speaker 2:It makes them look better right, yeah, they weren't doing that. No for sure. It was a very young offensive line and you could tell they played the. They played the game that way. They felt like they couldn't trust the offensive line at all.
Speaker 1:Yes, and real quick. Even as any type of player, when you feel like you know your coach doesn't trust you, it makes it hard to focus. Yeah, for sure. And again that shit was not.
Speaker 2:Arvel Reese and Sonny Siles were monsters, though I said Mitch would put it out there.
Speaker 1:Yes, they were, they were they're very, very good. They're aliens but you could just tell that they didn't trust the line in arch manning.
Speaker 2:You could see his face oh yeah, for sure um again not only you couldn't trust the offensive line, you didn't know the pressure was coming from. There was times there was two guys with their hand in the dirt and nine other dudes standing up looking at arch manning in the face. I don't know how you go into a game like that. It's like oh, I've never seen this in my life. What am I I supposed to do? So like they really did have an NFL approach when that defense came into that game.
Speaker 1:You're sitting back there real quick. You're not in Texas, you are in the horseshoe.
Speaker 2:Loud apparently. Apparently they changed it up to where, like it was crazy loud in that place, get all those fucking old people out of there. I fucking hate this shit. Yeah, they gotta die off.
Speaker 1:The one time we went there, it was oddly quiet. Y'all were blowing Akron the fuck out. That was 2014. Yeah, yeah, the championship year, dude. And there was all the motherfuckers in front of us and behind us. Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2:That's.
Speaker 1:Alabama's biggest problem. Their whole fan base is fucking ancient. Yeah, and it's quiet in that motherfucker.
Speaker 2:This is what makes Columbus so hard and they expect to win at all times. Exactly which is how Alabama's having their issues now. We'll get to that in a bit.
Speaker 1:Same with Nets. But yes, I just that is a hard thing to do.
Speaker 2:If this game would have been two weeks from like in week three or week four, that game would have been played out a lot differently.
Speaker 1:Again, if that game's in week three, week four, you're watching a fucking shootout.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think the Ohio State defense would be even scarier. The fact that they look like a boa constrictor already in week one. They're going to be murderers by the end of the season. That's insane, the fact that they were able to be that detailed and NFL-like in the secondary.
Speaker 1:Wild, but again you didn't play the best offense ever.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure, for sure. I think they both. Both things can be true.
Speaker 1:The defense of Rahasi was awesome and Arch still had his struggles in a way that he had his own hand in it, I agree, but I can't say the defense was awesome, because they played a poor offense. You played an O-line that was nowhere near as good as any of your defensive players, who were all in their third and fourth year, and then your secondary. Their receivers have never been fucking good, oh, their receivers.
Speaker 2:They lost so much speed. There was only one guy on that receiver that was even remotely kind of good Ryan Wingo. He was the guy, the only one, that's actually like oh, that dude stands off stands out.
Speaker 1:A lot of their receivers were big body receivers. Their oh, that dude stands off stands out.
Speaker 2:A lot of their receivers were big body receivers. Their best wide receiver that day was the white dude. He was the one with the touchdown catch.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. So y'all did not face no world leader of an offense. That offense is mid. That offense is a definition of it is okay and Arch Manning is what's supposed to level them up to be good. Right, okay, he, he wasn't there, so they did not have athletes at the receiver position. They did not, no, and they started running the ball and they realized their running back's actually pretty fucking good.
Speaker 2:Well, their running backs are good. For sure, they ran for a decent clip.
Speaker 1:They did, but they just wouldn't consistently keep running the ball.
Speaker 2:And they couldn't run in short yardage. They could not get the yardage they needed. They tried the freaking quarterback sneak on the one. He had no chance. His face was up while the rest of his body was laying down.
Speaker 1:Going against Ohio State in the red zone is an impossible task, but but again I can't say your defense was awesome when you did not play a high caliber offense. You will play higher caliber. No the fuck, you won't. Your schedule is cake.
Speaker 2:We won't see an offense like that until you get to the playoffs. Well, Penn State, I guess.
Speaker 1:Nigga.
Speaker 2:Do I trust Penn State? No, I don't my nigga be for real.
Speaker 1:Penn State's going to have the most mid-nigger throw of the ball ever. Drew Aller again With some mid-ass fucking receivers with two great-ass running backs that are going to get drafted. That's how their offense is. Every fucking year they have an okay quarterback who mostly kind of runs. I don't believe in Drew Aller either, not a single receiver, you know, with the next coming of Barry Sanders in the backfield.
Speaker 2:That's what they do every fucking year. That's what they do every year.
Speaker 1:Yeah for sure, but their offense ain't really that good and their defense is fire.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But not their secondary. Just the front seven, not the secondary. Front seven makes sure the ball don't get off often, but you get that bitch off. That secondary is fucked. They are fucked. You know how. I know that I watched the fucking Michigan State do it with Kenny Walker. We ran that bitch at Michael Parsons 37 times. That nigga did not stop, not one yeah, no, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2:Real quick can we talk?
Speaker 1:about that. No one talked about how he was fucking awful at it. Michael Parsons was goddamn fucking trash at it. Hey, he was a pass rushing specialist at that point I know, but even then we got that bitch up to Jaden Reed once. I'm like God, sorry.
Speaker 2:I hate Michael Parsons, but yeah, both these teams will be a lot different going on in the season, but Both these teams will be a lot different going on in the season.
Speaker 2:But for game one Ohio State won. Next game LSU-Clemson. That was a very good game. Two teams with veteran quarterbacks. The game looked a lot different because they trust the quarterbacks to make those plays. Garrett Nussmeyer, who's looked as probably the best pro-ready guy coming into this season, he was great 28-38, 232 and a touchdown. Clemson their guy, cade Klubnick, didn't necessarily do all that great. He went 19-38, 230 yards and an interception.
Speaker 2:That Clemson offensive line is a struggle. They're supposed to be very talented and most of them started last year but they totally got outclassed. Lsu's issues on defense looked like they were fixed, but against a Clemson Tiger offense that really is not all that consistent. They haven't been consistent in years. The question is, can you trust that LSU defense to play like that against all the other teams they have to face on their schedule is a big question mark. Because I just think Clemson for the last three, four years now they're good against teams they are much better than, but when they face the teams on similar levels as them, that's when they struggle and kind of play like ass. And so LSU came out, played very good ball.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Clemson struggled like a motherfucker against Pitt last year.
Speaker 2:Oh, they lost. I think they lost to. Was it Louisville? I think I think they lost louisville last year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they the game against pit, where I think they were. They went to double overtime yeah and kade klubnick legit. Had to lead them down the field to get into overtime right and I'm like you're better than fucking pit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not wrong again, they should be. And then everybody saw this year was like the moment where clemson would be, likeon would finally get back to being what they were and this game it did not look like. So I think LSU kind of outclassed them in a way. And this is with Clemson playing at home. So that's what kind of made this. You know people that thought this number nine LSU Tigers team has the best win in the nation now and I'm like you can't say that. And honestly, it was all about ESPN doing it because again, once their golden ticket Archimandian Texas lost, they had to find a new golden ticket to kind of attach to. So they picked another SEC team, they picked LSU and like all of them were like, oh, lsu's the best team in the nation now and I'm like you can't say that. I think they jumped up to number team in the nation now and I'm like you can't say that. I think they jumped up to number two in the AP poll, right behind Ohio State. But I'm like if you were calling Texas the best team coming into the season, you can't all of a sudden change it up now. But no, it was a very good game. It wasn't like it was a high-flying game. They won 17-10. But it was a very good game with very more veteran quarterback play. That did give me an opportunity to be like oh, this is what it will look like when you have quarterbacks that are trusted to go out there and run the offense like they want to. Um other games georgia destroyed, marshall oregon destroyed montana state. Oh, bama, as a 14-point favorite, lost to Florida State 31-17. Honestly, the game wasn't even that close.
Speaker 2:Florida State made Alabama look like they did not belong on the same field as them. And this was a Florida State team that went 2-10 last year that brought in like 20-something transfers again this season. But included in those transfers they brought in was Tommy Castellanos, a quarterback that played with BC last year and he was talking so much trash during the offseason saying, hey, nick Saban, ain't there no more to save you and I don't think they have anybody that can stop me. And everybody was like I think they asked a couple Alabama players about it and they're like oh, we're going to take care of that first game of the season. And Tommy Castellanos came out and did his thing. He went 9 of 14 for 152 yards, but then he also had 16 carries for 78 yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 2:This Florida State team ran the football for 230 yards and four touchdowns. Alabama they were coming in with a new new quarterback, but he's like a spreadshirt senior, like so. He's been there for years without playing. Ty Simpson 23 of 43, 254 yards and two touchdowns. I think he was the only bright spot on this offense because he was getting destroyed. That offensive line that was supposed to be super talented was awful and they were getting beat up by a Florida State defensive line and their crazy talented young wide receiver and Ryan Williams.
Speaker 1:Five receptions for 30 yards when I was here yesterday I we not yesterday when the games were on, why you fucking drop touchdown pass? I'm talking he had like five or six steps on his DB. Fucking drop that bitch.
Speaker 2:I think their coach DeBoer. I think he'll be fired by the end of the season. Do you know he has lost five times. He has five and five in the last ten games he has coached at Alabama. He has lost four games already in his young Alabama coaching career as a favorite, nick Saban did it four times in 18 years.
Speaker 1:You are fucked. You are so fucked. You are so fucked. Oh my God, you are lucky that most of your fans don't know how to use the internet because they're too fucking old or you would have been fucking beheaded.
Speaker 2:This is the problem is that you don't want you never want to be the guy after the guy't want. You never want to be the guy after the guy, and deborah chose to be the guy after the guy, and now he's going to be put on the cross because bama fans are going to have to like come to like a. They're gonna have to understand that nick saban ain't here to save you, no more. Just like the quarterback from florida state said, you had the best the best coach that probably will go. You had the best the best coach that probably will go down as the best college coach to ever live right Without him. You're just like the rest of us now. You are not going to sit here and guarantee yourself 11, 12 wins every year and potentially being a national title favorite. You're down with the rest of us now and it looks like this dude is not necessarily the right coach with the right mindset to coach in a place like Alabama.
Speaker 2:I think a lot of their players are probably going to transfer after this year because they're going to want to be in a different situation. I think they're going to lose two or three more games this season and it's going to be a big problem because I think, ultimately, there is a whole generation of Alabama fans that know nothing but winning. If you are under the age of like 35, you have never seen Alabama be awful Never seen it. And I think these Alabama fans are kind of like New England fans in a way, when they lost Brady and still had Belichick, but they were trying to. They're starting to be. Bad is that the fans don't understand what life is like when you're like the rest of college football and not just sitting at the throne. Why are you? I don't think I'm being and I don't think I'm saying anything all that bad, it's just Rich coming from you.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to not talk about Ohio State. I think I'm being honest about Alabama.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but again it's where rich come from.
Speaker 2:I'm being honest.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying it's real rich coming from you. You are under the age of 35. You have never fucking experienced losing before.
Speaker 2:Ohio State didn't have one, six, six and seven, five and seven season. But that was when Trussell got fired because he hid the part that the players sold their own stuff for tattoos.
Speaker 1:How long ago was that?
Speaker 2:That was in 2011.
Speaker 1:You won a national championship three years later. Yeah, with Urban, shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2:We didn't even get half of the season and it was like, oh Urban's coming, oh boy.
Speaker 1:Shut the fuck up. You have no room to talk. But the same argument was stated to you when y'all niggas were losing to Michigan. There's a whole generation of OSU fans that have never tasted this defeat.
Speaker 2:To Michigan.
Speaker 1:yes, yes, okay, so you're making the same fuck, you're saying the same shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I also think that Ohio State has been like this with multiple coaches.
Speaker 1:This is rich coming from you, y'all niggas, just get. Here's this motherfucker that won a snap as a championship, and here's a nigga that coached right under him.
Speaker 2:Ohio State's done it with multiple guys at the head coaching position. Bama's. They've had two head coaches that brought them all their prominence Bear Bryant and Nick Saban. Without those two coaches, Bama has not been good, but Nick Saban was there for so long. There is a whole portion of their fan base that knows nothing but winning at all times Now without a Nick Saban level coach, because I think even Ohio State can say that they have done it with multiple head coaches. They won a title with Jim Trussell in 2001 or 2002. One of those years 2001, I think they won a title with Urban Meyer and won a bunch of games with Urban, and now they've done it with Ryan Day. So I think Ohio State, in a way, because of where they're at, they're not in the SEC. That's something that I have to give Ohio State credit for, because they were the team in a time where the rest of the Big Ten wasn't as competitive.
Speaker 1:My nigga. This is the fucking problem of what you're saying. Your schedule looks like cake but it's 80% Big Ten teams. You are the biggest fish in a pond. That really ain't that fucking big. It is big. No, it's not my nigga, it's that big.
Speaker 2:Penn State alright, penn State, michigan just won a national title two years ago, I don't want to give them credit, but they did.
Speaker 1:Michigan is fucking ass, dude. They're ass. We all know this. Y'all niggas had to bring bigger fish to the pond. That's true, because the pond is too fucking small.
Speaker 2:Not that the pond was too small.
Speaker 1:My nigga. Every year, half the teams in the Big Ten don't even make a fucking comment. They don't make a bowl game. Six teams didn't make a bowl game last year. I don't think that's the case. Go ahead. I know, you know why. I know this. Michigan State was one of them, rutgers was another one, merlin was another one. Go ahead, nigga. Six may be a lot, but it was at least four.
Speaker 2:Let's see Big Ten 2024 standings um. So let's see here nine and no conference overall. Okay, um one, two, three.
Speaker 1:It was exactly six yeah, my nigga, that is half of us. That's not half, but that is still too real. How many of those teams are actual Big Ten teams? And you subtract the other four niggas that just joined.
Speaker 2:Oregon won the Big Ten last year.
Speaker 1:You subtract those four niggas that just joined, how many of them are Big Ten? They're all original Big Ten teams, aren't they?
Speaker 2:No, UCLA. Ucla doesn't make a will either.
Speaker 1:And they were only brought over to balance the fucking, to balance us back out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they had to come with USC. They were a package deal.
Speaker 1:It was Oregon and USC. Fuck the other two teams.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1:Real quick. You had to bring two more big fish to the pond and USC is like a medium fish at best.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, At their best they're a big fish. But again, who's going to take it?
Speaker 1:But again, y'all have been in a division with teams who have never been as good as you Never have these teams been as good as you.
Speaker 1:Even the years where you would lose to Michigan, you were still fucking better than Michigan, okay. So I'm sorry You've been in a division with some shitty-ass teams, none of which are as good as you, none of which are even on the same fucking level as you. Fuck, if you go to college football right now, half the Big Ten teams don't even make it past three-star schools. It's okay, real quick, shut the fuck up, nigga.
Speaker 2:Your argument is ass, it's not ass, it's ass.
Speaker 1:I understand what band of fans are going through. The SEC is a better division.
Speaker 2:You need a better conference.
Speaker 1:Yes, you are a fucking. You are one of the biggest fishes in football and a not super big. The Big Ten is old. All of us ain't really that fucking good it has gotten better over the last couple of years and some of us are fucking.
Speaker 2:Rutgers, so or Purdue, or Maryland it has gotten better over the last couple years and some of us are fucking Rutgers so or Purdue or Maryland my nigga.
Speaker 1:Those are three of the teams that have been here the longest, except Purdue fuck Purdue.
Speaker 2:Rutgers and Maryland are the newer ones that they both have sucked.
Speaker 1:Michigan State sucked. They were good for five years and they stopped doing that shit. And there's enough of that look man my nigga, what you're saying is such a shitty fucking argument because you are the biggest fish in a fucking small pond. Take your ass over to like dude. You're like, you're Clemson, You're fucking the biggest fish in the fucking ACC.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you can say that, but Ohio State has proven to go beat the big fish in the SEC as well.
Speaker 1:But take your ass over there, then See how good you do every year nigga.
Speaker 2:Your schedule is cake. We would do just as good.
Speaker 1:Every game, my nigga. You are going into next week playing who?
Speaker 2:That's the same as every other team I have to go struggle my ass against Youngstown State because we are not as good as them.
Speaker 1:We are not better than Youngstown State. You are better than Youngstown.
Speaker 2:State.
Speaker 1:No, the good as them. We are not better than Youngstown State. You are better than Youngstown State. No, the fuck, we're not. Yes, you are Okay, we're about to get dicked on. I'm not going to lie to you. We're going to get dicked on. You're like 20 point favorites, dude, you're fine. That's generous, that's not generous. That's the truth, javante.
Speaker 2:Okay. Is anything I said about Alabama wrong?
Speaker 1:It's fucking trash, trash. Dude. You are trying to talk from your fucking high horse. Get off that shit. You're in a shitty fucking. The Big Ten is not that fucking good, the Big Ten's fucking old.
Speaker 2:We had more teams make the Pogge Bowl playoff last year than the SEC did last year, how many teams? Made it Five. Big Ten teams made it. Four made it from the SEC. Did last year. How many teams made it? Five Big Ten teams made it. Four made it from the SEC. What are the teams? Ohio.
Speaker 1:State Oregon. My nigga, are you dead? The fuck ass. They've been in the Big Ten a year. Real quick. Again they were brought over to the Big Ten. Go ahead, keep going.
Speaker 2:Ohio State, oregon, indiana.
Speaker 1:We all know they weren't supposed to be there. Yeah, they did. Nope, there's podcasts On podcasts. You're saying they were never meant to be there. Stop lying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe On podcasts.
Speaker 1:You have said that shit. No, no, not. Maybe that shit is recorded. Fuck out of here, go ahead, continue on.
Speaker 2:Penn State.
Speaker 1:Okay, they were all right, just get dunked on. But yeah, okay, all right, they were there. They're a medium fish at best, by the way, sorry it was four to three, not five to four. It was four to three. All right, Cool, cool, cool cool. You are a big fish with you had to bring another big fish. But let's just get rid of those four teams, right?
Speaker 2:Okay, you.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh Penn State.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, it's not that big of a gap. There's a gap, but not that big of a gap. Penn State's as talented. There's no way you can say that Penn State's not as talented as Ohio State. Name three receivers on the roster right now Got nothing Cool.
Speaker 1:Name a nigga in their secondary.
Speaker 2:I got nothing Again. I don't follow Penn State every day.
Speaker 1:I could go up to a random college football fan. They know who Caleb Downs is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, but that's Caleb Downs. That doesn't come around every year, bro. That's a different being right there my nigga when micah parsons.
Speaker 1:I don't know who the fuck he was till. He was talking to cj shroud yeah, for sure so okay, real quick. Penn state is nowhere near as fucking talented as you right now or a year by year basis. Ever, nigga? When's the last time they beat you?
Speaker 2:2013?.
Speaker 1:Joe, get the fuck out of my face. I'm going to punch you straight in the fucking nose. You're making arguments that are crumbling at the fucking. They are crumbling at the feet, dude. You are making arguments that suck.
Speaker 2:Look, I was making the case that a lot of Bama's best years were because of one man. The one man is gone.
Speaker 1:Dude, your best years are because you were in a shitty conference. Your conference is shitty. I need you and all the other fucking big schools to make one big conference. Fuck the NCAA. Go, fuck yourself. We're better than you.
Speaker 2:You would be a part of that dude.
Speaker 1:No, I don't want to be a part of that shit. I want to go play with Pitt and the niggas in the ACC. We would fit great in the ACC. No, no, put us in the Mountain West. We would fit great in the Mountain West. We make a comfortable playoff every year. Right, go to us over there. I don't want to be in a big tent with y'all niggas anymore.
Speaker 2:You don't even have to face us, you're fine.
Speaker 1:I don't want to face you ever. I want to take my ass over to the fucking Mountain West with Boise, because we would dog shit, we would dog stomp the fuck out of Boise.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1:They're good every five years.
Speaker 2:Not last year, but this year, for sure, but this year we would dog stomp the fuck out of them.
Speaker 1:And they're the best team in the conference Maybe not? Usf looks Shit. Go put us in the fucking uh uh Sun Belt. South Florida was dirty to them last week but okay, again, go put us in the Sun Belt, my nigga Go put us in the American, okay so you're saying I'm coming from a privileged point of view talking about this?
Speaker 1:The teams around you have never been as big as you, have never been as good as you, okay, okay. So what you're saying? We won with everybody. Everybody had to play, nobody. Urban Meyer made that shit look hard, for no reason. Urban Meyer made this shit look hard.
Speaker 2:He would lose For no fucking reason. Urban had the problem.
Speaker 1:He would lose to an unranked team that they were way fucking better than You'd have to be looking at him like all you had to do was throw the ball down the field and stop running it. On third and eight. Yeah, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2:That was Urban's big problem. Okay, so real quick. Ryan Day's problem is Michigan.
Speaker 1:Urban made this shit look real fucking hard, really fucking hard For no fucking reason, no it looked easy, but then it looked hard because you lose the weird game.
Speaker 2:Why would that ever happen?
Speaker 1:All the games would be way too fucking close for no fucking reason. For way too fucking long Ryan Day puts that shit in the fucking bud. You're coming out of the first quarter of most of these games, up 14. And you're leaving up three. That's how Ryan Day does this shit. But again, two of the games of your schedule are Rutgers-Maryland. So are you really doing some shit? Look schedule at Rutgers Maryland.
Speaker 2:So are you really doing some shit?
Speaker 1:Look, I'm just saying you have like your best wins will be from Penn State and Michigan most years, but them niggas are both 9 and 8 and not that fucking good. What's his name? Luke Fickle, jim Trussell Nigga with the glasses that looks like Keegan-Michael. Name Luke Fickle, jim Trussell Nigga with the glasses that looks like Keegan-Michael Key.
Speaker 2:Luke uh, Jim Trussell. He's a choker like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1:No On for Penn State.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's uh, James Franklin.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:That's from my Ohio State coaches.
Speaker 1:No, james Franklin, that motherfucker is putting glue on a gumball and eating that shit and choking his ass out.
Speaker 1:No for sure, okay, so real quick. On average, this next best team is Penn State, and Penn State is not fucking good. Shut the fuck up. You're the biggest team in a shitty conference. Your coaches didn't have a hard fucking job to do. Beat the fuck out of them. We'll be out of here in 20 minutes. Shut the fuck up. The SEC all around is a better conference than the Big Ten. You could take a middle of the road SEC team. Put their ass in the Big Ten.
Speaker 2:They would dog walk most of us LSU would dog stomp the fuck out of half of us, lsu is like a top three team in the SEC most years dude.
Speaker 1:I don't know any SEC teams, I start mixing the SEC and the ACC.
Speaker 2:What are you talking about, south Carolina?
Speaker 1:I typed in sex teams and it still brought up the SEC. Gotta delete that for my history later. Florida.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Stop fucking them or half of us. They'd end up third in the Big Ten, potentially, yeah.
Speaker 2:Auburn no, auburn's awful. They had one year of Canada. If Auburn's awful.
Speaker 1:Then what the fuck is Michigan State? They made a ball game last year. Auburn would dog walk us Real quick. If Michigan State is the bar to be okay in the Big Ten, auburn is league's fucking bad numbers. Michigan State is the marker for okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure In the Big Ten. Yeah, look man, I was just trying to spit some game about Bama fans. Never do it again. Never do it again.
Speaker 1:You come from a place of I get to play in a shitty conference. You're the fucking. You're God, god damn, dude. If you ain't the fucking Tampa Bay Buccaneers, all I gotta do is make it to nine and eight and I'm making the playoffs.
Speaker 2:Get the fuck out of my face.
Speaker 1:You are a motherfucker Is. Is the words I'm saying wrong or the wrong coming from me? What you're saying is wrong when your conference ain't as good as theirs. His job is way fucking harder than anybody else's. Nick Saban had that shit down pat because he's been doing it for 18 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because Nick Saban was the Death Star. He created the Death Star in the SEC.
Speaker 1:Here's the best team in your conference. Don't fuck it up, don't fumble this shit. Hey, I don't know, I don't know. The coach for Alabama, hey, you have fucking.
Speaker 2:Kalen DeBoer.
Speaker 1:Georgia is on your dick. Every fucking year, nick Saban had this fucking problem. They're coming for you. There's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 2:Ohio State, Kirby Smart will lose a record against Nick Saban. Again, that's Nick Saban, but again they were blowing everybody else the fuck out.
Speaker 1:What you're saying is False. It's not false. You said oh, we can win with any coach. Yes, you can. Your fucking division sucks. Your conference sucks, sucks, sucks, they suck.
Speaker 2:Okay, but this is over a 20-year period. Over that same 20-year period, Nick Saban's been at that one school.
Speaker 1:Over that same 20-year period, michigan State on several occasions was the second-best team in the division.
Speaker 2:Get the fuck out of my face. So you're just saying Bama's job is harder.
Speaker 1:Yes, the job is harder. The job is way harder. What you're saying is innately wrong. Coming from where you sit, it's wrong. Big 10 coaches kind of stick around for a long time because their job's not as hard. Make a bowl game you're not beating ohio state. A 99 of them probably have that goal. Make a bowl game you.
Speaker 2:You will not beat Ohio State there are five or six teams in the Big Ten every year that truly can think, oh, we have a chance. There are more like seven or eight or nine in the SEC on any given year that feel like they can do something.
Speaker 1:There's one team in the Big Ten of everybody's like it's a foregone conclusion they're winning the Big Ten. Just make a bowl game. Before Oregon got there and before USC got there. The rest of those teams are hey, you will not beat Ohio State, there's nothing you can do about it. It is a slow death. You are going to die. You have to just make a bowl game. Six wins and you're cool.
Speaker 2:I have more fun.
Speaker 1:Dude, I see you guys playing fucking Maryland or Rutgers. I'm like damn, that's crazy. Then I'm like damn, this is a Big Ten matchup.
Speaker 2:I've never shied away from the fact that I am in a privileged position with the team that I'm rooting for. For sure, I'm going to agree with you that coaching at Ohio State is easier than coaching at Alabama, because I think Ohio State because they're a team in a big city in a way that Bama's in the middle of goddamn nowhere that there's things about Ohio State that make it easier as a job than Bama.
Speaker 1:It makes it easier because you don't have to play anybody. Your in-conference opponents are nowhere near as good as you.
Speaker 2:You can't say that Oregon is how many?
Speaker 1:international championship winners do you have in your conference that you believe can make it back there soon? Oregon's pretty much it one in the sec. There's several who have won a national championship two or three within the last 10 years.
Speaker 2:One of that oh yeah, for sure one of them have won a national championship.
Speaker 1:I still have not scored. Michigan state still has not scored in Alabama. Yet I did not say that, I just want to make sure I put that out there. They still haven't scored yet. I know Real quick, we're the only other team besides Michigan that has gotten close enough to a national championship. That is fucking crazy. Michigan State is one of three teams in the Big Ten, excluding the new four, who has gotten close enough to smell a national championship. Penn State hasn't even licked the fucking doors.
Speaker 2:Well they have. When Last year they got to the semifinal and then, if I recall, got fucking dog walked. Uh-uh, they lost barely to Notre Dame.
Speaker 1:Them niggas lost to Notre Dame.
Speaker 2:Yeah, lost to Notre Dame last year To get to the. If they would have beaten Notre Dame last year, they would have faced Ohio State in the championship game. We would have dog walked, dude, what the fuck. It would have been worse if it was Penn State.
Speaker 1:At least Notre. Dame had a fight, you would have built the case for me, in every word you have said Notre Dame had a fight. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:You included Penn State. I have to stunt on Penn State. I have to stunt on Penn State. You're there for what? You would have kicked the shit out of Penn.
Speaker 1:State. Because you know why? I know that Because y'all kicked the shit out of Penn State three weeks ago. Yeah, three weeks before this, before the playoff, y'all kicked the shit out of Penn State.
Speaker 2:It wasn't a crazy. We didn't like blow them out. Y'all were still left. Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yes, and a lot of the points they scored were trash time points.
Speaker 2:And a pick six. We gave them.
Speaker 1:Yes, but again.
Speaker 2:Look, they kicked the shit out of them. Bama's not the same without Nick Saban. Can you agree with that? Can you agree with that part? Not the same without Nick Saban? No, it's just horrible.
Speaker 2:Okay, this turned into a much longer thing. Bryce underwood, for michigan looked okay. They were playing new mexico. They only beat them 34 to 17. It was much closer than it probably should have been, which kind of make my uh.
Speaker 2:But I never thought michigan was gonna be all that great coming into the season. But if bryce underwood comes into, if bryce underwood can progress, he is a very talented guy. I don't think they have enough weapons around him to really like accentuate. He can do well, but he can run. He has a good arm. Again, I think he can be scary by the end of the season. But that doesn't change the fact that their wide receivers are ass. But again, they couldn't throw the football more than five years on the field last year and still beat us. So I'm not going to sit here and sit on Ohio horse because we've lost them four years in a row. Again, they won't be able to fire Ryan Day because he just won a national title, but people will start going insane.
Speaker 2:But I think I've come to the conclusion that I want national titles more than beating Michigan. I think Ryan Day has proven he is a national title winning head coach. Does he have a problem Michigan? Yeah for sure. Do I think he'll fix it at some point? Yes, I think he will. But do I ever think he is going to be like Urban in Trussell, where they never lost to Michigan? Obviously that's not the case. He's already lost to them four years in a row. But I don't think I think winning a national title is more important than beating Michigan. I just, I'm just there. I'm there.
Speaker 1:I'm at that point in my life I have learned that the OSU fan base is more split on that.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, for sure, it's the young and the old. It's literally a difference between being an older person where everything was built off beating Michigan winning the Rose Bowl, that's all that mattered, that's all that mattered and the younger generation. I was like, oh, once Ohio State lost to the SEC two years in a row in the championship game and it was looked at as Ohioio state is like the team that can't beat the sec. Yeah, they did two years in a row 2005 and 2006. No, or is it 2006? 2007, two years in a row. Trussell made it. We lost two years in a row and got dog, walked once by urban and ellis in urban and um when he was coaching at florida, and won by Nick fucking Saban when he was coaching at LSU.
Speaker 1:Nick Saban left Michigan State to go to LSU.
Speaker 2:He went from Michigan State to LSU, won a national title there and then went from LSU, went to the NFL, didn't like it because you know he's better at coaching young boys than grown men and then went back to Alabama, had the reign he had, is going to go down as the best college coach of all time.
Speaker 1:Speaking of which? Speaking of former NFL coaches, bill Belichick.
Speaker 2:Awful, god fucking awful. And I'm not going to sit here and say that he's bad at coaching no, he's not, but the team is awful. They have no talent.
Speaker 1:Those Patriots game would be. We're going to let our defense do a lot of work and then let Brady throw the ball, and I was watching their offense. I'm like this offense is fucking ass. To which I then realized this motherfucker can't put together an offense. He puts together a good defense and then he had a great quarterback oh fuck. And quarterback, oh fuck. And I watched a lot of this game.
Speaker 2:And he's not a talent evaluator whatsoever Not at all. That's not what he does.
Speaker 1:Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope.
Speaker 2:And this is a time where recruiting is the biggest deal, and if you can't evaluate talent correctly, it's going to make his job a lot harder. Yeah.
Speaker 1:This is his only year he's going to be doing this.
Speaker 2:This might be. He's gone. You know what's funny? His starting quarterback is the same age. No, sorry, the backup starting quarterback the backup quarterback that came in for the starter that was awful in this game came in. He is the same age as Bill Belichick's girlfriend. How old is?
Speaker 1:his girlfriend 24.
Speaker 2:What are you doing? I was listening to something and it was like it's going to get to a point where she's going to have to start coercing him. He's like, hey, bill, if you win this game, I will blow you on the flight back home, because that's all she's there for. 24 is crazy. All the power to him, but man, it's gross, he's older than me dude, yeah, and he's in his 70 man.
Speaker 2:It's gross. He's three years older than me. Dude, yeah, and he's in his 70s. It's gross, but yeah, so it's a very. Again, I'm not going to sit here and say he can't coach. He can, but talent evaluating isn't necessarily his strong suit. In the fact that he brought in like 20-something transfers to that team. It was not a recipe for greatness. So I think they're going to be losing a lot of fucking games this year, no matter how well coached they are, because they don't have the fucking horses. Two other games and then we'll Notre Dame-Miami. Notre Dame-Miami. That game was on Sunday night. I would have been done with that by now if you wouldn't have gone on me about Ohio State. Miami beat Notre Dame 27-24. Very close game. Miami looks a lot better. Their defense looks a lot better. Notre Dame couldn't run the football whatsoever.
Speaker 1:Okay, done. What's your last game? I need you to sum up your last game in 15 words.
Speaker 2:Okay, just two more things on Miami Really good Miami. Carson Beck, their new quarterback, the guy that came up from Georgia, looked better in this game. He was looking more accurate. He has wide receivers going to be a little better and I think he still throws footballs in the spot. You know, like did you see the one catch where the wide receiver went up? That was ill-advised. He should have not thrown that ball whatsoever, but it was a great moment. It was a great moment that it happened. He's better. They have a good defense, they have a very talented team and I think with them, with Florida State looking good, I think the ACC has a lot of Georgia Tech looking good. They have a lot of good teams that are going to be duking it out to try to see who's the best in that conference. Last but not least, south Carolina Vatek Lenora Sellers might be the next. Cam Newton Can't throw Fucking great athlete Four words.
Speaker 1:Needs to get better, but he's fucking talented though I didn't see it, I did not give a fuck.
Speaker 2:All you need to do is watch clips on youtube like you see some plays out of him. He looks like fucking cam newton. He needs to get better at throwing the ball consistently. But if he does that like, people are looking at him as like a number one overall pick right now because of how crazy an athlete he is, but like when he's, when he turns it on. There's fucking something different about that guy. That's a two, two-man team. Him and the defensive end on that team are the only two players that are worth a damn on that team.
Speaker 1:One of the clips I watched was I watched the Tennessee coach, his receiver running back sort of touchdown.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 1:The receiver's blocking a guy. He's like how do you feel? And your receiver got that excited about getting a good pancake block. He was like he looked at the clip, he was like he's blocking the wrong guy, but he did it 100%, so I can't be mad. And he took his dude to the ground and that's the only clip I watched of college football. I watched some games, but I like watching obscure games. I watched the UTSA.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, by the way, Jeremiah Love, the guy that they looked at as the best running back in college football for Notre Dame. In that game they only gave him the ball 10 times. I'm just saying they look at him as such a great player, but if you're not giving him the football enough, you're not going to be the team you need to be. I just don't know what their plan is with that. But if he's that good, you've got to give him the football. That's my only thing on that. All right, I think that's it with college football for me, until we just get to the couple games later.
Speaker 1:Dallas is about to be touched and molested, NFL. Oh my God.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, NFL stories, philadelphia, najee Harris, the whole firework thing. Apparently he's on pace to start versus the Chiefs in the first game.
Speaker 1:No one has been saying if he's all right.
Speaker 2:It never came out what happened, but the only interview I saw with him he had sunglasses on. So I'm like maybe he did something to his face, but it was just some very thick sunglasses. So you don't know, you can't see what happened.
Speaker 1:But he says he's on pace to play. All that makes me feel like you can't see very well and your eyes are light sensitive.
Speaker 2:Or maybe you have an actual scar on your face or something like that, but he has all of his appendages and as long as he can see, he'll be able to play I work and hit him in the face, yeah, that's all it was. And when you're a running back, hey, that's kind of but nobody had said what truly happened, so it's like a very weird situation it was weird all off season about it.
Speaker 2:They didn't say shit, but apparently he's still their starter. They did draft the young VO, mario Hampton, for that team, so like he'll be able to like they have a good second running back, that'll probably end up being the starter at some point. But Harris will start for the team.
Speaker 1:I'm excited to see Taj Brooks, the guy we got from, I think, Iowa.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, joe.
Speaker 2:Burrow apparently really likes him, and it seems like he's much more of a receiving threat than Chase Brown is. It's just he seems like he can't catch a football. Micah Parsons, did you hear about his back stuff? Yeah, he has a back problem. Apparently they needed to give him an epidural to try to help him play for this week. Kind of a weird thing when you gave him all that money and the dude has a real back issue. For a second I was like, oh, maybe they're faking it to make to make the whole. Remember when he wasn't practicing at all during the preseason, when he was trying to get his money, saying he had a back issue. So maybe they were trying to fake it. But I'm like, if you're they're talking about giving him an epidural, there are some real issues there and like, if he has to do all this to play week one, the idea that you paid him all that money is kind of insane. Um, and then stafford good fucking game right there.
Speaker 2:Stafford, for week one apparently he'll be up to play, but he hasn't done shit all preseason because of his back issues. But he's 37, so the idea of him coming back from those are a lot more difficult than michael parsons coming back from his back issues. So again, I believe in Matt Stafford. He plays hurt all the time, but do I believe that he's going to be good to go for all season? That's going to be a big question for me. But he's going to play as much as he can. He's an Ironman. He's shown that he's willing to play through injury. But that is one of those things where I'm like, ah, I'm like not feeling all that great about it. Alright, nfl games, we have games to do. Picks for Jason already doing his picks, even though we're supposed to be talking about it and doing it. But who knows? Um, let's do the schedule. Got that there. Alright, why are you doing all your picks already? We're supposed to be a conversation. It's hard to do that when you're already writing down your picks already.
Speaker 1:This is supposed to be a conversation. It's hard to do that when you're already writing down your picks. Okay, fine, all right. Game one you have a bludgeoning Philadelphia versus Dallas.
Speaker 2:Dallas is going to win the game. Dallas is going to be without Micah Parsons, their pass rusher. It might be a little bit of a who scores 24 first, but I think Philly coming into this game.
Speaker 1:The Cowboys will score.
Speaker 2:They always do.
Speaker 1:They couldn't do it last year against Philadelphia? Yeah, but Dak will be the most healthy. He's going to be starting off the season they always do.
Speaker 2:They couldn't do it last year against Philadelphia. Yeah, but Dak will be the most healthy. He's going to be starting off the season. Right on from 65. I think, philly coming out, they're going to be unveiling their championship banner.
Speaker 1:I'm going to pick Philadelphia to win the game. Something's, something Jerry Jones will not see To the end of his life.
Speaker 2:Well, he saw one already, but he's not going to see a new one.
Speaker 1:Nah, I already wrote down Philadelphia.
Speaker 2:But yeah, philly is going to win this game. It's not going to be much of an issue.
Speaker 1:Alright, we have the Kansas City In charge is in Brazil.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take Kansas City.
Speaker 1:I knew it, I should have wrote that one down. I had you guess on Kansas City too.
Speaker 2:Look, man, I just think Kansas City coming into this game without Rasheed Rice because he's suspended for the first six games of the season.
Speaker 1:I have nothing to say to you besides that team is getting worse.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but do I believe in Harbaugh?
Speaker 1:and.
Speaker 2:Jay Herbo to win this game.
Speaker 1:I do More than I believe in what's left of the Kansas City team.
Speaker 2:Again, I haven't seen it yet. Maybe I'll see it at some point, but until I see it I'm just going to have to believe in Kansas City winning that game, because I think Mahomes in his career so far, in his eight-year career, has only lost to teams in his own division like five times. They dominate that division. I think they'll win the game.
Speaker 1:All right, you have Tampa Bay and Atlanta.
Speaker 2:Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1:See, this is where I say it's a little. This is a pretty good game, right. The Falcons have pretty good defense.
Speaker 2:They have two new pass rushers, so hopefully they'll be able to kind of.
Speaker 1:They have a really good secondary, but it's their quarterback play. That's new, because you're going in with he played six games last year, but True, but again.
Speaker 2:The question is will he take that year two bump, which is what you're talking about with Michael Penix?
Speaker 1:There it is and, in all honesty, I know what Tampa Bay is.
Speaker 2:They have a great receiving core. I think this is going to be a close game.
Speaker 1:I believe it is, but I just tampa bay has the edge of this.
Speaker 2:Team is done and they know what they're doing. They're veteran, I think, baker.
Speaker 1:Baker is more than under my respect over the last few years of his career, especially in tampa dude, last year I could not get you to pick tampa bay, uh, and I was like nah, that boy baker is like again and I think emekauka is going to have a coming out party. I believe he's going to become the number one receiver on that team. He's going to destroy it. Chris Godwin is coming off a very big injury and Mike Evans is.
Speaker 2:Mike Evans is still Mike Evans. He's going to be the number one guy. He is slowly on the decline. Oh yeah, for make that play for him and get the last few yards.
Speaker 1:So you can see he's steadily coming down from that.
Speaker 2:But he's going to get so much attention it'll only open it up for Emeka.
Speaker 1:Which is what I'm saying, which is why I think, which is why I picked him up for fantasy.
Speaker 2:I'm like he's going to eat. He's going to eat. He was there.
Speaker 1:I love Mecca, I love me, I want to see him do it, I was like he's going to fit great in my flex.
Speaker 2:He's going to do so many good things in the NFL, I'm happy to see him go off and do great things. He changes number to number two Once they're back in. Quarterback Kyle Trask got dropped. He's like let me go ahead and take that number two that he had at Ohio State. So yeah, tampa Bay is going to win that game. It's going to be very close. I wouldn't be surprised if Atlanta wins. You know Tampa Bay is only a one and a half point favorite, so it's going to be a close game.
Speaker 1:This is probably the best game.
Speaker 2:And I think, even though we don't know what Michael Panik is going to be for sure, I think he's going to be good, he throws a beautiful ball and, I think, be the guy going into the year, there's nothing. You know what's funny? We haven't heard nothing from old boy.
Speaker 1:Um kurt cousins, he's gonna be sitting on the bench in uniform and I'm like, ah, motherfucker, he's guaranteed and I can't. He, he's a fucking contract merchant. He is that boy played on the franchise tag. In was for three years.
Speaker 2:I'm getting how much guaranteed Fuck yeah boy, he risked it every time and that boy made bank. He is a Hall of Famer in the bank account Dude, but as a player he is not.
Speaker 1:Dude, I don't give a fuck what anybody says. He is a contract merchant.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:I am paid in spades. I know you don't spend no fucking money, neither that boy probably has a fucking portfolio. He is probably rich rich. He's not normal rich he is rich.
Speaker 2:You know it's funny, I could. I could have that mentality, just like you. But then I watched the quarterback show and taught and sat. He sat there and was like I felt like I was misled. And as soon as he says that, I'm like I lose all respect for the money side Because I'm like this dude just wants to play football. He wants to be the cooler white guy that can throw a football around. And guess what he can't do. He has to go home and throw with his kids Because he won't be doing it on game day. So again, he'll be there ready to go if something happens to Penix.
Speaker 1:But as long as Penix is healthy, he's good to go. All I can remember from the show is Jared Goff's wife. She's fine.
Speaker 2:And not all that smart. She's an idiot, but she has a smoke show and that show knew it. They were like, hey, every time.
Speaker 1:Fucking. Jared Goff knew it.
Speaker 2:I think she was the most shown in that show other than the quarterbacks, no dude.
Speaker 1:Other than was the most show quick. I love jared golf, that dude, he's a great fucking guy. And bro, get on you. Bro, you could be. You could have sucked your whole quarterback career you won life, he won, you won fuck, I don't get fucked with anybody. My nigga, you won. Uh, your life is elite. You are a tall six foot four white guy and you get to throw the football around and go home.
Speaker 2:He has to have some type personality because he's decently looking, he is. He's a good la type, la type of look. When he came out real quick, when he came out of college clean cut, clean cut, clean cut, for sure.
Speaker 1:And he got a little older you know?
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's getting a little gruff.
Speaker 1:And that's cool.
Speaker 2:Playing NFL. That happens.
Speaker 1:But, again you married her.
Speaker 2:You bro Insane, good on you, good on you.
Speaker 1:Your quarterback play could never be anything to speak of but my nigga.
Speaker 2:You know what? He's? A top 10 quarterback. He is Not only when it comes to actually playing the games with who he has with him. It's all good, he's my guy.
Speaker 1:The game is good.
Speaker 2:He's not smart though.
Speaker 1:At all. And Jared Goff, don't give me Jared.
Speaker 2:Goff, don't give a fuck, it's all good.
Speaker 1:It's all good in the neighborhood, it's all good, I'm like oh, His mom probably don't like her at all, but his dad's like my boy.
Speaker 2:Hey, I do what you got to do I got to respect it.
Speaker 1:I respect it Great and grind boy.
Speaker 2:Good for him.
Speaker 1:Cincinnati and Cleveland.
Speaker 2:It'd be so funny to pick Cleveland. Cleveland. It'd be so funny to pick Cleveland.
Speaker 1:Dude, but there is a part of me that has a fear that we are going to lose to Cleveland.
Speaker 2:I don't blame you.
Speaker 1:I don't blame you, but in reality we should stomp the fuck out of Cleveland, right?
Speaker 2:You should. It should not be close.
Speaker 1:Miles Garrett preys on the bank.
Speaker 2:And Jamar Chase is going to have a little bit of a struggle Because it's Denzel. Ward, because it's Denzel Ward. That's the dude. There's no one over there. There's nobody over there. They're no more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're not wrong, so who the fuck else there's?
Speaker 2:Miles Garrett and Denzel Ward and the rest of that team is cheats. Yeah, miles Garrett could go crazy.
Speaker 1:That offensive line is a little bit iffy. That's the thing. He's going to get five sacks in this game and still lose somehow.
Speaker 2:I sure hope so. I'm picking Cincinnati, dude. I already wrote it down I'm picking Cincinnati, but I'm fucking scared. I'm not going to lie to you, not only for Cincinnati, for Joe Burrow, but I know you're going to be ready to kill yourself and I'm going to have to be looking for a letter because if something happens again, I don't know. Again, you should win the game. You should win the game. No jokes aside, you should win the game. You should, you should.
Speaker 2:But if we don't, yeah you should win the game, bro indiana you keep calling that's like the one, that's like the one growing bit that is gone. Ever since you started on this podcast, you only ever call them indiana. It's indianapolis, it's the colts, but you just say indiana like they're the freaking hoosiers. I do know, but it's not Indiana, it's.
Speaker 1:Indianapolis, you will never get that respect.
Speaker 2:Man, they have Daniel Jones, bro, that's so scary.
Speaker 1:It's Miami. You have to pick Miami.
Speaker 2:Do you?
Speaker 1:Do you trust Indiana?
Speaker 2:That's the problem. There it is. It's Miami. Indianapolis is actually a talented team, though that's the only problem. And Daniel Jones With that boy, danny Dodd, on the ball.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, pick that team.
Speaker 2:He can run an offense Pick them, then pick them.
Speaker 1:That boy lost his job to Danny DeVito. Pick him.
Speaker 2:He didn't lose the job, they just didn't want to pay him no more. But Miami is awful.
Speaker 1:They ain't even on the team, no more.
Speaker 2:Miami didn't even make Tyreek Hill. I'm going to take Indianapolis. Fuck it, I'm going to take Indianapolis. I just think Miami their defense is awful.
Speaker 1:I would take New England. Man LA could make that a very good game. Indianapolis, I just think Miami, their defense is awful.
Speaker 2:Patriots. It's Patriots here. I would take New England man LA could make that a very good game Rangers really no. They're going to be able to run the football and I think Geno is going to be able to. Geno is a good player. Geno can play Again. I'm not the biggest believer in Geno, but I think he's a good player that can play the position Again. They just don't have a lot defensively.
Speaker 1:And Stephon Diggs will be healthy. They have Max Crosby and Max Crosby, and that's it.
Speaker 2:They do, they have potentially the number one tight end in the NFL.
Speaker 1:He's the number one tight end in the NFL. He is, and he is very, very good, Real quick. He plays tight end so little. Go put Christian Gonzalez on his ass, Because you cannot.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take New England, but I think the Vegas really could make that a very close game.
Speaker 1:Saints or Arizona.
Speaker 2:Arizona. Really yeah All right, you picked the Saints. I did how, how, how, how. I need to know. What reason do you have? I really hate Tyler Murray and don't think he's that good of a quarterback. Do you know who the starting quarterback is going to be for this team? I don't really want to know.
Speaker 1:It's Mr Shuck, dude, tyler Shuck, and do the Cardinals have somebody on defense that can really make it to where it's a problem?
Speaker 2:Oh, no, no, no, no, I'm wrong. The starting quarterback is Spencer Rattler. Fuck, it's not even Tyler Shuck, it's Spencer Rattler. I'll take Arizona and plus I think Marv's going to have a coming out party. They don't have a corner that can stop Marv, and I think Marv put on a bunch of muscle I see I've seen a bunch of pictures. I think he's gonna add a little bit of explosion on top of what he already is and I think another offseason with him and Kyler Murray together they'll have. They'll be a little bit more in sync and I think Marvin will eat this year.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna pick Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2:I'm going to pick Pittsburgh. I'm picking Pittsburgh because I think the offensive line will be able to Apparently New York Jets Elijah Vera Tucker I think their left tackle Torres Peck down for the season. Also, I love Justin Fields. He's awesome, but apparently he's been struggling to throw the football in camp.
Speaker 1:I've been feeling sure about him in camp so I'm not sure they're saying he's awesome, but apparently he's been struggling to throw the football in camp.
Speaker 2:No one's been feeling sure about him in camp so I'm not sure they're saying he's up and down and I'm sitting there like man.
Speaker 1:They're giving him everything and that's why I took Pittsburgh, because again, but he can run all over the place.
Speaker 2:Though he makes so many plays, he can run all over the place on the fucking Steelers.
Speaker 1:There's nowhere.
Speaker 2:We have team speed now, like we actually have Some real team speed.
Speaker 1:Don't want to be out of the pocket With the Steelers Cause I don't want to be Anywhere near TJ Watt or fucking whoever else On the other side. Whatever nigga's on the other side, whoever it is, I don't want to be there.
Speaker 2:And there's no right, alex Highsmith.
Speaker 1:Again. Whoever's on the other side Right now Is coming to get you and, unfortunately, if it's the one nigga that they send in for three plays, you're fumbling that bitch and he's recovering it. Nick Herbig is who it is. They throw the nigga for three plays. He makes the three biggest plays of the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's awesome.
Speaker 1:Fuck back down. Yeah, no question and I swear to God, you have Patrick Queen and Peyton Wilson, peyton Wilson. I don't want either of those niggas To hit me, especially not Wilson, because he's a fucking crazy person. He played again in preseason.
Speaker 2:And he's very fast that motherfucker is a.
Speaker 1:He is a running back's Worst nightmare. There is nowhere to go when he's on the field. Yeah, no question he may not be great in coverage, but what rookie linebacker was.
Speaker 2:Right, but dude, any running back that was he is so fast. Yep.
Speaker 1:Again, coverage is something that comes with linebackers. Yeah, I think it's better in the NFL. Yeah, for sure, but dude, he is a run, he devours the run. Yep, so I took the picture.
Speaker 2:I think Garrett Wilson is going to get his. I think they're going to do that, but I just don't think it'll be consistent enough. It won't be game will have a point to prove, like to say, hey, I'm still got a little something left in the tank. Do I think he's gonna like be like superstar from game one? Probably not, but I do think he'll have enough to kind of show out in this game and show why pittsburgh um should be one of the better teams in the nfl.
Speaker 2:it maybe not the best teams nfl but one of the better top half of the nfl. Playoff worthy next game new New York at Washington, New York Giants at Washington. I'm going to go ahead and take Washington because I already wrote it down bro. You know Washington defense is going to take a step back. They didn't really add a lot to that defensive side of the ball Will it matter?
Speaker 1:But, Malik Nabors is going to get his yeah, but Malik Nabors is going to get his yeah.
Speaker 2:Malik Nabors is going to get his, he'll do what he does.
Speaker 1:Who else are you scared of, jalen Hyatt? Nope, mr, drop the ball and end zone.
Speaker 2:It was so funny because Russell Wilson said that everybody's going to know Jalen Hyatt's name by the end of the year this year and I'm like he's had five years to try to figure that out and he hasn't done it yet. I don't know what this year's going to change. Hyatt doesn't know football and can't catch the football to save his goddamn life.
Speaker 1:I watched him drop a touchdown at Breezy's.
Speaker 2:Get out of here, get out of here, get out of here.
Speaker 1:So no, all right, carolina or Jacksonville, because I can't truly foresee it. I can see there's a way for you to do it, because your team's going to be better. Yeah, no, for sure your team's going to be like four wins better.
Speaker 2:I think Ted McMillan will be able to make some plays.
Speaker 1:I think he will too. I think I was wrong about him coming out.
Speaker 2:No, I think I was right. I think should he have been a top 10 pick? Probably not.
Speaker 1:No, but, but he's a physically talented receiver. And again I was like this nigga's just big. He's done the fuck to Drake London Got the fuck out of my face. I hate big ass receivers that can't do shit, which is I watched his fucking highlight clip. It was you were on a corner, that was on. You was like 5'10". You were 6'5". Shit's not impressive.
Speaker 2:You're not fast, you don't run good routes.
Speaker 1:You are tall.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And played for fucking Arizona. Get the fuck out of my face. But again, I watched him in preseason. He looked pretty good, cool, my bad.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I think Jacksonville have to pick them. They have a little bit more. Not to mention, do I want to hear the travis hunter hype? No, because he's going to have five catches for 87 yards and then, defensively he's going to have three pass breakups and everybody's going to come all over themselves as to how great of a player he is and I'm like, well, he was the slot corner on the defense and then he was the slot wide receiver on the other side. Like he's not brian robson jr, I'm sitting here like there's better guys doing what he's doing. Maybe I, I just I don't, I don't want to. I definitely don't want to hear the travis hunter like it's okay, bro, it's okay.
Speaker 1:Truthers, wait till wait till week three oh you're too small to go cover ilia sovis you're too small to go? Cover t higgins, bring your ass over here and show everybody you're the number one corner you meant to be.
Speaker 2:They're not going to do it.
Speaker 1:Jamar Chase going toward it because they know they know better. Yeah, for sure they know better. You're not fucking, chris Gonzalez.
Speaker 2:They're not only going to put him in like positions where he's not covering the wide receiver one a lot. They're going to limit his snaps. He's not going to be covering the best wide receiver. He's not going to be like. He's going to make his plays on offense and be an okay receiver.
Speaker 1:There is no receiver on the Bengals he can cover. I don't give a fuck. I dare your ass to go over there with T Higgins. You aren't as good as Joey Porter Jr. I don't give a fuck what you talk about. Joey Porter Jr is a better db than you. I far fucking believe that. I believe you are an athletic specimen who doesn't have that good of skills on offense or defense. I think you're too fucking small. You look a lot like emmanuel forbes to me.
Speaker 2:I'm just fucking saying even though it's not that far off.
Speaker 1:It sounds mean hearing it out loud I don't think he's all that fucking good he, he's not that big, he's not really big. Anybody who was tough, you didn't play. Anybody who was that fucking good, that's true. Welcome to Cincinnati. Bitch, you about to deal with some shit.
Speaker 2:Oh man, You're going to be talking your stuff when that game happens.
Speaker 1:Welcome to Cincinnati. You want to feel some shit? We show you some shit. I promise you any receiver. You want to fucking cover, I am for it. I hope they highlight your ass every fucking play.
Speaker 2:Well, think about it With the teams. They're going to face their own division. They got to face Houston. I think Tennessee is a struggle, but they still have a couple wide receivers.
Speaker 1:You have to be scared of Nico Collins is going to beat his ass.
Speaker 2:He's not going to touch Nico Collins, he's never gonna be near nico collins.
Speaker 1:Nico collins will eat his lunch and stuff him in a locker. Bro, there's nothing. Nico collins got four, two speed on a on a six foot three frame. No, that is not the dude. You want him fucking with him and cj shot together.
Speaker 2:They know exactly what each other are thinking. Cj is gonna make make travis hunter look stupid. Not gonna happen. He's not gonna be near him. Um, he's gonna have to be Like Teams in his own division.
Speaker 1:Yeah, number one.
Speaker 2:And guess what he showed out? When he got his opportunity, he showed the fuck out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's my job for the day. That's my job for the day. Go the fuck out. Yeah, Dude Patrick's retained. You know what he does. I'm going to go get number one receiver.
Speaker 2:That's my job for the day. That's my award number one receiver, that's my guy, that's my job for the day that is what a number one corner on a team.
Speaker 1:Does I go get the best guy on the field?
Speaker 2:Right. I think Travis is wasting his time. I think he has the better, he has better Good corner, being a great corner that he does, being a great wide receiver. But he's going to fuck around and do this for three years and then change to one position and I'm like you could have spent that time. You're so behind now. You could have spent that time just worrying on one position and being that dude, but he's going to fuck around with this. They're going to let him and then finally make the decision for him by the time he wants to get paid his first big contract, because guess what, they're not gonna pay you. Like your wide receiver and corner put together.
Speaker 1:They're just not they're never gonna do it.
Speaker 2:They're gonna pay you corner money because that's cheaper they're gonna pay you corner money or wide receiver money. They're not gonna give you both because they'll never have the number one wide receiver numbers not with that as a thing.
Speaker 1:Once they give you both, they're gonna make you play one but guess, guess what they give you one or the other. You have to play one or the other.
Speaker 2:It doesn't make sense to be for him to try to be paid like a receiver, because guess what we have? We have brian robson jr. We don't fucking need you to be our number one receiver. Go play db. Go play db this is.
Speaker 1:I promise you, I wouldn't doubt if this is a show for like the first two or three weeks and then by week four or five, they're like hey, you're a db it'll last a season, I think it will?
Speaker 2:I fucking hope not because jacksville needs to be able to say without a shadow of a doubt they gave him an opportunity. Because everybody will cry and say, oh, you took what made him special away. Because he doesn't play both it. Guess what?
Speaker 2:the real world exists, guys, you, this is not can't do it the best athletes that have ever lived can't do it at that pace. Deon fucking Sanders, who's looked at as the best athlete of all time, played both pro baseball and pro football, and he could play wide receiver and DB, but guess what they didn't use him like that because, guess what, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1:Because Deion is one of the few where he is an anomaly of. He was able to do both for a very long time. But guys like Bo Jackson, where he played baseball and football, he only played like nine years yeah, because it took a toll on his body. Again, he played running back. That's a little fucking different.
Speaker 2:Little different, just a little.
Speaker 1:But again, he was a supreme athlete, that was able to do both for so long. But again it takes a toll on your body. Travis Hunter's body can't fucking do.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:You don't have the frame for it? Exactly, I can't stand Travis Hunter. I don't think I never thought he was that fucking good.
Speaker 2:I just can't deal with the Travis Hunter hype. No, that's what I can't deal with.
Speaker 1:I don't think he's that fucking good. This nigga played at an HBCU for two years and it came over to fucking the Mountain West.
Speaker 2:Not Mountain West. They were in the Big 12. Who gives a fuck? They weren't facing the best wide receivers there. You're not even facing the best at Not even the best DBs. In fact, John Nickers was struggling with Colorado. Well, he was at Colorado, Colorado State.
Speaker 1:Again, that was the best team you fucking played all year. Get the fuck out of my face.
Speaker 2:Get the fuck out of my face. I think it'll be a rude awakening. I don't think it'll go as well as everybody's thinking. Joe Burrow's gonna put that ball. Yeah, I totally agree. Next game Tennessee at Denver. Denver, Denver is going to get the win. Bo Nix is going to make some cool plays. It's like, oh, Bo Nix is so awesome, Wah wah, wah, wah and. I'm like he's just throwing five yards down the field. What are we doing? I?
Speaker 1:hate so many players, but I like Bo Nix and it pisses me off too, Dude, I hate so many motherfuckers but I like Bo Nix and it frustrates the fuck out of me.
Speaker 2:That's the one I don't like, Dude that's the one you don't like.
Speaker 1:Bo Nix is a great dude. I like him. I can't do it.
Speaker 2:I can't do it. Denver's going to win Much better team.
Speaker 1:Seattle. Yeah, this one's weird, it's gross.
Speaker 2:See, san Fran is weird, it was gross. See, san fran is a two and a half point favorite in seattle, which makes me scared because I'm like what it feels like they're trying to bait me into picking seattle, but when I think about it, like I want to pick seattle, who'd you pick?
Speaker 1:I think Seattle Mostly because that San Fran team is a skeleton.
Speaker 2:But Christian McCaffrey's healthy, george Kittle's healthy, I don't. Is Christian, yeah, they're saying he's a full go and ready to go, like they're saying he looks awesome again. And now I'm sitting here like Pick him, pick him. No, I want to pick Seattle.
Speaker 1:Pick him, no, pick San Fran. You want to? No, I don't Go ahead, you and Jawan Jennings Go ahead and pick him. Who's the number one receiver? Because Jawan Jennings still ain't paid. They don't have a number one receiver. My bad, george.
Speaker 2:Hale yeah.
Speaker 1:That's the number one receiver. Tight end and and they're replacing a lot.
Speaker 2:On defense, I'm going to take Seattle. You're not wrong. Hufanga's gone. No, both of them went to Denver, green Law and Hufanga went to Denver.
Speaker 1:I know why are they struggling with Denver Denver's going to be good.
Speaker 2:It's just Seattle. Will Seattle be able to protect?
Speaker 1:Oh fuck no, oh fuck no. Will they be able to protect Sam? Oh fuck no, oh fuck no.
Speaker 2:Will they be able to protect Sam Darnold? Oh no, that's my only question. If he has a clean pocket, him and JSN are going to fucking eat.
Speaker 1:But again, here's the thing who can stop JSN and do they have other weapons that you can?
Speaker 2:They do have Kenneth Walker. They do, but again, all they have to worry about is George Kittle and CMC. True, and their defense should be okay.
Speaker 1:They sent a really fast linebacker out there and then stuff the fucking box.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, you're not wrong Give him nowhere to go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you only got two threats. One of them is tight ends. It's not like he's a receiver. He's quick, but he's not JSN fast.
Speaker 2:Right, he's quick, but he's not JSN fast Right.
Speaker 1:So again, alright, now you have Green Bay and Detroit. I pick Detroit, fucking easy.
Speaker 2:Their, their nice little star Pass rusher May not even play. I think Detroit Is gonna come out and run the football Like crazy. I think they're gonna Prove a point. I think their defense Will be better. They may not be. I think talent wise they will be better. I'm not sure if their scheme will actually be better because they are replacing the defense coordinator.
Speaker 1:I think it will look better. I think, offensively, a whole lot won't change. I don't think it will be as creative but again with the star player they have on offense. You don't have to be super creative yeah, no, for sure.
Speaker 2:I just think Jared Goff, ammar Hussain Brown, they're going to go out there and want to make a point and I think they'll go out there and play very well. Not to mention who knows what Jordan Love's going to show up in game one. Who knows? It could be the guy throwing three picks, it could be the guy throwing 400 yards, who knows?
Speaker 1:Now, this is the only game I didn't pick Houston and LA Rams. It's very, very hard for me to pick because they're going to Los Angeles. Now my is what the fuck is wrong with Matthew Stafford?
Speaker 2:They're saying he's ready to go.
Speaker 1:I know, but he ain't practiced at all. Matthew Stafford's a cold-blooded killer. I believe him. Oh no, He'd come out here cool.
Speaker 2:I don't doubt he doesn't need the reps. He's played so long in the NFL, he knows the offense.
Speaker 1:I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 2:He could do it in his fucking sleep Exactly, but that Houston defense is going to be scary, but who can stop Jared Verz? But, jared, yeah, that Houston offensive line is totally rebuilt. They are really patchworking that thing together.
Speaker 1:And that Rams defense isn't elite.
Speaker 2:But they have some playmakers Jared Verz is the main guy and they're good. But can my question is the Rams? They do have Devontae Adams coming in. They still have Pukunukua. They have a lot of great pieces offensively, kyron Williams, the running back. But that Houston defensive line is very good.
Speaker 1:It's very, very good, but again, this game is much more.
Speaker 2:Willie Anderson is going to eat.
Speaker 1:It's much more of a toss-up than everybody wants to make it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, la Rams three and a half point favorite.
Speaker 1:Personally, I only think they're a three and a half point favorite because they're at home.
Speaker 2:Yeah, usually if you're at home, it's worth like three points, yeah.
Speaker 1:They're really only like .5.
Speaker 2:Really a half point favorite? Yeah for sure. Um, I'm gonna pick houston, so you're gonna take that from me. I'm gonna take houston as well. I think that team, I think cj stroud will, that they will have that offense humming enough and then I think they'll be able to do enough with the offensive line, move the pocket a little bit, have a little bit better plan. They don't they do have their running back. Position is going to be a little iffy because, uh, why am I forgetting the running back's name? Mixon isn't playing to start. I think he's starting the year on IR, so he's going to be out for the least the first four weeks of the season. So that is a little bit iffy, but I think they'll have a good enough plan to go into the game. This is a weird pick. I probably should pick the Rams, but this game very close. I think CJ will be able to make enough plays with that offense to be able to go in with him and Nico. They're magic together. So I'll go ahead and pick Houston In CJ, I trust forever.
Speaker 1:Buffalo and Baltimore oh this game. At Buffalo.
Speaker 2:At Buffalo.
Speaker 1:At Buffalo.
Speaker 2:Do you know? The last two years the Ravens have had to face the team they lost to in the playoffs At their place. Last year they had to face the Kansas City Chiefs at Kansas City First game of the year this year. Coming off losing to Buffalo last year in the playoffs, they now have to go to Buffalo again. They kind of keep screwing the Ravens over. They don't care.
Speaker 1:That's what you get for not doing shit.
Speaker 2:That's what you get for not doing shit. That's true. If you won the Super Bowl, you'd be playing at home for sure, unless you're Kansas City and they keep getting all these Brazil games with the Chargers, which is crazy. That they've done that two years in a row, that those two same teams have gone to the whatever. I don't know. I'm guessing you'd pick Baltimore, you'd pick Buffalo. This is a very tough game for me because I think last year, when they played because they played twice last year Baltimore destroyed Buffalo the first time. Then Buffalo came back and beat them in the playoffs. I think Buffalo's defense is going to be pretty good. I think it's going to be pretty good, just like they were last year. I think Baltimore they always come out hot, though that's the only problem is going to be pretty good. I think it's going to be pretty good, just like they were last year. I think Baltimore they always come out hot, though that's the only problem. I'm going to take Buffalo. I think Buffalo will be able to kind of do some things, especially first game of the season. They're going to come out hot. I think Baltimore always takes a minute to kind of get into their rhythm offensively. So I'll take Buffalo. All right.
Speaker 2:Last game, the Monday night game Minnesota at Chicago. I don't know what to fucking do with this game. Minnesota's breaking in a brand-new quarterback in JJ McCarthy, who hasn't played in over a year. Chicago brand-new offense All the coaches talked about is how bad Caleb Williams has been. Is that just a smokescreen? And he's doing great. I don't know. We only saw him play one drive in the preseason. I'm going to take Minnesota because that defense is better and I think, even if JJ McCarthy doesn't play great, he just has to get the ball to.
Speaker 1:Jay Jetta's. Let him do his things. So many weapons on offense and I'm like all he has to do is just not fuck this up and the Minnesota defense is good and I think they'll be able to.
Speaker 2:Even if Chicago is probably a better running team from day one. I think the Minnesota defense will be able to make things harder on Chicago, and again I do. I believe that Chicago has the running game right away to kind of help them the way they need to. Probably not, especially with them not having the weapons. At running back they still have Swift, but outside of him they really don't have anybody else.
Speaker 1:So I'm going to take Minnesota. Swift was bad on the Eagles. I don't think he's ever going to be good.
Speaker 2:He's fine, but he's not special by any means. And I think, ben johnson, what he was doing in in detroit was he had two. He had one very special running back in a very, very good running back two. He probably should be a starter in most scenarios but they he's number running back two in detroit. So I think they don't have that type of running back talent to kind of keep the running game going. And I I think Minnesota's defense is going to make it hard enough on Caleb to where I'll pick Minnesota to win that game. Same Okay. So we went through all the NFL games, made our picks there.
Speaker 1:We split one game.
Speaker 2:We split one game. Mm-hmm, I'm not going to go back and try to fix it, I'm just going to go. I'm not going to go back and try to fix it, I'm just going to go with it. Go with my gut.
Speaker 1:Okay, man.
Speaker 2:Alright, I just want to Just like a couple games Of the college football. Just talk about real quick, like five minutes tops. Illinois plays Duke. Will Illinois be able to Kind of like keep their thing going? I'll just talk about real quick, like five minutes tops. Illinois plays Duke. Will Illinois be able to kind of like keep their thing going? They're looked at as one of the better teams in college football. Can they get the job done? Duke has a very talented quarterback. They're paying like $6 million to the quarterback that's playing at Duke Kind of overpaying, but you know it is what it is.
Speaker 2:Let's see here what was the other game you said ohio is playing grambling. That should be fun. Blow out. You have ole miss playing kentucky. Ole miss did lose to kentucky last year. Ole miss didn't necessarily look great in their first game of their season. Can they come out against the conference opponent and win that game and make up for what happened last year? Um, next you got. Let's see utah cal, miami. Then LSU is, oh, michigan, oklahoma, michigan going to Oklahoma. There'll be a night game. Um, they have a.
Speaker 2:Obviously Michigan is coming in with their very young quarterback and Bryce Underwood. Will he be able to kind of live up to the big moment playing against the Oklahoma team. Their defense like is always going to be pretty good. Their offense they do have their own quarterback. I think John Mateer is their quarterback they have in that game. He's played a lot of football.
Speaker 2:Oklahoma didn't necessarily look great last week. Will they be able to put it together, be able to play against a Michigan team that is not necessarily the most explosive, but they do have a very young and talented quarterback. Will they be able to take advantage of that moment is probably the bigger question. I will probably pick Oklahoma to win that game, especially with them being at home. And then that's it Bama. They have to play Yale-Monroe. They should win the game but, coming off of how they looked last week, will the team? The biggest thing about Bama from last week is that their team lacked effort. They had like 14 missed tackles, which is like crazy high number for a football game.
Speaker 2:Will the team give up on DeBoer and make this game look close in a way that it probably shouldn't? That is my issue with them. They should win this game. Going away should not even be close, but if the team start keeps giving up on DeBoer it could get ugly and even if they win the game, if it is kind of too close to the fan, the crazy fanfare about getting rid of DeBoer will only get hotter as the season goes along. So that's about it.
Speaker 2:Oh, arizona State, mississippi and Mississippi State are playing each other um Big 12 against SEC. I think Arizona State might have a few issues with Mississippi State. They're not the most talented team. Mississippi State is not, but I think Arizona State, if they don't take mississippi state seriously, they could get burned and that's about it on that. So those not really a lot of crazy games going in cost ball week two gonna be a lot of cupcakes going on against big boys. Hopefully our teams can kind of take advantage and do what they have to do in the second week of the season get better um, fix the issues that they have in order to get ready for the bigger games that are coming down the road, and that's about it.
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