JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
Football Weekend Recap: Breaking Down Week 2 College Football and NFL Week 1 Action
Football fever is back in full swing as we dive deep into a jam-packed weekend of gridiron action! This episode breaks down all the highlights, lowlights, and everything in between from Week 2 of college football and the NFL's explosive season openers.
The college landscape delivered some fascinating storylines – from Ohio State's complete domination to South Florida's stunning upset over Florida. We dissect how top programs like Georgia, Penn State, and Clemson showed concerning signs despite victories, and celebrate Michigan State's thrilling double-overtime win against Boston College.
Our NFL coverage is where things really heat up. The Eagles-Cowboys rivalry added another controversial chapter with the spitting incident between Dak Prescott and Jalen Carter. Justin Herbert and the Chargers made a statement in Brazil by taking down the mighty Chiefs, while Josh Allen led the Bills to an improbable comeback victory against the Ravens in what might be the game of the year.
We don't just recap scores – we analyze the offensive line struggles plaguing the Bengals, debate whether the Chiefs' secondary will be their downfall, and evaluate quarterback performances from Caleb Williams and JJ McCarthy. Plus, we offer our picks for the upcoming Thursday night showdown between the Packers and Commanders.
Whether you're a college football die-hard, NFL fanatic, or just love passionate sports talk, this episode delivers the perfect blend of analysis, banter, and football knowledge to get you through your week. Join us as we break down what Week 1 really tells us about the season ahead!
Welcome back to this podcast. Today is Tuesday, September the 9th. We're back on the podcast.
Speaker 2:We're back. It is Tuesday. We have this is so, for anybody that hasn't been listening for a while, if you're just now joining on, this is the recap pod, where we pretty much go through and recap all the football and stuff that happened from the weekend before and with that we have plenty of stuff to talk about. With it being week two of the yeah, week two of the college football season and then week one of the NFL season, so with that there's plenty to talk about and plenty of because I honestly think it was a college side, it was a little bit. It was a little bit weird. We didn't have a lot of like big marquee games, but some crazy things did happen. And on the nfl side wasn't a crazy amount of marquee games, but we did have some madness happen, games that were come down to the wire. So we'll be talking about all of that and more on the pod here.
Speaker 2:So let's go ahead and get this thing started. Um, we'll start with the college stuff to kind of get it out of the way. Um, let's just start with the ohio state grambling game. Get it like, get it, get it there and done what wasn't a lot to talk about, how state rolled grambling 70 to nothing. Game wasn't closed. Julian sand, the quarterback, they just kind of let him throw the football all over the place. I think he completely like the first 16 passes he uh attempted and then, on like the 17th, he threw a pick. It was a bad pick, shouldn't have thrown it, but like other than that he was pretty much had a flawless day 18 and 19, 306, four touchdowns. Um, jeremiah smith had a couple five receptions, 119 yards, two touchdowns. So it was a day of getting everybody involved. Not only I think the starters didn't even play like into the second half, so it was third and fourth strings playing there in the second half. That for me even though there's a lot of people out there that want to watch, just you know, a bunch of backups going in play but for me, being a guy that follows recruiting and stuff like that, to be able to watch like a lot of those young guys that maybe don't have starting jobs yet come in play some valuable minutes very good thing. Had a lot of fun doing it.
Speaker 2:Especially, I just have to mention this guy, bo jackson. He's like the third string running running back for the squad. His name is lamar bo jackson and it's like the third string running back for the squad. His name is Lamar Bo Jackson, and it's like the most fun name of all time, especially football. As a running back, he has a lot of juice. He had nine carries, 108 yards and a touchdown. He should have had a second touchdown, but he fumbled on the goal line. Didn't go to the other team though, but it could have gone that way, and they kind of took him off off the field.
Speaker 2:I do have to give some credit to Ryan Day. He's kind of turning a Nick Saban, because even in a win where they're like, kind of like they're dominating something, is something as like simple and harmless at that point as Bo Jackson fumbling right there at the goal line. He's coaching him as if you, you're losing a game that really matters. So it was a very nice thing to see that with the championship, ryan Day has it's kind of turned him into like a. He almost seems like a different individual. He kind of just seems like he's more assured of himself in a way that he wasn't before. So very good game, a lot of fun watching the backups go ahead and do their thing, but that's pretty much it. Next thing Penn State, florida this. This is like a group of teams that are like all, like kind of like top squads that have not. Are you trying to guess my phone? What are you doing?
Speaker 1:I don't know what, like what numbers would have significant meaning to you that's probably a good thing.
Speaker 2:That means you can't guess my phone, my iPad. Is it a four? Digit yeah obviously it's four pin.
Speaker 1:Is it the same as your card pin number?
Speaker 2:No, that's like the one thing you don't want to do. Dang Shade Shade.
Speaker 1:I don't know. My bad, my bad. I have nothing important to say. Continue on.
Speaker 2:Group of teams that were playing lower tier competition but got the job done, even though it may not have looked great. Penn state beat fiu 34 to nothing. It was pretty close during the first half they going into halftime they were up 10 nothing kind of turn it on in the second half to make it a little look a little better. But penn state's offense not necessarily working as uh seamlessly as you would like like them to, especially with all the talent that the older dudes they have in their roster. You would think that they'd be a little bit more focused. But again it happens. You're dealing with 18 to 22-year-olds. It's not always going to work out that way. Lsu Louisiana Tech. This game was kind of weird. Lsu won 23 to 7, but it just felt like LSU just never pulled away like they probably should have, especially with the talent discrepancy that's there, especially coming off the week they had the week before where they beat Clemson in a pretty in a good manner. So you would think that they'd be able to take care of Louis Gannette Tech a lot easier. But it's not necessarily what happened. But you know I'm not going to sit here and say it's like a bad thing, but you know it's just one of those things where you're like, hey, maybe they don't. They kind of play with their food a little bit can be a thing. Long term that may be an issue. Georgia beat Austin Peay 28 to 6. This game did get stopped in the middle because of a weather advisory or something like that. I think it was like a lightning, but Georgia could not. You know, their starting quarterback for Georgia had to throw the football 34 times against Austin Peay. That's a lot. You should have control of the game. You should not have to throw that many passes against a team like that. But he was playing well into the fourth quarter and they were having their starting team in there. That should be a game where you're having your second and third strings in there in the second half and they couldn't. That, I think, is a little bit more iffy for Georgia fans because their offense isn't close to what it once was and like coming into the year, nobody expects the Georgia defense to be awesome like they have been in past years, so that I'm a little bit more worried about especially with them going and playing Tennessee this upcoming week. If their offense can't do what they need to do, tennessee could make them look stupid in that game if Georgia's offense doesn't show up. Miami Bethune-Cookman Miami won 45-3. That was pretty handedly. Miami had no trouble.
Speaker 2:Oregon-oklahoma State. I have a quick story to tell you about this game. The week going into that game, oklahoma State's head coach was talking about hey, we should not have to play this Oregon team because they spend $30 million in their roster and our roster only costs like $7 million in NIL money. And the media went and asked Oregon's coach about it. Dan Lanning, would you like to know what he said about hearing that comment from Oklahoma State's head coach? He said we spend to win games. Some save money to complain A low-key bar. I'm not the biggest Dan Lanning fan, obviously, because he's kind of been given the world as if he's one of the best head coaches in college football when he hasn't really deserved it yet. But like he, that is an absolute bar and they went out and took care of business. Because of it they won that game 69 to 3. They made Oklahoma State look like a FCS squad. So it was an absolute uh drumming and it just. It just goes to show that as a coach of a team that may not be as good as the other team. You may not want to put bulletin board material out there for the other coach to hear and then want to, like you know, make you look stupid because of it.
Speaker 2:Texas, san Jose State Texas won 38-7. The game wasn't. It did not look as good as you would think with Texas, with San Jose State, but did the job, got it done. Manning had a much better performance in week two rather than what he had in week one. He went 19 of 30 for 295 and four touchdowns.
Speaker 2:And one of the stories coming out of that game was that people were you know how they do like the close-ups on quarterbacks as they're doing stuff right, and they were looking like, hey, arch Manning is wincing every time he throws the football. So then it becomes a big thing on social media saying, hey, is he hurt? Is there something wrong with his shoulder? Oh, maybe that's a reason why he played so badly against Ohio State. But would you like to know what was said by both him and his coach Not Arch, because they didn't ask him, but they asked his head coach about it and Sark was like no, he's not hurt and he compares it to. Nobody takes videos of you when you go to the bathroom to see, you're going to the bathroom face, and then it comes out that people, twitter investigators they were going back looking at photos of him throwing all the way back to high school and he winces when he throws every single time. It's his man, it's his manning face, because, you know, every manning has a face. When they throw his manning fit, his face looks like he's hurting every time he throws the football. Absolutely insane, like if you looked it up, it was a straight up. It looks like he's wincing in pain every time he throws and it's kind of weird. But they took care of business. Arch isn't hurt and nothing to worry about there for texas fans. They just have to play better football, which is, you know, I. I feel like they were just trying to look for a reason for arch not to have played as well against ohio state and I'm like that irked me a little bit.
Speaker 2:So a game that was actually a little bit troubling Clemson-Troy. Clemson won the game 27 to 16. There was a point in this game where Troy was actually up 16 to 3 at the end of the first half, so Clemson really had to turn it on in the second half to go ahead and do anything. And obviously this is a big issue because a lot of people were looking at Clemson as like a national title favorite and a lot of people pick them to like go ahead and win the national championship and look, with the last two weeks being what they were, a lot of people are having a lot of questions about how good this offense truly can be. Cade Klubnick was not good in this game whatsoever. He went 18 to 24, 196 yards and two touchdowns and a pick.
Speaker 2:But it was more about the fact that they couldn't run the football at all against a Troy team. They could not throw the football. They didn't have any type of flow when it came to their offense against a Troy team that is like easily outmatched, and so it makes everybody question like, hey, how are you Clemson? You should be so much more talented than this team and it just tended to be a struggle in a way that it probably shouldn't be. Um, it was definitely very weird to watch. They turned it on the second half, they won the game, but with them having the struggles that they had, it makes you question whether they can really fix their issues like throughout the rest of the year, and I know it makes everybody question if that's like a team that can truly make, you know, make a college football playoff and, you know, get far in the playoff, because again they're not by themselves anymore, they are an ACC that Miami looks good, florida State looks good after they beat Alabama last like, not last week, but the week before. So like they have some teams they have to worry about and I think they go and play Georgia Tech this week, so it's not like they have time to go play some cupcakes and then get better for the meat of their schedule. No, they have a couple games early on that are in their own, in their own conference. So something they're going to, something to look at. And then let's see here Mention that don't care about that game. Illinois took care of Duke 45-19. It was a pretty like very strong performance by Illinois to win that game the way they did.
Speaker 2:Mississippi State unranked Mississippi State beat Arizona State 24-20 with like a lot, like they've had a touchdown in the last 30 seconds to win the game. The game should have been a lot. It shouldn't have been close to as close, should not have been as close as it was. Um, with Mississippi State winning 24-20. That game should have been Mississippi State running away with it, but in the first, because in the first half they were up 17-3 at halftime and they just couldn't do anything in the third and fourth quarter until the very end where Mississippi State got the touchdown. It was like a miraculous touchdown to win the game.
Speaker 2:It was like one of those things where Mississippi State's not looked at as a team, that's like a top tier squad and when it comes to college football. But a game like that for a fan base like that doesn't really expect to be like at the top of the sport. Every year was definitely a big one, especially against the arizona state team that has a lot of buzz coming out of last year where they made the playoff, almost beat texas and all of that. So definitely a big game for them. Another, uh, massive upset florida. South florida beat florida 18 to 16. Um in. I think it was in florida's house, right, I think Florida was at home in that game or they play it at a neutral site somewhere down in Florida.
Speaker 2:Um, this game was an absolute weird one to watch. Um Florida come coming into the season they had DJ Lagway as their quarterback, was looked at as like one of the best college quarterbacks out there. Has played nowhere near that. He's kind of played awful. He. He. They do say he's had a lot of injuries. That's kept him from being able to practice as much in the offseason but it should not have looked as looked as bad as it did, especially the last two weeks.
Speaker 2:I think their coach might get fired by the end of the season because of how bad their schedule is like throughout the year. They're gonna have so many games they're gonna have to face off against much better opponents than what they have. And the fact so many games they're going to have to face off against much better opponents than what they have, and the fact they've already lost a game to a South Florida team that has nowhere near the roster that Florida does, is a huge issue. I will get South Florida and there was one moment, especially coming off the Eagles game from last week, when they you had the I'm forgetting his name now Jalen Carter Jalenter, spitting on dac, one of the florida players, and the last drive the south florida had spit on one of the south florida players, giving him a free 15 yards and getting him ejected from the game. That propelled south florida being able to have the the last, second drive, to be able to go out, go ahead and hit the game winningwinning field goal to win the game.
Speaker 2:So I think there should be a all coaches go to their teams and just say hey, we're not doing the spitting thing. If you spit, we're throwing you off the field right away, even if the officials don't. Because I just don't understand. You literally have a license to put other players through a car wreck on the field, but yet spitting is the one thing you want to do. I just don't know. I think that's the lowest thing you could possibly do to another human being and I just feel like there's other ways on the football field for you to go ahead and get your.
Speaker 1:Get back if something is said that you don't like I think that was the only thing our own mother ever said that she was okay with us hitting somebody, for that is a that's a universal thing, that's a universal no-no is spitting on people.
Speaker 2:I just don't understand how that can be something that um is okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know, it's just weird.
Speaker 2:Um, but florida definitely uh, paid the price for that one. Florida state beats florida state won their game 77 to 3. Doesn't really matter there. Oklahoma beat Michigan 24 to 13. That's one of the bigger games. Um, the game was. Oklahoma should have won this game by a lot more. Oklahoma turned the football over twice and still managed to win the game by 11. So imagine if Oklahoma didn't turn the football over those couple times and give Michigan more opportunities.
Speaker 2:I will say that even with the shiny five-star quarterback that they brought in for 12 million dollars, I just don't think they trust him yet. Bryce Underwood I think he was the best player on that squad, even though he went 9 of 24 142 yards, no touchdowns, no picks. But I think that was more of a indictment on the weapons around him. Their wide receivers are nothing to be scared of. I think their probably best offensive weapon outside of Bryce is Justice Haynes, their running back. He carried the ball well 19 carries, 125 yards and a touchdown. But I just think that when you pay the money to bring in a quarterback that you brought in and then you start him from game one, but then you don't have the weapons to accentuate the abilities that he has. I just feel like you're wasting not only the money you're paying him, but the player that he is, because I'll give him his credit. Bryce Underwood is a very talented player and I'm not wanting to give out a bunch of compliments to Michigan team, to any type of Michigan player or team, but he is very talented and it just felt like they kind of just said, hey, we don't trust you to win this game. And even if they did, I don't think they have the talent around him to really accentuate what he does best. But not to mention, they ran the football decently well but he does best. But and not to mention, they ran the football decently well, but they didn't stick to it like they probably should. But again, they were down to Oklahoma pretty early. So I get the idea that you don't feel like you can just run your offense the way you want to, but they were. They were in the game for the most part and up until the very end. So, like they had their opportunity to run their offense, they decided not to um, but Oklahoma's defense is pretty good.
Speaker 2:I'm not not going to sit here and say Oklahoma looks great. I just feel like Oklahoma and Michigan are probably two middle-tier squads and I think Oklahoma just kind of had the better day. But they do have a quarterback that's very good. John Mateer, the quarterback they got as a transfer out of somewhere I forget where he came from. He went 21-34, 270 yards, one touchdown and a pick. But he also ran the ball for 74 yards and two touchdowns. So like he if you had to say like who was like the early Heisman favorite, he might be one of the names you talk about. But I just think, offensively Oklahoma didn't have to do too much to win this game because of how inept Michigan looked on offense and especially with Michigan's defense not necessarily being the same type of of. They don't have the same type of toughness or the same type of talent all over the board that they used to have on defense, and not to mention Michigan's offensive line isn't all that great either. So it definitely helped out Oklahoma to be able to get pressure on Bryce Underwood more than you would think.
Speaker 2:Um, do I have any other games to talk about? College-wise, iowa State beat Iowa 16-13. That game was always like first to 15 wins. Honestly, neither team usually scores a lot in that matchup, but Iowa State got the win there. Baylor beat SMU in a barn burner 48-45. That game went to overtime I think double overtime in order for Baylor to finish that game out. That game was very exciting to watch.
Speaker 2:Ole Miss beat Kentucky 30-23. You would think that Ole Miss would be able to run away with that game a little bit earlier, but they just couldn't make it happen. Kentucky just always knows how to play that Ole Miss offense very well. Ole Miss. They're never as explosive as you think they would be going into a matchup like that with Kentucky. For some reason, bama came off the loss looking pretty good 73-0. Tennessee beat East Tennessee State by a big margin and Utah beat Cal Poly. But that's pretty much it for all the college football games. Oh, that is not it. I need to give you your opportunity, jace. This might be the first time in a long time you can come into this podcast and talk about your Michigan State Spartans in a happy-go-lucky manner. I just wanted to give you your opportunity to kind of share what your experience was watching that game.
Speaker 1:Stressed. I was stressed the whole game.
Speaker 2:And for those that didn't watch it it was a 42-41. 42-40. Was it in overtime right In?
Speaker 2:OT double OT. Double OT Game was close all the way through, honestly. Double OT Game was close all the way through, honestly. Michigan State kept it pretty consistent offensively. They were able to keep going. Boston College did kind of explode in the second quarter to score 21 points to Michigan State's seven, to kind of have a nice lead going into the second half, but Michigan State just kept with it. What do you think of your quarterback in that, like the big game, biggest game you've seen this season? Aiden Childs, the guy I've kind of been kind of explaining to you how good he can be, but you're like I, I have to see it to believe it, and I think in this game I think he played very well. He didn't throw any picks, he went 19-29, 231 yards, four touchdowns, zero picks.
Speaker 1:It was fine. It was fine.
Speaker 2:He also ran for 39 yards and a touchdown as well.
Speaker 1:He was very, very good at choosing when to run. It was a good game by him.
Speaker 2:That's all I can truly ask for at this point.
Speaker 1:He't ruin it. He didn't make any bad mistakes last year. He ruined it.
Speaker 2:He ruined a good defense, playing good ball nick marsh also made a lot of big plays five receptions, 68 yards, two touchdowns something different he's very good, I think, watching this.
Speaker 2:I was watching this game along with you you but we were video calling at the same time as watching this game. I found myself being just as excited, if not more excited, than you were, because I've been on the Michigan State bandwagon for a couple years now. It's made it easier that Ohio State and Michigan State hasn't played the last couple years. They're not going to play this season, but I've been telling you like hey, there's a chance. You're a new head coach. He knows how to build up programs like this. Like, like, I think you can really get back. I'm not going to sit here and say you're going to be the top of the big 10, but you could easily be a top five, top six, big 10 team If John is Jonathan Smith, your new coach does this thing, and especially with Aiden Childs being as talented as he is, and I'm like I've been the guy trying to convince Jace that it can happen and watching a game like this, a game they would have lost easily last year and they come into this year and they win a game like this. It was a back-and-forth affair and it was very fun to watch, but I will say Michigan State's defense isn't close to what it was last year. They were getting carved up by dylan lonergan. He went 34, 45 for 390 yards and four touchdowns.
Speaker 2:That, that boy is different. He was slinging it. He was slinging all over the place in michigan state's defense. They just kept giving so much space to all those wide receivers and they he just kept throwing to the open guy and just letting them run after the catch and get some extra yards out of that. Like every time that he just took what they, what the michigan state team, gave him and he did what he had to do. Um, but it that is something a little bit weird and I'm not sure if michigan state has the depth they probably need. But if they stay healthy, I think I my bet for them winning over five games is definitely going to hit. Glad you think so, bro, but again, you were very happy with it. I was just excited that you got the opportunity to think your team is going to lose the game and you win it, because I just feel like with your Bengals it's like an expectation.
Speaker 1:Now with having Joe Burrow. There's no reason they should lose, as in right it is in my brain.
Speaker 2:So I think the idea that you could have a team that you don't really think that highly of that can give you that magical moment, that oh shit moment that you like oh my God, we just won this game. I feel like it's a very magical feeling for a person to have, especially about their sports teams and have especially about their sports teams. And I think I was just very happy that you had the chance to do that Because, again, I go in the most of my games that I watch just nervous and I'm like, oh, who knows how this is going to go. Hopefully we win. And again it's more of an expectation on the Ohio State side rather than the Pittsburgh side. But like I just think, in general I don't get to have that moment as much as you probably do, and I know maybe I have it more because the Steelers make me nervous, because I don't have that expectation necessarily of winning.
Speaker 1:Most of you, there's that expectation. Oh yeah, with Pittsburgh it's not the same expectation.
Speaker 2:Like I don't have the same attachment emotionally to Pittsburgh, I can view it a little more down the middle, analytically, in a way that Ohio State if they lose a game I'm ready to jump off the roof. So I think that's my difference there.
Speaker 1:And that's perfectly understandable. Personally, I would sooner die than want to watch the Bengals lose a game.
Speaker 2:True, I think I came to the conclusion I want to watch the Bengals lose a game.
Speaker 1:True, I think I came to this conclusion, I want to watch the Bengals game. So bad I probably did like 100 on the way home just to see the game.
Speaker 2:This is my conclusion, I think for me, I don't think I could live if I was that live or die with every sports team that I watch that I have. I think having one sports team like that is more than the quota for an average person to be able to have, because being live or die with your team on Saturday and then your team on Sunday, multiple times in a week, and not to mention to do people that are hockey fans or huge fans of basketball Even though I'm a fan of basketball but I'm not live or die with the Bulls because I would have died many times by now.
Speaker 1:I probably would have killed myself by now.
Speaker 2:So bad, so bad. Signed Josh Giddey, though, so I guess it's a little bit of good news, but again, both of our teams had some very big wins, for different reasons, and that's about it for the college football stuff. So with no further, without further ado, let's go ahead and get to the nfl stuff, which I think was a lot of crazy stuff happening what I enjoyed watching michigan state play.
Speaker 1:They played a good game yeah it was a fun game to watch. It was stressful as fuck. I just feel like our defense is so much worse than it used to be so much worse.
Speaker 2:They couldn't stop a nosebleed yeah, no, that's very true but, they stopped it when it mattered yeah, when it mattered most, they made it, made it happen. But again that sometimes that's like that's all you could hope for, right? Like sometimes you just don't have it coming in a day or heck for a season, you're like, hey, I don't think our team really has it this year, but like, hey, if you can just make the big stops when he, when it matters most, at least a good, uh, a good portion of the time, I think you win more games than you don't and uh michigan say on that day had a very good game won against boston college again not necessarily like they're a terrible team there.
Speaker 2:I think their team's kind of on the same level within college football and I think michigan state got the win and they played better on that day and aiden chiles played a great game. So I think I think it's a game you, as a michigan state fan, could definitely be proud of and hope that you can take that on to the rest of the season and win more games than you. Heck, I think you want how many games you win last night? Four last year, yeah, three, three games last year. I think you would definitely win more games than you. Heck, I think you won.
Speaker 1:How many games you won last night, four Last year, yeah, three.
Speaker 2:Three games last year. I think you would definitely win more games than that with the talent that you have on that squad, as long as, obviously, health notwithstanding because you know something like that can somebody can get hurt and it can ruin a season, but I just think everybody stays healthy. I think your team can definitely win a lot more games than that, hopefully over five and a half, which is what I bet on. And let's go ahead and go to the NFL side. There's a lot of things to talk about there. So let's just do this in chronological order. Let's start from Thursday, because we haven't podcast since then. So Cowboys and Eagles Eagles won the game 24 to 20. The game was a lot closer than you would like. Let's start with what happened. First thing in the game was a lot closer than you would like. Let's start with the start. What happened first thing in the game? You saw the spit. Yeah, you saw this dack spit first pussy you straight pussy dude literally okay.
Speaker 2:So how? This is where I stand, on that dack. You know what's funny?
Speaker 1:I stared that man in the eyes. He spit you stare.
Speaker 2:You stared that man, you didn't spit on him, but you spit at his feet. You spit towards the one dude standing by himself and I'm like there's no way you, dak. Because Dak tried to say after the game like hey, I wasn't trying to spit on him or anything like that, it was just he wasn't trying to intimidate my offensive lineman. And then I was trying to take up for him and then I spit, I spit a thousand times a game. But I'm like you can spit anywhere. You spit in between your offensive lineman's pads like a sniper in order to get the spit out, and you were looking at the dude dead in the eyes while you did it. And I just think that even if you didn't spit, like I was saying earlier, spits a universal no-no.
Speaker 2:Was it bad on Jalen Carter to spit on him back? Yeah for sure. But I also think Dak brought Spitt into the scenario by spitting in the first place. So I'm like once you did that, all bets are off and what happens happens. But Jalen Carter got the L for that. He got kicked out of the game and then they I think the NFL ended up charging him. They ended up fining him for his whole game. Check for the game. So I just think that, even though Jalen Carter, you would like for him not to like answer back by doing what he did, but I also think Dak Prescott's a pussy and he did that knowing that he was going to get a rise out of him, and I just think that Dak deserves more blame in that scenario than he definitely got.
Speaker 2:Because everybody wanted to make Jalen Carter out to be a terrible person.
Speaker 2:Dude, I'm like my Dak did it first. I just don't like again, because this is the thing where I was like when I was talking to like our stepdad that didn't think the same way as I. I was like if you were walking down the street and somebody came up to you, spit at your feet and then looked at you, straight in your eye and laughed at you, what would you think happened? They would say, oh, I didn't mean to spit, I wasn't trying to spit on you, I didn't even hit you. Oh, I wasn't trying to do anything like that. Like that would be more antagonizing than anything. So like if you couldn't handle that in real life, I don't think we should expect Jalen Carter to handle that in a football field. I agree, dude, that was my main point. But after that game, jalen Carter, like going into that game, jalen Carter was definitely missing that game.
Speaker 2:The Cowboys are able to run the football a lot more effectively than you think they would have Going into that game. Dak Prescott didn't really play all that great 21 to 34, 188 yards, no touchdowns, no picks. Jalen Hurts played really good 19-23, 152. But Jalen Hurts had two rushing touchdowns with his 62 yards rushing. Ceedee Lamb is a choker.
Speaker 1:Real quick. I really was saying it must have been Freaky Friday because him and Quentin Johnson must have switched bodies Because, god damn, he dropped three passes in a row in the fourth quarter where the Cowboys had a chance to win the game Friday.
Speaker 2:Because him and Quentin Johnson must have switched bodies. Uh, because, god damn, he dropped three passes in a row in the fourth quarter where the Cowboys had a chance to win the game, and I'm talking easy passes. And he drops them and I'm sitting there like, but you were good for the first three quarters, didn't drop a thing. And then, as soon as crunch time hit, you drop three passes in or I'm talking easy ones in a row that maybe the last one where he had to dive for was a little bit more difficult, but the two before that were right in his hands and he didn't get the job done. And if you're CeeDee Lamb people who think he's a top five receiver which I didn't put him at, I didn't either, but people expect him to be that you need to be able to catch those passes when they're given to you. But I think CDLM underperformed and I think again, did I expect Dak to play great? No, but I think the Cowboys definitely got the bump from not having to play against Jalen Carter in the middle of that Eagles defense. But Eagles did what they had to do. But here's what I'll say AJ Brown got one catch in this game. He got one target and one catch. You know when that catch happened, the last drive of the goddamn game. And I know aj brown likes to be a good teammate, but there will be a crash out moment if these games like this keep happening. Because aj brown, he is a I'm not going to call him a diva, because I think he's a little better than that but he wants to be the guy you lean on like. He wants to be that type of dude. So I don't think you could have many more games like that, where AJ Brown only gets one target and it's not until the end of the game. But I think with more games they'll start to get better and get him more targets.
Speaker 2:But their, their leading receiver for the Eagles was Jahan Dotson, with three receptions for 59 yards. I get it, they didn't throw for they didn't throw a lot. But you know, know, you're just going to have to get your star receivers more involved. Earlier on in the game, jalen did great. Jalen hurts Um. Saquon did okay, he did 18 carriers for 60 yards and a touchdown, um. But you know, eagles won the game. They were the better, they're the better overall team. But I think without Jalen Carter on the field it definitely takes away one of the like, the probably one of the better defensive players in the whole league, let alone on their own team.
Speaker 2:By the way, cooper Dajin, they moved him to safety. He's not playing quarter, no more. I think they finally realized he's white and really can't keep up with all the wide receivers he has to play. So they moved him. He's exclusively at corner and they couldn't stop a nosebleed Because I think they had Quinnion Mitchell. He was getting torched. Nobody they had at the corner positions was doing anything to that Cowboys offense. So that's going to be a problem, especially obviously with Darius Slay leaving that team to go to Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1:They have a big hole at that position. He was getting torched too.
Speaker 2:Again he was getting torched by Garrett Wilson. To a certain extent that's kind of expected. Not as bad as it went I'll get to that in a minute but it went pretty bad. Eagles won that game. Very big win for the Eagles. Cowboys Cowboys it up, just as usual.
Speaker 2:Chargers, chiefs. Chargers beat the Chiefs. Chargers beat the Chiefs 27-21. This is the game we're going into. You believe that the Chargers are going to win the game? I could not. I was like, hey, no, I knew they were going to win the game. You did. Yes, you knew they were going to win the game. I was like I need to see it first. See it, I did.
Speaker 2:The Chargers went into that game in Brazil and they dominated man Herbert 25, 25 of 34, 318 yards, three touchdowns, no picks. They played great. I'll stick to the charge first, then I'll go to the Chiefs. They ran the football okay. Omarion Hampton was the lead back by a lot 15 carries, 48 yards. Justin Herbert ran the football effectively Seven carries for 32 yards. Najee only got one carry. So I think maybe Najee is like he's definitely not the number one back. I think Omarion Hampton is definitely the number one dude in that offense.
Speaker 2:Getting to the receiving, quinton Johnston was the leading receiver for that team in this game. He had five receptions, 79 yards and two touchdowns. He had an absolutely amazing day. Like again I think you mentioned it when we were talking about it is that every time he got the football he was always on a drag route. He was looking right at the quarterback when he was getting thrown the football so he didn't have to make an over-the-shoulder catch or anything like that. But he was very effective and once he gets the ball he's very dangerous when it comes to making field, making plays in the open field. So he was absolutely awesome. Lad mcconkey six steps and 76 receptions, 74 yards played a very good game. Keenan allen, in his return to the chargers seven receptions, 68 yards and a touchdown. Like the chargers played absolutely amazing ball. They didn't run the, they didn't try to sit there and run into a wall like they probably would have last year.
Speaker 2:And I think if they let Herbert go and like I have to give Herbert this credit because I went, came into this season saying this is the make or break year for him and like if, as much as I've been a big Herbert fan with how talented he is, how beautiful of a ball he throws. If you can't do anything on the field to back up the talent that you are, you have to start asking questions about you. And I called this the make or break year for him and I think coming out of game one I think he made a very big statement against the Chiefs. So to the Chiefs side of this thing offensively, they did lose Xavier Worthy literally the first game into the year. First, like literally the first play, because I think they were trying to do a crossing route with him and Kelsey and they ran into each other and then Xavier Worthy, only being 160 pounds, got hit in the shoulder one time and it's a big boo-boo and he can't play the rest of the game. First off, how are you two offensive players running into each other when you guys know the play? That's happening like you guys have to know where you're going and not do that. But I think the fact that he's only 160 pounds is definitely it's going to make it a thing and I think, coming out of the game they said that he's day-to-day, not week-to-week, he's not gonna be missing any time. But they did say, depending on how he heals, if he gets hit again he will have to get surgery and it will be a much longer absence. So the fact that he can't put on any muscle on that frame probably doesn't help with that whole scenario.
Speaker 2:But speaking of Kelsey, he didn't do a lot in this game. He did barely anything. He had two receptions, 47 yards on touchdown. Most of that came off the one target that he had on the trick play where he kind of like he kind of leaked out and then got the open play. But other than that, kelsey didn't do all that. Great Mahomes did what he could.
Speaker 2:I think he was probably the best player on that squad. He was not only the leading passer, obviously being the quarterback, but he also was their leading rusher in this game as well. I think he had 57 yards rushing and a touchdown in this game as well. I think he had 57 yards rushing and a touchdown in this game. And I just think that the Chiefs, defensively, for what they've been the last few years I think that their secondary is the worst it has been in a few years think the chargers straight up like we're just slicing and dicing all over their secondary, and I think that if this is going to be the case and the chiefs can't be stowed your toe. If the chiefs can't rely on their secondary to make the plays they have been doing the last two or three years, I don't think they can be the team that everybody is scared of yeah, no fucking dips.
Speaker 1:Almost like I fucking knew this was going to happen. I told you this was going to happen. I've been saying it was going to happen and guess what's happening. You had Kelsey in your top ten. I told you we're tweaking off a part.
Speaker 2:I had him in like six or seven.
Speaker 1:That's too fucking high. Maybe he's an old fucking man.
Speaker 2:He's 36, but again we say we've been saying this last two years and then in the playoffs he explodes, has the big game. You're like, oh, but again that's usually the issue is that if you're older you just can't bring it every week. You can have those moments where you have the big game, but can you sustain it over a whole season?
Speaker 1:I think kelsey's definitely past that as of right now, they don't even look like the best team in the conference currently.
Speaker 2:The division. Give me a deadpan Division because you're saying the Chargers are better than them.
Speaker 1:Maybe Again I— Fuck, you're lucky, bo Nix had a bad night. Oh, yes, you're lucky, he had a bad fucking night.
Speaker 2:Oh, we'll get to that, but I was— You're lucky he had a bad night or fuck that motherfucker.
Speaker 1:Get to that, but I was lucky he had a bad night. Or fuck they he that mom, that motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Third and also, I do have to mention the chiefs defensive line other than Chris Jones, nobody to really be scared of and I think if Chris Jones isn't getting the job done, I don't think there's anybody that you have to worry about on that from if you're any type of offense running against his Kansas city Chiefs game, I think this team will rely a lot more on the offense and if they can't produce enough points, I think their defense is definitely weak enough to be had. If you know what you're doing on offense, that's a big win for the Chargers. Got the win there. Let's go ahead and go on to the Sunday games. Buccaneers-falcons. Buccaneers win 23-20. Baker had a big game. I think he was 17-32, 167, three touchdowns. The biggest name of the game was Emeka Igbuka man Four receptions, 67 yards and two touchdowns. I think you were saying this before that. I was more saying like hey, he's going to be the number two receiver. He'll be behind Mike Evans.
Speaker 1:It's almost like I've been right about everything I've fucking said.
Speaker 2:Not everything, but a good portion.
Speaker 1:Bo Nix.
Speaker 2:How does it not count?
Speaker 1:Huh, what did I say about Bo Nix? You were talking about how great.
Speaker 2:Bo Nix is Like it's not, oh, he's a very good quarterback. What are you say about Bo Nix? You were talking about how great Bo Nix is, like it's not, oh, he's a very good quarterback. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1:He's not.
Speaker 2:Who did they play? They played nobody good.
Speaker 1:Who did they play? Hold on, Shut up right now. Fuck nigga.
Speaker 2:They played Titans.
Speaker 1:God damn this nigga's selling yeah yeah damn, he's selling me right now.
Speaker 2:We'll get to that, but Buccaneers played great. I think the Falcons looked pretty good too. Michael Penix made a lot of great plays. He went 27-42, 298, a touchdown. I hate to say this. Kyle Pitts made some plays. Can I count on it for a whole season? I'm not going to.
Speaker 1:You're going to bet on it Never again. Fuck nigga, I hate you. That's so fucking much. Never going to bet on Kyle Pitts, ever again.
Speaker 2:I hate you so much, but I will say in this game he made an impact. He caught seven passes, but Bijan Robinson was like their leading receiver in this game Six recept, six receptions, 100 yards and a touchdown Boy. They don't.
Speaker 2:They literally use him as their number two receiver. They just make sure to give him the ball as many times as possible. And Bichon played great. I have to give him that credit. But I will say Atlanta is going to be a hard out for anybody that is going to play them. But in the end, oh, Young Wae Koo, the kicker that Jay said is one of the best in the NFL he, the kicker that Jay said is one of the best in the NFL. He missed like a few chip shots in this game, in order, I think, especially the last one where he had a chip shot field goal to tie the game up to go into overtime. Missed it, Missed it wide right too, which is crazy coming from a righty. But Buccaneers played great. Falcons played great, but Buccaneers got the win in that game. Let's get to you, buddy Bengals Brown 17-16. Give me your analysis. Actually, you know what. Let's play a game. Pick whether you want to go positive or negative on your Bengals and I'll take the other one.
Speaker 1:I'll go negative.
Speaker 2:Okay, you make the negative. What do you see wrong with the Bengals? And I'll go, I'll go positive on that side the defense is hot fucking garbage.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, give me your positive, let's start there.
Speaker 2:Give me your I think your defense was opportunistic. Oh and obviously, the the obvious picks that were like laid up on a silveratter, your secondary to take advantage of, and that is including your safety.
Speaker 1:That is battle, jordan battle.
Speaker 2:He made a big play and I do think they played tough against the run.
Speaker 1:Cam Taylor has no fucking clue where Jerry Judy is at right now.
Speaker 2:Jerry Judy did mess him up bro. It was five receptions, 66 yards Beating his ass. Yeah, flacco had a decent day. 31-45, 290.
Speaker 1:He flagged three times for PI, by the way, just so we can get that out there.
Speaker 2:Okay, the negative's pretty strong on this one. I'm not going to lie to you, I'm saying they showed some fight.
Speaker 1:I see better players in the field.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot better.
Speaker 1:Yeah, play a lot better. Yeah, they won't allow a whole lot of pass going to anybody else. But Judy and Joku, right? Yeah, because Newton and DJ Turner can cover a fucking receiver. True, and they did. Those are the second and third best guys, right, but they're covering them Right. Logan Wilson always a bright spot. That boy was good. Brandon Knight he was also pretty good in the run.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I will give a little bit to the negative side. It's not like Cleveland has a great running back. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:I foresee my team being pretty okay in the run. Uh-huh, oh my God, there was fucking receivers. Why the fuck up All day? Long I'm talking there's no one near him and if they can make more catches they probably would have won that game. Jared Judy's not the most fast receiver, but he would catch a ball. There's no one around him for five yards. Yeah, and I'm looking at it. I'm like why the fuck are we?
Speaker 2:playing zone? What the fuck are we? There's one. Why are we playing zone? Well, if you're playing zone, you have to keep the guy in front of you, and they kept getting away.
Speaker 1:And that's the part. Yeah, kevlar Britton would stand there and then I'm watching this. I legit Because he got past him so fast.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, brandon Knight's not great in the. He's not great at coverage. Again, what rookie linebacker is Mm-hmm? And the run he was chasing down running backs? Again, he's one of the. He's athletic.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Also believe he would like to come off the line. Just from watching him play, he looks fucking uncomfortable trying to play middle linebacker.
Speaker 2:Right in coverage. He doesn't want to do anything in coverage. He wants to get after the quarterback.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he looks uncomfortable as fuck. I just need to say it. There was times where he went to line up and like, get in a spot and Logan Wilson I watched it Logan Wilson walked up to him and just walked his ass over there and then ran back to his spot and I'm like, oh, he has no fucking clue where he's supposed to be, because in South Carolina you know what he was doing, coming off the line.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he played left outside linebacker, but he was on the line left outside linebacker. Yep, we're trying to have this motherfucker take over Draymond Pratt's role, and Drayaine Pratt was a straight middle linebacker.
Speaker 2:Helping coverage, doing all that type of stuff? Yes, he is not that Right.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you that right now he's not that Okay. Go throw his ass on the line. See what he can fucking do. Swap him and Shamar Stewart out. See what they can fucking do. Shamar Stewart ain't sideline and put Brandon. Knight Over there, you miss, you miss urgency.
Speaker 2:Shamara Stewart's Pretty good against the run though. So you can't, you can't. You have to give that to him At least.
Speaker 1:This is a passing league, motherfucker, go play, go play. 25 years ago.
Speaker 2:Again, who knows what that, who knows what that game Would've looked like?
Speaker 1:If Quinn Sean Judkins Would've, I was so excited we would have been fucking cooked Alright.
Speaker 2:Offensively, you want to go positive or negative. Negative, I'll go positive and go first. I think you guys ran the football effectively with Chase Brown. It wasn't spurts, it wasn't awesome, but they know how to use him effectively in the moments that he has 21 carries, 43 yards.
Speaker 1:Not necessarily. It was like two yards per run average.
Speaker 2:But I think he's a very versatile weapon. Joe Burrow is Joe Burrow, yeah, and I think that your wide receiver core will never have a day as bad as this again.
Speaker 1:Until they play the Browns again. Is it my turn?
Speaker 2:Noah Fant was great, by the way, Having him another tight end weapon Again, because he's not like Gusecki, where it's like all right, he's going out for a pass. Right.
Speaker 1:And it's not like Sample where it's like, all right, they're running the ball Right. They said it on broadcast. He's a good mix of. He's deceiving, so it confuses linebackers. He can go out for a pass or he can block he's a great middle man and I think he's going to fit great in the Bengals offense. I agree, Joe Burrow won't make it to week six with a fucking old line playing like this. Yeah, it wasn't good?
Speaker 2:It was not good whatsoever.
Speaker 1:That bitch. I watched it collapse three straight times Real quick. Not from Marius's men's side, though. Not once did it collapse from the right side, that bitch kept collapsing from the left side. Orlando Brown was struggling. I need to give Marius Mims his credit.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Cause he has his problems. He's just slow, yeah, but he didn't let up a sack today, orlando Brown let up too. Marius Mims did what he was supposed to do. He kept his guy in front of him and he kept stuffing his ass. You can tell he's quicker to move Right. He's a lot quicker to get off the line.
Speaker 2:He's a lot quicker to get off the line.
Speaker 1:He's better and our right guard is playing pretty good too. Yeah, the center, the left guard and the right guard. The center, the left guard and the left. Tackle Fucking Swiss cheese over there. Swiss fucking cheese. Joe Burrow turned on for Myles Garrett on several occasions, I see, not even like late in the game, where they were just worn down.
Speaker 2:I'm talking first fucking quarter. Yeah, seven yards in the second half is not a great stat. I don't know when. That's never happened to a Joe Burrow offense, I'm not sure if it will ever happen again.
Speaker 1:No, even in his bad games last year he was good. Yeah, Rick, what the fuck I'll play calling.
Speaker 2:Again. I've long been on the Zach Taylor ain't no good coach type of.
Speaker 1:I've been on that train for a while now they paid him because he got to a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:And then he's been ass ever since.
Speaker 1:He was ass before during the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:True.
Speaker 1:We watched this nigga run three fucking screens.
Speaker 2:They're not going nowhere.
Speaker 1:Stop fucking running them. Yeah, I agree. In all honesty, I would have killed for a screen during this game.
Speaker 2:Get the ball to Joe Burrow's hands that bitch might have worked.
Speaker 1:That bitch might have worked, that bitch might have worked. But again, the play calling is so bland that Noah Fant play. Yeah, it's the best play that was called all game.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I agree Great fucking play. Wasn't off play action and Noah Fant was sitting in the back of the end zone by himself.
Speaker 1:It was meant to be a run All he had to do was push his linebacker inside and run out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, leak out, Got his ass right.
Speaker 1:That was it. That was the only creative play I saw all game.
Speaker 2:Heck, we've been talking about that for years, though Like, hey, the offense is Joe Burrow-centric. If he's not playing well, there is nothing to make his job easier.
Speaker 1:I pray for our defense coordinator. That nigga's losing his job and it's not his fault. I miss Luna Rumo because this defense. I see so many talented pieces.
Speaker 2:And Rumo's defense coordinator somewhere isn't he? Do you know which team? I remember seeing him watch football the other day, but he was coaching. He was with the Colts, I think. I think it was with the Colts. He was with the defense coordinator.
Speaker 1:But yeah, no, I just think Makes fucking sense. Yeah, they won a game. We fired Luan Arumo, just you agreed with me. He wasn't a problem. He did a lot with a little.
Speaker 2:It was personnel, it was not him, he it was not him.
Speaker 1:He did a lot with a whole lot of nothing he did. He did a whole fucking lot with nothing.
Speaker 2:True yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think we have a lot of talented pieces.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Logan Wilson's always been very good. I think Brandon Knight's very good, but being used wrong. I think Shemar Stewart has his upside. Yeah, I think he has a very, very high floor as well. I think he has a high floor as well. I think he has a high floor. I don't think he has a high ceiling.
Speaker 2:I can agree with that.
Speaker 1:I think the ceiling and floor are very, very close and this nigga's not going to be better than Sam Hubbard. I'm not going to lie to you. I do not foresee him being better than Sam Hubbard.
Speaker 2:That's not great to hear when you know Hendrickson's only here for the year.
Speaker 1:No again. Sam Hubbard was that boy's going to give you eight sacks.
Speaker 2:Yeah for sure, but he's a great number two. He was a great number two. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:And he was there in big moments. He was there and he was getting the shit done to pressures. He was great in the run and I'm okay with that. We drafted Sam Hubbard pretty high too. I'm cool with that. That right, it's just hey, you gotta be able to get to the quarterback.
Speaker 2:True, and the only guy that can get to the quarterback is a one-year rental. And you know what made it bad is that you're facing over 40 year old.
Speaker 1:He's not gonna run away from you that he legit, the pocket's collapsing and he has not moved because he can't yeah, he's gonna get in the we're not getting to him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's getting the ball out faster than you guys get to him. I was so sure.
Speaker 1:I was like, if there's going to be a game smarts where it's going to show up and show out, it's going to be this one. He can't run from you and you did not even get in the backfield.
Speaker 2:No, flacco only got sacked.
Speaker 1:Bj Hill was one of them. Bj Hill was one, and Henderson was the other.
Speaker 2:Henderson got him late. Yeah, but it's not like the Browns have a great offensive line by any means.
Speaker 1:It was just, henderson hasn't practiced all season.
Speaker 2:And the coverage wasn't holding long enough for your defensive line to get after him Again.
Speaker 1:I think we have two talented DBs who are good, but not go cover number one good, right, yeah. And we don't have two good safeties. We have Jordan Battle, who can tackle real well and is great in run support yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't need him, I don't need him, I don't need him, I don't need him, I don't need him, I don't need him, I don. Has great run support and we have Geno Stone's trash ass, who no one in the city says that he fucking likes, because he is garbage. He's fucking awful. I see why the Ravens cut your ass. You were cheap and we picked you up like dumbasses.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:Here's what I'll say. I think it was a great team win for your team Fuck a team win.
Speaker 1:I don't give a fuck about a team win you guys got out gained 327 to 141.
Speaker 2:Yards per play was 4.9 for the Browns to 2. No, sorry, 4.6 for the Browns to 2.9 for the Bengals. So the fact that things went as shit as they did for your squad Chase didn't do shit, higgins didn't do shit, burrow didn't play great and the fact you're still able to find a chance to win this game is a positive. What did you guys win the game? Because the Browns gave you two like literally drops on a silver platter to be interceptions. Yeah, maybe.
Speaker 2:Or if the Browns can maybe hit an extra point, that game would be tied and then maybe the Browns would win. That's probably a point as well. But I just think that in the games you've had prior, the Browns have just ran rough shot over you and you're like, oh, what the hell happened in this game? But at least it didn't go well. But if the Bengals found a, found a way to win the game, I think it's probably the best way to kind of contextualize it, because you can't sit here and say I would like to think that you would hope your offense will be better the rest of the season. Will the protection be better? Probably not, but Joe Burrow, t Higgins, jamar Chase will be a lot more productive throughout the rest of the season, but again, that's probably the worst team we've played.
Speaker 1:We're in a phase in the season.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you're not wrong, never mind.
Speaker 1:We play the Panthers.
Speaker 2:That's true, but no, I just think it's a good one. But shit they had an interception.
Speaker 1:Yeah, an actual interception.
Speaker 2:Literally, it's like the wide receiver Just dropped it and just plopped it up Right for one of your defenders to get Like both times. It was crazy how crazy that was. But yeah, the Bengals got a good one there. Colts, dolphins this was one of the splits. I think we went 11-6, no 11-5, on our picks this past week. Both did very good. This is one of our splits, though we split on our splits. Obviously I picked colt, you picked the dolphins. The colts scored um on all of their possessions in this game. They won 33 to 8. Daniel jones went 22 of 29 for 272 yards and a touchdown. I think he also had a rushing touchdown in this game as well. Jonathan Taylor had 71 yards rushing. I think you added another 27 yards receiving. And this is my question to you Was this game more about the Colts being good or the Miami Dolphins being complete ass?
Speaker 1:I think it's the Miami Dolphins being complete ass. Real quick, real quick, real quick. I watched two minutes of this game and I was like, alright, cutting this shit off, because I opened up the game. This motherfucker threw it straight to a colt and I'm like alright, I see how this is going.
Speaker 2:Both of Tua's picks were both dead. Nobody else in the area.
Speaker 1:Straight to him I don't know I legit on the first. I caught it on the first interception. I was like all right, kerr, this is it, Switched it.
Speaker 2:Tua went 14-23, 114 yards, a touchdown and two picks. It was indoors, didn't have to worry about the elements, first game of the season. He can't have had a head injury yet and they played like complete garbage. They ran the football for only 78 yards. Tyreek Hill didn't do shit. Do you know? Tyreek Hill has had a more than a calendar year since he's had a 100 yard game damn he had four receptions for 40 yards.
Speaker 2:This Miami Dolphins team is awful, awful, awful, awful. I mean you were talking about before the season, like how bad the dolphins could really be, and it might be worse. Their coach, mike mcdaniel, may not last the season like this is this team is going to go so bad. Fuck, I'll take him. It was going so terribly. Do you know what quarterback came into the game as a backup for the dolphins?
Speaker 2:tyra taylor zach wilson damn, wearing the number zero. By the way, I don't think any player should wear the number zero, especially a quarterback. It just looked weird. At least not in the nfl. In college they wear zero a lot more often, but zero as a number, especially for a quarterback, is kind of weird.
Speaker 1:Zero is weird in football in general.
Speaker 2:It's a weird number, weird number in general.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I see it a lot in basketball. Of course you have Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, in basketball that's commonplace. Heck, you even get double zeros.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's Russell Westbrook.
Speaker 2:No, his is a zero. I don't think it's double zeros, I think it's just zero.
Speaker 1:But in football it's just weird. It's weird, Zach.
Speaker 2:Wilson is the guy that came in as a backup. I'm like you don't even have a good backup. Your backup is garbage.
Speaker 1:So if Tua gets a head injury, because it will happen. Your backup's gonna play like shit and your team's already awful.
Speaker 2:I just don't know how this will go. Anything but a dumpster fire for this team. Let's just tank again. Everybody was like, oh they're gonna, they should trade um tyree because obviously tyree kill is going off on the sideline because he wasn't getting his balls or whatever. And everybody's like, oh, the stealer should trade for him. But I'm like it's also a story that his ex-wife now says he committed domestic violence like 10 times during their marriage and I'm like I want to stay away from that guy. I don't want him anywhere near my team. We already did AB once. I don't want to do another version of Antonio Brown. English is hard sometimes, but no, the Colts played very good. But it's just a question of is it because the Colts are very good or the Dolphins are bad and I'm going to put the money on the.
Speaker 2:Dolphins are just awful. Next game Raiders-Patriots. Raiders won the game 20-13. This is something I was right on. Geno Smith absolute monster day 24-34, 362 yards, a touchdown. He didn't have a pick, but again that comes with Geno, that is what it is. But he was throwing the football all over the goddamn place and Ashton Jette didn't really do anything. He had 38 yards off 19 carries in a touchdown. But if you want to guess who the leading receiver was for this, Raiders team. It was Brock Bowers Five receptions, 103 yards.
Speaker 1:I know I'm in fantasy. That boy's going to eat for me all year.
Speaker 2:But no, it's just. The Raiders were getting the ball to all their guys and the Patriots couldn't stop them whatsoever. Their defense was absolutely Swiss cheese. I will give them a little bit of credit. They did not have their corner, their first-round corner. Why am I forgetting his name? Now, it's one of the good ones too. Oh no, who? The corner that they drafted a couple years ago. Who the Patriots?
Speaker 1:Chris Gonzalez.
Speaker 2:Gonzalez, he did not play in this game. He had an injury.
Speaker 1:Dude, he's going to be the biggest.
Speaker 2:what if, because that motherfucker's always injured, he's going to be injured a lot for sure, but when he's playing, he's one of become a.
Speaker 1:What if?
Speaker 2:because he's always hurt, yeah, always hurt but the raiders and their defense didn't take getting, didn't get taken advantage of in a way you thought the patriots would try to. Drake may didn't do all that great 30 of 46 for 287 yards, a touchdown and a pick. It felt like watching that game. They did not trust drake may to run the offense whatsoever and I'm like, well, this dude's a second year guy and he did a lot of good things for you last year. I get it. You don't have the same talent that you that you want, that you probably need. You don't have the same talent that you need to be able to run the offense you probably want. But like they just had it kind of had Drake May didn't play that great, to be totally honest with you, kind of had a lot of ducks out there, but like they didn't trust him at all to kind of win them the game like you would think that a guy of his talent would.
Speaker 2:They ran the football like ass 18 carries for 80 yards, um. Their leading receiver was kasham butte. Um. Six receptions, 103 yards. That's like that was their leading receiver. Digs six receptions, six receptions for 57 yards, um, it's just they didn't get, they just couldn't do anything offensively and they were at home, you would think this would be the moment where they could kind of open up the offense at home against a Raiders team that doesn't have a great defense, and they didn't do that whatsoever. So it makes me wonder, like, do they not trust Drake May, or do they not trust their weapons? I'm not sure what is going on there, but the Raiders took advantage of it and they won the game going away. So it is what it is on that you got Cardinal Saints. Cardinal won that game 20-13. Spencer Rattler was a starting quarterback, for the Saints Didn't play all that well. They just couldn't do a lot offensively, man.
Speaker 1:The quarterback room is so fucking ass. I have never seen a quarterback quarterback worse in my fucking life. Your options were Spencer, rattler or Tyler.
Speaker 2:Shuck, tyler Shuck.
Speaker 1:You were fucked from the start.
Speaker 2:That's what they wanted. That was their choice.
Speaker 1:I remember when we were picking games. I was going to pick the Saints and you were like you sure there's certain quarterbacks, spencer Rattler? I was like, oh fuck, you're right, cardinals, it is. And you're like you sure there's certain quarterbacks spent throughout. I was like, ah, fuck, you right, cardinals it is.
Speaker 2:You're like a dog hearing a whistle right there. My bad Hear one motorcycle.
Speaker 1:you're like, oh my god, dude, there's always something fast driving down the street, bro, there's one day this motherfucker he be like. You hear that bitch coming in the neighborhood and I fucking opened my patio door to go look at it, that thing was a fucking shitbox Civic. Oh, interesting, goddamn hatchback, huh With a turbo wine on it, I was freaking out. I gotta go find that nigga. I gotta go meet him. My bad, I really love cars, but bro he was.
Speaker 1:That thing was a man. You could hear him shivving. He came at it by his motherfucking Popping about 90 I don't know where he's trying to go.
Speaker 2:He's a turnip Insane man, that's fun.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I want to see. I'm so short. He slid that shit, he fucking He'd.
Speaker 2:In the drift on that. Oh oh Takes me back to Fast and Furious Fun stuff.
Speaker 1:I know I guess I watch those movies Makes me want to do Stupid things About vehicles. I guess I watch those movies. It makes me want to do stupid things about vehicles.
Speaker 2:Alvin Kamara did okay 11 carries, 45 yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1:Again, he's always going to do okay.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:But again, that quarterback room is fucking abysmal. Yeah, they would beg for Derek Carr back right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:They would beg for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, even though I don't think he'd be much better.
Speaker 1:But again he'd get the game closer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you would lose. The game was within a score, so it wasn't like the Cardinals ran away with the game. They only lost 20 to 13.
Speaker 1:It's crazy, smith or Atler was the number one quarterback in his class at one point.
Speaker 2:Oh, in his high school class yeah for sure, that's fucking insane had a netflix show about high school quarterbacks. I forget what they called it quarterback or something like that, but I forget what it was called. But he was on the show and everybody hated him from it. But even though he's it's been like five years since then but people still want to look at him as if he was the high school kid. I'm like, well, he's done a little living, so hopefully he's changed a little bit, hopefully. But the football hasn't necessarily looked great for him.
Speaker 1:And again.
Speaker 2:It's not like he's getting a lot of help. They're playing on a bad Saints team. It's not like they have a great offensive line. They got a few weapons to throw the ball to, but it's just. They don't have a team that can go ahead and get the job done around him.
Speaker 1:I think the best player they got is Chris Olava.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's pretty much it, man.
Speaker 1:Al Kamara too. I feel so bad. He's on that team.
Speaker 2:Me too, man Heck. If he became available right now, I would love the Steelers to go get him.
Speaker 1:I don't believe he resigns with them.
Speaker 2:He shouldn't, he shouldn't no.
Speaker 1:They have no future type of plan that I believe in. They're still in capo.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure it's going to be bad for the next five years. Kyler Murray 21-29, 163 yards, two touchdowns, zero picks. Did not play great, but didn't play terrible. Didn't make the bad mistake that's going to lose you the game. But again they were playing against an overmanned team in the Saints that they should win this game going away without much of an issue, I don't believe.
Speaker 1:keep Kyler Murray very long.
Speaker 2:Again, he's going to do enough to make you think you can win football games, but will it ever be enough to go think you can win a Super Bowl? Probably not.
Speaker 1:I do believe that if they start sucking halfway through the season, I do believe they keep sucking.
Speaker 2:Do I think they'll pay him another contract. That's where I'd probably say no.
Speaker 1:But I do believe this coming quarterback class is going to be pretty fucking good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they won't be bad enough to have to go get one of those guys.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying If it's not going their way after the season, I believe they just tank.
Speaker 2:Yeah, maybe, oh yeah, okay, that's not necessarily out of the realm.
Speaker 1:They have decent offensive pieces. They have. They have Marv.
Speaker 2:Trey McBride.
Speaker 1:There it is. Why, though, his name just?
Speaker 2:James Conner also a versatile weapon.
Speaker 1:Sometimes, sometimes he scares me in like fantasy and shit and betting on him yeah. Because sometimes like 120 yards, three touchdowns, four carries.
Speaker 2:Other times he'll do nothing.
Speaker 1:Like yeah, hell yeah, other times like 33 carries negative eight yards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no for sure. Three, four, three fumbles. I'm like what the fuck? They did run the football effectively that day. They went 27 carries, 146 yards. Average 5.4 yards. To carry was good. Marv did great five receptions, 71 yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1:He looked a lot more explosive no, it's almost like it was great. Uh, he just threw him the ball yeah, that too. That also helps. That was the stupidest shit last year. Someone dropped him a ball.
Speaker 2:What the?
Speaker 1:fuck, are you out there?
Speaker 2:for. Trammick Bryant also had six receptions, 61 yards. James Conner had a touchdown catch. Like they have weapons on that team. They can win games, but it's just. Can you rely on Marv long term Not Marv, but Kyler Murray all season to play? Well is the question, because I think Marv's going to do what he wants to do.
Speaker 1:Can I just tell you something? Yeah, I don't think I can live in a world where I have to watch the Bengals be bad again. Can I be straight up with you?
Speaker 2:I've thought about this recently. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:I can't go back to it. I can't go back to it, I can't. I was really sitting here thinking we only got this nigga for like five years and I think this is the second year of his contract Of Burroughs.
Speaker 2:Yeah the extension. Yeah, the second year.
Speaker 1:So we only got this nigga for like four more years. Yeah, I was like four years from now. I was like, fuck, you're going to do that. I was like because Joe Burrow is going to be like 32.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like so we can only pan another three, four years at most. I was like if his production is so good, right, here's what I'll say Quarterbacks last a lot longer, Uh-huh uh-huh, uh-huh.
Speaker 2:That's great, that's great, but will the Bengals be able to last as long as.
Speaker 1:Joe Burrow want to stick around, Exactly, which is my thing. And if Joe Burrow don't want to stick around, Tia against Jamar Chase would be like why the fuck are we here then? Right yeah, you're not wrong, tia's only on a three-year deal. He's gone after three. Chase is on like he got like four, so again, but again, if we get like, what are we going to like? I can't go back to this dude, I'm not going back.
Speaker 2:You've had a taste. You've had a taste.
Speaker 1:I can't do it, bro, you've had a taste. I cannot do a two-win season again. I will kill myself. I cannot go into a season where the only thing I have to look forward to on Saturday and Sunday is Michigan State. Fuck, no, I'm not going back to that. Those years were the worst years of I'm excited to watch Michigan State play. Let's fucking go the year where Michigan State was good and the Bengals were good.
Speaker 2:That's a life to live.
Speaker 1:Dude, it was good, we were fucking undefeated. That's how I say it, bitch, I showed up and then we fucking five touchdowns led up to Purdue.
Speaker 2:What the fuck, happened there.
Speaker 1:But again they had gone like a string of beaten ranked teams. We were the fourth ranked team when those guys were late Bodied, yeah. And then they got to Ohio State and they went you're Purdue, you're not even making a bowl game, get the fuck out of my face. And then y'all stomped him out by 50. Shit made me so sad. But then the Bengals made the Super Bowl. But again it all came crashing down. Michigan State couldn't beat Ohio State, yeah. The Bengals lost the Super Bowl, yeah, and they both were assed. The next year I was back at square one.
Speaker 2:The Bengals weren't ass next year, they just made the playoffs and lost.
Speaker 1:We made the UFC championship and lost.
Speaker 2:Yeah, in a crazy fashion Michigan State was ass that next year they were garbage. They've been pretty much bad ever since.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, this is the first year where I'm like oh, there's some hope there might be something here.
Speaker 2:There might be cooking With something.
Speaker 1:I might see a bowl game At least.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, that's definitely Not.
Speaker 1:At least I might see a bowl game, definitely a possibility Is that, like I'm not okay with that anymore, there's 12 motherfuckers that can make it.
Speaker 2:We can try to be one of them. Yeah, I know For sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're gonna get stomped out. We could be one of them. Yeah, Oregon's going to fuck us over. But yeah, we could be one of them. I want to be there. Or we could be lucky, play a shitty team in the Rose Bowl, take the Rose Bowl and go home. I'm okay with that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah sure.
Speaker 1:I'm okay with that. Yeah, I've only ever seen one Rose Bowl in my life. Yeah, I've seen one Rose Bowl. That's true. And it just so happened to be the same year I wanted to become a fan of football, specifically Michigan State. Worst season of my fucking life, I was 11. I should have reconsidered. Two years before that, the Bengals were just so fucking good. For some reason they were like 10-6. I was like, fuck, yeah, let's go. A bunch of winning seasons to never make a play.
Speaker 2:This is the bad part of picking the teams just to spite me, you know. Yeah, fuck you. You picked the bad ones. Yeah, go fuck yourself. You could have been a Ravens fan Again. That would have been heartbreaking in a different way, but you would have had a Super Bowl win in there, true but I could have also been a Browns fan, so I think I made out pretty good, I think. I made out pretty nicely.
Speaker 1:You nicely. I think I made out pretty nicely. You're not wrong. It could have been much worse. Out of the 14s I really could have chosen. I made out pretty good. Also, I could have been a Michigan fan.
Speaker 2:For me they could have been worse. Yeah, for sure, yeah.
Speaker 1:It could have been worse for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you would have had a national championship though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then I would have watched fucking lose the next 10 years.
Speaker 2:And lose to.
Speaker 1:Michigan State half of those years. Again, there's always a silver lining here.
Speaker 2:Yeah Of shit, silver lining of shit yeah.
Speaker 1:Yes, Again, I could have been a Ravens fan. That would have been worse. It just so happened I caught a Bengals-Steelers game and they were dog-walking the fuck out of y'all.
Speaker 2:It happens sometimes.
Speaker 1:They lost to you the first round of playoffs yeah, consecutively sometimes. Yeah, they lost you the first round of playoffs yeah, consecutively the next three years. Yeah, I got really interested in the football in those next three years I had a fucking aj green jersey.
Speaker 2:It was great, yeah, but again I can't go back to being bad. Look man, I think as long as you have joe burrow you're fine, but again after that we won't have joe, yeah and I'm not going to live that you have to hope that your owner dies by then.
Speaker 1:Fuck that dude. I need to see a Super Bowl before I die. Okay, I have to see one. I'm not going to be like the other Bengals fans. I've been a Bengals fan my whole life and I'm not seeing a Super Bowl. Fuck that dude. There's only like six teams in the NFL that don't have a Super Bowl. Yeah, how yeah, how the fuck are we one of the? How the hell, are we the best one of those teams Currently?
Speaker 2:No, we're the best. One of those teams. It's y'all, the Panthers Us.
Speaker 1:The Browns, the Bills.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they went to a bunch.
Speaker 1:They went to four in a row Body, body body, body, yeah, and there's two more, yeah, but they went to a bunch, they went to four in a row Body, body, body, body, yeah, and there's two more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're not wrong, and I.
Speaker 1:Over history. The Bengals are the best One of those fucking teams.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you've been closer as of recently, exactly I.
Speaker 1:Will not Live my whole life. If I make, if I get to 30, I'm picking a new team. We don't have Super Bowl by the time I'm 30. That's 10 years from now. I'm picking a new team it's 8 years from now it's 9.
Speaker 2:I'm 21 okay, you're only going to be 22.
Speaker 1:I'm picking a new team. I don't blame you. I have to. I can't do this again.
Speaker 2:But here's my thing You're going to get another seven, eight, nine years at Borough no, and you're going to be locked in.
Speaker 1:That's if Joe Borough wants to stay. Joe Borough's type of motherfucker will be like no, fuck this, I'm going to the open market. Yeah for sure, Fuck a trade. I y'all, I'm going to finish this contract and I'm going to the open market. And he would do that shit. He's petty enough to do it. Because I want to win and if he same year he's on the open market, jamar Chase on the open market.
Speaker 2:And if not, he'll just say he wants to get traded Exactly.
Speaker 1:You know what's going to happen. Okay, so I'm going to give y'all nine years, that's Burroughs contract, and then some can I paint you a little picture, just real quick, fuck your picture. We not the Steelers and we not the Ravens. We are not as good as y'all and we will not draft as well as y'all. Okay, but what if this happens? Fuck yourself. No, there's nothing. What if your owner dies?
Speaker 2:Owner dies. Okay, mr Brown dies. Fuck this. Because they want to make their. Let's be honest by the time that guy dies because it's it's going to be a few years from then it's going to be a 10 billion dollar operation to go ahead and sell it. So they sell it to the highest bidder. A very rich and wealthy man will come in and say, hey, I'll hire the right people, we'll give joe burr all the money he wants, and then you'll have a new stadium by then. It'll be a nice, shiny stadium in cincinnati.
Speaker 1:The thing is, we gotta play somewhere next year true, it's a whole thing, it's at our stadiums. We're not gonna think about that. We're not gonna think about that right now.
Speaker 2:That's a future problem. I'm just saying, in this scenario you'll have a new owner, they'll get new people in there, you'll have joe burr for a little bit longer and then you'll be able to be in a spot where, even if your future may be uncertain, you'll have a little bit more confidence that you won't have a cheap owner that's not willing to spend money.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no.
Speaker 2:And sometimes it's half the battle.
Speaker 1:They have till 30. This nigga's 88. They have till 30. No way he makes it another fucking eight years.
Speaker 2:I wish, I hope not, For your sake. I hope not If this motherfucker makes it another nine years good for your sake, I hope not.
Speaker 1:Nine years, good on you. It was never meant to be for the Bengals when the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good on you, this nigga has lived a almost a century.
Speaker 1:Y'all keep it, keep it, keep it.
Speaker 2:I give up. Keep that shit. It's not meant for me. I'm out, I'm done.
Speaker 1:Fuck this Like I can't dude, I can't.
Speaker 2:I get what you're saying I do and I get the fear I really do.
Speaker 1:It's not a fear, it's impending doom. This is what the Bengals will become. This is what they were with Palmer. They were very, very good.
Speaker 2:They won a lot of fucking games and then Palmer got sick of it and said, hey, I want out.
Speaker 1:They made it to an AFC championship twice, yeah, 1-1.
Speaker 2:Super Bowl got fucking obliterated.
Speaker 1:Did they make two Super Bowl? Yes, against the fucking Chargers. They were under man as fuck. Doug Flutie went out there.
Speaker 2:It wasn't against the.
Speaker 1:Chargers.
Speaker 2:No, it was against somebody else, but I remember it being fucking Doug Flutie Palmer wasn't playing at that point, it was somebody else.
Speaker 1:I don't know dude, Doug Flutie played a long time.
Speaker 2:Doug Flutie was not playing in the 2000s when Palmer was playing. I don't know, bro, I barely remember.
Speaker 1:Doug.
Speaker 2:Flutie's older.
Speaker 1:I was born in the 2000s, I don't fucking know I think I was driving the same car.
Speaker 2:I was born dude it's oh yeah, I know, I know this as much as I do, I know ending doom.
Speaker 1:They will revert back to the same team probably and I can't do that you're.
Speaker 2:You are on the ride of your life, with the quarterback of your life. You just gotta ride that wave and just enjoy it as long as you have it the next nine years at most.
Speaker 1:I'm done yeah, maybe, yeah at some point I'm gonna have a kid and by the time I hope to have a kid, by the time like 25, 26, right by the time I'm 30, it's gonna be like 5, 6 years, or he or she Is gonna be 5, 6 years. They're gonna see me Watch football every day. I'm not gonna Tranch this bullshit to you. You're gonna go be A fucking.
Speaker 2:You're gonna go be A Pittsburgh fan With Uncle Joe.
Speaker 1:Fuck, no Fuck.
Speaker 2:Come Fuck.
Speaker 1:Come on, you're going to go be a Tampa Bay fan, you're going to be a Houston fan with CJ. Fuck that Go be a Tampa Bay fan, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:Can't be happy about anything, can I?
Speaker 1:No, but they can be happy that their team is mediocre and made the playoffs.
Speaker 2:Okay, I can say that Go be a Tampa Bay fan, go away. Speaking of Fuck it, go be an Eagles fan. Yeah, they'll win multiple Super Bowls by then. To be totally honest, with you Probably Speaking of me being kind of happy with what I'm dealing with Steelers-Jets Steelers beat the Jets 34-32.
Speaker 1:Yo, your game was a fucking ball-tickling house.
Speaker 2:Let's do this. Let's play the same game again Positive, negative, you pick. Do you want to be the positive about the Steelers?
Speaker 1:or the negative about the Steelers.
Speaker 2:I don't wanters In this game in general. Okay, so I'll play both.
Speaker 1:I don't care. 34-32.
Speaker 2:I'll take positive. Aaron Rodgers played good 22 of 30. 244. Four touchdowns, zero picks. He played well. He was a master of the offense. He was getting the ball to our playmakers. Dk Metcalf was an absolute I'll be the negative. Okay, they got the ball to DK Metcalf. Four receptions, 83 yards. They got the ball to Calvin Austin.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He was like like, obviously the obvious number two. He was making a lot of big plays four receptions, 70 yards and a touchdown. We didn't run the football that effectively, but again, against a jets defensive line, that's actually pretty good. It was going to be difficult to do that elijah very tucker is injured again. No, he's done for the season. He's not even playing. What the fuck?
Speaker 2:yeah I know, um, he's been very hurt throughout his nfl career and it's just, like you know, the nice little icing on the cake that he's now missing a whole season for the jets. Um, for, okay, I'll let you go, I'll let you. Oh, watching this game, I was gonna have a quick, big, quick recap of the game. Then you can talk about all the negative stuff. Game was back and forth. Jets are honestly going up and down the field. We couldn't stop a nosebleed against them. They were running the football like crazy against us. It was a very like I'm not even going to say humbling. It's even worse than that.
Speaker 2:It sucked watching Fields and Garrett Wilson do what they did against my team, because not only do I love Justin Fields and Garrett Wilson because they're Buckeyes and all of that, but the fact that Justin Fields was on my team just a year ago and we let him we didn't let him walk, they tried to pay him, but they under so under, tried to underpay him, and he said, hey, I'll just go find it somewhere else. And he found it with the Jets. And to see Justin Fields play with such confidence that he had. He was running around all over the place, he was running the football effectively. He threw the football well, he was throwing accurately and he was rifling them in. He did not have any ducks that you think like, oh, this is awful, and he looked like that game might have been the best game he's played as a pro. And the idea that if we would have given him a little bit more money, we could have a guy like that on our offense right now and we would at least have a future to a certain degree, because even with rogers playing as great as he did, I know this is a one year, two year max thing and who knows if that's going to get us where we actually want to go.
Speaker 2:Even though there was a lot of good things about aaron rogers like he made a lot, he made a lot. There were throws that I saw him make even at 42, 41, going on 42 years old, that quarterbacks in their prime can't make. He may not be able to throw the 98 mile per hour fastball anymore it's probably like around a 91, but like he knows what he's doing, he masters the offense, you know. Like he's doing everything he has to do but he can't get away from pressure they were getting they. He was sacked four times in this game because he just can't get away and run away from anybody. But in this game they got the win.
Speaker 2:I was again. I'm sucked in right away because I I went to this game saying, hey, if we lose, then cool, we're awful, we'll lose all year, this year and then we'll go get a quarterback or something like that great player to help our team. But as soon as we started playing, we had chances to win I got sucked back in and I was cheering, like I'm cheering for the steelers every year, and I get sucked back into this thing where I just can't help myself watching this team win such a great feeling and I love watching it. So negative, go, negative, go ahead, go for it.
Speaker 2:This team reeks of 10-6. It's crazy to say reeks, because there's a lot of teams that would kill themselves for 10-6. But the problem is that the Steelers know that all too well They'll win enough games to make the playoffs, lose the playoff game. Reeks of 10-6. Yeah, 10-7.
Speaker 1:Because they play 17 games. You're right, 10 and 7 reeks of it um, yeah you already said it young niggas to cap joseph fields.
Speaker 2:He was out there dealing he looks so good, him, and garrett wilson were linked up.
Speaker 1:Fucking mental link dude. Garrett wilson was awesome man, he couldn't be stopped.
Speaker 2:We couldn't stop. He was dicing up. Whatever corner was on him, he was killing it. But again, it's Garrett Wilson, one of the more talented receivers in the NFL. But again, it doesn't change the fact we couldn't stop the run either.
Speaker 1:Nothing, dude. So you know your defense was shaky. Cam Hayward not practicing all season Did not help. He looked gas. Not having your first-round defensive tackle Did not help. Also, he's going to be gone for a few more weeks. Your secondary is any receiver that is a burner. Your secondary is fucked.
Speaker 2:We cannot play one-on-one defense at all.
Speaker 1:You need to play the Bengals twice. You have to play zone like a motherfucker, zay Flowers, even though for what he is he's not that good zone. That motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think Zayflowers is all that good. Whatever you want to say, he had a great fucking game.
Speaker 1:Talk your shit. His game was fire, talk your shit.
Speaker 2:We'll get to that, but yeah, yes, you're not wrong. He had a great fucking game.
Speaker 1:Now again, I'm not a Zayflower fan either. That's it. Receiver, he's fast. You guys cannot cover anybody fast.
Speaker 2:Ramsey did play great. He did play good, played a very good ball. He did Made an amazing play at the end.
Speaker 1:Fucking boomed. That motherfucker, great fucking play. I remember I watched that play and I was like that's something special right there. But again, new York corners are exactly elite or special. They're good, they're solid.
Speaker 2:Ramsey was elite at one point, but he's not quite that. He's on the wrong side of 30. He's not going to be able to be the elite guy every single week. It's not what he is. Not only is what they're asking him to be. I think they're asking him to be just a versatile piece all around the defense. Um, and it didn't help that um, joey Porter Jr got hurt in this game, didn't come, come back, wasn't able to play. So that's a young piece that does have the chance to be very good, but he just wasn't playing in this game. So again, it's not like he's the fastest corner either. So I'm not going to sit here and say he was going to be the difference because we were getting, but my thing is Y'all better hope that motherfucker comes back, or you're fucked dude Y'all better hope that motherfucker comes back or you ever fucked dude Coming out of this game.
Speaker 2:Am I feeling better about the idea that the defense will get better? Yeah for sure. There's one side of the football that's going to be bad that I can have confidence will turn it around. It's a TJ Watt and Cam Hayward-led defense. I think they'll be able to—maybe they won't be the top 10 defense in the league, but they can be a middle-of-the-pack defense that'll be able to make some plays and in the game, one of the big differences they know how to cause turnovers and a big turnover that happened. That really got the Steelers back into it when it felt like the Jets were just out and ahead and we just couldn't get the lead back. The Steelers scored two touchdowns in like 50 game seconds because they caused a turnover in this kickoff game. So, with that being the case, the Steelers just know how to make the play to get themselves back into a football game. But the defense doesn't need to get better. I know that they will. Will the offense look this good on a week-in, week-out basis? That's the thing where I'm like probably not. But if the Steelers can be 75 75 of what they were in this game, I can have more confidence that maybe they can win a playoff game, maybe. But again, I just need to see this more, many more weeks ahead in order for me to feel confident that I'm even going to get 75 of what this, of what this performance truly was. So I really do think and rogers played an awesome game and I think, gave you some vintage like, some moments where you're like, oh, that's why he's considered one of the most talented quarterbacks to ever play the position, so it was a good game.
Speaker 2:They didn't run the football effectively either, and Caleb Johnson must have had a terrible preseason. He got one carry for negative two yards Again. He was a third round back. Run the football effectively either. And Caleb Johnson must have had a terrible preseason. He got one carry for negative two yards. Again, he was a third round back. It'd be different if he was a first round guy. He'd automatically push the number one spot.
Speaker 2:But the idea that you draft the, the, the pick that you use to get him, is valuable and he only got one carry in this game a little bit of an issue. Will he be of issue all year is a big question. I don't think so, but if it is one of those things. That's a wasted pick and it could be a long-term problem. Maybe they might have to trade for a guy Heck if Brees Hall, if it's not going well with the Jets five, six weeks from now, maybe they can trade for a guy like him. But you need a back that can make a defense be scared of you, and they don't have that on their roster as of right now. No, but all the credit to the jets man. Uh, justin fields played great. Gary wills played great their defense, even though the steelers scored a lot of points. They have guys that can make plays and I think the jets will be a very feisty bunch the rest of the year.
Speaker 2:Um, giants, commanders, commanders win 21-6. The game wasn't all that close. Old boy Russell Wilson, ain't it? He's awful Ass, bad All the words you could think of for a bad performance. And that's exactly what they were. It's not like the Commanders played great, but they had Jayden Daniels. He made enough plays to win the game in the end. Um, their leading rusher was this guy they draft, they I think he's an undrafted guy. Jackery kroski merit tank carries, 82 yards and a touchdown. Um, austin eckler they barely gave the ball to at all so like they really do it like running uh, running back by committee, not to mention the fact that jane daniels is always going to be a big running threat. He had 68 yards rushing in this game. Um big on him. Deba had a great game 77 yards receiving um, go back up to rushing scary.
Speaker 2:Terry didn't do all that much but again he missed most of the preseason with him getting his contract together. So I think it's going to take him a little bit to kind of ease into the football season. But like the, the giants defense is good. It's just offensively they just cannot get anything done with Russell Wilson at the helm. He went send it 17 of 37, 168 yards, zero touchdown, zero picks. Like he just doesn't see the middle of the field well, and if you just get to him and get him off his spot it's going to be a very hard time for anybody to be able to do anything with him at the helm in that Giants uniform. So Washington won the game. It wasn't necessarily all that close, but you know, the defense for the Giants is actually pretty good though.
Speaker 2:Jags, panthers. Jags win 26 to 10. There was a I think there was a lightning delay or something like that in the middle of this game that kind of kept it going a little bit longer. The panthers are kind of bad. Bryce young 18 to 35, 154, one touchdown, two picks. They didn't run the football that effectively. They only had 113 yards total rushing. Um tett mcmillan made a few plays, five receptions, 68 yards, but outside of him it was kind of like by a committee. When they didn't really get a lot done, the Jags just kind of overwhelmed them. They just kind of like took care of business, got the job done. Trevor Lawrence didn't play great 19 of 31, 178.
Speaker 1:When does he ever?
Speaker 2:One touchdown, one pick. They ran the football effectively, though. Travis Etienne had 143 yards, rushing off 16 carries had a very good game.
Speaker 1:He's pretty good.
Speaker 2:And I hate saying that because I'm not a big Travis Etienne guy I think he's a good back.
Speaker 1:I don't think he's an elite back. I don't think he's a great back. I think he is good. I think he is a serviceable back and I doubt he gets another contract and becomes a journeyman. That he's serviceable.
Speaker 2:I don't think he's amazing.
Speaker 1:I think he's amazing. I think he's 1,000 yards back probably pretty consistently. But I don't think he's. But again I think he's of the good tier. Okay, maybe he's a starter for several years and several teams, but you know.
Speaker 2:Travis Hunter didn't do a lot offensively in this game Six receptions, 33 yards. I think he played mostly receiver and did a little bit of stuff at corner but he didn't necessarily have a great game. But again, they didn't really need him to um heck. Brian thomas jr didn't do anything either. He had one reception for 11, 11 yards. So it again, they didn't need a lot from their big players because carolina was so bad.
Speaker 2:But you know, you would like to think that jacksonville can do a little bit more against a very bad Carolina Panthers team and I think I told this before we started the pod. It was so bad from Bryce Young that I think it ruined any type of confidence that I had in him coming out of last season where, like, he started playing very well at the end of last year, and then the fact that he could not take that in parlay, that into any type of good momentum, first game of the year against the jaguars defense. That really isn't all that great. It's just it takes away any confidence that I had. And I don't know he's a good guy, but as a quarterback I've always had my questions about him in the nfl. But uh, we'll see. We'll see about that, um, jack nope.
Speaker 2:Broncos titans. Another thing I was right about broncos won the game 20-12. Bo Nix did not have a great game whatsoever 25-40, 176 yards and a touchdown. Cam Cortland Sutton had a good game 6 receptions, 61 yards and a touchdown. The running back that they drafted, rj Harvey, had 6 carries, 70 yards. Jk Dobbins also had a great game 16 carries, 63 yards and a touchdown. But this game should have been a. Denver should have run roughshod over this Tennessee Titans team. Cam Ward got sacked six times in this game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Blue was getting destroyed.
Speaker 2:He could not. He went 12 of 28 for 112 yards. He could not have a moment to breathe before the defensive line was at his throat, ready to take him down, and he doesn't have any weapons to really rely on in order for them to do anything One of his best weapons.
Speaker 1:What Cowan Ridley?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's pretty much it. That's the best weapon they probably have. He didn't really do anything. Four receptions, 27 yards. Tony Pollard right, he's okay. He's okay back, but he's more of a good number two back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, rotational guy. Yeah, rotational guy. Same thing as what I think, etn is yeah, for sure, but I just think with the.
Speaker 2:Denver Broncos should have won this game by 30. But the fact that their offense was so absolutely garbage Bo Nix did not play well at all, I think takes away from.
Speaker 1:It's just one game. It's just one game, bro. Chill.
Speaker 2:I am never going to get off this thing.
Speaker 1:Chill, bro, chill, you're blowing it out of proportion.
Speaker 2:Bo Nix will never be drew breeze and the fact that anybody could think he could be is a problem.
Speaker 1:Oh, that boy is never gonna be drew breeze.
Speaker 2:Drew breeze is him yeah, but if that's the best that this dude can be, you probably shouldn't have drafted him. That's the best, that's what they wanted from him. Nobody is expecting him to be a superstar, and what he did last year was, oh, it was remarkable, but like it wasn't enough for me to be like, oh, I'm gonna get off of this, my thought process on this. I'm like, no, he'll be fine, but is he ever going to be anything other than a maybe middle of the pack type of quarterback? I think not, and I think some people wanted to think he was a lot better than what he was coming off of last year. But then he comes into this year and plays absolutely awful against a terrible Titans team. Next game, 49ers, seahawks, niners win 17-13.
Speaker 1:The.
Speaker 2:Seahawks should have won this game.
Speaker 1:This is a barn burner of a game. Dude Real quick. We picked the Seahawks and you both said this game the Seahawks will lose. Yeah, this is a barn burner.
Speaker 2:This was bad and this was just boring purdy through two very bad interceptions in this game, like it was going the seahawks way, but they just could not give them the knockout.
Speaker 1:There was no capitalize on it exactly.
Speaker 2:Um, sam darnold 16 to 23, 150 yards didn't do any, really anything at all. They couldn't run the football of all that effect. They only had 84 yards off 26 carries. Jsn did great nine receptions, 124 yards. He could not be stopped in this game whatsoever. Um, this sanfran didn't have anything for him when it came to try to stop jsn from doing what he wanted to do. But when it came down to it, sanfran chris mccaffrey had a great game. He had 22 carries, 69 yards rushing, but add in the fact that he had nine receptions for 73 yards.
Speaker 1:So Chris McCaffrey was back to doing very good things for them. Good, he's going to have to do that every week since George Kittle's hurt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, george Kittle, I think they said he's going on IR, so he's going to be gone for at least four weeks, and they also said that Purdy is also hurt so, and they also said that Purdy is also hurt, so he may not even play next week, which leads to them having Mac Jones as their quarterback, which I said this earlier.
Speaker 2:If Mac Jones, being as awful as he is, can come in for this understeam and play well, if not win, I think it proves my point that they can do well with practically anybody at quarterback. And Brock Purdy is not good at all. Again, I'm not saying he's not good at all, I'm saying he's not what people think he is. When it comes to, he'll never be a top 15 guy, purdy. Not to mention that the touchdown pass that he had at the end of the game to win it, that should have been a pick the it just a tight end. The third, third string tight end just went up and took it from the cornerback and the corner should have easily picked that ball off, so that that was a throw that he shouldn't have thrown whatsoever.
Speaker 2:So even with, even in the win, purdy was trying to make plays for that team to lose and the Seahawks, even with all that, seahawks did have a chance to go and win the game at the end. They did have the ball last. But guess who came in through in the clutch? It was Nick Bosa, had the sack fumble and then went ahead and recovered it to win the game. Nick Bosa, when he's healthy, one of the best defensive ends in the whole league, and he came through big on that play. Because will this San Fran team, with another injury-marred season, be able to do anything? Probably not, because they don't have the defensive pieces they once had, other than Nick Bosa and Fred Warner. They really don't have anybody else and I think that Trey Greenlaw no.
Speaker 2:No, he's playing with the Broncos. Yeah, ricky Pearson had a good game Four receptions, 108 yards. He had the big play that got Sanford into scoring position. But like outside of that, like they didn't really have a lot other than Ricky Pearsall and Christian McCaffrey, and I think Juwan Jennings got hurt in this game and he ended up leaving too, so like they are so injured already. So I just don't know how this is, like long term, san Fran's going to be able to do, because everybody was looking at San Fran because their schedule is like a sneaky team that can still make the playoffs even if they're not much better than what they were last year. But I don't know. They're already injured. I don't know how it's going to go much better. Throughout the year, packers-lions Packers beat up on the Lions, not even close.
Speaker 1:Damn. That Texas Ram game was awful. We'll get to that, We'll get to that.
Speaker 2:I think the Lions offensive line is bad.
Speaker 1:I agree.
Speaker 2:Frank Ragnow, their center, who retired. They need to try to find a way to pay him whatever he needs for him to come back, because him and I think their guard got hurt and he's going to miss the season Without those two guys. They do not have nearly the same offensive line they did they had last year. And, yes, they don't have ben jones ben johnson who went to go coach for the bears, but I just think that more of what ben johnson did was more off the fact they had a dominating offensive line that's funny.
Speaker 1:Jared, jared golf didn't even play a bad game he didn't.
Speaker 2:He didn't do bad 31, 39, 225 and a touchdown. But it's just, they got behind to the Packers. Packers scored like 10 points very quickly and then the Lions just could not do enough to get back into the game. Jordan Love 16-22, 188 and two touchdowns. They didn't run the football that effectively. It's not like the Green Bay ran them off the field, it's just that the Lions could not get anything going offensively enough to go ahead and like make the plays to win this game and obviously one of the big pieces that they added being the packers, being um michael parsons. He didn't do a lot. He had one pick at the end of the game. He didn't really play. He only played like half the snaps because they were trying to get get him back into the season, especially with the back injury that he has. So, like the Lions, ran the ball for 46 yards. When's the last time you ever saw this Lions team run the football for only 46 yards in a football game?
Speaker 1:It's been a long time.
Speaker 2:Jameer gets a 19 yards rushing.
Speaker 1:I don't know. Watching this game it was like they were trying to force Jameer to give the ball.
Speaker 2:Try to get him outside to run and it just wasn't going where they were. They don't have the same left line.
Speaker 1:They kept trying to force to the left side, where Penasol was at, which is, at this point, the strongest part of their O-line.
Speaker 2:But even he isn't a great run blocker. No, no, he's a better run blocker than Bass Blocker. Yes, so like they were trying.
Speaker 1:They can get nowhere with it and, honestly, this is a game where I expected them to just run the ball down the Packers' throat.
Speaker 2:I thought so too. I thought, they could do it, but apparently— it didn't happen. And I think we all looked at the Lions' offensive line. We were comparing them to the best offensive lines in the league. It was them and it's the Eagles. Right, but I think the difference is the Eagles have an organizational advantage because they know what they're looking for in their offensive lines. They have a great offensive line coach and they say, hey, we're going to give you the bodies and you coach them up. We know what we're doing.
Speaker 1:So they have bodies on top of bodies on top of bodies right, wait, I will give the Lions this 29-year-old center, retired out of nowhere.
Speaker 2:Yes, but they also don't have guys behind them, your center's 29.
Speaker 1:No, I don't have a fucking guy behind him. Jason Kelsey was what? 33, 38?.
Speaker 2:No, Kelsey was like 35, 36 when he retired.
Speaker 1:Exactly. They had a nigga ready to go. Their O-line was older by the time the Hurts really got to going, yeah. So they were like, hey, we should probably build another O-line ready to go after them. And they did. They have more guys going, but again, your 29-year-old center just retires. Was he only 29,? Really he was 28, going on 29. Yes, okay, bro, wasn't even 30 yet has never been injured. Okay and just I'm done.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm done. I could take that I can accept that I can't.
Speaker 1:So I think they just Again. If they would've been like, if you would've told them hey, I wanna retire In the off season, okay, cool.
Speaker 2:Or gave them a couple years Worth of time. Like, hey, I'm thinking about doing Over the next couple years. They maybe could have Planned a little bit better.
Speaker 1:Legit at random. It was like a fucking Tuesday morning. Frank Ragnar retires.
Speaker 2:What the fuck, you're not wrong. No, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1:He was an all pro last year. He was that good.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm done. So, like again, how do you get told at the start of the season, hey, at the end of the season, I'm done. Because all season the finest center, all season the draft guy, all season, hey, you have to be geared up and ready to go. They had none of that.
Speaker 2:Okay, I think I'm not necessarily saying that the Lions are doing a bad job.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying the difference is that the Eagles have like a whole, is that the Eagles have like a whole. They know how to find dudes and just have them in waiting and kind of keep that thing going in a way that the Lions found a special group. They found a special group of guys on their offensive line, but I don't think they necessarily have a recipe for offensive line success like the Eagles do over years, over years. Like hey, it doesn't matter, we have dudes, we know what we're looking for. If we lose one guy, one guy, their right guard goes off the place with the Chargers, we can just get another dude that looks a lot like him and just come in and play and they can just keep the thing going. That's where I was trying to make. I'm not saying the Lions are doing a terrible job, I'm just saying they found a special group and now the pieces are being. It looks a lot worse now. It does. Yes, I agree, and not to mention, the Lions defense didn't look all that great.
Speaker 1:It wasn't, so no one expected it to look great.
Speaker 2:Didn't look awful. They had better. I think they had better pieces, it looked okay, right, it was fine.
Speaker 1:Right, a good team led better than the Packers, because the Packers, I think, are all right. They are all right.
Speaker 2:I don think we can say that. I think they have. They have enough pieces all their, all over their team to go be one of the best teams the nfc. But I just think the lions are just so inept offensively right now without their with their offensive line playing like that, that I just even jared golf, like you said, jared golf didn't play bad no 31, 39, uh 216 yards and a touchdown. He played great, but they were behind the whole game so he had to throw a lot more.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but again he was completing those passes.
Speaker 2:For sure, yeah, for sure. I don't know. They just cannot run the football like they want to.
Speaker 2:And I think with that it's going to break them mentally, because that's how they've been making their hay this whole time. It's like, hey, we're going to be very creative offensively. They're not going to be nearly as creative without Ben Johnson as their offensive coordinator and they're not going to have the offensive line they had last year either. So I just think that without those two things, it's going to be a lot harder for them to do what they want to do and win games this year, especially if the Packers are going to be that type of team and be a lot better. And next game, texans-rams you. Next game, texans-rams. You said that game was a snore fest. It was.
Speaker 2:Rams didn't play all that great the Texans. I feel so bad for CJ. He could not breathe without having pressure in his face. Cj went 19-27, 188 in an interception. They couldn't run the football that effectively. Nick Chubb was their leading rusher. Cj Stroud had to run the ball for 32 yards in order for them to do anything. Nick Chubb was their leading rusher. Cj Stroud had to run the ball for 32 yards in order for them to do anything.
Speaker 1:Nick.
Speaker 2:Chubb Right, nick Chubb again. Nick Chubb was a great back, but where he is right now, six knee procedures deep, not nearly the player he was when he was with the Browns and they just could not get their offense going enough. And even with all the struggles that the Houston Texans had in this game, they had a chance to go win it. Cj was leading him down the field. They throw it to their Ugambowale, their receiving back, and he's right there, like the 20 yard line, getting close to the red zone, and he gets the ball punched out in the Rams recover it to win the game. But it's just even like everybody's going to blame CJ for saying he's having a regression, he's not playing well. But I'm just like, if you can't protect him, be able to sit there back there and throw to the weapons that they have, cause they have weapons, higgins, their guy they had, um, the guy they drafted was their leading receiver. They did a lot Cause they really couldn't do anything in this game, but like they have pieces to be able to go in, but it's just that they can't protect him to go ahead and run the offense and they can't run the football either. What do you expect him to do, and on the Rams side they didn't play all that great. They did what they had to do to win the game.
Speaker 2:Matthew Stafford 21-29, 245 yards, one touchdown, zero picks You're crampy or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, both of my calves.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's not good. They ran the ball for like 72 yards. It wasn't like they went crazy. Puka Nakua did great 10 receptions, 130 yards. That's just what Puka does.
Speaker 1:His face cut open. Yeah, he did Real quick. He got his face cut open and then started going off.
Speaker 2:But he kept having to go out because he kept gushing blood and it's like, oh, that's probably a problem but I will say they made an upgrade, getting devonta adams over cooper cup and the idea that they didn't have to pay devonta adams much more than what cooper cup ended up getting paid kind of crazy. Because the idea that you now as much as you want to focus on puka because he's the, he's the main guy on that offense, but now you have devonta adams as a number two receiver, it's crazy kind of a crazy thing.
Speaker 2:So as soon as they get that offense going and Matthew Stafford's running at 100, they will be a very scary team to have to face. Um, their offensive line is a little bit shaky, but but again, houston's defense is awesome. So if anything that anything Houston has that a shining star is that their defense is going to be absolutely nasty. They get a lot of pressure on you and the defense is going to keep them in a lot of games. It's just can the offensive line for CJ protect him enough in order for him to kind of do what he needs to do to win football games? But that defense for Houston is actually very good. Ravens-bills this is probably the highlight of the weekend. To be totally honest with you, bills win the game 41, 41 to 40. The ravens at one point in this game had a 15 point lead. Twice I think in the fourth quarter they were leading 20, 40 to 25 yep it.
Speaker 2:So let's start with the ravens. Derrick henry. I had him as my number two ranked running back in the NFL. He kind of proved me right 18 carries, 169 yards and two touchdowns. He was an absolute monster in this football game, Until he fumbled late in the game.
Speaker 1:That's fine, that's fine, real quick.
Speaker 2:He can't be stopped.
Speaker 1:He's a cyborg. I don't understand You're 33. When do you stop? You don't stop, dude, he doesn't stop you know like running backs hit 30 and then they regress. You have not done that.
Speaker 2:He's a freight train dude. What is I don't know, but that's the thing.
Speaker 1:Your style of play, running backs with Joe's style of play last six years and they're done. Yeah, you've been doing this shit for almost 10?. Yeah, no, but I think probably about 10.
Speaker 2:Now Derrick Henry Unless.
Speaker 1:He played four years at Alabama and I don't think he did.
Speaker 2:Derrick Henry. Draft year he got drafted in 2016.
Speaker 1:He's been doing this for almost 10 years now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:This is his 10th year in the NFL.
Speaker 2:So he's been doing this shit for 10 years Running backs.
Speaker 1:Don't do this shit for 10 years?
Speaker 2:Nope, but he keeps doing it.
Speaker 1:It's how he plays too. That's the other thing he plays like a freight train.
Speaker 2:I'm going to hit you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I watched him. He dribbled a dude down the field, dribbled Like straight, bounced his ass.
Speaker 2:Dude, he just couldn't be stopped. Man Him and Lamar Jackson together as a rushing duo are absolutely insane to have to deal with?
Speaker 1:The other question is how do y'all keep choking away games?
Speaker 2:In the first half, ravens run away with it. They had like 180 yards rushing in the first half and I think it's a stat right, this stat in the nfl, that it was like when a team scores 40 points and rushes for over 200 yards, the team, that team is like 170 something and zero um in the nfl and then after last night it's 170 something in one. For how many times it's happened in the nfl, like when a team looks like they are running away with it as much as they were in this game and the idea. But here's the thing while watching it I kept watching I'm like man, the baltimore keeps hitting this haymakers right, but the bills aren't going down, they're sticking around. I'm like, oh my god, like can they really do this? And it's like it just feels like every time buffalo does something, baltimore just keeps hitting the, keeps hitting the shot, like just kind of throw it the other way, because not only did they ran the football well, but they threw the football well.
Speaker 2:The buffalo is missing both of their starting corners in this game. So like this they were dealing I think it was like a fifth round pick corner was one of the starters. So Zayflower, seven receptions, 143 yards and a touchdown. Hopkins two receptions, 35 yards and a touchdown. So they were throwing the football good as well. So when Buffalo just kept sticking around and they kept staying in it, and then, finally, the thing that happened Derrick Henry fumbles. It barely ever happens. He's not a fumble machine.
Speaker 1:No, it's rare.
Speaker 2:But it was the one play, at the one very moment where Buffalo needed it and he fumbled I think that was later on in the fourth quarter and Buffalo took it, scored and then managed to get the ball again and they got back into the game game and it was just like whoa. I'm like that was the moment where you're like, oh, they really can win this game. And I'm just sitting here like how can but baltimore keep doing this to themselves and all the some credit to josh allen and them.
Speaker 2:Josh allen 33 of 46 394 yards, two touchdowns dog on top of that 14 carries, 30 yards, rushing in another two touchdowns. James Cook had a touchdown on his 44 carries, 44 yards. Keon Coleman had a great game Eight receptions, 112 yards and a touchdown. The guy you love to talk about. He had a very good game. One of the touchdowns he had did you see the play where he, josh Allen, threw it, the tight end tipped it and then Keon Coleman just was right there ready to catch the football in the back of the end zone. So that could have been a pick, but it was a very lucky play. Sometimes you need lucky plays to win football games. So here's my question. This is actually something I heard that I want to get your opinion on.
Speaker 2:The Ravens are bullies. When everything's going well, they're a freight train. They'll run you over and everything's, everything's great and they're like one of the best teams in the NFL, yeah. But as soon as whoever they're facing shows, they get back up and they have some fight to them. It's almost like the Ravens don't know what to do. When a, when a dead body starts waking up, it's like, oh, what are you doing? Why aren't you just staying down? And then the buffalo just kind of kept coming back. The ravens defense might actually be garbage, other than kyle hamilton.
Speaker 1:That secondary was getting diced up like crazy um by by buffalo muller humphrey wasn't in my top 10, sorry, I don't think he's good at all like remember when they got um the corner from green bay um they got jogs, jr alexander and I was like, oh, this is a problem, like, but he couldn't do anything.
Speaker 2:He was getting burnt. He was burnt toast in this game. So here's my question to you in this game there was a point where the ravens had the lead. They were by two. I think it was 40 to 38. And the Ravens had the ball. They went for it. I think it was close to the two-minute warning.
Speaker 2:Buffalo still had their three timeouts left and they hit two running plays. I think they did a screen pass or something like end around for something like that, and they had a third and 10 that they had to go for. And they had a third and ten that they had to go for. Lamar throws it short of the sticks to Dee Hopkins. He throws short of the sticks to Dee Hopkins, gets them to third and three or third and two, and they have an opportunity to go for it. Sorry, fourth and two have an opportunity to go for it. They don't go for it and they kick the ball off.
Speaker 2:If you know, in this game your defense couldn't stop a nosebleed and you have that moment where you know your offense can't be stopped. Apparently, lamar said that he was cramping so he didn't feel like he could run at that point. But is that revisionist history just saying just try to help him on the back end, because if you're horrible, I don't know why you don't let your offense go and finish the game, because your defense was showing in this game they couldn't stop Buffalo. So I just don't know how that was. I just think situational football wise it was a terrible decision.
Speaker 1:Let your offense.
Speaker 2:Go win the game for you. That's what's been working this whole time.
Speaker 1:You can see a big motherfucker back there called Derrick Henry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, give the ball to derrick henry or if there's one thing y'all could do, very, very well run that bitch up the gut.
Speaker 2:Yeah, two yards, he's six foot three, he'll get it like come on I just let your offense go win the game for you, and I just feel like lamar was not the reason they lost this game. Lamar played great, he did everything he could and again, unlike other games where lamar has kind of like shrunk to the moment, lamar did what he had to do and like it was all the defense for the ravens not being able to get any stops, and I think it was on a hardball too for making some bad decisions, coaching wise, that kind of let them lose this game. So I'm just like I feel good for buffalo because they got the win okay. So here's my question to you. I mentioned this via text. No, no, no, you don't think so. No, you don't think Josh Allen like no.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm not going to have the convo.
Speaker 1:I just want to give you the feeling that I had.
Speaker 2:At the end Buffalo got that ball. They had a game-winning drive coming. They had a game-winning drive coming. They had a little over a minute left and I was sitting there like man. He's about to win this game. For me, it might have been the first time that I've watched Josh Allen play football, even though they said he has 20-something game-winning or game-tying drives at the end of the fourth quarter, which I didn't know but it was the first time for me watching Josh Allen play where I'm like he is in total control and I got the true feeling. Just like Patrick Mahomes and just like your boy Burrow, I did feel that cold-blooded killer moment from.
Speaker 1:Josh Allen, I have a question for you. There's two minutes left on the clock. They're down three points. The ball is being given back to Mahomes or Burrow.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:And they're down three points. The ball is being given back to Mahomes or Burrow and in your head, your brain goes this is a foregone conclusion. That doesn't happen with Josh Allen.
Speaker 2:I'm saying that was the first time that I felt that way. It was the first time that I felt that way about Josh Allen.
Speaker 1:I sit back two minutes left on the clock, Joe Burrow's getting the ball back. It happened last year with Denver the game's over the ball's back in his hands, you have fucked up. You should have wasted more time. You messed up by throwing a touchdown. You should have ran the ball down the field. Okay, there's no feeling. I've ever gotten that with Josh Allen.
Speaker 2:I understand you might have. I was saying that was the first time that I felt that way.
Speaker 1:Now you understand it's wrong.
Speaker 2:I don't think you tell me I was wrong. I'm saying does he have to build on top of that to make you believe he can be that long term? Yeah for sure, what's it matter? But for me that was the first time that I felt that way about Josh.
Speaker 1:Allen Real quick. This may go off when the Super.
Speaker 2:Bowl. If the both not in the playoffs, what does it matter? You?
Speaker 1:didn't beat nobody good, I'm not going to go down that route.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to go. No, you're going too far on that.
Speaker 1:Play me. I dare you If Josh Allen goes and wins the Super Bowl If Josh Allen goes and wins the Super Bowl without Mahomes or Burrow in the playoffs.
Speaker 1:That's the first thing somebody's going to say to that motherfucker's face. You Super Bowl without Mahomes or Burrow in the playoffs. That's the first thing somebody's going to say to that motherfucker's face. You didn't beat Mahomes, okay, you didn't beat Burrow. You didn't beat either of the top. You took both of your top two quarterbacks, who have whooped your ass in the playoffs on multiple motherfucking occasions, and then you go in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Okay, maybe it takes a little bit of the wind out of the sails for it.
Speaker 1:For sure, Also, it doesn't fucking matter that nigga can be as good as he wants. Eagle will fucking touch you and you won't like make you feel like you had a ditty party.
Speaker 2:I'm just trying to give Josh Allen some credit. See, he did have a great game. He had an awesome game. No, no. Again I have to remember you're a Josh Allen hater to the core. No, oh, next topic Go to the Minnesota game All right, sorry, I just want to make sure to put that out there. Would you feel better if you're the Bills coming out of that game or the Ravens?
Speaker 1:I'm the Ravens, my secondaries, as every game is going bill. Secondary wasn't great either again, but again, wait the bills excuses. Both my starting corners are out right the ravens excuses fuck you, don't have one true, yeah unfortunately for you, that's not a good way to go out like that and I think I think also to your point with the ravens.
Speaker 2:They've been this for years. They have been a regular season juggernaut and then, as soon as they go and face the other big boys in the playoffs, it, for whatever reason, fizzles, it fizzles out, and I think this game is like a microcosm of what they've already been. Again, it's not lamar's fault, which I will give them credit for that. Lamar was not the reason they lost this game, but maybe Harbaugh may not be the coach to get them where they want to go.
Speaker 1:I hope to God they fire Harbaugh and I hope to God we hire his ass.
Speaker 2:He would be a coaching upgrade.
Speaker 1:Mike McDaniel. I'll take his ass right now. No, you don't Over Zach.
Speaker 2:Taylor, he's soft as baby shit.
Speaker 1:Over Zach.
Speaker 2:Taylor, he's a better offensive mind. Fuck it, I'll take it. But here's the thing His offense does not work well in the elements, so until you have an indoor stadium.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't trust it. All four teams in this division don't have an indoor stadium. Right, so you've got to figure some shit out.
Speaker 2:The Browns will at some point soon.
Speaker 1:That's great, the Bengals.
Speaker 2:I think Denver also said they're going to have a stadium with a retractable roof. I think all the new stadiums that are going to come out are all going to have retractable roofs. I think the only one is the Bills. The Bills is the only new stadium that I've seen recently that's not going to have a retractable roof.
Speaker 1:Is there a stadium outside?
Speaker 2:Whose the building Don't play in a dome, I know, but they're building a new stadium currently. So I'm saying their new stadium will not have a retractable roof, it's just going to have like an awning. It's going to be like a soccer stadium, where there's like an awning that covers the fans but they still let the elements in.
Speaker 1:I like that. I like snow games. I like watching snow hit the field.
Speaker 2:But it just seems like because they're battling against people being able to watch their televisions and if they're going to keep raising the prices of tickets, asking a fan to pay $300 for a ticket and then go be five degrees, go deal with that could be an issue.
Speaker 1:I'd be damned if we ever go to a game like that at the year I'd be damned.
Speaker 2:We coming into the season we're like we're not going another game at that point we want to be comfortable.
Speaker 1:At least I'd be damned. I'm driving home at three in the morning.
Speaker 2:I'm it was bad. It was a bad time, so I'm just like bro uh coming down.
Speaker 1:Coming down from Pittsburgh, leaving we hit that little bad in Virginia.
Speaker 2:We about died. Yeah, it was bad, it was bad.
Speaker 1:I couldn't tell you what fucking exit I was supposed to take.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my head hurt, my phone was dying. It was late, you were fucking conked. Hey, I was falling asleep too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, you were conked, and I hey I was falling asleep too. Yeah, bro, you were conked and I'm the one driving and I'm over here no music on.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to lock in. I'm trying to lock the fuck in.
Speaker 1:I had to roll my window down. I had to lock in so fucking hard and it's cold as shit right now. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And so the NFL teams know that. So they're elements and I think teams are going towards that. Pittsburgh owners, I love you for paying for hot water in your stadium. It was awesome. That was like one of the highlights of the whole thing, Sorry.
Speaker 1:There is a luxury in life, and that was one of them Straight hot water when your hands are freezing cold feels like popsicles.
Speaker 2:Great time.
Speaker 1:It was so cold it felt like they were defying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, all right, let's get to the last game. Monday night game last night. Last but not least, bears beat the Vikings. I mean sorry, vikings beat the Bears 27-24. Vikings did have to come back in this game. They had to score 21 points in the fourth quarter to come back and win, but they did.
Speaker 2:I don't know how I feel about this game. I think Caleb is still struggling. His his accuracy issues is a weird thing for me, because I'm like he was throwing all over the place and he had a point in the fourth quarter at late in the game where all he had to do was hit DJ Moore going towards the left pylon. All you do is hit and he scores a touchdown walking in, because he was so by himself and Caleb Williams overthrew him by a lot. And I'm just sitting there like because did you hear the story about how Caleb has a learning disability? They're saying he has dyslexia. So think about it this way. This is how I kind of thought about it. Right Is that if you're going into to learn an NFL offense, the idea that you may have to learn the offense and then be able to portray that to your team in a pressure situation I can get the idea where that doesn't go all that well if you have a learning disability like dyslexia, right. So because think about it this way when you're in a game you're hearing it through the little microphone and then you have to portray that play to your team and then be able to do all the pre-snap reads and all that. And if you can't, if you have a little bit of something in your brain that is like making a little bit harder for you, I get the idea that it may make it harder for you to kind of be able to run an offense like you need to and then going into that game. They had a bunch of pre-snap penalties because they were like false starts and all that because he was taking a long time getting the offense going, going and play in, play out. But that I can't blame on him because he is who he is.
Speaker 2:But if he's not accurate and like, they had the one drive to start the game where they got all the way down the field to look great, but again, that's all scripted plays that have been talked about beforehand and then everything after that is the head coach talking to you and giving you the plays. You just have to go with it and Ben Johnson's offense is not necessarily an easy one. So the Bears did not look all that great. They they did not run the football that effectively. They had 100 over 100 yards rushing. But it's just.
Speaker 2:The bears just offensively, could not stay consistently going, and the vikings, even though jj mccarthy had his issues. He threw that very bad pick six um in that game, but it's just when they could get him. They when they were able to run the football, which is what they were able to do at certain points in this game, especially in the second half, and then they were able to use jj mccarthy and play action pass they were able to do at certain points in this game, especially in the second half, and then they were able to use JJ McCarthy and play action pass and be able to get them in seven step drops. Hey, go, that got there. You have this throw. Go ahead and make it just like he was doing at Michigan.
Speaker 2:That's when he was at was at his best and he made some plays in the second half with Justin Jefferson got some plays to him to where they were able to do enough to win this game. But do I think just jj mccarthy is going to be a great nfl quarterback? I don't think so. I think I made the conclusion that he just may be another kurt cousins, but again, that's all that right now that may be all the vikings need.
Speaker 2:But the question is will that ever be good enough for the vikings to go win the super bowl? Probably not, I don't think so. But jJ McCarthy has enough physical tools to do the job, but it's just can. If you get this Vikings team behind late in the game, can he just drop back and like pass you back into the game? That's where I have my questions. But in this game yesterday he played a very good game. They took advantage of the Bears, who were kind of fizzling out in this game, and they did what they had to do. So I will give all the credit to the vikings for winning this game. Their defense is still very good. Like there was a point where they sent eight people on a blitz and I'm just like man, like that's how exotic this, that vikings defense, is. They just won't do anything. They need to to get pressure on you and Caleb couldn't handle it and I'm just sitting here like I'm not. I don't, I'm not going to sit here and call the Vikings a great team but they have some good things.
Speaker 2:They have some good things going for them and if JJ can keep progressing, I think they will be able to at least be a respectable team, be able to win some football games and maybe get to the playoffs is playoffs because they're a talented enough team around JJ McCarthy to go be a playoff team and all that. It's just can they get JJ playing good enough in big situations to kind of win them the football games, to get them into the playoffs? Which is probably the biggest question? And Caleb is going to be struggling. I don't think this will get much better throughout the season and the learning stuff I can get over. But the fact that once you have your moments and you're throwing the football around, if you can't be accurate in the moment, like that's something that's going to be an issue because you're still going to get pressured, your offensive line isn't necessarily great, like those things are going to keep happening.
Speaker 2:And if you can't adapt and kind of keep going with it, then I just think even no matter what ben johnson's offense, how exotic it is, I think if he has to dumb down his offense to help you out a little bit, dumb down is probably a harsh way to say it but if he has a simple if he has to simplify his offense to help you out and you don't have the offensive line to protect you and kind of do the some of the more exotic things ben johnson likes to do, then you have to make some superman-like plays and if you're missing throws like that to dj more, you're not going to win a lot of football games because even though caleb ran the football while he was the leading rusher in this game, it's like there were some redeeming qualities there, but it's just in the big moment they needed you to make the pass and you didn't.
Speaker 2:So two okay teams played, vikings won. So it is what it is on that, all right. So that's the recap of all the NFL games that happened this past weekend. Story-wise.
Speaker 1:You had to pick Thursday night game.
Speaker 2:We do have to pick Thursday night game. I don't think there's. Oh, they signed Peppers Steelers. They lost their starting safety, safety Elliott in the last game. They signed Jabril Peppers. He's in. Okay, safety, he's not great.
Speaker 2:But, I think they need a body. He'll be a body. I think he'll be able to do enough to help us out. All right, so we do need to pick. The Thursday night game. It is the Packers and the Washington Commanders. It's in Green Bay. So what are you doing? What you thinking Sounds like the Packers Just having to make the pick. I would probably I want to pick the commanders, but I'm going to say the Packers. Based on what I saw from the Packers in the first game, If they can keep that going and get a little bit more out of Michael Parsons, he'll be able to play a little bit more. I think that it's probably a pretty good pick to go ahead and pick the Packers at home to be able to win that game, even though I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Packers go ahead and win that game.
Speaker 1:It's an uphill battle. I can win the game, but I think the Packers having a better overall defense makes me want to lean towards them. And they have Micah Parsons to get after Jaden Daniels, which is True, but the problem is, once they start running, it's when they start losing it, because they ran a lot of jet speeds with Debo last game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:So I do see a path where the Commanders can win this game.
Speaker 2:I just don't With the Commanders' defense being so shitty it's hard for me to want to commit to the commanders. Yeah, no question, especially if they can't really protect Jaden and he's running around for his life. Again, he's very effective. He'll get the ball out.
Speaker 1:He'll make some big running plays.
Speaker 2:But it can lead to some mistakes, especially with a little bit more talented Green Bay Packers defense. So I'll pick the Packers. You're going to pick the Packers there and that's about it. So I know we went a little longer here, but if you again, if you haven't listened for a while, if you're first time listening, usually our recap episodes are a little bit longer than our, like Thursday or Friday episodes where we do like the whole, just picks yeah for sure, picks and all that. So been a little bit. So we'll go ahead and end the podcast here.
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