Slick Willy's Mock Draft

The boys open the show putting some finishing touches on the Dianna Russini, Mike Vrabel gossip and discussing some uniform changes from around the NFL. Then 'The Lock Smith' Cole Smithson and 'Slick Willy' Will Einfalt break down Will's first round mock draft getting ready for next weeks draft. Love y'all. Enjoy.

Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:13

With two minutes to go, it's fourth and thirty-two. Hello and welcome back to the Fourth and 32 podcast. I'm your host, Cole Smitson, the locksmith, and joining me as always, the draft guru himself. It's the wettest man in podcasting slick, Willy, Will Einfeld. How you feeling, bud? Uh, first and only mock draft we're gonna do this uh this year.

SPEAKER_00 0:39

I'm putting a couple out on social media, but I don't think I can take the the title draft guru from from Ethan Sue. Yeah, he's our he's our true, our true draft guy. We'll have to uh we'll have to maybe get him on or at least get some picks from him uh before this draft actually happens. But that's true.

SPEAKER_05 0:58

We gotta reach out. I think we're gonna have Mike Dwayne on the first round recap.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:03

Talk about potentially an AJ Brown trade uh to the Patriots, maybe. Um talk about maybe the Mike Frable, Diane Rossini scandal. Uh, me and Mike actually had a phone call this past week where we talked about it a little bit. But uh yeah, we we talked about it on the last show. We're gonna do we got a, I guess, a couple news things to talk about before we dive into your mock draft. But uh everybody check out everything we're doing on the draft. Uh check out last week's episode. Uh we'll we'll have a first-round recap, we'll have a first-round preview, all that stuff coming out next week. But we we were giving them the benefit of the doubt, I think. And after seeing Diana Rossini resign, and after seeing, you know, the other details coming out, it's a lot harder to give them the benefit of the doubt. I'm not trying to be a gossip queen here, but it is a pretty juicy story, and it is the worst timing for them in the NFL when there's nothing else to really talk about. So you have a reporter and a head coach, uh, you know, an NFL insider working for The Athletic, which is owned by the New York Times. Hang out at a couple's resort, multiple thousands of dollars a night, two hours away from where either of them needed to be. If it was really hanging out with friends, why has nobody come out to prove them correct? It does seem like they got caught. It seems like a private investigator was hired uh to catch them, who hired the private investigator. I'm sure all that will come out, or maybe it won't, but it it's a pretty it's pretty awful story for Diana Rossini, who I liked her a lot. And I'm not gonna sit sit here and say, like, I'm judging her morally. I mean, I am, you know, you got a family and kids, it's pretty terrible, but as a journalist, would you have done it? No. But it's the point is, is like you can't, you are going to lose your job. And I I did see, you know, the the wokesters of of which I am one, but come out and try to be like, oh, classic, the woman losing her job and the man. Well, his job doesn't involve getting sources and staying professional. And yeah, he did a he did a bad thing, but it doesn't matter. He just coached a team to the Super Bowl in his first year there. He's not getting fired. He's one of the best coaches in the NFL in the NFL. She violated her ethical and moral responsibility as a report. And then even in her letter that I saw her post about her walking away before a contract expires this summer, anyway, like there is really no remorse. There was more denials, and they they have yet to explain why they were at the couples' resort. Obviously, you gotta do the denials front-facing PR, whatever. I'm sure they have lawyers or whatever, legal representation that's telling them how to speak about it. You just deny, deny, deny, move on. I hope everybody stops talking about it, which is probably what's going to happen, but you got caught. And you have yet to show any evidence that this wasn't the case. So until further notice, you got caught. And it's and it's it's a juicy story. What can you say? It's why everybody's talking about it. I saw a billion reels talking about it. So it's it's a fun off-season storyline. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, guys. I like you both, but it is what it is. You got any thoughts on uh the scandal before we move on?

SPEAKER_00 4:51

Yeah, it it like you were saying, it the he's not gonna really get much flack from it.

SPEAKER_02 4:57

No.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

Because it just doesn't happen to NFL head coaches. I mean, do you remember Urban Meyer uh for my Jaguars uh was dancing and grinding on a girl in a Cincinnati bar and Thursday night came out? Yeah, after we got whooped. He's got a wife and kids, yeah. He's got a wife and kids, and nothing was really ever said about it. Not even when he was fired, they didn't they didn't bring it up. They were like, nah, you kicked our kicker and you said some mean stuff to the players, and yeah, you you lost, so you're out of here.

SPEAKER_05 5:30

So yeah, he got fired for being a bad coach. But Vregel isn't a bad coach. Maybe if his uh job was tenuous, this would be the straw that broke the camel's back. But yeah, he it I remember Mike brought up Ime Udoku, who got fired from the Celtics in the offseason for a big sex scandal. We still don't know what happened there, but apparently he was, you know, either having sex with a staffer or like somebody's wife high up in the organization, potentially on the owner level or in the front office, whatever the case is. I'm not trying to speculate on that now.

SPEAKER_03 6:04

It's such an old story, but and he's still in the league coaching.

SPEAKER_05 6:09

Like he's the coach of the Rockets. He just got fired because he was doing stuff in that organization that was bad. And like winning's the biggest thing when it comes to that job. Like, he's not a journalist. He, like I said, he has no ethical responsibility. Yeah, you know, and if the locker room, say there's I don't know, 30, let's just say a number. There's 30 coaches in the offseason, there's 70 players, there's a hundred dudes. How many of them are cheating on their wives? It's more than the what's in the water up in Boston.

SPEAKER_01 6:38

I I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_05 6:39

But uh it's just the the Birmingham of the South. Nobody talks about it, but it's true. But or the North, I mean, but would regardless. It's just how it's it's what it is. No one's saying it's a good thing. I'm just saying it is what it is. And I bet he's not even gonna get a divorce. I think it's way more likely Diana Rossini gets the divorce. Which is again unfortunate. Her life and her work, everything she's done, it's it's I think it's sad.

SPEAKER_00 7:06

But after those quotes you read last week, it seems like she's been wanting this.

SPEAKER_05 7:13

So I disagree. I know, I think it's horrible. I really do. Like to watch somebody's life, and maybe she'll bounce back from this. And I'm I'm completely wrong, but watch somebody's life kind of fall apart in one fell swoop. But it always comes back to well, you're just gonna move on like nothing happened if you didn't get caught and probably continue to do it. And you're it's what does Beyonce say? You're not sorry, you're sorry you got caught. Exactly. And that's that's what it is, that's what it feels like. I'm sorry, but it's just it's yeah, what do you what are you gonna do? I get it, right? Like people, people are horned up, people are, you know, that's a man, Mike Frabel, right? I don't even know. I I'm like blushing over here for no reason. It's scandalous, and it's like it's just it's a thing that maybe it shouldn't be. Maybe go fix it if you can, but it's one of those things that's more accepted in NFL locker rooms or NBA locker rooms. And I think NFL Wives, which Mike Rebel's wife is, like kind of know what they're signing up for. I'd be shocked if it was him getting divorced, and maybe he she will divorce him and show cause and take m most of his shit and get custody of the kids. Maybe that happens, but I doubt it. Does he have kids? I think so, yeah. I think they both have uh significant others and children. So he's 50. I think he has kids.

SPEAKER_00 8:47

Yeah, yeah. I I don't really have much else to add. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:50

He's gonna be in the war room for the draft, and that's what's gonna happen. It's just it is what it is.

SPEAKER_05 9:00

You know, it's not because she's a woman and he's a man, it's not a double standard, it's the NFL. It is it is what it is. If he didn't perform, he'd probably be done.

SPEAKER_00 9:17

But he does. And if he didn't perform with her, maybe this didn't this wouldn't have happened.

SPEAKER_05 9:24

There you go. Wait, wait, wait. Another reporter got fired for criticizing Diana Rossini. Wow. I'm trying to figure out what happened here. Uh her recent statements do not reflect the professionalism. Uh, what does she say? Can't figure out. I'm sure you're told to submit this or you'd get fired instead. This is about her resonate rate resignation. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. Oh my god. We know who you really are, what you've been for years. It does so much detriment to women in sports who have done things the right way. I'm shocked she got fired for that. I saw a lot of people being really upset about it. I mean, I think she's kind of right. Yeah. I'm not gonna lie. Like, I it it must be so difficult to be a woman in this male dam dominated industry and to be seen as respectful and professional. And if there were rumors swirling, like have been uh alleged in the past about inappropriate conduct, and you're making it hard for female reporters who are doing their jobs and not, you know, sleeping with coaches, uh, whatever else happened, right? Allegedly. I I think there's some truth in that. I I don't get why she got fired at all. Can't say anything nowadays. All right, let's let's move on. Um that's crazy. Imagine getting fired because some other chick was cheating on her husband. Oh man. Dude, the the Ravens and the the Rams came out with their new uniforms, and literally nothing has changed, and I don't understand why they released these.

SPEAKER_00 11:16

Pivot.

SPEAKER_05 11:18

I literally have no idea. Maybe the helmets look a little different, but yeah, I don't uh it says most significant change. I don't I need you to Google these and tell me what's different about the Ravens uniforms.

SPEAKER_01 11:33

I'm kind of colorblind, but is the purple different? Is it darker?

SPEAKER_03 11:38

Is it?

SPEAKER_05 11:39

I'm kind of colorblind too. So this is the blind leading the blind here. I need someone to explain to me how this is different. Is the black different? Because I know they have the the gold coloring on like the color rushy uniform. Maybe it's a different purple and it's just not like catch-in with us. But yeah, I'm seeing most significant change since they replaced the old logo with the the new bird logo in 1999.

SPEAKER_00 12:06

The darkness helmet, new matte black, features a talon stripe and two-tone-facing Ravens logo with red eyes.

SPEAKER_05 12:14

That's cool. But I don't see Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_00 12:20

The helmet looks different. It's it's like a darker gray.

SPEAKER_05 12:25

Darker Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I can see that. It's but look at their regular uniforms.

SPEAKER_01 12:30

Is that different? They have sleeve shields. There's a small purple lining under the arm. That's it. I just the I don't get it.

SPEAKER_05 12:42

And the shield looks darker. Midnight purple is cool. So it's I think it's so it's purple so dark that it's all right. We're moving on. Black. This is a terrible podcast. I saw the commanders rolled back their old Washington Rwards uniforms, but they look sweet.

unknown 13:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:00

Getting away from those terrible jerseys they had. They're keeping the black alternates. Maybe they adjusted them a little bit, but I think that's a great idea. They wore them as an alternate last year, and they just look a lot better. I know the helmets look different. Uh, you can say what you want about that, but Commander is one of the worst team names in the NFL. Like, go back to your bread and butter and what works when fans were excited. They call it the Super Bowl era uniforms. As everybody knows, we don't say the R-word on this podcast. It's been a longstanding tradition, but yeah. I think they look sweet. Uh the Rams did the exact same thing as the Ravens, where I'm looking at their their brand new Jersey rollout, and I'm at a loss for words because I I cannot tell you what has changed. Are they, is it, are they doing the Ram helmets again? Did they stop?

SPEAKER_01 13:47

The whites are now bone colored. Oh my bad.

SPEAKER_05 13:55

How did I not notice that? All right. Like I'm I'm a boomer. I need you to explain in words what the difference is. Anyway, is there any other news going around? Uh Ruben Banned, I mean we're gonna talk about the draft, but this is a pretty big story. Uh I don't know how it got kept under wraps for years, but he was sighted with reckless driving at four in the morning in a crash that killed a female passenger. On St. Patrick's Day. And everybody's kind of got the same thought on this. Was not tested field sobriety for alcohol, for drugs, for anything. And I'm not sitting here saying, like, I'm, you know, I'm not the strong armor of the law and don't want 19-year-olds to go to jail forever. But like, that's what happens if you drunk drive, crash, and kill somebody. And what is in everybody's mind goes to that's what probably happened, right? And this is something NFL teams have to take into consideration. And maybe, you know, you get the the luck of the universe placed on you. You go out there, you have your NFL dreams ahead of you, and you never drink a drive again. Or, oh, I can't get in trouble no matter what I do. And the last thing the league wants is another Henry Rugg scandal. Yeah. It's pretty Who also said he wants to return to the Raiders. I mean, if he can still run that 4-3-40, I think we'll take him. He was really becoming a player in that season. People don't talk about it, but like he was started to be the guy, and that was just there's such a horrible so obviously another, you know, tragic story. And he deserved to go to jail. But that's kind of my point with the Ruben Banned story. It's like if you did it, you deserve to go to jail, no matter what I think about you as the football player. I think we all agree with that.

SPEAKER_00 15:54

Yeah, I don't think this is a cop. I don't think it's a cop looking well, I I I think it's a cop looking the other way. I don't think it's a cop uh messing up and forgetting to do a field sobriety test. That obviously should have happened, like you said. Yeah. Uh just sad for the for the for the the girl's family. Of course.

SPEAKER_01 16:15

Um getting zero justice potentially.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

They've said this is this is we don't want to hear any more about it. Like this is um the more this can go kind of under wraps the better from the family. Because it just it obviously brings up hard memories for them and all that. So yeah, yeah. Tough situation, all in all.

SPEAKER_05 16:40

Um yeah, I'm seeing I'm seeing he was also cited in 2025 for careless driving. These NFL players in their driving, man. I've seen it with the Georgia guys over the years, Jordan Addison, right? Obviously, Henry Ruggs, like the biggest shining example. It's like I get it, you got fast cars and it's fun or whatever, but you have so much more to lose than the average person, also. That's why I kind of respect, you know, I don't know. LeBron James just always comes to mind. A guy's been the public spotlight for 25 years at this point. Never had one scandal.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:22

Like I do think it's something that teams gotta look at, but like we talked about the Mike Vrabel thing, they're not gonna he's getting drafted in the top 10. Because if you can perform, teams are over gonna overlook it.

SPEAKER_00 17:34

Yeah. NFL uses it as an open and shut case. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 17:40

No, no, exactly. Like uh NFL, most NFL teams knew about the accident prior to the report. And yeah, some people are calling the guy that made the report a scumbag. Look at me, click on my article, says Todd Viction. Uh which is uh everybody's saying it is nothing not indicative to who he is as a person. I don't know. It's just one of those things where I feel like every year, right, we're doing stories where it's like, is it not? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

I don't know. I don't know. Whatever. Um, anything else going on?

SPEAKER_05 18:19

No, not not that I can think of. Now the Giants might be shopping Dexter Lawrence.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

Yeah. Yeah, we talked about that a little bit last time. I think that's a dumb decision by them, but yeah, I agree.

SPEAKER_05 18:32

I'm curious to see what happens with AJ Brown's stuff as well, and if we get some dra uh, you know, draft night trades. A lot of these trades, you know, they're gonna happen after June 1st, but we'll probably have something that shakes up the draft a little bit.

SPEAKER_04 18:48

Um yeah, I really I don't really don't see much else. Oh, former Jets quarterback Browning Nagle, dead at 57 from colon cancer. They got a good one.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

Oh, Nagle?

SPEAKER_05 19:02

Browning Nagle, what a name. 1991 Fiesta Bowl MVP. Don't know his work, but RIP. It's a shame.

unknown 19:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 19:14

RIP. All right. Let's move on to the mock track. It's somewhat I it's like I know it's not football stuff really, but it's like it is always just uh let me get out of my soapbox for a second. Like I think it's always weird to talk about these stories. Like I've there has never been anything done. Maybe you can't, right? Maybe you can't. You got young guys with a lot of money and and just even as a prospect, like how much money you're worth these to these organizations, they're gonna draft you and immediately pay you like 20 million dollars in four years, which is unheard of to like any other uh younger 20s person, right? But uh it's just like nothing can be done to like have you know better code of conduct or rules or you know, moral standards in the NFL. Yeah. It's really where my my woke brain goes to die being a football fan in general. All the concussions and everything, like it's like ah, whatever. Oh my god. All right. Yeah, let's move on. Well, time for the mock draft. I'm excited to see which one you uh stuck with as your official mock draft. Um, you're not doing trades, correct?

SPEAKER_02 20:37

No, perfect.

SPEAKER_00 20:38

No, not doing trades. Um I will talk about teams that I could see potentially trading, trading down or trading up, just where they might go. Uh, but I might save that for the end. All right. And uh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 20:52

Perfect. Yeah, let I think we're gonna do three at a time for the top 12, really uh shine light on a couple of these picks, and then uh five at a time, 13 to 32 and call to death. All right, floor's yours.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

Yeah, I I'm just gonna kind of these first few um are pretty pretty easy for me, in my opinion. I I think the Raiders go Mendoza, they desperately need the stability under center. He checks all the boxes, and uh it kind of feels like a no-brainer. If you can't go bet it, go bet it. Because he's I uh he's going number one. Um number two, I got the Jets taking Arville Reese. He's the best best playmaker on defense, uh, probably best playmaker in this draft. And uh just a lead upside, he's vers versatile. You can kind of put him a little witter everywhere, and uh he's he's too tough to pass up at number two for the Jets. And uh three, I I pivoted. I commonly gone David Bailey uh for them to get a uh the true pivot. Pass rusher, but I went with the Cardinals drafting uh Francis Malinoa. Maliwoa. I think that's how you say it. Um from uh Miami, the offensive tackle. They they desperately need offensive line help. And when you're this high and and you need this much, just try to go get the best available guy. And uh he's just gonna be a staple in that offensive line for a long time.

SPEAKER_05 22:25

So yeah, I I think it makes sense uh that they just need help at every position. And at this point, like every mock draft's gonna have Mendoza one, and it we better take him one. I think that's where I'm at uh with it. But Jets going Arvell Reese, like any particular reason you have him over David Bailey in this spot.

SPEAKER_00 22:52

I think Bailey would fit into the Jets um Jets scheme a little bit better, what they want to eventually do. Um, but I don't think um I don't think Aaron Glenn's gonna be around for a very long time with this Jets organization. So I think they're just gonna take the the best available guy and a guy that they can maybe even move around should the defense switch to a 3-4 or any other big changes happen. So I I do really think he's he's one of the best available players in this draft, and getting him at two is gonna be the perfect spot for him.

SPEAKER_05 23:28

Yeah, you can't be drafting for fit in the top five anyway. Like if you think a guy fits better, but the other guy's more talented, I think you gotta get the more talented player in there. And like you said, yeah, Aaron Glenn doesn't seem like he's in there for the long haul. I'd be shocked if he lasted it the entire season, honestly. At this point with all the struggles he's already had. There's some thought they're gonna fire him last year. So it makes sense. I don't know if the whole front office is looking at it like that because it might be an entire cleaning of house, but yeah, Arvell Reese pretty much consistently graded out his better player, and the Jets just got to go with the best player available.

SPEAKER_00 24:07

Yeah, definitely. And uh yeah, I'm just gonna hop right into number four because it is David Bailey. Um, I think he is a top five player in this draft. He's a true edge presence, he's probably the best actual pass rusher uh in this draft, just elite burst and and a phenomenal defender on the outside. Um and I I pivoted because Titans I had going Jeremiah Love pretty consistently. Um I think bringing in a defensive-minded head coach, um, big need on defense. He's gonna look to try to revamp it, and a guy like David Bailey is just gonna come in and and be a true presence on the outside. So I think it's a little high for a running back, too, especially when you have so many other holes on offense you need to fix.

SPEAKER_05 24:58

Yeah. I mean, that was gonna be my only question about four is Titans not going, Jeremiah Love seems like a done deal here, but when you have offensive line issues, you don't want to draft a running back this high. Raiders saw that with Ashton Jensey last year, but yeah, hit five and six real quick and we'll break it all down.

unknown 25:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

Five I got Sonny Styles going to the Giants, just a a young, fast defen defender that can he can cover the cover the run, cover the the pass, blitz, sit in the box. He's just a an impact every level of the field, um, compared to to the Fred Warner type. And I think he'd he'd be great on the Giants just to share up that linebacker room. And then I got the the uh Browns taking Carnell Tate at six, just a true difference maker. Um and yeah, a desperate need for the Browns as they try to rework this team.

SPEAKER_05 25:53

Yeah, there's some thought that if Sonny Stiles is there at six, that the Cowboys are gonna be willing to trade a pretty decent hold to the Browns to move up from 12 and go get him. And the Cowboys definitely have maybe the biggest needed linebacker in the entire draft. So that kind of makes sense. Get the Browns more capital when they have a ton of holes to fill. But I like Styles going to the Giants. Like they uh they have a lot of pieces on defense, and if they can have a true defensive identity, they can rely on their ground game, you know, have an easier uh make it an easier life for their young quarterback. And I I I think Sonny Styles has the opportunity at least to be like a generational type player. So him going to the top five makes sense, even with the positional value being kind of out of whack.

SPEAKER_00 26:50

I've seen Caleb Downs there too, um pairing him with Javon Holland could make this get secondary pretty pretty tough. Um he is a game changer, but I think Sonny Styles fits a bigger role for them. And uh yeah, I like the point that you said about about the Browns potentially trading down with the Cowboys because he would fit this Cowboys defense perfectly. Um but yeah, I I think they would try to jump the commanders because if he falls to seven, I think they would they would jump on that.

SPEAKER_05 27:22

Yeah, and then uh Cardinal Tate going to the Browns makes a lot of sense. Like they just they just need as much talent as possible. That's why I could see them trading out of sixth, but it'd immediately become their number one.

SPEAKER_00 27:34

You'd have Jerry Judy on the other side, and yeah, they'll just keep trying to re- I mean, they obviously need to rework that offensive line almost completely and then probably set up their their quarterback of the future next year.

SPEAKER_01 27:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 27:51

So that might be that that might be hellish for Carnell Tate for a season or two, or maybe his entire Brown's career. But uh it makes a lot of sense as far as your mock draft goes. All right, what do we got for seven through nine?

SPEAKER_00 28:07

Seven, I got Jeremiah Love going to the Commanders. Um I talked about this previously, but yeah, true kind of do-it-all running back, one of the top players in this draft. And yeah, him falling to seven to the commanders is kind of a perfect fit for them and for him. Um remember they they went, what, 12 and 5 two seasons ago?

SPEAKER_05 28:29

13 and 4, I believe.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

13 and 4? Okay, yeah, even better. So yeah, he's a guy that can fill an immediate uh hole and uh yeah be set up for success.

SPEAKER_05 28:40

Yeah, Bill stands furious. Yeah. I think I already made that joke last week, but I stand by it.

SPEAKER_00 28:48

Yeah, uh Bill Crosby Crosby Merritt. Bill Krosky. Krosky. Yeah. Uh he's a number two anyway. He knows it. Um yeah. Uh moving on. I got I got the Saints taking Ruben Bain, the edge rusher from Miami, a number eight, uh, just an edge presence and and a guy that can rush the passer. Rush, Rush, la la. Rush the passer. Wow. That was tough. Um, but yeah, just kind of has that that mentality that he's never gonna give up on the play, and uh, he'd be great down in New Orleans. And then I've got the Chiefs uh replacing some cornerback help, uh cornerback room depth with uh Monsour Delane, the best corner out of LSU at number nine, gotten into that top ten.

SPEAKER_05 29:40

Yeah, there's some idea Chiefs go offense here, but they've given away so much of their defense, and that was their identity for a long time. The Rams getting both their top corners. So replacing that with the best corner in the draft makes a lot of sense. And I'm seeing almost everybody, if the Saints stay at eight, giving them uh Ruben Bann.

SPEAKER_02 30:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 30:03

And it feels like, you know, you missed out on that top tier of edge rusher, but he's he's right underneath of it. There's obviously the concerns about the off-the-field stuff, but also more importantly to NFL teams, the arm length and whether or not he can really translate his production costs to the NFL, but I think it makes sense there. Uh Jeremia loved the commanders. I I mean we talked about it a little bit last week, but I I think this would be an amazing addition for them. They'd be kind of lucky for him to fall to seven, but if if he does, I think they gotta go get it.

SPEAKER_00 30:39

Yeah, I think he's like the fourth best player in this draft. So yeah, him falling to seven would just be very, very, very lucky and very nice for them.

SPEAKER_05 30:48

I'm seeing a lot of people have him as the number one player in the draft. Really? Yeah. Or at least top two. Wow. Honestly. Okay. So going to a team with that has done it before, if the quarterback can stay healthy, maybe help the quarterback stay healthy. It's like a souped-up version of him going to Tennessee to help a young quarterback. You have a quarterback that's already done it, already been in a conference championship uh without really a superstar running back. So giving him that potential superstar, like it'd go a long way for Jane Daniels' career and longevity, honestly. If he doesn't have to run around to do too much.

SPEAKER_00 31:28

Yeah. And then on that Chiefs point, too, you said uh them potentially going offense. They they would probably go receiver if they were going offense with maybe like a Jordan Tyson or Mikhae Lemon. But I think this this draft is so deep. You go you go snag him at 29. Go snag like a Denzel Boston or uh KC Concepcion or one of those guys. Yeah. Whoever you fall in love with. Go go pick a top corner, let him develop and and have him on a nice contract.

SPEAKER_05 32:00

I think that's a more pressing need for them in nine, also. And you can get a better corner here than you can get a receiver with the top one off the board. So makes a lot of sense. All right, let's see uh ten through twelve.

SPEAKER_00 32:12

Ten, I got the Bengals picking uh picking Caleb Downs, another guy that is probably ranked in the top five of just potential guys in this draft, and and now they're gonna uh shake out, but he falls all the way to ten with the Bengals, and it's just a great fit for them, great fit for him as well. Um I could see him going earlier. I just I I couldn't fit him in anywhere, really. Like I I don't think he's gonna fall to ten. I think some team is gonna move up and snag him with that that six, seven, eight pick. Um but yeah, I went I went no trades in this one, so he ended up falling to ten to the Bengals.

SPEAKER_05 32:54

Yeah, I mean their safety play last year was so atrocious. This would be a huge one for him. And like you said, they might have to move up both not doing trades. Makes a lot of sense.

SPEAKER_00 33:04

Mm-hmm. And then I've got the Dolphins taking taking Mikhail Lemon. Uh that this is one I I've seen this almost everywhere. Uh-huh. Plug and play guy. Um, a lot of people have him flip-flopped with um with uh with uh Tyson out of Arizona State. But I think he's just a a difference maker with the toughness, reliable hands, and he's gonna be great for uh Malik Willis down in Miami.

SPEAKER_05 33:31

They need somebody on the outside or inside, I imagine he uh grades out to more of a slot. But they they just need somebody to throw the ball to.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

And then I've got the uh Cowboys taking Jamad McCoy. Uh they have an obvious hole in the secondary that they need some help replacing. So yeah, bring a true shutdown corner. He's the second guy off the board from that spot, but um, he is if if he well, he has potentially recovered fully from this ACL injury, and uh the talent and ball production are there. He's a big playmaker and it could pay off in a big way if he's able to just come in there and and do his thing.

SPEAKER_05 34:19

Yeah, I could see him going to uh the Bengals as well.

unknown 34:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:25

If the lane's off the board. Um, that makes a lot of sense to me. But Cowboys just need so much defensive help. Honestly, the Cowboys need a linebacker more than any other team in the league. But the fact that there's really no other linebackers probably gonna go in the first round. I I think if I liked any trade, it is the Cowboys moving up to go get Sonny Styles more than anything. Like this is not a linebacker deep draft at all. But if you can't go do make that trade happen, I think you gotta go defense. Make a really good secondary again, and then potentially help your linebackers. But if they're rolling out the same linebackers they had last year, it's gonna be a dark season for the Cowboys.

SPEAKER_00 35:09

And there's a couple guys in the second round that they could make moves for that are not they're not first round guys, but they're guys that you can plug in and play. And uh and should be big, big guys um production-wise for them. So yeah, with them I went with them going corner. But I also like that trade a lot.

SPEAKER_05 35:32

Yeah, they they gotta do something on defense, having offensive talent, how many more years of Dak you got left? Like, can't be having the worst one of the worst defenses in the league every season. Yeah, definitely. Uh give me your next five, Will. I also like Mikhail Lemon, I'm so sorry. I love you. I am so sorry if you go to the Dolphins. That team's gonna stick. Being that bad potentially next year and having the 11th pick in this draft is just oh, it's an awful, awful feeling. And maybe I'm completely wrong. Maybe the head coach is amazing, they figure out stuff around the edges, and and Malik Wills is really good, but it's a lot of babies.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

I They're another team I could potentially see moving down because they just need so much help. 100%.

SPEAKER_05 36:20

100%. But uh getting a receiver to have somebody for Malik Willis to throw to makes a lot of sense. I'm seeing this. What about Malik Washington? Oh, you're being serious for a second. No. The jet sweep king himself, Malik Washington. Yeah. Preseason beast, Malik Washington. Uh, this next team, I see everybody mocking a receiver to. If they stay. Talks about them.

SPEAKER_00 36:50

Jordan Jordan Tyson is who I got going to the Rams here. Arizona State guy. Um, a guy I've also seen in the top ten several times, explosive. He's uh he's a big playability, big body guy. Um and yeah, I I mean Heinz Ward was his his coach at Arizona State, and I was reading a little quote on him today. He's like, I'm gonna put all my eggs in uh in his basket. So I think Tyson has a lot riding on him. I think he's gonna be a good receiver in this league, and him going to the Rams would be just a really good fit for them, especially if they can't figure out this Puka stuff.

SPEAKER_05 37:30

If they stay put and go draft a receiver, I think Puka's days are numbered in LA.

unknown 37:36

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 37:38

I could maybe also see an offensive lineman. Um, but yeah. No, I I think you go draft a weapon and then think about moving Puka.

SPEAKER_05 37:49

Your draft really has uh the offensive line talent fallen down the board.

SPEAKER_00 37:55

They kind of do. Yeah. I have so I have the Ravens going offensive line next with Spencer Fano, the offensive tackle from Utah. Um he's probably the second best guy off the board. And uh yeah, they they get this guy that that can kind of plug and play. He can maybe swing tackle for them because they do have two good tackles, or he can slide inside and start right away, and then you maybe potentially uh move him back outside whenever um uh the left tackle retires. What's his name?

SPEAKER_05 38:29

Oh Ronnie Stanley.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

Yeah, Stanley. Yeah, once Ronnie Stanley potentially retires in a couple years, you can move him back outside if you need to. But he's he's just a good offensive lineman who's who can be versatile. He's got the athleticism, and yeah, he can he can pretty much plug and play anywhere on that offensive line that you need him. So, yeah, I got them them staying, drafting an offensive tackle for the Ravens at 14. And then I've got kind of a weird one here. And I want to know what you think. I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna draft the uh tight end from Oregon, Kenyon Sadiq for the Buccaneers here at 15. This one's kind of a weird one. Um they do need a tight end desperately. Um I only have two on the on the on the uh roster at the moment. You go get an athletic guy that can go go run some rows, cut inside. I know he's probably getting drafted a little early here because there's not a whole lot of good tight ends. I could also see them going edge rusher because that's a desperate need. Um but yeah, what do you think about the Bucks going tight end at at 15?

SPEAKER_05 39:44

I think it's a little high. Just because everything I've seen about Sadiq is he's an athletic freak, but the tape just doesn't justify this high of a pick. Um and he might be one of those first round tight ends, the bus. But that's the Buccaneers had the second fewest receiving yards from tight ends last year, so it makes a lot of sense to go get him. When you already have go on.

SPEAKER_00 40:08

I was just gonna say, and they lose their big body receiver and Mike Evans to the Niners in the offseason, too. So get a go get a guy that can go catch in the outside if you need him to, or go right up the middle.

SPEAKER_02 40:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:22

Baker's gonna find him. All right, what's 16-17? 16. I got the Jets taking Omar Cooper Jr., the next best wide receiver off the board. Uh, just a guy that can can help out that offense in any way they can. He's reliable, tough, and he kind of fits this role perfectly. Um it just helps balance out their offense a little bit. Um, and then I've got 17, I've got the the Lions taking Monroe Freeling. So another offensive tackle off the board. Um a true Mauler is what what Freelan has has been basically framed as. He's he's got the athleticism, but he's also just he's got the size, strength, and and upside. So he's a bit raw, but yeah, the the he kind of seems like a Lions type of guy that they can mold and and have do whatever they want for him.

SPEAKER_05 41:18

I think that's ideal for the Lions, honestly. They need offensive line help desperately. Uh, we saw how last season ended for them. Um, I think the Ravens would be another it'd be another great pick as far as Finnault goes for building depth on a position they might already have, but also building for the future, which seems like they always do. Um and then the Jets get no Mark Cooper. Like, I'm so sorry to both you and uh Garrett Wilson. And it's like building at a position that I I see a lot of people having the Jets get a receiver here, and I just don't understand it. Like your team sticks.

SPEAKER_00 42:03

You don't need offensive line, though. Not really. Yeah, but in the Jets. So what do you where do you go? Safety?

SPEAKER_05 42:11

I just go edge. Maybe you're reaching on somebody here, but I I just maybe Gino lights it up like he did in Seattle because he has got receivers on the outside, but uh I don't know. I with quarterback.

SPEAKER_00 42:26

I think with them going I think with them going Arvell Reese, they're gonna go to the opposite side of the ball with this next pick. And I it's way too high for Ty Simpson, which I'm also seeing uh middle of the first round of the Jets. I don't I don't like that pick at all for them.

SPEAKER_05 42:42

Yeah, I think Ty Simpson's a little crazy, but yeah. I mean, I get that he's he's probably gonna be a really good player, and then you got two good receivers, but he's still looking to find that quarterback, and that can just be a hell of its own. I hope Kenyon Sadiq is really good. He feels like a guy that's gonna be better in Madden than he is during his actual NFL career. If I was gonna be honest, and then Jordan Tyson to the Rams, uh, I like what you said about Heinz Ward, like that guy, if he can stay healthy, he's gonna be awesome. I have I see him going anywhere from like 7'8 to all the way uh in this range, but it feels like he's gonna be right outside the top 10 or at least top 15 at the very least. And he's a guy who's had significant injury history, and I really worry about that. Going up a level to play in the NFL. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:34

There's still, I mean, I wanted to maybe save this, but there's lots of talk of them potentially moving out of that 13 pick, and maybe he coming to your Raiders and saying, Hey, wouldn't wouldn't you like a pick before the Ravens?

SPEAKER_05 43:48

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 43:48

Wouldn't you like to steal whoever they want? And uh could maybe see something like that happening for for Max Crosby on draft day.

SPEAKER_05 43:57

Yeah, maybe. I think that could be interesting. We wanted to have the 14th pick. It'd be cool if we got the 13th. I saw us getting a receiver here to help with Mendoza. If we did have the 14th pick, so it makes sense if we're in this range, you know, where you have all these receivers going. I I worry about Jordan Tyson, but maybe Makai Lemon. Staying close enough to home. You know, LA to Vegas isn't too far. Um But I I want more than just the first round pick. So I'm curious to see what that entire package would look like. It'd definitely be two firsts.

SPEAKER_00 44:37

I don't think you can drop that value.

SPEAKER_05 44:39

Some some people are saying that uh they don't want to give up two firsts now. So we'll see. All right. Give me your next five.

SPEAKER_00 44:48

18. I got the Vikings going. Dylan Thieneman. Just a really athletic uh safety from Oregon. Uh fills the fills the Harrison Smith void that they're gonna be missing. Yeah, more white safeties. More white safeties, exactly. Um yeah, he's got the range, instincts, and ball skills. And yeah, he's he's gonna be great in Brian Flores' defense. So I think he's gonna be he's probably I mean, a lot of people have him mocked there. I I don't see a whole lot of other differences in that pick. But I'm also gonna go back-to-back safeties with the Panthers going Emmanuel McNeil Warren from Toledo, another athletic guy. He's a little bit more um, I don't want to say unproven, but just he's gonna be more of a project, I think. But he should he's got even more range and even more size and even more ball skills than Thineman. He's just a little less proven. So Panthers, I don't have a whole lot of needs, weirdly enough. Like they they played well this past year. I've seen Kenyon Sadiq uh drafted there. I just didn't have him falling here in my draft, so I went safety for him, and I think that's probably maybe where they're gonna go. Maybe if they don't decide to move out of that pick or something. Um, but I'm gonna keep it moving. I got Cowboys taking Keldrin Falk, the edge from Auburn. Uh betting on traits and upside. He's got the size, length, and versatility. And uh yeah, they they desperately need edge rusher help after moving on uh last season.

SPEAKER_05 46:34

Uh like that Michael Parsons. Go on defense, defense here. Just to break in for a second.

SPEAKER_00 46:40

Mm-hmm. Yeah, go build that defense. Your offense is is gonna be fine. Uh so yeah, really, really try to bring that out. And then um Steelers. I got it Ove Oh Oveya Vega? Owane, the Penn State guards. Oh, Lai Vega. Sure. I'm just gonna say Iwane from Penn State. The guard from Penn State. He's uh he's touted as one of the best uh interior offensive linemen in the draft. Um desperate need for the Steelers. They could go offensive tackle if they want to move uh uh Broderick Jones inside potentially, but yeah, I I think they're they'd get a steal if Awane fell to them at 21.

SPEAKER_05 47:31

Yeah. Uh they also you need to replace Isaac Somalu at guard, so that'd be a really good pickup for him. And he might be one of the better players in the draft, just the positional value of guard has him fall in here. Exactly. Yeah, um, I think you gotta do one more.

SPEAKER_00 47:50

Chargers. I've got them going Peter Woods from Clemson. Uh strong explosive. He can disrupt the running and the pass. And Jim Harbaugh knows or is kind of known for developing defensive linemen, so kind of feels like a perfect spot for him. Kind of grow into a force and be an impact up on uh at the up at that front.

SPEAKER_05 48:13

So yeah, yeah. I mean, this is your your bread and butter part of the draft. We're talking safeties, interior offensive linemen, and defensive linemen. I don't have as much, you know, here. Uh, I like the idea of the Panthers going safety. I saw a quote today, they said they wouldn't hesitate to draft a third straight receiver in the first round, and then I see a lot of people having Kenyan Sadiq go to them. They're another team that didn't really have production from tight end last year. So uh them going defense would make a lot of sense when that feels like that's the side of the ball that uh is hurt the most. And then the Vikings, that's just a perfect pick. I know it's yeah, it's cheesy and whatever, but going from Harrison Smith, who retired, to uh another white safety that that could be uh potentially huge for the fan base. I I do see receivers mocked uh uh the Vikings. I'm curious to see what actually happens there.

SPEAKER_00 49:20

The Vikings.

SPEAKER_05 49:21

Receivers. I'm seeing the Toledo Toledo safety and some stuff. I'm seeing Denzel Boston and some exercises. I mean, it's kind of all over the place when you get to the end of the first round, but yeah. Interesting. I like the picks. Yeah, Cowboys definitely need some interior line presence. I don't really have much else to add.

SPEAKER_00 49:41

Okay. I'm gonna keep it rolling. All right. Eagles, I got them going Caleb Lomu, the other Utah tackle. Um athletic, he fits in the zone. Yeah, maybe looking to smooth in space.

SPEAKER_05 49:55

Looking to uh fill in that Lane Johnson hole that will be there eventually. And he's been starting to rack up some injuries. He's a Hall of Fame right tackle, maybe the best right tackle of all time.

SPEAKER_00 50:08

Congrats to him, actually. He just he just got married.

SPEAKER_05 50:11

Oh congrats to him this past weekend, so yeah, we'll be 36, the start of the regular season. But yeah, definitely important for them to figure out how to move on from him. But anyway, go on with the rest of the five.

SPEAKER_00 50:26

He didn't allow a sack last year at all either. So he could be a long-term anchor for him. Um Browns, I got them going offensive tackle as well with Caden Proctor out of Alabama, just a massive big body dude, and just continue to share up that front with whoever you choose to bring in next year at quarterback. I got the the uh the Bears going Zion Young from Missouri. Uh haven't talked about him a whole lot, but he is a just a true edge rusher um and has shown production through his years. So yeah, I I think he's gonna be uh a good pick for the for the Bears here to go on the opposite side of um uh Swann's guy. Yeah, Montez Sweat.

SPEAKER_05 51:20

Could be a bit of a reach here based on some boards, but I like where your head's at.

SPEAKER_00 51:25

It's him or and I I actually put these guys back to back. I got the Bills taking a key Mesador from Miami. Uh-huh. He's kind of the other edge rusher that I was flip-flopping between. Uh Bills obviously need some some some help on their defensive line. Mesador's gonna get dinged a little bit because he's 25 years old. And it's he hasn't really shown productive production up into this year. So maybe a late bloomer. A lot of NFL teams look negatively upon that, but I I think that should that feels a need for the Bills. Uh maybe they flip-flop, but yeah, I I think those two teams go edge. And now we've got another tackle coming off the board from uh from Arizona State. Um Max Ian Anchor. Ion Anchor, I feel like Iron Anchor. Yeah. Something like that. Uh I got him going to San Francisco at 27.

SPEAKER_05 52:22

Yeah, I see San Francisco picking an offensive lineman, seems like it makes a lot of sense. Especially because of all of the other talent they draft, offensive linemen might fall pretty far. But also, uh they might be lucky, like these teams might be lucky to be able to pick these guys as late as you have them going. Because sometimes I think we overrate skill position players, whether it's defensive secondary or offensive skill position players, and teams want their uh their big beefy maulers. Definitely. Also, Bills drafting Messador makes a ton of sense. That's a team that's trying to win right now. They don't care how old he is. But always worried about those guys that are gonna be 25 as a rookie.

SPEAKER_00 53:07

Another guy right there, and I might as well talk about him. Uh Cassius Howell from Texas AM. Another defensive end uh who could go in the first round, potentially. I don't have him going in my first round. Um, but yeah, explosive, productive pass rusher that could maybe slot in if if uh the Bills like him a little bit better.

SPEAKER_05 53:28

Yeah. No, I get that. Uh I like the fits for everybody as far as uh positions, but again, you know, we start talking about offensive tackles, and you know, sort of second, third tier edge rushers, I start to I start to get a little lost in the sauce, not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_00 53:53

Yeah. No, I I I I do think the the Bills will go edge too, even with Rousseau and bringing in Bradley Chubb. Bradley Chubb is injury prone. Um, and just adding on a younger guy could could make things dangerous for this AFC East quarterbacks and quarterbacks around the league.

SPEAKER_05 54:15

So yeah, I'm seeing Keldrick uh Falk out of Auburn getting mocked to the Bills in this one I'm looking at. So makes sense at least uh for the position that you picked.

SPEAKER_00 54:28

If he falls, I think, yeah, I I think either the Bears or the Bills will scoop him up right around there.

unknown 54:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 54:35

Um I see you had him go to the Cowboys earlier. See what I mean? Like all the names and stuff. I'm like, oh no. All right, what's the last five? I'm shocked by this next pick, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 54:49

Aiden McDonald is who I'm taking. The Ohio State defensive tackle. Shocked. I have the Texans taking him, and actually a lot of people do. He's just he's a dominant run stuffer. He can control the line, and he fits D'Amico Ryan's system perfectly. Um I know they have so many other needs.

SPEAKER_05 55:09

They need offensive lines so bad, but you also have all of the offensive linemen that are graded for the first round going before. So make it would make sense for them to move up to like 20 or even 17. You can get from 28 to 17, not paid that big of a price. Go get a Monroe free freelan. Or 20.

SPEAKER_00 55:29

Even yeah, 20 and and and grab Lomu or Proctor or yeah, one of those guys. I wouldn't be shocked. So, yeah, just because I didn't do trades and all the other guys were off the board, I decided to go defensive tackle for them. Next I got the Chiefs taking Concepcion from from Texas AM, the wide receiver.

SPEAKER_05 55:51

Um another small fast guy.

SPEAKER_00 55:54

Another small fast guy.

SPEAKER_05 55:56

They seem to have a tight.

SPEAKER_00 55:58

Mm-hmm. Yeah. This is them kind of going back and and because they went corner early, I think they they might flip, go to the other side of the ball uh with this one. And yeah, you don't know. Well, is Rice set to return the beginning of the year? Rasheed Rice? I think so. Okay. He suffered a nasty injury, and he's also dealing with some legal stuff, I think, still.

SPEAKER_03 56:27

Are you in last year for Shea Rice? Was he not playing at the end of last year?

SPEAKER_00 56:32

Who got their who got their uh ACL torn by Mahomes?

SPEAKER_01 56:37

That was Rasheed Rice in 2024.

SPEAKER_05 56:40

Oh am I thinking of last year? Uh no, no, no. I d someone might have blown out their knee, but uh it wasn't Mahomes doing it. He was coming back last year from that injury.

SPEAKER_01 56:50

No.

SPEAKER_05 56:51

He got a concussion at the end of last year and they shut him down. Who's the no?

SPEAKER_01 56:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 56:59

Huh. Okay. Yeah? Yeah, going fast, small fast guys. That's uh that's where I'm going for Kansas City. And uh, yeah, I'm just gonna I'm gonna roll through these last three real quick. Uh-huh. I've got the Dolphins taking Colton Hood, Colton Hood from uh Tennessee, the corner. Uh-huh. I've got the Patriots taking Denzel Boston, wide receiver out of Washington with 31st pick, and I've got the Seattle Seahawks taking TJ Parker, the edge rusher from Clemson with the last pick.

SPEAKER_05 57:35

Yeah, I think the Denzel Boston pick makes a lot of sense. Obviously, Boston, they'll love them. Uh, no Ty Simpson in the first round for Will.

SPEAKER_02 57:44

Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_00 57:45

I could see the I mean, I could see the Cardinals potentially moving up. I keep hearing Cardinals buzz of them uh potentially taking him. And uh I think they could easily move up with that that early second round pick, jump up six spots or something, trade with Kansas City or trade with uh one of these other teams in here and uh and snagging him at the end of the first round. But yeah, I I don't think he goes to any of these these last five teams.

SPEAKER_05 58:18

Yeah, no uh uh consens it feels like a consensus pick for a lot of people. The second Notre Dame running back, Jadarian Price for Seattle. Not shit, yeah, not shitting on TJ Parker, but Clemson has a lot of these guys rated in the end of the first round, also. Yeah, they do.

SPEAKER_00 58:41

Um yeah, I Seattle's lost a good bit on defense as well. And I I just think there's a lot of running back depth that they could wait on. Um, I think they probably end up moving out of this 30-second pick, to be honest with you. Like I was saying, probably the Cardinals might move up, um, something like that. But yeah, I I really liked, as I already talked about, Mike Washington Jr. from Arkansas, um, and a few other running backs in this draft. So I I think they could snag one of those guys at the end of the s the end of the second round instead, and just keep keep drafting on defense, keep trying to bring in younger guys, uh, as they're gonna have to end up paying a lot of their their guys from last year. So keep getting younger, keep re uh rebuilding that uh that defense, and then just kind of snag guys wherever you can. So I like Jadarian Price a lot, but I have him going at the the top of the second round.

SPEAKER_05 59:46

Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense for him too. But uh yeah, Casey Concepcion in Kansas City feels like a guy they've been really trying, but him and Worthy together might be a little uh a little, what am I trying to say, redundant.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:02

I have a lot of I've seen a lot of people have Kansas City pick receiver first and then corner second.

unknown 1:00:07

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:08

Whether it's what Colton Hood or you know, one of those other corners rated in this area. Um and maybe it would make sense so they don't have to kind of go with the redundant pick here. Maybe Denzel Boston, but I don't know. Um we'll see. But yeah, I'd like it. You mock draft, man. I'm excited. Yeah. I'm excited for the real thing to happen. I want Fernando Mendoza to officially be a raider.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:37

Are you stressing about it at all? No.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:40

Do you think Okay? I'm seeing some people like I don't even know why they're asking him this. I noticed it while I was looking at the uh CF. Uh people are calling the Raiders, seeing where they stand, and he's like, I think they know where we stand, you know. John SpyTech, so I think we're fine. I just I just want it to be over with. When you have the number one pick, people don't talk about this enough as like a fan, because you don't have to actually do any of the work or whatever. But uh if it's a surefire thing, number one pick, you just want it to be over. Like when you had Trevor, I've I bet you felt the same way. You just want it to come and and happen and and be over. So that's kind of where I'm at.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:31

I remember that draft, it took it took the Jags like all of maybe two minutes to send that pick in, and then we didn't have another pick until like 21 where we took uh Etienne. But yeah, I was I was a little nervous. It's like, and the draft started, and the Jags have sent their pick in.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:53

You know, they they probably said no, don't fuck it up right up, don't fuck it up or early. But the NFL makes them wait for suspense. Yeah. Which is like something the NFL does. But I'm curious to see what trades we do actually get. If we do see a Max Crosby trade, if we do see an AJ Brown trade, if those those things wait for till later in the offseason, uh, what the big shakeups are, who's moving up and down the board. Is a team gonna move up and get Ty Simpson in the first round? Are they gonna wait till early second round? A lot of quarterback needed teams still sitting in the top of that second round. But you're talking about the first round day. I'm gonna be excited to talk about Mendoza as a Raider. I'm excited for it to happen. Way more worried about the rest of the draft goes. Because we still have a lot of holes and and needs to fill.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:41

So this is this is interesting for me too, because I've I think in my whole lifetime, we've never traded a first round pick. So my Jags not having a pick here is uh is interesting, but at least my lifetime as a as a fan, which probably began 2006, yeah, 2005, somewhere around there.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:04

A lot of high picks for you in that spot.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:06

Oh yeah, yeah, lots of lots of top tens, lots of top fives.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:11

Been there, buddy. Less so, because we always find our way to the middle of the pack, especially when we had Derek Carr. So it's nice to just have the first pick, get a quarterback, see what happens. And I I think this draft will have a lot of shake-ups and intrigue, honestly. Just because it seems like there is a lot of really highly graded players.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:33

Yeah. It's kind of weird. There's yeah, there's there's a lot of depth at certain positions like corner, I think is is you can go snack any of these guys in the top, I think the top 50 you'll be okay with. You can any of these offensive tackles pretty early on, you're okay with. Um yeah, wide receiver, go get your guy. And uh yeah, and a lot of top-end talent too. I I think um I think at least those top five to ten guys are all gonna be really productive and good in the NFL. So I'm excited to see where they go and what they can do.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:12

Yeah. No, exactly. Like wide receiver, there's four guys you could realistically see going in the top 15, 16 area, top half of the draft, uh, like you said, offensive tackle, they're gonna be littered throughout uh the first round, early second round, edge rushers. We we know about the top three, and then there's that really strong second group that could go all throughout the the later first round they were talking about. I'm curious to see if someone moves up for Sonny Styles because I think he is that special of a generational linebacker prospect with the athleticism with the tape.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:54

So he's compared to Devin Lloyd, who we mocked. I remember we had him mocked around uh like early teens. He was going anywhere from like 12 to 17 in most of our mocks. He ended up falling in my Jags at like 27. So stuff like that can happen as well.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:12

Yeah, of course. Caleb Downs being one of the best players in the draft. And also, that's another special thing about this draft. He got an interior offensive lineman that's one of the best players in the draft. The safety of running back, a linebacker, uh middle linebacker type guy. Like that's what do you do with the positional value versus best player available?

SPEAKER_00 1:05:36

And just realized I had three safeties going in the top twenty.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:40

Yeah. Exactly. That's probably not gonna happen. Yeah, that could. I mean, maybe the the other guys will go later in the draft, but uh yeah, we'll see. Caleb down's probably go pretty high, but all right, buddy. This is good. We'll come back, we'll preview it, we'll give the uh the first round recap and then we'll Go for the full weekend recap on Sunday night or something. Peace, buddy, uh, rest up because we got a lot of a lot of stuff to do next week.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:09

I'm just gonna be doing more mock drafts all night.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:13

Sounds like a good good uh good waste of time, but uh we'll be back. We love you guys. Thanks for listening from me Cole Switzer and Locksmith from Sick Willy Will I'm Folk the Lit His Made and Podcasting for all of you out there to make podcasts so special. We thank you. Peace. Peace.