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Miami Edges Ole Miss, Transfer Portal Chaos, And NFL Wild Card Picks

JoVante and Jace Boozer Season 1 Episode 291

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A sleepy three quarters flipped into a thunderstorm, and the fallout says everything about where football is right now. We start with Miami’s 31–27 win over Ole Miss: a run-first plan that bled the clock, a veteran QB who played within himself, and a chaotic finish that had everyone yelling about a swallowed flag. Ole Miss had chances, the fourth-quarter tempo surged, and the difference came down to poise, sequencing, and capitalizing on short fields. It’s a blueprint for January: control the ground game, take free yards, and save your shots for when the defense finally blinks.

Then the conversation jumps to the sport’s new fault line: NIL and the transfer portal. A Washington quarterback reportedly signed a top-tier NIL deal, teased the portal when bigger offers surfaced, then reversed course. At Ohio State, a breakout freshman running back’s reported ask triggered a hard roster math lesson. The theme is leverage. Agents and suitors float numbers, collectives scramble, and coaches juggle budgets while depth charts wobble. Without guardrails—one-year minimums, standardized terms, or binding windows—programs risk overpaying now and rebuilding forever later. Fans feel it too; it’s hard to connect when every season can be a new auction.

We round out with NFL Wild Card picks built on matchups, not myth. Can Philadelphia’s defense suffocate a shorthanded San Francisco while their offense finds a pulse? Will Buffalo’s high-variance attack hold up against Jacksonville’s opportunistic front? Are the Chargers anything beyond Herbo-or-bust against a disciplined New England team? And which front seven—Houston or Pittsburgh—can win first down and the red zone when the pockets get muddy? Along the way we poke at the coaching carousel, why some “coordinators” aren’t really coordinating, and how the right hire is the one who actually runs the room.

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SPEAKER_06:

Welcome back, James Post Podcast. Today is Friday, January the 9th. There's always a delay from when you go do 54321. It's a delay and click.

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Yeah, because I don't have it like set, I don't have the cursor set right on the record button, so I have to find the record button and then click it. It takes a second.

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Why not find the record button and start?

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Because if I accidentally click it, or if I move and then do the counting and then try to click right away and I click something else wrong, then we're doing the restarts. And we already do enough restarts by ourselves.

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But we're not recording yet.

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But I thought we I thought we were on a I thought we both kind of had this going that you wait for the click. I do the countdown, but the really the click is what you're waiting for.

unknown:

Whatever.

SPEAKER_01:

Because I don't click on anything else, it's just one click and then you go.

SPEAKER_06:

I know, but it's just I've always hated that. Count down, then click. Yeah. It's a countdown and you click as you're counting out. You get four through two one. And we go.

SPEAKER_01:

No, but the click is the click is more defined. Like once you hear the click, you know things are recording.

SPEAKER_06:

I know, but I have to wait.

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It's like it's like a getting ready. You're getting ready for the penultimate moment.

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No, I'm getting I'm getting ready for you to count down. Why are we counting down?

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You just want me just to click? Yeah. No, the countdown gets you ready for the click.

SPEAKER_06:

Then why isn't the click right as the countdown ends? Why am I waiting another second, two seconds for the countdown click?

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It's only a second. Don't I think you're overstating that. I think you're overstating.

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Whatever.

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It's just a click. It's just a click. Five, four, three, two, one, click. And honestly, most of the time it's when you're sitting there on Doom Scrolling on TikTok, and I'm trying to get you to start. And I'm like, Jace, we gotta go. Five, four, three, two, one. Usually that gives you enough time to turn the volume down.

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I was just gonna get it.

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No, no, no. I'm saying usually. I'm saying usually that is the main goal is to get you to be like, hey, it's time, volume down, phone down, and then we get to go. And then you pick up your phone later and start Doom Scrolling if you don't like what we're talking about. Or you're you're trying to multitask and try to play a game at the same time. Which I would say you usually usually do a pretty good job at as long as we're not talking about college football.

SPEAKER_06:

I zonk with college football. It's just not my thing.

SPEAKER_01:

It's I I uh for today's purposes, we have the game last night to talk about, which you watched because you brought it up to me. And then I have two NIL stories to talk about.

SPEAKER_06:

I only watched that game because I bet Ole Miss to win it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I did not bet the game at all because I was I just hate watched it. So I'm just like, you know what?

SPEAKER_06:

I I watched it not bet because I bet Ole Miss to win. Because I think they were an underdog.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they were the underdog. You would have won some money if you if you I would have.

SPEAKER_06:

It wasn't like a whole lot. Only bet like five bucks.

SPEAKER_01:

I think I only won like you would have won like 20 bucks, something like that?

SPEAKER_06:

It wasn't like anything crazy, but I was like, Old Miss is gonna win this game.

SPEAKER_01:

It didn't work out that way. They had their opportunities.

SPEAKER_06:

It should have worked out.

SPEAKER_01:

It was fast interference at the end.

SPEAKER_06:

But you know, you're right. They did have their opportunities, and I feel like they didn't capitalize on opportunities when when they got them.

SPEAKER_09:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06:

And with this game. Pardon me. Was a uh almost a slug fest of some real boring three quarters. Oh, yeah, and then the fourth quarter exploded. And then the first three quarters kind of turned out to be like the Omis and um Georgia. Georgia game of they're just throwing punches at each other. Yeah. To see whoever scores at least a couple or at least two touchdowns is gonna win this game. And it was it was entertaining. It was entertaining an electric fourth quarter.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, no doubt. Which is really entertaining. It kind of played out like the Pittsburgh and Ravens game.

SPEAKER_06:

It did. I think now that I think about it. There's a tweet that I got that I did not open, and I'm kind of upset about myself now because it was something about the Ole Miss quarterback.

SPEAKER_01:

Trinidad Chembliss. As you're looking it up, I do have one thing to say is like, oh, obviously, we were talking about the Miami Ole Miss game that happened last night. Miami won the game 31-27. Figured I should give that a little bit of that context. But do you I think Ole Miss, like Miami kind of took control of that game very early on, and you can tell that Ole Miss wanted to start fast. They took the ball first with coming out of the like starting the game. They won the toss, they decided to receive, they wanted to set a tone very early. But Trinidad Chambless on the offense wasn't necessarily ready to deal with the physicality that Miami had to start the game, and they kind of like got scorched, kind of got like the fire got put out very early on in that game. And then Miami just kind of like, hey, we're just going to like those first three quarters. Miami was like, hey, we're just gonna keep running the football, and we're not gonna make a lot of crazy mistakes, we're gonna throw a lot of short passes, like they weren't trying to push it at all until that fourth quarter hit, and then things kind of opened up a bit for both teams. But this is like Ole Miss had their opportunities to win this game.

SPEAKER_06:

I also had a lot of opportunities that they almost fucked up a lot. Yeah, no doubt. Uh like the dropped interception uh by Miami. Yeah. That was just a bad bow.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, yeah, it was bouncing between three different, like three different dudes.

SPEAKER_06:

And it the I think the DB, the safety went up there to get it, didn't get it, and it fell right into the DB's hands, and then just fell back. Um I can't say Carson Beck did play a pretty great game. Um especially in that fourth quarter, especially in the last like minute when the game mattered most, he was there.

SPEAKER_01:

He got the heck, the touchdown run that he had was wide open. Wide the fuck open. They just forgot that he had legs or something. Like, I don't know what he doesn't ever run. He does well, he has the last two games, and that was the part that annoyed like Ole Miss. I think Miami, here's the thing. I have to give Miami a little bit of credit here because I don't want to give them credit because their fans don't deserve it. The like they don't deserve, they they're like fair weather fans and all that. But here's what I'll say about Miami and how their team is built. Carson Beck has been playing a lot of college football. He has been in college football for like four, five, six years now, and he has been through a lot. And you could just tell in that game where shit got tight. He was the one that was even keeled because he had played because of how much football he has played. And did he make a lot of crazy plays? No. But when there was open lanes, he took them and he ran for yards when he when he had to. When there was an open pass, for the most part, he hit them. The one touchdown pass he hit to a wide open receiver right down the middle of the field. He hit it, didn't miss it like he sometimes does. And he just kept the offense rolling. And that honestly, most of the game was built off that running game because it felt like every time they handed the football off, especially on the first down, they were getting five, six, seven yards, or had getting all ten. So like their running game definitely was taking control of this game. But in the fourth quarter, when Carson Beck had to step up and like make some big plays, he did exactly what he needed to, and he was hitting the passes that they needed. And Malchi Tony had the one catch that he had for the touchdown when they was like a screen pass, and somehow the lane, like the whole field just opens up for him right down the middle of the field. He just takes it. But outside of that, Malchi Tony wasn't the biggest factor in this game. It was them throwing to their receivers, running the right routes, and just getting down the field little by little, along with running the football. So I want Miami to lose in the championship game so bad because they don't deserve the success. I would more I'm whoever wins this game tonight between Indiana and Oregon, I'll be rooting for them to win the national championship because I have a lot more respect for both of those teams. But I have to give the team a lot of credit that they are they play, they've they've been hitting their stride right now. Their defensive line is playing great, their offense is moving the ball. Like again, they're not they're not trying to wow you, they're trying to lull you to sleep with that running game, and hopefully they can hit a couple big passes down the field when they have their opportunities. Like, that's their game. They want to run the football first. And I at some point you have to respect it. They're playing bully ball, man.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't know. The game was sorry, I I got distracted by doing what I was doing. I put out a uh redraft of the 2025 class and it's ass.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm not surprised by that.

SPEAKER_06:

They have Jackson Dart at number one, and I'm like, no.

SPEAKER_01:

Would there be any other quarterback he'd want to? Oh, like Carde.

SPEAKER_06:

It'd still be Cam Ward. I can't. Like, what the fuck are we doing? It'd still be Cam Ward. Uh yeah, so they have Tyler Shuck at three. And unfortunately, why am I okay with that?

SPEAKER_01:

Those last four or five games he played was five. The six games, the last six games he played were good.

SPEAKER_06:

Um he was playing good football, man. A lot of them are pretty normal. Some of them are like second round guys going into the first round. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Um my cobuka still picked it 19 by 10, okay. It's cool, I guess.

SPEAKER_01:

Again, if he he that whole offense slowed down and it felt like took away from his production. So he didn't like he was starting off having to have an explosive year, and it didn't end that way based off of the all the injuries and all that. But they now have Harold Fannon picked in the first round, too. Yeah, I'm not surprised by that.

SPEAKER_06:

He was a dog.

SPEAKER_01:

He was good. Um he was good on a terrible offense.

SPEAKER_06:

So you guys tell how good he is. You know who they don't have being picked in the first round? Um, your boy? Shadow Sanders. He's still not in the first round.

SPEAKER_01:

Why would Shador be a pick in the first round?

SPEAKER_06:

Because people love to fucking slobble him. Oh, and Shamar Stewart. Oh, they had him picked in the first round? No, they don't have him picked up. Okay. And the first comment on the the tweet was, oh, why isn't Shador up here? I'm like, because he's fucking dog shit.

SPEAKER_01:

He's not good. Not good. Not good at football. He'll he will be he will make a lot of money being a backup. He really will.

SPEAKER_06:

And that's a okay. Why is that a slight to people? That's okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Backups make millions. Look at guys, uh, career backups make millions upon millions of dollars.

SPEAKER_06:

Who's a good one? He has a son that plays college football currently.

SPEAKER_01:

He was on like the Hasslebacks, like the Hasselback brothers, they made a whole career out of being backups for the most part. Um, you have um, who am I else am I thinking of? Hassleback Brothers. We were talking about the dude that played for uh Washington the other day. He was like, he made the last start for Washington.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, Josh Johnson.

SPEAKER_01:

Josh Johnson, like he made a whole career out of being a backup. Like you make millions upon millions. Jameis! Fucking Jameis. He had his one stop in Tampa Bay, and then ever since then he's been a backup. But guess what? He's making millions upon millions of dollars every single fucking time.

SPEAKER_06:

He gets a lot of brand deals too, because he's really liked it.

SPEAKER_01:

Mariota. Again, I think these they're like the Mariota's a high-level backup. Don't do that. The the problem is that he has a couple games that makes you think, like, oh, maybe he can do something, and then he starts showing you why he's a backup, and then people get pissed. But Mariota as a career backup is awesome. Good dude, not gonna cause a fuss in the locker room. He's gonna come do what he has to do on a daily basis, and when he he's has to go out there and play, guess what he's gonna do? He's gonna make the plays necessary, he's gonna run the football.

SPEAKER_06:

I thought you're right.

SPEAKER_01:

He's a good backup.

SPEAKER_06:

He is a good dude. I think that's the biggest thing. He's a good dude.

SPEAKER_01:

You have to be a good hang. Like, you can't be an asshole and be a career backup. That's just that doesn't how it works. Doesn't work like that whatsoever. Carson Wentz did not learn that lesson because he could have been a career backup forever, because everybody's gonna ooh and ah over the physical talents that he has, and he could have been a career backup. Guess what? Every time he leaves a place, everybody talks about how much of an asshole he is. Dude, I I I think that's the weirdest thing about him is how are you that bad and a dick?

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. Pit do you can't pick one pick one. If you were still the MVP caliber guy and an asshole, okay. You'd be forcing people to deal with it, but it is what it is. No, you're not that guy. You are a douchebag. Exactly. And no one likes you. Right. So no wonder you can't keep a fucking job.

unknown:

I can't find the fucking.

SPEAKER_01:

No question. Um, but yeah, the Ole Miss Miami and turned out to be a very good game, a classic. Honestly, one of the better playoff games, semifinal games in probably the playoff history so far. So give him a lot of credit, a lot of good football being played. Ole Miss. Anybody, do you know what Lane Kiffin tweeted last night? He like he tweeted about the last play. Should it should have been pass interference? Lane Kiffin's a fucking asshole. He took two of the uh assistant coaches from that team. Said, hey, I need you back at LSU. I need you back. I think it was the tight end's coach and then the running backs coach, I think. But he left the OC there to keep calling plays. Bro call him. He's an asshole. Broke. He's like, hey, Warrior, I'll still win in football games.

SPEAKER_06:

Stop it. You know what's funny?

SPEAKER_01:

And here's the thing, here's the problem, right? He was being an asshole, but you know, when he signed with LSU, he made LSU give him the same incentive that he had with Ole Miss. So every game that Ole Miss kept winning, LSU was giving him a million dollars. LSU, for every game Ole Miss won in the playoff, LSU was paying Lane Kiffin a million dollars.

SPEAKER_03:

What the fuck is that? LSU was desperate. LSU was desperate.

SPEAKER_01:

Desperate. They were desperate. So I'm just like, that's the part where I'm like, you're an asshole. You take your coaches, but yet every time they won, you kept getting money out of it. So like you were winning either way, and then you still decided to be the asshole to take away some of the coaches when they probably could have helped Ole Miss go out there and play. And I think during the game they were talking about how the running backs coach or some coach had to like be thrusted into a role he never had because those two coaches were taken away in the middle of the week.

SPEAKER_06:

So that's crazy. Yeah, that was he had a hole of that dude's collar.

SPEAKER_01:

It was bad. Again, they never do it, they never call pass interference on like Hail Mary's. They never do.

SPEAKER_06:

That's like the dude can't even get his other ball, and it's slowing him down.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

So it's like that was like egregious.

SPEAKER_01:

And that would have been a 15-yard penalty and there'd have been one untyped down. So I think they were on the 30-yard line when they had that play. Yep. So being around the 15-yard line and trying to go out and get a last second play to win the game would have been a lot more feasible for sure. You had a lot more options, but again, they just they never fucking call it. It happened literally every single hailmare I've ever seen in my life, watching in a watching NFL, college football, pass interference is happening and they never fucking call it. Never do. And it's the most annoying thing of all time because it's like, oh, it's a everybody's desperate. It's a different scenario. I'm like, that's fucking stupid. You just don't want to fucking call it because it's happening every time. Because when it's time, when it's nut crunching time, those defenders are going to do whatever they need to to try to stop that ball from getting from getting into an offensive player's hands. So it's just people not want to take responsibility and make the hard call because it's happening every single time. Um, the other game, Oregon, Indiana happening tonight. We already made our picks on that.

SPEAKER_06:

Um Ravens have interviewed Vance Joseph, the DC for the Broncos.

SPEAKER_01:

Not bad. Again, I want to talk about these two cops for full of things, and then we can get to the sorry, I was just I it's the same thing, but black. I want to Did you hear about the Damon Williams story? The quarterback for Washington.

SPEAKER_00:

No.

SPEAKER_01:

He okay, so these past like two weeks have been an absolute disaster because he early on in December, I think like December 2nd, December 3rd, had signed a new NIL deal to return to Washington and be their quarterback for this upcoming season. And apparently, from what news story is, is because nobody really gives out necessarily 100% concrete information, he is getting paid like a top 10 type quarterback in all of college football. They gave him a nice big pay bump to stay at Washington. And then early on this past week, he announced that he was intending to go into the portal after he had already signed that contract with Washington, right? And apparently, from what the news was when I read it, was that LSU came calling Lane Kiffin, and then there's a couple other schools that came calling saying, Hey, we're willing to give you more money if you decide to want to come here. So he decides, hey, I'm gonna he announces without telling Washington, he announces on his social media that he's gonna go into the transfer portal. And Washington fights it to the nail from the start, saying, Hey, he just signed a contract with us. Sorry, a new NIL contract with us to make him one of the higher paid quarterbacks in all college football. And we fully intend on him being our starter going into next year. They were not playing nice. They were like, hey, he just signed a contract here. This is what it is what it is, he's not leaving. And they maintained that for days, and he kept maintaining that he was going to leave because he wanted to go do something else in the portal, and they kept doing it, and then finally, like yesterday, he announces that he is sorry and that he intends on going back to Washington for this upcoming season, and he's excited for the season that's coming. The fact that these players, and this comes to it goes to the other story that I want to talk about, but the this whole we talked about this on the last pod about the portal being insane, about the fact that these teams can call these players agents and literally just say, Hey, how much are they trying to pay you? Oh, we're willing to give you a little bit more, even if they don't intend on actually paying you out that type of money, or if they say, Hey, we we think the school that you're at may actually match that, but we're just gonna be willing to screw them over because now they have to match the number that we're that you're claiming is somebody else is willing to give you. So the fact, and it's the problem, and I'm gonna keep saying this is that there needs to be some type of rules and stuff like that. But the biggest problem with that is as soon as they want to put rules as to what the players can do, it's gonna make them employees, which means there's collective bargaining, which means all that stuff that the college world does not want to deal with has to come up. But it's just this is it, it's impossible to have to field a football team in the current landscape of what it is right now. Ohio State, they've have 22 guys leaving in the portal, like 22 or 23 are now leaving in the portal. And which a lot of them, we were losing wide receivers, that was gonna happen because Brian Hartline's leaving. Nobody's gonna want to take the Hartline discount no more. That I understand. But some of the stories that are coming out Ooh, I didn't think about that. You guys have to pay receivers now. We'll have to pay them the big, big bucks, yeah, for sure. Yeah. But obviously, Jeremiah Steng, don't no worries about that.

SPEAKER_02:

He's announced he's called probably the last of the great receivers you.

SPEAKER_01:

Again, he's the one guy. We I think we talked about this on the last pod. He's the one guy in all of college football that literally take away the school from him. He's worth seven millions. He's worth five, six, seven million dollars. But again, he is He probably still take a discount to State Ohio State because they were saying that Miami had eight million dolling for him.

SPEAKER_06:

Miami has a good case right now.

SPEAKER_01:

Again, because Miami has some big boosters down there.

SPEAKER_06:

No, they don't. Miami just no longer has a good case because Carson Beck is this his last year conference? Yeah, he's done. He's done. So they do not have a good case.

SPEAKER_01:

Again, they're looking for quarterback, for a quarterback to go there still to start for them next year. Compared to you guys have a quarterback. We have a quarterback, Julian Saiyan being there. We have to give him a raise. And here's one of the main stories I want to talk about for Ohio State. Well, Damon Williams, I'll finish this before I get to that. It sucks that these players can sign a contract and say that they're gonna get the money that they're gonna get, and then be like, hear a different number from either their agent for another or from another school, and be like, hey, I want more. And these these schools are getting strong armed into either, hey, I either have to say yes or I have to let you go, and now my school's in a bet in a my team is in a worse spot because we were planning on having you, and now you're leaving because you heard that you're gonna get more money. That's the part that sucks about this. This is why we need a lot more rules, and that's the part, and this goes into Bo Jackson. Bo Jackson, obviously, the running the freshman running back for Ohio State. And managed to take on the start the year, he wasn't the starter, but by the end of the year, he was the main guy. And coming up this up past last like 30, these last week or so, Bo Jackson came to Ohio State and said, Hey, I want to raise, I want a pay raise, right? He took a little bit less. He's from the state of Ohio. He was hurt his senior year. So I have no doubt that he was probably getting the bare minimum because he was a guy, didn't play a senior year, was hurt and all of that, and he's an in-state guy. So he probably took less to come to Ohio State. And also good on Ohio State, too, because they easily could have came off of you and said, Hey, you're hurt. We're not sure if you're the same player or not. We can go get somebody else from such and such place. But the Ohio State stuck with him as well. Has a great year. Now he's the guy for Ohio State. And he comes to Ohio State in the last week or so and says, Hey, I want a pay raise. And apparently, with the money that he's asking for, this is all reported.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

He was asking for money that matched what Travion and Quinshawn got combined. Which is they're saying is about$1.5 million. Bo Jackson. Okay. The running back for Ohio State. Yeah. He was asking for$1.5, which is more than what Quinshaon and Trevion got together last year.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And it's forcing Ohio State to because Ohio State once they give them a pay raise, they're like, hey, we know that you want to get, you should get paid more. You're a lot better player than that. But 1.5 is crazy. And here, but here's the thing. Coming from Bo Jackson's side, I understand because there's running backs out there getting paid$1.5 million. But those places paying what paying$1.5 million for a for a running back, are they the ones winning national championships? Are you? It's not us this year. Will it be you next year? That's the question. Again, it hasn't been decided yet whether Bo Jackson will leave or stay. But like I think he's worth the 1.5. 1.5. I think in Ohio I think Ohio State's either. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

For a true freshman to go out there and take the spot from a dude who's been at your school for a year now.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06:

He went out there, played his ass, took his spot.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06:

He's now transferring.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06:

You're in a kind of spot to you kind of need him.

SPEAKER_01:

He has leverage. No.

SPEAKER_06:

He does. I think he's worth 1.5.

SPEAKER_01:

I think he's worth the big pay bump. I think he's worth a million.

unknown:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

But the thing is, is that when they sign these contracts, what they do is the year, what they do is the year after is like, hey, I want more. In the NFL, when they sign contracts, they're stuck. They're locked in. But in college football, literally, they're saying there's been stories that says every four months, these players have their family members saying, like, hey, this school called us saying they're willing to give you this money. Right. Or oh, hey, we're willing to pay you this money. We're going to let you know. And now they're just planting seeds of doubt in these players' minds when the money may or may not actually be there. And it's not. That's the part that like there needs to be some locked-in, like, hey, once you sign your this is your number for a year or for two years, because the fact that players can just keep coming back and asking for more and asking for more, not just that doesn't just hurt Ohio State, it hurts everybody.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I think Bo Jackson is worth he's worth a million dollars, no questions asked, but 1.5, you can't field a team.

SPEAKER_06:

1.5 might be a stretch. I think he is worth a million dollars. Yeah. Because he did show that he is phenomenal at both receiving and running. Yeah. And that he's only gonna get better.

SPEAKER_01:

No question.

SPEAKER_06:

I think, but again, with this with this kind of guy, you can probably be like, hey, we'll give you the million, and then come into next year we can maybe talk about going a little higher than that. Right. You improve our offer improves. And I think that's okay. It's just uh wanting a switch so often. That and that's the part the fact that there's been no kind of like sanctions or like rules to the any of this. This has been going on for like four, three years now, and it's only getting worse.

SPEAKER_01:

No rules to any of this shit.

SPEAKER_06:

It is a it is the wild west out here half the time of hey, just getting recruits in general. Of the I've watched it was I think it was a top ten recruit this year, has gone to like five different schools.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

They have given he got one offer from this school, went to the next school. They gave him a higher offer, verbally committed, went to the next one, did it again, yeah, and then did it again, and then did it again, and then did it again.

SPEAKER_01:

We had a read a freshman wide receiver that did not that played that has five catch for 36 yards this year, sit there and said, Hey, I want more than more than a million dollars to come back. Didn't show shit on the field. He was mostly hurt, and Quincy Porter was the was the uh wide receiver's name, and he they said no, because like, hey, we're paying, we already have there's no guarantee you're gonna be wide receiver two or three on this roster coming into next year, and you want a big pay bump because there's some school out there that's desperate and wants to give you that money even though they haven't seen you actually do it on the field. And that's the part that sucks. And now that Ohio State is going through this thing where they're like, hey, we probably won't be able to sign 20-man classes anymore. We're gonna be signing 16 men, and we're gonna all we're gonna have to pay them all more money than what we ever thought we were gonna have to pay them, but we have to do, we have to do things the way we need to do it. And that's the part that sucks. That now these players that don't show that they've even done anything have the leverage to come after you and say, hey, I want more, or I'm gonna leave. That's the part that makes it worse than anything, because like you can't get attached to these players anymore. It's now got to the point where you can actually get attached more to NFL players and than college players now.

SPEAKER_06:

Because at least I can almost guarantee they'll be there for their like their contract.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, like when you draft, when you draft a guy, they're guaranteed, like if you're a first-round guy, they're there for four years. Four or five years, guaranteed. Even it's even a second round, third round pick, two-year contracts. Like, there is there is a chance to like actually attach yourself and really fall in love with these dudes or like see them play and like oh, you get to watch them do it. But in college football, that's not the case anymore. You can't even get a freshman to come in and be be guaranteed two years of them being there. That's the that's the part that sucks. Like, they they need to have some roles, man.

SPEAKER_06:

You should have freshmen at least guaranteed to be somewhere for at least two years. Yeah, like you have to be there at least your freshman season and then your redshirt freshman season. If you're even if you're red shirted. If you're not red shirted, just your freshman and sophomore.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

I feel like that's the players.

SPEAKER_01:

Need like again, I'm not against players getting paid. I'm just but now that's gone so far the other way. There's no regulation to this shit. This is just whatever fly. These players now have so much leverage because there's always a team willing to be out there and be like, hey, I'm gonna tell your uncle that saying he's an agent, we'll pay you, we'll give you a$50,000,$500,000 pay bump. But that may or may not be fucking true. And that's the part that like that's the part that sucks because you don't even know if they're worth that. And now these teams are being forced to not just Ohio State, a lot of teams. There's chances like Ohio State, there, these teams are like burning money. We paid a big offensive tackle to come and transfer to Ohio State last year. He didn't fucking start. Burn over a million dollars on him. Why not? And it's hard to go to your boosters and ask them to be paying you millions upon millions of dollars. Hey, we need more money. Right. Especially when Ohio State is not a place that has a big boy billionaire booster right behind them, like Texas Tech or like Oregon. Jack Nicholas? He's not that fucking rich. You know his name? My nigga, why do you know his name? He's one of the most famous golfers of all time. Who the fuck is that? Jack Nicholas. I'm gonna walk up to a motherfucker. Oh, you're talking about the old guy? You're talking about the guy that actually still plays golf. Nigga, there's two! Jack Nicholas is like from Ohio.

SPEAKER_04:

Who the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_01:

It's Jack Nicholas, right? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, Shaq Nicholas. He's the old white golfer that had he was the one that held the record for the most um tour, sorry, the most uh what do they call him? PGA tours. PGA championships. He had the most PGA championships before um Tiger hasn't even Tiger didn't even didn't even beat it. He's still like two behind. But yeah, Jack Nicholas. But then there's another very young, young, much younger golfer that's still playing that he lives in somewhere in Westernville.

SPEAKER_06:

You're the motherfucker that forgets superstars names on a daily.

SPEAKER_01:

Jack Nicholas is a legend in sports.

SPEAKER_06:

You have looked me in the face and been like going, your quarterback.

SPEAKER_01:

Joe Burrow. Yeah, I have those moments. That's that's been a well-documented thing that when it comes to in podcast, I just have a motherfucker.

SPEAKER_06:

I've never known. Again, you are the type you are the dude that knows the third round, the third string safety for the fucking Miami Dolphins, who is drafted in the fourth round out of North Dakota St. Texas State.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

And I'm like, who the fuck knows this?

SPEAKER_01:

How do you know this? Somehow they just get put in certain boxes, and I'm just able to recall it.

SPEAKER_06:

Suddenly that box clicks on, but you can't remember the fucking uh top five quarterback in the NFL. You've looked me in the face and form like the Chiefs quarterback.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And I'm like, Patrick Mahomes? Yeah. Think of it like ED for the podcast world. And it's like in the middle of my.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, yeah. No question. Yeah. If you're looking at me just going, and I'm like, come on. You're like, I can't remember his name. Bro, it's TJ Watt. What the fuck is wrong with you? Are you having a stroke? Yeah. What's wrong with you, bro?

SPEAKER_01:

I I more than accept that that is a flaw of mine. A flaw, a real flaw. I don't know. Maybe it's like Rain Man, but except it's like random facts. I don't know. Alright, yeah. Oh, did you hear about the your guys' running back is visiting Ohio State today? I forget it's Mackay something. Makai.

SPEAKER_06:

I forget it's uh the Browns. Sorry, I'm on coaching now.

SPEAKER_01:

Um go on to NFL now because really nothing else to talk about in college football.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh the Ravens interviewed uh Vance Joseph for the DC for the Denver, which is the DC, the DC defensive coordinator from Denver.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. Yes, it's a good interview. But yeah, it's the it's just that's isn't it more the fucking like not more than John Harbaugh, let's be honest.

SPEAKER_06:

Um the Browns interviewed Dan Percher. Do you know who that is? It's the Bengals offensive coordinator. Who wasn't he wasn't doing shit? Do you want to see the comments on this Browns tweet? Go for it. He wasn't doing shit. Yeah, why? Please know. Do whatever it takes to get horrible. Let him hire who he wants. Uh offensive coordinator was a was in title only. Zach Taylor calls the plays just as and it'll be just as quickly as we found out uh with Tennessee with Callahan, our last offensive coordinator, who sucked ass.

SPEAKER_01:

No question.

SPEAKER_06:

And no longer has a job. Yeah. Because he was trash. Um, horrible choice. While uh other teams are doing real interviews, the Browns are continuing to bring in candidates from the aisles of misfits, of misfit coaches. Yeah, I agree. Now, this dude is well liked in the Bengals locker room.

SPEAKER_01:

That doesn't fucking matter.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh Joe Burrow, Chase Brown, a lot of the guys do really like him. But it's really easy to like somebody who don't do nothing.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, until you it's easy to like somebody until you start losing. This is the first time I've heard his name. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

I literally don't know what you do. Um, they're interviewing him today. I hope to god they hire him. Because maybe he's not dog shit. But the Titans learned very quickly our coordinator was not the reason Joe Burrow was playing well. That motherfucker stood on the sidelines and took credit for shit he did not do.

SPEAKER_01:

He just got to be the guy that talked to Joe Burrow throughout the week when when Zach Taylor was off doing real head coaching things.

SPEAKER_06:

And by real head coaching things, he means nothing.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah, no question. I wasn't trying to give him credit whatsoever.

SPEAKER_06:

No. Um, but no, I've been I use um Twitter for a lot of sports things, and I've been looking at all the recruits coming in. Uh-huh. And I've been looking at who's declaring for the draft has been a big thing because I want to know who's declaring your DT. He declared.

SPEAKER_01:

He hasn't declared yet, has he? Or is that today? Put out a little statement on Twitter. No.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. Buckeye Forever, blah, blah, blah. For reals? If I can find it, yeah, I'll show it to you.

SPEAKER_01:

K Mac! No! I was hoping.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, he found it. Never mind.

SPEAKER_01:

It was first thing when I refreshed.

SPEAKER_06:

Is it like the whole screen?

SPEAKER_01:

I was ho I will yeah, I was hoping. I was hoping he'd come back.

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Buckeye Forever, blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_01:

He's a first-round pick, man. He can't come back.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh hopefully to the Bengals.

SPEAKER_01:

The only hope was was that maybe he would like fall to like somebody would tell him he's a second round pick and then he'd come back. But if you're making first round pick money, there's you're not, you're not, shouldn't come back.

SPEAKER_06:

No way he's a he would never be a second round pick. He was too good.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, he's he's all he was the best DT in all of college football. No questions asked.

SPEAKER_06:

Like, so see, this one makes a little more sense. Uh Aiden Darud. The um, I believe that is the Seahawks offensive coordinate coordinator.

SPEAKER_01:

Jar Quest Carter's going in going in the transfer portal now. Malik Hartford's going in the transfer portal. Like everybody's leaving.

SPEAKER_06:

The Browns keep interviewing uh so the Browns also interviewed Auden Darud. The DC for the Seahawks.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06:

That's a much better interview.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh that does not fix the fact their offense is dog shit.

SPEAKER_01:

McDaniels got fired, by the way. Josh McDaniel. The uh who cares? The Miami coach.

SPEAKER_06:

Mike McDaniel.

SPEAKER_01:

Mike McDaniel, sorry. Josh McDaniel is the OC for the for the Patriots. Um, but Mike McDaniel got fired. He got fired. Everybody was questioning why why that hadn't happened yet. And what some podcasts I I watch made the joke is I wonder if the owner realized that McDaniel was black. And then was a lot more okay with firing him.

SPEAKER_06:

Um the Browns have also interviewed uh their current offensive coordinator.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah, the um, yeah, he used to be the OCA at Notre Dame.

SPEAKER_06:

Tommy Rees. Tommy Reese, yeah. Um The Bengals still haven't fired Zach Taylor.

SPEAKER_01:

They still haven't, no. Can I ask you what you think about this this rumor? Remember when I told you on the last pod that um Harbaugh said that he had that his agent said that he had seven teams calling him, but the problem was there's only seven openings at the time, and that includes the Ravens who just fired him. And I'm I'm doubting that they're gonna try to rehire him. So the rumor is that there may be a team that's still playing in the playoffs that may be okay with getting rid of their guy to hire him if things don't go the way they wanted to in the playoffs. Yeah. So if you had to off the top of your head pick three teams.

SPEAKER_06:

One of them, G.

SPEAKER_01:

No.

SPEAKER_06:

It has to be.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, I'm asking you your opinion. So you could pick whatever three teams you want. The three teams you think would be ready to hire Harbaugh if their C if the season does not end the way they want to.

SPEAKER_06:

The Bills?

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. The Jaguars.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh-uh. Who's their head coach?

SPEAKER_01:

They just hired the dude. Who is it? It was the OC at Tampa Bay. He turned them around from having three wins last year to having 11. He's not getting fired. And he turned Trevor Lawrence and actually being good.

SPEAKER_06:

The Bills.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_06:

They their coach kind of he has to go. He can't build an offense where shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, he's not an offensive guy, he's a defensive guy. Couldn't do that either. The defense was top ten, but still. Right. If it he's been, I think him and Josh Allen have broke the record for having the most games together as a head coach and quarterback combo and not making the Super Bowl. Not winning, making the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_03:

The Packers?

SPEAKER_01:

Ooh, that's a that's that's the other good one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03:

The Panthers.

SPEAKER_01:

Panthers, no. I think, if anything, I think we'll get it.

SPEAKER_06:

They wouldn't fire their coach to bring in John Harbaugh. Who's their coach?

SPEAKER_01:

They hired him from freaking. He was hired from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers too. He was their OC before and they hired him. I don't know. Two years in a row, they've had a they've had an OC hired from there to go be a head coach.

SPEAKER_06:

McVay will never lose his job. Nope. It's not the Eagles. It's not. It's not. They're too good. They don't like their coach. And he doesn't do shit.

SPEAKER_01:

And the team doesn't respect him.

SPEAKER_06:

It's not the Seahawks.

SPEAKER_01:

No, Seahawks, no. They have a that's that's a genius.

SPEAKER_06:

That's a genius. It's not the Chargers. No, Harbaugh's. It's not the Niners. Nope. It's not the Broncos. It's not the Patriots.

SPEAKER_01:

And it's not the Steelers because it's like hiring the same guy, except White.

SPEAKER_06:

You're right. It's not the Texans.

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No.

SPEAKER_01:

And it's for sure not the Demico Ryan is a dog.

SPEAKER_06:

And it's for sure not the Bears.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_06:

So I I literally cannot see.

SPEAKER_01:

Literally the news is the Packers being one of the options because every year they've had Jordan Love as their starting quarterback. Do you know where they've been in the playoffs? The seventh seed. They have not been higher than a seventh seed as long as they've had Jordan Love as their starting quarterback. Could that just be the fact they probably played overpaid Jordan Love and thought he was going to be their guy and he really isn't? Maybe. But maybe they want to, they think the head coach may be the problem. Maybe they want to change, right? The other option you said was the Bills. Like I said, that's probably been there too long. Maybe this voice is getting staled.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. The Ravens have also interviewed Davis Webb from the Broncos. He's like 31 years old. The Broncos offensive coordinator. I wouldn't he doesn't do shit either. I don't know if you've seen the Broncos offense. It's not that great, but okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Again, their head coach is um for the Broncos. Come on. Oh no.

SPEAKER_06:

I I do this. I'll try to. Probably a Hall of Fame head coach, if I'm gonna be honest with you.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, it's Sean Payton. There it is. Um Sean Payton is calling the fucking plays. Oh yeah. That OC's not doing shit. You don't do fuck all. That's why he can be. That's why he's in his early 30s as an OC. He's not calling fucking plays. He's doing stuff for the head coach to make sure he's ready on game day to call the fucking plays. He's not calling shit. So I don't know why he's even being looked at as an option. Like, if you're gonna if you're gonna go after these dudes, you better get a guy. If you especially they're gonna be an offensive guy.

SPEAKER_06:

Trinidad uh Chambliss was denied his sixth year of eligibility.

SPEAKER_01:

Um I'm not surprised. We gotta cut it off somewhere, dude. So he is either we have to let open the floodgates and just say every player can play. Do you know what annoyed me about the Miami thing? I'll go I hate to go back to that. Do you know one of their defensive ends is 25 fucking years old?

unknown:

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_01:

No one of these offensive tackles can't stop the guy. He's a grown fucking man.

SPEAKER_06:

He has a mortgage and kids.

SPEAKER_01:

There's a reason why there's a saying about grown man strength, because there's there's real strength you get from being a grown fucking man in comparison to an 18-year-old kid, 18, 19, 20. There's a difference.

SPEAKER_06:

The Browns also interviewed Jim Schwartz, their DC.

SPEAKER_01:

We have to cut the shit off at some point, dude.

SPEAKER_06:

Probably makes more sense. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_01:

Even though he's been a head coach multiple times over and it hasn't worked out.

SPEAKER_06:

So you know but he's a great coordinator. He is a fire fucking coordinator.

SPEAKER_01:

The best thing though, I think there are guys that are better coordinators than they are head coaches. Schwartz works as that. I think he's the he's the Browns DC, right? Um, the McDaniels, the Josh McDaniel, the OC for the Patriots. He's been a head coach twice. It's been terrible. But as an OC, he's good.

SPEAKER_06:

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. No. He was not good. He had Tom Brady.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but he's a he's the OC again with Drake May and it's working out perfectly.

SPEAKER_07:

How the fuck?

SPEAKER_06:

This nigga's confusing. That's confusing shit. How the fuck is he that?

SPEAKER_01:

But he's been a head coach at two different spots and it's been a disaster both times.

SPEAKER_06:

How does he lose his job with what? Okay, let me get this straight. He goes, leaves the Patriots to go coach. Does terrible, gets to go back to the Patriots after like three years, then goes again to a place to go coach after two years, loses his job, then gets to go back to the Patriots?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

This nigga's cheating. He's cheating.

SPEAKER_01:

That's a good OC, but as a as a head coach, he's shit. Um so there's some guys that just aren't ready for the head coach, and maybe that's just not their bag. It's a different set of skills, honestly. I really do think it is. The fact that we're getting head coaches that can also call plays and like do it all well, that those are the superpowered beings because he's like being able having to do it all the McVeighs. It's a lot, it's a lot. The McVeigh's the Shanahans of McVeigh, Shanahan, D'Amico Ryan's. He's calling the defense while being the head coach for Houston. Um, even though they say they they say they have a real defense coordinator, but D'Amico Ryan's has a real hand on all of it. Um the McD McDonald, the D O the head coach for Seattle, he calls the defense. But they call him he's like a genius.

SPEAKER_06:

They're saying he's like with these kind of head coaches, you can't hire their coordinators. Because their coordinators tend to be dog shit.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they're not doing shit.

SPEAKER_06:

But on the opposite, you can hire coordinators for coaches who don't really call plays. Oh, yeah. That's the trick, is go back go hire the genius.

SPEAKER_01:

If you had to go back, if if these teams could go back and like fire their head coach to hire the whiz kid, OC or DC, do you think the Lions would do it with firing Dan Campbell and getting um Ben Johnson? Do you think that the Ravens would hire a har would fire Harbaugh for uh for um well I just said Lily just said his name. Mike McDaniel. Nope.

SPEAKER_07:

Nope.

SPEAKER_01:

Donald, McDonald. Um McDonald, the coach for Seattle.

SPEAKER_07:

There you go.

SPEAKER_01:

And then who was the other coach I was thinking of? Yeah, I know. I I literally just said his name just fine. Mike McDonald is his name. Um and then there was another one too. That there was like the just the genius. Oh, I already said the for the Lions. I already said that. That's pretty much it. Those are the two big ones. Heck, Tampa Bay both times. Now with watching their OC go to the Jags and turn around Trevor Lawrence, and under that OC was the best that Baker looked. You if you had him as that coach.

SPEAKER_02:

We let Brian Flores just be our linebackers' coach. Yeah, you're telling me. I'm heated. Oh, apparently he's not there.

SPEAKER_01:

He's out there too. Yeah. They're saying he might be an answer for for the Raiders. Because Tom Brady's there, maybe he wants maybe he did it the not Patriot way long enough, and now that he's owner, he's like, hey, let's go ahead and get the Patriot way over here, and we'll see if we can figure it out that way. And maybe make him the that is not a job. I don't want that shit.

SPEAKER_06:

We went over it last time uh we potted. That's the worst job out there. I don't uh Adam Schefter, is that who it is? White dude, silver hair? Wrong guy then.

SPEAKER_01:

No. You're talking about the coach?

SPEAKER_06:

No, no. He's uh an insider? He's a personality. Sometimes he has great takes, sometimes he has the most ass take.

SPEAKER_01:

You said silver hair?

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah. Bright blue eyes. Older dude.

SPEAKER_01:

He does it on on ESPN?

SPEAKER_06:

I don't know. I watch him on TikTok.

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You watch him on TikTok?

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, Colin Cowherd.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said the Raiders is the second best job, and I was like, dude, shut the fuck up. Are you high? You must be high. That's the worst job out there.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't that's why I like I find his hot takes funny because he's not married to anything. He doesn't give a fuck. He'll say he's wrong. He don't give a fuck. He'll say he's wrong. He's like, ah, I tried. What do you want me to do?

SPEAKER_06:

He pisses me off that he has his take immediately. As soon as he's wrong, he switches it.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, he's he'll say he's wrong. He has no question about that, but he's not gonna take it hard. He's like, Yep, that one was wrong. I'm I guess what it is, what it is.

SPEAKER_06:

But also he'll say the most blasphemous shit I've done.

SPEAKER_01:

And it pisses me off, and then I realize, like, oh, this dude don't even fucking care. Why am I getting pissed? Why am I getting pissed off about a take he don't even fucking care about?

SPEAKER_06:

I'm like, this nigga's trolling. He's trolling. He does not he does not believe that. He does not believe that. He is lying, right?

SPEAKER_01:

And even if he does, he only can he only cares a little bit.

SPEAKER_06:

A little bit. And I do like that in a way, but I also hate it a little bit.

SPEAKER_01:

He does it because he'll be able to dance in the end if he's right. But if he's wrong, he's like, eh, can't hit them all. But he doesn't yump so much.

SPEAKER_07:

I'm like, bro, at least own it.

SPEAKER_01:

It is refreshing. Him and um Nick Wright also, they literally the exact same mindset when it comes to takes.

SPEAKER_06:

I think my least favorite, I guess, personality is Stephen A.

SPEAKER_01:

Smith. I hate him.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't like anybody that commentates and talks about basketball. Because they believe they're all the smartest people in the world and that all their takes are right. Oh yeah, that's crazy. In a way that there's less guys in football that do it because there's so much more parody that happens.

SPEAKER_01:

Like you're gonna be wrong a lot more than you're right.

SPEAKER_06:

Basketball. They'll say uh I don't know. Sometimes Stephen A. Smith, like he's talking, is one who is the one motherfucker old dude he basically doesn't have a shot because he said some stupid shit. He was with Stephen A. Smith for a long time and he's with Shannon Sharp.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh skip.

SPEAKER_06:

Skip!

SPEAKER_01:

Skip Aylus.

SPEAKER_06:

Some of the worst fucking takes.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Shaq is not top five. Nick is shut the shit.

SPEAKER_01:

He made he made a whole personality out of being a being a LeBron hater. He made a career out of it, seriously.

SPEAKER_06:

And I he does it.

SPEAKER_01:

All the power to him, but you know.

SPEAKER_06:

As soon as he his co-stars leave him, he kind of does.

SPEAKER_01:

He does he does a he does a podcast. He does um he does a podcast now.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't care. Oh, happy birthday, uh Chad Otasinka. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01:

Former Bangle. Okay, I get it. I get I get why you're saying it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

And I wanted to talk about it. It's his birthday today.

SPEAKER_01:

Was it yesterday or today? It's today. Okay, because I've seen all the videos come out of him like drinking uh Shannon's alcohol on the podcast, and he like takes cognac straight to the brain. And I'm like, oh, that's him as easy. Shannon's like, don't hold that! You gotta have a chase or something. And next thing you know, he has a Red Bull. He's like, Don't you have a like soda or something? He's like, no, I got nothing in the fridge.

SPEAKER_06:

This dude is insane. Okay, this is the same dude that was taking Viagra before at any. So I I I trust it.

SPEAKER_01:

And and claims that eating McDonald's and eating eating real meat and eating bad food is gonna be good for your career?

SPEAKER_06:

Uh apparently it was. He was never super injured. It worked for him. He was never super injured. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

He's willing to fight that to the to the death. Like he's willing to fight it.

SPEAKER_06:

How do we tell him he's wrong? It worked for him. It worked for him.

SPEAKER_01:

It worked for him, man. It worked.

SPEAKER_06:

So it's I don't know, man. Insane. Again, it was just I hate commentators who I hate basketball commentators. ESPN was up on my TV because I wanted to watch NFO games.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

And they were on ESPN, and I have ESPN Plus. The commentators came up. That's just Matt Ryan. And it's Matt Ryan and like three other.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's CBS.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't know. It's Matt Ryan and three other motherfuckers. Yeah. The three other motherfuckers are stupid.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, they do the CBS broad. It's a CBS broadcast.

SPEAKER_06:

The three other dudes are stupid. Matt Ryan will be saying something, and then somebody else started talking, he'll just look at me like Yeah. And Matt Ryan would keep talking, and I'm like, fuck, he's funny. Matt Ryan's kind of funny in his own dry, humor-funny way. Yeah. Yeah. And I kind of like watching him.

SPEAKER_01:

Because they had like the mentality of like, I actually know football, and like some of these dudes really don't. But again, it can go too far because Ryan, uh Ryan Clark kept getting into trouble because he kept talking shit about people. He's like, oh, because we're football players. Like, well, people that don't play football can know the game of football. Some of your best head coaches in the NFL right now never played a fucking down in the NFL.

SPEAKER_06:

Which is true, but Ryan Clark was on TV with motherfuckers that did not know football.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but he was talking about the one dude, um uh Peter Schrager. He's one of the best NFL guys in all of like all of TV.

SPEAKER_06:

He was also on TV with some shitty fucking person. Like, they did not know football. It's not like uh Yeah, but he's talking about him specifically.

SPEAKER_01:

He's like, oh, you're coming at it from a guy who's never played football before.

SPEAKER_06:

It's Rob Ronkowski, Teddy Bridgewater. No, Teddy.

SPEAKER_01:

Any show with Bob Ronkowski, I will not watch. No, it's oh he's oh the the pregame show. Yeah. For that's her fox. And who is it's him. Teddy Bradshaw was there, but I'm not sure if he's still there. Gary Bradshaw. I said Teddy Bradshaw.

SPEAKER_06:

He is still there. Um it's his last year. It's his last year. And there's like three other guys, and they all there's five total. They all know football really well.

SPEAKER_01:

Because they all play. They're all of them are players, except for the one black dude that's like the main host guy.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, but real quick, he knows football. Yeah. Oh, he's just went out on football his whole life. That's one of my favorite ones to watch. Because sometimes Gronk adds helpful things, sometimes he's just too much. And he is, and he's made a career out of it.

SPEAKER_01:

He's he's a blockhead, dude.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh, real quick, I would watch him fucking call a game before I watch Brady call another one. At least it'd be fun.

SPEAKER_01:

Maybe for very different reasons.

SPEAKER_06:

It would be, but Brady sucks ass at calling.

SPEAKER_01:

He's so bad.

SPEAKER_06:

But at least I can I can watch Gronk and be like, you're not entirely stupid, but you're stupid.

SPEAKER_01:

But he can't form sentences. That's the problem.

SPEAKER_06:

He can't, but he's kind of funny.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but it's funny in a way because I'm laughing at him, not because I'm laughing with him.

SPEAKER_06:

And that's the thing. He's made money with him.

SPEAKER_01:

He has. He's made a lot of money, but I just don't want to have to hear the guy talk for two and a half hours. Straight, no thanks.

SPEAKER_06:

Nothing beats college game day. Nothing beats that.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh College game day. Game day. Um when it comes to an when it comes to announcers, I would go with freaking like my favorite one is probably Greg Olson.

SPEAKER_06:

I dude, I fucking love Greg Olson. He knows what he's fucking doing. He's personable. He's the perfect announcer with the I have the football mindset of I played football. Yeah. Um, I hate Chris Collinsworth. I hope he gets. Oh yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh I hate Tony Romo. I hope he fucking gets. Go fuck yourself. I swear to fucking god, why does it every fucking year I'm playing the Bills and Patriots? And if I don't have one, I have the fucking other. I how this I think we didn't play the Bills this year.

SPEAKER_01:

No.

SPEAKER_06:

But we played somebody else large that was a decent opponent early in the year when we didn't have Burrow. Kansas City? We yeah. Or you saw Burrow at that point. No, it was the first game without Burrow. Oh. There you go. And it was Chris Collinsworth.

SPEAKER_01:

Heck, even when Collinsworth is not doing a not doing a game with one of those great quarterbacks, he'll mention them. Like he's shut the fuck up, bro. It's so bad he mentioned it in he actually made a joke about himself because, like, I see all the memes. You're self-aware.

SPEAKER_07:

And you still do it. I remember just on Twitter. You gotta think about me. Like, what the fuck are you doing? And you continue to do it. It's one thing to think he's just an old man that doesn't know any better. He just likes this player. This is intentional.

unknown:

Intentional.

SPEAKER_07:

This motherfucker. You can't love one dude every day. I'm watching Bears fucking lions. What are we talking about, Mahomes?

SPEAKER_01:

He's not in this division. I have to hear him say Mahomesian. He's he looks real Mahomesian, man.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh my god. He's real Mahomie-like. Shut the fuck up. Sorry, I hate Chris Collinsworth. And it sucks because he's a good announcer. Yeah. Chris Collinsworth is a great fucking announcer. I love listening. He's real nasally, though. That's the part that gets too much. And that's fine. Apparently, so are we. I listened to the podcast back. Apparently we are as well. He must not think he sounds like that. But apparently me and you talking like a ton. I don't know, gang.

SPEAKER_01:

You kind of sounded like Squidward out here.

SPEAKER_06:

But again, that's how we fucking sound. And when I talk normally, I don't I feel I don't sound that nasally.

SPEAKER_01:

No, you're not that no, I don't think you're that bad.

SPEAKER_06:

And I neither are you. On podcasts, we sound like fucking Squidward. Yeah, no doubt. Sound like we were talking like this. Oh, fuck my cat. Like, what are we doing? No doubt. Um, but yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to go on this tangent. I I uh hate Carl Morgan.

SPEAKER_01:

I get it, bro. I do. I totally understand. Totally understand. And Brady, I just hate like everything, maybe he'll get good at some point when everything stops being so it feels like every other sentence out of his mouth. Like when I played, I'm like, yeah, fucking Tom Brady, we all know that you're considered the GOAT. You played a lot of years in NFL. Yeah, I get that, but I'm just like at some point you're gonna have to realize, like, this is I guess t I guess Tony Romo had to learn this lesson too. Like, once he was out of the league for so long, and that he doesn't know everything off the top of his head anymore, he stopped being the whiz kid, and now you have to actually have something else to you other than being able to call the plays before they happen. You have to be a good announcer. You actually have to do the job.

SPEAKER_06:

Fuck Greg Olsen was probably an announcer, like his first year out at the NFL.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, Greg Olson's really good. I like college game. I hate that Tom Brady took the one number one spot over him.

SPEAKER_06:

Like, I really dude, it pisses me off.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh college game day is fun. Watching fucking Sabin and McAfee. Oh, yeah, for sure. The two worse fucking personalities to ever put on a show together. Yeah. It works, and there's times where Sabin's looking at this dude like, what the fuck is he doing? I'm not being paid enough for this. I want to go home. Like, it looks Saban looks like an old man of Pat's doing stuff, and Saban looks like I'm not he looks like he's not he's being underpaid. Yeah. He has to fucking leave.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you know what I okay? I do have one thing to say about Saban before we we're gonna go to the NFL real quick. We're not gonna be here much longer. I had somebody I was watching brought up the point that the reason Nick Saban left college football was not because was was mainly because he did not want to have to worry about renegotiating with players anymore. Okay. And this dude makes the claim that Nick Saban was not doing all the winning that he was doing because he was the best coach of all time and that he was doing it off his own merit. He was he was making the claim that everywhere he had been, he had got to profit off of doing college football in the way of like, hey, we're gonna give you a nice car, but then I'm gonna motherfuck you for the next four years until you go to the NFL. Pretty much the guy made the claim that Nick Saban was only doing it because he was able to do it in an underhanded way and get all the players that he wanted. And then as soon as now all the talent's being spread all throughout the all of college football now, and that he would not be able to dominate the way that he did, and that he decided I'm gonna get the fuck out because I'm not gonna be able to do the same thing that I did if the talent is actually equated throughout all of college football. How if you had to put it from like a one to a hundred, or like how true do you think that is?

SPEAKER_06:

Fuck that. I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_01:

But he was he but throughout especially his Alabama years, it was overwhelming how much more talent he had in comparison to everybody else. He was like getting number one recruiting classes every fucking year.

SPEAKER_06:

But again, he was winning. He was winning, but uh back when he was recruiting, that's what mattered is wins and brand name and coach name.

SPEAKER_01:

True.

SPEAKER_06:

Um and then now that that didn't that became of it also it was brand name, coach name, and who can give me to the NFL. Alabama was pumping players out, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

No question. And then it but they were getting mostly five stars out.

SPEAKER_06:

It wasn't like they were getting three stars and turning them into these five-star players who are like, hey, I want to go to Alabama. That's true. That's the year in, year out, they're a top five team in college football.

SPEAKER_01:

Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Of they're gonna be in the championship hoax every year.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

So I believe that even if they were giving cars and shit to other to some players, which they probably were.

SPEAKER_01:

To most of them. Oh, I wouldn't doubt.

SPEAKER_06:

Again, cool. But I wouldn't doubt that other schools weren't also doing that, but you need to have more behind that. That car is not gonna get this because back when he was doing all of this, they don't make money until they get to the NFL. So that car and whatever they're giving is not going to help them in the long run. Oh, yeah, it's it's short term. All short term. In a way that like now it's who is the highest bidder. Yeah, no question.

SPEAKER_01:

So I think it's a He's done a lot more in the open. Now everybody gets to everybody gets everybody gets a nice call. Gets to participate. Yeah. So now all the schools are doing.

SPEAKER_06:

But he also had to have all the other shit to back him up.

SPEAKER_01:

I I just I I can I just think there is some credence to the idea that Nick Sable would not be able to have the reign if he started again, if he was the same coach and everything, and he started again right now, just like him and Urban, I put them both in the same aspect, the way they coach, and the way that it's my way or the highway, they would not be able to survive with all these players having actually having real leverage to be like, hey, coach, I know you're the best of all time, but I'm gonna need another million and a half, or I'm leaving. I think there really there is some aspect of that where I think that there is some validity to it.

SPEAKER_06:

Maybe there is, maybe there isn't.

SPEAKER_01:

But here's the thing, Nick Same did it at the perfect time, but we'll never fucking know.

SPEAKER_06:

We'll never know. So what's it matter?

SPEAKER_01:

It was the perfect time.

SPEAKER_06:

It doesn't matter. So it doesn't fucking yeah, you're right. I get to go out as the greatest of all time. Nothing you can do about it now.

SPEAKER_01:

That's true. And he gets to make a ton of money to go do college football uh Saturdays with Pat McAfee and look at him like he's a fucking idiot. Didn't say he timed it perfectly. I'm not gonna lie to you.

SPEAKER_06:

Year in, year out, for like probably like like five, six years, teams will come to me begging me to come.

SPEAKER_01:

And it was also, and I also backed it up by they were talking about the other call in college basketball because it's even worse. Think about all the greatest basketball coaches of all time. They all pretty much retired at the same exact fucking time. Pretty much everybody except for Tom Mizzo, who was a coach for Michigan State. Everybody other than him, they all retired. They all got in coach uh Caliperi. Those are the two. Like those are the two stuck around. All the other like big name legendary coaches that were coaching all got out. Because think about their job gets a lot harder when the when the talent gets to get spread out all throughout the landscape a lot more.

SPEAKER_06:

Michigan State still gets a lot of good recruits.

SPEAKER_01:

But it's still not the same, dude. Again, it's it's not even just the fact that what you can get, it's the fact that you have to now renegotiate every single fucking year, and that's the part that makes it a lot harder.

SPEAKER_06:

But it does help. This is where I actually because I I've been watching a lot of Michigan State basketball because I don't watch their football. Um we're a really good team right now. And it does help that year in, year out Michigan State is either in the Sweet 16 or in the Elite Eight. Um but again we continue to get I think in our last year's class, we came in with like nine four star recruits. Nine four star recruits, I think a couple three stars, and I think like one or two two stars who are like defensive guys. But again, that's a Lot of four stars.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_06:

None of like the premiere players. Yeah. That those always go to the Dukes. Yeah, for sure. The fucking the Blue Bloods. The New States up there in the middle of the UConn. Yeah. But we're not up there in the world.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

We're not gracing a top four. Yeah, for sure. Every year. We're not a Kansas. We're not a Duke. We're not a Yukon. We're not those guys.

SPEAKER_01:

Florida. Florida now's coming back again.

SPEAKER_06:

We're not those guys. Yeah. We're having to get recruits from everywhere in the Midwest. And we can't really go down to Florida because there's too many teams down there.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Um, but you're right. There's some. There, that's why I'm saying 35%.

SPEAKER_01:

I think it's like close to like 40, 45, man.

SPEAKER_06:

And that's okay. But I just think you had to have everything else behind it for it to work like that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, maybe. Again, like you said, I think you're the perfect point. He got out the perfect time, so we'll never fucking know. We'll never know. All we'll have is all the all he has is all the rings that he has on his fingers. Wait, while he because he dominated. It doesn't fucking matter. You're right. Alright. We'll go ahead and get to the games here. There's only six games to talk about, so let's go ahead and get to it. Was there really any stories? Hold on, let me check just to make sure. Nothing to say about that real quick. No, I'm not seeing anything. Oh, the um Rasheed Rice, his girlfriend, posts all the things about how she he's been like beating her for a while. Another hit to Kansas City's whole thing, man. They just keep having players doing some stupid shit.

SPEAKER_06:

Is Kelsey retiring or not?

SPEAKER_01:

They have nobody's saying, dude. Who knows? Again, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna place any type of create like I'm just not gonna care about it until it happens. Once it happens, I'll give him his thanks. He was a great player, awesome player. Um, but until then, I'm not gonna sit here and like care. I'm just not. I again watching all those games with them talking about it the whole time, it just turned me off of the whole thing. He'll be forgotten entirely. Guess what?

SPEAKER_06:

I don't care.

SPEAKER_01:

He gets to go be he gets to go be the trophy husband.

unknown:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01:

Insane to a billionaire. To a fucking billionaire.

SPEAKER_06:

In my brain, I don't care. He's from what he was over the last 13 years, yeah. He was special.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Because he was a unique kind of tight end.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

You were just a vertical threat tight end.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

In a way that like, you get guys like um Antonio Gates. Um Antonio Gonzalez.

SPEAKER_01:

You know Antonio Gates is top five in touchdowns catches?

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Insane. Insane.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh Tony Gonzalez, um for the Saints.

SPEAKER_01:

I I know exactly what you're talking about, but I forget his name.

SPEAKER_06:

Blake perfect and colored. Yeah. He told me we gotta stop dunking on the thing because they be bent it once.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes. Um I forget his name. I don't know what you expected from me.

SPEAKER_04:

For the one time, I don't have a name. You never have it. It's the other thing that makes me so fucking mad.

SPEAKER_06:

If I forget a name, we're never getting it back. You know his name.

SPEAKER_01:

I know his name is it's on my brain, dude.

SPEAKER_06:

There, I know who he is.

SPEAKER_01:

What's his name? I feel like it starts with a J or something. No, it doesn't.

SPEAKER_02:

It's their current one starts with a J.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Um It does.

SPEAKER_06:

It's Jeremy Graham. Yes. Yes. Uh they were the utility. Yes, Jeremy Graham.

SPEAKER_01:

Jeremy Graham?

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, Jeremy Graham. Jimmy.

SPEAKER_01:

Jimmy Graham. It's Jeremy Graham. Okay.

SPEAKER_06:

Um they were still utility tight ends. They had to do other shit in a way that he didn't have to.

SPEAKER_01:

Jimmy Graham did not. He was not utility. He was a straight up wide receiver in a tight end's body. That's it.

SPEAKER_06:

Right. In a way that what I see guys like Travis Kelsey all the time now.

SPEAKER_01:

Right, yeah. It's a new thing.

SPEAKER_06:

Like you like if Brock Bowers is on the pace, he's going, you know, we'll forget his name in 10 years.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, Brock Bowers, yes. He's he's not there to be anything else but a guy to catch football. He's not blocking at all. Real quick, move his bitch ass to receiver.

SPEAKER_06:

That motherfucker is too skinny to be a tight end. He's little. Yeah, but he's bigger than all the safeties you know how to face. But then my brain goes, I see why Darnell Washington was his backup. They needed somebody to block. Yeah. Because he was not doing that shit. True. That motherfucker Darnard Washington's a monster.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, he is. They're starting to use him more and more as an actual receiver, and when he and he's good. It's scary. Maybe lose a few pounds.

SPEAKER_06:

Why did he I watched him hurdle a man? They say why can six foot seven, 330 pounds jump fuck out of you with that shit.

SPEAKER_01:

He came out because they his listed weight is like 280. He came out on a podcast. He's like, I'm more like 315. Like, yeah, that probably fits a little bit more. He's running over everybody that ever tries to tackle him. Nobody's really taking him down. He just falls.

SPEAKER_06:

I think y'all are playing Dallas.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Three motherfuckers hit him and he's just dragging a motherfucker.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. No doubt.

SPEAKER_06:

That's not fair.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, no doubt. It's insane. It's insane. Alright, let's get to the games here. Um, we have six games. The two teams that are on by this week because they have the number one overall seed. For the NFC side, it's gonna be the Seattle Seahawks. And then for the AFC side, it is the Denver Broncos. So everybody else is gonna be playing this weekend. You're gonna have three games on Saturday. Two games on Saturday. Two games on Saturday, three games on Sunday, and then you have the Monday night game. So we're gonna go through all the games, make our picks, and do it that way, and then we'll go from there. That'll be pretty much be the end of our pod. So let's go through it. First game is gonna be the LA Rams, number five seed LA Rams, at the number four seed Carolina Panthers. They put this at the first game on Saturday because they don't give a fuck. They're like, hey, Rams are probably gonna roll. And so we're just gonna put this at the non-primetime slot.

SPEAKER_06:

Let them niggas lose, I will lose my shit. Oh, yeah, for sure. They shouldn't, though. They shouldn't. I'm gonna go Rams.

SPEAKER_01:

I as well. And this is the question I have to ask you about the Panthers, real quick. Do you think it'll be better for the Panthers if they win or lose this game?

SPEAKER_03:

Lose.

SPEAKER_01:

It's lose because if they win, they'll have to have the No, that's not even just that. They might actually have to think about keeping Bryce Young. They'll have to give him his fifth-year option, and then they're gonna have to really think about signing him if he wins them the playoff game. Because they're like, oh, he won you a playoff game. So now they're gonna be forced to have to like think actually think about keeping him. But if they lose, it'll they'll get off him a lot faster.

SPEAKER_06:

See if he can get better.

SPEAKER_01:

Or they just get off him altogether. Because I don't think maybe again, a fifth-year option, you're getting paid like 38, like 30 in the middle 30s million dollars. He's not worth that. He's not. He's just not.

unknown:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01:

Don't do this. I thought we came to a conclusion that Bryce Young ain't that good. Don't do this.

SPEAKER_06:

He got better over the year.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, you're so you're gonna you okay. So no, you you would you wouldn't take him as a your quarterback before you starting your team. If you had to start your team, how far would you get before you get to Bryce Young? We'll just start with the we'll just stick with the 32 quarterbacks that are starting. Because if we were just going quarterbacks overall, I think there's probably like 40 quarterbacks I would take before I get to Bryce Young. I would take some backups before I get to Bryce Young. You hate.

SPEAKER_06:

That's straight hate. Okay. That's hate.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, fine.

SPEAKER_06:

That's hate.

SPEAKER_01:

He's not good.

SPEAKER_06:

That's hate. That is straight hate.

SPEAKER_01:

Next game, Green Bay at Chicago.

SPEAKER_06:

That's crazy, Yamante. That's straight hate. Chicago.

SPEAKER_01:

You take Chicago?

SPEAKER_06:

Chicago whips our ass.

SPEAKER_01:

But Green Bay will be healthy.

SPEAKER_06:

I think Green Bay's lost twice to Chicago.

SPEAKER_01:

No, they split.

SPEAKER_06:

That Green Bay offense should not have split into Chicago.

SPEAKER_01:

I think so. I think it was a split.

SPEAKER_05:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

You're gonna take Chicago?

SPEAKER_05:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

You're not worried about the fact Chicago's defense is absolute dog shit at all?

SPEAKER_05:

Green Bay isn't that good.

SPEAKER_01:

Green Bay's is better. They can actually- not every game.

SPEAKER_05:

And Jordan Love likes to be shit during Big Bay.

SPEAKER_01:

And here's my and here's the thing. I think do you think there's a chance Green Bay can actually control this game by running the football? And just making timely plays. I think because Green Bay, I think, on the offensive lines of scrimmage, I think they're better on both. I think they're better offensive line, I think they're better defensive line.

SPEAKER_05:

They did split. Not by a lot.

SPEAKER_01:

You think Chicago wins, huh? See, I want to pick Green Bay. Chicago doesn't have fun. But again, they can pass all day long. And again, they might have a bunch of number two receivers, but a bunch of number two receivers can go really well against that Chicago defense.

SPEAKER_06:

They played Chicago recently and lost, and they played like Jordan Love did not play. Yes, he did. He had hurt in that game.

SPEAKER_01:

He got hurt in that game, but he didn't play the like the last Malik Willis played better than he did. Yes, Malik Willis came out and played well.

SPEAKER_06:

He played better than he did.

SPEAKER_01:

But I think at their best, I think Jordan Love's a better quarterback. Again, I don't think that much highly of Jordan Love, but like I think I could be pretty confident and say he's better than Malik Willis. Willis at their best. I'm taking Chicago as well. I just think the idea that Jordan Love hasn't played in weeks and then he's gonna come out and now play well against Chicago, that's the part that's especially with Chicago being at home. I'll take Chicago to win that game as well. Next game, Buffalo at Jacksonville. Josh Allen really needs his fucking game, dude. He cannot get taken out in the first round against Trevor Fucking Lawrence and the Jacksonville Jaguars. You're taking Jacksonville, dude?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. I'm taking Jacksonville. I think this nigga gets balanced.

SPEAKER_01:

You really think so?

SPEAKER_06:

Oh yeah. There's nothing in life's too good. You get to marry Haley Seinfeld and be a mediocre quarterback. Fuck you.

SPEAKER_01:

He's not mediocre. You may hate him, but he's not mediocre. How many? You're a hater. You're a hater.

SPEAKER_06:

How many S championships have you seen?

SPEAKER_01:

I'm just saying, you're being a hater right now. He's not mediocre.

SPEAKER_06:

You better see.

SPEAKER_01:

He may not be in your top five, but he's a top ten quarterback without a question.

SPEAKER_05:

Loser's game? I'm a question. Trevor Fucking Lawrence?

SPEAKER_01:

It's only because you hate him in the first place, not because you actually think that.

SPEAKER_05:

Loser's game. How dare you?

SPEAKER_06:

This nigga won't be in my top 15 going into next year. My boy. Because Trevor Lawrence is barely in the top 15. Because he was so mediocre.

SPEAKER_01:

True.

SPEAKER_06:

He had a really good year this year, but like let Josh Allen lose his game right here, boy. Let me tell you.

SPEAKER_01:

I think Jackson feels like a two and a half point favorite. One and a half point favorite. No, they're they're underdog. Buffalo's a favorite coming into this game.

SPEAKER_05:

That was a mistake. Buffalo was good at one time. That's in the fourth quarter when they're down.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, here's here's my only question to you is do you think you can trust Trevor?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah. More than Josh Allen.

SPEAKER_06:

Real quick, I try to trust, I uh I'm gonna take Buffalo. Go ahead. I didn't trust Josh Allen during that Eagles game, and I want some money on that. Because that nigga blew the pass.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, but that deep the Eagles defense is much different than what Jacksonville has. That was a wide open pass, bro. It was wide open. That pass was wide open, but the whole game, the Eagles' defense did cause the stru most like a lot of the struggle that Josh Allen had in that game. The last pass, notwithstanding, he totally missed. Um, but I'll take Buffalo to win that game. Why not?

SPEAKER_07:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

I just think I can't trust Trevor. I gotta see it first.

SPEAKER_07:

Okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Um, next game, San Fran going to Philly.

SPEAKER_05:

Next game. Go to the next game.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, LA Chargers at New England.

SPEAKER_05:

Let's go to the next game.

SPEAKER_01:

Houston at Pittsburgh.

SPEAKER_06:

Fuck.

SPEAKER_01:

Three tough games, I know, right?

SPEAKER_06:

Um give me Philadelphia, the Patriots, and Pittsburgh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Philadelphia, the Patriots, and Pittsburgh. Why do you say Philadelphia for San Fran against San Fran?

SPEAKER_03:

That defense is crazy.

SPEAKER_01:

That defense is crazy. But my only problem is can Philly put up even a mediocre offensive performance finally.

SPEAKER_06:

Is that San Franse doesn't have any type of receiver that's okay? They're best receivers.

SPEAKER_01:

Brandon Jennings is good.

SPEAKER_06:

Who?

SPEAKER_01:

Brandon Jennings?

SPEAKER_06:

Juwan Jennings.

SPEAKER_01:

Juwan Jennings. Ah, Brandon Jennings is a totally different different wide receiver.

SPEAKER_06:

Nigga, that's a basketball player.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh yeah, it is. From like five years ago. He played on the play on Milwaukee. Yeah! He was a buck. Yeah. What the fuck are you talking? Juwan Jennings. And Christian McCaffrey, you gotta include him?

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, they sacrificed their team to keep him healthy.

SPEAKER_01:

And they and they'll also have um George Kittle. George Kittle. And I was thinking of the white boy receiver. That's really good. That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_06:

He's from the Gators.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Shot. Ricky Pearsall.

SPEAKER_01:

Ricky Pearsall Jr., yes. They have again they again. Sam Fran's defense is ass. Their defense is so bad. Defense is so bad.

SPEAKER_06:

Their defense isn't injured.

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They do have a lot of guys missing, but their defense is ass. Not like both things can be true at the same time. So that is something I'm worried about. But the Philly can't has not put up a good offensive performance. They haven't scored over over like 24 points since like week three.

SPEAKER_06:

But you know what San Fran can't stop right now? The running of the ball. So all you need to do is have that motherfucker, Jalen Hurt, turn. Give the ball to Saquon.

SPEAKER_01:

San Fren is out, means Philly is at home.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm choosing Philly because that defense is so dominant of their dominant enough. That defense is dominant enough.

SPEAKER_01:

Their defense has found it again, for sure.

SPEAKER_06:

So that's why I'm going with Philly, and especially with CMC's gonna be their biggest weapon, and there's nowhere to run that ball on that defense. Yeah. They are crashing as soon as he get the ball out. And then Jalen Carter has been so good that they're gonna snap the ball and he's gonna be in his fucking face.

SPEAKER_01:

Not to mention, Philly got to rest all of their guys last week. All their guys they had to play for it. And San Fran was playing for the number one overall seed and they played their hearts out. And lost to Seattle.

SPEAKER_06:

That's why I'm giving Philly the edge.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. Alright. I agree with you there. I'll take Philly as well.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm picking New England because I just feel like the Chargers.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm not taking the Chargers. Fuck that. The Chargers just They are so herbo centric that Herbo is so inept.

SPEAKER_06:

Can he turn it on? I've never seen it. But that's the thing. He can turn it on in a normal game, but I've never seen him turn it on in the playoffs. And I'm not going to bet on him again. Exactly. I'm not betting on him doing it this time.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm going to take, I just think Dewing's a little better overall. I think Drake May is on a heater right now. I'm not even saying that Drake May is going to be necessarily play great in this game. No. But I think he'll play good enough, and I think he has enough other pieces around him to where I think they should probably get the job done. But I don't know. Again, they they actually might be able to do something with uh Ladd McConkey. Because they'll have to throw Christian Christian Gonzalez on somebody else.

SPEAKER_06:

They better not. A lot of plays in the slot.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. And Quentin Johnston, Quentin Johnson actually is kind of good.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, they just give him, hey, all you're gonna do is run straight and then turn to see the ball.

SPEAKER_01:

He can actually make some big plays, and Keenan Allen has been helpful. Again, he's not being not a number one anymore, so him being what he is is not that bad. But like he's helpful. I don't know. And in uh their running back, I forget his name. That they just drafted. Um I forget his name. Um, but New England, I'll take New England to win that game. Last game, Houston at Pittsburgh. You took Pittsburgh. I'm gonna take Pittsburgh as well. Actually, no. No.

SPEAKER_09:

Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_01:

I I'm not gonna do this. I'm not gonna fucking do this. You're gonna take Pittsburgh because you don't care either way. You don't care about being wrong.

SPEAKER_06:

I I know I believe in this fucking game. Because I believe that Houston offense is so fucking finicky, and I believe your defense has been playing pretty well. Yeah, you've been playing consistent football, but that Houston offense is almost a net half the time. It is that defense is and they're really bad in the red zone. That that's but that's their biggest issue. They are in a way they're terrible in the red zone that you guys can score, you guys can get points, you get DK back, half back.

SPEAKER_01:

Can we I'm saying, can our offensive line hold up against that front seven of Houston? I have so fucking. And that's my fucking problem.

SPEAKER_06:

But Aaron Rodgers is a baller, and that boy showed it last year that he's still a baller.

SPEAKER_01:

Other than the Cleveland game, the last like five or six weeks he's been playing very well.

SPEAKER_06:

He's a baller. And I want to give you guys, yeah, that and I want to see you guys get the second round so your pick gets worse. I just want to see.

SPEAKER_01:

You're rooting for them, but you're also rooting for my eventual downfall.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, I think it's fucking hilarious how you guys can't fire Tomlin because you're back in the playoffs. We just keep going. Um get any better because you're back in the playoffs and you're picking in the mid-20s again. Again, dude. Again, you're picking in the mid-20s. Um, but he like, you know, good on you guys.

SPEAKER_01:

You're an ass. You're an ass. I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Houston because that front seven is gonna be absolutely monstrous. And maybe, maybe, somehow, some way, Pittsburgh can find a way to get some offense going. Maybe DK Metcalf's gonna be a little bit too big for um Derek Stingley Jr. to cover because Derek Stingley is a little bit of a smaller corner, and DK will be able to bod catch some body balls against him and just be able to box him out kind of like a basketball player.

SPEAKER_06:

The DK Metcalf trade was not as bad as I anticipated. It was not as bad. It was not a great trade by any means.

SPEAKER_01:

I think with a better quarterback, I think the trade could be better.

SPEAKER_06:

But it's just agree, but it was not horrendous. What did you guys give up?

SPEAKER_01:

A second round pick.

SPEAKER_06:

Ooh.

SPEAKER_01:

Again, a DK Metcalf is as good as whatever second round receiver you were going to pick up. Better, probably, than whatever second round receiver you were going to pick up.

SPEAKER_00:

A second round receiver probably wouldn't have fought fans.

SPEAKER_01:

True. That is the one thing I have to totally put on him. That was his mistake. That's his bad. Totally on him. But I also think that maybe he comes out because of that and he wants to prove that he can be a contributing member to the team. Maybe, possibly. I'm not sure. But I'm I just think Houston defensively is gonna be a little bit too much for Pittsburgh to be able to handle. And again, if I'm wrong, I'll be happy to be wrong. And I'm not sitting here rooting for Houston to win that game, but I will, I just think Houston's defense is gonna be a little bit too much for the Steelers to handle. But I will make, I will state this claim one more time. Whichever team wins this game will be will have a really good path to maybe get all the way to the Super Bowl. Not win it, but get to the Super Bowl. I'm just saying, because neither team, whoever wins, is gonna be facing a team, a defense like who they are who they have just faced. So whatever team wins this game is gonna have a real chance to go on a run here. But I'm gonna take Houston because I say I think that defense is gonna be a little bit too much for Aaron Rodgers in the offensive line to handle. That's it. So that's all the games. Um we talked about everything else we could possibly talk about in this um On this pod today. We're going to do the recap of tonight's College Football semifinal game on the next pod next week on Tuesday, as well as all these games that are going to be coming up this weekend in the NFL and the wildcard weekend. So that's about it. You got anything else you want to talk about before we get out of here?

SPEAKER_08:

I'm cool, bro.

SPEAKER_01:

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