Dynasty Rookie Draft Advice

'Slick Willy' Will Einfalt and 'The Lock Smith' Cole Smithson break down their favorite players and strategies for this years dynasty fantasy draft. If you're not playing dynasty fantasy football, you should be. Love y'all. Enjoy.

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SPEAKER_03 0:00

Hoy hoy to joy to joy joy.

SPEAKER_00 0:02

One, two, a check one, two. With two minutes to go, it's fourth and thirty-two. Hello and welcome back to the fourth and thirty-two podcast. I'm your host, Cole Smithson, the locksmith, and joining me. As always, it's What It's Man in Podcasting. It's slick Willy Will Einfault. He's got a big wedding coming up this week. Not his wedding. Not my wedding. But a friend's wedding. He'll be there soon enough. How are you doing, bud?

SPEAKER_01 0:40

Good. Good. Yeah, I'm I'm excited to uh have a couple days off and celebrate the happy couple.

SPEAKER_00 0:46

Who's the happy couple? Shout them out.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

Uh Riley and Page. Riley and Page. Two girls. Cool. No, not two guns. It's some Asheville shit, but uh.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Hey. Whoever you love, right? Uh no, but shouts to the happy couple. Uh I hope it all goes well. Uh our we just had our friend uh in multiple fantasy leagues with him, and very important to this podcast because he just joined our dynasty league because we had two teams drop out. But congrats to our good friend Chris Beza on his engagement.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

Yeah. Yeah, congrats. Uh the uh the pictures from Amsterdam were sweet and uh yeah, cheer for you guys.

SPEAKER_00 1:31

That man is very in love. And uh as two guys over here, I don't know where your situation is, but I am too. And it's uh loves in the air, man. Definitely.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Yeah, I'm looking at at places with my uh my significant other now.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

So yeah, um me and mine are re-signing our lease together. So obviously, you know, things going well on that front, but we're hitting that age, man. Late 20s, like people are about to start getting married. There's gonna be no time for vacations outside of that. I think everybody's gotta buckle up. In this economy, the jet fuel, what it costs now, oh my goodness. Can't even take spirit airlines there. Nope. Nope. It's gone. No. It's gonna, I I've heard it happens like this where it's just like, oh, nobody's gotten married, and then all at once. So I'm I'm looking forward to it. I think I got another friend around the corner, but uh put it off as long as possible, guys. Yeah, the long engagement's fun, you know? Really test out the the water before you dive into it. But uh, we're about to dive into the podcast here. We got a quick, quick one today. Thought we'd come on uh because our dynasty rookie draft starts Friday. We do an untimed draft, so everybody can kind of just get their picks in at their own pace. Hopefully it'll get done over the weekend. I know Will's got a busy one there, but we're just gonna rank some of the Dynasty rookies, talk about some sleepers we've got. Uh, we'll go through, I guess, a little bit of news going on right now in the NFL. Not too much. Uh, but shout out Devon A-chan. Got the bag.

SPEAKER_01 3:05

Yep. $64 million extension.

SPEAKER_00 3:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

I think is what I saw. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:10

Two years guaranteed. He got the $32 million guaranteed. Pretty good for a running back, and he's an awesome player. Miami needs to pay somebody, and they need somebody to, you know, prover put the proverbial asses in seats. So Achan's a great guy to pay, and he's just he's a pleasure to watch. Yeah. Yeah, he is. Yeah, on uh more Dolphins news, I thought there was two surprise undrafted rookie free agent uh retirements, and I want you to read the the tweet or whatever you saw because I thought that was funny.

SPEAKER_01 3:41

Uh yeah, I've already gone past it, but it was something along the lines of uh I'm a Miami Dolphins fan, and I I get it. I understand why I would do the same thing. And uh yeah, shout out to uh what's his name, Le'Veon Moss.

SPEAKER_00 3:55

Yeah, the Tech San M running back, but just decided the NFL wasn't for him during rookie minicamped. Kind of love that. Maybe he decided the Dolphins wasn't for him.

SPEAKER_01 4:03

And uh he might try his luck somewhere else.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

Yeah, no, that that I think they're gonna be the worst team in the league. I did see another Dolphins story just because we're on the Dolphins theme. Bobby Slowick, Dolphins OC, not a good sign the way he got ran out of Houston after one good year with CJ Stroud, but Malik Willis could spin the ball all over the field. Oh, I love the NFL offseason. We love we love all the cliches, and that's definitely a classic one. New offensive coordinator with their new quarterback singing their praises. Call it uh, they're calling it the Packers of the South. Yeah, sure. Exactly. And then uh we had another Squirrel White uh undrafted free agent with the Bears, also called a quits. There was no reason given for that one. I saw as of uh the latest news about it. Um just stepping away from the game. Kind of interesting when these guys don't give themselves a shot, especially because both those guys were starters on, you know, Florida State's not what it used to be, but fairly big programs in college football and definitely had a chance to make a roster or practice squad and just hung it up and moving on to the next chapter of their lives and wish him the best of luck.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

Yeah, changing financial reality is uh is a big theory because yeah, all these guys get so much money with the NIL now that they they come in, they see how intense the NFL rookie camps are where they're not guaranteed spots, and if they are, they're just gonna be paid uh much, much lower than maybe what they're used to and take a lot more physical toll.

SPEAKER_00 5:42

No, that's true. That's very interesting. I'm curious what Squirrel White made in NIL. I'm gonna see if I can uh find that right now. He was exciting in college and also would have been an awesome name. Uh I'm curious if I can see something right here. Yeah, he was with Tennessee and then Florida State. I'm seeing estimated at roughly 140,000. That's not crazy high. But yeah. No, I don't know. You never know because they can get money from like really any of these sources. Maybe that was his valuation, but have you made that over the course of four years? You know, making 500 grand in college or so, that's not bad. Yeah. It feels like I spent 500 grand. Yeah. All thanks to you, Will. I saw a picture of us. This is not to get too sappy, but you know, your phone just rolls. Oh, you don't have an iPhone. I got the memories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It rolls the memories on like the left side if you slide. But I saw that that awesome picture of us. I'm wearing the Cock shirt, you're wearing some Game Cock stuff, and I think I'm holding a flask. It's at a tailgate. Uh both wearing the white shirts. You know this picture. I do know this picture. And I was like, man, I have this saw in my head, and I've I'm very happy with my life. And, you know, we're 28 now, but I looked at it and I was like, oh, what I would give to be 21 again. Oh my God. What a what a world. That's when I could walk to the stadium. Mm-hmm. No, it's just it's just a different time. I just can't believe it was so long ago. Like seven years ago. That picture was? Eight years ago? It feels like yesterday. But look at us. Wow. Still, still uh still friends. And for the long haul here, buddy. Yeah. Um, what else we got on here? I don't really think there's much.

SPEAKER_01 7:42

Yeah, not NFL wise. Yeah. Did you want to say your final piece on Roussini and Fravel?

SPEAKER_00 7:50

Yeah, I kind of like the new theory. We we brought it up like every show at this point. I I mean the horse has been beaten to death and then revived and beaten to death again. Happy Easter. But anyway. Thanks for getting that on him. So that was a smart person joke. But I will say I like the new theory because both of them are hanging out with their partners. Obviously, they embarrassed them publicly. There's this whole big scandal around it. Probably not the best look, but nobody's getting divorced and it doesn't seem like there is a vindictive partner out there. Maybe we don't know the entire in and ins and outs of the situation, but a lot of people online now speculating the the husband and wife knew about it. Even if they didn't know specifically about that affair, maybe they have an open sort of situation. They but I I think it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I could see it. I don't think he's the father of the child. Or yeah. But it is weird that she was pregnant and they went out on that boat for three hours. It really is the story that never uh or keeps on giving, you know. I still love all of her quotes. We're going through those. That's great. The one, the one where they were, it was during COVID and they're on like a barstool zoom together. Did you see that one? No. And Frabel and uh Dave Portnoy, he's obviously like a big Pat's fan and a mess of a human being himself, but what is it? Barstool, Zoom, Frabel. It's it's she says Okay, I'm listening to it right now. Hold on. Okay, this isn't the one I was thinking about, but this is also damning. What is something you would close your eyes to do? It's like family feud situation, and she goes, having sex with your husband or wife. Tough. There's another one where she said something and he like went into it. You know what I mean? Like, uh, what does a woman want? There's something like that. And it's like just kiss her, and Frabel's like, okay, I'll, I'll, I'm into that, or something like it's I'm doing I'm not doing it justice, but there's another one where they're on the same thing. And it was I don't know. They they've been hooking up for a while, whatever. But it's a fun story. And I kind of liked her on podcasts and stuff. I'm gonna miss her being around the NFL. I think it might be good for the Pats.

SPEAKER_01 10:17

The Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_00 10:18

No, the Super Bowl slump is gonna be overshadowed by this story and they could just kind of lock in and Yeah, but but here's why it's why it's bad is if they have the classic Super Bowl hangover and now they got the first place schedule and they have the hard season, they go may gets hard for a couple games ago, like seven and ten. That story is just gonna keep coming up and keep coming up and keep coming up. And I think that's and they got the Seahawks week one. I did see that. Yeah. Let's see if their offensive line is is ready for it. Uh quick. Uh just everything we know right now. What's the line for that game? I already saw it. I but it's gonna move by August. Uh I guess you can well, what is it?

SPEAKER_01 11:04

I think it'll go up to six.

SPEAKER_00 11:05

It's at four and a half now. I was gonna say like five and a half, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

That makes sense. I think I think it'll be close to a touchdown. And a lot of people are gonna be in on the paths. We'll see about that. I'm excited for gambling to come back. Um, I think it's time to dive into the dynasty stuff. Yeah, I just don't like gambling on basketball. I'm gonna be honest.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

No, I keep missing. I needed LeBron to score 20 the other night. He missed a free throw late. No, yeah. And then yeah, I needed uh Jared Allen to score another bucket in a game, I think last game. Couldn't do it. That game is exciting. Caps Pistons. Yeah. Tonight, yeah, this one went to overtime and maybe a no-call foul at the end. I don't know. He kind of got tripped and pushed.

SPEAKER_00 11:53

I I just I like watching it as a fan. Yeah, it just doesn't uh do it for me the same way. But yeah, let's dive into these uh rookie uh rankings. Let's do it. Yeah, so I think we should start with like the the top tier guys, maybe discuss what our top five, ten is, and then maybe some steals in the later rounds. We're going super flex, uh 12 team standard league.

SPEAKER_01 12:22

Perfect. Yeah, that's that's pretty much what I was gonna say. I I tiered these out um because I just I found easy lines to draw and uh kind of group a bunch of these guys together and yeah, I I I we are doing super flex, so it you're gonna see quarterbacks ranked a little bit higher than maybe they should.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

Yeah. I think Ty Simpson's ranked too high on whatever board you're looking at. That's where I'm gonna start. I know quarterbacks are just at such a premium, but I think there's a chance he never plays.

SPEAKER_01 12:52

I'm looking at one and it's it's got him eighth. I've got him kind of in my flyers tier, a little bit further down, maybe on the flex. I wouldn't take him with a first round pick. No. No. I mean, it's a good place to start. Do you think McVeigh likes him?

SPEAKER_00 13:10

I think the big question. I think there's some questions about that because Les Sneed, the GM, definitely had more of a relationship with Ty Simpson and his family. Obviously, he likes him enough to not like burn the whole farm down or whatever, but I I think McVay knows, and this is a point I've heard other people make, like people with way more knowledge than me. McVeigh could go find the best veteran quarterback that wants to play with them every single year for the rest of his career. Look at what he's done with Stafford. He's turned Stafford into a Hall of Fame player. Let's be honest about it. He got Jared Goff to a Super Bowl. I'm not saying Goff's bad, but like we've seen him kind of hold back the lines at times. I just don't think he's that talented of a player. He's one of these guys that didn't start enough games in college, which is that is like the number one barometer of how good you are in the NFL typically. Is how many games you start in college? Mr. Bisky, one year starter, failed miserably as a number two pick. You know what I mean? So I just think they they took him too high.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

Well, I was gonna say the only time it's really worked out has been Josh Allen, and that took a lot of stuff behind the scenes. But he started for more than what he played a decent amount of games, right? Did he not? It wasn't too much. He's kind of the lowest bar of where it's it's really worked out. Well, he's Cam Newton athletically.

SPEAKER_00 14:30

So where Ty Simpson is not. Yeah, and and Josh Allen is the exception that proves the rule, a super inaccurate guy with a cannon of an arm that figures it out. Like that never happens. Yeah. So that's kind of where I'm at. But somebody's gonna take Ty Simpson too high, and then somebody behind them is gonna get one of these receivers that has a little bit higher of a ceiling. But all right, let's let's uh go through. What do you want to do? Top three, top five. I think top three seems kind of set, right?

SPEAKER_01 15:04

Yeah, top three is where I have my my tier one. It's the it's the three. It's Mendoza, it's love, and it's uh Carnell Tate. Um, all the number one guys at their position, all guys that I could see playing in the NFL for a very long time. Jeremiah Love's only 20 years old. Um, I know he's not built like Derrick Henry, uh, but he's got a chance to be a 10-year starter. I think the values with Mendoza, too, because even though he might not start this year, he could be a 15-year starter if he puts it all together. And at least fantasy-wise, I don't I don't see him going like nuclear, like a Joe Burrow and just having a whole bunch, but I see him being a guy you can play in that second quarterback spot uh very comfortably for a long time.

SPEAKER_00 15:48

Exactly. 100% Kirk Cousins, like like in his prime, which I people will mock that comparison, but if he's Kirk Cousins, like look how much money that guy's made. It he's got a little bit more of that clutch clutch gene just from what we've seen with Indiana. Maybe you have some playoff success if the Raiders can build a real team around him. And obviously, I'm a Raiders fan, but I I agree. I don't think Mendoza's gonna be a quarterback one anytime soon if he is in the NFL. I don't think the running thing, people are overhiking that coming into the league. I think he'll pick up some first downs and stuff. He's not gonna run like he did at Indiana. Like if he's like they want him to. No, don't let him get hit. He's lightly built, you got Genty, you pick up Mike Washington. I I think if we can actually get him some weapons here over the next couple years, this could be a really solid quarterback you have going forward. But do you think he's the number one player in the draft? Because me and my dad talked about this uh to let everybody in on our fantasy league, even though nobody cares. But we do a lottery system, and I I I swear it wasn't rigged. I I felt dumb picking out his name. Will's mad because he had the worst team in the league and he got the second pick. My dad won the lottery, got the number one pick. It just it's how the cookie crumbled. I I he had he had the third highest odds or whatever. Uh everything else went in order. How much did he give you? No, what's the number? He didn't give me life. Well, he gave me life. No, but he's going Jeremiah Love, even as a Raiders fan, with Mendoza on the board. We've discussed it. He's 20 years old. I know he's in this Cardinals offense, but the Cardinals have had some success with like James Conner and stuff like that. And just that age and how talented he is. I just think he's the best prospect on the board here, especially when, in just in my dad's situation, he doesn't need that second quarterback right now, or if he'd go with Mendoza, he's kind of got quarterbacks already in tow. So if he didn't have that second quarterback, I think you've got to go Mendoza. That's what happened to our you know, friend of the show, Jacob Burkar last year. He picked Cam Ward one because he had to. I ended up trading up for Ash and Gente, trading a whole lot of assets uh for him just to be a homer. But um, I think uh if you're not in that situation, in this super flux situation, or you're in a one-quarterback league, you gotta go, you gotta go love. He's clear one-one.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

Yeah, that's fair. I mean, he he has the potential to be a top five fantasy running back. Um he might get some some uh some uh some touchdowns vultured from the likes of Connor and um who's the vulture that they're Algier, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:42

Yeah, Algier's famous for that, but yeah, and he and is uh uh doesn't he have a coordinator who loves to give touchdown vulture touchdowns?

SPEAKER_01 18:53

Yeah, yeah, I think you're right.

SPEAKER_00 18:55

I'm forgetting who it is.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

It's but love what love can do in the passing game is what what sets him out, and he's got a phenomenal vision and breakout speed, so yeah, I mean he should be at the top of most people's list.

SPEAKER_00 19:08

Yeah. I I just think with the age here, like he's so young. The comparisons to Reggie Bush I really like because that was my favorite player growing up. And if Reggie Bush was in the NFL now, I think he'd honestly be a lot better of a player than he was in the NFL, and he was a pretty good player. Yeah. And he had that one really awesome fantasy year with the uh Lions. Teams know how to use guys like this more. I wouldn't be shocked if he was lining out lining up out wide at times and being used as a pure passer, like if they have Algier on the field or just go to an empty set. So the possibilities are endless. I don't think this Cardinals regime's gonna be there for a long time, but even if there's two kind of murky years, he's still 22. Yeah.

unknown 19:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:54

So I I think I think love's the guy. In a super flex, I think Mendoza's gotta be too. Are you going Mendoza? Do you have this settled yet?

SPEAKER_01 20:02

I don't know. I kind of want to trade out of the pick if love's not available.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

Yeah, you gotta start chopping that around.

SPEAKER_01 20:09

Yeah. Uh let's talk about Carnell Tate, because he's the other guy that I guess I'm kind of torn between. Um, this is a very wide receiver heavy class. Um Tate's at the top. He's the number two at Ohio State behind Jeremiah Smith, but he's got the strong hands and body control, and he's gonna be the clear cut number one for Cam Ward. And Titans taking him at fourth really shows that they're ready to use him. Um and I I think he's gonna be very, very good for fantasy.

SPEAKER_00 20:39

Last time the Titans drafted a receiver in the top five, I believe it was Corey Davis. Ooh. And that didn't work out very well. I think they're I hate to say this, but I don't think he's gonna be a bad player. Because he makes so much sense here. I wouldn't want the third pick if Love Mendoza goes one-two. That's fair. Also, maybe let's talk about how it can get Mendoza from you.

SPEAKER_01 21:05

You want Mendoza?

SPEAKER_00 21:07

Uh, I don't really have any assets to trade unless you want like future firsts. I have a lot of young players. We can maybe do that. I want some 27 firsts. And that's fine. I think I think we might be able to, because I need a second quarterback. So I think I might be in the mix. Okay. Let's talk about this. Uh, but regardless, uh I think Carnell Tate's gonna be a really solid number two receiver at his peak. I don't know if he's a true number one. I know he got drafted like it. I kind of like the flyers on uh on Jordan Tyson or McTye Lemony. I if I had to have my pick, I would feel forced to pick Carnell Tate. Let's just say it goes chalk, love Mendoza. I think you you're forced into it because of the situation, but I think there's a chance that he's one of those guys that has a Really strong first year, and then kind of like ends up being a 900-yard, seven touchdown guy for a lot of his career. A lot of highlight plays, but I just I'm not in love with it. I something that really struck me was the way that Malik Neighbors was talking about him and other receivers. Steve Smith like talked about Carnell Tate when he got drafted that high. And I thought that that made an impression on me. And I think there's maybe some more value here. I do guys later in the draft. And then also Jordan Tyson has a if he if he's Odell Beckham and he could stay healthy, and there's a lot of ifs. Shucks definitely has a chance to be a better quarterback than than Ward. And I don't know why he couldn't be the number one in New Orleans. I know Olave's there, but if he's that good.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

Olave's only there for one more year. That's fine. It's Tyson's injury concerns that kind of pushed him a little bit down from uh this top tier. But I I want to come back to what you said about Tate. You think he could be a a a good number two? And I I do think immediately if if Titans decided to go with uh with one of the top receivers in next year's draft, that he'd immediately become the number two. So I do see what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00 23:20

Um or if they traded for a guy or something, I just uh I don't know who would fit with him perfectly, but he was perfect in the number two role at Ohio State. Yeah. Find Jeremia Smith. So I I just think that's kind of where he slots in the NFL. Uh maybe I'm wrong. You know, he has a Justin Jefferson arc and he's just this amazing number one player. I I that's why I I feel bad for his uh who's at whoever is at third, because I feel like you're stuck. You gotta pick him because you can't go pick the injury concerned Jordan Tyson. But there's a chance that one of these other guys behind him is just a better fantasy receiver. And it kind of always happens like that. Like Mikhail Lemon, if he I mean, Howard Roseman, first round receivers, does it does he have a blind spot as a GM? Is there a chance it does he doesn't make it work that he's a little crazy? But I kind of like when my receivers are a little crazy.

SPEAKER_01 24:17

So they're definitely moving on from AJ Brown, so he'll have a chance to to move in and and play significant minutes. Um minutes.

SPEAKER_00 24:26

Yeah. Snaps. I know it's basketball season still, but no, I I there's just for me, there's real value in the in the second-tiered receivers here.

SPEAKER_02 24:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

Get it. If you could potentially trade out of three to five and just kind of get the guy that falls to you out of that receiver group and pick up more assets, I kind of like it. Sounds like you're trying to talk me into your pick. I'm not. I'm I don't have a first rounder this year. You know I'm six? No, unfortunately. Oh yeah. That's why I said it's gonna be like impossible for me to get Mindos. I'm gonna have to sell the farm again, but I kind of might be interested. Uh how many times could he sell the same farm for more raiders of disappointing years? No, Ron has six because I traded a one for DeAndre Swift. Okay. Yeah, so my dad is one and six. But anyway, that nobody cares about your fantasy league. What do you think about Mikhail Lemon, though? Like, yeah, I like him a lot. Do you agree with what I'm saying though? There's a chance that these guys, one of these guys, is the better of the three fantasy players at least.

SPEAKER_01 25:45

Yeah, no, I I've had him strongly in tier two. Um, maybe even uh Concepcion from for the Browns, potentially in that spot. Um might have drawn the line a little early looking at kind of what people are projecting uh him to do. But yeah, no, I I I like uh I like Tyson and Lemon a lot. I think you you can't really go wrong either way. You're gonna get pretty much the same player. Um you mean fantasy-wise, fantasy-wise, yeah, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, you're gonna pretty much have similar statistics. You may one guy maybe I'm thinking Tyson may become more of a a streaky, like he'll he'll go game to game, he'll have games where he's popping for 20 plus, and then he might have a game where he's less than seven, something like that. Um, where Lemon may be more consistently right around the the 10 to 15 range. Um but yeah, no, I I definitely like both of those guys, and I think they're they're perfectly ranked.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

Yeah. But I think the the top five's kind of like sealed up. So let's talk about the second half of this first round. Like, where do you think the the next group falls? Because this is where people have like Jadarian Price, who's the Seahawks drafted at the end of the first round, Casey Concepcion, you got Ty Simpson, Kenyon Sadiq, Omar Cooper here, Eli Stowers, who I'm shocked is on this list at 11. But that's like there's some value here, but there's just a lot of question marks. Honestly, I think this there's a reason you want 27 draft picks because this is a fairly weak draft class.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

I had I had Price in tier two. Um it is kind of rare to have the second running back um from a team. Uh he wasn't even a starter at his at his own college to be this high, but the Seahawks, they they need him. Zach Charbonnet is going to be recovering from that knee injury. Um he's gonna be able to produce immediately. And Charbonnet is also set to hit free agency after next season. So we saw them move on from um from Kenneth Walker, who won uh Super Bowl MVP, and I think they're ready to just kind of keep keep uh keep finding lower priced running backs to fit into their system while they're gonna pay out other players. So yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 28:07

The thing I'm worried about with Seattle, obviously Kubiek's gone, went to my Raiders, but is there a chance that they just are a running back by committee team and that's what's gonna work with this offense? And then you don't really get the true fantasy value. Like we saw Walker had that incredible run late, but a lot of that was because Charbonnet was hurt. You know, I think Kalani showed some stuff in like the NFC Championship game. He'll probably get some touches, especially as like a out of the bat out of the backfield kind of guy. So if you need a running back, the drop-off is pretty steep. Uh, but I think I might if you're not gonna get love, I I think I might want to just take flyers on these second round, third round running back kind of guys. Okay. Honestly, in mind. I'm worried about the price for price, honestly. That's right. I just think it's a little high.

SPEAKER_02 29:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:03

So I think if you're gonna be in this range, I I think you want to hope you get Sadiq. I'm not in love with the idea that he's on the Jets, but Sadiq or Cooper could be really solid fantasy players in this spot. Concepcion, I mean, he has a chance to be like a waddle, Tyreek Hill type player, I guess, if if he can figure out the drops thing, Cleveland can have some competent quarterback play. And we're projecting forward, you know, so like Cleveland can figure out their quarterback situation next year in the draft or something like that. But this this second half of the first round, like I kind of like Stowers too.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

He is uh he's you do like Stours. Yeah, yeah, drafted by Philly. He's gonna move in and uh and uh become just the immediate next slot guy. Um fuck, why am I blanking on their tight end? Oh, Goddard. Goddard. Yeah, Goddard's always in he's been injury prone. He's um he struggled at times. So yeah, I think Stours is gonna be able to find some nice playing time. And they're pretty much the exact same player, too. So yeah, once Goddard's contract is up, I think they're ready to move on.

SPEAKER_00 30:16

Yeah, because you don't want to pay a tight end when you're paying everybody else the way they are. What do you think about so you think Simpson should be this late first round kind of guy or depends. It depends on your team.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

If you need a quarterback, yeah. Yeah, I don't like taking him this high. But he's not gonna play for years.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

If you need a quarterback, you're still gonna need a quarterback. That's true. That is true. So, I mean, we have really deep benches, so it's not like you can't stash him. We get the taxi squad. I'm honestly curious. I c I kind of want to ask everybody if we want to add a couple more bench spots because I the leagues, there's just so many more players in entering the league. I think it wouldn't be too terrible.

SPEAKER_01 31:00

I could add one more. I'm currently full. Yeah, that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_00 31:04

Like I'll go on.

SPEAKER_01 31:07

Nothing, nothing. Never mind, doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 31:10

I was just gonna say I I always recommend anyone playing Dynasty, use your taxi squad, get those undrafted free agents right after after the draft. I don't want to, you know, uh give too much game away if anyone in our league's listening. But I got Tori Horton and Kyle Manung in that situation last year, two guys who look like pretty good players. I know she'd stayed in Seattle, but Horton had some real flashes as a receiver and a return guy, and then Monunguy might be running back one if he improves a little bit in Chicago with Swift kind of being a change of pace guy. So you can get some real talent on the taxi squad if you play your cards right. But uh thoughts on the Jets guys, Sadiq and Cooper?

SPEAKER_01 31:54

Um, yeah, it's it's tough. I don't I I've not been a very big fan of Gino after last year. Um, but they both can have had pretty good impact. Like this might not be their year, it may be next year, whenever they can go get one of these good quarterbacks to fill in. But um yeah, yeah. Sadiq worries me. I keep seeing references of Kyle Pitts, which I don't love.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

Yeah, he's just the athletic freak. Uh I don't love it either. I think Cooper will be good though.

SPEAKER_01 32:31

Yeah. Yeah. He's also just gonna have to play second fiddle to to Garrett Wilson, too.

SPEAKER_00 32:36

There's a chance they just put up numbers this year because they're just dropping Gino back, throwing the ball a ton because they don't have anybody on their defense. You know. So there's some chance for some production right away. I I will say Denzel Boston's uh ranks pretty high. I don't think he's gonna be a good NFL player. I've kind of hung my hat on either one of the Browns receivers is not gonna be good, or they're both not gonna be good. I I don't see a a world where they're both awesome just because it's the Browns. Just because it would it, I don't know. I just have that feeling as a fan of a bad team, like this is a thing that's not gonna work out. And if if you had to bet on somebody, I'd probably bet on Concepcion.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

Yeah, that's fair. That's probably where I'd put my money to. Um, yeah. I just like I like Boston's size. Yeah, slow.

SPEAKER_00 33:34

If he can make it work for him, yeah. Jump ball guys going into the league. We've seen that so many times. Somebody called him, oh, who's the Browns bust? That was that kind of player. Oh my god, there's so many of these guys that go through the league. Like Nikhil Harry from the Patriots, but there's a Browns specific guy who was like a jump ball first round receiver. Oh my god. Browns, first round pick history. I will find this. But anyway, gone. Uh anything else you want to say about the second half, the first round? Anybody that's a sleeper that's kind of ranked in the second round that you think people should be higher on?

SPEAKER_01 34:13

Yeah, we're kind of getting into the the flyer guys.

SPEAKER_00 34:17

Um it's not a it's not the best draft ever. Yeah, it's it's not Corey Coleman. Ah, yeah. From Baylor. Yeah. Big jump ball guy, career NFL statistics, 61 catches for 789 yards, first round pick. Oof. Just saying. Thanks. Um yeah, it's not great. Um I think I because I kind of want him, I have the first pick of the second round. I kind of really want Nick Singleton to be there. Hmm. Explosive player. Okay. Uh second fiddle at Penn State. Catron Allen has like the most rush yards ever from Penn State. He's also a guy that I'm pretty high on because he went to Washington where there's no clear starter. Same situation here with Nick Singleton where do we really trust Tony Pollard? He's kind of become irrelevant in Tennessee, dealt with injuries. They have Tajay Spears, very similar type of back, but he's I think he's got a little bit more size and more in-between-the-tackle ability there. And I just I think Singleton could be one of the better rookie running backs outside of love. Yeah. And 22, he's not old. Like, I I think there's some real value there for both the Penn State guys, and I probably am gonna go in that direction, unless they're both taken way earlier than they're projected.

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Unfortunately, you got the other guy, but uh for the Broncos, Jonah Coleman.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

Oh my god. I could be promising. But I'm terrified of Jonah Coleman. Yeah. No, because I I RJ Harvey was a big trade piece for me because all last year, what did I hear? Oh, Sean Payne's gonna give him 300 touches. Sean Payne's gonna give him three 300 touches. And he did have a very productive fantasy year, but the only reason he did was because uh, oh my God, we're so out of football season practice. J.K. Dobbins. J.K. Dobbins got hurt, which of course he did because he's J.K. Dobbins, but RJ Harvey is averaging like two and a half yards of carry. Yeah. And he's a great receiving back. And I think they're they're worried that he can't be a between the tackles guy. And Jonah Coleman is a bruising running back, and he's a good player. And they drafted him what in the second round? Uh so they spent more draft capital on him than but I I think they drafted him higher than they drafted RJ Harvey, which is kind of my point. And he he was really good in college. Uh fourth. I'm shocked, actually. I thought he went higher. No, whatever. It it worries me. He's a good player. Could have both. Had 25 touchdowns the last two. You could start both of them. I'm like, God, I've been in that situation. I have too many bears. I have too many Broncos. I have four bears. And I don't know what to do with myself. But I I think Jonah Coleman could be pretty good. I'm worried they're just gonna go to a running back by committee situation there, and it's gonna fuck up my RJ Harvey stock that I got. But yeah. But this that's why I kind of I'm not super high in price, because there's some real running back value here in the second round, and there kind of always is. Like uh what Cain Scattable went super late in our draft last year. Like I said, I got my nun guy on uh an undrafted free agency. Like running backs, late-round running backs always pop, like somebody does.

SPEAKER_01 37:50

Let's talk about the three that are right here. You already mentioned Kaitron Allen, but yeah, he's another one kind of going to a committee where he could win the backfield uh if he plays well. Mike Washington um is gonna be behind Genty, but um I mean you can handcuff him because you do have Genty. Uh and then Emmett Johnson has uh showed a lot of promise for the Kansas City Chiefs, uh got a lot of high praise um from Andy Reed. He could be a guy that uh you could take a flyer on and it might work out. But another guy sitting behind uh an established guy with Kenneth Walker.

SPEAKER_00 38:30

So Emma Johnson. I the the Kenneth Walker thing really blows a hole in that, but that might be someone that doesn't pop right away, but that you just kind of put in your taxi squad, leaving them under your bench, and and might end up working out pretty well for you. Or if there's an injury, Kenneth Walker gets hurt a lot. Yeah, didn't get hurt last year, but that's not the norm for his career. So that's why the the second round for running backs, it's just that's where I want to be drafting them. Okay. Outside of love, obviously. I'm not gonna lie, the receivers in these these spots. I I think you're just as good in this draft going with undrafted free agents as you are picking any of these guys. There's just so many it is receiver heavy, but once you get to I don't like Denzel Boston. He's the sixth uh receiver on this ranking I'm looking at right now. And then you got Antonio Williams, Washington, like maybe it was just Clemson falling apart last year, and there's a good chance they're throwing the ball all around the field with with Daniels. But Chris Bell, Jeremy Bernard, buried on the depth chart in Pittsburgh, Chris Brazzle, who's just like a tall speed guy going to Carolina, Zachariah Branch, who I like as a gadgety player. I don't know if he's ever gonna be that big of a fantasy. He's probably my favorite on that I just mentioned here.

SPEAKER_01 40:04

But Ted Hurst and then both of the Ravens guys. Oh, and Bryce Lance.

SPEAKER_00 40:10

Deshaun Stribling drafted way too high by the 49ers. Yeah, Bryce Lance. I but I like the for receivers, kind of like how the running backs I like the second round guys. I think I like these third round undrafted free agent receivers. Yeah. More for the value, at least. Yeah, I think I'm with you there. But yeah, where are where are your tiers at? Like what uh where do you see these guys?

SPEAKER_01 40:36

I just threw them all on the the tier four Flyers.

unknown 40:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:39

It's got Surrat, it's got Boston, Stribling, Coleman, Chris Bell, Johnson, Singleton, Bernard. I had uh Oscar Delp, the uh New Orleans tight end in this class. Um, and then yeah, a couple other guys that I've that I've already mentioned. But yeah, it's just kind of a massive just flyers, like you're gonna pick these guys maybe end of the second, uh going into the third round. And yeah. Just whoever you like, really. That's the big thing with Dynasty is you find guys that you really like watching um because you're gonna have them the rest of their career if if everything goes right.

SPEAKER_00 41:16

So exactly. No, I I love Delp and Jolly, the two tight ends here. Just situationally, like Jolly is a chance because you're Jags guy that's on the Broncos tight end. Uh Evan Ingram. Evan Ingram, that not the best year last year with the Broncos. I think there's a chance that Jolly takes over that spot. If not this year, then next year, like if they move on from Ingram and then Delp in New Orleans, you got a young quarterback that's really shining. He needs a security blanket, Johnson, he's how long as you can sit behind him if he's flashing. Like I I like these guys. This is this is a meat and potatoes draft. Just try to get a guy that will stay in their team for a while. Because I think there's gonna be a lot of these guys sitting in free agency in about two, three years. Yeah. Gotta kind of find the dines and the rough. I agree. But where where are you at on the quarterbacks?

SPEAKER_01 42:12

Yeah, this is this is all tier five. It's it's quarterbacks and and last guys even worth mentioning. Um yeah, Aller, Beck, Klubnik. Uh, they're just they all could have starting time, but I I don't really like any of them. Did you see the quote about Aller? Uh either today or yesterday. Yeah. That Mike McCarthy was basically like, yeah, we're we're uninstalling everything he's ever learned, uh, and just gonna we're gonna teach him the right way. Because I guess Penn State didn't rebuilding him or something like that.

SPEAKER_00 42:46

He's a machine. Yeah. I saw that. There's a chance he guess he plays, uh but I that's not what they're taxi squad guys, him and Beck. Yeah. Like if you're playing Carson Beck in 2026, your your fantasy season is not going how you want it to go. But I might be in the unfortunate position where I kind of gotta pick up one of these quarterbacks and just hope for the best. I c I kind of like I didn't like him in college. I don't think he's a very good player, but Cade Klubnick, is there a chance he's just a better NFL player than he was in college?

SPEAKER_01 43:22

He was bad. Oh, he was I know that whole Clemson team fell apart, but I just I did not like I did not like the way he played. Um but at a training camp, he's got real swagger. That's what I heard. I can't remember who said it, but yeah, one of the wide receivers like he's gonna he's got a walk to him. He thinks he's hot shit. So That's good. Sometimes that works out. You kind of want that in a in a quarterback, but Yeah, no, you do.

SPEAKER_00 43:56

Messmeyer, Talen Green. Oh, Messmeyer and Casey. He's buried on that depth channel. He might be on a roster or something for years. But uh Taylon Green, I think, I mean, that's a taxi squad guy. I think that's where we're at now with the pod. We'll wrap up with taxi squad, undrafted free agent, flyer, maybe late third round. Third round guys, you got you want to stash. I think Cole Payton could be Taysom Hill. And that could be super fun. Okay. So I if you're gonna go quarterback, I dude, I'm gonna laugh at whoever drafts Carson Beck. Um but I think Cade Klubnick, Cole Payton, Talon Green, if you don't have quarterbacks, fuck it. Pick them all up, put them on your taxes but I'm serious. Gross. Yeah. Fuck it. You won't. You won't. No, but if you can get out of second and third round picks here, you got a friend who's like a Georgia fan and wants Sakurai Branch or something, do it. Do it. Go get later picks. I think next year and the year after, like we might just have a more full draft. But um, there's some fun taxi squad guys. I think Bryce Lance might be a really good one.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

I'm just looking for fun names. I gotta get me some John Michael Gillenborg. I don't even know who that is.

SPEAKER_00 45:18

It's a tight end for the Chiefs. John Michael Gillenborg. Definitely don't pick whoever the Jags drafted. Which one? A tight end. Drafted two.

SPEAKER_01 45:28

Draft the second guy. Don't draft the first guy. First guy just is gonna be a blocker.

SPEAKER_02 45:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:35

Um I can't. There's some other guys. I think I think there's a chance Jacoby Lane, this might be some Homerism with my uh USC fandom, but he might be the guy that can actually do the Rashad Bateman role or the Dondre Hopkins role and do it well. He is a jump, I know I just said jump ball guys don't work, but usually those first round guys didn't translate to the NFL the same way. He is a jump ball machine. He had double digit touchdowns two years ago. He was awesome. Jacoby Lane for B to see. He's on the Ravens. I think he could really fit into that offense. Um people are really high on Adam Randall, too, just if Derrick Henry retires, the running back they have there. Um Kalen Black, he'll be a he'll be a fun taxi squad guy. He could be awful in the NFL, and you could have a chance to have a starting running back in a Shanahan offense.

SPEAKER_01 46:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 46:30

With him. They draft him super high. They love him. Um just get lost in the mix. Yeah, 100%. Talen Green, that's a good one. Anybody anybody you really like here at the bottom of these lists.

SPEAKER_01 46:43

I like both of the bells. I like Chris Bell for Miami. Um, he might not be available this late. I see him going a lot sooner. But uh Skyler Bell for the Bills, uh, I think he can make some some impact there. Um he's gonna be, again, buried like all these guys. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 47:05

No, it's not bad. Those those aren't bad names. Yeah, the other Bell I'm seeing go way higher, but I don't even know. He was drafted late, wasn't he? Yeah, but I think the Dolphins just have such a dearth of wide receivers. You might be you might be smart just to stash Dolphins just because anybody might play for they might be guys you can play this year, but long term. Are they really gonna be the guy? I don't know. Um yeah, I think there's there's a lot of Brennan Thompson with the Chargers. Could he be what they wanted Quinn Johnson to be, even though he did have a good year last year? I don't think they're gonna want to pay him. He's got that first year or fifth year option coming up. Are they gonna pick it up? He's been inconsistent. Maybe Brendan Thompson's the flyer running down the field and a Mike McDaniel, just in Herbert offense. Like that could be fun. He's a tall speed guy. Um I think that's pretty much all I got. Maybe what do you think about Jamari Taylor running back? Is there a chance that he's something?

SPEAKER_01 48:14

Uh yeah, he's undrafted coming out of Virginia. Um he's a pass catching guy, so not really an in-between the tackles guy, but that's pretty valuable. We're we're a full PPR league, so uh pass catching backs are are definitely a little bit more valuable. So yeah, there's a chance.

SPEAKER_00 48:35

I'm not a big fan of Chris Rodriguez, so we didn't talk about uh Malachi Fields with the Giants with Juan Dale being gone. He he moves really well for how big he is. The guy out of Notre Dame, and you can get him pretty late. Yeah, I'm not even seeing him on here. I have him 27th on the list I'm looking at. But just a potential in an offense. Yeah, okay. They might not be a super high end passing offense, but there's some chance he he like really plays this year. Um, Playborn went to the Vikings. There's just do we really trust what they have as running back beyond this season? Obviously, you know, things change. Guys come in, go out, but you're really just at here, you're looking for value. You're not really looking. Are they gonna play this year or are they gonna be awesome? Like also, this is a good spot to just grab a guy you liked in college, like Tory Orton I picked last year because he was awesome against Travis Hunter at that Colorado State Colorado game two seasons before. He had a rough last year in college, wasn't the same. I think his quarterback got hurt or whatever, but he had like 15 catches, like 150 yards or something that game. He ended up being he's pretty decent in the NFL, and he might make some splashes and he might be unplayable for the rest of his career. You know, it's just always fun. Go stash a guy, he could end up winning a championship down the line.

SPEAKER_01 50:03

So I like Shade Knott when I was going through draft stuff. Um he ended up he ends up on the Chiefs and he might be behind a couple guys, but if he can make an impact in that offense.

SPEAKER_00 50:15

Mm-hmm. Again, with the injury concerns with Kendall uh Kendall. Kenneth Walker. Mm-hmm. Exactly. Uh I'm seeing some is it CJ Daniels with the Rams buzz? Rams rookie receivers. I think people are really worried about the Puka thing, and they ended up not getting a uh yeah, Liberty guy who had uh had a thousand yards and ten touchdowns in his last season, and then he went to Miami after. Whatever. A undrafted guy potentially could find a role in the offense if Puka is struggling with some stuff. Maybe he steps up in that number two receiver role. I like that. Yeah. I think we kind of talked about everything. Anything else? Nope. Good luck in the draft. Let's uh let's talk Mendoza.

unknown 51:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 51:16

My phone lines are open.

SPEAKER_00 51:18

Uh yeah. I you're gonna have to be happy with not much as far as draft capital this year back. But if you're looking to get a first-round pick next year, I think we can talk about them.

SPEAKER_02 51:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 51:33

Let's do it. All right. Yeah, maybe a couple players. I got some young guys. You want a bear? Bears. Clip that. All right. From me. Cold splits it up locks with from Sick of the I'm called the Witness Man Podcast.

SPEAKER_03 51:53

Peace.