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Hello, I am Joshua P. Warren, and this is Joshua P. Warren Daily. Well, I have put together the video report about my trip into the desert at night to the spot where I got the space-time anomaly in Las Vegas with Sean Kevin Jason. And if you've listened to my previous podcast, you know how remarkable this trip was because you know when I got the time anomaly out in the desert, uh that was it was truly an anomaly. It was just something strange, and you know, I noted it and carried on. And I found out later that this was a big UFO hotspot. And one of the best examples of that, aside from some of the stunning footage that uh Steve Barone has captured, is the close encounter that Sean had in nineteen ninety-six at this same site. I mean, it's just incredible how synchronistic you can call it coincidence if you want to, but how synchronistic it is that I would get that reading, traveling from Vegas to Area 51 and back and taking measurements all over the place under all kinds of conditions, hot, cold, stormy, whatever, and um and and get that reading at this spot where Sean had this incredible experience. And you know, one of the things that sort of surprised me when he was telling me uh face to face about his experience is that I was under the impression that he was working at the restaurant that night in 1996, and he just felt compelled to go out into the desert, and he went out into the desert, he had this close encounter, and I kind of assumed he just went back home. No, that's not what happened. He was compelled to drive all the way to Area 51 and spend some time there, possibly go traveling with some aliens, and if that didn't work out, then you know, come back. Now that's a long journey. I mean, that's a good four plus hours from where he was working to drive all the way up in the middle of nowhere where there are barely even any gas stations or anything, all by himself. And you know what's uh funny is he was telling me that he had just barely begun his journey. I mean, he'd traveled from his workplace, you know, 30, 40 minutes into this, and that's when he saw this amazing UFO. And he thought that was just the introduction for the night. And if you put yourself in his position, you can understand that. Because, you know, for most people, if you saw that, like, yep, that's the big grand finale for the night. But for him, he was thinking, no, this is just the introduction. He's thinking, okay, you know, I was compelled to go to go and do this for some kind of reason, and so lo and behold, I'm gonna go up here, and I will by the time I make it to Area 51, yeah, the aliens are gonna come down, they're gonna invite me on their ship, they're gonna give me a tour of the universe. Explain everything to me. So you can imagine how disappointed he actually was, ironically, to have this one experience with this craft hovering over his car for ten minutes, and then drive for, you know, basically another hour and a half, two hours, whatever, to get up there past Rachel and sit around and have nothing happen, and uh then have to come home and realize that the thing he thought was the introduction was the big grand finale. That I mean, that was you know the big major incident that happened. And we also talked quite a bit about you know variables regarding the technology involved. I mean, was this man-made? Was this alien? Was it something that was a hybrid of technology? Um, you know, why didn't this thing just shoot off into the sky? Why did it kind of glide across the landscape and then disappear almost like one of the speeders from from Star Wars? I mean, we even talked about the possibility that when you get some kind of a an anomaly like I got, uh it might indicate that there's a pathway where gravity is a little different. And maybe there are certain craft that travel these highways where where gravity sort of helps them along. It reminds you perhaps of some of these demonstrations on TV where somebody takes some kind of uh a superconductor and they shove it uh down one of these uh metallic magnetic tracks, and the superconductor is hovering an inch or two overhead, and just and it just goes forever, it's just zooming forever based upon that original momentum. It's extremely efficient. Are there craft that again, whether they're man-made, alien, or a hybrid or whatever, are there craft out there that travel by tapping into these uh highways where there is some kind of uh gravitational advantage and just zoom along there very efficiently without having to use that much internal power. Uh, you know, these are all big questions, but um regardless of what this thing was and how it operated, I mean he felt he had to go out that night. He had to go out that night, and he had what we call a close encounter of the first kind. Now, I have posted a video report, it's not very long, I think it's a little over three minutes, um, showing you what happened when I went out there with Sean and Lauren and Charles and Randy on a very stormy night, which caused a lot of problems for us, uh, to that location where where Sean actually had this amazing model that uh one of his friends built of you know, a model of the UFO. And uh so when we went out there that night and we were sort of thinking about what he experienced, which was very, very nicely um expressed with this model. I mean, uh granted the model's fairly small, but you can you can use your imagination and you can expand that. When you think about that and you can you just sort of envision what that would have been like, the video report that I uh produced, it captures it very well. So if you go to joshuapwarren.com and just scroll down the home page to the bottom of the homepage, you'll see the video at uh Joshua PWarren.com. So what he had is what is called a close encounter of the first kind. Let me explain to you a little bit about what that means. So obviously, when most people think of close encounters, they think of the fantastic Steven Spielberg movie. And in fact, last year uh there were certain showings on the big screen, once again, around the country, of Close Encounters of the Third Kind, and Lauren and I went to watch it, and it was just overwhelming. It's just, you know, one of those movies that literally makes the hair on your arms stand up, especially on the big screen. And it's one of the reasons that Spielberg is is just such a great uh director. You know, he visualized that concept and he wrote the movie and you know, he he captured both the the humanity of the experience as well as the giant sort of cosmic consequences and that connection between well, something as small as one human and the rest of the universe. But uh that term, Close Encounters, is based upon the work of J. Alan Heinick, and uh he is one of the most esteemed researchers in the history of UFOs, or as they call it, ufology, and he wrote this book that was published in nineteen seventy-two called The UFO Experience, a scientific inquiry, and in that book he classified close encounters, and he had a scale that included close encounters of the first kind, the second kind, and the third kind. So let me um go over this and even if you already know it, well consider it a refresher. So a close encounter of the first kind is a visual sighting of an unidentified flying object seemingly less than five hundred feet away, that show an appreciable angular extension and considerable detail. Now, what's interesting about Sean's experience is that this UFO was right over top of his car, uh less than twenty feet. I mean, he said that he could easily have thrown a stone. He actually said I might have been able to spit and hit it with the help of the wind. That's how close this thing was over his car. Talk about freaky. It was so terrifying he didn't get out of his car. I thought he did, but he was like, heck no, man, I didn't get out of my car. Even though he was going out expecting to possibly get on a ship and go off and fly with the aliens, you know, like the reality of this is when it happens, um it's an instinct. It's terrifying. So what he had is an extreme close encounter of the first kind. Because 500 feet is a pretty good distance away. To have this thing right on top of you, you know, 20 feet or less, that's all that's a close, close, close encounter of the first kind. A close encounter of the second kind is a UFO event in which a physical effect, a physical effect is alleged. Um so this can be interference in the functioning of a vehicle or electronic device. It could be animals reacting, it could be a physiological effect such as paralysis or heat and discomfort in the witness, or some kind of physical trace like impressions on the ground, uh, you know, scorched or uh otherwise affected vegetation or a chemical trace. And uh, you know, Sean said that his car didn't act weird, uh he didn't feel any heat, so you know uh there was nothing of that nature. So his encounter was definitely not a close encounter of the second kind. But that is what you would uh what you would of course think about if you were classifying things, you know, is there some kind of physical sort of impression or interaction or interface? And then we have close encounters of the third kind, the most famous kind, and these are UFO encounters in which an animated creature is present. So this would include humanoids, robots, or even humans who seem to be occupants or pilots of a UFO. And that is that's the the the groundstone right there. That's the cornerstone, that's like the bedrock of close encounters. The first being you see the thing close up, second, the thing creates a physical reaction, and the third is you see some kind of being there that is a part of it. And then, of course, since then other researchers have come along and talked about things like well, close encounters of the fourth kind, you know, where you where you get abducted and whatever. Uh, but uh a lot of people don't even acknowledge anything beyond uh Heineken's work because he was one of the most uh scientifically based, credible researchers. So that's the bedrock right there. So basically, when you watch this video, um you're going to see a guy, Sean Kevin Jason, who is a very rational, credible, as a matter of fact, technical person. Uh he works in the technology business, um, who has given me absolutely no reason to doubt his story and and his realistic reaction to what happened. You're going to see him back at the site where he had the experience with a model of the craft. And and we actually put that model up in into the air and we talked about it, you know. So the video, it's again, it's only like three, maybe three and a half minutes. You've got to see this. It's at joshua pwarren.com. There's no period after the pee. Go to joshuapeewarren.com, scroll down to the bottom of the homepage and watch this video. Um I have a lot of stuff to do this weekend, so I gotta run. But let me remind you now, I will be in Los Angeles, California soon doing a workshop in person. I'll be hosting a very rare workshop. I don't do this much anymore. And um only 49 tickets are available. So while you are at joshuapeewarren.com, I hope you'll click the link there to the Los Angeles event or the Hollywood event or however it's listed on the website, and uh learn more about what I'll be doing there, and maybe I'll have an opportunity to get to hang out with you soon in Los Angeles. Again, only 49 tickets total are available for this special event. And also at joshua pwarren.com you'll find a link to this podcast. It's called Joshua P. Warren Daily. It's always short, it's always free. You can subscribe through various means or just follow me on Twitter at Joshua P. Warren at Joshua P. Warren, and I will tweet when a new one is available. So that's it for today. Thank you for listening, thank you for your interest and support, thank you for staying curious, and I will talk to you again soon.