Magnitude of Playoff Baseball to CFB and NFL Previews

The stadium felt louder with every pitch—and that’s the tell that October is here. We unpack a knife-edge Yankees–Red Sox series where a rookie shoved his way into the record books, small ball won the series, and one managerial decision nearly flipped a season. It’s a masterclass in playoff tension: when to ride a starter, when to trust the bullpen, and how contact, baserunning, and relentless pressure can tilt nine innings without a single home run.

From there, we zoom out. College football’s biggest questions aren’t just rankings—they’re ceilings. Why does Penn State keep stalling in the same places? What does a real evaluation of Arch look like against a defense that punches back? Can Washington handle a cross-country test with injuries on their defense? And is Ohio State’s NFL-style blueprint—elite defense, controlled offense—both sustainable and scalable when a game turns into a track meet?

Then it gets raw in the NFL segment. The Bengals’ season sits on the fault line between protection and pretension: bad offensive line, backup quarterback panic, and a defense asked to hold forever. We talk honest fixes—draft trenches over sizzle, trade for picks if the window’s closed, and hire a head coach who amplifies Joe Burrow’s play. We also parse the Shanahan paradox in San Francisco: the system rewards obedience, punishes hero ball, and wins anyway. Along the way: turf vs. grass and why injuries keep stealing stars, plus a smarter overtime that would actually decide games.

If you live for postseason edges, QB truth serum, and clean, unvarnished takes, you’re in the right place. Tap follow, share this with a friend who loves October pressure as much as fourth-quarter drives, and drop a review to help more fans find the show.

Transcript

Back Together, Format and Flow

SPEAKER_02 0:09

Welcome back, J We Swiss Podcast. Today is Friday, October the third.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

We are supposed to be doing two are back.

SPEAKER_05 0:20

You know. We are back. Oh, both of us are back. Yeah, no, but here's the thing, right? The consistency maybe go up and down with who exactly can be on, and really mostly that's you, because you can't run the podcast by yourself.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

I can.

SPEAKER_05 0:39

No, I'm saying you could probably you could probably talk for a podcast by yourself, but actually setting it up for yourself and doing all that. We've never even talked about that conversation.

SPEAKER_02 0:48

Yes, we did. There was a couple weeks we would swap off who would be set up the podcast, and I did it like three or four times.

SPEAKER_05 0:56

Yeah, but like setting up the whole the mics and all of it. I think you did it the old one, but the new software and all that. Again, I'm not saying you don't have the capacity. I'm just saying, based on how our podcast is set up, it's very rare that I'm not going to be the one on the pod.

SPEAKER_02 1:13

Again, I work a little different than you do, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:15

No, for sure. No, I I totally understand. And it is what it is. But what I was trying, the whole main point I was trying to do is that no matter what, we're still getting podcasts out there. So maybe not the attendance with both of us here being consistent, but podcasts will be getting out one or the other, nope, by hook or by crook. And they may be a tad bit longer when I'm going by myself. Because I like I told you after I did the last pod, I went for two and a half hours by myself. There's no one talking to a laptop screen in a wall. Yeah. So like I was I it's to the point now where I'm like not impressed by it, because I'm like, on one hand, I'm like, oh, I know I can go ahead and keep talking. I my ideas can kind of cut flow out. I don't necessarily like need to like look for things to talk about, especially with obviously everything going on right now with the NFL, but in college football, but it is kind of like a oh, you kind of let yourself go too far.

SPEAKER_08 2:11

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 2:11

And I think you are kind of like the safety, the safety net to be like, hey, hey, Negro, we you're going too long on this, or you'll say that you're sl you're slobbing the knob on whoever you're talking about.

SPEAKER_02 2:23

I lie, I listened to your single solo podcast because I like to know what you're talking about, so I'm caught up. Yeah. Dude.

SPEAKER_05 2:30

There's some subjects where I'm like, damn, I went on about Ohio State for like a half an hour, and it was my main point being, I think Ryan Day could be the next Nick Saban. And after I would have gone on for about two minutes on it, you would have looked at me and said, Hey, I'm done. I don't want to talk about this anymore. And you would have forced me, like, not necessarily forced asn't like hit me or anything, but it would have been pure pressure, be like, hey, let's just go on to the next thing. And it would have forced me a little bit to not necessarily expound upon what I was talking trying to talk about as much. And you know, it would have made it just flow a little bit better. But I think it still flowed well, and but it just went a little long. It is what it is on that screen.

SPEAKER_02 3:08

You know, they always flow fine, you just go long on topic.

Why Solo Pods Go Long

SPEAKER_05 3:11

Again, I just have a lot of I just have a lot of things I need to say, you know? And I I'm not gonna I like I say on the solos, I'm like, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna apologize, I'm not gonna promise anything because sometimes I'll go short and be fine, sometimes I'll go long. And but I'm not gonna try to promise it one way or the other because when I want to say something about something and Jace ain't here to like make me make me stop or like start falling asleep on me, uh I just I get to go ahead and just go for it. And that I did do going for two and a half hours. Today will not be the case uh at all unless Jace decides to send us there, which I doubt. So let without further ado, let's go on and start talking about stuff. So different topic new topic than usual, but depending on if you've listened to us for a while, the time of year kind of hits the mark. We're back to baseball, man. Playoff baseball. And I think my after watching the Yankees and the Red Sox play the last three days, and here's the thing I love baseball. Baseball was my first love as a sport, Jace's as well. It is a thing that we probably attach ourselves to when it comes to like that's that's the love. We really love the game of baseball, even though we love football. We love I I love basketball more than Jace does. It's different with baseball. We played it, we have an intimate knowledge in like the everyday of it.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

There's so much more we understand about baseball compared to the average person that didn't play the sport, right? That it makes it one a lot easier to watch, two, it's a lot easier to understand baseball. There's a lot of rules to baseball.

SPEAKER_05 4:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

Um, you think football's bad? The rules of baseball are very, very, very hard to understand, especially when you are an outsider trying to look into it. That there's so much more to explain and understand about it.

SPEAKER_05 4:57

No question. Like, it's just one of those things, and he and that's the thing, is that for us it's natural, it is not one of those where we have to go and try to learn. Like, I think up to this point, I think we are we both understand football. There is not a lot of rules when it comes to that game that we don't know, and honestly, I don't think there's a lack of love for that game either. But it's just the idea that you can attach yourself to the idea that you have been in that spot doing that thing before. Again, when watching the Yankees, not like I've ever been a professional player playing in that moment, but I can put myself in that moment where I was a batter trying to hit with being in the bottom of the ninth, trying to get some runs, or trying to make that play on defense. So like it's just it's just a different attachment to it. And I God, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 5:46

It can't be matched. There's times where I think, like, dang, I really miss baseball. And there's times where I think back, it is the bottom of the ninth. There's two outs. I gotta run it on on second or first. Yeah, and I'm like, dang, either I gotta hit a bomb or I gotta hit a nice double. Uh, I'll never miss that. I don't miss that. The pressure of it. It's pressure, yeah.

Shifting to Playoff Baseball

SPEAKER_05 6:04

No doubt. And that's and this is where I'll I'll I'll kind of my main thought on the last three nights. I'll get to the game that I watched last night, which was an absolute crazy night to watch. But watching the last three nights, it really does like crystallize for me, like what there is a different, it's just a different pace. Not pace, but like when you're on playoff baseball where everything truly matters, it is winner go home, especially watching the Yankees and Red Sox play last night. It's a different, like, it's just different than watching football or any other sport, right? It's just like every moment, even though for Lily from the out one inning one to the last out in the ninth, it's just a bunch of little moments that all kind of they all matter, right? I think when you compare it to like football and like basketball, the game flows a little bit better. It feels like even though football doesn't really have cut the constant movement like basketball. Obviously, basketball moves the fat quickest when it comes to how the game works, but like baseball moves the slowest, there's a lot of things, even though it's gotten a lot faster since they've changed rules over the last couple years. But every pitch matters, every hit matters, every defensive play or not play made or not played matters. And it is just a different, it's a it's just a different feel to it, and it's like I hate to say it's like injecting drugs into my veins watching it, especially with me, Jace, as well, like one obviously being Yankee fans and wanting to see them win. It's just a different feeling than any other sport that you can watch, at least for us it is, and it was a magical experience last night. Again, watching them play all the way to the World Series last year also counts as that as well.

unknown 7:57

So heartbreaking.

SPEAKER_05 7:58

But it's just over the last couple of days, get into like more of the details of the the series against the Boston we just won. You obviously get into the playoffs like the last few weeks, the Yankees have a chance to battle, like get that last number one, get the number one spot over the Blue Jays, and it doesn't work out because literally every game Yankees keep winning, but ball like uh but Toronto keeps winning as well. So we don't we don't get to have the number one overall seed, so we have to play in the wild card, which is a three-game series. And who do we have to face is the Boston Red Sox? Obviously, being a team that's a hated rivalry, many, many years of hate, blood, like all of it, right? And you go ahead and you start that first that first game that was played, Yankees were on top, won nothing, Max Fried was going crazy. Aaron Boone makes a terrible decision, taking him out in the sixth or seventh inning, and then putting literally as soon as we put in our next guy, he gives up two runs right away, and the game's pretty much over. Because even though the Yankees do have an opportunity to win the game again, because it was like bases loaded, bottom of the ninth, and we don't get the job done. And again, can you blame him on the offense for not taking advantage of the opportunity? Yeah, probably. But also I think that if Aaron Boone wouldn't have made the bad decision of taking your starter out if you don't believe in the guys behind him, then like it's just like, oh, then like what are we doing here?

SPEAKER_02 9:20

I think Aaron Boone's one of the worst playoff managers ever. I he just I'm not he makes some shitty ass and bone-headed.

The Texture of October: Every Pitch Matters

SPEAKER_05 9:27

He has too many moments where it doesn't work out well for me to be on his side. And especially after that Max Fried thing, because I'm sitting there like, if you just let him go for again, it hadn't even gone badly yet, and then his answer after that game was, well, he was over, he was at 100 pitches by that point, and he was starting to lose his stuff, and I'm like, okay, that's some of the intimate knowledge that you're gonna know that us as fans don't know. But I also think that if you don't have dudes that you can rely on behind him to go win a baseball game, if you only have one run one run lead, then you gotta leave your starter in until the wheels fall off. And especially when you compare that, because we lose that game to Boston the first night, literally next day, they have to play again. It's again, it's a best of three. If the Boston wins that game too, then it's over. Coming in, Yankees have uh Radone starting. And Radone has his little moments where he doesn't do well, and he gives up three runs, but he ends up going for like six or seven, six innings, and there was a couple of moments where Boone had an opportunity to take him out, and guess what he didn't do? Take him out. And guess what? Radone got through the bad spots and got us as far as he could, and then we were able to, it was a back and forth game, really, because Yankees were up 2-0, then we give up the two runs to have to get um we're all tied up. Yankees hit a home run to go up, no, not a home run, it was a RBI to go up 3-1-3-2. Red Sox come back, it's all ties it all up, and it just felt like, and then the Yankees obviously get the fourth run and it was all over, but like Radone does that, and oh, not on the just on top of that was that you were worried about Ben Rice didn't play in game one, and then you put him in in game two, he hits a home run, literally his first at bat, um, not last night, but the night before. So, like, it's just like some of those decisions on they took out uh um well, who did they take out? It was our second baseman. Why am I forgetting his name now? Oh, uh um, oh no, this is about time for both of us forget names.

SPEAKER_02 11:26

Jazz?

SPEAKER_05 11:26

Yeah, Jazz. Jazz didn't play in game one, but I'm like, Jazz's been playing for us all year long, and they say the reason that they took both of those guys out is because, oh, we're they're facing a left-handed pitcher. We have guys that face lefties better, and I'm like, but Ben Rice is gonna be our first baseman at some point, being the every night guy, so why not throw him out there? Not to mention, he's such an offensive weapon, why are you taking that away? And then the same thing with Jazz with his speed, with it, he's able to hit, like everything that he does, he just does so much, and I just don't know why you would ever take a guy like that off your lineup, even if it's for a better matchup, when it's playoff baseball time, your best players have to show up and play and do what they can. So, why would you take two of your better players, especially all year, off your lineup? Was crazy to me. And then throw them in in game two, and those two were the heroes. Especially Jazz. Jazz made the big play in the in that in that set game two, and he also had the game-winning run. I mean, he the ball was hit, and then he literally took it from first, he ran it all the way to home. That was the game-winning run.

SPEAKER_02 12:30

Yeah, dude, I again I I think Aaron Boone is a terrible fucking manager. I don't think he's a good manager. I don't think he does many things well. I think he is okay, and I think he has a great roster. But there's managers, Diamondback's manager. That's a great fucking manager right there. He did nothing. He did a whole lot a lot with a whole lot of nothing.

SPEAKER_05 12:56

Manager for the for the Dodgers, man. Like he last year in the World Series, he was like pushing all the right buttons, and it's very rare for us to see Boone pushing the right buttons at the right time, and it didn't work until last night. Have to give Boone some credit here. Going into last night, it's a 1-1 game of the game of your life right here, and we have uh um Yankees are putting in Cam Schlitter, make sure I get his name right, as the starter, and then the Red Sox are putting in early, um, Connorly early as their starter. Two very young dudes. The starter for the Red Sox doesn't like he's even old enough to drink. Um he is, he's 23, but he looks very young. And then Schlittler as well. He is a straight up rookie, he's 24 years old, um, was in the minors at one point this season, and then he has made his way all the way up, and he is making his first start in the playoffs last night. Heck, in the during the season, he only had like seven, six or seven games where he actually started. So you're coming with a young guy, and it was he let's get to Schlitler, because he was kind of like the star of the night. He was a monster. He went eight innings, um, no earned runs, 12 strikeouts, and apparently he is the first player to ever do that. To have eight scoreless innings with 12 strikeouts in the playoff game. He is the first player to ever do that in MLB history, which is crazy because practically everything has been done in MLB history because of because of how long it's been going around and how many players have played. So the idea that a guy at 24 years old who his best pitches he was overpowering dudes to start the game, he was throwing 101. And then even when he kind of came off of that, he was still throwing 95, 96, 97, 98, and he was overpowering dudes with his four seam and two seam, and then having a little bit of a uh a little bit of a changeup with having a cutter that'll go inside on you, or he has a little bit of a curveball, but really like his main pitches were his his fastball, and he was overpowering Boston all night, and he was throwing right down the middle, throwing straight gas, and they couldn't catch up to him, and it was absolutely amazing. And that got to a point where going in that eighth inning, it's like, hey, are we gonna let him go a ninth? And he barely went over a hundred pitches, like he was awesome last night. And watching that game, everything mattered, and heck, it was like only the difference in that game was there was literally one inning, I think it was the fifth inning, where the Yankees scored all their runs. Hold on, let me just see here. Um I think it was the fifth inning, if I had to say. Fourth inning. Fourth inning, the Yankees managed to string together four runs, and it wasn't home runs, it was one double, and then a bunch of singles just getting dudes in. And sometimes the Yankees really struggle with that.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

Small ball.

SPEAKER_05 15:51

They struggle with small balls, struggle with small balls really harder string hits together. And that's exactly what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 15:59

They fucking dice us up. The game looks close on paper. Nah, we scored a lot of those inning, those runs in the third inning, and then haven't done shit since. Right. I fucking hate it, dude.

SPEAKER_05 16:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:09

I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. I hate it.

Yankees–Red Sox Wild Card: Boone’s Choices

SPEAKER_05 16:11

Because sometimes just putting the ball in play is like what matters. And what they did in that inning is it wasn't like these were amazing hits. It was just hard hit balls making Boston have to make defensive plays, and they just weren't making them that last night. And they were making mistakes, and balls were getting through. And sometimes that can just be the difference. And especially when, let's be honest, the long ball really wasn't helping the Yankees at all. Judge, even though I'm not gonna say he struggled, he really didn't struggle, he was hitting, he was he was contributing, right? He wasn't just striking out, chasing pitches, and all that. And the same thing with Giancarlo. He also he had a he was just hitting missiles all the time. There was not no home runs. There's one ball that looked like it was gonna be a home run. He had a little slow trot going, and then he realized that ball was dropping, and then he had to haul ass to try to get to second, which he did magically. Um always run again, always run until you know that thing is over. Yeah, and he was had to haul ass to get to second, even though it should have been easy. Yeah, I know. So like it was it was a very amazing series to watch, and obviously watching the Yankees go play the Blue Jays in the next round. And if they beat the Blue Jays, they'll be in the ALCS, and then we'll we'll see where we go from there. But I just have to give all credit to the sport of baseball where I'm just like it's it's when when it matters most and it's time and like you can feel the energy in the in the stadium. Because let's be honest, the Yankee, when I watch Yankee games and it's at home, it just feels like they all those fans are there to watch Yankee baseball. They are not there just for the experience, they are there because they care about the sport. And when you it's different when you go to like obviously in Columbus, where we are where we're at, we don't have any pro baseball teams. We have a triple A team and the Clippers, but like people are going for the experience, and heck, there's a lot of people not even watching the game, they're there for the food and for the social time, and then they're not really paying, like that they don't really matter. The game doesn't mat doesn't matter at all. But in that stadium against that Boston Red Sox team, all of those fans are gonna live and die by what happened that night, and you could just feel the energy through the screen watching it, and it was a magical experience to watch, especially with that young pitcher man making his mark to where if he can truly be somebody said it, um, some announcer said it during the game. He looked like Garrett Cole, yeah, who we don't have obviously because he got hurt before the season even started and we haven't had him all year, but like the way he looked out there, he like was a spitting image of Garrett Cole. And I'm like the idea that you could potentially have a guy that young that you can potentially trust with the ball throughout the rest of this playoff run and in the future, like imagine this dude when all of our dudes are healthy, he's our bet fourth best pitcher, but this dude is a monster. So him having a very magical night last night could be the launching off point for the rest of this dude's career that we put that we have the pleasure of watching as Yankee fans, but it's just like there's not many pitchers that I've seen that is just overpowering like that in a big moment. Sucks because we don't get to see Paul Skeens in this moment because you know the pirates suck. Suck.

SPEAKER_03 19:14

I would kill for that.

SPEAKER_05 19:16

He averaged under a two ERA and had a losing record.

unknown 19:20

I know.

SPEAKER_05 19:20

He's gonna win a Cy Young with a losing record because this is how awesome he was, but his team was ass.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

Yes. Okay, dude, that was some of the craziest shit I've ever seen. He has I'm not gonna lie to you, he made he reminded me of Joe Burrow so much it made me sad. He had like 40 or 50 something games where he would go hit, they would go hitless through seven, then they'd still lose the game. Because you have no one else behind him. It was insane.

SPEAKER_05 19:45

I'm gonna look up his stats real quick just so I can so just so I'm not crazy here. Um baseball reference, that's the way to go. He had an ERA of 1.97, and he had a win-loss record of 10 wins, 10 losses.

unknown 20:02

That's insane.

SPEAKER_05 20:03

Your ERA is under two, man.

SPEAKER_02 20:04

Like I 20 wins.

SPEAKER_05 20:06

Or at le like 17. Like it should be overwhelming, but his team was ass around him and they couldn't help him whatsoever. Like, so like, but there's not a lot of dudes that I've seen pitch like Paul Skeins, like and Schlitler last night was doing exactly that. He was just overpowering dudes and doing it with Moxie, and it's just a very it was a beautiful game to watch last night, especially when I was like having like to have the game on my phone and then watching the the NFL game last night, and I was like trying to like go back and forth. But honestly, the MLB game was winning, obviously, because I was watching my Yankees play. And I was only really watching the Thursday night game because I have to, obviously, because of our pod, but also because I was winning a bet last night, won like a hundred bucks off of two$1 bets, so it was very nice night betting as well. But I just had to, I just had to go off on this MLB stuff because it was just like it's a magical time being able to watch playoff baseball.

SPEAKER_02 20:58

And I just had to-play off baseball is like playoff basketball. This shit is different. It is so different, dude. It's different than anything else. It really is. Basketball, I'm not gonna lie to you. People say baseball's boring. Basketball's boring as fuck. Those a hundred points is a slug fest. I don't give a fuck what anybody says. Real quick, those hundred points get broken up into they scored 25 in the first quarter, 30 in the next quarter. Right. Real quick. This shit is fucking boring. There's a lot of dung.

SPEAKER_05 21:25

And there's a lot of threes, a lot of threes being scored.

SPEAKER_02 21:27

And a whole lot of fucking bricks.

SPEAKER_05 21:28

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

These motherfuckers throwing up bricks. I don't give a fuck what anybody says. Baseball's boring. It is. But a basketball game lasts just fucking long.

SPEAKER_05 21:39

Yeah. You're not wrong.

SPEAKER_02 21:40

And god damn.

SPEAKER_05 21:42

And it feels like there's a lot of shots that don't matter until it finally does matter.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

The fourth quarter is when all those shots are right.

SPEAKER_05 21:48

Yeah. And it in an MLB game, every pitch matters from start to finish.

SPEAKER_02 21:52

If you score in the first inning, that one score can win you the game. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 21:56

Yeah. It's a different sense of urgency in every single thing that you do in a baseball game that is not matched in a football game or in a or in a basketball game. It's just not matched, man. It's just every single moment matters. And again, maybe it's just because of our um attachment to it that just we're just hyper aware of how everything can kind of go to shit soak fast in just one pitch. But like that's just the feeling I have every time I watch them play, especially in the playoffs, man. And again, I'm not going to make it sound like I am a diehard watching every single 162 of the 162 games that the Yankees play. I'm not that. I am not. I will keep track. I will watch box scores. I'll catch a few games throughout the year, but I am not sitting here, like, there's so many other things to eat to watch. There's football going on right now, but there's so many other things that I just can't lock in for 162. But when it's time, when it's time for like fall, we're getting to the point that I am totally locked in and I'm ready to go. And especially with the Yankees now being in the playoffs, like it just it just adds that much of a heightened sense of urgency that I just think that as a fan you just can't match in any other sport, man. Uh other than obviously playoff football and all that. But even still, there's still lols in a way that like in playoff baseball, it's just every single little thing matters so much.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

Yeah.

Game Two Adjustments: Rodón, Rice, Jazz

SPEAKER_05 23:18

It's it's it's it's var. If you don't know the game of baseball, it's hard to explain. But if you if you've ever watched, you've ever played it, it you totally understand it's a very hard feeling to really put into words. But uh, I had to talk about it. Definitely big. Yankees play the Blue Jays here in the next couple, I think they play tomorrow. Um, that'll be a great series. We'll talk about that as we go. And then the other series is that you have the Cubs and Brewers playing each other on the um NL side, and you also have the Dodgers and Phillies playing each other on the NL side. That's gonna be a very good series. Um, but then you have the Yankees, Blue Jays, and then on the other side of the AL, you have the Tigers, Mariners. So um a lot of good baseball that's gonna be going on here the next couple weeks. So definitely a lot to get um if you just now jo like figuring out what baseball is, go watch a game and see how it goes, especially in playoff baseball.

SPEAKER_02 24:12

If you want to watch a playoff game, it'd make you fall in love with the sport. Yeah, it's few There's very few sports that I can watch do it. And they're playing multiple games, yeah. But it the pressure of the game feels so heavy. So in playoff basketball, I'm like I I feel like they walk for court, like oh, we've got another game. In baseball, they're like, damn, we just lost. It is fu it is.

SPEAKER_05 24:34

Because things change so much from game to game.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

There is a momentum in baseball is so important, yeah. In a way that in basketball it's not as important because somebody can get hot that night.

SPEAKER_05 24:46

Literally, in game one, like the game-winning play, really. I think when I think about it, was a 12-pitch walk that one of the Boston players managed to pull out. He managed to have 12-pitch walk, and that Luke Weaver totally like disintegrated after that because it was such a bad outing.

SPEAKER_00 25:03

It hurts pride, man.

SPEAKER_05 25:04

Like, it's just like one of those things, and then things can turn on a dime because of like something that seems so small and doesn't seem like it matters that much. But like little things like that can be the all the difference, and like you said, momentum is a huge deal. And like I said, like when you when that game two, you can tell that Boston went for it that night. Like they said, like, hey, if we're gonna win this series, we have to win it now because if it goes to tomorrow, we really don't have a chance. And they went for it on game, like the night of game two, and they couldn't figure it out, and then game three was like a continuation where it just felt like all the momentum was on the Yankees side, and it kind of worked out that way. And then you had a very special night by a very young pitcher where like it could be the launching point of his career. So it was it was a beautiful night watching baseball last night. And uh it if you don't know, get hip because man, it's very awesome to watch. It really is. Alright, getting off of baseball, let's go ahead and get on to college football, kind of talk about those games that are coming up, and then we'll end it all off with having our NFL games talk about those, give our picks.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

And Minnesota get to come home. They like playing overseas, I guess. They just drove an hour and a half to go to London. I think it's a plane ride. Why? Ireland and London are connect and England are connected.

SPEAKER_05 26:21

Uh-huh. There's no way they had a bus ride. It was a flight. I have no doubt about that.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

It's like a three and a half hour drive.

SPEAKER_05 26:27

I know, but they're not going to do that. I can tell you that right now. Alright, so let's get to the coffee.

SPEAKER_02 26:33

The food they're probably eating is fucking horrendous.

SPEAKER_05 26:36

I don't know, man. It's all again, if they're treating them right, it should be all good.

SPEAKER_02 26:40

But you know. If I was to be if I was an NFL player and motherfuckers served me beans for breakfast, I'd air a motherfucking place out. It's not like Kansas City and uh my bad. It was Packers, Eagles there in Brazil. They probably got some good ass food.

SPEAKER_05 26:51

Oh, yeah, but they were worried about getting robbed there.

SPEAKER_02 26:54

That's fine.

SPEAKER_05 26:54

At least in England, you can walk around without actually no, you can't even say that. Because the backup quarterback, Skylar Thompson for Pittsburgh Steelers, got got robbed in in uh that was in Ireland. So like it can happen. It can, but it's just like again, Brazil is known for gang guys. He's our third string, fourth string.

SPEAKER_02 27:17

Oh, I was about to say that's your backup. No. You're so better than the rounds with a fucking Dylan Gabriel starting. Real quick, it's to spite Shador. I don't give a fuck what anybody tells me right now. This is spite. You said it, you were like, I don't think the coaching staff would risk their jobs. They're risking their fucking jobs right now. I don't know. Joe. Dylan Gabriel.

SPEAKER_05 27:39

I know he's not all that great. You're telling me Shador's worse? I I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 27:46

I'm not gonna cap with you. Anything you say at this point is just straight hating.

SPEAKER_05 27:50

Again, him acting like a m- him miming during a press conference, during a ha during a talking with the media probably isn't the best way to go either.

SPEAKER_02 27:57

I'm not saying he's not a dick.

Game Three Masterclass: Cam Schlittler Dominates

SPEAKER_05 27:59

He's not helping his own case. No. You know what's crazy? Even when he did it, even though I know he was being an asshole, he was still charming as hell. Like, but that's the thing. Like, you could just literally give give everybody nothing and still come off as being charming and kind of being a good teammate. But whatever, whoever's telling him to do the things that he's doing, it's not helping. And I think for so long that he made good decisions. Like he was like when he was being the main quarterback with his dad for the most part, he made good decisions and like with the media and all that.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

Best thing you have to. With his dad, there's probably no option.

SPEAKER_05 28:32

Best thing, but you like I but now there's no way keeping him on a leash. I guess he doesn't have he doesn't have to worry about his father at the same time. But again, he still does have to worry about it. Because his dad will just as easily say something in the media as well, but I just I don't know. It's it came off as real childish when he did that, because I'm just like, dude, you can just just you know what you gotta do. I just think he needs to realize his his job is backup quarterback, and to a certain extent, in the NFL, they don't want their backup quarterback to be famous. They want their backup quarterbacks to be good vibes guys, like good vibe guy. Like that's what they want you to be. And especially when, here's the thing Don't you think it's something that they benched Joe Flacco, but they put made him the second string guy. They're still leaving Shador as the third string. They are not putting Joe Flacco on the back burner. So, like, if he can't even get above Joe Flacco, the guy they just benched, to be a just be the backup to Dylan Gabriel, like what are we doing?

SPEAKER_02 29:29

What I'm saying is that a fucking spite, dude. Tell me it's not.

SPEAKER_05 29:34

I think there's more, I think it's more than that.

unknown 29:36

I think you're lying.

SPEAKER_05 29:37

Again, I can we really trust it because these coaches are kind of awful anyway. I don't know how Kevin Stefanski has kept his job for as long as he has, especially when they let go of Baker and let him walk. Again, that probably wasn't a Stefansky thing. That was probably more ownership, just wanting to get to get Deshaun Watson in there to be the guy because they've they felt like they want they were in line to get a superstar. But like, ever since that, like you've Seen Baker go and do great things in Tampa and like Kevin Stefansky and their GM is still there. So I just don't know how they have the job security that they have to still be there.

SPEAKER_02 30:10

I don't know how Stefansky still has a job.

SPEAKER_05 30:11

Or the GM. Like it's just I don't I don't know. It doesn't make any sense to me. But I just don't Shador is not helping his own situation either. Shador is not being a model citizen. He's kind of doing some things where I'm like, man, I wish you didn't.

SPEAKER_02 30:28

Fucking mild. You know that. I know that.

SPEAKER_05 30:32

I I don't think I again watching them in college, I don't think so either. I don't think that was that's a foregone guarantee.

SPEAKER_02 30:40

You're right, Dylan Gabriel did beat Ohio State.

SPEAKER_05 30:43

I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking you bastard. You're an ass. You're an ass. You're an ass. Okay. Uh college football. Let's go get to that first. Get to the game. 124.

SPEAKER_00 31:01

Crazy.

SPEAKER_05 31:05

Start with the games tomorrow. Yeah, that's what I get for Jason not being on for a minute. Now he feels like he needs to pop off. Well, that was a good one.

SPEAKER_02 31:13

That's like a little dig.

SPEAKER_05 31:14

Yeah, for no reason.

SPEAKER_02 31:15

Oh, quick one, too.

SPEAKER_05 31:17

First game. We're just gonna go in order. This is because of how it has it. So start with the noon games, then go kind of down the slate. Kentucky at Georgia. Georgia should win that game pretty easily. Georgia should win. Like, Kentucky's bad. They're very bad. Georgia coming off their loss to Alabama, so I think they'll come with a bad attitude, be ready to win that game. Not much else to say there. Michigan going to Wisconsin, no, sorry, Wisconsin going to Michigan. Michigan's a 17 and a half point favorite I did bet on Wisconsin there because I'm just like, ah, can you really trust Michigan to win a game?

SPEAKER_02 31:46

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05 31:48

Again, Wisconsin has been bad. I just don't think Michigan has the team from top to bottom to like 14, I could see. 14, yeah, but like 17.5. We're talking almost three scores here. I'll take that. I'll just make a good bet. It's a weird, it's a weird one. Um, Michigan should win the game, but it's just by 17 and a half is kind of crazy to me. Illinois coming off of their win, their home win against USC, they're going to play Purdue. Illinois should win that game, but it's just when here's the thing. Illinois had such a bad game against Indiana, and then comes out has a lot better game against USC and wins that game. So against the Purdue team, they should easily beat. I just think that if they kind of lose their focus at all, they are not so supremely more talented that they wouldn't be able to lose this game if they don't bring their A-game. So come out, play well, they should be able to beat Purdue. Um, Clemson, North Carolina, I'm only mentioning this because you have Dabo on one side and Bill Belichick on the other. Very funny, very funny dichotomy of two guys that look like they're on the last ropes. Dabo, for even though he's a national championship winning coach, that just kind of like, you know, is having a very bad year as of right now.

Small Ball, Not Long Ball

SPEAKER_02 32:59

Two signed national championship?

SPEAKER_05 33:00

Yeah, two. Yeah, two time. Yeah. That's crazy. Um, and then his team not looking as good as they probably should be, with you know, him not changing with the times. And then you have Bill Belichick on the other side coming back from the NFL, feeling like, oh, he can bring his NFL coaching style there. Didn't start great, but it's starting to play better. What kind of it won't happen. Clemson should probably square up on this North Carolina team and beat them by 20. Because this is the team that Clemson usually beats. It's the ones that show some fight, the ones that over the last couple years they've been losing to.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

They're either a little bit better or as good as them. Right. Is the team they lose to.

SPEAKER_05 33:39

But again, imagine if Bill Belichick can get this feather in his cap and win this game against Dabo and Clemson.

SPEAKER_02 33:45

He'd keep his job.

SPEAKER_05 33:46

Be absolutely hilarious. And again, I don't think they're gonna get rid of him because who else in North Carolina have? If they didn't fire him before the season started with all of his 24-year-old girlfriend shit, I just don't think they're gonna fire him unless it goes absolutely to the can and like everything goes badly, but I just don't think it's gonna happen.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

That's still crazy. You're dating a girl that's barely old that's maybe slightly older than some of your players.

SPEAKER_05 34:07

He has he had a in the first game of the season, one of his backup quarterbacks is her age. That's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

Wild. Um is that nigga still in college? Get the fuck out of here. What are we doing?

SPEAKER_06 34:20

He's had he's had a lot of injuries.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

We're done. Did a lot of movement. So good.

SPEAKER_05 34:34

Oh, that game was awesome. Um, I I just think that this is one of those things because I think after the game, like the Monday after, James Franklin comes out with a tweet and says, Hey guys, we have to make sure that we um that we are all standing together to try to go out there and be one and no on the season, you know, because it gets it's a restart after a loss. But that loss that you have still counts. So it's just a weird tweet to come out after you they have.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

I'm sorry. I don't know how you're gonna have a coach that does everything but win the big game.

SPEAKER_05 35:07

Yeah. With everything that they have, they have they have the recruiting. They're uh literally a top ten recruiting place all every year.

SPEAKER_02 35:14

Stars to the NFL every year to never win the big game.

SPEAKER_05 35:18

They they paid big money to bring back their running backs, to bring back Drew Aller, and to they in the transport portal, they brought in new wide receivers, and none of it has worked. Their offense is still struggling. Um, Drew Aller has not changed as a quarterback from year to year. He's been playing this his third year starting now, and he looks no different from when he first started there. And that their defense is good, their defense is awesome, but they don't have an Abdul Cartier anymore. They don't have that crazy good pass rusher to be the equalizer for your team if your offense isn't gonna bring it.

SPEAKER_02 35:48

Which is what they always have.

SPEAKER_05 35:49

And which is what they've always had, and they don't have that this year.

SPEAKER_02 35:51

And but it again, he how long has James Franklin been there? 20 years.

SPEAKER_05 35:57

Not 20, but he's been there over 10.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

He's I you sure he hasn't been there 20?

SPEAKER_05 36:03

No, because he was there in 20. Now I gotta check. James. How long has James Franklin been the coach? James Franklin. Pennepenn State. Um, he's been there over 10 years. He started in 2014. 12 years.

SPEAKER_02 36:29

Okay, but again, 12 years of nothing. You've never won the Big Ten.

SPEAKER_05 36:34

He has, yes, he has. That but that was the year that they decided to throw in Ohio State in the playoff over them.

SPEAKER_02 36:40

Oh yeah. So what did it matter? Exactly. Okay, so you've done nothing. Besides you've you've won the Big Ten once. Once, yes.

SPEAKER_05 36:51

But and he's only beat Ohio State once.

SPEAKER_02 36:53

So the other two teams who In the Rain.

SPEAKER_05 36:55

Very weird game.

SPEAKER_02 36:57

Oh, the game where like, hey, the we run the ball really fucking well.

SPEAKER_05 37:01

Literally came down to a blocked field goal. That's what that's how they won that game.

SPEAKER_02 37:04

Oh, you've done nothing. Michigan State's done that. That's not impressive. Right, yes. So you've been third.

SPEAKER_05 37:13

Yeah. And now that Oregon has come in, that's a that's third. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:16

And there's several years where you weren't even third. You were worse than Michigan State. And he still has a job.

Stadium Energy and Yankee Faith

SPEAKER_05 37:24

He does. But that's the thing. He has kind of like the Pittsburgh syndrome where he'll win you 10 games a year, but he'll never win you that 11 and 12th against Ohio State, against Michigan, and against the bigger teams. Oregon now, because heck, Oregon coming in the last week, like that was the opportunity everybody was looking for for Penn State. You get to play them at night, you're playing them in your home stadium, it's a whiteout, everything going your way. Oregon has a young quarterback. Their team isn't necessarily as good as it has been in last year's. Again, if it was last year's team, I totally understand Oregon, um, Penn State losing that game. But like, this is a newer team. Oregon, even as explosive as they are, they're not as explosive as last year. And they just have a lot of young players that are coming into a hostile environment. And for three quarters, Penn State didn't do shit offensively. And again, they'll say that, oh, Penn State lit it, like they lit up in the end, they scored those 14 points to tie it up to go to overtime, but it's too little, too fucking late. And I just think that the the mainstays on that team that has kind of made them underachieve has been James Franklin, and for the last couple years been Drew Aller. And neither of those two dudes have changed, and it's not gotten any better. And if James Franklin's not going to be the equalizer and Drew Aller isn't, and he's not going to get better, and those wide receivers you keep bringing in still keep playing like shit with your offense, and then they leave your team to go play somewhere else. I think the wide receivers they had last year was Lambert, and then he's playing for Auburn now. He's like one of the leaders in receiving yards, and there's another guy that they have, and he transferred out, and he's playing well where he's at. And so literally, the even the guys that you bring in, they're just like in the offense that they have, it's just not doesn't fit. And with all that being the case, it's just they keep losing these big games, man. And and here's my thing. I would love for Penn State to keep James Franklin. Because at the end of the day, do I ever think James Franklin's gonna be the guy to win the big one? He's not. So that's one lesson I have to worry about because as long as uh James Franklin there, he's always gonna shit down his leg in the big moment. So I'll be more than happy if they keep him. But if they want to change their legacy, and like, again, here's the op here's the thing. If you get rid of him, you have to get a better coach than him, and that's where you take a chance because James Franklin is a top 5, 10, 15 coach in all of college football. But the problem is you're dealing with coaches that are better than him. Schools that are better than them. And I'm just like, that's that stuff's not gonna change. So if you're not gonna change your coach, you're not gonna take that chance, then you're just gonna be perpetually you're gonna win a lot of, you're gonna win 10 games, you're gonna get to the playoff, and then when you're gonna go face a team, you should that um that you should have at least have an opportunity to be on the same terms with, and they'll get they'll lose every time. I don't know. I don't know. Um, but they should beat UCLA with no issue. UCLA has been absolute garbage ass, and uh I I just it's a it's a good wake-up game because Penn State will have the opportunity to go beat up on a team that isn't even close to as good as them. And they'll have the name UCLA, which will make people feel better about it, even though that it's a garbage, garbage football team right now. Um, Texas plays Florida. You know what's crazy? This game, if Texas and Florida would have played how they everybody thought they were going to to become into the season, this game would be so much bigger than it actually ends up being right now because of how bad Archer's been in that offense for Texas. And for Florida, their offense has been so awful with DJ Lagway and he's regressed that this game isn't nearly the game that it that it was thought to be when the season started. And I don't know, man. It's like the SEC definitely wants Texas to win this game more. Because Florida has not been good. I think they already have two or three losses on the year. Um, they already have they have three losses on the year already. So, like, I think if the SEC had their choice over who should who they want to win this game, just for when it comes to um national narrative, Texas will be the one because people can still have some hope that Arch can become a better quarterback and that offense can play better.

College Football Slate and Stakes

SPEAKER_02 41:38

Real quick, bro, you've been saying it. I thought you were just hating at first. I've been watching him play. I'm like, his mechanics aren't good. Like, this overall mechanics is a quarterback, they're bad. Like, really bad. And just because I've been Michigan State didn't play play last week, so I jack shit to do. So I was like, I'm tune in the Texas game. I was watching him beat up on this school, and I'm like, Sam Houston.

SPEAKER_05 42:02

It was better. The offense did play better.

SPEAKER_02 42:04

It was. Oh, again, this is Sam Houston. But it's Sam Houston. This is a conference USA school. Yeah. This is like worse than the Sun Belt.

SPEAKER_05 42:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:12

Okay. And I'm watching them play, and I'm like, yeah, you look great. I'm like, but your throws don't look good. There's quarterbacks who are nowhere near as highly as touted as you are. I throw a better ball than you do. I can fit the ball in better spots than you can. You're athletic, you are, but you're nothing special. And I was sitting here looking at him like, you're not that fucking good. And my brain, I I start like really thinking about like you played nobody's in Louisiana. I was like, you played fucking nobodies. I was like, so what is special about you? I don't get it. I started being really, really confused. So I started like I started deep diving. I went back to like his rankings and shit. I pulled up his fucking high school schedule, and I'm looking at him like, there's not a single motherfucker. I was like, you played no one.

SPEAKER_05 43:03

He never did any of the high, they never went to any of the camps. None of it.

SPEAKER_02 43:08

That was the other thing. Is like really started looking at he didn't go to anything. And I'm like, top quarterbacks go to these camps.

SPEAKER_05 43:13

Improve themselves against uh dudes of the same caliber.

SPEAKER_02 43:17

Like, there's certain areas. If you play in Texas, you're playing dudes of your caliber already. They may not all be five stars, but you're playing a bunch of three stars. You're playing two-star guys.

SPEAKER_05 43:26

You're playing cosplay players.

SPEAKER_02 43:27

Yes. Yes. Right? And then in California, you're playing other top quarterbacks.

SPEAKER_05 43:31

They're going across the country and facing, because if you're a big enough school, like you're going, they're taking plane rides all across the country to go play these games.

SPEAKER_02 43:39

You play in Louisiana. I don't know, I don't remember what fucking school you went to. I don't know who the fuck you played.

SPEAKER_05 43:44

Apparently, the two biggest players that they that that school that he went to has produced was Odell Beckham and him. So it doesn't, it wasn't like he went to a school that like produces college football players on a yearly basis. That's like a 15-year difference. And I'm sitting there like, like, it's just again, it looked better against Sam Houston. But here's the problem. Florida, as bad as they are, their defense is legit. So like can can he face his demons of playing a good defense that has dudes that can cover those wide receivers that they have? Because guess what? Their wide receivers don't get a lot of separation against like dudes of similar, like a similar talent levels. Like they don't really have a lot of speed on that team. So can he read a defense that is trying to trying to trick him, make the right play, and then once he decides to throw it, throw it to the right person without throwing it into the dirt or overthrowing it and not having good mechanics? Like all those things he now has to prove that he can do against a team with at least Florida offensively is awful. And I think with Texas defense, I don't think Florida will actually score enough points to have any chance of winning this game. But can Arch make at least a good enough step forward to be able to at least have a functioning offense against a good Florida defense to go out and go ahead and win the game how they probably should. That is what I'll be looking for in this game. And let alone if they fucking lose, I'll be ready to shit all over Texas and Arch Manning. I'll be ready to do it because Florida is not a great football team. They have talented dudes, but they are not a like a team where I'm like, oh, they're one and three, but get ready. They're ready to turn it on and become a much better team. It's just not happening. So if Texas loses that game, I'll be ready to shit all over them because it's it's a game they should not lose, especially with that defense. Texas defense, by the way, like their defense is totally legit. It's very, very, very, very good. It's not Ohio State's defense. Because Ohio State's defense is something else this year. Like they're an NFL team playing a college football schedule right now. I think that was like one of my main things about last week when I last pod when I was doing it. I think Ryan Day and Ohio State is playing like an NFL team. Like, hey, we're just gonna we're just gonna choke you out defensively, and we'll not we're not gonna push it offensively if we don't have to. Um it's very NFL like the way they're playing. But Texas's defense is awesome. Um, next game, Vandy, number 16. The idea that Vanderbilt is ranked 16th in all of college football.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

Crazy. Crazy world we live in.

Penn State Ceiling and Franklin Debate

SPEAKER_05 46:15

Insane, insane world. Um, they are going to number 10 Alabama and playing that game. They're a 12-point underdogs. I did bet on that, so I was like, I'm hoping that the game stays relatively close. And especially after last year, where Vanderbilt and Alabama came to Vanderbilt's house and they Alabama got shit on and got totally beat. Like it was not a fluke, it was not a fluke play. It was Vandy from start to finish in that game last year, ran the football down their throat and just beat them from start to finish. And you're coming into this year where Vandy is like everybody knows what Vandy is. I think Vandy is undefeated on the year so far. Um, their quarterback, why am I forgetting that guy's name? Um, it's um Diego Pavia. He's making a lot of plays. They're they're running their offense and they're playing a lot of good football. And Alabama coming off the game against Georgia, same thing as last year. Alabama beat Georgia last year, and then the game after went to go play Vandy and let their guard down, and Vandy pounced on him and totally beat them up. But now coming from this year, Bama goes to Georgia and beats them. Cool, fine, great. But I don't think Vandy will have the plus of the Alabama players not respecting Vanderbilt based on how last year went. So now you don't have any sort of like there is no pouncing from like behind the bushes without them knowing you're coming. So if if Vandy's gonna win this game, they're gonna have to play a ball control offense, and I think they're gonna have to run the football and just keep going because I just think that the biggest difference for Bama from last year to this year, even though I don't I don't really think Bama is like one of the best teams in college football, because again, they have very talented dudes, but I just like do I believe in them against teams of similar caliber to go out there and win football games? I am not totally convinced, but even with their win against Georgia, but again, they won last week, so I have to give them that credit. But Vanderbilt doesn't necessarily have all the same talent. So Vanderbilt has to out-tuff them when it comes to the run game. They have to have a lot of ball control because if Bama gets the ball and has the opportunity to go score, they have a quarterback that I think in Ty Simpson that'll be able to keep the offense moving, be able to make the plays possible, and I think he'll be able to just march the team down the field. So I think what Vandy needs to do is they need to hold on to the football, have the time of possession battle, be purely on their side. And then two, go score as much as you possibly can, and then just try to play some good defense, and hopefully Bama doesn't necessarily have consistency because on Bama's side, they can throw the football quite well, but they can't run the football to save their lives. So if hopefully you can make some plays against them with their offensive line not being as strong, and I think that could be this the recipe for Vandy to potentially win the game, but all I'm hoping for is them to keep it close. But I do think it'll be a very fun game to watch. But I just think that if I had to make a choice, I think Bama probably wins that game. Um it might I think it'll be close, but I think they do have winning the game. Because again, I don't think they can uh they're gonna be very aware of who's coming to town. Yeah. Um Boise State going to number 21 Notre Dame. Notre Dame should win this game. They're a much more talented team. Boise State is nowhere near the same team without um oh no, Ashton Genty as their running back. I think without him, I think they've lost a lot of what their offensive identity was. And I just think that Notre Dame as an overall squad is just a much better football team. And I just don't think, even with Notre Dame having a defense that isn't as strong, I just don't think Boise State's gonna be the team to take advantage of such defense. So I'm gonna go ahead and say Notre Dame probably wins that game pretty convincingly. Heck, Notre Dame's a 21 and a half point favorite. So Vegas truly thinks that there is a big difference between the football teams that they are. So, and I I would probably lean towards Notre Dame as well. Probably I don't know, covering that score is probably a lot, but I think they'll be very close, if not though, they have an opportunity to get there. Uh, I also don't think Boise State really has the team to really stop Notre Dame. Um, next game I want to talk about was Washington, Maryland. Washington coming off of their loss to Ohio State, going to Maryland, going flying all the way across the country, and to go play Maryland. And again, I think Washington is a better team than Maryland is, but I think Maryland is a team that has some offensive firepower. And I think that if Washington does not bring their A-game, especially with some of the defensive guys that they had missing last game and then coming into this game as well, I think Maryland can be a team that can uh bite them and make like potentially win that game if Washington doesn't play their A game. Huh?

SPEAKER_02 51:13

I don't think Washington is that much better of a team than Maryland.

SPEAKER_05 51:16

Oh no, no, no, no, no. I think, okay, Ohio State made them look ordinary. But I think that quarterback, wide receiver, running back trio that they have is a very explosive, um, very three very explosive pillars to an offense that they that they have. And I just don't think Maryland has the guys to stop Washington from doing that. But the question is, can Washington stop defensively stop Maryland? Because I think Maryland actually does have some explosive guys on offense. And I think this that the line is 51 and a half, so I think that points will actually be a will be coming in that game. So Washington should definitely be on offset alert against Maryland for sure. Um, next game. There's not that many more. Michigan State, Nebraska. Nebraska coming off a bye.

SPEAKER_02 52:03

We're gonna lose this game. Michigan State coming off a bye.

SPEAKER_05 52:06

Michigan State's coming off a bye. You're gonna have your best, you're gonna be your healthiest you're gonna be, at least at this point in the season, coming off the bye. And Nebraska's a 12-point favorite.

SPEAKER_02 52:17

We're gonna lose this game.

SPEAKER_05 52:19

Here's my thing. I don't think Nebraska's consistent enough for you to truly believe that. I I I again you can have your vibes, again, but I think on the field, I think Michigan State definitely has the opportunity to be a real player in this game. And especially with Dylan Royola not being consistent enough as a quarterback, I just don't think you can necessarily just like automatically throw yourselves out of the ring and be like, hey, we're not gonna, we have no chance of winning this game.

SPEAKER_02 52:46

I'm not saying we have no chance, I just don't believe we win this game, specifically because our defense is horrendous.

SPEAKER_05 52:52

Yeah, but I don't think Nebraska's defense is all that great either. I think it goes both ways. So I think it comes down to because you know what I think Michigan State has that Nebraska does not? I think you have a Nick Marsh.

SPEAKER_00 53:09

I think you're right.

SPEAKER_05 53:10

And as long as your quarterback's name.

SPEAKER_00 53:15

Uh Aiden Giles.

SPEAKER_05 53:16

As long as Aiden Childs comes out and plays like he did last time, I think how he played against USE, he played winning football. Like he did not turn the football over. He was making the plays when necessary. Like, if he can do all those things, and if your defense can just get a couple stops against Nebraska, I think it could be truly in this game, if not have a chance to actually win it. And again, I made a bet on Michigan State to keep the game close, obviously, with 12 and a half points.

SPEAKER_02 53:42

I think they'll keep it close.

SPEAKER_05 53:43

I just don't have to think they'll win it. Again, I when it comes to my money, that's all I'm asking for, but I would surely love if your Spartans can kind of you know get out, go ahead and pull off that win because it's just more fun that way. All I can do is hope, man. All I can do is hope. Um, next game. Let's see here. Texas Tech going to Houston. Houston's a weird place to play. They're a team offensively that has some real firepower. Texas Tech has proven to be a very good team, but it's just on the road, a little bit more of a hostile environment. And I do think they have no they're they're gonna have their starter. But Texas Tech is a very, if they can keep winning games, I think they have the talent on that roster to like go out there and like really make some noise in the playoff. But it's just they have to keep winning these football games and not lose a stupid one that they shouldn't lose. But again, Houston is a is a little bit of a weird dog to where they have a chance to really bite you if you don't go out there and like play your play a good game. Miami, oh, Minnesota, Minnesota going to Ohio State. They'll be playing at 7 o'clock tomorrow. Be a night game. I think Ohio State should win this game pretty pretty handily. I hate you so fucking much. I know. I'm not gonna go too long on it. I promise.

SPEAKER_02 54:59

No, no, it's not that. It's the fact of that that you're gonna dog walk the fuck out of them, right? But it's a Big Ten team. Yeah, your schedule's easy as fuck because they're all Big Ten teams. You know how upsetting it is? Like, genuinely, it's a fucking setting knowing that these are big ten teams.

SPEAKER_05 55:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:18

There's nothing wrong with your schedule. It's a fucking cakewalk, though. And it makes me fucking angry that it's such a fucking cakewalk. But you're just better than the other Big Ten teams.

SPEAKER_05 55:31

Yeah. Again, that that doesn't all that doesn't always work out because we were better than Michigan last year and we lost to them.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

Again, that's we shot ourselves in the that's a mental block. That's all that is. That's a mental block. That's different. But you're just that much better than the rest of us.

SPEAKER_05 55:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 55:49

It's frustrating.

SPEAKER_05 55:51

Look, man, uh uh this is where I'll I'll have my little my couple hot takes here. I think Ohio State's defense might be better this year than it even was last year.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

Dude, I think you probably have the best defense.

SPEAKER_05 56:04

Oh no, no, no. Our defense is easily the best in all of college football right now.

SPEAKER_02 56:08

No, this isn't the best Ohio State defense we've ever seen.

SPEAKER_05 56:11

But I think by the end of this season, it might be able to put in the claim of being probably one of the best Ohio State defense we've had in a long time.

SPEAKER_02 56:19

89 total yards. That boy Jeff Okuda. My bad. 89 was too high. It was 47 total motherfucking yards. 47?

SPEAKER_05 56:30

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 56:31

Joe.

SPEAKER_05 56:32

Again, I'm not saying any we don't have I I'm saying from as a team defense, do you know how many touchdowns we've we've given up in the red zone?

SPEAKER_02 56:41

Mm-hmm. Good. You know how many touchdowns Jeff Okuda gave up? That's one dude. Real quick. That's one fuck out of my phone. Yeah, for sure. Y'all motherfuckers had ten people drafted in the top 15. Not ten. Yes, it was. My bad. It was ten people in the first round.

SPEAKER_05 56:58

Not ten in the first round. Yes, it was. It was Bosa. It was Zeke. It was Okuda. Yeah? You had more. And that was it. No. I'm guessing that you're talking about the 2015th. Because Okuda was after that. Okuda was there. He was there in the 2019 year.

SPEAKER_02 57:19

Was that 2019?

SPEAKER_05 57:20

Yeah. My bad. Okuda was later.

SPEAKER_02 57:22

That year was it was Eli Apple.

SPEAKER_05 57:26

Eli Apple.

SPEAKER_02 57:28

And there was one more dude.

Texas, Florida, and Arch Reality Check

SPEAKER_05 57:30

What is that, 2015 draft? Yes. Um 2015 and FL Draft. 2015 NFL draft. Um that's not it. That's not 2015. 14. Nope, it's 2016. 2016 draft. Joey Bosa was number three pick. Zeke was number four. Um Eli Apple was number ten. Um Taylor Decker was 16. Darren Lee was 20. And that was it. That's five. Five in the first round. I think Ohio State may be able to put out that many as well. Right, this year.

SPEAKER_02 58:33

He'll put out more.

SPEAKER_05 58:34

Huh?

SPEAKER_00 58:34

He'll put out more on defense.

SPEAKER_05 58:36

Oh yeah. I think Caleb Downs is going to be a first-round pick. He'll be a top five pick. Um Caleb Downs. Um, Arvel Reese will be a first-round pick. No, like easy. He's like a literally both our linebackers. Arvell Reese and Sonny Styles will both be first round picks. They're absolute monsters.

SPEAKER_00 58:54

Um God, I pray for Sonny Styles. I really hope he becomes a Bangle. Because we're about to have a high fucking first.

SPEAKER_05 59:01

And you know what's crazy? Is that Arvell Reese actually might be better? Because he is like, he has the speed. I think he has a little bit of a different gear than Sonny Styles does. And I think they're literally carbon copies, so they're both 6'4. They're both like 220. Like they're carbon copies as linebackers to each other. But I think Arvell Reese has a little bit of a twitch to him that I think Sonny doesn't have, even though I think probably see straight running speed, they probably are pretty close to each other. But so that's three for sure. And then Carnell Tate's gonna be probably a first round pick. Um, because it's just an Ohio State wide receiver. It's pretty much a foregone conclusion as long as he does his thing, which Carnell Tate for sure will.

SPEAKER_02 59:43

You know, it won't be a first round pick, Brennan is.

SPEAKER_05 59:46

Well, obviously not. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 59:48

That makes me so angry.

SPEAKER_05 59:49

Yes. But I back to Ohio. So I think Ohio State's defense might go down as be one of the best defenses of all time if they keep going at this rate. And And um I don't really go I don't really go too much farther because I just want to kind of keep going. But Ohio State should beat Minnesota pretty handily. Ohio State's a 24-point favorite in this game. I think it'll be pretty close to that, if not more. And I think the only question about people saying about Ohio State is will Ryan Day let the offense open up a little bit more and let Julian Sand throw?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:21

That's the one thing I've been noticing. He's not like um let him loose.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:27

No, they're not.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

In a way, I feel like this is gonna be how you're gonna lose a game. You're not let letting him cut loose. The game you played against um was it?

SPEAKER_05 1:00:40

What this year? Yeah. Washington?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:42

No before that.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:44

Grambling?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:45

Yeah. You should let him fucking loose playing Grambling.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:48

We did. We went we scored 70 points.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:50

That wasn't enough.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:51

Are you talking about Ohio?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:53

Yes, it was Ohio.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:55

But here's the thing. I this is where this is where I came to where I think Ryan Day is running it like a NFL, running Ohio, so like an NFL team, okay? Obviously the stronger side of the football is the defense. The defense is playing at an all-star level, all-time level potentially, and I think Ryan Day knows that. And he has a young quarterback in Julian Saiyan that's making his fourth-fifth start. And he's like, you know what? Because here's the thing. Everything that he's asked Julian Saiyan to do, he has passed with flying colors. He has. Everybody says he doesn't throw deep balls. He's thrown nine deep balls this year. Do you know what his uh hit rate on those are? He's nine for nine. Has not missed. He has an almost 80% completion percentage, which is if not the highest, second highest in all of college football. Like everything he's asked Julian Sand to do, he has done it with flying colors. But I just think that Ryan Day has looked at every game and he's like, you know what? Our defense is going to be able to suffocate the fuck out of them. And you know what we're gonna do? We are not going to put the ball in harm's way. We are going to give Julian Sand a little bit more every game to put it on his plate. You're gonna pass those tests, and we're gonna let our defense do their job. And we're playing very slow right now. Guess because you know why? Is because Ryan Day knows we have to do this for 15, 16 games. If you are gonna go complete your ultimate goal of winning a national championship, you're gonna be playing that many games. And so, guess what you have to do? Play complimentary football, let your defense have some rest. Because once you start playing fast, your defense doesn't have as much time to rest. And the I think Al Hasi defense is like in the hundreds of how many snaps that they have played as a total defense. And I think that's on purpose, is because Ryan Day knows let's let our defense be the superstars here. And if we're gonna play a little slower, and if that means we score less points, go for sure. We're not gonna sit here and try to score empty calories and go try to score 50 points every week. But I do I do give you credit when you say that like you don't want the one time you need to go score 50 to be the first time. Yes, and that's so that is one thing I do I will give you credit for.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:06

You're gonna get to a team in the playoffs where it's like, hey, you got this eventually your defense is gonna be overwhelm by a team that has a good offense.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:12

There's only one team that I look at and can act and truly feel that way about, and it's Oregon.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:17

You're gonna have to play them in a big time championship. Yeah, you're not wrong. And you do you want that to be the time, like, hey, we have to you have to slow down.

Upsets, Lines, and Matchup Edges

SPEAKER_05 1:03:23

And then Julian Sand had not done it before. No, I don't five mistakes. I would not like for him to that to be his first time, but I do think Ryan Day is gonna give him piece by piece. They're gonna let him grow. And if he doesn't, he's grown every week, but will he be ready for that moment when he has to go out and throw the football 50, 40 times? Because I don't think he's thrown the football for more than 25 times this season. So that I do understand as a potential issue, but I also think that there's not many offense that I s offenses that I see putting up real numbers against our defense. I just don't see it. Um, but but but no, what you're saying is right, but I just think that Ryan Day knows what he's looking for. He has been to the mountaintop, he knows where hitting your peak at the right time is the best way to go, coming off of last year. And I just think as long as he can get Julian Sand to that point where he's ready to play his best football when it's when it's when it's needed most, I think that's what Ryan Day is looking for, and I will I have that faith in him now. I've always had that, I've always really believed in Ryan Day. Even with him losing to Michigan, I never lost faith that Ryan Day is that type, it is like one of the best coaches in college football. And yeah, I have faith that he will have Julian Sand ready when the time comes.

unknown 1:04:36

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:37

But no, but I but what but what you're saying is like something I've heard from a lot of Ohio State fans.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:41

No, I get it.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:42

No, I totally understand.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:43

Something I want to ask you about. I heard it from my friend. He said the same shit. He's like, I wish he would they would kind of just let him lose during bigger games.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:50

Uh no, I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:52

They just really have to.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:53

I just think as long as the defense keeps showing that they're gonna be unstoppable, I think Ryan Day is gonna keep not wanting to like help out the other team. Which I think is perfectly reasonable.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:04

Yeah, I agree, but again, I think you gotta let him lose at some point.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:07

No, and I I think it will happen. I just think that, you know, I here's the thing, what makes me feel like even if it is one time where you have to do it, he has Julian Sand has so many superstars around him, and I here's the thing I do think Julian Sand knows he has not have to, he knows he doesn't have to put the whole game on his shoulders because of the dudes that he has around him to throw to. Get the ball to your guys and let them make plays. And I think he's done that. He hasn't pressed, he hasn't tried to go out there and play hero ball. He he knows, guess what? I have Jeremiah Smith over there. I probably should throw him the ball and let him do his work. And I think that's where I think where Julian Sane has shown the most growth where he's like, hey, I'm gonna get it to my dudes and let them make the play. I'm not gonna over I'm not gonna overthink it. But no, what you're saying is perfectly correct. Um, next game, Miami and Florida State, number three versus number 18. Two very good squads. Florida State coming off a loss to they lost to uh Virginia. So it does take a little bit of the wind out of the sails of how big this game could have been if both teams were undefeated coming to this point. I think Miami is a much much better football team offensively, defensively at the lines of scrimmage. But I think Florida State plays a brand of football that could be a problem for Miami because Florida State runs the football so effectively, can they play the time of possession game, play very good football and converting and score points is going to be something that Miami's gonna have to deal with. But I think Miami offensively, I think that Beck has been good, but he has made some mistakes. He's not necessarily played perfect football. And I think that if he has to go out there and like knows he has to go keep scoring points every drive with a Florida State offense that is definitely very explosive with the way they run the football, I think it can lead to some mistakes. And if that happens, can that put Miami in a bad spot? I think, but the way I look at it is if Miami wins this game, I think I'll be very solidified in calling Miami probably a top five team in all of college football. But if they don't win it, I don't think it'll make me feel much worse about what Miami is as a team. Because I do think Miami has their issues, but I just think that they're a very talented football team that's still growing from week to week. But can Carson Beck play a consistent football game against a very good Florida State team is gonna be the question to have to be answered. But I think it's gonna be a very, very fun football game to watch. Um and then last, the only game I want to talk about left is Mississippi State at Texas AM. Do you know there's only like a couple teams that are undefeated against the spread in all of college football this year? And Mississippi State is one of them. They're undefeated against the spread this year. What does that mean? Um, no matter how many points they are listed as a like underdog in, they always play within the points. So if they're a 14-point underdog, they're always getting beat by less than 14 points. Betting miss betting Mississippi State to stay within the number. So if they're 14-point underdogs betting on Mississippi State to stay within that number has worked. It's like they've, if not outright won, they've stayed pretty close to every team they've played this year.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:24

So now the betting then to lose outside that number is probably better now.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:30

It'll be more profitable, probably, if you bet Miami to win by more than 14. No, sorry, not Miami, but T uh Tech AM, yes. But here's my problem with this game. I think Tech SM should win this game. They are a better team from top to bottom, but I think Tech SM's defense is not all that great. And I think Mississippi State has an offense that can definitely take advantage of a bad defense. So the question is, can Mississippi State get a few stops on defense to stop Tech AM's offense? Because that offense is good. Marcel Reid, the quarterback for Tech AM, is very he's not very efficient, but he's very good at creating big plays, not only with his feet, but with his arm. So that's gonna be the question for me. I'd probably lean Tech SM, even though I did bet Mississippi State to play uh to stay within the 16 and a half points that they're underdogs in. So I think it'll be a closer game than what people think, but you know, it could go it could definitely go either way. And that's about it for college football. Yeah, that's it. That's all the games I wanted to talk about. Let's go ahead and jump to the NFL. Okay, so Jace, we haven't had you on for a minute. I just want to give you a quick, I just want to give you an opportunity to talk about some of the stories that we have like kind of dope that I've talked about in past pods. Just to give you an opportunity to have any type of thoughts that you've on the issues, okay? Jake Browning being ass. You don't have to go long because we're gonna talk about the the next game coming up anyway. But how are how do you feel about Jake Browning being absolute doo-doo water and making Jamar Chase and T. Higgins look like not good players because of how bad this offense has been.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:17

Benjamin. What are we doing? What's behind him? Can't be worse. I heard I why I looked at a tweet where somebody called him a domestic terrorist. Do you know what the first first thing was after him? At least he's throwing bombs to somebody.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:43

And my brain went, I don't want to be a Bengals fan anymore.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:49

That's crazy work. At least he's throwing bombs to somebody.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:54

Because an A to Jamar Chase or T. Higgins.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:57

Real quick, there's people on fantasy teams who drafted Jamar Chase first round. Oh, Braylon's freaking out. And T. Higgins like early second round, he was a second round, second round pick. Tweaking. That boy Jamar Chase has not scored more than 10 points in two weeks. The entire Bengals offense is nil. Nil. We had everything. We had a good tight end setup. We had a good receiver setup. Offensive line was ass trash. And that's why we're here. That's why we're fucking here.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:33

But Joe Burr. We would have made it look better.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:35

Real quick, they're bad. Not as bad as the fucking Texans. I'm just saying. They're bad. But I watched the Texans. I watched five niggas block Jeffrey Simons.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:47

Jeffrey Simmons.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:48

On one play. I watched five all of them.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:51

And he ran through all five of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:52

No, no, no. All five of them went to go block him. He let everybody else through. I watched CJ Stroud get blown the fuck up by a linebacker.

SPEAKER_05 1:11:59

I'm just saying Jamar Chase would pray to the gods for CJ Stroud to come play quarterback for you already.

Ohio State’s NFL-Style Blueprint

SPEAKER_02 1:12:04

Dude, I know. But again, he wouldn't last very long. Yeah, you're not wrong. Real quick, he just might. But I want you to understand when Miles Garrett's coming off that edge at you 150 miles an hour, because Orlando Brown's gonna let his ass through like he did fucking last time. Uh and he's gonna blow your ass up. And unfortunately for you, we haven't even played the Steelers yet. Yeah. And their defensive line is fucking crazy. And unfortunately, they're gonna come touch you. And when they send Peyton Wilson on a blitz, and that nigga hits you like he has a like he has fucking millionaire in his hands. I'm sorry about you. I'm sorry. And we'll only go nine and eight.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:41

It's just Jake Browning has looked so much worse. It is, I get it, the offensive line is worse. He probably doesn't feel comfortable. But he doesn't look like the same player. Like he looks like he looks like he got body snatched by somebody.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:55

But again, maybe him and Mac Jones switched.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:58

Mac Jones is playing some good football for San Fran right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:01

Exactly. And in any in that scheme, anybody can play good football. Oh, we'll get to that. I have my thoughts. Um, but again, like if Anthony Richardson's out there, fuck it. At least he can run. And he's gonna have to. I think Jameis could give you at least a little bit of a spark. I don't want to watch that.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:18

I don't want to watch that. That would be you'll have a very fun couple games.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:23

No, it'll be heartbreaking football of we you've thrown five touchdowns. Why are we still tied? Oh, you've thrown three pick sixes.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:33

Oh at least it'll be more fun on a daily basis with the games. Would it be? Yeah, at least you'll score. At least you'll see Jamar Chase go out there and score a touchdown. Go trade for Shador.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:44

Have that shit, show. At least there's something to watch. Like, in all honesty, there is a backup out there. There's somebody out there.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:53

You have Peyton Thorne. He's a P is your backup right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:56

Throw him in there, let him get hit. I want to see him tear his ACL. And then put Browning back in.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:05

Um we were talking shit when you saw him on the practice squad before the season even started. He was like, why is Peyton Thorne anywhere near my team right now? I was tweaking. Again, if for anybody didn't know, Peyton Thorne was the quarterback for Michigan State. Who was hot at one? Who was hot ass. Garbage. And he was like, I want Peyton Thorne to never be around me ever again.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:25

He went to Auburn and was okay. Enough for the Bengals to draft him in the seventh round. My bad, he was a fifth round pick.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:34

Wild.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:35

Um I'm sorry, dude. There has to be something better than Jake Browning out there. Has to be. There is backups quarterbacks. There's serviceable backups out there. Jake Browning is not one of them right now. No, he is not. And I really would like to rock with him because I like Browning. He gives a lot of intensity. But I'm starting to see why Minnesota cut your ass. Uh because, bro, it's not pretty.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:00

It's not pretty.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:02

I'm watching Tampa Bay this weekend because it's not even worth looking at. Yeah. I'm not about to watch the Lions Bengals game.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:08

It's about to be a good one. They're gonna touch that.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:11

If they if Browning goes out there and throws like three touchdowns and we win this fucking game, I'll tweet the fuck out of it.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:17

That's not happening. It shouldn't. Your defense is at like a defense is hot doo-doo garbage. It's even worse than I thought it would be.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:27

Jordan Battle's really good.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:28

Jordan Battle and Hendrickson are literally Logan Wilson's really good. Yeah, but as a defense, they're not playing like it.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:36

But you only have pieces.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:38

Yeah, you're not.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:38

Yeah. The rest of it's still bad. Oh, my fucking God. These motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:44

The Lions are going. I'm when I bet on that game, I'm gonna bet the over on everything. Over. Over, over, over.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:51

They should dismantle us.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:53

You know what's crazy? Is that if you would have had Joe Burrow, this will be such a nice schedule. You're seeing a lot of marquee games in a row. But like this is about to be like the third week week in a row where Cincinnati is going to get raped.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:05

You know what's funny? My defense hasn't met they haven't even played bad football. They've been playing pretty decent football. It just doesn't fucking matter. Yeah. It doesn't fucking matter. Because the offense doesn't nothing. Out of everything, they're a like bottom 15 defense. They're like not bottom 20. They're not bottom 25.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:27

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:27

They're like they're like 19, 20. They're playing decent football. Jordan Battle's on the top of it. He has two interceptions. Jeffrey Henderson playing well. Shamar Stewart, fuck. He has his uses. He was not first round's uses. He was not a first round guy. They're playing good football. Why is my defense playing pretty decent football? You're playing good complimentary football to what Joe Bro would be giving us right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:55

I just don't mean shit. Because y'all did nothing to the O-line.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:00

Nothing to the O-line.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:02

And then y'all didn't even draft defensive pieces we needed. Nope. Drafted a fucking linebacker in the second round.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:11

Who, mind you, Brennan Knight is good.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:15

He can make up some plays. He is. Make some plays.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:16

That motherfucker cannot cover. Nope. Do not let him go cover up tight end. That motherfucker is wide the fuck open. This week, when we go into Sunday, if I see a nigga on Sam Laporta, I'm turning TV back on. I'll turn it back on in 15 seconds after he scores that fucking touchdown. Sam Laporta's gonna have such a nice day. Because on Sunday, if Logan Wilson's covering, we're cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:36

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:37

But the Lions like running two tight end sets and putting Amon Ra in the fucking slot. So I know Logan Wilson's gonna be fucking busy doing his mother's shit.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:44

And then James Sim Williams on the edge where you're like, you have to worry about him too, because he'll just burn you.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:48

Yeah, Dax Hill's gonna quick draw that flag. I honestly want to dude that's gonna be fast enough. He's fast. That's it. That's it.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:57

That's it.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:58

Our other DBs, real quick, they're playing good football. Our other DBs are playing great football. It does not fucking matter. We're not losing by a shit ton. Last week was bad. Last week was bad. Wait, wait, but was last week my defense's fault or Browning's fault?

SPEAKER_04 1:18:14

Both?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:15

I think it was more Browning's fault. And then Trey Hendrickson ate playing like Trey Hendrickson, because you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:21

These last two weeks, you lost to the Vikings 48 to 10. And the Broncos 28-3.

unknown 1:18:27

That's not bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:29

Only 28 points?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:31

Again, I think that was more on the Broncos in the first half, not playing well.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:34

Wait, that same game last year, we were in fucking double overtime.

SPEAKER_07 1:18:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:41

Fine. So give them their credit. They didn't get Cortland Sutton didn't jump up over two of them niggas, catch a touchdown. Like they did to go into overtime last year. Like fourth and ten.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:50

And you know what's crazy? I had to watch that game because I needed uh J.K. Dobbins to get a touchdown because he I made a four-leg parlay, three legs a hit from that Monday night slate of both the Jets and Dolphins, and then your your game with the Broncos. All I needed was J.K. Dobbins to get a touchdown to win me like 50 bucks off a dollar, one dollar bet. They let him run all the way down the football field and then just took him off the field and just gave it to his back, RJ Harvey, and he scored the touchdown. I was pissed. I was so pissed. Alright. So I will say the one good thing about this season is that you're gonna have such a nice draft. And you're gonna be able to draft a really nice defensive piece or offensive lineman to help your team out.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:32

Y'all don't draft an offensive lineman. I will tweak the fuck out. I'm tweaking the fuck out. I need y'all to trade trade Trey Hendrickson right the fuck now. Trade his ass. They're not gonna do it. Trade his ass.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:43

He is literally Oh, I'm not gonna lie. The team's already going to shit. Trade his ass.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:47

Fucking trade him. Dude, I don't know what the fuck we're doing. Why is he still on the fucking team? If you don't go send his ass over to the fucking Lions, dude, there's so many.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:59

Take whatever you can get.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:00

There are so many teams that would offer you a second round pick right the fuck now.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:04

Probably only a second, but a second's better than nothing.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:06

I don't give a fuck. You send his ass to a team that eats some fucking defense.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:12

Yeah. It'd be it'd give you a nice draft pick for use for the offseason. I need you to trade his ass right the fuck now.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:19

We're not winning games. Fucking fuck everything. Tank. I need y'all niggas to tank.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:25

Have a top five pick.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:26

Get a top five pick and then trade back. Fuck around and trade back to like nine.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:31

You know what's crazy? There's not really a great offensive lineman coming out this year.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:34

No, but it's some great fucking quarterbacks. And there's some teams that would die to be in the top fucking five. Oh. You end up with the top five, you find a team sitting around like anywhere from like seven to ten. Seven to no, seven to like twelve. You fucking trade your ass back, get a first round in their fucking rest of their goddamn draft. And make out like bandits. Yeah. My nigga, trade Trey Hendrickson. Go get a second round pick. Flip that second to a first somehow. I don't know, my nigga. Do so.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:03

Or just use it on a player on a player that can help your team.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:06

But again, there's not a marquee O-line that I that I know is coming out. It's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:09

Not right now. No, for sure. But there's plenty of defensive players that you probably can help you.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:14

I need your asses because there's gonna be a shit ton of quarterbacks coming out in this draft.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:18

Not many good ones. Again, all the ones that we were sold were gonna be amazing. None of them have really worked out.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:26

Teams get desperate. That is true. Especially bad teams. The Cardinals will probably fucking slop somebody right now. For somebody else.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:34

No, they won't because they still owe Kyler so much money.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:36

I know, but right now, Kyler's making Marvin Harrison look like a fucking bust.

unknown 1:21:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:41

That's how bad he's making those guys look. Again, there's gonna be a team that's gonna be a little too good just to get a good quarterback. Trade back and go get a bunch of pieces. You fuck around looking at shit, you'd be like, hey, I know y'all sitting at like 18. You want this, you want this, you want this top five hit? They fuck around and give you everything for it. They try to make a Fitzpatrick for a bag of chips. How's that working out for you?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:04

Jalen Ramsey X made some plays this year. Don't do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:07

Make a Fitzpatrick is should be a fucking suicide watch right now. Play with the Dolphins? Somebody needs to go check on it.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:14

Speaking of the Dolphins, we'll get to what I don't want to speak about Dolphins. Oh Tyree Kill. Did you see the injury?

Miami–FSU and Momentum

SPEAKER_02 1:22:19

Real quick, I don't know about you. I felt I felt like goodbye to football.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:26

My first thing I said that I'm like, man, the dude was kind of an awful person every part of his life.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:33

No, no, he was a horrendous person.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:34

So it just comes down to like, man, maybe this is like karma for like all the times that he's put his children in danger or beaten the women that's been in his life. It just made me think like maybe a little divine retribution retribution to a certain extent. But here's the thing after that happened, did you see all the clips of him like smiling on the sideline, getting carted off, or there was a somebody who was following the ambulance he was on, and he just sitting there smiling on the phone, and no, everybody was like, Don't don't talk about him. Like, oh, it's a bad spot, it's a devastating injury. That injury look was gross.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:08

It's horrendous. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:09

Total dislocation of his knee, tearing of ACLs and everything on the inside.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:13

It was awful. Real quick, he's done playing.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:16

Um apparently they said after his procedure that he'll be back in 2026, but I don't believe it's so bad. Where it's at, like, and not to mention he's so predicated on his speed that like there's no guarantee he's gonna come back and be able to be the same player that he was. And even what he was now is not the player he was a few years ago when he was getting 1800 yards.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:36

He's done. Like I said, he's done. He's potentially done for his career. But again, if I'm him, I'm not gonna play no more.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:42

I don't have to play with this terrible ass team, and I still get paid.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:45

Again, I'm telling you, Mika Fitzpatrick should be on suicide watch. Uh, he is tweaking the fuck out right now. Why are the Steelers two and one?

SPEAKER_05 1:23:54

Three and one.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:55

He is freaking the fuck out.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:58

I feel bad for him. I really do.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:01

I really do. I feel bad for him. Y'all took me out of here just to send me back. What was this? What was this? I mean nothing to you. If I am him, I am going to Pittsburgh and I am burning their fucking house down. I'm burning your house down. I'm fighting the owners and I'm burning your fucking house down. You traded me back to this. I left this. Real quick, when he left, they were a better team.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:24

Oh yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:26

Fucking last week, Darren Waller saved Mike McDaniel's fucking job.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:32

That touchdown, yeah. So many people would bet on him to be the first touchdown scorer, and they made out like bandits because of like plus 3,000 with it with the odds.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:40

Darren Waller saved that nigga's job. And the Jets didn't help. The Jets definitely helped as well. Yeah. And he he at this point you only do on the fucking team. Sitting there like, what the fuck? I was out of here for four years. Just a motherfucker. He was out there for six years. Yeah. He is sick.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:01

It's the business. It's the business. I don't know. Um, that, and then I don't think there's any other stories I really. Oh. So when are you gonna tell me I'm right about the whole uh San Fran thing? They don't need anybody. They can literally pick anybody at quarterback as long as they do what they need to do with the as long as they get the ball where they need to throw it. They're making Mac Jones look good right now. And they had um they had Brock Brock Purdy in for one game last week. He throws three picks and they lose. Broncos are they're two and two. I'm just saying they have three wins now with Mac Jones as their quarterback. And Brock Purdy came back. Again, he's apparently they're saying he's weak to week now because of another injury that he has. But I'm just saying, like, I'm not I'm not gonna like I think Brock Purdy might have too much personality for that for that. I'm forgetting the coach's name. Um, but he might have to Shanahan. He might have too much too much personality for Shanahan because he wants to play a little bit of hero ball. But here's the thing they can't get rid of him because they already paid him.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:24

I won't disagree too on the fact that they paid him too much fucking money. They paid him too much money. We both agree to that. We both agreed to that one. I paid him too much fucking money. Uh-huh. Yeah. Uh but he's better than Mac Jones.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:37

I'm not claiming as a player. As a player, I think he is better than Mac Jones. But the thing is, they bring Brock back and he wants to do too much. Okay. And they lose, and then you bring Mac Jones as is willing to do what he's told, and they win a football game against the Rams.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:54

This is where you might be right. I don't think Brock Purdy w works as well in the Shannon system.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:01

Right, because he has too much personality.

unknown 1:27:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:05

But I think Brock Purdy would work great in a Rams system where they he gets that freedom to do that.

unknown 1:27:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:13

Real quick, fuck you. Anybody work in a goddamn Ram system.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:16

Yeah, but Matthew Stafford makes it look perfect. Because Matthew Stafford, Matthew Stafford.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:20

And he can do the extra bit that he needs to do. He doesn't have to, but he can. I think Shanahan is the system is do what I say. And it works.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:33

He needs an automaton as a quarterback. He wants, like, literally the Shanahan is the superstar.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:38

Just do what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:39

I'm setting it up to just do what I tell you to do and we'll win.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:41

It'll work. Yeah. In the same way, Mike Vrabel, not Mike Vrabel, uh his name.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:48

For who?

SPEAKER_02 1:27:48

The Rams.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:49

McVeigh.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:50

Sean McVay is. Yeah, you can deviate. You can deviate from what I'm telling you to do.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:56

But I think he only gave that trust to Matt Stafford. I think he'd be a lot more like Shanahan without having a guy of that caliber. Because Stafford can.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:04

Golf.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:04

Nope. Not true.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:06

You might be right. I was a little young for that. But it doesn't change.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:08

He got rid of golf because golf couldn't do he what he needed a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:13

But again, I think party would work better to his name. Sean McVeigh system. Huh? Than a Shanahan system. Shanahan is just follow what I wrote down. Yeah. And it'll work.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:27

Vikings too. Vikings have a their their offensive, their coach also has a system like that with their offense where, like, hey, we can bring in anybody to come in and win us football games.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:38

Real quick. You know, there is one more light again total for the Bengals.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:42

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:42

Zach Taylor's getting fired.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:45

This nigga's gone. There's no way he makes it. I did tell you this is that now that you have Browning, it makes it a lot more obvious that Zach Taylor don't do shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:28:56

He don't do a damn thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:58

He doesn't do shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:59

Real quick, props to our defensive coordinator. This nigga is trying. I don't give a fuck. Our defensive coordinator is currently our last one, Luna Rumo. He's for the Titans right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:10

No, he's with the Colts. Tearing it up.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:13

Okay. And you you had heard me say it a hundred times. Luna Rumo made our defenses better than they were.

NFL Pivot: Bengals Spiral

SPEAKER_05 1:29:19

Oh yeah. He was making chicken. He was making uh what is the saying? Um, chicken soup by the chicken shit or something like that?

SPEAKER_02 1:29:27

Yes, that's I think it is. But again, he was so fucking good. And I'm so upset he's gonna be.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:32

But they blamed him. He was the reason why they weren't doing well, and they got rid of him. And now he's doing well with the court. The guy they tr they hired from the Notre Dame. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:41

Yes. He real quick, he's a good defensive coordinator. And he says our defense is not great, but without him, they'd be worried.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:49

It's not that they don't have a structure. They have a structured defense. It's just they don't they're not they don't have dudes. They don't have dudes.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:56

Our best guy right now is Jordan Battle.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:59

And he He's playing like it. But Jordan Battle's always been getting better. Logan Wolse's also been good. And Trey Hendrickson, again, he's just sluggish. Because, dude, you have done nothing. Yeah. He's getting there. Yeah. You can see him start to turn it on. But again.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:14

You're not getting what he was last year.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:16

The light at the end of the tunnel?

SPEAKER_05 1:30:17

Again, does he even want to be the guy he was last year with them screwing him over the way he has? They have?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:21

The light at the end of the tunnel? Because our offensive corner is fucking gone. Right. And Zach Taylor is fucking gone. He's going to be gone. That is a plus. A fucking offensive-minded head coach will not be hard for us to find.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:34

Hey, you want to come coach Joe Burrow and this is the Joe Burrow, Jamar James, Duggernaut and the system?

SPEAKER_02 1:30:38

The offense that we have.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:40

Hey, all you have to do is come in here, figure out the offensive line, and we have something we're cooking with gas. You're totally right on that.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:48

Sorry. It came to your brain, yeah. I was like, Zach Taylor's fucking out of your job.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:53

There is no there's nothing to be able to say he did he's doing his job right.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:57

You are out of a job. Yeah, he's done. Because real quick, Brown is trying to follow his play calls. They're just not good play calls. Yeah. They're bad play calls. Yeah. I know. Again, I don't Mike McDaniel's probably the best coach out there going into this year.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:13

I don't think you want him as the head coach either, man. But what other people do? He'd make a mean offensive coordinator, though, for whoever it does become the head coach. That's what I'm saying. But again, he'd be a mean offensive coordinator. Again, you never know. Again, as long as they're from the McVay or the Shanahan tree. We tried that. It'll be fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:33

We tried that.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:34

I guess Zach Taylor is that, didn't he?

SPEAKER_02 1:31:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:37

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:38

It didn't work. He ate the guy. It didn't work. He isn't from a Shanahan tree, he's from the McVeigh tree, which they tend to work out a little bit better.

SPEAKER_06 1:31:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:49

But what if you went and got like a defensive-minded head coach and then just spent. But here's the thing. You're not gonna, if you've got that guy, because if you can get a guy like um, if you can get like a defensive-minded guru, right, that can fix your defense like a Raple, and then spend the money to go get an offensive guy to be your offensive coordinator. Like I'm Daniel. Right. But the thing is he'll leave at one point because he'll end up getting another opportunity at his coaching job. And then you have to get another guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:18

At that point.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:19

And not to mention your team won't spend the money to do so. Which is why you have to get the two for one of being an offensive-minded head coach that won't go nowhere, but if you pay them, they'll stay. So like that's where you have to kind of go that route.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:30

That's why I'm like 99.9% sure I'm about to see Mike McDaniel as my head coach. And you know what? I'm okay with that. He calls some great fucking plays.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:38

Joe Burrow can be the culture. As long as Mike McDaniel doesn't have to set a culture, he's fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:43

Yes, and that's the thing. You don't have to. The Bengals don't fucking have one. There isn't one.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:47

Joe Burrow is the culture.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:48

That's the whole fucking thing. And Mike McDaniel, all you gotta do is scheme some fucking plays. And I know you can't.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:54

Help him out. Help him out.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:56

Scheme the guys open. I like the Dolphins playbook. They have a good fucking playbook. It's just your players don't fit the playbook. You want to throw the ball deep, and Tua's like, more than 40? I can't even count that hard.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:08

He's shaking in his boots. There, there was one point where Tua actually said to the media, like, hey, I tell Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle all the time, he's like, hey, if you run far enough, you know you gotta turn around because you know I can't throw that far.

SPEAKER_06 1:33:21

And the fact that he said that to the media, there's some shit you don't need to say out loud. Let it let it be said real soft.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:27

Their play, their playbook is a lot of medium and deep gross.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:31

But they they cut all that out to have to try to fit Tua, and it's just Tua's not that dude.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:36

I am begging for that. T. Higgins is a fucking head top, and Jamar Chase is faster than you. Yeah. What the fuck are we doing? Our short route guys is our six foot five Iliosovis over there. Yeah. He's our short route guy. You know why? Because there's a fucking linebacker on him, and he's too fucking fast for a linebacker. Yeah. Nah, let's throw the Chase Brown in the backfield. Why?

SPEAKER_05 1:33:59

He gets guaranteed receiving yards every week, though. I use him as a betting. I use him to bet all the time.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:04

I love Chase Brown, and everybody's like, oh, why isn't he rushing as well? I'm like, because our own line's arguably worse. Right. The only deal that's been good on the O-line has been Mims. Yeah, no doubt. Dude. I'm starting to really like this guy. Holy fuck, he's actually pretty good. Please don't move him to left tackle next year. Please don't do that. Because he's gonna look bad. Yeah. And he's a really good right tackle. Yeah. If our quarterback was left-handed, he'd be protected.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:31

Please don't move him the left tackle.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:33

Don't do it.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:34

You can maybe move into like the guard spot.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:37

No, you not left guard, you don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:39

No, you can move him to like right guard.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:41

No, you can leave him at right tackle. He can do the job. I understand.

SPEAKER_02 1:34:44

That's cool. But you only need two things. Number one, this nigga at center, kill his ass. Fucking murder his ass. Yeah. He is trash. Our guards. Your guards are awful. Horrendous. I need the motherfucker to let the let the dude through that hit Joe Burrow. I need him to be cauterized and castrated.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:03

And Orlando Brown is obviously old and it's not gonna be. Yeah, no doubt. No doubt.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:13

I'm about to watch TJ Watt do the same shit. Yeah. TJ Watt plays on the right side. My bad. Yeah. I'm about to watch whatever random nigga that is on the left side at fucking every point of the game. Might be High Smith, might be a different nigga. Might be Nikki Herbert, might be fucking Peyton Wilson. I don't know who the fuck it is at this point. That nigga's that's been four fucking different people all game. Yep. Yeah, no doubt. I don't want to deal with that. I need y'all to go into the draft, get a left fucking tackle. Not a, oh, he might be good. He's a boomer bust guy. No, I need a fucking boomer.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:40

Guaranteed start from the beginning. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:42

Or I need y'all to fuck around, go trade, and then go to a team like the fucking Chargers, be like, hey, I want one of your tackles. Give me one of them.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:50

They're not gonna do that. Not to mention both of them are hurt now, so you don't want to you don't want to go down that. I don't give a fuck. They're both so goddamn good. They don't matter. You'll you'll take them hurt.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:59

I'll take them hurt. I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:01

They won't trade them. Harbaugh them too much, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:04

They're so fucking good. Yeah. Rashawn Slater and Joe Ot. Awesome.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:09

You need one of those.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:10

I need one of those. How did them niggas end up with two?

SPEAKER_05 1:36:13

Because they sucked for long enough to where they had the opportunity to go take them and they took them. That's crazy. Well, that's the thing. When you have a top five pick, you have an opportunity to take a you know, take a tackle, don't go and take a wide receiver instead.

unknown 1:36:33

I know, but it worked out so well.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:35

Jamar Chase is so good. But imagine Panay soul and choice right now.

unknown 1:36:40

Oh my god. I would be a good one.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:42

Pinaisul right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:43

Pinais Soul has been an all he's been an all-pro NFL. He's been an all-pro. Yeah. Twice. Now so is Jamar Chase. He's been an all-pro twice as well. Yeah. But again, we're not the Falcons. We didn't draft Kyle Pitts.

unknown 1:36:58

Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:59

Alright. But again. I would kill for Pinaisul. We probably would not have made the Super Bowl, Penaceul.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:07

Yeah, but you probably would be a better team long term if you had Panasol.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:11

Would we?

SPEAKER_05 1:37:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:12

Would we?

SPEAKER_05 1:37:13

You would have building blocks of not just wide receivers and Joe Barrow. Which isn't a bad thing. No, it's not. You may not be an A plus plus at wide receiver. You might just be an A.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:25

Who knows? Who knows?

SPEAKER_05 1:37:26

But at least you'd have your stalworth left tackle to rely on.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:33

We're ending up in the teens. We gotta be a little worse if we end up in like the tens. Right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:40

You're gonna have one of those picks now. That's a guarantee.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:48

You better take the greatest defensive talent of his generation. I better see a fucking JJ Watt coming out this motherfucker. I better see a motherfucker will lead us to a Super Bowl on his own. I want to fucking Abdul Carter. I want a goddamn fucking TJ Watt. I need a game record. I need generational. Yeah. From the moment he steps on the field, you're looking at this motherfucker like a hall of fame. Yeah. I don't give a fuck who it is. Like, if y'all get a defensive tackle like Dexter Lawrence, this motherfucker's putting up 15 a year. As a defensive tackle? That's crazy numbers.

SPEAKER_05 1:38:27

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:28

Yeah. Or if there's a star stellar DB, or help me God, Caleb Downs is there?

SPEAKER_05 1:38:35

You don't need another safety. If that safety's Caleb Downs. Oh, you again, you you know how I feel about Caleb Downs.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:43

If that safety's Caleb Downs, Jordan Bottle, you can fuck off. How good you have gotten. You can go fuck right off. Caleb Downs, that nigga's been ready for the NFL for four three years. No, yeah, he's been ready. He's been ready. Awesome. He's been an NFL talent since he got to fucking college. Yeah. I do not care. If we're at like pick four or five, because we're gonna be that bad. We're gonna be in the top of the top ten.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:07

You're gonna be a top ten Gare run teed. No question.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:10

Caleb Downs is sitting there. You better draft his ass. I'll give a fuck. Who's on the board?

SPEAKER_03 1:39:14

Draft Caleb Downs. Yeah. Uh sorry.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:20

Once you had the moment about my about Zach Taylor, it just took us down this rabbit hole. And I'm glad you get to have this opportunity because I'm like, so much. I do.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:27

They are my pride and joy, but holy shit, I don't want to turn the TV on on Sunday. I know, I get you. Saturdays are pretty cool because I'm like, hey, we might we're probably gonna make a bowl game. Yeah. So I'm like, there's something to watch here. We're competitive. Yeah. We're competitive. I turn on the Sunday football and I watch a tuple drive. It's depressing. All right, who else is playing? Depressing as fuck. Let's go see who else is playing. Yeah. I was watching four games the other day on my TV because I was casting it from your YouTube account, and not one of them was of Engels. I was watching fucking Panthers. Oh, by the way, he's done. Bryce done? Yeah. Yeah. Awful. Tethero McMillan's pretty good. So bad. He is good. A lot better than I thought he was. Better than you thought. No, he can run around.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:09

No, he has, he has. He's better than Drake London.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:11

I don't know if he's so much better than Drake London.

O-line Woes, Draft, and Coaching Futures

SPEAKER_05 1:40:16

Look, I I just I'm I'm glad you get to have this opportunity to talk about it because when it's our regular lives and when we're talking about, I try to stay away from it because I'm sitting there like, I don't want to disappoint you, I don't want to depress you about it, because I know the Bengals is like, that's your pride and joy.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:31

I need a backup jersey, bro. Uh I can't wear the Joe Burrow jersey with pride no more. I need a backup. Uh give me like a like a T. Higgins. No, I can see I I don't want to be a player I know is gonna leave.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:42

So Jamar Chase.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:45

Give me like a Logan Wilson jersey.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:47

Yeah, but he's older though. So he's not. Oh, sorry, he's not older. I always get him mixed up and say he's older, but he's not.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:55

Okay, yeah. But Logan Wilson was drafted at 21. Okay. He's only 25.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:58

Okay, not bad. Not bad, not bad. Now it's on me.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:01

More like a Jordan Battle jersey.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:02

Oh, that's also a good one. But again, they don't like they like not paying safeties and letting them walk.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:08

He's a strong safety too.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:10

Yeah, I'm like I said, I just want I'm glad you get to have this opportunity to talk about your Bengals and get it off your chest because I know it's it's a it's a weight on your shoulders. So I'm I'm glad we have to have this convo. Um but there's a running back. Uh yeah, but again, you don't necessarily need to take use a high draft pick on a running back. I know, but I'm watching.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:29

He's gotta pick the right running back. I'm watching Scottaboo run through niggas' chest.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:32

Real quick, who you were wrong about. You said he wasn't gonna be that good.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:36

He is producing in a way that I probably need to give him more credit. He will not produce for very long. Not gonna be, he'll it'll be a good time, not a long time.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:45

He's like a five, six year guy because he just that motherfucker is looking for contact.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:50

Okay. Um, couple other stories, just real quick hitters. Lamar, they're saying he's potentially gonna be out the next three weeks. So he's definitely out for the Sunday's game against Houston. But they say he might be out another week or two after that, and they're already one and three.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:09

And here's my here's what's what pisses me off. This is our year. This is our year. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_04 1:42:17

This is our year. This is our year. The Steelers are mad as fuck, the Browns are the Browns and the Ravens suck. This is it! What are we doing? You know what it's turned into? This is it, bro. It's now the Steelers year. I'm pissed. Dude, the year y'all need to be bad. Y'all need to be bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:39

Y'all are three and one. The year the Bengals are like, hey, this do or die. Everybody else is ass, and we're just nowhere to be found. This was it. This was it. No ravens. No, no Browns were never a fucking object, dude. We already beat them. Yeah. We we conquered that lion. And the Steelers are just mid as fuck. If it comes out to a quarterback battle, they're cooked.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:05

Yeah, no question.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:06

No.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:07

Nope.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:07

Fucking turf toe.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:08

You're out now, buddy. And this is where I'm pissed because I'm just like, now it's gonna be the Steelers because there's really no other option. And I think the I'm not gonna sit here and say the Ravens are not gonna be in the playoffs or anything. They're gonna figure it out at some point. Oh, the fuck they won. But like if they can't last the next couple weeks, they're gone.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:23

If they if they lose two more games, they're done.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:26

Yeah, and like they're gonna be in such a hole, and the Steelers are three and one. So I'm just like, the Steelers are probably gonna win the division, which I really don't want. To be totally long term, I don't want because we're not gonna go win multiple playoff games.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:37

Emptiness. So I'm just sitting here like a pretty decent record.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:42

Go play the go maybe win one playoff game and then go lose.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:47

Do nothing with it because there's no one to draft there.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:49

And then Aaron Rodgers is gone. Now we won't have a quarterback again.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:52

Will Howard?

SPEAKER_05 1:43:53

Maybe, but again, I just don't, they're not gonna give him enough, he's not gonna have the opportunity to prove whether he can beat the guy or not. And I just don't think they're gonna be like, oh, we're all in on Will Howard being our next quarterback. I think they like him, but it's just do they like him as just a backup? Or do they like actually like him to be able to build him up to be a quarterback of the future?

SPEAKER_02 1:44:12

It'd be fun to watch him play.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:13

Um not to mention he's coming from Human out uh off of IR because he broke his thumb before the preseason. Yeah. So he hasn't even done anything in a while because they haven't let him play. Um, but yeah, the Ravens might be without Lamar.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:26

Trade for Will Howard. At least I could watch him play.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:29

They might be without Lamar. Um Daniels, Jaden Daniels will be ready. He's officially a go against Chargers. So they'll have him back.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:38

This is an injury-riddled season. Oh, yeah, no question. For everybody. Yeah. I felt so bad from Malik Neighbors.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:45

Yeah, it was awful, man. And here's the thing another one of those teams that have that has a um turf field.

unknown 1:44:55

Damn.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:56

That's one thing I can feel very good about is the Steelers team because they use grass. And because think about it this way um Najee played at the Steelers for five years and played great. Goes to the to the Chargers, doesn't even last a season, and he tears an ACO out for the year. So it's just one of those things where like Lily instantly approves, like, hey, everybody, all these teams make too much money. Everybody should be using grass. I just don't, I don't get it, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:21

It's heck, weren't the commanders using turf for a long time?

SPEAKER_05 1:45:25

I think they're still using turf.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:26

And they have they their field is notorious for people tearing your fucking ACLs.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:32

No question. I just like I just don't know, like you have the money, man. Just go, just keep if you want your players to be out there healthy and ready to go for you every week when you pay them millions upon millions of dollars, you would think you'd spend a couple million dollars per year maintaining a grass field to try to keep them healthy. It just makes total sense to do so. It is more expensive.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:52

It is more expensive, but but it's better. It's shown to be better.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:55

They make money hand over fist on a yearly basis. It doesn't matter. They're just being penny pinchers, dude. Now, like if you're paying all that money to these players that you that to go out there and produce for you, pay them to be playing for you and not getting healthy from coming back from injury. It just seems so easy to me. I just don't understand. Um I think that was the last story.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:20

Come on, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:21

It's it's so easy. I don't understand. But that's it when it comes to stories. Uh let's go ahead and go on to our NFL games, make our picks, do what we gotta do there, so we don't have a two and a half hour podcast.

unknown 1:46:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:34

Uh game one. Oh, oh, oh, we didn't recap.

SPEAKER_05 1:46:40

I do want to talk about the game real quick. It was a fun game. It was back and forth. It was one of the in going down when the um the Rams at the end had an opportunity to win the game with like a minute or so left, and they were going for the touchdown, and Kyram Williams got the ball punched out. That D-tackle from the Rams uh from the Niners came through and he earned that fumble. That would this was not Kyron Williams being like lazy with the football. He was just he had both he had his hand on it, it wasn't both hands. I will give him that. But he had good contact on the football. That defensive tackle came through and earned it and took got the fumble, and that really was the difference in the game. Because if the Rams would have got that that touchdown, they would have been up with a good amount of time left. And I don't think the Niners had any uh had any uh timeouts. So that really would probably have been the win for them if they would have gotten that touchdown. They didn't. Um the Niners went, scored the scored the field goal. Actually, no, they went and took about a minute off the clock. Rams got the ball. Who do you foresee? Got the field goal this year. Being in the Super Bowl?

SPEAKER_00 1:47:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:47:47

Um I don't know if I could say the Eagles, man. Things are going things are looking really weird. But here's the thing, I don't the Bills defense is a little leaky for me. But Josh Allen is playing at a crazy level to where I think he it just might be his year. And and I hate to I hate to say it. It just might end up being the fucking Chiefs again. It just might be the fucking Chiefs again, man. They got all they needed was worthy, and their offense actually looked okay again. Again, it was against the Ravens defense that has been total ass chicks this year, but like they went and scored 30-something points, and like they look like their offense had an assemblance of identity again. Again, their defense isn't all that great, but it's just they can make the plays when necessary, which is what they they've been doing for years now. So it could just be the fucking Chiefs again, and that's gonna piss me off more than anything if that's really the case. Um, but then on the NFC side, it makes I'm like the Green Bay hasn't been looked all that great. They look like they were a contender, and then they or their defense looked like ass. I'm just like, I don't know. The the NFC is a little bit harder, but I I just think, you know, it's gonna be the Bills, it's gonna be the Chiefs, it's gonna be the Ravens who are out of it at this point. I don't see them as like I just think their defense is too much of an issue. Um, but yeah, it's a it's a very hard road. But it again, it's gonna end up being the it's gonna end up pissing me off gonna be the Chiefs again. It just it feels that way. Um, but San Fran Rams, it just sucks that that happened for Kyron Williams. Um, but it was a back and forth game. It's very good, but like I said, it just it's crazy to me that Mac Jones can just come out here, be the automaton for for that team, and he goes out there and makes enough plays to win the football games, and they just keep doing it. Christian McCaffrey, like, he missed all of last year with his injury, and then he comes back, and he they don't use him as much in the run game, but they use him so much in the passing game, and he's getting 60 to 70 yards receiving every single goddamn week. And it's just they're using him, he's just a weapon, and they're just using him like that, and it's awesome to see them do it. And they have so many guys injured on that team, it's just crazy how they just keep winning football games. But again, the Rams have their opportunities. I think Stafford had an awesome game, but it's just they had their opportunity to go out there and win it, and they didn't. And even in overtime, when they had the ball, they were going for they didn't go for the tie. They tried to go for the win, which I which I actually give them a little credit for for going for the win instead of going just like tying it like Green Bay did because they were fucking stupid. With it was such a bad sequence there at the end when they were playing the Cowboys. It was it pissed me off because I was up till 1 a.m. watching this game.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:26

And real quick, we gotta change the overtime rules.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:29

I I don't think I want to go back to it being like sudden death. Because I do feel like offense are just too good.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:37

I want the college rule.

SPEAKER_05 1:50:39

But the college just seems like it would be so much better of a like a system, right? I just feel like it'd be awesome. Like it's great. Would you have more time playing? Yeah, for sure, but you have better players, so like I just think it'd be I don't know. I just think I think college is so much better. Um, when it comes to the overtime rules. But my my biggest question coming out of that game.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:59

Yes and no. Sometimes I'm like, we're in the fifth overtime. Can we fucking stop?

SPEAKER_05 1:51:02

Oh, I get what you're saying. I do. Let's tie. And you're not. The ties are dumb. They are dumb. My only thing about the end of that game was why would you run the football? It's fourth and one, and they tried to they just tried to run the football right up, right down the uh middle of the defense, and San Fran stuffed it. And I'm like, I'm just like, I don't know why you closed, you had a condensed formation, you brought in the big bodies, and you're like, hey, we're just gonna run the football down your throat and get this first down. And I'm just like, I just don't know if Matthew Stafford was, they didn't run the football, they didn't run the football that well last night. So I'm just sitting here like, why would you why would you do all that if you could just let Matthew Stafford be the quarterback and go out there and make the play? Because he's been doing it all night. It was just a very stupid decision to me. But credit to the the Niners, they got the win there. Um, but it was and I got one money, so that's all that matters.

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SPEAKER_02 1:51:57

That's funny. I I would I could almost be a Rams fan.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:03

If we didn't lose Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:05

Yeah, that is a little bit of a bummer for you there, huh?

SPEAKER_02 1:52:08

I I the the Rams were the team I wanted to pick to watch for the rest of the year.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:11

Because they're fun, they don't really have anything to do with you if you if Joe wants your bro comes back. They're gonna make the playoffs.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:17

But I can't, because we lost Super Bowl to you, and you killed my my dreams. All my hopes and dreams were dashed in a fucking pass.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:25

That is true. Yeah. Yeah. Open wound.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:30

Alright. Well, so coming off that game, go ahead and go on to oh, by the way, that game was 26-23. Sam Fran won it overtime. Um, let's go ahead and go through the rest of the schedule and make our picks.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:40

We got Minnesota at Cleveland in London.

SPEAKER_05 1:52:42

I'm gonna take Minnesota.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:45

Why would you take anybody else?

SPEAKER_05 1:52:47

Yeah, because Browns are gonna have Dylan Gabriel starting for them, which I think is not gonna go all that well. In his credit, I think he actually might be better than Joe Flacco, because I think Joe Flacco has been certifiable ass all year long. I agree. I do think Dylan Gabriel will give you a little bit more, but I just don't know if it's gonna be a very stark difference and really transform that offense into like, you know, being viable. But I do think it'll like Minnesota with the way their defense looked against the Steelers. The Minnesota's just better, but they should win the game. But I think Dylan Gable will show a little bit more. Yeah, Las Vegas, uh Indiana. I'm taking Indianapolis. I was more of a Gino apologist coming into the year while you were a little more of a Brock Purdy apologist.

SPEAKER_04 1:53:31

Gino fucking Smith. Gino hot fucking garbage.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:34

He has been garbage, garbage, garbage, garbage, garbage. He's been bad. It's been so bad. Him and Jake Brown are competing for who can throw more interceptions before we get benched. Get the fuck out of my face. You Brock Purdy is a weeks fucking better than Gino at this point. Tell me he's not. How many interceptions does Gino have? It's more than seven. Because he hasn't played.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:55

He's been injured. What week is it? He threw three picks in one game last week. What are you talking about? Who? Purdy. Purdy didn't play last week. Yes, he did. He did? Yeah. Damn.

unknown 1:54:07

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:07

He just hasn't played. He's making just as many mistakes.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:10

Gino's worse. I fucking told you Gino is hot fucking garbage. Gino. He's not that bad. I'm like, no, his stat line looks fucking good. I was like, but you see this little thing right here. Interceptions. You only do five more fucking touchdowns interceptions. This nigga's not that good. You know what who made him look good last year? JSN. God bless. You'd never do it again.

SPEAKER_04 1:54:34

Gino Smith is fucking garbage.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:36

Yeah, it's not that good. I hate it. Gino Smith was so bad last week he wasted a three-touchdown jick game from Ashton Genty. Genty had his come out game. He was awesome. He made a lot of plays, and they lost the game to the to Chicago because Gino had those three picks. That was literally the biggest reason.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:54

Chicago's defense is shitty. Yeah, it is. It's fucking shitty.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:58

It's not good. They have a lot of injured players. Like, it's so bad. And y'all motherfucking.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:02

Gino made them look stellar. Yeah, they did. Stellar! Yeah. Fuck you. Geno Smith is garbage. I was right. And I swear to God, I'm right about Purdy. If he's even an inkling better than Geno Smith, I'm gonna fucking slash your tires. That's how angry people are.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:17

I will say Geno Smith's more healthy. At least he's playing.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:19

I wish he wasn't. Raiders fans wish he wasn't.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:24

That I can kind of agree with you on. I can agree with you on that.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:27

Believe me, I know a Raiders fan does not wish Geno Smith was playing right now.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:33

It's only because they didn't they didn't have a quarterback they really wanted to draft.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:36

I've heard somebody say throw O'Connell back in. That's how bad Gino has been.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:42

He's been bad. No, it's not been good. No, it's been very it's been very bad. It's been awful.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:47

All right. Uh Giants at the end.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:49

Oh, by the way, Indy, still playing great. Even with their loss to the Rams last week. It was a good loss. It was a good loss. They played very well. If uh Adnai A.D. Mitchell didn't fumble the ball going into the end zone as he was trying to reach out for the he literally fumbled it, went outside the went out the back of the end zone. And then he also had a holding call on like a 60-something yard touchdown run from the running back. My McVeans didn't know. Um don't do this to me, John. Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor. He had a very bad game. That was like the reason they lost. But otherwise, Indianapolis playing very good. Daniel Jones playing very good. I have to keep giving him his credit because I talked about how ass he was. So I or I feel a duty to say Daniel Jones is actually playing good for the game.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:28

Next game we got New York Giants at the Saints. Take the Giants. Yeah. Real quick, I've never seen a team be so bad that their best player retired. Tyron Matthews said, fuck this. I'm not, I'm not doing this. I'm just retired. Yeah. That's crazy. Uh see Russell Wilson's also retired.

SPEAKER_05 1:56:44

No, they that actually hasn't happened. He shouldn't. But I will say, I don't think Jackson Dart is actually any better than Russell Wilson throwing the football. Nope. But you know what Jackson Dart can do? He can move. He can move and he can run the football. And he has Moxie. And I think he gives the fan base and the players in the locker room more oomph, more hope, because he just brings a lot more juice. And I just think as the passing comes along, it does hurt that he won't have neighbors, though. That's like their best weapon.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:15

Hurt it. This is going to be the last game they win this year. It might be.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:20

But their defense is still awesome.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:22

But it's just defense is elite.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:24

I just think that's good. I think that as he comes along passing wise, he'll be able to run the football. And as I just don't want him to get destroyed confidence-wise because their offensive line isn't good and they don't have a lot of weapons around him. But I think he he gives you a little bit more than what Russell Wilson does. Um yeah, next game.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:42

Dallas at the Jets. I think Dallas.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:44

By the way, Steelers don't have like because uh our second string wide our number two wide receiver is now hurt. Um I think that we should be making so many calls to try to go get Chris Olave to be our number two wide receiver. It would get take whoever you want. Give him whoever you want and go ahead and get him because he can be just a long-term answer at wide receiver in a way where I just think it would just be helpful because Chris Olave is wasting all of his talents with the Saints. It's a shame. Sorry, I had to mention it. Next game. I'm taking Dallas. I'm gonna take Dallas. Another quarterback I have to give a little bit of credit to. Dak is not playing terribly. He is playing well. You are still gonna fall on the honey trap when it comes to George Pickens. He gave you a really good game last week. I'm giving I'm giving him a lot of credit on that. But it's a trap.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:42

It's a fucking trap. I fell for this trap. He's gonna give you this awesome game and make you think of like, oh, it's so great.

SPEAKER_05 1:58:49

He's our number one now. It's so awesome. But you're gonna want CD Lamb back as fast as you can because the more you start relying on him is when he's gonna break your goddamn heart and not try, and it's gonna piss you off. So I'm just letting you know now. I've been through this.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:04

It is frustrating because I've been through this shit. George Pickens is more than talented enough to be a number one receiver.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:10

He's talented enough to be a top five wide receiver in the goddamn NFL. He he really is.

SPEAKER_04 1:59:15

Yes, he is.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:16

But it's gonna piss you off that much more when he's not trying, when it when he's feeling like he does not get the football. And that's gonna come. It's going to come at some point. You just better hope you have CeeDee Lamb on your team playing for you when it happens, so you at least still have somebody else to throw to. Because right now, all they have is all they have is George Pickens and a bunch of nobodies. And Dak is making them look good.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:38

They're tight end.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:39

But they don't use him that much. They don't use him as much as they probably should. But like, they like but just you need CeeDee Lamb back. Do not sit here and think you don't need C D. Because George Pickens will let you down sooner or later. It will happen. But Dak Prescott is playing very good football. He's playing efficient. He's throwing the fall all over the place. If you're gonna make any parlays. The over on completions is a guaranteed hit because they need to throw the football. Because Javante Williams is playing well at running back, but he is he's not a bell cow. They're they're picking spots to run, and that's when they're making their perspective with running. Right. But it's not like they can sit there and just keep running the football and it work out. So Dak's playing well. I just had to make sure to give him his credit. And New York Jets, even though I think uh uh Justin Fields is playing okay, they are so undisciplined, so many penalties. It's a clusterfuck. And I feel bad for Garrett Wilson and him. I really do. And not to and I'll give you this credit. Sauce Garner is a holding and he's a holding machine. He was never that good. When you're that long and as fast as he is, why are you holding? You don't have to.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:50

I have been saying this since he got drafted. His nickname's cool, but he's not that good.

SPEAKER_05 2:00:54

Luckily, he got paid this offseason because I just think the longer this goes, the worse it'll get.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:58

I have been saying this forever. He's not that good.

SPEAKER_05 2:01:02

Not great. Not good at all.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:04

Alright, next game, Denver at Philadelphia.

SPEAKER_05 2:01:06

I picked the Eagles. I'm gonna take Philly. How do you feel about the whole thing with uh um I I suck with names right now? Wide receiver. Uh oh, AJ Brown. Yeah, him and all him putting out the tweet. I think he's being gaslit. I think what he the things he's talking about are actual issues.

SPEAKER_08 2:01:33

I agree.

SPEAKER_05 2:01:34

I don't think he's wrong on that. Maybe he's doing it the wrong way, yeah, for sure. When does a receiver ever do it the right way? No, you're you're you're not wrong. But I think he's being gaslit because they keep winning. I feel bad for him. I really do, because I'm like, he knows the passing offense is an issue. Everybody knows it's an issue, but they keep winning football games, so it's like, oh, it doesn't, it's okay.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:54

But I think him it it comes up as him just crying winning football games, but I'm looking at him.

SPEAKER_06 2:02:00

But if they used him, they'd be a better football team. They're not running the football effectively right now.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:04

He got like two targets throughout the entire game. And as an upward receiver, just the Bengals are bad, and Jamar Chase is averaging seven, eight targets. Yeah. It's insane. Uh, y'all gotta put the ball in the air because everyone knows you're fucking running it.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:18

And that's been the whole problem.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:20

Saquon's not been that good this year. He hasn't. Because everybody knows you're running the ball. And you can't run the football effectively.

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SPEAKER_02 2:02:26

Everyone knows you're running the ball. Yeah. Why would we send anybody out? AJ Brown's out there just running routes.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:31

They say apparently they've been tracking all the routes that he runs, and it's pretty much just hitches or go balls. They are not treating him as the wide receiver that he is. And also the guy that doesn't get enough credit, like the guy that kind of goes unnoticed is Devontae Smith. He's dealing with the same issues too. He gets a few more targets on a per game basis than what AJ Brown does. But like I think he has the same issues, and it's just they're not, it's something, it's like a problem that everybody knows the problem, they're just not addressing it. And AJ Brown's the only one because they're winning. And there's like, oh, it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:02

That's no. So I feel bad for him.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:04

He's being gaslit. I really do. Dude, I totally agree with you. He's not a f he's not, he's not doing, he's not running with it well. He's not saying it the right way. But his complaints are valid. And if they don't get this passing offense figured out, they're not gonna sit here and just run the football down to everybody's throat and win football games like they did last year. It's not happening. It's not. Their offense line is taking a little bit of a step back, and they have to accept that and open up the offense a bit, or they're going to start, or it's gonna be a real problem. Um, it already is a problem, it's gonna get even worse.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:34

Next game, you have Miami Carolina. This is the one game I couldn't pick.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:38

Oh shit. Because it am I crazy for saying I will not want to put one eyeball on this game? I want to stay away from this football game so bad.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:48

Real quick, I'm gonna bet it though. Oh, but to see how much money I can win from them being ass.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:53

The over-under is 44 and a half. I think that might be too many points. There's no way I score 44.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:00

Real quick, the Dolphins just might. They made torch this Carolina team.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:06

The Carolina's bad.

SPEAKER_03 2:04:07

Carolina is horrendous. Real quick, the Dolphins are much further.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:11

They're not much better.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:12

I was cool. I picked every one of my games, right? I got to this game and froze.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:17

I'm like, I think Tua has enough pieces on offense, even without Tyreek Hill, to where I think they can string a couple of drives together to win this football game. I think they could probably win 14-3.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:28

One of these teams need to score twice to win.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:34

A good 10-3 football game might win it.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:36

That's it, man. Y'all gonna score twice or get in the field goal range at least three or four times. Yeah. That's it. That's all you gotta do. Yeah. And you're taking this game. And my I I don't trust Bryce Young enough to do it.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:49

Bryce Young's been ass.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:50

So I have to take Miami to do it. But I believe Miami could also lose this fucking game.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:55

Yeah. I'm gonna take Miami, but I do not feel good about it.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:58

Okay, thank you. I was struggling over here. I'm like, I believe Carolina could fucking win this game. They're at home.

SPEAKER_05 2:05:03

Oh yeah. No, I really do believe Carolina can win the game. But I wouldn't, I don't put any stock in it whatsoever. I think Miami can surely go out, like you said, go out there and lose the game. But I just don't think I it's gross.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:16

It's such a terrible game.

SPEAKER_05 2:05:18

Houston at Baltimore. Houston.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:20

Without Lamar Jackson and your defense has been garbage.

SPEAKER_05 2:05:22

Do you know who the quarterback for Baltimore is gonna be? See, I said it and I remembered his name, and now I'm forgetting it. So I have to make sure I put it a it's um without Lamar Jackson. Oh sorry, let me get to their I gotta oh it's Cooper Rush Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush. But here's the thing, you know who probably will feel so great about this? Derrick Henry. Because at least they'll actually ru give him the football and let him run. Do you know that the with Derrick Henry on their team, they actually run the football on first and second down the least in the NFL? How? How you have Derek Henry on your team? I just don't know how you run the football the least on first and second down in the NFL.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:13

Yeah, but when he gets the ball, he's effective.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:16

So why aren't y'all giving him the ball? Y'all can't throw that, bitch. Derek save your life.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:20

Actually, they have been throwing actually well, but it's just they're just not winning football games. I'm gonna take Houston. Ravens' defense hasn't been great, and now they have Cooper Rush. I guess maybe they could just run it to Derrick Henry, let him run for 200 yards, and they win.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:33

Yeah, but that wouldn't work on the Houston defense.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:35

Houston's defense is good. They're actually good at stopping okay stopping run. But I don't, again, he wears everybody down, so I'm not gonna sit here and say they're gonna lock down Derrick Henry.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:44

I agree. That motherfucker's gonna run that ball 42 times this game. But they're gonna end up with 200 fucking yards.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:48

But they have to rely on Cooper Rush.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:50

And then, but you guys are gonna get to a point where you're like, hey, it's 21-21. You gotta throw this ball. Yeah. And again, Cooper Rush may light it up. He's done it before.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:00

But it's against against Houston's defense, I just don't see it. That back end is their best part of their defense and they're lethal.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:06

Next game, Tennessee at Arizona. I picked Arizona.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:09

I'm gonna take Arizona. I'm going to believe Cam Ward when he told the media after last game that we are ass.

SPEAKER_04 2:07:17

He said, he said, I'm gonna keep it a buck with you. We're ass. And I'm like, I respect that man so much more.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:25

Because he said he did not take anybody particularly Titans. He said we. We he included that himself. And real quick, he is not ass.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:34

And they asked him about him specifically, and he said, Yeah, he said ass. Mm-hmm. Like, so I'm sitting here like, at least he's being like, as much as it sounds like he was like trying to point everybody out, but guess what? He was being very diplomatic in the way he was saying it.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:48

Real quick.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:49

I I credit to him, credit to him. This is a And their coach's ass. This is a franchise quarterback.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:54

Their head coach sucks. I don't care what anybody tells me it's a franchise quarterback. Oh, yeah. For him to sit down and be like, we fucking there's quarterbacks in the NFL right now that don't do that. And he we we are ass. Yeah. And it real quick, when I saw that clip, I was like, this is AI. I was like, he didn't just say that. And then I went through Twitter and I was like, Oh, he said it.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:15

He's just gonna eat that fun. He said, I'm gonna keep a buck with you, we're ass.

SPEAKER_05 2:08:19

And once I said it, I'm gonna keep it a buck with you, I'm like, oh, it's about to eat it. It's on. It's good.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:24

I w I had to watch that clip on three different certified Twitter stuff. Like, oh. He's just gonna be straight up. Yeah. They're gonna end up with the first overall pick. Yeah. Uh y'all could trade back to like five.

SPEAKER_05 2:08:37

They're gonna have the you're they're gonna have the pick of the litter of any pick they want or the trade back. They also need no lineman. They do. And they also need defensive players because they have none of that. You have one, and they probably need wide receivers because they really don't have any of those. Calvin Ridley is like a halfway decent wide receiver, but he's nowhere near what he was.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:52

He's a good number two.

SPEAKER_05 2:08:53

He's fine.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:53

He's a great number two.

SPEAKER_05 2:08:54

He's just older now.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:55

He is, but again, number two.

SPEAKER_05 2:08:56

But they just they need everything. Yes. And their coach needs to get fired tomorrow. Like he is absolute again, he is the offense coordinator from the Bengals. Hilarious. Another guy doesn't just.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:09

I told you I was like, hey, I was like, he wasn't calling the plays, Zach Taylor was. And I was like, and if he's not good enough to call the plays, he's not good. I was adamant on that one. I was like, I don't know who the fuck that is.

SPEAKER_05 2:09:19

He doesn't it seems like he when he's making his decisions, he doesn't know the rules of football. That's how bad it is.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:24

Because sometimes he's never called plays before. I told you before the start of the season, I was like, hey, that dude has never called an NFL play in his life.

SPEAKER_05 2:09:33

Literally, nobody on that team should be safe other than Cam Ward. That's it. It's him. Oh, sorry.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:39

Calvin Ridley safe. And then Jeffrey uh Simons is safe. Jeffrey Simmons, yeah. Simmons. I keep saying Simons. Yeah. Calvin Ridley's probably fine.

SPEAKER_05 2:09:46

And Simmons is fine. But other than that, nah. Everybody else can go.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:51

Dropping blocks.

Week Picks: Matchups and Leans

SPEAKER_05 2:09:52

Including the coach. But yes, Arizona. Arizona, I think Marv is gonna have a. He dealt with his demons last week with not catching the football. Got the touchdown at the end. I think he's going to eat in this game. He will go crazy. Him and Trey McBride will have an awesome game.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:07

I think they both deserve to be traded to a better team. Yeah, probably. Next game, Tampa Bay at Seattle. I put Tampa Bay.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:12

I'm gonna take Tampa. Mech can't be stopped, by the way. He just he's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:19

I told you something. He's going to be the number one receiver. I told you.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:23

I know. I was still believing in I was still believing in Mike Evans. And then guess what? He got hurt, and it didn't matter. Again, they lost last week because they just did a little bit too little too late. But it wasn't because Mech wasn't doing his thing, but they are losing Bucky Irving this week. That is a problem because he is such a huge weapon for that offense. And I think Seattle does offensively does have a little bit of juice to him, especially with JSN. I don't think Tampa has any way to stop JSN from doing what he wants to do. But I'm going to take Tampa Bay because I just think Baker will fit Baker and Mech will figure it out.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:53

It's crazy how many OSU wide receivers are number one on the team. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:57

It's they're taking over.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:58

Sorry, I like we go through like every two games we're talking about one of them.

SPEAKER_05 2:11:02

Every every time anybody talks about what's the real L real wide receiver you, is it LSU or is it or is it big or is it Ohio State? Okay. The only thing LSU has is they have two top five receivers right now.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:16

Yes, but here's the thing is LSU only does it in Spurts. Yes.

SPEAKER_05 2:11:20

You have um but again, their spurts does get to like the top of the league. I will give them that.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:27

No. Do you have Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase, right? Yeah. Who is it before that? Odell and Jarvis Landry.

SPEAKER_05 2:11:35

And Jarvis. Oh, even Jarvis Landry was like, eh, he's like.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:38

But again, he was always pretty good wherever he was at. Right, yeah, you're not right. He was always getting a thousand yards, but he was a number two receiver. But again, who was in between there?

SPEAKER_05 2:11:47

They have a lot of oh, who Ohio State has been literally, this is like three or four years in a row, putting out multiple first round wide receivers.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:56

But real quick, with LSU, you guys take like a 15 year hiatus every time you produce some receivers. I look at Clemson, I'm like, they've produced more receivers more recently than you have.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:05

Clemson's been on a long doubt, on a long drought. T. Higgins, but T. Higgins has been in the league for six years now.

SPEAKER_00 2:12:11

That's a good report.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:13

Ever since that, they really haven't put out anybody else. So, like again, Ohio State has more guys in the NFL doing their thing. But again, I the only thing LSU has is they have two top the number the top two wide receivers in the NFL.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:25

It does, it does discuss the discussion. That's the only thing. It does discredit you a little bit. It was like, oh, we're wide received. It's like one and two are both LSU.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:30

But again, Ohio State has eight number one wide receivers in the NFL right now. Like they're all number one for their teams. So I'm just like, at some point, we just the tips, the sales are in the tip that way.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:42

This is a good year to do it. Jamar Chase has the quarterback.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:44

And by the way, Jeremiah Smith's gonna be drafted next year.

SPEAKER_02 2:12:47

After next year. Again, this is a great year to do it. Because Carnell Tate's gonna be a first-round pick. Yeah. So this is a great year to tip those sales. Uh, because Jamar Chase is gonna end up probably under under a thousand yards. Yeah, no doubt. That's so unfortunate. And this is paid for so much fucking money. And you're not getting paid yet. Hey Menti. He just started his contract. Jamar Chase hasn't even started his shit yet. Yeah. He's starting getting paid next year.

SPEAKER_05 2:13:13

You still had a chance at a discount this year. Guess what? You're not gonna take advantage of it.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:16

Nope. Can't. Alright, next game. Detroit at Cincinnati. I picked Detroit. I can't ride with Joe Boys this week. Detroit's gonna touch you. So many ways.

SPEAKER_05 2:13:25

It's gonna be gross. I'm gonna bet so many overs on that game. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:28

Everybody getting yards, completions. I bet everything. Um, next game. We have Washington at the Chargers. I picked the Chargers. I don't know. I picked the Chargers only because they were at home. That and that Washington defense is garbage. And with how Quentin Johnson's been playing, real quick.

SPEAKER_05 2:13:48

Washington's defense is not good. True.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:50

I can totally Keenan Allen comes back to the Chargers and they just phase Lad McConkie out of the out of the playbook.

SPEAKER_05 2:13:58

Yeah, Quentin Johnson has, he's come along. No, no, not him. It's Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen as well.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:04

He comes back to the team and Lad McConkie got phased out of the playbook.

SPEAKER_05 2:14:07

Because you know what? Here's the thing with Lad McConkie. He is a if you keep giving him the football, he'll keep producing. But it's just it's so hard to get him the football because he's not running away from nobody.

SPEAKER_02 2:14:19

No. He's a he runs good routes. He gets quick separation.

SPEAKER_05 2:14:23

And you what know what I think? I think the Chargers might be a little bit too in love with pushing the ball down the field now. Because Omarion Hampton was averaging like 12 yards a carry last week, and he only ran the ball like 12 times. So like I just think if you have a running back that is playing as well as he was last week when they were losing against uh the the Giants of all teams, um, and it's just like they kept trying to throw the football around, and I'm sitting there like, oh, this might be a reason as to why they were running the football more than they were passing it last year. And I'm just sitting there like, maybe they just need to find a little bit more balance.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:02

And they should probably have a close to like a 50-50 split.

SPEAKER_05 2:15:05

Yeah, and it's just they've gone so far the other way. I get it. Last year we were begging, like, why are you wasting Herbo?

SPEAKER_02 2:15:12

They're not finding a balance yet, and I think they're getting and now they're going way too far the other way, and it's freaking me out.

SPEAKER_05 2:15:17

I think eventually they're gonna start to find that balance. But yeah, Lab McCaukey has got phased out. Quentin Johnson has like starting to play well, he's catching the football now, and then like you said, adding Keenan Allen, and it's like it's like almost like Lad McCaukey doesn't exist anymore. It will get back to him kind of being more involved in the offense, but it's just they want to push it down the field so much, that's not Lad's game. Lad's game is route, a route monster, and I think against this Washington team, maybe the perfect time to monster and making a guy miss.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:44

Yeah. He's a yak merchant.

SPEAKER_05 2:15:46

Because he's he's a short area quickness guy. Like in a short.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:49

So he makes people miss, and he that's when he gets his big play.

SPEAKER_05 2:15:53

He'll make you miss in a phone booth. Like that's how quick he is in short area. So but Jane Daniels is back though.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:01

Again, I'm going based on the scary Terry. And that Washington defense is horrendous.

SPEAKER_05 2:16:07

I'll take I'll take the Chargers. I'll take the Chargers.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:10

That and the Chargers are at home. Yeah, I'll give you that. You have Buffalo.

SPEAKER_05 2:16:16

Yeah, New England's not good enough. And then you have Kansas City Yeah, I don't trust Jacksonville.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:22

Kansas City dog watched.

SPEAKER_05 2:16:24

Even though I do think Jacksonville's playing better, but it's not offensively. I think defensively is where they're making a little bit of a head. But I just think Kansas City, Patrick Mahomes, they're just playing a lot better football. Um, especially after last week. I just think they're gonna find a little bit of momentum here. I hope I think they win that game. Again, I would hope they lose this game. Again, I told what I said earlier about it may just be Kansas City and the Super Bowl again. It's gonna fucking piss me off. It it's just I'm not gonna lie to you. It's gonna piss me off.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:51

I have very little football to look forward to come December. Come December, football's over for me. Michigan State's done. We probably probably would have played our bowl game. We're not making it, we're not making the playoffs. Yeah. So we're playing our bowl game, and then football's done for me. I have no sports again. And I'm okay with that.

SPEAKER_05 2:17:09

Again, maybe you could just attach yourself onto being a Tampa Bay fan for the year. They'll be in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:14

Real quick, it'd be my luck. I'd attach myself to this team. This team go in a Super Bowl. I'm like, this means nothing to me. Yay! This is empty happiness.

SPEAKER_05 2:17:24

Or you can just go ahead and just start being a Kansas City hater in the playoffs because they're gonna make the playoffs.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:28

You are you think I stopped being a Kansas City players?

SPEAKER_05 2:17:30

I know, no, no, but I'm saying you can like entrench yourself.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:34

No, I'm gonna hate the Bills because I hate the Bills. Oh yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_05 2:17:37

You hate you hate Josh Allen more.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:39

How do I get your life?

SPEAKER_05 2:17:41

What the fuck? Oh my god. He's he's on one right now. It's awesome. You know what's crazy? Herbo's on a good run too. Madison Beer.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:51

Dude, she's not as good as Haley Seinfo. I don't give a fuck. Oh, no, no, no. I don't think so either. I don't like Madison Beer.

SPEAKER_05 2:17:56

I'm not a big Madison Beer guy either, but very it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:00

Haley Seinfo rise with them, Bills. Yeah, you're right. You're not wrong. Even in interviews. They're on the fucking red carpet for the centers. And she's been asking Bill, she asked, she was like a football question. She was like, they asked him, like, oh, what do you think of Kansas City and the Bills? She was like, there's another team besides the Bills. And I was like, And she she's not dumb.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:20

She knows what she's talking about.

SPEAKER_01 2:18:21

She's like Josh Allen. Your life is insane. Yeah. I was like, how do I get that?

SPEAKER_05 2:18:26

Crazy.

SPEAKER_01 2:18:27

Your life's insane. Crazy. Your girl knows about football. Yeah. And is Haley's heart? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:33

I don't know whose life is better. His or freaking Travis Kelsey's.

unknown 2:18:37

His.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:39

I'm just saying, they're both about to take a bag of bones. Well, I'm just talking about the fact that he's married to somebody like she's a billionaire. She's rich. She's a billionaire, dude. Taylor's supposed to have billionaire.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:50

How you rich and you marry somebody richer and be like, I'm set for life.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:55

All you have to do is make sure you don't break her heart and have her write an album about you afterwards. Bro, that's all you have to do.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:00

That's crazy work to me. I'm a multimillionaire. And I married somebody else to get make sure my life's set.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:06

You know what's crazy? This is the last thing before we end this podcast. There is a Taylor Swift Lee released an album like literally yesterday. And apparently there's a song that she made about his dick.

SPEAKER_04 2:19:17

A whole song about his dick. And I'm sitting there like, oh, you just have to not make her unhappy because she's willing to write a song about your dick when she's happy. What is she willing to say? What is she willing to say if you do something wrong? She's gonna ruin you.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:34

Bro, you have set your stuff up for life.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:37

Just don't make her unhappy. Just do your thing.

SPEAKER_02 2:19:39

Just don't fuck it up.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:40

Keep doing the white boy haircuts now, because now you're not black no more. He blackened up for a bit. He was abused with the culture. But now he has the white boy haircuts again, and I'm like, oh, you're gone now. I get it. It's fine. It's who he's with. It's again, he's set. All he has to do is not make her upset, and it's all good.

unknown 2:19:55

He's sad.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:55

No matter what she says, hey, honey, yeah, yeah, it's fine. Because soon enough the football season will be over, and he could just go be a trophy husband.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:01

That's the thing. You're the trophy husband.

SPEAKER_02 2:20:05

How you have real quick, once you were done with football, you were just you were no longer Travis Kelsey. You are Taylor Swift's husband.

SPEAKER_05 2:20:11

And here's the thing when they've been together the last couple years, it's not like he's chiseled. He he's rocking a dad bod for the most part.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:17

Again, he's a strong dad bod, but he's rocking a dad, a little pudgy. She don't care. You get to go be a trophy husband, but doesn't have to worry about looking pri perfect. Just look good enough under the suits, and that's all you all you gotta be.

SPEAKER_05 2:20:30

And you're set for life. Because great, as great as Haley Steinfeld's in her field, she's not she's not Taylor Swift in her field.

SPEAKER_02 2:20:41

No one's set like Jared Goff, but you know.

SPEAKER_05 2:20:44

Jared Goff too, but he's the breadwinner. Like it's not like he's but again, he's made he's making enough money, it's all good. It's fine. He's be good. No one's set like heavies. The heavies be going crazy.

SPEAKER_00 2:20:59

No one's set like Jared Goff.

SPEAKER_05 2:21:00

No, yeah, for sure. For sure. That's that maybe the only downside. Little couple screw, couple bolts up there not working right. But again, it's good enough. It's right there. It's not like Jared Goff. Nobody's set. Nobody's selling like Jared. Alright, we gotta stop. We gotta stop. We're going too far. Alright, guys, we're gonna get the podcast here before we go too far. If you listen for a while, we appreciate you. If you're just not joining on, hopefully you'll like us and enjoy us enough. Join us on this ride of talking about sports in the dumbest way possible. If you could do a couple things for us, we would definitely love if you could like our podcast, subscribe to the podcast, rate the podcast five stars wherever you listen to us. We're pretty much available on all audio platforms out there. Um make sure you share us, share us with friends, family, enemies, anybody you feel like could enjoy our podcast on a weekly basis, a couple times a week during football season. We'd love if you could do that. And then last but not least, if you could uh follow us on Twitter and our ex, whatever you'd like to call us, call it at JV Sports Pod is the podcast handle, at Javante Boozer is my handle, at Jace Boozer1 is Jace's handle, and I will hand it over to Jay so you can finish off the pod.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:04

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SPEAKER_05 2:22:11

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