2026 NFL Draft Reactions

The NFL Draft is the best kind of chaos: hope, ego, overthinking, and one pick that makes you say, “What are we doing?” We’re coming off draft weekend with fresh takes, real team-building questions, and a lot of smoke for front offices that treated Round 1 like a vibe instead of a plan.

We break down why this year felt so unpredictable, from extra trade movement to the way teams valued “tiers” of talent after the top prospects. Then we get into the picks that actually made sense and the ones that screamed bad process. We talk roster construction the way fans really feel it: if you don’t have a quarterback or an offensive line, why are you spending premium draft capital on skill positions? That turns into a bigger debate about running back value, guaranteed money, and whether Arizona’s Jeremiah Love move helps right now or just creates a cap and timeline mess later.

The first round gets the full treatment, including Tennessee’s Carnell Tate decision, the Giants drafting the best player available without a regard for fit, and the Rams shocking everyone with a quarterback pick that doesn’t match a win-now roster. We also hit confusing fits like the Jets’ weapon choices, plus the teams we think drafted the best and the franchises we think flat-out fumbled their draft strategy.

If you like NFL Draft analysis, first-round reactions, team fits, and unfiltered takes on quarterbacks and roster building, tap in. Subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a five-star review, then tell us: which pick bothered you the most?

Transcript

Why The NFL Draft Hits

SPEAKER_03 0:09

Welcome back to the podcast. Today is Sunday, April the 26th, and we're back for the podcast.

SPEAKER_02 0:15

We're back! And this is on the tail end of what I would call for me as a sports fan, probably like a top five event of the year. For me, as a I think the NFL draft, obviously is what I'm talking about here, is like one of those things that's like perfectly combines two of the things I love most in sports is college football and NFL football. And then on top of that, like with all that even being the case, it also brings in the idea of watching people that you know, if you're a fan of a certain team, obviously, like I'm for Ohio State, and then watching other players that you've watched throughout college football over the last few years and then followed them via recruiting, which is a little bit harder now because so much player movement is happening, but even still, you can get attached to some players, and then seeing them be able to take that next step step into achieving their ultimate dreams and goals, even if it's not for the team that you've you uh root for in the NFL, it's a very fun thing for me, specifically. I'm not sure how to say for you, Jace, because even though you do have a college team in Michigan State, I'm not sure that you have that same type of uh I think the only guy that I feel like you've had that type of love and admiration for was probably um oh no, this is bad. I already I'm already forgiving names, Kenneth Walker. That was the one you only had him for one season. Because they the team that had him didn't want him and let him go to the Chiefs, funny enough. Which is crazy. But so like that's like the only guy that I think you've really really gotten to fall in love with and really were happy for him to kind of achieve that next goal because he gave you such a magical season off of him having a Heisman what is it, a Heisman um not winning run, but Heisman uh Heisman finalist sort of season for himself. So so you don't have that part. So but I think as Michigan State gets better and has more NFL-like players, I think you will get a little bit of that. But for me, I don't have that issue. I get to see a Buckeye's going to the NFL every single year, and this year was especially great because I got to see a good portion of them go very early on in the draft. Maybe not in time uh spots I would have liked because I think they were better or th or with a different team. But I had a lot of fun watching this year's draft. And I before we get to the draft specifically, I've how do you how do you did you enjoy the draft more than usual? More or less than usual?

SPEAKER_03 2:45

I didn't watch it.

What Made This Draft Wild

SPEAKER_02 2:46

Again, I think it's a little different for you because you didn't have a first round pick. Did not. I think it just takes all the air out of the balloon for you a little bit. But technically you did. You did have first round pick, and your first round pick was sexy Dexie. So technically it was an awesome pick. You know that he's gonna work out, and we'll kind of get to our how we feel about our team's draft here in a bit. But I just think for me, for as a as a freak who was already watching the draft anyway, whether the Steelers were making picks or not, I think for this year, even though there wasn't a bunch of quarterbacks that you're worried about getting drafted high, and honestly, if you if I the way I looked at it, there was like maybe eight, nine, ten really awesome blue chip, like all-time type players coming out, and then the rest was pretty much a crapshoot for the most part, even though there's a lot more players to be enthralled with and kind of be excited about coming out. There wasn't like a bunch of like blue chip talent coming out. But I think that because of the what's the word I'm looking for, the intrigue and the lack of clarity as to where teams were going because so many teams felt so differently about how all the talent coming into this year's draft. There was I think there was a lot more movement in general than I think in most years.

SPEAKER_03 3:58

Did the Bills trade out of their first round pick?

SPEAKER_02 4:01

Yeah, they kept trading back. Yeah. Because they had very little draft picks and they turned what draft picks they had into multiple players. Because think about it this way: the Bills, where they were sitting, they just need more players. And I think most of the players they they got were like all mostly defensive players. So and I just think that wasn't the entithesis of this season, this whole draft process in general was that if you weren't a team that had a top eight, it's like a top 10 draft pick, anywhere from the middle of the draft to the second round, there wasn't a lot of difference between the players. And I think because of that, there's a lot more movement, there was a lot more players getting drafted that you didn't think were getting drafted by those teams and all of that. And I just think it was just a lot of fun for me to watch in general and kind of like just watch. It's like it's probably like the best one session reality TV show you could possibly watch. Because not only do you see it, you kind of see it in real time, things are happening so quickly. And I do and I they also, if you didn't watch the whole first draft, it was like they lessened the amount of time of the picks. They did.

SPEAKER_03 5:08

They so went from 10 last year down to eight minutes. Yeah, I think it was like two minutes, it was like two hours and like 38 minutes. Oh, yeah. Uh they compared it to the 1985 draft, which was six hours and 58 minutes. Yep, and everybody was I okay. It don't feel like that because the draft just has a lot of commercials.

NBA Playoffs Tangent And Ref Rage

SPEAKER_02 5:26

You know what's funny? The draft itself was going up like between the teams, that was going a lot faster than the actual television product, but I think that's a good thing in general. But you're right, the commercials still were just as long as usual, and it did kind of like extend things out, but as the teams were kind of making their picks, like the picks were coming in pretty quickly, yeah. And it wasn't long. Like when I think about like the early drafts when I was like first watching it, like they had 15 minutes per pick 10-15 years ago, and then now they've gotten it down to where it's such a more palatable product in general, and it was a very fun, kind of quickly moving process, and I think I think overall it was just a lot of fun to watch from start to finish, and I think it was it just gets more and more palatable, and not to mention is that maybe it does kind of screw over the teams a little bit because they have less time to like talk about the trades and stuff like that, but there was so much talk before it then I'm just like I feel like this year is not gonna be the draft every single season. No, where there's gonna be a lot of movement and stuff like that. I think more often than not, there's not gonna be this much movement throughout the draft, and because of that, I think that that's where like the the taking away the time and having eight minutes instead of ten, I don't I think overall is just gonna make it a better TV product in general, and the teams are still gonna be able to draft the players that they want without worrying about all the things in general. So without further, without getting like getting past just the vibes of the draft, let's kind of get into the drafts themselves. And honestly, this is really what I want to talk about. I really don't want to talk about basketball because again, the playoffs are still going on right now, but the way things are going, not a lot of crazy intriguing matchups in the first round of the playoffs as of right now. The Knicks and the Hawks, I think, is probably the closest, like closest series back and forth type of thing. But like the Spurs are dominating Portland even without Wimby. You have Heck, they're about to win the third, about to be up 3-1. You have Denver getting dominated by the Timberwolves, and it sucked last night because they lost both Dante DiVincenzo and they lost Anthony Edwards, both injuries. DiVincenzo's out for the for a seat for now a year with a torn uh sorry, popped Achilles, and then you have Anthony Edwards gonna be out for weeks because of a hyper-extended knee that he got last night. The Lakers and the Rockets was supposed to be a very fun series, but Durant being hurt definitely took a lot of the air out of the air out of the thing. And Jace keeps texting me back, like fuck KD and all of that. But I'm like, sitting like, come on, man. Like KD ain't even playing. He's only played one game in this series. And I'm like, LeBron's playing great. He had the one game uh tying three at the end of I think game three. That was very fun. That was very the Rockets had like a six-point lead with like 20s with 24 seconds left. All they had to do was get the ball over calf court.

SPEAKER_03 8:08

Steal and then made a three and then got another steal kick out of LeBron.

SPEAKER_02 8:14

Yeah. And it just kept happening, and they they had the lead and they had it, and they kind of gave it up. Again, the whole issue of getting KD was to get a closer, and now you don't have him on top of not having a port guard in general. It's like a double, double axe to your whole team with how they're playing right now. So they're probably gonna get taken out by the Lakers here soon. And then what were the other games? Sorry, uh Oklahoma City is taking care of business. Um, Lou Dort did trip up uh Devin Booker, Devin Booker, and Devin Booker had an ankle injury, had to leave the game. Lou Dort again, everybody makes everybody like gets on SGA for playing like he does with the foul baiting and all that. But I think what makes what he does so crazy is the fact they let Lou Dort go out there and play like a freaking linebacker on a basketball court. I think that's what makes it even worse. I feel like if Lou Dort wasn't on that team playing like he does, SGA doing what he does wouldn't be as egregious. SGA is trying to get all the costs possible, but when Lou Dort is going out there mugging people, it makes it look that much, it's like this is like, you know, it's a um what's the word I'm looking for? Hypocritical. Hypocritical as fuck. When you're when you're you have SGA on the offensive side and then on the defense side, you have Lou Dort going crazy, tripping people, acting like a linebacker out there when that's not really how the game is played now. And SGA takes takes advantage of that. I mean again, I'm not saying Lou Dort like like Ludort does have an actual game. I'm not saying he's out there just to be like what it was 20, 30 years ago. You have dudes just out there taking fouls. He's a real player, like he is a player, but he plays it in a way that I'm like, it just makes what makes what SGA does look so much more, so much worse.

SPEAKER_03 9:58

I don't know. I don't I guess I don't think that I like how Ludort plays, because let's be honest, he's no offensive threat.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

Um he shoots threes relatively well. He's a streaky shooter, he's streaky.

SPEAKER_03 10:07

He's a three and D kind of guy. Yeah, no doubt. I like he's not going to cross you up, but he's going to catch and shoot two. Yeah, catch the shooter, pass off to the next guy. He's going to face guard you for 40 straight minutes.

SPEAKER_02 10:20

And be in your grill and not give you any space and trip you up if you potentially have an option to get past him.

SPEAKER_03 10:25

I don't know. I'm not gonna lie to you. From how Devin Booker was kind of hoed this entire series. The re the referees were just god fucking off.

SPEAKER_02 10:34

There was a point where they were where like they asked for a call and got the call against him. And I'm just sitting there like, all this stuff, I'm just sitting there, like, not only is he getting uh it was the play where he was running for the ball.

SPEAKER_03 10:46

Yeah, was it in bounds? He's not even looking, he's trying to get it in bounds, and it hits one of the OKC players. And then think about it. Group comes up, take him, and they throw a tech. I'm like, for what?

SPEAKER_02 10:58

For no good reason.

SPEAKER_03 11:00

He is in the crowd trying to get the ball.

SPEAKER_02 11:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 11:03

Just trying to get he's just trying to keep the line.

SPEAKER_02 11:05

So it's just like they play, they're they're playing on both sides of the line, right? They are they play as crazy as they do against the when they're defending you. But on the offensive side, you have SGA foul baiting and they're looking for every call possible. It just makes like, come on, dude, either do it or don't do it, but don't play both sides of the argument. And that's exactly what the Oklahoma City does. Again, it doesn't change the fact they're probably the best team left in the whole fucking thing.

SPEAKER_03 11:28

Yeah, when your fucking team is backloaded, would you have fucking uh Jared McCain coming off the fucking barely getting any minutes, but then it's just like scores 18, it's like, all right, go sit back down. Yeah, no doubt. Uh stupidest shit I've ever seen a team do is hey, let's trade our dude who can come out and drop 30.

SPEAKER_02 11:46

Which one was worse? Was it that or was it the Bulls trading away to Sunmu and him scoring 36 last night in a playoff game and not getting a first round pick for him?

SPEAKER_03 11:54

They traded him for a second round pick after he came off an injury. Before that injury, he was aver averaging 31. Comes back from injury.

SPEAKER_02 12:04

Or Kobe White or Kobe or Co was Kobe White really bad because he went off and did crazy.

SPEAKER_03 12:09

Yeah, but Kobe White was very um either he's putting up 40, or he's going three for 43. Um, you're not wrong, but I'm gonna come on.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_03 12:20

No, probably because to a winning situation puts up 30 next night, puts up 28. He is a bona fide starter that they're giving 18 minutes a game. Yeah. Going out there, he's scoring two.

SPEAKER_02 12:33

You're just a cog in this machine.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

Yeah, hey, I'm gonna you're gonna go out there, do nothing else, take three dribbles, and then shoot a three.

SPEAKER_02 12:38

It's not just that. They let him, like, they let him go out with the second and third units and like actually go out there and like distribute the ball and like do a little bit more. But again, if he doesn't do well, they don't fucking care. We have a bunch of other ones of use, and it's just we have somebody else to throw out there.

SPEAKER_03 12:52

Tell me, Jared Cain.

SPEAKER_02 12:53

Jared McCain is a no, but I'm saying they have so many dudes that just know their roles, and it kind of makes it easy it is to have a dude.

SPEAKER_03 13:01

He is an actual fucking superstar. Uh just sitting on the ball. Superstar is probably going to fucking is a superstar. Um he is a hundred percent a superstar. What bet dude comes off the bench and can put up 30 and then go sit back down? Uh he's also an efficient shooter, which is another thing he's very, very good at. Maybe it's not a superstar, but he'd be an elite number two. Um yeah. Like him and Maxi would be going crazy uh in uh Philadelphia right now. Yeah, no doubt. I just don't understand it.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

And the game away for nothing.

SPEAKER_03 13:31

Nothing!

SPEAKER_02 13:32

Yeah, but so basketball in general, not a lot of great basketball going on. It's still very, very intriguing, but it is what it is there. We kind of like 20 years. We went on a whole tangent when I was just saying basketball, it's funny. It's very interesting. It's good, like it's it's intense basketball, whether it's good or not.

SPEAKER_03 13:49

This is not fun playoff basketball. I'm having a whole lot of fun watching LeBron like it's 2018 in this bitch, and he is just because Luca and um Austin Reeves will probably be back next series.

SPEAKER_02 14:01

I think they're saying Austin Reeves might be back today.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

Yeah, and like it is what it is there, but like all LeBron had to do was win one or two games. Nah, we're gonna we gonna wipe them.

SPEAKER_02 14:13

Yeah, no doubt.

SPEAKER_03 14:13

But then the Rockets have Shangoon.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Shangoon did great last he did great last game. He had like 30 something.

SPEAKER_03 14:21

He's going to get traded. You can tell the coach don't like him. He's arguing with the teammates. I think Shangoon looks like he thinks he's better than he actually is.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

Shangoon's very good. But I'm just saying defensively he's such a liability.

SPEAKER_03 14:33

But if I have to I've watched this motherfucker five feet behind the the three-point line, shoot a three. Yeah, like what is that?

SPEAKER_02 14:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

Uh just go. That's not your shot!

SPEAKER_02 14:49

Again, they don't have a lot of shooting, so like they really don't have that many shooters.

SPEAKER_03 14:54

The three-point line?

SPEAKER_02 14:55

Okay, probably a little too far, but they do need him to shoot because they don't have anybody.

SPEAKER_03 14:59

Again, especially without Katie on the floor.

SPEAKER_02 15:04

No, you're not wrong. The Cavs Raptors series is pretty good. That's tied 2-2. Pistons Magic is a pretty close series. That's a 2-1.

SPEAKER_03 15:13

Um, Scotty Barnes and RJ Barrett went off not too long ago. Yes, yesterday.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Yeah, and won that game. Now the series is tied to two when everybody thought the Cavs are gonna win this series without much of an issue. No, the Raptors have made some hay and like got back into it. Knicks Hawks the close series, that one's going back and forth. It's 2-2 right now. Celtic Sixers, Boston's up 2-1 right now, but the Sixers did win, have a good game where they like made it look relatively good.

SPEAKER_03 15:40

Like good basketball. CJ McCollum's doing great and they're still cursing out trades.

Back To The Draft Board

SPEAKER_02 15:44

Yeah, he's not even there. Again, it's just like, yeah, no, CJ McCollum is having a nice little like resurgence. Very good resurgence, playing very good basketball against the Knicks. He's just having fun out there, and I think I like the fact they're out there just playing competitive good basketball. But with that, so without further ado, we did I didn't even want to go down this road about basketball, but it's still very fun to talk about and all that, even if the basketball isn't great yet. So let's get back into the football thing where this is what this whole pod is supposed to be about. So, NFL draft.

SPEAKER_03 16:16

Okay, you want to talk about like okay, well, I know we talked about it before podcasts. You want to go through every pick? I just want to go through the we like we could just kind of pick the teams that I'm like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_02 16:27

We could just run through, and then if somebody has something they really have to say about it, we'll just run through the first round.

SPEAKER_03 16:32

Okay, I have nothing to say about Mendoza. Can we just say that?

SPEAKER_02 16:35

No, there's nothing to say. He was a he was the number one overall pick for a while.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

He stayed that is what nothing to say about David Bailey either.

SPEAKER_02 16:41

The only thing I have to say about the deck is that I think the Jets gave up on a potential suit. I don't think David Bailey will ever be a superstar defensive end.

SPEAKER_03 16:49

No. And I but I have nothing to say about him. I think he'll work. I think he'll be a very good player. And then Massador Delane, you also.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

Mansor.

SPEAKER_03 17:02

Mansor. Yeah. Whatever. Like Arvell Reese, Mansor, and Sonny Styles went back to back to back. Those three players, I do believe, are better than David Bailey. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:14

Um But David Bailey, I think, from day one will be a very good defensive end starting out, even if he doesn't have the ceilings.

SPEAKER_03 17:21

Arvell may have a there's a hitch to hey, you guys learn how to do this. Right. I think Sonny Styles will be fine.

SPEAKER_02 17:28

Oh no, Sonny, I think he'll be a probably the best linebacker in the NFL in the next three years.

SPEAKER_03 17:32

Be perfectly fine. The only thing is rookie linebackers always kind of have trouble with coverages in their first few years in the line.

SPEAKER_02 17:37

Oh, yeah, but I think he has he has the athleticism to make up for it, whatever the year he doesn't understand a start.

SPEAKER_03 17:43

Linebackers all just it's a little struggle going to the NFL. There's a little bit of a speed difference. Yeah. Uh you said Mansor is his name?

SPEAKER_02 17:50

Mansor Delane, yes. But let me let me so we did you skipped over Jeremiah Love.

SPEAKER_03 17:55

And I have sorry, no, I was just talking about those the guys I would have picked before David Bailey. Okay, okay, yeah. Now, I I don't Jeremiah Love's very good.

SPEAKER_02 18:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:05

Very good running back. I think the fuck did y'all pick him?

SPEAKER_02 18:09

That is so this is so I have one big thing on that. Dave Bailey, just go back real quick. I think he'll be a very good thing. I think he'll be good to start, but I don't think he'll have the long-term ceiling that I think Arvell Reese potentially could have edged.

SPEAKER_03 18:20

No, I think he's a everyday starter kind of player. Yeah. But not, hey, I'm top at my position.

SPEAKER_02 18:27

Right. That is that is where I think Arvell could do that.

SPEAKER_03 18:30

12-year player. Oh, yeah. Gonna give you production, always gonna be worth have on a team. Just not um high end.

Running Back Value And Fit

SPEAKER_02 18:38

Yeah. Jeremiah, Jeremiah Love. This is where do you who do you think made the worst decision for the player or like fit in general, right? For where they're at. Do you think that the Raiders last year picking up um why am I forgetting his name now? Oh, that I suck at this, man. I've just Ash and Genty. Ash and Genty. Who do you think hoed the player more into not being able to play great from day one? Ash and Genty with the Raiders last year or Jeremiah Love this year?

SPEAKER_03 19:06

Ash and Genty with the Raiders last year. Now, here's my reasoning. Now, can you name any of the guards, tackles, or center on the Raiders?

SPEAKER_02 19:15

No.

SPEAKER_03 19:16

I know Paris Johnson Jr. is on the Cardinals. Yeah, that's a uh so we can run that ball to the left. No doubt. No doubt. So in a way that there's somewhere for him to run, Aston Jenny was in the back, feeling like I'm about to get hit. Oh, if you're talking True.

SPEAKER_02 19:32

And there's other weapons outside of outside of Jeremiah love to worry about.

SPEAKER_03 19:36

Yes. Of there's something else on the team in a way that hangs.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

McBride, a top two tight end in the NFL.

SPEAKER_03 19:42

And Brock Bowers. And Brock Bowers being triple covered. Yeah. There's three linebackers at the line. The ball has been snapped. By the time he gets the ball, there's three dudes in his face. Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:54

There was n and Gino turned out to be a negative at quarterback, so like you don't even have a worry at quarterback to worry about throwing.

SPEAKER_03 20:01

Now, I don't understand this. I think that the offensive tackles at nine that was picked would have been a better pickup. Maui Noah? Yeah, would have been a better picture.

SPEAKER_02 20:13

Sorry, no, Censor Fano.

SPEAKER_03 20:14

Yeah. Would have been a better pickup for the Cardinals.

SPEAKER_02 20:18

I think he would have, because he would have gone straight to the right side and been ready to go straight from day one. You don't have a quarterback, so you're going to be looking for a quarterback going into next season anyway.

SPEAKER_03 20:28

And that was the other thing is in the second round, they take a guard, and he's not a terrible guard, but they way overreach for him at 34. Um, Chase Batanes.

SPEAKER_02 20:39

Oh, Basantas.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

Not probably one of the not a great guard.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

But I just think he feels a need. And here's I just I just think in general, like we've been talked about before, when you pick up a running back in the draft, you want him to be one of the final pieces to your team in order for him to start off fast and be able to do well from the get-go. Because again, a running back, if everything else is set up, can start off running in the NFL very quickly by comparison to other other players going into in the NFL. But it's just now you have other weapons around you. They their office line isn't terrible by comparison to what the Raiders were doing with Genty. But it's just you don't have a quarterback, you're still waiting on that, and it's just like now you're gonna be waiting and potentially wasting the talent that you have. And again, they did end up drafting a quarterback. Um, they drafted one dude from Miami.

SPEAKER_01 21:28

Um scary Carson Beck.

SPEAKER_02 21:31

Carson Beck. They drafted him, so like maybe he can end up being the option for them long term, but again, I just don't think he has the long-term like the highest ceiling. But again, maybe he can come in and like just be a consistent force and like make that offense go, and like maybe that'll be the that'll be enough. But here's where I think it also isn't it a problem, right? Do you know which team right now has the most money poured into their just their running back room? I'll give you three guesses off the top of your head. Just which team do you think has the most money poured into their running back rooms right now? No. The New Orleans Saints.

SPEAKER_03 22:11

Wow, McCall is making a fuck ton of money.

SPEAKER_02 22:14

He's making$10 million, right? But it's not just him. They have Etienne behind him making$5 million, Keandre million, Ty Chandler, Audrey Astame, right? They have seven running backs on their roster right now. Making that's a total of$21 million. That's the most running back money poured into that spot of any team. Would you like to know where Arizona was before adding Jeremiah Love?

unknown 22:37

Because Connor.

SPEAKER_02 22:40

They have so Arizona was at 14, giving spending around$13 million on the running back room. They have James Connor making five, like 4.8. Tyler Algier making 4.3. And then they have Trey Benson, Zonovan Knight, and then Corey Kiner. Again, the first three I know of. I think Zonovan Knight actually know of him too. I think he's had a really decent NFL career. But they have running backs that have done good things in the NFL in that room already. And now they're going to add a top three pick that is now going to be making, what is it? I think$50 million guaranteed, because all first-round picks get all guaranteed money. So now they're going to jump up and potentially be make be spending double the amount of money of New Orleans. They're going to be making double the amount of money, they're going to be putting double the amount of money into the running back room as anybody else in the NFL. And not to mention that Jeremiah Love will be making more money with this contract he has right now than Josh Jacobs.

SPEAKER_03 23:38

Good Josh Jacobs asked.

SPEAKER_02 23:39

But that's the thing. Josh Jacobs at least done in the NFL and proved he could be that guy. Like I again, Jeremiah Love will be great and I do think he'll be good.

SPEAKER_03 23:46

But like tragic transfers.

SPEAKER_02 23:49

Like that's No, it does, but I'm just saying with the money that if if Jeremiah Love asks for that type of money in the second contract, unless things go perfectly, they'll be looking at him like, I don't think I want to pay you that much guaranteed money to start off. Like he'll be making a lot more money than other running backs in the NFL and guaranteed money. Sorry, that's that was my whole thing. I just think he'll be a good player, but it's just maybe a little too early to pick a player like that. And you still don't have a quarterback, so like who knows if you're gonna be wasting that type of talent you have on that team. That's all I had to say about that.

Titans Gamble On A Receiver

SPEAKER_03 24:23

Alright, next pick. Okay. I'm not saying Carnell Tate was a bad pick.

SPEAKER_01 24:28

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03 24:30

But why the fuck did you pick a receiver? You have no O-line. This was the other team. I'm like, hey, uh Spencer Fano was the best offensive tackle in this draft by a long shot. Uh the Titans need O-line so badly. Do you know what uh Cam Ward's pressure rate on his per the snaps he took? Did you know how often he was pressured? How often? 87% of the time he was pressured. So what the fuck is Carnell Tate gonna do out there? Like, they're gonna have Carnell Tate out there to just run around.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

This is what I'll say. I think, because I've been very touchy about this because everybody's been talking shit about Carnell and like talking about how he's not worth a top five pick and all that.

SPEAKER_03 25:14

I'm trying to get this conveyed right. Right. Carnell Tate was worthy of the top five pick.

SPEAKER_00 25:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 25:22

The Titans had no business picking Carnell Tate at top five. That is not what you needed. You did not need a fucking receiver. This draft had receivers who could have played for you later and like second round. Um they didn't have a second round pick.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

So you go you can look at that, but let me give you let me give you this type of thing, right? The as much as I think I kind of agree with you that Fauna was the best tap the best offensive lineman to come out, like ready, ready to go. But here's the thing. I'm not sure if he is a left tackle.

SPEAKER_03 26:03

Okay. That's fine.

SPEAKER_02 26:05

I think he's a right tackle.

SPEAKER_03 26:06

Okay, that's fine. But here's the thing. They have nothing. So even if he is a right tackle, if he's a star-started right tackle, guess what that means? You at least have something to protect Hamward. They have nothing. I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 26:26

I get that.

SPEAKER_03 26:27

Um and then so I'm gonna go through both their picks. I'm gonna go through both of them because they picked a 31 as well. Um They picked an edge. They did not pick a guard until a second until the fifth round. Like, I don't understand it. They picked the Keldrick Falk?

SPEAKER_02 26:47

Yeah, defensive man from Auburn.

SPEAKER_03 26:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

It's actually a really good big.

SPEAKER_02 26:51

Yeah, he is he has all the physical tools, didn't have as much production in college. But I think with the head coach that you have, he knows how to put it bring the other defenses. I think he'll put him in a good spot to succeed from day one. It was a very big surprise. Not a lot of teams felt like Carnel Tate was gonna go to the Titans.

SPEAKER_03 27:07

Everybody was like, he's a he's the probably the most well-rounded receiver and ready to go day one if he has everything you need. I just feel like I just don't understand the pick.

SPEAKER_02 27:16

I just felt like they made it very clear that they want to make sure that Cam Ward has the tools he needs to survive. And I think having sorry, the offensive line is definitely a problem that they're gonna have to deal with. But I also think the fact that they're gonna be able to give him a a true, because again, think about it this way: they if they didn't use this first pick on a wide receiver, they traded back into the first round to pick Falk because they needed a defensive player, because again, they needed one. And I would also say, maybe if not an offensive lineman at that sp at that four spot, I was thinking they're gonna go defense, and the fact that nobody took Sonny had taken Sonny Styles yet or had taken Arval Reese, that was a good spot for them to take him, take one of those two great defensive players out of Ohio State. But they decided, you know what, we are gonna tell Cam Ward, we are gonna get you a real weapon that you can rely on. And again, I think Carnell Tate will be able to be a quarterback's best friend from day one and be a real weapon for defenses to have to worry about. And that's why I think they picked Carnell, even if it just doesn't make sense. I know. I again I I get what you're saying, but anybody that wants to talk shit and say he's not worth a top five pick can suck my nuts.

SPEAKER_03 28:21

Absolutely, I believe he's worth the top five pick. I just don't think he fit the Titans. Um I just don't think he fit the what the Titans needed right now.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_03 28:30

But as but they needed to get a weapon anyway. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 28:36

Um I just think him and c him and Cam Ward will be a really good together. Again, again, they have to have some sort of protection. But if he can get the ball to Carnel Tate, they'll be able to make match together very early on and do very well.

Giants Choices And Caleb Downs

SPEAKER_03 28:48

Um I don't I okay, so the next one is Arvell Reese. F5, yeah. Now, so the here's my only prop with this. Okay. So they were trying so they've been trying to trade Kayvon Thibodeau to the Saints. Yeah, they've been trying to trade. Went and traded for the one dude from Vegas.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

Yeah, the uh yeah, yeah. Uh David, uh sorry, Tyree.

SPEAKER_03 29:13

Tyre Tyree Wilson. Tyree Wilson, yes. Uh so they they they or they stopped wanting to do this with the Giants. The Giants would not let him go for what he was worth. Now Kayvon Thibodeau is better than Tyree Wilson.

SPEAKER_02 29:26

Tyree Wilson hasn't done shit in the NFL.

SPEAKER_03 29:29

But they needed an edge rusher, so they went and got one. So now you guys still have two edge rushers on both the left and right side. Yeah. And a Brian Burns. You had you have three edge rushers, and you just added another edge rusher.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

That that's so let me let me say it this way. You bring up all you say all the negatives as to why this is a bad pick, and I'll give you a positive spin on it. I'll give you a positive spin as to why I think the pick could work.

SPEAKER_03 29:57

That's fine.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

You go. You go first.

SPEAKER_03 29:59

I you have a Even though I do think I do agree with some of the negatives you're gonna bring up, of course.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

But go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 30:04

The room is now overfilled. You have Brian Burns signed for the next three years. Kayvon Thibodeau is still signed for the next two years. Hopefully they trade him, but yeah. Abdul Carter is a quirky deal.

SPEAKER_02 30:15

They just used a third-round pick, a third pick overall on him last year.

SPEAKER_03 30:18

So you drafted two ends in the top no, because Kayvon Thibodeau was also a top five pick.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

He was no, he was top ten. He was like seven or something.

SPEAKER_03 30:26

So you've picked three edge rushers over the last five years. And traded for Brian Burns. And traded for Brian Burns. Yep. But you traded your D tackle away that eats up all the space in the middle. So now your edge rushers have to work even harder. I don't understand. RVL and Reese don't make sense for you when you have a secondary that's soft as baby shit. This is where I expected Sonny Styles, uh, not Sonny Styles. This is where I expected um Caleb Downs to go. This is where I expected Caleb Downs.

SPEAKER_02 30:56

I was thinking Sonny Styles or Caleb Downs at the spot. For sure.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

And they needed a they needed secondary help.

SPEAKER_02 31:04

They did sign safeties in in free agency, I think.

SPEAKER_03 31:08

They did, but none of they're not Caleb Downs. That I am, there's no doubt guaranteed he should have gone. He's been should have been the NFL two years ago. Yeah, no doubt. He is the best player.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Everybody that has talked about him, Nick Saban talked about how the fact he probably could have played in the NFL as a freshman.

SPEAKER_03 31:26

Like he is elite. I I am a hundred percent sure, which is funny because NFL.com has him rated at like 85, and I'm like, fuck out of here. Um I am 100% sure he is gonna be the best player in this draft. Um, without a shadow of a doubt. That is no shade to anybody else in this draft.

SPEAKER_02 31:42

He's been the best defensive player in College Wall for the last few years.

SPEAKER_03 31:45

Last probably three years. Yeah. I am 100% sure he's gonna be the best player. This is where I expected him to go. I am not throwing shade at Arvell Reese.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

Again, I didn't think Arvo Reese would be available at this point. I thought I thought he would get picked at two, but again, I'm very happy he doesn't have to go to a shitty Jets organization now. So I'm very happy he gets a good not go there and gets to go to the D to the Giants.

SPEAKER_03 32:05

I just think your defense is already so muddied in your front seven that adding another edge rusher linebacker doesn't make sense. Well, you can't put him at linebacker because you have two linebackers already. You and he's is his skill set and size, he is an edge rusher, but they don't even have him labeled on here as a linebacker. They have him labeled as a edge rusher, yeah, for sure. Because that's what he is. At this point, if you wanted they would have been better off picking a pure linebacker in Sonny Styles and Arvell Reese. I thought so too. Because Arvell Reese is an edge rusher. Uh in a way, he'll he'll be much more like TJ Watts where he can do both. He he's able to go out there and cover, but what he is best at is being an edge rusher. Oh, yeah. Um, and I just don't understand. Sonny Styles would have been the better pick overall in this spot.

SPEAKER_02 32:54

If they were going if you're a pure linebacker, Sonny would be better. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 32:57

Which is why which is what I think they're going to try to do with all roll reese is keep him at linebacker, which he can do. 100% he can do that. He did it at a high speech. He can do it at a high level.

SPEAKER_02 33:07

But he did, but the one thing he struggled at was with in coverage.

SPEAKER_03 33:10

But I believe what he is best at.

SPEAKER_02 33:13

Oh, where you where you can get where you can get to superstar in him is potentially making him an edge rusher at some point. But this is where I think the positive for me comes in is that I think the Giants drafted him thinking, hey, at the we can start him off being as an off-ball linebacker. That can rush the passer at certain points when he when we want him to. Oh yeah, he is. Um, but again, so I think he can do the off-ball linebacker stuff, no problem, and be able to do that just fine. I just think it's true. And then I think it gives them the versatility to be able to, hey, one if we do trade away a couple of our defensive ends and let him keep training as a defensive end and potentially put him there at some point. Because again, think about the um think about what am I forget? Why am I forget? Uh Michael Parsons, right? He came into the NFL as a linebacker and then he ended up turning into a defensive end over those first couple years in the NFL. They're like, okay, and then it just ends up him working a lot better as a defensive end than being a linebacker. I think you can probably put Arvell Reese on that same type of plan, like, hey, we're gonna go ahead, make you an off-ball linebacker, and let you do that as we're teaching you things about being an edge, because again, at Ohio State, he did not rush the passer a lot. And that's something he did that is he is gonna have to work on. But I just think he has such a high floor at linebacker that I think, even though I don't necessarily understand it just like you, what why they did it, because they have so much of a log jam at the edge position where I think Arvo Reese will potentially one day be a superstar at. But I just think his floor is so high because of what he can do at off-ball linebacker, even with him having a little bit of issue in coverage, that I just with him also being able to rush when you need him to and stop the run, that I think it they'll be able to make it work, even if I think they could have done other spots. I just I felt like they looked at him and said he's too talented to pass on. I think that's what made the decision because I just think if they wanted a true linebacker, like you said, going Sonny Styles would be a better fit, or going Caleb Downs, who is gonna be a potential Hall of Famer one day. That would be in the better again, but again, nobody wants to take the safety high because safety isn't worth that. But I'm like, come on, man. It's not at some point you have to look at the player and be like, is that gonna be a real dude in the NFL or not? And Caleb's gonna be a real dude, no questions asked. And now he's gonna be jump going to the Cowboys and making their defense better. Sucks for us because now they might we might actually have to start taking the Cowboys seriously because he Caleb's gonna walk into that room and command that they be better. That's what he does wherever he has been. But yeah, off of off the um, that's all I got on Armell Reese's food.

SPEAKER_03 35:47

He'll be great, but it's just a little bit of an iffy spot as of right now. I have nothing to say about Mansor Delane. It was a great pick by the Chiefs.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

I'm just mad they traded up. They could have waited.

SPEAKER_03 35:58

Probably.

SPEAKER_02 35:58

Uh maybe you're worried about maybe the Saints taking him, but I just think they could have sat where they're at at nine and potentially still got him.

SPEAKER_03 36:06

Yes, but I'm more upset that the Browns traded with them at all. But again, I have nothing to say about it.

SPEAKER_02 36:13

But again, if the Browns, Carnell was gone, so they didn't have that in their pocket anymore. And if they didn't want to take, because again, you can't take another defensive end at this point because you already have so much, so much on your defense, so much talent on your defense right now. Like if you're gonna take it off its lineman anyway, and you can trade down, you can still have the guy that you want. You get your pick of whatever tackle that you want at nine, get and get some extra picks for it. I actually am not mad at the Browns. They actually made a good decision.

SPEAKER_03 36:38

But I have nothing to say about Manchester Delaney, nothing to say really about their pick.

SPEAKER_02 36:42

My only problem is that you gave up you gave up, um, why am I forgetting his name to the Brams? Gave him up, you traded him away and then drafted a guy in the same position by trading up to get him. It's just like kind of like uh you didn't get I don't think you got better off in g off getting rid of your best corner and then drafting a new one. You don't know what corner I'm talking about, do you? You just gave me that look of not knowing who I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_03 37:09

Um, Denzel words that plays for the Browns.

SPEAKER_02 37:14

No, I'm talking about I'm talking about the Chiefs, man.

SPEAKER_03 37:16

Oh, yeah, but he was and he ended up being bad. Which one? He didn't play well towards the end of the year.

SPEAKER_02 37:24

I I don't think he even played badly.

SPEAKER_03 37:27

And then got younger.

SPEAKER_02 37:29

Yeah, but I also but they're just better. But there's no there's no guarantee you're better.

SPEAKER_03 37:34

Yeah, but it's a guarantee you're cheaper.

SPEAKER_02 37:36

I'm just not sure if Command Sword Delane is worth a top top like top six pick. That's that's where I'm like a little iffy on it.

SPEAKER_03 37:43

Okay. But it's not again, it's not a bad pick.

SPEAKER_02 37:46

I'm just mad they traded up the best corner in the draft. I'm just mad they traded up for him. I just think they could have waited on her.

SPEAKER_03 37:51

No, for sure. We're not talking about them trading up, we're talking about the pick. I got you. Uh I have nothing to say about Sonny Styles either.

SPEAKER_02 37:57

He'll be great with the he'll be great, Washington. He'll be one of the best linebackers in the NFL in the next three years.

SPEAKER_03 38:01

I'm very certain on that. Um now, eight was Jordan Tyson from Arizona State, which whether he can be become the superstar, they don't think Chris Olave is right now.

SPEAKER_02 38:12

Maybe he can be the future number one, fine. Or if it doesn't work out, he ends up being the number two, I think that'll be great too. I think that they have their quarterback, and I think that giving him weapons to throw to outside of Chris Olave because because they traded away Rasheed Shaheed last season, I think is a very good pickup for them. Maybe they're waiting on one of the defensive players that they couldn't get because they're all taken ahead of him. So like getting Jordan Tyson to help out that that offense will be a very good pick long term. So I'm even though everybody was like he should have been the guy to take over Carnell Tate, and I'm like, injury-wise, I don't believe so. And then also, like with some everybody talks about he's very explosive, but I'm just like, I think Carnell Tate's a lot better against press man coverage than him, and that's where I think I think Carnal Tate's gonna be so much more consistent to start than Jordan Tyson. But I think Jordan Tyson, sky's the limit for him. I think he does have all the physical tools. Browns, Spencer Fano.

SPEAKER_03 39:10

I like this good pick. Good pick. I have nothing to say about it. He's the best office attack in this draft. You need offensive line talent. This is a good pick.

SPEAKER_02 39:18

They drafted multiple offensive linemen in this draft, they needed it.

SPEAKER_03 39:20

They drafted well.

SPEAKER_02 39:22

And I think overall, I think the Browns drafted well this year, and I'm like, I actually can't really be too mad at anybody they drafted. I really can't. Outside of the quarterback they drafted.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

And then, okay, so Francis Maui Noah to the Giants. And this is fine, right?

SPEAKER_02 39:37

You needed an offensive tackle, but guys, they could have taken Caleb.

SPEAKER_03 39:42

Caleb Downs is still here.

SPEAKER_02 39:44

Yeah, no doubt.

SPEAKER_03 39:45

What the fuck are we doing? Yeah. What the fuck are we doing?

SPEAKER_02 39:48

I thought it was I thought it was hand. Stupid eagles.

SPEAKER_03 39:51

Motherfuckers. Oh my god. Real quick, I was like, man, I was like, man, the Giants will do well in this rap. I have a friend that's an Eagles fan. He's like, and I told you, last time they had two first-round picks, they botched it. One of those picks was fucking Kadarius Tony. They botched it. They fucking botched this again.

SPEAKER_02 40:10

Not only did they let Caleb Downs not go to their team, but they then they let him go to the Cowboys.

SPEAKER_03 40:16

Cowboys, I'm going to laugh my ass off when Jackson Dart has to face him twice a fucking year and is about to get picked off twice a fucking year. Because he is going to make you regret this. I don't get it. Um, we were to talk again. They needed O-line. That's why your dude had so many concussions because he kept having one of the pocket. Yeah. I get it. O-line's great. Caleb Downs is a literal generational player. Yeah. Um, the next player was Caleb Downs for the Cowboys.

SPEAKER_02 40:43

This is a great fucking Cowboys traded up from 12 to 11 to get him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:46

So bad. I don't hate it. Trading up 12 to 11. Don't really understand. They didn't need a safety.

SPEAKER_02 40:52

I think they were worried about some other I think they were worried about another team trying to trade up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 40:55

Cool. I understand. But I feel like you could have waited just at least a couple more. Um who? I feel like the Cowboys could have waited one more pick. I doubt somebody was really going to try to go up there.

SPEAKER_02 41:06

Again, it's Caleb Down, so I'm not gonna I wouldn't be surprised that there was another team potentially trading up.

SPEAKER_03 41:10

Buccaneers. That's the only team I can really see that, like, hey, they may have really tried to go up there to get him.

SPEAKER_02 41:15

Um But Maui, no, I think we'll be a I'm not sure if he'll be a tackle. I think he might be a better guard to start off with.

SPEAKER_03 41:23

He's small, ain't he? No, he's not. No, he's a big he's a big boy. What was wrong with him?

SPEAKER_02 41:28

He's just not. I just don't think I think he's a mountain of a man. He's 6'5, 3'30. But I just don't think he has the legs. He has like to be able to be athletic enough to be able to deal with the monsters on the end that you have to deal with. So I think he'll be a better guard. And I think they actually came out and said that they plan on him being the guard to start off with. So I'm just sitting there at 10. If you either gonna get a potential guard for you and not be able to play tackle right away, or Caleb Downs, Caleb Downs would have been a better pick. Even though I understand picking the offensive lineman to protect your quarterback if you're gonna let him actually potentially have a chance to be the guy, but it's just Caleb Downs is will be a superstar in the NFL. And besides, again, I get it, he's a safety. Nobody wants to believe safeties are worth it, but it's just he's he's Caleb is that good. He just is.

SPEAKER_03 42:11

Next pick uh was by the Dolphins, Caden Proctor. I have nothing to say against that.

SPEAKER_02 42:16

There was a point, he's 6'6, 350.

SPEAKER_03 42:19

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 42:20

They apparently there were times where at Alabama he was sitting at 400 pounds.

SPEAKER_05 42:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

And the first thing that Nick Saban said when he got drafted was that he is not a self-starter, he is not a guy that is gonna be able to do what he has to do from like just by his own internal um um what is motivation, right? Doesn't have an internal motor. And that's a problem when you're gonna be dealing with a guy that's a big boy, and it's not like you can't just go eat again, as a big guy myself, you can't just go eat whatever you fucking want and be everything beef is just fine, right? Your diet falls off, your body's gonna fall off, right? And I just think for a guy like him, for the Dolphins to take him at this spot, I get it, he's a he has a crazy athletic freak at the off tackle position, but it's just like he was so inconsistent in college, and if he couldn't do it at Alabama and like be consistent and do what he has to do there, how do you think that's gonna like you're gonna give him a bunch of money and it change going into the NFL? That's the part where I'm like, I'm just not sure what the whole plan is, but especially with the top 12 pick. I'm just like, it's so inconsistent, there's a chance it could really go wrong. I'm just not I just don't understand why they would make the pick, but it's just I get it. There's such it's crazy to have the monsters of looking like that if it all works out, but it's just such a good chance that it doesn't. That I'm just like, eh, I'm just I'm I'm just not sure what the Dolphins are doing at that spot. But you know, it is what it is. If it works out, it'll be great. But if not, it'll be a total disaster.

Shock Picks And Bad Fits

SPEAKER_03 43:47

Um next pick at 13 was Ty Simpson for the Rams.

SPEAKER_02 43:50

This might have been the biggest surprise for me in the whole fucking draft.

SPEAKER_03 43:54

Did you uh did you see Henry McVay's press conference?

SPEAKER_02 43:58

He did not look happy.

SPEAKER_03 44:00

No, because he's trying to discuss a deer a deal with Stafford. Shouldn't he need Stafford to stay along?

SPEAKER_02 44:03

Oh, yeah, they're still trying to sign him to a deal to keep him for another season.

SPEAKER_03 44:06

So you know what we should do? We should draft a quarterback top 15. Uh guys, you have the rating MVP.

SPEAKER_02 44:13

You were the best team to not win the Super Bowl. You were the best team. Not literally the NFC championship game was the fucking Super Bowl with how it kind of worked out. And you have the 13th overall pick to go add whatever you fucking want to that team. Because think about it, the the Seattle got worse because they let players walk away.

SPEAKER_03 44:33

And you're and you're just this was the team props on trade up for Caleb House.

SPEAKER_02 44:37

Potentially.

SPEAKER_03 44:38

This was probably the team.

SPEAKER_02 44:39

Well, you could have added another defensive end, you could have added an offensive lineman, you could have done whatever you wanted. But it and here's the problem, I think, with Ty Simpson, right? Because maybe he'll be a superstar one day. I'm not, I'm not, honestly, I don't think so. And I don't think he's worth a first round pick because I just don't think he has any physical tools worth him being a first. Again, I think I think of him and I think of freaking um for Pittsburgh when they drafted uh Kenny Pickett. It's just a guy that I'm like, Ty Simpson makes probably more NFL throws in college than Kenny Pickett did. But I'm just like when it comes to physical tools, there are none. He's small, doesn't have a great arm, none of it, right? If everything goes perfectly for the Rams next season, Ty Simpson won't have a fucking hand to do with any of it. And if anything goes great, he won't play it fucking down for the next one, two, three years.

SPEAKER_03 45:22

They're gonna give him a Jordan Love treatment.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

And and I'm just I just don't think you could have used a player to help your team out next season.

SPEAKER_05 45:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

And they made this move, and I'm just sitting there like, I just didn't, you know, and again, like you said, the Sean McVay press conference, he didn't look fucking happy. And there were some people trying to say that he was putting on an act to make sure he is great at putting on a front.

SPEAKER_03 45:43

Oh, he is. He looked like this he looked like he wasn't in the room when they put the card in. And he came back in, like, what the fuck? What did y'all do?

SPEAKER_02 45:50

Or maybe it was one of those, like, hey, we know you won a Super Bowl, but this is our this is a move for our future after Matt Stafford.

SPEAKER_03 45:56

And I kind of understand it. Y'all should have just waited one more year. But you have a fan chance to go in a fucking Super Bowl, man. Like, I I don't get it. Personally, it just does make sense. Ty Simpson, maybe, maybe a couple years of sitting behind Matthew Stafford can really help him improve, but like he he's not a mobile quarterback in a way that like Matthew Stafford. I've watched that man get up out the pocket and be a little shifty.

SPEAKER_02 46:17

Uh not at not at this age. Shifty. Not at this age.

SPEAKER_03 46:20

Get about the pocket. At this age, I've seen him like, hey, I'm not gonna take this sack. I'm gonna get five three or four yards.

SPEAKER_02 46:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 46:25

Uh Ty Simpson can't do that.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

I think he can't. He actually can run a little bit, but it's just no he can't.

SPEAKER_03 46:30

This motherfucker's a liability all run in. Stop playing. I don't think so. No, I think Ty Setz is a terrible quarterback. I just don't think he has the physical tools to make worse.

SPEAKER_02 46:44

Again, 13th pick overall. He's not going to help your team at all for the next couple years. I just didn't understand the pick whatsoever.

SPEAKER_03 46:49

Yeah. So the next pick was the Ravens and the Guard.

SPEAKER_02 46:52

Iwane, the guard, awesome. I think it's good. Great pick. He'll be able to start from day one.

SPEAKER_03 46:56

He's going to share up your run game a little bit better. I have nothing bad to say about him. Yeah, no doubt. He'll be great from day one. Good pick. Now, Tampa Bay, I also like this pick. I think this was a great pick, especially with Levante David retiring. This is a great pick. Was Ruben Bain Jr. Yeah. I think he is.

SPEAKER_02 47:12

Short arms and all. I still think he'll be able to do it with his motor and be able to be a very good. Maybe not. Again, people are trying to make him like a top five pick. I didn't think so.

SPEAKER_03 47:20

He will be a high production, like he won't give you a lot. He'll never be a superstar, but I think he'll have a very good 12-year career. I agree, and I think he's gonna be consistent. And I to a defense that needed it.

SPEAKER_02 47:31

I think it's a good pick. Yeah, no doubt.

SPEAKER_03 47:33

Now, I don't really understand this one by the Jets. They got the tight end. Kenyon Sadiq. Kenyon Sadiq from Oregon.

SPEAKER_02 47:38

They drafted um um um they drafted uh Jason um they Mason Oh no, they it was a they drafted a tight end last year in the second round.

SPEAKER_03 47:49

They did.

SPEAKER_02 47:50

And Mason Taylor, the deep the Jason Taylor's son, drafted him in the second round last year, and he ended up being very he actually played pretty well last year for them. And then you draft Kenyon Sneak this year at that spot when you don't have a quarterback, and it just doesn't make any sense as to why you draft him at this spot. Doesn't make any sense. Now you're gonna be running two tight end sets and all that when you don't even have a fucking quarterback you can rely on. Like, I guess Geno Smith's back with them, so like maybe he'll be their quarterback. But I'm just sitting here like, I just don't know why drafting him at this spot makes any fucking sense. And then you add on top of that, they drafted him here, and then at the end of the first round, they drafted back in at pick 30 and drafted Omar Cooper Jr., who's a fucking slot receiver.

unknown 48:36

Yes, they did.

SPEAKER_02 48:37

Omar Cooper Jr. can do maybe do a little bit of outside, but he's actually where he's gonna be best as a slot receiver. And what is fucking Kenyon Sadiq gonna be? He's not gonna be blocking nobody at the like block blocking offensive tackles in the NFL at his size, he's 6'3. So I'm like, I don't get why the combination. If you're gonna take Sadiq, fine, but why would why wouldn't you take an real outside receiver? And then if you take Sadiq, like I just it doesn't make any sense so as to why they drafted him.

SPEAKER_03 49:05

I'm not gonna lie to you. I am looking at the Jets draft. I think they had the worst one.

SPEAKER_02 49:16

I I I don't I'm not sure if I'm able to go. I want to go that way. Oh, they did draft him? I didn't even notice they drafted him. No, it'll be Gino.

SPEAKER_01 49:29

It'll be the G it'll be Gino. Alright. The worst draft? Oh, that might be a little too far for even for me.

SPEAKER_02 49:37

New York Chats. They really need to take Cade Klubnick?

SPEAKER_03 49:40

Yeah, fourth round.

SPEAKER_02 49:41

Crazy. I didn't even notice that.

SPEAKER_03 49:44

Uh next pick was the tackle out of Clemson, Blake Miller for the Lions.

SPEAKER_02 49:48

Um great offensive tackle. I think he'll be able to put him in right away because I think he played a lot of snaps in Clemson. So he'll be able to be good right away.

SPEAKER_03 49:58

Which I think he's a good right tackle, especially because I think the run game's gonna be a little more um premiere because of how good Jameer Gibbs is gonna be this year. Yeah, uh, but it's a good pick. Um the Vikings, also I th I think is a decent pick. I don't think it's the best player.

SPEAKER_02 50:14

Caleb Banks.

SPEAKER_03 50:15

Uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 50:16

I don't know why he again, I he he is at his size, he is a potential 6'63 27. He's easy. Long arms.

SPEAKER_03 50:24

Sit up, sit there and probably just eat in the middle. Yeah, he'll be a monster. He really will. There will most likely be nowhere to run the ball up the middle towards them.

SPEAKER_02 50:32

Um but he broke a bone in his foot but the day before the draft. Like during during sorry, before the combine, right? And if you have big guys with foot issues or they're breaking bones in their feet, that's gonna keep being an issue.

SPEAKER_04 50:44

Yeah.

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And that's the part where I'm like, and he's already dealt with injuries before then, and it's all been foot issues, and I'm just like, that's the part where I'm like, you're taking a risk there. But if it works out, it'll be awesome. But when I see K-Mac still sliding at this point and not having gotten picked yet, and you take a guy that's gonna be a much bigger risk by comparison. I'm just like, I wit, I hope it works for you. But I just feel like feel like you could have gotten a more consistent and more guaranteed great player at defensive tackle than they got. But again, I get it, it's a lottery ticket, and they took it. Hopefully, it works out for them.

SPEAKER_03 51:15

Alright, next pick, which I also don't hate, was by the Panthers. Monroe Feeling. Monroe Feeling. Freeling from Georgia. Out of Georgia. 6'7, 315. He is 6'7 and 3'8. That man is big boy. But he is thin for his size.

SPEAKER_02 51:33

He carries their weight with the weight very well. Yes, in a way that's very athletic. I think they'll be able to put him at right tackle right away without much of an issue, and then maybe he'll be a left tackle at some point.

SPEAKER_03 51:43

I think he'll be a high quality starter.

SPEAKER_02 51:45

Oh, yeah. And he didn't really play a lot at Georgia, so they need to saw the development.

SPEAKER_03 51:49

He'll still have some developing to do. But the thing is that he uh when he was trying to become a full-time starter, he had to fill out his frame a lot. Yeah. They're saying he was like really light and he was fill having to fill out a lot.

SPEAKER_02 52:00

Right.

SPEAKER_03 52:01

So I but I I think he may get bullied by bigger edge rushers.

SPEAKER_02 52:06

But I think as he gets better and better, but he's he has the frame, he'll be able to put on the weight, but it's just he is long. So, like, but again, as long as it works out, I think he'll be a very good player for the Panthers.

SPEAKER_03 52:16

I totally agree. The next one, which might be it was Mikhail Lemon. Do you want to tell the story now? Yeah, so the Steelers were on the phone with Mikhail Lemon, trying saying, Hey, we're gonna draft you. Uh and the Eagles at pick 21. At pick 21. And the Eagles could not get into contact with Mikhail Lemon because he was on the phone with the Steelers.

SPEAKER_02 52:36

Because the Eagles had traded up from pick, what were they at? Pick 23 or something like that. And they traded up with the Cowboys to get into that 20-20th spot to take him. And first off, as a Steelers fan, I'll just say this right now. I was very happy that happened. Thank God. I did not like Mikhail Lemon to begin with. I was never a Mikhail Lemon guy, and I'm so I'm so happy we dodged that bullet. Because I just don't think he'll be able to be a great again. Maybe as a slot receiver, he'll be able to make some hay, but I'm just not sure he has the physical tools to do what he wants to do in the NFL. But for the Eagles, I think this move pretty much guarantees that AJ Brown is done. He is done in the NFL. I mean, sorry, he's done with the Eagles. They're going to trade him. The all the rumors about him getting traded to the Patriots in June are going to happen. I think it's especially with their second round pick being a tight end. Two pass catchers with their first two overall picks in this draft, I think pretty much guarantees it AJ Brown will not be an Eagle this upcoming season. But here's my thing. If Mikhail Lemon's going to be a slot receiver, what do you think he'll be the best at doing from the slot? Because he's not a burner. He's not going to burn the safety or linebacker. He's going to be on him. Or the slot corner. He is going to be a middle of the field merchant picking the good spots in the defense and being ready to get the ball from Jalen Hurts, right? But what has been Jalen Hurts' biggest weakness as a quarterback? Not wanting to use the middle of the goddamn field. So you're going to turn, you're going to draft this wide receiver that's going to be a middle of the field merchant, and then hopefully use him with a quarterback that doesn't like to play in the middle, like to throw in the middle of the field. It doesn't make any sense to me. And maybe their whole long-term plan is to not have Jalen Hurts as their quarterback at some point. Maybe that'll be the case. But I'm just sitting there like, with what he does well, I just not sure that him and Jalen Hurts are going to be a very good fit because I just Jalen Hurts just doesn't like to use middle of the field while he's just not comfortable enough as a passer that way to be able to make those type of throws that Mikhaileman will need to be a good starter in the NFL because he is not an outside receiver whatsoever. So I just think that again, I get it, they're getting a pass catcher to make up for AJ Brown on top of him and the tight end that they drafted, but I'm just like, I'm just not sure Mikhailemon's gonna be a great fit. But again, I'm just glad he's not gonna be on the Steelers team, so I don't have to deal with him and have to root for him to play well when I'm not very confident in him in the first place.

SPEAKER_03 55:07

Yeah. Um, all right.

SPEAKER_02 55:09

The next pick was um Max Yanachor to this Pittsburgh Steelers from Arizona State.

SPEAKER_03 55:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

Let me say this: not played a lot of football.

SPEAKER_03 55:20

Nope. He's a late comer to football.

SPEAKER_02 55:22

He started, he is from Nigeria, and he came to the United States playing foot um basketball and soccer, and then he didn't start playing football until he was in community college. Makes his hay there to community college, ends up going to Arizona State, and now he's coming out as an absolute monster of a human. He's 6'5, 321, very athletic. I think we'll be able, if as long as he can make sure his technique is good.

SPEAKER_03 55:49

That's that's what the biggest thing uh was that I was looking at. His technique is not amazing. Now he did have good production this senior bowl up against um Tech CM's defensive ends. He did really good against both of them. Yep. Now it the biggest thing was is that he is a little slow off the line. Um faster edge rushers do get him a lot. His technique was not the greatest, but he had a good 40, a good 10-yard split, a good vertical jump, a good broad jump, very athlete. 25 reps, he's very, very athletic.

SPEAKER_02 56:22

Um and they can throw him in at right tackle, and then Spencer Fano, I mean, sorry, not Spencer, no, no, Fotano. Um, the tackle we drafted last year, we can put him at left tackle, and I just think the whole this all of this just means Broderick Jones is done in Pittsburgh.

unknown 56:37

Oh yeah, he's gone.

SPEAKER_02 56:38

And apparently he had his like a neck injury or like a spine injury that he's he's dealing with too. Yes, and he has when he has played, he hasn't been good. So I just think this pretty much signals that the experience of Broderick Jones is not good.

SPEAKER_03 56:51

I don't think it's a ball pick. I just I don't know. I guess it's an unrefined talent's always scary to me. But again, don't he from what I was seeing of just his no overall stats, every year he's improved. Like starkly, he is getting better. And that was one of his things on draft night is hey, like he keeps getting better. No doubt.

SPEAKER_02 57:09

I'm excited for it.

SPEAKER_03 57:10

Next, they have Aki Mesador was an edge drafted to the Chargers. I like this pick.

SPEAKER_02 57:18

Played well, Miami. He's 25 years old, so he's not young whatsoever. But again, it doesn't fucking matter. As long as you can play well, what matters how many contracts you have.

SPEAKER_03 57:26

If you say he's 25, he's the only dude with these draft pictures, the full fucking beard. Uh literally a grown-ass man. Yeah, no doubt. Uh that's crazy, but he is a game ready player.

SPEAKER_02 57:40

He'll be able to play very good from day one. I think that's what they need right now is a game ready guy.

SPEAKER_03 57:44

No doubt. Um next is Malachi Lawrence out of UCF.

SPEAKER_02 57:49

It's a fucking reach. They should not, he should not have been picked at this spot. He's not a first-round pick at all. Literally, no service or people that did the draft ever looked at him as a first like a first-round draft pick. But the Cowboys did it. But again, it's their second pick in the first round. Fine, maybe you can reach a little bit because you did get a real bargain in getting Caleb Downs dropping to you where they got him. So I'm like, okay, fine. Maybe if they think Malachi Lawrence can be the very good pass rusher. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 58:16

And I think he does have like the prototypical size, the speed. 6'4, 250. He has a decent like bag of moves, and there's a highlight tape I'm watching. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 58:25

I just not proven. At UCF, it's just not a proven talent. You're gonna have to hope that it works out. Yeah, but again, I get it. You got a good deal before, you're reaching a little bit now. It is what it is. They have two first-round picks. Do what you want with them. But you know, hopefully it's a little bit of a reach.

SPEAKER_03 58:41

Next pick was uh the Browns took a wide receiver, KC Conception.

SPEAKER_02 58:45

KC Concepcion from Tex AM. I felt like that's how I was gonna play. He's 5'11, 196, not a big receiver at all. He's lightning in a bottle, though. So if he gets he's gonna be able to burn down the field.

SPEAKER_03 58:58

Great at beating press and man coverage.

SPEAKER_02 59:00

Um he does have a little bit of, he did it, has had drop issues in the past, so if he can fix that, again, the only problem is with having drop issues, having drop issues and then going to the AFC North one's gonna get cold, and the catching is not gonna be as easy, is a little bit of an issue, especially when you have guys like David Boston still sitting there, but it doesn't matter because David Boston drops them again, they pick him too. So they get the best of both worlds, but at this spot, I think it was a little bit of a reach. But I think having him on that roster with being a real, I think he'll be able to burn a lot of defensive, uh sorry, a lot of corners. I think it's gonna be a good pick, but again, has to be consistent with the catching. But as long as that's the case, I think he'll be a pretty good receiver in the NFL.

SPEAKER_03 59:37

Yeah, no, I I don't think it's a horrible pick, and I do think it'll be decent for whichever quarterback they have starting, because they drafted another quarterback. Um which, real quick, I don't hate him as a funniest thing, I don't hate that dude as a quarterback. What is his name? Talen Green.

SPEAKER_02 59:56

Again, he's a physical Marvel with all the combine stuff that he did, super fast, has a huge arm.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:03

He is screaming, I can be Lamar, but I can't aim as well as Lamar. He has in a way that okay, hold on, time out, time out.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:12

Are you really about to cape up for this dude right now? No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:16

But a seventh round pick is crazy, okay?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:18

It wasn't seventh, it was a wasn't a fifth.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:21

No, he was a sixth round pick.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:24

Sixth round pick, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:25

You're telling me Carson bets bitch ass?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:28

He has a better quarterback than Taylor Green. Yes. Okay, yes. I can say that for sure.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:32

Yes. But you're talking a few years ago, Anthony Richardson does this shit and it's impressive. Oh, yeah, they take his top three. That's what scared everybody. No doubt. Anthony Richardson's a top ten pick. Yeah. And everybody's like, yeah, we can't. We're not doing that shit again. He started 70-something games. He was a starting quarterback.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:52

He just wasn't good. Can't have the broad side of a barn.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:55

Great. Right, but think about the intangibles.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:00

My only problem with that is that now you've added a fifth quarterback to that goddamn room.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:04

Yeah, I don't understand that. This is where you fucking I don't get it, dude. Oh, what am I talking about?

SPEAKER_02 1:01:10

Maybe the You already have four quarterbacks. You're you have Watson, you have Shador, you have the why am I forgetting the guy's name? The lefty.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:19

Gabriel.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:20

Yes, uh, Dylan Gabriel, and now you've added a fifth quarterback to that room. So what does this mean? You're that means I think Dylan Gabriel's on his way out. The only problem is that you use a third-round pick on him. You actually use really good draft capital, so now you're just gonna drop him in year two for the sixth-round pick, but I just don't get it why you'd pick up Talen Green to now you have five quarterbacks. You're not gonna go into a season with five quarterbacks on your roster. And maybe Deshaun, maybe they're finally gonna eat the contract of Deshaun Watson and just let him go and not do anything for him. But I just don't think they're such a cheap organization, they're not gonna do it because they still guarantee he's still guaranteed so much money. But I just adding a fifth quarterback to that roster is insane to me. Especially with him being a such a project. I don't know. It was such a again, I think the Browns did very good drafting overall this year. I think they filled a lot of their needs, but it's just they just do things sometimes that's like doesn't make any sense to me.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:15

They took another wide receiver in the second round, and they got their big body Denzel Boston.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:20

Jake, our guardian Jake, he was super excited about it. They did it, they took two wide receivers back to back, and it fits both needs. It really did. Um, they did it, had a very good draft.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:30

With the next pick, what is SAF?

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Safety.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:33

That's a safety.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:34

Yeah. Dylan Thinneman from Oregon. Yeah, I don't know. White boy, but he's very fast. He has a lot of his physical tools are great.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:41

Uh I actually think he was one of the better guys. He has he had a good vertical, but good broad, good bench, good fucking 40. Uh, I think he's a gonna be a good safety. And he's pretty quick.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:51

He's he's gonna be a middle of the field safety, just kind of getting trying to get the ball. Yeah, and ball hawk tight.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:55

I don't hate that. I think the Bears do kind of need some secondary help, and I believe it was a good pick. It's a good fit for sure. Uh the next pick, very good value, too. The Texans, I like this pick as well, but I don't believe this was the player two pick. Um they picked Caleb Kaylin?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:17

Kaelin Rut Rutledge. Calen Rutledge.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:20

Guard. Uh I think that's a decent pick. I just believe that the offensive tackle that was taken at 28 by the Caleb.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:29

Oh, by the by Patriots.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:30

Caleb Lomu would have made more sense for them. Uh I think I do believe Caleb uh Lomu Lomu. Lomu.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:38

I think Caleb Lomu is a tad bit more of a project, and he's gonna play right tackle. I think they already have a right tackle they think they like. I think they actually need a really a left tackle that they don't have. But again, their offensive line is such an issue for the Texans, and I think adding a guard that I think will be able to start from day one will be a huge deal for them. He's a big boy, and I think he'll also add a lot in the run game because he'll be able to mow people down. I don't think he's really that all that great at protecting the passer in the pass game.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:04

He's very athletic. Uh I think in the run game, he'll be he'll mow people down, which okay. Getting CJ running game will be great as well, of its relieving pressure off of him. Yeah, getting CJ by getting in a run game. So, uh but again, I just think a tackle would have been a little better. Yeah, but again, I don't I also don't think there was a left tackle here for the US. Yeah, no doubt. But I do believe they did end up drafting a tackle anyway later on. They did not, they took another guard.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:32

Again, they needed interior protection too, because that's heck, they were getting pressure from everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:36

Yeah, I I uh taking two guards in this draft was good anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:40

All the great tackles that were gonna be plug and play were not here, so getting a guard that you can think you can have confidence in will be a huge deal. And he'll help the run game, help CJ out with a run. Again, the idea that they got him a right uh an offensive lineman to help him out to a huge deal. Huge deal to do that. And then their second round pick was awesome. We'll talk about that in a minute. But I just think good pick by them getting that guard.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:04

Uh next, uh Miami.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:07

Miami getting Chris Johnson from corner from San Diego State. It's a reach. Nobody thought it was gonna be a first-round pick. If it works out, I think he can be very good, but it's just it'll be a little bit of like a hoping that everything will translate and be very good in the NFL. But he has a size, he has a speed, he has very good coverage skills, but he was at San Diego State in college. So that jump talent-wise, he's gonna have to be dealing with on an everyday basis, isn't impossible to get over, but it is something you're gonna have to hope works out. But again, it's Miami, they need a lot of people. I feel like they probably could have used a probably a little bit more of like a plug and play because of how bad they are, but again, they're gonna be bad no matter what next year. So getting a project is not gonna be the worst thing for them.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:47

Yeah, I agree. Um, and then we kind of already talked about a little bit. The next pick was Caleb Lomu. Right tackle. Uh a right tackle. I don't hate it. I think it's a good pick. It's a big old white boy.

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Six six, three thirteen.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:59

Which is what you needed out. After taking a smaller white boy the year before, who got his shit stuffed in.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:04

Here's the thing. If he works out and he shows the Athletics doesn't play left tackle, I think he might be. I think they could probably make the move.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:11

Yep.

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To swap them, no doubt.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:13

Maybe for the best. I like this pick. Yeah. You definitely did somebody protect him because it showed.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:19

No doubt.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:20

So I like this pick. Next was Peter Woods, a defensive tackle by Kansas City out of Clemson. I think that's very smart, especially with guys like Chris Jones, who is getting older. He's 33. So this is a great pickup to have right now. You have Chris Jones from the two or three years. So as Chris Jones can help this kind of this guy kind of develop as Chris Jones is on his way out. I like the picks you they made in this draft.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:43

My only problem is my only problem with Peter Woods. Clemson has not has been a little bit of a downslope the last couple years. And they haven't really put a lot of great players in the NFL over like the last two or three years now, ever since the Trevor Lawrence draft. So a lot of the players that have been coming out of Clemson over the last couple years have not been instant contributors for the teams they're drafted to. And Peter Woods, going into last season, everybody was looking at him as being a top five pick overall because of how much talent that he has. And it just he did nothing good at Clemson. Like, can't say nothing good, but he did not be, he was not as like he was not as great of a player as everybody thought he was going to be on the football field. So that is a little bit of an issue. But I think talent-wise, Kansas City knows what they're doing. As long as they can get him to do what they need him to do in the real that defense, I think it'll be a good pickup. Um, next pick, Giants already, I mean sorry, Jets already mentioned this earlier, Omar Cooper Jr. The Jets traded back up into the first round to get him. Again, he's a good player. He played very well Indiana. I think he's more of a slot. And when you already take it, when you already took Kenyon Sadiq earlier on in the draft, it just seems like two of the same players trying to potentially play in the same position. So that part makes me a little bit iffy on it, but again, you needed more weapons overall. And I so I don't, I'm not mad at that fact, but it's just the fit is where I'm kind of getting iffy with the two guys you picked. But Omar Cooper Jr. is a good player. He is for sure. Um pick 31, Tennessee, Keldrick Falk.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:10

I really like this pick. Uh big old 6'5, he's 6'5, 276, uh edge rusher. I really think he's good. I think it's may take him a little bit to get to the level of what I believe he could be. So I don't I wouldn't say hey, he's going to be up for defensive player, defensive rookie of the year in his first year, but I'd say in like one to two years you will have a legitimate edge rusher. Uh I think he is. Not I wouldn't I don't want to call him a project. I think he's a a good end of the first round pick because this is a guy that is he's absolutely gone in the second round.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:48

Oh, yeah, no doubt. No doubt.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:50

So I I don't like this. I don't hate this.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:52

And Robert Sala as their head coach. I think he'll be a millionaire. He knows how to put defenses together and having a good defensive end, you can say, hey, you're just gonna go attack the quarterback and just cause ruckus so I can create the rest of defense to do the rest. And it's just I think it'll be I think it'll be a good fit. I really do think so. It'll be a good fit.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:11

We have Judarian Price, um, running back. I I don't like this.

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SPEAKER_02 1:09:16

Seattle has four picks. I think they had four picks in this draft. I think they had four picks total in this draft whatsoever. So, and I think with that, unless I'm crazy, you can check how many picks they have. I think they started off the draft with four picks. They had eight picks? Okay, I'm crazy. Um so this is where I think Janerian Price was never the number one overall running back on that team. Um with the why why am I forgetting the name of the team? Notre Dame. He was always the number two back, and now there's a there is a question as to whether he can be the number one back taking all the carries, but I think when it comes to talent, I think he has a lot of it. I think do a lot of the same things that they were having Kenneth Walker do. And maybe he may not be the guy that you can just kind of say, hey, we're just gonna run you into the line a bunch of times like they did with Walker in the Super Bowl. But I think Seattle's always been a team that's tried to have a running back rotation. And if you're gonna add a guy like this to the rotation that can be a big pop type of player, um, catching the ball of the backfield and getting some good run playings going, I think it'd be a very good pick, and especially with how they're at like it's not like Seattle needs a lot of things to get better from their football team. They just won the fucking Super Bowl last year. So this being a potential pick, like, hey, we're just trying to get the best player on the board for us that can help us out. I think Jadarian Price is a good pick. I really do. And again, the literally the top two running backs on this board, this these he was picked, and then there wasn't another running back pick until like round three or round four. So like the running back drop-off is crazy. So it wasn't like there was a running back rated to take later on in the draft. So Jadarian Price is a very good player that I thought that Seattle picked up. So um, I think it was a good pick. I'm not gonna lie. Um, so we did went through all the first round talking about all those picks. Now I just want to do which so which team do you which team's draft do you like the most?

SPEAKER_03 1:11:20

Sorry. Um I believe he was the last pick of the picking up.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:25

He was the last pick of the first round, yeah. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:31

He wasn't the last pick. Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:32

Um the draft you like the most, just team-wise. Which team's draft do you like the most? You can think about it. I'll go first. I'm gonna go ahead and I'm going to take the um. I think the Giants drafted very well. Sorry, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let me get it. No, no, not them. I want to go with um. I'm gonna be nice. I'm gonna go with the Browns. I think they probably had the best draft.

SPEAKER_03 1:12:08

No, fuck you. They had another quarterback to their draft to their QB room. Their draft was ass.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:13

I don't like that, but I like the rest of their draft. Spencer Fano, Casey Kixemon, the Denzel Boston, two uh wide receivers. They had one of the better safeties in the draft, an Emmanuel McNeil Warren out of Toledo. They added Austin Barber, another tackle. They added um a center from Alabama, they added Joe Royer, the tight end from Cincinnati, Buckeye, which also another reason why I know him. I just think they they address a lot of issues on that football team. Again, the quarterback notwithstanding, again, but it was still a sixth-round pick. Again, that was an issue. I don't agree with that pick, but I think overall the rest of the picks they had, I think filled a lot of needs for them, and I totally understand what they were doing. I I think I like the Browns draft the most. I'm gonna be nice. We're doing the most first, then we'll get to the least. Come on, man. I know you can pick somebody that you like the most. I gave you a good out and left the Giants.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:12

I know two teams whose draft I fucking hate. Does that count?

SPEAKER_02 1:13:18

No, pick a pick okay you like that you didn't totally hate. Let's just let's just go with that. You don't have to love the draft, you just don't have to hate it. How about that? No, you still don't have anybody?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:32

Give me a second. I I have somebody. I like Carolina's draft. I think it did they did a decent job drafting. They took an offense attack in the first round, they took a DT in the second round, and then they took Chris Brazzle in the third round.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:48

In the third round, he will be a potential monster.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:52

This was the dude I had the most to say about next to Ty Simpson when we did that pod of just hey, talk about these prospects.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:57

Put him on the other side of Tet.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:59

I think this will be amazing. They took a DT they needed, they took an off attack they needed, and they picked up a nice receiver that can just sit at number two and just do what he does. And they picked up a DB and Will lead, who I don't think is the greatest corner, but I think he's a good man uh zone coverage corner. Okay, which is kind of in the NFL, that's a solid corner. Um and they took a center, a safety, and a linebacker, which I like it. I I like what they did. They picked for necessity. I'd say they hit almost everything they really needed. In D-line, um wide receiver, safety, I I think they hit everything they really needed. Um, can we get to the drafts I hate now?

SPEAKER_02 1:14:36

Can I get can I just say one more I liked?

SPEAKER_03 1:14:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:38

Houston, because they picked up offensive linemen that they needed. But you know what I what pick I love the most in this draft? The best pick I love the most in this draft was Caden McDonald in the top, like with the fourth pick in the second round. They picked up K-Mac from Ohio State, and then he fell. He was one of the he was the last player from the first day that was in on the second day. They gave him an option, say, hey, if you want to stay for the second round, we'll have um Um why am I forgetting the um Commissioner? Um Roger Goodell. Roger Goodell. Roger Goodell pretty much went to him and said, Hey, if you stay, I'll make sure I'm out, I'm out here so you we can do the hug and everything when you get drafted. Because again, they were pretty clear he's gonna get drafted very early on in the second. And he came back, stayed for another day, even though he got pretty much humiliated by being in the first. Again, the fact you're sitting there all day thinking you're gonna get drafted in the first round and you don't, that part sucks, especially when you were a first-round talent. This is not one of those guys that was a throw-in. He should have been drafted in the first round, and they let him draft fall to the Houston fucking Texans, that nasty ass defense, and now you're gonna add him to the middle of it as a defensive tackle. He's gonna be able to stop the run, and he's gonna be able to get after a quarterback, too. He's adding him to a defense that was already crazy. I think they are gonna destroy everybody. The defense already was crazy last year, and adding him is only gonna be an even better addition. And then you added um all the other guys they added, so they added Ramsey, uh, the safety from USC, did some good things, added a couple tight end, they added a wide receiver late in the draft, which I'm not sure why, because they already put so much, but again, they added guards. And again, this K Mac might have been my favorite pick in the whole draft because he just fell and he should have been a first round pick. So I had mentioned them. So go ahead, you get to the drafts you hated the most.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:26

Alright, I do not like the Bengals draft. Um so I I like uh Cassius Howe. I think it was a pretty decent pick. I don't he's a high-end, like he'll start. Yeah. Uh like uh Jacario Davis out of Washington, big big things.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:44

6'3, long arms, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:46

Like good at doing what he does. Now, Connor Lou, I don't hate he's a center, yeah. Prototypical center, right? Yep. Colby Young, I guess. Yeah. And then we took another fucking center. Okay, now real quick, this center's 6'5. And in my run, I'm like, so you guys are gonna move him to guard.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:04

Yeah, that's the plan. Yeah, yeah, that would happen.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:06

You're gonna push his ass over to guard because he's 6'5.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:09

That's a big boy.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:12

He's huge.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:13

Um 6'5 309 from Duke. Yeah. Huge.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:16

That is a big fucking center. So they're gonna look and be like, hey, you're gonna slide your left or right to go be guard.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:24

You're gonna have a big ass alarm.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:27

Uh you want to put him on the right side next to Mims? That'd be fucking hilarious.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:31

Insane.

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Uh but I got it.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:32

He's not great at pass protection, though, which is what I was reading. So, like, that's a little bit iffy.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:37

Uh so I don't understand it. And we took another tight end. And then we took a DT.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:46

Jack Endries, though, he can play and he's a big boy. Yeah. But it's just maybe that's one of two more years. That's one of those possessions where you're gonna keep transitioning guys after him, right? He's gonna say this is the number one. But like the guys behind him, you're gonna kind of keep cycling out and not trying to pay a bunch of money to. So I think he can turn into something potentially, especially with it being a seventh round pick. Not the worst thing. If he works out, he works out. If he doesn't, he doesn't. You know, that is what it is. Let's just be honest. Anything after the fourth round is pretty much a crapshoot, and if it works out, it's a nice little like low risk, high reward type of pick.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:20

Yeah, and then we took a DT out of Davy who's five foot eleven.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:26

What I have in here has six foot. That's according to ESPN, so I'm not really gonna look at the case. This is AIFL.com.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:33

You're not the only person that took somebody from from the armed forces, so my team is.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:37

We saved a man for having me go to the go into the military. So lucky him. Uh but 5'11?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:44

Yeah, he's small. Small bitch. He's shorter than me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:47

But like two through two or three inches, gang.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:50

No doubt.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:51

That that's that's that's that's uh 293 pounds.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:56

Yeah, not even a b not even a big the biggest boy. I guess it's a seventh round pick. What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_03 1:19:05

That was a seven, but that one? Yeah, he was a seventh round pick, but like there was better ones. Like there was better guys after him drafted. You did also take the running back out of Navy.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:20

Yeah, yeah, we took the running back.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:24

So either he's good or he's not. That's all they do is run the fucking game.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:26

He was a do-it-all. They he catched hot pass out of the backfield, like he did everything.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:30

Yeah, that's what they fucking do. Yeah. That's almost like, yeah, he'll probably play at some point.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:34

Uh I I just by the way, by the way, Baltimore had a really good draft too. I just think Baltimore's like they do it every year. They didn't get the guy that's like, oh my no, my how did they fall? How did he this guy fall to them? They didn't have that type of pick. But they sat and they took everybody and filled needs and they did what they had to do.

SPEAKER_03 1:19:55

Their draft was very up and down for me. They took two tight ends who I don't really neither I thought was really good. One was from Michigan State, and that was kind of like eh. I probably would not have taken him. He's not that great. They took a punter, my bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:07

They took Zion Young out of Missouri, very good edge. I think he can be a very good guy on the other on their defensive line. They took Jigobi Lane, the wide receiver from uh from uh from USC, 6'4, 200 pounds. He ran like a 4-3 something. So he'll be a very big fast receiver to for Lamar to throw to.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:24

They had a very good draft. Now, this is where it starts to tail off for me. They took the tight end out of SMU, who's a sixth-year C senior.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:32

Yeah, but older guy.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:35

Two things. One, wide receivers don't stay more than three years if they're good.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:39

That's true.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:40

Tight ends don't stay more than four if they're good.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:42

True.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:43

He's a sixth year senior as a tight end. This nigga's ass. He's ass. Right? And then he took a smaller DB who's a consistent starter, but he played it dude. So he didn't play nobody. And then he took another tight end. And then a running back, and then a fucking punter. What are we doing? Cause that was when I was looking at, I was like, I kind of like this. And then after the third round, the fourth, like the last, their last fourth round pick, it just kind of just started going downhill from it. Right. Their first four picks are good. Everything else is like, alright, I guess. Um now the drafts I really hated.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:21

Oh, which I'll I'll let you have one so you well, you can think you can think for a second. I know I. Oh, you have one? Okay, go for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:27

San Fran drafted like they're not, like they're rebuilding.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:31

Mmm. I didn't I didn't even think about them as one of them.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:35

They drafted a bunch of guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:37

They overdrafted the wide receiver, by the way, the stribbling guy. Nobody thought he was gonna be a top of the second round pick, and everybody's like, there's other guys better behind him. I'm not sure why they picked him at all. Like that was like a huge reach.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:50

They drafted a lot of high ceilings, low floor guys, right? Uh they got a lot of prototypical size kind of guys. A lot of like these guys will either be really good or really bad. Yeah, there's no in between.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:09

They took Kalen Black, the running back from Indiana. That okay. He'll be an okay back, but he won't he won't, he's not a good pass catcher, though. And run as hard as you fucking can.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:22

Like, I need you to run and fucking spearhead the game.

SPEAKER_02 1:22:25

Run through this hole, and it's gonna be for a good game because that's how it is for that running game.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:29

There's an amount that are like, hey, go run through a motherfucker. Yeah, no doubt. But I'm looking at all these guys like these are special teamers. Yeah, these are not dudes. No doubt. These are high ceiling, low floor kind of guys. Yeah. And I'm like, you guys are trying to win games, right? There was better receivers you could have drafted at the top of the second round. Uh there was better edge rushers you could have taken. Uh Romelio?

SPEAKER_02 1:22:57

Yeah, Romelo. Romelo height from nobody knew why he got picked in the second round. Third, sorry, third round pick.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:07

Yeah, no doubt. It's bad. Yeah. It's not good. Their draft, it's bad. Kalon Black is their best pick. Uh, and that's their third round pick. They took a tackle out of Washington, who's good at run blocking, but that's it. That is truly all he's good at. He has good size, but he's slow. So he ran a five set five, he ran a five like five as a tackle? You're like, you're talking you want like a 4-9, 4-8.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:41

It's gonna, it's not really like they need tackle help right now, because they did just they re-signed um worse. Nope, not worse. He plays for Tampa Bay. Um, you're th it's uh who cares?

SPEAKER_03 1:23:54

Who cares?

SPEAKER_00 1:23:55

Yeah, yeah, go for keyboard.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:56

But like I just this is drafting, like, hey, we're trying to see if these guys can be good in the future. Right. When y'all are in kind of y'all are in win now mode.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:04

No doubt.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:05

Your stars are aging, like you needed a receiver horrendously bad, and you did not take one that was worth a damn.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:12

Um They did, you know, they did get uh Mike Evans, though. So, you know, they do have somebody to throw to.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:21

You got two years of Mike Evans left?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:22

Like I Trent Williams, they re-signed him to a two-year$50 million deal.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:26

Again, Trent Williams ain't all that young.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:27

He's 38. Yeah, no doubt.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:29

So you were like, well, this was bad.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:32

They don't have any type of backup plan behind him right now. And he's coming, he's gonna be coming off an injury. He may not be able to start. No, I don't think so, but he's again, he's not gonna be able to start the season. He's coming off the uh ruptured Achilles, so it is what it is on that one. Um so yeah, I totally I totally agree with you. It's weird graft. Weird draft.

SPEAKER_03 1:24:56

What the fuck are y'all doing? What are y'all doing? Green Bay was also bad. They took uh Brandon uh Cise.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:03

Yeah, he's apparently he's a talented corner, but apparently his school didn't even like him. They they talked so much shit about him during the pre-jaft process, which is why he fell. Everybody was saying he could have been a first-round pick, but then everything out of South Carolina said that he was an asshole and didn't do the right things, which is why he fell. Again, maybe Green Bay will figure it out, but I I agree. Uh I will say getting denied Dennis Sutton in the fourth round, he is a talented pass rusher, but is he actually good? Probably not, because he wasn't all that great at Penn State. But he has a talent. And again, you're gonna start off this season without having uh Micah Parsons. So like being able to maybe get another guide on the other side of him could be something. I'm just saying. So, like, but I do agree with you. It's their draft is definitely weird overall. I don't really like any of it. There's one more that I really didn't really. Can I get him on here before you take mine? Detroit, I hated Detroit's draft.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:59

Damn it. There it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:01

Blake Miller, their first their first round pick was fine, but everything past that makes no fucking sense whatsoever. Taking um Derek Moore and Jimmy Rolder, their next two picks from Michigan, Derek Moore didn't do shit there. And he, I think he had like 10 sacks, he had 10 sacks 2025, but he's not really looked at as a guy that's gonna be like, it would be great from day one. But again, maybe he'll be your the you already have your premier pass rusher. So like maybe he can be your number two. But think about their fourth round pick, Jimmy Rolder, this linebacker from Michigan, 6'2, 238 as a linebacker, and his best um, his best um clip was getting totally destroyed by um well why am I uh by Bo Jackson in the Ohio State Michigan game where he got like he he he uh juke somebody, gave him a little stutter step and ran past him. This dude ain't fast whatsoever, has no speed at the linebacker position. When you're gonna have to be worried about running backs and tight ends, he's not gonna be able to do any of that at his size, his length, his speed. Not a good pick whatsoever. And the other guys they've picked up, this guy from Arizona State at 5'10, 187, a very small corner. I don't think he'll be a long-term answer. Kendrick Law, the wide receiver from Kentucky, another small wide receiver at a spot, you don't really need a lot of wide receiver help. So like, why would you pick up a guy like that in the fifth round? The guy, Skylargill Howard in the sixth round, he's a 6'1, 280 defensive tackle. He's not the smallest, but he's not really a big guy that you can put in the middle of your defense to stop the run. Again, it's a sixth round pick, so like again, like I said, it's all a crapshoot once you get past the fourth round. And I just think overall, I just did not like the Lions draft whatsoever. Outside of their first their first pick uh first round pick. So like that was that was a draft I was not necessarily a fan of. And then what was another pick I really didn't like? Um All right, the Jacksonville draft.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:58

That was also another one I hated.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:00

Had a bunch of picks and did not do a lot of shit with them. Their tight end they picked up in the second round, Nate Borecer, Kreisher, or something. He's 6'4, 245 from Tex AM. Why did they pick him up in the second round at all? Again, there was a little bit of a tight end run there, but there were so many tight ends they could have picked up that were better than this guy. And he didn't do shit at Tex AM. Again, he's a big guy, maybe be able to block for you, but he's not much of a guy that can really get a lot of catches out of the bat out of the um from the tight end position. So I'm like, I didn't understand that pick at all, especially in the second round. Those guys are meant to be starters. And I'm like, I don't think he'll ever touch the field for them. And then you picked up Albert Regis from Tech AM, the D DT, a smaller, again, he might be just a space eater, but it doesn't make sense why you picked him in the third. There's other guys you could have picked up. The pregnant um from the guard from Oregon, I think he might be good, but he wasn't consistent. But I think he was a really good guard that I think he might be able to do something. But like that was one little needle in a haystack that you found in the middle of the third round. But I think outside of that, you don't like Jalen Husky from Maryland, Wesley Williams from Duke. I'm just sitting there like, there wasn't there isn't a lot of guys that you can sit there and be like, oh, they're gonna be day one contributors for our team. I just don't think they got that, which is why I'm just I don't I won't like their draft whatsoever. You got any other draft you didn't like? Nah. Okay, but I think we both came kind of went off with a lot of drafts here.

Freak Athletes And Late Draft Notes

SPEAKER_03 1:29:26

I do have something I want to talk about. Do you know how the NFL has the international player pathway program? Yeah, at the same time, the place where Jordan Mallotta came from. Yeah. So the Eagles drafted a guy towards the seventh round, right? Okay. He was a 6'4 player. He's a six foot four.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:48

Or Bernard?

SPEAKER_03 1:29:51

Yeah. He ran a four-five. A thirty a 42-inch vertical jump. A ten foot five. That's insane. Which were the best. Some of the best in history, right? Right. Now the Eagles also subject my lot of who never played football either. True.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:17

So they've done this before of trying to teach people how to play football and making it work.

SPEAKER_03 1:30:22

This kid was brought into the camp by a nigga in Domaku. So he's not he's never played football. But you're talking NFL legends have looked at me like, hey, we should bring him into this camp and teach him how to play football. Uh sorry, I I it was on my Instagram because I like watching stuff like this. Right. And it was just weird. I'm watching this dude run down like holy fucking shit. Holy crap. He's never played football before. Now if I see this dude in two years come off the edge running that fast at anybody, I might show up. Yeah. It's about four or five at 300 pounds.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:58

That's crazy athleticism. No doubt. Crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:03

You can do something with him.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:05

You can figure something out.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:07

Right.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:07

Throw him somewhere. He's never even played like rugby.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:11

Especially on defense. You just hey gay egg. Just go eat up space. Go chase them down. Go get go get them. No doubt.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:17

I'm throwing this dude on special teams. Like, hey, I need to run full fucking speed at somebody. Yeah. Go try to kill someone. Uh, but like, sorry, it was just something cool.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:25

Eli Stowers, by the way, you mentioned the Eagles. I have to get to them. Eli Stowers, the tight end I was talking about, they picked up in the second round from Vanderbilt. He will be an absolute monster to deal with for defenses. He's 6'4, 239. He plays like a wide receiver, but he has big tight end size. I think he will be, again, along with him and Mikhail Lemon, I think they're trying to replace not having AJ Brown on your team anymore, and they get a little bit of size out of Eli Stowers. But to have a real option as your next tight end one after um why am I forgetting? It has a left who's left who is the tight end for them right now? Um Goddard, Dallas Goddard. Um, once he is done, you're gonna have a real tight end one to be able to be the next guy, and until then, you're gonna be able to do some really cool two tight end sets um for defense to have to deal with because both having those two pass catchers at the tight end position will be absolutely insane. But Eli Stours is not a blocker at all, but as a weapon, as a real guy to throw the ball to, I think he'll be insane to deal with for a lot of defenses. So that was a very good pick from that was a very good pick for the uh Eagles. I had to make sure I mentioned them too. And then you met you got to mention your ba your your Bengals and how you didn't like their draft.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:43

I didn't love it.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:44

I did not love the Steelers draft either.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:46

I don't think it was horrible. There was guys that were.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:48

Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:48

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:49

I think you guys picked a lot of needs.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:51

I think the first two guys we drafted, I like.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:32:53

I think I like them. It's just everybody else. I'm like, I don't I think they have full 100% that center is going to guard. Um he's six foot five. He should have never been playing center.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:05

Right. No doubt. Um, for me, I think for the Steelers, because I got I do have to mention the Steelers at some point. We met mentioned the tackle in the first round we picked up again after wanting um Mikhail Lemon and not getting him, having Maxianachor, I think, will be a very good tackle pick, and especially at right tackle, I think he'll be a very good long-term answer for us on the O-line. But the the rest of the draft, Jeremy Bernard in the second round, the Alabama wide receiver, I think will be a very good slot receiver that you can throw in there on the in the middle of our D of our offense. And I think he'll be able to pick up good spots in the in zone coverage and be able to make some good plays. He's not necessarily the most explosive guy after the catch. But from everything everybody's talked about him is that he knows what he's doing, he knows where he knows defenses really well, and he'll be able to be a guy to kind of pick spots in the middle of the field to help out the uh quarterback. And I think that'll be a very good pick to have him at the slot receiver. But where I don't get the rest of this draft is where they go next. I literally, so the story was on Saturday, sorry, Friday, going into the third round, I was texting our guy, Jake, and before the third round even started, and only two quarterbacks have been taken, and I texted him, hey, I'm really scared that the Pittsburgh Steelers are going to draft a quarterback in this round. And I'm you want to, Jace, if you don't believe me, I can show you the text that I that I sent even before the third round started. I said, I'm scared that we're gonna draft a quarterback in this round with one of our three third round picks, and I'm even more scared that it's gonna be fucking Drew Aller. And I've been mentioning Drew Aller as a potential guy for the Steelers for three months, and I've been talking about this dude knowing that this is gonna happen, and I felt like I am a little profit because I've been talking about this for so long, and I fucking crashed out when they made this pick in the third round because Drew Aller was ass throughout his time at Penn State. He can't hit a target moving away from him to save his fucking life. He's not necessarily all that athletic, even for all the athletic tools that he has. He's not very athletic whatsoever. He's not a consistent passer, he can hit some big plays down the field, but outside of that, he's not doing anything in the middle of the field at all. He's not a very rhythm passer, he's not a big pass, he's not a big player in big moments at Penn State. And he played for three years there. So it's not even like it's one of those, like only he played for one year. There's some growing for him to do. Like he played three years and never got better while he was there. And you can blame a little bit of that on the terrible coaching that he had potentially. I totally will be happy to talk about how bad the coaching was at Penn State over the last few years. I'm happy to say so. But I think him himself was never gotten better as a quarterback. So I'm just I hated the fact that they drafted him because I just don't think he'll ever work. And then after that, we drafted the cornerback Dalen Everett from Georgia. I think he will be a very good long-term answer as being like a guy. He's not gonna really gonna be a starter, I don't think. But he's 6'1, 196, long arms. Not necessarily the fastest, but he he actually he ran like a 4-4. So he's he has good speed for his size. I think that's a good pick. But then the other guys we picked Gennings Dunker, an offensive tackle from Iowa. I think we're gonna put him in, make him a guard, but he's 6'5, 319, so he'll be a big ass fucking guard.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:13

Okay. So y'all did the same shit we did.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:16

No doubt.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:17

I just don't get it.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:18

And again, he played at Iowa, so he knows how to play big boy football. Uh-huh. But he's gonna play fucking guard. He's not a tackle. Hail Baylon motherfucker. He has a fucking mullet. He's a redhead mullet.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:27

Big old hail bailing motherfucker.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:29

No fucking devil. So I don't hate that pick, but I'm like, it's gonna, will he be able to make that change? But then our next, all of our next picks, I didn't understand. Caden Wetgen, an Iowa wide receiver, 5'9, 193.

SPEAKER_03 1:36:42

The gadget guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:44

Like, why in the fifth round?

SPEAKER_03 1:36:45

Dude, I texted you about this. I was at I was sitting at a restaurant. It didn't make any sense to me. It was a pub, and I'm looking over at them, I looked at who you all draft, and I'm like, I call you, and I'm like, Do you see who just drafted? And you're like, no. And you're looking at him, like, where the fuck? We draft somebody who was five foot nine.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:00

Another wide receiver, too.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:01

I was like, bro, I don't get this one. He I was like, he looked kind of like a gadget guy. They were using him in like a different sequences and shit. Right. Like maybe he could shake up the offense, but then like you were like, Yeah, but we have Jalen Warren for that.

SPEAKER_01 1:37:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:13

I'm like, uh, I had nothing to say to you after that. It's like, yeah, it's what Jalen Warren does.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:18

Yeah. So maybe he'll be a returner. Maybe that'll be his answer. But you're drafting a returner in the fourth round. That's fucking insane. There's still good players at that spot. There's still good players to draft in the fourth round. Like, there's still other players to draft, and you drafted him that didn't make sense to me. Riley Noakowski, a tight end from um Indiana. Again, he played well in Indiana, but he's 6'2, 250. We just drafted a wide receiver in the second round that's 6'1. How are we going to draft a tight end that's not even an inch taller than our than a wide receiver we just drafted? And we already have wide we already have two tight ends. We we have. And then I read up about him, and he mostly played fullback, and I kind of going back, I kind of remember him being more of a blocker, kind of doing some of like the more trick play stuff. But I'm like, why are we drafting him? We already have tight ends.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:04

You have a big old six chicks motherfucker who will be.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:06

He can draft tackles. He can draft tackles.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:10

In Washington, Dwayne Washington.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:11

Darnell Washington.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:12

Darnell Washington. I said, but I said Dwayne, but I was close. Closer than usual. I just totally forget the names most of the time.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:17

Closer than usual is not a good job.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:20

But I just don't get why we picked him. It didn't make any sense to me from him. And then Gabriel Rubio, the DT out of out of Notre Dame. He's small. He's a big run stuffer, but I'm just like, it doesn't make any sense. And then Robert Speakers-Jennings, Oklahoma safety. I just think overall there's a few picks I like, but most of the I just meh on most of the draft. Meh. Maxi Anitore and Jeremy Bernard are the two, and then Dalen Everett. And then outside of that, I'm like, I don't know what the fuck we're doing. It's a lot of bullshit. We're drafting it otherwise. And I'm like, maybe something will work. And then the seventh round running back from Navy, maybe he can be a trick play. But again, we just drafted a guy like that. The Iowa guy.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:58

So I know. At least this dude's six foot.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:01

At least this one's six foot. 198 is at least good size.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:04

So what the fuck's the other dude for?

SPEAKER_02 1:39:07

Exactly fucking lootly. It didn't make any sense to me. So I'm just sitting there like there's a lot of bullshit we drafted. Even if we got a couple guys that might help, I just wasn't a I just I just I didn't like the Drew Aller draft pick. I just didn't I didn't fucking again. You say you like Will Howard so much, you've talked so much good things about him, and then you draft the guy in the third round, that makes me think that you don't like Will Howard at all. Or this tells me that Aaron Rodgers ain't coming, and now you're gonna have a three-man race in Mason Rudolph, um Will Howard, and Drew Aller.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:39

That's the thing, is is it a race or is it like, hey Mason, you're probably gonna be starting for this year?

SPEAKER_02 1:39:43

Mason maybe, possibly, but also they're gonna give maybe give the other two guys a young a shot.

SPEAKER_03 1:39:49

Just to see if one of them shows any and shows enough promise to be like, hey, we're just gonna throw it to you. Yeah. If you get better, you get better. If you don't, who cares?

SPEAKER_02 1:39:56

Right. I just I just think if you if you liked if you liked Will Howard as much as you say you did, why would you draft Drew Aller in the third round? It doesn't make any sense to me.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:05

Can I say something? Would you have been more okay if your team had drafted Cade Klubnick? No. Because at least he's at least he's athletic.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:13

Cade Klubnick is ass throwing the football. I again I have the same a lot of the same problems as with him as I do with Drew Aller.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:20

Well, I hey it was just a question. Because I he went to the Jets. A couple quarterbacks picked. I don't know a lot of these guys. Actually, I know basically everybody that was drafted in the first three rounds. Um Do you think what really kept Diego Pavio from getting drafted is that he's unlikable?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:40

That he's fucking 5'9. Like there's a there's a lot of there's a lot, there's a long list that you can go to to say why he didn't get drafted.

SPEAKER_03 1:40:48

Because I don't know. He's not special in any way. Like he played well at Vanderbilt, but like Cinderella seasons happen.

SPEAKER_02 1:40:55

You're okay. Okay, here's the thing. Just because you play well in college doesn't guarantee you that you should be an NFL player. Troy Smith was one of the best college quarterbacks ever. Gets drafted by the Ravens, doesn't do shit with his career. Um Johnny Mantel had one of the best freshman years of all time at Texas AM, had a pretty good college career, doesn't do shit in the NFL. Like there's a lot of players that great have hold on.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:26

I can't give you Manzell. Um I can't give you that one. The Browns organization was a fucking dumpster fire. I can't 100% give you that one. He had a lot of off-the-field issues. I can't give you as talented, he was worth that pick. He was talented. He shouldn't have been a first-round pick. No, but that boy was talented.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:42

He had talent.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:43

That boy with the right organization would have been a starting quarterback.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:46

I I'm not willing to say that for certain.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:49

I really thought you were about to say RG3 to me. I was gonna whip your ass.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:51

Uh oh no, they fucked around with RG3, got him hurt, and all that. He should have never been in that game. Um don't use RG3. No.

SPEAKER_03 1:41:59

I'm not upset about it. I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:01

I don't care at all. Fuck that.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:03

It doesn't help.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:04

I think teams He will be a legend in with in Tennessee forever.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:08

Yes, I think teams could have gotten over you being small if you weren't a total jackass.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:15

No one likes you.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:17

If you are gonna be a if you're gonna be drafted or picked up to be a backup quarterback, he'd be a decent dude. Good vibes guy.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:23

And he's just not that. We talked about the four-pods. He's an asshole. I don't really care that much. I was just looking at all the quarterback that weren't.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:28

Oh, for people complaining as to why he didn't get picked up, I'm like, come on, dude.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:32

He's small and he's a douche. It doesn't, you can't.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:34

And he doesn't have any great trait. Like, if you even compare him to other guys of his size, Russell Wilson, rocket of an arm. Kyler Murray, all around talent, one of the best Texas high school quarterbacks in history, won a Heisman, and he had all the talent that Diego Pavia would sell his family off to have. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:42:51

And just like the other thing is there's a difference. They said Russell Wilson, because Russell Wilson was also a Heisman finalist. No, he was not. Um, but the Kyler Murray one got me, and my brain went, it's definitely the Heisman finalist, and he outright won the fucking Heisman.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:08

Well, Johnny Menzel didn't, Troy Smith did. So like being a great college quarterback doesn't make you an NFL quarterback. Which is not a guarantee, it's not a guaranteed thing. It doesn't fuck.

SPEAKER_03 1:43:16

He will be on a team eventually. Um I don't doubt that.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:20

Even if he don't, like that's it, it is what it fucking is. He's if he was walking around great UFO quarterback. If he was walking around at 6'5, then I can understand because at least he has some physical tools to rely upon to make him work. Yeah. He would have been wrapped. But he just he doesn't have a great RM. He's 5'9, dude. He just come on, 5'9. Like, not even like a tall 5'9, close to 5'10. He's 5'9. So there like is no fucking around with that. Yeah, and he's and he's an asshole. And like you can't add him to your room thinking he's gonna do all the right things. That's just not how what he's done throughout his career. Like, and again, it's just good vibes, guy. When they draft you and they bring you in, you have to know what your spot is, and he'll come in like, oh, when am I gonna start? Like, you're never motherfucker. That'll be what that'll be him. So I'm just sitting there like, it's just like you can never have a quarterback that comes in thinking they're too big for anything, and that's why Cam Newton was never able to be a great backup quarterback, was because everybody was always gonna look at him, and it was for a different reason because he's so talented and he's done any NFL. Like, everybody's gonna be like, any anytime anything goes wrong, why not have Cam Newton play? Guess what? Nobody's looking for fucking Diego Pavia to play on their NFL team.

SPEAKER_03 1:44:29

I get it, I don't care, but I just wanted to anybody wants to root for him and make that case.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:33

I'm just like, y'all are stupid and don't make any fucking sense. Sorry, the Diego Pavia thing. He just pisses me off. I'm sitting there like, again, you can't sit here and play the victim after you've done so much talking, you talk so much shit throughout your NFL your college career. You he will be able to be a legend in tennis, in Nashville, Tennessee forever. He'll never be able to have to pay for a meal. He'll never have to, he'll be able to make as many businesses as he wants there. He will be a king for the rest of his goddamn life in Tennessee. But he will not be an NFL football player. And maybe he'll go and play in the um UFL or the Arena Football League and do some things like cool, fine. Maybe he still has some little bit of uh highlight playing some more football, but like at the end of the day, he'll be able to be a legend in Tennessee forever. And sometimes that's okay. Go do your thing. Braxton Miller doesn't really have much of an NFL career. He comes back, everybody loves him. Did you see how um um um oh my forget he was saying now? Fucking Lamar, he tweeted the other day, Braxton Miller highlights are insane. Like, and then everybody's like, yeah, dude, did you not know? And then you go back and watch Braxton Miller highlights. He's a legend in Ohio forever. He lives here, he has a bunch of businesses, and he's a legend here, and he'll never everybody will love him forever.

SPEAKER_03 1:45:48

Uh what's his name? Cordell Patterson? No. Who's at the Aviators game?

SPEAKER_02 1:45:56

Oh, Cardell Jones. He won a national championship. Legend forever.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:01

They cheered louder for Cardell Jones than they did for the Aviators.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:05

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:05

Fucking what's his name? Gavin Raw? Gavin de Gros.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:09

Gavin de Gros, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:10

Comes up, Skew didn't get as big of a cheer as he did. Exactly. Playing music. Right. I know some of these songs. Right. Not all these songs. Uh he's an artist. Yeah. Nah, I'm most looking at one national championship, got the biggest cheer that.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:24

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:24

Uh just for him to leave the stadium. He didn't watch that shit. He went home.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:28

He didn't give two fucks. No. He's out, but again, you get to be a legend here forever, and that's what he'll get to be in Tennessee. And that'll be great. He'll have an awesome life. He really will. And he'll have a bunch of businesses. He'll never have a real job for the rest of his life. There'll be a bunch of millionaires in Tennessee that's willing to give him money just to be their spokesperson.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:44

Right now, you should go to Nashville and find some dude who wants a car dealership. Hey, throw my face up.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:48

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:48

Like, is this dude like come on?

SPEAKER_02 1:46:50

He'll never work a real job ever.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:51

And you don't have to.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:52

And that's the closest thing he'd get to a real job is maybe being a realtor. But even still, you just get to go be a pretty face and put your face on some houses and you make a bunch of money.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:00

You're just selling large houses to rich white people.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:02

That'll be the closest thing to a regular job he'll ever have.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:05

You don't even gotta do nothing. You just gotta walk around the house and then finish a paperwork.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:07

And I'm not even saying he'll be a realtor. I think he'll just be a spokesperson in Tennessee for the rest of his life and he'll make a ton of money. So I'm just saying, like, that's okay. You it just I'm people are caping up. I'm like, you're not real humans that have brains. Just come on, man. You just you're just not real, man. It doesn't make any sense to me. Um I have one other thing I want to talk about because there was a big trade that you talked about one trade that happened in during the draft. There was another one that happened. Uh Jonathan Gernard got traded from Minnesota to the Eagles. And then he got a big he got a big$100 million contract. But he was one of Minnesota's best players, and they traded him away for two third-round picks, a third round this year and a third round next year. And again, probably they just didn't want to pay the guy because he did want to get paid money. Because again, they it's only$25 million a year.$50 million guaranteed.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:04

Are they at like, hey, we should like tank, or hey, we should try to win football. Because y'all don't have a quarterback. No, they do. Who's their quarterback?

SPEAKER_02 1:48:15

Yeah, Kyler. So y'all don't have a quarterback? Don't fucking don't come on. It's Kyler. You don't think Kyler Murray will work?

SPEAKER_03 1:48:23

Writing your contract, gotta read the playbook, Kyler Murray. Nigga, hey, you gotta study this amount of time. Fuck out of here. I think No. No. You really can't.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:33

Should win a Super Bowl work?

SPEAKER_03 1:48:35

Absolutely the fuck not.

SPEAKER_02 1:48:36

But I think he'll get them to the playoffs. Is that enough?

SPEAKER_03 1:48:39

When is it enough?

SPEAKER_02 1:48:41

More than more than it's it's ten times more than what they'll ever get out of fucking J. J. McCarthy.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:46

I'm sorry. Did Sam Darnold have them in the uh NFC divisional?

SPEAKER_02 1:48:51

No, he got them to the first round of the playoffs and they lost. No, they got out of the first round of the playoffs in the second round. No, they didn't.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:59

Doesn't matter. I don't think Kyler Murray's that good.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:01

Uh I think Kyler Murray with those weapons that they have, I think they'll be able to be a really good, and especially he'll be in a dome. Like, again, he'll have to deal with some bad weather, but he's dealt with plenty of bad weather throughout his time playing and playing in football. So I'm just sitting here like, I think he actually can work. Again, I'm leaving them a Super Bowl is probably a different question, but like they're paying him next nothing this year to figure it out. I'm not sure where. But I just I just think overall, I think he could be a very good pick. And I think trading Grenard to um to the Eagles, I think he'll be a he'll be a great asset over to the Eagles. But again, if they never get if they never get uh Jalen Hurts to play good football again, and they can't you know get 2,000 yards out of Saquon, and they're getting rid of AJ Brown, I'm just not sure what the Eagles are fucking doing. But I I don't know. I just want to talk about that. Oh you said Pavia, Diego Pavia accepts invite to Baltimore Ravens minicamp. Guess what? He'll never Touch the fucking football field. Like, like, what the fuck are we doing? He tries to say one fucking thing and to around Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson will look at him the wrong way and he'll get cut.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:13

The Ravens would have were the team I expected to take the quarterback from Arkansas more. That's the team I expected to take him. But they don't need it. I know. I think because the Browns have an offensive scheme. They're a new offensive scheme that would fit a guy like that. If he could hit anything, yeah. Now you got a bunch of receivers that can't catch, and you got a quarterback that can't throw. Y'all just trying to make your minicamp look fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:42

Yeah, I don't think Diego Pavia. He gets an invite. He gets an invite. Who cares? You get a chance to make the team. You get a chance. If he does something with it, he does something with it. But guess what? It's not gonna fucking happen. Lamar's gonna tower over this man.

SPEAKER_03 1:50:59

But Lamar is six foot three, six foot four.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:01

Right. And Lamar's not necessarily the biggest quarterback in the world. He's still pretty thin. Like he's not a towering personality.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:09

No, no. I I can say Lamar's like filled out.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:13

Yeah. He's not like no, he's not yoked. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:16

But are you, I don't, dude, I don't care. It's I don't care.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:19

I don't give two fucks. I don't give two fucks. Um, and then the last thing, I don't really need Jace to talk about, he's just walked away, but I don't really need him to talk about this part. Jamad McCoy, who was a corner that was from Tennessee, he everybody was saying how he was gonna be a potential first-round draft pick, and then he fell all the way to the fourth top of the fourth round. And the news came out that like everybody knew he was coming off an ACL, and nobody was really worried about that. But the news came out that he had some sort of weird surgery where they use a bone fragment from a different part of his leg to fill. I think it was called it was not the ACL. Um, let me see here. It was some type of weird, weird surgery that he had that they're not sure if he's gonna have to get it redone. If it does, he may not be the best, a good player again if it doesn't work out. But he dropped all the way from being a potential first-round pick to be at the top of the fourth round because of injury. That part sucks because he did have all the talent in the world when he was kind of doing his thing at Tennessee. But it's just it's one of those things like uh, if like an injury like that happens, it's like meh, it just sucks for everybody. And then the Garrett Nussmeyer, the quarterback from LSU. Okay, I got you. Um, he fell all the way to like the sixth round, sixth or seventh round. Yep. Um to the Chiefs. I think and I think he actually might be able to be made into a good starting quarterback taking two or three years there, and then I think he'll get some type of money three or four years down the road because some team's gonna give him a chance, because he does have a crazy arm.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:48

Yes, that was I was okay. So I was going to all the quarterbacks that were draft, and I was rooting up on him, and they were the one that's saying like he has the best arm talent in this draft.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:56

But he's just terrible decision making, but like he's gonna be with Andy Reid for the next couple years. He might actually become a guy that comes out of it and some team will give him a chance. Yeah. And again, he's never really actually gonna start there with, but he'll be JSC's the bathroom so bad.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:13

All right, then, okay, okay, okay. This nigga will not start unless Patrick Mahomes has died.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:20

Alright, that was just a thought ahead. I'm sorry.

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