We came for picks, stayed for yelling at Joe Flacco

A wreck, a warning, and a week that needed normal—so we sat down and told the truth. The Yankees didn’t lose because of Aaron Judge; they lost because a contender acted like a spreadsheet. We dig into Judge’s October, Boone’s decisions, Volpe’s bat vs glove, and the bigger question New York keeps dodging: are you willing to spend like you mean it while a generational MVP is in his prime?

From there, it’s a full tour through a spicy college football slate. Ohio State’s offense vs Illinois discipline. Alabama–Missouri in a point race with the game possibly decided by the last clean mistake. UCLA crossing time zones to face Michigan State and the reality of travel tax. Indiana’s prove-it trip to Oregon—no one needs an upset, they need respect. Red River turns on Texas’s lines and an unvarnished look at Arch Manning’s development curve. We talk buyouts, NIL math, and why Penn State’s problem is as financial as it is on-field. Georgia’s search for identity, Florida’s volatility against A&M’s leaky defense, and Michigan–USC as a collision between a soft secondary and a soft front.

Then the NFL hits like a cold shower. No Lamar, no plan in Baltimore. A pylon “dummy tax” turns into a culture conversation. The Bengals’ vent is raw:

Chapters

• 0:00 Opening, Recap Of A Wild Week
• 1:02 Yankees’ Postseason Autopsy
• 6:11 Judge’s Legacy And Roster Fixes
• 11:45 College Football Slate: Friday Into Saturday
• 13:06 Ohio State–Illinois, Alabama–Missouri
• 17:42 UCLA–Michigan State, Travel Effects
• 22:21 Ole Miss–Washington State And Scheduling Rants
• 24:06 Indiana’s Prove-It Trip To Oregon
• 28:45 Red River Stakes: Oklahoma–Texas And Arch
• 34:48 Penn State Pressure Cooker And NIL Math
• 39:24 SEC Check-In: Florida–A&M, Georgia–Auburn
• 44:24 Michigan–USC Matchup And WR Issues
• 52:12 LSU–South Carolina And Saturday Wrap
• 54:24 NFL Headlines: Injuries, QB Changes, Sideline Fire
• 1:03:20 Bengals Venting: Front Office, Scheme, And Trades
• 1:19:20 Giants Top Eagles: Dart, Scadboo, And Culture
• 1:28:40 Roster Fits, Trades, And Defensive Lines
• 1:35:12 NFL Week Picks: Game-By-Game Run

Transcript

SPEAKER_02: 0:09

Welcome back to James Host Podcast. Today's Friday, October the 10th. We're back another podcast.

SPEAKER_03: 0:14

We're back. Both of us here, ready to go. Do everything we need to do. Doing college football, um, NFL football, making picks, doing everything as a such. Um, yeah. I I do when I do it by myself, I get I get the job done. I do my thing. I go way too long, but you know, I still have fun doing it. But can't really quite um replace the back and forth nature of what we do. So definitely happy to have you back. We're good to go. Jace has had a lot like a crazy last couple days. Car wrecks, getting pulled over by the cop, being let go. It's a whole thing. So I'm glad we get to have a little bit of normalcy in coming in here talking about some sports and uh doing it the way we do it. So without further ado, let's go and get to the stuff. The Yankees, I just want to give did you have any thoughts on how the you know finally just splat in the face? I think the only my only prevailing thought about the Yankees at all is that I don't think anybody can come out of like how this Yankees postseason went and say it was Judge's fault. Judge showed up. He hit, he did everything he had to do, he had his big moment in that game three against against the Blue Jays, where he hit the three-run dinger, like to tie the game up, and then they end up winning that game. I think that's the only thing I can take out of all this because I think the Aaron Boone sucks as a manager. I've never seen him make a move and like said, oh, that's a good idea. I think he is pretty much like a mouthpiece for the stat guys that are up in the front office because I don't think he actually does anything on his own accord other than making pitching staff changes, and I think even that he just picks the totally wrong things to do at the totally wrong times.

SPEAKER_02: 1:59

I agree.

SPEAKER_03: 2:00

But I just think I'm not gonna sit here and say Judge like totally wiped out any concerns about his postseason play because when he did his biggest stuff was only in the division series, it wasn't in the in the um championship series or in the world series. But I think to a certain degree, I nobody can be mad at Judge coming out of this because he did what he was supposed to do. He hit, he had a great OBS, he had his big moment with the home run, he made his defensive plays, like he did everything he was supposed to do. I think Volpe is like a real problem when it comes to at the plate. He was awful. I think he was like one for like 20 something at the plate, even though defensively he was awesome. But I just think that whether it's through the minor league system, you have to have somebody else that can give you a little bit more balance either both offensively and defensively, or just tell Volpe, hey, if you don't get better, we have somebody else to challenge you, like to make you have to. Like there's no way Volpe can go into next year and just saying he's our automatic shortstop, no questions asked. I just think that's something that you're gonna have to challenge on because I'm just like he had he was not good enough, he's not good enough offensively on a week in, week out basis, to just be penciled, be put in pen that he is that permanent marker, that he's that dude at that position. So and then I think the Yankees need to get their shit together, and I know they're not the Dodgers, I know they're scared to be the Dodgers because the Dodgers get to do all the salary cap rules that they're doing with Otani and some of their players being willing to take their money 20 years down the road. But I think if you want to be that team to win again, you have to adopt the George Steinbrenner, like, hey, we're out to good wit win the suit win the World Series every year, and if we don't, it's a failure. And guess what that means? You have to spend your fucking money and don't sit there and be like, oh, we're gonna not spend or not get like go balls to the wall because for what Judge is, which is like an a yearly MVP candidate, you have that for another three, four, or five years of him playing at this level, and then you're gonna be gone having to go to somebody else. So I think you need to make good on what Judge is right now as a player, put a team around him that actually compliments what he does best, and go out and win a World Series before his prime is up. Because if you if you have this player at this playing at this level and you don't go win a World Series, it was a waste. It's a waste. It's a fucking waste of all the money that you're scared to spend, and it's a waste of all the money that like all the money that he is not just he is making, but all the money that's being put into that team because like you have that player, and I think you have I think by next year when you have um um why am I forgetting or pitch getting Garrett Cole back and then you have Schlitler and you have the guys you already have in this roster, Radone, and um like you have real a really good starting pitching once you have your main guy back. So I just think with all that, if I just think the I think the thing is spend spunk spend money, go get your guys, and go ball slow all next year and do that for the next few years to try to make worth make um make it worth it having a guy playing at that level and judge. That's it. I'm not not gonna be too angry, nothing like that. It's just more of the same, so there's no reason to be all upset. So that's it on that. You have you disagree at all with anything I said at all?

SPEAKER_02: 5:25

No, I think it's perfectly reasonable. I'm getting tired of seeing us lose to a team that's not as good as us.

SPEAKER_03: 5:30

It's just they I you know what's crazy? I think the I think Toronto is better than us. They shat all over us. But it should not have been that big of a difference. It shouldn't have been. It really like our offensive output was nowhere near where it needed to be. And I think because of like it just made it look that much worse. I think talent-wise, I don't think that they're a much better team than we are. But otherwise, I just think that it's it's just it's a problem. It's a problem that the Yankees are are getting treated like that in the in in the postseason. So that's all I got on that. Let's go ahead and get to the next thing here. Let's go ahead and preview college football. Um, what's coming up tomorrow? I think we do have a game today that's really worth something. Rutgers and Washington coming on in a couple hours. But it's probably gonna be Washington and wins that game. But other than that, nothing really I care about. Um let's go ahead and go on to the Saturday slate. Um, let's I'm just gonna do it in order by what time they come on because that's kind of how it's listed here. So Ohio State, Illinois, uh, number one, Ohio State going to number 17 Illinois. I think this is only a question of if Ohio State offensively can keep what they started last week going. They're giving Julian Sand more and more of the of trust and they're letting him throw the football around. And I think Illinois as a team, I think they're a little bit better defensively than what um than what Minnesota had last week, but I don't think they're much better than that. And I have no question as to what Ohio State's defense is, it, but I do have some type, I do have some faith, not faith, but I have healthy respect for Illinois. Luke Altmeyer, their quarterback, is a guy that's been playing a lot of college football. He knows what he's doing. They have some weapons on the outside, but I think the Ohio State defense is more than good enough to, I'm not gonna sit here and say that they're I think the last two games they haven't given up, given up a touchdown. I don't think they're gonna stay at that clip against this Illinois team. I'd be very happy if they did, um, but I'm not gonna sit here and guarantee that. But I do think that the defense will be able to put up, keep putting up very good numbers and keep Illinois from scoring too many points. And I think with that, can Ohio State's offense keep up the thing? Because I don't think Illinois' deep Illinois defensively really has anything for Ohio State with all the weapons that we have, as long as we get to keep getting the ball to Jeremiah Smith and Carnell Tate and let Bo Jackson go out and were there run the football. I think we should have win this game pretty handily. I think it's like a 14-point spread. I think we should be able to cover that. Next game, Alabama, Missouri. Um I think this game could be. If Alabama can't stop the run for Missouri, I think this game will come down to who has the ball last and who makes the least amount of mistakes. And I think I probably lean towards Alabama. Um, but I think Missouri, if they do win this game, can make a big statement and kind of pronounce themselves as a real legit contender in the SEC. Next game will go to UCLA at Michigan State. UCLA is coming off of their big win against um Penn State. Michigan State's coming off a bye, I think. They were on bye last time. UCLA does have to come all the way to Michigan State, so you do have that factor of teams that have to move multiple time zones going across the country to play. Game hasn't gone well for the team that has to the team that's uh traveling has not won any of these games, probably other than Ohio State going out to Washington. So I don't think I don't think UCLA is gonna win this game at all. I think Michigan State's gonna win. I think UCLA had one very magical day with Penn State playing as badly as they did, kind of like a mixture of that together to kind of like make the big upset that they were able to get against Penn State. I don't think that Michigan State's gonna have that same sort of problem. I think Nico was able to run the football very effectively against that Penn State defense. I think Michigan State will see that and will have a spy ready to go. Whether they're gonna be able to stop Nico from doing from being able to run is something that I have that has to be yet to be seen. But I think they'll do a little bit better job than what Penn State did. So I think it'll be a good game. I don't think you think so. What?

SPEAKER_02: 10:07

I don't think we'll do a better job than what Penn State did. It'll be far fucking worse. Their defense is better than ours by a fucking mile.

SPEAKER_03: 10:14

But I think offensively, I think you have a better, I think your offense is a lot better than Penn State's. I agree. In consistency. Because Penn State, when they open it up, literally the last few the last quarter against Oregon, and then the last second half against UCLA was the only times you really saw their offense really open up. But I think that other than that, Penn State doesn't have any sort of identity offensively. But I do think Michigan State does. They play some big boy football, they try to run the football, they do a lot of uh play action, and I do think you guys rely on just I think defensively you're worse, so I'm not gonna sit here and say your defense is better than Penn State's, which I'm not gonna say so. But I think that UCLA will not be coming across the country and like sneaking up on you. Everybody saw what UCLA did, so I think Michigan State's gonna take them seriously. And as long as Aiden Childs is healthy, which is something that has been a question over the last couple weeks, is whether he'll be able to come out, be fully fully ready to go. But as long as that's the case, I do think Michigan State can win that game. Um, let's go on to the next game here. Um let's go with Washington State Ole Miss. I don't know why this matchup's ever happening. Ole Miss should be able to destroy this Washington State team without any issue. If I think I heard this on some other podcasts, is that if Ole Miss loses this game to a Pac-12 team, you should be barred from the from getting to the playoff not only in this year, but the next year. Because of because why? Why are you packed 12 teams out of them? They don't have no talent. Like, what, like, why? Why would you even schedule this game, let alone like have like if you lose to them, you should get barred from the playoff for two years. Like, I totally agree because it's just a weird game to be scheduling. It's just for especially for Ole Miss. Um, next game, Indiana, number seven, Indiana going to number three, Oregon. This is going the other way again. And um a team in the middle of the Midwest having to go across two time zones to go play, go play Oregon. This is a very similar spot to what Indiana faced last year. Indiana was rolling, they were playing very good football, they were scoring a ton of points, and everybody was thinking that Indiana was legit. All up until they went and faced the first big boy they had to face in Ohio State last year. They got blown out, and Kurt Signetti, their head coach, was trying to make the game look better by getting the points at the very end to try to cover the spread. And then everybody considered them frauds, and then they went and did it again against uh Notre Dame in the playoff. Now they're coming into this year. They have a better quarterback for Nino Mendoza, one of the best playing quarterbacks in the college ball right now. And they look like they have a better team. Their wide receivers are more um seasoned and they came back and they're playing a lot better. Their defense is playing better ball, but now this is the same opportunity coming again. Can they go to Oregon? Nobody's really saying they're gonna beat Oregon, but can they go and not get embarrassed? Because I think everybody believes that Oregon is a top three team in all of college football. So that is the question for Indiana's. Can they prove that they are a team being in the upper echelon of college football? And for Oregon, I think that nobody has challenged Oregon offensively because Dante Moore is playing very good football as their as their QB. But I think they have one very good wide receiver in DeCorian Moore, and then the rest is a big question. They do have a really good tight end um in Sadiq, I believe is his name. But I think offensively they do, if you have a defense that can challenge those wide receivers one-on-one and limit DeCorian Moore, what will Oregon look like? Um, but I think otherwise, I think, and I think Oregon's defense is not necessarily locked down. So what will they do against an Indiana team that is a lot more um consistent offensively? I think is going to be the question for Oregon. But I do think Oregon should win this game. I think they're seven-point favorites. Um, but I think that'll be a very good game that'll come out as long as Indiana doesn't get blown out. I think they can prove that they are a team worth people's time throughout the rest of the season. Um, because I think they faced Penn State a couple weeks later. So they have a really big gauntlet coming. Oklahoma going to Texas, red uh Red River shootout is what they call it, you know, before they started trying to make it a rivalry, but I don't like saying it because it's harder to say. Oklahoma, will they, won't they have their quarterback in John Mateer? Is the question. He's coming back from the hand surgery that he had. They're saying that he might play. Some are saying that he won't. I'm not going to put any stock into either one. Texas is coming off of their bad loss to Florida. Can they play any? Their defense got beat up badly. Like their defense was like the main thing for that team that was like, hey, if nothing else, we can rely on our defense. And guess what? Florida went out and did. Florida went out and exposed them. They threw for a couple hundred yards, they were able to run the football, and Texas was getting beat at the point of attack on both their offensive and defensive lines. Less of a surprise on the offensive line, because Texas offensive line has been awful all year. Defensive line, like that was supposed to be their strength, and it wasn't that. So can Texas come off coming off their loss against Florida last week, where Arch made a couple big plays, but it wasn't enough, wasn't consistent enough. Can Texas turn it around against this Oklahoma team? Real quick.

SPEAKER_02: 15:31

He stays in college football for another year. Oh, yeah, no question. That's a guarantee. That's a guarantee. No.

SPEAKER_03: 15:38

There is nothing that he has shown this year. To say he's NFO ready. To say he's NFO ready. And I think the narrative has totally changed. Everybody was all in on the manning coming into the year. And then now everybody thinks he's trash. So now he's gonna have to take a decent amount of time to now disprove that if he's going to at all. Because I think he's a part of the problem. Yes, I don't think they have the same wide receiver talent that they've had in past years. Their offensive line is an absolute mess. It is a travesty. But I think to a certain degree, even if you that is all the case, you still have the talent of Texas. And as bad as it can be, they are still talented players on that team. It's still Texas. Yes, and Arch Manning should be able to show flashes of that player if that player is truly in there, right? If that top not uh top five pick, draft pick type of player is in there, he should be able to show that. And that has not come out at all. So even if he turns it around tomorrow and then tears up the rest of the season, I just don't think obviously I just don't think that's gonna happen. But even still, that's not nobody's gonna recommend it. Right, exactly. So I think he'll probably play at Texas for another year. But here's my problem if things keep going badly like this, the thing about Texas is they're they're always bringing in new quarterbacks. So what if they bring in a new guy next year that actually comes in and is bet much better than Arch? And again, I think that's a very, very big stretch because I think Sarkeesian, I think the Manning family has Sarkeesian's soul in their hands because I don't think that he was able to get Arch to come there without having some real conversation with the family that is the Mannings, and I think that they have some real power in this situation. So it would have to take a player coming in at the quarterback position to really blow out Arch in order for him to take for him to take Arch off of being from being their starter. So I think that but that is something that can happen. It happened to freaking um Um Spencer Rattler when he was at Oklahoma and Caleb Williams was coming right in behind him. Caleb Williams had one opportunity and took the job and never gave it back. So I'm not gonna sit here and say that there's that's not something that can happen at Texas because Texas is a top five recruiting team every year and they get one of the top quarterbacks because that's just what they do. So but getting back to what happens tomorrow, even with Oklahoma potentially not having their quarterback, but I do think with their strengths is at their defensive line and at their offensive line, and I think that's the weak weaknesses that Texas has at both of those spots. So with that, I think Oklahoma probably wins the game because I just don't think Arch can put anything together consistently enough to go out there and win that game. I agree. Um, next game. Let's see. If Penn State, Northwestern's going to Penn State, if Penn State loses that game, I think they will have James Franklin's head on a stake on a on a stake by the end of it. I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_02: 18:38

I don't know how they don't have James Franklin's head on a stake already. Uh how do you have a coach that consistently underperforms against the best teams in his own conference proceeds to lose to a team that is nowhere near as good as you actually.

SPEAKER_03: 18:48

They were a 25-point favorite in that game against UCLA. It was bad.

SPEAKER_02: 18:52

So you do nothing, you win nothing, and you lose to teams that aren't as good as you. Why are you still here?

SPEAKER_03: 18:57

Yeah, he finally did the one thing because if nothing else for James Franklin over his time as the Penn State coach, he hasn't he's beaten up the teams they should beat. Yes. But now that he's lost to a team that they should totally beat up. Now there's a real issue there. But I think the only thing keeping them from firing him, he has a very big buyout. And because teams now have to pay players and up to$20 million of your roster, you have to pay them money. So I think with that, it's going to be very hard to ask your boosters to write the check to not only fire James Franklin to not coach fire him and pay him his buyout money to not coach there anymore, and then also pay the roster that you have to keep in order for the new head coach coming in to be able to succeed. So I think that's the problem. I think the money has gotten a lot more complicated now with NIL and everything. But I I like you totally agree. But here's my thing. If we are the fans of our teams that we are, I want James Franklin to stay. Go ahead, sign him and get him another extension, get him an even bigger buyout. I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_02: 19:59

You're not wrong. I don't give a fuck. If there's anything I know that can that happens more often than not, Michigan State can beat Penn State.

SPEAKER_03: 20:05

And he's not beating Ohio State. So I just think they'll have they'll have so much hype. They'll have so much hype every year and they'll falter to the big boys that they need to face. And guess what? My team is one of the big boys. And uh, and if he's gonna start adding the new added feature of losing to the teams that he should beat, I'll be more than happy to let him stick around. So I'm not sitting here saying that I want him fired. I want him to stay. But if I was a Penn State fan, I would want him fired because he's not really good at doing his job. And he is starting, he's starting to add very bad features that nobody really wants as a Penn State fan. Um next, we got don't really care about that game. Florida going to Tech S A M. Florida, Florida coming off the big win against Texas, Tech S M coming off of their win against Mississippi State. Tech AM tech actually is a top five um ranked team and all in the AP poll. Again, the AP poll sucks, but I'm not gonna go down that road. But can Florida kind of start putting some of these wins together? They beat Texas last week. Again, I'm not saying Texas, Tech AM right now. I think AM is a lot better team. Their defense is pretty bad, though. So if Florida really did figure something out offensively last week against Texas, they're gonna come in to a and go play a Texas AM team that their defense is even worse. So I think this game, this game could be a you know one where they score a decent amount of points if Florida's gonna be more consistent and play better offensively with DJ Lagway at the quarterback position, but I'm not gonna sit here and think that's really gonna happen on a week in, week out basis. So I think Tech Sanim should win the game, but I think even they are very inconsistent as well offensively with Marcel Reed. So it could go either way. I could totally see either team winning, but I do kind of lean Tech Sanim. I Georgia Auburn, Georgia should win this game. They've kind of fallen off the map. They're ranked like 10 in the AP poll, which is like the it's been a while since Georgia's been ranked that low, especially with the couple losses that they already have on the they have one loss or two losses? They have one loss. Um they have the one loss they had against Alabama earlier this year has pretty much taken them off the map. Can Georgia kind of put themselves back together and kind of like start stacking wins going towards the end of the season and kind of you know get have a chance to win the SEC, get to the playoff and do all that is a big question. Auburn is absolutely putrid offensively. They should not win this game whatsoever. But I just think Georgia offensively is so inconsistent. I think defensively they kind of let up a decent amount in the run game, and I think the only thing Auburn can do is run the football. So can Georgia keep Auburn, keep Auburn's run game down enough to make them have to throw the football, which is what they're terrible at, is the big question. But I do think Georgia should probably win this game. Number 15, Michigan, going to USC. They lose to USC.

SPEAKER_02: 22:56

I don't give a fuck what anybody says to me. Dude, real quick, we are we know a Michigan fan that we've known for a very, very long time. Yeah. If motherfucker's like, yeah, we're not we're gonna beat USC, and I'm like, no, you're not. USC is gonna slap you because your defense is horrendous. I hope so. Michigan State's defense is bad.

SPEAKER_03: 23:13

No, theirs is downright terrible. Michigan's defensive line is good. Their secondary sucks.

SPEAKER_02: 23:21

Wait, but their defensive line is good. They're not great, they're good. Right. I want you to know that quarterback is going to dice them the fuck up because he is very fucking good at that. And their goddamn secondary is one of the you go, you look like the fucking bangles out there, how bad y'all secondary is. That secondary is terrible. All of them need to go to a fucking JUCO so they know what struggle really is, because that's what it feels like watching that fucking secondary.

SPEAKER_03: 23:46

Right. They are bad. Bad. Okay, but here's my qu I'm you're making me make the other make make the other case. USC can't stop the run to save their goddamn lives. Uh-huh. And if Michigan can establish the run game with Underwood, with their running- I'm figuring the running back's name, but with their very good running back, that's like one of the. Very, very good. Very good. Justice Haynes, that's his name. Um, I can't believe I remember his name off the top of my head. Um, if they can establish the running game and run down USC's throat, I don't think they have the fight to stop it. And if they if Michigan can do that, they can control the game and be able to throw off a play action to help out Underwood. I think that's the avenue to win. Because I think that's great.

SPEAKER_02: 24:30

That's great now. But USC should throw away. Here is the thing that's the problem. For that to work, that means the receivers also have to catch the ball. That is true. Yes, and when not just the receivers can't catch the ball, their tight end can't catch that motherfucker neither.

SPEAKER_03: 24:44

Their tight end is good.

SPEAKER_02: 24:47

He wasn't good last week when I watched him drop the football. That was a dot. Okay. It was a dot. It's his came straight out of Sante's mouth, too. That was a dot of a football. He had three drops in that game. Yeah. He is very good. Michigan produces very good tight ends. Yeah. He dropped three passes last week. They make Bryce Under look woo Bryce Underwood look bad. Bryce Underwood is 18 years old.

SPEAKER_03: 25:10

He is a talent, he is a talented player, but he is trying to.

SPEAKER_02: 25:14

I'm trying to make the team. He's trying to swim.

SPEAKER_03: 25:16

He's trying to swim.

SPEAKER_02: 25:18

And he's drowning, because they are drowning him.

SPEAKER_03: 25:19

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 25:20

But again, by his junior year, he'll be a fucking hype. He'll be very good. He'll be up in the hypner conversation.

SPEAKER_03: 25:26

If they can get him weapons.

SPEAKER_02: 25:27

I agree, and that's what I told him. I was like, hey, if you don't have weapons by his sophomore year, if y'all don't bring in nobody, he is not staying for his junior year.

SPEAKER_03: 25:33

I totally believe that.

SPEAKER_02: 25:34

I was like, he will be gone. I was like, a team like Michigan State brought in a guy like Nick Marsh who was top 10 in his class.

SPEAKER_03: 25:42

And they recruited him.

SPEAKER_02: 25:43

They recruited him.

SPEAKER_03: 25:44

They did not pay him a bunch of NIO money.

SPEAKER_02: 25:45

Nick Marsh was top 10 in his class. Yeah. I was like, y'all didn't get a single person from that class. I was like, so if a team like Michigan State, who's supposed to be worse than you, is able to get a dude like Nick Marsh, and Nick Marsh is that boy. He is that fucking good. He is that good.

SPEAKER_03: 26:00

Not only was he very talented coming in, but he has he has developed and he has a good thing.

SPEAKER_02: 26:06

He's second to one person. You know that one person is? Fucking Jeremiah Smith. It's okay to be second to him. They compared him to Calvin Johnson. That's crazy. That's crazy work. That motherfucker went to Georgia Tech. That's a fucking they won. They won. They ran a fucking veer offense.

SPEAKER_03: 26:21

Yeah, triple option. Again.

SPEAKER_02: 26:24

But again, he is that fucking good.

SPEAKER_03: 26:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 26:26

He puts up numbers.

SPEAKER_03: 26:28

Yes, he does.

SPEAKER_02: 26:28

And that boy is a first-round draft pick. His junior year.

SPEAKER_03: 26:32

There'll be a lot of wide receivers that year. It'll be a very hard year to be a first round draft pick.

SPEAKER_02: 26:36

Again, when I'm second to Jeremiah Smith.

SPEAKER_03: 26:39

Yeah. No, I agree.

SPEAKER_02: 26:41

I'm not saying again, his numbers won't look as good as Jeremiah Smith. No, of course. My team's not as good as OSU. Right. But I pray to God he stays he stays one more year. Stay here one more year.

SPEAKER_03: 26:51

Oh, yeah, you get hopefully we'll get him for his junior year. Hopefully he doesn't try to go to transfer somewhere else.

SPEAKER_02: 26:55

I doubt it. They will give him as much money as you fucking need. Because Aiden Giles is getting better.

SPEAKER_03: 26:59

Yeah, he is.

SPEAKER_02: 27:00

He's getting better.

SPEAKER_03: 27:01

He is.

SPEAKER_02: 27:02

Will he be a top five quarterback in the Big Ten next year? I believe he could be.

SPEAKER_03: 27:06

Yeah, that's an option.

SPEAKER_02: 27:07

He's getting better.

SPEAKER_03: 27:08

Yes, he is.

SPEAKER_02: 27:09

He's not draftable better.

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Somebody will get could get attached to his tools. But not right now. Nobody would draft him at this point.

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So Brown's. We'll talk about that one later.

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They know how to get rid of a quarterback.

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Out of everything that's had to me this week, that's the worst thing. Yeah, I know. Real quick, that was the catalyst. That's what broke the camel back, and then everything sort of falling out from me. Um but again, I just that Michigan defense is horrendous. Your receivers. I believe one of them is good.

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Yeah. Corno. Nope. It's Corley or something like that.

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I believe he's good. Yes. I believe he's good. But he's still inconsistent. Feet for hands.

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Donovan McCulley.

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Yes, he has feet for hands. You can catch a football with feet for hands, but it's very hard, and he makes it look very fucking hard.

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Yes, he does. Yeah.

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And I'm not gonna let y'all slide on that.

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I again I just I just don't I I feel very uncomfortable relying on USC to do anything correctly. I agree. That's my only problem. But I do think they will, Jaden Maiava, their quarterback, will be able to throw the football over. Their whole game plan should be to throw to the outside and let their wide receivers go make plays.

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Their receivers are pretty good in their first.

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The one wide receiver they have, uh Makai Lemon. Lemon, yeah. He's unhe's like every week. He's very small, but he's fast, and he just knows how to get open. It's kind of like he's a better Zay Flowers. He's like Puka Nakua to a certain degree. Like he just knows where to get to the ball and get open.

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He just reminds me of his A Flowers. Of he's fast, speedy, but he actually can get separation. Exactly.

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So I just think if they get the ball to the outside and make Michigan have to go and tackle, I think that'll be the way to try to win the football game, especially with Michigan having to go across the country to go face USC.

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Believe me, Michigan corners can't tackle Axe Daxo. Um sorry. I'm I really hate the Bengals. Uh but yeah, I I believe USC does win this game.

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I hope so. I really do.

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It doesn't help they have to go across country.

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Yeah, Michigan does have to go all the across all the way across country to play USC. Um but yeah, I hope it, but I just I feel if you rely on USC to do anything correctly. Um last one is LSU South Carolina, South Carolina going to LSU. LSU has just offensively looked very bad this year. Can they get any sort of they can they get better at all is my biggest question. I'm not very confident in that. South Carolina has been an up and down team all year. And I've had that for a minute, I think. But you know. Um, but yeah, it's just very inconsistent. Don't believe in it. I think LSU should be able to win the football game, but uh LSU just made everything look difficult this year. So I it's gonna be a disgusting game to watch, but I will be watching it. I'll be watching the game cast, not necessarily watching the game because I think there'll be other games to watch at that time. That'll be a Little bit more enjoyable. And that's all I got on that. So those are the games. I don't think there was any big reports that I had to talk about. Not for college football. So let's go ahead and go to the NFL. Before we get to anything, just story-wise, Lamar is ruled out. Will not play this week when they go and face uh the Rams. That'll be a problem because I weren't gonna pick him.

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I wasn't gonna pick him anyway.

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I wasn't either. Um Mac Jones is gonna start again this year this week for the 49ers. Clearly, it doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. I think, to be honest, I think Mac Jones has given Shanahan a little bit of the good feels on the inside because he does exactly what he says. Follow those directions. Exactly. So I think that, and Pearsall, Ricky Pearsall is not gonna be playing for them, so that'll be an issue when they play against Tampa Bay. Other than Chris McCaffrey. That's pretty much it. Chris McCaffrey and then a bunch of dudes. Um let's see. Shador Sanders will be the number two quarterback with Gabriel being the starter. Finals. Which is a problem because earlier this week, um Stefansky was saying he was still gonna be third, even with them trading away Mr. Joe Flacco.

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Real quick. He's just not NFL ready, right?

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Or they truly do not want the owner to be right about drafting Shador Sanders because I think that was an owner idea.

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I told you, I was like, you were like, no, I don't think they'd risk their jobs for this. And I'm looking at him like, they have to be.

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If they were gonna try to make him the number three this earlier this week when they just traded away Joe Flacco.

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Bailey fucking zappi from the practice squad. Is it a big I'm Shador? I'm tweaking the fuck out. I'm tweaking. I'm tweaking. No, I'm sorry, Joe. I'm sorry. They're risking their jobs for this shit. They're lucky, Gabriel looked good last week.

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He I'm not gonna say good, but he didn't look bad. He wasn't bad.

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For what he is, he looked good. You are a slower with a worse arm, Kyler Murray. Yeah.

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No, I can agree with that.

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He looked good. Quince on Juncks did a lot of the work.

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They just keep giving the ball to him, man. He can run. He's elite. Again, I obviously I saw him as a buckeye, so I'm not surprised. But he's very good. Very good. But yeah, Sanders will be the number two, so he's one step closer to potentially getting out on the field. Um, you got Brock Bowers will miss a second game with the knee injury. And so that'll be as long as he comes back at some point. It doesn't really matter. These the Raiders are losing games anyway.

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They're playing Tennessee.

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If they can't beat Tennessee, just say Gino's career is over. Because I just think that it's not going to get any better now. If they can't go beat Tennessee, my nigga.

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I already know I already knew what better.

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Arizona just beat, just got lost to Tennessee. So anything's possible at this point.

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Yeah, Arizona's bad though.

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Again, they are one of those teams that looks good one half, and then the next half they can't do shit. I don't know what happens. We'll get to that. We'll get to the whole coach thing. Like the Demarcado thing when he when he uh was going across the end zone, dropped the ball before he got there, coach got sm gets mad at him and hits him in the chest, and somebody got it on video. Again, did I actually think it was the actual hits were that bad? I don't think so. He does have a little bit of the race thing with the white coach hitting the black player. A little bit iffy, but again, these are professionals.

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That's a grown fucking man.

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Right. I would hope that you don't do that in public. You are dealing with grown men, so you would think, like, hey, if you really don't like what he did, you can just drop him tomorrow and go get another running back. But he decided to kind of lose his shit on the sideline, even though I think it was a touchdown. Am I crazy? I agree. I thought it was a touchdown.

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I was confused for why they were reviewing it and why they were looking at it. I'm like, that was a touchdown.

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I'm like, they tried they that was a stretch to try to go ahead and review that in the first place. And then when they did review it, I'm like, man, it's it's that was a touchdown. I thought it was a touchdown, but I do get the idea that if it's that fucking close, you have to pay the dummy tax for being the idiot that dropped the dummy. You do! You do have dummy tax.

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I am not gonna fault you for feeling it, digging that away. That was your fucking fault. We never had to look at it. All you had to do was hold the ball a second and a half longer.

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Not even a second.

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Touchdown, dude. That's your fault. Again, dummy tax is a good way to say it. You gotta pay the piper. That was your fault.

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But it's I thought it was a touchdown, though. I'm on the fence on this. I really am.

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I wholeheartedly fucking agree. That was a touchdown, but now that you said dummy tax, that's a no, no, that's your fucking fault. That's my whole motherfucker. That was a touchdown. All you gotta do is hold the bitch.

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Yeah, just hold it.

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Just walk into the intel. Just walk into the end zone.

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Hold it in spite of football. Do your dance, all you need to do. But you tried to do the cool thing. Throw the football away as you're going to get into your. If you do this, you're cut. So you gotta pay the dummy tax if you do it to make it close at all. So, but I do think it was a touchdown, though. I agree. But it was a weird situation, and the coach did lose his shit on the sideline though.

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I would have, real quick, I don't fault him. I saw the I know what clip you're talking about on Twitter. I would have whooped his ass. I would have beat your ass on the sideline. Uh you better not even come close to me, motherfucker, because you are not our starting running back.

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You mean nothing? That's the thing. He's not supposed to be anywhere near the field, but they kept losing dudes. Exactly.

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So that's the thing. I'm gonna fuck you up and not lose my job. I promise you.

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He did lose 100k, though. Fuck that 100k. That's a lot of movies.

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You just lost a game because your dumb ass.

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Again, they did have more opportunities after that to win the football game.

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It did not help. One bad flow of movement in the NFL shifts the game.

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Yeah. Nope.

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And that was their fuck up. I would have walked his ass on the sideline. I will you, dude, I would have been sitting there straight punching a helmet. I don't give a fuck. Uh, dude, I'm gonna give this motherfucker CTE. I don't give a fuck.

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It was bad. It was a very bad play. It should not have even been that close. Dude! Just get the ball across the goal line, man. It's not that hard. Again, but here's the thing. We say that, but it's happened so many times in the NFL.

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But here's the thing it's a whole fucking job.

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Score the touchdown. Get it across. That's it. Just boom. Get it across the end zone. You're good to go. But apparently, some dudes just need to learn the lesson the hard way. And he absolutely did that day. No question. Um, but yeah, that's it on the stories. That's all I got.

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I'm surprised A. Mitchell has a job. Now I'm surprised he has a fucking job.

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He's very talented, but he's not consistent enough.

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Go be talented somewhere else.

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I can give A.D. Mitchell his his credit that it did just slip out of his hand. He wasn't playing around with it. He was actually trying to reach across. He was running across and he's just reaching the ball across and it just slipped out of his hand. But if you don't have small, if you have small hands, the ball's gonna slip out of your hand if you try to go one-handed. Keep it, keep it in the pocket until you get to the end zone.

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Until you were close to the ground.

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No, I no. Here's the thing. He was running. He was by himself. He was running free into the end zone. Again, not as bad as it as the demarcado for the Cardinals, where he just tried to do the foot, the foot flip thing with the football. But still, very bad situation. Make sure it doesn't happen. I think there'll be a lot of teams that are like, hey, this has happened twice over the last couple weeks. Let's not make it a third. Let's not make it us.

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If it's happened to us, you are being drawn and fucking quartered. Do not let this happen. You will not make it home.

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Don't. Come on. Come on. You better hope we're a home game because you're not on the plane. You are not on the plane.

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Find your own way back. We have frozen all your cards. Figure it out. You better carpool. You better figure it out.

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You gotta come pick up the check. Direct deposit ain't working this week.

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Dude, dude. That's gonna see me. You got to see me. I'm about to deduct whatever the fuck is going in. Your check this week to pay my fine.

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Yeah, no, no doubt. And he was defined by the team, too, which I'm like, that's weird. The NFL finding him makes sense because it's a bad look, but the team to find him, I don't know. It's a weird messaging thing. Maybe the team, maybe the actual players didn't like it. That's what I think it is. Maybe it's that. Like maybe they're like, hey, you gotta send some type of message here. We don't like it as players. Maybe that's the case.

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Maybe it was a players' association that didn't like it.

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Maybe. But again, if that was the case, the NFL would have done it. Not the team. I don't I don't know. It's weird, but it was a very weird situation. Um, blast thing. I didn't you didn't have an opportunity to talk about it. We kind of we kind of hinted towards it. The Joe Flacco to the Bengals. News has come out they actually expect him to be the starter this week. How you feel, buddy? How you feel?

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Jameis Winston must have been too expensive. Kirk Cousins must have been too much too expensive.

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I don't here's that's why I think about Kirk Cousins. I get it, he's not that good, but he can go and be a serviceable starter for somebody if you have nobody else. And I think you guys were at the point of nobody else.

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Real quick. I I have been thinking about this all year. I'm like, if we were to send Trey Hendrickson over to the Falcons for like a second round pick in Kirk Cousins, you think they decline that? They need a fucking pass rusher.

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They did draft two guys in the draft.

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Those two guys aren't Trey Hendrickson.

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Yeah, but they traded two, they traded, they got one guy in the first round, then traded back into the first round from the second round to get a different guy. So like they put some real assets into getting guys.

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True. You can't give up a second round pick and a quarterback you're not using for Trey Hendrickson. Again, even if it's a one-year rental, you still have a one-year rental who can mentor the guys that are there.

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Yeah, but I don't think he is gonna be the difference between between them and Tampa Bay.

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No, I believe Tampa Bay is running away with that thing. I believe Michael Penick's playing a little better, might be.

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Yeah, no, you're not wrong. But again, first year as a starter. So Hendrix's not gonna help that.

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I know that much. But again, look at the Lions, like, hey, give us whatever you got.

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Yeah, I'm like, there's many opportunities.

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There's so many things that need a fucking pass rusher. You go to Buffalo be like, hey, who the fuck's your backup? Yeah. We'll take him.

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Yeah.

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Uh because they need a fuck they need defense like a motherfucker.

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Joey Bose is doing jackfucking shit. He was doing stuff last game. They lost, but you know, he was still, he was, he was a part of part of the game. He was playing. That's a plus.

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He's not Trey Hendrickson.

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Pro yeah. Okay, so Joe Flacco. They gave up a fifth round pick for a fifth round pick for Joe Flacco and a sixth round pick. They want to be the starter. He will throw a pretty ball if you can keep him upright.

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There's nothing wrong with the trade. Joe Flacco and a six for a fifth round pick is fine. I don't care. Yes. It's just it what does it do?

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Yeah. How does it change your team? It's horrendous.

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Yeah. So now we just have a dude who can't move and is gonna throw interceptions. Yeah. So what was the fucking point? Could have kept Jake Browning in there. He's the older version of Jake Browning that can't move. That's it. Doesn't have a Super Bowl.

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Well, he does have a Super Bowl.

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Yes, Jake Browning doesn't.

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Yeah, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, no, that's true. But I'm just I I told like I told you when it first happened, I'm like, my only thing is like, do you want better quarterback play? I'm like, just tell T and tell Jamar Chase that, hey, play at 50% this year, get your reps, but we're gonna lose football games this year.

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If one of them gets injured, I I would tweak the fuck out.

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I'm just like, it's season doesn't mean shit.

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Y'all need to draft a reliable backup quarterback. A dude who is not good enough to start, but somebody who can just sit on the bench.

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But here's my thing. I think Jake Browning is that.

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Oh.

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But once he turns into your starter, that's when things hit the fan.

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No, Jake Browning isn't that. Because no one knew how hurt Joe Burrow really was yet. And this motherfucker went out there and I'm gonna throw three interceptions and three touchdowns. Yeah, but Dude, you were good two years ago.

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Yeah, he was.

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He was you were fine.

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He was throwing picks, but it wasn't this bad. Yeah. You've only played. He's turned into Jameis.

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How the fuck? No, Jameis throws touchdowns and interceptions. Jake Browning only does one of those things. Real quick. I love Jameis Winston. He's a great dude. I would follow him to death. Swear to God I would. He could say some shit to me and be like, fuck it, okay. Uh the Jameis Winston is gonna give you a shitty fucking first half. And then somehow go out there and throw five bombs to win the game.

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Yeah.

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Brownie's like, I'm just gonna give you a shitty game and throw eight interceptions and fumble the ball twice. Yeah, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. Again, the Giants would have gave us Jameis. You are lying if they wouldn't have.

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Jameis is out there giving letting Jackson Dart eat his dubs every week. Like, what the fuck are we doing? Like, what is like come on? I that's I don't understand. At least it'd be fun football. It would be fun.

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In all in all honesty, I'd probably end up hitting it just as much because I'm like, I want to win football games. He he'll he'll he will unfortunately we would win more games with Jameis Woodson on the roster.

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Probably, yeah.

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We'd win at least five games with Jameis Winston on the roster.

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Yeah, yeah. So at that point, I'm like But here's what I will say Joe Flacco does have a chance to actually learn the offense. If they really wanted to bring in somebody, somebody that bad to play right now offense. You're right. Yeah, okay, you're right. That's the only other problem, Joe Flacco. There's no offense.

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He is an offensive scheme guy. He fits into every scheme because all you you need him to do, fucking um Kyle Shanahan would love Joe Flacco.

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Yeah.

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Hey, stand back during that pocket and just throw rod, tell you to throw.

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Him, him, Kirk Cousin, he just like it's the same style of quarterback, man. Same thing.

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It'd be perfect, right? One little one little nip. Just snip it right there, bro. We have no offensive scheme. That's why our offensive, our old offensive coordinator, who's now the head coach for the Titans, fucking sucks. Because we had no offensive scheme. They don't call plays. Joe Burrow goes out there and just, I'm just gonna sling this bitch. That is our offensive scheme. I'm just gonna throw this bitch up. Yeah. No, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. There isn't an offensive scheme, and I think everybody's like, hey, everybody's now noticing that.

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Yeah, because Zach Taylor doesn't, he's calling the plays and he's awful.

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He doesn't call good plays. He's awful. Why do you I think the first play they had Browning, they had T. Higgins and Jamar Chase on a fucking go route. On the first play, Joe Joe Burrow just got hurt fucking go route. Yeah. Let's let's. Which this motherfucker please proceed to throw up a fucking interception to the safety. Yeah. That was four yards off from T. Higgins, and I'm like. It just That only works when it's Joe Burrow.

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Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

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And y'all they have now changed the scheme, and it has gotten worse.

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Yeah.

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And I just I don't understand. You have no scheme.

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Yeah. All this leads to the fact that I just don't think they should have had the idea, like, oh, trading for another quarterback will be the way to fix our issues. I'm like, no. The issue's gonna be the issue. Now you just gave up a fifth-round pick that you could be using for a player to help you out next year.

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You if you would have traded for a more mobile quarterback, then it'd be okay.

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Yeah, but like, should they even be trying to win games at this point? I I get you as a fan. You want to see your team go out there and win football games.

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I don't want to see you win a football game. I don't want to lose 48 to 3 again.

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Right, yeah.

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There's a difference.

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You don't want to get embarrassed. There's a difference. I get it. We were embarrassed by the fucking Vikings. Multiple weeks in a row.

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We have like we have been blown out. Yeah. I would like to lose with class. I'm okay with a 21-48. That's okay with me.

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Right. No, I get yes, that makes total sense.

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I am not okay with scoring a fucking field goal. Y'all motherfuckers couldn't get us in field goal range. You know how many kicks? Uh fucking I can't remember our kickers make a finger up. You know how many kicks have McPherson's put up this year?

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How many?

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We'll play a game. You're a betting man. Above or below nine.

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I would like to say above. You'd be wrong. Oh God, that's terrible.

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You'd be wrong. He only put up four fucking kicks this year.

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And didn't two of them he hit they hit against uh the Lions last week? Uh-huh. And the week before that, came one. That's so bad. That's so bad. Again, they they made it closer at the end.

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They put up a single fucking kick for the first two weeks because Joe Burrow was balling out.

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And then they went, and then they went the other way. They can't do it for the other reason because they can't get down the field. Yeah. To even get in range. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

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Which is bad. We got almost a billion dollar receiver room. What the fuck are we doing?

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Yeah, it's it's very bad. It's not good. And I just, again, I get what you're saying. You just don't want to get embarrassed. I'm keeping it.

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You're okay with losing embarrassed. I'm okay. I want a top five pick. Caleb Downs, here we fucking come. Caleb. Arvell Reese. Somebody, dude. We're getting a fucking either defensive piece or I need to see a star-studded O-lineman. This motherfucker's coming in and starting. Better be a tackle. Better be a fucking it has to be a left tackle. Has to be. It has to be. Orlando Brown is old. Yep. And it is showing. Yes. It is showing heavy.

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And what is it, Mims?

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Marius Mims.

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Yeah, he should not be a he should stay at right.

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No, keep his ass a right tackle and then fuck up. Move him to right to left tackle and draft a right tackle later in the fucking. Yeah, they are. I I can dude! I know they are! I know! I know that's about to happen. They're going to move him to left tackle, and in the second or third round, they're gonna draft a right tackle. And I'll be like, what the fuck? Yeah. And I'm be looking at these motherfuckers and I'm like, if y'all were to switch them, it'd actually be a lot better. Yeah. But they're gonna draft an athletic right tackle. Yeah, they are. And move Marius Mim to left tackle. And I'm just gonna be sitting here like, just swap. Just swap him. Yeah. That dude is two inches shorter than Marius Mint. Just swap him. What the fuck are we doing? Yeah. Yeah. But if y'all I I need y'all to see, I need to see a center, a left guard, a right guard, and a left tackle all drafted. Yeah. And then y'all better figure out how to get fucking eight corners in the same draft. Y'all better figure this shit the fuck out. Because I am done. I am done with the bad defense. I am done with the shitty O-line. We are we have too many talented players. We have we've had three talented players on our defense for three years now. Yeah. Logan Wilson, Trey Henderson, and Jordan Battle. Yeah. Jordan Battle has gotten exponentially better. Yeah. He is actually one of the better safeties in the NFL right now. True. He makes Geno Stone look like a dumpster fire next to him. Yeah. Because he has gotten that good. He has three interceptions.

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Yeah. He's been very good this year.

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He's playing amazing. He cannot tackle. He is a good tackler.

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Yeah.

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He cannot cover with it, damn. But he can read a field.

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That's not what they asked him to do.

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No, he can't read a field. Yeah. If he was a little bit faster, move his ass to free safety, he'd be elite. He's just not that fast.

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I agree.

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I do.

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And Logan Wilson has always been one of the better cover uh linebackers in the NFL, and he's a great run-stapping linebacker. He is great at what he does. He's been on the fucking Bengals.

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And he will not be on the team next year, guaranteed. So Shamar Stewart is fine.

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He is fine.

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But he's not the next one. He's not the next guy.

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Pick 17 was crazy. Yeah, I agree. For a dude who is he is fine. He is worse than Sam Hubbard because Sam Hubbard could get to the quarterback.

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Yeah, again, if you got to Sam Hubbard level, I'd be happy.

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I I would be. Sam Hubbard was a third round pick.

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Yeah.

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Sam Hubbard was a third round pick, and Sam Hubbard was one of the better as retros coming out of his class. And he was picked in the third round, and he averaged nine sacks his entire career. Yeah. He played nine years in the Bengals and never once dropped below nine sacks. That's pretty fucking good. I agree. And he could stop the run.

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Just figure it out. He should have been. He should have been.

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We have drafted three straight years, three defensive players. None of them have been good. My bad. Four straight years since we've won the Super Bowl, we drafted a first-round defensive player.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Except last year when we got Mario Smith.

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Yes.

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That's it. Dax Hill, Miles Murphy, Shamar Stewart, trash, hot my bad. Hot fucking garbage. Dax Hill was hot fucking garbage. You know why he was good? Because he knew the play.

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Yeah.

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He knew the play. Miles Murphy, who I've he has never touched the field. Never. Never. Never touched the field. Because he was super athletic. But he had Mario Shamar Stewart's stats of he never got to the quarterback. But we drafted him at pick 30. We lost an AFC championship. And then Mario Smims, who is pretty good.

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But they're gonna play it, mess around and put him in a spot he probably doesn't need to be.

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He can't be. And then he was looking at he'd be making a fucking mint right now. Oh yeah. He'd be making so much money.

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Oh yeah, no question.

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But I can't. I can't lose this.

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It's just I don't know.

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I want to lose with class, and at least Jameis will let us lose with class. But unfortunately, Jameis would fuck around and he would beat the Panthers. Yeah.

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Yeah.

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At this point, I foresee us losing to the Panthers. Jameis did not lose to the Panthers. Jake Browning is going to lose to the Panthers.

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Joe Flacco. Again, I think Joe Flacco will be better. It's just you have to protect him to get that out of him.

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Jake Browning can at least move.

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Yeah.

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Joe Flacco, you're gonna have to turn around and be like, Joe! Like it's fucking uh boys in the hood. Because he is getting hit. Yeah, every time, dude. Every time he's so old that if he gets injured, we're going back to Jake Browning. And at that point, I might as well gather my fucking eyes out. Not watching this shit. Yeah, exactly. I'm not watching this.

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I agree. I agree.

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Sorry, I I didn't even watch the game last week.

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I just I get it, man. It's bad. It's bad. It's so bad.

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And it sucks. Our schedule's fucking cake. We're just now into the point where our schedule is getting hard, and Joe Burrow would have made this shit look like cake.

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Yeah.

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But no.

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Not the case, man. It's not your year. It's not your year. No. Um all right, next. Yeah, I I would think so. I do. I I totally I totally believe that.

SPEAKER_02: 52:51

Did they trade Greg Musa?

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Yeah, they traded him for this this corner off of um, let's see. Let me get that here. Browns trade. Yep. They traded with the Jaguars. The trade was for Tyson Campbell.

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The motherfucker that Jamar Chase burned for an entire fucking game.

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Yeah.

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The dude who is burnt fucking toast. Yeah. By everyone he plays.

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Yeah, Tyson Campbell just got burnt, got burnt to death by freaking uh uh why am I freaking his name now? Uh Jay Jettis for a whole game. He was getting burnt toast. So they apparently the the whole thing what they did was was that they believe that Greg Newsome is a better fit for what the Jaguars do, and that Tyson Campbell is a better fit for what the what the Cleveland Browns do. Losing games. Again, Tyson Campbell has to be pissed because he was on a four and one football team with the Jags, and now he's gonna have to go play with the freaking with the with the uh Cleveland Browns?

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Greg Newsome's probably like, oh fuck it. Greg Newsman's a top 15 cornerback.

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I don't again, he was getting burnt up like crazy too, but I think they were asking him to do things that he wasn't that he wasn't fit. That's not what he does. But I just think that like, how does this help? Like, both of them are paid, so it's not like you're getting cheaper, really.

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No, but you guys are getting the worst corner in return.

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It's just it's a stupid trade, I think.

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I don't understand. You were already bad.

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Change for the sake of change. I really don't think it's gonna like change the outlook of your football team.

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That's where I'm at. You gave them 45 cents and got 40 cents back. Like, what the fuck are we doing?

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Yeah, I'm just it doesn't make any it doesn't make any sense to me. So it was it's a weird one. But yeah, you know, it's there's a lot of weird stuff going on right now. Um all right, let's get to the game that happened last night.

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Why didn't we trade for a fucking corner?

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Because that would that would impact better, like make you better, but it would also probably cost you some money because a better corner, they're getting paid more money to do the job. So that's where I think the the difference comes in, which is where I think you know the Bengals, if it's not Joe Burrow and the and the two wide receivers, they don't want to pay out any type of money.

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This has to be like biting them in the ass right now. They have to be realizing, hey, we may have fucked up a little bit here. I I'm happy we kept T. I truly am. And we both knew that it was gonna be keep T or Petray Hendrickson, and it's became keep T. Uh keep the offense good, keep life happy. The offense ain't good.

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But I I just Right. But I just think that just my last thing on the Bengals before we move on. I just feel like every time they've had a chance to make a decision, they've had it's two avenues. One to be more fun, or the other to make a good long-term decision for everybody. And I know that Joe Burrow said, hey, we want to keep T. We want because again, I think Joe Burrow at the end of the day, he had a decision like, hey, I know I can control keeping T because if I let T walk and have to rely on you to get me help either on the offensive line or on the defense, I can't trust that. I'd rather have the bird in the hand is better than two than a two in a bush. Right? So I understand what Joe Burrow's mentality was on that with making them keep T. But I think if you were trying to really turn yourself into a good organization, you would have taken that opportunity with T, signed him, and then traded him right away, or gave him the fifth-year option, the sorry, the franchise tag, traded him for extra pieces, and then help yourself either with offensive linemen or defensive players to help you out for the future. But guess what? They don't have a GM that'll that can make that right decision and do it with any type of faith that he can actually get the job done and go ahead and get the right people to come in. But also they don't have anybody to sit there and look at Joe Burrow and say, hey, I know this is what you want. But because think about it this way. I think they have the front office in Kansas City looks at Patrick Mahomes and says, Hey, I know you like this, this, and that, but we have something that we do here that will lead you to be able to do your job for the long term and us have a chance to win. And I think if you had a better organization in the front office that can tell Joe Burrow, like, hey, let us do our jobs and it'll help you do yours, it'll lead to a better long-term relationship on the football champion. They better. Like, I just don't like you better. Like, I just don't know Like okay, real quick.

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You have to get rid of them both. The GM can't draft. He had one good draft class in 2020, and that was it. So you have to fire him, and you have to fire Zach Taylor, and you bring them both at the same time.

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Yeah, I agree, yeah. But they won't do that. Because they don't like firing dudes and paying them to not work.

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They're gonna keep Zach Taylor, keep our uh GM, and then fire our defensive coordinator.

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Yeah, like that was the problem. And Lou and Rumo's going and doing great things with the game. So I don't know. It just had to make a better decision long term. That's where I'm at here. Let's go ahead and go on to the next thing that we need to do. So let's go ahead to the Eagles game. No, get to recap Eagles games. Eagles game last night. It was not a pretty one. I did watch this game, it was ugly. Eagles went to the Giants last night. Giants won 34-17. The first half was a very competitive first half.

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No, no, no, no, no. It was competitive in the first half. You could see the tides starting to switch going towards half time. You could see the game starting to flip a little bit. Uh and I was watching. I was watching, and I was like, I'm gonna bet the Giants to win real quick. And I did. Made like 30 bucks.

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Okay.

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Because you could feel it. You could feel the Eagles weren't in sync. You could feel it when they were trying to get down the field and they were the play calls were shit.

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Well, that in the half where they had where I had an opportunity to go down the field and do it, and they just didn't know they didn't have any timeouts, and then uh he They didn't spike the ball. They didn't spike the ball. It was like five. It was fourth down, it was fourth down. It was, but again, they didn't even get the ball off to make a last second play. Like they didn't even try to do anything.

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It was they wasted like five, six seconds.

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Yeah. It was it was bad.

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It was it was bad, and right there is when I was like, I'm about the Giants to win real quick. I made a quick 30 bucks.

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And it went the other way in the second half, man. It was just Jackson Dart. Yeah, Jackson Dart.

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He's playing good.

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Yeah.

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And his mom is smoking. And he's playing good. He is from Utah.

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I'm just saying, you know what's funny is that a kid like that from Utah. Is he Mormon? That's what I'm saying. That's what like when you look at him now, he don't look like he looks like he's piping out everybody he can see in New York right now. I'm just like, there's there's something I think there was probably a moment where when the parents were like, hey, we're gonna send you to USC, and then he ends up going to Ole Miss, then they're like, hey, what is our kid that comes back home? Because that ain't the kid we we sent away when we started going to college. But yeah, no, it's it's weird. And like the big chain that he wears every week. I thought he was from California. No. Utah.

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One of these things are not like the other, because something's not raining.

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Again, he did go. He wasn't he has been at Ole Miss the last three years. So he has been in a very different place than where he grew up.

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No, we've been in the same fucking place. Where Ole Miss in the middle of where?

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Mississippi.

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What town in Mississippi? Named a town in Mississippi. It's the capital of Mississippi.

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Oh, Jackson?

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So he was in the middle of buttfuck nowhere. The University of Ole Miss is the biggest thing in Mississippi.

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Yes, but Southern life is much different than in Utah where potential Mormon life is being lived.

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How?

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Uh football's everything in the South. You're the quarterback there. You have a lot of pe a lot of girls and people that go to school in the South because football's king, it's more fun, anything goes, like the religion isn't necessarily as big of a factor, especially young people. Stop lying. Not when it comes to Mormonism.

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I don't even understand Mormonism.

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They're the ones that are worried about, they're like doing the whole, you know, like they're soaking. There it is. They're soaking because they're worried about the little BYU.

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What BYU is.

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BYU. Like, we're yes, that's what they're worried about up there. That ain't happening in the South. They're draining. They're draining you down there. Nobody's questioning it. Draining.

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Crazy statement.

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Like it's a it's a much different life. And I think he. You said his mom is smoking. She is smoking. Very true. But he's playing very good football. And I think, again, is he a much better passer than what Russ is? No. But guess what? He gives the team more hope. He has useful energy. He's running the football around.

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You know who also does that? That boy, Cam Scattaboo.

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Cam Scadaboo was awesome. You said with three touchdowns last night. I hand up. I have to take an L on that. I thought.

SPEAKER_02: 1:02:04

Nah, that boy's gonna be pretty good. He does everything. He does everything. He receives the ball, and he's not a receiving back.

SPEAKER_03: 1:02:09

He is. He did a lot of that. He he was a do everything at Arizona State.

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He continues to do everything. True. He will not play long. That boy is a CTE demon.

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Why does he lead with his head? I saw a tweet that said he had he's Gronk with a smaller body. Yes! You can't take that type of punishment.

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Yeah.

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And you're a running back. Dude, stop.

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It's crazy. He doesn't have burst. He's not super fast. He doesn't, he's not elusive. He is, I'm gonna run straight at you as hard as I can and put my crown of the helmet straight at your chest. Yeah. He is knocking the wind out of everybody he touches.

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Yeah, he like brings the um the white guy wide receiver mentality to the running back position. Yes, and it works.

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And I really like how he plays football. He's good. He's a hard-nosed runner, and it is fun to watch. True. You will not be able to watch him very long. Uh he will forget his name by the time.

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He's here for a good time, not a long time.

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The way he plays football is not a way of football that is meant to be played anymore because those guys burn out quick.

SPEAKER_03: 1:03:09

Yeah, no, you're not wrong, but guess what? He will give you everything he has until that happens. And he was great last night. Three touchdowns.

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Like nobody was it was great. It's it's fun to watch. Again, it's fun to watch football.

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It didn't help that Jalen Carter for the Eagles wasn't playing last night. That was a thing. It happened right before the game started. It was announced he wasn't going to play. Again, this happens multiple times over where it's like happened and it's just weird. I'm just like, because again, I think he makes the biggest difference when he is or is not on that field, it changes their defense altogether. But he doesn't deal, he doesn't have anything to do with the offense. And the offense is shit, and you have one half where everything's looking okay, and then the next half it's it's a problem. I was talking about in the last pod, they don't have an adult as the offensive coordinator that can like really say, hey, this is going to be our identity. He is listening to the to the media every week, and he's like over-correcting every single time whatever narrative is out about their team, he's over-correcting towards the other way. And Saquon said after the game, like I think he put it perfectly, was that like, hey, last week, last year, everybody knew what we were doing. It wasn't about being predictable. It was about the fact that our mentality was we're gonna run the football through your face, and we went and did it with we did it and win the Super Bowl last year. It's not about being predictable or not being predictable, it's about having an identity and sticking to it and like having it be a part of what you are as a culture. And I think that with this new offensive coordinator, AJ Brown, again, I've always been I we have been AJ Brown apologists. But after the game last night, everybody's like, hey, what about that meeting y'all had? Like it was well reported that AJ Brown, Ju uh Hurts, Jalen Hurts, and uh and Saquon. Saquon, they all had a meeting, couple hour meeting. They asked him about it after the game last night. He's like, what meeting? When it was everybody confirmed it. It's like I almost feel like he can he's doing it in such a like he's the classic wide receiver where he's just causing trouble. And I'm just like, dude, you're old enough, you've been in this league long enough, like you know your team is teetering on the brink of disaster. And stop himself. He can't help himself.

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And I don't understand. And I'm like, I can't. He had like 78 yards last night.

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Yeah. They were giving him the ball, but their offense isn't consistent, and like the issues are still there whether he's getting the ball or not. So I'm just like, you're getting the ball, you're getting what you want, and then you still act like this after the game when you lose. I'm like, come on, there has to be a stopping point. I have been a believer in AJ Brown, we've been AJ Brown apologists, and I'm just like, it's just getting harder and harder to be on his side when I'm like, things are going to shit, and he's still making the wrong decision. And it was just it's a very me type of thing he's doing, and it's just like, ugh, and it's it's a whole team thing, man. It's a the team, it's like a culture issue. Their head coach doesn't have any sort of control on this. He's gonna get fired by the end of the year. I think that's really gonna happen. Like nobody thought there was a chance that he would get fired after what they just won the Super Bowl last year, but it's everything's going off the rails again. This is starting to feel like a couple years ago where they started the the year 10-1 and then lost their last six straight and then got destroyed by the by the Bucks in the playoffs. Like, this is what it's starting to feel like this year, and I'm just like, it's just it's it's just really bad. It's a dumpster fire right now. And they're too talented for it to be that way.

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Yes. Right, they're way too fucking talented.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:32

Way too talented to be that way. And all the credit to the Giants, though, they went out there, did their job, and they took advantage of the night that they had and they did it, and Jackson Dart's playing great, and Cam Scadaboo's doing his thing. And the New York Giants defense, their defensive line's getting after you. Like they're doing their thing. But their Saquon was running the football very effectively. He ran the football so well in the first half, and the second half they didn't give him the football at all.

SPEAKER_02: 1:06:53

Yeah, you know who wasn't running the football very effectively? AJ Dillon, who they got the ball punched out. Real quick, it wasn't on him, it's that bad. I'm not gonna blame him for it.

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Yeah.

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But he also doesn't run very well. And he's your second string back for a reason. The linebacker did earn that ball. Oh no, he earned it. He earned that ball. He did, he did that. Because he truly did punch that motherfucker out. Yeah, I agree. Uh so he earned that ball. But why is he even on the fucking fields?

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:20

Get Saquon the ball. He was running so well in the first half. Why stop doing it? Don't get away from that.

SPEAKER_02: 1:07:25

I can say the Brian the the Bryans, the Giants defensive line was playing really good. Brian Burns was on or was off a perk 30. Yeah, he was. Um I can also say Abdul Carter's not doing as much as I thought he was. He's getting a lot of QB pressures.

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Yeah.

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He's just not. I I think the idea of hey, he's a little small has kind of stuck with me. Yeah. I was really watching him play.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:49

And plus they have so many guys. It's like they have Kaylon Thibodeau, they have Brian Burns, they have Dexter Lawrence. They have Dexter Lawrence.

SPEAKER_01: 1:07:56

There's almost nowhere for him to line up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:57

It's like they have so many defensive ends.

SPEAKER_01: 1:08:00

I see it a lot where like him and Brian Burns are swapping on who's DT. Right.

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Uh or they're making or they're making him a def uh an outside linebacker, and I'm like, well. That's not really what he does. Like his best thing is going after getting after the passer. And I'm just, it's they have an embarrassment of riches, and not everybody has a spot right now. And it's kind of weird. I feel like at some point they'll probably have to trade one of them to kind of get over it. It's probably cave on Thibodeau. Thibodeau. He's the one. He's the one. That's the one they should probably do it with. Because he hasn't really gotten paid yet.

SPEAKER_02: 1:08:28

No, but again, he's good. Yeah. But he he was a top 10 pick, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:31

Yeah. He was a topic. He was.

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He's not that good.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:35

Again, he's good. Like he's like he's again. Maybe he could be the number one. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02: 1:08:40

Maybe he could be. But again, I think right after his first year, they traded for Brian Burns.

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Yeah.

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So it was like he immediately got pushed to the other side. Hey, you were facing the left tackle every time you're gonna go.

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And now they've added another defensive end of the mix, and it's just like, ugh, they just maybe you got too much. Too many cooks in the kitchen.

SPEAKER_02: 1:08:56

The Bengals would love to trade for a guy like that. That'd be a great trade beast.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:00

Yeah, but they would be asking for way too much, man. I'm just it's and the Bengals won't pay it. They won't. They won't do it.

SPEAKER_02: 1:09:06

I'd be cool. We'd probably have to give them like a second round pick. Yeah, at least. At least. At least. And they won't pay. Maybe not a first because he hasn't been that good. Probably not a first. But probably a second and a couple other picks.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:18

But again, I think you have too many needs on your team to give away a first round pick for anything. Like whatever you want to.

SPEAKER_02: 1:09:24

Oh yeah. I do believe he's very, very good. Yeah. And I I think he could be even better, but there's too many cooks in the past.

SPEAKER_03: 1:09:30

But the problem is you'd have to pay him right away, and you know what they're not good at is paying the guys they need to pay. Yeah, no, he's right before he's right, he's right. He's not at that point yet. So yeah, that is true. You would have like a lease of one.

SPEAKER_02: 1:09:45

Or was he a year after Chase?

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Uh let me see.

SPEAKER_02: 1:09:49

Because he was either drafted the same year or he was drafted right after.

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Kayvon Thibodeau. He was drafted in um 2022.

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The year after.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:06

But yeah, it's it's two teams going two different ways. I think the Giants, I think he Jackson Dart might all might have also saved uh Dayball's job. Keeps going this way. I think they're gonna probably be able to keep that nucleus going for a little bit. And as long as Jackson Dart keeps playing well, I think they might this might be a launching pad for actually getting better as a football team.

SPEAKER_02: 1:10:28

I think they'll improve. I don't think they win more than like five games, but I think probably not.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:31

But guess what? They'll be able to add a great pick to whatever they want to do. Yeah. Probably either getting us uh something in your back end of your defense or adding another offensive piece to what you got.

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Probably I like I think they need an O lineman.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:44

Oh, an offensive lineman would be helpful? Uh or just a secondary piece, something in the secondary to help you.

SPEAKER_02: 1:10:49

Something in the secondary and O lineman. Yeah. Um don't draft another receiver.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:53

No like a second or third round. Oh, yeah, for sure. No, yeah, for sure. He did. It wasn't good. But again, I think he's young enough, he'll come back, he'll be very good.

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:04

He is very, very young. Yes. Again, I'm at a point where I'm like, damn, I kind of wish he was still on the team. I want to see how they'd be playing on like.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:11

Oh, yeah, it'd be awesome. It would be very good. They're they're bringing the office. Exactly.

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And I think with him.

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Imagine what they would be with him. It would be it would be a lot more explosive.

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:29

It would be it would be great. And y'all might win seven games.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:33

Again, that would be much better than what they've been doing.

SPEAKER_02: 1:11:35

Oh, I thought y'all were gonna be hot fucking garbage. No, they You know what? You're not the worst team in New York.

SPEAKER_03: 1:11:41

Again, making me a little upset that Steelers didn't get Jackson Dart. But again, do we have an offensive program that can get the best out of him?

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That's where I'm gonna he is a quarterback guru. He knows what to do a quarterback. He changed Josh Allen's life. He knows how to develop a quarterback in a way that the Steelers don't know how to do that. You don't need a mostly finished product coming out. I agree. Unfortunately, you're going to end up around pick 19 or to 20 again. Yep. Uh, and you're not going to get a quarterback. You're gonna draft a defensive piece and have an elite defense, and it'll mean nothing.

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I know, I know.

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You're still four and one, though.

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Yes, and the division is ass around us. So like there really is why you're four and one. There is no other option. That's literally what it's come to. Yeah. I don't know. Um, let's go and start start our picks here.

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You know how sad I am that I don't want to go into an NFL game this year?

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Yeah, I know. I know.

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Again, I get genuinely sad, but I can't be okay with spending a couple hundred dollars to go and then to drive a couple hours to go watch Jake Browning throw the football or Joe to watch Joe Flacco. I'm not paying a couple hundred dollars to watch Joe Flacco. Go fuck yourself. Yeah. Fuck you. I'll pay a couple hundred dollars to watch Jamar Chase throw that bitch around. Get the fuck out of my face. Um sorry. Sorry. First game. You got Denver going to the Jets.

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We're already, we're already off one. We're already down one because we both picked Philly to win that game. They didn't. So now we're going on to the next games here. Oh, for this game.

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Yeah, Denver at Jets.

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Oh, yeah. I'm taking Denver. I'm taking Denver.

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Jets are just dysfunctional.

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Have to. Again, it's not even, I think fields and and I just so defense is just all over the place.

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Isn't a problem?

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Again, I don't he's playing well. Like he's not the he's not a total disaster. I think he has shown that he is a I'm not going to sit here and say he can be a superstar quarterback or anything, but he is a serviceable quarterback that if you give him pieces around him, he's a guy. He can play, he can play, right? And they're giving him Garrett Wilson, and Brees Hall is running the football pretty effectively. And as long as they can protect and give him a little bit of time, he's making good decisions and making a little bit some wow plays that only he can make. But it's just defensively, they're a clusterfuck. And Sauce Gardner has not been good this year at all. So I'm gonna go ahead and take Denver. They're explaining a lot better all around.

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Arizona at Indiana.

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Indianapolis, no questions asked. Daniel Jones playing good football. Arizona will be competitive for one of the two halves. Either the first half, the second half, and then the other part of the game, they'll be awful and they'll lose the football game.

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Indiana might be one of the best teams in the AFC.

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Led by Daniel fucking Jones. Is how crazy of a world we're living in where that's the case.

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One more thing. The Colts couldn't have wanted that much for Anthony Richardson.

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Yeah, that's also an option.

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Couldn't have wanted that much. Because real quick, Anthony Richardson could have balled the fuck out on the Bengals. That could have meant nothing to me. Give me Joe Burrow. Yeah, no question.

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But Daniel Jones, man, he's playing very good ball. Their team is great around him. They're doing everything they need to do. And I think they are just that is a team with direction. That is a team with leadership.

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They're all the same mindset of hey, we are trying to win a football game. No one is arguing, no one is fighting. They're all going towards the same direction, and it's a functional team.

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And that's why I think Arizona lacks. Arizona does not have a functional mindset.

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They are not all trying to make it.

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Kyler Murray isn't a great leader.

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They don't have He is a terrible leader.

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It's Kyler Murray and a bunch of young dudes. And they just don't have any type of leadership. They have a young coach that they do or do not believe in. He probably won't even have his job by the end of this year. And it's just a clusterfuck altogether. I feel bad for Marv, and I feel bad for Paris Johnson Jr. Because there are some buck guys and Trey and Burke, he's there too. So I'm like, there are some real buck guys there that are like they all they know is winning, but they're too young to be those dudes who be like, hey, we're gonna we're gonna take over the culture of this program. Like they're just not there yet. So it just sucks. It just sucks.

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But India Paris Johnson Jr.'s been so good. Exactly. It goes unnoticed because he's on a shitty team, but he is so fucking good.

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And Marv went through his dropping issues for a couple games and now he's out of it and he's playing better football. But guess what? He still has the issue of Kyler Murray's not playing well consistently all the time. So it is what it is. Indianapolis, much better team.

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Nick gave me a Chargers at Miami. Fucking Chargers by a mile.

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Yeah.

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Wait, the Chargers have been playing bad.

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They look like ass against against Washington. They look like ass.

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They're starting to get really concerning.

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How do you only score 10 points against a Washington defense that is not good whatsoever? My thing is that Miami just lost to the Panthers. Miami's defense is bad. But offensively, they can do some things.

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Uh-huh.

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But it's nothing I believe in enough to go beat the Tantas.

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They do a throw the ball more than 40. I can't. You're not wrong. Waddle come back! Waddle come back. Get the fuck out of here.

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Darren Waller, though.

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Baller.

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It's crazy the fact that he's been gone for a few years, comes back, and he's like the number one guy in their offense, and he's balling out. I have to give him a lot of credit. I did not think he would ever be a factor. Again, the team is that bad to where I think a guy that hasn't been playing football for two years can come back and be like a main part of their offense. But he is balling out, and I have to give him a lot of credit. I did not think we were going to get this type of play out of him, even though he did kind of retire young. He was still a young guy.

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Yeah, and he was very, very good for the Raiders.

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And he was just dealing with injuries. He didn't want to do it anymore. He had his moment. He comes back and he's playing very good football. And I have to give him that. I I didn't think we were getting that type of play out of him. So um, but yeah, I think the LA Chargers will probably get the win. Even though I totally see it. The way they didn't play well last week against Washington.

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I can see them losing, but I don't believe it.

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I am not willing to put anything on believing that they'll lose to Miami. Miami's bad. Um, next game, New England and New Orleans.

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I can see them winning, but I wouldn't put no money on it. Yes, I agree.

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I agree.

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I agree. New England by a fucking mile. I'd be damned. I trusted Spencer Rattler two weeks in a row.

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They did. New Orleans showed out last week. Uh they played.

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Oh, they beat the Bills.

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The Giants. They won 26 to 14.

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Nah.

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Nah. Nah. You're not buying what they're selling. Not buying what they're selling.

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I'm not taking that.

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I think New England is one of those teams that if they can put it all together, they do have Christian Gonzalez back. So he's like a main, like if he is a difference maker, that he can lock down one side of the field and really help out their defense.

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Yeah, if he makes it through the whole game.

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That is true, but he made it through all the last game and they played very well against Buffalo. He's so injury-prone. He is. But I think that Drake may have starting to pick up some steam and play better offensively. Can they just not have a running back fumble the football for one game, maybe, possibly? Like just one game? Just one. Just one. Maybe it'll change everything for them. But I think New England's gonna win that game. I like just like you, I don't think I could trust New Orleans two weeks in a row to go out there and win.

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So Cleveland at Pittsburgh.

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I'm taking Pittsburgh. I think Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's coming off a bye. We're getting some guys back off of injury.

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Pittsburgh's not that bad.

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We are not that bad. I wish we were worse, honestly. But their defense is awesome, though. That's where I think the issue is. Because if they can get because one of our issues is not being able to protect Rodgers, and if he's not doesn't feel protected, he's gonna throw the football away because he's not trying to try to take hits. And if we're that's happening, if we can't move the football offensively, our defense, even though our defense is gonna do their jobs, it's just I don't know, man. I I I'm gonna take Pittsburgh. We're better than them, but I could easily see us losing to Cleveland because our offense can be to absolutely putrid at times. I know. I know again, I know that.

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Don't be the only one with us losing Cleveland.

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I get it. I do, I really do.

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But I'm just I'm gonna let Dylan Gabriel beat you twice.

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I sure hope not.

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I sure hope not.

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I'm picking us to win tomorrow. I mean on Sunday, so I'm taking Pittsburgh. But it's just I've seen it look really bad. Alright.

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Next game, you got Dallas at Carolina. I pick Dallas.

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I'm taking Dallas as well. Dak is playing very good football. I have to give him probably the best football of his career. Um he's he's throwing to George Pickens and a bunch of nobodies, and it's working. But George Pickens will fuck you. He will at some point.

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It's a matter of when.

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So here's my so can I ask you a question? This is where if you if whether you're a Dak hater or a DAC believer, you can feel good about this, right? Because if you're a Dak believer, he's playing the best football of his career. And he doesn't have CD Lamb, his offensive line isn't the best, he doesn't have anybody on defense, and he's going out there and balling out, okay? But if you're a Dak hater or a DAC non-believer, can't you make the case that when Dak is at his worst and is when they have expectations?

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Yeah.

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So the fact they came into this season without having their best player Michael Parsons, he's gone. Their defense is ass coming into the year. Can't you make the case that this season is the most no expectation season of all time?

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He's worse when the lights are bright.

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Which gives him the opportunity to be like, hey, I'm just playing out here playing free. Nobody expects anything from me. So now he can go out and play well. But here's the problem is that they're gonna keep playing good and they're gonna get CD Lamb fucking back. And now they're gonna be like, oh, everybody else in the NFC kind of looks bad right now. What if this could be the year? And then Dak's gonna start playing like shit again. It's a whole circle of life of being a Cowboys fan, and they're gonna get it all in one fail swoop of a season. It's insane. It's gonna happen. But it's just like it was a profound thought that I had like, oh, he's playing free for right now. You're getting some good stuff out of out of Pickens, but CD Lamb's gonna come back. Things are gonna start going like people are gonna start believing in you again, and then things are gonna go to shit, and Pickens is gonna start playing bad. It's just the whole thing. But uh but Dallas for right now is playing some very good football, and I have to give him some credit on that. Javante Williams, their running back. He's pretty good. Coming off of injuries, he's playing very good football and running the football very effectively.

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Javante Williams was never bad, though.

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He was never bad, but he was very injured though. And we were like, hey, what is he gonna come look like coming back from injuries? And he's been good. But he's been playing very good football. So I have to give him some credit on that.

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Next time you have Seattle at Jacksonville, I picked Seattle.

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This might be one of the more fun games of the weekend, he's told you.

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Brian Robinson Jr. Who is their receiver coach? Because everywhere he has been, he has made a star receiver look bad. Do you know where he was last year? My bad. Do you know where he was when he first got the NFL? Everywhere. He's in Seattle. Oh, that's who he may look fucking horrendous. Mag H. JSN.

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Oh, okay. Yeah.

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The year he leaves, JSN blossoms. He becomes a great fucking quarterback. He becomes a great receiver. He was somewhere else right before that. And now I can't remember it. Because he has done this about three or four times. Where he goes to an offense and makes the star receiver look bad. Oh. Okay. And I can't remember where he was before that. And if I had my phone, I'd look it up. Can I see your phone please? Yes, sir. Because I everybody's been dogging Brian Thomas Jr. And I'm like, no. I I I noticed it. When they viewed up to the fucking uh coach's booth, I was like, I know who that is. I was like, he's the dude that made JSN look garbage. And I can't remember his name.

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I will get Brian Thomas Jr. did have a good game last week against the Chiefs. Um they had a good game in general, right? Which uh Trevor Lawrence played probably one of his better games as a pro. Um, but he also had some weird mistakes in that game, too. It's like, hey, it's a whole Trevor Lawrence experience. And then you're looking at Seattle coming off of their loss to Tampa Bay, where it was a back and forth affair, and it was like honestly, I think Sam Darnold has really like established himself. Like, hey, he's really playing some very good football. And other than the one mistake he had with that pick at the end of the game, he was playing lights out in that game against Tampa Bay. So now you have this game coming in where Jack, I think I would give the I would kind of lean towards Jacksonville because I think their defense has a lot more to it where they're able to make some plays. Seattle just has so many dudes out, especially in their secondary, that just makes it a little bit harder, especially with them having to go all the way from Seattle all the way to Jacksonville. One of the largest road trips in all of the NFL when it comes to having to go from place to place. So I think it's a hard road trip. I think Seattle's coming off of it a little bit of emotional letdown with um losing to Tampa Bay the way they did last week, with them having a chance to win it at the end and didn't. And I think Jacksonville, and here's the one only problems with Jacksonville is that can I trust them on a week in, week out basis to go out and play the way that they are playing? And that's where I start to have some questions because I know Trevor Lawrence can give you that little bit of he can give you that hope. That one pass he made to Brian Thomas Jr. down the right sideline, it was a perfect freaking ball. But that same quarterback also tried to lean the football over the pylon uh earlier on in the game and got it swatted out of his hands. I'm like, it's that same quarterback that does both. So do I believe in Jacksonville enough to like put m stake something on it is where I'm kind of at. But I just think Jacksonville's defense just has a little bit more to has a little more fight to him. And I just think Seattle's defense is just nowhere near good enough, and I just don't think they're gonna be able to, unless Trevor Lawrence goes back to making a ton of mistakes again, which is definitely in his bag. I'm not saying that at all. Shane Waldron. Shane Waldron, okay.

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That's who it is. He was Seattle's coordinator from 2021 to 2023. And then before that he was the Bears coordinator in 2024.

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Okay.

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And then he was in 2022 horrendous. And then before that, he was with the Rams for 2017 to 2020.

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Okay. He did have Cooper Cup, so that made his job a little bit easier.

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True, but the Cooper Cup was better than Dev Shark. Yeah, it wasn't until 2020 when he had left that Cooper Cup got really good. That's the correlation that I made. Um then he was with the commanders before that.

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Okay.

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Sorry, I think he's fucking horrendous, and I think he's made a bunch of star receivers look bad over the last like five, six years.

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Um fact. I like it. It's a fun fact, I like it.

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My bad.

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I good addition, I didn't. That's something I didn't know.

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So I was like, who's your coordinator? I was like, because you have a different coordinators than you did last year. And that's the one that popped up, and I looked at it, I was like, oh, well, you're the one that's been fucking shit up. Because JSM for the last two years where he's been somebody else calling the plays. Yeah, he's been a whole lot better. Yeah, I agree. So I started tracking that back. That makes a lot more sense.

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That's good. I have to do that.

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Because he was also in college doing the same shit. But I wish I had my phone because I have it saved on there. My bad.

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Um I'm gonna take Jacksonville.

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Oh, crazy.

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You took Seattle?

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Yeah.

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I don't know, man. I I'm I just think their defense has a little more to it. I'll again I'll be I wouldn't be surprised if I lose if I lost on that. So it is what it is on that. Um, next game.

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Los Angeles Rams at the Ravens. I wrote you down for the Rams.

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I'm taking Rams, dude. It's the Baltimore's a clusterfuck, right?

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If you could give me a reason to pick the Baltimore Ravens, that'd be surprising. I I can't. Like that's a Ravens fan, I think.

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Their defense is super hurt. They don't have Lamar. I think this this last couple games have shown like how Lamar-centric they really are. Like without him, they can't do anything. They can't turn around and give Derrick Henry the ball. Like he had like 20 25 yards last week. So against Houston, again, Houston's defense is one of the best in the NFL. But they can't impose their will that way either with one of the best running backs in the NFL. I'm just like, it's a very bad. The only question for Baltimore is that once they have all their guys back, can they turn it around enough to even because let's be honest, they don't have a chance to get into the wild card record-wise. So they would have to win the AFC North in order to get to the playoffs. And again, the Steelers could fall to it.

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They could win the AFC North because they could crash.

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The Steelers can easily stub their toe and just like kind of limp into the rest of the season and give Baltimore a chance. But Baltimore has to be good enough to take it. And I'm just like, I'm worried about well, even once they get their guys back, whether they'll be good enough to do that. Like, that's my that's my issue. But I think LA Rams, with what Baltimore is right now, the LA Rams will come in and score at will against them.

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Next game you have Tennessee Titans at the Raiders. I took the Raiders because the Titans are that bad.

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Oh my only problem is I again I would love to pick Gino, but he's been playing so ass. He's been so bad.

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They have been, but the Titans have been worse.

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They have been, but they just got the win against the Cardinals. But again, is that even worth anything?

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Yeah, you're not wrong. Which they did, the Cardinals kind of rolled over and died. They didn't make it hard.

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Yeah. I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take Vegas. I'm gonna take Vegas. I just think even I I think they have I think Vegas has enough to win this football game. I think they do. As long as Gino doesn't go out there and throw a bunch of things.

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Yeah, I know. Next game, yeah. Knowing Joe Flacco is my starter, I'm picking Green Bay. Like, what the fuck am I supposed to do?

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Yeah, I think Green Bay, I think they're gonna have coming off of their bye, they're gonna come in. With a bad attitude, trying to get the bad taste of the loss against the Browns out of their mouth. So they're going to try to get that bad taste out of their mouth. Or is the Browns? No. They lost to the Browns. Yes, they did, but they beat to the Cowboys. Yes. That was their latest loss. And then they had their bye. I think they're going to want to try to get that taste out of their mouth. I think Michael Parsons is coming with a bad attitude. And do I think Cincinnati has anybody in the offensive line that can stop Micah Parsons? I don't think so. And I think Joe Flacco, like you said, is a statue back there. He's going to be a sitting duck. And I think Green Bay is going to take advantage of that. And I think Cincinnati's defense is bad, man. Cincinnati's defense is bad. They're not good. And Jordan Love, even though he's going to make some turnover-worthy plays, he's going to throw it, and one of your defense players is going to have it right in their hands and it's going to drop, and it's going to be like, oh. I think I heard somebody say that like Joe Jordan Love has a horseshoe up his ass because of how many times he throws the football to the other team and they just don't catch it, which is actually kind of funny because I went back and looked. He does have a lot of turnover turnover-worthy throws. That just doesn't happen. Because he's this lucky guy, but I just don't think I don't think Cincinnati has enough luck on their side to win this football game, man. So he's sorry.

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I picked Green Bay Sue.

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Yeah, Green Bay. Green Bay is my pick. Next game, San Fran at Tampa Bay.

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I pick Tampa Bay. I'm taking Tampa. San Fran has no one to throw the ball to, and their defense has gotten hurt.

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So And San Fran's still been finding ways to win football games, but I just think that.

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I think Tampa Bay is just on a roll.

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Tampa's on a roll. The Baker to Emecca is it's magical right now, man. It's magical. It's working. They really don't have like they don't have Mike Evans to throw to right now. They have Chris Hodan. Again, even he hasn't been looking all that great. It's been Emeka and they got the wide the young little small wide receiver from Oregon. I'm forgetting his name now. Oh no, because I was just looking at him. Oh no. Hold on, let me see. Uh Dev Char. I want to make sure I get his name because he was playing good last game. It is Oh no. Tez Johnson. The little guy from Oregon like they and Rashad White, because they don't even have Bucky Irving because he's dealing with injuries right now. And I just think that the way they're rolling right now offensively, if you give Baker a chance with the ball in his hands with a Mecca on the on his side to go win the football game at the end, they're going to do so. And I think San Fran, even though as much as you know Shanahan loves his automaton in Mac Jones, is go out there and just do what he says and they just throw the football to Christian McCaffrey all day with a few plays to some gnome name wide receivers. I think that Baker is just a little bit too much for that. Their offense is going to be a little too strong, and I don't think San Fran is going to be able to stop them. So Tampa Bay, I'm going to take them. I'm taking Detroit as well. I think Kansas City offensively is starting to find a little bit of a groove. I really do. I think I think I came to the conclusion last week before they lost to Jackson, like, oh, what if they they really just end up in the fucking Super Bowl again? And we have to watch them in the Super Bowl once again. I'm like, that would make me very upset. But I think defensively they're really they're really taking a step back. And even with offensively, they're able to, they're as good as they are looking. It is not the offense of four or five years ago where they were like one of the top in the NFL and they were able to carry the defense not playing that well. I think the defense for Kansas City can work well in spots, but it's not consistent enough to play against a team in Detroit that is in a groove right now offensively. So I think this game's gonna be a lot of points scored. I think this will be who has the ball last. And I think Detroit will be able to run the football just a little bit better and have control of the football game. So I'm taking Detroit to win.

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Next game you have Buffalo at Atlanta. I chose Buffalo.

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Buffalo coming off the bad loss to New England. I don't think that Josh Allen is gonna have the mistakes that he had last week again two games in a row, because I think he really has cleaned up the turnovers for the most part. So if Atlanta's not gonna be able to take out take advantage of any turnovers from Josh Allen and that team, I think Buffalo is just gonna be able to kind of run the football, kind of play their game. I think defensively, Atlanta's a little bit iffy. And I think Buffalo coming off of their loss gonna. Again, they have talented guys now, but it's just they gotta figure it out.

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But I think their talented guys are young on the front seven.

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Yeah, no, I agree. And here's the thing even if you get to Josh Allen, you have to bring him down. Again, he's Ben Rothesberger 2.0, man. And that's the problem. He he like holds the football more than like anybody else in the NFL. But you have to bring him down once you get there, and it's very hard to bring him down. And once he decides to run, he's running your ass over. So I think I'm gonna go with Buffalo.

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Next game you got Chicago out Washington.

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I'm taking Washington. I think that they have Jaden Daniels back.

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There it is.

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I'm not sure whether they have Terry McLaurin back yet or not.

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That's I just needed to know if Jaden Daniels was back. Oh no, he was back last week. See, I didn't know that. That's the only game I didn't pick. I didn't watch any NFL. I have no reason to anymore. Um I didn't pick the game, so I because I didn't know if Jaden was back yet.

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Terry is questionable. He was not practicing today. So probably not. So probably not. But guess what? Jaden Daniels with what they have at the running back room is gonna be enough to kind of and um Chris McCaffrey Luke McCaffrey, Chris McCaffrey's brother, he's playing good football and they're getting the ball to him.

SPEAKER_02: 1:35:50

I said this shit when he was coming out. I was like, hey, he was pretty fucking good. He played at rice, but he was good.

SPEAKER_03: 1:35:55

He's on a number one receiver, but again, he can be a guy to kind of help you out, especially with Jaden Daniels playing, he's a superstar-level quarterback when he's playing well, and I just think that the Chicago doesn't have anything to stop that. And I think this game might be a little bit more of a score one, but again, I there's one quarterback I believe in a lot more than the other, and I'm taking Jaden Daniels. He should be able to get the job done.

unknown: 1:36:17

I agree.

SPEAKER_03: 1:36:19

And that's all the games. Man, we're actually making good time today. Very good. Hour and a half, very lean. I like it. Very good. Heck, when you're here, it just keeps me a little bit more res um a little bit more honest. And it's very good stuff. So let's go ahead and not take any much take too much longer. Thank you guys for listening. Um, won the podcast here. Thank you guys for listening very much. If you've been listening for a while, we appreciate you just now joining in. Hopefully, you like us and enjoy us enough to join us on this ride of talking about sports in the dumbest way possible. If you do like us and enjoy us, we would appreciate if you could like our podcast, subscribe to the podcast, rate the podcast five stars wherever you listen to us. We're available on all audio platforms out there. So make sure you do that. Also, make sure you share us, friends, family, enemies, anybody you feel like could enjoy the podcast we put out on a weekly basis, a couple times a week, when especially during football season. We would love if you could do that. And last but not least, if you can follow us on Twitter and our ex um uh at Javante Boozer, sorry, at JB SportsPod is the podcast handle, at Javante Boozer is my handle, at Jace Boozer1 is Jace's handle, and I'll hand it over to Jace so he can finish off the pod.

SPEAKER_02: 1:37:27

This has been the JBS podcast. Thank you guys for listening. Guys for always listening. You guys have a nice day, a nice night. Bye.

SPEAKER_03: 1:37:33

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