My Stem Cell Journey for Rheumatoid Arthritis: Part 2

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Hello, I am Joshua P. Warren, and this is my stem cell journey for rheumatoid arthritis part two. I am now getting geared up for my trip to Panama to receive these fresh stem cells from an umbilical cord, or maybe it's umbilical cords, I'm not sure. And uh I'll be I'll be heading down there in less than a week. I uh I have some other stops along the way. I'm gonna stop somewhere before uh I get to Panama and then again on the way back, so I have some other business to take care of. But anyway, um in this podcast, I want to tell you what I have learned about the current state of stem cell treatments and why that I am seeking it for my rheumatoid arthritis. I'm also going to give you details. I'm gonna tell you about the process to apply for this and the cost. The point of me producing these special podcasts is to give you these kinds of details. So if you're if you're just looking for an entertaining podcast, as I I usually try to do, then you probably shouldn't listen to this. So if you're not interested in this particular topic, I don't recommend that you keep listening because this is really just to inform people who are curious about the reality of getting stem cells in this day and age in the year 2026. Or uh, you know, maybe someone who is considering doing it but uh wants to know you know the realistic experience. And I want to tell you right up front, and I've been like this throughout my entire career. I want to make sure you understand I have no background whatsoever in the medical business. Okay, zero medical experience. And and that I also want you to understand, I don't claim that I know anything about healing or therapy. I don't know anything, I have nothing that would put me in a position to give me some kind of inside medical knowledge. So let me make that a very clear disclaimer. I'm only telling you about my experience as an ignorant patient going into this. And uh so, you know, don't take anything that I say as medical advice. Also, I want you to know that I am not being sponsored in any way. I am not getting any discounts on this, I'm not getting any breaks, uh, I'm getting no special treatment whatsoever. Uh, I applied for this just like you can, just like anybody can. And I am paying full price for this, just like everybody else. So I have no incentive whatsoever to uh to skew my opinion as I go through this process and tell you about it. And even if they offered me a discount for some reason, I would not accept it because I want you to be able to trust in what I'm telling you. I think this topic is that important, and uh and I think it's you know it's a great opportunity for me to sort of be uh one of the pioneers, I guess, who goes and does this and brings back news because what I'm about to do is not available in the United States of America. Uh, this particular type of stem cell therapy. Now, there are other types, and I'll get to that in a second. But this particular type of therapy that I'm getting is not approved by the FDA, and that's why I'm going to Panama, where they have a head start on this kind of research, and they have very good, uh, a really good track record. And I am going to um, well, if I go down there and I have a positive experience, that I will be able to come back and tell you, you know, vouch for it and say, look, folks, we need to get this available at this level in the USA, so we don't have to go to another country. But if I go there and I have a negative experience or it just doesn't work, then I'll come back and I'll tell you that. And that way, you know, I'll save you some time and money. And um it'll just be a very expensive experiment, but it'll still be worthwhile and interesting for all of us. Before I get into the meat of this podcast, though, uh, let me tell you how you can stay uh stay with me throughout this journey, how you can follow along, because I will be posting information as I go throughout this uh pretty close to real time. But I can't make any promises, but I'm gonna do my best. So here's how you can stay updated. Um I will write a newsletter when I can. And of course, you sign up for my newsletter through joshuapwarren.com. It takes you two seconds, you put your email address in there, hit submit, and then you'll be a subscriber. Uh, I will do that when I can, but most of the time, because of this hectic condition, you know, traveling from place to place and just being in that travel mode, I will be posting my updates on X, formerly Twitter. I've looked at the two of the options, and this seems like the easiest thing for me to do on the road. So uh you don't necessarily have to have an X account to see some of these posts, I believe. Um it's a definitely a benefit if you do, however, it's all free. Uh to find my X account, just type in on the the search engine, Joshua P. Warren on X. My name there is at Joshua P. Warren. Or if you go to joshua p.com, you'll find an X icon on the home page. I think it's right next to the where the links are on the homepage. So uh if you do sign up for X, then that will give you the ability to select me uh as a part of your notification list. So that means when I make a post, you'll get an immediate notification to know that I posted something and you can see what I've written and uh and pictures I post, or maybe even video clips. That's what most people do who want to stay um up to the up to the minute on these things. A lot of my updates, just due to the constraints of traveling, will not be audio. Uh, they will just be written with again some pics, maybe video clips on X. That'll be the fastest and easiest way for me to do this as I travel. Um but when I do have audio updates, just like this one, well, they will be posted here on this Joshua P. Warren Daily podcast feed. And this is a feed that I only use for special projects right now. This is totally different than Strange Things. So you can also follow that audio feed. Go to JPW Daily, JPW Daily, D-A-I-L-Y dot com, and you'll see options to follow this podcast. And again, it's completely separate from Strange Things. And that is one of the reasons that I also warn you right up front. Because this is totally independent and uh it is not family friendly, so I may or may not use R-rated language when I do these podcasts. These reports are uncensored. That's your warning. And I say that not because that I'm just Jonesin to curse, but I just don't want to have any restrictions on what I say so that I can be absolutely honest with you. I may or may not use some foul language. I reserve the right to do so if I want, but uh I don't have a I don't go out on a mission to do that. All right. So here is sort of why that I personally decided to make this big move. Uh a lot of it has to do with my father's history. Um I am going to be 50 years old this year. And when my father got into his 50s, he started having a lot of very serious problems. And uh thank God my mother and father are with us and doing well now, but he has gone through a lot of problems. My dad uh he has diabetes, he has heart disease, he has glaucoma. Uh he's had at least a couple of heart attacks, including open heart surgery. He had one very serious stroke that, I mean, it basically left him incapable of doing anything. He recovered from that, but since then has had other smaller strokes. And um, I I've talked to doctors and they say, look, you the genes that you have here coming down, especially your father's side here, um, this puts you at like the highest risk level possible as you're getting this age, that you might encounter all these types of issues. And so I've been aware of that for a long time, and I've always taken proper medication over the years to try to nip as much as I can in the bud. But one thing that my father doesn't have that I got diagnosed with uh five or six years ago is rheumatoid arthritis. Now, let me explain to you a little bit about rheumatoid arthritis. Most people, when they hear that, they just think of, oh, well, you're getting old and your joints are hurting. No, no, no. That's called osteoarthritis. So osteoarthritis is what happens just with wear and tear as you get older and your body breaks down. And that can be horrible. But rheumatoid arthritis is a completely different thing. Uh rheumatoid arthritis, it's I actually wish it didn't have the word arthritis in there because everybody hears that and they just think it's regular old osteoarthritis. No. Rheumatoid arthritis includes all these joint pains, but it goes way beyond that. It is an autoimmune disease. So autoimmune diseases are considered among the most mysterious chronic illnesses in the world. And that's because when you have one of these, it means that your immune system mistakenly attacks healthy tissues, often with unknown triggers and complex genetic links. It affects millions of people here in this country alone. Uh they are a major health crisis, and it can create uh far more than just soreness. I mean, for one thing, it's unpredictable. You might feel great one day, you get up the next day, and you can barely use your your your joints, you know. There's searing pain. Sometimes it feels like somebody's hit your finger with a hammer. Rheumatoid arthritis, I'm looking at it right now, it says rheumatoid arthritis is a chronic painful inflammation primarily in joints, often leading to destruction of cartilage and bone, meaning eventually you might not be able to walk, joint deformities, and severe disability. Beyond joints, RA causes widespread systematic issues, including cardiovascular disease, lung disease, nodules, which are big lumps you get on your joints, and vascular inflammation. Okay. So uh and I mean you're talking about nerve damage, uh eye dryness, known as Chogrin syndrome, where your eyes get real red and dry, systematic, persistent fatigue. I mean, so tired you can sleep 12 hours and feel like you haven't slept at all, and everybody just thinks you're just being lazy and you're like, no, low-grade fever. The one symptom they list here that I didn't get weight loss. See, doesn't that figure you get all the other shitty stuff, but then the one thing that you want the weight loss, now I haven't lost any weight. Oh well. Uh so this is I mean, this is a very, very serious uh condition, and uh it can, you know, it can cause you to die uh earlier than you're supposed to die. And I'm not afraid of death, but I certainly don't want to uh unnecessarily suffer while I'm here. And considering that I'm at high risk for all these other things from you know my dad's lineage at least, um, and then I have this on top of it, uh I mean I looked up like what causes this? Why did I get this out of the blue? It says the exact cause is unknown. It arises from a combination of genetic susceptibility, hormonal factors, and environmental triggers. One of the worst things you can do is smoke. Well, I don't smoke. Um, but basically they say the main thing is genetics, and it doesn't have to be something that's direct. Like my mom and dad don't have this. Uh my grandparents, as far as I know, didn't have it. But they say it doesn't work that way. It can skip generations. And it wouldn't be that big of a surprise for me to uh get some kind of weirdo gene that skipped around my gene pool because I'm the weirdo anyway in the family, right? I'm the wizard of weird. So I that's that has its good side and its bad side. The good side is, well, I get to go out and explore all these bizarre things and have a fun, adventurous life. But on the other hand, I guess uh I'm unique in this way as well. Or, you know, maybe not unique, but unique right now. So I can't say exactly where I got this, but uh how I got it. I mean, I know that genes are the biggest thing, they're they're still trying to figure all that out, but there's they say that you know it just gets worse. Now, yes, there are circumstances where they say some people reach a point where they go into remission and uh it starts reversing itself. They don't understand how that works. Um but I realized that like now is the time for me to to do whatever I can to try to stop this from progressing. And so I started doing research, and you know, people uh people think I'm crazy because I believe in using manifestation machines to help you in your life. And I think you know, things like wishing machines and um, you know, think rituals, prayer to me is a form of magic. And so, but the thing is when you use these these devices to help you manifest something, it's not like you snap your fingers and a leprechaun shows up and and waves a magic wand and and you're all better. No, what you do is you use these devices to try to help you find an opportunity. So I started you using specifically uh the Tepiphone, which is a very simple type of wishing machine, as well as the Apex machine. Um both those are at uh uh Wishing Machine Project.com that I uh of course I work with Dr. Mulder on that. And uh I started working with those and it to manifest, like give me the solution. What do I need to do at this point? Because I didn't know there's so much noise out there, and it led me to stem cells, and then um I realized how expensive this was going to be, and so then I used the machines to help me manifest the resources to be able to do this. So I definitely credit the manifestation tools for giving me the opportunity to go and do all this. Now, here is what I've learned about stem cells. Basically, they say here stem cells are the body's raw materials, unspecialized cells capable of self-renewing and differentiating into various specialized cell types. So, for example, heart, brain, bone cells, whatever, to repair tissues. They are known as quote master cells, end quote, or quote, body repair cells, end quote. They're used to treat many different kinds of diseases, regenerating organs, treating diabetes, leukemia, uh, and there are different types of stem cells. Now, stem cells originally got a bad reputation uh years many years ago because that scientists used to say that you had to take them from embryos, and that uh kind of overlapped with this whole abortion controversy, and there were people who got the idea that, oh, uh, you know, you're basically gonna like kill an embryo and take its cells and inject it into some rich guy. And people that that was sort of sort of like you know, the line that was used at one point in time. Well, look, we now are so far past that. There are many different ways of getting stem cells. For example, the ones that I'm gonna get, again, they're coming from fresh umbilical cords. I don't know if this is one person's umbilical cord or many, I don't even know that. But it doesn't really matter because it should be all the same. These are unformed cells that can go through your body, find where a problem is, attach to it, and then turn into the kind of cell that it needs to turn into. Think about when you were a kid, how much faster you healed, and if you're older, and like how much slower you heal, that's because of the freshness of the stem cell. So I don't want to go down the whole list here, um, but some places, like especially in this country in the USA, they offer stem cell therapy where they go into your own body. And I don't know exactly how this works, but I think they go into like your bone marrow or some fat deposits, and they find some of your own stem cells that are still around, and then they they extract them and then they uh inject them into problem areas. And a lot of people have great success with that. But I I saw one doctor, uh, one stem cell doctor say, well, that's kind of just like rearranging the furniture. That if you're just you know you're you're old and they're taking something from your old ass and putting it into a different part of your old ass, and you know, that can be great for that one particular area. But hadn't you rather have brand new furniture? Yes, I I would love to have brand new furniture. And that's what happens when you go and you get the the umbilical uh cord cells, which I'm gonna get. And um basically um what what they do is they can give you an infusion, which is like an IV, where they put millions of these things into your system, but then they also can give you injections and to certain problem areas, you know. For example, like you know, my lower back hurts me a lot, and so they'll put something in my lower back. So um, you know, if you're interested in the different types of stem cells and what your options may be here in the US, well, you know, go I'm telling you that you should go and and look at it. Um I started reading books about um about stem cells. Tony Robbins wrote a really good book about it. Uh Dr. Neil Rorden did, and I started seeing, and I I don't want to tell you exactly where I'm going at this point. You can probably figure it out. But there there is more than one place in Panama that does stem cells. But I started reading these books, and then I started listening to celebrities and people who have enough money to go anywhere they want in the world, and they were all saying, This is where I go, and here's what happened. And and they tell these like almost miraculous stories about how much it improved them. And everybody says that these stem cells are really fantastic for autoimmune diseases in particular. And you know, I've gone to a rheumatologist for you know, well, five or six years, um, and I've taken the medicines that they've given me, and you know, they they do an okay job, but um I mean basically what you know let me see here. I found a graphic the other day. I don't know if I can find it right now, but it talks about like all the problems. It says RA affects the whole body, it can bring um it doesn't just stay in the joints, it affects the heart, lungs, skin. Uh it both the condition and the medications can weaken the immune system, making infections more likely and recovery slower. It impacts every part of life. That's another thing. A lot of times the medications will make you nauseated. The condition also can make you nauseated because it affects your digestive system. And that's horrible when you're tired and nauseated. You just feel like you I mean it it's it's very, very hard to get up and get excited about your day if you're feeling tired and nauseated. And the a lot of the medication that they give you contributes to that. Uh and so I I did all this research and I was like, okay, this is where all these people who have all the money in the world, they go and they rave about this place. This place has done over 80,000 procedures. You can look up their reviews, the reviews are stellar, but I still wanted to make sure that I wasn't just, you know, some wacko who's being brainwashed by something on the internet. And so I went to my doctors and I talked to my doctors about it. I talked to my rheumatologist, I talked to my main general doctor, and both of them said this is the way of the future. And in fact, uh, one of my doctors said, you know, if I were you, I would do it. So I'm not just relying on books I've read or crap I've seen on the internet or whatever. I mean, I've taken the extra steps. And um I think, you know, most people who are in the medical business, they realize that there is legitimacy to this being uh of possible help. And it may go even beyond what uh what I think I have. Like I know I have rheumatoid arthritis, you know, they they they test me and they they say, oh, your rheumatoid factor is that's what they test. They take your blood and they say, Oh my gosh, your rheumatoid factor is really high. That's that's your inflammation in your body. And then, you know, they they look at your joints and everything, and they feel the stiffness, and they look at you know how things are swelling or whatever at certain times, and they go, Yeah, you know, you've got you've got this, and it's not, it's incurable. Um, and so you know, when when you do you go through that um and you think to yourself, well, um there's nothing else I can really do, but the doctors are telling me, yeah, I'd try this out if I were you. I go, all right, fine. I will tell you the name of the facility when all is said and done. But for now, you know, I just don't I don't think I should say it until everything is is accomplished. So once I'd done my research and I thought that this may have the best chance of helping me, not curing anything, okay? Let me make that clear. Nobody said this will cure rheumatoid arthritis, but but help. And I thought, okay, maybe this will help with the rheumatoid arthritis, but I may have other issues going on that I don't even know about. And but that's the cool thing about these cells, because a doctor may not be able to know what your problem is, but these cells are designed by Mother Nature to go into your body and to find where any problem is and try to fix it. So I went to the website for this place and I filled out an online application, and they wanted to know every little detail, as you can imagine, about you know, my history, um, you know, my medical history, with the medications I've been on, family history, all that kind of stuff. Um, and I sent that to them. And then a few days later, they got back to me and they said, okay, well, now we want you to send us some recent medical files, uh, recent lab reports and stuff. And I go to the doctors on a regular basis, so that's no problem for me. So I sent them uh just attached documents. You can go to nowadays, you usually can go to a patient portal for a doctor, download these documents as PDFs or whatever, and then send that. I sent that to them. And I figured, well, that should be all they need. But then they came back and they said, okay, well, now we need you to send us an updated, like a new report within, I forget how long. I think I I think it only had to be at least within the past year, where the doctor sits down and uh let's see. Let me see if I can um find exactly what they wrote. I've had so many different bits of correspondence. They said, we want you to send uh to okay, send us your most recent encounter report with a physical exam within the past 12 months that includes a diagnostic report of conditions and a review of all your systems: constitutional, respiratory, cardiovascular, musculoskeletal, a multi-point checklist used by primary care and general practitioners for health and wellness. So I didn't so they so at this point I was like, look, I'm just gonna go see my doctor and show him this email and say, can you produce whatever they want? So I made a special appointment just for this. I went to see my doctor, I showed him the email. He goes, Okay, we sat there, we went through the exam, and he produced this fresh report that had all that up-to-date information about my physical conditions. And then I sent that to them, and at that point, they finally got back to me and said, Okay, uh, you look like uh a good candidate. It looks like you know we might be able to help you, but now you're gonna have to talk to a doctor. So then um a couple days later, I got on the phone with one of their doctors, and uh we had had a great conversation. Uh I talked to him for oh at least 30 minutes, and we went over I told him specifically about you know my situation. I was very honest with him, talking about, you know, my uh my my vices and you know how I'm not the healthiest guy, and you know, how I I do drink alcohol and you know that kind of stuff. Um and so uh he uh he he listened to everything and he said, I definitely think that you know you're you're uh you're a very good candidate for this, and this might be able to help you. And so he says, you know, we'll be back with you in a couple days. And a couple days later they contacted me and they approved me and said, You are approved to have a uh to come down here and get this treatment. And the treatment length would be four days of actual treatment, and they told me originally the price for this would be $26,900 US dollars, and all of that had to be payable in advance before the procedure. Although you can make payments if you need to, you don't have to give them one lump sum, but you can make payments. And they said the pricing is valid 60 days from the receipt of that email, and uh they said what they were gonna do for me is give me one hundred and twenty million expanded allogenic mesenchymal stem cells through intravenous administration. Um, okay, so what does that mean? So it says mesenchymal, and I have no idea if I'm spelling that right. Mesenchymal stem cells, MSCs, also known as mesenchymal stromal cells, are multipotent adult stem cells found in bone marrow, fat, and umbilical cord tissue. They differentiate into bone cartilage and fat cells and are used in regenerative medicine for their ability to repair tissues and reduce inflammation. Um you can look that up more if you want to. But the doctor told me on the phone, he said, when we give you these stem cells, um, he said, they're gonna go through your whole body and they're unformed, they're blank, and they will find wherever a problem is and they will start working on it. And he said, So it's very important that you try to be as healthy as possible when you get here. Because he said, if you get here and you have a cold, for example, well, all those cells, those stem cells, they're gonna target that cold and they're gonna focus on that and fix that cold. But we don't want that. We want them to flow as evenly distributed as possible throughout my entire system. So if I have one spot where I'm having a particular problem or particular flare-up or particular illness, then so many of them will be attracted to that that I may not get that equal body distribution that we're hoping for. So that means leading up to this treatment, that uh it's very important that I do everything I can to eat healthy, um, not drink alcohol. Uh obviously you would never want to smoke or anything like that. Um really take as few drugs as possible and go there in the most natural state you can go, so that when they give you these things, then um, you know, they like I say, they they're not all focused on one temporary problem. They're trying to help your more permanent long-standing issue. And uh I don't know, some people say that after you uh get this, the uh an infusion, that you might run a fever, you might feel nauseated, you might feel like you've got flu-like symptoms. But you know, again, I'm kind of used to that because sometimes when you get a flare-up of this rheumatoid arthritis, you feel like that. And that doesn't, it never gets any easier. But um I I don't know if I'm gonna feel like that or not. Uh you'll find out when I find out, I'll tell you. But when he was asking me about certain particular problem areas, and I told him, I said, Well, you know, my lower back, uh I think I have problems with my lower back, and uh I said, you know, I have a problem here and here, and he goes, Well, we can give you some additional injections in those spots as well. And so uh I said, Great. So that bumped up the price a little bit. So here is what they're telling me. Once I get down there, um the treatment is going to include all the medical uh services and facilities and laboratory services. They're also gonna give me a five-night stay at a luxury hotel with some perks there. Uh they're also going to have one of their staff meet me at the airport gate and help me get through customs and make that process as easy as possible. And then they're also gonna give me complimentary transportation from the airport to their hotel. And so um by the time all this is said and done, the actual total cost, which I have already paid in full, is $28,100 US dollars. That's over they're they're saying a four-day treatment period, so that comes up to, if my math is right, $7,025 per day for four days. Let's just call it $30,000 to do this. But of course, I live in Las Vegas, and by the time all is said and done, this trip is going to cost me a lot more than that. And that's because I'm a big guy and I don't like airplanes, I'm kind of claustrophobic, and it's even worse when I'm having joint problems. So I if I fly, I fly first class. Unless I'm on a 45-minute flight, you know, if I can't fly first class, I just don't fly. Uh so I'm flying first class, and like I say, I'm gonna make some extra stops on the way down there and some extra stops on the way back, not only to break up the trip a little bit, but I have some other business to take care of. So, look, by the time all said and done, this is gonna end up being a very expensive experience. But if it helps, especially to the degree that it may, because I've seen lots of video testimonials from people with my same situation who go down there and they say, Man, I my only regret is that I didn't do this sooner. Um, it'll be worth it. And especially at my age, because you know, I talk about, you know, I'm gonna be 50 like I'm an old man, but the reality is a lot of people don't even try to do this until they're in their 70s, eighties, or even 90s, and they still have tremendous success. So they say. So if I do this at this age, then uh this might like really make a big, big difference for me. That the younger you you you you hit the reboot button on some of your sales, then you know, the more you'll get out of it. So so I think this will be worth it. Now you might say, My gosh, you're just you have no idea because insurance is not covering any of this, okay? This is out of my pocket. You might say, Josh, you know, you're gonna spend you know, oh well over thirty thousand dollars to make this trip. But you know what? Look at what a lot of people spend on things, especially like middle-aged guys, they spend a lot of money on cars or some big fancy vacation or or some hobby, you know, and uh or raising kids. That ain't cheap. I I don't have any kids, so that's helpful. So I think that this is a great experiment for my money, and I get to share my experience with all of you so you can determine whether or not this may help you or your loved ones someday. So this is cutting edge. So I just want to recap. Um, this is probably the last podcast I'm gonna do before I start this trip. So just to clarify for you, um if you want to stay as updated as possible, number one, definitely be sure to sign up for my free e-newsletter at joshwhippwarren.com, right there on the homepage. Number two, I recommend that you find me on X on Josh at joshwhippee.com. There is a link to X, and some of these things you might be able to read even if you're not a member of X, but if you sign up for X, uh it's free, it's quick, and I'm I've been a member for I don't know, many, many years, probably 15 years. It used to be Twitter. Um, you'll get to see stuff right when I post it immediately, and you can even get a notification. And then also, like I say, um however you're listening to this podcast right now, this is a Buzz Sprout podcast. Uh you should be able to follow this particular podcast called Joshua P. Warren Daily. And that way, when I do leave an audio update, you'll be able to get that as well. So though that's like all I can tell you about like the easiest ways to try to keep track of this if it's of interest to you. I've never done anything quite like this before. Um, as I've said before, I'm excited about this. I'm a little nervous about it, of course, because I don't know exactly what to expect. And I'm dreading just the process of traveling. You know, I have traveled a lot in my life. I worked for the travel channel for years. And um, you know, traveling is very stressful, and even more so these days when you have all these issues with like whether or not the the government's gonna fund this or that, and how how big the crowds are gonna be at the airport and all. But uh so yeah, it's gonna be stressful, but um I am uh I'm I'm looking forward to to this. I wouldn't do it if I didn't feel like it was worth it and that the possible payoff could be amazing. Um for the next few weeks, you will still be hearing me on strange things because I've gone ahead and pre-recorded at least a few of those in advance. So um, but then there will probably be uh, you know, maybe a best of or two as well as I go through this. So I guess that's it for now. Um I hope that you find this interesting and informative and educational, and uh I plan to provide for you the most detailed, realistic account of what this is like if you are considering doing it yourself. And uh, of course, who knows how this story is going to end. Hopefully, it'll end with me uh telling you that I am uh am a new man, that I feel like I have a new lease on life, and I've um I've I've tapped into modern technology to prevent some potential medical problems down the roll as uh down the road as I go through this uh epic and mysterious journey we call life. All right, my friends, I guess that's all. Thank you for listening. Thank you for your interest and support. Thank you for staying curious, and I will talk to you again soon.