Ravens Cancel Maxx Crosby Trade and Free Agency Winners and Losers

First episode of the new year!! The boys are back and there's been a lot of movement in the first couple days of NFL new year and one move that's been very publicly rescinded. 'The Lock Smith' Cole Smithson talks about his Raiders being dragged through the mud by the scumbag Ravens and 'Slick Willy' Will Einfalt gives his winners and losers from early free agency. Love y'all. Enjoy.

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SPEAKER_00 0:00

Hoy hoy to joy to joy joy.

SPEAKER_01 0:02

One two, a check of one, two. With two minutes to go. It's fourth and thirty-two. Hello and welcome back to the fourth and thirty-two podcast. I'm your host, Cole Smithson, the locksmith, and joining me as always. It's great to see you again, buddy. It's been way too long, but it's the lightest man in podcasting. It is Slick Willie Will Einfeld. How you doing, buddy?

SPEAKER_04 0:38

I'm doing well. I'm doing well. I'm glad to glad to have some NFL news kind of getting me back in uh out of the other uh news we have going on in the world. And uh yeah, I'm doing well otherwise.

SPEAKER_01 0:51

Yeah, no, happy to hear it. We just talked for an hour before we came on. So uh it's gonna be a jam-packed podcast. We're here on, I guess, the fourth day of free agency, second official day of free agency to kind of wrap up where everyone went. Um, we got some exciting stuff to talk about. Obviously, the Max Crosby thing with me as a Raiders fan. Uh, this is the biggest news in the league right now. Uh the Ravens subversion of both the rules and uh societal norms. Uh, we're about to get into that. We got Kyler to the Vikings. Nine, you might be in trouble. Uh, a bunch of trades to talk about that have happened in the last month since we last recorded a podcast. Uh, we'll go through the top 101 or 100 free agents uh list, kind of talk about the biggest signings, and then Will's gonna wrap the show with some winners and losers. Uh, hope y'all enjoy the podcast, but we got to dive right into the Max Crosby situation. So I believe it was about a week ago we got the news that Max Crosby traded to the Ravens for the 14th pick in the upcoming draft and a 2027 first-round pick. This was very un-Ravens-like of them. And I was excited to come on here and talk about like, yeah, I'm sad. I love Max Crosby. He embodies the Raiders franchise, but we didn't do right by him. We never build a really good team around him. And it's sad to see him go, but he's going to a contender that I like. I like Lamar Jackson. I enjoy the Ravens franchise. Well, no more. Well, no more, because Max Crosby was in the Ravens building. And this is a guy that I love. He's showing his family the facilities.

SPEAKER_04 2:34

Meeting everybody just having a time.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Having a time.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

He was excited to be there and potentially be on a contending team for the first time in his career. I know we made the playoffs in 2021, but that's relevant. And they pull him into the office and they go, We're not doing this. That's a story. That's an awful thing to do. And they cast aspersions onto this man saying that he failed as physical, and they were concerns from their doctors. Well, if he failed as physical, you should never have done the trade in the first place. They uh went around the rules because technically the trade wasn't official because it happened before the official league year. Legal tampering period. Absolutely. And they go out and sign Trey Hendrickson from their rival Bangles the day after. So there's a couple theories on why this happened because Max Crosby is coming off meniscus surgery. So obviously he's not fully healthy right now, but every doctor said that he's gonna be fully healthy by the time the season starts. This is a guy that plays over 95% of the snaps pretty much every season. Missed what, two games at the end of last year? He was playing on a bad knee for a lot of the season last year, still playing 90 plus percentage of the snaps. And that's how he's gonna be for the next couple seasons. I know he's on a big contract, but he's one of the best pass rushers in the league. And you not only did you hurt his trade value by coming out and saying that, so you fuck over the Raiders in one way, but you just got cold feet. You just got cold feet. You got you thought it was too much to give up. You're a franchise that doesn't trade draft picks like this. I think it was the first time they had traded a first-round pick. Ever. Yeah. Ever. So you just went, eh, I'd rather not. Well, fuck you, Baltimore Ravens. And I love Lamar Jackson. This isn't a Lamar Jackson thing, but I I now have a team to hate in the NFL, and I love having a team to hate. I love having a reason to hate a team. And Max Crosi said he can't wait to get back uh onto the field and show the Ravens why they made such a mistake. He's better than Trey Hendrickson. Yeah. I think pretty much without a doubt. And Hendrickson's 31. You got a guy that potentially uh, I think it's two, two years guaranteed there. That might not even be good by the end of this contract that you signed to him. He had four and a half sacks last year. He was super hurt. Whereas your doctor's there, but you you're like, I I saw somebody tweet, oh, the trade for the Ravens is Max Crosby for trade Hendrickson and two first-round picks. It's like, fuck you. You you made this deal. You made the Raiders look look dumb for uh not going with another team that might have had a lesser offer because you you uh suckered us in with that 14th overall pick. And this is just scummy work. Like nobody should work with the Ravens. Obviously, it's not gonna happen. If some if they have something the team wants, they're gonna work with them. But but fuck this. Like it just, you're such a bad guy. You're and you're you're such a shitty organization for doing this. And the karma's gonna hate you. I truly do believe that. And that just affects our boy Lamar Jackson, who's entering his late prime. And I think that's all for all reasons, it's fucked up. And I I want your thoughts on this, and I got a couple more things I think might have happened.

SPEAKER_04 5:59

I heard it compared to a post-net clarity.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:02

And it well, it kind of was like it happened on a on a Friday, is when we heard the news. And the the Ravens kind of waited until they saw it. Sex happens. Yeah, yeah. The Ravens, the Ravens kind of waited, and they're like, oh, wait, no one's signed Hendrickson yet. Can we offer him? And it'll be cheaper than the two first round picks. We can pay him the same amount of money. Yeah, he's not the same player, but he's the second best pass rusher available. And uh, yeah, I I I'm kind of with you. I hope that they're I kind of hope they're cursed, um, in another sense, because they really did the the Raiders and Crosby very dirty because he wanted to go to a winning organization. He was gonna play his ass off. Their doctors said he failed it, and and it's just it's just a really scummy move. It it's it is, I guess, a smart move, but it's it's I just hope it it never pays off for him. Oh Hendrickson at the age of 31 is never the player that Crosby can be, and that they they they lose from this deal.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

Yeah, and uh they got a worse player. Yes, they got to keep their 14th overall pick, which is probably the biggest reason they did this. And was this potentially uh I I think it's probably because what they saw in the media, they saw a lot of people saying, oh, the Raiders won this trade, the the Ravens gave up so much, uh, other teams weren't willing to offer this, yada, yada, yada. But that's that's just bullshit anyway. And is it possible that because the Raiders signed Tyler Linderbaum, the the best offensive lineman in free agency, to a huge deal, and we went out and spent a ton of money, they just went, ah, well, fuck the Raiders for taking our center. And here, here you go, here's damage goods back. Like I'm they were gonna lose him anyway.

SPEAKER_04 7:52

I really think they're just like, let's keep our for two first round picks because we pay the same price, and it's still a pass rusher we need. Which Hendrickson is a he is a pass rusher, but he's not the run stopper that that Crosby is. He's not the guy that's gonna play all three downs and work his ass off until your quarterback is is around.

SPEAKER_01 8:13

And he's younger. He's way younger. And it it's just it's not as good of a move for them. And yeah, you gave up two first, but I think that's kind of what Crosby's worth. I hope that we can go find him a nice team to go to, a nice home. Do you think you trained Crosby? I I I want to say yes because it seemed like he wanted out, and uh it he wasn't very happy with how the last season ended, but potentially now we're ready to come back on this team. We're gonna talk about the Raiders in a second, who just went out and spent a ton of money in free agency. And I I think the Ra here's my other take on this. I think the Ravens should be held accountable for this.

SPEAKER_04 8:54

I think that Goodelly and penalize a like a third rounder or something.

SPEAKER_01 8:58

I I completely agree. I heard someone saying, oh, they might lose those first rounders anyway. I don't think they're taking a first rounder from us. No. I and but they should lose a draft pick.

SPEAKER_04 9:07

Yeah. Yeah, I think that'll be probably a third rounder for this. And this might have killed this legal tampering period. They might have they might just do away with this bullshit if if shit like this didn't happen.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

I just think you if you agree to terms on a deal, you can't just go through they they gotta close the loophole where you can just have your team doctor say whatever you want. Also, I learned that the Ravens have done this before. Uh Will Compton actually went on uh I saw it on Reels, where where he said that his friend Ryan Grant, who is a former Packers wide receiver, who hadn't missed the game in four years, the Ravens sign him, and then a day later Crabtree got cut uh by the Raiders, and they wanted Crabtree, so they said, Oh, he failed his physical. Which is which was bullshit. So there you can't have a situation where you lie about the state uh of a player's health because that's how they make their money. Like that's ridiculous. And you you sign a guy, I think it was like a four-year,$30 million thing,$15 million guaranteed guys like, oh, sweet, I'm getting$15 million. Also, where did Ryan Grant go after the Packers? They could have hurt his career in in that move. And so it it's not that they need to do away with the legal tampering period, but you but you have to hold up to the deals that you make.

SPEAKER_04 10:29

Yeah. Or have the Raiders doctor come in and be like, ah, no. And they knew he was coming off this injury, too. That's why. What are we doing? And I I honestly I think it it's gonna pay off for you guys in the long run. If you can make the salary cap work, you're gonna have a pissed-off Crosby on a very upgraded defense, and you guys might be able to really make a push.

SPEAKER_01 11:06

I mean, uh let's talk about the Raiders offseason here. The Raiders went on a frenzy. They spent like a quarter of a billion dollars in the first couple days of free agency. We went out and we got Tyler Linderbaum, who's the best offensive lineman, loved that move for us. We have a rookie quarterback coming in. You got a center who's 25 years old. My dad was shocked. He was so young, 25, 26. I was like, yeah, we pretty much get him for his entire prime. Yep. He's gonna be an awesome player. And you got a guy that can, you know, uh call out uh protections and all that kind of thing for a rookie quarterback learning in the NFL. I love that. We signed uh Quiddy Pay, who's a pretty decent uh edge rusher. We got N'Kobe Dean from the Eagles and Quay Walker from the Packers. So we shored up our linebackers, which are some of the uh worst unit in the league last year. We trade for Teron Johnson, who's been a fantastic nickel corner on the Bills, and pretty much traded nothing for pennies. Yeah. Yeah. And also uh re-signed Eric Stokes, who's a pretty good corner for us, got Jalen Naylor from the Vikings, not a number one receiver by any means, but we need anybody in that receiver room right now that can go make plays. And he he flashes at times. Like he's he's a pretty good player. Uh so uh kind of rebuilt that defense and one fell swoop. Still got a couple holes here and there, but we're like two interior linemen and maybe a tackle. Maybe we get that in the draft, maybe we don't, away from really kind of putting together a team here. Obviously, we need a number one wide receiver. And I think 14, we were gonna really be able to shore up one of those holes. And that's what pissed me off about this trade so much is the Ravens went, ah, 14 was too much to give up, but you already gave it up. That's that's where you gotta get burnt because you completely just ruin your own integrity. Uh, you you make everybody paranoid about each other. And uh once you agree to a deal, you can't back up for nonsense. If he really would have failed a physical and not been able to play, that's one thing. But if that were true, you wouldn't have made the trade in the first place. They do the physicals before they put in the trade. Yeah. And I just I thought that was nonsense.

SPEAKER_04 13:31

It fucked everybody else up, too. I knew 100%.

SPEAKER_00 13:38

How about the Giants? They were gonna get Trey Hendrickson.

SPEAKER_01 13:41

Yeah. It was really a domino effect that affected a lot of the rest of the league because everyone was waiting to see what they're gonna do with Edge Rusher or the Colts, maybe. It was the Colts or the Giants, they were gonna get Trey Hendrickson, so they got fucked there. And the Ravens, being one of these, you know, Star Ward franchise in the NFL, just kind of got to do what they wanted there. But that's why I think you gotta punish them. You gotta you gotta show them a little bit that like you can't act this way in the NFL because I think everybody kind of relies on on the honesty of each other, even though you're trying to win, you're trying to get one over on each other. You you can make the argument the Raiders did get one over on the on the Ravens with how much they gave up, but I think Max Crosby is worth two first round picks. Yeah. To be perfectly honest. And I hope we can move him, but if we don't, I like that defense.

SPEAKER_04 14:27

I love that defense with that, with him staying.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

That's what I mean. So we'll see if he ends up staying. Maybe he's a trade deadline guy. He has a great start to the season, and then we get a sauce gardener deal, you know, two first at the trade deadline from a team that thinks they're almost there. That ended up not really working out for the Colts. But uh, I I just I was so excited to have the two first round picks next year and to have 14. Me and my dad were looking at mock drafts, who were gonna pick 14. That's what upsets me is that they they fucked over my dad. But um shout out you, Ron. I love you. Yeah, poor Ron. He's like, oh, I mean, are we gonna get this tackle from Georgia? Are we gonna pick the receiver from USC, Mikhailem? He's like, ah, I love that we have 14 and sad to see Crosby go. But I think we, you know, we're gonna do winners and losers later. I think a lot of people are saying the Raiders are a loser because we're embarrassed with the Max Crosby situation. But if we end up getting Max Crosby back with all these signings we we did, and that's how it's gotta be, like I think Raiders fans all love Max Crosby.

SPEAKER_04 15:34

And he's gonna be pissed. That's my favorite part of this, is he's gonna be angry. I think you guys play the Ravens this year, too. He's I'm already putting him down for five sacks.

SPEAKER_01 15:45

That's what I mean, dude. But I I like what we've done in free agency so far. Gotta go nail the draft. I wish we had 14, but if if we nail that second and third round, uh we got a couple nice compensatory picks, 11 picks. Uh maybe some of the young guys that didn't do a lot last year step up. I'm not saying we're gonna be awesome this upcoming year, but we're maybe a year or two away from turning this team around and and Tom Brady and his is, you know.

SPEAKER_04 16:15

There's a chance. I mean, Chiefs are gonna come back as strong. Uh Chargers yet to be seen, and then Broncos, I think, are are gonna have a tough time without Knicks that first month. Knicks is missing a month. I I think. I'm I'm just assuming.

SPEAKER_01 16:32

Why would he maybe not? It was an Achilles, right? No, no, he broke his ankle. Oh, okay. Then it'll be fine. He's fine. Yeah. But uh we'll see. I mean, it's a tough division, so kind of gotta load up, and that's what we did. Yeah. And we've always had such a joke of a defense, and I kind of like an offensive-minded head coach in Clint Kubia coming in and shoring up one of the most important positions on the field at center, and then getting a ton of defensive talent out there. This might be the most talented Raiders defense uh of my lifetime. Yeah. Maybe that one year Khalil Mac won defensive player of the year. It's a pretty good defense. But let me see. Just looking at the depth chart, yeah. Like Trey Tucker's a really good receiver. You know, Jalen Naylor, they're kind of, you know, speedsters. If we can get a true one, one of these guys can step up, but then just looking at this defense, it's fun to look at. Not gonna lie, I'm encouraging everybody else to go out there and look at this defense.

SPEAKER_04 17:34

Yeah, that's it's a legit unit now. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 17:38

It really might be. Yeah. Laul Laulu. However you pronounce that. He's made some plays last year. But yeah, we gotta shore up the rest of the offensive line now. That's that's the biggest thing outside of obviously we're getting Mendoza. We got the number one pick. We had the number one pick for a reason. Getting Mendoza, getting him in with the coaching staff and and really developing him, obviously a very important thing for this next season. And then building up the rest of the offensive line, uh shoring up our holes, seeing how we can work around the edges. There's always veterans who are kind of linger around. And if we can get team-friendly deals, especially because we just spent so much and just plug the holes with veterans, that's what the commanders did two years ago.

unknown 18:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

And they went all the way to the conference championship game with a rookie quarterback. I'm not saying we're gonna do that. I'm just saying crazier things have happened.

SPEAKER_04 18:31

Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 18:32

So uh yeah, we got a couple big splashes to talk about, unless you got anything else on the Raiders. No. Good luck to y'all. Thank you. I appreciate that. Y'all are back. I mean, the AFC, uh, we'll see. And it I think it's still gonna be wide open next year, like how we saw this year. Tyler to the Vikings will sit down, Max Brosmer. We got a new kid in town. Uh I think I think this is a pretty good move. Obviously, we've seen Kevin O'Connell uh work magic, work wonders with quarterbacks, like Daniel Jones, potentially, if he actually has a decent career. I'm still uh you know doubtful on that, but we'll talk about that later. Uh Sam Darnold going there, being a reclamation project guy. Kirk Cousins having the best years of his career in Minnesota. And now Kyler Murray, former former number one overall pick. I saw a two-time Pro Bowl, Pro Bowler Kyler Murray, and I was like, yeah, the Pro Bowl really doesn't mean anything. But a guy that's been up and down in his career. He's got one playoff appearance. He was pretty bad in it. But he's had flashes and excitement. He's really only put together half seasons where the Cardinals have been good, and he's been at the top of the league as far as quarterback play goes. I think he's he's got some bad habits, but maybe Kevin O'Connell's a guy to hammer him out. I also think it's a great team to go to to prove it, uh, maybe make some money on your next deal after getting cut by the Cardinals and JJ McCarthy. They're gonna say it's a competition. I can't imagine he's gonna start over Kyler Murray. I think this kind of is what we were talking about last season, where we're like, you gotta move on from this guy. It's really, really bad. And they didn't wait. No.

SPEAKER_04 20:17

No, and it's uh it's a guy that has something to prove, and he adds a mobility kind of dimension, and yeah, it's I like that dimension. Dimension to this offense. Yeah, yeah, I like that. He's got JJ and he's got uh Addison and he's got uh and he's got a solid offensive line, he's got Aaron Jones. Like this is this is a better team than what he had in in uh Arizona, and he's got something to prove.

SPEAKER_01 20:46

Yeah, potentially it could be a a really good offense again. Something they they struggled massively last year with. And if their defense can kind of stay frisky, like this is gonna be a tough out of a team, assuming Kyler Murray still has a ton left in the tank, and and you're getting him at a team-friendly deal just because he's getting paid so much from the Cardinals.

SPEAKER_04 21:10

Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, the is it the league minimum that they get to pay him?

SPEAKER_01 21:16

I don't know if he got the league minimum, but I don't think he got paid a ton. Let me check the specifics on that, because uh one-year contract, yes. What is the contract? They cardinals owe him 37 million, so he'll get paid the league minimum. Yeah, it's I mean, that's an awesome deal. Yeah. A guy that's gotta pro gotta prove his worth in the league, trying to get another big payday. Uh can he be good? And I think we'll learn a lot.

SPEAKER_04 21:47

All he needs to be is better than than McCarthy, which is much easier said.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Yeah, he's got injury issues. It's definitely a problem. There's a decent amount of interceptions. But you get him on the cheap, and he he's better than JJ McCarthy.

SPEAKER_04 22:08

It's the best destination for him, too. I think I I heard him going to the Steelers and and uh potentially going to Miami before they sign Malik Willis. Like I think this is the best landing spot for him. NFC North or AFC North is a is a tough spot to play in. Um and yeah, no, he's he's going to the NFC North, which is also another tough spot, but he's gonna have better opportunities and a and a better team around him.

SPEAKER_01 22:36

Yeah. No, him with uh Justin Jefferson is gonna be the best receiver he's ever played with. Uh DeAndre Hopkins was awesome in Arizona still, but uh that that's a a good player to pair him with. Um he doesn't really take a ton of deep shots. I'm curious to see how they run this offense just because I know they like to sling it deep, but JJ McCarthy wasn't gonna be the guy to do to do that. And one of the worst decisions teams make is hanging on to a guy that they uh you know spend a lot on, whether it's free agency or draft capital. And that they didn't wait around. They saw how bad it was this year, and they're like, we're gonna go get a guy, maybe he can develop into something eventually, but I think we're all doubtful, and we're we're maybe the lowest on JJ McCarthy out of all the podcasts, and I don't think anyone's particularly high on him.

SPEAKER_04 23:29

Yeah, which you're completely right about.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

Yeah, exactly. He doesn't have to play because he's clearly not ready to play right now. But I'm I'm excited to see. I think uh Kyler Murray will look cool in the Vikings uniforms. Uh they kept Brian Flores, so I think that'll be huge for uh their defense, and they haven't made a lot of moves in free agency, but this is a big one. Definitely. All right, we got some trades to talk about that have gone down. Uh trades where teams kept up their end of the bargain because that's what NFL teams do, Will. Uh Trent McDuffie to the Rams. Rams loading up. That division is an arms race at this point. And they gave up a third rounder in 2027 and a fifth and fifth and a sixth uh in this year's draft, and also the 29th overall pick. That was the big uh entier for the Chiefs. I don't think it's too much to give up for a guy who's who might be the best slot corner in the NFL, who's been an integral part of the Chiefs defense and Super Bowl teams in the past. And the Rams had secondary issues all last year, and now you got a guy that can uh really lock up the middle of the defense, maybe help you stop Jackson Smith and Jigba, the one team that really had your number last year, and load up for one more run because I think this might be their last shot at it, potentially. I mean, we're all worried about Stafford eventually succumbing to back injuries, and they have Devontae Adams still, obviously Puka at the peak of his powers, uh, before he goes down his Antonio Brown uh rabbit hole, if you will. And they go get a real guy. They also re-signed Cam Curl, who's a really good player for him, and they signed Jalen Watts also from the Chiefs, right? That sounds right. Yeah. So they went out and they were like, uh, the Chiefs, really good defense, really good secondary.

SPEAKER_00 25:28

Uh, we're gonna go take that.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

So why not? I mean, I I think uh let's talk about McDuffie, but really good moves from the Rams because that was their big weakness last year. Yeah, great move.

SPEAKER_04 25:41

And uh just make some like what it's like, it's at least six years straight of uh well, they had one first round pick, and that ended up being um uh Jared Verse. Jared Verse. Yeah, who which is a great addition. They have 13 this year. They didn't have to give up that pick. I think they're gonna get that really athletic tight end from Oregon too. Um to that that that three tight end set that they like to run.

SPEAKER_01 26:08

I don't know. I I think they could use that pick better. They probably could. I heard somebody talk about his tape and going, oh, I'm excited to watch this, and going, eh.

SPEAKER_04 26:18

So he's big and fast is strong. But yeah, I I mean I guess I could see it elsewhere. But yeah, this is great moves for him. They they're obviously ready to load up and make another really long run. So this is the best way to do it.

SPEAKER_01 26:33

I hope whoever they pick at 13 is exactly who the Ravens want at 14. That would be great.

SPEAKER_03 26:41

Yeah, fuck them.

SPEAKER_01 26:42

Fuck them. But yeah, no, this is an awesome move uh for the Rams, and that team is super loaded. So if they stay healthy, like there's no reason that they shouldn't be right up there with the Super Bowl favorites. And we know they were in the real Super Bowl uh last year when they lost to the Seahawks. You could argue both those Seahawks games were the real Super Bowl. I think we did, so yeah. Yeah, I mean, look at that secondary. It looks a hell of a lot better. They obviously have the pass rush and the front seven, landman offense loaded, like that team's ready to rock and roll. You know who I think they could pick if they go offense? If Mikhail Lemon's there, speedster from USC, but I'm saying they already have the tight end room. But if they added Mikai Lemon to Puka Nakua and Devontae Adams, they got the backfield thing, like that might be like a Madden like offense where it's just like, who do you who do you got? It's impossible.

SPEAKER_04 27:38

Lemon kind of scares me. Did you see that that tape of him like looking around and sensual is the wrong word, but he was uh he was weird in his interview.

SPEAKER_01 27:52

I like him obviously because he he went to my my childhood team, the Trojans, but uh he's a good player. I think I think he I I mean I kind of was interested in him at uh 14. I think he would wouldn't make sense with Trey Tucker and Jalen Naylor, but uh I don't know. I just think uh I just think it would be it's a fun idea for an offense. Yeah. I'll just go right here. Monroe Freeling, that's who my dad wanted, the tackle from Georgia. That's who the this mock draft has him taking. And yeah, why not? Go get best player available because you can't because your team's so loaded. Yeah, this one has Caleb Downs falling all the way to 12. If they get Caleb Downs, too. Yeah, I know. There's some good tackles, they'll probably be available. There's a ton of edge uh early on here. Maybe you go if you love Ty Simpson, you go draft your Matt Stafford replacement. I think this trade was awesome for him because you give up 29, you still got 13. They fleeced the Falcons, as it turns out, because James Pierce. Did we talk about that? Was that pre us?

SPEAKER_04 29:03

I don't think we really did. A little bit. We didn't have all the information that we do now.

SPEAKER_01 29:08

The greatest win of a trade of all time. 13th pick for a guy who played one year in the NFL, probably won't play anymore.

SPEAKER_04 29:16

That was crazy. He was trying to kill his girlfriend and yeah, ran from the cops, fought the cops.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

Yeah, he's going to wheel jail for a long time.

SPEAKER_04 29:25

He was such a good player, too.

SPEAKER_01 29:27

What could have been? Yeah, no. I mean, he's obviously a psycho, but yeah, good on the Rams for loading up. And yeah, I I mean, I'm I'm all down on the Rams. Like, I uh not down on the Rams, sorry. I'm down with the Rams. Like, um we we were very scared of the Matt Stafford back thing, and maybe this year we'll go the other way where we don't think it's a problem, and then it ends up being a problem. But I don't care how many offseason stories I hear about red light therapy, it's sleeping in a special uh truck outside of training camp. Matt Stafford is a dog and he's probably playing all 16 or 17, whatever it is. Um, all right. Uh we had David Montgomery going to the Texans. Very, very sad uh because Sonic and Hedgehog or Knuckles. Yeah, Sonic and Sonic and Hedgehog. It's late here. Sonic and Knuckles going uh away. Um I thought this was a weird move from the Texans, honestly, because the Texans also traded some linemen and they keep getting rid of linemen, and then they're trying to build a running game, potentially David Montgomery, who I still think has a lot left in the tank, and he can be a pretty good running back, but they have Woody Marks there already. And they only gave up uh what a fourth and a seventh. So not a ton, but that offensive line, go look at it. Anyone out there, go look at it. You don't know any of those guys. Maybe Jarrett Patterson, like it's kind of a scary situation for a team with a quarterback who seems to be falling apart and uh you you can't really protect him. Can you go rebuild this offensive line on the fly in the rest of the offseason? Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 31:12

The the Packers offensive tackle is still available. Um, who's serviceable? He's a he's he's a decent player, but you're gonna have to overpay for him. But yeah, you send out Titus Howard to the Browns in another trade, and then you trade uh uh Juice Scruggs in that Montgomery trade. And yeah, that this is a it's gonna be a very hard task to uh to get an offensive line.

SPEAKER_01 31:39

They signed Braden Smith. Smith? Smith. Yeah, they got a Smith. I don't know. I uh Nevermind, I'm in. No, I oh that's also the name of Purdue's white point guard that's super nasty, speaking of March Madness. Same guy. No, that would be awesome. Uh from the Colts. Okay. 29-year-old, I guess he's just uh a serviceable NFL tackle. I'm not seeing tackle? Quite sure. He started 105 at 107 games in eight years.

SPEAKER_03 32:14

What side does he I don't think he's a right tackle?

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Okay. But a guy, I mean, that's a real NFL lineman. I guess that's good on them, but I don't know. I don't know what they're doing. Their defense is probably still gonna be awesome, but they got Reed Blankenship. I thought that was a pretty funny move.

SPEAKER_04 32:35

Smith hasn't played more than 13 games in any of his last three seasons.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

I mean, that's perfect for the Texans. That's what they need. A guy who's semi-available. Depends on which 13 games he plays, I guess.

SPEAKER_02 32:51

Yeah, that's true, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:54

But I I just I thought that was a weird move. Like you're not a running back away, and also like he's a good running back, but you're just taking away touches from Woody Marks. And I guess that's probably a good thing because Woody Marks gets hurt every third play, but yeah. I mean, he's just a rookie. But all right. Uh who else we got? DJ Moore to the Bills. Bills gave up a second and got a fifth back. I kind of love this for the Bills. You you were all in on their Josh Palmer signing last year. I told you that was gonna be a zero, and I feel like I was right on it.

SPEAKER_04 33:32

It wasn't a zero, it was like a one.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

It was a two. It was a two. It's my bad. You're right. But um, and they they went out and signed Bradley Chubb as well, but I love the DJ Moore pick. He didn't really have a spot in Chicago. Kind of made sense that he was gonna move. Figured this would be the offseason that they got rid of him. They get a second-round pick for him this season. So I think that's an awesome move for the Bears as well. But you're the Bills, you know the AFC's wide open. You probably should have been in the Super Bowl this past year. You probably were the best team in the AFC. I think they are better than the Pats. I think they're better than the Broncos. They don't turn the ball over five times. They're beating the Pats in the championship game, and they're in the Super Bowl, they have a chance. I don't think anyone's beaten the Seahawks this past year, but if anyone could do it, it's Josh Allen. You gotta keep going for it when you got Josh Allen in your prime, right?

SPEAKER_04 34:28

Yeah, for sure. I think it's one of those rare trades where both teams won. 100%. Yeah, like you said, the Bears didn't really have a place for him. Um, they're paying him a little bit too much, they're ready to move on with their rookies or younger guys with Adunzay and uh Burden. And uh yeah, he's gonna be a great fit in Buffalo. A real number one. He's better than Brandon Cooks.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

That's a very marching out in that Brandon Cooks is making plays. He caught that ball. I stand by it. But uh yeah, no, Khalil Shakir is a slot guy, he's a number two. You don't want him to be your lead receiver. Josh Palmer, being your third receiver, makes a lot more sense. And then go figure out what else you have. I think Shavers is an NFL receiver, so you know he'll be on the roster. Keon Coleman, do you trade him for a seventh? Do you cut him? I think that's on the table at this point. You draft him the first round, do you want him to work? I don't think anyone there likes him, especially now that you've moved on uh with a different regime, even though the GM's still there, it's kind of a weird situation. But yeah, go load up because it's Josh Allen's prime and the AFC feels wide open. DJ Moore's a guy who yeah, only had 682 yards last year. Sorry, Nan started playing so loud in my ears. Like, what? Um but he's had some really good seasons. Looking it up. Yeah, 1,100 yards three times with the Panthers, and then he had a 1,364 yard season with the Bears his first year there. So it's a guy that can go get you 1,200 yards. Yeah. Probably not more, but it's kind of what you need in that offense.

SPEAKER_03 36:10

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 36:11

For sure. All right, we have one more, and kind of from the Max Crosby fallout, but the Cowboys went, all right, we're not getting Max Crosby. They only offered a first and second, and they go get Rashawn Gary from the Packers for a fourth round pick. I thought that was a great trade foil, honestly. He's expensive. He is, but they got him for cheat. I mean, they have to pay him a lot, but they need somebody to rush a backer. They need somebody to uh be a defender with them because it looks like they're paying George Pickens 27 million dollars this season. So if they have so much money tied up in that quarterback receiver combo, they bring back Javante Williams. They gotta have somebody on the defense, and they only gave up a fourth four.

SPEAKER_04 36:56

Yeah, he's got base salaries of 18 and 21, but none of that money's guaranteed. And yeah, they're gonna pair him with Kenny Clark again, and then they've got um uh what's the other interior lineman that they just traded for the Jets with.

SPEAKER_01 37:13

Oh, uh not Leonard Williams. No. Quinan? Yes, Quinnen.

SPEAKER_04 37:18

Yeah, Quinnen Williams. So they'll they'll still put together a a really nice defensive line and see if they have anything.

SPEAKER_01 37:26

I mean the rest of that defense kind of questionable, but uh they uh they have to rebuild it in some way. They have to figure out what they're doing. At linebacker or in that secondary. Because they paid Duron Bland a lot of money after that one really good year. Yeah, they did. But they're kind of just, yeah, they're just building at the skill positions, I guess. You know, edge rusher, receiver, quarterback, that's where they spend all their money. Because Jerry Jones is over the hill. But I like the move overall. Yeah. They'll have to do some cap shenanigans. Also, they put Brandon Aubrey, their kicker, on a second round uh tender, meaning that other teams can sign them to an offer sheet. And then they get to match it? They do get to match it. I would just throw them like 11 million if I was a struggling team. Yeah. 12 million a year for two years. Are they gonna match that? I doubt it with how much they have tied up. And then you go get a really good kicker because you got cap space. Yeah. Did you see the Raiders? This is the side note. They got rid of Carlson and they went and signed Matt Gay. He's like a fine kicker, but like I thought that was a weird move. Carlson's been really good with us. He didn't have a great last season, but I don't really want Matt Gay. Go get me a gay Raiders jersey. Which one? No. Yeah, exactly. Good one. Great joke. Uh yeah, I guess he where's his uh kicking stats. I mean, you know, se 17 to 23 last year, 31 of 37 the year before, 33 of 41, he's fine, but I don't he's not like a uh big leg kicker. Uh whatever. Small thing, but I wasn't like the biggest fan of that. See if the MM dyed hair in this picture. That's why they got him. Yeah. Now that must have been just a bad pick. I don't know why. But anyway. Yeah, those are the those are some of the big trades. Uh going around. Oh, uh, this was this one's pretty big. Michael Pittman getting traded from the Colts to the Steelers. We'll talk about the Colts later, but I thought it was a weird move on the Colts' part to kind of pay Alec Pierce and trade Michael Pittman. Steelers also don't feel like he fits in with DK Metcalf that well, but who's throwing him the ball?

SPEAKER_03 40:11

Yeah. I don't know. Right?

SPEAKER_04 40:14

Is that a weird move or is it the question is is Pierce worth that contract? And I I don't really think he is. He's a big play guy. He's never had what was it? He's his average is like three catches a game, and he's never really had more than 50 catches, or he's barely eclipsed the thousand-yard mark. So he's a big play machine. We'll all we'll we'll gotta save the pierce stuff. Yeah, no, I that's why I just think it was weird that you you get rid of Pittman, who's the the mid-range, the everything over the middle type of guy. And it's a great addition for the Steelers because DK doesn't play that role very well. Um, so yeah, you got Pittman to go get all the intermediate stuff.

SPEAKER_01 41:01

Uh paid him a lot of money. They get a lot of money tired of win receivers for a team with no quarterback.

SPEAKER_03 41:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:09

I guess Aaron Rodgers might come back, but is that great at this point? TJ Huzmanzada said Michael Pittman is gonna be a leader for the Steelers. Oh. Okay. My bad. I didn't know. Never mind. Yeah, I'll take all of it back. But they give up for Pittman. Do we know four? That doesn't sound right. It's a late round pick swap. Oh, yeah. They gave up nothing. Yeah, they got Pittman in a seventh for sixth, so gave him and then signed him for 20 million. How do you get a guy that's worth$20 million a year for a sixth round pick? Am I crazy? Or is that weird? I don't think he's really worth that much, but whatever. Maybe the caps just went up so much. I'd I that's like a$15 million. I still think that's a lot for a team with no quarterback, but whatever. Uh we had that trade. We had one of the better trades of the offseason, I think, with the Bears getting Garrett Bradbury after their center retired at a very young age from the Patriots. They were like, all right, lost the center, got a center. It's like uh, you know, give a penny, take a penny.

SPEAKER_04 42:20

Mm-hmm. Yeah, that was a really good move by them. They still need a little bit, a little bit of help on that offensive line, but a lot less now.

SPEAKER_01 42:30

Yeah. And then finally, uh the Raiders traded Geno Smith, paying most of his contract, so the Jets barely have to pay him. Back to the Jets. Mike, our good friend Mike Duane goes, where's IK Ikampala or whatever the guy's name that punched him? EK. Wasn't it over like 500 bucks or something? It was over a plane ticket, yeah. Because he agreed he agreed to do his camp and then he no-showed and big dogged him in the locker room, and he was like, We'll pay for the ticket. He's like, I'm not paying for that. And he punched him and then never played the never played in the NFL again. And then NM Pale. NM Pale? I don't know, I don't know how to pronounce that. EK NMK. Sure. I don't know how to pronounce that, but I don't think he ever played in the NFL again. After that, yep. So yeah. And then Gina Smith sent to NFL Siberia for a while. So pretty bad move for both of them. Pay the 500 bucks if you make millions of dollars, right? Yeah. But I I heard a Jets fan who I love, listen to his podcast forever, saying everybody's always gonna clown the Jets and gonna laugh about this. And he kind of made a point about the Raiders, so I just wanna uh give him, you know, credit back for his shitty team. Cause but he was like, This is a smart move by the Jets. You're not gonna be good this year. You don't want to be good this year. You have all this draft capital. Over the next couple seasons. Go get a serviceable quarterback and don't be embarrassing. I was like, that's uh actually pretty smart.

SPEAKER_04 44:07

It's gonna be weird seeing him back in a Jets uniform. Yeah. Very full circle, but I heard someone comparing it to like the the girl that uh you always had a a pact with that you guys would marry after after age 35. And yeah, that feels that feels fitting here. But yeah, he uh he left this he left the Seahawks and and they win the Super Bowl. He got the Raiders uh Fernando Mendoza, and he's gonna get the Jets uh Arch Banning or whoever the Norris Sellers or whoever comes out on top.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

Yeah, I like that. All right, let's talk about uh some of the big free agency acquisitions.

SPEAKER_04 44:48

I got one more trade we didn't mention that I think is kind of note uh notable is the uh the uh the Cowboys traded uh Osa Digizua to the Niners for a third rounder. And I think this was a really, really good trade for the Niners because he's kind of the odd man out of the position with Quendon Williams and Kenny Clark taking the defensive tackle spots. And uh he's a guy that has 112 quarterback pressures since since the start of 2024, just third most at that position. Like he's a really talented player. Uh they get to take away for a third rounder and and help rebuild that defensive line and that defense that was so banged up last year. So I think that was a great move by the Niners, and I think it's it's not gonna be talked about enough.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

Yeah, probably. Just in all the uh whirlwind happening this week. Good move for the Cowboys to get some capital back for them and yeah, add some depth to that 49ers move. So it feels like a good good trade for both teams. So Cowboys essentially, you know, traded up to the third round. Got Rashawn Gary. Yeah. Yeah. Not a bad, not a bad situation. But yeah, I like that. Let's talk about some of these big free agency acquisitions. Jalen Phillips, who the Eagles traded for last season. Oh, some thought that he's gonna get a big giant contract with the Eagles. He got a big giant contract with the Panthers. Panthers paid him a lot of money for a guy who's been as banged up as he has been. Four years 120 million, uh 80 million in guarantees. But this is a team that's just been dog water on defense for a long time, and they go get a guy that if he's healthy, I mean, he's he's a really good player.

SPEAKER_04 46:35

They they hung in that game with the Rams. I don't think we we can forget that. They uh yeah, they they pushed him to the end of that game.

SPEAKER_01 46:45

It was a dumb game, but yeah, they did it twice. It was a dumb game. They beat him once.

SPEAKER_04 46:49

Yeah, yeah, they did. They beat him once, and and yeah, now they they go add a couple guys in Devin Lloyd and Jalen Phillips that are really gonna beef up that defense.

SPEAKER_01 47:00

Yeah, I was shocked. I've been following like the the real news way too much. I was like, Devin Lloyd was a free agent? God damn. It had to be sad to see him go. So yeah, I think wish we re-signed him. He's so fast, and and yeah, yeah, that's gonna be a tough loss. Ton of picks for y'all last year. And yeah, both according to this list, top 17 free agents. You got the top five. Like, pretty good for the Panthers. You got all this money to spend. Uh, might as well go fill some holes on your defense. And I I thought that was pretty big. We'll probably talk about them later in uh winners and losers, but uh Super Bowl winner Kenny Pickett. Yeah, Super Bowl champion. Dude, Braden Smith. I guess we didn't put respect on his name. He's seventh on this list.

SPEAKER_04 47:48

Really? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 47:49

Yeah, it's I mean, it says he's 30 with injury concerns over the last three years, so not great, but uh the commanders went out and signed a ton of guys, but they got a Dafe Owe, uh, the edge rusher traded to the Chargers last year um from the Ravens, and they spent a ton of money on him. Yeah, what, four years, a hundred million dollars. But they they need edge rushers over there in Washington, so it made a lot of sense to me.

SPEAKER_04 48:23

They also had Rashad White and uh Chiggaquanquo um on their offense, re-signed Laramie Tunsell, um, a couple more offensive linemen, but yeah, they're they're they're beefing up on the uh in the trenches and yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:40

I mean they're gonna be pretty good. Until you go build a contending team. I mean, it all hinges on Jaden Daniels' health, but you could say that about any team, right? Mm-hmm. When you have one year, you go to the NFC championship game, another year your quarterback's not healthy. I mean, you can't call him an injury-real guy yet, totally.

SPEAKER_03 49:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

Uh yeah, oh Titans. Mason, yeah, they're they're they're looking pretty good. The Titans spend a lot of money. All these teams with all this cap space, especially with the cap spike in like$20 million. Like they got John Franklin Myers, they got Elante Taylor, who I've loved with the New Orleans. He's always popped off the screen, even though the Saints have been really bad. But yeah, they're they're spending money.

SPEAKER_04 49:25

John Franklin Myers. Yeah. I said that uh Jermaine Johnson in that trade. And yeah, no, that I I like the signings.

SPEAKER_01 49:36

Yeah. I mean, you got a new coach in there, Robert Sala, who's, you know, trying to make you a defensive-minded team. And you went out and got him some gas. Especially like Jermaine Johnson, a guy you had in in New York when he was there. They went and paid Wandale Robinson a ton of money. It's only two years guaranteed. And Wandale Robinson's like a good receiver, but maybe this is just the cap going up and I'm reading these contracts wrong. But and Bellinger, too. He's a giant, right?

SPEAKER_03 50:09

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 50:10

Yeah. Yeah, when guys they know. When you can get Giants skill position guys, you gotta go do it. I mean, this is a team that just has so many holes. They were off the last year.

SPEAKER_03 50:21

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 50:22

Somehow the Raiders still got the one pick. Shout out by guys. Forget Mendoza, but yeah, I mean, they they were they're trying to rebuild this team. That's what you do. Look, look at the path, right? Yeah. Young quarterback, second year, spent a ton of money in free agency. A lot of people say it doesn't work. And maybe they weren't the best team they've seen. They kind of had a lucky run there, but they did it. So I think you gotta give Cam Ward a defense that can, you know, get off the field, and then you'll give them a weapon on offense. Hopefully, re can rebuild your offensive line and move the ball and just be a completely different team next year. Yeah. Yeah, they got Cordale Flot, the corner. Like they used to have a ton of money.

SPEAKER_03 51:07

Yeah, they did.

SPEAKER_01 51:08

Who is Flot?

SPEAKER_04 51:09

Where is he from?

SPEAKER_01 51:11

Cordale Flot. He is from the Giants?

SPEAKER_03 51:20

Oh, come on, guys.

SPEAKER_01 51:24

Uh yeah. Yeah, I was right. Branch out. I know, right? They're just stealing giants left and right. If the giants are letting them walk, that's a sign. Yeah. Wait. Oh, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought he was a giant. The giants are letting them walk. I mean, I guess I just couldn't get them to resign or whatever, but yeah. Went out and got all their giants, got a saint, you know? Really rebuilding this team, a jet? Like. And then we're laughing. Don't forget about Ms. Trubisky. Yeah, exactly. No, it's true back up. These are real guys. These are good players. Yeah. Go pick them up off the scrap heap with their former teams.

SPEAKER_04 52:13

Tommy Townsend?

SPEAKER_01 52:14

Ooh. Ooh. All right. Let's uh who else we got here? Uh yeah, said Quay Walker to the Raiders. I like that move. I think some people thought we overpaid him, but whatever. We got to put it on.

SPEAKER_04 52:28

Probably, but you kind of have to overpay when you're a bad team. It's what my Jags had to do. Like, remember when we signed Christian Kirk to over 100 mil? Yeah. He was not worth that. And you just you gotta pay guys to bring him in. And hope they can play well.

SPEAKER_01 52:44

Historically bad teams with a ton of cap space. Like, why not? Uh Mike Evans went to the 49ers, a guy that I think a lot of us thought was gonna stay in Tampa Bay his whole life, but I think that was a nice move from the 49ers. He dealt with injuries last year and he didn't get to the 8,000 yards. But he did that 11 straight seasons. And I think he he's because he's never been a speed guy, I think he can definitely uh play some good football. And it doesn't look like they're resounding Juwan Jennings.

SPEAKER_04 53:12

They get uh Drake Greenlaw back on a team-friendly deal, too. I like the moves the Niners did.

SPEAKER_01 53:18

Yeah, I'll definitely get in them in winners and losers, I bet. This is a team that, you know, I don't think is was as bad as their playoff exit showed that they were. And they just really gotta fill in around the edges. I think Ricky Pearsall, if he can stay on the field, he's awesome when he plays. So Mike, Mike Evans is a great guy to pair with him. Brock Purdy, a big body receiver to, you know, go on some out routes, go balls, that kind of thing. If that hamstring couldn't hold together, they could stay healthy, they can definitely, they can move away from the facility that's poisoning their players' ACLs and Achilles, but yeah. Uh Reek Woolen went to the Eagles, paid him a decent amount of money. He's a guy who's just an up and down player in his career, uh, had more taunting penalties than any other team by himself last year, had the huge one in the NFC Championship game. He's a Super Bowl winner, and he's 27, still probably got a lot of good football. And if he's playing well, you could say they had the best cornerback room in the NFL.

SPEAKER_04 54:31

Yeah, all the all the talent in the world. He's just a little bit more between the years.

SPEAKER_01 54:36

He's huge and he's fast and he picks the ball off. And yeah, he's kind of a knucklehead, but oh, how'd how'd we bury the lead? Malik Willis going to the Dolphins. Yeah. How much money are they spending on quarterbacks? Way too much. I but here's my thing. I said this to you before we started the show. Like somebody had I don't think the Dolphins are gonna be very good. I don't think they think they're gonna be very good. They're in a total blowed-up rebuild situation. Somebody's gotta go play quarterback and not be embarrassing. And I think they think Malik Willis can do that, and I think there's some tape that suggests that he can.

SPEAKER_04 55:14

And this is, I mean, you it's two guys, the uh the the coach now and the um the GM both got to watch uh Willis in practice, and they know what they're getting. I know we don't know much about what they're getting because we just haven't seen him play all that much, but I think it's a it's a decent addition.

SPEAKER_01 55:38

He can move. He can move. And he had some really good plays when he was in there. Like and he w won games with the Packers. So maybe the idea is, you know, he kind of steadies the ship at quarterback this next season. You really rebuild the team, and then he he's a good quarterback on a cheap deal uh the season after that, and you can kind of make some waves potentially.

SPEAKER_04 56:05

Yep, they they gotta rebuild that defense. They traded Mickey and Fitzpatrick and and Bradley Chubb is now gone. Um so yeah, they've got they've got a lot of steps to actually make this a competent team, but yeah. Yeah. They're they're a year away from being a year away.

SPEAKER_01 56:22

No, yeah. Uh Super Bowl MVP, Kenneth Walker, goes to the Chiefs. Uh everybody was saying this was gonna happen. He's only 25. Seahawks just didn't have enough money to pay him. He got a pretty big payday from the Chiefs, and they let Pacheco go. They're done running Kareem Hunt's old ass out there. Good. And yeah, exactly. I don't want to see any more Kareem Hunt plunges into the line for two yards. They can't. He's a very talented running back who dealt with a lot of injuries early on in his career, but was super healthy last year. Obviously, won Super Bowl MVP. I think this is awesome for the Chiefs as maybe they try to change up what their offense looks like and not rely on Patrick Mahomes so much.

SPEAKER_04 57:04

Yeah. Yeah, they gotta they gotta rebuild the offensive line a little bit more. Um, I I think it's a great addition.

SPEAKER_01 57:12

And it gives Mahomes another weapon out of the backfield. They finally got rid of that albatross and Juwan Taylor. Good riddance. Good box. He's not gonna play anymore in the NFL, right? Someone will sign up. They he he can play a little bit, but they're they're bleeding.

SPEAKER_04 57:31

Or he can jump early. That is true.

SPEAKER_01 57:34

They're they're bleeding talent, though.

unknown 57:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:37

All the money they got uh in their their top players. So I think that's uh that's a really good signing. Uh the Giants made some uh moves. They went and got Isaiah Likely from the Ravens, and they got uh Tremaine Edmonds from the Bears. Uh good linebacker, good tight end, another, another bad team. You know, you just gotta go fill these spots, pay these guys some money. And I I like those moves for the Giants.

SPEAKER_04 58:05

They got um I gotta find his they got the uh the fullback too, Patrick Ricard. Oh, yeah. From the Ravens. So they're gonna have a fun little backfield with with Ricard leading the way for uh Scataboo.

SPEAKER_01 58:20

Well, there's some thought that they might go get Jeremiah Love. Oh, really? I heard that as a rumor. Giants fans don't want it. Obviously, Scatabo's awesome, broke his leg, but uh it it might just be one of those best player-available generational running back situations we saw him do with Saquon.

SPEAKER_04 58:37

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 58:39

I think they have so many other holes they can fell. Oh, I agree. I don't love it. Um uh we had some skill more skilled position players. Dobbs, Romeo Dobbs goes to the Patriots. Mm-hmm. I felt like they paid him a lot of money. Four years,$80 million. How much of that was guaranteed? That feels like a two-year guaranteed situation. I'm not seeing it. I probably$40,$50 million guaranteed. But he's a good, he's a good player. We had some drop issues last year. And yes, Stefan Diggs isn't going back there. I I think he can fit into that offense. Kayshawn Booty might step up as like their outside receiver. Dodge can play outside, but he'll move around. And uh they still believe in Kyle Williams. I know Mike was telling me about that, or Pat's fan friend. Uh, they believe in Kyle Williams. Pop Douglas stepping up, making plays last year. Kayshawn Booty's still a young guy. Like now they just have a good young receiving core. Don't have to rely on digs. Yeah. Um the Saints signed your guy, Travis Etienne. I was shocked to see him go, but uh pretty good pickup for the Saints, who seem to be moving on from the Alvin Kamara days. Uh and he's a really good running back. And they're a team that I don't think expects to be awesome this year, but they also might have the best quarterback in the division. If Shuck really continues from his rookie year's success and go get him running back.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:17

Yeah. Yeah, it was it was just more than I think we could pay him. Um, but he's a great guy, and yeah. Trevor had a really emotional post about him. But yeah, he's he's returning back home. I think he's a New Orleans guy. So he's going back uh going back for the homestead.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:37

Yeah. Uh Bengals picking up some defensive players they needed. Boye Maffe from the Seahawks and Brian Cook, the safety from the Chiefs. Two pretty good players. So I mean might help with the Trey Hendrickson uh departure.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:57

You didn't say Jonathan Allen either. No. He's he's on the he's on the older side now, but yeah. Solid uh solid defensive lineman.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:08

Yeah. No, a hundred percent. Uh now I'm just reading guys off here. Uh Reed Blankenship to the Texans. Still don't know what the Texans are doing, but yeah, I mean he's a good player.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:20

Yeah, I got no clue what the Texans. Yeah. Good. Good.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:26

We don't want to see them. Um I'm looking around. Rico Dowdle to the Steelers. Kobe Bryant to the Bears, the safety, Super Bowl champion. Yeah, the Seahawks bleeding a lot of town. And that's always what happens to Super Bowl teams, you know?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:45

Yeah. Yeah, they they re-signed Shahid, but they kind of just had to bleed some guys.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:52

Yeah. Oh, I didn't see this. Jamel Dean to the Steelers. Kevin Bayard, the safety to the Patriots. It's a good sign. Yeah, a lot of musical chairs happening over here. Set Bradley Chubb to the to the Bills. Who else we got here? Oh, Tua to the Falcons. Yeah, love it. Apparently it's gonna be a real quarterback competition. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:18

Okay. I've been seeing the I've been seeing the memes. Because they're both too lefties. They're both lefties, but they're both so injury prone.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:27

Uh-huh. Someone's gotta play while the other ones are. Yeah. That's seems to be a bad start for Stefansky down in Atlanta. I still I believe he can make it work. Yeah, maybe. Who else we got here?

SPEAKER_04 1:02:44

They franchise tag tagged Kyle Pitts, too, so you know they're ready. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:51

Uh I feel like with we hit the the big names.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:54

I think so too.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:55

On the list, yeah. Anybody that we missed? Anybody they want to bring up? I like Rashad White to the commander. I think Rashad White's a pretty good running back. He's a great receiver out of the backfield. So I think they're gonna go love.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:11

I I'm pretty confident that they're gonna go with with uh Love if he's available.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:16

I I think Love's gonna go so high, though. What's the draft order? What's the let's do a little Jeremia Love internal? He's not gonna go to the Cardinals. He's not gonna go to the Raiders are picking the Giants one. You don't think the Jets are picking them at two, right? Brees Hall's still there? No. Yeah, no. Probably not. I could see him going to the Cardinals. I'm gonna be honest. Tennessee? I Tennessee makes a lot of sense. Tony Pollard, you're gonna run that back out as your number one. That hasn't worked. I think Giants are a big mystery team. Browns doesn't feel like they need him. Jetkins is a really good back. I could see him going three, four, five, or seven. Yeah. Cardinals, titans, giants, they're commanders. Cardinals aren't gonna do it. There's no way he falls out of the top ten, right? Do the Bengals trade up from ten? To get him? Yeah, I think that would be stupid, but they do a lot of stupid things. They do do a lot of stupid things. That's I'm just I don't know. Uh Cowboys trade up from 12. My Jags. You're too far down. You'd have to give up so much for running back. Where are you at? We gave up so much for quarterslash wide receiver. No, you already gave up your first round pick. I know. So yeah, you can't even you couldn't even make that work. Um yeah, no, I don't know. I I could see him going to any of those teams. Who's your favorite? You like the commanders at seven? Yeah. I think he might go before them. They might trade up.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:55

But I don't I don't want to see him in Tennessee, but that's probably also the next best fit.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:01

Tennessee makes a lot of sense. But uh, all right. Winners and losers will. Do I start with the losers? We love to hate on this podcast. Sure. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:14

Alright. Can I kick it off with my own team? Sure. I think we're one of the biggest losers in this offseason. Losing, um losing Etienne is gonna be huge for our run offense. And it means we're gonna move forward with the likes of Chris Rodriguez, DJ Dallas, and uh and uh DJ Dallas is gonna be uh yeah, I know. We re-signed him. Um Tootin. Tootin. Tootin's gonna be our starter. We'll see how it goes. It's gonna be it's gonna be tough. But the another big addition is Devin Lloyd on the other side. I I think I think we really needed him there. Um he's been a huge playmaker. We we re-signed Dennis Gardick. To maybe fill his spot, but we're we're kind of aging in that linebacker room. And and yeah, without without Lloyd, we don't really have an athletic playmaker that's that's just a spark plug. He really is. He's just he's just the guy to go get go pick up tackles and and make a big play when we need it. So yeah. No, they CBS here has us at a D plus for free agency. I'd I'd venture it'd be lower than that. I think uh D minus? I think we're in the D minus, maybe F category here. Uh with our yeah, it shows our key addition is Chris Rodriguez. So that's tough. Don't feel great about that.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:46

I wouldn't either. Uh your GM comes from the Rams school. I know he said something like, Oh, we're trying to get the competitory picks. That's for 2027. So when your team's that good and and feels like that close and you just kind of punt on an offseason, do you think you're good enough as is to make it back with losing your your best running back, your best linebacker? I I think that's gonna be tough, but in this division. I feel like loading up would make sense, though.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:21

I think so too. That's why I didn't like avoid l uh what do you what do you think about the potential to trade Brian Thomas Jr.?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:29

That would be I do not want to see him go. No, I think that would be silly. We know Brian Thomas Jr. to the Raiders, potentially. Might have some podcast beef.

SPEAKER_04 1:07:42

We get your first rounder next year and shoot some other picks.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:47

No, well, we're winning the Super Bowl, so you can have our first rounder. Um I don't know. I I've I've seen some buzz. I hope you don't trade them. I think that'd be silly.

SPEAKER_04 1:08:00

Let's talk about the other teams in my division because I think they're there's a couple losers here. I don't I don't think I can group the Titans in. I think they made just enough moves. They're a bad team. They're just they're just signing bodies and and they're just trying to build out a roster. Yeah. Yeah, guys that'll play. Let's talk about the Colts. Yeah, I think. I think they're the losers. This is my number one loser, Will. Yeah, they they re-signed Alec Pierce, who really hasn't done a whole lot of anything uh to a four-year,$114 million contract to be their number one. 60 mil is fully guaranteed. Do here's the big thing. Do you see him in two years? Do you I I I just see something along the lines coming out that oh, Colts decide to move on from Alec Pierce and release the contracts and eat whatever's left of the of the of the salary in the contract that they paid him.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:54

Well, as opposed to him singing he's been amazing. Anytime you can sign a guy for almost$30 million a year that had a thousand and three yards last year in his career year, you gotta do it. Yeah. You gotta do it. I I mean, I know he led the league in receiving yards per reception.

unknown 1:09:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:18

Back-to-back years. Cool. He's in 47 receptions. Yeah, 47 and 37. Like he's a jump ball down the field weapon who's a secondary receiver at best. You traded your number one receiver. What's the idea that he comes in and oh, we'll just well, if he averages 21 a catch, we'll just give him 100 catches. He'll have he'll break Megashawn's record. Like, I just don't think that's the kind of guy he is. Like his first two years, he averaged 14, you know, and 16. I just think it's been a product of the offense that he's been in. And yeah, he's a he's a guy that can go get you 50 catches for a thousand yards. I think that's a a valuable guy to have around. I think they wildly overpaid him. Who? Because I I heard some teams are in the mix, but who was paying him this much? Who are you competing against?

SPEAKER_04 1:10:06

I heard the Patriots are a little interested in it.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:08

Were they gonna pay him this much? No. Four years, 100 million makes a lot more sense. I know it doesn't sound like a ton more, but and you know, we're just throwing numbers out there, but I don't know. I thought that was a ridiculous overpay. Because it says 84 million impossible guarantees. I never know what any of that shit means, but 60 fully guaranteed. Fully guaranteed. They they handed him 60 million dollars for having a thousand and three yards last year. I th I think it's ridiculous because you're kind of paying him on like what he can do over the course of that contract. I don't know if he gets better as a receiver. I think he's kind of who he is. Also, and the biggest problem with that is who's gonna throw him the football? Daniel fucking Jones, who they also signed for two years,$88 million, gave him$60 million guaranteed,$50 million and get in. So they just went and paid$120 million. Money that could feed the poor Will sounds. No. They paid them$120 million to go be like a lukewarm offense. And they're trying to recreate what they did last year.

SPEAKER_00 1:11:16

No, they are went eight and two.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:19

They I think they went seven and one. Is that true? Maybe they were eight and two, and and then they lost their subsequent seven games. And you could you could argue, well, well, Cole, Daniel Jones got hurt. Yeah, this guy has always been hurt. Every single year that he's played in his entire career, he's had what 16 good games over seven seasons? Gotta pay him 50 million up front. Like, what are we doing?

SPEAKER_00 1:11:45

Well, they they had him on the transition tag, which nobody was gonna pay him. Why would you sign him?

SPEAKER_04 1:11:55

Why in a year he's gonna look that's gonna be a cheap contract for Daniel Jones? Instead of paying him$75 million next year, they want to pay.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:07

This guy stinks. This guy stinks. Like, I'm sorry. He had eight good games. Look at who the Colts beat last year.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:16

Didn't every one of their coaches get fired? I'm pulling up the Colts. No, that was the Patriots. Okay. No, no, no. Hold on. Colts uh 2025. Schedule. This is who they beat in the beginning of the season. We're gonna roll through this real quick. Uh the Titans twice, that is for sure. They beat the Titans twice. They beat that's preseason where they start. They beat the Dolphins, fired their coach. Uh they beat the Broncos by one, should have lost. The dumb panel. Remember? Yeah. Yeah. Uh lost to the Rams, played them pretty close. They beat the Raiders. Oh, fired their coach, number one pick in the draft. Beat the Cardinals, fired their coach. They beat the Chargers by 14. That's their best win by far. You could argue the Broncos. That game was stupid. Broncos played everybody close all year. Probably should have won that one. They beat the Chargers by 14. Okay. Uh remember they got Mollywat by the Steelers? And we bet all over them. That was the fucking London game. Here's their second blowout win against the Titans. They beat the Falcons in overtime, fired their coach. And then they lost the rest of their games. And this team stinks. They made an awful decision trying to go get Sauce Gardner. So their next two first-round picks are Sauce Gardner. He's a good player. Immediately got hurt upon signing with the team. And that's a move you make if you're one player away. If you're a couple pieces away. They are not that. Daniel Jones is a bad quarterback. He will always be a bad quarterback. And Alec Pierce is a mid-level player in the NFL who has a one very specific skill set, and you gave them both$60 million. And this is where you have a guy, Chris Ballard, who is mad with power, who's been the GM for like 11 million years, and he can't get fired. I think he's I heard someone talking about it, but like I think he's just seeing what he can do until he gets fired. It's like I'll have this job forever. Lost Quitty Pay, lost Braden Smith. Chris Ballard is 62, 69, and one with two playoff appearances, none in the last four years, and he hasn't gotten fired. It's a bad GM. And then an owner that just took over for a dad who tragically passed. And like there's this team is directionless and dull, and I cannot wait to see uh them be bad this year.

SPEAKER_04 1:14:54

It's just why I wish we kept Devin Lloyd. I think he is just I I do think these are teams we can beat with them, with the Texans, who have as another loser, and uh the Titans. Like this is a division we can go back to back in. Um it's gonna be tougher now.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:12

Yeah, you want to move on from the Colts? I mean, I that was fun. That was my most fun we've had on the back podcast, honestly.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:20

No, they're yeah, you're right. They're directionless, and it's it's gonna be ugly.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:24

It's just not a good team. Like it's an okay team. They're gonna be amazing. Uh yeah, that's also a good question. He broke his, he's playing on a broken leg last year, snapped his Achilles. Uh-huh. They beat nobody's all season. And then okay, so you're paying him for the second year if he doesn't start the year? You don't have a first round pick. What are you doing? Go look at the Colts' roster, if you're at home listening to this, and tell me this looks like a Super Bowl winning team. They're gonna be okay. Like their ceiling will, what is it, 10 wins?

SPEAKER_04 1:16:04

Six.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:06

That's eight. Eight. I think it's ten. I think their best case scenario is the seven seed or six seed. Yeah. Or the division falls apart and they slide in at the four seed. Yeah. This is a they lost Braden Smith. Yeah, no. All right, let's move on, sir. Got more losers and winners.

SPEAKER_04 1:16:29

Texans. Yeah, I agree. I'd like David Montgomery, but I don't like that he doesn't have an offensive line to really run behind. And yeah, no, they they paid out a lot of stuff to to guys that they didn't I don't want to say didn't need, but you didn't need Reed Blankenship on that much money for what he's gonna do for you. EJ Speed and Sheldon Rankins, they re-signed for double digit millions. It's Yeah, I mean Ooh, Daniil Hunter got 40 million extension.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:04

Yeah, that's for the next season that's not for this season. But he I mean he's a really good player. Their defen I think Texans are gonna be a very similar boat that they were this past year, where their defense is awesome and their offense is questionable, and it's like how many years are we gonna do this in a row? Yeah. They really need linemen bad. Like if if I guess the Braden Smith signing is decent, but like who is Arante Ursary?

unknown 1:17:34

No.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:34

I guess second round pick from last year.

SPEAKER_04 1:17:38

They resigned Ed Ingram for 38 mil, Trent Brown.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:43

So he's a backup. Like, I don't know. Like, this uh is this offensive line good enough to support CJ Stroud and and the weapons they have at wideout. I don't think so. They feel like an offensive line away, and it doesn't feel like they address their base need. So kind of agree with you there in the Texans, but all right, who else we got in the losers? I got the Packers and the Losers. Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:10

They Yeah, they uh I I just don't love the moves they made. They got Javon Hargrave, Zaire Franklin, Benjamin St. Juice, but they gave up uh Rashawn Gary, they gave up uh Quay Walker, they gave up um I think they they released the corner that they got from you guys, Nate Hops. Um yeah, it it seems like they're kind of trying to rebuild on the fly. And yeah, it's I I just don't think they added enough for what they gave up.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:41

Yeah, I mean they just I I think they have a lot of money tied up and it was hard to bring those guys back. Um they if everyone gets healthy, they should be a pretty good team still, but like they didn't really add anything, so I kind of get putting them in the losers. Kind of like the Jags.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:57

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Malik Willis walked and he was playing actual minutes for him last year with uh with love going down. It's it's whether or not love can stay healthy, I guess.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:09

Would I say minutes? No, it just made me laugh. Like we've been watching too much basketball. Snacks. I haven't watched a lot of basketball. We refer to that as snaps in the NFL. Yeah. Uh but yeah. No, I agree with you there. All right, who else we got? Uh Falcons. We've already kind of made my case. Anytime you can go get two on a veteran minimum, you gotta do it. Uh yeah, they signed Jahan Dotson, gave him 10 million guarantee. That guy's done nothing in the NFL.

SPEAKER_04 1:19:44

Mm-hmm. Austin Hooper.

SPEAKER_01 1:19:47

Uh great. It's a backup Kyle Pitts. Uh disease, Ojolare. I think the Falcons might be in hell. I think Stefanski might have gone to Brown South. I mean, they probably should have won that division last year, but if Penix loses the job to Tua, like you're in deep shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:20:10

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:11

So you you lost your biggest, you know, you trade uh the 13th overall pick for James Pierce. He's not coming back anytime soon. Unless like he pleads temporary insanity and gets gets to walk, but I doubt it. And so this team is just gonna be one of those teams with a lot of fun pieces on it, I think. But yeah, I don't know about that Jahan Dotson sighting. Yeah, I don't I don't know. When I saw two is gonna compete for the starter job, maybe it's just Coach Speak, but I was like, oh, but brother. You got any more losers?

SPEAKER_04 1:20:48

A lot of these other ones, Jets, I mean, they're trying to lose, so I guess that's not really a loss. Um because they have a plan. They're gonna bottom out, they're tanking for picks and or they're tanking for high.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:01

I signed some guys. They got Minka Fitzpatrick. They're not, you know, it's not the ter the worst. A lot of short deals, too. Mm-hmm. So I think it's all right. They they'll be better than they were last year if Gino stays healthy, I think.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:16

I think the uh the Bucks were another loser. I think giving up Mike Evans and Jamel Dean and only really adding Kenneth Gainwell was not a a huge move for off season.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:31

Yeah. Obviously, we're uh Bucky Irving's number one fans, but I guess you need a back dispel them. Yeah, they just they got a lot of money tied up, but it they really didn't do much. They got Alex Anzalone, he's a good player. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:48

Yeah, he'll be he'll be serviceable.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:51

Didn't know Jake Browning was still in the league. Signed in.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:56

I didn't either. Yeah, I think they took a little step back. It's a winnable winnable division, I guess. Um only last one, Ravens with their curse. Big losers, because they added a big curse. That's gonna haunt them.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:12

Yeah. So and they got they got Trey Anderson, who's uh an older guy than Max Crosby. The same amount of money. I guess they keep the draft picks, but better not whiff on 14 Ravens. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:26

Oh, how what a shame that would be. All right. Let's send the show in a positive note. Who we got as winners. Let's roll through this. We've been going for so long.

SPEAKER_04 1:22:36

I loved the Niners. They didn't do a whole lot, um, but I I think those moves were were key. Um Panthers did did a great job of beefing up the defense. I loved your Raiders moves. Yeah, I think it's overpaid, but it's it's phenomenal moves all around.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:53

Gotta get them to go the the Raiders, you know what I mean? And then I I like what we did. I mean, we talked about already. I want to stop on the 49ers for just a second. Yeah, go ahead. But just just some nice signing. They're a classic team. Like if they stay healthy, they typically they're in the NFC championship game or the Super Bowl. But can they get rid of that uh you know electrical effect? I know, I'm I know it's a dumb conspiracy, and a lot of people say it's not true or whatever. I believe it. Yeah. Whenever that guy with the the meter that read the the electrical put out or whatever. Oh, is it 17 hectares? We got the measure. No.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:35

It's like what? I can't believe it.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:38

You're not even supposed to have anybody around that, but um, I I choose to believe it. But yeah, I like the Mike Evans signer. Uh Panthers, I think they did a good job too. All right, who else we got?

SPEAKER_04 1:23:53

Do you like what the Chargers did? This is more of a question. I I kind of want to put them in winners, but I feel like it's just kind of uh they went out and signed four offensive linemen. I really like Keaton Mitchell.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:06

I do like Keaton Mitchell too. I think he's a really good player. He's obviously been buying Derrick Henry, so not a lot of room to do much, and he blew up his knee bad uh with the Ravens, but when he touches the ball, he's just electric. I think he's a good combo back uh with oh, as his name is escaping me, Amarian Hampton. And they went and signed a bunch of linemen. Resigned guys, and but they're re-signing guys that weren't good for him. And they're signing guys that like haven't been great. I guess the center, Tyler uh Biad is is is pretty good, gave him some money. So can they rebuild that offensive line? That's a big question. And then on the defensive side, like I I think they they could be a winner, but I don't think they're they did enough to like pop in a free agency way where you're supposed to, you know, sign the big tickets and and do all this stuff that doesn't actually work when it comes to the regular season, but has you win free agency, you know what I mean? Yeah, yep. So if those linemen work out, I think that's just a huge win for them. Their biggest free agency acquisition might be their own tackles back from injury.

SPEAKER_03 1:25:17

Yep. Yeah, I agree. I don't have a lot much more.

SPEAKER_04 1:25:24

Uh Commanders, I liked their moves. We talked about that one. Um we did talk about that one. We talked about Bears too. Uh-huh. I liked what they did. Vikings, do you think that was a win? Adding Kyler. Kyler?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:38

Yeah. Yes. I mean, you you couldn't go into next season with JJ as a starter. Yeah. And it became pretty clear right away that they were gonna get Kyler. They went out and got it, they didn't play around. Uh, it's a good deal for both the player and uh the team. So I like that a lot. Yeah, I I like what the commanders did too. I just want to say that. But you couldn't go into the season with nine, especially in that division. Yeah. As loaded as it is. It gives them a chance. Hey, they went nine and eight last year, even with the team they had. So imagine what they could do with a serviceable quarterback. Who'd potentially get better with Kevin O'Connell? That's kind of the whole point of Kevin O'Connell. Definitely. Yeah, he'll he'll coach him up. He'll get him right. Are the Steelers going to be a loser or winner if Ann Rodgers comes back? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:37

Rico and I I think loser. I like the Pittman signing, but I guess I like Jamal Dean and Asante Samuel.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:45

Yeah. R.I.P. Caleb Johnson Dynasty Fantasy Holders out there. He was supposed to be a guy that popped or was a Steel as a rookie running back, and the Steelers told you what they think of him.

unknown 1:26:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:59

And he'll always be remembered for fucking up on that kickoff. Oh yeah. Didn't he was it a touchdown? Did he let? Did he like let the ball drop the ball? Or was it a safety or something? I can't remember. He did something stupid. He did something stupid. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:27:19

I want to say losers, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:23

Yeah. I mean Aaron Rodgers. Like, what are we doing? Stealing. What if it's Kirk? Arthur Smith, too. Kirk, yes. Like, he wasn't very good last year either. Go suck and draft a quarterback. That's why I didn't get the Michael Pittman trade.

SPEAKER_03 1:27:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:40

Go suck. They didn't they didn't sign Malik Willis or anything. Like it's so hard to find a quarterback. Are they a team that's gonna wait for Kyler Murray to ne get like a thirty million dollar deal next season? Like, I don't They didn't go get Sam Darnold. Like, go make a move. Do something. Stop with these old men. I think this is like a you know, a twenty year old girl who's just got the terrible old men taste. It's no good for you, Jessica. Alright. I feel like that's the pod. You got anything else you wanna add?

SPEAKER_04 1:28:14

No, no, I think that's it. That's a great great off season. Come on, Jags, do something. Um not gonna see it much in the draft, but yeah, no, I'd I like a lot of moves and we'll see where these teams go. There's still a lot of free agents left out there too, so we might have some more news next week.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:34

Um more Max Crosby stuff too, we'll see if he moves.

SPEAKER_04 1:28:38

I hope he stays for you guys. I think he's gonna be phenomenal this year.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:42

I I agree in part with that. I just if we get a first round pick this season, I was kind of excited with the prospect of getting another first round pick. So we'll see. If not, I'm I'm okay with him staying. I love him, it's better value for him to stay. I know. I had already moved on. So I'm kinda like, okay. Well I guess, you know. I mean, this defense could be really good, so we'll see. But yeah, good luck to both our teams, good luck to everybody. Uh we'll have we'll have shows coming up for the next month and a half to the draft, draft show, and then we'll probably take a little break after the draft. So we're back at least for the next two months. So from me, Cole Smithson the locksmith from Sick Willie. Thank you for all of you out there to make podcasts so special with thank you. Peace. Peace. Feels good to say that again.