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Mickey 17: The Darkest Timeline
Robert Pattinson delivers a masterful dual performance in Bong Joon-ho's Mickey 17, a sci-fi satire that explores identity, expendability, and the dark side of colonial expansion. The film follows a man who is repeatedly cloned and sacrificed for a fledgling colony on an alien planet, ultimately challenging the authoritarian leadership threatening both human settlers and indigenous life.
• Pattinson plays both Mickey 17 and Mickey 18, showcasing distinct personalities despite being clones
• Mark Ruffalo portrays Kenneth Marshall, a Trump-like authoritarian leader complete with red-cap-wearing supporters
• The film features strong performances from Naomi Ackie and Toni Collette in supporting roles
• Bong Joon-ho's direction creates a deliberately muted visual palette that brightens only when characters experience freedom
• The storyline draws clear parallels to contemporary politics while examining the ethics of colonialism
• Originally scheduled for release in 2022, the film faced multiple delays including one following an assassination attempt on Donald Trump
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Speaker 1:Oh shit. Hey everybody out there, welcome to High and Dry Podcast, the only podcast keeping alive the fandom of the adventures of Timmy the Tooth, a 1994 series. I don't know if anyone remembers that or if the three of us are just doing this for ourselves remembers that, or the three of us are just doing this for ourselves.
Speaker 2:I remember Timmy the tooth, but I don't remember anything about this series.
Speaker 1:I remember nothing about him, but I just saw a picture of him and I'm like holy shit, there was a puppet tooth that was teaching us and I guess he hangs out with a toothbrush. I remember the toothbrush?
Speaker 2:yeah, that guy, okay, he hangs out with a toothbrush. I remember the toothbrush. Yeah, that guy, okay. Well, I mean, the people who remember him probably remember him from their nightmares. So, yeah, was it tongue in cheek, or was it actually for kids or was it? I have no idea, we'll do some research, get back to everybody. We'll do an episode on the timmy the tooth. Yeah, we'll do some rating, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:So for those of you who've heard this before, you know we're not actually doing Timmy the Tooth this week. We're actually going to be talking about Mickey 17, the new film out, starring uh, robert Pattinson. Is it Pattinson, patterson, pattinson, robert Pattinson, pattinson? There we go, batman or, uh, edward, depending on when you uh first started watching him. Uh. So we'll be talking about that. We're gonna, we're gonna have a good time. We're gonna break this down into a three-part method. First off, we're going to discuss the movie. We're going to rate it. We're going to give you the definitive high and dry rating out of five. After it's done, you can't argue it, it's over, it's a wrap, this is what it is. And then we're going to break into the golden path. We're going to discuss some of the deeper meanings behind Mickey 17. And then, finally, we're going to insert ourselves drugs and or alcohol into the film. And what makes it so special and fun is first, we are going to be doing that drunk and high.
Speaker 1:So fellas what are you, how are you guys doing? We're smoking this week. All the above, I kind of skipped introducing you with me, as always okay, luke it's been a while, it's okay give me one second.
Speaker 2:I gotta get my lighter I'm james, I've been good.
Speaker 2:Hey, jane switched up houses and I'm enjoying our new fruit trees. What I'm smoking today is galactic jack, which is a sativa which is a cultivar of jack harrier. If anybody knows anything about jack harrier, it's a sativa which is a cultivar of Jack Harrow. If anybody knows anything about Jack Harrow, it's a sativa, but it's got like high mercy, so Jack is going to do the same thing. I mean, Galactic Jack's a pretty sick name for it too. I want to be known as Galactic Jack.
Speaker 1:Actually, you know what Call me that from now on.
Speaker 2:We'll call it Cosmic Mickey for today.
Speaker 1:Way cooler than.
Speaker 2:Star-Lord. I would much rather be Galactic Jack, the leader of the Guardians of the Galaxy.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah. Well, Luke, how are you doing today and what are you smoking?
Speaker 2:I am smoking cookies and cream. Okay, it just doesn't say anything. No stats, no stats.
Speaker 1:It is weak, that's it all right with the cookies and cream finish, I guess yeah, maybe, maybe a little sweet finish. We'll see okay, all right, all right. Um, it's on my end. So first, something I did want to share how I'm doing. Usually, I'm not doing it all and I just kind of blow past me. I will say, though, I started a new, so basically I was talking, it was me and ChatGPT had a nice quiet evening at home, like we do every night, and I was watching the remake of the Crow.
Speaker 1:Curiosity grabs us all, james yeah sometimes you just you know it's on stars right now, let me check it out, you know. But I'm looking at scars guard, right, and dude's just fucking shredded. And I asked chat gpt like hey, I'm gonna give you control of my fucking life right timing, diet, everything. Can you turn me into scars guard from crow 2 or a crow remake? And the dude's like hell yeah. And so last wednesday was my first week following ai as my personal trainer. That first week I did a full two pound for two pound muscle versus fat body recomp. I'm just flat. I gained two pounds of muscle, lost two pounds of fat and I'm still going with this dude. I've had like two drinks over the past two weeks. I'm just doing what he tells me to and uh.
Speaker 2:So a computer told you to stop drinking so much and your health improved.
Speaker 1:Yay, full recomposition. But I told him specifically, like yo, we need to make room for some drinks now, and then he's like, yeah, that's fine, but we're going to make it a ritual, not a habit.
Speaker 2:Wow, he's a smart guy.
Speaker 1:He's a smart dude, he really is. But dude, two pound for two pound recomp in a week and I'm halfway through the second week now and it looks like it's about to happen again. It's been, you know, freaking insane what this dude does, but like he may have to buy like 200 bucks in supplements and he tells me exactly when to eat, down to the minute he's done my workouts, it's wild. It's wild, yeah, personal trainers look the fuck out.
Speaker 1:We don't need you anymore. Just like artists, authors Pretty much all art is now just AI. Long live our overlords, but anyway.
Speaker 2:They won't need you to build a nice body. They'll be able to print their own bodies and shred them themselves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'll be in like a little pod working as the most inefficient battery. So many options, the machines, humans, they're just being sick at that point, that's all. So, anyway, I'm going to be drinking, uh, old Forrester 1920. Um, this is actually the anniversary of when I started drinking Old Forrester. Exactly a year ago is when I really enjoyed this.
Speaker 2:The year to date.
Speaker 1:Well, yesterday, yesterday, okay.
Speaker 2:So we won't go into the lies.
Speaker 1:But that's what I'm going to be drinking.
Speaker 2:Well, cheers to that. It's a good ritual every year around Easter Old Forester 1920.
Speaker 1:It's 115 horsepower, Tastes fantastic. It's truly my favorite hands down how many horses. Cheers to AI and new bodies. Whoo load, damn that first one hits like a baseball bat to the nose. Oh jesus, fucking I'm still. How'd that one?
Speaker 2:feel did that one warm your chest?
Speaker 1:it did, it did and um with uh, my lowered, like I guess, tolerance right now. It's going to. It's going to be nice, it's going to hit hard, it's going to hit hard.
Speaker 2:Aren't thou feeling it now, mr Grant? We should, we should speed along. Luke is already well into it. I am, I am, we got to get going.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, we got to look into this. So our we gotta get going. Oh yeah, we gotta look into this. So our next shot toast. This one goes out to our newest listeners. These ones are from looks like Canada lit the fuck up. So we got Abbotsford, british Columbia. We got Ajax, ontario, and Ontario.
Speaker 2:Ontario whatever they're gonna love that. Give your head a shake, bud, ontario, whatever.
Speaker 1:They're gonna love that. Give your head a shake bud. That's funny To Ontario.
Speaker 2:Ontario.
Speaker 1:Ontario Cheers. There's a new thing I've been enjoying a lot lately on the old scrolling like they took like what if yoda had a uh ontario accent? What if uh walter from breaking bad was from ontario? Ontario Ed was from Ontario, ontario, the Breaking Bad one.
Speaker 2:They're bringing back memories of their colonial oppressors Britain, ontario.
Speaker 1:It's fucking the Breaking Bad one. She goes can't you accept that you're in danger? And he turns around and he's like look, I've only had four man, alright. Usually it takes me a sixer to get a buzz. Give me my fucking keys bro, usually takes me a fucking sixer there bud so, uh, last shot, last toast, last hit for now, uh, this one goes out to fucking Mickey 17.
Speaker 2:Mickey 17 cheers cheers and also. I want to cheers Mickey 1 through 16. Hell yeah, did you guys see my name?
Speaker 1:in this podcast. I did. If only the folks at home can see how smart and clever you are with all the names I know I know it's just for us, it's just, it's just us nice, well, yeah, if anyone at home ever starts reading the transcripts, they might see that.
Speaker 1:So, all right, we'll see. Whoo, all right. So it's time to get into this first portion here before, uh, the the weed and everything takes over. So, um, we're gonna break this. We're gonna give you five star ratings. We tell you about mickey 17 new film out. So, uh, who wants to kick this off? What did we think of this movie?
Speaker 2:I don't know, I'll go ahead yeah, I don't mind kicking it off. It's been a couple weeks since I saw it. In all honesty, I really enjoyed Mickey 17. I left the theater and I was like I liked that. I felt like it was really good. I am a big fan of Robert Pattinson's acting. I think that he People don't even understand that. I feel like the Twilight movies.
Speaker 2:He acted the way that edward was older, yeah yeah, by that that was the vision for the movie, and I think he played it to a t. Don't get me wrong, is it still corny? But that's what those books were, they're like.
Speaker 1:It was explosively popular, yeah I would have been if someone asked me if I got a fucking contract In Gmail saying like hey, do you want to be Edward in these new Twilight movies? Fucking yes.
Speaker 2:I think that he is a Very talented actor and I had a note even about the scene where it's the two hymns fighting to kill each other and I just I was like this is so entertaining. The cinematography was great there and it was just really entertaining and I was like, wow, this is just all. The cinematography was great there and it was just really entertaining and I was like, wow, this is just all him.
Speaker 2:I feel like a chemistry on screen with these two Mickeys who have kind of different personalities and I thought that was incredible. And I like Naomi Aki quite a bit as well in the movie, uh, like a cool dynamic character. She has like this like weird dynamic with them too, like she's in love with both of them. It's like she's like no, like he. And I liked her perspective of it's like he's, it's mickey, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter that there's two of them, it's mickey, mickey's mind and I don't know. I thought that perspective was interesting because I feel like the other girl I can't remember her name she had the completely different view where she was like there's a different, he's a different guy. Let me be with it.
Speaker 1:Let me get the extra, let me get the spare.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I thought that was interesting but, yeah, I genuinely thought the movie overall was really good. I thought the acting was really solid, cinematography was very entertaining, uh, uh, and overall the story and plot had me very interested and I thought, yeah, the the overall theme of them invading this planet and the satire of let's be honest, trump in the movie it's too. Yeah, yes, like, and I don't even mind. I was like that's funny.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like that it's thrown in your face mark ruffalo made a great trump yes, and it was extremely personality figure yeah, yeah, I want to punch mark ruffalo in the face after.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah I agree, so it was and I, yeah, I, I really really liked it. I thought it was a good movie overall, but, um, and your scores, um, my scores were. I gave acting a five out of five. I thought that every single person like who I saw it wasn't like that deep of a cast, but they all played their characters really well tony collette right, that's her name.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, she always brings it. I have never seen something of hers where she wasn't like fantastic, yeah, and it was a different role for her too, but she fit it.
Speaker 2:It was so funny, she was hilarious, like it was like oh yeah, I agree, obsessed with sauce yeah, like what? And it was gross sauces, like you're like oh my god, she like wants you, oh I just I felt like the characters.
Speaker 2:All of them added something to the screen. So I gave it five out of five. Cinematography I thought that there were some awesome camera shots. I did the. I don't know if it was on purpose, but there was just kind of a lack of color and vibrance and I think that might have been on purpose, but I didn't love that part of the. The cinematography I guess I don't know why I just like brighter colors in movies typically, so that might just be a personal preference. But I gave it a four out five. I thought it was really good. I thought the shots that added to the movie were really cool. The score I gave a three out of five.
Speaker 1:It was right in the middle, nothing crazy but like this was the first movie, went into going like yo, we always kind of like don't pay attention to score, Let me pay attention this time. And yeah, I agree time.
Speaker 2:and yeah, I agree with you yeah, it's just yeah, it just not, yeah, exactly story plot. I gave a four. I thought it was pretty entertaining. There was times where, like it uh, just like any kind of like funky action movie, it like kind of just was thrown forward, if that makes sense. And but overall I I enjoyed it. I thought it kept me entertained. I watched the whole movie with wide eyes and just enjoying it. And then the rewatchability. I gave a three. Maybe I'd watch this again. I don't think I'll watch it a lot, but it's definitely a movie I'd be like. Yeah, let me watch Mickey 17 again, you're not watching this one every Easter.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, this is not an every Easter type of film, but yeah, so I think that that's it's rebirth, it's rebirth. He's a savior for his people, he sacrificed himself on the Awesome If Jesus was this aloof. I agree.
Speaker 1:I'd be like you know what, what I might actually follow this guy now I don't know, man, but yeah, what about you guys?
Speaker 2:uh, I think I overstepped you a little bit earlier, so no, no, it's okay, it's no problem, uh some interesting things about this movie. So the director of this movie is bong joon ho and he has done some pretty interesting movies in the past. He did a snow piercer, he did oak. Ja, he did host was his breakout monster movie. He also did parasite, which fucking Academy award and also Trump criticized. He's like why movies like parasite winning Academy awards?
Speaker 1:It should be, because they're critical of you asshole.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but this movie was originally scheduled to be released in 2022, and it got delayed. And then it was scheduled to be released right after Donald Trump got. There was an assassination attempt on him, and so this movie was going. It was planned to release like two weeks after that, and so they pushed it back again, so it ended up in 2024 and interesting.
Speaker 1:I didn't know that, dude, could you imagine being an actor and like? Because I mean, it's like robert pattinson he's focused on being batman and all this kind of shit and they're like hey man, you remember that thing that you acted in four fucking years ago. We're dropping that today. We need you on the floor, maybe which is crazy to think about.
Speaker 2:Like I'm glad this movie eventually came yeah, me too, and you know it's really uh, yes, it's a really interesting little tale there about this movie that when you, when you think about the context of like they, they had no idea that president, that that current president, donald trump, it was going to be here in the worst timeline yeah, it's gonna have someone shoot out of it a rally.
Speaker 2:um, yeah, you had some interesting comments, luke, about it being kind of drab and I think it's pretty. I think it's kind of like authoritarian drabness that we always see in like fascist movies and stuff. They don't actually like, you know, modern color. They actually reject modernity. They want things to be really muted, especially religious groups, because they don't like passionate people, especially in lower ranks. They don't want super passionate people, they want people who are just going to listen to whatever they're told. So everything is kind of muted and the color starts to pop at the end.
Speaker 1:I actually thought about that. When they're outside, it gets bright.
Speaker 2:And it's spring right, birth and renewal, but they're destroying this fake kind of rebirth. That's narcissistic, it's. It's a rebirth of like the planet and of all life, you know. So I think there's some really interesting uh choices there. I did think it was pretty drab for most of it still, though, even though I think it was a choice uh, but uh, the acting I totally agree, everybody was fucking killing it. Robert pattinson played a great sneering piece of shit with mickey 18 like. He played a great steering, like uh, vindictive, very, very self-focused, yeah, like a very inward focused person who is always in the context of everything, thinking about what what that means for them and how they feel about a situation. And mickey 17 is totally different. He played both characters so well, which is just super, and that's why I think that I had that chemistry in that scene, and when they're together because it's like it's time to two characters.
Speaker 1:It's what it's time to forgive him for, edward. Yeah, like I never would.
Speaker 2:I never judged him for being in those movies.
Speaker 1:The rest of the world for the fucking comment section of fucking anything. When it comes to him, it's constant fucking, edward, edward, like dude fuck off so judgmental.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's phenomenal, the lighthouse, he's really good. Oh my god, I think of him in the lighthouse. That's what I think of robert as his lighthouse, like it's a funny way to think of him. That's, that's the real him. That's the real, yeah. But yeah, the acting is very solid, I agree. Yeah, tony collette I was gonna mention like I loved her in hereditary. I loved her in the united states did we see united states of tara.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah. United states of tara was really good. She is an actress yeah, she's so she.
Speaker 2:She also does the robert, she does the robert pattinson thing in that, where she has multiple personalities and she plays different characters. Yeah, yeah. So that's a really I I recommend that if you liked tony collette in this movie um yeah, acting is fantastic.
Speaker 2:I give it a five. I think this is great. Acting cinematography, um, I'm gonna give it a four. I think that there were some parts where it dragged and some parts where we were in too wide of shots and hung on them for too long. It was just like the cgi and I thought that you know, sometimes like the cgi from far away was not great. It didn't have like a lot of depth, um, uh. But otherwise the framing of shots I thought was really amazing. They did kind of a thing that movies don't actually do that often. You'll notice, when you film a fighting scene or a confrontation scene, you'll always film from a diagonal angle to the face, not front on Someone being filmed straight down the camera facing the camera is very weird, uh, it tends to be really jarring for us. They do it at least once when the mickeys are fighting. Can you imagine what it's like looking into yourself?
Speaker 1:oh, that would be fucking crazy.
Speaker 2:It's uh, and yeah, I thought it was beautiful, uh, so they did a lot of really cool stuff. Uh, and yeah, I thought it was beautiful, uh, so they did a lot of really cool stuff, and uh, so I give cinematography a four score and soundtrack three. I don't remember it at all. I'm not humming the mickey thing but it didn't take anything away from it.
Speaker 2:Uh, story and plot. Uh uh. I give the plot a 3.5. I thought it was, but I don't feel like he. This is Bong Joon-ho again. I think this is like an amalgamation of a lot of different parts of his other movies, like Frozen Planet and the parasite, classism and the way they destroy it, and a lot of reasons, a lot of things, but not really digging, digging so deep into them I like this, but I do like that sci-fi can be any kind of movie now.
Speaker 2:It can be a little weird, it can be a little quirky, it can be a little romantic and it doesn't have to just be hard sci-fi or action or whatever. The sci-fi is just popular now. Yeah, yeah and rewatchability.
Speaker 2:I'm moving on fast because ryan so what was the score for that one, oh for story plot. A 3.5, though it just didn't dig in far enough for me. I thought, well, you know what, I'll give it a four. I'll give it a four. Uh, it could have been, it was good, not perfect. Uh, rewatchability I'm gonna give this a 3.5, rewatchability, because I think I'm definitely. I'm going to give this a 3.5 rewatchability because I think I'm definitely I'm going to watch this movie again in probably a few more times. All right, Ryan Woo.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so. So for me, well, so interesting fact about it, because just in this portion, you know, there's some interesting things that come up. So Robert Pattinson, he takes a lot of shit for all the Twilight things. And one of the interesting things, I found this out when I was looking at him when he became Batman, so when he first came out to LA him, Eddie Redmayne, Jamie Dornan and Andrew Garfield were roommates before any of them became anything. That's crazy.
Speaker 2:Really Wow.
Speaker 1:Yes, and he was the last from his own mouth. He's like I was kind of the last one invited to this roommate party out in LA where we were going to try and make it big and he got a lot of shit from the rest of them because of Edward, because he was the first one to sort of make it and he made it hard yeah like, if you remember, like being in high school, us fellas, us millennials, dude, he, he shot through the fucking roof.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because of fucking edward and the rest of his old roommates, andrew garfield included, gave him like shit for that. The worst spider-man, um, like he was, he was. But I will say in andrew garfield's defense, he also like. I was watching a thing with andrew garfield recently where he sort of like said that toby mcguire will always be my spider-man and I appreciated the humbleness. Whether or not it's real, I don't know I'm sure it's real.
Speaker 2:He doesn't seem like a bad guy, he seems like a genuine. He just sucked at being spider man well, I don't think.
Speaker 1:So I will say I don't think it was andrew garfield's fault. I think it was the writer's fault. Sure where he was. Like I'm this fucking loser who's super cool.
Speaker 2:I don't blame Robert Pattinson for being Edward. I don't care that he was Edward. I think that. But also, edward sucks and so but I'm not, and that's what Garfield Andrew Garfield, he did in Edward, and it's funny that he was making fun of.
Speaker 1:Right, we should just do a fucking Twilight episode. But anyway, All right, so we should do it. We should do it. I think that would be a hot one, but anyway, all right. So watching this film, mickey 17. What's the acting score? Yeah, where am I? Who am I? All right, so acting. I'm agreeing with you guys Definitely a five. I thought everyone was on point. No doubt Pattinson brought it.
Speaker 2:Fucking Rufio Ruffalo Mark Ruffalo Do Rufio. I like Rufio better.
Speaker 1:Rufio fucking brought it. I thought Tony Collette was fantastic, and all the supporting characters that we don't usually see, even that dude who was killed by Negan they all fucking brought it. So I would definitely give, acting on this one, a five Cinematography. They knew what they were trying to relay as far as emotionally, with the cameras and everything like that, so I would also give that a five. I know that we have environments that are very drab and very sad, but that's what they were trying to do. So, just like we can't blame pattinson for twilight, we can't blame the cinematography for what they were trying to do in mickey.
Speaker 2:17 sure, but he did put animation there too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sorry, it's not in the. Yeah, yeah, no, cgi goes into it, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, so 4.5. Anyway, score it was fake, it was what it was. They were focusing on Toni, collette and I understand. So you know it is what it is, but 3. The story I felt was a little meandering, colette and I understand. So you know it is what it is, but three.
Speaker 1:The story I felt was a little meandering in my opinion if a thing doesn't need to be there as a writer, as an artist, is all those things you got to slice it off. And there were a lot of instances where they did not slice it off. Yeah, the third act, especially in the Mark Rufio instances where they did not slice it off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the third act, especially the Mark. Rufio in the tank heading out to battle. That was way too long, guys. I enjoyed it, I did, I liked it. I don't know why I did.
Speaker 1:But there were a lot of moments where it was like let's cut this off. What is this story even about? I halfway through, before the fucking gruffalo species reappeared and became integral to the storyline, I was like what the fuck is this movie about? Colonialism? But at first I thought it was about that. But then, like wait, is this movie just about a threesome? This girl's about to pick up.
Speaker 2:And then I was like what it could have just been a personal movie, I was fine with it.
Speaker 1:Being a movie about a guy who kept getting cloned, I was fine with that yeah, but they didn't advertise that as such in the beginning, so I felt that the story in a lot was sort of meandering. They didn't really know what they were doing until act three. Um, and then they're like okay, it's about the gruffalo and where the wild things are and sometimes you got to assassinate politicians sometimes you got to kill a politician and sometimes that's going to cost you your life.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, but you should be able to get. You know, like, with no reference to the real world. Sometimes, if you need to kill an insurance, you know like, with no reference to the real world. Sometimes, if you need to kill an insurance, you know, fucking god. Sometimes that means you're going to go to prison and the powers that be you're going to ask for execution, and that's what it is is what it is. Welcome to history. Welcome to history. We'll talk about you 100 years from now and then rewatchability.
Speaker 2:You did not give a score for story and plot.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm sorry. I'll give it a and rewatchability. I am going to watch this every Easter, but I'm not necessarily going to be happy about it. Just like Easter, right? Oh my god. Yeah, I had completely stopped celebrating this freaking holiday until I picked up the sun. But, uh, rewatchability. I'm gonna give it a 3.5 35. Because I will recommend to friends that check it out once. Yeah, at least once. There is some stuff there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for people who aren't used to consuming media, that has criticism in it, which it seems like a lot of people. It seems like whatever a movie that has criticisms comes out, there's a selection of people who are like this movie is way too critical of what it's like. What kind of fucking movies are you watching Every? Movie I watch has critical shit in it. Are you just watching Transformers? That's it.
Speaker 1:If Michael Bay and Vin Diesel aren't involved. Neither am I.
Speaker 2:Well, that gives it a total score of four out of five stars for.
Speaker 1:Mickey 17. That's a pretty great score. Solid film.
Speaker 2:I didn't even think overall it should have a four, but I'm not surprised it has a four.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think it was a good movie overall. I do. I don't think it's groundbreaking, but I like it did a good movie overall. I do, I don't think it's groundbreaking, but I like it did a good job. With what I never thought about, the point of when I watched the movie, the fact that the story just kind of like went on didn't get across my mind Like I don't know why. I just enjoyed like the. I got so bored around like in the middle, around like hour 20. Yeah, I was like bored. I like in the middle around like hour 20. Yeah, I was like bored. I was like god damn it guys, this could have been an hour and 20 movie, if you cut out like 15 minutes.
Speaker 2:I did say it was long when I almost escorted because they needed to trim the fat.
Speaker 1:They needed to trim the fat me too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but still 4 out of 5 4 out of 5 my theater dead silent when people were leaving. Fucking dead silent. No, it's always like god damn it. This fucking world is horrible, isn't it?
Speaker 1:yeah, we're in a shit.
Speaker 2:They're like oh my god walk outside it's like not actually that different. Yeah, that was the scariest movie of the year. It was tough to walk out of that theater we're all fucking mickey 17.
Speaker 1:Uh, trump's in office and you know, melania's running around trying to make sauce and it's the whole thing's fucked yeah, it's pretty fucked up we're all fucked. So now it's time to get into the second portion of this. It's time to jump onto the golden path, it's time to dive into the special, secret meanings of it, which means it's time for one more hit, one more shot.
Speaker 1:But not so secret or not sacred, it was pretty in your face. So I say here's to Melania for another four years running around trying to make her sauce, I guess out of immigrants, I suppose.
Speaker 2:I don't know. It's definitely immigrants.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, god damn it.
Speaker 2:To be fair, we're all getting our sauce from immigrants.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right. Cheers, we'll talk about it. Here's to the sauce. Cheers, boys, cheers.
Speaker 2:Cheers to the sauce. Cheers, boys Cheers. Cheers to the sauce.
Speaker 1:Was that Bane?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Not one girl, who was until I put on the mask.
Speaker 1:You only tasted the sauce. I was born to it.
Speaker 2:I was born in it, bathed, tasted the sauce. I was born for it. I was born in it, bathed in the sauce.
Speaker 1:Well, let's talk about this sauce boys. So, uh, fuck yeah.
Speaker 2:One thing that I put. I'll just start off because one note that I put was any person who was involved in that program of the reprinting, the scientists, were certified psychopaths.
Speaker 1:What was? Going on their lack of emotion, Except for that one indie girl. Oh yeah, she had a lack of emotion too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Even her, though she's kind of like, well, good luck, Like even then like she had a little bit more.
Speaker 2:She was kinder, yes, but like I was like even then, like she had a little bit more she was kinder, yes, but like I was like these people are sociopath, psychopath people, like they are just like their lack of care. Because don't get me wrong like the concept of this person being reprinted like a clone, it like is almost like they're dehumanizing him, like it's not a human anymore, but it's like this is still a being with deep emotions and stuff. And to me, like I think if I was in that position, I would.
Speaker 1:I would not be as just heartless as they are like it's crazy there to show that when one of these regimes pops up, not everyone's a sociopath and there are going many of us that just follow because it is what it is. But I feel that they messed up in like oh, she's showing a modicum of fucking empathy, she's forgiven when I. I feel that that detracted from what we're trying to say here, like at the end of the day, like yeah, you saw it was bad, but you still put on the fucking lab coat every morning and I should not be forgiven.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, agreed I feel like she should have eaten by a fucking bugalo um yeah, yeah, you're right, they're totally analogous to nazi scientists, and it's really interesting, though, because we have a phrase that someone's being treated like a lab rat, and that's what's happening here. Is you have to think about the way scientists look at life in a lab when you deal with live animals and live testing, especially when you're doing military testing. Like they were developing a virus, they're developing something that kills, uh, or a pesticide or something. They were developing a virus. They're developing something that kills, uh, or a pesticide or something. They're developing something that ended life, and there are people who develop those things in labs currently, and they have to test whether those things are harmful to pets and shit, and you have to.
Speaker 2:This happens in the medical field, too, with people who deal with humans, even if they're not killing them personally. There is a dehumanization. You have to take a step back from your humanity in order to do work that normal people could not do about science, you have to have an impersonal detachment from life, uh, because you have to be able to observe things in a cold manner, a purely factual instead of emotional manner, and the movie makes the argument that that's necessary and that we should forgive those people, but it's hard because I'm not like those people and I do have emotions and I try to have empathy and their detachment is horrifying I guess yeah so they are.
Speaker 2:I mean like they are sociopaths, but it's like it's kind of necessary for them to be like almost for the scientists probably are yeah, yeah, a lot of people dealing with lab biology probably are. They're killing like 400 mice a week or whatever that's like yeah, yeah but yeah, that whole concept I thought was very interesting.
Speaker 2:And then you know, and, as always, like the, very like, like you guys said, like the sauces have basically immigrants to the, to the, the, the red cap on the mark, ruffalo supporter. What is his character's name? You can remember? That fucking guy mark ruffalo yeah, but kenneth marshall, yeah, the kenneth marshall supporters wearing literal red cap. It was very in your face, like showing like, haha, like, and I thought it was. Although in your face and not very hard to see, it's definitely a concept that some people probably won't like the movie Probably.
Speaker 1:I don't even think they'll recognize it.
Speaker 2:I was going to say that too. Will they recognize it?
Speaker 1:I've reached a point now where it's like guys, have you like? It's the same concept where, like you know how, every year we have this big ass fucking holiday where we buy presents and every movie we watch is fucking socialist propaganda. Like once a year we watch a movie about a fucking rich guy who realizes he's going to hell and needs to start giving to the poor, but then we're just collectively, like that was nice, moving on. I don't think anyone sees this shit anymore.
Speaker 2:We can trust the individual to turn their act around. We don't need to do anything. The ghosts will handle it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that billionaire is going to be visited by three ghosts in the night.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 1:And realize his wrongs, and me my with my $40,000 a year will be fine, Okay.
Speaker 2:Well, that's depressing.
Speaker 1:I don't think anyone fucking saw it. I don't think anyone noticed. I don't know how you don't, it's so obvious. Let me tell you guys, this fucking story.
Speaker 2:I have a story about an interaction with one of these people. That's wild, this one. I was living in las vegas. I went to a park and there were. You could tell this was a family of those people because they were wearing like stylized american flag shirts. And you know, uh, I do have a marion flag shirt, you know, with with like the almost like dripping paint splatter or airbrush or whatever.
Speaker 2:I fucking love America. And this family was carrying two big, family-sized bags of potato chips. And there is a sign that says don't feed the geese, because there were many geese at this park this is a park that's known for having a huge population of geese here and so they open the bag and they start throwing chips to the geese. And so I like I'm already mad, I know right. And so I walk up and I say hey, hey guys, hey guys. Excuse me, did you guys see there's a sign right there that says don't feed the geese?
Speaker 2:And then, underneath his explanation, I didn't get to finish my sentence because the guy turns to me and starts chanting usa, usa, usa, over and over and over. No, I swear to God, I swear to God. And he put his arms down. You know, like almost like you know, put the shoulders forward and the arms down, like Danny McBride does in every movie. Just like Danny, yes, like that Luke, just like Danny McBride does. He was walking toward me and I was like what the fuck is going on? As I walk back to my car and I get in to drive away, and he eventually stops chanting, and as I drive away, he turns around and he's got this bag, this family-sized bag of sandwiches, and he like, takes it over his head and he starts shaking the fucker as his.
Speaker 2:He and his family are surrounded by like 50 geese and they were in the live fucking canadian gooses yeah, that's my story and so you know, when I think about that story, sometimes I think you're right, right, but I don't know if they're gonna notice they didn't notice a fucking thing. They're just thinking about that threesome that could have been when sharon and I walked out of the movie, the only conversation we heard about the movie is that they dropped the storyline with the threesome that's the only thing.
Speaker 1:God damn it. God damn it. We are so fucked. We are in the worst timeline.
Speaker 2:We are so fucked, god damn it this golden path is so dark, just like golden path in dune yeah named after god damn it we are sorry, man. Sorry, I shared that story. I didn't mean to take away you know any hope in humanity.
Speaker 1:But watching Mickey 17, you start to lose a general hope in humanity. He's expendable and so collectively they start to accept that as reality. If he dies, he dies. Even his own best friend is like dude, you die all the time, just fucking. Do this for me, man. I put a note down that own best friend is like dude, you die all the time, just fucking do this for me, man.
Speaker 2:I put a note down that his best friend is literally one of the worst human beings on the face.
Speaker 1:I'm glad negan beat him to shit me too.
Speaker 2:I was like oh, yeah, good, good, that character needed to be gone yeah, fuck him um what I, uh, I don't like watching.
Speaker 1:So yeah, this thing's fucking depressing, it's dystopian and we live in a dystopia and we're in the worst timeline fucking, obviously, and even the other should be adventuring with my friends right now wouldn't have fit. Yeah, I should be adventuring with my friends to go kill the demon king, not fucking worried about paying my rent what the fuck and we just keep handing the keys over to people who don't have our best interests in mind and never fucking will.
Speaker 2:Um, I don't know if anybody that's one thing about this movie where I gave it a knock on the story and plot. It ended with an election that changed everything and people saw that they were wrong which never does and everything turned out great because of that election and it felt pretty like a slap in the face. That's why I wanted to mention at the top of this this was supposed to be released in 2022, got delayed with editing, post-production and shit and uh certainly hits a little different after yeah yeah, I agree and, like you know.
Speaker 1:So the cool thing about the constitution and what the United States was supposed to be and everyone, like these days in a fascist society, worships the founding fathers, but what was so great about them was that they recognized that they are probably wrong in some aspects. They are probably wrong in some aspects. What they were great about, why they were good, why we should be venerating them, is not because they were gods, but was because they recognized that they are not infallible, that this constitution can be changed because we're probably fucking wrong, and that it it should just be a society of citizens that are trusted to govern themselves. But what did we fucking do? We gave it to the fucking billionaires immediately, the exactly the thing they didn't want us to fucking do. And we're just every day we're stepping closer to this fucking dystopia well, ben franklin loved it.
Speaker 2:To be fair, ben franklin was like, yeah, I'm the shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, come on, young women, let's ben franklin deserves to be fucked in the ass by every demon in every Tony Collette movie. Alright, let's be real. Alright, let's be real. The hereditary demon, every fucking thing that she's done, should just be fucking Ben Franklin in the ass. He'd love it, that's actually what he was into.
Speaker 2:He's been to France, right.
Speaker 1:He knows what's up. What a weird joke, but anyway. But so I think my golden path for this film Mickey 17, is that I saw it in my 30s. Mickey 17 is that I saw it in my thirties and I remember being in my twenties when the fire was so intense in me and seeing something like this, would you know?
Speaker 1:drive you to assassinate the president would drive me to assassinate the president of the United States. But now me as a 30-year-old is like dude, do you think the universe fucking gives a shit at all? I just hope that I get a life where I fall in love and eventually die not of a war wound. That's all I wanted this time.
Speaker 2:Well, like you said, we venerate those people. Anyone here wants to assassinate Donald Trump? You have this podcast, full support. In Costa Rica they named their airport after juan santa maria because that dude fucking firebombed the estate of the white dude from the united states who came in to try to conquer costa rica. That 17 year old went up and firebombed them and and they're like you saved us all, we're gonna name uh, he died, by the way uh, but they took care of his family and they made him a national hero.
Speaker 2:And now, he's got an airport named after him maybe if you assassinate the president of the united states, I will petition to have an airport named after you.
Speaker 1:Just joking officially just joking, but not officially, you can do it it's not wrong to support someone in doing crimes.
Speaker 2:I don't think so.
Speaker 1:This is america, dude. I thought this was america. It's all. Three high and dry fucking hosts are arrested. I thought this was america, dude. I thought this was america, dude. Supporting the assassination of a political leader at work did hell, but not really personal time yeah, no, like dude saying that you're gonna assassinate a president totally fucking illegal. But on this, this podcast, we're joking Free speech totally legal.
Speaker 2:For now. That's the problem For now.
Speaker 1:Hey so. I'm going to stamp date this fucking thing 4-19-2025. We did it before the laws came in. Currently, we can make jokes on podcasts. Right now, we can make jokes. We can make jokes on podcasts. Right now we can make jokes, we can make jokes. But uh, we'll see what happens tomorrow. So, that being said, see you in el salvador boys yeah, we're coming. Baby, ah, fellas, I can't wait to be able to podcast in person. We're all going to be in.
Speaker 2:No, actually you're not allowed to talk. Oh fuck, they will beat you if you talk, according to reports the some reports that have come out here and there oh, my god, jesus christ, we are in the worst timeline.
Speaker 1:So, that being said, it's time to get down to the third portion of this fucking thing. It's time to insert ourselves into mickey 17. Um, here's to the film. I I don't get to drink a lot these days, so I'm living it up. Here's to, uh, inserting ourselves into the worst timeline. Cheers, cheers, fucking hell. Oh, I got a kid's birthday before we go through an hour. All right, here we go, baby. All right. So All right, welcome to the third portion of this. It's time now to insert ourselves into Mickey 17. So what would happen if James, luke or Ryan were in this movie? How does it go different? Let's jump into it, luke. Yeah, I got this.
Speaker 2:I would personally want to be the main local inhabitant of that of the planet. Whatever that, you want to be the main creeper. Yeah, creeper, creeper, I want to be the main creeper.
Speaker 2:You don't want to be one of the lesser creepers no, unfortunately not, I want to be the main creeper, because I'm going to Daddy creeper, daddy creeper, daddy creeper, because I'm going to daddy daddy creeper, dude daddy creeper, and I am, instead of like after like, they kind of like make a I'm killing all of the humans on the planet. I'm not none of them will survive, we're taking down the entire infrastructure.
Speaker 2:They are all being murked off the planet we don't care if the babies come back, it's like no, yeah, done, oh, cool, gave the baby back Dead, doesn't matter, you're bad, and I'd kill all the humans so that way my planet could live in its peaceful state that it was before they fucking got there.
Speaker 1:Nice, so 20 minute film yeah.
Speaker 2:It's a short film, really, and it's cool. It's a short film, really, it's sure, and it's them just landing in me immediately ran. Unfortunately, we are not peaceful creatures, because daddy luke is the leader now and we fucking we kill anything that comes out of the planet.
Speaker 2:So it would be more like a scary alien film, but 20 minutes long. Us just killing all of these humans, no, no, and we just keep killing mickeys. They're like mickey 55 because like we keep killing, but they'll print it out like as fast as we can kill them, they're just printing them out yeah, it's like dude, I like you, I do, but I know that you're the the fucking least common denominator, dude.
Speaker 1:yep, I'm, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry you. You are decent but like gotta, gotta go ahead and get rid of it.
Speaker 1:Sorry, dude.
Speaker 2:Sorry, dude.
Speaker 1:Dad.
Speaker 2:Great film, great film.
Speaker 1:It's more, it's actually no longer named that it's no longer named Mickey 17.
Speaker 2:It's actually Daddy Creeper, daddy Creeper, daddy Creeper, daddy Creeper, and it's a horror sci-fi film. Daddy Creeper, baby, very, very changed. But yeah, that's how Mickey 17 would change pretty drastically if I was in the film. Hell yeah, james, I would have gotten the spot as Pigeon man instead of that Donald.
Speaker 1:Trump supporter I would have as Pigeon man instead of that Donald Trump supporter, I would have been Pigeon man. Dude, honestly, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:The movie would have been exactly the same. I would have been Pigeon man, though it would have been pretty dope. Pigeon man would have been stoned. Pigeon man, I would have had an okay time. Everyone would have done my face.
Speaker 1:Pigeon man, pigeon man, oh my god, I would have been with Mark Rufio meanwhile, daddy Luke is getting ready to blow all of our brains out of our ears oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, all of our brains out of our ears.
Speaker 2:Was that the sound? It wasn't that, but that's what I was trying to make.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, nah for me. God damn it, god damn it, I would just, I would wind up being mickey.
Speaker 2:18 yeah, we know god damn it.
Speaker 1:and I'm gonna talk to, I'm gonna talk to daddy luke and I'm like, and daddy luke's gonna be like I'm killing y'all and I'm gonna be like I get it, um, and I'm like, can I go kill Mark Trump real quick though? Would that be cool? And I hope Daddy Luke would have a little bit of, you know, fucking empathy, and I would definitely push for that threesome more for sure. That plot would be followed through to the end. That plot would be wrapped up.
Speaker 2:Basically would be, that would be wrapped up basically, you would ask me I have two things I need to get, I need to assassinate that guy and I need to go have a three-way come on, can we do that?
Speaker 1:daddy luke, baby come on.
Speaker 2:Man like dude.
Speaker 1:What was wild. When I saw it happen I was like Jesus Christ, is this all scripted? I just got finished reading Dark Matter. It's a sci-fi book that became a sci-fi short series on Apple TV.
Speaker 1:The whole concept was that this dude is just living his day to day. Back in the day he was a very brilliant college grad. He had a future, but he decided instead that he was going to spend his life with the love of his life and live a more mundane thing, but in a separate reality. Another version of him decided that he was going to pursue his scientific goals of him. Decided that he was going to pursue his scientific goals and that guy the scientific goal one created box and a drug that allowed us to exist in superposition and travel the multiverse. That guy regretted his life choices about not living with the love of his life, kidnaps the dude who lived with the love of his life and swapped and swapped and I finished reading the book and I finished watching the series and the person I was reading the book with and watching the series with I I just say all right, because I'm just so fucking ingrained into high and dry, like if it were me and a bunch of us showed up in this universe to fight for the love of our lives, we wouldn't be fighting.
Speaker 1:First we'd talk and second I'd be like hey, do you want to try something? Really fucking freaky? There's five of me in the room right now. Are you looking to get stuffed in every hole? It's like one of those, it's.
Speaker 2:It's the same scene with the, the five black guys behind Riley Reed except it's all me, dude, it's all me, and I'm like your back's looking real cut, we're doing something right, we're doing something right.
Speaker 1:We gave it all to AI dude.
Speaker 2:Dude, we gave it all to ai. Dude, dude, from this angle, your thighs, the muscles are going, oh, man, oh my god I'm next. I want that help you. You check out my thighs. Next the girls already left.
Speaker 1:It's just the five of them having sex so I I guess that's also how it would change is. I guess that's also how it would change. Is so like Mickey 17's hanging out as Ryan 17, mickey Ryan 18 pops out, and we'll be like you, sexy bitch, we just keep looking better and better.
Speaker 1:God damn, dude, are your abs better than mine, dude? And we'd be wearing this, like this deep v that I got on right now, right, and we'd go back to my girlfriend's place and she'd be like. She'd be like hell, yeah, into the pile into the pile and it would just be uh, ryan 17, ryan 18, ryan 19, ryan 20 just fucking going to town on my girlfriend while hyping each other up the whole time and so that. Yeah, that's how the film would change so yours changes into a porno.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh yeah and there would be dude, my fucking plot my palms, my palms would be raw my palms would be raw from the fucking high-fiving the movie just ends on a gum shot. What did I just watch?
Speaker 1:There's so much backstory for a gum shot.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it happens at the same point in the movie where the two make each other, bong Joon-ho directed this, are you sure I? Don't? The movie totally changed in the second half and it got me the intimate story about one man turned into a very intimate story about five men.
Speaker 1:And it's got a flashback of me and Steven Yeun fucking with our hands tied behind our backs in front of a mob boss To flash forward to a bunch of fucking gang banging my girlfriend.
Speaker 2:Five out of five, five stars, baby Five stars the good guys win.
Speaker 1:The good guys win.
Speaker 2:First half was kind of boring, First half mundane but second half really tied me in, really brought me into the feeling.
Speaker 1:They release it in theaters.
Speaker 2:That's an X rating After me 18.
Speaker 1:We warned you, we warned you at the front Do not let your kids into this fucking movie. It's a real movie that devolves. That's funny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's how it would change. I love that film.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, five stars, dude Five stars. The first porno to get a four out of five on the high and dry rating scale. The score was a three. The score was a three the score was a three.
Speaker 2:The second half had some memorable music really snappy holy fuck, all right. Well, there you go. It's neighbors knew my name.
Speaker 1:Bye there you go, folks. Um so uh, uh, welcome to that cum chat. That is high and dry podcast. Uh, what jesus that was a.
Speaker 2:That was a mess just like that six way, we're gonna release this episode, oh, you know it, Dude.
Speaker 1:This episode had assassinating the president Fucking five to one cum shot on your girlfriend. This is a solid, solid one. Five stars, Five stars. There you go. Audible Movie. Four out of five.
Speaker 2:Episode five out of five. Jesus yeah.
Speaker 1:So this particular episode will it get an audible release? Yeah, probably. Yes, they don't check. They don't check certainly, certainly, without a doubt. So check us out on audible. Um, I'm getting that ontario accent coming in at the end here. I've been drinking a lot. There's that comeback. Cheers everyone. Thank you for listening. We're High and Dry Podcast. I'm your host, ryan Barron North, with me, as always, james Crossland, luke. Thank you, guys, so much. Bye.
Speaker 2:Bye.
