We Argued About Hospital Balls And Somehow The Steelers Won

December football shouldn’t feel this contradictory, but here we are: two thrilling college playoff games, two absolute duds, and a bracket design that looks more like a TV contract than a meritocracy. We unpack why Alabama flipped Oklahoma with one momentum punch, how wind and field position turned Miami–Texas A&M into a 10–3 grinder, and why Oregon and Ole Miss rolling is less about talent disparity and more about how guaranteed bids for the group of five mostly invite mismatches. When a Group of Five team is truly elite—Cincinnati-level mature and NFL-laden—they earn it. Otherwise, the product suffers.

From there we hit the portal storm brewing at quarterback—big names, bigger ripple effects—and sketch a saner system: conference-level contracts with loyalty escalators, reasonable transfer buyouts to protect development, and NIL transparency to reward staying without killing mobility. Fans crave continuity; programs need incentives that make “one more year” good business.

Then it’s a full NFL slate: Herbert’s most complete performance in months, Burrow carving Miami, and Trevor Lawrence proving Jacksonville’s offense travels. The Saints find life and Chris Olave joy, Tampa’s timing falls apart, and the Steelers beat the Lions behind explosive runs before a rulebook-splitting finish on forward progress and OPI. The Chiefs’ QB crisis shows how thin the margin gets when contingencies fail; the Titans simply took the gift. We close with Christmas Day picks—Dallas over Washington’s leaky D, Detroit to steady against a battered Minnesota, and Denver to handle a wounded Kansas City—plus why execution, not vibes, decides December.

If you’re into honest breakdowns, smart fixes, and just enough chaos to argue about on the timeline, hit play. And if you had thoughts about that goal-line whistle or G5 seeding, we want to hear them. Subscribe, share with a friend, and drop a five-star review so more sports fans can find us.

Chapters

• 0:10 Holiday Setup And Show Plan
• 1:07 Reaction Pod Scope: CFP Then NFL
• 1:35 Quick Hoops And Weird Fields Tangent
• 5:10 Chiefs’ Stadium Move And Stadium Politics
• 9:10 Powerball Fantasies And Family Money Ethics
• 28:10 Pivot Back To Sports: College Playoff
• 28:50 Alabama Beats Oklahoma: Momentum Swing
• 32:37 Miami 10–3 Over Texas A&M: Wind And Kicking
• 41:04 Oregon And Ole Miss Roll: G5 Mismatch
• 47:32 Should G5 Bids Be Guaranteed
• 56:07 Quarterfinal Matchups Announced
• 58:39 Transfer Portal QBs And NIL Ideas
• 1:13:02 NFL Picks Scoreboard And Standings
• 1:16:31 Eagles Tune-Up Versus Washington
• 1:19:14 Bears Stun Packers In OT
• 1:34:25 Bills Edge Browns And Injuries
• 1:42:57 Chargers Handle Cowboys Behind Herbert
• 1:50:40 Mahomes Out, Titans Top Reeling Chiefs
• 1:57:01 Bengals Torch Dolphins: Burrow Cooks
• 2:05:58 Saints’ Three-Game Spark And Olave
• 2:10:41 Vikings-Giants Slog And JJ’s Injury
• 2:18:14 Panthers Nick Bucs: Tampa Sputters
• 2:27:46 Jaguars’ Statement Win Over Broncos
• 2:36:26 Falcons Outlast Cardinals
• 2:40:47 Steelers Upset Lions And Late-Game Chaos

Transcript

SPEAKER_04: 0:10

Welcome back to the podcast. Today is Tuesday, December 23rd. We're back for the podcast.

SPEAKER_01: 0:16

We're back! We're here! It's week of Christmas! And like I promised, you have both Jace and I here doing the reaction pod from this past weekend's games. And we will also be doing another another podcast later on this week to do the previews of most of the NFL games for next week. Because we're gonna do like the first, the three Christmas Day games. We're gonna make our predictions on that game. And then we saw we still have the rest of the slate to do on that. So we'll do a reaction pod to on Friday of the Christmas Day games, and then we'll do the previews of the rest of the slate and do it that way. So without further ado, I really have nothing uh for today. The whole plan is to go ahead and do the reaction to the Cosmo playoff games. One little news thing I wanted to talk about with the with the call with Cos Football, and then we'll go into the NFL where we're do our reactions to all the games that happened during week 16. And then we'll go from there, make our picks for the for the Christmas Day games, and then that'll be us for the for the pod. So I got another I got so without further ado, I have I don't have any you didn't you don't have any like baseball or basketball things you want to talk about at all. Basketball you never do. Um baseball did you see LeBron grab the one official by the arm because he was mad about a call or something? And everybody was like all shocked because LeBron did something that you know he never does, which is like maybe make a little bit of an ass out of himself because he's mad at something happening. You know, it's kind of funny, but again, LeBron's LeBron. He's for so long he's been the perfect the perfect person. Maybe not person, but the perfect uh role model for literally a whole sport. Um you have to imagine him being in his forties. There's maybe a little bit of a I don't care factor in there to where some things might happen when he's trying to play competitive basketball. But it was shocking with because he grabbed the official by like his underarm trying to get his attention because he was mad about a call that didn't get called. But you know, it's funny enough. Um baseball. I got nothing. There's really literally nothing. No big signings for the Yankees. I was kind of looking for that. I'm like, no, they're playing it very chill. Really nothing going on.

SPEAKER_04: 2:32

And let's just, you know, it's kind of sports have been really It's all football.

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It's football, football, football.

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Like everything of year. It's it's football kind of takes over this time of year in a way that other sports supplement and fill in. I guess if you're into college basketball, it's happening. Uh the Knicks won the cup.

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Yeah.

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But they'll never win an actual ring.

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But here's my thing. Do do people actually care about the cup?

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That's cool.

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Unless you're the fan of the team winning the cup, do you give an ounce of a fuck about it? It's cool. It's cool if you're in the in the the the the courts are really cool.

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Some of them aren't.

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Some of them are a little too loud. It kind of gives you like the boisey, the boisey field vibe when he they have like an all-blue field.

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I don't hate boise field, but again, it's like brand.

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I'm not mad when people like look at him be like, oh, it hurts my eyes. I'm like, yeah, it's a little bright blue. You know who does it better? Coastal Carolina. They do like the teal, right?

SPEAKER_04: 3:26

The teal, they do it way fucking better.

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And why am I thinking there's like a Western Kentucky or something like that that has the all-red field? Or am I just going crazy?

SPEAKER_04: 3:35

Nope, you might be right.

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There's somebody that does that. It's like red or something like that.

SPEAKER_04: 3:40

West or Western Kentucky. No, they do the green.

SPEAKER_01: 3:46

It's like it's somebody that does an all-red football field and it's college college football. I swear it is. Maybe I'm going insane. Eastern Washington. Eastern Washington. There we go.

SPEAKER_04: 3:56

That's fucking horrendous. That's horrendous.

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Uh at least they outlined it with the black a little bit to try to mute it out a tad bit. Okay, so I'm not crazy. I'm glad I'm glad you were able to come to confirm.

SPEAKER_04: 4:10

That's nice.

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The teal ain't bad. I like that. But here's again, it's a it's lighter teal, so it's like not as well.

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If it was darker, I think it'd look better.

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It's uh Well, like if it gets any darker, you're talking about the boisey, you're getting close to the boisey feet.

SPEAKER_04: 4:25

But again, it's surrounded by like the golden white.

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Yeah, no, it's a I quite like that. Not to mention, do you know what it kind of gives me the vibe of as you're showing me that picture? The old. It's almost like the Miami feet. Like my you think about the Miami field. It's like an old older turf because it's been sitting for so long. The grass starts to age, so it's not actually green anymore. It starts fading. Yeah, that's the vibe it gives me because it's because that teal.

SPEAKER_04: 4:48

I really like it. I think I have a nice field. It's one of my favorite teams to uh play against in college football because I like how their field looks. Uh playing on Boise's field is blinding even when the game. This is fucking blinding. And then they wear the blue jersey. I'm like, I can't see you.

SPEAKER_01: 5:06

Like you're just trying, you're just trying to go like missing on the field. You're killing me. Yeah, it's insane. Oh, and speaking of fields, Kansas City, did you hear that they are moving? So, Kansas City, the Chiefs. NFL, sorry. I don't I'm you were talking about fields, so it's just a perfect spot to kind of jump in in there. Kansas City in 2031 will be moving to a brand new stadium that's being built in Kansas. Twenty miles away from where they're at now, in Kansas City, Missouri, they are actually moving to Kansas.

SPEAKER_07: 5:42

Where are they at?

SPEAKER_01: 5:43

They're in they're they're in Missouri. They're in Kansas City, Missouri. Because they sit, because Kansas City is like right on the border. What Kansas City did, which is like honestly a very specific thing that only they can do because they're so close to both right in between both states, they pinned the two states against each other. They said whoever's gonna give us more money, taxpayer money, towards building a new stadium, we're gonna go there. And they got more money from taxpayer money from Kansas to build a new stadium, and it's gonna be a dome.

SPEAKER_02: 6:17

Cool.

SPEAKER_01: 6:17

So they're gonna move 20 miles west to go to Kansas. Kind of insane. I I I again nobody else, because if you any other team tried to do that, it's always, hey, we're gonna move 30 states away to San Antonio or it's Vegas moving to sorry, it's the Raiders moving from Oakland. Oakland to Vegas. So like you're they're moving far away, right? But when you're talking that far.

SPEAKER_04: 6:45

It's a state away.

SPEAKER_01: 6:46

That's hours. That's from Oakland to Vegas.

SPEAKER_04: 6:50

Oakland from like, you're you're talking like the St. Louis Rams to Los Angeles. That's far.

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Yes.

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From Oakland to Vegas? Nigga, that's six hours.

SPEAKER_01: 7:02

Yeah, you're right. It's not it's not a crazy, it's not the craziest card.

SPEAKER_04: 7:04

Or supertonics to Oklahoma City. Right, yes. You're talking states away.

SPEAKER_01: 7:10

States away, yes. That's that's where teams usually do, where they're like, hey, or the or the Jaguars, and you're saying, hey, if we don't get a new stadium here, we're gonna move to freaking London.

SPEAKER_04: 7:20

You guys can go. Fucking leave.

SPEAKER_01: 7:22

They got the deal done. So they're they're gonna get a whole deal done. They're gonna have a whole complex they're building because again, here's what's the crazy part. They all want to do what the Patriots do and make these huge stadiums and then have all these surrounding buildings that have businesses and then be able to charge all the bit all these businesses for rent. That's how they make their money on the back end, even though barely any of them actually pay for their full stadium. All of them ask for taxpayer money to pay for a specific like half or a like a chunk of it. Do you know the one coach, the one owner that paid for all of his stadium? I hate to give him credit.

SPEAKER_04: 7:59

Jerry Jones.

SPEAKER_01: 8:00

It's Jerry fucking Jones. He said, Nope, I don't need y'all money. I can do it with my own oil money. Which is great, good for him, but also, you know, he's done so many other different things I'm not gonna be on the side for.

SPEAKER_04: 8:09

We were having this conversation upstairs. If you were to get rich, you like so Ohio has a powerball right now of like 1.7 billion. Yeah. After taxes, you'll get like 700 to 65 million, right?

SPEAKER_01: 8:20

600 to 700 million.

SPEAKER_04: 8:22

Yeah, my bad. I would never give anybody money, uh-huh, but I'd buy businesses and have them be a part of it.

SPEAKER_01: 8:31

I'm not no, I I give people money.

SPEAKER_04: 8:33

No, see, I can't give people money because as soon as me personally, I would waste a lot of it. In a way, I'm not gonna let people try to waste it. I'm gonna see I'm gonna try to set everybody else up for success. Also, I would like to live on like a family compound of I have like, let's say, a hundred acres of land, 20 of it's used for a couple houses for my family, and we get each other like side by side. Yeah. But then I don't have to build multiple different houses, and then like we have to have like a one big pool. Right. Uh, and then the rest of the land's working land. Animals, that's being worked.

SPEAKER_01: 9:11

Me and you would handle that very differently. I would give everybody their money. I'm not giving anybody money. I here's this I'll deal with it, right?

SPEAKER_04: 9:20

I'm going to set everybody up to where they can make their own money. To where eventually, five, six years from now, we're all rich.

SPEAKER_01: 9:28

Well, but here's here's the thing. When you do that, you're then saying that you know better than they do.

SPEAKER_04: 9:34

Yes, I'm not giving you a million dollars. Maybe you're giving our sister money?

SPEAKER_01: 9:41

Yeah. I give her a one-time stipend of like, hey, I'm gonna give you, I'm paying you out. If I'm getting bill, if I'm getting 600 million, I'm gonna give you your two million dollars. Boom. If you get 600 million and cut me off two million, I'm beating your ass.

SPEAKER_04: 9:55

You want more than that? 600 million? Nigga, if you don't cut me off 30 right now, 30 is crazy. 600 million, Javante. 600 million. You can take 100 million and cut it between even live between the rest of us. I gotta live. You live it forever.

SPEAKER_01: 10:14

You rich, rich now. Alright. 2 million is probably I'd give it, I'd give you, I'd give you like 10. I'll give you, I'll give you all 10.

SPEAKER_04: 10:20

Nigga. 10 million apiece. You better cut those off 20 million apiece.

SPEAKER_01: 10:24

I'll give you, I I give you all, I give you all just a this is it. This is the money.

SPEAKER_04: 10:28

And then I'll pay you back the money. I'll owe you. An exact cat.

SPEAKER_01: 10:33

That'll be literally like nickels by that if that happened. That was be nickels by that point. When's the drawing?

SPEAKER_04: 10:38

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01: 10:39

Dang. I didn't do it. Makes me a go and buy the power.

SPEAKER_04: 10:42

But again, like it's like.

SPEAKER_01: 10:44

But no, I give you guys your money, and then I'll be like, hey, this is the money. I'm not giving you any more. What you guys decide to do with it is your is is you. But what I will do is like you said, with the comp not maybe not a compound type of thing, but I would buy a big piece of thing of land, put a bunch of houses on it, be like, hey, we wanna I'll build all these houses. These are all gonna be reasonable houses.

SPEAKER_04: 11:04

These are not gonna be nothing crazy. I'm saying, like, I like I personally, I don't know. I'm not gonna ask you to do farm stuff. No, no, I'm no, I'm not saying anybody has to do farm stuff. I'm saying there'd be a part that's still making me money. Right, okay. Now it's just my land, somebody else is running that, but it's making me money.

SPEAKER_01: 11:19

I get what you're saying.

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I would own the that was the next thing. It's if I'm gonna have a family compound, I'm gonna own a couple businesses.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 11:25

And if you guys want to help and learn how to run these businesses, you can do that. Because then you can make your own money. I'm making revenue from the business, and you're getting a salary from the business.

SPEAKER_01: 11:36

Yeah, I would just buy businesses and do it that way.

SPEAKER_04: 11:39

Same one, so would I, and I'd buy like complexes, especially because we live in a great state, do stuff like that. Of they're always building.

SPEAKER_01: 11:46

I guess, yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 11:48

Personally, one, I think a family compound's cool. We have like side by side.

SPEAKER_01: 11:53

Not even just a compound. Like, I guess a compound you can do more specific things like that.

SPEAKER_04: 11:57

I I call it a compound of like we'd have like one big pool, right? Uh and then several houses with like pathways to get to them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'd have like side by sides, four-wheelers, stuff to get everywhere. Yeah. But I told I was like, personally, if I was to win the money, I'm gonna have my own decent sized house. It's gonna have a bunch of cool stuff. Like, I want a smile staircase. That looks cool. Uh that's cool to me. And then like it would cut off. This is the first thing I built. It would cut off probably about a little further past the house. I got a 40-car garage. Lifting everything. I told mom, I was like, the first thing I would do, if I numbers ain't even been finished drawn, they ain't even finished finished the program yet. And I know I've won. I have 15 cars, called 50, emailed 15 dealers. They'll be here tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01: 12:42

I would buy a maxed out electric vehicle and call it a day.

SPEAKER_04: 12:45

I am going to find the rarest cars on the planet and then drive them every day. I'm gonna drive a different one every day. Yeah, that's crazy. I'm gonna drive one for the first couple hours of the day, first like six hours of the day, come back home, jump in a different one, drive that one.

SPEAKER_01: 12:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 12:58

Again, rich people don't drive.

SPEAKER_01: 13:01

Oh, by the way, a trip, a nice, extravagant trip where all expenses paid would be the first thing I do.

SPEAKER_04: 13:07

That's in there. I was like, in a month, I'm going to Japan. Uh I was like, I have to. I was like, I'm about to just start going. And then I was like, I was like, other stuff I'd do. I was like, I would just go to like a different state every few weeks just to like just like their biggest city, see what it's like. Just because how many people would say they've been to all 50 states?

SPEAKER_01: 13:25

I'm just states, I go to countries, man. There's a lot of people. I know about Japan.

SPEAKER_04: 13:28

I'd want to explore here first. Because there's so much here. I go to all like the biggest cities in each state. Yeah. Because like in certain states, like there's four in Texas. So you got San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, and then the fourth one that I can't remember the name of.

SPEAKER_01: 13:42

San Antonio, Dallas.

SPEAKER_04: 13:44

Sacramento? That's in California.

SPEAKER_01: 13:46

No. Oh, you're are you thinking about the new one? You're thinking about uh Austin.

SPEAKER_04: 13:51

Austin. Austin, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_01: 13:53

That one's like the up and coming. It's like the it's like the Columbus Hipster one. It's the Columbus of Texas. No, that's all the no, that's the Democrats.

SPEAKER_04: 14:03

Again, I don't care. I'm going like I I like I'd go to all four of those. Uh-huh. I'd be in LA for like 30 minutes. I'm like, it smells like shit here. Let's go home.

SPEAKER_01: 14:11

Same thing with San Francisco. Be the same issue.

SPEAKER_04: 14:14

I want to go home. Yeah. Um. I just stay in Hawaii for a little bit.

SPEAKER_01: 14:19

Hawaii would be like that. Like, hey, we're all just going to Hawaii.

SPEAKER_04: 14:26

I'd have to take everyone with me to Japan.

SPEAKER_01: 14:29

See, I don't think everybody would get things out of Japan that we would. I think it'd be like a brother trip for sure.

SPEAKER_04: 14:34

I think everyone would get the beauty out of Japan of just the looking of the country, of all this is so old and historic. There's nothing old and historic here. The oldest statue here is like 300 years old. Like, what the fuck? Like there's nothing to really look out look at here. Like the Grand Canyon would be cool. Yeah. Just because that's a it's a marvel to look at. Yeah. But like compared to I go to a country that's been around for ages and ages. Oh, there's so much to look at. Japan's one of those countries with a whole bunch to look at. Italy's a place where there's a whole bunch to look at.

SPEAKER_01: 15:03

China.

SPEAKER_04: 15:04

I'm not going to Russia. What the fuck do I want to go there for?

SPEAKER_01: 15:07

China to go to the Great Wall, that'd be kind of sick.

SPEAKER_04: 15:09

That'd be cool. See, I'd want to go to I don't know what the building's called in Russia. The really colorful one. No clue. You know what it is. It's in Moscow.

SPEAKER_01: 15:20

Is that the capital? Um I think so. Colorful building in Russia. It's been looked up before. So that means we're close. Um St. Basil's Cathedral?

SPEAKER_04: 15:37

Yes, that. You've seen that before.

SPEAKER_01: 15:40

I've definitely seen that for sure. Yeah, I'm not tripping.

SPEAKER_04: 15:43

Yeah, no doubt. That's just the one, like, I'd want to go see like the Taj Mahal.

SPEAKER_01: 15:46

Taj Mahal.

SPEAKER_04: 15:47

Like stuff that's just a marvelous. The pyramids. Nah, I'm scrape.

SPEAKER_01: 15:50

I want to see what the aliens built.

SPEAKER_04: 15:51

Nah, I'm scrape. See, that's the one where I'm like, somebody's trying to sell me something here. Like, I've seen the videos of it of like, I don't want to go to that one. I I feel bad saying that. I don't want to go to that one. Hey.

SPEAKER_00: 16:03

I don't know who built it. Who knows?

SPEAKER_04: 16:05

I'll go see it from a far. Give me some binoculars.

SPEAKER_01: 16:10

Again, it's not like they're gonna let anybody, just anybody in anyway. So it is what it is.

SPEAKER_04: 16:14

That's what I'm like, uh I can live without it. I get what you're saying. Like, but like there's so much more I could do with that money. I'd make my I'd buy enough businesses and stuff to where I'm now just living off the revenue from what I'm making.

SPEAKER_01: 16:29

Yeah, no doubt. Put a big chunk of it into just the um like a SPM, I forget what they call it. It's a high uh savings account. Yeah, high interest.

SPEAKER_04: 16:38

And then I'm just living off the interest. Living off the interest. Um like but like I'd family compound would be my first thing. I'd build an area where everybody has a large scale house. Lar four bedrooms.

SPEAKER_01: 16:50

You can live.

SPEAKER_04: 16:50

Four bedrooms, like it's plenty.

SPEAKER_01: 16:52

You don't have to pay for it.

SPEAKER_04: 16:53

You don't have to pay for it.

SPEAKER_01: 16:54

All you have to do is oh see, I I'd I I'd be I'd give everybody their money and build the compound, but you know, that's just me. Maybe I'm just more giving than you are.

SPEAKER_04: 17:07

I'd build a compound, and then your options are are you going in the business with me so that I can make everyone rich, or are you gonna keep working your job? Because your job don't pay for this house. It was figured out. Um and then I'd want to move states.

SPEAKER_01: 17:29

Yeah, saying in Ohio.

SPEAKER_04: 17:30

But I don't know which state to move to. Big forests scare me. Big forests scare me. A state like Oregon would freak me out.

SPEAKER_00: 17:42

I think what you're saying.

SPEAKER_04: 17:44

Like Tennessee would freak me the fuck out. I don't like Tennessee, I don't like more in the cabins. I it's awful. Something's looking at me and I can't see it.

SPEAKER_01: 17:52

Yeah, that's a that is a real potential issue. No, I agree.

SPEAKER_04: 17:58

I would 100%. I couldn't chuck cut everybody a chuck of money. I would not give money to our sister. She's never had money, so I feel like she wouldn't know what to do with money. And then she'd waste it.

SPEAKER_01: 18:12

That's where uh maybe or maybe I could just give everybody like a do it like the like the old man with his children vibe and just say, hey, I'm putting everybody in an account that's controlled by a third party, and if you have something you need to buy, you need to talk to that person, you need to give them a good reason as to why you need it.

SPEAKER_04: 18:29

I'd want to set everybody else up for success, so in five to s five to six years, you're now rich on your own.

SPEAKER_01: 18:35

So that's that's where my problem is, is that if I why I wouldn't be comfortable doing that is because if I fuck up and put money into the wrong thing and make us all broke, we're fucked.

SPEAKER_04: 18:49

The other thing is the after I buy all the stupid shit I'm gonna buy for like a month, I'm going to now find people who are smarter than me to help me run these things. That's the first thing I would want to do, is I'm gonna surround me by people who are smarter than I am. I get the idea. And then I'm going to enlighten myself, like I'm gonna go get some type of degree so I understand what I'm doing with my money. Teach myself how to work with my own money while having somebody else explain and show me how to work with the money. And then I can start helping everybody else truly. I have to help myself first and set myself up to where I can always have money before I can truly set everybody else up. If I was to win, I'd probably tell no one for a while.

SPEAKER_01: 19:29

But here's my thing. I don't I think a move like that is not as necessary when you're getting the absorbent amount of money you're getting. But that's the thing. If you're getting a couple million, then that's something that where you have to be very strategic.

SPEAKER_04: 19:41

Is great, but I'm gonna make sure my family is rich for the rest of our history. We are never going broke.

SPEAKER_01: 19:49

Yeah, but if you just if you just throw a big bottle of money into a into the high interest stuff, you that literally exactly works the exact same way.

SPEAKER_04: 19:56

But then I'm just rich for nothing. Now I'm not gonna sit around and do nothing, I have to do something about. Money. So I'm going to buy things and I'm gonna make sure my family is rich for the rest of time. So that son fucking explodes. I want to make sure my family's rich.

SPEAKER_01: 20:12

I don't know why that doesn't that doesn't appeal to me at all. I I wouldn't I'm honestly not just gonna blow blow it all, right?

SPEAKER_04: 20:20

If you could blow$650 million, you need to be studied.

SPEAKER_01: 20:24

Yeah, for sure. That'd be crazy. But that wouldn't be my goal. My goal wouldn't just be to burn it all, would just to burn it all into smithereens within a couple generations. But I'm not gonna sit here and be like, I have to build an empire out of this now. Like that's not really what I'm thinking about.

SPEAKER_04: 20:36

I'm not saying I I'm not saying an empire, but I want to have enough money by the time I'm 50 to buy the bangles. So you know.

SPEAKER_01: 20:43

That is a real goal.

SPEAKER_04: 20:44

There's levels to this.

SPEAKER_01: 20:45

That's a real goal. That's a I'll give you that. That's a real goal because heck, by the time you even get there, football teams be worth like$20 billion. Exactly. Well it'll just be a couple billion.

SPEAKER_04: 20:54

Exactly. And that's the thing. Just that$650,$50 million is only enough to pay Jamar Chase Tegans and Joe Burrow.

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That's barely enough to pay them.

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Barely. Exactly. Barely. And that's basically all the Bengals have. So I I have enough to do it.

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That's only for a season. That's only for their contracts, and that's over.

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Shit without Joe Burrow's feeling, it may only be for another season.

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Yeah, no doubt.

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But again, I just I it was a it was a talk upstairs. Because it's it's spurred from would you punch your significant other for a billion dollars? And I was like, Yes. I'd beat the shit out of you for a billion dollars. I was like, if you told me no, then I picked the wrong person to be with.

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Yeah.

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And she was like, You think uh Joe would let you punch? I was like, Joe would close his eyes and tell me to do it. I was like, if we're splitting it 50-50.

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Yeah, no doubt. It didn't have to be 50-50, just give me a big chunk and we'll be fine. I can knock Joe out. He'd never even care. Give me, give me a big chunk and then pay for my medical bills, and it'll be fine. Like there is no if there's a bunch of like again, that's just a again, that's so easy. That's an easy when it comes to start killing people for it. We already had this conversation on podcast. I couldn't do it. I'm I'm weakling that way. But if I decided to punch somebody in the face to make it happen, you can live through that in the face.

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I was like, he would clean my shit.

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Yeah, no clean.

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I'd go as hard as I can.

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I would get brass knuckles if necessary. I would do what I have to do.

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What if they don't have to punch you in your uh face at all? I was like, then Joe would probably try to cave my chest.

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Yeah, do what you gotta do. Yeah. Gotta do what you gotta do. I was like, that's rich for life. The the odds, the sorry, the the the gain is so much larger than the risk. Than the risk that I don't care. It doesn't matter. I can fix it. Money can fix that.

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Fix it.

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That whatever I do to you, money can fix that. Money can fix it. Like once you start talking about cutting off limbs and stuff, that's a totally separate scenario.

SPEAKER_04: 22:43

Which limb and do I get to pick?

SPEAKER_01: 22:44

Well, fingers, yes, but once you start cutting off like whole legs.

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How far up my arm do I have to cut off? Are we stop at the elbow? I can get a really cool prosthetic.

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No, once you're that rich, you don't have to ri live a regular life anymore. If you're talking Nobody has to see you with no arm unless you don't want if you don't want the.

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If somebody comes to you, hey, your dominant arm, elbow down, cut it off, billion dollars. They can fucking they can hardwire a prosthetic into my arm. I have so much money. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

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Ta tax-free?

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Oh, tax-free. It's a billion dollars.

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Okay, fine. Yes, then I can I'll I'll manage, but I'm about to get the coolest bionic arm. The thought, because again, it's so easy like moving your finger doesn't take a second of thought.

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I know, but there's it won't take a thought. It won't take a thought.

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You think that, but we don't know because we don't have a capability, we don't have we don't have the means to see it. I get it. No, I think.

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We have the means to see it. I have the means to fund it.

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Yeah, but who knows if that's actually gonna work that way. But again, you're right. You have the money to find out.

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The risk is I have the money to find out now.

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Yeah.

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The risk and the reward, you could take it.

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Doing it to myself is one thing, but doing it to others, I think, would be an automatic no. Hey, you gotta cut off Jace's arm to go do it. I'm like, I don't think I can do it.

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If you came to me, tell me you didn't cut my arm off to go get that billion dollars, I'd beat you ass with the arm.

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Well, obviously that I would never tell you. I would just have to live with that. I would just live with that. I wouldn't tell you nothing. I could have fixed it all.

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I could have fixed it.

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But he wouldn't be able to walk.

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Fuck the leg, bro.

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I couldn't do it.

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See, you know what's funny? A leg is where you get me to be iffy. A leg is where you get me to be iffy.

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An arm you can live without.

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You could take my I see. I want I want this to here. I want down to here.

SPEAKER_01: 24:48

Okay, so portion I want. You still want to feel some movement then?

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It's easier to get a prosthetic. Yeah. From your hand up, yeah. It's easier to put a prosthetic on it. Yeah, for sure. Compared to you can still connect it to the tendon, that still works. Yeah. Compared to the whole thing, yeah. That's a lot harder.

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Yeah.

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A bion, uh like a a leg to do it with. I've seen like I I had a friend who had a false leg, and it was one of the ones you had a charge. It worked really well. It died one day during class, and you went to stand up, and the leg didn't move. And at the time those were pretty new. Right. Yeah. And he and he was like, I don't know what to do, and I was like, Take it off. I was like, crawl.

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But like I I couldn't do a leg. I think that's where you lose me, because I can learn how to walk in the leg. Like, I'm not. A little too much of a life change.

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Little too much of a life change. I no, for sure it'd be very rich. Okay. Yeah, I think we have fun with that, right? We have very fun with that.

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We don't have a whole lot of sports talk. And it was like I that that amount of money is so crazy to me.

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Yeah, no doubt.

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Of like, I can now go pursue my dream.

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Literally, whatever.

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I don't know what that is yet.

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Not even the dream.

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It's just like you just I'm now living the dream.

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Again, it just buys you a sense of freedom.

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That is unfathomable.

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That's unfathomable. And I think that's like one of those things that's like, oh, life is different when you have the freedom of that. Like you don't have you don't have to go to work tomorrow because you have the m you don't have to worry about whether you have to eat or I see why rich people live so long. Right. And then I have no stress. Or they get mad about other shit. And it's like, oh, money doesn't buy you happiness. But I'm like, well, you are lying. It gets okay, it doesn't buy you money. Total happiness.

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Money will buy total fucking happiness. You are lying to me, especially if I if my me and my family is rich, which is where it comes from. I'm trying to set everybody else also to be rich. So now you don't have to rely on me for money. You have your own money. When you cut somebody off a chunk of money, they're gonna come for more if they run out. I want to make sure no one has to come for more. I couldn't do no.

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Yeah, it's just the the freedom of it. The free the freedom is what that's I think that to me that's what's more appealing because if I could just buy a little like like a little just a literal like mi uh what do they call them? Tiny house, have a place to throw it somewhere. No, but here's the thing, just have a car to be able to move it, not have to worry about that, and then don't have to worry about like slaving away to try to pay for me being able to live and be able to eat food. Like that's a like that's a totally separate mindset you get to be in when you don't have to worry about those type of things. Then if you're just in sitting there in the everyday struggles of life, to having to think about, hey, if I call off work today, that might ruin my chance to be able to eat or be able to go buy food like way the way I need to. Or pay for rent. Or just like all the this just the necessities. Again, all these necessities that should be available to all everybody, no matter who you are. But you know, again, it is what it is, capitalist society. But yeah, very, very fun conversation there. I'm not gonna lie to you. So let's get actually get to the sports, what we are here for college football. Let's get to that first. So the college football playoff games, there was only four of them. I would contend there really were only two actual games. Am I going am I am I wrong on that? No, you're not wrong. Two actual games. Um, let me get to the bracket here. So all these games, they happened between Friday and Saturday of this past weekend. I was recording during the Alabama game. By the time I jumped off, Oklahoma was already up by like 10 points. It was up 10-0. And they actually got up to 17-0 in the second quarter before they let Alabama score 17 unanswered in that second quarter before the game was before the first half was over. That was capped off by a pick six that John Mateer threw, and that's what totally tied the game up going into the second half. And then from there, OU shit down their own leg, and Alabama was able to score 17, 17 points to Oklahoma 7. But it's just once Oklahoma got into that hole and their their confidence was shattered, they really just had no shot to really get back in that game. Because offensively, I've been talking about how the Oklahoma offense had been terrible all year long, at least ever since Mateer broke his thumb on his throwing hand, he the offense has been bad. But like they were rolling up until they shit down their leg in that first half, and just felt like all the momentum went towards Alabama's way, and there was nothing Oklahoma could possibly do about it. And then once they really got down and they had to throw the football every single time to try to get back into the game, it was never going to happen because Oklahoma's offense was not built to play like that. Bama did what they had to do. Ty Simpson, here's the thing: Bama didn't even necessarily play awesome. I truly think it was because Oklahoma shit down their own legs and Bama was just able to play normal football. That was ended up being the difference. Ty Simpson, 18-29 for 232 and two touchdowns. Rushing yards. Bama only had 28 total rushing yards in this game.

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Damn.

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With their longest run being for 30. Like that was the running game for Alabama. They haven't been able to run the football all year long. They still weren't able to run the football in this game. Um, the Ryan Williams, the crazy good wide receiver for Alabama, one catch for five yards. So, but it the other other receivers obviously made a big difference. Uh Latsier Brooks, five catches, 79 yards, two touchdowns. Isaiah Horton, five catches, 65 yards. Jeremy Bernard, three catches, 40 yards. Ryan Williams isn't even a top three wide receiver in his own on that team. It's absolutely hilarious how people were trying to compare him to Jeremiah. Um, so like there was like the Alabama offense was just able to play normal in that second half while Oklahoma pretty much turned in dog shit. I will give Oklahoma a tab and dip credit that John Mateer did hit one pass in that second half where it was an open pass to their wide receiver, and all he had to do was catch it, and he'd be running into the end zone, and they would have gone up I think they would have gone up like 12 with like 10 minutes left in that ballgame, I think. I've I'm I may be a little maybe wrong on that. But they would have went back up and had a bigger lead. I think it was 10 points. Um, and maybe would have made it a little bit harder on Alabama to try to come back in that game. But it was it was just it was just it was just a bad, it was bad all around. Oklahoma didn't play with the way they needed to, especially with them being at home. It felt like their fans were okay in the stands for the first half, and then as soon as things started going bad, you could just tell the fans were getting a bad thought. It's like, oh, this is really going bad, and then it's just like a nervous energy watching that game. And give Bama a lot of credit, they came out there, they took advantage of the moment that Oklahoma gave to them, and they went out and won that football game. But it was a it was a very awesome, it was very good game to watch. Even if it was more of like a lot of scoring, but it didn't really feel like it was a true, it felt like it was really bad in the first first most of the first half up until Bama came back, and in the second half it was all dominated by Bama, but there was at least more enough up and downs to kind of keep you locked in. Going into Saturday, um, Miami and Texas AM. That game was an absolute slug fest. Uh Miami ended up winning that game 10 to 3. It was bad, man. It was just Texas AM was able to go up and down the field. The game was bad. It was a terrible game.

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It was a fucking snooze fest. I fell asleep during that game. It was awful.

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Terrible game.

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I woke up and it was close to ending. It was 10 to 3, and I was like, I was trash.

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It was so bad. It was a very windy day, apparently. It was like 20 to 30 mile per hour gust all throughout the game happening. And that messed up the passing as well as the kicking. I think um Texas, no, was it Texas or Miami? It was Miami's kicker. He missed like three different, he missed three out of four kicks that he had in that game. Um, all of them within decent yardage. Like they were all like 40 yards and unders. Like it wasn't like they were making him attempt 50-something yarders. He was getting some real short shots and he was missing them because of how bad the win was. But when it came to like going up, like Miami's offense did uh just enough. They had the one big drive there in the fourth quarter to kind of get them up seven to score the one touchdown that they scored in that game, and that was the difference in this game. But it just like Miami really couldn't score for the most part in this game. Uh, Carson Beck, 14 of 20 for 100 yards and a touchdown. Mark Fletcher, their running back, was definitely a workhorse for them, though. He had 17 carries for 172 yards. So like they were able to run the football pretty effectively, but almost felt like they should have ran more throughout the game because their passing game really wasn't working. Obviously, it was almost like a game plan where they were like, hey, Carson Beck, the quarterback, we played paid four million dollars to go from Georgia to us. Let's just not have you go out there and make any mistakes and let's just keep running the football and just hope we can kind of get the score when we need it. And they did, to their credit. Um, the biggest player for that Miami team in that game was Um, why am I forgetting the guy's name? It was Malachi Tony. He had a running back. It was like a wide receiver, he's a wide receiver, freshman wide receiver. Oh he had five catches, 22 yards, and a touchdown in that game.

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Saying how special he was coming in that he wasn't supposed to start, and he ended up forcing his way into a spot. Yeah, and he came in as like a 17-year-old. So he can't even came in and reclassified.

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Reclassified and all of it.

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He's what Ryan Williams is supposed to be.

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Yeah, no doubt. Um, but he came in, played very good in that game. He was like the only guy because he gave them he had a very good punt return that I think he just got tripped up like later at like in the red zone. That would have been a chance at a touchdown, but they didn't necessarily get that. But he had that, and then he had the touchdown run as well. And then I think he had a fumble in the middle of that game as well that he was like very he was like hurt over. You could tell he was like almost crying on the sidelines after making that mistake. But he they came back to him and he paid them off. He did very well in that moment when they gave him the chance to go out there and win the game for him, and they and they did what they had to do. AM, man, they went up and down the field all day long. Marcel Reid, their quarterback, I think he handled the elements a little bit better than Carson Beck. He went 25 of 39 for 237 yards, zero touchdowns, and two picks. The difference is as to why he has those two picks is he's just been inaccurate all year long. And he's been a very streaky type of passer. When he's on, he looks like he could be one of the better quarterbacks in all of college football. But when he's off, it doesn't look good. His pat he's his his accuracy issues are insane, insanely bad. And I think that was the biggest issue. I think coming out of that game, if they would have just had normal quarterback, just mediocre quarterback play, the way they were moving that football up and down the field, Texas AM would have won this game by multiple touchdowns. But unfortunately it didn't. Marcel Reed was their only guy, and they just weren't able to get the job done in this game. And it came down to even after Miami went up 10-3 later late on in that fourth quarter, I think it was like two minutes left, Anam got the ball back, and they were able to march all the way down the goddamn field. And then it came down to it, they had a couple plays in the red zone to try to go and score, and guess how the game ends? It's Marcel Reid trying to throw the ball to one of their wide receivers on a corner route to the inside, and he throws it behind him, and it gives the opening for the Miami defender to come up and get the pick to end the game. That was the difference. And I just think that if, and again, me I watched this game probably the most intently of all the Costwell playoff games in that first round because whoever wins this game goes and plays Ohio State in the I think the Cotton Bowl in Arlington. So I was more than happy to sit here and watch this game and be like, hey, these teams do not look all that great. But I will say, like, I think Miami is a better matchup, not necessarily a better matchup, but like I feel better about playing Miami than I do against Texas AM because first off, we'd have to play Tech CM in Texas. So I do think that would turn into an away game very fast instead of like a neutral sight game, um, like it would be against Miami. But also I think Tech CM offensively, I just think they have a little bit more consistency in a way that I don't I just don't think Miami has. So the way I looked at this game, neither team looked all that great. Miami came out of it. I will say both these teams play hard, they hit very hard, but there was not a lot of offensive type um offensive creativity. It was in the trenches, we're gonna hit hard, we're gonna run the football down your throat, and it Miami came out on top on that, which I give them a lot of credit for, but it's just I just don't see that game plan working against Ohio State. I just don't I just don't think that's gonna be the case. Unless they're like Miami's defense is so good they're gonna be able to hold Ohio State too, like Indiana did, but I just don't, even in that game where Ohio State was held to very little points, I think it was more about Ohio State not doing what they had to do rather than Indiana really forcing it.

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So I agree. I well, I think Indiana was opportunistic. They were, but they didn't fuck up in spaces most teams would fuck up.

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True.

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And they forced enough to where they were just staying ahead, which is what I think their game plan was just stay on top. Yeah. We don't have to try to win this game, we just have to make sure they can't come back in this game.

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But Ohio State had two opportunities in the red zone to go and score. All they had to do was score touchdowns, and Ohio State wins by multiple touchdowns. But they didn't. They didn't score those touchdowns, and they ended up going for a field goal on one of them just to tie the game, and they managed to miss that one. But like that was more than Ohio State than I think it was on Indiana, because I think Ohio State after the first half where they were getting fooled a little bit by what Indiana was trying to do defensively, and their defensive line was really getting after Ohio State's offensive line. As soon as he got comfortable in the game, he they really did start moving the football, and it is what it is. I just don't think as much as I think Miami has more physical talent than what a place like Indiana does, but they're just not a better coach football team.

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I don't think they're a better team. I think they're mid at best.

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No, no, I'm saying talent-wise when it comes to players. Like Miami is a top five talent roster in all of college football, but it's just their head coach is a fucking meathead. I don't look at him and say he's gonna be a he doesn't preach toughness. Like he preaches toughness, not necessarily playing smart football. And that's throughout their whole team. They don't really have a great offense, their defense is very like hey, we're gonna like just get after you. Our great players are gonna do what they have to do, but there's not gonna be a lot of trying to trickery or Anything like that when it comes to X's and O's, and that's where I feel very good about it because I think Ohio State can match the physicality of a place like Miami, and they can go and they have like a crazy mastermind in Ryan Day, and they have a mastermind on the defensive side of the football as well. So I'm just sitting there like that's where I think the difference can be, and that's why coming out of this game, as much as I think Miami does have some real monsters, it's just if you can just manage those monsters, not let them take over. I think Ohio State is a much better football team, and I think that's gonna be the way that goes. But that this game between Miami and Texas AM was definitely a slog fest, like you said. Put you to sleep type of game. I'm not gonna lie to you, it really was. But again, it was more it was more entertaining to watch than the last we have to talk about. You have Ole Miss Tulane, the game that you said had the group of five team had the best chance of actually pulling off the upset. Ole Miss wins the game 41 to 10. And then you have the other game, Oregon and James Madison. Oregon wins the game 51 to 34. And again, I will say James Madison did score like, let's see, 28 points in the second half, but this was after Oregon had already thrown in their second and third string guys. They literally were treating it like a like a non-con game with the start of the season. Like, hey, we got up our 38-40 points in the first half. We're gonna throw in our our backup dudes and kind of let them get some some um some play playing time here in a playoff game. Absolutely insane. Again, it looked bad on paper watching, seeing that James Madison had scored all those points in the second half. But when you really look at it, it really was Oregon kind of took their foot off the gas, let all their second and third string guys in, and they and James Madison was able to score a little bit to kind of make the game look closer. But it again, the game wasn't close the way it kind of played out. So here's what I'll so and then like I said, Ole Miss Tulane, they played each other earlier on this year. The game was 45 to 10 in that first matchup, ended up being 41 to 10 in the playoff matchup.

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So waste of fucking time.

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How pissed do you think Notre Dame is right now? Because it looked at how both of those games played out, and I think Notre Dame can have a real case of saying, hey, we probably can beat between those two games, we probably could beat all four beat all four of those teams that played in those games. Olmus and Tulane or Oregon and James Madison. Oregon probably beat the shit out of it. Or gonna be the hardest one, but I think Notre Dame would have a real chance to beat Oregon.

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I don't think so. Uh also go cry about it. Pussy, join a conference.

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I will say fuck you. Go join a conference, you fucking bitch.

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That I do partially agree with. That part is on you.

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If you join a conference, win your conference, and then don't make it, cool. You don't you're not in a conference. The only you played three ranked teams, only beat one of them.

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No, they it was two. They had they faced the two the two best games they played all year was the two games early against Miami and against Texas AM and they lost both games. Like I said before, all you have to do is win one of those games and you're in the playoff. Just win one of those games, you're in the playoff. And then if Texas wants to complain about the f all the all the shit too, don't lose to Florida. And you're in the playoff as well. So both of those teams really have not really for me, as much as I I I want to make this case that the group of five teams don't deserve to be in because of how these kind of games played out. I will say that the teams that would be vying for those spots instead, they obviously ruined their own chances, and I'm not gonna sit here and say that they got screwed over in this whole scenario, even if it didn't does mean that the teams that got in over them probably didn't deserve to be in. That's where I wanted to get to. The year that Cincinnati made it. Do you remember that year? Yes. Where Cincinnati led by Luke Fickle.

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In the um last it was a four-team.

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Yeah, so there was a lot of no, it wasn't the last year of the four team.

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No, it was a four, I didn't say it was.

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Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. Um, but it was a bunch of older guys playing at Cincinnati. A lot of them ended up being um NFL dudes. Like the there was a wide receiver that is still playing with the Colts now and doing some very good things. I think his I for I'm forgetting his name. You have the sauce gardener, and you have some like uh the quarterback. Like there was a lot of dudes that were playing, that there were older guys, they stayed at Cincinnati, they developed there, and they were like a talented enough football team, and they managed to make the run, and then guess what? They managed to be good enough to be in the top in the in the final four, and they made their way there. Did they get beat by the time they got there? Yeah, for sure. I think they faced Alabama in that first round. But there was no doubt in that scenario that they deserved to be in because they earned it on the football field, and they looked like a team that was worthy of a top four spot. Yeah, I agree. But when you look at what happened in this playoff, you have two teams that when they actually did the rankings, James James Madison was ranked number 24 in the actual rankings for when they did from one to 24, not having to think about the playoff. And then you had um Tulane that was was a little bit higher. I think they're like 17 or something like that. But both of those teams, because of the rules and the way they have it done now, and the um ACC fucking them almost their own selves over by having two teams that weren't even playoff worthy making their conference championship game, they made they made the committee made this decision to be like, hey, we're gonna stand on our we're gonna stand on what we were to say the rules are, and we're gonna pull it, bring in two of these group of five teams. Neither of these teams were good enough to make the playoff. Okay, and I'm not gonna sit here and say they don't deserve to have an opportunity to play in it at all because I just think that there are gonna be years where these teams are kind of built up and they really do have a special season to where if they're good enough to be in that spot, let them have that opportunity.

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You said it before, I was like, maybe it'd be fun to watch these teams make it in it. It's not, they're just gonna keep getting shit on by teams who are bigger and better. So I just think it's a waste of time.

SPEAKER_01: 46:27

I I just think there's there's times for special years. Like I get like I I met I cited that Cincinnati year because they were a group of five at the time, they have now joined the Big 12, so they they are they were like kind of like on the teetering, right? And Boise State every once in a while is gonna be up in that spot where they have an opportunity to make that type of run. But you know what's different is that a lot of teams, or at least in the group of five and stuff like that, are not gonna be able to build that way anymore because as soon as they're fucking good enough to go play on a power a power four roster, guess what's gonna happen? They're all gonna be calling saying, Hey, we want to bring you to such and such school, and we'll give you such and such amount of money, and they'll they'll hightail it out of there on the first train or the first plane to get to where they got to go to go get that cash. So, like, those teams do not have an opportunity to develop and really come together and be older players that are like more physically and mentally developed to be able to maybe I'm not gonna say totally bridge the gap, but at least mostly bridge the gap of being able to say, Hey, you may be more talented than I am, but I can beat you by knowing the game better and being more physically developed, to where it can just be a better football game in general. I just don't think those opportunities are gonna are gonna be nearly as plentiful because these players are gonna be on the first time that they're they look like they can be a player of that talent to go play for a Power Five school, they're gonna take them in the portal. And I just think that like you said, I just think that I think I was more on the keep them out all together. But I think even you've come around to the idea is like, hey, they're just tomato cans in the first round of the playoff that I just don't think it doesn't make a good TV product. And I think at the end of the day, we all have to understand that this whole playoff, as much as we all want to have it in our brains that, like, hey, they this is about finding the 12 best teams. This is about finding a good television product that people can watch, and then hopefully you have the best team winning at the in the end. And the same thing with March Madness. As much as we all cite that, it's basketball, it's a different sport, but it is a very good TV product at the end of the day, even if it comes with a few um upsets that can't happen. So I just think my main point is when I kind of talked with this, is that I just think shoehorning in a rule where you have to bring in a group of five team doesn't make any sense. I think they should have an avenue to get in if they're good enough, if they look like a top 12 team. But if you're not good enough, I just don't think you should force their way in because you don't want to get sued. And I truly think that's what it is. I I think there's the only reason that the playoff hasn't locked out the group of five teams altogether is because they're worried about getting sued over this whole thing and saying the group of five teams coming and saying, hey, we it's like an antitrust violation when it comes to just trying to lock out all those teams from having an opportunity. But if they just said fuck it and just are willing to get sued and just write the check, whatever the check ended up being, to those schools, I think you could have a lot better playoff, a whole playoff bracket when you have the just the 12 best teams, rather than having like all of this politicking and shit like that to try to get some teams in that don't deserve to be in in the first place. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04: 49:32

I just say I don't think you're wrong. What you were saying two years ago now makes a whole lot of sense. Watching the JMU game is a waste of fucking time.

SPEAKER_01: 49:40

I I tune into three minutes and I didn't have to watch those games. I went into the day knowing I'm gonna watch his first game with Miami and Texas AM, and then I can scoreboard watch the rest of the day and be fine. Yep. I watched them, I watch clips on the back end to kind of make sure at least get an idea of how those games went, but the games were fucking blowouts. Like I said, they look like like beginning of the year games when you're paying the teams a million dollars to come get their ass beat for a couple hours in your stadium. So just it just sucks that that was the way that some of those games had gone, but it's just, you know, hopefully they can figure out at some point to kind of get some just let's make a better way to do this. If a team is ranked in the top 12, put them in. If they're a group of five team, they're good enough, let them get in. I just don't think we should just shoehorn them in because of a rule because you're worried about getting sued. It doesn't it doesn't lead just just make this fucking simpler and just say, hey, the 12 best teams get into the playoff and let them duke it out. And I think more often than not, I think it'll work out the way it needs to. So I don't know. It's it was a weird football weekend because half the games really didn't fucking matter. But you know, I think there was a couple decent games to kind of come out of. So I'm glad we've got to talk about those. And the other ones you just get to say, uh, well, it it is what it is. So from there, and we're not gonna get too much into like the previews of the games. I just want to say what they're what the the round of eight is gonna be, the quarterfinals. So you got on New Year's Eve, you have Ohio State and Miami playing each other in the Cotton Bowl that is in Arlington. On New Year's Day, you have I think it's three games going on. Oh yeah, the other three going on. So you have at noon, you have Oregon and Texas Tech playing each other um in the Orange Bowl, and then at four o'clock, you have Alabama and Indiana playing each other at four uh for the Rose Bowl, and then you have Ole Miss and Georgia playing each other in the Sugar Bowl. So as we get closer to that, we'll I think next week we'll talk about those games and how we think those games are going to go. But I figured at least kind of mention them out there and see what those matchups are going to be, and we'll definitely get more into them next week when we want to um preview those games. So I this is the only other football, college football thing I wanted to talk about. Um because I wanted to wait on you to get your thought process on this.

SPEAKER_00: 52:06

Thought process.

SPEAKER_01: 52:08

Not thought process, just initial thoughts. The portal opens up in a few weeks. Would you like to hear the quarterbacks that are all gonna be in the portal? And these are all just quarterbacks, they haven't they're not necessarily in yet because you can't actually you can attend how do you look that up? I just look them up on two, four, seven sports. And I just um go to the transfer portal, and it's really the quarterbacks, those are like the biggest names as of right now. But here's this is these are quarterbacks that are going to have intentions to go into the into the portal. Brennan Soresby, who was the quarterback at Cincinnati, who was very good. Again, he doesn't he's not the biggest name out there, but if you've watched a lot of college football, he is uh definitely a really good quarterback out there. DJ Lagway, the Florida quarterback, in the portal. Dylan Rayola, the Nebraska quarterback, is also in the portal.

SPEAKER_05: 53:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 53:04

Um Byron Brown, who's from UCF, US USF, but he is a very talented quarterback that's going to be out there and he's gonna be in the portal. Rocco Beck, the quarterback from Iowa State.

SPEAKER_04: 53:14

They have Aiden Child and a four-star.

SPEAKER_01: 53:17

Yeah. The fuck? Chiles is in. Bo Prabula, the um Missous starting quarterback. He is back in the portal after he had just literally only been there for a year because he was at Penn State the year before, and he left Penn State during the playoff run to go to Missouri. So, like, you have some real big name quarterbacks going. I will say I will give Rocco Beck, the Iowa State guy, a little bit of credit. I think he's just following his head coach over to Penn State. I agree. So I think that one's a pretty easy done deal. But you have some real quarterbacks like all transferring to go somewhere else. Again, some for good reason because core because coaches are leaving and all that. But Dylan Rayola, the quarterback in Nebraska, they gave him two years worth of starting, and apparently he doesn't like how it's going, and he's gonna decide to transfer and go pick up a big bag and to maybe help his own quarterback stock, because let's be honest, he's been ass for two years.

SPEAKER_04: 54:10

Dude, we have so many players fucking leaving. Nick Marsh.

SPEAKER_01: 54:14

Nick Marsh is gonna be in the transfer portal.

SPEAKER_04: 54:16

Almost a five-star leaving the school.

SPEAKER_01: 54:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 54:20

He is going to be a dog wherever he goes.

SPEAKER_01: 54:23

And that's this is not including all the teams that are still in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_04: 54:26

Any players that are he's the number 10 doing the transfer. Just in case you're wondering.

SPEAKER_01: 54:33

And then all these, like I was about to say, all these players that are still in the playoff, they're gonna end up being in the portal too at some point. They're just still on a playoff run, so they're hoping that they get their seasons can keep extending. But there's gonna be players from those teams that are gonna be in the play in the portal as well.

SPEAKER_04: 54:48

I'm actually very surprised that the quarterback from Michigan is not leaving.

SPEAKER_01: 54:53

I think he's waiting on whatever their whole thing is gonna be. Because they haven't hired a head coach yet. They're potentially gonna just keep an interim coach and only keep him for a year. But here's the thing, it's just like if you're gonna do that, you have to give I just I don't I don't know. Apparently he's like, Oh, he's a people from he's from Ohio. Everybody's like, Ohio State's been looking at him since day one, and there was like a clip of him leaving the um leaving the field at Ohio State, and one of the Ohio State just like field staffers had a long conversation. Everybody is sitting there talking about, oh, that was a guy, he's a messenger from Ohio State, telling him, hey dude, once this all goes to shit, we're gonna give you a nice big bad come back home. It's a whole conspiracy, but I do think he's probably gonna end up back at Ohio State, as long as Ohio's just willing to pay to bring him back. So I do think we're we're gonna be losing a couple defensive ends um to the draft. So it is what it is on that. But I just think here's my thing. What do you think, what do you think your perfect scenario is for these for these players in the portal? Are you okay with everything going out how it is where all these players can go all willy-nilly? Would you be in favor of like how um European soccer does it where there's like a transfer fee? If you want to bring that player over from somebody else, you have to pay that team money. Or in the same way, if it's like breaking a contract for a coach, like, hey, there's a buyout where if a coach wants to leave early, they have the the team can force the like either the coach or the new team to pay the buyout to get them to break the contract. Are you in favor of that?

SPEAKER_04: 56:30

I think I don't hate the buyout fee, but that does make it hard sometimes for certain schools to want to have to be able to pay this player and pay the school.

SPEAKER_01: 56:42

I think there should be like the players should have But I think that that that saves the smaller schools, I think.

SPEAKER_04: 56:47

I I agree.

SPEAKER_01: 56:48

Because if you're gonna because if you're gonna lose this player that you've put a lot of money into and you've grow and you made them grow.

SPEAKER_04: 56:53

I agree, but I think it also has bigger school comes in, they have to pay for the things that do really well in the transfer portal. Yeah, it does. Michigan State of now we're we're gonna be even worse now. We can't get any transfers because now we have to pay them. I think it should be a Miss Nomer.

SPEAKER_01: 57:07

I think Michigan Michigan State has money.

SPEAKER_04: 57:09

I'm not saying they have Ohio State and Michigan money. Okay, cool. But y'all have money to pay. Again, but we've we've run into an SEC school who automatically just has more fucking money than we do, we're fucked. I think players should have to stay at each school for at least two years while playing. If a player goes two years without ever playing, they should be allowed to leave. I think each player should have to stay at each school for two years.

SPEAKER_01: 57:36

I like the buyout option because there are options fucking stupid. Because forcing a player to stay out of your school for a certain amount of time allows these coaches a way to lie to them.

SPEAKER_03: 57:44

I think it's stupid.

SPEAKER_01: 57:45

I I think the portal on in the good op in the good category for what the portal has brought, it has forced these teams to not just lie to these kids and say, hey, you're the best ever, and you come in, you don't play for three years, and the coach gets to lie to you and say, Hey, we thought you were gonna be a guy, but they never they never actually thought you were gonna be a starter at whatever school it is when Georgia was having five stars on top of five stars on top of five stars, and most of them you don't even see for multiple years until the guy in the five star in front of them leaves, right? I think it forces teams to be more honest. And I think it does even out the playing field a lot, but I just think for me, the way I look at it is I think the buyout option is very good because it helps out the smaller schools, at least if you're gonna be losing these kids that you're giving money to and all of that, and they're gonna keep taking your money, because again, these players aren't gonna be excited to give back the whatever money that you gave them once they decide to go in the portal, but at least if you get a fee for it and you at least get a decent amount of money, you can at least put that back into your program to either go give it go give to a different player that you want to get in the in the portal, or maybe give to the players that you that you have still on your roster. And then I also heard about a different thing, right? A different rule that I thought was kind of cool. I'll give I think it was Josh Pate the credit that he was kind of talking about is that if because of how like eventually how the um money is, is that if you get to a point where if you make the play if you do like collective bargaining and make the players actually have to sign real contracts, the contracts would be with the Big Ten and not necessarily with the schools. And that if you give them an incentive by that by saying, hey, this is the money you're gonna get automatically from the Big Ten once you decide to go to one of these schools, and then the longer that you stay, the more money you're gonna get from the Big Ten on top of whatever you're getting in NIL. So if you're a Jeremiah Smith, you're gonna get a certain amount of money from Ohio State right away, no questions asked. But then if you turn out to be the big player that you are, you can still get money on the side in NIL deals, endorsement deals, and stuff like that. But every year that you stay, the longer you stay at a school, the more money you're gonna get automatically, no matter who you are. So it just promotes a little bit of loyalty in a way where hey, if I go and Transfer now, I better be very certain about this because not only will there potentially be a buyout that either I have to pay or the school that's getting me will have to pay, but it'll also reset me to where I won't be able to get the pay bump that I would get if I would become a second or third year player at the same school that I decided to go to in the first place. I then will lose out on that pay bump that I would automatically get, no matter if I'm a star or not. I just think if you to kind of like add those two things in there, I think it would just promote a lot of players not making just the one decision to make a bigger back somewhere else, because I do think you'd be losing a little bit. But I just think you just have to give a little bit of like a give them a chance to think about it. It's like, hey, if I can just stick it out a little bit longer here, maybe I can like it'll make me a better player, or it'll just make me to where I'm not gonna sit here just being a four-year guy, a four-year college player going to a different school practically every year. I just feel like you just need to get rid of that a little bit because I just think that one of the lifebloods of one of the things that makes college sports so crazy, so good, is that you at you as a fan can get attached to these players because they're at your school. Not only are you following them when they're getting recruited as high schoolers to your school, but then you get to kind of see them grow as they're becoming a freshman and they're sitting on the bench to where they're getting becoming sophomores, getting playing time, or becoming starters, and you get to see them for two or three years play at your school and really grow and develop, not only as a as a player, but as a human. And I do think that kind of lead like lends itself into what maybe you can get out of college sports in a way that you don't get out of the NFL because the NFL is a lot more transactional. And again, you do get a chance to be attached to to like the superstar players that get to stay at a one team for most of their careers. That those are the players you kind of can attach yourself to, the Joe Burroughs, the Mahomeses, and all that. But I just think that in college, I think you have a lot more of that. And I think you if you can get that used to be a bigger deal, but if you can get a little of that back into the sport, I think it'll just make it make the sport a lot better from start to finish. I know Jason really care because his team just hasn't been that good, but I just think that once Michigan State figures it out, I think that some of these things I'm talking about would help you as well, even if you're it's not gonna lead to you, no, you know, being in the national title hunt every year like it does for some schools. But that's all I got. That's all the college trouble I wanted to talk about today. Let's go ahead and get to the NFL because there's plenty to talk about there. Um, let's get to it. So when it comes to what our records were for last week, Jace destroyed me once again. Yes! You're gonna try when it came to our picks. Call some good games, maybe win some fucking bets. I went 9-7. Jace went 11-5. Again, I think next year we should do it with the spread. Not destroying. I'm not doing that shit. It makes it harder on both of us.

SPEAKER_04: 1:02:47

It's pretty fucking easy for Jace.

SPEAKER_01: 1:02:49

Yeah, because I I got behind, and then I keep wanting to take chances in a way, and then chances never work for me. It hasn't, again, been a bad year for your boy.

SPEAKER_04: 1:02:58

So you we're in good casino and you're gonna be broke.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:01

Yeah, maybe. Um, I went nine and seven, Jace went 11-5. Overall, I am 138.87 and one. Jace is 146.29 and one. So Jace is about eight games ahead of me as of right now.

SPEAKER_07: 1:03:15

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_01: 1:03:16

And that's how that goes. So let's go ahead and get to the recap of those NFL games and go from there. So let me get to the scores here, and we'll start from the top. So we'll start with the Saturday games. Um, go how go with those games there. So Saturday, Eagles Commanders was the first game. Eagles won the game 29-18. This game was pretty much a route. Hertz had a great game. I think when I talked about on the pod last week, I said that because of how bad the Washington defense is, is that this is a game where the offense for the Eagles can kind of get back together. They can like sit there and feed all their dudes, everybody can eat, everybody can kind of get into it, and they can kind of come out of here with a win and kind of at least have some good vibes. Again, does beating Washington mean anything for your team, like really give you any confidence? Probably not. But I think with the way this Eagles team has has looked throughout the year, it has never been about talent, it has been all about the vibes of their team being off with players not being happy, with some players wanting the offense to be better, you know, AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, and not necessarily being as cool with Jalen Hurts because of how the offense has been. But in this game, it didn't really matter. Jalen Hurts, 22 of 30, 185, two touchdowns. Saquon Barkley, he got to eat against Washington. 21 carries, 132 yards and a touchdown. AJ Brown, nine catches, 95 yards. Devontae Smith, six catches, 42 yards and a touchdown. Dallas Goddard, three catches, 32 yards and a touchdown. So, like, all of their big players offensively got to eat. And then defensively for the Eagles, they were facing off against a Marcus Mariota-led Washington team that didn't even play all that long because he ended up getting hurt with a head injury and didn't manage to. I think it was a head injury or a wrist or something like that. He didn't even come back. Marcus Mariota's 7-14 for 95 yards, didn't do really do anything before he had to leave the game. And then his backup was Josh Johnson once Marcus went out.

SPEAKER_04: 1:05:13

He's still in the inner Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:05:15

Five of nine for 43 yards and a pick. So Washington didn't do practically anything in this game, especially once Marcus Mariota had left the game. They did score a little bit in the second half. I think in the fourth quarter, they scored eight points to make the game look a little bit closer, but this game was a route from start to finish. Um, Chris Rodriguez Jr., the running back for Washington, played fine. 15 carries, 63 yards, and a touchdown. Um Krosky Merritt, the other running back for them, also had a touchdown. But again, like I said, this was just a tune-up game for the Eagles where as long as they took care of business, they were able to win that game without much of an issue. Next game, the other game on Saturday. Um, very good game. Bears-Packers. Bears win the game 22-16, ending it off with a bomb from Caleb Williams to DJ Moore in overtime. I think it was like a 46-yard touchdown that he threw was a total bomb down the field to win that game. But this game for the most part was dominated by Green Bay. Like, so early on in the game, Green Bay was the only honestly, neither team was really doing a lot offensively, but Green Bay was doing a tad bit better. Jordan Love didn't even play, I think he left by halftime because he had a concussion. He was 8 of 13 at the time for 77 yards. But I will say, Malik Willis' backup came in and I think even played even better than what Jordan Love was playing before he had gotten hurt. Malik Willis, 9 of 11, 121 yards and a touchdown. Um, and then Malik Willis also added another 44 yards on the ground off 10 carries, so like he adds a little bit of an element with his running ability that I think Jordan Love doesn't even have. But like for the most part, the Packers were leading this game. In the first quarter, nobody scored, but like the Packers scored six points in the second quarter, seven in the third. Um, and then in the fourth, I think they had a 16, I think a 16-point lead, 13-point lead. And then they let Chicago score 13 points in the fourth quarter to come back and tie the game. And with how the tie even happens, they managed to get a um onside kick converted. Because I think it was hold on, let me make sure I have this right here when I say it. So in the fourth quarter, it was the Bears had hit a field goal to make the game 16 to 9. And then they went for an onside kick that was touched by Green Bay, totally touched, and then it ended up being a fumble, and then Chicago was able to jump on it because that was a gift totally given to them by Green Bay. Um, but after that, Chicago still had to go down the field and um still goes down the field and score another 10 points in order, sorry, eight points in order to get the game, sorry, set another touchdown to get the game tied up with Green Bay. And then in over time, man, they just Chicago managed to come back. And I will say that the way this game was going, it was all dominated by the Packers. They managed to do what they had to do. And Chicago, for all the shit that I've given about um Caleb Williams not being all that great and being inconsistent, he played fine in this game. You pick yes, you pick Chicago, so I'm like, I have to catch up, so I had to pick, I had to pick Green Bay. I think if Jordan Love played the whole game, I think they would have won that game. I don't think it was an awful split for me to take, you know? Um Caleb, 19-34, 250 yards. He's still inaccurate at times, but when he hits Yeah you pick Seattle. I had to do something. I'm trying to catch up. That seemed like a good spot to have a split. Um, I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. Um Caleb, inaccurate, but when he made the big plays, he was able to do so. Um he was able to extend plays with his feet when he was able to. He made the big passes he when he needed to. DJ Moore and him are definitely getting a rapport together where they're really making a lot of big plays together. And this is without them even having some of the big like they were missing the who was the one wide receiver that they drafted.

SPEAKER_04: 1:09:30

Romadunze, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:09:30

Romadunze. He wasn't able to play in this game. And they were also missing another wide receiver as well. So like they were missing some of their weapons they still manage, even though the game was shit for most of it. Chicago was given an opportunity to come back in the game, and they did. They played great. Caleb played great, especially when they needed the biggest pass. He went out there and made it an overtime to go ahead and win the game. And some Chicago fans are talking about how this is like the best win that they have seen in like 20 years. So like this is a team that has dealt with a lot of downs that kind of like the the Don't say it. The Browns of the NFC.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:05

Yeah, but it's not.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:08

No quarterback play, not good quarterback play for most of them.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:10

Have you watched the Bears go 0-16? Ooh, no, I haven't. Have you watched them go 0-16 twice? No. And then be dumb and be like, I want to draft Johnny Manzo. They've never done that. They did draft Jay Cutler, though. And real quick, Jay Cutler had a golden arm. Yeah, but hey, with it. Jay Cutler made Pro Bowls.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:36

And he had an NFL, he had a long-standing NFL career. Didn't do a lot of winning, but he did have a good career.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:41

But that boy can sling a football. For sure. I agree. He had a golden arm. He probably had one of the best arms you will ever see.

SPEAKER_01: 1:10:47

And that's what annoyed the Bears fans the most, is that he was so good. What are you doing? What are you doing? Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04: 1:10:52

No, but again, the Bears have always made good decisions. That just don't always work out. Right. The Browns make bad decisions knowing it's a bad decision, and then are surprised it don't work out.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:01

So the Bears were a good organization with some bad luck. Browns are just terrible. Yeah, it's a difference. I can okay, I can get behind that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:11:08

I will give the Bears the credit of you're trying, and then it's like a 50-50, it works out. Right, yeah. The Browns are not trying. My bad. They're trying, actively making bad decisions, and then are surprised it didn't work out. Yeah, no doubt. And it's like everybody told you not to do that. Why did you give Deshaun Watson money? Everyone said don't do that. Totally guaranteed money, too.

SPEAKER_05: 1:11:33

And it's it fucked you. So now it's dog shit. Um dog shit. He is dog shit. Uh he is dog shit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:44

Um no. It's not dog shit, maybe a little.

SPEAKER_00: 1:11:49

He had three picks.

SPEAKER_01: 1:11:50

That was the week before, but last week, this past game against the um the Bills, he didn't play bad.

SPEAKER_04: 1:11:57

Okay, hold on. I went through. I watched the Cam Luton podcast. I I don't always like watching this podcast because it's like he's just chatting shit sometimes. But he broke down Shador's picks. He was like, one of them was Jerry Judy's fault. It was.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:12

I can believe that. Jerry Judy is like a not necessarily the most famous of players because he does some stupid shit.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:17

He hit he hit Jerry Judy on the numbers. Yeah. He did. And the DB just went and went back that way. Yeah. One was like a tit pass. Those happened. Okay, you were kind of focused on one receiver, and they just the alignment just jumped up.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:33

Okay. I can let that one slide.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:35

Sure.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:36

One, you under threw a football. That was your fault. One was hit was a rookie mistake.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:40

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:41

The other two were one was Jerry Judy's fault.

SPEAKER_01: 1:12:44

Right.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:44

The other one was you were kind of zoned in on one guy a little too hard and they just kind of caught you.

SPEAKER_00: 1:12:49

True.

SPEAKER_04: 1:12:50

But again, I they weren't one was bad. The other two weren't your fault. Tip passes happen. Yeah. They happen to everybody. Happened to JoePro three times in a game, too. So you know. But I don't I don't think he's dog shit. But I think he will never be better than an okay starter.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:08

Of he's not a guy you have to actively think about replacing, but a guy that you, if you were to get a better opportunity, you'd go for it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:16

You know, potentially have a chance with the at a top five pick to get a quarterback? You'd you'd you'd you'd go for it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:22

But you know what should we be great in? He'd be a great Niners quarterback.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:27

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:28

He'd be a fire Niners quarterback. No, he wouldn't. He wouldn't listen to Shanahan at all.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:32

Yeah, he has a little too much, a little too much personality. My bad. A little too much personality.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:35

He would not be because you know listen to this Kyle Shanahan enough.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:39

He did the watch thing too many times and Kyle Shanahan would be ready to rip his head off.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:42

Go sit down. I'll get Mac to do it. That's so fussy. Brock Purdy, did he make the Pro Bowl? I don't personally care, so don't look. Yeah, okay. I don't care. Yeah. I I'm not gonna watch it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:13:54

He missed too many games. He definitely did not. Like, I'm not gonna watch it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:13:57

He missed like eight games with Turf Toe. I don't know. Again, I'm not gonna watch the Pro Bowl. I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:02

I don't care. I'll I'll watch the clips of like the the um the little like challenges they do. Other than that, I'm not gonna actually watch it.

SPEAKER_04: 1:14:09

That is not coming on my TV.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:11

Again, it's more it's for fun to watch in clips because it's just flag football out there. Guys, you know, crazy athletes and good quarterbacks making great plays.

SPEAKER_04: 1:14:19

Bring me back to 2012 where I watched Sean Taylor almost kill a punter.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:23

No, for sure. Bomb that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:14:24

I agree. I miss that of he came downfield with a vengeance for no reason. God, that was great. That was football. Of this means nothing. You do not if you win this game, it does nothing for you.

SPEAKER_01: 1:14:38

You know what's crazy when Sean Taylor did that, people were looking at him and being like, hey, dude, that might have been a little too far. Because I think that was it was more than people, players were in on the like the hey, we're not trying to get hurt out here. We're trying to fuck that. And he went out there and did something crazy, and everybody's like, What are you doing? Yeah, no doubt. Dude, we're not we're never going back there.

SPEAKER_04: 1:15:00

I wish I could just see a receiver come over the middle and Ryan Clark go kill his ass. I fucking love that. That shit was great.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:08

That's not happening in the regular games anymore, let alone the Pro Bowl. Definitely not in the Pro Bowl.

SPEAKER_04: 1:15:14

Ain't he the reason for the defenseless receiver rule?

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:17

No. I believe he is. Talking about we can talk about like the Steelers' defense of that time being the reason for the rule. But like I don't think you can really put it on any specific player at all. While you're looking up whatever you're looking up, I just want to just cap off the Caleb Williams part.

SPEAKER_04: 1:15:36

Nope, it was him. The rule was enforced because of him. The NFL felt like he unfairly targeted defenseless receivers over the middle of the field. Barbadum, that is what is being told to me.

SPEAKER_01: 1:15:52

Okay, that's what it is.

SPEAKER_04: 1:15:53

That this nigga was causing CTE. He always led with the crown of his helmet. Uh but like in a part of my heart that was football. Watching somebody come over the middle. Especially Wells Wells Welker.

SPEAKER_07: 1:16:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:16:13

They were throwing him to the wolves. Every team threw him to the wolves. Hey man, Cass is over. It was always over the middle. And one of those balls, it was always such a pretty ball, too. It was always a great throw in football.

SPEAKER_01: 1:16:26

See, that's where the difference is, is I think Tom Brady, even though I hate watching him call games, it's like insanely bad. I will give him this credit. He has always been a proponent of we are giving, we are putting too much of the blame in the hands of the defenders. When you also put blame blame on the quarterback because they're throwing hospital balls. Your boy Bo Bo Nicks. That boy throws hospital balls. He threw a hospital ball to their to their fret to their rookie wide receiver and got the dude sent to the hospital. He threw a terrible hospital ball that got him literally knocked out right away. They had to put him on a stretcher and get him to the hospital.

SPEAKER_04: 1:17:03

And I'm like, I don't blame you. You know who was really bad at throwing hospital balls? Peyton fucking Manning.

SPEAKER_01: 1:17:12

Peyton Manning was better at the bladder part of his career by not doing that, for sure.

SPEAKER_04: 1:17:18

He got Wes Welker murdered in preseason. You've seen that hit. Wes Welker got No! Long ball down the sideline. Guess who was fucking against? The Steelers. Bro throws a long ball down the sideline. Wells Welker goes for it. Plays out like this. Smack out for the season. That was the last game he played in his career. Because Peyton Manning got that motherfucker killed.

SPEAKER_01: 1:17:45

West Walker played well after that. The Colts wasn't the last team he played for. No!

SPEAKER_04: 1:17:53

That was the Broncos!

SPEAKER_01: 1:17:56

He got him killed on the Broncos. Oh, that was in the playoffs. That wasn't in the preseason. That was in the playoffs. I'm pretty sure that that was the case. It was in the playoffs that West Walker had played his last game with the Broncos. And he got, it was a very competitive time. They're trying to make a play. He ends up getting hurt. All that. But I I I just don't put that on Pate mainly he threw hospital balls on time, but he really didn't. I think he was very smart about placing the ball in the right spot to help his wide receivers out. And my point was with Brady, too.

SPEAKER_04: 1:18:28

I just think that there's a 17-minute video of him throwing hospital balls. Are you sure?

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:35

He also played in a different NFL.

SPEAKER_04: 1:18:37

17 minutes.

SPEAKER_01: 1:18:38

They were allowed to hit players more.

SPEAKER_04: 1:18:40

17 minutes. That's a lot of passes. Joe, 17 minutes is not a short video. That's a long form video. 17 minutes. I'm aware. Bro, I the first one's Peyton Manning. The first comment is Peyton Manning special.

SPEAKER_05: 1:19:01

Joe, you're wrong. You're avidly wrong. You're like oh here, yeah, it's Peyton Manning. And Dead Man.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:16

Hold on, my captions are on.

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Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:20

Oh, that was a whole different video. That was tricky.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:25

That doesn't go. Look at him. Look at it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:32

That's not a hospital ball.

SPEAKER_02: 1:19:33

Okay.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:36

That's not a hospital ball. That's on the defender. That's not a hospital ball.

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Dead man.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:44

Go ahead. Show me. That definitely was not a hospital.

SPEAKER_02: 1:19:53

Dead man.

SPEAKER_01: 1:19:54

Not a hospital ball. That's on the defender. You are leading him into a fucking defender. He was that he that him playing it with the Broncos that is during a time where wide receivers have that protection where you cannot do that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:20:08

That's the Colts jersey.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:09

That was a Broncos. He had a Broncos jersey on when that play happened right there.

SPEAKER_04: 1:20:13

That's the Broncos jersey? That's a Colts jersey, dumbass. Oh, that's a dead man.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:22

A hospital ball is throwing one right in the middle of the gosh darn field, not going past the six, not outside the numbers. It is in the middle of the field where the linebackers usually are sitting. When you're sitting, you're like, hey, this is a guy. I'm throwing a short route.

unknown: 1:20:36

I found it.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:37

I'm throwing a short route to this guy, and he's about to get destroyed.

SPEAKER_03: 1:20:43

Not that one. This one, okay. This is a whole different one.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:45

That's not even a hospital ball.

SPEAKER_04: 1:20:46

No, I just probably shouldn't have thrown that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:20:49

That's the stealer. That's Tebow. That's a lefty, my boy. Oh, my bad.

SPEAKER_04: 1:20:56

That uh that's James Harrison. Yes. That hit was unnecessary. Flacco was bad at the hospital ball. But still, bro, Peyton Manning threw a f oh found it. I fucking found it. Not this one.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:14

That's it. It's not Peyton. Not a hospital ball.

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This one is.

SPEAKER_01: 1:21:25

Not a hospital ball. That's not a hospital ball. You were leading your receiver into a fucking defender to fucking hide the ball. We are throwing it outside the sticks, outside the line, outside the numbers, down the sideline. That is not a hospital ball. Because the wide receiver has protection to where a safety cannot do that. That's why it's not a hospital ball. A hospital ball is doing it right now.

SPEAKER_04: 1:21:48

A poorly thrown pass that put the receiver in a dangerous position to take a massive hit. That's a hospital ball, is what he just did. That was not a bad thing that that receiver had to go out there to go get that ball. He just thought it was a poorly thrown ball that put the receiver in a defenseless position to take a massive hit. Hospital ball. That's not a that was a we're just have to agree to disagree.

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:08

That's not a hospital.

SPEAKER_04: 1:22:08

No, there's no agree to disagree. By definition, you're fucking wrong. You're fucking wrong. You're fucking wrong. There's no agree to disagree. You're fucking wrong. How do we agree to disagree if you are blatantly wrong?

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:22

Because when you look at a Because what?

SPEAKER_04: 1:22:24

You're wrong? No. Oh, by definition, you're wrong.

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:27

Okay, but if we didn't see it, and that was not a hospital ball.

SPEAKER_04: 1:22:32

It was a poorly thrown ball that made his receiver defenseless.

SPEAKER_01: 1:22:37

When the ball is thrown out to the numbers down the sideline, you a wide receiver has protection to where they should be able to be able to catch a football without getting destroyed.

SPEAKER_04: 1:22:46

Unless the ball is poorly thrown. That's what makes it a fucking hospital ball. That's the definition. A poorly thrown ball that makes the receiver defenseless. The ball was overthrown, making him defenseless. It's an overthrown ball. Bad timing and bad positioning is what makes it a hospital ball.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:06

That was a goal ball down the field. There is no such thing as that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:23:10

A gold ball is where the ball hits him in stride. He put it-that ball is not gonna hit him in stride because it was overthrown. But there's variation hospital ball. He was laying out to go get that bull ball.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_04: 1:23:24

So it was an overthrown bull ball, and it makes it a hospital ball. Whatever the fuck you're about to say is wrong. Everything that I just looked up is telling you you're fucking wrong. What are you about to say to me that's gonna change the fact you're wrong?

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:41

I'm not wrong.

SPEAKER_04: 1:23:42

Oh, so the definition's wrong then, right? The ball with the moment you're talking about in a bad position.

SPEAKER_01: 1:23:50

That is on the that is on the sideline up a hospital ball is where you have an opportunity to make a different throw that helps your wide receiver out when the wide receiver is going across the field in the middle of the field.

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:00

And you're throwing pass that puts the receiver in a dangerous position to take a massive hit, often unavoidable hit from a defender, leading a seriously injury, hence hospital ball. It is characterized by bad ball placement, timing, or trajectory, giving the receiver no chance to get spraced or evade the hit unlike a go placed pass in the left. It happens in the middle of the field.

SPEAKER_01: 1:24:19

That happens in the middle of the field, not on a go ball down the side of the middle.

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:24

No, that is down the side of the left and defense list! It is left him defense list, which means it's a fucking hospital. But they if he can defend himself, by definition, it's a fucking hospital ball. What are you talking about? How are you you are adamantly wrong? The definition says you're wrong. Everything in the video says you're wrong. What the fuck are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01: 1:24:53

I know what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:55

You're clearly not, you're wrong.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_04: 1:24:57

Is the definition not saying you're wrong?

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:00

That definition is very vague and it is definitely not vague.

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:03

Here, we can go into detail. I can pull up the fucking notes it brings at the bottom. Key characteristics, bad placement, throwing to a spot where the defender is waiting, forcing the receiver to catch catch it right as they hit, like happened in the video. In the middle of the field timing, poor timing, delivering late, making the receiver twist awkwardly to reach for the ball of the field. Leaving them vulnerable. It does not have to be in the middle of the field to be a fucking hospital ball.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:29

It's considered in the middle of the field because you have to be a big thing.

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:31

It doesn't have to be in the middle of the field to be considered a hospital ball. Why the fuck would that be a thing?

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:35

Because you don't have the same protection in the middle of the in the past in the middle of the field you do on the sideline.

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:39

Clearly had no protection on the fucking sideline. He got blown up by the fucking safety.

SPEAKER_01: 1:25:43

Because that's off the that's off that's off of the safety making a bad safety is not allowed to make a hit like that on the sideline like that, in the in the same way you are in the middle of the field. What the fuck are you talking about?

SPEAKER_04: 1:25:54

They would do it all the time. You watch your team do it all the fucking time. That is How are you fucking wrong?

SPEAKER_01: 1:26:02

That is a different time of the NFL.

SPEAKER_04: 1:26:04

You are saying this, dude. You are saying you are right while everything is telling you you're wrong. I have read the whole fucking definition that tells you you're wrong. And you're still saying you're right. When by definition, you're fucking wrong. You are fucking wrong.

SPEAKER_05: 1:26:23

By definition, it doesn't say it has to be in the uh middle of the field. It's you're wrong.

SPEAKER_04: 1:26:30

You're wrong. You are wrong. Everything is saying you're wrong. It doesn't say it has to be in the middle of the field. You're wrong. You're wrong. Like I don't know what else to tell you. It gives you all the key characteristics, the essence, and it gives you everything. You're wrong. How are you saying you're right when it's telling me you're wrong? I it I read it out loud, it's saying you're wrong. Unless I can no longer read, it's telling me you're wrong. Are you going to now argue with the definition?

SPEAKER_01: 1:27:13

I don't want to argue at all. I don't want to get to the rest of the games we have to do with the top. I wasn't impressed about this whole thing. I wasn't impressed about like as impressed about it as you are to try to prove somebody wrong or not.

SPEAKER_04: 1:27:49

You're saying you're right about something. Even though it's telling it's you saw it, it's you're saying you're wrong. It's saying you're wrong. Everything about it's saying you're wrong. So how are you right? How are you gonna tell me you're right when it's telling me you're wrong?

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:12

I don't I don't even want to go down because we're just gonna go back in the same circle again.

SPEAKER_04: 1:28:15

There's no circle to go in, you're wrong. If it's saying you're wrong, how are you trying to argue your point when your point is wrong? I've proven it to be wrong. I have skipped all the other bullshit, looked it up, it's saying you're wrong. But you're still trying to prove a point even though it's already shown that you were wrong.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:40

Because some of those plays you were talking about are ones where wide receivers have the protection of not getting hit like that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:28:49

If if they are defenseless down the sideline because they're trying to catch the ball, they're still defenseless down the sideline.

SPEAKER_01: 1:28:53

No, it's a it's a go ball. Okay, it's a go-ball down the sideline where both players have to have Yeah.

SPEAKER_04: 1:28:58

So did the receiver still get the bigger side.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:01

Like I said, they want to go down this road because we're gonna go to that kind of circle.

SPEAKER_04: 1:29:03

What you're saying is still fucking wrong.

SPEAKER_01: 1:29:05

No, because if you're throwing a ball in the middle, no, if you're throwing, I'm talking about a hospital ball. You are throwing a ball, overthrowing a guy, making him extend his body, and then you have a somebody in the middle of a linebacker or a safety coming in to try to break the ball up without giving that wide receiver not a chance to be able to protect himself. Because that is a you're considering a bang bang play where a time, if you can if you had the right timing or if you had the right placement, that wide receiver has a chance to not get hit like that. On a goal ball down the sideline, the timing in placement aren't because you're throwing it down, you're throwing it 50 yards down the field or 40 yards down the field. And wide receivers have the protection that they don't have in the middle of the field.

SPEAKER_04: 1:29:50

He did not have the it does not matter if the ball is poorly thrown and the timing is wrong, to where he has to speed up or slow down to go get the goal ball, it leaves him then defenseless. But which makes it a hospitable for him to take a hitch.

SPEAKER_01: 1:30:03

And with how with what the what I'm talking about, the no with the rules of the more modern game, not the Steelers I'm talking what you're talking about, where they were allowed to do whatever they wanted. But it but they like what I'm saying, they have the protection because they're not they literally is against the rules where they are safety are taught you cannot hit players like that where you get automatic ejections or you get 15 yards, like all those things you easily get thrown out of the game for.

SPEAKER_04: 1:30:29

Don't say you're still fucking right.

SPEAKER_00: 1:30:31

It's you're sort of doing that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:30:43

Okay. I can go through the rest of the game by myself if you're really that upset about it. That's why I said I didn't want to go back through it because we're just gonna go in the same circle.

SPEAKER_04: 1:30:51

There's no way to do. By definition, we're wrong. If the ball is poorly placed, no matter where it is on the field, it it can become a hospital. Because now there's you rather do something different to try to catch the ball than what was intended by the play. Remember the floor to open up like Miami. Open play with the safety instead of the way it's ball against the receiver.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:27

Miami and Texas AM?

SPEAKER_04: 1:31:29

No. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:32

No, I don't remember any of the play in particular now. I don't I don't know.

SPEAKER_04: 1:31:35

There's one play during one of their ball games where the receiver Oh you talk a long time ago.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:43

Oh, I I definitely remember that.

SPEAKER_04: 1:31:46

It was not a hospital ball. The ball was on the die.

SPEAKER_01: 1:31:51

Uh huh.

SPEAKER_04: 1:31:52

That's not a hospital ball. The ball that was thrown, that was shown in that video, was overthrown outside of his range where he had to speed up and basically dive to go get it. Yeah, but that that it becomes a hospital.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:03

That safety is not allowed. That if that safety goes beyond what the rules are to hit a player like that, that is not a hospital ball because the safety went well beyond the rules of the game.

SPEAKER_04: 1:32:12

In that game, that safety was not reject uh ejected. Do you know why? Because how he hit him. He didn't leave with the crown of his helmet, he hit him with the shoulder. He wasn't ejected. That's still a little illegal hit. That was from a couple years ago. That's not from a couple of years.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:28

That was a Peyton Manning play. What are you talking about? Peyton Manning with the with the Colts?

SPEAKER_04: 1:32:32

No, the Broncos.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:35

Even with the Broncos, that was back in 2018, 2019.

SPEAKER_04: 1:32:42

2016.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:43

2016.

SPEAKER_04: 1:32:44

That's even like those rules have been in place since fucking before that.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:47

No, they there's been more and more protections as you know the league is literally a year, a yearly thing, how player players can't get a grid because everything's faster, interference is called, and players are given so much protections now because they the league, they everybody says league has gotten softer.

SPEAKER_04: 1:33:16

The definition is telling you you're wrong.

SPEAKER_01: 1:33:18

Look, I I can we I I want to get past this. I want to go to the rest of the rest of the games. Bills Browns, Bills win 23-20. You were talking about Sanders in this game, wasn't that bad. 20-29, 157 in a touchdown. Um Shadow Sanders was also the leading rusher. They did lead uh lose Quinch on Judkins in this game. He managed to tear, it was like a very gruesome injury, tear his ACL and broke his ankle all in one play. Very bad. He ended up getting surgery. Hopefully he'll be back sooner rather than later in the next year or so. Um honestly, this is a game where the Browns should not have been in this game at all, but the Bills just did not bring their A game. Um Josh Allen, 12 of 19, 130 yards. James Cook was the superstar for them in this game. 16 carries, 117 yards, two touchdowns. Ty Johnson also had a touchdown, uh rushing touchdown in this game. Uh it was just, it just felt like the defense that the Bills were playing, they were not trying to push it. They were going to inch their way down the field the way they needed to, run the football effectively. Um, Josh Allen, I mean, yeah, Josh Allen did get nicked up in this game, had a little bit of an injury thing, but he managed to get out of it without much of an issue. Um you have, and then also in this game, I wanted to talk about injury. Talk about Shador not being all that bad. He did throw the 157, one touchdown, two picks. So the picks were not necessarily all that great, but I think it all in all, I think the Browns showed out and I think they actually played a decent game. They were at home, though. So I do have to give them that credit there that they that the Browns were able to at least play a competitive football game, even if it meant the Bills weren't necessarily playing as great as they probably could have in that game. Um Miles Garrett also is I think he's like a sack away from breaking the sack record. So he is more like definitely assuredly going to break that record in the next couple games that he plays. He does play the Steelers this upcoming Sunday, so it's just gonna be so fitting that the the fan base and the fan base that gives him so much crap over the years, not just the crap, because I think he does this, he puts that little bit of that on himself with how he has talked at times. But the team, the fan base that hates him more than anybody, and they compare him to their own guy, see uh TJ Watt, me being a part of the fan base, of course. It's only going to be fitting that he breaks the record that TJ Watt tied a few years ago, and he just totally breaks it all together, the owner owned the record by himself to be the what is it, the the the leader of sacks in a foot the record for sax in a football season by defensive end. He will be not just defense, but just sacks in a season. He will be the leader of that. And he might do it against the Steelers in their house. And I think it'll be kind of funny how fitting that would be for that moment to happen against the Steelers and the fans and all that. Um, next game, Chargers, Cowboys, Chargers win the game 34 to 17. Herbert was awesome in this game, 23 of 29, 300 yards, two touchdowns, zero picks. I think this might be the time where he's probably playing his best football he's played in a while. It's not his most explosive football he has played, but I think it is the best combination of he's making the right reads, he's making the big boy plays and like getting out to the pocket and running down the field. He's dealing with a broken hand at broken, I think broken bones in his hand, on his opposite, not his throwing hand, but his opposite hand. He's also playing through that. So he's playing tough. He's making the big plays when necessary. It's not always most explosive, but when they need him to, he is able to go out there and make the plays that they need to to go ahead and win. Um they ran the football effectively in this game. Umario and Hampton leading back, 16 carries, 85 yards, and a touchdown. Herbert also had a rushing touchdown this game with off of eight carries and 42 yards. Um Quentin Johnson actually had his best game that he's had in a little while. He's kind of had a he started off the season really hot and then kind of went in a lull a little bit. But in this game, he played well, four carries, four catches, 104 yards and a touchdown. The um rookie wide receiver, Trey Harris for them had a decent game, four catches, 54 yards. Keenan Allen had a five catches of 44. Loud McConkey had a touchdown catch with four receptions and 43 yards. And it was just a bunch of other guys just kind of getting involved. Will Desley had a couple of catches, another um young receiver for them, Keandre Lambert Smith. Hampton had a catch. Gatson, their tight end also had also had a catch. So like they were just distributing the football a lot to a lot of different players on that Chargers offense, and they went out there and did what they had to do, especially in that fourth quarter where they're like the third and fourth quarter, they scored the 13 unanswered to really pull away from the Cowboys in the second half. Um, Cowboys, offense, again, this is the thing with the Cowboys all year long. Their offense is the better part of their team, their defense, even though they've kind of started playing better as of recently, that it's just in this game, they just did not have the horses to keep up with the Chargers and kind of keep them from scoring the way they need the way they needed to. Um Dak Prescott was fine in this game, 21 of 30, 244, two touchdowns, zero picks. Um but just outside of that, like they just could not get anything going. They ran the football for like 91 yards total in this game. But again, once you kind of get down in that four in the in the second half, it just takes the the Cowboys out of being able to even try to run the football as often. So it kind of makes them a little bit of a one-dimensional offense, and that again, they just weren't effective enough to kind of get back into the games. Not to mention the Charters have a really good defense that they're not necessarily like top of the league, but they are very good at everything, and they're not gonna you're not gonna be able to just sit there and be like, hey, you're just gonna gash us all the way up and down the football field and score the points the way you need to. So um just Cowboys just weren't able to do enough. Pickens had a really good game, his first good game in a probably a few weeks, coming off the issues of um him not trying hard a few weeks ago. He had seven catches, 130 yards, and a touchdown. CeeDee Lamb, six catches, 51 yards, and there's a bunch of other different guys that they're using to kind of get the ball out there. But again, when you pass the football so much, you kind of have to do that. You can't just give them all the two guys. So they the Cowboys, they're six and eight, their playoff chances are pretty much over. And I just think that, you know, this is what it is what it is. And Dak Prescott, after the game, kind of vowed that they were going to be a lot better here going forward. They weren't gonna necessarily be in this spot where they are kind of knocked out of being in contention to really have some really um to have meaningful games in the playoffs. That's what the Cowboys really want to do. With you know, with how Jerry Jones talks every year, talking about how he wants to they want to go after Super Bowl. And all that. I think to a certain extent the players have to own that too and like really like do some more because again, a lot of guys getting paid a lot of money on that squad, and I think you have to kind of go out there and get the job done, even if you're not necessarily built perfectly. But again, you traded Micah Parsons. There's some things that you did to kind of take away from your chances. But again, that bit that team is not necessarily the best built from top to bottom with how Jerry Jones has ran it up to this point. So hopefully that'll change for at least for the Cowboys fans' sake. Because you know, I know they're tired of getting fed the whole we're trying to go win the Super Bowl, and it ends up being kind of this way every single year, where they're kind of knocked out, not able to get the job done by the end of the year. Chiefs, Titans, Titans actually win the game 26-9. This was the Chiefs' first game without Patrick Mahomes since he tore his ACL last week. They came into the game with why am I forgetting his name? It was who they have starting? Uh Garder Minshew was going to be their starting quarterback in this game. He started the game and then he managed to have to lead because he tore his ACL. And then once he went out, they had to bring up their third string quarterback, Chris Oladukin, who a guy that I know actually quite intimately because he is a guy that was drafted in the seventh round by the Steelers like four, three, four years ago, to be um just a guy that they were thinking maybe he can be a project quarterback. Didn't work out and all that, but he managed to have to come up and play in this game because of all the issues with you know not having Pat and then now Gardner Minshew, the guy that's starting this game, he tore his ACL, he had to leave the game. So once he came in, it was like their offense really couldn't do anything, even against a terrible Tennessee Titans defense, couldn't get anything going, they couldn't run the football. Um, they their offense just kind of you know wasted away in this game because again, nobody ever goes into a season thinking your third string quarterback's ever gonna have to really play for you. And especially when that third string quarterback for you is a gerryman quarterback that never really has shown enough to like go out there and be like a real starter in these football games. So Kansas City, they're six and nine, their seasons are set effectively over not effectively, it is over. No Mahomes, they're kind of looking towards the future. So all in all, I think this losing this game is actually good for them because they'll have a better draft pick by the time the draft comes around because of these losses. But I do think a team that has been so prideful for winning football games and being in the hunt every single year, as long as they've had Patch Mahomes at the helm, it is gonna be a little bit of a kind of turn, kind of like a how the turns are tabled type of situation, where you're gonna have like you just have a lot of other big players on that team that don't really know losing, and they're doing a lot of losing right now. So but to the winners of this game, Cam Ward, 21 of 28, 228, two touchdowns, zero picks. He made a lot of good throws in that game. Again, it wasn't the most effective, like it wasn't like the Tennessee Titans were awesome. It was more by the fact that because of how bad Kansas City was, it kind of set Tennessee up to where they were able to go out there and score some points. They ran the football effectively in this game. Tony Pollard, 21 carries over 100 yards. Um, Tajay Spears, 13 carries, 52 yards. He had a touchdown in this game as well. And then there was just a bunch of guys getting the ball receiving wise. Alec, uh Alec A. O'Manor, three catches, 58 yards. Tajay Spears, another five catches, 53 yards on top of the running yards that he had in this game. Yeah, there were 100 yards total in this game between um receiving and rushing. Um Chigakonquo, their tight end, six catches, 44 yards and a touchdown. Chamira DK, um, another wide receiver for them. They just have a very young team. I think offensively they just need a lot more weapons in general to kind of help out Cam Ward here in the future. But I think all in all, I think Tennessee, even though they only have three they only have three wins on the season, I think they've shown a lot of fight. And I think in a game like this, where it was a very down Chiefs team that's down on their luck right now, I do find it to be at least even though beating the Chiefs when they're looking this down, I think is not necessarily like something you can like hang your hat on for the season, because you know, the Chiefs are not necessarily the Chiefs that they once were. But I think that the Titans, with how bad they have looked this year, to be able to go out there and win that game, even against the down Chiefs team, I think is a very positive note for you to take into these last few weeks of the season and then take into the offseason so that maybe you can build your team up to kind of get to a point where you're not looking for games like this against a down on their luck team, just like waiting for the season to be over. Next game, Bengals, Dolphins. Bengals win the game 45 to 21. Um, Burrow, like like coming in at like I was doing the podcast last week and previewing this game. I said, hey, this is gonna be a game where Joe Burrow's gonna go out there, get the ball to his guys, they're gonna go out there and throw the football a lot, they're gonna get a lot of yards, they're gonna score touchdowns. I think it's one of those to like make Bengals fans feel good. They're 5-10 on the year, their season is essentially over. Again, it kind of sucks on J Saint here because he's mad at me, but you know, is what it is what it is. That whole that whole thing, real quick. I I know it sounds like I know probably most of that's probably gonna be barely hard to listen, very hard to listen to because of how much yelling it was. And I didn't even know until halfway through, I probably should have turned on the levels to kind of make it a little more manageable for people to hear. But it was just weird. It I I didn't expect to get into that big of a thing about it, and again, I wasn't even getting all that heated, and I think that probably was is what made it worse because I wasn't getting heated, but I was still standing on what I was thinking in the scenario. But you know, it is what it is sometimes when you're dealing with your brother and dealing with all that, um, you kind of get into arguments. Not what do you say argument? Because he was more mad at me than I was at him. I don't know, he was just getting real heated at me for some crazy reason, but you know, it is what it is. Um back to the Bengals. Joe Burrow played great, 25-32, 309 yards, four touchdowns, zero picks. Um, Chase Brown had an amazing game. He rushing, he had 12 carries, 66 yards, and a touchdown. And then on top of that, he also had four catches, received um, four catches, 43 yards, and two touchdowns. So he had a total of three total touchdowns in this game. He had over 100 yards total in just scrimmage yards. And he had an awesome game. They um Samaj P. Ryan also had a rushing touchdown in this game. He had seven carries, 25 yards. Um, Jamar Chase didn't get a touchdown in this game, but he did everything. But he had nine catches, 109 yards. Definitely a Jamar Chase-like game. T. Higgins, three catches, 53 yards, and a touchdown. That's a T. Higgins type stat line in this offense where maybe he doesn't get all the catches like Jamar Chase does. But in the big moments where you need a touchdown, T. Higgins is gonna be that guy. Um, Mike Gasecki, the tight end, three catches, 35 yards, and a touchdown. And then there's like a total of like one, two, three, four, five, six other guys that got kind of got into the game and had at least had a catch. So like they were distributing the ball. Again, you beat the Miami Dolphins by 24 points. So that definitely is gonna be a lot of opportunities to get other guys in there. But the Bengals came out, they're five and ten. They beat a much again, the Dolphins are a much worse football team, and Cincinnati Bengals did their thing. And I think Joe Burrow got to have a little bit of fun out there. He looked like he was having a good time. And um, they did what they had to do. And again, the Bengals are a team with Joe Burrow at the helm that I think that they are not just looking at having a fun game in the middle of December and not looking forward to the playoffs. I think they have a little bit higher hopes. So I don't think this all in all fixes everything when it comes to what Joe Burrow has been dealing with, with how he doesn't feel like the organization has been helping him out and the injuries and all the bad luck for them and the bad defense. So, like, it doesn't fix all of that. But I do think if you're a Bengals fan and watched that game and got to watch them at least go out there and put on a light show a little bit with Joe Burrow at the helm is definitely a definitely a big one. And I think that again doesn't fix all your issues, but I think it just kind of you can take a couple hours and just have fun in the moment. Um Dolphins-wise, Dolphins, I was talking about this on the last pod. Um, Quinn Ewers was going to be the starter for them in this game because they had benched Tua. He came out, did okay. He had 20 of 30, 260 yards, zero touchdowns to two picks. Two very bad picks, by the way. Two very ill-advised um balls that he threw up there that he shouldn't have. But again, that's been Quinn Ewers his whole his whole career, ever since he was at Texas, and then coming into the NFL. I think he's just he's very prone to do that, even though he can be very accurate at times. He can have some anticipatory throws, but there are just times you look at him and he makes a throw and you're like, why in the hell would you try to that throw at all? And for whatever reason, he does that and he has those moments. And again, I don't think he went out there. I think he proved to be a little bit more explosive with him being able to throw the football down the field. But I just don't think he's gonna be a big difference in between him and what they have in Tua. Again, I don't think Tua's the option either. I think they need to hit a hard reset on what they are as a football team and like really bring in a whole bunch of new guys, including quarterback. But I just don't think Quinn Ewers is gonna be that long-term answer, even though he got the opportunity to do so once they decided to bench Tua. So, you know, he didn't play all that great. But again, they drafted him in the seventh round. I don't think they really expected him to come out and tear it up. Um Devon Achan had a great game, though. 15 carries, 81 yards, and a touchdown. Their backup running back, Jalen Wright, also had a touchdown in this game, nine carries, 35 yards. And then their their um wide receiver Malik Washington had a I think it was an end around that he managed to run the football in for a touchdown. He had one carry, nine yards. Um, but Jalen Waddle, five catches, 72 yards. Uh and Greg Dolchitz had three catches of 46. Darren Waller, three catches for 40. And then there's a bunch of other guys that kind of got involved and kind of catching. But again, like I said, for the Bengals side, they were able to kind of get a lot of guys involved. The fact that this game really was by the time the third quarter had really gone through, like they were the Dolphins were out of this game. So be able to get a dump bunch of guys in there to go in there and do their thing. I had a bet on this game, it was like a six-leg parlay. I needed the last leg to hit, and I needed Devon HN to get a hundred rushing and receiving yards in order to win this bet. I think it was like a two-dollar bet for like a hundred or something like that. And he had 90 yards, and then they took him off the field, didn't let him back, and they had three more drives, and he did not play whatsoever. I just needed to get 10 more yards, either rushing or receiving, and it didn't happen. It was a it was a tough watch because again, the game was boring, it was over, but I had to keep watching because I was hoping to win a bet, and it didn't work out that way. So I was definitely not all that happy about it. Next game, you got Jets, Saints. You have Saints win the game 29 to 6. I have to say the Saints over the last couple weeks, I think have shown some life. Again, this is a team that I think is definitely gonna have to hit the reset button. Like they have to get a lot of new guys in on that roster. But over the last couple, last three weeks, they've they're on a three-game winning streak. They beat the Buccaneers in their house, they beat the Panthers, who is the leader in the division right now, uh, in the NFC South, and then they beat the Jets last um this past game. Like they're on a three-game winning streak. And again, the Saints were looking really bad at one point in the season where they didn't like they win more than two or three games. They're five and ten. Would would you believe it this way? The J the Saints are five and ten right now. The Chiefs are six and nine. Again, that it's kind of like a cheeky thing for me to say to try to like equate those two teams because the Chiefs are so down bad, they don't have Patrick Mahomes, and like things really aren't going their way. But like the idea that there's even a a way that these teams are even close, even close to even having that conversation about their records being similar is absolutely an insane possibility. But Tyler Shuck, 32 of 49, 308 yards. Again, this is a against a very bad Jets team. But again, these are two bad teams playing against each other. I think the New Orleans Saints are probably showing a little bit more life as of right now. Um, 32 of 49, 308 yards, one touchdown, zero picks. Taysom Hill, he went one for one for 38-yard touchdown to Chris Olave. Like even Taysom Hill, the do-it-all guy slash tight end that they have, he's got to come in and make a play, um, big touchdown to Chris Olave in this game. Um, rushing, they ran the football for 84 yards, nothing crazy, but you know, they did what they had to do to come in and win the game. But Chris Olave had a Chris Olave like game. 10 receptions, 148 yards, two touchdowns. I was very happy for him because he came out after this game and talked about how there were some real dark times in the offseason where he thought about retiring from football because of all the concussions that he had had, and he wasn't sure if he really wanted to keep going and potentially take that risk. But he said he prayed on it and he decided he wanted to come back because football would he really wanted to do. And I'm glad, even though it has been a hard season when it comes to winning and losing, then I'm it it hasn't been a very explosive year for him, but he's definitely made a lot of plays, and I'm glad he got to have this little shining moment here as the season is waning that he can come go out there and have like that game to really reinvigorate himself to hopefully help him on going into next year and like really gain his confidence to where he like he can get back to what he was doing. Because when he first got to the Saints, and like when they were Saints, we were at least trying to be relevant, he was out there making big plays. And I'm just like, as long as he can stay healthy and get keep the concussions away and um get some good quarterback play, which is what they're getting as of recently. Shuck has really gone out there and doing some good things over the last few weeks. They're doing some things, and I'm glad Chris Olave got that chance to have that really good game, um, even if it's against a bad Jets team. Juwan Johnson, eight catches, 89 yards. Um, he also had a very good game, the tight end for them. Taysom Hill, on top of the touchdown pet catch, um, touchdown throw. He had four catches, 36 yards as a tight end. He also did well. So, like this Saints team, they went out there and did what they had. They, again, Jets are bad. They had Brady Cook as their starting quarterback in this game. He has been absolutely awful for them. No bright spot when it comes to Brady Cook being their quarterback. You know what's crazy? Is that they're having Justin Field just sit. Apparently, he has some sort of injury that's keeping him off the field. But here's my thing if they really thought they could win these football games, I think they would let him back on the field. But I think they're just ready to keep losing these games to potentially go and try to get a first round, like a high first-round pick to go and draft a new quarterback. So I don't even think, even if they were able to get better quarterback play, I don't think they'd want it. And then again, everything has gone so bad with Justin Fields and how it has gone there all in all. I just think that's something that's not gonna happen again. I think they threw him on an IR and he's not gonna be playing for the rest of the season. So I think it's like pretty much a stamped stamp of approval of an absolute fucking disaster when it came to the marriage between Justin Fields and the Jets. And I it makes me feel a little sad because obviously I'm a Justin Fields fan. He played at Ohio State. My heart, that's my school, and I really love that football team. And I'm he got he bring a lot of prosperity when he was in a Buckeye uniform. And I've followed him ever since. I really want him to succeed, and watching him be able to have a little bit of success with the Steelers last year made me hope a little bit that maybe he can be the future guy for the Steelers. Didn't work out that way. He managed to go take the money to go to the Jets. Again, the money is a big thing that's gonna be life-changing money for him and his family, on top of everything else he's made throughout his career. But it's just I just feel bad whether like this this may be a mark that stays with him for the rest of his career that he can't be a guy because of how bad bad things have gone with the Jets, but I just don't think it's all his fault. Again, he carries plenty of blame. He hasn't been the core the he hasn't made the progressions as a quarterback he has needed to in between in between the ears and physically to be do what he has to do in the NFL, become that guy. But it's just it's not if he was with a better organization and a better surrounding cast, I think it would be better than what he has shown this year with the Jets. And again, he showed it when he was he was showing he was being playing better last year when he was playing the first six weeks with the Steelers. So I'm I'm just a little sad about the situation for sure because I just want to see Justin Fields succeed in the NFL. And it for whatever reason, a lot of reasons, uh it's it's not gonna probably not gonna work out that way. Um but again, he'll show up, he can just be in Columbus for the rest of his life and everybody will love him. I don't think he'll ever pay for a meal again. Because I think he was just that he was like that a lot of people's favorite player when he was at Ohio State for the few years that he was there. So I I think there's a lot of other things he can do in his life, even if it doesn't end up being a you know a great NFL player like I thought he was going to be at some at one point. Um, next game, Vikings, Giants. This game sucked. It was bad. Jackson Dart, I had to talk about him first because it was so bad. Seven of thirteen for 33 yards. Zero touchdowns and a pick. And let me tell you, folks, he did not complete a pass until like with minutes left in the first half, is when he was he completed his first pass. I think only I think he only attempted two passes in the first half. So like I don't know what the plan for this Giants team was, but they decided, hey, we're just gonna not let Jackson Dark throw this game and see if we can win it. Again, the game was relatively close, despite that, in saying that that was the case. But I just don't know what the plan was. I think if they really tried wanted to win that game, they should have let him do more. But, you know, it is what it is. Um they ran the football effectively. Tyrone Tracy, 16 carries, 71 yards. Single tear, their backup, had 11 carries for 47. They had over 120 yards rushing in this game. Um, that was the probably the bright spot of this game because they didn't do any passing at all. Um their leading receiver had three catches for 19 yards in Wandell Robinson. Oh my god, the Giants were terrible. Um, to the Vikings, they won the game. It was bad. It didn't look good, it didn't feel good. Again, this Minnesota Vikings team is seven and eight. Their season's over, they're not going to make in the playoffs or anything. But like JJ McCarthy started for them this game. He went 9-14, 108 yards, zero touchdowns on a pick before he eventually guess what happened? He got injured. Apparently, he had a broken bone in his right hand or something like that. Like, this dude is injured all the time. And I think that was like one of the risks that people were looking at for him coming into the NFL is that like he's slightly built, he's slight of frame, kind of like the same thing with Jaden Daniels. But I think JJ McCarthy lacks a lot of the you know, the be able to get away from people type of stuff that's what Jaden Daniels is amazing at. So, and Jaden Daniels is perpetually injured. So, like, and not to mention, at their best, JJ McCarthy is nowhere near the quarterback that Jaden Daniels is when they're both playing at 100%. But on top of JJ McCarthy not being great, he keep when he does go out there, he ends up getting hurt a lot, and it's just such a bad I when the Vikings picked him, I think the 10th or 11th overall, everybody was like, Oh, it's such a great pick. He's with a quarterback quarterback developer and a head coach. Um, and it's gonna go great. And it's like when I was seeing JJ McCarthy come out, I was like, Hey, he was there for he was there for four years. And they never asked him to do a lot. So why would that change in the NFL where he's all of a sudden going to become an NFL quarterback that's going to be able to shoulder having to actually throw the football and win football games? And I'm just like, it's just like I I just didn't think that was ever going to work out. And it has kind of worked out the way I thought. And a lot of a lot of college role fans that watch AJ McCarthy play in college. Again, he played for a great Michigan team that went out there and won a national championship on top of the sign stealing and all that. Again, he was a he benefited from the sign stealing as the quarterback at Michigan. Again, I'll say it's true. It's kind of the way it went, but they did win a national championship without being um stealing signs as much, at least those last five or six games of that season. But like in the NFL, it has been terrible. He's been hurt a lot. He's slight of frame. All those things are going against him. And it just looks like this was an absolute disaster of a pick by the Minnesota Vikings, and it's capped off by all the injuries. So even if they want him off the field, they have to bring in a guy like Max Brosmer. Brosmer, who was a rookie quarterback. I'm not sure where he played college at. He played at Minnesota. I do remember the name Brosmer. Kind of insane, but he was bad at Minnesota as well. Brosmer, when they brought him in, he was 7-9 for 52 yards. Didn't do anything in this game. The Vikings, they did win the game, so they had to do something right. Aaron Jones, 21 carries, 85 yards. J.J. McCarthy, before he got hurt, did score the only touchdown that Minnesota had gotten in this game. He had two carry, two carries, 20 yards, and a touchdown. So at least J.J. McCarthy did something to help them win this football game before he left. Justin Jefferson at least got involved in the offense. Six catches, 85 yards, zero touchdowns. He had 14 yards of catch, so at least he got involved because he's been like very, very, very seldom he's been really getting the football at all over this last month or so. I'm surprised he hasn't crashed out like AJ Brown as of yet. Jordan Addison, two catches, 26 yards. Again, this is just a bad football game altogether offensively. And I don't know. These are two teams. Again, at least the Giants, like maybe think they have a quarterback, but again, the way they treated the way they treated Jackson Darton, I'm like, do they like do they even trust like was this about them not trusting him to throw the football? Or was this about like saying, hey, we're just going to be super, maybe we could just wait for Minnesota to like make a mistake with J.J. McCarthy as their quarterback and we can win this game without throwing the football? I'm just like, that is not a game plan that shows that you have confidence in your quarterback. But I don't know. The Giants team is terrible. They don't have an actual head coach right now. It's an interim guy. So I'm not going to sit here and take any long-term uh thoughts about that, but you know, it's just terrible all terrible all around in that game. Next game, Buccaneers, Panthers, Panthers winning game 23-20. Um I think me and Jace, we we both started the year being real Tampa Bay believers. And it has just not been a good year, man. They they got hurt. They were started off the season hot, and then all their guys got hurt. Mike Evans went out. Um Mech got hurt, got a quad uh a hamstring injury, and then they had lost, they just lost so many guys. Bucky Irving had missed a bunch of weeks with an injury, and it's just everything they try to hold hold on, and now you bring all the guys back, and they're just they're just not playing good football right now. Again, when you have so many guys hurt for so long, and then you bring them all back, they just haven't played a lot of football together, and then you're now you're playing against other teams that they've played a lot of football, and even if they're not great football teams, they're playing best the right time because they've just played a lot together, and that's what the Carolina Panthers have been. Like the Carolina Panthers are eight and seven, they're not a great football team, but it's just they've played a lot together and they can make big plays when they need to. Um, Bryce Young, 21 of 32, 191 yards, two touchdowns, zero picks. Again, Bryce Young is just eight. I'm not saying he's ever going to be a guy that can be a superstar and like be like a really good starter in the league. I don't think that's ever going to be him. But what they're asking to do right now is manage the football game and not make crazy mistakes. And I think to a certain extent he's done that, especially in these bigger games, like especially in the NFC South games. Like he has been pretty lights out and just not making a lot of mistakes, and he's just been managing the football games, and they've done very well. They ran the football for just over 100 yards. Rico Dowdle, nine carries, 29 yards, Chuba Hubbard, 27 yards off six carries. Um it's um Tet McMillan. There, I think he is the best player on their team. Um, the wide receiver for them, he had six catches, 73 yards, and a touchdown. Jalen Coker, 47 yards off, three catches. Rico Dowdle had four catches. Like, so it was a back and forth affair. These two teams are fighting tooth and nail, clawed against each other to win this game. And I just think if Baker and the Buccaneers had a chance to really build throughout the season and really come together as a team, their defense has been awful. I think their defense has been pretty atrocious all year long. I don't think that was going to change no matter how much they played together. But offensively, I just think they have been out of sync in the highest of degrees. And I think that's really butt bit them in the butt, especially over this last three games where they're on a three-game losing streak. Again, all these games being in conference in division too. So definitely not games you can lose, especially when you're playing against these teams that have played you a lot and they know what you like to do. So if they know what you like to do and they um and you're not playing at your best because you just haven't played a lot together and you've been injured a lot, I just feel like these teams are able to take advantage of those moments where Baker's not necessarily as sharp and not be able to get to the get the ball to his receivers on time on target. Again, this game ended. Tampe had a chance to come back and either hit the field goal or score a touchdown to win the game, to tie or win. Tie with a field goal, win with a touchdown, and Baker just it was like a broken play. Baker just threw the ball behind Mike Evans and they weren't on the same page. And it just it goes right to the safety that was sitting in the corner, it was sitting right behind him because he just threw it right to because Mike Evans was going the other way. So I'm just like, that is something that you get that you don't that doesn't happen when you're playing a whole season together and you're just in sync on time on target, and I just don't think you can get that because of how many different injuries that everybody has gotten and all of that. So I think that this Buccaneers team has really fallen apart at the seams or seven and eight. They were honestly, when you look at the what these teams are, they think that the Buccaneers should have been running away with this division, but it's just injuries, defense has been kind of like atrocious and kind of fallen apart. And I think now offensively they're going by the wayside as well. Um Baker, like I did I mention Baker's sat line, 18 of 26, 145, one touchdown, one pick, not good at all. Bucky Irving, 19 carries, 71 yards. He was fine. Um Baker Mayfield had 49 yards rushing in this game. Rashad White had 45 yards rushing. They ran the football for 169 yards. So like they ran the football pretty effectively. But it's just they just in the big moment when they needed points, just weren't able to get them, especially at that at the end of the game where they had a chance to either tie or win it. Um Mech, one catch, 40 yards. He definitely he started off the season so hot and then had the hamstring injury, and then he kind of played through it, but then he missed a few games, and it's just like it felt like ever since he has come back from injury, it has just been a not to mention Mike Evans comes back, and then you also get Chris Godwin back. So it kind of felt like he so quickly because of injuries went to the top of the depth chart, and him and Baker were coming together, and they were like really getting their um they really come together on time, on to like knowing what each other likes to do. And then he Met gets hurt, takes a step back. In the his first year in the NFL, it's not necessarily a crazy idea that that happens. And then you have your better wide receiver, like the at least the guys that Baker knows more come back, and they come back healthy, and Mike Evans is back, Chris Goblin's back, and those guys just have a better rapport from Baker because they've been playing with him for so many years. And I feel like all that has kind of come together where Mek hits a wall and is not able to come back stronger from that because of everything that's kind of gone against them in that way. And he's kind of like dropped back the wide receiver three in that offense, and it's just he should be thriving in that spot, but it's just all these players are not used to playing in these spots that they have that they have now because they've just been injured, and they haven't really played together all that much. And they're playing against the Panthers team that I don't find them great, but they've been playing together. They know what they want to do, they have a good philosophy about how they want to play these football games, and they're just they're doing what they have to do to win. And I have to give the Carolina Panthers a lot of credit for taking advantage of the um Buccaneers who just are just falling apart at the seams right now. Jags Broncos, where are we at time-wise? Over two hours now? See that argument in the middle definitely didn't help us time-wise. That sucks. Um, let me get through the rest of these games. I want to keep I don't want to go too much longer. Um, Jags Broncos, good game. Jags win 34 to 20. Um Trevor Lawrence, 23 of 36, 279, three touchdowns, zero picks. I have uh he also had six carries for 20 yards on a touchdown. I have to give Trevor Lawrence his flowers because I have not been a Trevor Lawrence fan ever. Again, maybe I'm a little bit of a hater because of the time he had at Clemson and he beat us in the playoffs and all that. A little bit of a hater, not gonna lie, a little bit of a troll when it comes to Trevor Lawrence. And his start of his NFL career had not been all that awesome. And it has taken five, six years to figure it out, but under this year, under new head coach Liam Cohen, new head coach slash office coordinator Liam Cohen, they have really figured something out, and I think Trevor Lawrence is now playing the best football he has played as a pro. He's throwing the football, he's throwing it effectively, they're pushing the football down the field. He's running the football, using his legs a lot, which I think has unlocked a different part of the game where I think it's opened some things up for him passing-wise, because he's able to at least show that the defense has to worry about him um finding a rush lane and getting some extra yards when he can. And I think with that, I think he has turned into a much better player, and he's playing some very good football right now. The Jags are 11-4. Like they're playing some, and they played against the Broncos team that was 11 and sorry, 12 and 2 at the time. So they like are playing against a very good Denver defense, and the defense just could not stop Jacksonville whatsoever because of how efficient and good Trevor Lawrence has been playing. They didn't run the football effectively. Travis Etienne, 16 carries, 50 yards. So like it wasn't like they ran the football down the Denver Broncos' throat. Like they were throwing the football and pushing it down the field, and they made a lot of big plays. And like that's on Trevor Lawrence, that's on Liam Cohen, their head coach slash offensive coordinator, where they're really clicking at the right time, and they're really like a they're a dangerous football team. No doubt. I think their defense can be had, of course. I think their defense is probably the weakness of that team, but it's just offensively, they're just clicking on such a high level right now that if they're just gonna be a very hard team to beat in the playoffs, again, you're going off you're going up against a lot of other great teams. So, like, again, that's gonna be that can be a um who knows how that's gonna go once you get to the big dance. But I have to give Trevor Lawrence and that Jaguars team their credit. They're playing awesome football right now. I think they're it's like almost under the radar how good they have been this season because everybody just kind of like, hey, it's the Jaguars. It's very easy to forget them, but they're playing awesome ball. Um Parker Washington was the leading receiver for the Jags in this game, six catches, 145 yards, and a touchdown. Um Jacoby Myers, four catches, 45 yards, Brenton Strange, their tight end, five catches, 39 yards, Brian Thomas Jr. had a couple catches. I think the fact that Brian Thomas Jr., as good as he was last year, I think was he a rookie last year or was it a second year last year? But again, the fact that he was looking like there would be either he was gonna be their number one, and he has so quickly turned into like a number three receiver for them because of how good Myers has been since they traded for him to get him from the Raiders, and then Parker Washington's having a couple big games as of recently, and then Brenton Stranger tight end is playing well, and like the so like they have a lot of weapons that they've been using, and ETN didn't even do all that much. He had four catches, 16 yards on top of the 50 yards he had rushing, and he had a touchdown as well. So they're just they have so many weapons and they're distributing the football to so many different players, and they're just they're just playing very good football offensively. Um, Bo Nicks, 28 of 47, 352, uh 352 yards passing, one touchdown, and one pick. That one pick definitely a bad one that he threw. Um, RJ Harvey, seven carries, 50 yards, and a touchdown. They ran the football for just over 100 yards as a team. So they weren't able to run the football as effectively. Um But you know, again, they they just I think it was more on their defense, just not able to stop Jacksonville from scoring. Again, 20 points for Denver actually ain't that bad. And as much as I'm not the biggest fan of Bo Nicks, he didn't play terrible. Like I said, 28 of 47, 352. Like he had the pick was bad, but other than that, I think he's played he played a fine game, but it's just they just weren't able to do enough against how efficient Jacksonville was in this game. Cortland Sutton, six catches, 86 yards on a touchdown. RJ Harvey, on top of the 50 yards he had rushing, he had another 71 yards receiving off four catches. He had over 120 yards total um scrimmage yards in this game. Troy Franklin, four catches, 66 yards. Pat Bryant, the wide receiver that that started the whole argument with me and Jace about hospital balls. He had five catches, 42 yards, and then um you had a hospital ball thrown by Bo Nicks to Pat Bryant, they kind of got him sent to the hospital because he was just such a bad should not have thrown that football in the middle of the field like that. Um and then they had other other guys just kind of get in. Marvin Mims had a couple catches, Troutman, uh Lid Jordan Humphrey. I've talked about him before, but that's a crazy name to have. But it was just two very good teams going at it. Jacksonville just got the better of the Broncos in that game. Definitely an awesome game to watch. But but the Jaguars ran away with it. They went one by a couple scores. Um next game, Falcons, Cardinals. Falcons win the game 26 to 19.

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John Robinson was like the the big he was like he was the big boy for the Falcons in this game. He had 90, he had 76 yards rushing off 16 carries, and then he also had another 92 yards receiving off seven carries seven catches and a touchdown. So like he was awesome in this game. Kyle Pitts, seven catches, 57 yards and a touchdown. He was uh also very big in this game. Um Tyler Algier, the backup running back for the Falcons, he had 79 yards rushing off 16. He came back for this game. He had missed a few games when he injured all those guys. He came back and they barely did anything, but they didn't need him to because they had so much production from everywhere else. He only had three catches for 27 yards. But with all those guys producing the way they were, Kirk Cousins, 21 of 35, 197, two touchdowns, and a pick. Like when everybody is doing that well around him, it makes it to where Kirk Cousins doesn't have to shoulder load all by all on his own. And it does make that Falcons team a very multiple team that has a lot of dudes to have to deal with, and it makes it very hard, uh, a very hard team to beat. And then defensively, the Falcons are fine. They're not great, but they're f they're fine. They can make it hard on an offense to really go out there and try to try to score points, and that's exactly what they did. Jacoby Brissett for the Cardinals, 16 of 31, 200 yards, one touchdown, one pick. Um the Cardinals ran the ball fine. They had 132 yards total rushing in this game. Um, but it's just they just weren't able to score the way they needed to to win this game, especially with how good the Falcons were. Um Elijah Higgins was a leading receiver for the for the Cardinals in this game, seven catches, 91 yards. Michael Wilson had a two catches, 52 yards, and a touchdown. Trey McBride, he was very he did very little in this game, four catches, 27 yards. The Falcons were able to really hold um they were able to hold him in check to where he wasn't able to take over the game for the Cardinals like he usually does offensively. Marvin Harrison was back in this game. He had one catch for 14 yards coming off the um heel injury that he was dealing with. He definitely did not look to be all that explosive. But again, it's against the Falcons, so it's a little bit a little bit harder of a challenge, especially with him coming back his first game. And I think he played, he's played in a month. So it's just the Falcons came out, they bum rushed him a little bit. And again, it was 16 to 16 at the end of the first half, but in the second half, um, the Falcons were just able to kind of get more going offensively and score 10 points to uh the Cardinals three in the second half. Next game, this is a big one for me. Steelers, Lions. Steelers win the game 29 to 24. This might be the best game that the Steelers have played all year long, both offensively, defensively, not as much because the the Lions did come back in that second half. Um, I think they scored 14 points in that fourth quarter to really get back into the game when the Steelers were like kind of up and like really controlling the game. It's like, but in the first three quarters, the I think the Steelers defense did a great job of holding the Lions down and they couldn't run the football at all. I think total the Lions had 15 total rushing yards in this game. So, and they're again against Jameer Gibbs, who I think is a top five back, and when he's playing at his best, potentially the number one back in all of the NFL, they held Jameer Gibbs to seven carries and two yards total. David Montgomery had four carries and 14 yards, but he also had a longest carry of 17 yards, which is what how much the Steelers were able to stop the Detroit Lions from being able to run the football. Um, Jared Goff, he went he did fine 34 of 54 for 364 yards and three touchdowns. The fact that the Steelers were able to play a game in the Detroit Lions house against Jared Goff, and Jared Goff threw for over 350 yards and three touchdowns, and the Steelers were able to win. I do think that's a big positive on the Steelers side. I'm like, if you give me that stat line from Jared Goff, um, I think the Steelers probably lose this game running a like this is the Lions win by multiple scores, I think. But coming out of the game, out of come from watching it, again, that second half, the Lions kind of got going and were able to get up and down the field. But when it when the Steelers defense had to have it, um, they made it happen. I will talk about that ending sequence here in a minute, but I just want to get to the rest of the stats real quick before I get there. Jamison Williams had a great game for the Lions in this game, five catches, 70 yards. Uh Jameer Gibbs, even though he didn't run the run the football that effectively, they got the football to him, um, throwing it to him. He had 10 catches, 66 yards, and a touchdown. Uh Khalif Raymond was a kind of a hidden gem for them in this game. He had four catches, 62 yards and a touchdown. St. Brown for he had four catches, 54 yards. Isaac Tesla. Um, he had four catches, 52 yards and a touchdown. It was a he had a very good cut touchdown catch um in that game. Let's see here. Let me get to the Steelers first, and then I'll get to that ND. Sequence. Um, Aaron Rodgers played a very good game. 27 of 41, 266 yards, one touchdown, zero picks. He was only sacked twice, so they were able to get the ball out quick and give him enough protection. I think he got sacked twice in the first half by Hutch by Aiden Hutchinson. And then outside of that, he didn't get touched at all in that game. So very good on him to get the ball out quick and on the offensive line to give him enough protection and kind of get the ball out and do what they have to do. Um, the Steelers ran the football the best. They probably have ran the football all year long, to be totally honest with you. They Jalen Warren, 14 carries, 143 yards, and two touchdowns. He had two separate 45-yard touchdown runs in this game in the second half, which was awesome to see because again, the Steelers have like really kind of gotten away from running the football here in the last couple of games because of how inefficient that they were. But the but the line, again, the Lions defense has been so hurt and they've had so many different guys having to go in and out of that lineup that I think that not being able again, running the football to in the tune of 230 yards in this game was kind of crazy. I didn't didn't think that was going to be possible, but the fact that they were able to run the like they tried and they actually were able to be a little efficient running the football is definitely a good sign to see with how bad how hurt the Lions defense has been as of recent. Um, like I said, Jalen Warren, two touchdowns, 143 yards. Kenneth Gainwell, I think he was it's him and Jalen Warren that were literally the superstars in this game. Kenneth Gainwell, nine carries, 50 yards, but then on top of that, he also had five catches for 78 yards and a touchdown, including a 45-yard touchdown catch that he made that was awesome going into the end of the first half. Um then it was like a uh Rogers getting the ball. I think they had a uh clip of it where he was telling um Kenneth Gainwell, start on the side of him, told him to go out into the flat and just uh try to get a catch there, and then at right before the play started, he told Gainwell, hey, you're on a line, you have a linebacker one-on-one on you. I don't run a go ball. And they threw a go ball to um Kenneth Gainwell, and he got held like a motherfucker and by that linebacker, got the flag, but as they were falling, apparently Rogers put enough air under it to where Gainwell was able to kind of like adjust to it while he was falling to the ground and managed to get his hand right under the football as it was about to hit the ground, caught it, and then got back up to get up and then go get the touchdown catch and then make it a touchdown at the end of that first half to kind of make it tied 10-10 going into halftime. That was an absolutely amazing play by Kenneth Gainwell. It was a good throw by Aaron Rodgers. Um, Aaron Rodgers had another throw too in the second half where it was gonna, if he had gotten it, it would have been a touchdown, but it was dropped by um Marquez Valdez Scantling. So like Aaron Rodgers is really on point in this game and throwing the football very well. And you have to give the the offense a lot of credit that they ran the football as well as they did. Kenneth Gainwell was absolutely awesome. I do have to give a lot of credit to some of these wide receivers. Again, I've been I've been very negative about the wide receiver core in general. Um, other than DK Metcalf, there has been really no number two. But I think as of the last couple weeks, they've been finding ways to, even if they don't have a consistent number two, like the number two guy, they have been rotating, they've been getting guys in in this game. Adam Thielen, four catches, 49 yards, on top of the fact that I said Kenneth Gainwell, he was like the leading receiver for them in this game. I think Kenneth Gainwell might be playing the best football on the whole offense, to be totally honest. Um, but yeah, but outside of like Kenneth Gainwell, they're getting the ball a lot in the passing game. Adam Thielen, four catches, 49 yards. DK Metcalf, he had a big game in a different way because he made headlines for his actions. He had four catches, 42 yards. Not necessarily a great game. Darno Washington, three catches, 36 yards. Pat Fryermouth had four catches and 20 yards. Scotty Miller had three catches and 19. So like they were Jalen Warren had a couple catches. Like there was a lot of dudes getting involved and they're doing a very good job. I'll get to the Metcalf thing real quick here before I get to the rest of the game. Middle of the game, he ended up going to a fan, a Detroit Lions fan in the stands at the um and had grabbed a shirt and then kind of like threw him on, like almost hit him. It looked like a punch, he punched a fan in the face, which I don't think that was the case. I think he just grabbed a shirt and then kind of like shoot him off. Well, like it was a very aggressive thing. You can't do it. He was suspended for two games because the NFL just doesn't want that to happen. You can't do that to a fan. I totally understand that. There was news that he was saying that the fan had called him some derogatory word um names and also called his mom that, but that there's been videos that come out that have proven that not to be the case. Who knows who's telling the truth if that is the case and is and the fan had said something crazy to him like that, then I'm not gonna be all that upset. But if this is one of those things where all the dude was doing very minor things to DK Metcalf and he overreacted, and then on the back end try to lie about it, it's definitely not a great look. And I'm very upset about that because at the end of the day, if those things are said to you, then it's not about football anymore. You're it's a human thing, so I wouldn't be wouldn't be able to blame him if that happened. But if it's anything else and it's very lighthearted, like either not answer the guy at all, go talk to security and let security deal with it and get the guy out of the game, but don't go handle it yourself. There's too much relying on you when it comes to the team, and you make too much money. Like, I just feel like like if it's just little things that the guy is saying, don't let that guy get into your head and like make you make a bad decision. Especially if he didn't say anything crazy. It was it was bad, it was a bad look, and he got suspended for two games coming out of it. He's gonna get he's gonna be missing out on 500k in in um in money, just what he was gonna get paid for those two games he was gonna play. And then potentially if the Steelers want to take advantage of it, that could void the other like 45 million worth of guarantees that he has on the rest of his contract because of this suspension that he got. I don't think the Steelers are gonna take advantage of it because I just think that they still want him to be happy and beyond the football team, but like he's opened that door for him to get screwed up, his his money to get screwed over that way. And that's the part I wish he would think about more before making the decision that he made in that moment. So I don't know. It was it was a bad look, very bad black eye on a very good game by the Steelers. But now that I'm done talking about that, we'll get to everything else. So Steelers run away with the game. It feels like it's gonna be a run, uh, a route, and then in that fourth quarter, the Detroit Lions managed to like kind of get everything going offensively. Jared Goff's thrown the football down the field very well. They're moving up and down the field, and it comes to a point where the Detroit Lions score a touchdown to go down by the five, to go down by five points, give the ball back to the Steelers. The Steelers can't make really any drive worth anything to go and like take away all the time off the clock. And then the Lions get the ball back with like two minutes left. Let me make sure I'm not crazy. Yeah, with like two minutes, two minutes of five seconds left, they have to punt the ball back to the Lions. And the Lions were able to like get all the way down the field. There was there was a couple, there was a pass interference call on the Steelers that I think was a little bit ticky-tacky. Could have gone either way, because I think literally Kyle Duggar, the safety, had gotten there literally right before the ball had gotten there. So by the letter of the law, I guess it does count as pass interference, but I just think that when you watch it, it was a bang bang play. I think the defender just made a great play. But again, it is what it is. So that was considered defensive pass interference, and that gave um gave the Lions a big conversion to kind of get them going down the field. And then Lions get all the way down there, and they get to a point where they're like first and goal. First and goal, they all they need is a touchdown to go ahead and win the game, and they try one the first pass they go for, they try to get a touchdown, but it was coming, there was a pick in that play that the officials called as offensive pass interference, and they pushed them back 10-15 yards, and then they take a couple plays to kind of get back into it was like a it was like a fourth in goal, and they had to go for just this is the last play, not a lot of time left. We're gonna try to go for this touchdown to win it. If not, okay. So they go for it. St. Brown had going down the field, pushed off on the defender, and then came back to the football, but it took him out of the end zone when he did the push-off, and then the defensive player for the Steelers had came up, grabbed him, and literally all forward progress had stopped. Like he was stopped, they weren't able to move him at all, he wasn't going forward, he was going backwards. They took him back, he was going backwards five yards, and it almost felt like the officials was was about to was had like whistled the ball whistled the play dead because again, forward progress, as soon as a player's like not going forward anymore, like that's usually when the play is stopped because there just no progress is being made. And literally as they were blowing the whistle, um Mamarse Brown has the great idea of pitching the ball off to um to somebody to try to get let them go ahead and take it into the end zone, and they considered it, and it was considered a fumble by the officials that then uh Jared Goff was he was again credit to him, he was still out there trying to play hard in the final moments. He grabbed the football and ran to the end zone. And so this is where the problem comes in for me, which is why I wanted to talk about the sequence, was because all forward progress had been stopped. Again, it was pass interference, so all this stuff got canceled out anyway. But I just want to talk about the that whole forward progress to fumble and all that. So all forward progress has been stopped. If a deep if one of those defensive players comes in with any extra effort to get him down to the ground and kind of slams him onto the onto the ground, that defensive player would have been given a penalty and it would have been first down for the Lions, giving them halfway to halfway the half the distance to the goal or at the one-yard line. So the defensive player can't go overboard and make sure that guy's on the ground. So they just get him to the point where he's not moving anymore. It should have been forward progress has stopped, it's over. But the officials somehow, some way convinced themselves that he was not only was that not the case, but he was able to fumble the football for then Jared to take it and get into the end zone. And they stated that was the case, that it was a fumble and that Jared took it and took it into the end zone, and then it was a touchdown. But then they capped it off by saying it was offensive pass interference, and because it was an offensive penalty that happened with no time left, there's no review, the play can't, they can't redo the play, the game's over. Fool cool. At the end of the game, it ends up with the Steelers winning. I was happy about that. But I just think the fact that they that whole that whole situation ended up they called it a touchdown in the first place is stupid. If you've watched football for any good amount of time, you understand what the forward progress is, and the fact that like all that went the way it did was absolutely awful. If you go back and watch the play, it was stupid the fact that any of that happened at all. Because like I said before, if the defensive player comes in and like slams Armara St. Brown to the ground after like once forward progress is stopped, they'll give him a penalty and it'll be bad on the defensive player. And that's why they just held him up and didn't go any farther. But I you just can't let that come to a point where you let you you think that is how that play went. That was stupid. But again, all's well that ends well. It ended with the offensive pass interference anyway, but it was just a very stupid it almost makes you question like what are the officials out there, like, what are they doing? That's their job is to know these rules, and it just felt like it didn't work out that way. And I feel like a lot of the NFL in general all believes that exact same thing. So it's not like I'm sitting here on an island, so I'm not this is no hot take, but it was just a very, very, very weird scenario the way that played out. But um, all in all, Steelers got the win. I went to this game thinking the Steelers are gonna get their their shit clapped, so I was and I think I came to a conclusion off of this game. I was happy, I watched because I I've always maintained that I think the Steelers season is gonna end in horrible fashion, get into the playoffs, probably lose the first playoff game that they play, or even if they win one. I just don't think a Super Bowl is uh an option, so I've been very negative on the season. But coming out of this game where I thought we were gonna get destroyed, and we went out there and won a game that I thought never thought we had a chance of winning, I had a realization, and I think that realization was the fact that being a negative Nancy about how this season has gone is not gonna help me anyway. And with that being the case, like why not I'm not gonna sit here and like kind of try to convince myself we have a chance to Super Bowl when that's not the case, no. But I think there is room for me to go ahead and understand what I think the eventual outcome is gonna be, but also open myself up to a chance of at least having fun with these games when there's a real like real competitive football to be played. And I think the Steelers, as much as I think they've had their flaws and all of that, I think they still have a chance as long as they win these um this next game against the Browns, or if it comes down to beating the Ravens in week 17, doing that, making the playoffs, that I think I've I think there is something to this team that I've gotten that I'm going to get that has not been the case with pirate prior teams, even when they make the playoffs. Is that I think with Aaron Rodgers at the helm and the way that the team is constituted right now, they really do have a chance to play a competitive game in the big games with a better team. The Bills, I think, is the only team I'm like really like negative about because I'm like Josh Allen is just the Steelers kryptonite, but everybody else in the AFC that they would meet in the playoffs, I really do think the Steelers can play a competitive football game and maybe win a play win, maybe win the in the first round. And I think if I can do that, because I never I never had the chance, I never had the expectation of winning a Super Bowl or nothing. So I'm like, maybe if I can just get a little positive and and embrace the moment a little bit and hope that the Steelers can play a competitive football game in in January in the playoffs, why not have a little fun with it? Because me being negative is not going to change the fact that they have a chance to win the division and go get into the playoffs, so why not uh don't be delusional, but at least have a little like at least be able to embrace the moment and feel some positivity in the moment and have a little bit of hope. Why not be a fan for a little bit? So I don't know. I'm feeling I'm just again, I'm not sitting here trying to trick myself into thinking we have a chance at a Super Bowl. I just think that maybe I can get onto the bandwagon a little bit and have a little fun with it these last few weeks, and you know, the season is in our season is going to end how it's gonna end, whether I am happy about it or sad about it. So why not have fun with it while I can? You know? I feel like that's a pretty reasonable conclusion to come to. Last three games. I know we're at like two and a half hours at this point. Oh, this is so bad. Let me get through these quick. Texans, Raiders, close game. It sucked that the game was as close as it was. I really thought the Texans were going to run away with this game. Um the offense for the Houston struggled a bit. CJ 23 of 35, 187, and a touchdown. They ran the football for 83 total yards in this game, didn't really deal that well. Nico Collins was great, four catches, 59 yards. Dalton Schultz had the touchdown catch from CJ in that game. Um, I do have to give the Raiders a tad bit of credit. They played tough. Geno Smith had a decent game, 16 23, 200 yards, two touchdowns, and a pick. Against that very good Houston defense. I think he had a pretty decent, a very good game, especially by comparison, because Geno Smith's been ass all year long. Um let's see. Running the football, I think Ash and Genty actually had a good game. He had 24 carries, 128 yards, and a touchdown. So I've been wanting to talk about how bad Ash and Genty has been all year in that offensive line have been. So I have to give them their credit when they do manage to run the football well. And again, against a very good Houston defense that I think is the best defense in the NFL. So the way I look at it is that hey, it's like when you when they do what they have to do, I have to give them credit when they make that happen. So let's see here. Next one. Oh, Genty also, I he also did well running the football. Um, catching the football too, he had a 60-yard touchdown catch, and he made the big play that way. So he has, again, in this game, he has shown a little bit as to why he was a top 10 pick. I don't think that was necessarily a great pick to make with where they were as an organization, but you know, it is what it is. I think he had a very good game. Have to give him the credit for that. Brock Bowers also had a good game. Five catches, 33 yards, and touchdown. Again, against a very good Houston defense, which is why I have a little bit of uh I'm giving the Raiders a little bit of credit for showing some life in this game and making it tough on Houston, even though I think Houston definitely did not play as well as they possibly could have, and they could have destroyed the Raiders if they would have had their A game offensively. Um Sunday night game, Patriots, Ravens, Patriots win the game 28-24. Drake May, 31-44, 380 yards, two touchdowns, and a pick. He played well. He played very well. He did throw that very bad pick in late in the game that I think really gave the Ravens a chance to really like ice it, ice it away. But the problem was that once that happened, Baltimore went away from Derrick Henry running the football, and they just kind of like they just weren't able to kind of stick to what was effective for them, and then gave the football right back to the Patriots to where they were able to go down the football field and get the touchdown to win it. Um the Patriots did not run the football that effectively. They had like 79 total rushing yards in this game. Stevenson did have the most rushing yards, eight carries, 51 yards, and a touchdown. Um Stephon Diggs was awesome, nine catches, 138. Mack Collins, seven catches, 69 yards. Kyle Williams had two catches, 46 yards and a touchdown. Hunter Henry had six catches, 35 yards and a touchdown. Um Patriots played very well offensively, man. Again, defensively, they weren't really able to stop the Ravens when they were, you know, they were running the football like they needed to. Um, but I will give the Patriots credit in this game. They had a chance to like really get really take an L in this one, but they got the Ravens gave them the opportunity to win it, and Drake May and the Patriots went out there and took it. Um let's get to the Ravens. Lamar Jackson, seven of ten, a hundred yards, again, by that stat line. He did not finish the game because he left left the game with some sort of injury. Um, Tyler Huntley had to come in. He had nine, he went nine for ten, sixty-five yards. So another Lamar injury kind of taking away from that Baltimore Ravens team. But again, all in all, even with Lamar Jackson leaving the game, they still had a chance to win because in this game, Derrick Henry, 18 carries, 128 yards, and two touchdowns. Like when they were leaning on that Patriots defense and letting Derrick Henry run the football, as long as he wasn't fumbling it, of course, because he did have a fumble in this game. When they were letting him run the football, like they were We're leaning and they were really getting some big chunk yardage and just totally running it down the Patriots' throat. But again, like I said, it's just like when the big plays had to be made, especially when the Ravens had to try to get the ball back and try to go back and win it, like try to ice the game. I think they were up 11 in the fourth quarter. All they had to do was ice the game and keep running the football, and for whatever reason, they put in their backup core uh running back, Keaton Mitchell, and then they stopped running the football as effectively. Because again, tackling Derrick Henry in the fourth quarter, as big as he is, as fast as he is, is harder than tackling a regular size, at least by NFL standards, running back in Keaton Mitchell. And again, it's it just sucks that that was it. It was like apparently it wasn't apparently the plan was is to alternate, not give Derrick Henry that many snaps. But again, in the in the moment where you need to go out there and win the football game, he only had 18 carries at that point. I feel like you should have just called um called an Audible and said, hey, we're gonna let Derrick Henry go out there and win this football game for us, especially because we don't have Lamar Jackson out here to do so. I just feel like it's a terrible plan that they had when it comes to that end of the game scenario. Um but Zay Flowers had a one carry, 18 yards and a touchdown. Um, but it's just again, the Baltimore just had a chance. They had a chance to win this football game, and they just didn't take advantage of, again, all they had to do it offensively because I just think defensively they just had no chance to really stop the Patriots um with Drake May. I think Drake May was just playing at a crazy level in that game. Um but it was just the it was the fumbles for the Ravens, because I think it was Derrick Henry had a fumble. Zay Flowers also had a fumble because he threw him the football on a crossing route, and then he was trying to make a play, and then the defense player kind of came up from behind him and punched the football out. I'm like, if they just take care of the football, I think it really does take away any opportunity for the Patriots to come back and win this football game, the way the Ravens are running the football, as long as they kept giving it to Henry, of course. But it was just Zay Flowers had a decent game, seven catches, 84 yards. Hopkins had a cut four catches, 41 yards, Mark Andrews took a couple catches for 21. Um, but it was just with the Ravens having their playoff hopes on the line in this game, had a real opportunity to ice it with a lead in the fourth quarter and weird coaching decisions taking Henry and not having him out there when he was the most effective player on that team at that moment, it just didn't doesn't make any sense to me. Um, and again, this now because of that situation, either if the Ravens play the Packers this coming Sunday, if the Ravens either lose to the Packers or if the Steelers beat the Browns this Sunday, the Steelers win the division and make the playoffs. If not, it'll go to week 17 where the Ravens and the Steelers will play each other for the division to kind of get into the playoffs. So hopefully it doesn't get to that. But you know, it is what it we'll see what it is this um this Sunday. Last but not least, Monday Night Football. Last night. Niners Colts. Niners win the game 48-27. This is a route of all routes. The Niners couldn't be stopped. Brock Purdy had a very good game. Awesome game. 5-25 of 34, 295 passing yards, five touchdowns and a pick. Christian McCaffrey was awesome in this game. He had 21 carries, 117 yards, and then he also had another six catches, 29 yards, and two touchdowns. George Kittle was awesome in this game, seven catches, 115 yards and a touchdown. He went down with an injury. It was like some type of hand-tring injury or something like that. Um, late in the game, he wasn't able to come back. But again, the game was already in hand by that point, but he definitely did experience that injury, so I want to make sure I mention that. Juwan Jennings, five catches, 71 yards and a touchdown. DeMarcus Robinson had two catches, 23 yards and a touchdown. Niners were just unstoppable offensively in that game. The Colts had no opportunity to stop them whatsoever. Again, when Brock Purdy's playing like that and he's playing efficiently, getting the ball where he needs to go, I just think they're the San Frans a very hard team to stop. Even with all the injuries that San Fran has defensively, they're 11-4 on the season. They're playing some decent, they're playing the their best football at the right time. And I think they're gonna be a very hard out in the playoffs as long as they their defense can kind of keep it together. But um, but even still, with their defense, if they didn't explode like that offensively, the defense for San Fran did give up some points. They to 44-year-old Phillip Rivers. He Phillip Rivers played a lot better in this game by comparison of what he played last week. Um, he went 23 of 35 for 277 yards, two touchdowns, and a pick. One thing I will say is that he has no mobility, and every throw he has is practically they're all of his throws are ducks. Everything he just doesn't have any zip on that ball. But again, he hasn't done any football in five years. And at 44 years old, I just don't think it's really insane to think that there was going to be anything different. No, I don't sorry, it's in it's not insane to think that you would lose a little bit not playing the sport of football for five years, and then you're getting into your 40s. It makes sense. Um, but he was played he definitely played a lot better in the game, he had a lot better control of the offense. They did a lot less dink and dunk. They were able to push the ball down the field just a tad bit more. Um a little bit more, not crazy, because the first play of the game, they tried to throw a go ball down the middle of the field and Philip Rivers underthrew it. So, you know, not a great look there, but otherwise, I think he had a pretty decent game. Jonathan Taylor, 16 carries, 46 yards and a touchdown. Um Alec Pierce, four catches, 86 yards and a two touchdowns. Josh Downs, five catches, 65 yards. Jonathan Taylor had another three catches for 33 yards. Pittman Jr. had four catches and 32 yards. Tyler Warren had three catches and 30 yards. So like in a normal game, if the Colts would have had any sort of fight defensively, this probably could have been a game where like the Colts had a chance to win, but it's just San Fran was just playing at such a high level in that game where the Colts just had no chance to go ahead and win it. So definitely a big win for the 49ers. But again, the Colt the Colts at one point in this season, they were seven and put on one, two, three, and one, four and one, five and one, six and one, seven and one. At week eight, they were seven and one on the season. But now in week sixteen, they are eight and seven. Six straight five straight losses. Six of the la um six of the last seven have been losses for them. Again, losing Daniel Jones is a big deal. Um with him, they definitely look like a lot better team. But even before Daniel Jones went out, they were kind of struggling. But it's just this, it's just crazy to see how like the how the they were looking so great in the first half of the year, and then things can kind of fall apart so quickly. Again, losing your quarterback's definitely a big deal, but it's just definitely crazy how the tables can turn throughout the NFL season. Alright. Um that's all the games. I've went we're we're doing like two and two hours and 47 minutes now. Definitely way longer of a podcast than I thought it was gonna be, thanks to me and Jace doing the whole brotherly arguing thing. Um, so before we go, we have three games on Christmas that I wanted to do the make our picks for and make a preview of, and then I was supposed to get Jace's picks as we go, but he left, so left in the middle of the pot if you didn't notice. So it's just been me sitting here talking this whole time. So if you listen for a while, you understand that what that was when Jace left. So I'm gonna go through those three games, make my pick. I'll I think I can probably guess which pick he would make in these games because of kind of how lopsided they'll be. So I'll make our picks, make do a little quick preview and get out of here, hopefully, before the three-hour mark. So, first game, Dallas at Washington. I'm gonna take Dallas. I'm gonna take a guess and say Jace will probably pick Dallas as well. Um, if Jace doesn't agree with this, he can always go back and make whatever pick he wants to later, but we'll talk about it on the next pod. Dallas is a better football team. Washington's defense is terrible. I think Dallas will be able to go up and down the field on Washington, and I just think that with all the weapons that they have offensively, I just think um Dak Prescott will be able to throw the football up and down the field. They'll score some points. I think Washington, with um Marcus Mariota not as efficient, I just think and Washington just doesn't have enough to kind of keep up, especially with how um porous their defense is. I think Dallas wins that game. Next game, Detroit at Minnesota. Detroit's coming off the bad loss. They still have a tad bit of a chance at making the playoffs. Again, they just need a so much to happen, I just don't think it's going to. But they still have a chance to kind of go out there and play hard. And they're playing against the Minnesota team that I think JJ McCarthy will be out probably the rest of the season with his injury. So I think Minnesota is so bad defensively that even if Detroit, um, Detroit's defense is still going to be hurt and not playing well, I just don't think I trust Minnesota's offense to be able to take advantage of that bad defense. And I just think Detroit knows that Minnesota defense so well that I think even if they're not playing at their best, I think they'll be able to make enough plays. Again, I think if either of these teams get to 17 points, I think they probably win it. I probably believe in Detroit a lot more to get that done than I do Minnesota, especially if they have um whatever their third string quarterback coming in playing. Even if it was J.J. McCarthy, I would still feel the same way. So I think Detroit's gonna win that game. And then last but not least, on Christmas Day, you have Denver going to Kansas City. Come on, man. This is two different teams on two different trajectories of this season. Kansas City's down bad. They're down to their third string quarterback. I think they're gonna be trading, um, picking a guy up off waivers to try to take up that spot because Oladoken was definitely not gonna get the job done for them to try to at least be competitive. But I just think Denver, with that defense, with the way that they're playing, I think just think it's a much better football team. They have a lot more to play for. I think they still have a chance that being the number one team in the AFC in the playoffs. So I think all in all, I think Denver just is just a different team. They have just a lot more to play for. I think Kansas City's checked out a little bit. Everything they again, they've done so much winning and they've been so locked in over close to the last 10 years with Patrick Mahomes at the helm. I think with things going as bad as they have been going over the last two weeks now with losing multiple quarterbacks and all that, Patrick Mahomes obviously. So I just think all the all in all, I think Denver's gonna win that football game. Because just Denver, just yeah, they have a lot more to um play for. So that's it. So let's go ahead and get out of here. I apologize for not just a poly. I don't think it was a bad thing we had that that whole big dispute, but the fact that it went as long as it did, and the fact that it ended with Jace leaving the podcast altogether, that's the part I apologize for. Um, but I think it was a decent podcast up until that point, and I think at least I tried enough to try to kind of pick up the pieces and uh kind of end the podcast. Again, this thing is way too long. If you're on, hopefully, if you're listening, hopefully you're not listening to it all in one sitting, that would be kind of crazy. Peace it out if you have some extra time with it being in the holida week of the holiday. Um, we would appreciate if you could do that. Um we are gonna do another podcast this week. Depending on how Jace feels, I'm not sure if he'll be on the next podcast, how how pissed he is about this whole situation. I'm not sure. Hopefully he'll be able to figure it out and we'll kind of get together and do the podcast later on on Friday. Um, but who knows? Um we'll see. But there will definitely be another podcast this week, no, no doubt about it. So um that's about it. Um let's just go ahead and get this podcast over with. We've been going for three hours now. Well, I've been going for three hours now. Jayce kind of hopped off in the middle there. So listen to the podcast. So if you've been listening for a while, we appreciate you. If you're just now jump jumping on, hopefully you like us and enjoy us enough to join us on this ride of talking about sports in the dumbest way possible. Um and if you do like us and enjoy us, we'd appreciate if you do a couple things for us if you could. Like our podcast, subscribe to the podcast, rate the podcast five stars wherever you listen to us. We're pretty much available on all audio platforms out there, so anywhere you can do that, we would love if you could do that. 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