JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
Depression, Comebacks, and Finding a New Team to Root For
After a brief hiatus, the dynamic duo reunites for an action-packed breakdown of college football's most compelling matchups and the NFL's weekend drama. We dive deep into Miami's dominant win over Florida, Indiana's shocking 63-10 demolition of Illinois, and Michigan State showing surprising fight against USC despite coming up short.
The conversation takes a personal turn when we explore the emotional fallout of the Bengals' catastrophic 48-10 loss to Minnesota and Joe Burrow's season-ending injury. There's a raw, genuine discussion about what fans do when their team's season essentially ends in September – do you stick it out or temporarily adopt another team to maintain your love for the game?
We analyze the weekend's biggest NFL surprises, including the Browns upsetting the Packers, Indianapolis continuing their impressive start behind Daniel Jones, and the Chicago Bears finally unleashing Caleb Williams against Dallas. The Lions-Ravens Monday night thriller gets special attention, particularly Dan Campbell's aggressive fourth-down philosophy that's creating a fearless winning culture in Detroit.
Throughout our breakdown, we offer unique insights on quarterback development, offensive line importance, and the fine line between aggressive coaching and recklessness. Whether you're looking for thoughtful analysis or just two brothers processing the emotional roller coaster of sports fandom, this episode delivers both substance and heart.
Join us as we navigate the highs and lows of football season with humor, passion, and unfiltered reactions to the moments that make us love sports – even when they break our hearts.
welcome back to the podcast today is tuesday, september the 23rd. We're back from the podcast we're back in the flesh.
Speaker 2:We got jace here I'm back.
Speaker 1:I've been busy. My apologies.
Speaker 2:I'm here to stay not just busy, you're a little depressed too, but you know, it's all, it's all the not before this last one.
Speaker 1:It's not this last uh, last week's podcast on friday, but the tuesday podcast oh yes, I was depressed the friday podcast. I was busy the tuesday podcast. I didn't want to talk sports, no, I got it and I totally understood.
Speaker 2:that's why I went solo last week, did them, did my thing and know, kept the thing going, but we had to have you back at some point.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I am back. I watched college football, only funny enough. I didn't watch any NFL football.
Speaker 2:None. Well, you said you watched the game last night.
Speaker 1:I did. I watched that one, but I didn't catch shit else.
Speaker 2:Well dang, this is else, well dang. This will be a little bit different for you then, because, uh, usually you only care about the nfl and I watched michigan state play uh and I watched a few other classical games okay, we'll just run through them then and you jump in where you, where you have some major takes to have, um, this isn't going to be in order at all.
Speaker 2:So I'm just going to kind of go down the games that actually mattered and just kind of go from there. Miami, um, florida-miami. Miami won the game 26-7. Honestly, the game wasn't all that close. It was close until the very end in the fourth quarter where Miami kind of scored 13 points to kind of make it look a little worse than it was.
Speaker 2:One thing I'll give Florida some credit for because of how bad they looked the week before when they lost the game to USF. Oh, no, sorry, not USF it credit for because of how bad they looked the week before when they lost the game to usf. They, oh no, sorry, not usf, they won, it was too good for that. No, because miami played usf last week and they beat them. So florida played. Somebody else who did florida play? Now I gotta check now. Um, lsu, um. So, coming off the lsu game where they lost, they came into Miami. It's another. Like hey, if you, if you kind of give up, you're going to get beat by a lot. But I will give Florida a lot of credit. Their defense showed up the defense is actually very good that night like they did everything they could do. Um, they were able to get after Miami a little bit. Carson Beck made a mistake by throwing that pick in a bad spot, but Florida was dominated to a certain extent. I think Miami might have the best offensive defensive lines and probably all of college football, if you just like take it collectively. Their offensive line is really good and their defensive line can definitely get after it. Carson Beck is a little bit of a question mark because he kind of struggled in a game where, like again, again, florida's defense is good but you would think that Carson Beck would be able to play a little bit better in that scenario. But Miami ran the football well. Mark Fletcher, their leading back, 24 carries, 116 yards and a touchdown played very well. Florida is still kind of like a dead man walking at this point.
Speaker 2:Their starting quarterback, dj Lagway a lot of people look to him as like one of the best quarterbacks in college football coming into the season. Another game he went 12 of 23 for 61 yards, did not do anything at all in this game. He was getting sacked a decent amount and he just doesn't look engaged at all. He just sees it's not good and, honestly, once Florida ends up firing Billy Napier, I think a lot of their players are probably going to be finding new homes. Try to go somewhere else, especially DJ Lagwa.
Speaker 2:I think he probably Dante Moore, the quarterback now for Oregon. He played at UCLA two years ago, went to Oregon last year, took the year off, sat behind a back, was a backup behind a veteran, learned and now Dante Moore's coming out and he's lighting things up this year for Oregon. So I think DJ Laiway could potentially benefit from having a time like that where he could potentially sit for a minute and again, everybody wanted to call him potentially a guy that can be drafted in about a year or so. But I think he might take a little bit longer because things are not looking all that great for him. Um, next game, let's see, don't care. Texas I'm only mentioning this because that, because arch kind of had a better game. Texas beat sam houston 55 to nothing, arch manning 18 to 309 yards, three touchdowns, and I think he also had a rushing touchdown as well.
Speaker 1:He looks so mid.
Speaker 2:Until this game this game.
Speaker 1:He actually had a good game. Who did they play?
Speaker 2:again Sam Houston? Oh, literal fucking nobody. It's a game, that. It's a school I recognize at least. Would you like to know, for effect, who LSU played? Go ahead the Southeastern Louisiana Lions. That isn't a school. When I saw it last week when I was previewing that game, I thought I was dealing with that logo that they have and everything. I'm pretty sure I could find it on NCAA like doing a creative team type of thing.
Speaker 1:Sam Houston is the orange one. Yes, I do know that team.
Speaker 2:Again, it's a school you can recognize. At least Southeastern Louisiana is nothing even close. But Arch Manning had a good day, threw the football well, like I said, 18-21. He also ran over somebody and he did have this moment where he was standing, standing over a Sam Houston State player, like in the end zone, kind of like bulking up at him after he just got into the end zone. But here's my thing and he got put all over socials. Espn was retweeting it and all that. But my only thing is that it'd be one thing if you were doing this to LSU or in Alabama or a Georgia, but you're doing this to dudes that have no chance against you, so it makes you look weak by you doing that in the moment. But on the other hand, I do understand if Arch is looking for that moment to give him a spark, and maybe this game was enough to do that. Again, we won't know that until he ends up facing a team of similar caliber again. But maybe he needs that moment. But it just sucked in the moment that he wouldn't have taken it with a little bit more class, because those players aren't there to win the game, they're there to be a tune-up for Texas and as they treat it in Texas. Actually you have to treat them like such, unlike the other games Texas has had this year where they have been struggling and looking very bad. Now, with Arch kind of showing up and having a good game, the game looked like how it was supposed to look when Texas plays a team like Sam Houston.
Speaker 2:Another game that I thought technically was going to be a close one, but it ended up being a total blowout Indiana facing against Illinois. This is a ranked-on-ranked matchup 19-9, 19 being Indiana and 9 being Illinois. Indiana won the game 63 to nothing. This game was not close at all. Again, illinois was missing a lot of their dbs. I think they're down to like three or four like their last, like three or four dbs that they had in their roster because so many of their guys had got hurt.
Speaker 2:But even still, like the indiana of last year comparison of this year, they have a quarterback that I think can do a lot more moving around. He can run and I think he's probably a little bit better when it comes to throwing downfield and getting some big plays. But I also think their wide receivers are a year older. They're still very big and still make a lot of catches and I think they're just getting even better in comparison to what they were last year. And then Indiana's defense as well. Man, they have a really good defensive line that can really get after you if you're not ready to go again.
Speaker 2:I don't think their secondary is necessarily anything special, but they have dudes that are able to sit there and play their roles and like, not necessarily get beat over the top, and I think that kind of all that put together leads to a team in indiana that, in comparison to last year, may actually be more ready for the moment now than what they were um year ago when they went and faced Notre Dame and got beat up on in the playoff. So I think a lot of people need to get around to the idea that maybe, even though the last time you really saw them in a big moment it didn't look great, this team is totally different and they treated Illinois like a FCS team the way they beat them. Credit to Illinois, though they did lose their quarterback quarterback, though he tore his like as soon as that happened. It was pretty much done for Illinois but, like their defense, their team just got totally demolished.
Speaker 2:Oklahoma-auburn Oklahoma won the game 24-17. My thought on Oklahoma, especially after them beating Michigan I was really thinking that they were going to be like a really really, really good team that potentially he's going to make a playoff and all that. And then, after watching this game against Auburn, this game, I didn't think they were going to be a good team.
Speaker 1:I thought they were going to be better.
Speaker 2:John Mateer, their quarterback, I thought was very good and that's one of the big news things coming out of that game. But I thought John Mateer was good. Their defense is very good. It was awesome Playing against Auburn. They had 10 sacks in this game. Did Oklahoma, which broke a school record for them. But I thought Oklahoma and Auburn were very mutually evenly matched teams, which is not something I really thought coming into the game. That's kind of how it played at least, even though I thought Oklahoma was a much better team and it didn't really turn out that way.
Speaker 2:Auburn did have their quarterback coming in, being Jackson Arnold. He was the guy that was at Oklahoma last year, got blamed for all the offensive issues. He came in. I thought he would try to have a good day, try to make even for him. Getting kind of kicked out of Oklahoma like he was wasn't able to do that. He got sacked 10 times, like I already said, and he was just like not ready for the moment. He just showed like again in that game. It just kind of showed why Jackson Arnold may have been part of the problem with Oklahoma. I don't think he was the whole issue with them last year, but you could definitely tell that Oklahoma had a new quarterback in John Mateer, and Mateer is just that much better. It's like the new girlfriend and the old girlfriend scenario New girlfriend coming in doing great, showing the old girlfriend up, and that's kind of how it worked in this game. But I do think, coming out of it, I don't think as highly on Oklahoma as I thought I did, because even with all those things going with it, they just only beat them by. The game was close for the whole game. So like the fact you got 10 sacks on the court on Auburn's quarterback and they still were able to score 17, or you weren't able to score more, that was potentially an issue that I see for Oklahoma. And on top of that their quarterback, john Mateer, broke his hand, broke a bone in his throwing hand. He's going to be out for a month.
Speaker 2:So, with Oklahoma playing some big games here in the next month or so, they go and face Texas in the Red River rivalry. They face South Carolina yeah, it's hard to say they face South Carolina. They face Ole Miss, tennessee. These are games they're going to have over the next few weeks and if they don't have their main starting quarterback, who knows how that changes things because, heck, in that game against they had against Michigan, mateer was the difference, like he was the difference between between them winning or losing. So with all that, I do think that Oklahoma is definitely in a different spot now than they were, especially with having a brand new quarterback coming in. So that's going to be something to keep an eye out for.
Speaker 2:Let's see Ole Miss and Tulane. Who cares about that? Tennessee beat UAB, texas Tech, utah. Oh, that was another big game Texas Tech and Utah. I thought Utah was going to win this game. Coming in Utah, being at home, they're known as like one of the better teams in college football, especially when they're playing in their own house.
Speaker 2:It did not look that way on Saturday. Texas Tech beat them 34-10. This game was not at all, honestly, all that close. Texas defense was probably the biggest difference. Their defensive line was getting after Utah's quarterback to where he was not Devin Dampier. He was not comfortable whatsoever in the pocket. He wasn't able to kind of get in the rhythm of the offense and he kind of showed. And then Texas Tech was winning that game so well that they were able to go into their backup quarterback and he came out and played great. So all that coming together where Texas Tech was really. This is like another experiment where they went into the portal this past offseason and just bought a bunch of players and sometimes that can work a la Florida State two years ago. Or let's go with what team this year has a bunch of oh.
Speaker 2:Miami, don't you know Miami's really no, it's not working.
Speaker 1:I know, honestly, buying a bunch of players doesn't really work that well, not Miami.
Speaker 2:A lot of their players are homegrown Indiana, indiana. They have a lot of their team where they have kind of brought them in out of the portal and it's kind of worked out well. So Texas Tech we didn't know whether that was going to be something that was truly going to be legit. It is. They're very good. Their defense is probably the difference, which is what makes them different. What they've been in past years, where their offense has been awesome with their defenses sucked, but now their defense is actually legit and they're gonna make a lot of plays. So it was crazy to see utah losing that fashion. They'd never lose this badly, especially at home but I didn't have a run at home.
Speaker 1:Some type of streak must have been broken with them winning it, because they won this like a certain amount of consecutive games at home.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know, but again it was a little bit different because they were playing at 10 am but both teams had to play at that time. So I don't necessarily want to give too much of credit or blame to either side, but I do think your fans aren't going to be nearly as crazy at 10 am, as they are actually 9 am, as they are 8 pm when it's night, and they've been drinking all day Shit 12, dude Like what are we doing?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no question. So like it was definitely a weird scenario, but Utah's fans brought it, they did, but it just wasn't. It's just a little bit of extra gear that they didn't Michigan, notre Dame I mean, I'm sorry, michigan, nebraska Michigan won that game 30-27. This was a game I kind of felt bad for watching when it happened because, looking back on it, michigan kind of had control, especially in that second half. But this game was close pretty much all the way through. But it just felt like Nebraska was not able to score easy enough in order to beat this Michigan squad, because Michigan had two plays of like over 75 yards of just big touchdown runs they had in this game and with if Nebraska can't stop those big gashes, they just weren't able to kind of get back into this. In this one they did have that one very big moment at halftime, like right before um, right before halftime hit, there was a point where Michigan should have called a timeout and made Nebraska punt, but they didn't and then let Nebraska run it all the way down to like one second around the 50-yard line and they just called their timeout and said you know what, we have one second left, we could have one last-second heave and Dylan Reuel threw it to the end zone and one of his wide receivers came up with it and that's what tied it up at halftime. But in the second half Michigan's run game just really controlled it from start to finish.
Speaker 2:Justice Haynes, the guy they got from Alabama 17 carries, 150 yards and a touchdown. That's pretty good, even their backup running back, the Jordan Marshall six carries, 80 yards and a touchdown. And then Bryce Underwood also got involved eight carries, 61 yards and a touchdown. Bryce Underwood didn't have to throw the football really at all. He only had 105 yards off 12 of 22. So like he didn't, they didn't ask him to do a lot, but it's just.
Speaker 2:I think the difference is is that when I picked Nebraska to win this game, I just thought they'd be ready for the moment more, and they weren't. And then Dylan Rayola as well as he played as kind of clean as he played he, he made that one bad interception that he had. That was a bad, bad moment. And then outside of that, their defense just could not get enough stops in order to get back into the game like they probably wanted to. Um, next game missouri beat south carolina 29 to 20. Lenora sellers did play in this game the guy that on one play looks like cam newton and the next play looks like complete garbage.
Speaker 2:Um, he didn't have a great game but it was a nut, but again he 18 to 28, 302 yards and two touchdowns. Like he'll have those awesome looking plays that make you think like, oh, this is why this dude is looked at as potential number one pick in this upcoming draft, but then he's just not consistent enough. It gives me um anthony richard.
Speaker 1:Richard vibes, exactly as you described me, yeah.
Speaker 2:Give me those vibes. But again, when he's on, when it's on and he's going, it looks insane. But it's just against a Missouri team. That's just a good football team, knows what they're doing, can run the football very well. South Carolina just couldn't get the win there. And then, last but not least, we'll get to your game. Yeah, michigan, michigan State, usc, usc won the game 45-31. But I'm going to let you go. But I'll say this one thing I did bet Michigan State plus 18.5 won the bet because they only lost by two touchdowns. But I think I hate when people look at me after my team has lost and talk about what do they call it? Not metaphorical wins, but like the silver lining. Right, they try to sell you the silver lining. But I will say this is a game last year where michigan state gets donkey stomped and they lose by 50. I agree, the offense showed up. The defense is definitely a struggle in comparison with, like if you match last year's defense, michigan State had, with this year's offense, fire insane, like it would be so good.
Speaker 2:Defense was so good it was so good and again I'm not even sitting there saying like they were one of the best in college football but they were spicy and they were able to make plays when you gave it to them and they were able to get after you a little bit bit and kind of you make some plays. I don't think they had that this year. Their defense is definitely a lot weaker, especially with the linebacker that got kicked out of the game in the first quarter the one dude who wasn't a senior last year is not a senior.
Speaker 1:this year Hall number five got ejected for a targeting call.
Speaker 2:I hate targeting. It's one of the worst things.
Speaker 1:I understand what they're saying about this one. Yes, there was helmet-to-helmet contact, but again the Titan was falling. Yeah, the Titan had turned, they were saying, as if he was a defensive runner. He was defenseless Once he caught the ball and turned. He's a runner.
Speaker 2:Right. Once you have a runner, you don't have the same protections.
Speaker 1:No, and that's what he was.
Speaker 2:He was a runner.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know that's neither here nor there. We lost the game regardless.
Speaker 2:Positive signs. You didn't get the win, but there's positive signs.
Speaker 1:There's life. We're beating the bad teams and competing with the good teams. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I think that's all I care about. Aiden Childs is actually playing.
Speaker 1:well, he is.
Speaker 2:That first touchdown drive was surgical. It was great. That was a drive I've never seen out of him.
Speaker 1:He's playing well but still misses a lot of the easy throws.
Speaker 2:He did go 12 of 21. Wasn't necessarily very efficient.
Speaker 1:The problem is he's not efficient.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:He's very, very inefficient when throwing the football. Yeah, I can agree, he misses a shit ton of the easy throws.
Speaker 2:That's my biggest problem. And then he'll hit the explosive one. It's like oh, why can't he get this big one? Give me the routine plays, but the easy plays, yeah for sure. He overthrows 15-yard gains, he overthrows some checkdowns, he overthrows a lot, and that's a lot and he runs football very well too, he had 35 yards rushing and a touchdown in this game, in a game where he needed to run very well.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, for sure. Honestly, our offense was able to keep up. You gotta get some stops. Their defense was getting stops and ours was not.
Speaker 2:Yep, that's a difference.
Speaker 1:I can't say their defense was a far cry from what I normally thought it was.
Speaker 2:USC's defense hasn't been good in years, but like this one is it's, it's better. It's better in what it's been the last couple years they can stop the run.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like very few teams, when that ball's in the air they're still kind of fucked oh yeah, their secondary is not great uh, that was apparent once we got the ball in the air. It's just somebody's business. It's oh, we got to run this ball and they kept trying to run it. And their linebacker who's? They're like, oh yeah, he's been in college forever. And I look back, he's been in college for like six years, the dude, seven foot wingspan.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, oh yes, yes, yes, he's, is it Gentry?
Speaker 1:That's Gentry right Gentry, yes, Number 18. I kept calling him the long arm of the law.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, it's huge. They showed the clip.
Speaker 1:He's a 7'4" wingspan. I'm like no wonder we can't run the ball. There's nowhere to go.
Speaker 2:It's like if they put Hamilton instead of him playing safety in the NFL. They threw him in a linebacker, that's they said.
Speaker 1:He's exactly like Kyle Hamilton, but he plays linebacker. Yep, and he played linebacker well, he played it from middle linebacker. He moved up left outside linebacker to blitz.
Speaker 2:He's everywhere he is. He had six solo tackles, two tackles for loss.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's great. Why have you been in?
Speaker 2:college so long. Sometimes it takes a while to figure it out. You're clearly good, oh yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:I just feel like this is a game we could have won if our defense was better One. I really think not having Hall there really hurt.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:When the ball was on the ground Hall was the guy who was stopping the run.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And as soon as he left, our signal caller was gone and it was a struggle.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the USC ran for 289 yards.
Speaker 1:That we couldn't get out the quarterback. Anytime we got out of him, we got out the pocket.
Speaker 2:Maieva, usc's quarterback had three touchdowns. Passing had another two touchdown rushing.
Speaker 1:He played very very good.
Speaker 2:Oh he was good, he was amazing. I do question what will happen if they face a defense that's actually going to get pressure on him.
Speaker 1:See, that's the thing I was noticing is that under pressure, he seems to be a little indecisive On Michigan State. You can run the ball, yeah, but do they play you this year?
Speaker 2:No, we don't play USC.
Speaker 1:They are lucky they don't play you because there is nowhere for him to go on that field. He can move around the pocket.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If there's a team that won't let him move around the pocket, they're going to get him and it is going to be a struggle for him, but I we're not as far away as I had thought we were going to this year yeah I agree, I'm very pessimistic when it comes to my team because I have to be yeah, I know that it could all come crashing down in a fucking instant but this is what else I'll, I'll.
Speaker 2:I'll serve you this right. Aiden chiles is a junior of rapture, sophomore technically, for his third year in college. He's not going to the league. He'll be coming back for another season. Right, you have him.
Speaker 1:You have a third year, uh, marsh real quick that the third year of marsh is Marsh's last year. Oh yeah, no question he's going to the NFL after this third year.
Speaker 2:The only part that sucks about it is that he's going to be on the same draft as Jeremiah.
Speaker 1:Smith yeah, I'm sorry bro. And the other receiver from Alabama who's been playing like ass.
Speaker 2:He's been better the last couple weeks.
Speaker 1:I don't think it's him.
Speaker 2:But it's his name. His name is going to take him far enough. I do think he may not be built for the NFL in the same way that maybe Nick Marsh is, because he's so small. He weighs like a buck, 70 tops.
Speaker 1:Is he any smaller than Jamar Chase?
Speaker 2:Jamar Chase is thicker dude.
Speaker 1:See, that's what I was trying to get to.
Speaker 2:He fills out his uniform a little bit better.
Speaker 1:Jamar Chase does have some.
Speaker 2:He has some bulk to him.
Speaker 1:He has some bulk to him, but they're similar builds. Yeah, no, I get it, but you're right, he does have a light of frame.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no question.
Speaker 1:You're right, jamar Chase is a little bit bulkier, a little stronger. He's not as bad as Xavier Worthy where it looks like he's going to break if he ever gets touched. Well, he did. He did so factually he broke immediately.
Speaker 2:He's not going to be as thin as that. Xavier Worthy is like a buck sixty Tops. He can never get bigger. He can't change that about himself. His name is Kyron Williams, ryan Williams, ryan Williams, he's getting there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he looks like he can put a little more muscle on.
Speaker 2:A little bit more, but not much, you're right.
Speaker 1:Not built for the NFL. He's never going to be like 180, 190.
Speaker 2:That's not really what he's ever going to be. Yeah, Jamar Chase, he's a little more built to him. Again, he's so fast that it's going to be hard to get a hand on him in the first place. But when you do take those hits, you have to be able to get up from them.
Speaker 1:Nick Marsh is a 6'4".
Speaker 2:He has the frame.
Speaker 1:He'll be a second round pick.
Speaker 2:No, actually he might be Again. He can become a little bit more of an exact route runner in the again. He doesn't have to be perfect, he just has to be reasonably good. I don't see him being any different from like a tech mcmillan coming out where it's like yeah, I think he's closer to t higgins or t higgins. No, that makes sense too for sure. Second round pick yeah but even early second round even in comparison to now, like why was he was taking such a bump in how important they are?
Speaker 1:was the 33rd overall pick.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he was top of the second round, which is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah march is that no, I agree I agree because, let's be up to, he was nothing but tall yeah he looked exactly like aj green on paper and shit. He fucking is. Yeah, I agree, he's just there more often. Yeah, and I don't know. I had fun watching the game, even though there was a sense of inevitability of this game's going in a direction that I can tell, but it wasn't enough for me to like I'm going to cut it off.
Speaker 2:This ain't fun. You were at least having some fun watching your offense go up and do their thing. I know we're about to lose, yeah.
Speaker 1:And I could see the defense started to make adjustments. They were getting better. It's just again the dude who calls your plays and is getting everybody where they're supposed to be. Ain't there. I know you have a different dude doing it, but it's not. You know that. Know that's your linebacker. He's your on-ball linebacker. He's coming off the line, he's also playing playing in the middle, so he's a little important, right, uh, but there wasn't a sense of dread watching my team play right, you aren't gonna get donkey stomped like it.
Speaker 2:Your team had some fight. There was no question about that I.
Speaker 1:This is a prove it game yeah can we compete with them within 14?
Speaker 2:it's fucking amazing oh yeah, for sure how bad the defense was to a certain extent, not being able to get a lot of stops. 14 is cool, but your offense, your offense came out there and played well even with good enough to beat michigan. So that is definitely not. Yeah, again, you do face michigan. It's crazy but, now I'll play this game for you. Real quick get to six wins. You told me before the season started they would never get to six yeah and now they're at three and one.
Speaker 2:Right now, all they need is three more. I just need three more wins and went to win my bet that I put on them good um at nebraska. Not this week because they have a buy, but they play nebraska two weeks from now. It's probably probably I would say, but again, ne Nebraska's defense ain't nothing to be crazy scared of True, but again, we can't stop people from running. True, that is. But Nebraska doesn't run the football that well either. It's like their passing offense. Have you seen my secondary? True, yeah.
Speaker 1:They were lost trying to cover their number six. God my bad. His name was Lemon. Yes, yes.
Speaker 2:He's small, but he's very explosive.
Speaker 1:And he can run routes. Yeah, he was torching my secondary.
Speaker 2:I think it's McKay Lemon right, yes, yeah, they kept every time we got scored.
Speaker 1:It was a very zesty touchdown. I'm going to blow my brains out. You say that again to me Shut. You say that again to me Shut the fuck up. Sorry, I was tweaking.
Speaker 2:I heard it like twice. I was like, oh, that was a zesty catch.
Speaker 1:I'm like oh, I'm going to kill you when I get a chance. Stop saying that.
Speaker 2:So you say that's an L. The next game after that is UCLA. That's an instant win.
Speaker 1:Yeah, UCLA's fucking bad.
Speaker 2:They fire their head coach, their whole team might be going to the transfer portal because they can get their.
Speaker 1:Get their red shirt. Didn't they fire their head coach and a lot of their recruits decommitted?
Speaker 2:yeah, a lot of their recruits decommitted and it's talked about like because the players have only played three games. To play more than one more game, they will lose their red shirt for the year, so why would they waste it on a team that's going nowhere?
Speaker 1:so there's a chance that a lot of their's a chance that Nico and the rest of their players kind of go to the transfer portal.
Speaker 2:Even if they can't play until next year, it doesn't change the fact that we wouldn't be wasting our year with a team that's not going to go anywhere. So I'll give you that that's a win.
Speaker 1:I think they only have one recruit. That stayed with them I think the rest of them won't be committed.
Speaker 2:Indiana, indiana's probably an L. I hate to say it, but Indiana's looking good. Michigan I think it's a coin toss. Michigan's coming to Michigan State.
Speaker 1:That does help a lot.
Speaker 2:I will say I didn't really talk about Michigan. On the Michigan side of it, they can't throw the football for anything. Their wide receivers are Ass. Right now I think they have the most drops in all of college football. But I will say that, underwood, they can't throw the football for anything. Their wide receivers are ass. Right now they have, I think they have the most drops in all of college football.
Speaker 2:But I will say that Underwood is poised, he can, he has a lot of athleticism and he can run away from you. So if you're not like diligent and like keeping her in front of you and all that, he will run past you. He is a very talented physically type of athlete and I don't think he'll figure it out by then. I don't think the offense will be necessarily figured out by then, but it can go either way for sure. But let's just say, for the sake of argument, that's an l, right, I just need two more. Minnesota, that can easily be a win. That's a coin toss, though, probably. But again, it's a coin toss you can definitely have. And this is at Minnesota, though that might be a little issue. You got Penn State, probably an L, yeah, and you have Iowa and Maryland.
Speaker 2:You can win both of those games. Iowa's not good, so that's three wins. Maryland's all right, maryland's fine, but they just Okay, so it sounds like it's a 50-50. We get to six you'll definitely get to five, but I'm gonna need a little bit of like they need to show something to get to six.
Speaker 1:It's a 50-50. We get to six, yeah, so at best we're seven and five yeah, yeah, for sure at worst we're six and six yeah or we're five and six yeah or we're five and seven. Yeah, so the same spot we were last year there's a chance.
Speaker 2:I I just need six wins. I need six. And you just said before season like I would love to be bowl eligible. I want to watch. I think you'll get there.
Speaker 1:Fucking memphis, I think you'll get there, I want to watch a stomp out of utsa, like I I want to. I took out there and go stomp out a fucking mac team for for, uh, four straight quarters, just so I can have some goddamn enjoyment.
Speaker 2:Which would happen because none of your players are really going to the NFL, so they're all going to stay there. So it means they're going to play.
Speaker 1:Yes, we're going to have a cohesive team by the end of the year. We can go out there and stomp out a fucking Kennesaw State.
Speaker 2:They'll be playing a better team than that, but yeah.
Speaker 1:I hope, fucking not. I want to watch a stomp the fuck out of a Conference USA team. I want to go stomp out a fucking American Conference team. I want to go pick the shittiest team that is bowl eligible and choose them to get stomped the fuck out.
Speaker 2:So you just want a fireworks show in the middle of January?
Speaker 1:Yeah, for no fucking reason hey.
Speaker 2:I don't blame you.
Speaker 1:I want something dude.
Speaker 2:End the season on a high note. It's definitely a good way to go.
Speaker 1:A bowl game is a high note for me.
Speaker 2:No for sure, and I think it just shows you have a chance to go in the right direction.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen a bowl game in five years.
Speaker 2:And you'll have another team coming in next year that'll be veteran, that'll be ready to go.
Speaker 1:Add a few transfers. I have a problem with it. I feel like in a couple years, like two to three, we might actually be okay. We'd be pretty good. Nine, maybe ten win team.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Our coach is leaving.
Speaker 2:No, I think we're only a stepping stone for him to get somewhere bigger. I don't think there are some coaches out there that are not meant to have the blue bloodiest of jobs. I felt like if he was that coach, he would have done it by now. He couldn't, yeah, but I.
Speaker 1:We were the biggest team that gave him an offer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I think he would have shown to be that type of coach if he was going to be that.
Speaker 1:You also said he was going to stay at Oregon State for the long haul.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he went to a Michigan State program Because, again, at Oregon State for the long haul, yeah, but he went to a Michigan State program because, again, oregon State, they don't have a conference right now.
Speaker 1:True, but again he left a sinking ship Again. Good coaches, leave us for the SEC.
Speaker 2:But again what I take. But here's the thing you're not going to really find more money in the SEC than what you have with Michigan State. They have backing, they have money backing, they make money with the Big Ten. I don't think going from there to an SEC team is really going to be all that much for an upgrade, unless again, like unless he shows he's a top 15 coach in all of college football and he's going to go do like an Ole Miss or a Florida job. I don't think he's leaving. So again, a year-by-year basis. I don't think he's leaving, I agree. So Again, a year by year basis.
Speaker 1:I gotta think ahead when it comes to my football teams. The Bengals only have Eight more years left and this one's already chalked. So we Legit my last podcast. I was talking about hey, if the Bengals go back to being bad, they got eight years to fix this shit and we are losing one. We have lost Most of this year. We get him back for. I was talking about hey, if the Bengals go back to being bad, they got eight years to fix this shit and we are losing one. We have lost most of this year. We get him back for like what? Three weeks left of the season?
Speaker 2:He's not coming back Exactly. You're shocked. It doesn't make sense for him to come back.
Speaker 1:At this point, everybody's always trade for Jameis. In all honesty, it'd be more fucking fun than watching Jake Browning throw a goddamn interception over and over again Straight to the defense. At times I'm like, oh, he's okay, and other times I'm like what the fuck? But you know who? Our backup is behind him Peyton Thorne. Keep his ass in. Keep that motherfucker in. I will die if I watch another fucking game of.
Speaker 2:Peyton Thorne, you've seen that firsthand.
Speaker 1:I have seen that shit. I will fucking, I will castrate myself if I watch a game with Peyton Thornton at home. I know what he is. He is ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree with you.
Speaker 1:Browning is again. He's Jameis Winston. I'm going to throw a shit ton of interceptions and the next time I'm going to throw seven touchdowns and then go back throwing interceptions. He's a 50-50 ass quarterback with a great completion percentage somehow. How the fuck is that possible? How does he have such a great completion? He has like a 70% completion percentage.
Speaker 2:I will get to that game, but this is what I will say. He's not as bad as that game against Minnesota showed Like.
Speaker 1:My nigga, you saw square at halftime. My defense Credit to them. They've played some good fucking football and I feel bad Because during that game they didn't play bad football.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:They played good football.
Speaker 2:Carson.
Speaker 1:Wentz was doggy ass. He was not good, he was fucking horrid. Carson Wentz was not good they were winning in spite of Carson Wentz.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 1:My divas was playing good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, good is a hard.
Speaker 1:They were playing okay. No, for what they are. They're playing fucking okay. No, for what they are. They're playing fucking phenomenal For what they are Jordan.
Speaker 2:Battle.
Speaker 1:Feeding the fucking League of Interceptions right now.
Speaker 2:He did have that one pick For sure.
Speaker 1:They're playing great Football For what I expected Y'all to be. Y'all are playing great, they're okay, they're playing fine. They're a. They're a Bottom, like playing great, they're okay, they're playing fine. They're a bottom, like bottom 10 teams.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But they're like the ninth best.
Speaker 2:They're worse. Yeah, they're like nine.
Speaker 1:You know, what Nine would have got us to the fucking Super Bowl. This is the most infuriating part With how they played recently the last two games nine, nine.
Speaker 2:It's manageable. It's manageable.
Speaker 1:No, we would have been fucked Super Bowl.
Speaker 2:Or at least you'd make a very deep playoff run.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now the season is fucking shocked because y'all want to cheap out on a fucking O-line.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That center of the O-line, yeah, that center of the O-line that everybody said is fucking horrendous.
Speaker 2:Guess where that nigga came from.
Speaker 1:That nigga came from where that left guard was at. Yeah, orlando Brown wasn't blocking his ass. No, miles got lined up right between that left guard and center and just fucking blew past the ass. Mims has done his job. Orlando Brown did his job. Yeah, no, the center of the line, left guard, center and right guard Everybody's like hey, they're all fucking ass Draft somebody.
Speaker 2:So bad.
Speaker 1:Y'all drafted no one.
Speaker 2:Here's the plus You're going to have a fire ass. Draft pick. Y'all better draft fucking defense.
Speaker 1:This is the other problem. Y'all need defense so fucking bad. You better draft a defensive end. That is a fucking hit, and then in the second round you better draft a fucking line, oh yeah because you're not going to have Henderson next year.
Speaker 2:So like that's gone Smart. Stewart, I'm not going to cap at you. Ain't fucking bad. He's not awful.
Speaker 1:He can stop the run like a motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but again not.
Speaker 1:You're a worse Sam Hubbard dude, because, sam Hubbard, you know what he could do Get a fucking quarterback, but not that you can stop the run. We can move you out to defensive tackle, which, funny enough, we've been doing. You are a defensive tackle, sorry. I love the Bengals so much and right now the Bengals organization is literally blowing off our own legs with a shotgun, shooting themselves in the foot. Ain't a strong enough expression for what you guys are fucking doing to yourself.
Speaker 2:You blew off your legs with shotguns?
Speaker 1:Yeah, because this is horrendous. You have lost your bro for another year.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Which means you've lost a year on Jamar Chase and T Higgins' contracts.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Which means you'll have even less money going into next year.
Speaker 2:Yep, this year is supposed to be a cheap year because you gave him the extension.
Speaker 1:And they're still on their contracts.
Speaker 2:So now you're losing Trey Hendrickson.
Speaker 1:They're all going to get more expensive. We're going to have even less money to pay everybody and they're all going to get more expensive. We're going to have even less money to pay everybody and Jordan Battle's not signed yet. Our best defensive player, our next best defensive player, doesn't have a contract yet Because he was a third-round pick. Who Jordan Battle? He needs a contract going into this year.
Speaker 2:He was a second-round pick.
Speaker 1:No, he was a third-round pick.
Speaker 2:And he's in his third year. You're fine.
Speaker 1:They don't get longer than three-year contracts.
Speaker 2:They get four-year contracts, there's just no.
Speaker 1:No, the fuck they don't. You told me this on pod. You said they don't get three-year contracts.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:They don't have four-year contracts. This is the last year of Trey Hendrickson looks sluggish. You know why he hasn't fucking done it in all year. True and Jordan Battle's our best.
Speaker 2:But heck, you know what's crazy. You gave him all that extra money to play for this year and now you gave Hendrickson that money when you could have just taken draft picks For fucking nothing, for nothing. You could have taken draft picks.
Speaker 1:But yeah, jordan Battle needs paid. That boy's playing great. You're not gonna pay him top money, even though he's currently playing like he's a top fucking safety in the league.
Speaker 2:Um, he's been playing amazing we'll just talk about that game, just because we kind of went so far into it. I didn't even minnesota 48 didn't watch it, since I told you not to like. You're in the middle of doing car stuff and I'm like jace, don't even turn on I was doing oil changes because I didn't give a fuck about watching my game.
Speaker 2:You knew it wasn't going to be good. I knew it wasn't going to be good. We both picked Cincinnati to win that game because I was like maybe Carson Wentz can be that bad.
Speaker 1:That's the only thing that gave me cadence is Carson Wentz's ass.
Speaker 2:And Carson Wentz did not play well. He went 14-20, 173 yards, two touchdowns, but the thing is they didn't need him to do anything.
Speaker 2:Because they, because they ran the football like crazy. Jordan Mason, their starting running back, had 116 yards off 16 carries. He averaged seven yards a carry. Also added two touchdowns on top of that. Hawkinson had a touchdown. Josh Oliver had a touchdown in this game and wasn't there. Which player was it? Was it? Isaiah Rogers had a pick six, I think he had a fumble, scoop and score and I think he had another fumble or something like that that he caused. So he had 14 points by himself. It was just like an avalanche dude and the Bengals just couldn't get out of it.
Speaker 1:It doesn't help Jake Browning through two interceptions.
Speaker 2:Those two picks were bad. Those two picks were really bad.
Speaker 1:Who the fuck is Brett Ripien?
Speaker 2:Ripien.
Speaker 1:Is Peyton Thornton on my team? No more.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's Brett Ripien, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he must not be on my team.
Speaker 2:Thank goodness, or he's on the practice squad, or he's the third trigger now. You guys didn't run the football well, it's not like we really expect you to.
Speaker 1:Well, we didn't run the football well because it's like well, hey, y'all can't throw this bitch, so we know you're going to run. They just kept stacking them behind us.
Speaker 2:Jamar Chase had 50 yards, receiving off five catches. T Higgins had 15 yards. But here's the problem. I think this is the biggest issue is that you had so many fumbles in this game. Samadji Piran had it's fumble, noah Fant had a fumble, jamar Chase had a fumble, that's three fumbles lost right there. That gives the ball right back to Minnesota and they had short fields and they took advantage of them and they scored points. So apparently this is the worst loss the bangles have had since like 1973 and, to put that in perspective, the team started in 1971, so like they were, so they were not really an established, established team.
Speaker 1:They were better five years after they started existing than we are right now. That's fucking.
Speaker 2:So they have not had a loss that bad in a very long time. I killed myself over that.
Speaker 2:Like I said, I don't think Browning is that bad. I think he could play better than what he played that day and I think as a team you guys had a lot of fumbles that you lost. If you just play cleaner football, I don't think that game was nearly as bad as it ended up being, but it was definitely a sight to behold by how ugly that game was. And again, it doesn't give me any type of positivity because guess what? Minnesota's got to face the Steelers next, and I don't think we're going to be playing much better against them. I think I guess we'll have a little bit more of a defense, but our offense is going to get donkey-fucked by Minnesota, and that's in Ireland too. So they're going to take a plane all the way to Ireland from the United States to go lose that game and have to come back. So it doesn't make me feel great about that whatsoever.
Speaker 2:Other games that happened on Sunday Packers-Browns. This game might have been the surprise of the day, probably from what team beat the other team. There was no doubt in anybody's mind that the Packers were going to win this game. And what have I been saying ever since this season started? The only question I had left about this team. That defense looks really good. That offense they have a lot of pieces to go around. But my question was can Jordan Love play consistently from start to finish? And he couldn't In that game. And here's the thing. I'm not going to give the Packers a lot of flack for not playing well offensively against that Browns defense. That Browns defense is something else and it's a travesty that they're letting that defense get wasted on a year where they're throwing Joe Flacco out there to be their starting quarterback from week to week when he's over 40 years old, can't make the passes.
Speaker 1:What are we doing about Shador Sanders? Is he garbage? What the fuck's happening.
Speaker 2:I don't know, man, I don't know how they haven't gone to somebody else.
Speaker 1:Is it weird to say I think it's just out of spite at this point they won't do it?
Speaker 2:I sure hope so, because I don't think that these coaches will be willing to risk their jobs off of trying to make a point Right. If there's a chance that any of those young guys that you have on your roster can give you a better chance to win football games, they should be doing that. So I don't want to think that they're going to cut their nose off to spite their face, but maybe that is the case because Joe Flacco has not been good whatsoever. He's been horrendous, been bad. And here's the thing about the Packers in this game your offense did not. Jordan Love did not necessarily play all that great, but he didn't have to Like again, the Browns offense is so putrid they could not do anything, they could not move the football on you guys, other than Quinshaw Judd kids, who had a close to a hundred yards rushing off 18 carries and a and a touchdown outside of that.
Speaker 2:They couldn't run the foot, they couldn't move the football at all until jordan love through that one interception you just can't throw that gave the browns a short field, that gave him that, that they gave him the touchdown, the only touchdown they had in this game. Now this is the browns team that has not scored 18 points a season. And that's who the? The?
Speaker 1:packers lost to. They were supposed to be the best team in the NFL and I was apparently not again.
Speaker 2:I I actually I believe in the rest of that team. I think the defense has shown me enough to where I'm like. Well, with Michael Parsons. I think that defense can be truly, truly legit, if not elite, but it's just can. You can Jordan Love and I think I heard this somebody say this perfectly where Jordan Love does not.
Speaker 2:Jordan Love believes he has something in him that can make him elite, but he does not have the thing in him that tells him like, hey, let me just be a guy that can run the team and not ruin it. He thinks he can go be Aaron Rodgers, he can go be Patrick Holmes, and I don't think he is that. I don't think physically he has all the talent to be a superstar. I think he could be a very good starting NFL, but I just don't think he believes that. He thinks he can go out there and make all the crazy throws and not turn the football over, and that's exactly what he did. And he gave the Browns. That short field led to the touchdown they had and even with all that being the case, everything had gone wrong. The Packers had a chance at the end of the game to tie it up, to take it to overtime. But guess what happened? The Browns blocked the freaking field goal, and I'm not sure you said you didn't watch a lot of NFL.
Speaker 1:The whole day was filled with blocked field goals.
Speaker 2:I did see a bunch of those, a bunch of the block field goals In a bunch of different games, and I'm just like this is insane, how many are all happening in one Sunday worth of game. So, again, like I said, jordan Love, he just has to be consistent enough and he just definitely was not, which is why they lost that game to the Browns. But it's just, I'm not going to thank too much of the Browns for that. Their defense is like, honestly, truly like amazing and it sucks. They're going to ruin that this whole season of their Brown, of their defense being great, with throwing Joe Flacco out there next game Colts Titans. Colts won the game 41 to 20.
Speaker 1:Daniel Jones is good, good.
Speaker 2:Like better than good. Like he's awesome right now. He's playing well, he's running the offense, he's making big plays when he needs to. He's not giving the football to the other team, like the Giants might be a dumpster. Graveyard of quarterbacks outside of Eli Manning. Graveyard of quarterbacks outside of Eli Manning. Like how does he leave the Giants and then finally get his first starting opportunity with the Colts and he looks like a totally different dude?
Speaker 1:He does. He looks way better. He looks more confident too, throwing the ball.
Speaker 2:So confident 18-25, 220 yards and touchdown. I do have to give myself a little bit of a pat on the back here. The running back that you said was ass and that will never be healthy. Jonathan Taylor looks like the best running back in the whole NFL right now.
Speaker 1:I don't know, you haven't seen Scadaboo.
Speaker 2:I don't get it. I'm not going to talk about it.
Speaker 1:He had 100 yards at one point in the game. You know how much the team had. Excluding his numbers 127th, he had 44, receiving 40 rushing at the time. I don't know what brand of CTE he has, but I like it and I like him. He's not as talented, he's not as elusive, he's not as fast. You know what I think about him. I think he wants it more. I want itusive. He's not as fast. You know what I think about him. I think he wants it more. I want it more. That's what I think about him. I think it makes him a great running back. He will not be here for a long time. That motherfucker does everything.
Speaker 2:Here for a good time, not a long time. That motherfucker only leads with his head.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no for sure by 40, he will be wheelchair bound. Yeah, there's no other way to say that. He is leading with his head. Yeah, but damn, is he fun to watch. He is fun to watch. I like how he plays football.
Speaker 2:I was just trying to get myself credit on Jonathan Taylor looking awesome and you take it.
Speaker 1:This game's got to do.
Speaker 2:He had 102 yards rushing, three touchdowns off 17 carries. Averaged six yards a carry. He looks like the best back in the NFL. He's awesome and him along with Daniel Jones on the football around. Michael Pittman Jr is awesome, had a touchdown this game. Alec Pierce was great. Tyler Warren is like one of their like. He's like the joker card in their offense, like he just does a little bit of everything. Wild card, probably this better word, better thing to say on that. But again, did I expect anything different? No, tennessee Titans not only is their team awful, cam Ward is trying so hard, he gets sacked a whole bunch. He has no help around him whatsoever.
Speaker 1:He has no time in that pocket. No help, I feel very bad because he makes some amazing fucking plays. It shows he was worthy of the number one overall pick by a fucking mile but that team is awful.
Speaker 2:Their coach is awful. That coach is like in insanely bad. He will be fired after this year but they're gonna have a very good draft pick after they lose a bunch of games and they're gonna add to this team to kind of help cam ward out. But outside of that, like that team does not have anything to look forward to whatsoever. Talked about that game already Steelers Patriots Steelers won the game 21 to 14.
Speaker 2:I talked about this in the last pod where I was going by myself. I asked like there's a gym friend of mine that I have that we just talk every week. We talk about the Steelers. He's a Steelers fan as well and I asked him before this game last week would you feel better Because again, we all know the Patriots are not necessarily not a good team at all Drake May and then pretty much have a bunch of nothing else on that team outside of Stephon Diggs, and even he's not playing all that well. I asked him would you be more worried, based on the team that we have right now? Would you be more worried if we got blown out by the Patriots or we beat them by a close margin? And he said, beat them by a close margin. I agree Cause I'm sitting there like if we are the team we're supposed to be. There's no way this game should be close to the Patriots at all. And this game was close all the way down to the wire. Patriots had a chance at the end of the game to go and get into the end zone and tie the game up. The Steelers were able to force five turnovers against the Patriots. They got five turnovers and if that is the case, there is no fucking reason If you get five turnovers in a game where you should only be beating the team by seven points, one touchdown should not be a one-possession game.
Speaker 2:The offense for the Steelers was awful. Aaron Rodgers didn't necessarily play great 16-23, 139 yards, two touchdowns and a pick. The pick was bad. He threw pretty much a Patriots player by himself Was not a close throw to anybody in a Steelers uniform, so that did not look great.
Speaker 2:I still can't run the football. Outside of Jalen Warren making Herculean efforts every once in a while, we can't run the football whatsoever. We got Calvin Austin. We got DK Metcalf more involved, but our offense just doesn't have any type of explosivity to it, especially when you have DK Metcalf. There's no reason you should not have a more explosive offense and we just don't.
Speaker 2:Our offensive line isn't playing all that great and I don't even think it's about our tackles not playing well, because I do think they're starting to play better week by week, but our guards are not good whatsoever. Our center is very good and I believe in him, but our guards are awful. I don't believe in that whatsoever. And the guy I was talking to at the gym. He told me like hey, did you know? Rodgers didn't even get sacked that game. I'm like there's no fucking way. There's no way. He didn't get sacked, he got. He was getting pummeled on all game but he kept getting the ball out. So I'm sitting there like it.
Speaker 2:The game was even worse than what it was because of how inconsistent this whole offense is, but I will give um, and not to mention our defense, still can't stop a nosebleed when it comes to the pass drake. May went 28 of 37 for 268 yards, two touchdowns and a pick, and there was multiple times where the patriots got into the red zone and their running backs fumbled, trying to go into the end zone like multiple times. And even though we forced five turnovers, I truly think the only ones the steelers actually earned was probably like two of them, because the other three was like the running backs, just not holding the football and they were just able to punch it out magically, because it shouldn't have happened that way. Um, drake may play well, um, but it's just. We cannot stop the pass whatsoever.
Speaker 2:Hunter Henry there was a leading receiver had eight receptions, 90 yards as a tight end and two touchdowns. Yards as a tight end in two touchdowns, Would you like to know. Kayshaun Boutte is still in the NFL. He also had a couple of catches in there. Ramondre Stevenson had a few catches but, like it's just, the Steelers cannot get off the field on third down and that was definitely an issue.
Speaker 2:But the only positive I'll give for the Steelers defense was that. Why am I forgetting his name? Oh, no, derek Harmon, the defense tackle we drafted out of Oregon. He was able to come back in this game and there was a difference there. We actually were able to make a couple plays on the defensive line. He also got in on a sack, so he was able to get after the quarterback we stopped the run a little bit a couple plays on the defensive line. Um, he also got in on a sack so he was able to get after the quarterback. We stopped the run a little bit better. So that's something I will give the sewers a little bit credit for defensively.
Speaker 2:But our secondary is absolute cheeks. Again, we don't. We're missing a few guys but, like, even still, I don't think it's much better, even with the starting guys that we usually have out there. So, um, I'm not feeling great. I'm very close to just saying chalk up the season and just go lose as many games as possible, but again, it's never going to happen. So I'm not going to sit here and wish for something that's never going to happen. So you know is what it is.
Speaker 2:Next game Eagles Rams. Eagles won 33 to 26. This game was a tale of two halves. Did you know? In the first half, jalen Hurts went eight. I'm like sorry, what is it? Oh no, now I got to check here. Recap Jalen Hurts had like 18 yards passing in the first half and then the second half had over 200 yards passing and three touchdown passes. It was crazy how much it stopped on a dime between the first and second halves. The Rams were able to get up and down the field in the first half, able to score Matthew Stafford 19-33, 196, two touchdowns and a pick this game is a fun watch um Kyron Williams ran the football well.
Speaker 2:He had 94 yards rushing. Blake Corham had another 53 yards rushing. Um Puka Nakua played great 11 receptions, 112 yards. Devontae Adams three receptions, 56 yards and a touchdown. Kyron Williams also had a touchdown, receiving two receptions 18 yards.
Speaker 2:But it was just in that second half the Eagles were just kind of unlocked. The offense started throwing the football a lot more. Because here's the problem they ran the football so much in that first half and it wasn't working. And Jalen Hurts, they just didn't let him do anything in the first half and then they finally kind of opened it up in the second half to start throwing it around. Aj Brown finally had a game where it looks like he was involved. He had six receptions, 109 yards, and a touchdown. Devontae Smith eight receptions, 60 yards and a touchdown. Dallas Scout got in there, had a touchdown 33 yards off one reception.
Speaker 2:So is it crazy that it seems like the team the Eagles have to be forced into a corner to let Jalen Hurts go out there and throw the football?
Speaker 2:It just seems like they don't even know which guy they have at the helm, because it's like when you let him go out there and do his thing, he performs for you in the Super Bowl, in the games last year where he had to throw, I get it.
Speaker 2:You want to still be that team from last year that Saquon was just running all over folks running, running for over too close to 2,000 yards and playing that way. But Saquon has not had a great start to the year and I think to a certain extent you have to show that you're able to pass the football, to open things up for your running game and I think if you're not going to do that, then teams are just going to keep getting tighter and tighter defensively and just make you throw the football around and they finally let jalen hurts do it and he played very well. I get it. You don't necessarily want to become one of the top five passing leaders, like in and in the nfl, but like you, just have to have a good balance and I'm just like in that first half they had no balance and in the second half they finally started doing.
Speaker 1:They won this game, a lot of their games.
Speaker 2:They don't have any balance in the first half and they figured out in the second half like they go into the first two quarters with like a 70 30 and by the end it's more like a 60 40 because you have to be throwing the ball but like, like we talked about earlier, like you're cutting your nose to spite your face, like at some point you have to realize like, hey, maybe our team would be a little bit better if we just start open up the offense a little bit earlier in games to where you're not kind of trying to dig yourself out of a hole and again, if not for like certain things happening in the in the second half, the rams had a chance to hit a field goal to to either tie or win the game and there's a block field goal and then I forget which d which-tackle it was.
Speaker 2:Why am I forgetting his name? Jordan Jordan Davis Took that football all the way down. Apparently, they said he ran 18 miles an hour at one point and a dude, that's like 6'5", 360, he's not that. He said he lost a little weight, he's like 320.
Speaker 2:A guy that big, moving that fast is crazy, so there was still a chance for the rams come back and like win this game.
Speaker 2:But the rams just kind of pulled somebody, um nick wright, who's the big chiefs fan, who's all over tv. He kind of like it was a backhanded compliment to kind of give himself some credit is that he said the eagles of this year is kind of like the chiefs of last year, where the team is doing just enough to win these football games but it doesn't look pretty and you're just like, hey, are there issues there or are they just going to keep winning these football games until the issue finally came in the Super Bowl when the Chiefs had to go up against the Eagles.
Speaker 2:But, if the Eagles keep playing like this all year and they get into a game in the playoffs where they're facing a Rams team or facing a Lions team, that's not going to let up on the gas. They're not going to give you an opportunity to start throwing in the second half and get back into it.
Speaker 1:No, they're going to force you to stick to doing what you were doing.
Speaker 2:Right. So I'm like the way the Eagles need to change. They need to be more balanced and I think, saquon, they just need to open things up for the whole offense to give everybody an equal chance to kind of come out there and play better. That's what made it easier for them to run.
Speaker 1:Last year their offense was so open that you couldn't focus, and then, when they would stack the box, you would leave AJ Brown or D'Var Smith on the outside, one-on-one with somebody, and that's when you would torch them over the top.
Speaker 2:You just can't be so stubborn. You have to be willing to change with the game plan Once you get to a point like that.
Speaker 1:It's like we're just going to throw eight in the box. Yeah, you're not throwing the ball, we know you're not, so we're just going to stack it. The Rams, the Niners, were doing that too at one point. They just you knew what they were doing with the ball.
Speaker 2:Just don't make it hard on yourself. Sometimes you just got to open things up, and the fact that this game was close at all is kind of insane. No, justin Fields in this game he was still on concussion protocol, but it didn't matter. The Buccaneers just didn't necessarily play all that great of a game. Baker went 18-29, 233 yards, one touchdown, zero picks.
Speaker 1:This is the one game I did watch.
Speaker 2:Bucky Irving had a decent game, but they didn't run the football as effectively as you think they would have. Baker Mayfield had 44 yards rushing off four carries. Emeka was awesome. He keeps like did you see the one-handed catch on the sideline?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:He's fucking filthy. Did you see what Baker?
Speaker 1:said about it no I didn't, I didn't. He was like. He said what do you think is more impressive, the one-handed catch by Emeka Ibuka or the clutch catch in the fourth quarter by Emeka Ibuka? He was like I don't know, I think you're disrespecting my pass with the one-handed catch and I was like. He was like he was like it's darn rookie and I was like that's funny I was like that's pretty cool. Emeka Ibuka was great in the biggest moments, when he needed to be amazing and he was there he was amazing and it shows I was never the number one on my team but I never had to be.
Speaker 1:But it shows how talented he really is, to where he was always on the field with the best guys they trust him and they're like, hey, we're gonna just like put the offense through you this is the dude that you said. Brandon Tillis is just as good as fuck out of my face. Bitch ass nigga.
Speaker 2:Disrespectful ass, nigga sorry mike evans only had four receptions, 33 yards and a touchdown. He's out for a while, ain't he?
Speaker 1:no, he's still playing I thought he hurt his hamstring oh, yeah, you're right he did.
Speaker 2:yeah, he's expected to miss multiple weeks. That was announced today after injuring his hamstring. Yeah, so, yeah, he's going to be out for a little bit, so, but again, they were showing a Macca Bucca, like they were giving him the football even before, and he just keeps.
Speaker 1:I told you. I told you it was going to be the number one.
Speaker 2:He's awesome man. He's a great I. It's nice to see him getting this type of shine in the NFL that he wasn't going to get in college because he was playing with Marv and he's playing with and playing I was always around the best players, so I could never be the best player, but now I am the best player and he's producing like he is and he's showing, he's showing out and it's awesome to see um.
Speaker 2:But the Jets, they did their thing. Tyrod Taylor went 26 to 36, 197 yards, two touchdowns and a pick. Um, they didn't run the football all that well, which is kind of crazy, because it's not like. Tampa bay's defense is like locked down. Um. Garrett wilson had a great game 10 receptions, 84 yards and a touchdown. But it was just tampa just does this thing, like they were dominating this game from start to finish would I be crazy to drop joe burrow in fantasy?
Speaker 2:no, I don't think so sorry tampa was dominating this game from start to finish. Would I be crazy to drop Joe Burrow in fantasy? No, I don't think so Sorry. Tampa Bay was dominating this game from start to finish until the Jets were able to score 21 points in the fourth quarter and, like this, game should not have been close. But it's just, Tampa Bay just doesn't know how to play a game where they just kind of cruise to a win.
Speaker 2:It has to be a last-second chance to go out there and win the game. It has to be a last second chance to go out there and win the game Again, they did that. Mclaughlin hit the game-winning field goal, but it's just. Again, this game should not have been all that close, but again, at some point your team just has to go out there and finish the job and just win a football game. That's exactly what they did. Next game Raiders-Commanders Commanders won this game going away.
Speaker 2:We both picked the Raiders in this one thinking that, oh no, um, jane Daniels, like a Marcus Mariotta, is coming in. This team might take a step back. It didn't matter this Raiders team, their defense is absolutely atrocious. Geno Smith, even though he played well, he went 19 to 29, 289 yards, three touchdowns, zero picks. But it's just. They were not able to get any stops defensively, to kind of help their team out, because the Raiders scored 24 points and most times that's usually getting you a win or if not very close. But Washington scored the 41 points.
Speaker 2:Marcus Marriott played fine 15-21, 207 yards and a touchdown Passing. He also did have a touchdown rushing as well. He went six carries, 40 yards. But Jeremy McNichols went four carries, 78 yards and a touchdown. Jackery Krosky-Merritt Jackory, it's Jackory, I said Jackory, jackory Krosky-Merritt. He had 26 yards off, eight carries and a touchdown. So like washington from and I think they had a couple of um special teams touchdowns as well so like they were doing everything possible and they were just kind of like leaving the raiders in the dust and it's just their defense is so bad that I just don't think they have any type of opportunity to kind of go out there and win football games, even though I think their, their offense is good enough to go out there and win. I really do think they have pieces offensively, but it's just defensively. They're just so bad.
Speaker 1:And so just not to be able to win Everything. Gent, he's like terrible Um he hasn't been great. I, yeah, yeah, yeah, have you seen his O-line? It's not good, it's not great. You're talking like every time he gets the ball Because the first tackler never gets him, as we've seen. It's just His O-line is selling the fuck out of him. Yeah, I agree, and I feel very, very bad Because it's not showing what he is, because, yeah, he was a top 10 pick and he should have been a top 10 pick.
Speaker 2:He is that good it's just the question is, if you're going to be a running back pick that high, you have to be generational for that pick to be worth it it's hard to be generational when the pocket's collapsing. No, I agree, the ball's just been snapped no, but I'm saying that's like that's the pressure he's coming under, being a top 10 pick coming into the NFL. People are expecting him to look like that dude, and I think it's unfair.
Speaker 1:No, it's unfair, but I just think that's what comes with it, because there's nowhere for me to go.
Speaker 2:But the Raiders knew that when they picked him. Yes, but I feel like they put in a and they took him thinking like oh, our offensive line will be good enough, it'll be fine it was not.
Speaker 2:And it's not so like. Same thing with Saquon. They wasted him for years with the New York Giants because their offensive line wasn't good enough to accentuate him. And then he has one year with the Eagles, destroys the NFL, runs for 2,000 yards and they win a Super Bowl. So I'm just like when you take a guy like that, at that point you better have an offensive line to help him be able to be successful from day one.
Speaker 1:And they don't.
Speaker 2:It's not good.
Speaker 1:You have to have a good line for your running back to be okay. Yeah, no question, it's just what it is.
Speaker 2:Next game, panthers beat the Falcons 30 to fucking nothing. And this was not about the Panthers offense playing all that well their offense did not play at all like good at all.
Speaker 2:Bryce young went 16 to 24, 121 yards, zero touchdowns your picks. He did nothing. They ran the football effectively. They had over 100 yards rushing in this game. Chuba hubbard had 73 yards rushing, rico doddle had a touchdown. Um bryce young had a touchdown run. But this game was totally about how bad Michael Penix was, and I think me and you have both been on the Michael Penix is good side of the argument, right, we've both been like hey, he can actually be very good, he throws a pretty ball, but he had a disaster of an outing on Sunday 18 of 36, 172 yards and two picks.
Speaker 1:See, I think the game was just too easy for him.
Speaker 2:I just think it shows like if you don't bring your A game and if you're like you can lose to anybody.
Speaker 1:You can lose to anybody.
Speaker 2:If you mess it up. The Packers showed that, and so did the Falcons, and I'm just sitting here like and again. The Falcons aren't nearly as good as the Packers are, but it can happen.
Speaker 1:Real quick. Did you take the over-under the?
Speaker 2:Panthers won more than three and a half games. They already have one win, so probably. You think they can win four games? No, no, no, no, no not four?
Speaker 1:Is the over-under three and a half or two and a half?
Speaker 2:As of right now. Yeah, it's probably three and a half. It's probably around four and a half, if I had to be honest. Crazy, oh, they don't have their betting stuff up here like it should. Ain't that a shame.
Speaker 1:Sorry, you should send me more bets. Make a couple.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'll let you know Again. I just don't need you to be mean to me.
Speaker 1:You have sent me ten bets. I have lost ten bets.
Speaker 2:That was all last year, all last year.
Speaker 1:How many bets have you won this year?
Speaker 2:I have won a decent amount. I've been doing a lot more singles and not really making a bunch of parlays. Just send me some College football.
Speaker 1:I'm doing a lot better. Great, send me every one you make For college football Just every bet.
Speaker 2:Let you pick and choose from them.
Speaker 1:What do you?
Speaker 2:use DraftKings.
Speaker 1:Do you have ESPN bets?
Speaker 2:I had ESPN bets because I used all the free bets they gave me and then haven't really used it since. Draftkings is where I just kept all the money on. Probably should diversify a little bit to get some better odds.
Speaker 1:Have you won enough money to be able to report it to the tax?
Speaker 2:There was only one year where I had I bought remember when I won like the 700 dollars. That was the only year I had to report it because, like, as long as you don't take the money out and they just keep that's how I usually do it I'll end up winning a good portion of my bets and I'll just use that for the next week and then I end ended up losing it. So again, if I ever it's ever like big amounts, I just take it right out, but it's never again. I'm changing my betting differently, where I'm not trying to do a bunch of parlays, even though I end up doing parlays, I'm trying to do more singles as well, try to keep the money flowing no-transcript. So I'm trying to just be a little bit more, not just trying to throw money at it, hoping it's like a lottery ticket, just trying to get a bunch of parlays in Next game, texans-jaguars these two teams could not figure anything out.
Speaker 2:Trevor Lawrence played bad. Cj Stroud played bad. I think CJ Stroud's truly struggling right now because of how bad that offensive line is and even with that, their defense is so good. There's still opportunities to win these football games, but it's just heck. They got to a point where they were going down the field to win the football game and he gets the ball to Nico Collins and he fumbles it, gives the ball right back to the Jaguars and they end up going down there and winning the football game. So neither of these teams look all that great. I think the Colts might have a commanding lead going right now. I think they would probably win this division easily, just because of how consistent that they look so far.
Speaker 1:Isn't that crazy, yeah, insane.
Speaker 2:Definitely not anything we would have bet coming into the season from how good they look. But it's just. Neither of these teams wanted to win. Jaguars did win 17-10. But Trevor Lawrence just keeps making boneheaded plays. Brian Thomas Jr, their leading receiver, is just not looking like that dude in comparison to what he looked like last year. Am I crazy for saying he doesn't look like he wants to get hit at all If it goes over the middle? He doesn't have strong hands.
Speaker 1:Trevor Morris throws a lot of fucking hospital balls. He does.
Speaker 2:It doesn't help. But again, at the same time, let's get this one thing straight You're not wrong If I'm Brian Thomas Jr.
Speaker 1:This nigga's trying to get me killed. That one pass he threw against the Bengals, I would've let that shit go too. Fuck your interception.
Speaker 2:That would've been a touchdown though.
Speaker 1:Oh yes. Brandon Knight would've ended his career. Brandon Knight Was so ready to hit him. That he couldn't even stop in time. He just had to hug him. Yeah, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2:I was so ready to hit him that he couldn't even stop in time. He just had to hug him. Yeah, you're not wrong, that was a hospital ball?
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm not going to go. How about you, trevor Lawrence?
Speaker 2:throws a lot of them bitches.
Speaker 1:I promised Brian Thomas Jr, I'm looking at my coach, do not send me over the middle. That nigga's trying to get me killed. He throws, he is throwing no, he throws, he is throwing no. Alright.
Speaker 2:No one throws a hospital ball like Peyton Manning would. No, peyton Manning was protecting him.
Speaker 1:You're fucking lying that one white dude that was a different NFL, though. No, no, no no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no, I think his name was Coxie, the one white dude.
Speaker 2:Austin Colley.
Speaker 1:Colley.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was throwing, colley out there, but he was a tight end, but he was a tight end, but he was a tight end though.
Speaker 1:Doesn't fucking matter, he was throwing Collie out there To the fucking wolves. You saw, collie would get hit. The whole hat Snapbacks Stiffen up. Peyton Manning Well you good, alright, it was good you caught the ball. Get up and catch the touchdown. They would send his ass Over the middle to die. And then he went to the Broncos. What was the other white dude's name that he sent to fucking die? You remember the play? Shit was preseason.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, Do that bitch Long Knowing there's a safety over there. That boy got hit so fucking hard they didn't even make it to him in time before he stopped seizing Peyton Manning's the king Real quick. He would get that tight end fucking murdered. That tight end's on like. If you ever look at the hardest NFL hits, that tight end is the second play that comes up after the fucking Broncos dude. So you get that out there first, sorry. And Trevor Lawrence is no better.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:He's always trying to get Brian Thomas Jr killed.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And fuck you, I'm not catching that ball. That is a death sentence.
Speaker 2:I get that part.
Speaker 1:I watched it, dude. There's nothing you can say to me.
Speaker 2:I watched it. Yeah, no, you're not wrong, brandon.
Speaker 1:Knight would have Ended his entire fucking season. Yeah, and then been called for targeting.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not catching that shit. He throws that shit dead fucking center of the field every time and there's always a linebacker.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you're not wrong, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1:You're not wrong. If I'm honest, no one on that team looks fucking functional. I watched Trevor Lawrence again last week wave his fucking coach off.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Trevor Lawrence keeps getting coaches fired and I'm going to be honest with you, he's the problem. Trevor Lawrence is the problem at this point.
Speaker 2:You know, what doesn't help Is that they used a top five pick on drafting. Oh no, why am I doing?
Speaker 1:this Travis Hunter.
Speaker 2:And they're not using him whatsoever. They're not using him effectively. He had one catch for 21 yards and I'm like he's not playing well at DB. Catch for 21 yards and I'm like he's not playing well at db, and then on when he's on the wide receiver side, they're not using him effectively and I'm like he's a good enough athlete to go out there and just throw them in the football and just let him go out there and make a play and they just don't use him in his hands.
Speaker 1:If you get the ball in his hands, let him make the use, do screens, do short passes, like anything out there and they're yeah ball to him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and they're not doing it and I'm like then what the hell did you use a top five pick on him? For if you're not going to use him, you're letting him play both sides, but you're not trying to get him manufacture touches to let him go out there and make a play for you.
Speaker 1:This whole team is dysfunctional. This whole organization is starting to become dysfunctional.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying that's the same about Houston. I just think their offensive line they thought that they were just going to trade away the pieces. I get it, they were older and they were expensive. But they were like, hey, we're just going to go get some guys off the street and they'll play better. And that's just not how that's worked. And they let so many dudes through.
Speaker 1:The right guard, Alex Kappa yeah from the bangles. Hey, real quick, he's the same dude that. Let let up the sack. That tore joe burrows, uh, hamster, um, acl yep, so just beware. You got him for dirt cheap for a reason like it's just.
Speaker 2:Their whole offensive line is just letting everybody through. Cj's not comfortable. He's not playing well Again. I'm not going to sit here and be like it's all on the offensive line. He's not playing well either.
Speaker 1:But I just think that he can't trust it.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get hit. And when he does have time and he looks comfortable in there, he's making plays, he's getting the ball to Nico Collins, he's getting the ball to those guys, but it's just not consistent enough. That defense we're using is so good, they're going to be able to win football games, but it's just. Can they get CJ comfortable enough to get back to what he was doing his first year? That's the biggest question, because I don't think he'll be able to trust that for a while because of how bad it's been Again. The Colts might be the best team in this division by far. They might have this division won by the late end of October. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's crazy work.
Speaker 2:It's crazy. I never would have guessed that. Only a few, not that many, games left Broncos Chargers Chargers won 23-20. Herbert didn't play all that great but he made the big plays when he had to. Did you see the play where he was running to his right, had the defensive player right in his face sidearms it to keenan allen? Insane again, the thing that we have seen from him for so many years saying like, hey, if he can just throw the football, he throws a beautiful ball. He has an ignorant arm talent. Like he can just go out there and just throw it and they're letting him do so and he's playing. He's playing decently well this season. I think he's the um mvp favorite right now and again. He didn't even play all that great on sunday, but like he did enough to go out there and win. You have to answer for your boy, your boy, bonex, the guy you rode so hard for, saying he's that guy and he's very good.
Speaker 1:Bo.
Speaker 2:Nix has been shit this whole season 14-25, 153 yards, a touchdown and zero interceptions. He ran the ball for 33 yards.
Speaker 1:It's not bad.
Speaker 2:It has not looked good at all this season. It could have been worse, yes, but you were coming into the season saying like, oh, bo Nix is going to show you he's really good, he's a top 15 quarterback. No, he isn't, he's a top 15 quarterback. He's been playing like garbage and you can't blame. He. Doesn't have the weapons around him, he has weapons. He has running backs.
Speaker 2:Jk Dobins had an awesome game on sunday 11 carries, 83 yards in a touchdown. I think he also had a passing, a receiving touchdown as well. Uh, no, he didn't need to set that rushing touchdown, but like he has weapons. Courtland sutton, pretty good receiver, had 818 yards in a touchdown. But it's just like they are. They're offensively, they're just not consistent enough defensively. Like they have pieces. But it's like like they're offensively, they're just not consistent enough defensively, like they have pieces. But it's like their defense, like their defense wasn't a problem on that day, it's just the Chargers played better in general, but it's just they did what they had to do.
Speaker 2:Oh, by the way, najee Harris tore his Achilles. I just think it shows that he played in Pittsburgh for five years and then never had an Achilles injury or anything like that, and then he goes. I just think it shows that he played in Pittsburgh for five years and then never had an Achilles injury or anything like that. And then he goes to play with the Chargers plays, on turf, tears his Achilles in the matter of three weeks. I think the NFL needs to get rid of turf. I think they need to get grass, especially when you're in the Chargers stadium. You have perfect weather. Why in the hell would you gonna have grass? You?
Speaker 2:could have grass maybe you're like, oh, we want to be able to do concerts here. But I'm like you can pat you, they tile that stuff up where you just pull it right up and you just have to treat it. Just make sure you treat it right and it's fine if you're in la, there's no reason why you should have a turf, like why you should not have a grass field. It it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1:I think every NFL team should have grass. Something about turf.
Speaker 2:Well, they say that turf has no give right. Because turf it's on hard material, so like you can run fast with it, but it doesn't have any type of cushion at all. Just like when you're running on dirt On grass there's dirt underneath, it feels like there's a little bit more give. Turf does not have that. So like when you have your cleat stuck in the turf and you get twisted a certain way, there's no gift for it. So like then next thing you know you're tearing an achilles. So again, chargers played well, but nausea hair is getting hurt. It's definitely not a great thing, but quentin johnson still playing good football Six receptions, 89 yards he might be their best weapon now, that's crazy weird.
Speaker 1:That's crazy weird.
Speaker 2:There was a time where he couldn't catch a pass to save his goddamn life.
Speaker 1:No, there was a time where everybody was telling his mom to go get another job because he's about to be out of the NFL. That was the first. Because he's about to be out of the NFL, that was the phrase he said. I'm going to retire, my mom.
Speaker 2:I was like, hey, Tyler, go get a job.
Speaker 1:And he's been fine. He's been great this year, legit. They showed it in practice. Hey, make sure he can see the ball.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Keenan Allen played great 65 yards and a touchdown off seven receptions. Lab McConkie's not really involved. Again he got. Why am I bringing the Corner's name For Broncos?
Speaker 1:Patrick Chautain.
Speaker 2:Yeah, patrick Chautain was on Ladd-McConkie all day, but it didn't matter. They had Quinton Johnston, they had Keenan Allen and they got Omarion Hampton, who had like 59 yards receiving. So they got the ball to a lot of guys. They went out there and won the game.
Speaker 1:I think they had a game-winning field goal they had to get, at the end of the game, one of the only field goals that wasn't blocked.
Speaker 2:True, yeah.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that was definitely a good one for them. That was a little loud, huh. Seattle Saints. Seattle won the game 44-13. Game wasn't close. They won. They beat the Saints in every single facet of the game. They did it offensively, they did it defensively. They also did it in special teams. They scored a touchdown on special. They had a 101-yard kickoff return touchdown.
Speaker 2:This game wasn't close. Spencer Rattler tried to do his best, best, but it just didn't work out in this game. They couldn't run the football. They couldn't run, they couldn't pass football effectively. But again they just kind of like ran up against the avalanche in the seattle seahawks and they just couldn't get out of it. And they play well. Jsn did played great five receptions, 96 yards and a touchdown. Um, it's just, seahawks just were able. Everything was working for the Seahawks that day and the Saints were on the back on the other side of that. And again, it's not like these two teams are all that close, talent wise in the first place. So everything's going that well for one team and that and bad for the other. It led to a overwhelming win in Seattle's way.
Speaker 2:Bears-cowboys. I said before this game, when I was doing the preview, that the Cowboys' defense may make the Bears' offense look very good, and it was that day. Caleb Williams went 19-28, 298 yards and four touchdowns. It felt like every single touchdown pass that he had. There was nobody within five or ten yards of the wide receiver he was throwing to. Did you see the flea flicker that they had? That was so wide open. It was insane how open he was.
Speaker 1:There was no one in the vicinity at all. He was wide the fuck open.
Speaker 2:It was so bad, and not to mention on the Cowboys side. Ceedee Lamb had an ankle injury very early on in that game and couldn't play and then it felt like as soon as that injury happened the Cowboys were pretty much out of it. They couldn't. It almost felt that offense is. So CeeDee Lamb-, centric, centric, centered, that as soon as he got hurt they literally have nothing else they could do with that offense. They went and got Pickens and he. They just couldn't do anything else offensively once CD Lamb left that game. Javante Williams, their running back, ran the football decently, but outside of that they really didn't get a lot done offensively and it just the bears were just kind of like running away with it. They jumped on them early and it just never looked all that great again. And, like I said, they're going, it's going to make Caleb Williams look very good. Um, ben Johnson, their coach, was in his bag when it came to making offensive plays. And just don't get attached to the idea that the Bears offense is now going to be fixed. That's my thing about this is don't get tricked into that if you're a Bears fan. But it looked better, it's a step in the right direction. Maybe Caleb Williams will take this day that everything worked in his favor and maybe use that as a confidence booster to then take that into um, take that into the next few weeks where he'll be playing better ball. But it's just, it's not going to be this easy every week, cause I do think that Cowboys defense may be the worst in the NFL like by a long shot, especially how bad that secondary is. It's absolutely a putrid Um.
Speaker 2:Next game Cardinals Niners. Niners won the game 16 15. The game was disgusting. Marvin harrison had a few drops in this game. It definitely was not very marvin harrison like he had. This is like the one pass where it was like right in his hands and he dropped. It was very bad. And then he also dropped one where he was like leaping in the end zone could have had touchdown there. He also dropped that one. That wasn't the reason they lost this game.
Speaker 2:I think defensively they didn't really play well enough. They weren't able to get off the field on third down like they needed to. I think offensively, like I said, kyler Murray is so up and down like he'll have a couple of drives where it looks great and all the drives like their offense totally stalls and they have really nothing they can do. They did lose, which. This is a game of injuries, right. James Conner tore his. I think he broke something with his ankle or something like that. He's going to be out for the season. He suffered that injury. It was very gruesome looking Once he was gone. They really had nobody else to be able to really run the football at all. On the San Fran side they lost Nick B bosa.
Speaker 1:He tore his acl he's out for the season to the niners real quick.
Speaker 2:Mac jones did play pretty good football. It's another week where mac jones is showing he can do.
Speaker 1:I listened to your pod last week. I'm just saying he's making my point 15 minute tangent about it.
Speaker 2:He's making a point, I'm just saying he's making my point.
Speaker 1:On like a 15-minute tangent about it.
Speaker 2:He's making a point. I'm just saying Next thing you know they want to give Mac Jones a job and tell Brock Purdy to get out.
Speaker 1:Okay, real quick, Because they can get it for cheaper. They should just chalk the season and go get a high draft pick. You guys Go get a quarterback. Who knows the guy?
Speaker 2:And here's the thing they won this game because they have players on the team that know how to go and get the job done and win. They have Christian McCaffrey. They have winning culture and I think that winning culture is what won them that game, because the Cardinals played better that day. Like there's no reason the Cardinals shouldn't have won that game no but it's just and the San Fran just pulled it out.
Speaker 2:Man, it's just what they do. But the problem is they're 3-0, but they've been the most shaky 3-0 of all the 3-0 teams I've seen. So I don't know. They're like either the most healthy team in making a deep playoff run or they are like abnormally injured in a way that doesn't even seem real. That's exactly what this team is right now, like everybody that they have is practically injured, other than Christian McCaffrey and Mac Jones, leading them to wins. Crazy how that works. Just saying Brock.
Speaker 1:Perry, don't be out for too long. They'll start to think Mac Jones is a better quarterback. They'll start to question you.
Speaker 2:Oh, don't let it happen. They did it to.
Speaker 1:Jimmy G every time he was injured.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly. Next game we got two left Chiefs-Giants. Chiefs won the game 22-9. Russell Wilson, even after the 450-yard game against the Cowboys he came out and was absolutely awful. You did say Cam Scadaboo was the only good thing about that offense in general, they couldn't get the football to Malik Nabors at all. He had two receptions for 13 yards. They just couldn't manufacture touches for him at all. And then every time Russell Wilson thought there was a deep ball to throw and he threw it. And he threw two picks. Because of it he's awful.
Speaker 1:He went 18 of 32 for 160 yards, two picks, and it's just, they can't really.
Speaker 2:Jackson's dart is starting next week they announced it that they are studying um sitting. Russell, wilson and jackson will be starting next week, but here's my problem Do you have to start him against the Chargers?
Speaker 1:defense. Yeah, I would have at least let James Winston go out there and just sling that bitch for a little while.
Speaker 2:Let James Winston go out there and play for a couple weeks. It's not like he's going to go out there and destroy it cut it up to where you'll think he's a starter.
Speaker 2:He'll be better for Russell Wilson than Russell Wilson. But I think two weeks from now he'll throw a few picks and you're like, oh, that's why he's a backup, so he's not going to go out there and win the job. He's not going to go out there and play that good. But I'm just like, why would you want to throw Jackson Dart out there in a really bad spot Against a good team at the Chargers.
Speaker 1:dude, You're at LA.
Speaker 2:It's a bad spot. It's a bad spot. But maybe it just shows how confident they are in him that maybe they don't think it'll shock him that much.
Speaker 1:Or they're just like hey, let's just fuck it, let's just throw him out there.
Speaker 2:Or they're just a badly ran organization that's just trying to find any life raft that they can find and the? Hey, we had a rookie quarterback. We lost that many games because of it. That might be the only thing that saves these coaches jobs because of how bad it's looked so far. Um, but kansas city they won the game. They're now one and two patchmore homes. They looks very bad in the first half. Their first half was awful. He did throw that one backwards pass that the it was about to be a scoop and score and then patch my homes went to that defense player and ripped the ball out of his hands and took it back. So like that might have saved their season, because if that would have been a scooping score, the Giants would have been up at that point and it might have literally destroyed their whole season if they went down 0-3. But they won the game. They're 1-2. They now go play the Ravens next week and if they win that game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the Ravens have been finding ways to lose football games, so I'm like I'm not going to sit here and like guarantee that it's an L.
Speaker 1:The Bengals are still on top of the AFC North, and it infuriates me that we're still on top of the AFC North. How the fuck are we never winning our division right now?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to get at you. It is infuriating. I'm looking at the rest.
Speaker 2:I think it's because you already played a division game, obviously playing the Browns.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And then you have a better record.
Speaker 1:Than all of you. You're all 1-2.
Speaker 2:No, we're 2-1.
Speaker 1:You've won two games yeah.
Speaker 2:How we beat the Jets in week one and then we beat the Patriots this last week. I know I don't feel great about it. I feel like I'm 1-2, but we are 2-1 technically based off wins and losses.
Speaker 1:Based off stat line, you guys have lost three games.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it has not not even stat lines. It has not looked pretty at all, if I was just to show somebody a stat line of the games.
Speaker 1:The team is like dominating you on the field but somehow they're not scoring because your defense is that good.
Speaker 2:The defense has not been that good. It's last game where they create all those turnovers, but our defense has been putrid these last three games. For the most part I'll take it, but it's in the first game our offense had an explosion where Aaron Rodgers played probably the best he'll play the rest of his life. And then this last game where we got five turnovers and it turned and it helped us win a game by only seven um.
Speaker 1:but yeah, only seven points.
Speaker 2:But chiefs got their win. Play against the rave. If they went beat the ravens next week, I think it'll turn their season around and they'll be on the up and up. But I do think they still have issues. They can't run the football effectively at all. It was a little bit better but it wasn't good enough.
Speaker 2:Um, and then patch one was still missing some passes that like, you're like, why is he missing those especially deep balls? He's just overthrowing all that. Kelsey and, um, their coach, andy reed, did have a little bit of a sideline thing where andy reed kind of like went up in his face and bumped him and I'm like this is weird, but andy reed apparently said we needed some juice. So that's why I did it and I'm like, okay, I'm like, but if you're a team that like, is that team where you just like, if you're steady and ready to go, if you don't have any issues, you don't need to do something like this. So it does show a little bit of desperation to me, but again, it's just the charters are better, I think. I do think the charge probably when the division but like, is the rest of the AFC good enough to where it keeps them out of the playoffs altogether? I don't think that's the case, because of how bad the AFC is. Everybody outside of the best teams, everybody else just cheeks.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:Last but not least game last night Lions Ravens Lions win the game 38-30. Literally, we first started talking. You mentioned the Derrick Henry fumble. I don't think that was the reason this Ravens team lost.
Speaker 1:I think Dan Campbell has the biggest balls on the planet.
Speaker 2:He keeps going for it, man, and it keeps working, man. Did you see the one play on the fourth down in goal? Fourth?
Speaker 1:and two.
Speaker 2:And they hand it off to Amonra St Brown, and then he pitches it off to oh no, gibbs. He pitches it off to Gibbs for the touchdown. I don't think they are still having some creative plays. Is it at the same rate as when they had Ben Johnson at the helm? I don't think so, but again it makes them when they do it at the perfect times, it's just as effective it works.
Speaker 1:Motherfucking fourth and two David Montgomery. He's been running like a motherfucker all game. All you have to do is drop this shit off to him and he's getting that first down. No, play action pass. I'm already talking. Mara St Brown down the field. Yeah, what the fuck? Yeah, I was sitting there tweaking. I'm like never in my life David Dan Campbell plays like he's playing a fucking Madden game.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Fourth and two close enough for me and you know what? It's not stupid, because it's a culture. It is a culture of always attacking. It's what always works. There is no pucker. Their asses never pucker in these moments, because they're like, hey, we're going to go for it and that's an expectation. It is not like, oh, should we do it? It is we're going to go do it and we're going to attack, and we're going to go win a football game and their whole team believes in it and it's an absolute.
Speaker 1:It's a culture. At this point it works. You do the exact opposite of what Kyle Shanahan doesn't know how to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:That's why he loses so many Super.
Speaker 2:Bow, I'll say their offensive line is playing better for the lions and it's looking a little better there it's playing better. They're running the football like crazy.
Speaker 1:The fact the other thing is Montgomery 151 yards off 12 carries.
Speaker 2:Jameer Gibbs had 67 yards off 22 carries, so like they both had two touchdowns.
Speaker 1:It's still crazy they can have two running backs, stay at that high of volume and play so well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but damn they both had two touchdowns. Amar St Brown showed out seven receptions, 77 yards and a touchdown. Jamison Williams made a few big plays here or there. Sam Laporta also came in and did some things. For the Ravens. They're 1-2. If they lose to the Chiefs next week it's definitely a big L in their season so far being potentially 1-3. But Lamar played well. But I think the difference for Lamar, I think the problem for Lamar, is either when he throws the football, it's he's absolutely on it, dude, he's throwing, he's throwing strikes, but there are times where he doesn't either Does it decides, he does not decide to run fast enough, Um, or he doesn't throw it away. He's always trying to. He's kind of like Joe Burrow, he's always looking for the bigger play.
Speaker 1:I need to make, I need to create, I need to throw, I need to figure it out. I need to find where I can put this ball that isn't me taking a loss or throwing it away.
Speaker 2:But I just think if you're Lamar Jackson, you run the football as well as he does. You always have another option and I just feel like he's always looking for the big play down the field throwing the football. And I feel like he, if he just threw the football away a little bit more or if he just ran, I feel like their offense would be a lot more, a lot more stable. Derek Henry played okay. He had that. He had the 50, had 12 carries, 50 yards and a touchdown, had that fumble. It was a bad fumble in a bad spot but again, like I already said, I don't think that was the reason necessarily lost. Mark Andrews had a great game Six receptions, 91 yards and two touchdowns. Rashad Bateman played well Again a guy we never really think too much of, but when he does show up he plays well. Justice Hill 45 yards receiving the Ravens defense is not good, but again, this whole game was not necessarily a great defense at all. But the Ravens the fact that there was two drives where the Lions were able to have a 98 and a half yard touchdown drive and then they had another 95 yard touchdown drive that's the difference in this game that one of the touchdown drives took 10 minutes off the clock and I'm just like that's how the Ravens lost is because they could not get any stops, and especially with the Lions able to run the football as effectively, as effectively as they did. I think that's a difference, dude. And again, will that be? Will the chiefs be able to take advantage of that? I'm not sure, but I don't know. It's just a weird look for the Ravens for their defense to be as like atrocious as it is at times, but it's just when their offense is playing well. They can do anything they want to do, but it's just with having some missed, badly timed turnovers and then their offense kind of sputtering out at times. It's just in bad spots. I'm not saying over a whole game, because I think their offense is kind of a juggernaut when they're rolling. So I'm just like against a team of greater caliber, this will be an issue, but it's just the fact they're starting their season one and two right now, potentially one and three if they lose the Chiefs, it could definitely ruin their season very early if this goes badly. But yeah, that's pretty much it. And, like you said, dan Campbell big balls, big balls man. He just keeps doing it. And Jared Goff awesome game, he just like. As long as he can throw the football and has some protection, he'll get the ball where it needs to go and they'll be very explosive because of it. And this is what it is. All right, that's all the games.
Speaker 2:Wnn recap too. What is I just want to get the Thursday game so we have our pick there and then pick there. Oh, by the way, I went 10-6. You went 9-7. Difference was you picked the Giants to beat the Chiefs. For some crazy reason. I picked the Lions to beat the Ravens. That was the difference. Those were the two games that made the difference for our records there. Let's see here.
Speaker 2:Schedule Thursday game. Thursday game is Seattle at Arizona. Who are you picking Seattle? I'm going to take Seattle as well. Arizona is not consistent enough. I do think Marvel have a better game. Um, I think he'll take this game where he had a bad one and he'll play a lot better, and I do. I think Seattle has the dbs to necessarily stop him if he, if, as long as he, they get the ball to him is a little bit of an issue, but outside of that, I just think that seattle is a more consistent team right now. So I'll take seattle to win that game and that'll be it there. So that's about it for us today. Um, we're back together doing the thing we love doing doing the podcast thing, talking about football, and we'll be back probably Friday to talk about all the games coming up this weekend.
Speaker 1:I don't even want to talk about football.
Speaker 2:I know you don't, but we have to because we do this thing.
Speaker 1:I don't have the energy to talk about NFL football anymore.
Speaker 2:Maybe we just got to draft. You put names in a hat so you can just follow a different team for the year. Maybe, Because, again, you don't have to root for them forever but like, hey, my team sucks, so let's go ahead and pick a different team to kind of attach myself to. Or you can just go and pick the Lions or something like that, because it's a trendy pick.
Speaker 1:I'll watch Tampa Bay. That'll be fun With.
Speaker 2:Baker, that actually wouldn't be bad because especially they're they're in the nfc, so it doesn't like affect you at all. So tap day is your new team for the year. Like your, your, your place a team yeah, okay deal you're a bigger guy for the year or we'll take it to get you attached to football.
Speaker 1:I have nothing in the nfl to watch. I don't want to watch football. Joe burrows hurt. I don't even want to. We're gonna go to a football game this year. I don't want to fucking go.
Speaker 2:I don't blame you. It'll be cheaper though It'd be, it'd be cheap as shit.
Speaker 1:They're probably selling tickets Like a motherfucker. We could probably go to a game, be in the first couple of rows and pay 300 bucks. Yeah, because Joe Burrow's not there, why am I going?
Speaker 2:Yeah, what is this season going to be? Like, we're going Very cheap. But you know again, if you attach yourself to a different team because again, I think the NFL for you is like the college for me I'm so Ohio State based Like, hey, we lost three or four games in a row, I'd be ready to kill myself. There's no reason to care about college football if Ohio State's not a part of it, and the same for you If Joe Burrow and the Bengals aren't that team. Like able to go out there and play every week. What the hell am I here for? Like it's chalked, no, I get it. As soon as he got up limping and I was like, oh no, we never talked about how crazy of an injury that is like quarterbacks getting turf toe doesn't fucking happen.
Speaker 2:It is a freak, fucking injury, freak injuries dude, and it's every time, I guess the only one like no, no, all of his injuries have been freak ones, freak fucking injuries Like a torn ACL, which is like something that just happens to you. You have the arm thing, which barely ever happens. It's more of a baseball injury. Now you have turf toe.
Speaker 1:Insane.
Speaker 2:Freak fucking injuries and nothing that will have long-term effects at all, but it's just it'll ruin him for the year.
Speaker 2:He'll be back the next year, but now you have a lost season that you just won't be able to do nothing with now. Insane how that keeps working. I don't know. It sucks. I feel bad for you, man, I do, but again, you're now a Baker fan for the season. It's you, and it'd be so fire if I bought you an Emeka. And then I get the pride of saying, oh, he gets to wear a Buckeye.
Speaker 1:You see, I'd prefer if you just bought me like a bigger jersey. I know A Vita Vea, that'd be a cool jersey. But you respect Emeka where you wouldn't necessarily burn the jersey. I respect Emeka enough to where you say Brandon fucking Tillis was as good as Emeka Ibuka and I tweaked the fuck out on you on podcast. I was like fuck no.
Speaker 2:Who you did, who did I say?
Speaker 1:Brandon Tillis, your third receiver.
Speaker 2:Brandon Innes, who gives a fuck. You know what that is and I tweaked the fuck out on podcast.
Speaker 1:I was like you're fucking tweaking.
Speaker 2:I didn't say he's better.
Speaker 1:I said he can give you a no and I was like you know what the fucking difference is between him and Mecca Abuka. I was like he's been at school for three years. It's the first time I'm seeing him. Emeka Abuka was at school for three years and I saw him several times in the field, true.
Speaker 2:I was like they are nowhere near the same caliber. I agree, but again, I was as a slot receiver, not necessarily as a number two guy.
Speaker 1:Emeka was a slot receiver. But yeah, but two receiver, like there was no question. If andrew butts about it, that doesn't change nothing that you keep saying. Brendan tells me who you talking about, but it's brandon. He's a nobody.
Speaker 2:You said that shit, but again, do you know what? I also said, that it was blasphemous. When I said it, I said that he would have better stats in the first week against texas than um, than jeremiah smith would turns out. They said no fuck that. We have a young quarterback. We're just going to throw to the outside the whole time. Who cares about having a closer receiver to you or the tight ends? We're just going to keep giving it to our best players, and Carnell Tate and Jeremiah Smith are the guys they throw to. But yeah, who, who?
Speaker 1:is he? I don't know who the fuck that is Carnell Tate.
Speaker 2:No, I fuck, that is carnell tate. No, I know carnell tate is. Yeah, I know what the brennan is saying. I get it, I got. I got. It was a little bit of a hype when it came to the preseason where he was like tearing it up and from the slot. I got a little excited. That's on me, that's on me you are a nobody receiver in comparison to jeremiah smith, and a mecca and a carnell tate yeah, probably on your roster right now.
Speaker 2:I know better than him but here's my thing do I think he lacks of talent? I don't think so. I just think that he may not necessarily be the superstar that a great number one, number one receiver at minnesota yeah, but it's just.
Speaker 2:Can he be a number one at ohio state? Probably not, and that's where. That's where I think the difference is. A mecca was good enough to be a number one. He just had the pleasure of being with marvin harrison and jeremiah spith on the other side, so it made his job easier um, and now he's showing I'm and now he's showing out in the nfl of that caliber.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's that dude and I always knew he loves he's fucking filthy.
Speaker 2:It's awesome to watch him play.
Speaker 1:He's again, I'm gonna enjoy watching the tampa bay you're a tampa bay fan for the year?
Speaker 2:all right um. So that's where we're at.
Speaker 1:I can't even Explain to you. I went to a movie that same night, wanted to wear my Bengals jersey and I was like I can't, I can't, yeah. Because, I don't want to Talk about football.
Speaker 2:No, I get it, I do.
Speaker 1:He's hurt. It came up. He had turtled Like an hour before the movie and I was like wear my jersey, so now it's just sitting on my dresser.
Speaker 2:Like a shrine Nothing I can do with it, man.
Speaker 1:Like a shrine to a dead man, the only other Bengal jersey I have is a AJ Green jersey and then a Geno Atkin jersey and a Carlos Delamite jersey.
Speaker 2:Let's be honest, I guess the only other guy you'd want a jersey from on the team is Tee Higgins or Jamar Chase. I guess, if you like one little dark horse, chase Brown's doing his thing too.
Speaker 1:I would sooner take a Logan Wilson jersey than a Chase Brown jersey. Or a Jordan Battle jersey.
Speaker 2:I get it. Chase Brown's a little bit more replaceable, so I guess you can get another running back.
Speaker 1:He's the most consistent running back in the NFL, which is a statistical thing. He's very consistent.
Speaker 2:But he's playing a smaller role in that offense. Like you can get another running back to play that same role. I can find another one of you in the third round of any draft, for sure I get it. No, a Jordan.
Speaker 1:Battle jersey would be cool. 27. That'd be cool.
Speaker 2:I ain't bad, but again, if they don't pay him in a couple years it'll all be for naught year.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, this is his third year. Yeah, and at this point you gotta pay him I'll take a logan wilson jersey.
Speaker 2:That'd be cool.
Speaker 1:55 that's good. That's a good number too.
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