Spank Bank, Buyouts, And Bad Beats: Sports Are Messy And So Are We

One quiet college football weekend turned into a full-blown firestorm. We start with Michigan’s sudden collapse: a firing with cause, disturbing allegations, denials that didn’t hold, and the brutal timing around signing day and transfer portal windows. We connect the dots between brand, behavior, and why staff relationships can blow up an entire program’s plans. Then we zoom out to the practical fallout: recruits stuck in limbo, NIL leverage shifting fast, and a coaching market where December rarely gives you clean choices.

From there, it’s off to a wild NFL slate. Falcons–Bucs delivers a chaos classic as Tampa fails to sit on a two-score lead in the 4th quarter and let Kyle Pitts detonate. We talk game management, why “just run the ball” is sometimes the right answer, and how late drives make or break betting slips. Injuries loom large too— TJ Watt sustained a collapsed lung during a needling session and Tee Higgins concussion handled questionably—raising hard questions about team medical processes and risk tolerance. When margins are thin, the boring stuff decides seasons: protection calls, coverage checks, and keeping your best players healthy.

The biggest energy comes from a candid Joe Burrow moment about joy and longevity. We unpack the Bengals’ roster bets, the T. Higgins decision, and why an elite quarterback needs more than hope. Then we game out the wildest what-ifs: Burrow in McVay’s system with the Rams, a reunion with Justin Jefferson in Minnesota, or the league-shifting version with the Eagles that would break football on contact. None of it’s guaranteed, but the pattern is clear—teams that admit flaws and overcorrect stay dangerous. Teams that posture and delay get exposed. After those fireworks we still manage to go through the rest of the week 15 slate making our picks and predicting how we think those games will play out.

If this blend of scandal breakdowns, tactical NFL analysis, and smart hypotheticals hits your sports brain, tap follow, share the show with a friend, and drop a quick five-star review. What’s your boldest Burrow landing spot—and who says no?

Chapters

• 0:00 Friday Kickoff & Army–Navy Dread
• 3:27 College Season Lull And Playoff Fallout
• 3:58 Michigan Scandal Breaks Wide Open
• 8:23 Allegations, Timeline, And Firing With Cause
• 13:12 Recruits, Portal Windows, And Coaching Search
• 17:37 Could DeBoer Or Kelly Land In Ann Arbor?
• 21:41 Michigan’s Image Versus Reality
• 24:12 Pivot To NFL And Prime Targets
• 29:08 Falcons–Bucs Thriller And Betting Recap
• 35:03 Tampa’s Collapse And Atlanta’s Stars
• 41:12 MLB Money Talk: Dodgers, Mets, And Caps
• 46:24 Injuries, Collapsed Lung, And Concussions
• 51:12 Burrow’s Future, Bengals’ Missteps, Trade Scenarios
• 1:03:44 Eagles, Rams, Vikings: Burrow What-Ifs
• 1:10:56 Which NFL Teams Actually Try?
• 1:20:24 Draft Whiffs, O-Line Woes, And Owner Problems
• 1:29:12 Around The League: Titans, Jags, Dolphins
• 1:38:56 Week Picks: Upsets, Lines, And Leanings
• 1:53:45 Avatar Game Tangent And Wrap-Up
• 1:56:56 Show Closing And Listener Support

Transcript

SPEAKER_04: 0:09

Welcome back to the podcast. Today is Friday, December 12th. We're back from the podcast.

SPEAKER_05: 0:14

We're back. It's Friday. We have this is like the start. This is like the one little spot where technically you have college football, but it's you don't have college football. Because especially this week, you have the what is it, the Army Navy game that's happening this week, but then other than that, there's really no other college football going on at all, and then NFL is still going as as scheduled. Again, do I ever go into a game that game actually wanting to watch it? No, I respect the game. I respect the spectacle that it is and the history that it holds, but do I actually like go into it saying I'm about to watch these two teams bludgeon each other for two and a half, three hours and not score points?

SPEAKER_04: 1:02

I don't know. I didn't say it was good.

SPEAKER_05: 1:05

Like I was watching a um gambling show and then they're talking about that game. The idea that they were so confident to put in a parlay that they were making for their show, halftime tie, no thank you. I don't want to I don't want any part in it. Because there's this thing, oh, we're just that's just how it's gonna go. And I'm sitting here like that. The fact that that is something that you can think about for a parlay in a game like that, I just don't want to be a part of it. And I'm not gonna say I won't go into like, oh, I need to watch this game. It's just not gonna happen. I might watch a few clips or I'll keep an eye on the scoreboard. But as to actually watching the game, that will not be me. That's not the type of college ball fan I am. Well, I am a great I I don't know. Maybe that makes me not as good of a college ball fan because I'm just there's a game I'm not willing to watch, but I'm not gonna try to parse that either way. But no no big amount of college football, the regular season is over. We talked about all this like championship weekend, we talked about all the the um the playoffs and what the what the matchups are, and unf unfortunately or fortunately, depending on what side you sit, Jace, it's fortunately because he's not that big of a college ball fan as if Michigan State's not really doing anything. They don't. And for me, it's a little bit downside because you know, even though actually it's a downside because I really like watching high-level college football, but on the plus side, I get to get a little get away from Ohio State a little bit and maybe watch Julian saying go lose a Heisman trophy. He has to go sit there in a chair and look happy for Fernando Mendoza while he wins the Heisman because Fernando hit one or two more passes in that game. But other than that, I get to walk go away from Ohio State. Again, he made the few big passes. I'm not he didn't have an amazing game. I'm not in all honesty, Saiyan was better.

SPEAKER_04: 2:45

Again, I'm not gonna parse that out. I know no, no, no. What I'm saying, Saiyan was better. Indiana just won the game. Yeah. There's a difference. You didn't lose because Saiyan was bad. No, you lost because you could you just the coaching staff had a terrible plan in the red zone. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_05: 3:02

It was a bad uh coach game. Right. Not because Saiyan was bad. Saiyan was pretty good. He was fine, and he was great, he was great in that game. And honestly, he was the only thing really going, him and the wide receivers. Yeah, but the offensive line had the worst game and all that, but I don't want to re-re kind of hash that out.

SPEAKER_04: 3:16

No, I'm just saying I I am big on giving that man his credit.

SPEAKER_05: 3:22

Hey, I'll be more than happy to take it. I'm not gonna be sitting here and be like Jalen Julian Sand doesn't deserve any sort of credit for that game because he was fighting for his life out there. No question, without the protection he needed and without, you know, having a really good game plan from the coaches, that was how that game went, and that's why Ohio State lost it. Again, I'm not butthurt about it. I'm a little bit butthurt, but I'm not like brokenhearted about it or anything. But you know, it is what it is on that. But you know what made me feel happy? Watching the state of Michigan and their team, that team up north, fall to pieces over this past week. And I think this was on Wednesday when everything started coming out, because I know I was at the gym, so it's definitely Wednesday. At the gym, and the next thing you know, the first hex I get is Sharone is fired. And the news came out that Sharone Moore had been fired as the head coach of the that team up north or Michigan, depending on how you say, I'll say Michigan, because I'm just trying to, you know, we beat them, so there's no reason to try to do all this madness. So he got fired. And as to the reason why he got fired was probably 24 hours of the most joyous time I've ever watched watching another team crumble under the weight of all of the madness that they've been pulling off over the last three, four, five years now. The idea of having an opportunity as Ohio State fan to beat them a couple weeks ago in the way that we did. We thumped them in their own house, and then to watch everything crumble as it is. Again, there's some really serious things happening that I'm not gonna sit here and be like, I I was happy that happened. But that notwithstanding, there was a lot of funny things that happen and that are coming out as a as in a story that I got to have a lot of chuckles about, and I wanted to talk about that before we get to the NFL stuff, since there is no college football. So, Jay, so we'll go ahead and lay out these facts, and as we go, just if you have any thoughts, go for it, and I'll make sure to go in if I have anything. Copy. Shrun Moore, it comes out that he was fired on that Wednesday, and the reason was because he had an extra-male little affair with his executive assistant. I'm not sure if it was his executive assistant or an executive assistant in the football program at the University of Michigan. And according to the story that came out and everything, he this has been there was a relationship that he had with this woman. He is a married man, obviously, with multiple children. Um he had an affair with this woman for multiple years. Apparently, he was having the affair with her while he was still an office coordinator there. And then when he became the head coach there, he gave her a raise. Apparently she was making like 50k and it went up to 100k. He gave her a 50% raise, 100% raise, when he got the head coaching job there. And from what the what the story was, was that he also got her pregnant and also had to get had to pay to get the abortion and all of that. Other parts of the story was that apparently they she ended the relationship with him, and he had been stalking her for months now, and that when I think there was recently that she was fired, she went to the university with proof that their their affair had happened, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, all these things were happening. The story is that Michigan had known about this for weeks now, and apparently, according to Michigan boosters and stuff like that, as soon as they had law, as soon as they lost to Ohio State a few weeks ago, literally the stories were going rampant. I'm not necessarily it wasn't going public necessarily. There was one guy that got the story and that came out with it on Twitter, and then everybody was looking at like sit pretty much calling him like, hey, this is unreliable, you doesn't know what he's talking about, this isn't true, and he pretty much got laughed off when he came out with the story, but then it all came out to be to be true when that story came out on Wednesday. So Michigan had known about this for months now. They asked him about it, he told them no, it wasn't happening and all of that, and then they had gone on and kept kind of like looking at it, and then by the time that they had lost to Ohio State, things are going out, the investigation was purely underway. She had come with the proof of their relationship and all of that, and it came down to Wednesday of them deciding to fire him with cause so they don't have to pay him any sort of money as a buyout. And this is where I sit on the issue. Funny, hilarious, the fact that all of this, the Michigan men thing that they like to sit on, the high horse, when it comes to what their values are, and we're Michigan men, we're tougher than you, and all of that, and to have all of this hit their program on top of the fact that they had been cheating in years past when um Harbaugh was there and all the things that heck there's been apparently on their coaching staff with the Harbaugh, there has been nine arrests over like the last five years of different coaches from their coaching staff. Something that is not happening on other coaching staffs throughout the country, no matter what they would like to tell you. And now it's kind of culminating into Sherrowmore when he got the job in Michigan, he was like nobody really looked at him as like a long-term answer, but he had beat Ohio State a couple times, and people were starting to have a little bit of faith in him to potentially go ahead and like maybe be the guy long term. But nobody had really thought he was a great head coach and really deserving of having that spot at the University of Michigan. And I I don't know, man. I'm just like, and I talked to Asante, by the way, our resident guy that we know that is a good friend of ours, and he's a Michigan fan, and I kind of told him about it. I texted him after, because I had texted him when we had beat them, and uh, he never texted me back. I know you had totally didn't say shit.

SPEAKER_04: 9:22

I thought that was hilarious.

SPEAKER_05: 9:23

And then I'm like, I gave him his time. I gave him I texted him, said, Hey, everything's right in the world, I'm cool, I'm gonna be gracious about this, we'll talk at some point. But he had not said shit, and then on Wednesday, when all that happened, I had texted him like, hey, we haven't you haven't said anything since the day happened, and then now today your guy's getting fired. I need a wellness check here. You good? And he texted me back, and then we had the conversation, and he's like, Oh, why is he getting fired for just having an affair? Like all these. And because here's the thing if they were if every coach that had an affair in college football had gotten fired, there's gonna be a lot of coaches that don't have jobs. That's not the problem. The the fair, it's it's a problem because you'd like for them to be honorable and not do any of that. The problem was the fact that this was a staffer. There's two options that you don't want as a coach to have an affair with your uh when it comes to potentially taking you out from your job. Don't have that affair with a staffer and don't have it with a student. Those are your only two options. Everything else is on the table. Apparently, on top of that, he was in uh DMing Instagram models. A bunch of Instagram models came out and said that he was he was DMing them and they were like going to his game. So like he was have it wasn't just this white woman that he was having this affair with that was on his own staff. There was plenty of women that were also doing he was doing stuff with uh throughout the years. But he picked the wrong one, and it didn't go well, and that's the thing. When something like this happens, same thing that happened with the Celtics coach, Ime Udoka, the guy that's now coaching for the Rockets, when it was it came out that he was having the affair with this with somebody that's on the in the staff.

SPEAKER_03: 11:04

That boy cheated on me alone.

SPEAKER_05: 11:06

He did. But the problem is that when things don't work out, they can sit there and say they were pressured by their boss to have the affair and all of that, and that becomes a huge lawsuit. So it's like this is the one thing you just don't do. You can do whatever you want, do all the Instagram models you would like. Again, at a place like Michigan, they probably would still look down upon it because they want to be Michigan men, they're honorable, they're good people, and all of that. All bullshit, all bullshit, but they would they like to stand on it. If he was at if he was anywhere in the SEC, they'd be just fine. Ed O was doing it forever, hitting on people's, like people in the staff's like wives, stuff like that, and nobody ever said shit until they lost too many games, and then they fired him. Like, so if he was in the SEC, he'd be more okay, even though the staffer thing is the one thing you can't do. But like, he's at Michigan, they weren't gonna stand for it, and he lost, he went nine and three, and they kind of didn't really like him in the first place. So as soon as he gave them a reason, they took the reason and they made sure that they don't even have to pay him on the back end. So now with all those um facts coming out, oh, on top of that, as soon as that happened, apparently he had went off the deep end, he had broken into the woman's house that he was having the affair with, threatened to kill her and himself. I'm I'm I'm laughing by the idea because he the thought that goes into my brain is like in any movie where the black dude is going and things are going wrong and he's having a mental breakdown. Bitch, I'm gonna kill you and myself. Like, like it's almost like if a funny thing, because it happens in movies and stuff, but in the moment it probably wasn't funny, it was a real serious issue. And the dude's life is falling apart. I get the idea that he was going off the deep end. Not only everything in his family is going terribly, but his his his life, everything's out in the open, and he ended up getting arrested. On all this, all of this on Wednesday, by the way, everything kind of went down altogether. He gets arrested, he's getting charged with assault, he's getting charged with uh breaking and entering, he's getting solved uh some some other charge too. So he's getting charged, there's some real charges going his way, and on on top on top of all that, he's getting fired, and now all of this is such a huge mess for the University of Michigan. So now here's my question. If they knew about this this long ago, if he knew they knew about this for weeks, and again, if there's boosters that are talking about it right after they had lost to Ohio State, the university knew well before that. And apparently they had been talking to people and trying to get gauge people's interests for weeks now to try to like have their own like silent search without necessarily breaking the news that they were firing Sharon Moore. I think the scummy thing about this was the fact that they had waited so long and they had just had signing day last week. And now all those recruits had signed a letter of intent to go to Michigan, and now everything is falling apart. So now you have those those guys that had already been recruited, they they said, Hey, I'm coming to Michigan. Like they signed their letter of his intent, and now everything's falling apart, and now they have to ask for their release from their letters of intent so they can go find another school. He changed his profile pick from a Michigan one to back to his like LSU one that he had beforehand. He is gone. Do I think he's like pure like Shirley? And that's the other problem. Who are you gonna fucking hire? Because everybody'd either got a new job or gotten a big payday from the school that they were at to stay. So either they have to go hunting for guys that have already gotten big paydays and they have to pay the buyouts to get them and then bring them over. Or they have to go get a guy they probably don't like in order just to fill the spot until they can get a guy they really can get, like later on down the line, which is what Sheryl Moore was supposed to be. He was supposed to be a stopgap. So now they might have to get a stopgap for the stopgap until they can f actually get a real coaching search together next year and then have real time to kind of get things together. But it's just all this shit is falling down the wave side, and I'm sitting there like, if you knew about this a while ago, why didn't you just act upon it then? So here's my thought if he beats Ohio State, do you think and they're in the playoff? Do you think they fire him?

SPEAKER_03: 15:13

I'd like to say yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 15:16

I would like to say yes, but no, probably not.

SPEAKER_05: 15:19

I'm starting to feel like they wouldn't have because if this was the pro thing they're gonna do, they should have done this m weeks, months ago. Because think about the guy that got hired by Penn State. Um, um, um, why am I forgetting the guy's name? Uh Matt Matt Campbell. That was a guy that people were saying he's been looking at the Michigan job for years now and looked like, oh, that'd be a great spot. And he just got hired by Penn State last week. So that's a thought. It's like there's other guys that they could have had an opportunity to go get, but they they waited. So it makes me think that they were really about to like sit on this for as long as they possibly fucking could if they managed to beat Ohio State, if they managed to get into the playoff, they weren't this shit, they were not gonna fire him in the middle of the playoff run. They weren't. So this really does make me think that they just wanted to find a reason to fire him, and then they apparently he just gave them a reason by doing what he was doing, so they don't have to pay him a buyout in order to get him out of there. But now, because you decide to do it at the timing that you did, and now you're screwed because you may not be able to find the guy that you want, and now your player's gonna have a chance to leave because here's the the rule as of right now the transfer portal opens in like a week or so, and then what happens is that no matter so if some of the players don't leave when the transfer portal opens up, guess what? There's another portal that opens up as soon as you hire a head coach, five days after Michigan hires a new head coach, they have a 30 sorry, a 15-day portal window that opens up. So now every team in college football can come attack your players, and you won't have an opportunity to go get any of theirs.

SPEAKER_04: 16:49

And they're going to. Because the portal is closed. They're going to, because they I know people want Bryce Underwood.

SPEAKER_05: 16:54

Oh, if he if the new portal that comes up, because here's the thing, because the players that just signed, if their NLI doesn't get doesn't get broken, because Michigan has to grant them their breaking of the NLI, they would have to wait until the new coach gets hired in order for to go into that portal.

unknown: 17:10

NLI.

SPEAKER_05: 17:11

The na the national letter of intent. It's a different thing now. It's like a money thing. They don't really call it that anymore, but I'm just for the sake of argument, for the sake of not having to explain it, I'm just gonna say the paper that you signed. I've never heard of that. The paper that you signed saying you're gonna go to that school, and it's pretty much like a like a pretty much like a I swear kind of thing. But there's NIL involved, and like all there's money involved in it. So those players, if they're not granted the breaking by Michigan, they're gonna have to wait until a new coach is hired. They're gonna have to wait for that portal to open. But anybody that's on that team already, Bryce Underwood or any of those young players that all were on that on that team this past season, when the portal opens up, they're all gonna be in it. Like they're all gonna have an opportunity to go if they if they decide to. And do you know what somebody said was a perfect, potentially a perfect um spot because they don't have a job right now, they're not coaching. It's Brian Kelly. The idea that Brian Kelly gets fired from LSU going doing as terribly as he did, and then he gets to potentially find a spot in Michigan, and he can go take that and make it even worse. Because let's be honest, he was at Notre Dame before, and he like underachieved to a certain extent, because everybody believed, like even myself, I believe Notre Dame really wasn't good enough to be a team that's on a national title chance every year. But it turns out that um why am I forgetting the coach, the new coach's name? Um it's freaking Marcus Freeman. He takes the job over, he has top recruiting classes, he's getting to a national title game like he did last year against Ohio State, and they're really like a part of like really being a chance to be a contender every year. So yeah, everything's falling apart at the University of Michigan. I'm very I'm I'm not gonna say I'm happy about it because there are some real unfortunate things that are happening. Families getting torn apart, like people are getting a people are getting stalked, all those things, notwithstanding, it's a very funny situation, and just the more time goes by, the more it just gets more and more insane. That at a place like Michigan where they claim to be Michigan men, they claim to be high class and all of that, is that they have let so much shit happen at that school over the last five, ten years, and they still try to have that same type of bravado. And I'm sitting there like, just admit you're you're disgusting like the rest of us. And again, I'm not sitting here saying like Ohio State is trying to they're like trying to be disgusting.

SPEAKER_04: 19:44

I know, but like Michigan acts like their shit don't stink.

SPEAKER_05: 19:47

Right. And it's it's been stinking for a while. It's bad. And it's they've been cheating on the field, there's been crazy stuff going on off the field, obviously, with not only um Sharone Moore, but other coaches. Heck, there was a coach on their staff. that was downloading pictures of student athlete women, student athletes from their database and using them for his own little spank bank. Like they have people like that on their ro on their coaching staff. Like they spank bank is crazy. I couldn't find another more eloquent way to say it. Could you find another better better word for the spank bank?

SPEAKER_04: 20:19

I would have just not used spank bank. I would have said for his own personal use.

SPEAKER_05: 20:25

Again, I just think it got I got my point across a little bit better with just using the words I wanted to use. Spank bank is crazy. It might be but it got it got the point across. You laughed right away didn't you? Yeah. But yes, I had to submit, I wanted to make sure I talked about all this because it's an absolute dumpster fire happening in the team up north. And I think Ryan Day got to pop a nice big puddle of champagne and get to like revel in the downfall of that team up north. And again he'll never say it out loud. He'll be high class just like after the after the game when we beat them he no flag planting all of that. He's going to be high class in front of everybody but I know and I expect when he's sitting alone with him and his wife or people in his inner circle he gets to laugh about how fucking stupid that university is and how much bullshit they've been throwing out on everybody for the last five ten years is that now it's kind of coming back all on them. It's kind of like karma to a certain extent. So very funny situation. Again some bad parts but if you don't look at those very funny situation that I got to have a lot of chuckles at and I wanted to talk about that before we got into the rest of what we want to talk about. So without further ado let's go ahead and start talking about some NFL stuff.

SPEAKER_00: 21:37

Sports.

SPEAKER_05: 21:38

Sports oh do you have a apparently there's only one guy that they like that's currently still coaching that they were trying to go after apparently Kalen DeBoer the Alabama head coach and you were making the case last week about if Alabama loses that first game to Oklahoma that they would fire him. And I wasn't necessarily too keen I don't think they're going to fire him. I think they're pretty much locked in on Calen De Boer as of right now. It wouldn't be the university trying to fire him it would be the fans that want to get him out of there. But if the temperature gets high enough maybe Calen DeBoor wants to go and find a spot he's more I think is a Midwest guy and he was at Indiana at one point as office coordinator and then he was at Washington. So like maybe it's not a cultural cultural fit and he'll want to leave but he did that night he did um go out and tweet that I'm staying at Alabama roll tide.

SPEAKER_04: 22:29

And again I never assume that it'd be him that wanted to leave it be the fan base forcing him out.

SPEAKER_05: 22:36

Or maybe it's family maybe it's his family that's like hey why are we in Tuscaloosa we won't want to be here like maybe that maybe those things are happening. But I just think that when it comes to prestige in Tuscaloosa it's not in like Montgomery nope Tuscaloosa middle of nowhere that's the funny little secret about all a lot of these SEC schools they're not in high pop they're not in high density population like they're not in big areas Alabama Tuscaloosa a good portion of them are not in high high density populational populational areas. Georgia is in located in Lawrenceville They have two satellite campuses but look where's the location like don't do this University of Georgia is in I can't have to go to maps because there's not just gonna say it on Google Athens. Athens Georgia which is pretty far from Atlanta middle of nowhere so like you know maybe maybe Alabama is not where his family or himself really sees himself being long term but you know it is what it is.

SPEAKER_00: 24:40

I don't know where the fuck that's at it is what it is.

SPEAKER_05: 24:42

But again the fact they're still trying to swing for the fence for a guy that's at a place that's kind of better than the University of Michigan ACC no Tennessee is in the Tennessee is in Knoxville Knoxville's a pretty big oh and Vanderbilt is in uh Nashville yeah the Tennessee schools are fine again Tennessee is just this yeah so uh I would know I would have been there recently I did go to Knoxville Nashville and their other one there's three cities Knoxville Nashville Memphis and Memphis I was able to make it to all three of those in a day so again they're only an hour apart yeah for sure like that's not that's not a long drive so I I but I think that whole state is a college town yeah I I you've been in we've all we've both been through Knoxville is nothing but the volunteers no doubt yeah for sure no I agree once you get to Memphis then it's like okay you have the Titans the Titans are in Nashville that is a sports state yeah that is a sports state yeah for sure they have the they have ever they have every sport they do not have a baseball team um do they not have a baseball team I guess they don't do they do have a hockey team they do have hockey no baseball though and they probably have some of the smallest market teams in every league yeah but think about it Tennessee is still an up and coming type of state when it comes to growing they're still growing in general no outside of those three big cities the next one I think of is Pigeon Forge and that's a tourist town you're not wrong like Gatlinburg tourist town yeah okay I was thinking about they're probably a really small market type of team like Memphis is a small market team yeah no for sure it's not that no nothing in Tennessee is really looked at as a as a big market type of thing no you're you're not wrong you're not wrong how the fuck are the how do the Titans make more money than the Bengals they just have Richard owner my fault of you they just got more money from than the bank but they just have more money in the bank all right NFL we got to let's go is owned by a billionaire maybe Joe Burrow would be happy to play football a real like a big boy billionaire not just a small billion with a B Capital B.

SPEAKER_04: 27:32

Jeff Bezos I don't give a fuck Jeff Bezos because I'm the Bengals I don't care if I need an Amazon Prime subscription to watch your football games no I'll do it I'll do it bro speaking of Amazon Prime subscription uh Thursday night game last night we'll get to talk about that and then we'll get to the news and then we'll get to the rest of the game just making bet in the chat no you bitch what the fuck is you were so mad at me and I put you the one tight end that you don't like I put him in the bet and you would have instantly cussed me out I know but again you didn't even throw it in the chat why is it every bet you win you don't you know it makes me no it makes it a little bit harder I would have to text to you because that wasn't on DraftKings what was it on?

SPEAKER_05: 28:10

I have money I've I have money on two different accounts rock one I have hard rock I have money in hard rock and I have money on um my bank refuses I know I know I had to call them and they're like no yeah we're not putting on I have money in hard rock and I have money in um the FanDuel bro I can't stop every bet you don't post you win.

SPEAKER_04: 28:26

What the fuck? So real quick and it was that wasn't a small like a little bit of money that was$2 new 163. Yeah was it was plus plus 800?

SPEAKER_05: 28:34

Was it the Kyle Pitts that fucking threw you over that no it it I can show you the best easily he was like a he was like a plus three four hundred no hip his wasn't I actually went low on him because I'm like oh it's Kyle Pitts I don't want because his over under was like 55 and a half receiving yards I put it at 40. Ooh see you could have fucked around it imagine you put it at like 60 oh no I would it would have been such money because I'm like again I've been I've we've been burned by Kyle Pitts before so I'm like I'm gonna stay away but I know he was like the main guy on their offense and he went fucking off last night. Speaking of that game I'll talk about the bet here in a minute that I've made and won. But the game last night very very fun game to watch in general it was between the Falcons and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. We both picked uh Tampa Bay to win that game we both lost that one because you know I think coaching malfeasance in the way that it was kind of handled at the end but we'll get to that in a minute but it was a very back and forth game um Kirk Cousins he actually had a really good game 30 at 44 373 three touchdowns all of them to Kyle Pitts by the way um he went off last night probably had his best best game as a pro. Bijan Robinson 19 carries 93 yards and a touchdown he went he went off and had a really good game he also had 82 yards receiving eight catches 82 yards receiving Kyle Pitts 11 catches 166 three touchdowns he went absolutely insane bonkers and again I knew that the Tampa Bay defense was not going to be able to really stop the Atlanta offense so that's why I was like a little bit more confident in putting Kyle Pitts in any of my bets I it was him and Bichon were like the main two but like even in the bet that I that I won Kirk Cousins I had him at two plus touchdowns and he hit three of them so so Atlanta was really able to kind of like go off and like have a really good game. Again I don't doubt Kyle Pitts can have great games I just want to bet on him again I made my bets and here's the funny here's the crazy thing I was lucky but not lucky enough because I made two separate bets okay before I get to the 10th base side of it let's just dive into it real quick. So I made two separate bets one in hard rock and then the other in uh FanDuel right my hard rock bet was it was a it was a five leg bet and I'm like it was plus 800 I did it I had a 100% boost. So I can't I was like th it was like$3 bet it would have ended up being 60 bucks if I won. I needed Bucky Irving to get over 19 and a half receiving yards I needed Kyle Pitts to get over 39 and a half receiving yards he had 166 like I already said I needed Baker to get 220 over 226 um receiv uh passing yards and he got over that Mecca I needed him to get over 46 and a half he went over I needed B. John Robinson to get over 41 and a half receiving yards and he went over the Bucky Irving part was the one I didn't get and he had 11 out of the 20 that I needed and that would have a$3 bet to win 60. But the bet that I did win it was on my FanDuel count and that was like another five leg parley I think and that was Baker over two over one and a half touchdown passes he got that Kirco needed him to get two touchdown passes he got that mech to get over 60 plus receiving yards he beat that Chris Goblin over three and a half catches hit that B. John Robinson over 30 receiving yards he destroyed that and again Kyle Pitts 40 plus receiving yards and he hit that and I bet two bucks to win 60 so but this is how it came out the end of that game. It came down to the last drive for Tampa Bay where they were trying to come back and win the game and I think they all they had to do was try to run out the clock because they had like a two-point lead at that point. It was like 28 to 27 26 right all Tampa needed to do was like milk the clock be able to have a nice long drive and then be able to win the football game it came down to that last drive and I needed one person to do one thing for each bet. And it came down to I needed Chris Goblin to get one more catch for the um for the fan duel bet I needed uh B uh sorry Bucky Irving to get the last nine yards that I needed for him receiving and I would have won either one of those bets and I'm like I just need one of them to happen at least win one of these bets and hope if if not both. Again I was trying to be a little greedy why not but I got the one catch I needed out of Chris Goblin but they only got one first down then had to punt the ball back off to Tampa Bay sorry to Atlanta. So with all of that all in all it was a very good night last night only bet five bucks managed to win 60 good night for me wasn't the most lucky but I was lucky enough and I'll take that all day long. To the Tampa Bay side Baker 1934 277 two touchdowns one pick Bucky Irving had 60 yards rushing off 16 carries um this is what I'll have to say did you know Mike Evans came back last night? No I had no idea he was coming back. I think I I might have had a little bit of an inkling when I was making my bets and I saw Mike Evans on the on the um ticket being able to be bet on and I'm like oh maybe they're just bringing him back because apparently it was like a shoulder injury that sidelined him for most of the season and I was like they're gonna slow play and they're not gonna have him back coming back right away and doing like doing a lot of snaps or whatever I thought they're gonna have him on a snap count. He had six catches 132 yards he was cooking last night mech he was able now that he wasn't gonna be the number one guy and they weren't able to like focus on him as much able hide a little bit he was four catches 64 yards he was able to do what he was normal he didn't get the touchdown pass but like other than that he was very good very he was like getting open and stuff like that but Mike Evans took away all the oxygen out of the room because he was out he was out there playing and you know that's Baker Mayfield's guy but the thing was about this game was that Tampa Bay had gotten a lead at one point in this game it was let me make sure I had this right at one point in this game it was 28 to 14 in the fourth quarter they had a two touchdown lead and they let the Falcons score 21 sorry 14 21 unanswered points in the last like 10 minutes of that game in order to win it and Tampa Bay just could not stay on the field and they kept having to punt the football off and they weren't able to take time off the clocks they couldn't run the football like they wanted to so I was just sitting there like it was a it was an annoying game when it comes to like because me and you I think we're both pretty big fans of Tampa and we were like good we were finally me being on the Baker bandwagon because I'm like I finally like him now after all the years of like being a true hater of him and you were more on the Baker side over the last few years than I have been but we were both like hey Tampa Bay can really do some things and they were they were a really good football team but it's just that team has just kind of fallen by the wayside they had a nice big lead in their division and we were sitting there like oh it can really if they just keep taking care of business they can win this division without much of an issue the problem is is that they are now tied with Carolina and Carolina still has to play this week so there is a real chance that Carolina gets in the playoffs over Tampa Bay. And like maybe Tampa Bay can kind of get in as a wild card but like the fact that they're they're struggling with Carolina is a real issue. And Tampa Bay's defense is not all that great they they have a lot of guys missing from their secondary and that was very apparent last night the fact that in this game for Atlanta they had this wide receiver because obviously they didn't have Drake London playing in this game. So he didn't play he hasn't played whatsoever he's been hurt over the last few games they had this wide receiver David Sills the fifth a white wide receiver in this game number 87 he had six catches for 78 yards the fact that this dude was able to kind of cook in this game and like make a play and here's the thing he had six catches for 78 yards and he dropped an instant touchdown literally he was all by himself all he had to do was catch the football and he was gliding into the end zone and he went out another like 50 60 yards and Kirk Cousins was pissed because he had dropped the football because he was wide open it was a perfectly placed ball I like he just totally let the ball go straight through his hands. But it's just this was a coaching malfeasance by the by Tampa to not be able to win this game when they had a two touchdown lead in the fourth quarter. And again credit to Atlanta for doing what they had to do but I think there was a way that Tampa kind of managed the game a little bit better. Instead of trying to go for the throat and like go ahead and win they could have ran the football a little bit more tried to like sustain some drives rather than try to hit big plays down the field and I think they would have had a better chance of win this game to help their defense out because their defense was getting torched by Kyle Pitts and Bijan hitting had having all the yards that he had in David Sills. So it was a very fun game I was watching it from my bets I had a fun time with it and it sucks to see that Tampa Bay is going to be battling with Carolina because if I had to pick between the two teams I would definitely rather see Tampa Bay in the playoffs playing against whoever they're going to play against instead of Carolina.

SPEAKER_04: 37:55

Exactly because as soon as Carolina plays up against some of those like top teams in the NFC they're gonna have to face they're gonna get destroyed it's not going to be a close so we have to play an actual NFC team I don't know I that whole division is fucking ass.

SPEAKER_05: 38:12

It is again the Tampa's always been bad of I just need six to seven I need seven to eight wins and I'll win the division so yeah it was just it was a fun game to watch but it definitely has its um downsides to it because now I'm just sitting there like I just don't want Carolina to get in because they don't don't deserve to be a playoff team. They just don't I agree um not they don't deserve it because if you win enough games you just you win your division you deserve it but you you're not they're not a good enough team to do anything in the playoffs. That's probably what I wanted to say.

SPEAKER_04: 38:41

I agree I think yeah uh but in other news real quick just want to talk about some baseball news um they can't keep getting away with this how the fuck they signed Edwin Diaz yeah I saw that they were I think three years like 60 something million dollars something like that they just keep finding money it's like they're going in the couch cushions like oh go find some change yeah and they're finding hundreds there's they're not even there there's nothing jingling down there.

SPEAKER_05: 39:05

They're finding thousands they're finding just hundred dollar bills just sitting around everywhere and I'm certainly like I just don't know how they keep finding money.

SPEAKER_04: 39:10

They're cheap they're cheating.

SPEAKER_05: 39:12

And the way that I see it is like it's almost because I know as a as Yankee fans I know we also benefit from having more money than a lot of other teams a big market team but the Dodgers are like I again I've talked about this before Dodgers are using like having players um they're like sending money they're deferring their money. So so like Shoheotani is not getting paid this you want to fold it shut so it lines up better. And then do it and then find the spot. There you go. Yeah it's some it just evens out so much better. No I understand but it's still they're deferring their money it's and they don't they don't get taxes high. That's the pr that's how they can do it. Because of their tax code there.

SPEAKER_04: 40:03

The thing is, my problem with this is everybody, oh, they have all this money, and I'm like, Yeah, they do. I'm like, but there's a lot of teams that aren't spending any money. True. So people were saying there should be no cap limit. If you got the money, pay the money. But there should be a minimum of what you a cap floor. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 40:23

And I think a cap floor would force some teams to actually try to be competitive.

SPEAKER_04: 40:28

Yes. Instead of just sitting around making money.

SPEAKER_05: 40:31

I agree, but what the Dodgers are doing makes me like want to cap one want a cap hit uh sorry, a salary cap. It wants me makes me want a salary cap, even though I think it hurts everybody because if a team's willing to spend the money, they should be willing to spend the money.

SPEAKER_04: 40:44

Let them spend the money. They're willing to spend it. The Yankees are willing to spend it too.

SPEAKER_05: 40:48

But they just don't have the all their players want all their money. Like they can't take advantage of the same things that the Dodgers are.

SPEAKER_04: 40:54

All their players aren't famous around the world. Otani probably makes more money in Japan than he does fucking here.

SPEAKER_05: 40:59

Yeah, that's what he's that's what he's living off of.

SPEAKER_04: 41:01

Like, I I don't need that.

SPEAKER_05: 41:03

They say he gets paid like 50-60 million just from all the Japan stuff, and then he doesn't have to worry about the money from the Dodgers. Like, hey, I'll get it later from you. It's all good.

SPEAKER_04: 41:10

Exactly. But again, that's the difference. It's a different kind of star. He is an international superstar. He is Japan's hero. Yeah? Like uh Ichiro's another good example. He probably wasn't making as much here as he was in Japan.

SPEAKER_05: 41:24

Oh, yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04: 41:25

I agree. Bunches of money. So it's just like they don't really need as much up front. It's not a huge deal for me.

SPEAKER_05: 41:33

And it's not just him, it's like a bunch of other players too are doing the exact same thing.

SPEAKER_04: 41:36

Because I'm an international superstar.

SPEAKER_05: 41:39

It's not just that, it's just they're willing to take the short-term hit for the long term, not just the winning, but for the money long term, they end up making more of their money because it's not getting tax as high as if you were getting it all up front.

SPEAKER_04: 41:52

Which is true. But again, I think just in like eight or nine years, this is gonna hit the dodge hard.

SPEAKER_05: 42:00

Will it though?

SPEAKER_04: 42:02

Yes.

SPEAKER_05: 42:02

As long as they're making money hand over fist, like MLB teams are still making money. Like if it gets to a point where they're not making money, maybe that'll be a problem. But as long as they keep making the money they're making, it's fine. They're gonna pay it back later. It's all good.

SPEAKER_04: 42:15

No, honestly, they could not be making money. They could just be looking at people like, hey, we're about to go on a three-peep. We now have could they what the other Japanese pitcher, they started he started to get better as the year went on. Yeah, he started.

SPEAKER_05: 42:29

No, he had an amazing World Series.

SPEAKER_04: 42:31

Yeah. Suddenly, he has no issues pitching.

SPEAKER_05: 42:35

Didn't he win the MVP? He won the MVP in the in the end.

SPEAKER_04: 42:38

Yeah. Real quick, this is the same dude that had a bunch of issues coming in. Couldn't throw right, was having terrible outings. Suddenly he is one of the better pitchers in baseball.

SPEAKER_05: 42:47

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 42:47

The Dodgers take pitches like, no, we can fix it.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 42:50

Uh Michael Kopek.

SPEAKER_05: 42:52

They don't have full bullpens, but they are gonna be if you're a starting pitcher and you can do some things, they'll be more than happy to take you and sit on you as long as you need, and then you'll they'll work you through it for sure. They do. So it yeah, you know, the Dodgers keep getting away with it. The Mets are falling apart, which is very nice to see.

SPEAKER_04: 43:08

They lost um Peter Alonzo.

SPEAKER_05: 43:10

Pete Alonzo, he went to the Orioles and got a bunch of money. And it's like, you know what's funny is that I know that um my Juan Soto has to be pissed. He's highly paid, but when it comes to him trying to be, because again, I'm not I'm never gonna sit here and claim he's not a competitive player. He's gonna be sitting on a team all by himself. He's like, hey, I signed here thinking that we were gonna like make a run. And we not only did we not make the playoffs, now all these players are leaving, and I'm sitting here by myself. It's like the Will meme. It's like the Will Smith meme in Fresh Prince. He's sitting there by himself in an empty room. It's like, what am I doing? You could have just stayed with the Yankees. He's highly paid. Again, he won't be as highly paid if he would have stayed with the Yankees, but fucking, what was it, five million dollars less? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 43:53

Something fucking stupid. It was we were just in the world series. What the fuck is wrong with you?

SPEAKER_05: 44:00

Hey, he wanted he wanted as much money as humanly possible.

SPEAKER_04: 44:04

And here's the other thing. You were kind of dog shit most of the year.

SPEAKER_05: 44:08

He was great in that world series.

SPEAKER_04: 44:10

No, no, no, no. He was dog shit for the Mets.

SPEAKER_05: 44:12

Oh, for the Mets, yes.

SPEAKER_04: 44:14

You were bad for most of the year.

SPEAKER_05: 44:15

Yeah, he was.

SPEAKER_04: 44:18

Especially early on. You fucking did. Do they share a stadium? No. No. This motherfucker just moved from what like what? The Bronx to fucking Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_05: 44:29

I don't know where the Mets. Let me check that. Hold on.

SPEAKER_04: 44:34

Did the Yankees play in Manhattan?

SPEAKER_05: 44:36

No, they're in the Bronx. There's a lot more room to have a stadium.

SPEAKER_04: 44:44

I don't even know what it's about either.

SPEAKER_05: 44:45

Um Mets are in Queens.

SPEAKER_04: 44:50

You just move to a different borough. You're not even far apart.

SPEAKER_05: 44:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 44:56

You can come knock at our door. We'll trade for you.

SPEAKER_05: 44:59

I don't think so. Um actually maybe. I don't think hitting I don't think we need that again. I think it's more we need more and like rotational like depth. Like we have honestly, if um we we're gonna get um Cole back, and if uh Schlit Schlitler actually becomes a real dude, if he like can make that consistent, I think our starting rotation will be great. It will be our secondary and our uh um relievers relievers. That's what we need a lot more. What it's always been exactly. And yeah, the Yankees Stadium is in the Bronx. So yeah, but it's just you know, while uh again, I get to laugh at Juan Soto a little bit. It's like, hey, you took that extra money, hope it's worth it. Again, it probably is. He probably gets to sit on a whole big nice pile of cash, but when it comes to playing competitive baseball, the Mets are not gonna be doing that for a little while now. So good on good on them. Good to have fun. The Mets are we always met.

SPEAKER_04: 45:58

Because what is just him and Lindore?

SPEAKER_05: 46:01

Yeah. They ain't got much else. It's it's crazy how it goes. Um NFL stories I want to talk about before we get to the rest of our games. Steelers, uh, TJ Watt had had surgery for a collapsed lung because he was getting a he was having a needling session at the team practice facility on Wednesday and they collapsed his lung. Somebody they hit punctured his lung and he had to get surgery to to fix it all, and that that might take him out for the rest of the season. Because I've I've read somebody on a Twitter account that they like they had had some guy that had that same injury and said that you have to have a tube in your in like in your chest for like the first couple weeks. Like he may be gone for the rest of the year. And I'm like, you know what? It may not be the worst thing because we weren't gonna win anyway. So like let TJ Watt go ahead and get healthy, especially if the people on the f fucking medical staff were fucking around and punctured the dude's lung.

SPEAKER_00: 46:57

I'm leaving the fucking Steelers.

SPEAKER_05: 46:58

He's not gonna leave.

SPEAKER_00: 46:59

Fuck you. You punched y'all could have killed me.

SPEAKER_05: 47:02

That could have killed him, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 47:04

I want whoever did that prosecuted.

SPEAKER_05: 47:06

Oh yeah, he's fired. Fired, never to be working again in a NFL capacity. That's gonna be guaranteed. But it can't happen. It's it's one of that you can't happen. It just can't.

SPEAKER_03: 47:18

He's your star.

SPEAKER_05: 47:19

Yeah, no doubt. Even if it isn't a star, like the fact that I'm just coming in for a needling session, I'm gonna get my lung punctured. Like it wasn't like one of those things like they were trying to do something specifically to your lungs. It was they were just fucking around and just went a little too far. It's insane. So that was a very scary situation for a little bit, but he is he is good, he's stable, had the surgery, he's all good, he'll be ready to go at some point, but it probably won't be this year. So if that's it on TJ Watt, hopefully he'll be able to come back nice and healthy for next year. Hopefully we'll put a team around him that can really like make work make good on his probably not, but again, I'm just I'm gonna hope against hope. Um Bengals wide receiver, T. Higgins, is gonna be out with concussion against the Ravens. I think you said it when we were talking about the game on the last pod. Like he probably should not have been back out there after his initial.

SPEAKER_04: 48:10

It was the one where he went up and you saw his head go boom.

SPEAKER_05: 48:14

And then after that he didn't look right for the rest of the game.

SPEAKER_04: 48:17

He he he got better, but like the net his next like three catches, he just looked dazed.

SPEAKER_05: 48:22

Yeah, he just didn't look right at all.

SPEAKER_04: 48:24

Like he looked like everything was kind of hitting him at a different speed than everybody else. Right. They took him in a concussion protocol, they probably went, You're good. You're good. The fuck's back out there.

SPEAKER_05: 48:34

But apparently he has he's back in the protocol again, so he'll be out for this week against the Ravens. You have to play them again. You only you saw them two weeks ago, and now you're playing the Ravens again, so without him, that may make the job a little bit harder.

SPEAKER_04: 48:45

No, Lamar's dog shit.

SPEAKER_05: 48:47

Lamar is has been dog shit, and he's a missing practice. He'd be missing like one day of practice every single week, and he's in his worst slump of his career. We'll get to that game when we talk about it.

SPEAKER_04: 48:56

But I saw that on Twitter this morning when I was I was kind of stuck in the Edward Diaz shit for a little while, and it was kind of making me depressed. And that was right after the Joe Burrow shit, and I was like, damn, my day is going downhill. Then I was started reading about that, and I was like, damn, who hits a slump and he's like, I'm just gonna skip a practice one day a week.

SPEAKER_05: 49:14

Apparently they're saying injuries, but like every time they ask Harbaugh, he's like, Oh, we trust Lamar. He says he needs a day off, and I'm like, Y'all need to get together and get your story straight because it makes it look like it's like kind of like the Kawhi situation. Yes. When he was with the Spurs and he was like saying, I'm hurt, and then the Spurs are like, No, we ain't. This is this is there, but it's like if you all would have just gotten together and figured this stuff out, it would just be a lot better look. It doesn't look good when he's missing all these practices, having his worst slump of his career.

SPEAKER_04: 49:40

Y'all suck.

SPEAKER_05: 49:40

And y'all are sucking ass. And y'all are hoping, here's the thing with the Ravens, right? I think the Ravens are not good, right? I think their defense is really bad. I think their offense is like really, by comparison to what they've been in years past, their offense has been the lowest it's been, right? But I still think they were a when it's time to sack up and like play a big game, they're competitive. I believe in the Ravens a lot more than I believe the Steelers at this point, right? Or the or the Bengals or anybody because I just think overall they just have talented dudes that can go out there and put a really good effort together when they put everything together. I agree. The fact that they're hoping for the Steelers to fall on their faces for the rest of the season for them to make the playoffs is an absolute travesty. And again, the Steelers probably will, and I'm hoping for it because I'll get a better draft pick.

SPEAKER_04: 50:20

Okay, you know what makes me even more sad? The fact that both of you are playing like ass, and the Bengals have a still have a shot at the playoffs.

SPEAKER_05: 50:27

They had to play like ass off the other day, and the Steelers managed to win, and I'm like, I really don't want them to win. Like again, I'm in the back of my brain, because in the front of it, I was watching the game, I was happy they were winning, and I was seeing them make big plays. We have too many pass rushers, man. I don't think it really changes anything.

SPEAKER_04: 50:44

Yeah, but those pass rushers aren't TJ Watt.

SPEAKER_05: 50:47

But if they as long as they give all the snaps to um, why am I forgetting his name now? Oh no. Herbig. They give all the snaps to Herbig, he makes all he makes crazy stuff happen when he plays very little. Imagine what happens when he's actually playing all the snaps he probably could be playing.

SPEAKER_04: 51:03

I agree. Real quick, he's one of those motherfuckers, I'm like, if y'all ever not sign him a free agency, I hope to god the Bengals go get him. Because he has no stats and you could probably lowball him. Yeah, you're not right for this nigga to go out there and get end up with like 17.

SPEAKER_05: 51:16

They're gonna pay him because I think they're probably gonna get rid of how Alex Icemet at some point. Because he's he's been hurt all the time. Again, he's it's injury prone. Fuck it. He's always injured.

SPEAKER_04: 51:24

Sounds cheap to me.

SPEAKER_05: 51:26

But yeah, if you just let Alex ISmith walk and then just give give Herbig his money, I think that'll be more than enough.

SPEAKER_04: 51:33

Is it is okay. I don't know how to explain this. Joe Burrow's on the field, but I'm looking towards the draft in free agency. Yeah. Like I like it's the weirdest thing in the world, and I don't know why I'm looking towards it. We're not gonna spend any fucking money. Like I like I'm looking ahead, yeah, and there's nothing there.

SPEAKER_05: 51:51

At least for this, are you talking about just the future in general?

SPEAKER_04: 51:54

There's nothing there.

SPEAKER_05: 51:55

I think you're I think you're in a similar mindset to what Joe Burrow is right now, because did you okay? So this is where we talk about the press conference that he had that may put everybody into a frenzy because everybody's like, is he actually gonna retire sooner rather than later? Yes. And he's 26, 27 years old, and he's already talking about not being happy. And he's always been one of those guys that like plays with a like a joy.

SPEAKER_04: 52:17

Joe Burrow's 28, 29.

SPEAKER_05: 52:19

He ain't that old. Because is he is he that old?

SPEAKER_04: 52:22

How old is Lamar?

SPEAKER_05: 52:23

Lamar is young in comparison to everybody else.

SPEAKER_04: 52:26

Lamar's 29.

SPEAKER_05: 52:27

Lamar's not 29. How old? Because Mahomes is 30.

SPEAKER_03: 52:30

Look it up.

SPEAKER_05: 52:31

Um Joe Burrow age. He's 20. Oh, he has 29. So Lamar must be like 27. Lamar's 29. Lamar Jackson, age.

SPEAKER_04: 52:45

He's 28. Okay, cool. He's two months younger than Joe Burrow. So when's his birthday?

SPEAKER_05: 52:50

Um Lamar Jan 7, January 7, 1997.

SPEAKER_04: 52:54

That nigga's 29.

SPEAKER_05: 52:57

He'll be 29 in two months. Yes. Sorry in a month.

SPEAKER_04: 53:00

They're not young. None of them are young.

SPEAKER_05: 53:02

So that means that means Burrow. I mean that means Mahomes must be like 30, 31 at this point.

SPEAKER_04: 53:10

He's probably 31.

SPEAKER_05: 53:12

Patrick Mahomes' age, he's 30.

SPEAKER_04: 53:15

And then Josh Allen's probably.

SPEAKER_05: 53:17

And he'll be 31 in September of next year. He was born in 95.

SPEAKER_04: 53:21

So Josh Allen's also probably like 29, 30.

SPEAKER_05: 53:24

Josh Allen's that old too. I think him and Burrow are the same age. Josh Allen is 29. That's what I said. Well, there was like it was almost a year between him and him and uh Mahomes.

SPEAKER_04: 53:41

That means J. Herbert was like 28, 27.

SPEAKER_05: 53:45

We're just gonna go through them all.

SPEAKER_04: 53:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 53:52

Yeah, he had to play, he's 27.

SPEAKER_04: 53:55

Okay, yeah, I was good.

unknown: 53:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 53:56

No, you're not wrong. He played he played four years at Oregon. So yeah, he didn't come out, he did not come out really. What? What?

SPEAKER_04: 54:10

Yeah, that math don't math.

SPEAKER_05: 54:11

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_04: 54:13

He came out at twenty-one. Maybe he's been in the league for six years.

SPEAKER_05: 54:22

Herbert. Play for Oregon. He played four seasons at Oregon. 2016 through 2019.

SPEAKER_04: 54:37

Did he come out a year early then?

SPEAKER_05: 54:39

No, he was there from 2016 to 2019. Four years.

SPEAKER_04: 54:44

No, a year out early from high school.

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Potentially.

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That that that is a big should be 28 if he came out of the city.

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Yeah, if math is math. Or it was like maybe it's like the Or he has a funny birthday. Funny birthday, and yes, for sure.

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I got what you're saying. I get it. That's why I was confused. But okay.

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But Burrow. Talking about being unhappy.

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He's had three major injuries already.

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He has.

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Again, I I don't since the Super Bowl, since the not the year of the Super Bowl, the year after that, we have done nothing since. We've missed the playoffs.

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I will say he did start his again, he started off his whole career. Hit the last year at LSU, have putting up one of the best seasons of all time at the quarterback position. Then you come into the NFL, you make your Super Bowl in year two.

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You're putting up all these crazy stats and championship in year three, and then you get what we didn't make the playoffs year after. He got hurt. No, yeah, you're right. Yeah. We didn't make the playoffs year after that. He got hurt. Yeah. We didn't make the playoffs year after that.

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He start off so hot and then tail off so quick, and it's because of injuries. Lose it. And because of like team not being managed.

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Yeah. Now, the team is not putting a full team together.

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True. Can you put a little bit of that blame on Burrow's hands? Yes. Because he wanted the sure thing and having T. Higgins rather than taking a chance.

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I can also say he didn't take a team-friendly deal like Mahomes.

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He did not. He did not. He wanted all of this cash. He wanted all of this cash.

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But again, this team also has shown that.

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Oh no, there was no reason for him to, because like if you give them that extra money, can you trust them to make the right decision?

SPEAKER_04: 56:25

That you don't like paying your players. Right. None of the stars after that Super Bowl run were paid.

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Right, yeah.

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We let every defensive piece leave.

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Yeah, no question. No, you're not wrong.

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And then you don't really put an O-line around. You've put no effort into that.

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They've spent some money on an O-line. Again, that's made bad decisions, but you can't say they haven't put money into the O-line. Orlando, Orlando Brown. They didn't they pay the center to come over and play for you guys? It wasn't he wasn't good, but they paid him.

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Let the sack that toward Joe Burrows, I see it.

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True. They haven't made good decisions, but it did okay.

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But here's the thing. He wasn't even the best center on the fucking market.

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No, for sure.

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He was like the eighth. Yeah. He was cheap. That's the thing. Y'all niggas ain't really trying to put an O-line around me.

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Right.

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Y'all are saying you're trying and throwing$2 million at the cheapest dude.

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They made one good draft pick in your right tackle. In Mims. In Mims, but other than that.

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I know for they're gonna try to put movies as a left tackle. That's not a fucking left tackle.

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Yeah, Orlando Brown's not looking great this year. He's been he's been looking forward to the biggest.

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But he left a sat through that got borrowed turf tub.

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Yeah. Yeah, true.

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You drafted the Billy Price out of OSU. He was a great OSU center.

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He came out early. He should have stayed a fourth year.

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He should have, because he was dog shit in the NFL. Not Billy Price. Nope, Billy Price.

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Billy Price played four years. He played four years. He did not come out. I'm thinking about a different center. He played four years at Ohio State.

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He was a great OSU center. He was dog shit in the NFL.

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No doubt. Yeah.

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And then we drafted the left guard, Jonah Williams, also from Ohio State. He was dog shit.

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They used a late draft pick on him, though. It wasn't like he was like a top a third-round draft pick. They picked him like the fifth, sixth round.

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Don't be my phone, brother. This nigga was a first-round pick.

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Jonah Williams is not a first-round pick. No, he was not.

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Okay. I'll figure it out.

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Uh when he did. The Bengals. Draft. Jonah Williams. They drafted him.

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First round, 11th overall, you bitch!

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He wasn't from Ohio State, by the way.

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Alabama. Sorry.

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About to say he didn't draft an Ohio State Ohio State lineman in the first round.

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But again, he was dog shit.

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That's true.

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I agree. He was dog shit. Yeah. And again, they're not they're trying. Right. But you guys draft like hot ass.

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Yeah, for sure. And again, when you pay when you pay a quarterback like Joe Burrow the money you're paying him, and then you have to pay Chase at some point, and then you make the decision on T. I think I think that I put on Joe Burrow.

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I agree. Because again, you can't can you be okay with letting T go and getting a better O line.

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Put the put the draft put the tender on him, put the franchise tag on him, and send him somewhere else and then get a couple draft bits.

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And then like the mishandling of Trey Hendrickson of we need him. It shows. Either pay him and keep him or trade him. Or tag him and trade him. When you when they paid T, I was like, all right, cool. You're gonna tag him and trade him.

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Yeah.

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And they trade deadline's coming up. Why is he still here?

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Right.

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Now he's not even playing.

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Exactly.

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You guys spent twenty four million dollars.

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They're trying, they're like, they're not even doing it the smart way if they're gonna try to be cheap.

SPEAKER_04: 59:46

You're not, and that's the problem. During if we didn't pay T, you could have got a couple of alignment and then a Chase Brown is fine.

SPEAKER_05: 59:53

Or added defensive players to your team. Also also not fine.

SPEAKER_04: 59:56

You guys want to focus on the offense cool, but focus on it smartly. Yeah. Mims is cool for the next f he's cool for like what two or two more years before you have to pay him a first round pick.

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Oh yeah, because he gets a fifth round. He's cool for another three years. Yeah, so you get the fifth round, fifth fifth, fifth year option.

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Orlando Brown is still paid for the time being cool. You go get guard. We need a guard so fucking bad.

SPEAKER_05: 1:00:15

Yeah, interior office line's terrible.

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You go pay two decent ones, and then hey, go grab another running back. Pull some pressure off of Joe Bro. Chase Brown is fine. He is fine for what he is. Another guy would be helpful.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Samaj A P Rine is Samaj A P Ryan.

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Again, the fact that he's been getting so much like so much run.

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I don't know. But again, like there's there's other you there you don't you can do more without having to pay just an O line. Yeah getting a Bell Cow running back helps so much if you have a not great offensive line.

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Right.

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Or just a bruiser of a running back.

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Yeah.

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Like a David Montgomery would be a great thing for the Bengals because he's I I'm looking for contact.

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Yeah, no question.

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Because then you can send him at anything. He'll run towards it.

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No question. Again, you still need to put money in the offensive line, but again, alleviate, yeah, for sure.

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Getting a big body running back, like, hey, all you're gonna do is sit back here and block. Can make it to where he's a pretty cheap one, and then you can get two decent guards. Yeah. And then holy shit, how have you guys never drafted a decent fucking center? Centers are so easy to come by. And you can get them late in the draft, so you don't have to draft them high. That's the other problem. No, instead, you guys drafted two.

SPEAKER_05: 1:01:35

They did get Seth, um, Seth McLaughlin from Ohio State. He's been good. But he's been hurt. But he's been hurt, and he has no. They didn't even draft him. He was a free he was an undrafted free agent. He was, but again, I'm okay with that. But it was him coming off an injury, which is why he wasn't drafted. And that's why he's not playing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:01:49

Right.

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I'm okay with that. He should be pretty fucking good. At some point, just give him some seasoning, he'll get there. Why didn't we we didn't pick up a guard at all? No guards. No, you didn't really put you spent the really bad pick on your on your boy, your best defensive endeavor. But like there's more certain picks you could have gone, but you went for the athletic freak, hoping that he can be he can become the guy, and it didn't has not worked out.

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He had no stats.

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Yeah. And now Joe Burrow being unhappy, and he's talking about how he has he wants to be happy in order to play the game of football. And now it's like made everybody freak out because it's like, hey, is he gonna want to retire?

SPEAKER_04: 1:02:28

I'm about to have an Andrew Luck, and I'm about to tweet.

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Or because here's the thing, I don't think it'll be because of injuries. I think Joe Burrow has the mindset to get back from injuries and that not being an issue.

SPEAKER_04: 1:02:36

I don't want to play for the Bengals.

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I think it'll be more about the fact that I don't feel like I have a chance to win and make all this work worth it. Dude, it's the Carson Palmer thing. Carson Palmer got he was done with playing with the Bengals, not being willing to do what they were supposed to do to help him.

SPEAKER_04: 1:02:49

The other problem was is that he was coming up on a contract and then they drafted Andy Dalton. And he was like, no, fuck this.

SPEAKER_05: 1:02:55

It wasn't just that, no, because they because he left, because he retired, he forced his own retirement. He said, either trade me or I'm retiring. And he retired for a year, went to the Raiders, had a little bit of scent there, and then he went to the Cardinals. He played another another decade after retiring. So like he was ready to play more football. He just wasn't willing to do with the Bengals that they're not willing to do what they needed to do around him. And I think that's the same thing Joe Burrow is going through right now. Is like, hey, I get it. I wanted you to sign the two wide receivers, and you did. The one I'll blame him for, T probably should have been gone. He should not have been there. But like, still, because I've always given him credit for he know he he can he has a bird in the hand is better than two in the bush. He had T in his hand. Can I trust you if I let you let T go that you're gonna spend that money wisely in other places to help the team?

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No.

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And I get why Joe Burrow is like, I don't believe that. I'd rather keep what I got, and I know what T is, so I want to keep him around. I totally understand, but that does is blame that goes on his plate. I agree when you start kind of doing the blame pie thing.

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Like that of you guys are I've proven to not make good decisions. I'm not gonna let you make this decision for me.

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Right. No, I get it. Yeah, for sure.

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Again, I just I can feel it in my bones that we got one more year of this. And if we have a year where Lord forbid he gets injured, I do I foresee him going, I want to trade. Yeah. Uh and at that point, wherever he goes, I'm going with him. Uh I'm done. I can't, I can't.

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So here's so here's what I heard, right? Mm-hmm. They brought up two spots that would be prime spots for him to go because not only because the way they do the draft rules with picks you can trade, you can only trade three years ahead. You can't do four or five like the NBA, right? They said because of these two places, Minnesota, because they are literally a quarterback away. They just had a quarterback.

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God, I hope not.

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So let me just give you this scenario. If Minnesota came to the Bengals and said, I will give you three firsts and three seconds for Joe Burrow, do you actually think they would make the move and do it? Joe Burrow would have to literally say, I don't want to be here anymore for them to even have that conversation. But do you would you be happy as a Bengals fan, or would you just literally just follow Joe Burrow? It doesn't matter.

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I'm going to the Vikings. Nothing changed. LSU receiver, Joe Burrow, same day. New colors, same day, same team. Okay.

SPEAKER_05: 1:05:25

So I have to ask you this one thing. This is like this is I'm glad you answered that way. Because the other team that's been talked about is potentially the Rams.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. Think about Matthew Stafford. Absolutely. Absolutely. Without a shadow of a doubt, I will be a Rams fan.

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This is with the caveat that Matthew Stafford goes, wins, potentially wins Super Bowl this year, rides off to the sunset, and retires, but they have shown to be very aggressive before. They have two first-round picks this year. Stop talking. Look at me.

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Abso fucking lutely, they're going to the Super Bowl and they're winning that bitch. Abso fucking lutely. Absolutely. Joe Burr in a Sean McVay system. Oh, that'd be he will become the greatest quarterback that'll ever exist. It'd be disgusting. Abso fucking lutely, I'd go be a Rams.

SPEAKER_05: 1:06:16

That could be very similar with the Vikings, too, because guess what? He'd go from one LSU receiver that he had to a different LSU receiver that he had in some in just a instant connection.

SPEAKER_04: 1:06:25

We're all good. Instant. Nor him and Puka Nakua. Oh, guess what the Rams have? A defense. Yeah. Guess what the Rams can do? Draft well. True. Guess what the Rams have? A decent O-line.

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Yeah. And a great head coach that can put an offense together?

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Great head coach. I'd be less inclined to be a Vikings fan. If the other options were the Rams.

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So he would just follow, she would follow Joe Burrow to wherever he went.

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Carson Palmer was drafted in 03, my nigga. Yeah. We had to wait another 20. We had to wait another 17 years to get a first round pick of a quarterback who was a guaranteed stud.

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Yeah. And they might find a way to fuck that up too.

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Not doing this again. I'm going wherever he's going.

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Okay.

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All right. Guaranteed wherever he's going, I'm going.

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Okay.

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I don't know if I could do the purple for the rent for the Vikings, though. Ooh, he's. But again, you're telling me we're in the NFC.

SPEAKER_05: 1:07:27

True. Yeah, you're not wrong. You're not wrong.

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The best quarterback here day in, day out, is Dak.

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Oh, there was one other thing. This might be like the one spot where that could be very it'd almost be bad for all of everybody in the NFL if this trade happened. Because they brought it up, it was Nick Wright that did it. He was like, what would any Bengals fan or the Bengals organization say to if the Eagles came calling and said, hey, we'll give you Jalen Hurts and a first round pick and something else? He would they the Eagles would destroy the NFL for years to come because not only would he have the great wide receivers, he'd have a great running back. They draft very well. Their defense is insanely talented.

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I think I might cry. Literally, I might ball my eyes out. We're so good. Like literally.

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The whole NFL.

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AJ Brock will never have to complain again.

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No, him and Devontae would be like literally, they'd be in heaven. Um they wouldn't have to worry about a shit. That's crazy.

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I never thought that they don't trade anything away because they can draft. Right. That'd be crazy. They come to us, hey, we'll give you Jalen Hurts. We're probably the Bengals gonna be like, hey, we still need two first round picks. Yeah, they're probably gonna be able to do that. Jalen Hurts is mid for sure.

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Yeah.

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And like three seconds. So we're probably Jalen Hurts, two first, three seconds.

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Again, the Eagles are very, very aggressive.

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Who needs a future when we're going to the Super Bowl?

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Multiple Super Bowls.

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Like, what the fuck he has probably one of the best alliance in the NFL.

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Yep.

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The one of the top three defenses when they're on their game. Yeah. In the NFL.

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Yeah.

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A stellar wide receiver do a.

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Yeah. Great tight end. Dallas Goddard is awesome.

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A great running back.

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Yeah.

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And a team who can draft.

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Easily. The best drafting team in all the NFL. He's like, no question asked.

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I'll go beat an Eagles fan.

SPEAKER_05: 1:09:23

I'm glad you had the answer you did, because I thought I thought he'd be like on the other side of the like, oh, I'd be heartbroken.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:28

I can't. I can't do this anymore.

SPEAKER_05: 1:09:30

Well, I think he'd be more heartbroken if he just retired altogether and just didn't want to go anywhere. He went did the Andrew Luck thing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:36

If he was okay, if it see, I don't think he could do the Andrew Luck thing. Because I think Andrew Luck had the idea of, hey, there's more outside of football.

SPEAKER_05: 1:09:43

True.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:45

Joe Bur football.

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No, he is a football guy. Again, he's a nerd. He has other interests. But he does see football.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:52

What the fuck? What other interests does this nigga have? Oh no, Joe Burrow? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:09:56

They were talking about him in like anime and stuff. Like he likes, like, he's legit into other things, like other things.

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That's great.

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Like, obviously the Batmobile, like, he was really into that. Like, so he has other interests. That's great. But nothing that football is the number one thing for him. And he he's made that very clear throughout his career. He's too competitive to not die. Right.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:19

Yeah. But I also believe he'd be like, alright, you won't trade me. I'll retire for a year.

SPEAKER_05: 1:10:23

Yeah. True. I agree. If he was going to the Eagles. We the whole NFL would be fucked. It'd literally be like the Kansas City Chiefs on steroids.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:34

Rook, we'd be in like in four to five years, we'd make anything. Joe Burrow, the GOAT. Literally. There's no one to stop them.

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Nobody. Nobody. Nobody.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:45

You have a quarterback who's going to make every play. Saquon's about to be the game.

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If that happened, freaking Patrick Mahomes will have a freaking mental breakdown. He'd have a mental breakdown.

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:56

What the fuck? Who the fuck let this happen? This is fucking bullshit. Right. He'd be tweaking.

SPEAKER_05: 1:11:03

I got blown away then when they had Jalen Hurts. Now they got Joe Burrow.

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Yeah, yeah. There'd be a video. It'd be a crash out audio call. Crash out.

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Like it's one of the police calls him freaking the fuck out. You can just hear him throwing shit in his house. No doubt.

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Like crash out of all crash outs. I'm telling you. And then he's in the NFC. There's no one there. Right. So there is no like, oh, if I just get oh, if I just don't have to see him in the AFC, in the AFC, I just get to the Super Bowl and not have to deal with him. No. It is a foregone conclusion.

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I dude, he would make AJ Brown the greatest receiver to have ever fucking lived.

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The happiest receiver to ever play.

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And then Saquon will have 148 rushing touchdowns because there's no one stealing from him.

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Exactly. Exactly.

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Now you have a team that's a deep ball.

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Yeah.

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Oh fuck.

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No doubt.

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Oh, it's gone. Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_05: 1:11:55

Like, I'm just like, he would, he would destroy the league. No matter where he went, honestly, I think he would destroy the league. No matter where he goes, it would just be a better situation.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:03

Yeah. I can't. It's better than Bengals.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:05

I do feel like it would be hard for him to leave Jamar Chase.

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Not if it's Justin Jefferson.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:10

True. I I feel like he'd he'd feel like hurt that he did that to Jamar Chase. Because again, the Bengals would be one of those petty teams. They wouldn't just trade everybody. They're like, oh, we gotta keep one big piece to keep people coming. And they'd keep Jamar Chase. And Jamar Chase would become AJ Brown so fast, and he'll be ready to crash out at all times.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:28

You see him with fucking Flacco and the defense was ass. He his media training was on the fucking line of he was about to lose it. Yeah. Because the defense was that ass and he played that well.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:39

Yeah.

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Because I'm be honest. Day in and day out, I believe Jamar Chase is the best receiver in the NFL. With almost any quarterback he's played with, he's been stellar. Jake Browning was just that ass.

SPEAKER_05: 1:12:51

Yeah, no, I agree.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:53

We can just say this right now, Jake Browning was that fucking bad to where the first game of Joe Flacco, Jamar Chase had like 180 yards and three touchdowns.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:00

Because Joe Flacco just said, hey, I'm just gonna keep throwing it at that guy and he'll figure it out. And that's it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:04

Throw it to one and he'll figure it out. Jake Browning was like, which color is right again?

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:09

He regressed the offense because of how bad he was.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:11

Yes.

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In a way that again, it's not like the offense was all that complicated to begin with.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:16

No, throw that bitch up to Uno or Tico.

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That's it.

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Figure it the fuck out from there. And if you have to, there's a tight end out there somewhere.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:25

Yeah, no question. Or Yoshivash is fight is making an appearance.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:29

Out there open because there's no one out there covering him because he had a linebacker.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:32

Because nobody ever thought, like, oh, that guy can actually play football and he can make an impact on this team. Nobody ever would have thought. Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:40

Sometimes he is.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:41

But yeah, I'm glad we had that conversation because, like, just listen to that clip. It was it was disappointing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:47

For you as a Steelers fan, your team is ran as a well-organization. They've made their mistakes over the last couple years. Oh, plenty of them. But it's a team I believe that in the next five to ten years they will come back.

SPEAKER_05: 1:13:58

I I don't I'll never I never question my team's want to go out and win.

SPEAKER_04: 1:14:03

That's the thing. I believe that if they get a decent quarterback, they will be a contender because they know how to draft. They know how to build a team. The Patriots, they know what they're doing.

SPEAKER_05: 1:14:16

And they're well-intentioned. They want to go out there and win. They're not just trying to make money. You can't trust the Bengals' intention.

SPEAKER_04: 1:14:24

The Bengals won't do that.

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Right.

SPEAKER_05: 1:14:27

They're gonna fuck around no matter who they have.

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We're gonna try to do the most with as little as possible.

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Joe Burrow strong arm them a little bit into spending more money, but still they've the Trey Hendrickson thing, they took away from something.

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And I said that I can't, dude. I'm not going to spend my life like a fucking Raiders fan. I refuse. I refuse. I I refuse. The the Lions got the memo. Hey, we hired a good coach, got good coordinators, we're gonna pay all these players. Yeah. They just stafford left. Hey, we're to figure this shit the fuck out. And they figured this fuck out. Yeah. Real quick, we have been 14 and 2 and got blown out first round of the playoffs. Yeah. Not one year. That was back to back. We did it twice against the Tila Steelers teams. We didn't beat it twice. Yeah. Um, we were the best team in the NFL that year. Blown out. Yeah.

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Um, so y'all you guys shot yourself in the foot so many times and lost that one. Yeah.

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So you dude, Vontez perfect. Yeah. All time. You were texting me about it and I was like, I want this nigga to shut the fuck up.

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All time. Yeah.

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Um so I just history will repeat itself. We have let fucking Hall of Famers have played. Geno Atkins was a Hall of Famer.

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Yeah.

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Geno Atkins was like a staple for what Aaron Donald was later down.

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Yeah, no doubt.

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Geno Atkins was a small defensive tackle. Yes, he was. Dog.

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He was. He was awesome.

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Not a first bat Hall of Famer. No. But he's getting in.

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No, for sure. He'll get in at some point. No question.

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Like, we've let so many guys.

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AJ Green. You let him waste his career with y'all.

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Carlos Dunlat. Fucking Andy Dalton wasn't awful.

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No, Andy Dalton was. No, he wasn't. He was actually a pretty good quarterback for us. I agree.

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Well enough to where if we had a decent enough defense, we probably would have got it to a Super Bowl. Or a coach who knew how to coach in the playoffs.

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No doubt. No doubt.

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But like I just, I'm not doing this again.

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Again, I that is a very good decision by you to be like, hey, I'm not gonna say here if the Cardinals have draft a good enough quarterback, I'll be a fucking Cardinals fan.

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Because then no one has a question to me of why are you a Cardinals fan? I don't know. Uh I thought Kurt I thought Larry Fitzgerald was cool when I was a kid. Simple as that. No doubt. Simple as that. Yeah, I agree. But like I I can't do this again. I'm I I can't. I can't. I am at my wit's end of I've been a Bengals fan my whole life. I'm probably never gonna leave Michigan State because I love Michigan State. I don't know why. But I love the Bengals because I loved AJ Green.

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Yeah, no doubt.

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And now I love the Bengals because I love Joe Burrow. And now if there's no Joe Burrow, how much do I really love the fucking Bengals?

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Right. You can you're an adult now. You can make some real decisions and be like, hey, do I really love the Bengals that much?

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In my heart, my heart is gonna be screaming yes. My brain's gonna be like, we've been here before.

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No. No reason to put yourself through that type of t type of pain and torture.

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It's heartbreak. I know what's gonna happen again.

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Especially with no proof of concept that they can figure out. Right, and get maybe get bought by a billionaire and like it'll be.

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Because he's gonna none none of his kids are very interested in football. None of them even work in the Bengals organization.

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Yeah, no, I am.

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So if he dies, because he's like 87. He's older. He don't have long. He ain't Jerry Jones rich.

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Yeah, yeah, but it's rich enough.

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True, but it's not his money.

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No, you're not wrong.

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It was his daddy's money. So he not rich rich. So you can't keep yourself alive like Jerry Jones can. Yeah, for sure. So I'm hoping I see on Twitter, uh, I don't know.

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I think his name's Paul, isn't it Paul Brown?

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I think it's Paul Brown Jr.

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Whatever it is, whatever it is. It's Paul Brown something.

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I see he's in like hospice or some shit. Take him off. Take him off that.

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Hey, y'all want to make some money? Go ahead and sell them to somebody. Jeff Bezos? Somebody? Somebody willn't be able to do that.

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If Joe Burrow's still playing for my team and we're owned by Jeff Bezos, oh. We'll be the Eagles. Yeah. Fuck you mean.

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He'll spend the money to get the best people to run that organization, no doubt.

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Is there a salary cap in the NFL? Yeah, of course. Let Jeff Bezos. Because I know he wants to own an NFL team. Let it be the Bengals?

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It used to not be the case. They didn't used to have a salary cap. You know who said they should have a salary cap? Jerry fucking Jones. He was the one that brought up the idea, like, hey, we should have a salary cap. Yeah. It's hilarious, right? Funny how that went. I think it was like in the 80s, I think.

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Oh. So he fucked himself because he was winning back then. Right. And he was talking to his shit.

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But again, he's more, he's one of those guys that's more than happy to give you everything else to get outside the salary cap. Like he don't care, but he just wants to have that.

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I know, but this motherfucker was talking his shit in the 80s. Like, we should have a salary cap. Make it fair for everybody. Not your ass. Yeah, no doubt. Bitch. I fucking hate you. You're trying to lowball Michael Parsons. And now he's on a basically the same thing. No.

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It's basically the Cowboys 2.0. The Packers, the Packers are peaking right now. I'm not gonna lie. They're playing a lot better football. Alright.

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Yeah, but it's it's it's the Cowboys 2.0. They're gonna make it to the second round and get bounced.

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I don't know.

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I just You're right. Every NFC team is mid.

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Other than Seattle and the Rams, everybody else, I'm like, oh, okay. If you're not those, if you're not those two teams, I don't believe in you for shit. I don't think one of Seattle will be fired, too.

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You just need to just be on an organization that's trying. There's 31 teams in the NFL. There's 30 32. There's 29 teams in the NFL that would be constantly trying. Oh, okay.

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That's what you're trying to count how many try. Yeah. No, I got you.

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There's twenty-eight teams in the NFL that'd be constantly. There's twenty-seven teams in the NFL that'd be constantly trying to win.

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I I guess the no's are Cincinnati.

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Yeah.

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The Browns. Yeah. Funny how two of them are in the AFC North. Um the Raiders? Yeah. The Raiders are trying. They're just stupid.

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There's 26 teams in the NFL that are constantly dumb.

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The Raiders are trying. They're just stupid. I think I'm willing to say that they're trying. They're just dumb. This is trying? This is trying? They got Tom Brady on their on their.

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Our first-round running back is ass. And this is trying?

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No.

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If this is trying, then they're mentally deficient.

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They are. That's what I'm saying. I think they are.

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And I think at some point that has to go against them. Okay. All right.

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So that's three. Who are the other ones? Saints. The Saints are trying. They tried too. Again, the Saints try too hard and then fuck themselves for years down the line because they how hard they tried.

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If this is trying, this is inefficient. If y'all have credit for the Saints.

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He played longer than Philip Rivers did, and he's fucking back.

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It's crazy. Real quick, their quarterbacks, and I quote, have been Derek Carr. Yep. Uh what's the one motherfucker that does everything? Tight end, running back, kick returner, punt returner, DB.

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They never had him as their actual quarterback, though.

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He was a quarterback for a couple games when Derek Carr would get hurt.

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Yes. Tyler Shuck. No, that's the guy they drafted.

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And is currently their quarterback. Yeah, but Spencer Rattler.

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Spencer Rattler, yeah.

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Taylor Heineke, because he was the backup.

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Yeah. Those have been your quarterbacks since Drew Brees retired? Heck, they were hoping to be bad enough to go get Arch this year, but again, he's not.

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It's not happening. You're fucking yourself. He's staying for another year, I think, with Texas, if I had to be honest. So the Saints, the Falcons, real quick, this is this is blasphemous. You guys are the stupidest fucking organization I have ever seen in my life. How is everybody on your on your all offense a first round pick and you guys still suck? Yeah, I agree. I agree. And then you paid you gave Kirk Cousins$233 million in a no-trade clause, you dumbasses.

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And then you treat and then you went and drafted a quarterback in the first round without his without his without telling him.

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Browns, Bengals, Panthers, Raiders, Falcons, Saints.

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Okay.

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Cardinals.

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Stupid decisions, but I do like their coach now, though, a little bit more, I guess, but still.

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You guys had to have known Kyler Murray is not your guy for at least three years now.

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Yeah. Heck, they tried with all the clauses to make sure that he couldn't play Call of Duty as much.

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Fucking Dolphins. What the fuck are you doing? Everyone told you Tua wasn't the guy, and you still drafted him.

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No, no. I will say they tried like hell to trade up to get Joe Burrow. And the Bengals said no. They tried like hell. They wanted Joe Burrow so bad.

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Real quick, you still took Tua. Justin Herbert. What the fuck told me to do that? Real, I remember this. You I remember you saying this. You went. They took two. He was like, yeah, Justin Herbert may be unproven, but at least he has all the physicals.

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Yeah.

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And uh guess what?

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Justin Herbert goes out there.

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And two was coming off the hip injury with Alabama, too.

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Justin Herbert goes out there, such a new rookie fucking uh passing record, and throws a shit down to touch.

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They didn't even expect him to start that year. And he did. It was because of a punctured lung by Tuck for Tyrod Taylor that he ended up coming out in game one.

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And he was a dog.

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And he was a dog.

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Yeah, no. The Dolphins. That's eight. I can find two more. I can't remember all the teams in the NFL. Let me think.

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No more in the NFC. East. Maybe you could put Washington.

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The Jets. There we go. That's nine.

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Okay, yeah. The Jets. I'll have them in there.

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No, no, no. Washington have done great. Your quarterback just injured. You got a lot of injuries.

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They had a bad owner for there again. They were the Bengals to a certain extent degree.

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No. And then they forced the owner to finally. There's a difference. Paul Brown Jr. is not a monster. He's just a shitty owner.

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And cheap.

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Their owner was a monster and cheap. There's a difference. Okay. Let's get that straight. He was a fucking monster.

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You're right on that. I'll give you that.

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But I I wouldn't add them because new owner. They're actually in a good position. And they're trying. Yeah. They threw their head coach, it was a little fucking retarded. Like, yeah, I'll throw Jaden Daniels back out there. They should not have thrown him back out there.

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That was that was a big mistake.

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Well, to the Giants. I think they're they're actually getting better. I think they're trying hard. They're trying, yeah. Yeah, and I think it's working for them.

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There's one more.

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Um, NFC South, I would say you already added all them. NFC North. I've always contended that Jerry Jones wants to win as long as he can be the main guy. If he actually had to step back and actually be a good owner for his team to go win, he would never do it.

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Here's the problem. The Cowboys winning, Jerry Jones ego.

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Yeah.

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And this will always be a problem.

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No doubt. I totally agree.

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That's why Micah Parsons is on the Packers.

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Yeah, no, I agree.

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That's 10.

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There we go. You got to 10. Ten teams that aren't trying in the NFL. No, for sure. We got there.

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Or and just somebody else should own you.

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Yeah, no, I agree. Because either dumb owners or, you know, they're just just, yeah, just dumb owners. Let's be honest here. We like to think that millionaires and billionaires are smart people. But it's not always the case.

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Sometimes they're just total idiots born into wealth.

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Or born into wealth, or they made one trick, the one decision that like made them supremely lucky and they got the wealth that they had. But when it comes to actually like operating and running a football team or a business, they may not be the best at it. So yeah, no, I totally agree. Plenty of plenty of owners in the FL who don't deserve to have a lot of people. Their owner is he tried. He trying. Again. Was it Shad Khan, I believe, is his name.

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No one could have said that Trevor Lawrence was kind of gonna be mid.

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Coming out of college, there's no like they were calling him the next Andrew Luck. Like there was nothing, there's nothing they could have told you that he was gonna be as mid as he has been in the NFL so far. The Titans. Oh yeah, they did fuck up the whole Vrabel situation. Add the Titans on the card.

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You also let can he remember this dude's fucking name, who was their quarterback for the longest fucking time that they converted from a receiver to a quarterback when he got to the college.

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Oh, you're talking about um um uh Tannehill.

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Yeah, you let Ryan Tannehill be your quarterback for years.

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He did make it, they did make it work. They made an AFC championship game with Ryan Tannehill as their quarterback.

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Yeah, yes.

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It was with Was that young Derrick Henry in the backfield? Yeah, yeah. And it was Mike Vrabel as your head coach. And it was with AJ Brown as your wide receiver.

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And your defense was fucking elite.

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And your defense was awesome, yeah, for sure.

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So, and then you fire Vrabel.

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You no, you trade AJ Brown for a wide then for a first-round pick, then you then use it on another different wide receiver that was hot ass. Traylon Burke!

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They drafted Traylon Burke. How the fuck do I know his name? That's crazy. Yeah, it's a pull. That's crazy that he's gonna be on an NFL fucking uh thing one day.

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You know he's that he actually playing on the NFL team right now?

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He's on a team?

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He made a touchdown catch like a couple weeks ago for his.

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He was fast. That's all he was out of college. He was like stupid fast.

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Um but a wide receiver, he was not. Like an all-around wide receiver.

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The best decision you guys have made was signing Calvin Ridley.

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Yeah, and then they fucked around and like didn't have a quarterback out. They went and got, you know, old boy. Uh why am I forgetting his name? The golden boy from Kentucky. Um the freaking, what's his name? Why am I forgetting his name?

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Traylon Burke was a crazy poolie.

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Tennessee Titans QB. It's freaking not Cam Ward. It's the last guy they drafted. Will Levis. Terrible decision.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Everybody on their mama knew he wasn't it, and they drafted him in the second round. Again, they didn't use a first-round pick on him, but they still used a second round pick and thought he was gonna be their guy, and everybody knew he wasn't gonna be.

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He puts mayo in his coffee.

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Mayo in his coffee. That should have taken that should have been it. That might be one of my best moments as a podcast when I brought that up. Like bringing mayo putting mayo in your coffee should have been an instant no on anybody that wants to draft you. Like, that should have been an instant bad decision. How how are you gonna not throw interceptions, but you're gonna put mayo in your coffee? Not gonna fucking happen. Not gonna fucking happen.

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Real quick, I think that podcast did great, by the way. It was awesome. If I remember that podcast had good numbers.

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It was it was wild. It was a wild, very good podcast. Alright. Now that we've gone through all the teams that aren't trying and we've talked about all the new stuff we want to talk about. Let's get to this. Yeah. We're getting close to 12 at that point, too. Once you have the Titans in there.

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No, I let Jacksonville kind of slide.

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You let Jacksonville slide. Yep.

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Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. For now.

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For now. You're on the watch. For now.

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You have everybody's being paid, and you guys are still kind of fucking this up. And one reason why you're kind of not on the list right now is because you guys are probably gonna make playoffs.

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Yeah, they're they're leading the AFC South right now.

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But again, Trevor Lawrence. Houston is charging, though, but Trevor Lawrence is like the most motherfucking up and down. They've been winning these games more to me than football.

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Yeah, I'm not just a football player, and I'm like, again.

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That's not what I want to hear from my clients.

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Not what I want to hear. Not what you want to hear.

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You could be more than a football player off the field.

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And it wasn't just saying, like, oh, I'm putting my all into football, but he's like, no, no, no. It was like more of like a this isn't it. No, this is not all that I'm about. And I'm sitting there like, you can have other hobbies, but football is your the thing that butters your bread. That that's it. That's your main pass that's your main piece. Right. And he just he kind of came in with like the oh, but this isn't it for me. And I'm like, uh, there's a team paying you lots of money for that to be the case. You might want to figure that out. Hasn't figured it out. Never did. On the football field or off the football field. All right. Let's get to the rest. Let's get to our games. Um, when it comes to our records overall picking games, I am 120, 73, and one. Jace is 126, 67, and one. I'm six games ahead. Yeah. Last week I went seven and seven. Jace went eight and six. I'm staying ahead, man. Yeah, no, you're keeping a nice little lead on me. Again, we went, we did like three splits last week. Man, you won two out of three.

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You bet bad. Missed tracks.

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Fuck you. I won a bet yesterday, okay? Oh, it's crazy. I didn't. You didn't win.

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Where's the money you need in my pocket?

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It isn't. I will get you.

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I wouldn't have taken it because I would tell Kyle Pitts and been like, no. Take it as a bit. I know. That's what I needed to think about. The other thing, I probably would have taken the rest of the bet and then just cut the Kyle Pitts off. But you would have won. I would have. Not as much money. Yeah. But I would have cut Kyle Pitts off the bet.

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Yeah. For sure. 100%. Again, that's that's the one guy you hold on to when it comes to betting. Like that, that's the thing you hold over my head. And then Kyle Pitts didn't do shit.

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Everybody else had their shit done easily. And then that was the fucking Monday night game. This motherfucker did nothing.

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Nothing. He's done a lot of nothing throughout his NFL career, but he exploded last night, and that was just enough. That's all I needed right last night. Alright, let's get to the rest of the games. We already did the Atlanta, Tampa Bay. We both picked Tampa Bay. So we're 0-1 so far. Um, let's go ahead and get to the rest. Next game, Cleveland going to Chicago. Shador, you're gonna you're gonna believe in Shador and probably gets a shit stomp out of him during this game. I just think the offense for Chicago, they run the football very well. Again, this Cleveland defense is gonna make it very difficult.

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Yeah, I also think that Cleveland has played two shitty teams back to back.

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True, and the rest of their schedule is a lot more difficult.

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Yeah, and Chicago has a stout defense. Their defense ain't great.

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It's stout, but it has a pulse. And that's more than that. Do you know what they're gonna tell old boy um why my friend? Caleb Williams. You know what they're gonna tell him? Just don't turn the football over, we win this football game. That's it. Just don't turn the football over. Because again, Shador had a great game last week against the fucking Titans, but the Titans are awful. What?

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Sorry, I something just clicked in my head. Uh I was watching a key four, cut four video.

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Okay.

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Let me ask you a question.

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Okay. I don't like the space you're getting me right.

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Okay. Can you think Cooper DeGene was a keyboard? Cut for these people. Fucking retarded niggas.

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What was what was the context?

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Keep four, cut four. Cooper Dejean was the first name name.

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So is there two cornerbacks, two wide, like four keep four cornerbacks, cut four cornerbacks?

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Oh, these are all corners.

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Okay. I'm guessing it was a keep. Guess who they cut? Who did they cut? Denzel Ward. Yeah, no. Denzel Ward's lab, boy. Like I said about Cooper DeGene last night. Cooper DeGene had his. After last night, Adriel AJ Terrell had a he had five pass interference calls last night.

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So before that, that's that's fine. He was getting eaten alive.

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This one dude was like, no, we keep Cooper DeGene.

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He's a dog.

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And I'm like, nope. Unless you're guaranteeing me that there's a white receiver on the other side he can attach himself to, I again, Cooper DeGene is a very good slot corner.

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JC Horns, the other one I'm like, you could probably interchange him with a couple other guys.

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Yeah, for sure. I agree. I agree.

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But if Cooper DeGene's the first name, he's cut.

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Yeah, no doubt. No doubt. Again, I I respect him. He is a good player. He is a good slot corner. That's it. He had a great night last week because he played against Vlad McConkie. But that's Ladd McConkey. He's a white boy and he's quick, but not fast. And I feel like they're honestly, I think Vlad McConkie and Cooper DeGin are the same player, playing two different positions. Oh my god. They're like mirror images of each other. Like they look kind of fast because they're both white, and it's like, oh, I didn't expect them to be that quick, that fast, but it's more quick than fast. And they're not physical freaks at all.

SPEAKER_04: 1:35:23

The list was they they kept Cooper DeGene, Patters or Tane, JC Horn, Derek Stingley.

SPEAKER_05: 1:35:29

Oh yeah, Derek Stingley, for sure.

SPEAKER_04: 1:35:31

They cut Sauce Gardner, cool. He was at he's been asked. Trent McDovey, cool. I'm okay with that. Denzel Ward, Chris Gonzalez were two cuts.

SPEAKER_05: 1:35:38

Don't cut those two.

SPEAKER_04: 1:35:40

JC Horn and Cooper DeGene, both cuts.

SPEAKER_05: 1:35:42

Both of those would be cut, and I'd put, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:35:44

JC Horn's the one where you might you'd fucking cut. Fine, okay, fine. Maybe you're just.

SPEAKER_05: 1:35:50

Yeah, no. Those two would be in for sure. No questions asked.

SPEAKER_04: 1:35:54

But this dude argued for Cooper DeGene, and I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_05: 1:35:57

No. Again, he had a really good Super Bowl. That's it. He had an awesome Super Bowl. But like, come on, dude. Like, come on. Come on.

SPEAKER_04: 1:36:05

Sorry. It was just, it, it, I now that I thought about it, it frustrated the fuck out of me.

SPEAKER_05: 1:36:11

Back to business. Chicago, Cleveland. You're taking Chicago, I'm guessing?

SPEAKER_02: 1:36:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_05: 1:36:18

I just think they're going to tell, they're going to tell Caleb Williams, don't turn the football over. Because we're going to be able to run the football and just get quick passing just enough to score enough points to win this football game. Because I just think as good as Shador played last week, I just don't think he's going to be able to put up that type of numbers against a at least a Chicago Bears defense. I'm not saying they're great, but they have a pulse, unlike Tennessee. So I just think Chicago should be able to win that game, especially since they're being at home. Next game, Baltimore at Cincinnati. No T, by the way. No T Higgins. Baltimore, you know, old boy Lamar has been ass as of recently. Their offense has been ass. Their defense hasn't been able to stop anybody at all either. I'm going to take Cincinnati. I just think it's one of those things with I think Burrow making all this noise about all this stuff about is he retired or not. It's like the perfect storm for him to come out and play like an awesome game against the against uh the Baltimore, especially with Cincinnati being at home. It's going to be a raucous environment, and they technically still have a chance of getting into the playoffs. And I just think that Joe Burrow is going to. Again, he played great last week against Buffalo. It was just two bad mistakes that he made that lost from that game. I don't even think if he made a bad mistake like that, that Baltimore even has a defense that can take advantage of it. I just think it's that big of a difference with how bad that Baltimore defense is. So I'm taking Cincinnati.

SPEAKER_03: 1:37:45

I'll take the Blackwoods, I guess.

SPEAKER_05: 1:37:48

Alright. Next game. Um, LA. Oh, sorry, the LA Chargers going to Kansas City. Shar dude. Kansas City's really fighting for their lives. They really have to win out in order to have a chance to win the playoffs to get into the playoffs. You don't think so?

SPEAKER_03: 1:38:04

I don't want to take the Chargers.

SPEAKER_05: 1:38:05

I'm going to take the Chargers as well. I just think that with Herbert playing as tough as he did last week and doing what he had to do and win that game, can Kansas City even get that much pressure on him to even do that? I just don't think so. And I just think that Kansas City and they can't get off the field on third down. Their defense has not been nearly as good. The only way their defense even does anything is if why am I finding the defensive player's name that's their best player?

SPEAKER_04: 1:38:33

Chris Jones.

SPEAKER_05: 1:38:34

Chris Jones. If he's not going otherworldly, going crazy, like their defense is nowhere near as good. So I'm going to take the Chargers as well. Next game, Buffalo at New England. New England.

SPEAKER_02: 1:38:51

You're taking New England. Yeah, Buffalo kind of got they got lucky against the Bengals.

SPEAKER_05: 1:38:58

Yeah, I don't disagree with you. Especially if this is at New England. I think New England's like a one and a half. No, Buffalo's one and a half my favorite. Wow, crazy. Highline's going back and forth. I think in New England was a favorite a couple days ago. Um, you're taking New England. The thing is, this is my problem. If Josh Allen goes, you know, full Superman mode, can New England stop that run? Like, can't can they stop him from like going nuclear?

SPEAKER_04: 1:39:30

I don't think so. If Josh Allen's Superman mode is good.

SPEAKER_05: 1:39:35

You're not wrong. I'll take New England. If this is in Buffalo, I'd feel a little bit again. New England already played them in Buffalo and beat them. So I don't know. I think New England's a little bit better football team overall right now. So I'll take them along with Jace. Next game, Washington going to the New York Giants. Ugh, this game is gross. This game is awful. Is Jane Daniels playing? Check now. Um, Daniels is not playing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:40:08

I'll take the Giants. I'll take Famous Jameis.

SPEAKER_05: 1:40:11

You're gonna take Famous Jameis? No, Jackson darts back.

SPEAKER_00: 1:40:14

Oh.

SPEAKER_05: 1:40:17

Yeah, darts back. I'll still take. I'll take I'm gonna take the Giants as well because that Washington defense is absolutely atrocious. And again, Mariota is a really good backup quarterback, but Debo Samuel is questionable. And I just think that I don't know. That defense for Washington is awful. I'll take Jackson Dart to come out and make a make a splash. Um next game, Las Vegas going to Philly. Ugh. I'm taking Philly. Even if Philly plays their worst offense, which they've been doing plenty this year, I don't think Vegas has an offense that can take advantage of that. And not to mention, I think Philly is gonna at least be smart enough defensively to be like, hey, we're gonna put all of our effort towards stopping Brock Bowers and make whoever is gonna be playing quarterback for them, either Geno Smith or you know the Kenny Pickett being their backup, make them throw to somebody else in order to win this football game. Because I don't think Ash and Gente's gonna do shit. He's been awful all year. Their offensive line is not good. So I'm gonna I think Philly, even playing their worst, I think they win this game by multiple scores. I'm guessing you agree. Yeah. Next game, New York Jets going to Jacksonville. It's Jacksonville. Um, do you know that Tyrod Taylor got hurt last week and wasn't able to finish the game and they had to have um Can you tell me something that's going on with WBA season? What?

SPEAKER_04: 1:41:53

Can you tell me something that's going on with WBA NBA season?

SPEAKER_05: 1:41:55

They're not playing right now.

SPEAKER_04: 1:41:56

Could you tell me anything that happened during their season?

SPEAKER_05: 1:41:59

Um uh why am I fading her name? Uh the Ace's best player. Um AJ nope. No, no, no, it's right. AJ Wilson. Aja Wilson. She is a she won the MVP again, won the finals MVP. That's all I got. Anything else? Um, no. I think Caitlin Clark got hurt in the middle of the season, didn't even finish off the season. So that's the thing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:42:25

I uh I saw a post of the dude who was like, hey, notice how Caitlin Clark got hurt and no one heard anything about the WMBA.

SPEAKER_05: 1:42:33

Again, I I think I'm on the outside that I wasn't even gonna hear that because I'm like, I'm not even a big Caitlyn Clark guy.

SPEAKER_04: 1:42:38

Dude, I like watching her shoot is cool.

SPEAKER_05: 1:42:41

It is cool, but again, I can watch that in a clip, but I don't care enough to go watch a full game. I've watched one. A full WNBA game? Again, I respect it, but I'm just not gonna like pretend like I care enough. And and it's not because I don't think women can play basketball, I think they're really good at basketball. I think that technically they're better players than what a lot of NBA players are doing when it comes to systematically like doing what they're supposed to and like really playing good basketball, but it's just not my bag. I did not grow up a WNBA fan, and I'm not gonna pretend to be one now.

SPEAKER_02: 1:43:20

Sorry.

SPEAKER_05: 1:43:20

Oh no, oh you're gonna be oh really? You're gonna take that stance right now? I'm guessing you're taking Jacksonville.

SPEAKER_01: 1:43:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05: 1:43:29

I wanted to say Brady Cook is gonna get his first start for the Jets against Jacksonville. And he was playing last week for the Jets and he was awful, and I don't think it's gonna get any better. So Jackson's gonna win that game. Next game, Arizona at Houston. I'm taking Houston. I think that defense is going to smother the fuck out of that Arizona offense, just like they've been doing to everybody, like they did to Kansas City last week. And I think that the Arizona defense, do I believe in them enough to like really keep CJ off his game? I just think that the offense has been a little bit shaky at times, keeping him keeping him upright. But again, even last week against Kansas City, like they went through like the really the whole third quarter going into the fourth quarter where they really couldn't do anything offensively. But when it came time to go out and make a play, CJ made it happen. And I think CJ's gonna keep doing that and keep that team up afloat. So I think Houston's gonna win that game. You agree? Yeah. Alrighty. Next game, Green Bay at Denver. This is a tougher game. It's at Denver. Denver is a hard place to play. I think Green Bay has been on a little bit of a tear as of recently. These are two, I think the defense for Denver is a lot better, and I do think who do you think which defense do you think is an easier time against the others' offense?

SPEAKER_02: 1:44:55

The Texans.

SPEAKER_05: 1:44:56

No, I'm talking about Green Bay and Denver, dude. Oh, Green Bay and Denver. Wow. You picked Houston last game against Arizona.

SPEAKER_01: 1:45:05

I think Patrice Rattain could bait that motherfucker into making a bad throw.

SPEAKER_05: 1:45:10

Yeah, I I just think that the wide again, Christian Watson really has came on recently. And Christian Watson is a very fast wide receiver. Like very fast.

SPEAKER_03: 1:45:20

Yeah, but again I think Patrick Surtain is better, so they don't matter.

SPEAKER_05: 1:45:27

And the problem is if I try pick Denver, well I will be I would be putting my pick into old boy Bo Nicks. And can I believe in him to play a full football game of good football? I just don't think I can. I don't know. I think Denver.

SPEAKER_03: 1:45:44

I've learned my lesson. Uh I'm scrape.

SPEAKER_05: 1:45:47

You're taking Green Bay? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:45:52

I I don't trust Bo Nicks.

SPEAKER_04: 1:45:55

I've learned my lesson. I'm scrape. You've taken your L. You're done with it. I think it was I was wrong.

SPEAKER_05: 1:46:01

Yeah, I'm gonna take Green Bay as well. Again, I wouldn't be surprised because Denver's a really hard place to play. And they do have a really good defense as well. But yeah. Again, putting my putting my hopes and dreams in Bonex is never a good way to go. Um next game, Detroit at the Rams. Oh, that's gonna be an awesome game.

SPEAKER_04: 1:46:17

Rams.

SPEAKER_05: 1:46:18

You're taking Rams. Yeah. The Rams have really good defense, and they've been Matthew Safford's been on a tear. Like two games ago, they had a problem with Carolina when they lost that game. But like otherwise, like they're been so good.

SPEAKER_04: 1:46:33

If Campbell's still calling the plays, then no.

SPEAKER_05: 1:46:36

Yeah, and I just don't think Detroit defensively has anything that can stop Pokendakua in Devontae Adams. Like, what do they have to stop that? Like, that's a crazy second receiver. It's insane that you could have Devontae Adams. He's your number two. Fuck. Like, what like in Matthew? That's crazy, dude. And there's nothing Detroit's gonna be able to do defensively that's gonna look at like Matthew Stafford hasn't seen. I just think Matthew Stafford's gonna have to freak out and like throw multiple picks in a first quarter like he did against Carolina a couple weeks ago. Like that's the only that's the only way that Detroit wins this game. It was a meltdown. He had a meltdown again, but he can't he's come back stronger and he's played even better. So LA Rams, Detroit, I think that'll be a very good game that I'm gonna take the over, whatever that over-under is. Carolina. Carolina, New Orleans taking Carolina? Carolina. I don't know. New Orleans played really good last week against Tampa Bay.

SPEAKER_04: 1:47:27

Bet money on it?

SPEAKER_05: 1:47:28

Huh?

SPEAKER_04: 1:47:29

Would you bet money on it?

SPEAKER_05: 1:47:30

No. It took it took their um Tyler Shuck to have two rushing touchdowns from like a 20-yard rushing touchdowns in order to do it. I'm not gonna put any money on New Orleans winning that game. Because even though I don't trust in Carolina either, but I'm forced to make a pick. Um next game, Tennessee at San Fran.

SPEAKER_01: 1:47:46

San Fran. San Fran. What the fuck would I put Tennessee?

SPEAKER_05: 1:47:50

Tennessee's showing a pulse, but it's just they just don't have the players. And I think San Fran, their defense has been their issue, but I just don't think Tennessee has anybody offensively that's gonna be able to make San Fran pay enough to lose this game. And plus, I think Chris McCaffrey's gonna go apeshit against that defense. Seattle. Um, you're on Seattle against Indianapolis?

SPEAKER_04: 1:48:07

I'm not taking fuck a 44-year-old Phil Old Brewers.

SPEAKER_05: 1:48:10

I don't think he's starting this game. Alright, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_04: 1:48:13

I don't think it mattered.

SPEAKER_05: 1:48:15

I don't think it mattered either. I think I would have taken Seattle regardless. No, they they haven't they haven't announced who there's gonna who's gonna start. It doesn't fucking matter to me. Either they're starting it, they're starting a rookie from the rookie from um Notre Dame, or they're starting a 44-year-old Philip Rivers. Do you know when he had his first press conference, he made a joke? Because again, he's always a pretty funny guy. He's like, oh, this is this isn't Zoom. This is great, because the last time he fucking played, it was COVID. He hasn't played for five years.

SPEAKER_04: 1:48:44

He was a semi-final He's a semifinalist for the fucking Hall of Fame.

SPEAKER_05: 1:48:47

It's been five years.

SPEAKER_04: 1:48:49

You have to be able to lead for six. I don't fucking care. Five years is five years is don't matter.

SPEAKER_05: 1:48:54

But no, it's just like the fact they it's malpractice to put a 44-year-old quarterback that hasn't played in five years against Seattle?

SPEAKER_04: 1:49:03

That's senior, that's a senior fucking citizen, dude. What are we doing?

SPEAKER_05: 1:49:07

Against Seattle, like one of the best defenses in the NFL?

SPEAKER_04: 1:49:10

When we watch the Browns throw out Joe throw Joe Flacco out there, Joe Flacco do 348 yards uh and four touchdowns. So maybe Phillip Rivers, Phillip Rivers was way better than quarterback than Flacco was, but Phillip Rivers ain't played in five years.

SPEAKER_05: 1:49:25

Seattle is top five in pressures, dude. Like they're sending people after you.

SPEAKER_04: 1:49:29

Real quick, and and Philip Rivers is never a mover.

SPEAKER_05: 1:49:32

He don't, he looks like he's been a dude that's been enjoying his life in Alabama making kids. Because that's he's a 99 and making children. He has like 50, he has a child that is as old as the fucking rookie the rookie quarterback.

SPEAKER_04: 1:49:48

Yeah, exactly. No, and fun fact, she's fucking older than him. And she has two kids. It's a grandfather.

SPEAKER_05: 1:49:58

He's a grandfather. He's a grandfather. He's a grandfather. And I'm just like, it's malpractice to throw him out in the football field. It's malpractice. You're throwing him out there to die.

SPEAKER_00: 1:50:06

This is fucking underabused. This is not okay. It's not okay. When when they pulled Joe Flacco's ass off the couch, everybody had a problem with it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:50:14

Joe Flacco ain't got no job. How do you not go get Joe Flacco? He's been on your team recently. How do you not go get Joe Flacco? Or maybe maybe Indianapolis is like, hey, this is our chance to lose games. We're just gonna go lose. They traded their first round pick to go get sauce fucking Gardner. They only get their first round pick.

SPEAKER_04: 1:50:33

Trade deadline, dude. Trade deadline.

SPEAKER_05: 1:50:37

No, yeah, but Joe Flacco is sitting on the fucking couch. No, he's not. Yes, he is. They the Cincinnati dropped him. Oh, what the fuck are y'all doing? They sent him home. He made a tweet, like, oh, I guess I'm going home because they Cincinnati sent him home. He's not even on the roster.

unknown: 1:50:52

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05: 1:50:53

Joe Flacco's sitting on the fucking couch. He's at least played football for your like this year.

SPEAKER_04: 1:50:58

He played football two weeks ago. My bad. A week ago. You can throw his ass in. That's crazy. Why did y'all go get Phillip Rivers? Y'all just trying to be fun.

SPEAKER_05: 1:51:06

They're just they're just trying to lose football games. But here's the thing, they don't get a first-round pick because they traded it for Sauce Gardner. And he's been dog shit. He did get hurt with an Achilles injury, but again, guess what? He may as well just blown his Achilles because he's not going to play the rest of the season. Because they're going to be worried about him blowing his Achilles and being out for next year. And that's the thing with Daniel Jones getting hurt when he did. He's not playing all of next year either. So now they're back to what are they going to do at quarterback for next year? Anthony Richardson? Oh fuck. That's going to be insane. Insane they're going to have to go back to frickin' fucking Angie Anthony Richardson to play to win them football games. Um Minnesota at Dallas. I'm taking Dallas too. Jason McCarthy had a good game last week, but it was against a who did they it was like an awful defense that they played. Oh no, let me see. Let me get there. It was at home. Yeah, it was a game. Yeah, NFC. Let me tell you, Washington. Awful defense. So he had a good game against a very dead bad defense. I just think Dallas, even though I think Dallas is a bad defense too, they can at least get pressure on you enough to where I don't think JJ McCarthy's gonna make mistakes. So I'm taking Dallas. And not to mention Dallas is gonna do two. I don't know. Maybe defen maybe this will be a defensive slug fight, and whoever's at 15 points first wins. But I'll believe in Dallas more than I'll believe in that. I agree. Last but not least, that's Sunday night game. Monday night game, Miami at Pittsburgh. I'm give me Pittsburgh. Yeah, me too. No TJ Watt, but I don't think it matters.

SPEAKER_04: 1:52:59

I agree.

SPEAKER_05: 1:53:00

Let me check the weather in that game real quick just to make sure. Let's see here. It should be 18 degrees. That's that's real, Phil. Hold on. Let's just be honest, it'll be cold. And I just think that Pittsburgh against a very bad Miami defense. I do think Mick and Fitzpatrick will be very hyped for that game. He'll be out there ready to blow some head, like really bust some heads out there. And but I just think Pittsburgh's a better football team, and I just think they'll win that football game. But again, would I be all that mad if we lost to Miami? Probably not, because we'd have a better draft pick, and it would finally put the nail in our fucking coffin for our season. Unless the Ravens lose again, which then, you know, it just keeps our season alive because the Ravens are so bad. So I don't know. It's bad all the all around, but I'll take Pittsburgh to win the game. And you know, Jace gets to have, you know what, when it comes to Pittsburgh, you get to have your cake and eat it too. Because either you pick Pittsburgh and they win, and you get to just say, oh, I guess you just get to keep going and try to make the playoffs when you're not going to do anything, or they lose and you get to say the Steelers are dog shit. You get to have it good, you get to have it made in the shade both ways, and I have to sit here and go through all this tor torment. But you know, it is what it is. Okay. That's about it. That's all of our games.

SPEAKER_04: 1:54:21

What's up? They've been pushing the fuck out of this Avatar game since the new movie's coming out.

SPEAKER_05: 1:54:27

Yeah, but I heard it's awful.

SPEAKER_04: 1:54:28

Yeah, I still don't want to play this shit. This shit has been out for forever, and I still don't want to play this shit.

SPEAKER_05: 1:54:35

Again, I watch the movies all day long.

SPEAKER_04: 1:54:36

I know, but like it's weird. How do you take such a cool concept and then fuck up a video game of it?

SPEAKER_05: 1:54:41

Yeah, it should be just very you should just have a fun, like a one-player game and explorer type of thing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:54:47

Yeah, it should have just been cyberpunk.

SPEAKER_05: 1:54:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:54:50

Set in the avatar universe. I don't know how you fuck that up.

SPEAKER_05: 1:54:53

It's not that hard. Have some cool have some cool fights with some some big bosses, like alien type of monsters.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:00

And then when you have other tribes and shit, there's affiliations.

SPEAKER_05: 1:55:03

Or you're dealing with the the normal people trying to attack you in their big machines.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:07

Yo, your goal was Skyrim. Yeah. But on the Avatar planet.

SPEAKER_05: 1:55:12

Yeah, no doubt.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:13

And y'all botched this. Then again, I all I remember about this game is trailer, it's out. That's all I remember about it.

SPEAKER_05: 1:55:20

Yeah, it's not like, yeah, you're right. You're not right.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:22

Like it was out fast.

SPEAKER_05: 1:55:24

It was.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:25

Sorry. I just wanted to say.

SPEAKER_05: 1:55:26

Again, it's that they're trying to recoup some money off of it. Again, it's a big franchise and they're coming out with a new movie, so like maybe this is the opportunity to just try to take it. Second last movie. No, I think there's two more.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:37

Yeah, it shouldn't only be four.

SPEAKER_05: 1:55:39

I think it's that I thought it was five.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:41

I was pretty sure it's four.

SPEAKER_05: 1:55:42

Doesn't matter. I'll go what we're gonna watch them either way, but you know, it is what it is. But you know. Alright, that's about it for all the foot all everything we want to talk about.

SPEAKER_04: 1:55:51

I don't know. I'm off opening day.

SPEAKER_05: 1:55:53

Was that the Friday? Yeah, because it'd be Thursday night. They have some openings. That'll be Friday, the opening day. We could Friday night type of thing, like podcast, and then just go straight to a movie. We could do that. Alright, let's let's we'll make it happen. Alright, that's it. We're in the podcast here. Even though I said this supposed to be a shorter podcast, we still went two hours because we talked about everything else we wanted to talk about. We just went off script because we only did like 20 minutes on Michigan.

SPEAKER_04: 1:56:22

There's no sports, so we start talking about real quick, not we started talking about a whole lot of other sports. Yeah. We went in a while on baseball.

SPEAKER_05: 1:56:29

A little bit on baseball. And then we just went off on toll, like the Joe Burrow thing, which took us a little bit of a while to talk about. It was always sports. It was fun. And we did what we wanted to do. It was fun. It was fun. We didn't force anything.

SPEAKER_04: 1:56:40

I have a very angry person waiting for me.

SPEAKER_05: 1:56:41

I know. I'm sorry. Sorry about you.

SPEAKER_04: 1:56:43

I had a cook dinner.

SPEAKER_05: 1:56:44

Oof. I had a fun time doing it. Let's end the podcast here. If you've been listening for a while, we appreciate you if you're just not jumping on. Hopefully you like us and enjoy us enough to talk about to join us on this ride of talking about sports in the dumbest way possible. And if you do like us and enjoy us, we'd appreciate if you do a couple things for us. If you could like our podcast, subscribe to the podcast, rate the podcast five stars. Wherever you listen to us, we're available on all audio platforms out there. So just make sure you do that for us. We'd appreciate it. Last but not least, share podcast friends with friends, family, enemies, anybody that feel like could enjoy the podcast on a weekly basis that we do during football seasons twice a week. And then last but not least, make sure you follow us on Twitter and or X, whatever you like to call it, at JB Sports Pod is the podcast handle. At javanteboozer is my handle. At Jace Boozer1 is Jace's handle. And that is it. I'll hand it over to Jace Week and finish off the pod.

SPEAKER_04: 1:57:36

You forgot to say you rate us five stars. Uh I did. No, I said that. The J this has been the J Sports Podcast. Thank you guys listening. Always listening. You guys have a nice day and a nice night. Bye y'all. I did say it. You did not.

SPEAKER_05: 1:57:45

Bye y'all. See y'all next week.