JB's Sports Podcast
JB's Sports Podcast
From College Grit To NFL Chaos: Picks, Rants, And Reality Checks
A single night can change a legacy. Shohei Ohtani fanned 10 and launched three home runs on a postseason stage, and we unpack why that moment might settle the “best we’ve ever seen” argument. From there, we steer straight into a jam‑packed sports weekend: college football statements, NFL reality checks, and the messy gap between hype and truth.
We start with college ball where margins feel razor‑thin. Michigan State’s offense runs hot and cold, the defense springs leaks, and patience at quarterback is wearing thin. We scan the slate for real pivots: Indiana’s grown‑man physicality, Oklahoma’s hopes riding on Mateer’s thumb and poise, Alabama’s need to bury opponents early, Vandy’s swagger with Diego Pavia, and a sneaky Big Ten credibility test in Illinois vs Washington. Then it’s Ohio State: a defense that squeezes daylight out of drives, a QB who’s gone from point guard to playmaker, and receivers who tilt the field. In a 12‑team playoff world, perfection isn’t mandatory—but peaking is.
On Sundays, the truth gets louder. The Chargers hammered Minnesota while Carson Wentz’s shoulder and decision‑making unraveled, reopening the JJ McCarthy question. We go deep on Jonathan Taylor: elite or stat‑padded? His burst and YPC are real; the schedule caveats are too. We also zoom out: the Chiefs look like the Death Star again, San Francisco is squeezing every drop of value from its scheme, and Houston’s stellar defense is being squandered by an O‑line that can’t give CJ Stroud a chance. It’s a reminder that protection, situational mastery, and honest self‑scouting decide seasons more than slogans do.
Come for the picks, stay for the candor. We own our misses, flag traps, and point to where the numbers lie and where they don’t. If this blend of sharp analysis and unfiltered fandom hits the spot, tap follow, rate us five stars, and share with a friend who loves a good argument. What’s your boldest upset of the week? We’re ready to hear it.
Welcome back to Episode Podcast. Today's Friday, October the 24th. We're back for the podcast.
SPEAKER_03:We're back together. Doing what we do. Honestly, it's been a minute since we've done this together, so I'm definitely very excited for to have it. Let's see, we have a lot of things that come coming up this weekend when it comes to cosplay games, which isn't as crazy of a slate. NFL, a lot of games coming up, a lot of like pivotal games that could change seasons. And then we have the re recap of the game last night that we both picked the Chargers. You know what's crazy is that I picked the chart I picked the Chargers, but I had like a three-minute conversation with myself, like, oh, do I want to pick Minnesota? And then I finally came around to picking the right side of it. It was bad, and it looked even worse last night. So it definitely went our way there. But before we get to all that, I wanted to give you an opportunity to talk about whatever things you we missed that you potentially wanted to talk about. Um, I think you mentioned Michigan State before.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Um I don't know. I feel like our offense is very streaky and that our defense is horrendous.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I agree.
SPEAKER_02:But then we're consistent as Dick Marsh.
SPEAKER_03:True. That's your that's the offense right there. And Aiden Childs, when he is running around, when he's picking the right spots to like use his legs.
SPEAKER_02:No question.
SPEAKER_03:I totally agree.
SPEAKER_02:It's it's frustrating.
SPEAKER_03:It is, especially with him being the starter for the second year, you would think he'd take the next step. And at times it looks like he has, and then other times it's like, oh, I still still see the same guy that was going like that I saw playing last year.
SPEAKER_02:And again, everybody tells me this all the time. All every college football fan I talk to, they're like, hey, he's still young. I'm like, I understand, but he's now been in college for three years.
SPEAKER_03:Right, and now now starting for his second year in a row.
SPEAKER_02:So I understand he he just turned 20.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:But again, you've been in college since you were 17.
SPEAKER_03:No question. At some point you have to take the next step.
SPEAKER_02:I expect you to advance a lot faster than most do. And the fact you aren't is concerning to me.
SPEAKER_03:No, that's totally I totally agree. No, that makes total sense. Um, but yeah, again, I bet on Michigan State to win six games, so I'm definitely sitting here sweating it as well. Because you'd like to see your team in a bowl game, and I'd like to see my money come back to me.
SPEAKER_02:I just want a bowl game, okay? I'm not making it until fucking January. Right. That's not my team's fate. My team's fate is a bowl game. And right now, you lost two of the very pivotal games that would have got us to that bowl game.
SPEAKER_03:No question. I think they're sitting at four wins right now or three? Three. So it's not looking pretty right now. Hopefully they can turn it around. And I think they play Michigan this weekend, so it's not necessarily the greatest place to start to try to turn that around. But you know, there's always hope, I guess. And I here's the thing. Even though no, they're not really good at stopping the run either. I was sitting there about, oh, maybe Michigan just wants to keep the run going and Michigan State has a chance, but I'm like, it's just not looking because you know the run defense isn't that good either. So I I don't know. I I would I've been the one trying to like speak positivity and like having the good vibe with them with you, and realistic, man. You're realistic, and again, you're feeling that with your team when it comes to Michigan State, and I'm feeling with the Steelers. And we're feeling the same feeling for two totally different teams, but it's very similar. So totally agree with that.
SPEAKER_02:Um I think your team just can't decide if they're bad.
SPEAKER_03:You're yeah, you're telling me, man. I think I've decided they're bad. Even though they're probably not, but I want them to be. I I want them done with the season.
SPEAKER_02:George Pickens.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, as a number two in a time where he's getting fed. But here's the thing is that there were times where he wasn't bad with the Steelers either, and then he brought everybody in and then started starts playing like he was playing, and I always quote it going to to see the Steelers that night in a cold December day, and we watched I watched George Pickens not try at all in a football game. He was jogging, jogging the whole time. Didn't try.
SPEAKER_02:It was even worse than it is on TV because then like they kind of cut him out a little bit. Yeah, no, you can see it see it the whole time. He was not jogging. Did you see that the Bengals benched Cam Taylor Britt? Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Heck, for a while they were benching the other guy that you Logan Wilson. They benched him and didn't make him a starter, which is kind of leading to why he's asking for a trade now. That makes total sense.
SPEAKER_05:I don't get it.
SPEAKER_03:I I think they wanna they wanted him to sit because they wanted to get the young guy in. I think not Brandon I was the other guy they were bringing in, but I'm just like, I don't know. It doesn't make any sense. Like, you need to have a little bit of veteran leadership on your team, and like without him, it's pretty much Hutchinson, who's everybody knows is not gonna be there next year. So like you can't have a whole defense of dudes that like are like have no leaders that haven't done it long enough for deep like in the NFL to make any type of impact.
SPEAKER_02:So heck, there's no one that's very tenured on the Bengals. Um, the most tenured dude is Drew Sample. Yeah. Six years is the most tenured play. My bad. Seven years is the most tenured plant player on the Bengals.
SPEAKER_03:What is that?
SPEAKER_02:Who Drew Sample from OZ.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they drafted him. Yeah, another puck guy.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That's our most tenured player? And he's a second or third string tight end?
SPEAKER_02:He's our third string tight end. What the fuck?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Really second right now, because they don't use Gaseki at all. And I think he got hurt too, so he's done for the rest of the year.
SPEAKER_02:Uh Noah Fant. Phase his out. Uh E fucking immediately. I forgot how good Noah Fant really was.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, he really is, especially when he gets into it, gets to a team that can actually throw the football consistently. He does get injured quite often, though. That is very much the case. And then the last thing I want to talk about before we get to everything this weekend, Shohei, you tell me that this is too hard too harsh of a not harsh, but too uh um too far, going too far with the statement that Shohei might be the best player we have ever seen. Slash, could be the best player of all time if what if everything goes correctly.
SPEAKER_02:Show Tani probably is the best, greatest player, baseball player of all time.
SPEAKER_03:When he fanned the 10 that night and then hit the three home runs all in the same night, that's it. Like again, us with us being Judge fans, like you would because Judge is like awesome, right? He's done it every year, he's practically been an MVP every season. I think he's probably won MVP again this year. And then you see him, like, so you like to like say, Oh, Judge is awesome, he's great, and then you see Shohei did what he did that night, and I came to the conclusion that like there is no argument anymore. Like, there is no argument to be to be made. You're you're not gonna be able to find another person to go out there and do what he did on that night in one of the biggest moments in the NL uh uh the National League champ championship series. And like that's what he did. He's fanned 10 as the pitcher and then hit three home runs. Like that doesn't just happen. Like that that's some legendary shit.
SPEAKER_02:Like, that's it is a spectacle to bolt.
SPEAKER_03:It's one of those like where were you moments? Like, where were you when that when that thing happened? I was at Twin Peaks. That's that's like that's what that's what that is. Like, that's it's one of those moments. And for Shohei, even so young in his in in MLB career, to have that type of moment in that in that spot, like heck, they might be on the in the on the road to winning another World Series two years in a row. Probably, for sure. So against Toronto, so I'm like, if that if it all works out their way, like this is like that's a moment that I just think that is gonna go down and stand this test of time, to be totally honest with you. And I don't know. And I'm not mad about it because I again, as much as I hate the Dodgers in general for doing what they're doing and becoming the new Death Star, but doing it the way they're doing is insane with every player just being okay with not getting their money how they how they're supposed to. They're like, oh, I'll wait, I'll take the the money 20 years down the road because I don't have to pay as much taxes on it. That's great, awesome. And it's just that part makes me upset, but like watching show, hey, do what he's do what he's doing. Watching a player like that be as dominant as he is is not something that makes me fearful. It's almost I'm almost appreciative to a certain degree. Because this it's like that type of player having that type of moment is just a very rare find. And I'm glad that we were around to be able to witness it because they'll be talking about that a hundred years from now. Like, hey, this is the 6'7 Japanese dude changed the game of baseball forever and kind of destroyed the sport because of what he can do pitching and hitting. So I just I just want to make sure I had gave you an opportunity to kind of at least try to talk me off the ledge, but you know, obviously it seems like you're on the same ledge as me. But uh, no, he's he's awesome, man.
SPEAKER_02:It's it's an awesome it is a spectacular. Uh one thing, did you see uh German prime minister said let's make Germany great again? No uh I'm I'm so serious. And everybody was like, uh everybody was like, don't say that. And they were like, why? America says it. They're like, it's not okay when America says it, but it's worse when you say it. Because when you were at your greatest, you were at your worst. Don't say that. Uh sorry, it was something on Twitter I saw the other day. Oh, yeah, and I had never I started laughing so hard. I was crying.
SPEAKER_03:That's just not like you have to have a little just a tad bit of self-awareness.
SPEAKER_02:Well, the first comment under the post was, Does he like to paint? And I was like, That's that's probably the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life.
SPEAKER_03:I I was having this c this conversation with myself. Do you think that any one person can be a hundred percent self-aware at all times? Because I feel like if you are, you're not living the life around you, right? So I was like having this moment, I'm like, oh, as much as I think I'm a self-aware person, but I'm like, to a certain degree, if you want to enjoy the life that you're living in the very moment, you can't always be self-aware. Sometimes you have to like lose yourself in the moment. And I was sitting there like, oh, like maybe it is like one of those things where some people just can't like go outside of what they're looking at right at the moment, and just kind of say something stupid or like live, but it's a very weird scenario to be like, hey, we live in a time where if you do have a moment that you're just not thinking, it can become your worst or your most amazing moment all at the same time. It's a it's a it was a weird concept I was thinking of the other day for some crazy reason. I'm not sure what kind of made me go down that rabbit hole.
SPEAKER_02:Sorry, I I just saw I saw that on Twitter. Well, that's hilarious. Well, I was watching um Japan got the first ever female prime minister. Oh um, it's just she doesn't like same-sex marriage, she doesn't like uh spouses having two different last names, and she doesn't like that there's bathrooms for foreigners. And I and the first comp was one step forward, three steps back, and I was like, that's crazy. Uh I was like, that's so crazy. Oh uh and I it was so progressive, and then the prompts kept popping up, and I was like, please stop. Yeah, and then the German one came up, and I just yeah, started crying. Uh sorry. Sometimes my Twitter's full of politics. I like I don't really like watching the news because it makes me say it. Yeah, me too. And Twitter makes things funny.
SPEAKER_03:At least, yeah, you're at least getting a little bit of funny with it. Yeah. Yeah, no question. But yeah, it was you know that that's a wild again. It's like it it's almost like when you put these people in these very high positions, you have to sort of remember they're people. They're normal people.
SPEAKER_02:They're there is they're probably a little smarter than the average person. Or they're not, or maybe they're not, like but again, it's just a normal person. He what he said was not a bad thing.
SPEAKER_03:But again, he just had a moment where he lacked all self-awareness.
SPEAKER_02:And commentation of okay, you know, I I see what you're doing there.
SPEAKER_03:If you had a second to think about it, you probably wouldn't have said that.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's the thing, it's hard to think about something that they don't teach.
SPEAKER_03:Right, yeah, no question. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:People from Germany have no clue about it. Isn't that weird though? Or it's like the importance on it isn't as high. No, they just don't talk about it. I was watching a video about it. Uh not Germany, but Japan. Uh-huh. A girl was like, Yeah, I we we never learned about World War II. Just like it wasn't our clear in our curriculum at all. She was like, we went to Taiwan as a class trip and they hated us, and no one could figure out why. And then somebody explained it to us. She was like, I had no clue Japan did all those awful things. So I looked it up. They don't teach it at all.
SPEAKER_03:Or just like hearing what about Britain, uh uh, sorry, little England. They don't really teach about, you know, so like a lot of the stuff they don't yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And it one, it showed a lot. Two, America teaches all about the bad stuff they did.
SPEAKER_03:Heck, they're trying to go backwards. They're trying to like, oh, we don't want to talk about all these terrible things that have happened.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, it's um it's history. There's a whole class in in America. It's a mi sorry, I keep saying in America. We don't have a lot of American viewers, so I keep saying in America. Um it's funny we have a lot of German viewers. Uh we have some German viewers, but we're even getting to more Americans too. But like just way it's been tracking. There's a whole class called American History where we learn all about American history from the start. We learn from everything. But to think that you guys cut out a section of like 30, 40 years of your of your culture, yeah, of your history, yeah, and just don't talk about it.
SPEAKER_03:You know what's crazy is that maybe it's because they've because so many more countries have been around for so much longer than America. We are a very new country, very new in comparison to everybody else. So, like, oh, these 40-50 years are nothing to you because you've been around for a thousand years. Which is true. Not a thousand, but that's the thing, hundreds of years.
SPEAKER_02:To those specific countries, those 40-50 years are very, very important to the rest of the world. Yeah, no question. And the fact it's not important to you is crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Especially when it impacts so many other countries.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, there's countries around you that do not like you, like Taiwan, like the Philippines, uh, even like Korea, they can't stand Japan because Japan was so awful to Korea when they occupied them. Uh, and y'all don't know that?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. It's just one of those. It's like one of the, like, uh, what is it? It's all the books. It's all the post-apocalyptic, or what is it? Uh, what's the genre? But it's the books where like, hey, they delete whatever history they want, and then we just tell you what we want you to hear. Yes, a dystopian, dystopian books.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:And it's just like one of those.
SPEAKER_02:Uh like the giver. Yes. It's exactly what it's like. Only one person has all the knowledge of the world.
SPEAKER_03:Or is it another book off Fahrenheit? Uh Fahrenheit 451. Yes, that too.
SPEAKER_02:That one is a great book. If you ever, it's exact almost very similar to what it is. Yeah. Uh it's a great book. I read that in high school and it was actually worth the read. Very, very much worth it. That's on my bookshelf, funny enough. It's a great, great book. Yeah. Another great book.
SPEAKER_03:Um, but it's yeah, and it's like I just thought it was weird because I I was just I started paying attention to it.
SPEAKER_02:And it's like a group of YouTubers I like watching, right? They have a German friend, and somebody made a made a joke about it, and it was like, I don't get it. And they were like, What? And they go, Retrox, you don't understand the joke? And he's like, No, I don't get it. So it's like a little awkward having to explain it. I shit you not.
SPEAKER_03:Like he leaves this all in the video, but there is a like silence. 'Cause somebody needs to take to say the first word of trying to figure out how to put this.
SPEAKER_02:No one knows how to break it. Yeah. And one of them has a face cam on, right? Because I I watched his video right after that. Right. This dude sends him a text. What do we do? And one dude who's like, all right, back to the game, and just mold right over it. Yeah. Now the YouTuber that he's only 20.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And I'm like, dude.
SPEAKER_03:So maybe because he obviously went through schooling, if the schooling wasn't gonna teach you, and then you're not really interested in that, like going to find him is not right.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. Because they they probably like uh on YouTube, you know, there's certain World War II videos, they don't get them over there. You need VPN to get them.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, that makes sense. Because uh blocking of information.
SPEAKER_02:No, um, oversimplified does the history videos, right? He's from Germany, all of his World War II videos are banned in Germany. That would make a lot of sense.
SPEAKER_03:Just like just how like uh China gets a different TikTok than what we get.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, you need a VPN to even see him. Right. I'm guessing Japan's the same way. Again, they control so much of the information. Yeah, sorry. They can control it. But it's just something interesting I was interested in the last couple days.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, just like the perspective, because of how connected the whole world is, so you just sometimes you need to be even more perceptive to the idea that the perspective of every single person is very different. Yes, especially when you're talking about people from different countries, different parts of the world.
SPEAKER_02:So, as connected as the world is, the world is just as disconnected when it comes down to individual parts of that country.
SPEAKER_03:Right. It's almost like you have to judge everybody else's algorithm before you even start a conversation because it'd be like, oh, if I say that's one thing, it could be coming off as totally something totally different.
SPEAKER_02:But it also makes way you have to understand your own algorithm algorithm just as much.
SPEAKER_03:You have to understand your own your own deficiencies in what you do or don't see in your own world in order to be able to connect with somebody else's. Yeah. It's insane. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_02:Sorry, it was just weird because you say I feel like Americans are some of the people that understand deficiencies the most about their country. Right. Which makes it a lot easier for us to understand deficiencies about other countries as well. Right. But we also are blind to a lot of the other deficiencies in our own country.
SPEAKER_03:And that yeah, and then we're also blind to the idea that maybe you need to have a little bit of pride in your country, which is something a lot of other countries have.
SPEAKER_02:And that Americans do not have.
SPEAKER_03:We do not have pride in our own country in the same way that other countries have pride in their own, which somehow it does make their countries better, but it also makes them blinder. Yeah, them blinder, but also for us, it makes us overly negative. Yes. To where maybe we should be a little more positive about what we do have.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly Mundo.
SPEAKER_03:It's it's it's there is positives here.
SPEAKER_02:There is despite everything, we are free. Yes, there is no content is not restricted.
SPEAKER_03:As long as you're not yelling fire in the middle of a movie theater, you're cool. You you can say the things that you want and hopefully not get killed for them. But you know, that's been different as of recently.
SPEAKER_02:It's such a mixed bag. My bad. Such a mixed bag. Oh, yeah, no question.
SPEAKER_03:That it was something like hey, no, it's all good. All right, let's get to the sports now. What were we actually here to do? My bad. It was I I No, no, it was actually a very good way to start the conversation. Seriously.
SPEAKER_02:I realized that man, they really don't learn about that. That was that's one of my favorite segments of history to learn about, even desp no matter how weird it is. World War II is a very interesting segment of history because it's oh yeah, almost a catac a cataclysm. Cataclysmic cataclysmic event that propelled everything else so much further forward. It's yeah, one of those moments. And it's such a the technology that came from World War II that advanced so quickly. So there's times where I think if this war didn't happen, would we be further back? Uh Fallout is a great example of that. World War II doesn't happen. World War I and II don't happen, so they don't advance past the 50s. Everything stays the same. They figure out everybody figures out nukes, but no one knows the destructive force out of them. So they start thawing them at each other and it destroys everything. That's why that's just something that I was thinking about. My bad.
SPEAKER_03:That's crazy. My bad. I no, don't say you're bad. That's a b that's a good part of this podcast we don't get when I'm just sitting here talking to sports about myself.
SPEAKER_02:I know, it's just like I was playing a bunch of fallout, and then I realized all that, and I realized that fallout is what happens when there is no World War One or World War II. Right. No one does any fighting until they didn't do any fighting until like 20 it was 2024 when they dropped the first bomb and they just started hurling them bitches because they didn't know they destroyed a force of them. Right. They didn't know what it did when one was dropped. Because they were only ever using desert areas where there's nothing out there anyway. Nothing. Yeah, no question. So they started dropping a bunch of them, and then everyone's like, oh, there's radiation.
SPEAKER_03:Everybody's down at once.
SPEAKER_02:That was my bad.
SPEAKER_03:No, not your bad at all. Seriously, that was good. Um, football. Let's go ahead and go with the uh all the college ball games. I'm just gonna run through them, talk about them real quick. Hopefully, not go too long. I'm just gonna keep try to keep it nice and short and sweet. Uh we'll just go by the time they sorry, the times they come on, just kind of go that way. Uh UCLA, Indiana, that game happens at noon. UCLA is on their run being three wins in a row after winning the after losing their first four games of the season.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Is UCLA because UCLA is playing a lot better football. But are they going to be able to do anything against the Indiana team that looks other outside of uh other than Ohio State, has looked the best this season. They have been they had the one game against Iowa that was very close. They probably should have lost, but other than that, Indiana is taking care of business everywhere else, even including Oregon, where they took care of business and beat Oregon by double digits in their house. So if I'm looking at it, Indiana should win this game pretty handily, but can UCLA with the different the uh the changes that they have made through to their season so far to where they won the last three games, can they make it a much different make something different out of this than what we think? I doubt it, because I just think Indiana's that good. Kurt Signetti, the head coach there, he's gonna be there for a while, knows what he's doing. That team is a very veteran team, so I just think Indiana should probably, especially Indiana being at home, they don't have to go across the country to go play at UCLA. They get to be in the stay on their own beds, be in their own house. I think Indiana wins that game. Next one, Ole Miss Oklahoma. That's a ranked-on-ranked matchup. Oklahoma has been looking not as great since John Mateer came back with the thumb injury. Uh, I think the first game that they had back that he it was the Texas game where he threw those picks, and then I think it was last week. He played better against South Carolina, but again, South Carolina is terrible. So can he be like 80% of what he what he needs to be in order for that team to go where it needs to go? Because I think Oklahoma offensively, they're very dependent on Mateer to do what they want to do. Defensively, Oklahoma's awesome. But now they're faced off against an Ole Miss team that as good as I think Oklahoma's defense is, I don't think they'll totally be able to lock down Ole Miss from being able to score at all. So can John Mateer get that offense going for Oklahoma enough for them to win this game? Because I do think Oklahoma's defense is going to have a pretty good time of at least limiting Ole Miss in their quarterback, Trinidad Chambliss. But the question is, is that can Oklahoma take with John Mateer take advantage of the Ole Miss defense that is not all that good? Uh I would oh I think OU is the favorite. I would pick them to probably win this game. But if Mateer doesn't play the way he needs to, I could totally see Ole Miss coming out and get making enough plays offensively to win the game if Oklahoma offensively is not going to do their thing. Next one we got is let's go to um Bama, South Carolina. Bama should win this game pretty easily. Just like I said with Oklahoma playing South Carolina last week, as long as Alabama takes them out early, quick strikes, goes and gets a lead early, I don't say I don't think South Carolina has a team that can come back from any type of deficit. So as long as even with Alabama not necessarily having as good of a defense as a team like Oklahoma, I just think that South Carolina's offense does not have the firepower to be able to come back from any type of real deficit. So as long as Alabama does not let South Carolina hang around in this game, they should be able to run away with this game pretty easily, even if there are they are at South Carolina. Next one's Missouri Vanderbilt. This is a ranked-on-ranked matchup. Vanderbilt coming off of their pretty dominant win over LSU. People are starting to take them a lot more seriously now. Vanderbilt's in their second game at home. And then they have a Missouri team coming in that is not all that great defensively. Offensively, Missouri can struggle at times that they can't run the football. But I think these teams are very closely talent. They're very very close talent-wise. But I will say, with Vanderbilt, with um why am I forgetting their quarterback's name? Uh with Diego Pavia, I just think he's a dog. I just think he in the big moments likes to show up. And other than the Alabama game this year, where he threw those two picks in the red zone, he has played a very awesome, he's had a very awesome year so far this year. So as long as he doesn't make the crazy mistakes, I do think Vandy could definitely win this game. But the question is, can they slow down Missouri's running rushing offense enough? Because I just don't think Missouri can be a drop back team. If there's any type of deficit Missouri is under, they're not coming back because of how inconsistent they have, the how inconsistent Bo Pabula is as their quarterback. So if they can keep Missouri's offense from being able to run the football, I do think that Vanderbilt has a really good chance to win this game and taking another another step towards like really being a team that people are starting to be scared of, even though I don't think Vanderbilt's gonna go through the rest of their schedule being only six, being only one loss on the year. But it's just saying I don't think Missouri is consistent enough for me to think that uh Missouri's gonna win that game. Next game we got is number 23, Illinois at Washington. This is the I only mention this game because Illinois is a ranked team being ranked at number 23. What Washington's unranked. They're coming off of, I think they're off, they have two losses on the year so far, those two losses being into Ohio State and Michigan. But otherwise, they've looked at looked like a very good team. Illinois has their losses against Indiana and to Ohio State, but they like both of these teams have kind of been flirting with being right outside the top 25 and then getting right inside the top 25, kind of been going back and forth. I do think this game is important because we need one more team to be a good team in the Big Ten to kind of give the Big Ten some type of real respect throughout the country. Because the Big Ten does have Ohio State, they do have Oregon, they do have Indiana, but outside of that, everybody looks at the Big Ten as if they're trash and there's really nobody else outside the top three. And I just think we need that fourth team that'll at least solidify the Big Ten enough for people to respect those teams at the top of the Big Ten to be able to say, oh, they are facing some good teams in that conference, rather than saying like the old news of saying, oh, the SEC is the best conference ever, and every other conference they're playing bullshit schedules because the teams their conference aren't good. So I think it's a very important game. I hope it's a close game, but I think either way that goes, that the winning team of that game will be able to kind of like catapult themselves into being kind of like that fourth team in the Big Ten for the Nat for the nation to look out for when it comes to playoff implications and stuff like that. I do kind of lean towards Washington a little bit, but I think Illinois has enough defensively to kind of make Washington look bad, so I'll go Illinois. Why not? I'll believe in Illinois. I think Illinois has a little better quarterback, more consistent quarterback play. So I'll go with Illinois. Next one we got is don't care about that one. Texas Tech, Oklahoma State. Um, Texas Tech coming off of their first loss of the year, can they kind of have a bounce back spot here against Oklahoma State? Is my biggest question. Texas Tech is still a very talented team. They had a bad week. Hopefully they can kind of get back to doing what they need to do. Oklahoma State's really not a good team. So as long as Tex Tech take care of business, they'll be sitting in the like not necessarily in the driver's seat, but they're in position to get everything they want to get from this season if they just get back to their winning ways and win the game like they're supposed to. Uh Texas, number 22, Texas, going to Mississippi State. I would thank the Lord if Mississippi State can beat this Texas team, so I don't have to see them in the playoff. Texas is trash. Their offense is absolutely putrid, but their defense is awesome. Their defense is very good. And the problem is that the Texas defense is good enough to keep them in these games they probably don't need to be kept in. And they give them a chance to actually win these games, they probably shouldn't win. And I just don't want to see them in the playoffs because they're just going to be playing who they want to play in the first round, and they're going to get beat up on because their offense is nowhere near consistent enough to go play the top the best teams in the country. So I would love for Texas to endure one or two more losses to get them out of the playoff conversation so I don't have to deal with them anymore. Because it's just every time I get any type of thought, like, oh, maybe Texas can be different, they're not. Arch is not. Like, it's not any different, and I just need some teams to kind of knock them out of this whole thing so I don't have to worry about them anymore. And I think Mississippi State is a good enough team to do it. The question is, can they get anything going offensively against this very good Texas team? Is probably the biggest question. But I do think Mississippi State has a very good advantage at home because though have you heard of tech have you heard of Mississippi State game with them doing all the cowbells in their stadium? I have. Insane, very hard to hear. So maybe with their home environment, they can kind of pull off the upset there. Next one, Wisconsin, Oregon. Oregon should win this game handedly. Wisconsin is awful coming off of so many losses, but Oregon just kind of needs to keep this thing going, keep it moving. Oregon loves beating up on teams that aren't as good as them, so I do think it's going to be a pretty easy matchup. But again, we've seen crazier things happen, so I'm just hoping that Oregon kind of stays on the path because as much as I would love to see Oregon not make the playoff, it only makes Ohio State look worse if the rest of the Big Ten teams suck. Next one, Stanford. They came off a big win against Florida State last week. You Have Miami coming off of their big loss against Louisville last week. Can Miami kind of get things back in order? They're 28 and a half point favorites. So if if they could just get back on the horse and do what they need to do and Carson Beck not throw four interceptions, they should win this game going away. It shouldn't be very easy. But if Carson Beck's going to keep throwing picks and kind of giving the ball to the other team, even though I think Stanford's awful, I don't think that they're going to be able to come out unscathed if Carson Beck's going to keep playing as badly as he has, especially in that game last week against Louisville. But again, Louisville's a lot better team. So, you know, I think it's you kind of have to weigh that as to how much help a team like Stanford would need to go beat a team like Miami, especially when they're playing at Miami. But I just think I need to see Miami get back off the mat, play a little better football, Carson Beck, and all of that. So that's what I'm hoping for from Miami, even though I would love to see Miami lose, because that's that's great for me too. Next game, Tex AM. LSU. This is a ranked-on-ranked matchup. AM being number three, LSU being number 20. Brian Kelly for LSU might be coaching for his job in this game. If they lose it, this will be their third or fourth loss on the year. This will be their third loss on the year, and a team that people were a lot of people were thinking could be title hopefuls, and they're not looking anywhere near that right now. Their offense is terrible. Garrett Nutsmeyer, their quarterback, is hurt and not playing well. Their offensive line is terrible as well. Their defense is good, though. They've switched that, but they gave a defense that they should have had years ago when they had Jaden Daniels on his Heisman run. That if they had this defense then, they would be probably a championship-winning team. But they are not that. And now their defense is okay, but their offense is terrible. So I think they really need this game against Tex AM for Brian Kelly to keep his job. But again, if they do want to get rid of him, it's a very big buyout. So that's a question they're going to have to answer, whether they want to give him that much cash to go away. But again, if he beats Tex AM, I think he'll be safe for the year. But if he doesn't, which I don't think they will, because I think Tech AM, even though their defense is not all that good, I think their offense for Tex AM is explosive enough and can score enough points to put pressure on LSU to where I just think that AM might be a little too much for LSU for this game. But, you know, crazier things have happened. But I do lean Tech S AM to win that game. Michigan State, Michigan going to Michigan State, this is something in your favor, at least, Chase. They'll be at home. Can the defense wake up and do something in this game? Is something is a question I don't think will be answered all that well on Saturday night. The real question is, can Michigan State offensively, Nick Marsh, go out there and make some plays to kind of make this game a little bit closer? Make Michigan have to throw the football a lot more than they probably want to. And I think that might be your chance to win because I just don't think your D your your defense is going to be able to lock down Michigan whatsoever. So I think the real plan that you should be going for is hoping that it's a high-scoring affair and hope that Michigan can't keep out the output. Because I think it's where Michigan has gotten in trouble so far this year is when they try to throw the football too much and not like stick to their run first type of mentality. So Bryce Underwood, as good as he is, he's still a freshman and he still has those freshman tendencies. So making him have to throw 30-something times in a game will more often than not lead to a few mistakes that'll help your team out. Do I feel great about it? No. But I do think there is a pathway to win if they stick to it, but it's just how likely are they to? And that's where I kind of have to sit on the outside and be like, ah, I I'm hoping for it. My heart is with Michigan State to win this game because I would love to see Michigan lose. But, you know, it's it's gonna be an uphill battle for sure. And does that seem too off on that?
SPEAKER_02:I don't think it'll be an uphill battle. I think we're gonna lose is outright. I think the Michigan team is better than that. I think they're horrendous.
SPEAKER_03:They do have the one wide receiver that's been playing well, though. Yeah, but I'm forgetting his name. Not Donovan McCully. It's the other guy. He's like the freshman. Now I gotta check it. It's Andrew Marsh. They have their own Marsh. Uh their their guy, Andrew Marsh, was has been looking very good, but outside of that, they really haven't had a lot of consistency at the wide receiver position. But you know, again, I'm hoping for the best. I really am, because I'd love to see Michigan lose. I'd love to go to our boy and be like, hey, uh, that's a that's a bad one to take, huh?
SPEAKER_02:Well, they got fucked up by um UCLA.
SPEAKER_03:Who? Michigan played UCLA?
SPEAKER_02:Michigan State did.
SPEAKER_03:Michigan hasn't. Michigan played Washington and beat them 24-7.
SPEAKER_02:Oh shit, they're gonna talk about UCLA. Uh but if Michigan, if they lose to Michigan State, oh, I would be up there.
SPEAKER_03:I know tomorrow. I know, I know. He was chatting shit, man. I I hope I hope for your sake that they manage to pull off the upset. I really do. Uh, next game we got is Tennessee going to Kentucky. Tennessee should win this game pretty handedily. But again, Kentucky has proven to be a harder place to play, especially at night. Can Tennessee get off the mat of having their loss last week to Alabama? Yeah, it was to Alabama. Can they get off the mat, play some little like more consistent football offensively and defensively? Um, I think they have more, their team is more than good enough to make get the job done, but you know, we've seen teams lay some eggs recently, so that is at least a conversation to be had. And then last but not least, uh, we got Houston going to Arizona State. Arizona State coming off of their big win against Texas Tech. Can they kind of like crawl their way back into prominence nationally? Because everybody was so big on BYU because they were undefeated, and then you had Texas Tech because of how they were looking so far this year, and it's just kind of Arizona State had a moment where they weren't really talked about, even if they only had the two losses that they had. So can they kind of keep some momentum going to kind of really crawl their way back into national prominence, be it at the top of the Big 12? That is something that they're playing for for the rest of their year to be able to kind of be become that team again when a lot of people were just kind of like off Arizona State, even though Arizona State made the playoff last year and they looked as good as as good as they did for most of the year. But again, losing Cam Scattaboo, one of their bet their best player last year, and losing some other guys has did kind of take away some of the shine that they had from the year before. So that's another big one. I hope I I I probably would lean towards Arizona State winning that game because I just don't think Houston has a good defense at all. And I do think Arizona State will have at least some type of offensive production that'll kind of put them on top in this game.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think so.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, does Jordan Tyson play their their wide receiver? That is somebody that I that I seen was hurt. So if he doesn't play, that'll be a lot more a lot bigger of a battle to have to take on. But hopefully they'll have him be able to win this game. That's all I got for the college football, college football games. Don't really have no Ohio State this week because they're on their second bye week. Again, you know I love talking about Ohio State when I have an opportunity to, but guess what? They're just taking care of business and taking out everybody that on their schedule so far. They have Penn State next week. They'll be taking this bye week, hopefully getting healthy. And by the time they play against Penn State this time, next week, they'll be not this time, but in eight days, they'll be ready to go, take out Penn State early, and make them look like the terrible team they have been this year. So that's what I'm hoping for. Because last year, when they were riding high, and then they had their second bye of the year against, and then they came back and played Nebraska, and they pretty much had their worst game of the season outside of Michigan, and it made everybody really scared. So I hope that they don't they have the right mentality with this taking this time off, being ready to go, and by the time they come out to play Penn State next week at home, they'll be ready to take care of business, take care of Penn State early and get the backups in as soon as possible. That's all I'm hoping for, man. So oh, so are you are you okay if I have the mentality that Ohio State might really go back to back this year? Am I totally off base? Because I'm really like, I think the nation's starting to get behind me on this, but like they're with the way their defense is looking, and one of the main things you talked about was a weakness for Ohio State, was will they let Julian Sand throw the football? And they have. Last week what they did again did to Wisconsin was murder. And I think even though a lot of people were like, oh, he's just a point guard in this offense, I really do think the more they let put on his plate, he's really starting to show more and more of his talents. And I think with that, he can become not only the point guard, but he can become a real star in this offense, even amongst the crazy stars that we already have being Jeremiah Smith, Carnell Tate. And as long as we can get our right guard spot fixed, I think we are like we are on a different level than anybody else in college football.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah. I'm not gonna fault you for saying that, and I can't fault you for saying that. I've watched you guys play. Truly, you are ahead above the rest. You just are. I've watched everybody else play. Uh a lot of their teams have a lot of great pieces. Like um Kade Klubnick is very, very good.
SPEAKER_03:Awful this year, but yeah, it's fine.
SPEAKER_02:But he like yeah, he is very, very good. Um but Clemson as a whole was bad.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um Texas is nil. Uh Alabama's nil.
SPEAKER_03:They're not nil. They're they're coming back, but it's just like they lost very badly to Florida State at the beginning of the year.
SPEAKER_02:Their receiver is concussed.
SPEAKER_03:He's fine now. He had a good game last game. So he's fine. Williams.
SPEAKER_02:Brian Williams is his name. Yes. But they have a few other guys, too, that are very good. They're fine. They're fine. Our defense ain't that good. But the defense is Georgia's fine.
SPEAKER_03:Their defense is nowhere near as good as it's been in the past.
SPEAKER_02:What, past ten years? Their defense is horrendous compared to the rest of them. No question. Um I see every other team in college football, and I'm like, the rest of you are fine. None of you are you all are missing. A lot of them don't have a quarterback. Uh a lot of them don't have the offensive pieces. They're all fine. There's not a fucking DB safety and linebacker combo in this country that can stop Jeremiah Smith.
SPEAKER_03:And Carnell Tate. Carnell Tate's having the more touchdowns. Guess what? Everybody wants to put so much towards Jeremiah that guess what? A lot of the times he's looking at you saying, hey, there's a guy down there behind you that's make mossing people.
SPEAKER_02:He he's 15 yards downfield.
SPEAKER_03:He had top two Wisconsin players last game.
SPEAKER_02:I watched it. It's insane. I watched that shit and turned the fucking game off. Like I'm done with this shit.
SPEAKER_03:Um, and believe me, I You're the first one to like want to temper any type of expectations when I'm kind of getting this point. But it's like of any team that has a chance to be a real monster, it's only Ohio State.
SPEAKER_02:There's nothing for me to temper when that defense is elite. They choke you out.
SPEAKER_03:On a weekly basis, they are gonna put a pillow over your face and say, we're just gonna sit here and hold this until you you're done.
SPEAKER_02:There's truly, even if you do get the red zone, you're not fucking scoring.
SPEAKER_03:They've given up one red zone touchdown this year.
SPEAKER_02:You can't run the ball, you can't throw the ball, there's nowhere to go.
SPEAKER_03:Do you know how many uh do you know what's the average amount of points Ohio State's given up this year? 14? Six. Fucking six points a game is what they've given up this year. There's only one team that scored more than 10 against Ohio State. Like, what are we doing? It's just it's just like we lost our defense coordinator. He goes to Penn State and sucks ass. We bring in a an NFL defensive coordinator and Matt Patricia, and our defense looks insane. We have two freaking aliens at linebacker with Arvell Reese and Sonny Styles. Caleb Downs has been no like Arvell Reese and Sonny Styles have been so good. Nobody talks about Caleb Downs because he's the eraser. But guess what? There's nothing to fucking erase because nothing's getting past anybody. And I'm just it's making Caleb Downs a top five pick look like, oh, we're not really saying Caleb Downs' name too much. Because guess what? He's not messing up, and there's nothing, there's nothing around him that he has to clean up because of how good the rest of our defense is.
SPEAKER_00:No one's downfield.
SPEAKER_03:No one's downfield. And our our corners are like insane. It's it's it's a it's a weird feeling that we I haven't had in a minute where I'm like, again, of all the problems I said with our team, our only problem is our right guard. That's it. That's we get that fixed. There literally is no imperfection on this football team. Maybe the running backs, but we have the good running backs on our team. Bo Jackson. He's gonna be a market. He's like the next sequence.
SPEAKER_02:And the fact that I think it was like second or third week where he got the bulk of the carries, not a motherfucker. Showed out. Oh my god. There's I I have nothing to say. I wanted to see Julian Sand light it up. He lit it up. Uh I have I I had no questions about your defense. It was your offense I had questions about. Yeah. But I wasn't questioning your receivers.
SPEAKER_03:Nothing questioned about them. It's just getting the quarterback getting it too.
SPEAKER_02:And that was that's all I had. I have nothing left for you. Your defensive line, them all being transfers. That's what I had a question about.
SPEAKER_03:Um sucking the life out of everybody, dude. Putting the pillow over their face and says, hey, we're just gonna hold this here until you want to stop fighting. That's it. It's crazy. And then the offense could just throw knockout punches all day long. It's gonna it's awesome. It's awesome. Alright, that's it. Scotch football.
SPEAKER_02:Your team reminds me of the Steelers.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think we have we I don't think we ever had an offense looking like this.
SPEAKER_02:But uh the Steelers are the past where your defense was just able to want to choke you out. Yeah. Uh and all Ben Ron Sparker sit back then dude. I wanna throw this bitch up. Heinz Ward's down there. Yeah, you're not wrong. He will catch it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's in it's insane that you have a I have a team like this. I just never I I had the thought that maybe this team can be weren't more talented, but I think even through halfway through the year, like Jeremiah just said it last week. He's like, I think this team's better than last year. And I'm like, he he has a fucking point. I agree, he has a real point. I'm just like, like, what do we like what are you supposed to do? And again, it's almost like you're waiting for this ball the ball to drop. It's like, how how is this gonna get fucked up? But I think Ryan. You're not wrong. But here's the thing as much as that would be a travesty, guess what that doesn't do? It doesn't take Ohio State out of a chance to win the national title still.
SPEAKER_02:No, it'll drop you.
SPEAKER_03:Because of the 12-team playoff.
SPEAKER_02:It'll drop you like three or four.
SPEAKER_03:That's what I'm saying. So I'm sitting here like, even if having one mistake, I hope that mistake is in Michigan, because I we will we need to fix that. Like, that needs to get back on track.
SPEAKER_02:But like now you're at a point where you want both.
SPEAKER_03:They're capable of both.
SPEAKER_02:They've been capable of both for six years.
SPEAKER_03:They have, but I think this defense is on a crate, like, even if the offense decides not to show up, the defense will be like, okay, fine, I guess we'll only Oh, you're gonna make Bryce Honor look like a fucking joke. I guess we'll only have to score seven this week and win the game. Like, that's how good the defense is. The defense goes out and says, hey, how many points are we gonna give up today? Less than ten. Let's just go ahead and go with that, and then everything else will be gravy. And like, it's feasible for them. It's insane to have that type of defense. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_02:It's infuriating to watch a team be this good. Like, I I I've never even seen an NFL team be this good.
SPEAKER_03:But again, NFL is made for parody. It's not possible. It's not possible because of parody.
SPEAKER_02:Literally, this is the second best Ohio State team I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_03:What's the first? You're talking like oh, you're talking 2014. Okay. Yeah, no, I I totally agree. You're talking that it was a defensive monster. It was, but I think this defense can actually be better than that. I the only thing we're really missing based.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's different because I think that team was ran different. I think you take that same defense and move it to the day, six is n there's never a touchdown scored on them.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I think the only difference is that we do not have a Joey Bosa on our def at defensive end. That's like I think that's really the even though our defensive ends are fine, they're great. Caden Curry is awesome, Kenyatta Jackson's awesome, but they're not Joey Bosa. They don't have a fur top five, a five, a top five pick at defensive end. But outside of that, this defense is better. Like Caleb Downs is better than anything that defense had. And think about think about the Arvell Reese and Sonny Styles do it. I can't.
SPEAKER_02:Joey Bosa, the ball was never downfield.
SPEAKER_03:I know, because Joey Bose is on your ass.
SPEAKER_02:I'm in I am in the backfield. Yes. There is no reason why I am watching that man. He'd be triple team some weeks. Yeah. And it wouldn't fucking matter. They'd go for a double team and he'd already passed the left tackle. Yeah. He is or he has already swam past the left tackle. That boy is in the backfield already. Dude, no. It was horrifying.
SPEAKER_03:I I get what you're saying. I really do.
SPEAKER_02:I'm sorry. Because their average yards, I wouldn't doubt if it was less because the ball never got in the air.
SPEAKER_03:No, I get it.
SPEAKER_02:That was big boy Joey Bosa. Joey Bosa was bigger than.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Dude, I.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, he was a monster. He really was.
SPEAKER_02:That's a monster is an understatement. He was the second coming of fucking JJ Watt. I don't care what anybody tells me.
SPEAKER_03:That's how he looked in college. No, for sure. That's how he looked at Ohio State.
SPEAKER_02:That's how he looked for the first year in the NFL. First three years in the NFL.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and then the injury started coming, and it was pretty much downhill from there. He is playing good for the Bills this year, though, so I'll give him that.
SPEAKER_02:But again, he's he's he's he's fine. He's playing fine. Yes. It's not with the Bills. The Bills need more.
SPEAKER_03:Like at Ohio State, he was looking like potentially like best ever type of category, what he was looking at at Ohio State.
SPEAKER_02:He looked like fucking JJ Watt. Yeah. Oh he is he's past them.
SPEAKER_03:Yes. No question.
SPEAKER_02:I couldn't be swaddling running backs before they could even get the ball. Yeah. I think he had one of those plays where he took the quarterback and running back all at the same time.
SPEAKER_03:You know what I will say? The offense this year is for sure better than that 2014 team. Not even not a chance. This offense is so much better. No, you're no you're totally totally, but again, I think by the end of this year, this defense will surpass that defense.
SPEAKER_02:That defense just swallowed the run.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, they did? There was no running against them. There was no running against running against them whatsoever. There really wasn't. You're right. But yeah, no, it's it's it's awesome to be able to have a team like this. It's it's great. Somebody tried to like, I was watching a show and they were like, is it boring to be an Ohio State fan right now? And I'm like, no. I'm coming every week. Watching watching total domination is never boring. It's not gonna happen. I in college football, total domination every week is not boring, especially when watching everybody else get plucked off throughout the country, and I get to watch my team and be like, oh, how much we win and buys? See, there's a 20 or 30.
SPEAKER_02:There's a site that has like the AP poll, and if you press it, you can go through all the weeks. All it has Ohio State starting at two, then Ohio State starting at one, and it goes two weeks streak, three weeks streak, four weeks streak, and I'm like, oh fuck.
SPEAKER_03:Everybody else getting plucked off, dude.
SPEAKER_02:Dude, everybody, you see random teams coming. And I was looking, I was like, is that middle Tennessee at 14?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it's just everybody's getting plucked off, and I'm like, my team isn't. Like, there's a real pride in that right now. It's it's insane. Again, you're the first person to start trying to damper expectation to tell me I'm being a crazy person.
SPEAKER_02:Look, I got nothing for you. I wish I I think the only time I've ever seen a team do this was 2022 with the Bengals. Last eight weeks, where it was just a body after a body after a body. You know what?
SPEAKER_03:LSU, LSU looked like that. LSU 2019? Yeah, but they didn't have the defense of this defense. It was a different way. They were just assassins and they were just outscoring everybody. They don't have the defense that this Ohio State team has. I think maybe the 2021 Georgia, that defense was absolutely insane, and then they had an offense.
SPEAKER_02:That was Jalen Carter.
SPEAKER_03:Jalen Carter, yes. That that was that defense.
SPEAKER_02:That was Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, yes. Where the ball is never getting up in the air, and even if it does, you don't want it to be the one.
SPEAKER_03:But even like even the offense, their offense was very explosive that year. If that offense isn't close to having a Jeremiah on it.
SPEAKER_02:I give anything in the world right now to go back to 2021 just to watch it all again. Keep the fate the same.
SPEAKER_03:You just want the ride? You just want to ride that ride?
SPEAKER_02:Let me ride it of us winning three games in a row, and then we don't lose another game after we get a single game loss after weekend.
SPEAKER_03:Until the Super Bowl.
SPEAKER_02:Until the Super Bowl. We were on a uh what was it? I think we were on like 11, 12 game streak. Yeah. We ain't lost a single game. Yeah, it was 12 games. Yeah. Because we went 10 and 40-6.
SPEAKER_03:Maybe 10 and 6. It was still 16 games at that point. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:12 game streak.
SPEAKER_03:Hey, man. It's win a game.
SPEAKER_02:13 game streak because we had to play three games. Oh, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Suddenly, this motherfucker named Aaron fucking Donald. Yeah. My entire life. Yep. I'd give anything for it right now, bro.
SPEAKER_03:That journey, man. The journey. Sometimes when they say the journey is better than the destination, it's that moment you're talking about right there that does give real credence to that. The journey, even though destination was shit. I know, but again, that was the journey was so awesome.
SPEAKER_02:After I had been a Bengals fan for almost 10 years. Yeah. I was 18. It was 10. It had been 10 years.
SPEAKER_03:And he finally had some payoff.
SPEAKER_02:I have never seen us win more than six, win more, win a playoff game. We were 14 and 2 some years. Yeah. And we won a playoff game. And then I watched Joe Brown get sacked seven fucking times. Stand out there in the fourth quarter, though, three touchdowns. Yep. And then we're going against the big bad Chiefs. Not even fucking close. Yeah. Couldn't even touch us. After I watched that first week and Sam Hubbard fucking blocked the ball down.
SPEAKER_01:Take that ball back for 94 yards.
SPEAKER_02:I'm working on Minards. I did a run to this whole store. You've been on Minards on Moore. Ah! The whole store running. Woo! Screaming my head off. And we beat the Raiders. Big bad cheese. I was like, it's it's destiny. It's us.
SPEAKER_03:It's destiny. It felt like Destiny. Yep.
SPEAKER_00:No, I can't even crash it.
SPEAKER_03:It did. It did, man. It's a big old teabag on the face by the end of it.
SPEAKER_02:My bad, man. I've been thinking about that Super Bowl so much.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I know. It's a big what-if moment in your life.
SPEAKER_02:It's like, hey, I could I could have all the memorabilia right now. I can have all of it.
SPEAKER_03:No, I I totally agree, man. And again, I again I unlocked it for you by talking about the ride I'm on right now, and you're like, I know what that ride feels like. I was there at one point.
SPEAKER_02:I know what you're talking about now. You feel like the team of destiny. Yeah. And the panelists felt like the team of destiny. They had beaten every major AFC team. No one could stand in front of us. We had beat the Ravens twice. We had beaten the Steelers. There was no one in our way.
SPEAKER_03:But the Rams.
SPEAKER_02:We took the Chiefs down, reigning Super Bowl champion. We took him down. And I was like, this is it.
SPEAKER_03:This is it.
SPEAKER_02:OPJ got hurt. Joe Bro.
SPEAKER_03:It felt like it was the mo that was the moment. And Aaron Donald came raining down and it was over. Yeah. We haven't said Aaron Donald's name in a while.
SPEAKER_01:This is when Aaron Donald wakes up.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And it's exactly what he did, man. It's crazy players like that picking their moments, even if they don't do anything else. Yeah, it's a legendary shit.
SPEAKER_02:Hall of Fame, legendary shit. It harms my goddamn dream. That day where I call it. I real quick this super bowl in my head. And that day where I had to talk to five Aaron Donald Reddit to him get in that fucking play, get that goddamn sack and tweet. Dude, that was on my life.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. You have that what if moment, man. Those things are strong. It's a strong moment.
SPEAKER_02:Especially when you're a team that don't got one.
SPEAKER_03:Don't have a sh don't have shit else. No, I totally agree.
SPEAKER_02:I'm a team that don't have a chip. There's not there's no laurels or sit on. I'm a Yankees fan. I'm a Bulls fan. I can sit on a we got championships. Yeah. I'm a Bengals fan. There is nothing like that in my history. Right. I am one of eight teams. And unfortunately, in those eight teams, mine has been the best.
SPEAKER_03:You're in the middle of the desert. No water in sight. You're hallucinating vendor machines right now. You're hallucinating vendor machines. It's only getting worse. Yeah, it's only getting worse. It's only getting worse. And then Joe, you have your moment. You looks like it's the year. Joe Burrow goes down.
SPEAKER_02:And everybody else's ass.
SPEAKER_03:And everybody else's ass. Everybody else's ass.
SPEAKER_01:We would be leading the fucking AFC.
SPEAKER_02:No question. Jamar Chase will fucking Joe Flacco just put up 147 yards. What the fuck?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:I know, buddy. I know. This would be his year. Everybody else is so bad. Joe Burrow, real quick, you see a pictures of him yet? No. They said he looks like uh Annika Skywalker.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah, I did see that. I did have to. Yes. Yes. Do you know what made it worse? Is that when you beat us that Thursday night, y'all wearing the whites that I like? I really love. Really love your cocaine whites. And I couldn't fucking enjoy it because you you were shitting on the Steelers. I could see every shit stained on your guys' jersey because we were shitting down our legs defensively.
SPEAKER_02:I got a Joe Burgess and I can't even wear it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I know. I know, buddy. I know. I want to wear it out, and I'm like, I can't. I know. Because it it's the pain that it brings you knowing that I'm wearing this. It's like, oh.
SPEAKER_02:No, first person says some shit. My air building out.
SPEAKER_03:That too. That too. I'll start with the pain. I'll start with the pain first.
SPEAKER_02:I'll make everybody else do this pain.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, okay. Alright, we need to get to the rest of the NFL. My bad. Thursday night football last night. Minnesota at the Chargers. Chargers won the game 37 to 10. Game wasn't close. Like you, I think you you kind of already mentioned earlier. Carson Wentz was playing like shit last night. I will give him a little bit of credit. He did have a hurt left shoulder, and I felt like everything he did started hurting it. But there was a point where I was starting to laugh at him because he was fucking crying on the sideline. Again, I get it. He's probably going through a lot of pain, a lot of shit going on. I get it. You're a tough guy going out there being a tough dude, and I totally understand. But when you start looking like you're having a hissy fit on the sideline, you're looks like you're crying, it just makes me think a little bit less of you, even though you're he's a much tougher man than me. I much a tougher man than most. But it's just, you know, Carson Wentz just, you know, after looking so good for a little bit, he's kind of showing out like he's not playing well. And now he's giving more credence to you how the JJ McCarthy thing about the ankle injury. Yeah. And how he's been gone for like four, five, six weeks now. And there was a clip last night of Jamar of Justin Jefferson getting up making a play on the sideline and rolling into JJ McCarthy. And JJ McCarthy jumped up just fine and was like dancing while signaling the first down. Everybody's like, well, he looks real healthy right now. It's crazy how he's not he's not looking all that injured. So a lot of people are starting to call the JJ McCarthy injury more like a soft benching because he was playing like shit before the injury actually happened. Yeah. So, and now that you know old boy is starting to play like ass, Carson Wentz. Now everybody's like, well, is are they gonna go back to J.J. McCarthy? And then if he's asked, like, what else do you have? They did use the 10th pick of 10th or 11th, 11th pick on him. 11th overall pick.
SPEAKER_02:No, 10th. 11th was Michael Pennox.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because they traded up to get to get him at 10. So the fact they use such a high draft pick, you're gonna have to go with him at some point.
SPEAKER_02:You know what I said last year? Uh you should have kept Sam Darnold.
SPEAKER_03:They tried to, but he took, he wanted the guaranteed starting job with the Seahawks. And guess what? He's looking awesome over there, throwing to JSN.
SPEAKER_02:You know who's not? Geno Smith.
SPEAKER_03:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:That is Geno Smith made JSN look bad.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, before we before we get to the rest of this game, can you name three takes that you have been terribly wrong on this year? Terribly wrong. I've been terribly wrong on Geno Smith the bad way because he's been awful and I thought he was gonna be good. Daniel Jones, because I called him like the worst quarterback in the NFL, and he's actually superpowering them too.
SPEAKER_02:I've been wrong on that one, yeah. Most people probably were.
SPEAKER_03:Most people probably were, but like there's no way we could have guessed he was gonna look this good this year. This good. Real quick, motherfucker's probably MVP front runner right now. It's probably it's Mahomes. Their offenses woke back up. They look like the Death Star again. I hate to say it, but they do. Honestly, it's probably Dak. Dak as well, but I don't think they're gonna win enough games. Their defense is still ass. They lost to Carolina Panthers a couple weeks ago. Like, how can you win MVP, but lost to the Panthers at one point? Um, and I think the other mistake that I have made throughout this year, let's see. Oh see, he was right about the Steelers, even though I thought it was wrong for four days and I was right again. Um let me think. Maybe the Bills? I was wrong on the Bills because the Bills have looked so iffy, but is again they could turn it around real easily.
SPEAKER_02:Everyone's looked iffy. Every team in the NFL has looked so iffy.
SPEAKER_03:I know something you were wrong about. Jonathan Taylor, he's looking like the best running back in the NFL right now. He can't he hasn't not been stopped this year. He's been the best running back in the NFL. Who have they played? They played the Chargers last week. Um let's see here. What else have they done? Let's go indie. They've played the Dolphins, Broncos, Titans, Rams, Raiders, Cardinals, Chargers.
SPEAKER_02:Who have they lost to on that list?
SPEAKER_03:Rams. And that was a 27-20 game. So you named the only good fucking defense on there. They lost two. But John Taylor's still putting up crazy numbers. You weren't calling. Against two! You were saying he wasn't a top ten back.
SPEAKER_02:Against who? Yeah, but my my nigga. The Dolphins? Broncos.
SPEAKER_03:Broncos.
SPEAKER_02:Their defense is ass.
SPEAKER_03:The Broncos defense is not ass.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Who's their best defensive player?
SPEAKER_03:Corner.
SPEAKER_02:Their secondary is really good. Yeah. Name somebody from their front seven.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, Cooper. Oh, he's he's a buck guy. That's why I remember him.
SPEAKER_02:Oh. What position does he play? D-tackle.
SPEAKER_03:Or I actually I kind of have him playing DN now, actually. Haven't getting an after the passer a lot.
SPEAKER_02:Is he doing that?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. He has a lot of sacks. I think he had a multi-sack game last week.
SPEAKER_02:So their defense is ass. Their secondary is great. Their defense is hot fucking garbage. Uh look.
SPEAKER_03:John Taylor has almost 700 rushing yards to this point this season. And then you add on top of that, he also has like another 200 yards receiving.
SPEAKER_02:They're playing shitty fucking defenses. The best defense they played was the Rams. Guess what they fucking did? Loss. He has 11 touchdowns on the year. Go back to who they've played again, please.
SPEAKER_03:I know, but they haven't. He's been he's he has 11 touchdowns on the year so far.
SPEAKER_02:My nigga, if you could go ahead and let me see those two games right there where they've scored the most points. I bet you it's where most of his touchdowns come from.
SPEAKER_01:The Chargers? No, the fucking Raiders. You dickhead. Sig a three touchdowns against the Raiders! Get the fuck out of here! He had three against the Chargers last week. They're not that good. We can all agree on that now. They're really not that good either.
SPEAKER_03:Probably. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. So he's played some shitty ass teams.
SPEAKER_03:Most of these teams probably aren't making the playoffs. Yeah, but you weren't calling you calling him not a top ten back. Like you he's easily a I'm calling him a top five back, if not number one. You could easily say it's a top, he's probably a top five back.
SPEAKER_02:Give me this. You have a fucking right hand specific mouse, god damn it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, because that's how most mice are made.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I have to pay extra for a fucking not that. Dickhead. I'm left-handed, bro.
SPEAKER_03:Rushing leaders. Jonathan Taylor. Oh, yeah, it's crazy. That number's act some of those guys on the list are kind of wild. Javante Williams being number two. Rico Dowdle being number three.
SPEAKER_02:Javante Williams and Rico Dowdle being number two and three are fucking crazy. Yeah. Um who are these niggas?
SPEAKER_03:Obviously, him for Dallas. Jonathan Williams was really good with the Broncos we got. Rico Dowdle was the backup running back for the Cowboys last year.
SPEAKER_02:I know, I know who they are. It's just like, why are y'all in the top five?
SPEAKER_03:They're going crazy right now. They're going crazy. These two make sense. James Cook and Jameer Gibbs, yes. Jameer Gibbs had an awesome game the other night. Yeah, Jackson's going crazy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so yes, he is.
SPEAKER_03:But it's just a trap. It's always a trap for him. Who are you looking for? Yeah, three six have three hundred and sixteen yards so far. Right, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Sorry. Uh again, Jonathan Taylor plays some shitty ass teams. I know, but you were like he had three to you said, oh he had eleven touchdowns, three numbers on the radio.
SPEAKER_03:And another three role against the Chargers. But yes, that's very true. But he's still eleven through six weeks. Seven weeks. Sorry about that. Through seven weeks. Just saying. Like you were saying he wasn't shit.
SPEAKER_02:He's putting up Miles Garrett numbers. I'm gonna score all my touchdowns against the shittiest teams. Get the fuck out of here. Get the fuck out of here. I'm gonna fucking stat patten. Miles Garrett throws a five sacks against the Bengals and then does jack shit for another three weeks. There's another five sacks against the Bengals. Does Jack shit again for a couple of weeks?
SPEAKER_03:You know the Colts are all the only one lost team in the AFC.
SPEAKER_02:What?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. What the fuck?
SPEAKER_02:But yeah, real quick, he's stat pattern.
SPEAKER_03:Um they're the only actually, they're on they're the only one-lost team in the NFL.
SPEAKER_00:What?
SPEAKER_03:What the fucking Colts are the only one actually technically you could say the Packers are too, but the Packers have a tie.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, no. A tie with who?
SPEAKER_03:The Cowboys. That's a loss. That's a loss. But yeah, the Colts are the only one-loss team in the fucking NFL.
SPEAKER_02:But still, they're stat pattern.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, fine. But he's a top five back. Are you willing to at least admit that he's a top five back right now? You're gonna die on that hill. Okay, fine. The Raiders. Yeah, three times of the Raiders.
SPEAKER_02:Yes! It's like sucking the bangles. It's not an achievement, it's an expectation.
SPEAKER_01:Alright. Real quick, it's the same shit you downed Miles Garrett for. We do it all the time.
SPEAKER_03:But he's done this for years. Miles Garrett's done it for multiple years, dude. Multiple years.
SPEAKER_02:And then, again. He's currently doing it right now. This nigga had three touchdowns against the Targers and against the Raiders. Oh, cool. Okay, that's six. That's fucking half of them. Right, yes. That is more than half. Yes. Okay. Less than half. Again, 11. Miles Garrett is the same as a shit. Oh, sorry. Miles Garrett will have eight sacks. He'll have 19 total sacks. Eight of them bitches will be on the fucking Bengals.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And everybody's like, we're just gonna cut those out. Without the So if you don't play the Bengals every year, you're getting 11? Fine. You take those six the fucking Raiders! Real quick, they've gotten to play the Chargers twice.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't think they played the Chargers twice yet. Wait, the the Colts are in the division with the Chargers, aren't they? No, Colts are in the AFC South. Okay, who's in the division? Jags, Houston, Titans. This nigga gets to play the Titans twice. He hasn't played them yet. Yes, he has. Oh, oh, sorry, he gets to play them again this week, I think.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, real quick, if he put up a lot a whole lot of guards against the Titans, pull that back up for me.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, I got you. And the Jaguars. They have not played the Jags yet. I can tell you that for sure. Um let's go. For the Colts. Yes, I know. Colts. Dolphins, Broncos, Titans.
SPEAKER_02:What are the stats against Titans?
SPEAKER_03:Titans. 102. It's fine. That's a good day. That's a quarter of his yards. And three touchdowns that day, too.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, get the fuck out of my face. Get the fuck out of my face. He has scored nine touchdowns against the shittiest teams.
SPEAKER_01:Get the fuck out of my face. I didn't think it was gonna be like that. Real quick, your your your claim is starting to plummet real fucking fast.
SPEAKER_03:You're using a very good argument against me.
SPEAKER_01:I am because it's effective and fucking true. This motherfucker's stat padding.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Okay. Pull up. They're lost. Pull that one up for me.
SPEAKER_03:76 yards, still a very good day. Where's a touchdown? He doesn't have one. On how many carries? 17. 17. That's not good. That's pretty bad.
SPEAKER_02:I'm aware. Oh! So he plays one really good fucking defense. Just jack shit. Go ahead and pull up a cardinals for me.
SPEAKER_03:Cardinals. 123.
SPEAKER_02:123 yards, touchdown. So he's gotten almost half his yards from two games.
SPEAKER_03:He has 700 yards, dude. That's not damn.
SPEAKER_02:The yards are more impressive than anything. But fuck the touchdowns.
SPEAKER_03:And he has like 200 and receiving.
SPEAKER_02:He's still fucking stat padding. I don't give a fuck.
SPEAKER_03:The touchdowns may be, but the yards he's not. Bullshit. He had the most yards against the Titans, Raiders, and fucking Broncos.
SPEAKER_02:Pull the Dolphins.
SPEAKER_03:But they beat the they beat them 33-8, man. 71 yards. Normal day. All of your heads.
SPEAKER_00:All of your head. You are so lucky. Real quick, if that came up bad, you were fucked.
SPEAKER_02:Real quick. No, I'm not dying on no hill. I'm partially right. This motherfucker stat paddock.
SPEAKER_03:He's still having an awesome year.
SPEAKER_02:He gets to play Titans again this week.
SPEAKER_03:He does get to play Titans.
SPEAKER_02:He puts another three touchdowns against Titans. I'm gonna beat your ass. Because I'm fucking right.
SPEAKER_03:I might put a bet on that just because you're dead.
SPEAKER_01:You did if if history repeats itself, you fucking should.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, that motherfucker's stat padding. That is Miles Garrett stat padding at its finest.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I yes. I'm you're using my argument against me. That's not that's not cool. Ineffective.
SPEAKER_02:It's right. I pulled up the five worst teams, and those are the five teams he did the best against. I didn't even pull up five. We put up three. Yeah. Titans, Raiders, and fucking Cardinals, where he did the best. He scored nine touchdowns against just those three teams.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, I'm aware.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, so it's week seven. So there's several weeks where he's not scoring a touchdown. Yes. He's averaging about 70 yards for those other weeks.
SPEAKER_03:More than that. It's three or seven weeks. He has about seven at seven yards.
SPEAKER_02:You get rid of those three games. That motherfucker's averaging about seventy yards.
SPEAKER_03:Which is still very good for running back nowadays.
SPEAKER_02:It's great. Not on 17 carries.
SPEAKER_03:Sometimes you need to have those.
SPEAKER_02:Which is a lot of what his carries are. He's a bulk carry. You know who also did that? Philip Lindsay.
SPEAKER_03:Not a bulk. He'll have a lot of shorter yard runs, runs, and then run. I said runge. Runs, and then he'll have the huge run.
SPEAKER_02:Who?
SPEAKER_03:Jonathan Taylor.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that's not how that works.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, it is.
SPEAKER_02:You're lucky.
SPEAKER_03:If you have eight times you're running the ball for less than three yards, and then you're gonna have one run where you're running for 40, 50 yards, that did that is how that works. It messes up your average comes down, but it's bolted up by the one big run.
SPEAKER_02:Again, if it okay, there's no way his average is that, because he's he was averaging about 17 to 20 carries a game. In the bad games, he's only averaging 13.
SPEAKER_03:This is the last time I want to go to the back to the John Theta gun. I do want to talk about the Thursday night game, finish that off. Um, but he is averaging stat-wise, let's go to stats here. Yards per carry. Because that's what we're talking about here, right? Yes. His yards per carry is over five. So that's great. He's averaging over five yards a carry.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_03:His long is 68, long is 68 yards. That would have been last week, I think, when he had the huge play against the Chargers. But he's still averaging five over five yards of carry. If it would be one thing if he was only averaging three and he had his like because then you're like, oh, then he's just he's just doing bulk things. But he's averaging over five and he has 700 yards of rushing. He's doing his thing.
SPEAKER_02:And he has almost 400 from those three teams. It's a good argument. Everything you're saying is correct. He is playing good games, but he legit did have 400 yards and nine touchdowns against those three shitty ass teams. Yes. And he's probably gonna add another 150 yards and three more touchdowns against the Titans tomorrow.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Uh, and there's nothing you can say about it. Yeah, because I'm right. Yes, I'm right. Unfortunately, the argument you've made for years, which is a true fucking argument, yes, is also applies to him.
SPEAKER_03:For the season, yes. But it still doesn't take to take away from the fact that he is putting up crazy numbers this year. So is Miles Garrett, man. Fuck it, bitch.
SPEAKER_02:I got your ass. I I got you. Yeah, but you're in a fucking spin cycle right now, and there's nothing.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, but this is the one argument I'll make against Miles Garrett in comparison to Jonathan Taylor. You can't pick your matchup if you're Jonathan Taylor in the same way that you can do that with Miles Garrett.
SPEAKER_02:No, you can just pick the team you want to run a shit ton against.
SPEAKER_03:They're running with him a lot every game. That's the thing. They run the offense through him.
SPEAKER_02:But clearly it's more effective against the the worst team, so they just keep running it.
SPEAKER_03:Like, I feel like this your argument would be even more effective if he was like on the Chiefs right now because they're such a good passing team. But like, nobody expected the the Colts to be good at all, and then he's having his crazy year, and Daniel Jones is actually playing well. So I'm just I'm I again your argument is awesome. Your argument is awesome right now. It's worse because it's my argument.
SPEAKER_02:It's your argument, and it's perfect.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you're not you're not wrong.
SPEAKER_02:Um does not help that his stats do not help you.
SPEAKER_03:The 700 yards is very hard, too. The 700 yards for for through seven games is was wild.
SPEAKER_02:Take out the Titans and Dolphins and Raiders. How many yards does he really have?
SPEAKER_03:He was only getting like over like around 120. It wasn't like he was getting over like 200 yards.
SPEAKER_02:He had 148 on the fucking Raiders. Yes. He had 120.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, 140, 120, and then he had like another 120.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, cool. My nigga, that is four four hundred something fucking yards with nine of those touchdowns. He is doing nil against everybody else.
SPEAKER_03:He did nothing. So still three over 300 yards in the four other games ain't that bad either. W with two touchdowns.
SPEAKER_00:I got you! I got your ass.
SPEAKER_03:No, sorry. You'd make that three because you three because he does have a receiving touchdown.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, cool.
SPEAKER_03:Still, I got your ass.
SPEAKER_00:I got you. You got caught fucking lacking. I got your ass. I got your ass.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just saying, I just mentioned that because we were talking about, uh oh. I was like, Jonathan, you were you were pissing on the middle of me. Jonathan Taylor is on the top five back. He's not even top ten back.
SPEAKER_01:He's a step patter. Step patterns.
SPEAKER_03:You could say he's a top ten back. Come on.
SPEAKER_00:The Raiders tight.
SPEAKER_03:The argument that you're making, the argument that you're making is fine. That's not charged. You want to use my charge over here? You can't. Nah, fuck it. If you want to say that he's like not a top five back, that's an argument we can have, but he's definitely a top ten back.
SPEAKER_00:Dude, I caught you. You were lacking.
SPEAKER_02:I c I have caught you lacking so fucking hard. There's nothing you can do against it now. You were lacking. Dude, yeah, 300 something. He's that's still 300 yards. It's pretty good. I'm like, yeah. With no fucking touchdowns, none.
SPEAKER_01:Zero. Zilch. Nada. Nine! You take out nine in just those three games.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, fine.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just trying to get you to say he's not. But that happens to running backs all the time.
SPEAKER_02:Not top five running backs. Jameer Gibbs is a touchdown in all of his games.
SPEAKER_03:NFL. I just want to make sure we're gonna.
SPEAKER_02:Now we're circling back.
SPEAKER_03:I'm trying to, I'm trying to go on to the next thing, but you won't let me.
SPEAKER_02:You're the one circling back to go find Jameer Gibbs.
SPEAKER_03:Touchdowns. Jameer Gibbs does not have a touchdown in every single game. How many touchdowns do you have? Six.
unknown:Fuck. One off.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, take your little victory, fuck nigga. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like you accomplished some shit. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:You fucker.
SPEAKER_03:I gotta take it when I can get it, bro. I gotta take it when I can get it.
SPEAKER_02:Because you've lost that argument. All right, back to. I was wrong about Bo Knicks.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, you were fucking wrong.
SPEAKER_02:I'll take that. I was wrong about Bo Nicks.
SPEAKER_03:Fucking wrong about Bo Nicks.
SPEAKER_02:That one genuinely unless he's in the fourth quarter.
SPEAKER_03:Then he turns into touch tur turns into Jesus.
SPEAKER_02:Apparent prime fucking Tom Brady when he turns into the fourth quarter. Um I was wrong about that. I will take that one.
SPEAKER_03:And the whole San Fran situation.
SPEAKER_02:Uh I didn't believe anybody could work in the system. You was right. You was right.
SPEAKER_03:Make Mac Jones work. There's something going on. There's some real voodoo going on.
SPEAKER_02:But I'm not taking the Jonathan Taylor one.
SPEAKER_03:Fine, cool, fine.
SPEAKER_02:But this I think I've made more than a good enough case to not have to take that.
SPEAKER_03:You don't have to take it, but I still contend that I still am right, but you don't have to take an L on that.
SPEAKER_02:But I can also contend you're fucking losing.
SPEAKER_03:But if this dude runs for like 1,500 yards, we will have to have a real conversation.
SPEAKER_02:Pull up those fucking games again, motherfucker. We will. That we will if this nigga goes for 100 and something and another touchdown against the Titans, don't say shit to me the rest of the fucking year. Rest of the year. The rest of the fucking year. There's been a good thing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, but on that pace, he's gonna get like 20-something touchdowns in a season. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, as long as you can play fucking the Chargers, the Raiders, and uh Titans every week. Yes. Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Back to the Vikings and Chargers. Carson once played terribly. They didn't run the football that well. He was hurt. Justin Jefferson did his thing. Seven receptions, 74 yards. It's just they could not get into the end zone. It was terrible. They were bad.
SPEAKER_02:He is, but he's times I feel bad, and I'm like, please retire.
SPEAKER_03:Do you know he's the first player in his NFL career to have a six-year run where he's playing for six separate teams?
SPEAKER_01:That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03:Which means he's like, as much as he's playing, and he has moments where he's playing good, overstays is welcome. Nobody wants to fucking keep him.
SPEAKER_02:Well, he's not going to teams that their starters keep getting injured and you have to play.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, uh that, but also he was at a point where he was looked at as a starter and they were like the Colts tried, Washington tried, and they're like, not only was he ass, he was unlikable at the same time. You can't be ass and unlikable. You gotta pick one.
SPEAKER_02:I've heard that a lot that he's he was bad and uncoachable. Right. Because he was rude, because he thought he was that good.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Can't be both. If you're good, you can be as much of an asshole as you want. But if you're bad. Exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Great team guy, and he's not that bad.
SPEAKER_03:Again, yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly.
SPEAKER_03:Um, Charger side.
SPEAKER_02:Or Jameis.
SPEAKER_03:Or Jameis just be an absolute clown. But again, a nice clown.
unknown:And likeable.
SPEAKER_03:And likable, but a clown to a certain extent. Um, Herbert, awesome. Three touchdowns, one pick. They ran the football very well. This dude Vidal is like they're they just picked him up off the street somewhere, and he's running the football very well. Marian Hampton, who? They're still running the football for over 100 yards a game. Um, Labakonki had a great game. This their tight end they found, Gadskin, I believe. Hold on, let me make sure I have his name right. Gadson has popped up out of nowhere, and he's has I think he's had like a couple hundred yards over the last two weeks. Touchdowns, like he's doing everything for them, and it's like insane that they just found this dude out of nowhere. Like he wasn't even like a second or third string tight end, like in he's just coming out and playing this great. Very good for them. Their defense, you know, I I don't I don't want to necessarily give the Chargers defense a bunch of credit because that's how bad Minnesota was, but they did sack him a bunch of times last night. So that they did earn.
SPEAKER_02:They did earn a lot of those sacks, but Wentz did run into like three of them.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, and he's hurt, he's injured, he's not as as athletic as he usually would be, because usually he's pretty athletic for the most part, and because that shoulder injury, he couldn't get away from nobody. But still, you got the sacks you got, you kept putting pressure on that injury, made him look like a bitch on the sideline, and that's you win the game running away. And you have to give him some credit for that, and it's great. Everybody's talking about how Justin Herbert starts going out with a very hot-looking chick, and then next thing you know, his career explodes. He's playing very good football right now. Even though he did have a couple weeks, a couple weeks there where he was throwing a bunch of picks. He has that ring because he got hurt at the perfect time. Do I actually think they still win that ring if he was still the quarterback during that Super Bowl run?
SPEAKER_02:He was very good that year.
SPEAKER_03:He he would have won an MVP if he stayed healthy throughout that whole season. He would have won an MVP. But I think Nick Foles, I think that was a little magical mixture.
SPEAKER_02:How do you think his career would have changed if he did stay healthy?
SPEAKER_03:Here's my thing, he still would have been unlikable. He would be even more unlikable than he is now, even with all of the non-success he's had. Right. So he'll be just as unlikable, and the Eagles will be looking for the next chance to get rid of him.
SPEAKER_02:But would you think he would still been as good as he was? Because I think a big attempt made him bad is all the pressure.
SPEAKER_03:The issues that he has had have those have always been his issues. So I don't think those would have changed by him having that great year. But it would be kind of like the in a different way, but like the Jalen Hurts conversation. Like, oh, he's good enough at his best to get you where you want to go, but at other times he looks like straight up ass. And I'm not saying Jalen Hurts looks like ass, but he's just not playing up to the certain standard you think he's a suit like a top five guy, as some people like to put him. Carson Wentz at some points looks like a top five guy, but other times looks like total dog ass. That's a weird way to say that, but you know, it was but it that's what he that's what he is, yeah. Which is what he'd been this year with Vikings. At one point he was looking very good, and then over the last couple weeks he's looked like straight ass. And it's so again, injury also included, but it's to his non-throwing shoulder. So I'm just sitting there like if you're playing, then you have to expect a certain amount of like good play, but it just hasn't happened. But yeah, that's it on that. Like, again, will they bring in JJ McCarthy back? Is I would love for them to bring back JJ McCarthy for him to look at look like ass too, and for me to be able to laugh on that grave, because you know, him being a Michigan guy, I would love to watch all of them fail in the NFL, because why not? Because you know, my hatred for them is eternal. And that's about it on that game. So let's go ahead and go on to the rest of the NFL slate. Um, our overall records I have at the top of the top of the uh paper there. Can you read them out for us, please?
unknown:Damn.
SPEAKER_02:We are 50 Joe Joe is 59, 34, and 1. I am 60, 33, and 1.
SPEAKER_03:You're ahead by a game. Uh, I think last week. Um, I think we both have very good records last week. I think we came out even because we went even on all the uh splits that we had.
SPEAKER_02:Uh 8 and 7.
SPEAKER_03:8 and 7 for both of us. Not too bad.
SPEAKER_02:We're just we split Cincinnati Pittsburgh.
SPEAKER_03:You got that one. We split on Seattle. Houston Seattle. Yeah. And you won that one, and then I won the other two. I picked Denver while you picked the Giants, and then I picked um it was one of the last games Detroit, Tampa Bay. Yep. Exact mundo. Alright, so let's go ahead and pick up the rest of the games. First off, Miami, Atlanta, at Atlanta. I'm gonna go ahead and pick my uh not Miami, Atlanta. I'm guessing you picked them as well. Fuck yeah. Miami's ass, Tua. How has the the downfall for Tua been for you? Because we haven't really talked about that all that much, but like it not only is Tua playing like ass every week, last week he threw like three picks and only threw for like 100 yards in that game. And then he comes out when he has press availability and says some shit, and I'm like, do you not know how to put your own, like, how to not put your own foot in your mouth? Because it seems like every week he just makes it worse. He keeps digging the hole deeper. I just don't he just can't stop himself. I'm like, I I just don't know if he understands that he may not ever be a starter in the NFL ever again.
SPEAKER_02:He doesn't have the ability to understand anymore.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, yeah, because the injuries catching him. I kind of walked right into that one. I would like to not see me smile? Yeah, I saw the smile. I would like to believe that that's not the case and that he's just being an idiot right now, but the injuries may be part of that too. Yeah, it's not good. The fact they haven't fired uh McDaniel's that is insane. I was like on the last pot I was talking about, like if he will never be able to get a locker room to respect him, he will be a very good offensive coordinator whenever he gets a new a new offensive coordinator job, but some dudes are just not meant to be head coaches. And he's one of them. And he's cool as a best friend slash offensive coordinator, but I just don't think he's good to be in a real leadership position for in front of a whole team. Like nobody fucking respects him. So I'm just sitting here like, if he like, I don't know how he hasn't been fired. It's insane. But no, Miami's bad. Atlanta, much better team. Can Miami do anything to stop B. John Robinson? Like, I don't think it's fucking top. Like it's for me, it's Bijan and couldn't stop Ronda Daddle.
SPEAKER_02:Uh Rico Dowdle?
SPEAKER_03:He said Rondo Dowdle.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know who he is. That's the thing. They couldn't stop him. You think you stopped Bijan?
SPEAKER_03:No. Bijan, Bijan is on an insane level right now. Dog. They're using him and everything, catching the football, running it. He he cannot be stopped. He's it's it's insane how good he's looking right now.
SPEAKER_02:Next time you have the New York Jets at the Bang Bull.
SPEAKER_03:Did you hear the owner trash Justin Fields?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:First off, not professional at all. Second off, you signed the dude, so you can't act all surprised. Third off, your offensive line is absolute dog shit. Again, I'm not saying it's not Justin Fields' fault. He has his own fault in this situation, but he should not have to deal with the owner coming out and trashing him and pretty much saying he can't play. Like that is a real issue. And then the coach comes out this week and says, Oh, for competitive advantage, I'm not gonna come out here and say who's gonna be the starting quarterback this week. And I'm like, well, your choices are the quarterback that the owner already trashed this past week or Tyrod Taylor, who does not look much better. Like, it's not it's not gonna fucking change anything. So again, I'm again, I'm always the first one to jump on Justin Fields aside. He's had his issues, the issues that he's had his whole career have been there. But I have seen that dude with a good organization that knows how to cultivate some things, he was four and two with the Steelers last year. So nobody can tell me if things don't, if things aren't put around him well, he cannot be a good starting quarterback. But I can't change the fact that he took the money to go play with the Jets, and now he's paying the price for it because they have no offensive line. Garrett Wilson's the only good weapon around him, and the defense is playing like absolute dog shit. So I'm like, it's just it gives me that like what could have been moment, like, oh, we could have not had a 42 Aaron Rodgers, and we could have multiple years of a young quarterback that was on the rise when he was in a Pittsburgh Steel uniform.
SPEAKER_02:It probably would have benefited you guys to play him last year.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just saying, like, again, we weren't gonna win a Super Bowl with him or with with, but it's I think it's just as much your guys' fault. Oh no, it is. We didn't we we made him not trust us because we took him out of the took him out of the spot when we were four and two for Russell Wilson, who was not any better.
unknown:He was way worse.
SPEAKER_03:He was way worse. Again, he was better in the short term with the passing, but long term with the offensive line not playing well and all that, he was it was bad, it was worse. But imagine what Justin Fields could have been with this offensive line we have this year that's playing a lot better.
SPEAKER_02:Your team's offense is a whole lot better.
SPEAKER_03:And we have a functioning organization that knows how to like just play football. Heck, even as bad as Aaron Rodgers has been over the last few years, talking shit and all that, he's been a model citizen because guess what? He doesn't have to be a leader because he's with an organization that has a real structure to it. So it's a what if I'm I feel bad for Justin Fields because I think this is his last opportunity to really be a starter, and he got benched last week. It looks like he may not even play this week, and even if he does play, it's gonna be bad because the offensive line is absolute dog shit. So I don't know. I feel bad. You're not wrong, no Hendrickson. I don't I think he's gonna take a sweet old time to get healthy, or he's like, hey, trade me. One of the two.
SPEAKER_02:I think it's gonna be a Logan Wilson now once traded, so if we go fucking let it be a tandem trade trade uh trade request.
SPEAKER_03:Right now go into the office together. Yeah, that's it. Like literally have nobody else.
SPEAKER_02:He's been really good.
SPEAKER_03:And then you said they already they sat Cam Taylor Britt.
SPEAKER_02:He got benched.
SPEAKER_03:Brandon Knights played well this year. I'll give you that. Yeah, but at running but at linebacker, that's more effective. Just stopping the run at linebacker is a very is a good. Tool. But as a defensive end, where you're also your job is to also get after the quarterback. Cooking.
SPEAKER_02:Cooking.
SPEAKER_03:Cooking.
SPEAKER_02:No fucking why.
SPEAKER_03:Because the linebackers couldn't cover.
SPEAKER_02:Because rookie linebackers can't cover. Yeah, you're not wrong. And you took the only linebacker that can cover and sat him. So I had to watch Donald Washington get a fucking touchdown.
SPEAKER_03:That fire move touchdown. I think that moment right there, that touchdown that Rogers threw uh falling to his left. I'm like, I haven't seen a throw like that since Ben. I'm like, that's what we've been missing in this offense. But it doesn't change the fact that our defense was deep dog water. So, you know, it is what it is.
SPEAKER_02:We got cooked by tight ends all game.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. DK didn't even do shit. Insane.
SPEAKER_02:You know, maybe he told the DJ covered tight ends back out there. Yeah, maybe or one D D um Michigan. DJ Turner. Turner, yes. Oh no, D.
SPEAKER_03:But he's small. He's not covering no tight ends.
SPEAKER_02:And the biggest problem is he's small. He's a small dude. He was set up against when we played the Broncos against Cortland Sutton. Courtland Sutton is six foot four.
SPEAKER_03:Yep. Not gonna go well.
SPEAKER_02:I watched him try to press him up a line and I watched Skype.
SPEAKER_03:Your best bigger cornerback is Cam Taylor Bitt, who's not playing well. So that's kind of crazy how it works. But I've been looking at draft boards. There's there's line linemen, good tackles that might that'll be available, and there's great defensive players too. So you'll have your pick. Unless Joe Flacker really does like turn it on, and then you guys have a outside of a top ten pick, dude. That'll be funny as shit.
SPEAKER_02:There is a world where we go out there and torch the Jets, and I don't want to live in that world right now. I want to lose. I want to lose.
SPEAKER_03:Me and you are in the same scenario. I we both want to lose, but we're both in very different positions.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I see Tyra I see Justin Fields, not Tyrod Hiller. I'm just uh gross.
SPEAKER_03:But no, Cincinnati's gonna win that game. They're just playing a lot better ball.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Cleveland and New England. Real quick. Uh there is a photo of Dylan Gabriel walking the sideline, and Kevin Sabansky is fucking cheating. And the caption was uh Sean Sandles has never seen the field.
SPEAKER_03:No, I I think I think he his taking Gabriel. As long as Clinton Junckens is there, he don't have to no fucking work. Just run the football.
SPEAKER_01:Real quick.
SPEAKER_00:There was a dude going over the game. He was like, he is refusing to throw the ball downfield. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:He is refusing. Check down. Check down. Check down. Quinchon Junckins. Yeah. That's all he has to do. Yeah. He will keep a job as long as Clinchon Junckins is there to bail him out.
SPEAKER_03:No question.
SPEAKER_02:When he goes 0-3 and Quinchon Junckins gets a fucking run.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Straight down the gut.
SPEAKER_03:He's literally the best offensive player by a mile.
SPEAKER_02:He's a dog. No question. But yeah, no, Green Bay loses tomorrow.
SPEAKER_03:Huh?
SPEAKER_02:Green bay.
SPEAKER_03:Cleveland loses tomorrow. Not tomorrow, Sunday. But you know. New England. Um, New England's gonna win that game. Drake May, quietly, one of the top like four or five playing quarterbacks in the NFL right now. He's really finding his. That team is very much built like the Jets. I mean, like the Bills in a certain way, where if like if Drake May is not playing out of his mind, that team is not really doing a lot.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, it's really infuriating that they only had to be bad for like six years, and then you found your fucking franchise quarterback. It's quite infuriating.
SPEAKER_03:They still have to go and build everything else because of how bad that team is around him.
SPEAKER_02:Y'all motherfuckers were bad for six fucking years and then find your franchise quarterback. I am heated. I had to watch the Bengals be bad for like 15.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Are you dead ass? And then you guys are likable. Why why why are the Patriots likable now?
SPEAKER_03:And they went and got a coach that I actually like.
SPEAKER_02:I I love I love Mike Rayball. I think he's a great personnel guy. And he's a buckeye. It's like, oh, I hate that. I'm like, all right, you guys found your franchise quarterback, and now the New England Patriots are likable. I'm in fucking hell.
SPEAKER_03:And you know, and then the and the fans start complaining, like, oh, we're gonna lose again. And I'm like, you don't fucking know losing. You had 20 years worth of winning. Losing is like how it is for the rest of us.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know pain. It's like that. None of your teams are bad. Why why are none of your teams bad? None of your sports teams in your goddamn city are bad. All of them were are were are in the playoffs. Two of the two of them have been champions in the last 10 years. You have several championships for every one of your sports teams. Yeah. Whether it's fucking hockey, goddamn baseball, basketball, football.
SPEAKER_03:They don't deserve happiness. They don't know struggle. They don't know they don't know struggle. But they're s but they complain like they've been struggling for 10 years. And I'm like, no, it's been six years. And you had a 20-year run of not barely ever losing at all. Come be come learn what it's like to be the rest of us, please.
SPEAKER_02:Go be a go be a Browns fan for a game. Right. And understand what they're going through.
SPEAKER_03:But they act like they're Browns fans. They like that that's what makes me mad. Like they don't deserve prosperity, but they're getting it anyway, and it make it pisses me the fuck off. He didn't do it. Pisses me off. Don't deserve it. But Drake May, awesome. Really good. Um, they don't give Trevion the ball at all. And I'm like, what did Trevion do to Mike Rabel? That is one thing I'll say, because like easily if they just give him the ball and let him figure it out, he will be the best back. He'll be the most explosive back for them. But they never give him I'm not because obviously coming in, it's like, oh, keep him healthy, he'll be fine, but they don't even give him they don't give him the ball consistently whatsoever. It's like a few, five, six times a game, maybe. But it's just like it's weird that they're so far down the depth chart with how explosive he is. It feels like you would need that on your team. But yeah, um, next game. Um, New York Giants going to play Philly. You think Giants are gonna beat them again in like the three weeks? I think they played him like two weeks ago. And they dismantled them, they did, but Philly had the big game last we know it's crazy, they had the big game. Um, AJ Brown gets his touchdowns, and I think he made a post today that says they're using me, but they're not using me. And I'm like, I was just like, come on, dude. You should just be happy. Just again, I would we me and you were defenders of him for so long. They're gaslighting him. He was right.
SPEAKER_02:But like the last three weeks, I'm like, broke him off.
SPEAKER_03:I'm like, just be an adult for just a little bit. Like, you have to understand that you're you're digging the hole deeper for everybody. I'm like, at some point you have to want to help, and it just feels feels like at every point where he has a chance to help or hurt, he's picking hurt.
SPEAKER_02:It's frustrating.
SPEAKER_03:I'm gonna take Philadelphia though. I just think that Philadelphia can do a couple things to kind of like just have it go more their way a little bit. And I just think they'll be able to make some plays um to win. And as I'm looking at it, it also says that AJ Brown is not gonna be playing this week with a hamstring injury. So I think that makes me even more emboldened by the fact that I think it may be streamlined a little bit is Devontae, yeah, Devontae Smith, and then whoever else they have in their roster, and trying their running game is not good. Uh it's Saquon has just been I'm not saying he's washed, but he's just after he had so many carries last year, he had over 2,000 yards. Probably a lot. There's a reason why it's rare that a player goes 2,000, like has a 2,000 yard season and then has a great season after that.
SPEAKER_02:Uh CJ2K.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he had a 2,000 yards and then it was bad for one season and he was back to having like 1,500 consistently.
SPEAKER_03:It's almost like you just need a year to like reset after having such a heavy workload of a season. It's not just him, the offensive line, too. I feel like it's just as much on the offensive line to run the football that much that it is on the running back. So, okay. But yeah, I think the the Philly will figure it out and win this game. Next one we got is Buffalo going to Carolina. I'm taking Buffalo.
SPEAKER_02:Why would you go take Carolina?
SPEAKER_03:Carolina has looked decent. Not because of Bryce Young. Rico Dowdle has been awesome. Ted McMillan has been very good. The output hasn't been always great because, you know, it's just not consistent with Bryce Young. But I think he can be better. He's very good. And so, but yes, Buffalo coming back from their bye week, I think that I don't think they played last week. I think they'll be they'll be ready to go, have a little better plan together defensively. Again, they're playing against a better terrible offense anyway. Buffalo win that game.
SPEAKER_02:Next game, you got Chicago at Baltimore.
SPEAKER_03:I'm going to take, you know, it's crazy. If Baltimore loses this game, their season is essentially over. They do have Lamar Jackson. Lamar back. Chicago, even though they've won the last four games in a row, it's not because of Caleb Williams. Especially not last game. They ran the football effectively. That was what they did very well last game. But if they go into that, even though the Ravens' defense is not all that good, but if you just try to run the football on the Ravens defense, it will not go that well. So you're gonna need Caleb to do something, but can I trust that?
unknown:No.
SPEAKER_03:I don't think I can. I'm gonna take the Ravens.
unknown:Okay, good.
SPEAKER_03:Well, you took the Ravens as well?
SPEAKER_02:I took Chicago at first.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, did you? And then you talked yourself out of it?
SPEAKER_02:I took Chicago and I was like, Lamar's back. Lamar is back. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And I don't. And again, I think we've I'm not gonna lie to you.
SPEAKER_02:I was if you were to pick Chicago, I was probably gonna swap.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I get I get what you're saying that. Because and here's my thing.
SPEAKER_02:Because I don't want to split this game.
SPEAKER_03:I know. It's it's gross if to try to split it.
SPEAKER_02:I can't. I feel like Chicago can win this game, but I feel like they're gonna put the ball in the air and it's gonna make a lot of mistakes.
SPEAKER_03:And it's just I think if people that really wanted Lamar to win the MVP last year, this year should be the reason why. Because without Lamar, this team is absolutely ass. Like no questions asked. But with him, their offense actually looks decent, and the defense somehow looks better off of that. Somehow, but the defense has always been kind of bad. Somehow, I don't understand that. And but Lamar just makes his team so much better. So I just don't think I can believe in Chicago in Caleb Williams enough to win this football game, especially being in Baltimore. I feel like it's just the perfect. Not to mention, when's the last time we had a season where Baltimore has been out of it by the middle of this season? It's never happened.
SPEAKER_02:So I'm gonna be the first. If they lose this game, they're cooked.
SPEAKER_03:If they lose this game, they're done. Like there is no again, as much as I want to bel want the Steelers to lose, they can't at that point. They have such a lead that you have to go for it now, like with that being the case. They have to try because you're never gonna have this big of a runway if the if the Ravens lose again.
SPEAKER_02:Ravens are bad, you have no one to stop you.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly. As all you have to do is not piss down your leg every game like you did last game. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I'll take Baltimore.
SPEAKER_02:Next game you have San Fran at Houston. San Francisco, because that defense is so fucking good. Woe Anderson Jr. is phenomenal.
SPEAKER_03:I've been on the narcotic for Houston for so long. You know how much I love CJ. CJ's in my heart forever. But I got I came to the conclusion last week that Houston had a chance in the draft last year to make the grown-up decision. Because just like just like the Bengals did when they took Jamar Chase instead of taking Pinnae Soul, right? And as much as you love Jamar Chase, he's your messiah other than Joe Burrow. But you're like, we would have a lot better Joe Burrow. We'd have him a lot more.
SPEAKER_02:We'd be a better team because of it.
SPEAKER_03:If we had the all-pro right tackle ready ready to go every week. Like that, he's an all-pro ever since he got drafted. Pinnay Soul has been. So he was his first year. All pro. So I'm just sitting, you're like, Houston had a real decision to make. They could have made a grown-up decision and got offensive linemen, but what they did was they traded out of the first round and then took two wide receivers with their second and third round picks. They went for ice cream. They needed to go get some vegetables and some hearty foods in offensive linemen, but they wanted ice cream, so now they have too much ice cream and they don't have the true ingredients they need to really build the team out. And now it's making CJ look like ass because he can't trust it's literally every play who's gonna be in my fucking lap on this play because he can't trust anything. And now he can't even get the ball out like consistently like he needs to, even to all those wide receivers he has because the offensive line's not doing shit. They can't run the football, they can't pass protect, nothing's going well. And because of that, they're gonna make CJ look, they're gonna make everybody's gonna talk shit about CJ. And they're gonna luck their way into getting offensive linemen and it'll start to look better next year. And they're like, oh, what happened to CJ the last two years? He's looking great now. And it's a fucking very obvious solution. They didn't get him offensive linemen like they needed to. They went and got a grab bag worth of dudes and just said, oh, we'll make this work. Their defense is absolutely not just wasting CJ, they're wasting that defense. That defense is all worth. I think that's the best defense in the NFL. Like by a landslide. Like it's so good. They can get after you, their secondary is absolutely elite. Like their linebackers are they're they're go over the line a lot. Aziz Al-Shair is an insane person who you were saying this last year, maybe shouldn't be in the NFL with some of the thing plays he makes. But their defense is nasty, and they're wasting both of that by their offensive line being total dog shit. So I'm taking San Fran. And as much as I've talked shit about Kyle Shanahan, I've talked so much shit about Kyle Shanahan with that team with as how little talent that they have and they're winning these football games. It works. He's doing his probably his best coaching job this season.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And like I said, he's making Mac Jones look viable in the NFL. And that's a fucking miracle.
SPEAKER_02:He's not making Mac Jones look viable, he's making Mac Jones look good.
SPEAKER_03:Right. And I'm just like, hey, just throw it to Christian McCaffrey, and now they have George Kittle back. They didn't even use George Kittle last week. They just said, hey, we're just gonna run the football with Christian McCaffrey, and Christian McCaffrey's gonna go off for over 150 scrimmage yards and a couple touchdowns. And they win football games every week. So again, I would love for Houston to win. I really would. But I'm just not gonna be on.
SPEAKER_02:All CG needs to do is make a couple plays. They have no one on defense to stop him.
SPEAKER_03:If I'm wrong, I am happy to I would be my happiest to be wrong of all time. But I'm gonna take San Fran.
SPEAKER_02:I'll take that split. Alright, you got Tampa Bay at New Orleans.
SPEAKER_03:Tampa.
SPEAKER_02:I don't even that team is awful.
SPEAKER_03:Mike Evans getting hurt was a big gut gut punch.
SPEAKER_02:It is. But I think San Fran is the I think New Orleans is the worst team in the NFL.
SPEAKER_03:There's only one. No, it's the it's the Jets. The Jets are the only one that's team in the NFL. I think New Orleans has two wins.
SPEAKER_02:I'm the worst team in the NFL of my quarterback. Sorry, they have one win. Sorry, my bad. Rattler, I'm the worst team in the NFL.
SPEAKER_03:I think Spencer Rattler has not been bad. I don't think he's been the problem. I think actually he's played some very decent ball.
SPEAKER_02:I think we might really disagree on this. I don't think he's a job after next year.
SPEAKER_03:But I don't think it's I don't think he'll be a starter, but I think he'll be a very good backup for the rest of his career. I think he'll be he will make a ton of money being a very good backup because I think I don't think he's played terribly. I really don't. I think he's played some decent ball. But Tampa Bay, I think they're a little too much. Even with all the injuries, as long as Met can come back reasonably healthy. He did play all of last game. He just looked like he was a little bit off, like that that hamstring was still bothering him. But I just don't think New Orleans has the pass rush that can make Baker look as shaken up as he did last game against the Lions. Baker looked the most shaken up I've ever seen him.
SPEAKER_02:Like he I think that pass, I would I wouldn't have been prepared for that. Not from the Lions. Their pass rush has not been like that.
SPEAKER_03:They couldn't stop Aiden Hutchinson at all.
SPEAKER_02:No, he was through. He was good.
SPEAKER_03:He was every play. It was like they even gave him a tight end to chip off him, and he still ran through the chip. I'm sitting there, he's running through two dudes, and like he can't they can't be stopped. And the one throw that he that he had to mech in the end zone totally underthrew it. And there was another play where he overthrew the guy, and I'm like, I've you're not used to seeing Baker that shaken by the pass rush, and it did happen, but I just don't think New Orleans is going to be able to repeat that.
SPEAKER_02:I think 800 is probably defensive play of the year.
SPEAKER_03:If he keeps going at this rate, yeah, yeah, no question.
SPEAKER_02:Next game you have Dallas at Denver. Um I took Denver.
SPEAKER_03:Can Denver do what they did last week against the Giants again against Dallas?
SPEAKER_02:Defense stop anybody?
SPEAKER_03:No, but it doesn't matter. Defense's offense plays like shit for three quarters against the Giants and then wakes up and scores 33 in the fourth quarter. Can you do that same formula against Dallas? Because Dallas will keep scoring. Because you just think, but Dallas will score though. They have C D Lamb and they have CD Lamb back. I'm saying you're like, if Dallas can do nothing else, they can score, but I guess I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I think that Dallas defense is so bad. I think Denver will have a resurgence in this game. But I I understand you taking Dallas.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not gonna take Dallas. I again I would I would love No, I the Denver's at home. It makes me feel a tad bit more. But again, they were getting beat out by Nigga pick. I'm pay I'm taking Dallas. Fuck it. I'm gonna go for it.
SPEAKER_02:God damn.
SPEAKER_01:See, this is what you can do to me when I Bro, you're gonna go on a five minute of talking to yourself and I'm gonna be like, or you're doing all this just for you to pick Dallas anyway.
SPEAKER_03:I just don't think Denver can keep this thing up of playing like shit for three quarters and just coming back and winning. I think Dallas can score.
SPEAKER_02:Do you want to talk about Tennessee Indiana game? You're just gonna keep going. Do you really want to talk about it?
SPEAKER_03:Is India the Indianapolis the only team that can beat Kansas City now?
SPEAKER_02:That's my question. Oh god, I hope not. I hope that's not our savior. I hope I'm not relying on Danny Dimes and the boys. I really fucking hope not.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, obviously I'm picking Indianapolis, they're a fucking wagon. I really fucking hope not. Like I said, I really hope not.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not sitting here in the goddamn NFC Championship hoping to God I see Daniel Jones in the Super Bowl. I really fucking hope not. I I pray for days where I don't have to do that. You have given me a consequence of I may just have to root for the for the Chiefs because I do not want to root for Daniel Jones. But I do not. If the Chiefs are I refuse to see Daniel Jones go to a fucking Super Bowl, I refuse to see him beat the Chiefs in the playoffs. If this motherfucker beats the Chiefs in the playoffs and makes the AFC Championship, I'm going to blow my fucking brains out. Because God damn our.
SPEAKER_00:If it should be your year, it should be us. It should be us. If fucking Daniel Jones and the boys can do it, goddamn the Bengals could have. Dude, dude, no.
SPEAKER_03:That's my pro my only problem is Colts are the only one-lost team in the fucking NFL right now.
SPEAKER_00:They shouldn't be.
SPEAKER_02:They should be the fucking.
SPEAKER_03:And if the Chiefs are the Chiefs are back to being Death Star again, their offense looking amazing, right? What if Daniel Jones is our only Jedi left?
SPEAKER_02:That is not my message. What if he is our only Jedi? He's not the one to save the Force.
SPEAKER_03:He's our Luke Skywalker.
SPEAKER_02:No.
SPEAKER_03:Bro, I will have to root for him against the Chiefs. I know, but that's that's next year. What are we gonna do this year? I don't want to see the Chiefs in the Super Bowl again.
SPEAKER_02:You have to let them rebuild the Death Star so Joe Burrow can tear it back down.
SPEAKER_03:I don't want to see it get built. But they're starting to build it again. It's getting scary.
SPEAKER_02:Real quick, they'll only finish, they only finish the building at the end of the season and Joe Burrow will tear it all back down next year.
SPEAKER_03:No, I can't.
SPEAKER_02:They'll be back.
SPEAKER_03:But what if they win another Super Bowl again, man? What are we supposed to do? They win another one. I just don't want to see him win. I just don't want to see him get to another Super Bowl and potentially win it. I just don't want to see it. That is what it is. I'm done. And if that's the case, I will root for Daniel Jones like my heart depends on it, bro. I can't. I can't. I know, but he's been so good. Like he started. I refuse. I know. I understand. I understand. I refuse. I understand. Next game.
SPEAKER_02:Green Bay at Pittsburgh.
SPEAKER_03:I'm taking Green Bay. They're gonna dick us down.
SPEAKER_02:Or they won't either dog. Walk the fuck out of him. Because Jordan Love's gonna have the shittiest game.
SPEAKER_03:But here's my problem. Like, what our defense did last week against you guys. I get it, Green Bay doesn't have nearly the wide receivers that you guys do. But that quarterback and Jordan Love can get away from pressure. There's again. He can make the plays to wide receivers when they get open because he's running away from pressure. And if we couldn't sack, we only sacked Mr. Joe fucking statue flacco twice with your terrible offensive line. Green Bay's offensive line is I'm not saying Green Bay's offensive line is awesome. It's like one of the best in the league. But it's way better. And then they also have a quarterback that can move.
SPEAKER_02:So yes, they may not. But this is what I'm saying. He moves into mistakes. Jordan Love is the quarterback that throws a lot of almost interceptions.
SPEAKER_01:You're not wrong.
SPEAKER_02:You're not wrong. If he if it real quick, it's not even like the ball, like the defender had to make really make a play to get the interception. No, that nigga dropped it. Yeah. And it's every interception he throws. Real quick, I don't think Stenhit's gonna drop one. I didn't pick you, but you know. I'm not gonna I I'm not gonna bet on it. But I believe it could happen.
SPEAKER_03:I believe it can too, and that's my problem. But I'm just sitting there like, I just with all the facts that I saw from last game. I don't know how I can. I'm gonna root for the Steelers to win because I just I'm a sucker. I'll when it comes to game day, I'll be ready to root for the Steelers all day long. But I just don't know how I'm looking at that defense, how that's gonna change. You know what's crazy? The Micah Parsons hasn't done shit this year, and he'll come in the next in this game on Sunday, sorry, and he will have four sacks and get after Aaron Rodgers. But our off the lines look better. I don't I'll root for the I'll I'll pick the Steelers. Why not? Pick them, but I'm stupid. I I'm so stupid I shouldn't pick them, but I'll pick them.
SPEAKER_02:Do you have a George Pickens jersey?
SPEAKER_03:No. Do you have a Steelers jersey? Yeah. Who is it? Is it one you bought me? Who is it? Kenny Pickett. That thing will never see the light of day ever again. We'll never see the light of day. Ever again.
SPEAKER_01:I remember.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Oh no.
SPEAKER_02:I didn't even do that out of spite. I did that because I thought he was going to be your franchise guy.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, you did. No, it was it was a good pick.
SPEAKER_02:That note TJ Watt jersey just sold out.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Again, I'm I never questioned.
SPEAKER_02:What's one of the other options of George Pickett's jersey?
SPEAKER_03:It would have ended badly both ways, so it's fine. Yeah, I'm sorry. It's all good. But yeah, I'm gonna pick Pittsburgh. I'll root for them on game day. But I am very aware of the fact we will probably lose the game. Um heck. If if anything, I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, I know. It's crazy how that worked out. All right, that's Sunday night. Last but not least, Monday night. We only have one game this week, finally. The two Monday night games are not bad, but they what they did to us last week with the Seattle game being at 10 p.m. Seattle and Houston.
SPEAKER_02:They played it in Seattle, didn't they? Yes. That's why.
SPEAKER_03:But still, like at 10 p.m. I think also because they wanted everybody to focus on that that first game being the Lions in Tampa Bay.
SPEAKER_02:I had to watch my Michigan State play the Spartans play the USC at 10.40.
SPEAKER_03:I know. I know.
SPEAKER_02:It was three in the morning when the game ended.
SPEAKER_03:I know, but I'm saying it's for the NFL, it's kind of crazy that that's that the seven, seven o'clock, seven fifteen, eight fifteen kick, fine. I'm more than okay watching two games at once, but having one game start at 10 o'clock is crazy. That's crazy. On a Monday? That's crazy. On a Saturday, it's like a little better.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no one really has to work on Sunday, but everybody has to work on Monday.
SPEAKER_03:On Tuesday. Well, Tuesday. All right. Washington at Kansas City. Jan Daniels hurt his uh is he gonna play this week? I gotta check that real quick before I make my decision. I'm taking the Chiefs either way. But for fact's sake, they're saying Jan Daniels is out. He's not gonna play.
SPEAKER_02:So did you see his mom ask everybody to stop making comparisons between him and RG3?
SPEAKER_03:I understand why she would ask that, because obviously that's her son, and why even have that? It's a it's a toxic conversation. But also I think that they the comparisons are not crazy far off because he had the explosive first year. Again, he took them a lot farther than RG3 did. Getting them all the way to the NFC Championship game was awesome. But the it the now injury-riddled seasons out like as a Washington fan, it has to haunt you a little bit. Yeah, I'm I'm uh it's out of paranoia. It really is. It's just paranoia by the Washington, by Washington fans, and I get it, it's very toxic situation to have it.
SPEAKER_02:Again, as a Washington fan, it is probably some of the most haunting years of European of RG3 should have been our franchise guy.
SPEAKER_03:Because he looked so good and then it went badly so fast due to injuries. And Jaden Daniels, as good as he is, as awesome as he is. It's going downhill because of the injury. He's a hundred and he's like 180 pounds, he's not very big, he move he runs a lot, and the injuries he's starting to get are similar to RG3. Are similar injuries that are due to you getting hit slash running too much and getting those lower leg injuries, and that can be a derail of a and again, Jaden Yellow is really good under the pocket. I'm not sitting here saying that if he was just a pocket guy, he wouldn't be as good. But what makes him super special is for is him being able to run outside the pocket, extending plays, getting rushing yards. That's what turns him into being a superstar of what he looked like last year. I don't think he'll be the superstar without being able to use his legs. Not saying all the time, but using them a good amount. I I just don't think he'll be the superstar. I agree. So and it's a toxic conversation. I get it why his mom would, Jane Daniel's mom would not be happy with this conversation. It's very negative.
SPEAKER_02:But as a Washington fan, I understand why it's beating out.
SPEAKER_03:A lot of paranoia. I totally understand. Dude, totally understand it.
SPEAKER_02:Paranoia and just straight fear.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I get it. They want to have their guy. Again, he is there. He unlocks them having a chance to like really be relevant on a year-in-year out basis. That's how important the quarterback position is.
SPEAKER_02:And history tends to repeat itself. And as a Washington fan, I'd be shitting bricks right now.
SPEAKER_03:I totally understand. No, it makes it makes total sense on both sides. It really does. I'm gonna take Kansas City, though. Oh, I Kansas City has turned to the Death Star, like I already said, and that I'm fearful of. And I don't think Washington's gonna take that down. So, and the teams are on by this week Detroit, Vegas, Rams, Arizona, Seattle, and Jacksonville. All of them are on by. And uh, that is about it for all the football picks we have. Two splits. Two splits. Hopefully they at least tie. Two of which I believe I'm gonna win both of. Oh, that you're gonna win both of? Yeah, probably. Okay, fine. It's fine. I'm only a game behind you. I thought it was gonna be worse when I was calculating how our records were.
SPEAKER_02:Typically, I'm way behind by this point.
SPEAKER_03:True. Because you but here's the thing. I'm I think I've been more aggressive about making not just that, but I'm just I think I've just been more aggressive in general.
SPEAKER_02:It's not working.
SPEAKER_03:I just picked Dallas today in front of your face.
SPEAKER_02:You're not cut because I forced you into a decision.
SPEAKER_03:But if you usually if you force me into a decision, I pick the safer one.
SPEAKER_02:Whatever you want to say.
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