JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
Brothers Talk Ball: College Matchups and NFL Showdowns
Football's balance of power is shifting before our eyes, and we're breaking down exactly how it's happening. When the Packers traded for Micah Parsons, questions lingered about whether one defensive star could truly transform their fortunes. Two games in, we're witnessing what might be the emergence of an NFC powerhouse as Jordan Love looks unstoppable and their defense completely neutralized Jayden Daniels.
The college football landscape provides equally fascinating storylines this weekend. Georgia faces Tennessee in a matchup that will test whether the Bulldogs' offensive struggles are real or just a product of vanilla game plans. Meanwhile, Notre Dame-Texas A&M presents a clash of styles that could reveal genuine championship contenders. We dissect every angle of these critical matchups and more to prepare you for a weekend of must-watch action.
Our conversation takes an unexpected turn through baseball's evolution, from the steroid era that saved MLB viewership to the development challenges facing young players in the Little League World Series. This detour reveals surprising parallels to football, particularly in how player development environments shape talent evaluation and career trajectories.
The most thought-provoking discussion emerges around defensive construction in today's NFL. Can teams even build dominant defenses anymore when rules favor offenses and salary caps make it impossible to stack elite talent at multiple positions? The Steelers and Ravens have mastered defensive drafting, but even they struggle to translate that into championship success in an offense-driven league.
Whether you're planning your weekend viewing schedule or seeking deeper insights into football strategy, this episode delivers with our signature blend of analysis, humor, and passionate debate. Join us as we make our predictions for every NFL matchup and highlight the players and matchups that will determine winners across the league.
Share your thoughts with us on Twitter @JBSportsPod and let us know which games you're most excited to watch this weekend!
welcome back to the JV sports podcast. Today is Friday, september 12.
Speaker 2:We're here back with another episode and I am Braylon doing the intro today wow, I was gonna do that part where I was gonna explain that you're the younger brother. That usually isn't on the pod. Jace will be on the pod here in a little bit.
Speaker 1:He's just taking care of some business.
Speaker 2:Taking care of some business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he has some business inquiries to take care of.
Speaker 2:You made it sound so weird that you could have just said the honest thing and been fine.
Speaker 1:I probably could have, but it's easier to say that.
Speaker 2:He's on the pooper. That's exactly where he is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's on the pooper, that's exactly where he is, he's just taking his little time so I'm here.
Speaker 2:Braylon decided to jump in just kind of do his thing here. So, um, yeah, you made that so awkward, but it was funny at the same time. So I mean, we're gonna keep it, we're gonna go with it. So we're back. Um, we have. This is pretty much going to be our all um previewing episode when it comes to everything, all the games that are coming up this weekend. We do have the one game to react to. That happened yesterday, being that thursday night football game, but I'll wait for jace to get here for that and I'll just go with the college ball stuff, just because that's the part he usually doesn't really do anything with anyway, because he doesn't care until it comes. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1:I don't really watch sports, so I am just going to be listening and probably on the thing, on whatever I want, yeah, yeah, no question.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I'm not sure what's going to come of all this, but you know it's all good Again. It can't get much worse than what things we've talked about on the pod already, so we'll just go with it here. College football let's go ahead and get that over with. I just have some games I just want to preview real quick, just the ones that are a little bit more popular. More just the ones that are a little bit more popular, more the ones that everybody's going to be watching. So I'm just going to go through them, give a general consensus and probably my pick on it, and that'll be good with that.
Speaker 2:So Clemson-Georgia Tech that game is happening at noon. Clemson looking as bad as they did last week against, I think, they played Troy. They needed a comeback effort to come back and win that game, but they're playing against Georgia Tech team that has a lot more talent to them, a little more talent equated to Clemson in comparison to what Troy was able to do. And my question about it is is Clemson going to show that they're the team that everybody thought they were coming into the season, or are they just going to show that they're the fraud that they kind of proved themselves to be against Troy. Was that a one-time deal or was that one of those things that's going to like snowball effect into something bigger? And I'm going to tell you right now Georgia Tech is a good enough team that if Clemson doesn't bring their A game, georgia Tech can definitely win that game. They say Clemson's a two and a half point favorite. I'll probably pick Clemson because I don't think Georgia Tech's defense is really all that good.
Speaker 2:But I do think if Georgia Tech comes out to win this game, I would not be surprised at all by that. Any, by any means necessary. No, no, I wouldn't be surprised by it. That's probably the way. I probably should say that, yeah, wisconsin going to Alabama. By all accounts, this should be a roll by Alabama against Wisconsin, especially with Wisconsin going to Alabama, but especially with Alabama losing as bad as they did to Florida State a couple weeks ago. But what they did last week, I think they rolled some FCS team, but they pretty much did it very easily. So it makes you think that Alabama offensively can be good if they decide to be.
Speaker 2:But I just think that what Wisconsin would need to pull the upset on this one, I just don't think they have. They don't really have a dynamic quarterback. Their offense is really kind of like a pro-style offense, but they really don't have a lot of explosivity Is that the way to say it? Yeah, not a lot of explosiveness to their offense. It's probably the better way to go with that. So, with that, I just think that I would love if it would happen, because it'd just be the funniest thing of all time, because, let's be honest, if bama loses another game, if they lose two of their first three in a season, they are going to have their head coach at the stake. I'm going to tell you this right now this would never happen with nick saban and if it happened, right, if it happened this season, I would not only laugh, but c Kalen DeBoer needs to get personal protection for him and his family, because those Bama Crip people are insane.
Speaker 1:Especially after the run Nick Saban had so long ago for so many years.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like Sabanitis almost.
Speaker 2:Right like Sabanitis, because there's a generation of people that know nothing but Nick Saban and winning. But now they are getting a taste of what it's like to be everybody else and they're not going to like that so much. It's going to take a little bit of an adjustment period, but we just have to take into account that the fans are insane people. So it's just going to be like a very bad reaction if something happens that way. Other games I wanted to talk about let's see, don't care about that, penn State's playing Villanova. That's kind of insane.
Speaker 2:Uh, number six, georgia playing number 15, tennessee. This game is probably the one of the more um look forward to games of the whole week, of the whole weekend. Um, georgia coming off of a game against Austin Pay where they did not look impressive whatsoever. Tennessee, on the other hand, has looked very impressive this season offensively, defensively looking okay, but they're not really all that dominant. But with Tennessee coming in with the new quarterback that they had coming in because of Nico leaving there to go to UCLA, why am I forgetting that quarterback's name, joey Aguilar, the guy that was at UCLA that ended up transferring to Tennessee once, uh, nico left. He has been playing very well and everybody's been kind of like rubbing it. Like everybody on social media and like the general consensus is that Tennessee made good and they they're coming out better on the back end of that whole big saga that happened.
Speaker 2:But I just think against a team that has a better pulse than the teams they have been playing, I'm not sure if Tennessee is going to be able to have that type of output, especially as a Georgia defense.
Speaker 2:That's not necessarily what they've been in years past, like one of the best defenses in all of college football, but they're still a very good defense.
Speaker 2:So it's going to be a very good test to see if Tennessee offensively can kind of keep that output going against a much better defense than they would have to play. But on the other hand, georgia's offense like can you really trust them to be able to face off against a Tennessee team? Maybe their defense isn't all that great, but Georgia's has done less against lesser deep, lesser teams in general and even though I think there is still even a talent gap between Georgia and Tennessee, it's not even close to the talent, not even close to is still even a talent gap between Georgia and Tennessee. It's not even close to the talent not even close to as big as the talent gap Georgia had against teams like Austin Peay, who they played last week, and it didn't look all that great. And it seems like offensively they don't really trust their quarterback to like throw the football down the field whatsoever. So what happens? Is this one of those things where Georgia has been just been very vanilla against teams they know they can beat?
Speaker 2:Or is it that their offense really can't do anything, really can't stretch the field at all, and will that make it a lot easier for Tennessee to kind of play them defensively? So that's the big question to answer about that. If I had to choose, I'd probably pick Tennessee. Just because they're at home and I just don't think Georgia offensively can just turn it on to play a lot better against this team because I just don't believe they really have the quarterback play to make it happen. But crazier things have happened. So I'd probably pick Tennessee. But I wouldn't be surprised if Georgia won that game, jay saying here, so I'll mention his Michigan State.
Speaker 2:Spartans do play Youngstown State. They should win this game pretty candidly. I think they're 23 and a half point favorites. So if they were to lose that game it'd be insane. But for my bet on Michigan State winning six games this year, I think this will be a third win on their season and I think that'll be well on their way to winning that game. Oh yeah, it's what happened, man. Indiana State nothing close to what Indiana is even though Indiana isn't all that great either.
Speaker 2:Next one South Florida-Miami. South Florida is coming off of two games this season where they beat Boise State in the first game, who was a ranked team at the time, and then last week they beat Florida in a crazy fashion. I think we talked about that earlier this week and everybody's starting to ask the question like what if they can pull off the upset against Miami as well, be the third ranked team that they would beat this season, especially being a higher, uh, top, more top flight team of what people thought would be the better teams in all of college football? I don't see it happening. I think Miami is going to take South Florida seriously. There's not going to be any of those things where they're not going to see what South Florida did last week and then just take and take them lightly. So I, with that being the case, I think Miami has a much better team, just like I think Florida had a much better team against South Florida last week. I just think that Miami is going to be a little bit more disciplined, I think even though I don't think Mario Cristobal is a much better head coach than what Florida has in Billy Napier, but I do think he's going to be good enough to at least have his team ready to go, and I think they do have a little bit better quarterback play right now with Carson Beck, so I think they'll be able to take care of South Florida without much of an issue. The line is 17 and a half. I think that's about right. But yeah, I'd pick Miami to win that game. I just don't think they're going to be dumb enough to make the same mistake that Florida did last week in the loss that they had against South Florida. Because I'm an Ohio State fan, I have to mention it.
Speaker 2:Ohio State plays Ohio. Ohio is coming to Ohio State to play in the horseshoe. Osu is a 30-point favorite. I'll be watching every bit of it. Hopefully we can just like last week. We can kind of get our second and third string backups in in the second half to just kind of see them play. But I just think Ohio State is going to be able to take care of business and win this game Again.
Speaker 2:If Ohio wins this game, hell will freeze over and I don't think we're all going to be living much after that. So I just think it's not going to happen. Ohio, like Ryan Day, is kind of becoming the new Nick Saban in a certain way, I think, with some of the mannerisms that he's kind of taken up on, like a mix between urban and um, urban and nick saban, that he's kind of like becoming coming off the national title. I'm thinking that because he has so much more confidence, because he knows that he has everybody's benefit of the doubt, I feel like he is kind of turning into that guy who knows how to consistently win and I feel like he's finding his style that way. Um, so I think Ohio's gonna win this game pretty good, pretty much going away um. The question is how fast? How fast will it happen? And I think it'll be pretty quick. Probably by the first half we'll be taking all of our starters out um yeah, um, yeah, 17 Ole Miss.
Speaker 2:Ole Miss did not look great last week whatsoever. They're throwing a lot of picks, a lot of turnovers with their young quarterback, but do I think that Arkansas has the athletes to win this game? Maybe, but I think only if Ole Miss gives it to them. And I think as much as I think Ole Miss is a much better, even though I think Arkansas can take advantage of maybe some mistakes I just don't think. If this thing becomes a track meet, I just think Ole Miss was going to win this game going away. So I think Ole Miss should win this game, but I think they have found reasons to lose games like this in the past, so I would not be floored if Ole Miss managed to give this one away. Any more games? Oh, lsu, florida, florida coming off. The bad loss to South Florida, like I said earlier, can they get off the mat to play one of the best teams in the SEC, as everybody sees right now? And then LSU. Their first game was against Clemson, who has kind of proved themselves to not be as good as everybody thought they were coming into the year. And then LSU didn't look great last week, especially offensively. So the question is, can Florida get off the mat to kind of challenge LSU? And that's where I probably say no. Even though I'm not the biggest fan of Brian Kelly as a head coach, I do think he's much better than what Billy Napier is and I think LSU's defense will be able to, even if LSU's offense doesn't do what they have to do. I think the defense for LSU will be able to hang on and kind of keep control of this game until the LSU offense kind of gets going and I think they'll be able to do enough to win this game. But again, florida, I think Florida, with what they're going to be this season, they're going to lose a lot of games. Their head coach probably going to get fired. It's going to be a whole thing because I think he's held on for too long anyway. And the nice young, shiny quarterback that they had, dj Lagway, has not looked good at all. So it would be one thing if you had a terrible team and your quarterback was looking good. There'd be a sense of hope. But that young quarterback that everybody saw as being one of the best coaches and one of the best quarterbacks in college football has looked nowhere near like that and I think that will take away any type of goodwill that Billy Napier could have that he got as of last year when they kind of went on that run at the end of the year.
Speaker 2:Texas A&M against Notre Dame I that's. That's probably one of the bigger games too. I think it's probably that one might be the biggest game Now that I think about it, notre Dame coming off a bye week it's funny that they had a bye week in week two. Like that's really weird in college football to have a bye week that early and then Texas A&M coming off of a win against some FCS school no, utah State, that is FBS, but not necessarily a great team. They won, but not necessarily in the most convincing of fashion. Their defense isn't looking all that great and so will they be able to do something against that Notre Dame offense. Last time we saw them the quarterback doing okay when he when they were playing against Miami.
Speaker 2:But I don't know, do I really believe in the Notre Dame offense to be explosive enough to like make Texas A&M pay for it?
Speaker 2:I'm not sure. But again, that's provided that Texas A&M can be better than what they have been, because I think in the S, in the SEC, they're like, ranked last in points per game given up and yards per game given up. So can Notre Dame get their run game going? Help out their young quarterback to be able to have more sustained, long drives is probably going to be a good question. If they can, they should be able to win this game, because I just don't think Texas A&M offensively is going to be something crazy to go against, even though they do have a young, very mobile quarterback in Marcel Reed. I just don't believe him throwing the football is as consistent as you probably would like it to be. But you know, I think Notre Dame probably wins this game. But this is going to be a very close one. I'm not going to lie to you, especially with it being at Notre Dame. I will give them the edge in that one.
Speaker 1:Vanderbilt versus South Carolina.
Speaker 2:That one is a close one. Um, south Carolina they have a very good quarterback, they have a very good defensive end and then everything else is a mixed bag. For the most part Vanderbilt is like, even though they're looked at as like one of the worst teams in the SEC last year they beat Alabama and they do have a quarterback. Um, why am I forgetting that guy's name, diego Pavia, who was like a sixth, seventh year guy in college football, but he's been playing for a while. He runs the football very well. They have a very weird offense to go against. They kind of do like some triple option stuff that's like very different in comparison to what a team faces the rest of the year against the rest of the SEC. So I do think that Vanderbilt is good enough to make this a game, if not all the way win it. But I just think South Carolina at quarterback will he be able to. Why am I forgetting that quarterback's name? It's Lenora Sellers. He's looked at as potentially a number one overall pick type of guy and if he can make some of those Cam Newton-ish and just he can be a little more consistent throwing the football down the field I do think they have enough to potentially win this game. But I just think vanderbilt just knows how to, as an underdog, come in and in these games where you think they should lose, and they come in and like, do something special. So wouldn't be surprised if vanderbilt pulls off the upset there. But I do kind of lean towards South Carolina in that scenario. Um, I think that might be it. Man, utah's a very good Utah is actually kind of under um, under the radar to it in a sense.
Speaker 2:Last year they had a down year and then everybody's kind of forgot. Utah was even on the map and they've come out this year and they've taken care of business and every game that they've played this year. They're a little bit better offensively than they've been in years past, especially being in Wyoming. That is a hard place to play um, with the mountain winds and all of that like. That's something that, like you do have to worry about. But I do think Utah has an overall talent and skill advantage that I just think that Wyoming will not be able to take advantage of. So I think Utah is going to win this game. It's just how will Utah be able to take care of business, or are they going to make it harder than it should be. It's probably the question on that and that's about it, for that's all for next week.
Speaker 2:That's all about the college game stuff, the NFL stuff to go to guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I meant like college. Did you ever talk about the Little League World Series?
Speaker 2:No, Go ahead, I'll let you have this one. Go for it.
Speaker 1:I thought you would have something to say about it.
Speaker 2:No, I know when it's usually all over ESPN for like a week or two, especially when I go to the gym. It's like always on.
Speaker 1:Well, it's only for like, only last 30 days.
Speaker 2:So is it already over? It's right, it's over right.
Speaker 1:It only goes from July 27th to August 25th.
Speaker 2:Who won it? Uh, it was, let me guess, hawaii, china. Oh, not surprised.
Speaker 1:It's Mountain Nevada. Oh, okay, actually two teams. I have not seen a lot of, but I just want to talk about the players, the players, a lot of the pitching looks elite. They look very, very good. It's just I don't know. To me the bases always look smaller, like the distance.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it sure is.
Speaker 1:Which is always something I've always had a problem with in the Little League World Series.
Speaker 2:And the fields are smaller.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think they should be playing on.
Speaker 2:Bigger fields in general.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where they play on.
Speaker 2:They say these kids are 13, but they're all built like 15, 16-year-olds. Because here's the thing when they make these teams, they're the best in their area. These teams, they're the the best in their area. So it does weed out like these aren't just like the little, like oh, these are like the normal teams that has come up, and like they're like the bad news bears type of teams. No, these are all the best kids in the place that they're coming from, and they're usually bigger, they're usually stronger, they're faster, um, and they're pitching faster. They're hitting farther and you have, like these small fields. Yeah, it's like, oh fun, they hit a home run. But I'm like this kid could probably hit in like another 25, 30 feet on that and it's still get over. So I'm just sitting there like it. I don't know, maybe they need to update a little bit, but again, I don't think they're ever going to be like oh, let's see these kids hit less home runs yeah, I think.
Speaker 1:I think it kind of feels like very. It kind of feels like a steroid era in a sense, where if they're making contact the ball is going flying. Uh, the the type of the amount of home runs they get should not be that much. And, by the way, china ab the, the taipei. China absolutely sweeped Nevada 7-0. One of the kids had a crazy outing, but I think that they should expand the field a little bit. I'm not saying they should be playing on 90-foot bases, they should be playing on a 300-foot field or maybe 350.
Speaker 2:Because some of these kids are hitting one of those that might reach 300. I don't think they're anywhere near 350.
Speaker 1:Like 320 dead center might be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably.
Speaker 1:Because the field I play on at high school is only 315 to the sides.
Speaker 2:Right for sure.
Speaker 1:But I think I just have a lot of critiques about the little league world series and it's like kind of it's very shocking to see some of these kids throw like 70 miles per hour off of a four, off of what a 44 foot distance.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's that short, it's like. I thought it was. Let me look it up, let me, let me see, here you keep going.
Speaker 1:But I've seen like the transfers of what it would look like from a what is it? From an MLB type of mound.
Speaker 2:It would be close to 108, like as the they're 46 feet from pitching rubber to home plate and the bases are 60 feet apart.
Speaker 1:They should play on 90, then they should definitely be playing on 90-foot it's just.
Speaker 2:I don't again. You see some of these kids. They look like the little small kids in their, in their team and it's like, oh, that's cute. But most of these kids are monsters. Like they're all like they're supposed to be 13, but they're all built like 14, 15, 16 year olds yeah and I'm just like at some point, like it just looks way too easy.
Speaker 1:It gets to a point where these kids are just getting bigger, you have to change the rules on how the kids are growing.
Speaker 2:But here's the thing, the people that are putting this stuff up on TV, a la ESPN, they're just looking for money. They're looking for the money, they're looking for the eyeballs and heck the Little League World Series where they have it in Omaha. They're not trying to make the game less. It's kind of like the same thing as like the mlb rules, like when they change all the rules.
Speaker 2:They're trying to make it more engaging for fans yeah I think they have it in a spot right now to where, even if it's not necessarily the most like um baseball, like they want it to be more entertaining for trying to get people to watch it's not, and they're not gonna, so they're not gonna change it, they're not going to it's like a middle ground between like harlem globetrotters and like normal basketball yeah it's kind of like that or like uh, what is it?
Speaker 1:banana baseball? Is that what it's called?
Speaker 2:yeah, banana ball banana ball.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like banana ball, but but in banana ball at least, like you know, the games aren't scripted, neither are, like with the league series, the games like some of the plays are scripted, but the outcome of the game is different. It's kind of like that.
Speaker 2:It's more just entertainment yeah, yeah, for sure, there's room for both, but it's just. I know the kids are out there, they're actually competing, yeah, but I just think maybe it gives them a soft sense, a false sense of security, by being able to do the things that they're doing on those fields and I'm like well, get here, a couple years from now you won't be playing on a field that that size.
Speaker 2:Yeah so does it help you long term if you're playing on these small fields that you wouldn't be playing on, yeah, otherwise and usually these kids aren't like, even like the in the in the past.
Speaker 1:Usually the kids don't even make it to make it to mlb. One of the only one of like the most notable ones is the who's, the dude from the yankees, the one that always looks high belliger, belliger cody belliger.
Speaker 1:Uh, by the way, he always has looked the same with his eyes. He always has looked like he's zooted out of his mind but uh, no, he, he wasn't. He was like he wasn't the best talent back then, but he is now a great talent, which he's probably grown up with the perspective of it's going to get harder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure yeah.
Speaker 1:And I play high school baseball and I'm looking around and this was an experience for me and one of my friends that was on the team. He was like I went from being one of the best or the best on my team to being not as good or one of the worst.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think that's a shock they have to go through.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think it's not as beneficial if you keep the field smaller. Yeah, but I do see ESPN's view on that, because it's business.
Speaker 2:Yeah, got to keep the games entertaining.
Speaker 1:It is business, at the end of the day, which makes sense for why MLB did it, but MLB does it in a fashion that keeps the game true.
Speaker 2:They're trying to, other than the whole steroid thing.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, the steroid era. Well, I mean steroid era was only allowed for so long because they I mean I guess it was kind of a low point before then.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, not to mention, they saw that the viewership was rising, so like, oh, let's just go ahead and let's profit off this while the viewership's going up, but at some point the players are going to get mad enough where we're going to have to crack down on this let's just let it ride for a while.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, which is why I don't.
Speaker 2:For the people that were doing it at the time, I'm not. I wouldn't be as mad if they went back on their thing like they. Oh, they should never be the hall of fame. I'm like, well, that wouldn't be a thing if you crack down on it when you had the opportunity to, but they, you took advantage I think I think the biggest case.
Speaker 1:I'm very strong in this opinion that barry bond should be inducted in hall of fame with the stats he had before steroids, because he had seven silver sluggers before he even touched a roid or even touched the needle he had any. I think he had three golden gloves before then too, he was already a hall of famer, with 350 hits, with 350 home runs. And there's also the case that taking steroids doesn't affect your contact. It doesn't make your reaction time faster.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it does affect, it helps you lift the ball out the field, but not your contact.
Speaker 2:And recovery.
Speaker 1:It does help, yeah, with recovery. That's usually what steroids do.
Speaker 2:Obviously your strength and speed kind of goes down once you get to a certain point. In steroids you kind of just bulk up to a point where you're not fast, no more, but it does give you. Here's the thing Either let everybody do it or let nobody do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think they took the right way of letting no one do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:Because we saw how fast Fernando Scotti got cracked down on it. It took him what a season of using it and he got. How much did he get? Did he get fined or did he get suspended, or did he get both?
Speaker 2:I think he was suspended for a whole year.
Speaker 1:A whole year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so. I think he missed the whole season. Or it was like the end of one season slash like close to all the next one. It was a bunch of games, bunch of games.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I think the overall consensus is steroids were good for that era because MLB was losing money fast. Oh yeah, for sure no one wanted to go to the games anymore.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:No one was seeing the entertaining part. They were just seeing pitchers dominate the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Until we got the steroid era with Barry Bond, sammy Sosa, all them people hitting home runs, and then they realized hey, people are going to stop wanting to watch the pitch.
Speaker 2:yeah, people are going to people people here for the long ball, becoming a the casual fans at least yeah, pitching, contact hitting is like becoming a very, very uh niche topic to oh yeah, it's like the way that they play baseball now is either we want you to hit, hit it out of the stadium or you want, or you want to be very, very fast yeah, and it's just that not really a lot of room for just hitting the ball, getting contact and just getting on base.
Speaker 2:We're getting it back to that a little bit more, especially with how pitching has kind of dominated the space a little bit. Yeah, but like for the most part, like they'd rather you hit the long ball because it's just it, numbers wise, you just get more out it, at least when it comes to how they do the stats and all that. I don't know man, can I talk about speed?
Speaker 1:in MLB real quick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, speed in.
Speaker 1:MLB is like is either the worst hindrance you can have or the best, because we have people like. We have the older generation of people like Ricky Henderson. Mm-hmm 935 stolen bases in his career you can check that if you want to um crazy. And he played for what close to close to 11 seasons maybe a little bit over a little bit more than that, but ricky henderson he has.
Speaker 1:I think his gap is from the stolen base record gap is from 900 to 700. It's like 900 to 800 or 900 to 700. Something like that. The gap is massive.
Speaker 2:He had a stolen MV record 1400.
Speaker 1:1400?.
Speaker 2:Stolen bases yeah.
Speaker 1:Who's in second?
Speaker 2:Let's see Stolen bases Record. Ricky Anderson has the most and then second most you have Lou Brock.
Speaker 1:He's at like what 1100 938 938 as a second. That is a.
Speaker 2:Ricky Anderson did play 25 years in the MLB but one of my main points was there's there.
Speaker 1:There are people that were, that were very, that were cursed by the by the time they were in bill billy. Billy ham Hamilton is my main example.
Speaker 2:Third on the list.
Speaker 1:Third on the list with only like six seasons 912, 14 years, my boy 14 years. How much of that was like actual professional.
Speaker 2:He had 1,500 games in his career my guy 1,500?. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, none of them were like he started and that was in a time. Yeah, none of them were like he started and that was in a time. Yeah, a lot of those were a time where, like, he played for a while for the Reds, like the first six years of his career.
Speaker 3:But then a lot of it was just hey, you are a stolen base master and that's it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he couldn't make contact for the life of them. And that was Biggest problem couldn't hit the ball.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he couldn't make contact for the life of him and that was Biggest problem, couldn't hit the ball. Yeah, also played in the 1800s. So you know, wasn't like they were Billy Hamilton, billy Hamilton, no, his birth date was 1866. Joe, we are no Nigga what.
Speaker 1:That's Billy Billy.
Speaker 2:Hamilton yeah.
Speaker 3:What? What perk 30 are you off of? What? What perk 30 are you off of Am?
Speaker 2:I crazy. Yes, billy Hamilton.
Speaker 3:Bro played in the World Series. What?
Speaker 2:are you talking about Different Billy Hamilton? There's a different one, there's multiple. I don't think this Billy Hamilton has the same stats, though I don't think he's the one that's third on the stolen bases. He has 326. Different Billy Hamilton.
Speaker 1:How'd you get Billy Hamilton?
Speaker 2:You had me look up the most stolen bases in MLB history and Billy Hamilton is third on the list SB right here. Stolen bases 326. Let's see how many seasons it's not saying oh, 20, 10 years, 11 years, 11 years, yeah.
Speaker 1:He did not play a lot in those last.
Speaker 3:No, he was a pinch runner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 3:Like I said, he played for six actual years and then he was just a pinch runner.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I'm not sure if it has the same point, if that's not the Billy Hamilton that is third in all time stolen bases. Different Billy.
Speaker 3:Hamilton. What was the point?
Speaker 2:We were talking about the most stolen bases, and that's what Braille Well. Speed was a valuable thing. I think it was more valuable back then than it is now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because back then it was hit the ball on the ground and leg it out.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Who no?
Speaker 2:that Billy Hamilton was not even close. No, no, no, he wasn not even close.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, he wasn't even close dude. I remember his first game was probably like 2007, dude.
Speaker 2:His first season was in 2013. Damn he played that fucking little 2013 to 2023, 11 seasons.
Speaker 3:So do I? I remember playing like 2007. No Jesus.
Speaker 2:Steroid Era was the 90s, my boy Early 2000s. Yeah, but like the high point was in the mid-90s.
Speaker 3:Yes, but again he's right, it did leash into the 2000s.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, you were talking about the A-Rod it wasn't like 04, 05.
Speaker 3:They were like hey, we got to hunker down on this.
Speaker 2:Oh no, no, no, it was a thing, but people were still getting caught. Like I said, a-rod Barry Bonds, you still had some guys hanging on and still doing it, but that was the time they were really trying to lock it down. Like, hey, we more strict on the testing and all of that. Did you talk about baseball this whole time? We got through college football in like 20 minutes.
Speaker 3:Oh sweet Again. It's hilarious, I can do that when you're not here.
Speaker 2:Was he like talking back to?
Speaker 3:you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to a certain degree. Again, he didn't go straight silent like you do, but he added a little bit.
Speaker 3:I don't give a flying fuck about college football. I know what do you't need to talk about.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I talked about your Spartans for a second, but they're 23-point favorites. They should be fine. It's 6-6-6.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm going to just be a game. They fucking lose.
Speaker 2:No, I need my bet to win. So no, I need them to win Three wins in the first three weeks of the year. That'd be awesome for me. It'd be a first for me. Oh yeah, I was going to say you went like 11. You were like 11 and 2. 11 and 2. And you were like 10 and 0 when you guys faced Ohio State. Also about the year that you guys we were 10 and 0. You were 10 and 0, faced Ohio State no, no, no.
Speaker 2:We were 10 and 1. Did you lose before you got to us? Purdue? Oh yeah, it did. Go on that. Run a little bit there, michael, and then they were called the.
Speaker 3:I think they were called Giant Slayers.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. I remember you saying.
Speaker 3:You were like I don't give a fuck, it's Purdue, it's Purdue. He was like you know what we're going to do? By halftime we'll be up 30. By you were up 45.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And had three interceptions and their backup was in.
Speaker 2:Well, we did have Ryan Day at that point. It changes things a little bit because Urban likes to lose those games. Ryan Day is nowhere near that. So, but yeah, that's it for college football. We got nothing else on that. Let's go ahead and get to the stuff that Jace truly talks about. So well, he truly cares about.
Speaker 3:Did you watch any of the game last night?
Speaker 2:Packers and Washington. No, I was playing with my tortoise, okay. Well, I'll give you the kind of general consensus. I think I might have to take back things I said about Green Bay coming into the year they might be a wagon, because coming into the season they traded for Micah Parsons. That was a lot of fanfare coming out of that and my question was does he make the defense a lot better this, that and the other? And is Jordan Love even going to be good enough to make it matter to have a player of that caliber.
Speaker 2:Through two games of the year, jordan Love has been lights out. He might be the biggest question that Green bay has left is can he sustain because we have not seen jordan love do this throughout his nfl career so far go from start of the year to finish of the year, healthy and playing good football all at the same time? Because that had has not necessarily been the case throughout his whole career, but through two games so far he has looked very good. The defense for the Packers oh, by the way, packers won the game 27-18. I didn't mention that before.
Speaker 3:No, I saw the score. I didn't like.
Speaker 2:Well, I was saying it for the record for everybody listening, because you know I just didn't mention it, but they won the game it was. I will say the one thing about the Packers' defense is that they had a plan of dealing with Jayden Daniels. They had, not only was their defensive line Commanders, 0-2?.
Speaker 2:No, they're 1-1 because they beat the Giants the first game of the year. Their defensive line was able to get after him, being able to keep him from being able to sit back there comfortably, but what they were truly able to do is that they were able to kind of have their defense to where they were able to lock the dude in. Would you like to guess how many rushing yards Jaden Daniels had, the guy that has been able to run roughshod over everybody in the NFL last year? Negative four. Well, it wasn't quite that bad, but he had 17 yards rushing.
Speaker 2:First thought was 19 and I'm like for a good portion of the game he couldn't do anything at all and so I think green bay has shown a lot of teams, the nfc, that if you can kind of get after him but also keep him contained, that is probably the best way to go against his washington team. I think it also proves that washington's offensive line is kind of a problem. Not great, they have a rookie offensive right tackle that they just drafted that didn't play all that well. But again, against the Green Bay Packers defense line is actually very good at getting after the passer, so maybe he'll be able to play better throughout the year. If not against the Green Bay Packers, because they didn't even get to a point where the secondary was even able to be tested, because they just they got so much pressure on Jaden to where he was just never comfortable throughout the game.
Speaker 2:Um, for Washington's uh defense could not stop Jordan Love whatsoever. I think Jordan Love averaged like nine yards a play, but there was a point in the game where he was averaging like 18 because he was just every play was a big play. Um, they ran the football effectively. Green bay did. I think josh jacobs had 84 yards and a touchdown off 23 carries.
Speaker 2:The leading receiver for this game was tucker craft six receptions, 124 yards and a touchdown damn they did lose jayden reed in this game, I think early on, like in the first quarter, like he ended up, um, I think, breaking his collarbone or something like that, so like he's gonna be out for a while, but like they still were able to get a whole bunch of big plays going and they just kind of like had washington in a hole and with their defense that they just couldn't get out of yeah um, michael parson is really good and, again, I've never questioned whether he was good or not.
Speaker 2:I was just questioning whether he was the top defensive end in the sport.
Speaker 1:He's still not, which I still don't think he is, I don't either.
Speaker 2:But here's my thing. Do you know? The one thing we question about being in Green Bay is the teams you would have to face. They'd be able to run the football, and that's what Micah Parson is good at. They might have gotten Micah. Parsons at the perfect time, because through the first week of the season, guess who didn't look good at running the football? Detroit. Their offensive line looked like they were in shambles and they ran for like 50-something yards total in a game against a team.
Speaker 2:They should have easily run the football on the Vikings. They look okay at running the football, but can you trust that with JJ McCarthy, Is he going to be enough of a threat throwing the football to make you?
Speaker 3:have to do both.
Speaker 2:And then you're also dealing with Chicago and they are a mixed bag of shit. So the teams they would have to face the teams we thought would be able to run the football on them and really challenge Micah Parsons being the guy those teams don't look like they're as good. So the way that I'm looking at this is like not only did Green Bay get one of the better defensive players in football, but the teams they would have to face to get to where they need to go. The only team that looks like they're going to be able to challenge them that way is the Eagles and be able to run the football and get after Micah Parsons. But is the Eagles and be able to run the football and get after Micah Parsons? But outside of that, what team is going to be able to try to go at Green Bay that way, to where they will have to be able to guard the run as well as the pass? And I just think that there's not going to be enough teams. So I just think Green Bay might be set up to make a long run in the NFL this year.
Speaker 2:Do not drink my drink, negro, at all. God. I try to hide it because I'm sitting there like man. He's tall, he's not going to look that far up top. As soon as you went low, I'm like no, don't drink my drink. Like I said, I just think Green Bay might be a wagon and I might have to revise the way I look at them. But again, the biggest question left is will Jordan Love be able to have the same output for our whole season? And that's where I kind of still have my question to be answered. But through two games they look like a wagon and it looks like not many teams may be able to stop them throughout the rest of the year but still still have hope in Philly, but outside of them, I just don't know if there's going to be a team that's going to be able to. Can you think of a team that could even run the football effectively and make them question that I just don't. In the NFC, like Detroit was the team.
Speaker 2:It was, but as of right now they don't look like they're going to be able to run the football effectively like that. It's Philly, I guess, maybe San.
Speaker 3:Fran Philly would be the one San Fran's too hurt and you really can't trust that. I know that's all San.
Speaker 2:Fran can do right now is run the football. They really didn't run the football that effectively. Chris McCaffrey did more work getting receptions than he actually was running the football. Yeah, so I can't really think of anybody else Like the Rams. No, they're more of a passing team, obviously. I think the Rams are actually more of a mixed. No, they run the football. They do a fair mix of both. They do both, but they're not an overpowering.
Speaker 3:No, but they're a scary run the ball team because they've been dropping nukes when you all game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure, and Kyle.
Speaker 3:Williams has ran on you for 130 yards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dropping nukes when you all game, yeah for sure, has ran on you for 130 yards. Yeah, no, you're not wrong, but it's just, I just don't know if there's an overpowering rushing offense, it's going to be able to challenge green band that way, like I thought, coming into the year, just prick yourself the pen, my guy, what are we doing? No, no, that's a terrible idea. Um, I'm not gonna add any context that, we're just gonna let that ride. But that's pretty much it for the game.
Speaker 2:Man, I'm just like and okay, and by the way, this is my psa to anybody out there, to anybody that was talking shit about um cj stroud last year, keep that same energy for jane daniels. If he has this year where his offensive line isn't doing enough for him and he's not able to run because he can't like defensive start kind of locking in on trying to keep him contained. Have that same energy for him that you had for cj stroud last year. And like everybody's saying that he regressed, they were on his ass last year man like everybody's saying that he regressed.
Speaker 3:They were on his ass last year man like everybody's like, oh, he regressed so much, he's doing so awful, and I'm like, no, it's online, fucking sucks yes, and it does this year to me, the fuck off.
Speaker 2:It made me very upset and and it made jace upset, when he's not even the big ohio safe fan that's me but it's just like when he's doing his thing and everybody else is not doing theirs, you have to kind of like put everything in their proper context. So, so my Bane PSA is keep that same energy for Jaden Daniels, who everybody wanted to make him a top five quarterback and coming into the season after he had one year of doing what he did last year, which was for sure dominant, getting all the way to the NFC championship game.
Speaker 2:But, it might be a little bit of a struggle this year and you better keep that same energy Because if you don't, I for sure will Don't make me have to go ahead and start being that guy Because I like Jaden Daniels, I really like him playing. But keep that same energy, because everybody's going to keep doing this about CJ. And they're going to be dealing with this. Yeah, I even went back and listened to it to make sure, because I couldn't forget. I kind of forget.
Speaker 2:I'm like man did I switch up and go to Washington. The Bengals is at one.
Speaker 3:I'm going to have to call off and take that right up. I've been telling them for weeks I'm not working Sundays, no more. I work every Saturday. For you, what's tomorrow? All right, I what's?
Speaker 2:tomorrow. Alright, I need Sunday off, fuck Michigan State. But yeah, I was like keep that same energy because I think Washington may oh yeah, jacksonville, it better be. I don't think they can do the whole seven yards for half of the game and be able to win, so they better be able to get that together. But no, it was a very good game last night, even though it was a little bit boring, but it's just like an enlightening game because it's just. It may be put in a content on context that, like green bay may be that team, it may be the euro. Do you know the? The going stat is uh, this is like the weird thing they kept talking about last night was that brett farve. The one thing that Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2:Aaron Rodgers, who was the quarterback, bart Starr they all won the Super Bowl at 27 years old. And guess what? Jordan loves 27 he turns 27 in November, one of those like debt written in the stars type of things where you're like, oh, like could it actually be that type of year, but like that's a weird stat that they were talking about Last night.
Speaker 3:They're gonna keep picking up quarterbacks right at a good time, like how old are you? 21? Alright, we'll get rid of a quarterback by then.
Speaker 2:But you have to give Green Bay their credit, like they have done this. Think about how many quarterbacks the Browns have since 2000 and in that same time they've had Green Bay's had two, maybe three if you're talking about the late years of Brett Favre in that same amount of time.
Speaker 3:You think, okay, above or below. The Browns have had above or below 25 quarterbacks oh, above, for sure, again.
Speaker 2:Not like they were all, like they thought they were going to save their franchise guys, but they've all taken starts for them Above or below 30. I think it was around 30 was the last time I saw that jersey. It had like 30 names on it. That's like the going joke is that the Browns jersey keeps having a whole bunch of names on it of all the quarterbacks that have taken starts.
Speaker 3:for them, a Browns jersey must be hell.
Speaker 2:Being a Browns fan is hell.
Speaker 3:I know, but like could you imagine trying to find one motherfucker that's good on the team? You could probably go to a Browns game and see 157 Miles Garrett jerseys.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, there's no reason to buy different jerseys. Him and Denzel Ward. Him and Denzel Ward are the only ones. I guess Nick Chubb he had his fanfare there for a little bit. He was there. What seven years, five, six, something like that.
Speaker 3:I don't know, he he got a contract, so he was there I remember him dogging the shit out of the Bengals and he's been pretty good for Houston.
Speaker 2:He was fine. He had like 48, 40-something yards For what he is. That was fucking amazing.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, the fact you're up and walking and running around.
Speaker 2:After all the knee injuries he's had for sure? No, I can agree to that. What?
Speaker 3:is that 54? Like, what the fuck are you doing, bro?
Speaker 2:No, yeah, especially with how many times he's done it.
Speaker 3:He's done it so many times, dude, it's just like no this motherfucker gets another knee injury and he's like no, I'm good, I'll be back, I'll be back, and he keeps coming back, man, even though he did not look great. The first game of the season. Again, he's probably not explosive. No more yeah.
Speaker 2:But again, if you need a bruiser of a back who can cut, we get to the making our picks tyree kill. His whole uh, divorce thing. His ex, the estranged wife, is saying that he domestic violence stuff happened like eight times. They asked him about it he said his focus is on football, not about abuse allegations, which is hilarious to say because you know that's like it's insane.
Speaker 3:It's insane, probably shot himself yeah like dude just don't, dude, that is the most incriminating shit yeah've ever heard in my fucking life. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2:Purdy is not going to be playing this week. He is dealing with his right shoulder issue and turf toe, I believe. So he is not going to. Like I said, Mac Jones is going to be making the start for the San Fran.
Speaker 3:I have to pick the Saints to win this game you deadass.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure if I can do it.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure if I can. Who's George Kittle playing? No?
Speaker 2:he's out. No, he's out, he's out too.
Speaker 3:And Juwan Jennings I think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have Chris McCaffrey though you picked us and Nick Bosa.
Speaker 3:You picked the runners.
Speaker 2:I don't think I could pick Spencer Rattler. Man, I just can't Fuck.
Speaker 3:I can't Real quick. That's so much worse than Mac Jones. Yeah, I can't Real quick that's so much worse than Mac Jones. Yeah for sure, at least I can say Mac Jones won football games, he's won football games.
Speaker 2:We'll get to that. Let's just go ahead and start picking games.
Speaker 3:That's all in the stories. Game one you got Jacksonville at Cincinnati.
Speaker 2:I am going to say Cincinnati. By the way, jacksonville's whole plan with an old boy, why am I forgetting his name?
Speaker 1:Travis.
Speaker 2:Hunter, I don't it already may it looks like a disaster already. I'm like just make him Like, come on, just let him pick a position and try to go play it, because I'm just like you're not getting the best out of him either way, so just go ahead and block in on something You're not.
Speaker 3:Brian Thomas Jr Go play DB either way, so just go ahead and block in on something.
Speaker 2:You're not, brian thomas jr, go play db. Or just go play wide receiver, just go be a good number two wide receiver, because you're never like like. You're just not getting the same value out of it that you probably should and it just already looks like it's a a clusterfuck already and it's just one game into the year. Um, but I I think you're dealing with two teams that may be pretty similar.
Speaker 2:I'm'm going to pick Cincinnati because they're at home. I think, coming off of last week where they had the seven yards in the second half, I think Joe Burrow and that offense is going to come out with something to prove, and my thing is that I don't think Jacksonville has the corners to stop Jamar Chase from doing what he should be doing, which is catching balls and getting touchdowns, which is, for some reason, denzel Ward just has the magic touch and he just can't do anything against him whatsoever. And not to mention, they don't have anything to stop T and I would just love for Travis Hunter to try to go out there and guard one of those receivers.
Speaker 3:God, this motherfucker goes out and try to guard T Higgins.
Speaker 2:No, the funniest thing is if they have him try to guard Yosivas and he goes out there and head tops him, get, head tops him, get the fuck out of here. That would be the funniest thing.
Speaker 3:You can't go guard the slot receiver because it's going to be Yoshi. Yeah, that motherfucker's six foot five, right, and he's not fucking slow, right? He runs a four three.
Speaker 2:You fucking around with the wrong one and Joe Burrow will throw it. There is nobody he's scared to throw against.
Speaker 3:I'm slinging that bitch. Joe Burrow is out there Fucking run around the pocket. They're the prison game. He was slinging that bitch.
Speaker 2:Yeah, don't play with him.
Speaker 3:So I hope to God you don't even get close to Jamar Tiggins and Yoshi Vox. Embarrasses the asshole game.
Speaker 2:Oh, that'd be awesome, Because Yoshi Vox real quick.
Speaker 3:Props to him. That motherfucker carved his way out to the third spot.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure. He is a great receiver yeah, yeah, um and probably one of the best red zone threats in the nfl oh yeah, for sure, especially since, like all the guys that'll be guarding him, you're not gonna be as big as him, you're not gonna be as athletic as him you're gonna be a linebacker and yeah, it's just not, it's just gonna be all that so so I just like him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's great. No, he's good and he's a receiver we're probably gonna keep for a while again.
Speaker 2:He's great in his spot as a number three. If somebody were to pay him to be a number two, I'd be kind of worried.
Speaker 3:I would be, but I don't know what he can truly do. Yeah, I know the games where, like there's not a tee against a Jermar Chase, he does step up. Yeah, but you're talking. He's getting like 75, 60 yards. Yeah, that's cool, maybe a touchdown yeah and for like three or four games in a row, he could do that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but for like a whole season being that guy to rely on. That's something that's going to be a question.
Speaker 3:But again we'll slide your little $30 million over three years.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure they're not going to be able to give him that much.
Speaker 3:They already have so much money in the wide reserve position. No, no, no.
Speaker 2:But he'll get paid and take the mistake and go be somewhere else. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 3:Just know, you're not a number two.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I guess he probably could be a number two, but it's just I don't know. He'd have to go prove it.
Speaker 3:He's not as fast as T and he can't run as good as Routes as T.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:But they're very similar players.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:What you do best is you are six foot five and like 230 pounds, yeah, and you run as fast as you do, yeah, so I don't know, I'm taking cincinnati of course we'll take cincinnati. Oh yeah, I hope they embarrass travis on our all fucking games and trevor lawrence.
Speaker 2:I would love for him to look bad because you know, unfortunately that's one of those guys with 300 yards and four touchdowns, and this bitch would be a shootout, uh, but you can keep dreaming. I yes, I do worry about what your defense will be able to do against Brian Thomas Jr. That's the problem.
Speaker 3:Do you think they'll do something?
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:We're going to watch Cam Tillybert. Hold the fuck out of here.
Speaker 2:Can you be the cone that at least gets in his way to stop him from doing what he wants to do?
Speaker 3:Again they did it with the Browns. They stopped him from playing.
Speaker 2:I guess yeah, they hit it twice.
Speaker 3:They got two interceptions twice.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but those were given on a silver platter. I don't think. Jacksonville is going to do that. Just do something. Even though I think Trevor Lawrence may actually throw a pick-worthy play in a way that I don't think, I think he throws a lot of pick-worthy plays?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, for sure. Yes, yes, yes. Straight to the defense, but the defense is going yeah for sure, again, we just got to have one of those games where you just hands one to us.
Speaker 2:You have to catch it. The other ones were just like popped up, it's like oh, this is so easy.
Speaker 3:They couldn't catch him Right. That was when they hit battle in the hands. That motherfucker dropped it. I was like I want to tweak out right now Next game New York defensive line will get after Dallas Dude. I think that New York defensive line is elite.
Speaker 2:If they get you into third, in anything like third and eight, nine, ten, you are screwed, especially since Dak doesn't run at all, so he's going to have to get that ball out quick.
Speaker 3:I would kill for the Giants defensive line right now. Oh yeah, oh my.
Speaker 2:God, they have so much put into that.
Speaker 3:I just think that the only problem they have is there's no one back there covering. Oh yeah, no question.
Speaker 2:You have to hope they get to the quarterback first. Oh yeah, somebody is open down. Yeah, they're secondaries, nothing. But I don't think the game will ever be close enough for him to kind of get a tight booty, not to mention I just don't think New York, with Russell Wilson at the helm, is going to be able to put enough pressure on them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no question. I seriously think that they're trying to hold on to Jackson Dart and just kind of keep him on the bench as long as possible, but it's going to get to a point where they'll have another choice, because Russell Wilson was like shit in the first game.
Speaker 3:Maybe he'll even go out there and look a little bit better. If he looks okay, I say we don't see him until midseason.
Speaker 2:He doesn't throw in the middle of the field. Man I know, but Dart can't see who's his teammate and who's a defender. Take the chance.
Speaker 3:I don't think a motherfucker can read a field.
Speaker 2:I think he can.
Speaker 3:Okay, preseason says you're lying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he was making plays in the preseason.
Speaker 3:I was like Straight to the middle linebacker, staring him in the face.
Speaker 2:It's not as bad as what Russell Wilson looked like the first game.
Speaker 3:It's arguably funny. No, this motherfucker slung two interceptions straight to a defender.
Speaker 2:Yeah, intercepts and straight to a defender yeah, but as a young guy, they're going to make those mistakes. Russell Wilson looks like garbage.
Speaker 3:Those were backups. He's 13 years into the NFL. Those are backups.
Speaker 2:Okay, fine, I'm picking Dallas.
Speaker 3:Jameis. Winston said did it, and no one questioned anything. He'll be fine come the season, yeah, and he makes a whole career of it. He's not.
Speaker 2:Makes a whole career of it. Okay, chicago at Detroit.
Speaker 3:I'm taking Detroit. I'm taking Detroit as well. I think they fuck up Chicago.
Speaker 2:I would sure hope so, because if Detroit loses this game, it's DEFCON 1, dude 1 is the worst, right? When they say DEFCON, is it DEFCON, defcon 3. Okay, the bigger the number, the worse it is.
Speaker 3:You gotta watch more sci-fi movies.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do, I do. I just think that Detroit they need to win this game 10-30. So I just think that if Detroit loses this game it's a huge problem, especially with how bad Caleb Williams looked last game. I just don't think that gets fixed within a week and I think Detroit's defense should be a little bit better. But their secondary is kind of bad. But I think they'll be able to get enough pressure on Caleb to make him a little bit antsy in the pocket and just keep making those mistakes he's been making. I think a good secondary is such a luxury in the NFL?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, for sure it is such a luxury.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no question.
Speaker 3:I don't think there's one team that I can say, yeah, like their secondary is good uh denver yeah denver is a great secondary is it great yeah, is it yeah? Joe burrow's 438 yards is differently yeah, but that's joe burrow.
Speaker 2:That's like one of the top offense in the league, unlike other than last week in the second half yeah, but is their whole secondary good or is Patrick Sertain good?
Speaker 3:They have.
Speaker 2:Patrick Sertain they have. Who is the safety?
Speaker 3:Justin.
Speaker 2:Simmons Nope, he's not even there anymore.
Speaker 3:No fucking clue.
Speaker 2:No, they have Hufanga. The safety from San Fran Again, can he stay healthy is the big question. Probably not. And they also have at linebacker. They have the other Greenlaw.
Speaker 3:Greenlaw is a blitzing linebacker.
Speaker 2:True, but I'm saying they have. That's not a good secondary. You're not wrong, it's not like lockdown.
Speaker 3:Really really, really, really, really good DB, yeah, and then a safety that may be here by week eight.
Speaker 2:Like a lockdown secondary.
Speaker 3:Like it is a no-fly zone I don't want to think of. That is easily at times number one in the league and then other times is like bottom five. It's the Seahawks.
Speaker 2:It didn't look great last week.
Speaker 3:Exactly, but there's times they let a third string, tight end, make a play. Exactly, but there was times last year when they didn't allow more than 100 yards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess you could say that yeah.
Speaker 3:Because they have two really good DBs. Yeah, but they both have their issues Because they have to play man-to-man and not have a man-to-man DB. Yeah, because they don't have any good safeties back there, but they have a good linebacker who plays.
Speaker 2:Oh, they do have the one guy they drafted, but he's still young and has to learn and then he got hurt.
Speaker 3:I think he's going to be gone for a little bit, but again I think a good, a good good.
Speaker 2:Secondary Kansas City was that before this year they had one for like three or four years their secondary was pretty. Can you have that dominating defense nowadays? With how many?
Speaker 3:how no, it's too hard to pay everybody. Yeah, it's too hard to pay everybody.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, it's not only that, but the rules tend itself towards offenses, so much.
Speaker 3:It does. The Falcons have a really good secondary.
Speaker 2:It's fine, it's not, it's not like crazy. They have a really good safety and a good DB, yeah, but it's like you're not going to have like the early 2000s where you have like those type of defenses, the Steelers. That's not going to happen, no more. Because the game is so offensive, because think about it this way the Steelers have been looked at as like a terrible decision by having one of the highest paid defenses in the NFL. So it's like what is it going to get you that doesn't win you games in the NFL?
Speaker 3:nowadays it doesn't win games, but again it wins championships In the championships.
Speaker 2:You have to get there first, and that's the problem.
Speaker 3:But again, I don't know. I think somebody sat back and like damn, we let Ryan Clark and James Harrison go out there every Sunday.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure. What the fuck did we?
Speaker 3:do Somebody had to sit down and reflect about that shit because them niggas were nuts.
Speaker 2:But I just think the amount of great quarter hard.
Speaker 3:It is hard, no for sure, because not only do you have to have great talents, but you have to have being great systems, which is the only problem is. There's only one team that has figured this shit out. They draft defensive players like it's fucking easy.
Speaker 2:Ravens, the fucking Steelers. Oh, Ravens too. Yeah, you both draft, Even though they're having their issues with their corners now.
Speaker 3:but like but again you're, they get. Kyle Hamilton is in all that. Yeah, I've never lived in a world where Steelers put out a bad defense. Oh yeah, because that's a culture thing, that's a culture thing is, the Steelers can consistently draft an amazing defense that wins games.
Speaker 2:I wish they gave up on that a little bit to get more offensive players With your offense that With your offense. That's the problem. You guys probably have the highest-paid defense in the NFL.
Speaker 3:They have been the last three or four years now, dude.
Speaker 2:Has it led to more than getting to the playoffs.
Speaker 3:Absolutely not. Even your DBs suck ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they keep putting band-aids on the situation. Again, I think that's only the case because they're trying to put more on the offensive side. It's not because they're not trying. They're trying to which, again, getting DK is pending, give him $30 million and all that.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I think nowadays the best way to build a defense is to have a really good lockdown DB.
Speaker 2:Yeah, or a good DB with two good safeties, I think. Also I think Kansas City had the right formula for a while have a great quarterback that has a really good offensive coordinator. Slash offensive head coach. Make the defense just very young, or the Rams, make sure the defense you put good pieces in there first, second, third round picks, keep them young and then pay the really good ones, but then just keep everything else going and just let the quarterback go. But again, you only can do that when you have a great quarterback.
Speaker 3:I think the Rams keep a very good balance.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Of we're not going to throw too much money anywhere.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah.
Speaker 3:We're going to keep it. We have a good offense and a good defense.
Speaker 2:But they can do that because they have a head coach that can put an offense together. They know what they're doing all around, even though they still have one of their best offense players, puka Nakua, who is on a cheap deal right now. Who knows how that changes. Then they have Devontae Adams, who they paid to do some of the money.
Speaker 3:A cheap deal is an understatement. That motherfucker was like a fourth or fifth round pick.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. So you're talking like nothing.
Speaker 3:He's getting paid nothing.
Speaker 2:But he will have to get paid after his third year. You can't do the fourth year and then all the franchise tax.
Speaker 3:He was in the first three rounds.
Speaker 2:It's only the first round that gets the fifth year option no no, no, the first three rounds can get four-year deals. No, or is it the first two? It's only the first year that gets the four-year deal plus the fifth-year option. Only the first year that gets the four-year deal plus the fifth year option. Everything, everything with the sec.
Speaker 2:The second second round on the second round gets the three-year deals that's good yeah, again, that's what's crazy, because that's the thing is like hey, if you're a late first round pick, I would rather just be a second round pick so I can get paid faster. If you're going to be that type of player anyway, or they just get to play the we're going to give you the fifth year and then franchise tag you for two years.
Speaker 3:T Higgins, exactly.
Speaker 2:Next game we got LA Rams at Tennessee. I'm taking the Rams. That's going to be very easy, that's no fucking question. I think the Rams did not play great last week, but I just think it doesn't matter. They'll be able to beat Tennessee Because Tennessee is booty cheeks.
Speaker 3:I think they'll be fine.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they have a good enough defense where I just don't think they're not going to let. They're not going to let. Why am I forgetting the quarterback's name?
Speaker 3:Cam Ward.
Speaker 2:They're not going to let Cam Ward be able to breathe back there, just like he wasn't able to last week.
Speaker 3:I think it'll be a little harder for them because they don't have Jared. Versus is very, very good.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:But again, he's only in his second year and I don't think the rest of their defense is good, but it's not great by any means.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they just, everybody has their part, like they're not superstars, but they all. They have a very good structured defense where everybody plays their part.
Speaker 3:That's a good way to say it. Jared Burst is a superstar. No-transcript. I'm one game ahead oh, new england, miami.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take New England because from what I saw from Tua last week, that thing is a dumpster fire offensively and defensively. They've been garbage for years and they got only gotten worse. Their only defensive player that's good is Mika, and even he couldn't do anything with that defense. How bad it was. So.
Speaker 3:I'm going to take New England. He's probably in Miami. Like what a fuck am I back here?
Speaker 2:oh, oh yeah, no question. There's no way he's happy about being there whatsoever. I really do feel bad for him.
Speaker 3:The only thing he's enjoying right now is the weather.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no question. Hopefully it's a very nice place there.
Speaker 3:I could never imagine somebody would prefer to be in Pittsburgh than Miami.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's just that's how bad it is there. Their head coach is kind of bad, mcdaniels. I'm kind of hoping he will become an office coordinator somewhere and maybe the Steelers will have an opening because he can put together an offense. But you can't trust him to do anything else when it comes to coaching because he's soft as baby, wipes, dude, everything is bad.
Speaker 3:You'd be a great Bengals head coach then that is true, you'd be a great Bengals head coach.
Speaker 2:Yes, imagine him with a guy like Joe Burrow. That would be awesome, wouldn't it?
Speaker 3:Dang, that's what you could do. You could scheme 40-yard plays.
Speaker 2:And then you'd have a quarterback that would be able to make it happen. Oh crazy. But I just think New England should win this game. Miami's awful Tyreek Hill is going off the walls. It's New England should win this game. But if they don't, much bigger problem than you think. Huge issue Next game San Fran at New Orleans. I'm taking San Fran too.
Speaker 3:I will never trust Spencer Rattler. I wouldn't trust that nigga with a dollar.
Speaker 2:Did you see that play with Crystal Lago where they had him go around the back and they tried to have him catch a screen pass or something like that and he got blown up by the corner. And then Brian Hartline sees he's like hey, what are we doing here? Like this is not something you do with a wide receiver of that caliber.
Speaker 3:That is your number one receiver right that's what you do with a gadget guy do that with your third stringer, even your second string guy, that is your number one receiver, yeah, and they're using like a gadget dude.
Speaker 2:I'm just sitting there like this is awful. You these, your number one guy. Let him be your one guy and it's just like he got hurt.
Speaker 2:He got hurt on that play, because he got blown up, because it's so obvious when it happened. I'm sitting there like man. I wish the Steelers could have traded for him when they tried, because it would be so awesome to have him on the team. But yeah, it's just. I just don't trust New Orleans. Do not trust New Orleans whatsoever, san Fran not to mention. I would love to see the day when Mac Jones wins and I would have another data point to say it doesn't matter the quarterback, as long as the dude knows to does what the office coordinator wants. They can do it with anybody. They did it with, they did it with old boy Jimmy Garoppolo, they've done it now with Purdy, and if they do it with Mac Jones, who is obviously terrible wherever he has been, it's a conversation I would like to have.
Speaker 3:Next one Buffalo and the Jets.
Speaker 2:I'm taking Buffalo.
Speaker 3:I also took Buffalo.
Speaker 2:But Buffalo may their defense may be a true issue. If New York can look how they did last week, the holes, like their defense may be a true issue if New York can like, look how they did last week.
Speaker 3:Their defense will show I get it. They're saying they were missing two corners but those two corners will do jack shit to Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 2:They got ran all over and guess what the New York Jets want to do? They want to run the football with Brees Hall. It's in Justin Fields. So I just think that if they let it happen with the New York Jets, they have a team that could take advantage. If Buffalo is going to look, that is going to be like Swiss cheese, like that. So I'm going to take Buffalo because I think offensively they'll be able to get the job done. But I'm worried about that Buffalo defense.
Speaker 3:I agree, we have Seattle at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2:Taking Pittsburgh, sam Darnold looked really bad last week. Jason got his, but do they have a great offensive player outside of that that can get their own?
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:No, you think Kenneth Walker, but their offensive line is not good enough to really believe in them.
Speaker 3:No, their offensive line is garbage.
Speaker 2:And I'm just sitting here like I just think Pittsburgh, even though Seattle is pretty good pieces defensively. If Aaron Rodgers can just diagnose the defense and just put the ball in the hands of the right player, I think Pittsburgh should win this game, especially with Seattle's offense not necessarily being all that scary. Again, Jason will get his, but just keep them out of the end zone. Pittsburgh should win this game. We're agreeing a lot on this. One huh. Next one Cleveland at Baltimore. Oh, you didn't. What did you pick?
Speaker 3:Don't take the Sealy's. I'm taking Perk Rogers over here, okay.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 3:I don't trust Seattle. I don't trust Seattle.
Speaker 2:They let the third string tight end take that ball out, because that was a bad ball that Purdy threw. He should have not have thrown that football. The third string tight end take that ball out of it, because that was a bad ball that Purdy threw. He should not have thrown that football. The third string tight end took the ball out of that corner. I think it was Woodby. Nope, what's the corner's name? Come on, stop shaking your head at me.
Speaker 3:Just say the name Cleveland at Baltimore.
Speaker 2:Oh God, you got to do that to me. I'm taking Baltimore. Yeah, why would you take fucking Cleveland? Cleveland is not good enough to stop the bullies from bullying them. Nope, in Baltimore they're not gonna give up this game because again, cleveland's not gonna be having a chance to win this game.
Speaker 3:You got Denver Indiana.
Speaker 2:Am I crazy for thinking about picking the Colts? I?
Speaker 3:already picked the Broncos, you go ahead and pick Danny Dimes, bo Nix looked like ass last week, though Go ahead. That's my only problem. They look so bad. Pick him, pick him, pick Danny Dimes. I believe in him.
Speaker 2:No, I'm going to take Denver because I think their defense will be able to stop Indianapolis. You're a pussy, but it's just the Bo Nix thing that makes me scared. I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 3:All right, we got Carolina Arizona.
Speaker 2:I'm taking Arizona. I liked what Marv did last week. I don't think Carolina has anybody to stop Marv. And this is a really I haven't had one this bad when it comes to forgetting names in a minute.
Speaker 3:He's a tight end, come on.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's Trey.
Speaker 3:McBride there we go.
Speaker 2:I looked it up. I don't know a lot of you Motherfucker, I clicked to the game so quick. Yeah, I just don't think Carolina has anything to stop them and I think Arizona does have enough defensively to keep making. Oh my God, I keep doing this to myself. Bryce young look like, look so bad, because that's how bad he looked last week. Um, probably biggest game of the weekend philly going to kansas city. It sucks that philly has to play this game on the road because they are the super bowl champs and the fact I get it. They played at home last week, yeah, but they're a dog walk the fuck out of Kansas City.
Speaker 2:I'm going to take Philadelphia because I am really worried about that Kansas City secondary. I just think that they have some real issues and even though I think Philadelphia got eaten up a little bit when it comes from Jalen Carter was not there he will be there this week Real quick, I think that hurt them so fucking much.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, because the Cowboys were able to run the football.
Speaker 2:And then it opened up the pass for them as well.
Speaker 3:It hurt so fucking much and.
Speaker 2:Carter doesn't only stop the run, he is also getting after the passer a lot too. And I just think Kansas City with their offensive pieces. I just don't think they have enough against Philadelphia to really make me worry. So I'm going to take Philly to win that game.
Speaker 3:I did too. I think they're just a better team overall right now. You got Atlanta going to Minnesota. I took Atlanta. I think Atlanta is a—.
Speaker 2:This game is indoors. They're playing on the same field I like.
Speaker 3:Atlanta. I do too. I think Atlanta is better. I think Atlanta is just better. I think Atlanta's better. I think Atlanta's just better. I also do not trust JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 2:I don't trust him a fucking house. He played like garbage for three quarters and then had a really great. He had a great fourth quarter. Have to give him that credit.
Speaker 3:But again, there's four quarters in a game. I think Michael Penick's a better fucking quarterback. I also think he has the ability to move out of the pocket that Minnesota, I think, may struggle with a little bit.
Speaker 2:That defense for Minnesota is really good though.
Speaker 3:It is, but again, I think that offense for Atlanta is far fucking better. And they have a lot of pace to throw the football to there's so much they can do that it's going to be hard for Minnesota to contain it all and you've got to stop Bijan man and he's unstoppable, catching the football out of the backfield, running the football, he can do everything, dude.
Speaker 2:So I think I might have to go with Atlanta on that one. Jj McCarthy, he had one great quarter. Can he translate that into a whole game? That is where I ask my questions. But yeah, atlanta should win that game At least I think so, hopefully. But again, minnesota's at home, so I wouldn't be surprised if they won Monday night. Two games are happening that night. Let's go ahead and go with the first one, tampa Bay at Houston. I don't know, man, I really love this breaks my heart. I like Tampa Bay Mech versus CJ. Houston's defense is absolutely filthy. I don't think Tampa Bay's defense is going to change. It's not a great defense.
Speaker 3:It doesn't take a lot to get Pat through that O-line.
Speaker 2:It doesn't that offensive line can through that o-line. It doesn't that offense along.
Speaker 3:Can't, can't protect cj at all defense is very, very good, um, but I think that o-line for houston is so horrifically bad. It's so bad that I'm like I can't in confidence take houston I'm gonna take him, I'm gonna go on a limb screw it I.
Speaker 2:I just I think if they can just find a way to get CJ just a little bit of time, that secondary will not be able to stop, because I think Houston has a lot of good pieces. Catching the football out of the bat, catching the football, I think um Nico will be able to. It's not Nico.
Speaker 1:Nico Collins. Yeah, I think Nico Collins didn't do anything last week.
Speaker 2:I don't think you're going to do anything last week. I don't think you're going to do that two weeks in a row against him and I think he will be able to get his. So I just think, and Houston, even though as bad as they played last week they still had a chance to go win the game at the end before the running back fumbled in the red zone. So I think Houston can win this game. Last but not least, we have the LA Chargers going to Vegas.
Speaker 3:To the raiders. I took the chargers. Uh, last week jay herbo looked like he was back in peak form. That motherfucker was running, that motherfucker was throwing that bitch, he was slinging it like he had all the arm talent in the world. They're running the football effectively yeah that in the defense is not awful, it's not completely terrible. Yeah, no, I agree, and I think this, I think the raiders is an undermanned team.
Speaker 2:It is. And the Raiders could not run the football last week the way that you thought they would, especially with their nice and shiny first-round pick. Running back, Geno threw that football everywhere though he did and Brock. Bowers is going to eat against that defense.
Speaker 3:He is. But again, I think the defense of the Chargers is just good enough to get a stop.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think that if this game turns into that, I think the Chargers will be able to run the football at least effectively enough with Amari and Hampton to be able to kind of shorten the game a little bit.
Speaker 3:I agree.
Speaker 2:And I think Herbo, if he keeps this kind of play going, I don't think Vegas will be able to stop him doing what he wants to do. So I'm going to take the chargers. But I wouldn't doubt if Gino just goes out there and sprays the ball over the field, just like he did last week, and they find a way to win the game. But I just think this game could, whatever the over under, I just don't think either defense is necessarily consistent enough for me to be like, oh, that team is going to stop the other. I really do think the game in the 20s could easily happen, especially with it being indoors, don't have to deal with any weather or anything like that. But yeah, I'll take the Chargers. I think they should win that game, all right. Well, I said after last podcast we'd have a little bit shorter one today and I think we did a really good job of that. I think us having a movie to go to definitely kind of put a little bit of a booster up our butts on this one. But you know there's a lot of stuff to talk about. We did it, got Braylon in for a little bit, talked through about half the podcast, so that was a very good, nice little guest appearance on the pod because we talked about him a decent amount on the pod anyway. So but yeah, let's just go ahead. And oh, um, we didn't talk about the uh running back for the commanders last night who tore his achilles eckler, one play non-contact, tore his achilles right away. You could see it. You're like, oh, that's it, I knew right away was achilles. And the next thing you know you're seeing him walk off the field, sit on the the bench. He's like, oh, no man. You're seeing him like contemplate with God. He's like, no, please don't let it be what I think it is, because when it happens you know right away. It's like everybody knows about Achilles injuries. Enough, tore that Achilles and it sucked to see, because every time you're, I just want to make sure I mention that on the pod.
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